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Cardassian Counterattack again? With no changes to the scoring? Absolute joke
Scopley you are an absolute joke
Round 2.
You guys pushed out the wrong text in the event again
really another one barely finished the other noone has dirs left
@pseudo rune @silver pike again? Same bug? Another armada event.
and description is wrong again š
Scopely just taking the Pā¦. Another armada event š©
guess I'll have to run 50 unc armadas today
yep pay to win
Are you serious @pseudo rune to run the cardasdissian event again???
This arc is trash. The game is getting way too greedy.
I donāt know whether itās just ignorance, stupidity, malice or laziness on the part of Scopley to put these two stupid Cardassian armada events back to back.
Com'on scopely?! DAY 2 OF MORE DIRECTIVES SPENDING?
How are we even sourcing for more directives when we are spending and spending
ya this ^
noone has dirs left
scopely is twisting the knife on day 2
Are you kidding!? Another armada event!?
it's time to get rid of this month's arc runner
Seriously scopely? For weeks now the one armada event after the other? You all think the players got some kind of money tree in their garden?
You got to be kidding me
Cardassian hostile are not scoring. Iām sure youāll change the text of the event instead of fixing the scoring and continue to screw over your players.
Get your wallets out everyone Ā£$Ā£$Ā£$ š
Oh that's just nuts having this armada event again
I was 2000 points off finishing last one so no hope to score today
I assume you need to buy stuff for the new green and purple recruit stuff
I get it that Prefect is a 2 day but to have 2x24hr counter attack events makes no sense with the scoring the way it is. I've completed Prefect, helped my team mates with theirs and did a bit extra for Counter attack day 1, I've nothing left for day 2. Some notice would of been appreciated so we can at least plan....
The amount of complaints about the armada event, and they run it again, with the same milestones. Theyāre mugging us all off
But if you can plan then less chance of spending
Seriously, again
Well I'm now planning on not spending so...
Seriously?! 2 days in a row a ridiculous armada event. I give up with this game. Such garbage.
no no... the text by the guy who probably designed the event exactly the way the text suggests might actually be correct if the event would be running as intended by said designer... but then the greedy people step in and say: "nah let's take the hostile part out of it" .....
Stupid having back to back armada events when u can barely finish one @pseudo rune wtf
Garbage!!!!!! Absolute trash!!! Another 46 uncommon armadas to complete. It took me 10 hours to complete it yesterday.
I think I'll go play the new Lord Of The Rings game instead
I didn't do the first one on principle and not doing this one either. Scopley I like this game. I preferred previous arcs.
Worst arc ever I cant finish a few events
@pseudo rune @silver pike can you tell scopley get it together, another day an no events to get the new Officer shards just armada events too suck out the $$$ from everyoneās pocketā¦
Againā¦doesnāt anyone have their work checked at Scopley?
Ey Ihr tütenkleber was macht ihr da bei scop eigentlich den ganzen Tag?
So who had āback-to-back ridiculously stupid armada eventsā on thier STFC Bingo card?
What new LOTR game?
It's called War. If you search for Lord of the rings on the play store you'll find it
And they still couldnāt even change the description about hostiles scoring. Thereās lazy and then there is Scopely lazy.
Thanks, iāll check it out while iām busy not doing cardmadas
Did you know, at Cornell University they have an incredible piece of scientific equipment known as the tunneling electron microscope. Now, this microscope is so powerful that by firing electrons you can actually see images of the atom, the infinitesimally minute building blocks of our universe. Scopely, if I were using that microscope right now... I still wouldn't be able to locate my interest in your armada event.
Seriously the same bloody event 2nd day in a row? We all have freaking lives outside of this game @pseudo rune
Lol no worries. Enjoy
Honestly, at this point it feels like scopely is actively trying to make us stop playing this game! Jeez really the same terrible event twice???
Scopely obviously think that doing 90+ armadas is great fun...
hahaha without rare or epics i need to do 58 unc armadas... how?
@pseudo rune
You are a nice fellow, but you failed as a community manager. Step down and let someone else to the job, better.
"You were warned in Star Trek Fleet Command. Reason: Language" you can put your bot where the sun never shines !!!!!
Yoke i say yoke
I have a working theory about scopely... they are secretly preparing to have a real life version of Squid Game... and they use stfc players to fill the jackpot...
Soo. Where is it. Looks like itās designed to include these. But then doesnāt
HATE MORE HATE šš¤£
They don't make money from us killing Hostiles
I was warned bacause i wrote boy and cotton (remove the on)
@pseudo rune yeah I have to agree with people this is rediculous to have these types of events next to each other. Fix it so hostiles are also included as per the text
Whatās the bot name again ? I hate that guy. He can sook baws
My wallet is staying closed now.
Pathetic bunch of managers and creators.
It wasnāt already with the āgive us $600 noobz ?ā
If Scopely were Funeral Directors/Undertakers, they'd probably charge people money to go to the funeralš
Carl-Bot
Fix the game please ! Hostiles doesnt score !
Ugh yeah. Fu Carl
Get with it Scopely, you lost 2 whales on my server alone this month!
The āfixā for this is tippexing over that bit
Ffs, who runs this game?
If ya'll haven't figured out this game is lazy, greedy, buggy AF and gives no f's about the players, then I have no idea what to tell ya.
Worst battlepass. I bought the elite every month the last years. At the moment I'm denying to spend any money
Personally. I think the added complexity to swarm Sunday dodging past the 4-8 broken hostiles in every system is a better loop than mantis.
i think, we got what we deserved. No need to moan.
When I would deliver š© to my customers, and they would honor it with šµ, like we did,
next month i would deliver them more š©š©š©.
As it started, a few months ago with massively armada events, we buyed a lot of armada packages in our ally. So what should they think. They spend money, they liked it, so we give them more.
And now we are there where we are.
this armada event again is an absolute joke
@keen ledge for once its not your fault lol
Buy more armada packs Hoomans!!!
I do not complain about events. They are what they are, choose to play or not, but a second run of this ridiculous carmada event is too much. I wonāt be doing it and neither will most of my alliance.
All broken hostiles.
Fake, like scopely and this so called "communitu manager" @pseudo rune and those so called volunteers
Well that's what they want. They'd monetize your anger if they could. lol
Not doing it either. I was shocked when I completed yesterdayās this morning. Not doing it a second time.
there is a difference between buying the odd pack to cover a single event that needs to be completed in order to get valuable rewards like shards for good new officers - and launching an event with absolute jokes for rewards that requires an exponentially larger amount of directives/money spent in order to finish it... twice in a row
Scopely makes so much money that volunteers shouldn't be a thing
Dumbo Ppl make dumbo arc
if they can sucker people outta packs they can sucker people out of their life.
They call themselves volunteers, but i suspect they work for scopley
Scopely can't afford me. š¤£
Tomorrow I predict - armada event for battlepass š¤£
So no, I don't. I do have a job but it isn't with them and pays much better.
So... Event. I am currently on break and archived, so won't look at it myself, but open to constructive feedback I can pass on.
https://tenor.com/view/enough-gif-18031962 Even hollywood scumbags agree. Enough is enough.
Yall should "quit" your unpaid job over this bs so scopely actually feels the pain of an unmoderated official server
There's essentially no events tonight apart from the regulars. Same yesterday. I don't like event overload but something to do that not armadas might be nice.
How do you allow youself to be associated with those bunch of failires an thieves?
Even finance bros would look at scopely and go... bruh... really? lol
I have a few times. Lol
One thing I could comment , is the repetition of the same carmada event. The rewards are not enough to justify the amount of directives one needs to spend to finish it.
Boy
Financial services? I hope you're ethical in that, unlike the company you volunteer for
Me, yes. But companies are out to make money. It's your choice to buy or not, play or not, etc.
My boss don't agree with that statement. And it's not scopely š
To be fair a lot of people volunteer for and communicate with scopely to try and help the community. So please don't beat up on the people just trying to help
Epic failures
Ok, so:
Repetitive
Not rewarding
What else?
Impossible to do if you dont push out all others from your alliance ?
effin time consuming. not going to run >5h armadas end-to-end
Heard, but when the company never listens to those people and keeps making the same greedy choices the people who volunteer start to be culpable
Grind hostiles folks raid a bit. Let's do other game stuff or go off game tonight once grind is done.
Explain please. As I said, I am not currently playing and been on an extended break.
Requires too many directives than we are sourced even if we have saved directives and everything. The whole armada event requires more than it is realistic without spending
2 day in a row š you can. If you are anastasia steele
If you wanna do it with uncommons you need 46 on ops 45.
Even with about 50 people that have armadas you would have to leave a few out. Or start 8 epics
Ouch
Not doing the armadas today. Yesterday I had to use all my rare directives and a bunch of uncommon on top of the rest of the alliance just to finish the first one. Mind you the domination event I didn't finish because I wasn't going to blow through thousands of speedups and dilitium to get enough research done.
The full unlock for Gul dukot. I donāt see the point . Based on the No of tokens needed to unlock it, and the āchanceā to get the tokens, one needs to spend almost 1000+ to be lucky .
Between yesterday and today, you need to do 92 armadas to complete the pair.
It need 46 armada, so 8 uc armada cost per player if they take turn in a team of 6. And that never happen, so overall cost would be a good dozen of uc per day. For 2 days in a row. Around 6h of armada per day
No ticketed event, back to back armada event with high requirements, no mats auction, Fully assumed epic officer at several hundreds dollars. Yep, pretty much all around one of the worst week-end since I started playing. Great job š¬
I didn't like armadas to begin with so 46 sounds like Hades.
