🌌-galaxy-chat

[kindred briar]

It was when I walked out for air...🧟⌛💀

[weary mango]

dude reading isnt hard 😅 . compare the daily name and current hostile name

[visual nova]

Only green

[opal meadow]

The blue headed thing from the missions

[pine mica]

Anyone else's Orion damage daily not scoring? Killed 10 and apparently dealt 0 damage

[opal meadow]

Cause they're not orions

[lofty snow]

there are no orions

[fringe wind]

And totally unnecessary

[high onyx]

the AI thingy?

[scenic shard]

Got AI from Temu, what do you expect

[opal meadow]

Yeah that

1 sec

[high onyx]

oh right I am on Now and Then Part 1

[kindred briar]

Waiting for 12am so they don't spoil the next episode of academy. It's gonna be Orion's 8minutes

[prisma relic]

will do. didn't have my glasses on me. sorry

[fickle geyser]

By the time catch up orions will probably appear 🤣

[pine lava]

it's now more quantity over quality, the target is to pull as much cash out of the wallets as possible.
The question is, how long will players follow that way, cause many think over spending really much money for a game that is still like a beta and gives you nothing back.

[gray lintel]

Coders next time give liveops a skip to next button, not a reset to start button.

Hurak are day 1 hostile vger
They keep resetting to start as they have no skip to next button.

It probably broke on Sunday with patched Orion scoring for damage task, and just reset to day 1 Monday on next reset

[opal meadow]

That's the chain u need

[gray lintel]

But yeah it's Monday morning vger hurak everyday now

[scenic shard]

All they need to do is sell a ship every month and their hands are in your wallet 😄

[pine mica]

Ah yeah, this again...thought they were too easy to kill. So is it wrong hostile spawning again or wrong daily 🤣

[hot phoenix]

The daily link to the system is still wrong. It points me to the 67 system instead of 69.

[kindred briar]

Since the games down... Orions. Apex shred ignore crit big crit seska below helps for accidental crits

[high onyx]

I am lucky I had a ship gathering ore in Fed space otherwise I wouldn't be able to do my dailies

[kindred briar]

Apex shred is quasi below n s31 Georgiau on bridge

[opal meadow]

EU?

[visual nova]

Like vampires! No spending here anymore. It's like buying a bike without wheels. 😪

[pine lava]

true 🤣

[high onyx]

Thanks for the info

[kindred briar]

They'll be here soon

[opal meadow]

Game isn't down on mine

[scenic shard]

The having to return to your station after every khan champion mission to collect completed award now is also a joke

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-is-coming-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-got-gif-16908557

Except orions

[weary mango]

all good all good

mostly mr overlords over there that dont know what they're doing i think 😅

[kindred briar]

5min the we can see the orions when Caleb's mom makes it to earth

It got quiet I think it's fixed? I'll check

[unique gust]

Not fixed, we just gotten used to this.

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[crimson socket]

On the bright side, I can kill way more Hurak’s per hull, so I’m going to end up first in this SLB

[scenic shard]

https://tenor.com/view/spreadsheet-google-sheet-travolta-confused-travolta-confused-gif-15175973

[timber sail]

In order to save time, should we change the "known issues" tab to "known to be working"? 😂

[gray lintel]

When person who can fix it is fast asleep and lives 3hours from the problem no wonder it took 6hours to fix yesterday.but sure still waiting for compensation for Saturdays outage...so good luck getting anywhere till they've had coffee and had a meeting about it.

[fickle geyser]

Maybe slack is laggy aswell this morning?

[scenic shard]

Theres only so many emergency ratio tokens they can give. Pick a number between 3,000 and 20,000, then subtract logic and end up with potato

[flat knoll]

they need to spin up AI to code a fix

[fickle geyser]

We dont want emergency rations for this massive issue this time. Its not enough

[night frigate]

3k emergency rations is a slap in the face tbh

So is 20k

They've pretty much ruined my love for this game now, it is completely gone, I am only playing still because of the money I have spent over the years

[lofty snow]

too bad there's no tracking if the known-issues have been resolved, I guess it has that simplistic format just so we can't track that 😄

[night frigate]

If I was 72 F2P I would have quit

[scenic shard]

I hear you. 20k officer depot tokens and 20k emergency ratio tokens. And an avatar you already have.

Fairs fair

[night frigate]

Now, I only get BP and that's enough for me

[flat knoll]

just give me 4 Tal shards and im happy 🙂

[night frigate]

We already have 10+ BP a month

And I only get 2/3 of those

[visual nova]

And the fiends i made!

[scenic shard]

Define "tal"

[fickle geyser]

More like a token to unlock or tier an officer of your choice and or a ship of your choice unlocked. Or g5 scrapping for g6 rss

[scenic shard]

More realistic then players in my alliance thinking free 99.99 pack of choice. Silly sausages

[hot phoenix]

The bug where claiming in items in Augment faction store randomly teleports to federation faction store after claim is still there.

[flat knoll]

officer thats impossible to source and missing 4

[summer bone]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vintage-star-trek-xYlpik4aQClbO

where are the mighty orions ...

[scenic shard]

😄 more chance of getting 100x badgey

[wheat oracle]

A choice of one 99 package.
Allowing you to take something useful that you normally could not afford, or wouldn’t choose to spend on.
That would be something I’d consider meaningful.

[fickle geyser]

40k multiphasic credits would be a nice comp

[scenic shard]

It won't happen though

[hot phoenix]

wrong vger hostiles again today.

[scenic shard]

https://tenor.com/view/injustice-2-doctor-fate-disappointment-awaits-disappointment-let-down-gif-14853527040991482799

[weary mango]

ykw at this rate <@&509690795536941056> just tell the overlords that they shld just give us a comp chest everyday till the whole vger thing ends

[scenic shard]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-feedback-waste-gif-23515794

[simple violet]

If I was this bad at my job, I'd get sacked

[fickle geyser]

Unless youre president of america

[gray lintel]

If you can find them in the lower decks depot tokens but badgy ulis in the strike team bucket

[night frigate]

Does anyone know the cost of BPs for 73 ship?

[fickle geyser]

Lots

[weary mango]

obviously u dont work at scopely

[scenic shard]

Tepid, ask non rogue flossy on veil chat

[flat knoll]

71 miner is 5k per 750k so more then that 🙂

[night frigate]

Aphelion is a rare ship

73 is UNC ship

[weary mango]

honestly working at scopely wouldnt be bad

its just the playerbase wont be too happy 🤣

[night frigate]

Because you can do half a job and still keep your job?

[flat knoll]

half? closer to 0%

[weary mango]

u can do nothing and get paid

i would want that

i can even code hello world or smt and get paid 😂

[visual nova]

hit it! No break it!

[toxic kiln]

still no word about missing orions?

[flat knoll]

there will be no word until they wake up in US

[deep cosmos]

<@&509691205798592532> The comp chest for the EU server disruption will be on top of the comp chest that we still haven’t got for the lag issues, right?

[toxic kiln]

or on top of the vger daily events comp

[scenic shard]

They are collating 1 winged pigeons for delivery to all eu players affected...please wait for the next smoke signal message

[placid burrow]

Could you please not let what CNN told you what your opinion is seep into this game please

[fickle geyser]

Im banned from America anyway so 🤷🤣

[visual nova]

Same

[scenic shard]

I mean, its not difficult guys 😄

[fickle geyser]

I dont pass the social media check. They consider me a threat to democracy with my satirical social media page

[weary mango]

bet the comp is together with the recent comp

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/jd-vance-meme-jd-vance-mcartist-maryanne-chisholm-gif-9942861388404063681

[placid burrow]

The good thing about them messing up, is we get something we didnt plan on getting. Theses that i guess

[sonic pasture]

Problem with scoring again?

[fickle geyser]

Cant decide on a run to do. Seeming as we are waiting for orions to spawn finally

Done a gorn run a transogen run an augment run. Bored waiting tbh

[visual nova]

Don't know what your hoping for! Got to be worthless 😪

[lethal path]

so, no v'ger orion hostiles, but, also no xindi armada event

[fickle geyser]

Xindi events in like 9 hours

[visual nova]

Then hundreds of players wanna do a rare armada where there are only 3

[fickle geyser]

I just do solo g6 for that

[gilded sonnet]

Amazing company really. Remember there was this funny galactic rush XALB idk how many days ago? Alliances from our server which is g5 locked got matched with g6 alliances from much older servers so it was mathematically impossible to win with 6 ops51+ players vs. fully stacked rosters of endgame players. Asked support if this blatantly unfair matchmaking is intended or not. They escalated it and just got back on it today after 84 years saying "yes. That's absolutely intended". Disgusting practice, honestly. They can't even keep spenders happy which is pretty pathetic. 🫠

Besides that, please finally fix those god damn v'ger daily events. <@&509690795536941056> 🙄 we literally just had that issue yesterday

[kindred echo]

lol no Orion’s spawning, but giving the points for killing the easy ones 😂😂

[vague gull]

Guessing their hail mary for fixing yesterdays not spawning was to turn it off and on again

[cedar eagle]

Still didnt work

[round vortex]

IT crowd, love it

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-tos-spock-winging-it-fail-gif-16777860

[round vortex]

Not getting points at all for Vger hostiles.

