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What's going on with the xindi aquatics? My nx-01 was killing 5 battleships the other day, now I can't kill 1
check the logs, you prob got hit with the go-home gun
Why are there ghost armadas everywhere?
Yeah I checked the logs, I did get hit, I have maxed out the xindi particle beam delay. As I said, the other day I killed 5 battleships everytime I went in, now I'm wasting tokens and getting washed out quickTime
Probability
you can have mine, dont want ore n crystal chest 🤢
Treasury gone here as well
Treasury gone server 42
It was there, then it was gone! Like magic!
Gone on S43 as well, lol
Particle Beam Delay has nothing to do with the Aquatic Battleships, they have a 30% chance to nuke you first round no matter what
Once you get to about t7 on your NX, you can kill the lvl 40 Battleships before the gun even has a chance to fire
this treasury is 💩 even worse than the last one
What treasury
Is it that much different then what we usually run? 1st Treasury is officers, second is always ship parts.
oh I'm new I didn't know that... but at 3* ship parts are basically useless
should maybe change to something else for people below 40
Gotcha. And welcome!
I get at 41+ ship parts can be valuable but below 40 they're just half a latinum basically
Well about all treasurys just went missing 😄
at least my whole alliance is suddenly complaining and mines gone aswell
Yup. Mine is missing too.
no love for Andy? 😦
Andy...
I understand why you would ask this, but I'm sure the amounts will be the same.
Where has the event gone
Ohhh compo chests hopefully a free treasury key @heady moon
Will our points still count I’ve set my ships to auto grind in aug space
Good question...
If incursion goes well, can we expect alliance tourney in near future?
Tricked into 2 hours worth of rep grind to unlock treasury and it vanished 😅
When it comes back will progress be set back to 0? 🥕
we'll have to wait and see
have a feeling it will
Maybe it all depends on your attitude! Did you ever think about that?
Optimism causes grey hairs.
More rep still needed lol
so i see the treasury is gone
My hair is going pretty gray lately...
there is a PRIME for that
it's not gone it's just hiding
Please don't give the team ideas...
why, it will be just as effective as Rogain
i love your non answer
did you come to SCOPELY for answers? LIKE REALLY?
you got alot to learn about this game my friend
i was hoping for once
hope is for things that MIGHT happen, like promotions, miracles, jesus revealing himself... not Scopely helping
I just read on the exborg favours that the particle beam delay is for the xindi reptilians......my bad.
Tier 7........wowsa, mines tier 2. I must have had a lucky break with the previous runs
Yeah, that's the whole thing with the battleships, they drop the Rare Choice Opportunity Chips so they don't want people to just be able to straight up farm them easily.
Some days you get a dozen in a row, others it's nothing but Go Home Guns
@heady moon is 153 supposed to have incursions when we are merging on the 28th?
Yup. You'll be merged then going up against S137.
Interesting, I thought mergers normally got a bye
Yeah... think there was discussion about that, but we decided to go for it. Think there'd be strong feelings regardless if we ran them on merged servers or not. You think you should have a bye week?
Hey everyone
Fresh merges should get a bye week, they used to
Can anyone direct me to the incursion area to see who is against whom?
Dunno, not been through a merger before but it is hard to see how we will be able to compete as a server
Thanks yall
I have learned this lesson the hard way, the understanding the easy way. I will stop being greedy and hit the interceptors until I'm big enough to take on the battleships 😎
pike harrison e data and just forget the yeet cannon exists
Do Pike/Picard work on Toli officer ability?
Toli ability shows in log so I'm assuming Pike/Picard work, just wanted to make sure.
Treasury is back 0/700
@heady moon server 112 is having its first ever merger on the 30th and yet we are listed for incursion straight after!??! Where is our bye week?
Announcement is coming
I'm guessing it's to say that everyone's treasury is auto-completed? Mine just did. 😂
@heady moon my Treasury started the 3 day countdown to open but i didnt do the 700 kills. I need the BP overflow to finish to open Treasury
not everyone
embrace the gray, makes it easier to dye it fun colors
In fairness to Scopely the loops are built to be a struggle to encourage the packs
treasury was 20$ again and to many people baught it befor everyone had a chance to buy it
they took it down to fix it again
So everything is designed to be a bit of a struggle 😂
LOL
thats what they say bout us
Greetings fellow Discords. Can someone please help me in finding out how i can get my player ID to match up with the game in installed on my laptop? I have tryed various ways but it seems to be keeping me at beginners stage?