Would had said pure torture š
I'm sorry, guys. It sounds pretty terrible. I will continue to pass the feedback on - and I see that Kaution had been actively trying to get the team to read this as well.
not only did they do this blasted event again, they copied and pasted yesterday's original version and it still says hostiles, even though they fixed it by erasing hostiles by the end of the day. š
Thank you
How the hell are you supposed to do the Armada event again?š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
@keen ledge I hope she shows them whoās the boss lol. These types of events right after each other are not ftp friendly at all and shouldnāt happen too close to each other.
They could have put this event over two days, milestones the same, doubled the rewards and it would have been far more bearable
We don't. Cost/rewards ratio is not worth it. It wasn't worth it yesterday either.
You have fun doing 46 armada? Go for it.
You do it for rewards? Skip it
even for same rewards just making it 48h instead would been 10 times better
That means my old alliance is running hundreds of them.
46 armadas screams "week-long event", tbh
I cleaned my house instead lol
solo armadas gives notifications too, not ingame but regular notificationsš¤£
I'm guessing the negative feedback yesterday regarding the Carmadas made it to Scopely, and they've officially responded to the playerbase that they've listened and repeated the same event.
But think of poor Walter. He might not be able to afford his 10th super yacht if they don't charge $1000 for dukat and have 2 armada events back to back
They said F off!
Someone tell scopley they forgot to delete the ,
<@&509691205798592532> Hostile hunt is scoring incorrectly
Again.
Omg. Solos used to upset everyone anyway.
they didn't, they are just unable to push the update to your game... clear the localization in settings and it goes away š
This wouldn't be so bad if scopely would make armada credits SIGNIFICANTLY easier to get. Armadas were unsustainable at previous rates, and with the increase they have become an absolute dumpster fire. Make this part-time-job-of-a-game easier to play and you'll make it more enjoyable.
You seem to think they are in the business for your enjoyment.
If people don't enjoy the game, then they won't play it, and if they don't play it, then can't make money off it because nobody will be there to play it
With so many armadas now, I think it begs the question , will they ever give us a better way to source directives ?? Not the solo armadas , but for the other types, Fkr and carmadas?
The back to back ridiculous armada events with next to no extra directives is just plain rude. Yall went for a simple month and it just looks like a giant LAZY money grab so far.
Go do one scopely
Yet people still play and spend. They don't need to cater for the disgruntled as long as they are still making money off players.
I agree that directive sourcing is a big problem, but even if I had enough directives to run thousands of armadas, I am never ever doing 46 armadas in a day, let alone doing it again the day after.
Why not take Scopely's "improved sourcing" model and buy the directives?
Tbf, that was a top 10 on our old Log attempt. When I see Eco online, I will ask him to follow up on it.
There is no reasonable defense of the scopely model at this point. Business needs customers and this business kills/angers them instead
Scopely players can upgrade for free, so they generate spend.
I doubt they see it that way. Surely they would have listened after years of complaints yet they've doubled down on "improved sourcing" via paywalls, selling faction reps.
Sounds like STFC is nearing the end of the road and desperation to make a quick buck.
LOL slow mode enabled. so last month had daily or weekly activities a sourcing for stuff that was pay to play and wasnt as bad as this. Instead we have a bare month with nothing going on, with terrible sourcing, and the best thing a grind call bajoran rep which could be a little grindy
Packs free, upgrades free. Encourage spendā¦. Priceless
Selling faction reps was probably the biggest mistake that could've happened. It was the only thing forcing whales to actually grind
not counting they gave us "an improved way to source epic officers that we will all like" this month
The only reason why this game hasn't died already is because of the love and dedication of the players to the subject/theme of the game. That intense level of dedication leads to anger and feelings of betrayal when money is the primary and seemingly sole goal of the company running the game. The balance is lost.
Surprised they haven't made a pack to combat botting by making a Idle-style STFC prime.
We should have known that when they made Data a useless officer!
Selling faction rep was just heartbreaking I can't blame anyone for buying it even though I have to say I wouldn't.
But that was the last pure part of this game the one thing that you have to earn that cannot be bought.
And then scopely goes and sells it...
It's disgusting and there's nothing else to say
Barely got yesterday's event done just before reset this morning thanks to alliance members and burning all the directives i had saved. Not gonna sit here and watch my day tick away 7 minutes at a time and definitely not paying someone so i can do that. Armadas are not fun and Scopely should be paying us to do them. Have 100ft of water line to dig by hand today that sounds like a better time than this game
@pseudo rune Who decided these arcs were good enough to release? Not even sure that I tagged the right person but these events are utter garbage.
Eco is the CM so as good an option as any. He won't see that until tomorrow though.
I'm okay with that.
I think I am going to give him a heads up that the townsfolk have pitchforks. Don't tell him I was selling them. š¤£
I wonder if Star Trek is happy with Scopely's representation of their franchise.
I don't use the armada mechanics much anymore. When so many are run people get left out. They are drama engines. The most active advance even more quickly. It breeds allaince discontent. I purposely don't engage much because of this. I use my directives as I get them and don't really save them for events. I would like to see fewer armada event not more and better sourcing of directives.
Paramount is well aware but they also backed Trexels 2.
Warping in the shows and movies was point A to point B....not this "must hit a million other systems before your destination" crap. I doubt they are.
What kind of superglue do they use on crew members in star trek that only by going back to base can they be removed and swapped?
They need a repair bay and the ability to share resources within an alliance.
Still waiting for my compensatory rare directive gift box š
You think the people in charge of giving scopely a license for the IP care about that? they just want to see $$$ . The only people at paramount that might care have zero say in the matter
I guess the question is - did he mean Paramount or Roddenberry
Capitalism destroying fulfillment, happiness and enjoyment, just as Gene Roddenberry wanted! Uh wait a minute⦠š¤£
The IP license holder absolutely cares about actual damage to the property, but how your warp drive limits you and how many armadas they want you to pay for don't do that. They would only step in if scopley tried to kill a main character or the like.
Paramount is making shows I would argue prove they don't care about damage to the IP. š¤£
You hope for the federation but you end up with the ferengi
I always knew we would either be the mirror universe or conquered by Ferengi.
I'll take my time out now please. Saves me the time of insulting Scopely.
Its ok, ww3 will change everything š
This arch is deff lack luster and Money grabbing even more than usual. So many armada events is unenjoyable
The only thing missing now is that a defiant is launched for a fortune with a hostile grinding or car-armada ship ability...
evening, does anybody know if there will be a iss jellyfish BP SBL event during this battlepass?
I think there is one
The problem is this event alone is taxing on directives supplies, then to have it run two days in a row is pretty bad. But on top of this, weāve had armada event after armada event after armada event and no realistic way to source directives. I usually buy the galactic armada pack when available so im not adverse to spending for directives but I didnāt this time because I think the pace of armada events is too much. Also, the packs for the solo armada directives are insanely bad. I love the new armadas but wonāt spend to get these directives if the packs they have out are how theyāre going to be selling them. So theyāre getting more demanding on directives and offering less attractive ways to get them and the armada rewards themselves are not great. Do I want to spend my rare directives on a carmada or ds armada? Clearly ds armada wins out.
It's simple folk if we disengage from these game mechanic they will notice and have to change. The more of us that do that the better. There plenty of other game mechanics to work with.
How insane to run same armada event twice i. A row?? You need more than 40 armadas ! This is IMMORAL
Simple: Does not change the game every month, does not change events that we have had for years and that we are preparing for (auction). You can bring new stuff, but dont kidding the players every month. And dont disapoint the players who pay for this game. No money from us, no money for you. Stfc goes down and you all lost your jop. This is simple economy
And I won't pay anything more as long as there are no more auction events. And I invest a lot in this game
Really? Back to back event armadas, not to mention a solo armada event that has ZERO possibility of completion unless you buy packs...
We can start a petition, the more pkayers sign it, the greater effect it'll have on them
Using a boycott is definently a way.
Knows Paramount how Scopely Crashes the Game ?
As long as they get paied, i think they won't care about it
Petition?
Just give the game low review in Google and App Store. That will work the best.
where do i find the mission? i dont see it in the holodeck
I need to get some of what scoobley is smokin
Missions are in milestone 10 & 14
#1 revenue stream for Scopely it seems
14 is day 14 isnt it? i hav e 9 days to finish the event... something wrong here?
Milestone 14 is not 14th day, it will be sooner
Will do
We just reach milestone 10 today, so I except the rest to be available in 5 days max
@pseudo rune really more armadas what about the free to play who don't have any do to all the events of armadas I can't even get the new officer ones do to armadas after Armada events
He's not here, you are talking to your hand
Yay!!! More mada events with no sourcing! Go Scope!
Well i bet my review will be deleted the second they see it
they really don't care about f2p.
True but they need them for the numbers and for they whale to have a reason to play. And @pseudo rune what have a community manager if they don't care about the community they could just save money by dropping that especially if they can't or don't do anything anyway scopely certainly not listening to the players or Whales and with all the hype they give and now all the bad publicity stfc is getting...
Shhhh, itās the weekend, you know, when most people have time to play games,but when the devs and community managerā¦. Donāt work.
Its always interesting how the most poorly received events are rolled out on weekends.
Yep if u have a game with most of the people playing on the weekend the cm should be around another reason why have one of there not here I haven't seen anyone help.. all I here is he can't do anything.. but he works for them he should be able to help if not what's the point
The point is to give lip service to the players and make it feel like they are heard while keeping most issues ignored, unanswered, and unsolved.