[lofty snow]

1. look at the hostile type and challenge and notice the problem, 2) look at #🛠-known-issues , 3) read other people above reporting the same problem

not that hard

[fickle geyser]

Because they arent orions? Welcome to the mob. Get your pitchfork ready

[opal turret]

How hard to change the hostiles to orion to score on dailies? Its like 2 click right?

[lofty snow]

probably matter of running some scripts, but it looks like the whole liveops team went on a vacation about a week ago

[raven escarp]

You can just kill hurak, they are the orion brothers

[opal turret]

In the US they have nightime so probably they sleeping

[knotty flume]

But they're all fast asleep right now 😉 🤫 😴 😋

[vague gull]

Yeah I imagine they don't have any technical people on call because they would never get any sleep

[opal turret]

They sleeping since arc started 😂

[fickle geyser]

Nighttime devs must be asleep

[opal turret]

OH wait you are my server mate lol

[vague gull]

You would never get away with this level of incompetence in any other industry

[fickle geyser]

Politics 👀

[vague gull]

Touche

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[raven escarp]

Don't be so stressed about it, its just a game. There are several occasions where people fail to deliver. its a part of life.

[fickle geyser]

My wife agrees with you

[visual nova]

No they don't deliver. It a complete failure! Lots of content isn't working how it's supposed to be. So occasionally is constantly

[raven escarp]

Its been a road downwards last 3 years. I agree. Still you can choose if you play or not.

[subtle vortex]

So wrong hostiles AGAIN in vger space the incompetence is on another level this arc. EU trying to do dailies before work yet again cant 2 weeks of lag and scoring delays and now the hostiles arent there..

[fickle geyser]

Yas qween. Preach 😍

[ashen walrus]

England cricket has entered the chat

[brittle ledge]

The Boss said focus on compensation stuff, forget about anything else & don't forget to purchase your raffle tickets for prizes at the Company Valentine Ball

[fickle geyser]

There's a ball joke there somewhere

Yey

[queen jolt]

Orions are back?

[fickle geyser]

Nope. Old ss 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/meme-lolol-lol-trollface-rage-gif-17191190

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/good-movies-rule-gmr-avengers-end-game-movie-don't-give-me-hope-hawkeye-gif-9699367132154830787

[delicate thunder]

Vger hostiles Wrong again @unborn urchin, what are you doing?

[fickle geyser]

Couldn't resist 🙊

[delicate thunder]

@queen jolt will anything be fixed ? Ever ?

[mortal elk]

At what point do GD go 'okay, this was a mistake' and just add extra systems so you have one hostile type per system consistently, rather than semi consistently wrong? 😄

Or am I expecting too much of GD admitting anything is a mistake? 👀

[jade narwhal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/climate-crisis-greta-thunberg-un-action-summit-U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK

[lament heath]

oh no orions today? anyone managed to make them appear somehow?

[bronze jasper]

<@&509690795536941056> vger hostiles are still on the wrong spawn, 62 system faea
Still missing compensation for 7 days of issues
Still missing my refund on directives, all I’m told is “we are currently investigating an issue” but if you don’t even say there’s a problem with armadas don’t try running, how are we meant to know?
The golden shield applied a 20h instead of 10. No problem, so you realise your mistake and reduce it without warning - overnight in the eu. “Just let us know if you got raided”… what the actual..? Just keep the 20h on, say there’s problems and you’re working on it and you get a day to work on the problem.

But given last night was a bust, and events are wrong today, what’s the point? Or are you going to just tell me I’m missing a prime? 🤷‍♂️

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-gif-14429440838821613662

[ashen briar]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpsterfire-flooding-fail-gif-9420889858387127994

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588

[sharp trellis]

@queen jolt still no Orions in vger systems... I know many on EU , talking giving up , 2 weeks of not being able to do anything many only have limited time to play ..

[warm topaz]

This is the same playbook used by certain political forces (I won't risk naming names). Get the public to move on from one atrocity by simply committing another.

We can't be mad at the rip off store if we're mad about lag, and we'll forget that too if we're mad about not being able to log in, or do dailies. Just keep moving to the next blunder, never apologise, never compensate.

[vague gull]

Should get AI to show them kissing for the Valentines day special

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/riot-south-park-chaos-chainsaw-protest-gif-20878334

[vestal otter]

😅 🤣

[ashen briar]

$copely chainsaw massacre? 😂

[fickle geyser]

For sure

[subtle vortex]

Scopely would sell pitchforks that break when used

[fickle geyser]

Call it the lag pack

[ashen briar]

In bundles…😂

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-amelia-shepherd-today-no-no-were-not-there-yet-not-there-yet-gif-25285103

[summer raven]

where are the Vger orion ???

[vocal rock]

They always fix mission text. The important stuff!

[twilit escarp]

<@&509690795536941056>

Good morning,

I think the development team has mixed something up again!

[lofty snow]

sigh .... #🛠-known-issues message

[fickle geyser]

sigh .... #🛠-known-issues message someone should just announce this 🤣

[oak isle]

Least you are doing something productive during your time off 😂

[summer raven]

its so embarrassing for a big company scopely failing so hard

[fickle geyser]

Trolling? Aye 🤣 physio later so may as well troll the rafters 🤣

[oak isle]

Oh trolling, I thought you looked in the mirror for that 😈

[warm topaz]

Hurak V'ger are still scoring for the 10 kills. Hurak are easy and Orions are hard, so therefore this is a player beneficial bug so why aren't we in emergency maintenance now? 😂😂😂

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/little-trolling-roblox-slap-battle-slap-battle-gif-16781065764619410226

[summer raven]

https://tenor.com/view/carla-delaney-voice-actor-actor-actress-embarrassed-gif-12842947729802052102

[oak isle]

Shush don’t let them know 🤐

[queen jolt]

are we still getting issues that can't login or was booted out of the game?

[fickle geyser]

I can get in fine but get kicked out to reset when i come to discord. Hope that helps. (Not a troll)

[full light]

I have not seen no more of it and only had it happen a couple of times to me.

[oak isle]

You can take the game down now till reset. I’ve done the Cota heroic 😘

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[weary plank]

any update on the orion hostiles being changed? I've seen it was raised earlier

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-the-dude-jeff-bridges-relaxing-relax-gif-10226125293567372237

[weary plank]

that's a no then lol

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-i-mean-gif-15916247

[visual nova]

@queen jolt <@&509690795536941056>
Please let us have a break with new content and let us do what we want. Or extend the Borg, Cadassian, Discovery, NX that content works as intended. So your team can fix all problems and please take your time don't rush it! Beter a day longer and no problems than a quick fix!

[full light]

LOL! and they still will screw iot up.

[twilit escarp]

Good morning,

Logging in worked without any problems... I've been online for about two hours without a single kick...

But let's be honest... why bother logging in and playing if nothing ever works?

For Scopley to be a multi-million dollar company, the updates, fixes, and other bug fixes are simply laughable...

If we worked like the development team, we'd all be out of a job...

[inner aurora]

Who thought that this dev team could add a fourth hostile type into an established schedule without a mistake? Not this player. They probably think the week has 8 days

[full light]

Samne thing with Fortnite and the division dev teams always screwing up something

[fickle geyser]

Bajoran time maybe. 26 hours a day?

https://tenor.com/view/fat-albert-is-it-working-does-it-work-gif-15091829

[slow mica]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-guerrero-im-right-here-homes-wwe-smack-down-wrestling-gif-12522379

@queen jolt

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ares-god-of-war-xwp-hercules-the-legendary-journeys-kevin-tod-smith-gif-27217669

[slow mica]

https://tenor.com/view/meganleigh-megan-leigh-it's-little-small-gif-9505164187835791073

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said-dirty-joke-joke-laugh-gif-15661968

[devout cairn]

#🛠-known-issues message 5 hours in.. Any update on VGER Orion's? <@&509690795536941056>

[fickle geyser]

Tbh i think there will be a better ethos overall if we can just get an update

[slow mica]

Nope 👎 event still broken

[gleaming hollow]

you spelt multi billion wrong (LOL yes that makes it worse)

[merry tree]

I stopped playing 6 months ago due to the broken game....Nice to see almost nothing had changed in those months

[visual nova]

We are die hard! Fantastic

[weary plank]

thanks @queen jolt

[fickle geyser]

Thank you @queen jolt

[queen jolt]

No, thank you

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-least-i-could-do-trying-to-help-helpful-lucifer-morningstar-tom-ellis-gif-16845910

[frigid vine]

You are at least 3 Comp chests behind...