Yeah mine came back at hundo.
u have to play the biggeners then log into you orgianl id
..yall are payin for treasury packs?
Not this one, not good enough
yeah gotta play that long 10 min game tutorial
takes a little longer till ops 40, tutorial stretched this far ^^
tbh i belive when it starts i think u can shut down and log back in and it want make you do the tutorial
I don’t like you.
treasury just reappeared but only 3d left now wasn't it almost 7d
not that I'm unlocking this 💩
i mean till you can play the game without it pointing at stuff and you click
so they reset the scores of the treasury pack also
mine's completed still
¯_(ツ)_/¯
but went to 2d 23h left instead of 6d and change
OOOOHHHOOHHHHHHH UNINSTALLLLL
Completed is 3 day timer anyway
im already hearing some people have 700/700 where some poeple have been set to 0/700 like me
go kill something to complete it
oh
"And now due to (insert 11,000 issues and missed compensation that was promised...) We are giving 2000 Desealing Rods!"
@heady moon I think this is treasury thing is a bad idea. Players who need the desealing rods from the overflow event are gonna be mad, cuz this means they can't play at all or risk starting the short timer.
Short timer is long enough that they’ll have had 6 hours at this point to do the last event.
We aren't on last event for BP.
Anyone that has an issue at that point is being awkward because they choose to
maybe one day i will open it
Last event for BP starts in 2d18
You should still be able to finish the overflow BP the same day as the treasury expires.
It absolutely wasn't last month. I had to decide between playing or not for a few days last month. I ended up buying it, but it's a very real issue.
Treasury expires in 2d23
It is this month
@heady moon this 100 percent… was just playing and was timing out completion of battlepass overflow to coincide with the need for the desealing rods for the treasury… now I don’t know if I am going to be able to get it…
do that many people go for the ship part treasury over the officer shard treasury?
think i've only grabbed it once, and it was a freebie
Last month's was exactly what I needed for upgrades, since it had extra gas in it, so it depends on needs.
@heady moon
Hey look! They tried to do the right thing again and messed it up bad…..again.
I swear to god my treasury had gas in it and now? Nothing .
The scopely way...
Can someone confirm the ops 60 treasury had/didnt have gas?
That is correct... It is a battleship treasury
why does the event store never have regular event store parts like intersepter, explorer , battleship or survey parts
would be nice
well that's good, kill the one hostile, treasury goes unavailable
I need the gas so 🤷 glad I don't have the keys
i mean, i wasn't buying it and free month was last month, but still
can we have crystal gas and ore in real life I want 3d models of everything in the game 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥹🥹🥹
This means as compensation they're going to have to give everybody a free Treasury LOL
<@&509690795536941056> its not fair that some were able to buy Treasury key just for 20$, it should be available to all
There's different levels to the treasury. It all depends on your level of spend if you don't spend it all in the game you get the $20 one
Anyone else didn't have today's "Unstable Discovery" event counted towards the meta event?
You can only buy anyone pack for $20 once... Their treasury was garbage if it was $20
They don't get the same as the $99 treasury
So if you spend money in the game then it automatically gets bumped to the $100 one it's just above a certain threshold of pay
once you spend once...
I don't think so
That is all it take for scopely to start expecting benjamins..
I see it for 99.99 what it was this morning
I think it's like above like three or $400
This also depends on how many times you've unlocked said Treasury
I think the first one that you unlock is $20 but then it increases from that the next time
Nope... Just like when you buy the $20 resource pack.. It instantly goes up to $99 next month with the trash $50 available as well
so they broke the treasury now what else are they going to break 😱😭
In my opinion, this hey should just make this treasury free to all
No, theres too much stuff of value to give away as comp.... can we haggle it down to just the rare parts as comp that would be lovely...😎😏
the way they worded it I thought they changed it from the treasury into an EVENT (because that's the word they used) and that "does not include any desealing rods" meant you wouldn't need them, glad to see that instead they've made it impossible to get the overflow broken rods before it disappears
So why did you guys mess with everyone with the treasury? The previous treasury would have ended in 6 days, giving players enough time to complete the BP overflow and get that last needed partial resealing rod so they can open the treasury. Now with this new timeline of 3 days, some players that won’t be able to complete the overflow in that timeline are screwed over? Can you please add that additional couple days ?