PR positions with a lot of companies are like that, be the punching bag but allow for nothing to actually change.
The cost of that is far less than the cost of actually rectifying whatever issues caused the need for the pr person.
Do they ever work?
Probably already said on here, but the armada event scoring is ridiculous. Scopely have said previously they want to reduce screen time but have to date increased it dramatically and at the same time devalued the starts required for armadas as the loot for the cardasian armadas do not eqate to what is being spent compared to normal ones. They need to reduce the directives cost for cardasian armadas, increase the rate in which directives are obtained, increase the loot and also improve the scoring to reduce screen time... this is just for this event let alone others
Mantis grind is long as well. Now we grind gem hadar. Million different things to mine and stay on top of its kind of crazy
This is the role CC play as well. They arenāt there to carry player voices to the publisherā¦theyāre there to help the publisher find exactly how far players can be pushed.
Unless scopely will listen to its players, unfortunately I can see them losing way more. People like this game but unfortunately scopely is pushing too much new content without even fixing the old... they need to get it right
New content keeps people throwing bags of money at them, fixing anything costs money with a lower roi. Guess what is going to keep happening.
Not if there quiting we had 3 or the biggest spenders quit lately It's why they keep throwing all this random other stuff to spend on because the bigger spenders are heading out which means they're failing on doing their job to getting content that people want
Hey bro, we heard you commenting on the grind. So hereās more grind to grind away on because we keep seeing grind as a keyword in our metrics. Weāre also going to add more red pips to help you know what grinds you still are expected to do daily.
I'm sure, more downtime, delayed Arcs, Incursions et al to correct all the crap in the game in terms of bugs would be welcomed generally by its customers, sadly this would cost them $$
Anyone make guerrilla with Bajoran today? If so, what do the favors cost at that lvl?
They donāt care. If they did they would have had an actual town-hall style meet and greet with randomly drawn players across different spending metrics and heard concerns, likes, and dislikes and put up a roadmap of changes coming while having an actual community representation helping guide or reign in some of the decision making, and those community members wouldnāt be CCs, who are just another group of people with a financial stake in the game alongside Scopely
Their only real interest is how cheaply can they convert your money to theirs.
Counterattack requires waaaayyyy too many armadas. It's ridiculous
Just donāt do it then? š¤
Yep, doesnāt matter how warranted that talk is to try and get the game people actually want to support long term, you canāt talk it here
This is why Scopely and its minions don't a f about us.
@silver pike if you guys would actually care about the community there wouldn't be any need for this kind of acts!!!
Why am i not able to add an emoji to this post?
Actually it wouldnāt matter what Scopley did. People that havenāt read the rules will still do it
He blocked you bud
lol
Would recommend you read the rules regardless what you think since they will always apply š
#š -rules-and-roles12
A good way to mute people who want to protest against you and the others who don't seem to care.
Whats with all the Slowmode? Hardly anyone is typing.
You can protest. Just donāt break the rules.
Articulate
Why isnt 'Cardassian Counterattck' event listed on the calendar news letter?
@silver pike
Not sure. Iāll look into it
Please do, I think a majority of players would have changed plans on how to spends directives if they had known this would be a back to back event.
Fabulous, what exactly should i do with this generous mission reward? Giving lv34 mission to lv45 is just hilarious
Use it towards your next scrapping d3 since the g4 progression is still borked
Never done it never will.
I m scrapping one just now š
Wow
What? Too much sarcasm?
A bold statement
Oh you already know it's going to be cardmada.
I hope it is. Iām doing just fine beating cardmadas, plenty of loot for pulls. So if they make the defiant a specialty ship, it will be one less one i need to deal with. Same for the solo armadas
To be fair I have zero logical ideal what scopley will do next.
I bet on a ship to raid starbase. They have a protected cargo after all.
You were warned in Star Trek Fleet Command. Reason: insulting
How utterly predictable that they would see my comment as an insult. Being a moderator on an official scopley discord chat must be a soul crushing experience. One would hope a billion dollar company could pay the moderators to enforce the rules. Unless of course enforcing the rules is a vocation not a job.
Whatever it is, it most certainly will just continue to increase the gap between the whales and the dolphins/f2p. All the checks and balances in this game are going out the window.
Say whatever you want but insulting community volunteers is an incredibly low move. Considering we are also players and part of the same community
You volunteer to work for free for a billion dollar company??? Wow.
Moderators aren't employed by scopely so....they don't get paid. They volunteer thier time to moderate.
Theres an entire page that outlines rules....they aren't that difficult to follow.
Hey at least you got a warning. I got a 8 hr ban during free gaila
Will this arc get any more content? Cause I'm not a hyper grinder but this is verging on being more boring than the between arc week.
Why would anyone volunteer time to a billion dollar company to moderate their official discord page. It isnāt like this is a user created community page. It is here to facilitate the profit of the corporation. Why would anyone freely give their time to a company so obviously fixated on profit. Donāt they value their own time? Or do they just really enjoy enforcing rules
This is a really valid point. Moderators are paid in a way people often forget about : fuelling their ego and self-esteem. That's the only way someone would volunteer to moderate a forum for a game which people pay to play. Your key trait is knowing more than others... Or at least thinking you do
Helping other players have value
Which is why it should be a paid position. Unless you are suggesting scopley wouldnāt help players if they had to pay for it.
Why does anyone volunteer to do anything they could get paid to do....
Volunteering for scopley is like volunteering for Raytheon or Northrop-Grumman
I think I might volunteer for Facebook or Google, I can go around and update all the business names and phone numbers in my local area and exercise at the same time! Genius. Goodnight š
If you want to talk to paid employees, there consumer support.
Here is a community discord, to help each other or talk about the game. Moderators help keeping with discord safe so that the community can find answer to their question. They are also helping everyone of us a lot.
You mean the in game customer support that is basically a bot? They will pay for a bot but they expect real people to work for free.
This isnāt a ācommunity pageā. It is the official scopley discord account. The moderators are doing public relations work for free. I bet they wonāt even be able to use it on a resume. Probably had to sign a non disclosure agreement.
Why do people clean up trash from the streets? To keep their neighbourhood clean.
Same goes for volunteer mods in games/discord.
They prefer a cleaner discord for the community they enjoy being part of.
It has very little to do with feeling superior. I know cause I've had similar role in other game (granted, that was not a p2w mobile gambling machine but a normal mmorpg)
How does a rule against boycotting etc make this forum āunsafeā. Except to scopleyās profit margin?
They say they do it for free, i do not believe it, not for a second.
I think Cand1e signed an extra "never say anything negative about Scopely" agreement.
It doesn't, but they have to enforce that as part of their role to be able to also enforce the useful roles.
@clever ibex pretty sure most of these games don't offer payment for this kind of work unless you do it for a very long time or spend a specific amount of time on it.
"if you can't stand the heat, get out of the warp core"
That sounds like being required to report people to the police that come into a drug treatment clinic.
Blame it on the algorithm .... š
Well if scopley coded the algorithm⦠god help us
Lol. Wrong franchise. This is Star Trek.
You say potato i say vodka
Still fits š¤£
Make me a community manager. Iāll trash it for free
That's starting to sound exactly like what you accuse Scopely of.
Have a look around, there are lots of people trying to improve their communities at their own cost. It's not always about money, not always about getting paid. They want to do it because they like helping people.
I got a day lol
So its been hours. Why wasnt Cardassian Counterattack SMS event not listed in calendar. Most of the community may have changed their plans if it had been listed back to back.
I got banned for a day for commenting on the basic concept of supply and demand you can learn about in high school economics during the free gaila event. š¤·āāļø
Banned me for throwing a link that said certain parts of Cali were out of power and thats why Gaila was still locked up
#freegaila day was a good day. Perhaps why we are being punished with this ridiculous sms
I complain in hopes that scopley will listen and change course, I know silly me.
Exactly why do you obsessively defend them and enforce rules so obviously designed to protect their profits at the expense of the player base and not listen to anything but $$$$. I mean I would think you should get a piece of the action if all you are going to do is protect them from their own incompetence and greed.
I blame people/corps for things that are of entirely their own fault all the time. But I certainly don't accuse someone of something I don't know or have reason to believe.
I understand that money occupies your mind quite strongly, but it's not that way for everyone. I enforce rules because I was asked to when I signed up to be a moderator, and I'm a stickler with rules and decorum. Why do you want to break them?
If scopley had any self respect or desire beyond $$$$ the least they could do is fix the bugs in the existing product. That would take no deep thought about the direction of the franchise or the game and wouldnāt require much creative thought to develop new and engaging content. Granted it wouldnāt generate lost of lucre but that is kinda the point of my complaints now isnāt it.
So your motivation is you get off on enforcing rules. Gotcha.
No, my motivation is wanting to help the community. The fact that I'm a stickler with rules had no bearing.
I don't allow people to break rules when it's my role to stop them.
So your defense of his legitimate criticism is to ignore everything he said and instead try to say that āmoney occupies his mindā? Are you serious? How is this helpful in any way? Youāre not helping the community by trying to attack the individuals here at all. I rarely post here because this discord does seem to be a waste of time but sometimes I just cant help myself and write something when people expose such colossal hypocrisy.
What legitimate criticism am I attacking? Moderators and other helpers are not all about the money or about protecting those that make money.
You red guys will defend anything scopely says. You havenāt even read what he wrote; instead you decided to attack him despite knowing nothing about the player. Then proceeded to pretend youāre here to help the community. How are you helping exactly?