[rough flower]

I hope i wont see the Vger orion ever again... because of the bug i could do the Heroic mission xD

[queen jolt]

Hold my coffee

[visual nova]

Can you do more???🙏

[peak sedge]

Four if you include the mantis chest from two years ago

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-coffee-hale-caesar-terry-crews-the-expendables-2-coffee-break-gif-7658851198378235280

[frigid vine]

That's not all fun and games... That was a serious statement

[young parrot]

"We're monitoring the impact"..😮...the impact is i can't complete the event..tools

[twilit escarp]

I'm really curious about the compensation again... I hope you've been diligently taking notes that everything hasn't been working since Tuesday last week...

[lament heath]

i'd like the option to get orion skin for my serene. best looking stuff ever

[tranquil tinsel]

Pretty sure EU servers are still waiting on the compo from last weeks lag issues. Or has that been conveniently forgotten about??

[jaunty flame]

Looks like another week where we get the points in a giftbox to unlock the challenge track because like this it's impossible

[merry tree]

so you're not even getting the cmops now? cripes, time to mute this badboy again i think

[woeful compass]

issue are not over

lol

[waxen geyser]

Seems like they have swept it under the rug

[fickle geyser]

The compensation is lagging

[lament heath]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-monalisa-money-please-give-me-money-gif-14465971

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dive-into-money-money-bin-ducktales-scrooge-mcduck-gif-1520915004553762854

[peak sedge]

No point in giving us a comp yet if they're still waiting to see what else breaks 🤔

[twilit escarp]

Well, it never really stopped... something new always comes up that doesn't work...

And yes, they constantly talk about how sorry they are and that we'll get compensation... but we see very little to no evidence of it.

[sterile parcel]

The EU lag is still horrible and at times unplayable

[split quarry]

Meh just shut EU down, move them all onto American servers and watch the world burn 🤣

[grand sail]

Seems pretty clear that we aren’t going to get comp chests now. Some of the events will have finished that couldn’t be completed at the time anyway. We’ll get a small handout based on whatever the last issue was. I would just prefer it if they said that there won’t be compensation chests rather say there will be and then not give them out. Just makes everyone more annoyed

[heavy idol]

If you're monitoring impact this long, it better be a very serious compensation. A couple of rations simply won't do this time. Even a free treasury I'd find too little too late frankly.

For me, scopely have one more chance to make this right before I delete the game for good and avoid anything their company touches

[split quarry]

A free treasury?

[civic geyser]

Just switch the servers off and call it a day

[split quarry]

Happy to report with the exception of the V’ger hostiles being wrong - apac flowing along nicely today 😅

[supple belfry]

@queen jolt

[queen jolt]

thank you

[dawn sable]

<@&509690795536941056> can we not low ball the compensation, unable to log in, extreme lag and severe event/daily scoring delay. Many missed challenge track and avofall/scotty research events. Needs to pay those at a minimum +extra.

[supple belfry]

Morning everyone 😃🖖☕☕☕☕

[kindred echo]

The compensation needs to be now at this point a treasury level and a battlepass. There’s been far too much to brush us off with a few shards and rations

[rough flower]

And dont fix orion to get back! 😛

[young parrot]

Compensation will probably be 99/100 of something...by the way, the store is that way 👉 for the other 1.

[supple belfry]

Got a question: recently I heard that there's a hidden option in augment faction shop, hidden as in for some players not displayed. Is this correct and if what requirements have to be met?

[fickle geyser]

Probably

[supple belfry]

Hidden option for an extra dock

[static mica]

@queen jolt <@&509690795536941056> Killed the 10 Hirak ’s (that should have been Orion) but not a single point in Orion recon (damage)????

[woeful compass]

arena's

[lament heath]

i had that, was that hidden? 👀

[woeful compass]

amd other stuff

[supple belfry]

I can't find any

[north torrent]

Of course not, because its not orions!

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-lower-decks-lds-mariner-beckett-dvana-tendi-gif-23188276

[lament heath]

i think it was specifically dock G, if you had that no option. H was not available

[static mica]

True but the 10 hostiles I killed were also not Orions and they counted

[fickle geyser]

It was for dock g yes.

[sharp egret]

Why this is happening? Is this lag or I did something strange?

[supple belfry]

Yes I read that players who had bought dock g already wouldn't get another or see another but I haven't. Just wanted to ask first hand before finding out its similar to the super highways where you need to reach certain levels

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-working-now-ash-brawl-stars-did-it-work-is-it-fixed-is-it-functioning-gif-22141121

[lament heath]

i got that early, i was below 60 for sure. didnt even had relaint. it was a great pirating effort 😄

[supple belfry]

@queen jolt any idea? Or more coffee first? ☕☕☕☕☕☕

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tendi-lower-decks-drums-star-trek-gif-18608680

[young parrot]

Imagine how embarrassed you'd be telling people who you work for...

[sharp egret]

I got it. We have wrong hostiles on 157 in lvl 65 system

that is why it didnt score

[fickle geyser]

@queen jolt if we get you some coffee will it help get us some orions quicker? 🙊

[supple belfry]

Hurray 🤣 it's not you only and not that system only 👍

[fickle geyser]

Tell me you dont read announcements without telling me you dont read announcements 🙊

[terse meadow]

Appropriate compensation is coming...🙈

[lofty snow]

nope since he's just a messenger

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/bcs-better-call-saul-troll-trolling-splidgy-gif-23785799

[devout cairn]

@queen jolt Thank you for acknowledging the VGER Orion's issue. While it doesn't fix our issue we feel validated.

[lofty snow]

we do?

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ding-validation-complete-validate-ex-on-the-beach-mtv-gif-11781331

[granite elbow]

(Server 199) Another V'ger issue day ?

[fickle geyser]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[leaden meadow]

Are you combining the 6 days of scoring issues, login issues, lag issues in general, repeated wrong vger hostiles, terrible vger spawn rate and half of the issues I'm forgetting about in 1 big comp chest <@&509690795536941056> ?
Been waiting for quite a while and the issues rack up

[oak isle]

@fickle geyser are you trying to get a community manager job 😂

[fickle geyser]

God no. I troll too much

[leaden meadow]

Do you like posting gifs?
Then this is the job for you!

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-dale-doback-step-brothers-yes-i-agree-gif-1579811350903017250

[visual nova]

Waiting for weeks for any compensation

[oak isle]

One would say they do… with all these lags and scoring issues and utter incompetence… your perfect you are an angel you are basically linda evangelista

[lone coral]

Good News Commanders. Compensation is considered a „reward“ at scopely 🤓

[fickle geyser]

Im no angel. 🤣🤣

[oak isle]

That’s what she said

[leaden meadow]

"We've rolled out the comp chest for recent issues, please claim your 2k emergency rations in the gifts section" is what I'm expecting

[subtle vortex]

I question how difficult it is to flick a switch to get the correct hostiles in the VGER systems getting ridiculous now

[oak isle]

Oh no…. We need more than that

[oak isle]

Probably the same difficulty it is for @fickle geyser too make me laugh 🤭

[leaden meadow]

Oh I know, but I just said what I expected them to give

[warm topaz]

It'll be 2000 rations, 10 Excelsior BPs and 20 new officer shards

[visual nova]

I'm expecting 🦀 that i don't need

[subtle vortex]

thats not really good enough people havent been able to complete dailies/events or loyalty tokens

[warm topaz]

It won't matter, we'll keep logging in. Or we don't log in/boycott the store, in which case it'll be called unprofitable and canned.

[timber sail]

I mean at this stage the compensation chest is gonna need a compensation chest 😂

[fickle geyser]

Compensation chest has the major lag so it needs a compensation chest for lag

[jolly hull]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-first-contact-gif-11598551

[supple belfry]

1500 efr, 15 iss jellyfish BP and another 20 khan 20 mara shards

[timber sail]

We had a complete server meltdown on Friday last week - could not complete dailies, events (like arena SMS), V'ger challenge track etc. Why wait so long to pump out a compensation for that?

[fickle geyser]

Its still going on?

[timber sail]

So much other stuff has happened since then, no size of compensation will satisfy anyone

The strategy of delay works for no one

[warm topaz]

Compensation is paid out after the problems are fixed

[visual nova]

Next year

[warm topaz]

Certainly a year, next is optimistic

[timber sail]

I think we all know at this stage there are only short breaks between major bugs/issues, so "waiting until the problems are fixed" is no longer a reasonable strategy

[granite snow]

Compensation needs yo be separate and big.
1 - lag
2 - wrong daily ships
3 - log in issues

[leaden meadow]

I'll take that outpost FC slot and a full sisko unlock, thank you 😉

[timber sail]

plus a treasury!

[leaden meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/granted-jean-luc-picard-star-trek-the-next-generation-accepted-gif-23575168

[timber sail]

plus outpost and challenge currency!