🤔
My issue exactly I timed it to get the last 80 rods after overflow pays out the 360 so I didn’t want my treasury to be filled at least until tomorrow and now it will expire before getting the 80 rods needed to claim!
I hear ya. I was excited to open my first chest but that isnt happening now.
I sent a ticket about exactly this so hopefully they will figure it out
Yeah i was going to but the fact support chat is so obfuscated made me realize they don't want to talk to me...
i might be done honestly. STO is jank but it at least works.
@heady moon how is it a bye week when server 43&69 won’t exist anymore 🤣🤣🤣
Its a bye bye bye
They'll be doing incursions on the newly combined servers.
can we have a free desealing rod 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥹🥹🥹
The funny part is I would have enough but now that it's moved up. I don't have enough and I'm gonna miss it.😡
It's not like it coincides with dailies or anything.lol
seems there are a few in that predicament.
I need them ship parts.lol
Yuppp …can’t wait for server 42 to get losses each incursions also 🤣🤣 S43 has folks that intentionally make everyone lose 🤣🤣
Dude, where’s my treasury? 😂
have you restarted?
Oh jeepers.
lol yuppp
OK, restarting seems to have worked for now. We'll see if it lasts.
another epic fail by scopley. it does no good to rerun a treasury event when scopley still took away 800 broken desealing rods so still no vault. nice scam to shut ppl up i guess
you know what is funny to use someone's rift to evisorate your evisorator up to an unreachable system 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😝😝😝😝
evisorator inception
But since there's a free recall, not much issue
i periodically uber my eviscerator to a system with the disco, then open a rift for other ships
why cant we pick who we max fortify then getting random people in the alliance that dont use the boost or is in the armada?
what hostile crew can I drop one of the officers and replace with a single warp crew if I am just 5 warp range away from what I need ( with max angle in discise research )
janeway doc grush
anyone remember how to source the first meridian?
ok that makes sense could have swore it was like from missions like vidar
what does that mean?
that's the symbol for the fatu
This event is highly unfair for G6 players... When G5 and under have faction armadas...
where can i put twitch clips at?
They know g6 players are mostly spenders and they'll spend for the win
Glad you said mostly Because I am now willing to
Yes, what really ticks me off is that it originally had xindi armadas in it, which could suppliment some of the points. But that was removed.
Well it was changed to faction armadas...
5 epics is a lot I'm guessing
I can't even warp into the epic zone...
Not to mention it has a 300% damage hazzard
i have to get a rift into the first epic, lol
well my minerva can make it, but it ain't soloing them at tier 2
Sounds like brokely strikes again
I'm still 62
so can i share my clips here sonce i cant in the #📺-streams-and-videos channel I cant post there 😦
And that is why we don't recommend going to G6
Last month g5 had only xindi for scoring though.. nobody did the sms 😅
Was literally impossible to do it without buying a pack
did yall feed the hamsters recently? 🤣 lag is rough over here
Could a mod please mute me for an indefinite amount of time?
ShadowMelon_ will not stop spamming malware
🤨
Haha and they muted him
He asked me to 🤷♀️
This fix for treasury hurts players that need the time to finish it to get the funds to open since they made it only 1 hostile only have 3 days to open
@silver parcel @slim sierra
It was in reference to this post, which I advise deleting.
Thank you!
I could be wrong, but if anyone wants to be censored for a time, I always side of safety and purge
Another mod caught his posts earlier, or so we thought. Appreciate you catching that one!
Now to get my lazy butt back to work 
quite liked first 2 episodes of lower decks s5 (shame its been cancelled though)
Question: is there going to be another Symbiotic Exchange after this one or just spend my credits now?
I believe there's usually three. But you never know, Scopely likes to change things up.
Alright thanks. I thought so, usually last one has an avatar if I remember right. Guess I'll save.
So does anyone actual think they will be able to pull off incursions this time?
Why do the desealing rods expire?! I unlocked one last time but changed my mind and wanted to wait for the next one. There's no warning or in-game mention that they do. 6 months of saving gone 😡 <@&509691205798592532> can you help get this made more obvious so people don't lose them? An explanation as to why would be appreciated too since we've got 1001 other currencies that don't expire.
<@&509690795536941056> Can we get an official Announcement regarding Alliance Tournaments please? Rumors say it's delayed / worked on.