If you want to change that rule, or any rule, you have to go through scopely. Not harass the helpers.
That's exactly what you do!
Help protect those who make money!
It's not within my power to change the rules unilaterally. Do it the right way.
He didnt say anything about changing the rules, why are you making these things up now? You are now āharassedā because people are defending the guy you try to slander? Wrong time to make such jokes. I can only assume that was a joke of course.
after digging through a train wreck, got ur message!
And do free public relations and damage control. You should at least demand to get paid for that. Which was the point of my first, now censored, comment
Then you didn't read what he wrote.
I have. I've been following the conversation. You're playing the victim now but its way overplayed at this point with you guys.
Harass the helpers. What a new low.
folks please take ur argument to PM, this is needless drama that has no bearing on STFC content... thanks
Next step will be for you, or your buddy who you'll undoubtedly call for help, to tell us to switch off from the topic that YOU started and talk about something else.
I guess asking pointed questions of community moderators is harassment now. I kinda thought that was their job. One they should be paid for.
Itās not like they are listening to the event feedback so I guess chatting is ok. Maybe galaxy chat
I constantly criticise everyone and my comments never get removed except for when I swear š
thats your personal opinion
I think people are trying to articulate that blind adherence to a rule, ie the no talk about boycotting regardless of how warranted it may be given actions and inactions taken by Scopely, is just defaulting to a couple logical fallacies for the sake of not having to think through the issues being brought up consistently by players. Among the greatest hits being used so far are the blind loyalty/good soldier/team player and the Finish the Job fallacies.
Scopely, sigh.
Well i did not swear. Yet my comment was removed. Cause it may have damaged their income
Youāre under the belief that this discord is a free place to say whatever you want. It isnāt. If you want that, make your own. It doesnāt matter if you disagree with it - it aināt yours to decide.
It never was a free place to do that. It never was designed as such either. The problem is that you have these reds pretending to be these good guys for the community while for the most part, they are little more than scopely shills, who would sooner wait for a reason to ban you than lift a finger to help with these legitimate concerns.
Lovely appeal to authority there. Why didnāt you just post ālove it or leave itā
Accept it or leave it š¤·āāļø
All this
I thought posting gifs was a rule violation. Am I mistaken. If so why is it not removed
Itās also really fun when Scopely relies on things like discord to communicate game changes and issues to players, but refuses to accept discord conversations regarding the sale and resale of accounts and people running multiples for the sake of selling them as any sort of game-related issue.
lmao. singin to my heart's tune with that gif bein in sign
Mods are here to create the space where you can talk about the things you care about, and a place for someone to listen. They aren't standard bearers for your cause or anyone's cause. Giving them that role while having mod powers would stifle discussion and is rife with potential for abuse.
lol. This comment is more insulting and rude than the one that started this all when it was deleted. I wonder if the moderators will moderate this
Highly unlikely
Then quit pretending to be. And, at the very least, quit being biased towards Scopely at the point where people see you as little more than dirty shills. You consistently stifle discussion, that comment was just silly, really.
With emphasis in abuse.
If you actually stopped to ask the mods what they think about Dukat's sourcing, then ask them. There's not a single one that's in support of how it went out. But that doesn't mean mods should ignore rule breakers and allow them to ruin the forum.
So if I wanted to talk about a boycott you wouldnāt use your power as moderators to stifle conversation?
You're not allowed to incite a boycott. It's in the rules. Ask scopely to change the rules if you want to.
mods arent the ones that decide what shall happen ingame. they are simply messengers.... yall shootin messengers hopin for an effect when theres none to be had
Lol people are mad because mods wonāt let them incite a boycott? Hahahahahahahahhahahahahah
u wanna boycott? dont play the game, period
You keep trying to create this rule breaker strawman. Why? The discussion hasnāt been about that, yet you keep trying to go there. I donāt mind the gul sourcing, what bothers me is the way you guys, you reds, treat anyone here and the demeanor you have. I HATE that you pretend to be community helpers while doing the complete opposite.
Well at the moment I am not. Sooo
They are doing a very poor job at delivering messages.
no but ur complaining about something else related to the game on a platform basically made by community for the community
Your point is taken. And tbh being moderator no thanks.
The problem was and is players were angry before this weekend. And after the poor yet again event, even more so angry.!!
This is the official scopley discord page FFS it isnāt a community developed page.
Honestly the big issue is that the devs donāt actually play the game. The testing for these things, from the streamer videos, seems to consist of loading up a server where the user has access to everything and in unlimited quantities. The reds tend to be lower level players from what Iāve seen too, who spend more time here āpolicingā than playing.
best way to get ur complaint heard is to open a support ticket and hope for the best result. you aint gonna get what u want every time...
Check you blood alcohol level, cause you are drunk
still is a community page
If it were a community page we could change the rules by community agreement. We canāt. We have to go to scopley and beg audience
why do you think that? lol
If this game delivered quality content and information every month, would not be problem that scopely has caused especially in 2022
You mean the ingame support system run by a bot that scopley pays more the license than all the red moderators.
As i say, he should check his blood alcohol levels
that is your interpretation... still is a community page, and your remark about the support system is laughable at best
Have you ever used the support system?
yes many times. some to success, some to no success. LMAO. Onsite chat turning into a threaded email conversation taking place over a few weeks... sure im talking to a bot yall make me laugh
When you read some of these support interactions that others have had, its hard to believe that its actually real. It gets so crazy that youāre convinced its staged. In my case, over the 40 or so months on the game, Iāve only had one successful interaction with support; where they were able to unstuck my stuck/invisible ship after a few days of messages.
So @desert laurel you see the role of a moderator to help the users. Hmmm. So what exactly have you guys done to help the community encourage scopley to do better. What criticisms posted in the forums have you championed to scopley and pushed them to do. Iām curious. Have you even helped resolve one bug or changed the direction of one arc?
Most of their solution involve dumping cache, reinstalling restarting etc and hoping the error doesnāt happen again rather than trying to determine the cause and fix the problem. It is all about triage of a dying patient.
The triangle of death
they are reading a script that makes em sound like a bot... alot of people dont realize most support systems are based on whats called tiered level support. first person u contact is usually a bot or a paid low level out of country reading scripts completely, but gets escalated if issue isnt addressed.
out of curiosity i checked on my most recent ticket (submitted sunday sept 25th) about an event i finished but never got the rewards. the ticket was not resolved but closed on thursday oct 6th, then i had to re open it, and it still hasnt gotten a response.
lul
Scopely doesnt like Tiny Ricks Shyandi, pwr must have a man on the inside.
No actually Tidus. It IS an actual bot. I forget the name of it but it is actually an AI they pay to manage the ingame support systems. You actually have to go about 5 e-mails deep before you get to a real person if your get that far
what i just said in other words....
oh man you get emails from them? wow you are lucky. i give my email and i never get an email for my ticket.
Scopely will never find this ānicheā of rich people willing to dump money into a game again. It would behoove them to make this work instead of tanking it
not to mention the loss of people fed up with the greed
scopely is like 4th generation made with Zynga money. lol
Those guys made money off micro transactions. This is a huge cash grab that screwed up because it worked
I mean the best way they could stop me from complaining is make a working product I can participate in. Iām level 32 I donāt even get to access the new flawed content. All I get to do is flog 46 uncommon armadas for less than 100 mil trit. Itās not even worth the repair bill
it works because people dont have control over their impulses.... businesses know this lol
Maybe if they did a Babylon 5 game. But it would suck cause none of the runners would have watched the series.
You would have had me at battlestar galactica
half of the people i interact with ingame have no idea what star trek is all about. lol
$100 has never been micro
I used to play zynga games, whatever they were, canāt remember. I didnāt spend 50k on them
inflation's in play..... and NFT's have become a thing
Takes 46 uncommon arms to complete.... this arc runner shouldn't be let near another arc ever again
yeah... scopely lookin for revenues.... directive packs #1 revenue stream
This event nothing more than a cash grab.
I think after they messed up latinum as ingame currency with latinum mine they needed a new in game currency you have to purchase to participate. It seems to me armada directives, especially rare and epic, have become this new currency to force spending.
and they need to get back on the borg aspect of the game, it seems abandoned?
So many abandoned features
Seriously who can honestly afford to drop 10's of thousands of dollars/euro/whatever every month?
Like this one
And what motivation does anyone new have to join the game. They still advertise it but you canāt really do any new content till 32. Or level 35. That takes a while unless you spend a house worth of money
docs... people with allowances
Or this one....3 years and counting
Or stolen credit cards.
Or as you said earlier, that NFT money
Heck I donāt even have Darwin yet
they basically introduced a new crew to replace the original PMC crew... nevermind these common officers that get left behind
Scopley the ultimate rug pull. Lol.
scopely's probably a massive money laundering operation
first biggest game Zynga made bank with was Mafia wars... what ya expect?
Gene Roddenberry is doing cartwheels in his grave
Any particular reason why capital systems have not been fixed for weeks?????????????????????Kinda gotta do dailies!!!!!
Which makes it understandable that they wouldnāt pay the moderators. Lol.
They donāt care.
Sell both of your kidneys and maybe, just maybe, they still won't fix it.
im sure someone already has tried that
The biggest they donāt care moment is that mantis is 100% p2p and itās systems are 100% broken
whats worse is these broken hostiles/nodes thatve ben there since day one
Well as the bs piles up I just spend more on puff puff and laugh at the thought of giving them even a red cent.