[fickle geyser]

Ill take complete rss for an ops up 🤚

[deft lance]

https://tenor.com/view/get-mad-q-star-trek-star-trek-the-next-generation-angry-look-gif-23455382

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-mariachi-picard-party-mexico-gif-19473569

[deft lance]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-tng-q-eat-any-good-books-lately-read-a-book-wrong-answer-gif-5146206111734629291

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-simpson-eating-paper-eating-page-book-gif-18132062

[deft lance]

https://tenor.com/view/qtng-star-trek-the-next-generation-entirely-irrelevant-irrelevant-gif-17282456

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-ds9-sisko-deep-space9-q-star-trek-gif-20340152

[leaden meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/scopley-gif-2943756650533236924

[granite snow]

I'd like a massive sigma titanium chest please - the 40 u get from the emergency rations is disgusting 😅

[weary plank]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-episode-8-xUPJPop2o56Sv8p8TS

[latent saffron]

Wrong hostile AGAIN ?! Are you serious ?

[delicate sentinel]

sigh I cannot kill or do damage to Orion hostiles when you present Hauk or what ever the heck the name is

[mortal elk]

https://giphy.com/gifs/airplane-i-am-serious-surely-you-cant-be-3oEjHLzm4BCF8zfPy0

[subtle vortex]

o brilliant now my dailies have stopped scoring on top of everything else.....

[ashen briar]

What's there to 'investigate'? It has to be corrected ASAP 🙄

Actually it already should've been corrected hours ago.

[timber sail]

get those hostiles fixed jeeeez!

[wheat oracle]

<@&509690795536941056>
A friendly suggestion…
Since this is the second time we have the wrong hostiles, and are unable to complete challenge, how’s about mitigating the downside of this happening again by removing the ship type restriction on scoring for the /100 challenge, every day?
At least until you are 100% sure that the correct hostiles are spawning in the correct way on the correct day?
Since this happening once did not result in them being checked properly for every day of the week, this measure would at least mean you aren’t needing to frantically comp and correct for ppl’s progression..
Pass on to devs?
🙏

[pearl tundra]

So, all this was tested. As we've been told that if it wasn't tested it wouldn't be released. Are the test servers REALLY that much different from the production ones that everything works fine in test? Really?

[umbral willow]

This is getting out of hand

[rustic trail]

They can fix hostiles but they can’t fix scopely 🤦⚰️🪦

[ashen briar]

Who knows what/how/if they are testing…

[fair sentinel]

The only thing 'properly' tested is the store of course

[fickle geyser]

Ehhh

[rough flower]

Noooo.. Orion are back...

[tiny ivy]

They’re testing our patience 👀

[ashen briar]

Considering that ever since the very release of this game not one single maintenance has been executed without a problem their claimed 'things are getting tested' is highly questionable.

[fickle geyser]

They're up

Not trolling this time

[subtle vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/trolls-gif-18817256

[rough flower]

Stupid Orion Enemys.. i hoped they would never come back

[fickle geyser]

This time im serious @queen jolt they're up cheers

[subtle vortex]

I know 😉

wow they reduced the milestone for the damage by alot. one kill finishes it 🤣 talk about going from one extreme to another

[fickle geyser]

I decided to try a 68 to see if im ready to light the fire on ops and it completed it. Nice

[oak isle]

@fickle geyser thank you for your trolling it seems to have worked

[fickle geyser]

Trolling gets the wheels moving

[oak isle]

#makeJTcommunitymanager

[fickle geyser]

Please dont

[subtle vortex]

<@&509690795536941056> why have you made the Augment champions (Kahn Champions) missions so you have to recall the ship every time to claim the mission complete? it ridiculous

[oak isle]

Ask @fickle geyser

[bronze heron]

For those actions, i use a different ship to bounce out and back into port. Triggers the "recall" step and you can leave your main ship out wherever. Works for all missions.

[fickle geyser]

Its because its part of the mission. Hope that helps

[unkempt sundial]

So they took a system that was working fine and made a pointless change that only serves to make it more annoying...awesome

[ivory bay]

So, with the lag, and the lag before the lag, and the login issues, and the login issues before the login issues, and the wrong hostiles spawning for the daily… that compensation chest will have to be quite massive <@&509690795536941056>.

And by massive, I mean „a lot more than 3k field rations, 2 epic officer shards and a pat on the back“

[unkempt sundial]

glad this was given priority over fixing battle logs for station hits that have been broken for 6 months

[grave bay]

<@&509690795536941056> May we expect the 2 compos after this reset?

[tiny ivy]

hurak are back lol

[visual nova]

My scoring ends at a different alliance

[buoyant bronze]

they will add a full set of Realta BP's

[visual robin]

LOL hurak are back

[shrewd hemlock]

yep gorn spawned for one round now back to hurak... <@&509690795536941056>

[dull mason]

Game is completely

USELESS.💯

Fake Disconnections

[viscid yew]

Is it too complex for Scope to add the fourth spawn to the rotation? It was kinda working without the Orions...

No one will be sad, if you remove those sh#tty Orions

[shrewd hemlock]

probably because a lot of folk seem to have been attempting to do another Khan's champion of the same level without collecting the previous win....this resulted in the task disappearing.

[subtle vortex]

dont punish everyone else for peoples stupidity

[bronze jasper]

<@&509690795536941056> 6h on, hostiles still wrong. Challenge track impossible.

This is ridiculous

[ivory bay]

Dont jinx it 🙈😂

[little canopy]

challenge track this week is already impossible through lag and down time 😅

[uneven mural]

Why is my isolytic damage no registering in the Vger challenges?

[dull mason]

Star trek: unresponsive Command

[little canopy]

because you shoot huraks not orions 😅

[hot phoenix]

still wrong hostiles.

[uneven mural]

They havent changed them?

[silent igloo]

Was orions for 1h now back to Hurak...

[long elm]

wow

[uneven mural]

I guess I should have known Scopely couldnt even do something as simple as that.

[hot phoenix]

there seems to be some scheduled task that is just resetting them back to the wrong hostile.

[karmic estuary]

Bug after bug ..I pulled 49 artifact shards ..never received them ..

[tiny mica]

This ist Not Orion where the Orion histile for daylies

[little canopy]

orions are at lunch

[silent igloo]

Best bug so far... what is next Entering sytem with Ent E and after battle it changed into a vengeance? I would not mind that 😂🤣😂🤣

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-onions-fake-spongebob-squidward-gif-7888417

[robust lotus]

"Regarding compensation, we’re monitoring the impact and reviewing the appropriate rewards." ...at least set the challenges done for the messed up days would be appropriate.

[silent igloo]

Indeed!

[subtle vortex]

do you know the best part! that has never happened to me before and now they have changed it to having to recall to finish the mission its happened and the mission is unclaimable!

[fallow sorrel]

repair the recalled ship

it should be the same one used in the khan's champ mission

[subtle vortex]

[frozen sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ez-fail-smash-gamedadtv-fail-failure-gif-17602612

[fallow sorrel]

not a single content creator is talking about it since most of the whales have finished the augment loop and it doesnt affect them anymore

[shrewd hemlock]

now that is hilarious in a really bad way

[tiny mica]

Pls we dont need useless compensation pls fix your Game now!!!!!!!!

[light rock]

<@&509690795536941056> back to Hurak hostiles rather than Orion

[subtle vortex]

whats worse is Funky's fix worked (thanks Funky) repairing the ship actually brought the mission back

[subtle vortex]

lets take something that took seconds and make it 10 times longer add a 30 second delay and then make it so you need to repair the ship

[fallow sorrel]

it's one of the worst Quality of Life downgrade for new players

[warm topaz]

Remember when there was a Sarris invasion event and there were no Fatu Kray hostiles spawning, and after a few hours they just said "nope, sorry, can't do it. Event cancelled".

[subtle vortex]

I thought the adding of the 30 second delay was bad but this takes the biscuit

[tiny mica]

That hutak Not count

Pls fix now

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ford-escort-özkürt-az-yakiyor-escort-gif-5231543493235206469

Ford Orion

[fallow sorrel]

posted a while back asking the CMs #🌌-galaxy-chat message and Dev's but all i got was 🤔 response from one of them.

[rough delta]

Logging in today and still issues??

[civic geyser]

That was annoying it gave me 99 points

[rough delta]

What are they even doing?

[opal meadow]

Same as they always do.

[rough delta]

Fixing and causing more issues

[subtle vortex]

bad for players they will completely ignore it until no one mentions it again

[rough delta]

This has been Milt days of issues?

Multiple times

Them something about a competition chest and still have problems

Makes no sense

[lapis marten]

Surely the better option is just to keep the new mission claim hidden in the faction store until the previous mission chain has been completed. This change just makes it really convoluted

[loud chasm]

The incompetence is absolutely baffling. If you cant make systems with rotating hostile spawns than just scrap the whole loop

[subtle vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/ozge-gurel-ezgi-inal-bay-yanlis-dizi-flashlight-gif-18549116

[mortal canyon]

This in corporate talk means, they haven't fixed all the bugs yet and therefore waiting until that happens to release one comp instead of two or three

[crimson lintel]

Oooffff

[rough delta]

Multiple days of issues have prob give you something useless

Figures

Kinda getting to the point ☝️ you can only deal with so much for one game

Almost unplayable

[crimson lintel]

The expectation is ST: DS9 and the delivery is ST: TMP

[halcyon arrow]

Lost track now - how many comp chests are due? 3? 4? Or will it be like the comp chest for the Field Training debacle and just never mentioned again?