But they made a script to repair that issue š
And itās only slow mode so the mods can slowly cry themselves to sleep
at least it runs more smoothier than STO does n prettier graphics than ST timelines
I'd say the devs more on that. The more they pizz us off the less we spend eventually meaning "sorry guys, no paychecks this week, or ever!"
rage spending works... its a proven approach
Scopley treats the devs like the servers. They just merge them and or move them to a new game.
No itās a candle being burned at both ends. They made their money but they donāt realize they could make more by just fixing the game
I cause more of that than I do lol.
its an opportunist business model, what did ya expect?
Itās a failed cash grab. They thought theyād make money and get out of town. Unfortunately for them, thereās people that want to play this game
I dunno how much it would have cost him but I made a player pay to go from 39 to 43 plus all the research etc to be able to take us downš
I hope we incursion 26 next
incurse*
And he was the one that started the fight lmao.
gotta keep his ego blown up lol
whats annoying is i get "Armada was cancelled" when we win the armada
wow scopley thats dirty they changed the armada and hostile to just armada
Hostiles didn't even score in yesterday's event š
46 armadas at 7 minutes each, that's almost 6 hours...
The Armada event points are way too high for two days in a row. Realistic would have been 1200 points (10 uncommon worse case). Thatās still 70 minutes of screen time. Right now itās half a day if you arenāt getting epics or rares.
Do better Scopely
They really should make it so if you do 5-10 uncommon armadas you get enough to start one rare armada. And then same ratio for rare to epic.
And top reward is what 1.5x a refinery pull...? Such utter garbage
didn't you know? in capitalist scopely, you pay for a job!
Seriously scopay? The armada event requires us to do how many uncommon madas to complete? Do u think we are so free to keep checking phone on a WORKING DAY for several hours just to complete stupid event? You guys have either lost the plot or lack simple common sense. Why cant u do a bit of sanity check on your events?
If u have to constantly rely on community feedback to improve or to fix stuff, and even continue to make the same mistakes time and again, then someone needs to be fired!
It's a joke I did the first blew most of my directives, just not going to do this one. Other than not having the directives I just don't have the time. Real life and work are more important. Scopely are doing a bad thing here, not encouraging a good balance of screen time along with all the other stuff they expect people to do too. It's not healthy physically or mentally.
Is there a jellyfish auction this month?
Does the bajoran credit exchange change based on rep? Currently tolerated, 108 badges for 75 credits.
How much is your directive exchange and hostile exchange
I just did them. I think 198k triple chest for 3x108.
It changed based on ops at least, ops 39 tolerated is 99 badges for 62 credits and hostile exchange is 51k for the triple pull which gives 3x99
@desert laurel @silver pike @desert laurel any news on Additional events for epic Officer shards? Or auction. Etc. We are flying blind this Arc.
I update #š«-event-information with the most up-to-date information as I know it.
I think 108 per hostile chest, triple is 198k loot. Favour 100, credits 108, can't remember directives.
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You made the mistake of thinking they actually listen to community feedback.
Eco listens. He tries very hard on here to get everyoneās issues heard. Donāt know about what happens after that.
Pretty sure anything Eco talks to the devs about just gets promptly ignored. 90% sure they just hired him as a PR guy to take the heat.
I donāt know. I just know he does try very hard to hear everyone here. Thatās all my comment was about
So any idea about if it changes by bajoran rep? Trying to figure out if better to get credits before or after I go to next rep band
Honestly I donāt know. I am in the same boat as SwimmingPilot. Ops 39 and tolerated. I assume the full faction store is unlocked at Ops 40+ so I canāt compare even if I wanted to
Best to wait till some Infograph is come out then we can figure it out
So someone from scopely saw something was amiss yesterday.. meaning they knew players were pissed⦠and their answer was to change the description to REMOVE hostiles instead of just TURN ON hostiles for scoring? This has been by far the most customer hostile arc. If this isnāt answered for Iām pretty much done with this game.
the truth is that this game is not free to play anymore, well has it ever been? arrived at level 38 and even more arrived at the barrier of 40 it's over, the players below these levels are just there to make numbers and attract others, and there are still players who continue to pay to be scammed?
To me f2p ends at 46, that's the last ship you're getting in a reasonable amount of time. Sure there's a path in G4 past 46s to the next one, but I really don't see f2p players playing that long. That said, that's years of content, free even since you've chosen that path, and the game's pretty enjoyable for that time.
for those who pay for the battle pass, do you dont mind having to pay extra to participate in the battle pass events? it's funny how we are taken for idiots
Only one event a day is for the battlepass and it is always free to do, although domination is questionable.
Yesterday's? you can use ship exp for that one. The domination events that don't allow xp are the harder ones.
yes of course like saying that the arc is for 35+ while 35/36 do not even have the level to pass anything other than the lowest armada of doom and that to manage to do one of the events you have to do .....of the rare
Thats why i said its questionable. Usually ship xp or officer xp will complete, but if you havenāt built that upā¦
Armadas are never ārequiredā for the battlepass event.
Keep in mind, the battlepass event is the event that gives you you points for the battlepass, nothing else.
there is the shuttle event also that is questionable
So thats all the events? Seems they either removed something or didnt have enough to shuffle some things together
The event calendar this month is weak. 1 day of ticket events per week, usually its 3 days. There are also typically a few days each week for new officers, and then other events like Syndicate, Away team, maybe cloaking, and something that revolves around new features.
Week 4 looks particularly barren
BP seasons are usually 3 weeks. The fact that lists 4, is very unusual.
So ??? Is likely incursion prep?
Looks like those 2 event days are outside of the bp even.
Halloween event šš¦
Aaaaah yea
The orange colour should have been a clue
On current form whatās more likely trick or treat tho š¤
I have no idea š just a guess lol. We will know the 29
Incursion most likely that weekend as well.
Gummi gagh, tardigrades, and lego events last year, iirc.
Yea, I liked the share or not thing
Like in real life. Share the gummies you don't like, keep the good ones for you š¤£
I hope I get to spend those
keep in mind all event add outside the common event had something to do with the arc of battle pass, so if you want to be screw like this it is your buisness, but for me this game become boring, in addition to the fact that the star trek universe is massacred, to believe that those who make this game have never in their lives seen the original series or have never understood what it is. It's just fan service
Fan exploitation
There is a difference between the arc events and the battlepass events. The battlepass events are usually Worm hunting (which is just a hostile hunt), threat something (hunt borg probes or swarm), hostile hunt (arms optional), a mining event, clear the coast (outlaw, arms optional), Unity (alliance helps or donations), and Domination. Of all those events, i would say only Domination might require some sort of spend, IF you have not been stocking ship xp, officer xp or latinum. Those events unlock the battlepass track, which also gives you some tickets to participate in at least one ticket event per week. Plus missions and the overflow, which usually allows you to miss one of the above per month, but not always. All of the above requires zero dollars (unless as noted for domination) to complete and gives you the battlepass rewards.
The other events are sometimes centered around the arc line or new feature, but all of those events are optional. No one has to do them. Most of the time the cost (whether time or mats or other) does not equal the reward, but no one is twisting any ones arm to complete them.
So can someone just confirm for me please, unless you pay, you will not be able to get Dukat this month right?
Correct
Wow....a new low from scopely?
Pretty much. This whole arc is a low so far though
At least with SNW strike team I remember we at least had an SLB to recruit them.....but this??? It's sickening how badly p2w this game has become
@fresh peak any plans to make the t4 freesha warp core available to purchase more than once ?
#freeDukat
Any chance for an officer recruiting slb anytime soon?
Not for dukat, if they did it at this point the people who were misguided enough to spend $600 will throw a fit
Ok, thanks. Didnt habe one for months if Iām correct.
Need help. I have 22.5 points left for final tier of event for the last dukat shards. I can start 1 rare. Says 100 points. How is it calculated. Would that finish that event for me? Dont want ti waste the rare if it wont. Any help would be appreciated
You need 23 points?
A rare will get you 20k points (200 directives x 100 points each)
Assume he means 22.5k
Ohh 22500
You need another epic for 37.5k points
Yeah
Ok ty
Nope, not enough
I see now how its calculated
Nope
I was saving collecting bp for today event.
But if i did i could start a rare.
But of course you can go for the epic Armada Pack in the store 
Obviously it wouldnt help
Yes, 1 epic = 94% of 2 rare. So in fact 1 rare š¤·
And yes. I meant i need 22.5 to finish
Either you do 4 rare for 80k, or you do epic but you will end up short or wasting directive for only a few k points
I have 3 tiers done. Last tier thats whats left
I guess ill live without the 5 shards lol
Keep them for next week, the event will run again
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Everything points to Scopely deciding theyāve had enough of free or freemium players saving up for months and playing smartly to unlock important officers or ships.
If youāve been around long enough you remember officer recruiting was originally dominance scoring, then moved onto mats, then recently they tried a dominance style that doesnāt count ship or officer xp and you couldnāt use mats on ships this way to help score, and now we have this spend or get out method.
Look back at the history of event scoring and see along they way they have kept removing things that people can earn more through play and effort and without purchasing from key event scoring. Officer intel, ship xp, trait xp for away teams, finished away teams ready to be redeemed (now itās start away teams recently), and so on.
This is likely the new metric for officer sourcing, spend or leave.
Probably right. š
Thanks
And quite honestly I dare a dev or eco to come and give us a past and future roadmap that refutes what I said, along with explanations as to why event scoring metric keep getting more restrictive to a pay to complete style.
Fewer players mean fewer server hamsters to buy feed for.
Will this money consuming Dukat pack with 10 shards and a 0,5% of a full chance be out again this month?
Because besides of being greedy now causing FOMO isnāt very nice.
@pseudo rune Can we have a full month of Cardassian armadas please?
Not a peep from any scopely 𤔠all weekend
After this latest fiasco from Scopely even @pseudo rune is in hiding lol
Iām sure you will have plenty of opportunities to give your money for a Dukat
But ā¦.. thatās what we have already šš
They donāt work weekends, despite that being when most of their players have extra time for the more complained about and problematic events and releases.
Oh yeah? You think if the cc payment system went down weād be still waiting to buy packs?
Or work, at all.
Just because in about 30 Minutes there will be new things to be talked about here:
Not happy with the new officer sourcing and also: the Cardassian Armada event is way too much in time and directives for almost nothing in return. š„ŗ
Yep, another š© aramada event š¤£
understanding the full implementation of gul dukat isn't that cut and dried.. essentially for players under a certain threshold... this paid-only ends up sucking.. on our server anyone under ops 32 this sucks for.. as most could probably get a full unlock including BP spending practically nothing.
then for players in a middle threshold it ends up being a wash.. again for us there are enough spenders from 32-25 (and those spending less in the 36-39) that to get a full unlock on the SLB you'd need two SLBs and likely either save not participating in pass SLBs (not getting those officers) or buying a pack or two. for that middle tier this likely ends up a wash.
then for players in an upper tier.. this is likely much cheaper for them to get a full unlock. basically $600 for t2 which is likely less than they would have spent to win both SLBs in a month.
not saying your frustration isn't warranted.. if you are in that lowest threshold this is probably more expensive than any epic with double SLBs previously.
They were out spending our moneyā¦
And the whole thing is also entirely based on Luck. Cuz you could spend $100 and get 2 lucky pulls. So you'd have T2 for $100
Lucky pull chance is 1 in 200.
I've really enjoyed these events over wknd š š©
More like 1 in 1M
1 person in my alliance got 2 lucky pulls. And another got 1 lucky pull.
No, itās 1 in 200, exactly.
Somebody has to! š
Yup pretty good for $100, they are like 60 shards short now for T3 or something like that
And the 199 other suckers got 4 shards
Well 597. Cuz 2 people got 3 lucky pulls between them.
Are they whales? I bet there is a spend algorithm in there
So a recruit officer event with no officer shards š«£
again on store money
Itās a really bad joke and we are the victims
worst events and rewards, definitely losing any excitement left for DS9
we really are only going to get 21 shards of each rare officer this month....
nope, not going to go get my ship blown up 100 times by a 50+ so i can probably get to the 1st MS
we are supposed to pay for all 3 officers this month.
You really donāt know your player base. W70 system
Is it possible to stop putting this guy in the Syndicate event if you arenāt going to source him in it!
@pseudo rune 2 new recruit cardassian events that give no officer shards. Your guys have completely lost the plot here. This month sucks. You guys did ds9 dirty for sure.
why is first place getting less shards than 2nd ?
Lol
scopely math ... is interesting
First place is supposed to be full unlock for both...
tbh, this is the most entertaining discord server i am in... the amount of screwups are just priceless
I got you beat, the sms is physically impossible for me to score on, since I donāt have one of those ships or officers. I thought last month was bad, but this month is proving to be worse somehow. And that follows a crappy arc for snw.
What ops?
PvP eventā¦.swapping trit to win steelā¦thatās a pass, lolā¦
last month at least had an event store that was fairly decent... this one is missing
The SMS is a joke, bit like this arc⦠Why bother?
players: do we get to spend the remaining store currency in the next arcs ?
scopely: sure do ...
... 1 months later ...
scopely: we wont have an arc store this time
An avatar for a recruit SLB? really?
to be fair a bunch of you all said you would spend money on ds9 no matter the content
guess they are expecting to give you all the most $$$ offers possible because of the past comments
Ops 52, don't have any of these ships. Have a Pilum and Korinar, saving creds for a Vor'cha
More events to skip.... š
Today's events...what is going on lol
These events are a joke and this game has become a bad joke.
Hahaha scopely must be the most shallow company ever. Putting a event that only is epic ships!!!
And guess what?? ..... yeah no suprise there the BP packs are in my cashshop.... realy you think i could not recist the urge
Just when you thought it couldnāt get worseā¦scoply finds a wayā¦congratulations
Haha
@ Eco ship bands in pvp event mean many canāt even take part
Doing my battlepass and signing of to today this is a joke
Same
Yea not gonna bother either, Iām sick of being whale fodder
they took off the alternative to hostile hitting like they had in the past because they want players to lose more goods
I am just skipping all forced PvP events until they actually balance PvP, or limit the level ranges that the PvP counts for
š¤£
my ops 40 ships vs ops 52 wont cut it
Second day in a row, skipping events.
And you can stuff that ārecruitā SLB
I love PVP but if you ship donāt score, canāt even be fodder š¤£š„
Itās a š³ arc, card required on entry
Itās a
arc, card required on entry
fixed it for you š
This. Scopely blatantly misrepresented while technically didnāt lie. Itās a BS way of treating your player base.
Same!
Same position mate, Ops 51, don't have any of the G4 Epics and not high enough Shipyard to even think of building the rest yet.
So basically op 51 it's epic g4 or nothing?
3rd for me ya slacker šš
You can screenshot me the event š
bunch of them have posted in #š¬-general-feedback
lol
Their should be a hostile alternative @pseudo rune ops team is really letting the side down this arc.
The bajor arc was a good idea but the rest of the events this arc is š©
I know, i just want to see what ships are specified for an op 51
What on earth is Recruiting Cardassian Rebel Ver. (SLB)?????????????
We are bidding for an avatar??
Why?????????????
@pseudo rune tell them to fire the whole team
Problem will be is warp range most likely. Iām luck with my g3 epics I pushed mine more than most do
So how come the Latinum mining event has better rewards than all the stupid arc events combined?
Shards? š§
Because itās aā¦warā¦game? š¤£šš¤£š
actually as a ops 39, completed all tiers of this sms in one pvp fight
yeah no officer recruiting today....pass
officer packs are also š©
What a boring ARC this is.. wow what a real let down.. I am going to stop believing the people with these twitch and discord site that give out info.. they have all lied about this ARC.. saying its not the content its the delivery.. its anyone who is giving help to Scopely in mu opinion..
A Recruiting Cardassians event with no way to Recruit Cardassians. Without a credit card that is... After the weekend of meh that also featured spend only.
Stupid events Scopley shooting themselves in the foot! The worst arc for events
Credit card only Arc
So yesterday's armada event took 46 uncommon armadas to complete, today's took 1 kill to complete all the milestones
what system is PVP in?
Stradania, 120 warp range
The system was listed in the event description for me, hot link too.
I can't get to it!
Ops 33 pvp event is only for epic ships or Sarco⦠nice going
Lol amazing, 33s can't even build an epic ship
This is the first month since the battlepass came out that I will not buy, ds9 arc 2 is clearly worse than the ferengi arc. Bajoran faction is great but nothing focusing on it, or Starbase or the newer research
This arc runner has to be the worst one yet
should be rare also. ops 39 I can use gladius etc
I see big comp chest coming.. š¤©
Send him/her/they back to work at the Starbucks they got em from
??? it's w70
I don't think there is anyone in the office, don't count on that
Huh, where is you base located? It's w70 for me.
It is warp 70
I think is because I moved my base to Dark space?
This PvP event only counts for specific ships in a single system?
any ship, but only one system
I killed a ship with my Sally. No points
Jep, where you currently are needs w120 to leave (or get to from normal space).
I know reading is so hard
thanks @elder comet I re-read it and was going to post that as well
I just used my ISS, and was done in two hits
āAny damage dealt in Nibiq between any of the following ships will ALSO scoreā it says
Yea different systems for different brackets
So this event is impossible to complete if you donāt have the ships or Cardassian officers?
@pseudo rune We need to reduce the amount of currencies. Too many to maintain and too many to grind each day. This is not sustainable.
not any ship. I don't have any of the ships listed for ops 35. Hit their Sarcophagus (listed ship) with my D3 (not listed). They got points I didn't.
SHAME SCOPELY
at least there isn't an officer reward.
So if i don't have a G5 ship, i cant compete ?
The 32-34 segment is being updated to include a wider ship selection. I'd wait a bit and clear localization.
The players shouldn't have to point this type of stuff out to Scopley, they don't even know their own game! There is no hope really is there?
Lvl 40 i have to go to Stradiana. Warp 70! Meridian and Amalgan are able to go there ..... Great Idea Scopley!
I don't have any cardassian officers. Just need a ship in the pvp system
Just confirmed, had someone blow up my Pilum with their Tribune, no points for either. The first time a new event has ever worked as described š¤£
No G5 ship
So the Recruit Cardassian event doesnāt actually allow you to recruit any Cardassian officers?
G4 epic ships are available for the 51+ segment, as well as Cardassian scoring.
When did that change
Same for the battleship strike team
Arguably that ship banding is too narrow though. Given the cost of G4 epics, many players opt to skip those. Imho, G4 rares should be included (also because Ops 51/52 can't have G5 uncommons yet)
I don't think it ever changed, your SS shows them.
How do they do against the triangle? Or Battleship Strike Teams vs Interceptor Strike Team?
Yeah, I'm not gonna go buy a million creds for a G4 Epic for one event. Sitting it out.
The payouts are garbage anyway
Nice we get to fight over a garbage avatar and some lat
So is it just me or is this arc really bad and dull thats the first 1, and 2 is this arc going to be completely full with only $$$$ events. Because at the moment it looks like there is no balance!!