[hidden ruin]

5 min speed up is on its way to you rigjt now

[dull mason]

Refining

Takes 10x times as long, the Faction claim's take Age's,

The amount of disconnects, while trying to do basic Dailles suck 🤦🏼‍♂️👎

[kindred echo]

Still no Orion’s spawning

[fickle geyser]

At this point it may be easier to make the daily damage against vger as a whole 🙊

[crimson lintel]

Waiting for the “Left handed screwdriver and tin of striped paint” daily

[harsh meteor]

Scopely need to take a leaf out of the Ronseal adverts! Because this dont do anywhere near what it says on the tin.

[frozen sedge]

@heady moon this is how its starting to feel 😅😅😅

[kindred echo]

Instead they give us A Long Weight…. Get it 😬 I’ll get my coat

[subtle vortex]

you know things are bad in game when this discord is this busy on a non-maintenance day 🤣

[dull mason]

Retrying / Retrieving

Should be changed to 👉🏼 # Retreating

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-tv-gif-13655175

[wise star]

Gotta ask, at what point does everyone simply down tools here and move on to other far better, cheaper games??

I’m ops 71 and it’s got so ridiculously bad I’m not sure I see any point carrying on here??

Anyone wiser than me got any thoughts on this?

[severe marsh]

Found 1 single orion interceptor then no more?

was just killing huraks for points and that one spawned

[opal meadow]

Heading that way now. Just trying to get back in an old one or find something new. Done with anything scopely related

[fading portal]

ok what is going on orions have been removed and the hurak is in play

[opal meadow]

Ops 70 and over it

[dull mason]

Just don't do that event

[half hornet]

anyone has any idea where extra 20 Q Bells could come from (20 or close) ? It was not from milestone, not from daily 80 bells box. I just received and have no idea what from

[main dove]

What is going on with this game this week, multiple log in issues, lag off the charts and now Orion's not spawning for dailies as Huraks are in the systems instead. Time to turn it off and on again Scopely?

[subtle vortex]

exborg forbidden tech claim has a 20 option

[undone delta]

There is the "Forbidden Tech" chest in Ex-Borg Faction Store

[bronze jasper]

New Star Trek game out in 7 days, single player, no scopely, voyager survival story.

Think that’s my deadline for resolution tbf

[leaden meadow]

Social experiment, they want to see how angry/annoyed they can get us while buying packs

[river orchid]

New ST game doesn't impress me

at all

[bronze jasper]

NEITHER DOES THIS

[river orchid]

The community here impresses me, the new game is not built around something like that

[fading portal]

well they can suck it as i am not buying a pack ... broke atm ...lol

[river orchid]

The community is why we all deal with the BS that is Scopely

[soft canyon]

Tried to do the Orion Daily today, but all that’s in the Vger systems are Hurak. What gives

[opal meadow]

I'm not and still not buying anything

[fading portal]

they just changed it in the last 15 or so min

[heady marten]

EU 139 back 2 hurak hostiles?!

[opal meadow]

Everyone is

Lasted maybe 10-20 minutes apparently

[hidden ruin]

They coded this game on a post it note

[fringe wind]

Still no Vger fix? Howay man

[hidden ruin]

Coming to a prime near you

[subtle vortex]

was Wednesday Hurak before this arc? (I cant remember) I bet they used the previous arcs base code for this update so it has reverted the hostiles to the 'original' for this day and thats why its not working? version consistency 🤣

[fringe wind]

Wednesdays were the impossible Silents originally lol

[little canopy]

they always have version problems

[hidden ruin]

They also have vision problems

[subtle vortex]

thanks haha, so no excuse there then

[fringe wind]

Next month they’ll introduce ‘hourlies’ to really notch it up

[hidden ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/home-office-busy-working-from-home-simpsons-typing-gif-19960965

[pearl tundra]

So 2.5 hours since they announced they knew about the issue. If only it was player affecting to improve / reward players, those bugs get fixed within 5 minutes of them being known about. Seems the ones that have a negative effect take a little longer. Wonder why that is!

[scarlet hare]

Ok what going on with voyager dailys ...I need orion got hurak hostiles in the systems🤷‍♀️

[terse yoke]

What's up, Scopely? Coffee break? We're waiting!

[hidden ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-no-gif-5173989

[fickle geyser]

Is it time for another troll moment @oak isle 👀

So glad I found an orion to hit 😍

[crude orbit]

I couldn't even get my dailies done yesterday with the maintenance and then all the login issues. 😖

[warm hedge]

hopefully they sorted out the bugs etc... the demo was hard work to play

[fickle geyser]

Wheeeee🙊

[keen wraith]

how did i kill histules without doing damage??

[fickle geyser]

#🌌-galaxy-chat message

[muted tartan]

Orion’s no longer spawning EU162. They appeared earlier for about 30 mins but now just hurok hostiles

[subtle vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[fickle geyser]

🙊

[novel otter]

Excluding the CMs here (who really are being hung out to dry by their Scopely colleagues), are there any other Scopely employees able to walk and chew gum at the same time?

[spare galleon]

Just to check - the compensation for the issues over the last 24 hours). I assume that will be different to the compensation due to European servers for the extreme lag last week? So two sets of compensation for European players, right? Right? 🫠

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/we-should-be-getting-compensated-eric-cartman-south-park-s13e5-fish-sticks-gif-23033564

[subtle vortex]

we will get 4k 'we are sorry tokens' instead of 2k 🤣 on a serious note, it needs to be pretty significant as it has meant many couldnt even do dailies let alone all the new events and challenges

[warm hedge]

to be fair the connectivity issues were due to AWS issues and not really scopely....but everything else is definitely all on them

[viral idol]

Good morning, new to the game and it seams when i go to claim any chests i hit done and it locks up the game, can't get out of that screen. Any ideas?

[warm hedge]

quit while you're are ahead, find a better game

[main dove]

This is such a mess Scopely, what is going on?

[warm hedge]

it's what is known as "foreshadowing"

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/elite-dangerous-welcome-gif-22549299

[flat knoll]

results if u use to much AI code

[weary mango]

hm vger hasnt been fixed yet 🤔

[bright girder]

Scopley, maybe it is time to call defeat on the idea of changing hostiles in the systems and the changing events. It is not working and causing way too many problems.

[muted tartan]

Scopely gonna put the blame on Skynet then 🤔🧐

[weary mango]

if youre new you should learn from our mistakes and play smt btr 😂

[ashen briar]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-in-the-big-blue-house-look-at-this-mess-mess-messy-bear-gif-26985407

[weary mango]

but where else are they gonna get money other than from the vger pass

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tami-roman-gif-23309990

[grand patio]

Orion's! We want Orion's <@&509690795536941056>

[white shuttle]

No orions in vger space 108 <@&509690795536941056>

[lofty snow]

you're late to the party

[sharp pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-friends-tv-friendstv-tvfriends-tv-friends-gif-16319093951378648207

[covert granite]

I love Vger Huraks.... but if it says Orions.... why are there no Orions... and the Challenge track?? I'd like it to reflect the points

[viscid yew]

<@&509690795536941056> Can you at least complete my V'Ger dailies, if you are not able to spawn the correct hostiles?

[hazy juniper]

💯

[little canopy]

better onions spawn then orions 😂

[lofty snow]

you know the answer .... they could, but won't

[covert granite]

I felt that in my soul

[weary mango]

cant believe their fix lasted less than 12 hrs, i expected a day tbh 😂

[sharp pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/skynet-virus-terminator-skynet-is-the-virus-rise-of-the-machines-gif-25142739

[stone steeple]

We will be lucky to get 1 par scopely seem to be focused on destroying their own game lately

[covert granite]

I thought they already did that... it is just damage control now

[shadow island]

Delete game and find something else to play

[stone steeple]

Ive had better lucky fighting sky net lol

[covert granite]

🤣 🤣

[gilded basalt]

Have the Overlords decided what compchest we are worthy for yet asking for a friend of a friend of another friend

[flat knoll]

none as this is new normal

[placid burrow]

Correct, its just old normal

[jaunty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/weve-seen-this-before-five-aidan-gallagher-the-umbrella-academy-this-isnt-new-gif-26245904

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-standing-earth-happy-earth-day-gif-11693175

[shadow island]

https://tenor.com/view/its-groundhog-day-again-reporting-news-bill-murray-groundhog-day-gif-10873928

[jaunty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/again-gif-25657102

[buoyant scarab]

Orions are back in Fiavoli. On 131.

[hidden mango]

Waking up to see if Orions are spawning…

[jaunty holly]

No onions, go back eep

[bronze jasper]

For the love of roddenberry… Orion’s now spawned but there’s 30-60 sec lag on every attack.

FML can’t anything go right <@&509690795536941056>

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-be-back-schwarzenegger-arnold-άρνολντσβαρτσενέγκερ-terminator-gif-18273719

[burnt briar]

I feel like the cat

[flat knoll]

i see they didnt fix nothing on orion 1 hull 1 ship

[rigid orchid]

<@&509690795536941056> orions spawning again on 125 but the lag is appalling

[fickle geyser]

Yey

[exotic lodge]

What we didn't know is that by "Quality of life improvements", Scopely simply meant they are going to introduce so many bugs into this game that people will uninstall it and go on living their lives with more quality.

[gilded basalt]

What is a good crew for OPs 68 Orion

[fickle geyser]

Leslie moreou chang

[exotic lodge]

I am using Marcus(C)/Harrison/S31 Georgie, but only level 62 so....

[fast carbon]

Wel thats 4hrs without any feedback to when its going to fixed. Outstanding communication by scopely once again 👏

[jaunty holly]

I could use some good quality in my life.

[flat knoll]

its fixed on 172

[fringe wind]

Can we stop using the word ‘lag’ they prefer ‘scoring delay’

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/lag-cat-walking-not-moving-forward-gif-15348457

[jaunty holly]

And its not rewording, its "bug fixes"

[fast carbon]

Still not fixed on 136

[twilit lintel]

it's backkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[jaunty holly]

No one asked for Onions.

Onions can go right back in the trash where they spawned from.

I perfer WoK augment hostiles over whatever this power creep Jack is.

And Agg hostiles. Those were a better design.

And thats not saying much.

[slow isle]

eugh, the game is starting to get extremely laggy again..., engage the long shields 🙈

[jaunty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-stop-it-leland-townsend-evil-n-is-for-night-terrors-you-will-never-stop-it-its-unstoppable-gif-22157497

[slow isle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-lock-up-the-darkness-zoom-gif-20382432

[lapis marten]

If other crews don’t work then try this. Suder on the bridge is useful for extending the battle against the orions. If you can force a battle to go to 100 rounds with him and Leslie on board you can use neelix below to burn them to death. My neelix is maxed so it’s guaranteed burning, it will depend on his tier. I had to drop my quantum slipstream to make it work though. One per hull

[rough flower]

Still brocken this orions

[jaunty holly]

How to stop the lag.

#1 hold new arcs. Adding bloat to the game is creating more lag.

#2 true sunset of old arcs. And i mean true sunset, they need to be removed from the game. Adding to IA wasnt fixing the issue. It added more bloat to the bloat.

#3 remove the 1,000,000 extra items we have in our inventory.

That should be a good start. Once those are figured out, it should allow for the game to become stable and allow new arcs to continue

[twilit lintel]

sadly ur talking to a brick wall

[dull mason]

So
No Scopley updates 🤔

[jaunty holly]

I know, but when the game dies officially we can all point and laugh.

[slow isle]

They could even do it in a "Meta" arc way and have a new TMP Scotty officer or so who fixes stuff ingame and the game itself 🙈

[twilit lintel]

when the game dies they will just focus on monopoly go lol

[warm hedge]

don't think we'll have too long to wait....we are pretty close to maintenence mode already

[jaunty holly]

Until they bloat that into non existence

[twilit lintel]

still have star trek online lol

[dull mason]

You will then dream of your abandoned station, and you will think about/ Miss mining and grinding

[jaunty holly]

Only thing im gonna miss is my alliance mates.

[dull mason]

Hope folks will have the chance to get All ship's back to the base, Swap to the strongest ship's and take screenshots, to post here

[coral notch]

Are the elite solo waves working for you guys?

[jaunty holly]

Is anything currently working?

Oh wait, webstore is

[coral notch]

Credit cards?

[jaunty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/houseoflies-gif-2418741096461445037

[slow isle]

at least yesterday they worked for me, right before the massive lag/forced log out started

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/making-it-rain-gif-617522917670078816

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-and-the-dollar-gif-9237182071435431778

think about all the cash yall spent on this game

now think of all that cash could have gone for something you want right now

[warm hedge]

it's sickening

[dull mason]

AI

[north torrent]

Wasn't the update supposed to make the Orion easier to shoot after too many complaints?

It seems to be the exact opposite – with all other settings the same, I'm now barely managing half of them compared to last Sunday.

Does anything ever actually work properly???

[fickle geyser]

Yep. The store

[neat obsidian]

they just worked on the orion quests not the enemy, if im right.

[grave quarry]

the change was to make them easier to score against meaning less damage dealt per point

[dull mason]

Elvis Presley said it absolutely right https://genius.com/Elvis-presley-its-over-lyrics

[twilit lintel]

i tried killinn those orions i keep dying

[warm hedge]

yeh I just use Leslie crew

1 kill 1 hull

[north torrent]

which is not the case either

[twilit lintel]

many repairs

som much time

[fickle geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/one-shot-one-kill-target-aim-shoot-gif-15237171

[sonic jetty]

🖖

[twilit lintel]

who u use with that

[warm hedge]

Pike and Moreau

[north torrent]

Scopely obviously wants to end the game and wants to bully as many players as possible out of the game through frustration beforehand...

[pine lava]

I have a simple question: What is wrong with you guys from Scopely? Before your "nerved" Orion V'Ger, i was able to kill at least one 71 each run and now i instantly die with the same setup and crew?

[twilit lintel]

one kill one hull is right lol

good thing i got discovery next door

one kill one hull setup for orion ships lol

[neat obsidian]

I know why i did my orion quest done by killin hurak this morning xD

[twilit lintel]

lucky

[civic geyser]

I think 67 upwards is the pain point , so I’ve got some wiggle room to ops up

[fickle geyser]

67 is painful aye

[lapis marten]

Have you added tech that wasn’t on your ship before? I had that problem earlier and i realised it was because I’d left my slipstream on, barely scratched the first one 🙈 taking that off had a massive impact on the end result. Surprised I even managed that as I unseated fc khan and Sloan. Been upgrading so Janeway and Spock are seated 😅

[twilit lintel]

yeah i dont see us getting this done with orion ships here

[fickle geyser]

Big ship little system

[pine lava]

all is, like it was before the "nerve", but take a look here and find the error. Little hint, take a look at the ship bottom far left 🤪 I had to repair, costs nearly 4k Sigma trit...

[sharp trellis]

Just got back on EU , still very laggy , but why have they reset orions back to the old level , can't even dent these , ...

[pine lava]

they changed nothing, that's the answer

[twilit lintel]

👆🏿

scopley made them harder not more easy

[red stag]

Did the event with the hurak as the Orion’s don’t count

Also easier to do

[twilit lintel]

gnna try this

[pine lava]

try this, ship will die, Leslie keeps you alive and it's a win

[lapis marten]

That’s the bridge crew I used on the 69s and it works well.

To be honest, I haven’t noticed any change to the difficulty of the hostiles themselves, getting similar results to last time. It was changes I’ve made that impacted me today like tech and fleet commanders

[burnt briar]

take bt out add temp conduit and use seska take out hemmner and use pic hugh take out paris and change for neelix dezoc change out for wok carol or joachim

[weary mango]

whats the below?

[civic geyser]

What are you trying to do event or daily

[whole robin]

So did they fix the broken silent apex barrier daily?? Guess we will find out tonight

[weary mango]

and did u unslot the crit fcs

[burnt briar]

use the below deck i said and ull get more

[weary mango]

u dont want to crit against orions as much as possible so borg hugh is a bad choice for lower decks

[lethal heart]

Regarding compensation, we’re monitoring the impact and reviewing the appropriate rewards.

aka we're stalling and hoping this just blows over without us giving you squat, yet again

[ocean snow]

Not bad at all

[weary mango]

i couldnt kill 70s with that

[ocean snow]

Punching up is always good, I'm ops 61

[weary mango]

welp ill take off lorca and kirk and see from there

[civic geyser]

Try a 67

[ocean snow]

From what I here, 68s & higher are a nightmare!

[weary mango]

the upper g6 going into g7 is annoying

i find everything lower than 67/68 is pretty easy if u didnt rush cough ben cough

[cyan marlin]

I think they made the 70s+ Vengeance required, all this waste of resource for minuscule return is part of the plan 😛

[lapis marten]

Yeah they are, it’s a ship dead zone since you need shipyard 70 to upgrade the cube from its ops 66 lock and get an epic ship to the required tier. Can’t get a vengeance either but these hostiles feel like they’re designed around those types of ships

[weary mango]

70+? think u can still cheese them with the g6 epic cube

[solemn plaza]

If youre up to par with everything a maxed Rela can do the 71s

[fallow sorrel]

easily

[opal saffron]

It's fixed now

[weary mango]

dont have maxed rela yet

[twilit lintel]

no epic j

[weary mango]

think im just missing the maxed borg hugh

[civic geyser]

Ben might beat you too it

[weary mango]

i mean if hes gonna spend for it then

[twilit lintel]

2 kills 2 hulls

better than one

[late pawn]

Looks like I'll just continue to cheese crew. Don't want to spend forever figuring out why I die.

[fickle sonnet]

Because you crit and dont kill em fast enough. Your crits guts your shield mitigation and apex barrier

[late pawn]

Cool story, don't care. I don't have hours to figure out the right crew for every situation. So I'll go with what works.