Here is a few things that i found untill now:
- no event store
- no officer auction
- all events till now are tailord to spending $$$ no balance what so ever. 2 days (seperate events) of cardasian armada. Syndicate you can only score if you spend $$$$. Event requiring ships i could buy with conveniantly $$$ blueprint packs in casshop.
- no riddle events with small rewards.
- almost no hostile events.
All this seems tailord to spend $$$ the balance is just so far gone. You need a telescope to find it back at this point!!
Anyone at ops 40 that can't get there g3 epic to warp 70 isn't a scopely issue.
Another easy day for me. No real events so daily's and close app
20 bucks says these events were supposed to pay out cardassian shards and they swapped em for mats last minute
True. But also this is one of the only events for resources and materials that is up for today. So i guess some people are just SOL.
Oh this arc is a complete fail
Sadly, I agree
No events and ones they managed to š© out are awful
Yeah i am done for today ill check back tommorow
So i can use a Cerritos or Fresha but not a Pilum, awesome
Scopely... Let's see if we can make the hate grow....
Boring and š©and poop rewards.
Live ops failures have completely overshadowed the bajoran stuff
Itās so bad that you might think $copley is doing it intentionally. But the devs and programmers couldnāt manage that even if they wanted to
Like where are the bajoran events? They rolled out this new faction and no events related to it, none
in the cash shop.
Another crap event to skip
I thought it couldnt get anyworse then incursions. I was wrong
Then they donāt want you playing.
Idk about that, if this game was 5 whales alone on a server....they wouldn't have a game
Normally I'm ok with events but this arc runner has really dropped the ball.
Was never picked up in the first place
10m flight 1 hit and event down. :/
They donāt care, they want money and lots of it or they are ready to drop the game and move on to the next IP for a couple years and milk that fan base dry then drop the game.
App games donāt generally last as long as this has already, and their inaction on providing a working quality product shows they didnāt expect people to keep spending as much or as long as they have.
I think it more simple they can't get arc runner engineering and game design to be all good at the same time.
This event is super dumb. Only attacking specific ships in one system and no other way to score points to complete an event
Garbage
So they actually went for full $$$ unlock for the three officers. That's a pretty ballsy move...
This game should be taken off Scopley and given to a proper gaming company.
Recruit SLB for an avatar takes the cake š
You would have to have a development roadmap and a decent amount of sandbox testing, with content lasting longer than 3 weeks to give time to the teams for any of that to occur.
Itās obvious they wont ever spend the money for that, this game is literally put the least amount of effort into getting the most amount of money from people.
There is no love of the product, there is no dedication to the fan base, there is no actual community-developer relationship to keep things going and in check. You can see these things in other mmo games and see the difference in how things work, how they are fixed, and how the community is involved or at least respected.
What PVP events look like on sever 12ā¦..letās blow up ships that cost 3 billion + to repair for paraā¦ā¦..
If you have the strike force onboard would have been a different story... even st una (cap), st ortega and kang (anti interceptor) would have done way better
š©
But I don't like that Avatar.... Can You offer something else Scopley? š
Sala is not in the list.
Read your event..
I did damage to an Augur
you also need to use a ship listed
augur, ent etc
in below in small text š
Wording has been raised as⦠ambiguous.
You have to buy an augur. š
ok, then the German wording sucks
The English aināt much better.
thats being kind
thx for feedback
that's what some of us say, but you don't get any points. for others there is a different system, he's running around again.
it even says Saladin in English š
What ops?
27
which would be fine, if the description was ok ^^
I'd reboot first, and see if that changed your scoring.
What's wrong with your event?
Different ops segments have different ship selections, that's not unusual.
hab neu gestartet Punkte immer noch auf 0.
Did rebooting help?
What ship did you use and what did you destroy?
restarted points still at 0.
used a kumari was attacked by the north star and once destroyed a kumari.
Kumari vs NS should not score, it's not listed. But the Kumari v Kumari one should have.
But the one with the NS answered that higher players who have a different system also scored points with the NS. the game drives you insaneš
These events look all like at some point they had officer shards and then greed took over and they decided to drop the shards. Complete and utter garbage events and the most horrible month content wise I've experienced so far. Who knows what November holds. Even the event store for spending isoleniar chips was taken away after 24 hours.
Most on our server L50-52 are excluded from this event because they decided to Skip L50 epics and push on to L53's
wonderful design
Grr why didnt you spend $2k for the epics
Now the Saladin is included as a viable ship, but I donāt get any points from my previous Saladin kill? I have to do it again?
š
If you did pvp before the event was updated, then yes.
Though there's a scoring issue atm, maybe wait a few before retrying.
Scopely⦠come on yāall
Expensive garbage
i feel like they listed those ships specifically to get some people to buy the ships
And itās pretty clear that all of these events likely had officer shards as rewards, until you ripped them out
lol
but the epic 4* arent worth how expensive they are
you can ride all the way to 53 with just the rare 4*
yup
Scopley took one of the most anticipated arcs ds9 and crapped on it and us. Way to go Scopley...only you could make ds9 this bad.
which the majority do
this recruit leaderboard is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time
They Lat prize slb is hands down the biggest FU Scopley has ever done.
years of events have trained us to value recruit tokens extremely highly and now you say well if you dump six months worth you get like 5 days of feesha refines
Gotta love how we have to spend an hour every day waiting for the events to be fixed
Does anyone have any reason at all to participate in the recruit SLB event? just one reason
you can recruit an avatar
This month had so much potential, i was excited when i read the release notes, and really like the new bajoran faction and solomadas aspect. Such a pity that the month has been completely ruined by the event lineup and officer sourcing fiasco. At this point I've gone from frustrated and angry to just disappointed and sad.
To use up all the different recruit tokens I've been saving for ages š
at least there are no buggy events š
Bajoran faction seems like it has some good stuff but requires a ph.d to plan for getting anything out of it. Itās a bit too convoluted in terms of what you need to exchange for what as that is used as currency for some other chests
Scopley, the sheer number of armada events is awful. Doublely so without a better way to source directives. We should never have to pay $$$ to complete a sms... (even heroic) it's killing players motivation to spend.
This entire arcs pack value is awful to boot even if I was going to spend. No way to get the new officers without spending, events that should have officer shards have none. The rewards are absolutely lacking. You're just dropping mediocre content on us without ryme or reason.
Wtf is the mantis!? Design wise it's cool. Lore wise I'm not sure what it is besides a one of SNW mention of a mantis class ship? The entire mechanic would have been better suites to a section31 or other espionage related faction/ship. Even the augments...
In summary, do better.
I demand materials spend event!!!
Usually you can buy 2 $99 and 2 $49 packs of the rare officers, now you can only buy 1 of each...Got a useless SLB that gives lat and an avatar...a pvp event that I cannot score in...and that is just today's f ups...why do I keep spending money on this game..any other business that consistently messed up like this I would have took my money elsewhere
There is no elsewhere. There is only Star Trek.
There are other Star Trek games
waves hand... those are not the games you're looking for.
Have we heard if Material auction events are gone for good? It seems weird to end such a huge part of our grinding and saving for the past several years without notice. Lots of us hoard for these events to hopefully unlock officers.
It seems really shortsighted, but I'm sure Scopely will find other ways to mess up the game, lol
Scopely isn't messing the game up. They're monetizing the @#$!$# out of it before everyone quits.
I think the game is circling the drain ver rapidly
Then they'll launch STFC 2.0 - which will be the same game with new graphics.
...and we'll all have to start over at lvl 1.
Will it have that fancy UI from the tv commercials?
It'll have a bonus if you play the VR version that the long time mobile players won't get.
Pvp events with restricted systems suck
Wow. The naughty word filter on discord works better than the filter in game.
š¤£
You know what they are.
Retrieving š¤£
- Retrieve cookies
- Retrieve soda
- Retrieve your wallet
I love the new āretrievingā ticketed events you added scopely. Very helpful.
I, for one... will sign up for them with no description! I did not learn my lesson on the espionage event last week.
1 is a full unlock, pick your door :p
The retrieving must be for the tickets that are also missing at the event start.
Monty Hall effect.
Pick one, then immediately DQ it.
Good job
Good Jon Job.
You need to retrieve a retrieve. Duh.
The pictures kind of tell you what event it is regardless of the retrieving.
Its a trick
#2 is definitely mine gas.
Restart app its showing
Restart App, Clear Localization, Uninstall, Reinstall. It's working now.
This is the funny part as even the pop-up calls it retrieving.
Crystal on mine
/ sarcasm
Is there a Treasury event this Arc?
Guess no reason now for me to worry on getting new epic do to how points where 1 epic and 2 rare could not compete event and u level lock me on solo armadas can't do rare there not on chest if your not high level even though that is what we where told @pseudo rune @sinful sage
Not sure what you guys mean couldn't complete event.
I was able to complete it with 2 rares.
You're probably lower levels in at my level when epic and two rares would not complete the ducat epic sms
Spend yo money weakling.
Ya don't have that kinda cash especially with it being armadas ever event
This entire arc has been such an obvious money grab. LOL
All of the new packs are poor value for the cost.
To get Dukat - you need to buy the pack with the tokens to get a chance of pulling 1 dukat shard in recruits.
Yes it has can't even completely sms events with our it I down grade my Google rating on them if they drop to low Google will remove them from the play store they already dropped in rank just this month
If you read the message it says three and the very bottom there is a 100% pull But you only get a thousand shards of the guaranteed 100% so you have to buy $4,800 worth of packs to get a chance at a guarantee because even the shards are a chance
It was $600 US to guarantee an unlock with even the worst luck. But still, egregiously expensive and people who did it should feel bad.