[twilit lintel]

FINALLY

[fickle sonnet]

Now at least you know why you die 😛

[placid zinc]

really sick of vger's being a whole other job on top of the stfc job

[gleaming hollow]

Surely you'd be better off with Moreau, as all Pikes officer ability is doing is boosting XP, Moreau would at least offer mitigation?

[lost narwhal]

Okay for whatever reason, leslie moreau change crew does not work for me at all on 70s. anyone have a suggestion, and no I dont have a veng

[lost narwhal]

What is your below deck crew \ FT CT on the rela to kill 71s

[placid zinc]

leslie moreau suder, wok JOK and neelix below, make 10 trips

[lost narwhal]

didnt work for me

[placid zinc]

and you're using cube?

[silver parcel]

are your voyager crew maxed out?

specifically neelix

and the cheese crew is leslie moreau suder

you need suder to extend the fight

[placid zinc]

watch him listen to you

[marble shoal]

Is anyone else still having issues logging in?

I got in this morning, then got kicked and now can't get back in

[half hornet]

I think they made a movie about Picard captain and Riker 1st officer in 90s

[placid zinc]

pay your rent

[lost narwhal]

@silver parcel

Voyager crew maxed

threw zeph underneath to get apex barrier, didnt help (removed Kim)

[marble shoal]

Seriously is anyone else still getting kicked out

[silver parcel]

carol doesn't help, shield shred drops her after a couple shots

[lost narwhal]

@silver parcel Who would you put there instead of Carol then

[silver parcel]

chapel

what ft/ct, and did you deseat kirk.lorca,khan

[lost narwhal]

@silver parcel Godsend \ S31 Torpedo Pods , I still had Kirk but I had removed Lorca and Khan, I will remove kirk and try again

[silver parcel]

if you got sloan seated, swap his crit to armadas

[lost narwhal]

@silver parcel didnt work sadly

Sloan already on armada crits yes

[silver parcel]

how many rounds is it going

[lost narwhal]

9 rounds with chapel below

6 rounds without her

[twilit lintel]

2 kills 2 hulls

[lost narwhal]

so progress is made

[silver parcel]

drop chapel and put tendi, looks like your hull is too low

[lost narwhal]

okay let me try that, thank you for your help by the way

[silver parcel]

can also mantis sting yourself

park ship on a mining node, next to someone else mining, target them, then your ship

and it will let you sting

[warm pivot]

i never figured out how to sting yourself, but people always say its possible xD

[placid zinc]

it's just sad tho that these are the lengths people need to go through for a mobile game

[lost narwhal]

Yeah I have no issue with any of the other hostiles, its just the orions that wipe me out. I cannot figure out why, especially when I see others doing it "easily"

oof.. 8 rounds, still no luck

[kindred echo]

Ridiculous the hoops to jump thru for these orion hostiles, instead of addressing the players actual complaints with these.

[gleaming hollow]

What is your research like, especially the various Hull repair ones in the various locations?

[lost narwhal]

research is farily well done , with exception of primes of course, I have SOME primes just not all, cant afford that nonsense

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-more-packs-kermit-evil-kermit-gif-15508516

[gleaming hollow]

Primes are niether here nor there for Orions, its all about Hull repair and damage output

[lost narwhal]

Honestly I suspect its my syndicate level is too low, I did neglect that for a while

[tiny ivy]

have you tried chang instead of moreau?

[lost narwhal]

@tiny ivy yes, change gets even fewer rounds

[tiny ivy]

and you had full crits?

[gleaming hollow]

With the correct researches, all FTP, you can achieve 95% of damage taken hull regen per round

[lost narwhal]

I am going to try my Rela, its maxed, has an extra BD slot, maybe that will make a difference

[abstract wasp]

OMG. I was so devastated not being able to log in... I had to spend time with my teenager weirdos. lol

[tiny ivy]

it's just about tanking the damage and repairing more than you take. Not sure rela will be much help if your cube is t16

[tiny ivy]

is your premium MU research for hull repair max?

[vagrant vapor]

No known issues for a few hours now. Wow!

[obtuse gate]

32

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-days-since-last-accident-accident-days-since-days-from-gif-13572167

[lost narwhal]

@tiny ivy hull repair 3/5 .. again FTP for most part here

[obtuse gate]

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[flat lantern]

I sure hope they gift us the dmg points for Orion vgers.. I don't want to have to run back and do those

[tiny ivy]

yeah that has nothing to do with f2p😅 But that's probably the main issue. Have you tried full leslie?

[lost narwhal]

what is full leslie @tiny ivy

[flat lantern]

Leslie pike Moreau

[lost narwhal]

why pike?

pike on side is just ship xp

more synergy i suppose...

[tiny ivy]

for more hull repair from synergy

[flat lantern]

Synergy for Leslie.... He's what you want

[lost narwhal]

I will try again. give me a moment

[tiny ivy]

also use wok carol. I know she's not ideal but she can help tank the initial damage

[lost narwhal]

threw her BD, threw pike on, warping over.. I suspect no bueno as the extra 5% synergy wont bridge the gap, but we will see

nope

down to 3 rounds with pike

going the wrong direction here

[lyric haven]

Self sting strategy has some potential

[lost narwhal]

@lyric haven who do you have BD and what FT\CT?

[lyric haven]

Was last week. Think it was the 3 states, wCarol PicHugh wBones Joachim. Probes and Chrono

[weary mango]

bro said some potential and only took like 1/8 hull dmg 💀

[tiny ivy]

yeah ok then i'm out of ideas that don't involve taking out FCs. I'd try the leslie moreau suder crew and take out FC lorca, khan and kirk. Switch sloane to non hostile crit chance

[lost narwhal]

done all of that

[silver parcel]

issue is his ship doesn't have enough hull to survive

is pic hugh max?

[tiny ivy]

nah repair is the issue, MU isn't max, hugh looks like t3/4

[pliant vapor]

I still think Ghrush is the key 🤣

[lost narwhal]

Yeah one more level to max hugh

[silver parcel]

still need a high enough hull to cheese it

[tiny ivy]

66s aren't a challenge 😅

[obtuse gate]

NOT?!

[tiny ivy]

you said you tried leslie chang suder, right?

[pliant vapor]

Can't reach higher 🙁

[tiny ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[lost narwhal]

yes , chang didnt work either

[tiny ivy]

chang or suder and chang?

[tiny ivy]

you're 61, get someone to taxi you

[lost narwhal]

leslie sudar chang, tried and failed

[silver parcel]

you got this favor maxed?

[lost narwhal]

all ex borg favors maxed -

[dull mason]

I'm so enjoying the game problems and Lag 🤦🏼‍♂️

[tiny ivy]

what ft/ct are you using?

[lost narwhal]

Godsend and control seeker probes for rela

[tiny ivy]

i mean on cube

[lost narwhal]

s31 torpedos for cube (with godsend)

[tiny ivy]

not much to tweak there either 🫠

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/giving-tissue-paper-box-crymore-gif-23993569

The game code is as thin as

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/stingy-dont-wanna-share-mickey-mouse-piece-of-the-pie-donald-duck-gif-15479558

[dull mason]

You should see how thin uk bread 🍞 can get,,
I prefer thick or extra -thick slice

[twilit lintel]

great for sandwiches

or this

[frail crown]

I love the smell of OPC in the morning!

made even sweeter when its your enemies and its token....lol

[steep laurel]

I love that in this game opc hunt is totally needles.

[frail crown]

why mine it when you can steal it?

[dull mason]

It looks expensive

[hardy seal]

HAICG in this bush

[dull mason]

Yeah takes far too much time

[steep laurel]

Because hunting takes active time. While sending ship to mine is way less effort.

[frail crown]

some people are worth the effort...lol

[twilit lintel]

so keep giving advise to ben

[dull mason]

Yeah expensive compared to uk

[twilit lintel]

4 bucks is nothing

i seen bread up to 6 bucks

if ur into that organic stuff

[placid zinc]

subway was forced to change its bread recipe in ireland because their bread didn't count as bread

[twilit lintel]

suibway is nasty

never eat the tuna

thats why i like firehouse subs

https://tenor.com/view/firehouse-subs-sub-roast-beef-sandwich-sandwich-subs-gif-25189470

https://tenor.com/view/firehouse-subs-subs-sub-sandwich-commercial-firehouse-gif-25188908

[dull mason]

@twilit lintel

[twilit lintel]

nice

[dull mason]

I've only been once

[twilit lintel]

or jimmy johns

[dull mason]

Don't have that one in the uk

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-johns-italian-night-club-sandwich-sandwich-sub-fast-food-gif-11630179559168600614

man that looks so good

[twilit lintel]

we ate popeys last night tho

[dull mason]

I watch a lot of abandoned places videos on YouTube

[placid zinc]

popeye's is so good but it really does change... everything.. orange

[twilit lintel]

huh

just orange?

[weary mango]

seems like when u swap fcs u need to reload the game for the abilities to take effect. 🤔

didnt happen last time

[dull mason]

Everything is
Broken
I have to reload every time I do a QT , or ask it to locate the Hostiles 😡
Resetting node's is a big problem

**

Okay Scopley
Time I walked away from the game for a few hours 🤦🏼‍♂️👎🏼
Hopefully a fix will arrive
with a Bonus Compensation Crate

[placid zinc]

question: i've seen people flying around epic transogen with an nsea for 30 seconds before dying, but the second i enter a system i blow up

[steep laurel]

You hunting?

[dull mason]

Same thing happens with
New augment system's 👎🏼
Absolutely horrible

[spring mason]

That expensive, oh I paid 2.60€ today for 500 grams of black bread lol

[minor furnace]

I don't remember the last time I bought bread

gotta be at least... 4 years

All the additional rubbish in the stores makes you save a lot of money on food

[spring mason]

lol

[placid zinc]

we do sourdough. haven't needed bread for years

[dull mason]

Buy British

[spring mason]

I bought it from the „Bäcker”🤣

[placid zinc]

and trade sourdough for eggs

[minor furnace]

I just go to the meat and dairy departments. Get my stuff for the week and I am happy. 50-70 bucks a week on average

Maybe splurge once every month or so and get a whole ribeye and cut it up for the week with eggs

[flat lantern]

Hazard is on a 20 second loop... You have a max of 20 seconds that's it

[placid zinc]

i get maybe 2 seconds at best

event reset lag started early today

[steep laurel]

Exploding on 2 sec means you entered that 20 sec loop in the 18th sec.

[placid zinc]

you telling me there's some sort of server lag...? preposterous

[burnt briar]

why thats unheard of

the shame

[steep laurel]

Not at all. Where do you see I'm saying that.

[burnt briar]

scandal

dispatch the usurper

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-marauder-doom-slayer-gif-26202133

[fringe cradle]

Scopely never acknowledge the server lag. They only acknowledged the "Delayed Scoring"

[heady moon]

#⭐-official-announcements message

[covert reef]

Great to see the EU server lag is fixed…..not!

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/not-gif-4797021

[heady moon]

What are you seeing? Scoring lag again?

[fringe cradle]

Thanks Hammy. I stand corrected. They did acknowledge it 4 days ago 😆

[warm pivot]

if i`m allowed to remind yall...
#🌌-galaxy-chat message
100% truth xD

[strong hamlet]

so lag issue fixed so comp chest coming soon?

[steep laurel]

10 standard recruit token for you

[heady moon]

Hope to have an update about the comp later today.

[strong hamlet]

its been over a week

[steep laurel]

20 standard recruit token. Last offer.

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-not-allowed-tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-that's-unacceptable-you-can't-do-that-gif-3684130729400581841

[strong hamlet]

better than 0. deal 🤝

[burnt briar]

no orions are spawning on 95

@heady moon

[warm pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/warriors-curry-salty-salt-bae-pouring-salt-in-your-wound-gif-17933286

[sinful vault]

@queen jolt

[placid zinc]

he can't

[burnt briar]

Why is this message blocked lol

@heady moon

[pastel ibex]

game still so laggy

[fringe cradle]

what is the chances of a Full unlock of the USS excelsior as a compensation gift?

[silver parcel]

You have a better chance of the lag going away

[placid zinc]

agreed

[maiden cave]

I cant even get events to load because of the lag LOL, I keep trying to take the reward for placing in the SLB and it wont even take that its so laggy

I mean to be fair Arsenic, they used to release full unlocks of ships with launch arcs - lag has always been here.. so who knows LOL

[heady moon]

Server?

[whole robin]

@heady moon event schedule still not updated, scrolling all the way to the left after every pull in claims section still not fixed (alliance chests, away teams store most notably), and where is our comp chest??

https://tenor.com/view/pitchfork-joel-mchale-let's-go-gif-4823800437700507777

[hollow mason]

Getting ready to the bugging of the screen is so so annoying when doing pulls

[half hornet]

any pro knows trivia answers ?

[whole robin]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-reading-fly-flying-pilot-gif-8771762

[heady moon]

Are you getting an error message?

[whole robin]

Gotta keep reminding them about the most annoying bugs if we are annoyed so should they be

[heady moon]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-annoyed-evelyn-lozada-basketball-wives-i-am-irritated-vh1-gif-7707252956071289657

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-human-fly-float-human-airplane-meme-gif-5277954545468410794

[hollow mason]

I meant beginning. Like in my faction store I keep getting sent to the top after opening something or to the left in the refinery Instead of remember where it's at

[burnt briar]

yea i hate that

[placid zinc]

they fixed that yesterday, update game

[hollow mason]

That's honestly probably the most annoying bug right now

[hollow mason]

Most definitely did not.

[burnt briar]

nah it still does it

[quasi ember]

scopely didnt come up with 5 questions for the BP event low ops. they just made the same question what was archers dogs name for all of them. shows their committment to the game.

[placid zinc]

they fixed mine at least then. i'm burning the bridge behind me

[shadow island]

<@&509690795536941056> So are under 50 ever going to get any AS events?

[hollow mason]

That's crazy

[hot token]

or broke whatever it's attached to

[twilit lintel]

valentines day is coming up

[hollow mason]

valentines day events used to be good 🙁

[twilit lintel]

ik now we pray toevent get good events anymore

[half hornet]

what isn't ?

[twilit lintel]

scoley cash flow

[covert reef]

Lag opening chests, lag loading contents screens, lag switching between systems….you name it, it’s laggy.

[fringe cradle]

anybody found a way to fix a stuck ship that doesn't want to dock? Relogging does not help.

[twilit lintel]

ticket?

[ripe badger]

Have someone destroy it for you. Then it will come home.

[twilit lintel]

have one of ur allies attack it

[hollow mason]

Is the lag lagging the lag?

Sorry that was a bit lagged

[covert reef]

Can’t tell, the lag is causing me to miss the laggy lag bits.

[hollow mason]

Damn lag

[twilit lintel]

the lag has a lag of its own lag that has another lag each lag will continue to multiply by 2

[buoyant jacinth]

I've heard that the Treasury it will unlock for free ,as a compensation chest

This is true?

[fringe cradle]

that also doesn't work... they can't see the ship and trying to attack a ship says "Ship cannot set a course in it's current state"

[twilit lintel]

if this is true it bwill be the first thing wscopley has ever had free that was 99.99

my guess is nur get month tokens and challege tokesn

[buoyant jacinth]

In my sweet dreams,right?

[fringe cradle]

i'll leave it until tomorrow and see if it is still stuck... if it is i'll just open a ticket. it's not one of my main ships so it's not serious

[covert reef]

But, at least after the update the lag is working as intended, unlike everything else.

[twilit lintel]

maybe scopley could surprise ya

like this lag

[hollow mason]

The office is lagging

[twilit lintel]

friday till now\

[twilit lintel]

its a front lol

when u starting to get all happy with the game ......... BOOM MAJOR LAG

start hitting hostiles from across the system

[half hornet]

give me trivia answers NOW 👊 (🫣 😆 )

[twilit lintel]

the office has hamsters running the servers

[mystic ivy]

what do you hope for 😮 Still waiting for the last compensation for last weeks lags and scoring issues

[twilit lintel]

did u look in #💫-event-information

[warm pivot]

no tie breaker... @terse jackal

[twilit lintel]

so that is 2 comp chest lol

[normal elm]

be smart, turn your lag into lagger 🍻

[twilit lintel]

yeah lets all get drunk

and go to the beach

play some volleyball

[normal elm]

deal

[twilit lintel]

or stand uopside down on your hands in the water i love doing that and walking on my hands

[heady moon]

What kind of lag? Opening chests? Switching screens?

[hollow mason]

Im not actually having lag k was just joking around with that guy mate

[normal elm]

i dont have any lag, but let me open the game and check in there

[twilit lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-servers-gif-10507027

[warm pivot]

motivational lag, looking at an event and trying to overcome the urge to close the game and finish it instead 🤣

[hollow mason]

@covert reef is though might wanna ask him

[hollow mason]

That's hammy by Friday lmfao

[twilit lintel]

scopley servers running so fast it crates lag lol

or just stop adding arc on arcs

[twilit lintel]

just give him some tacos he will be alright lol

[hollow mason]

In fairness the AWS outtage probably didn't help.

[twilit lintel]

not those cheap tacos for 1 dollar

[drifting wedge]

Heute: trivia fragen 4 und 5 sind ident, aber 4 zählt. Nicht einmal sowas bekommt ihr hin …

[hollow mason]

Cheap tacos are the best tacos

[heady moon]

You still seeing lag?

[steep laurel]

2 times login issue, 3-4 times of scoring lag, 1 time fully unplayable lag.

[twilit lintel]

true

[hollow mason]

😂😂😂

[twilit lintel]

those cheap tacos are the ones that send you to the hospital for food poisoning

[hollow mason]

Yeah but if the taco tasted good it's worth it

[twilit lintel]

ones where they dont wash their hands when making the taco

[hollow mason]

Did the beef taste good?

Stop avoiding the real hard hitting questions here