I feel like Iām missing something. Is there no free path to even one of these crew? No events give shards and the BP track doesnāt give enough. They canāt even earned?
I didn't have any sort of pack except for the one that was $100 that gave you if you pulls in a chance at a thousand shards and you needed 48000 shards So unless you got 48 or multiple luck on the shards it's 4800
Nope
Welcome to the new Scopely MO
So is this PvP only valid if you have Cardassian officers?
No, you can also do them without these officers
No, any crew, just says ship specific, but you can actually use other ships š
No just ship specific
If you have the ships
Who the heck designed this arc? This is easily the most obscene money grab Iāve seen yet.
Ppl are scoring with miners that aren't on the list š¤£
Wha?! š
Don't tell me your shocked š
I actually am
Yeah I attacked a Saladin in a Centurion but got no points?
I was shocked, but because I stuck a fork in the outlet to relieve the pain I feel spending money in this game.
Yet... I still do it.
Over and over again.
Perhaps, I have a problem.
Couple of guys can't reach high systems required for their ops level, so sent in miners and did the event š
It's funny that the recruiting officers event group doesn't offer any recruits.
It's like they forgot to put them in or something.
Itās points FOR recruiting them. I mean buying them.
They didn't forget to put them in let's at least be honest with that
I don't always buy my officers... but when I do... it's these.
Nope. Not a single dollar for this. This is disgusting .
More for me. If I had known there wasn't a F2P for the battleship Strike Team, i would have bought them too.
Just like the forgot to run the Sisko recruit event last arc (sorry they changed their minds 𤣠) and had Khan/Work as the incursion rewards, even though it clearly stated SNW crew
8 pulls per pack, 8,000 drokna or whatever they were called per pack therefore, 48,000/8000= 6
$600!!!! How am I going to explain this to my wife?!?!?!
Find a new wife? š
Probably easier than getting the new officers at least š
Cheaper at least.
Nice never pulled a back seen chance and a chance can mean 0 or 1 in Scopely terms most of the time
It's just not worth it.
It is worth it! Don't you want to be #1 in this digital world?
Nope, lol. You'd only be number one until the next tier of pvp officer comes out next year probably
Given how much money the top guys in my server have spent on this game, GOD NO.
Ya I know a couple on my server will have the new team but that's it
Our server was in play for about 6 months and the top guy - our only 39 at the time had spent over $16k to get tehre.
Eventually they'll price reduce or make it f2p accessible.
Pretty sure a couple on our server have spent enough to buy 3/4 houses in London š®
$16k in six months!!! I was flabbergasted. If I spent $100 a week I feel like I'm being stupid.
It's insane how much money people spend on games, but then again I've seen people spend Ā£20k on a dress to go out on a date so... š
The kicker is... he quit the game at month 7
16K... six months. Month 7, abandoned his account.
Quit, or kicked? Always the possibility they were using stolen CC details šļø
That's why I advocate against rushing. Don't have to be f2p but don't spend you way to running out of stuff to do.
Quit. He said he was stopping.
is there going to be any way to get garak or damar shards without $$? (outside of the ones in the battle pass)
They say yes.
Probably at some point, maybe 2/3 months down the line, could get lucky with the Christmas event store
I suspect it'll be like lorca. Need to buy something in order to start earning shards.
i'm fine with that
Is Lorca really worth it?
The other strike team at least had SLBs that allowed you to get more shards, even if annoying and limited to a very few # of players, there's not a single event on the roster for this month that gives you any shards for them at all
Right now he's probably a very good pvp counter to the Strike Team
Anyone know where I can find Separtist Elites and bosses for ticket?
He was better then gorkon. Not sure if he's worth it anymore with the new crew out.
Bungle, depending on if you can kill 39+ hostiles easily, they aren't worth it at all
Constina
Oh the embaresment
@cosmic sage - I watched the new strike team get roasted by Marcus, Yuki, Harrison.
I can, Im killing L41ās for it at the moment, but cant access dark space yet
@pseudo rune Launch an event store with event SMS please. Dont have anything new run the event from last month
I mean the separatist bosses are lvl 26, so you'll get 4x 130 vs 3.7k for killing 40+, they aren't worth it
yeah the separatist ticketed event is always a head scratcher.. it's basicallt just a flat hostile hunt
as a 39 capped player I just use it to farm broken ship parts in dark space
Ah, I see, š yeah not worth it then.
Thanks for that Jawarrior š
You'd have to kill 7 separatist bosses to get the same points as killing a lvl 40. They just aren't worth killing for events like that, maybe it they had higher level ones, it'd be worth it.
Scopely would be better off calling it a hostile hunt lol
This event is BS - OPS20.
I can score using my Franklin - which at T2/T3 doesn't have the warp range to get to the target system.
I can score with the Kehra (I don't have mine yet)
I can score with 3 ships that I don't even have yet (Disco - ops21, Vahklas - ops22, Kumari - ops24)
I can't score using my NS (primary combat ship)
I can't score using my Jellyfish (secondary combat ship at OPS20)
Or any other G2 Ship....
Well thanks Scopely. I can't even pony up a ship to die in the event and score
Cadet Scotty can help with warp range.
Cadet scotty can't compensate for the warp range required
My T2 Franklin has 15 warp range. Cadet Scotty isn't maxed so that's out
The event shouldn't disregard 2 of the most commonly used combat ships at OPS20
bearing in mind that players are actively advised to avoid the Kehra due to it being 1) shockingly bad and 2) over priced in terms of G3 materials and 3) a sunk cost fallacy.
All events say retrieving even after restarting.
Just complete the event on 156 š
I did in one kill of Weihmann š
he showed up in his Frank A
he's gone to OPS39
Can you get proper Scotty at your level?
you mean TOS Scotty? nope
I mean⦠you shouldnāt have to, but Iām trying to think of a way to get it done anyway š
Ghrush?
I have Ghrush but then my Franklin is literally not dealing a single hull damage before it dies
Attack them, then you get to shoot first š
I have to deal damage to G3 commons to score - it's not exactly feasible in my Franklin that's just me pointing out the single ship they give me the option of scoring with is ridiculous
Doesnāt help that the Frank hits like a wet lettuce.
you're being generous
I mean if someone else could be convinced to bring a Franklin it could be hilariously bad but funny bad
Best bet in this is to find an agreeable friend and fudge it š
And to an extent, I get Scopely not letting the NS score - it's a "survey" after all
not that any OPS18 - 25 player has ever used it for actual mining
I still havenāt used mine for mining at Ops 45 š¤£
Just use it for trolling people
The whole event is poorly thought out garbage
But they could have allowed the Jellyfish that's a very viable pvp ship at OPS19/20
I like it, but itās got some really bad mistakes in it.
Still use mine to this day.
and technically the T2 Franklin I have is a G2 ship still at this level
Franklin is a G2/G3 straddler
like the BB
There shouldnāt need to be any caps on what ship you can use when youāre separating players in brackets
Sure has, those L50's. 51's and 52's that decided wisely to skip L50 epics
If someone at Ops 52 wanted to bring an Augur in and slap a Korinar about, they should be able to.
Indeed
Extra bonus points if they can get an Enterprise A.
Or a Fugly Tribune
*fatty Tribune.
I donāt like fat shaming, largely cos Iām fat, but that ship is a fatty boom boom.
Iād love to be able to use my BB.
I mean this is my f2p experimental acct (completely f2p proving I actually know what I am talking about to the F2P die hards on Rev's discord by crushing the F2P path)
so I'm definitely trying to min/max my output for what I do.
I skipped every ticketed event up until the end of arc store and got myself both the premium ships haha
confused. what does skipping the ticketed events do?
You have more tickets to join the events on end of arc, so you get more end of arc currency to spend
ahhhhhhhhh gotcha
Anyone else mot getting points for pvp ? Yes I am in right system with right ships.
I am not getting points either with the ships that were added to my event
Got points with the original ships, but not the additional ones
Tomao explained it well. Essentially in the G2 phase of this game ticketed events have really bad rewards. You're better waiting for an end of arc store - do all of them then. Use the proceeds to buy the Jellyfish, the Northstar and any remaining Franklin BPs you need. Then buy premium recruits with the rest (more shards than buying ultras and arguably just as if not more important at that point in the game since it can give Chen).
Do we have any solid testing done by players to figure out of gul dukats team is better then SNW strike team?
Yeah I think some screenshots went into somewhere here. Iāve seen about 4 screenshots today. Itās definitely better
Where do you see the screen shots? In this chat or another location?
I have definitely seen them on this discord but I donāt remember where
The new ST crew is pretty ridiculous.
Whatās the deal with the lack of Material spending events? Is it safe to dump materials saved or should we be saving for next month?
It is never safe to do anything
So there's no spend event 3*/4* for this arc? Am I reading this right ?
This sucks it leaves players in a very weird situation. No rss spending for the month so we all stop growth to wait for next month. Or we spend now and get stomped by those who saved next month. I wish scopley would just explain what is going on
Or is that 'subject to change**' again ?
No worries dump now. Because next month they will run double the usual mat spending and double the usual armada events and obviously store will have some big deals because it's gonna be november and they need to push their numbers for this year and last quarter š
The ticketed Alliance event says that you get 100 pts for starting a UC armada. I tried it on a Burial ship, and only got 20. So what the event really seems to be counting is the number of directives spent.