It's one of those things that has been explained many times yet people still don't know it. It is definitely in the FAQ:
https://scopely.helpshift.com/hc/en/19-star-trek-fleet-command/faq/6467-treasury/
Many people have reported that the first time you make this mistake, you can open a ticket for it to get them back.
Thanks man but I know it's in FAQ (now) but there's no clear warning in game. I play a game for fun, not read an online library! It makes no sense whatsoever and I've personally not seen this before. With everything else wrong from week to week it's impossible to keep track of all of it
Is it Lag Friday today?
It makes perfect sense when you understand the rationale.
I believe so.
The rationale is that it would enable people to “buy” the rod from a lower value treasury, keep it, and use it to open a more expensive one when their treasury assignment has been updated.
Which, while I’m sure as a consumer you’d love to be able to do, you can appreciate that as a business that is something they need to be able to deal with.
Well as a mostly F2P player that doesn't apply. I changed my mind because I realised I needed the ship parts more so I held.
And if they're gonna charge £99 each time anyway, the content is irrelevant, it still costs £99 so what difference does it make to the business side?
It doesn’t cost £99 each time.
It does, because many people’s first treasury was a fiver.
That’s because your treasury is £99 because of - most likely - past spend or previous unlocks.
Not everyone’s treasury is £99, and it ramps up.
So because I've ground them out in the past they increase the price?!
They increase the value commensurately too.
Oh for crying out loud
Works in your favour if you’ve never bought a thing.
Well I appreciate the explanation. Can't remember ever seeing that come up before
You wouldn’t want the £5 treasury for free when you’d seen the £99 you could get for the same frequency if by your own admission you are indeed F2P.
IIRC when the treasury was first added, the pack cost $€£99, but more recently they added cheaper packs though if you'd already opened a treasury you won't see them.
The £5 treasury even at Ops 60 is about enough to upgrade a gun on a mid tier Vahklas.
You do not remember correctly 🙂
I'd only ever seen £99 so thought it was a flat rate like all the other maxed priced packs
There was a lot of noise on here about how unfair it was that the whale treasury was “better” until people realised they were being charged whale prices for the whale treasury.
Cs ticket will sometimes get them reimbursed for first time hiccups on claiming
There's a lot of noise on here from week to week with breaking things and unrealistic events 😂
(BTW)
It's very hard to keep up
One man’s unrealistic event is another man’s easy target.
That could be, but I've never bought a treasury pack and it's still €99 for me
Bought any other packs?
this whole treasury thing is ridiculous our bad for not giving you the stuff that you paid for but we're we're still going to charge you for it
Reminds me, need to get the wave BP
But appreciate the explanation folks. A clearer message in game wouldve helped too. You shouldn't need to come to another forum or the FAQ to find this out though.
Yes, the €20 monthly BP and another pack about once a year. (I'm not complaining)
That’d do it.
Will try my luck and inform the team too 🫡
No problem - the challenge there is can you imagine the walls of text in game as they tried to explain everything in game, especially in the context of people that still come here complaining about alliance tournament credits that clearly stated in game that they didn’t carry? 🙈
Don’t understand; what’s the issue? 👀
With the frequency that this happens with treasury claims, it sounds like it needs a warning at least on the first-time claim. But prob cost-wise it's easier to let the helpdesk handle it
Oh sure. But I mean something when you unlock the desealing rod confirmation screen that says "this is only going to be valid for this treasury if you unlock now, it will expire" or something.
Alliance tourney credits, arenas, ... it's a long list. And the other side of the coin is adding warnings to everything that people complain about irritates the rest of the players who don't need it 😂
True 😂
It's also true (been studied) that with the amount of popups in general in games and on t'interwebs, that many people just click "OK" without reading.
We did talk about this at the time with the team, and I believe I even explained at the time that “you may educate people who are here and playing now, but are you educating new players?” but, well, you know how that went.
I used to play with a guy who bought everything in the store until they stopped coming up because they annoyed him. He didn’t read a popup he just wanted it to go away 🤣
Oh I know. I get that too but that's easily avoided. E.g. the beam cutting warning on the Cube. I had to make a conscious effort to prevent the message coming again, like a 2 step confirmation almost. Just frustrating when I've been waiting so long for this 😂
Back to rebooting 20 times a day for months until the next one I guess. Appreciate the time folks. Hopefully CS are as understanding 🖖
Time may be your enemy here but I wish you luck 🙏🏻
Yes, I do like that else I'd be forgetting to zap something with the beam every time I take the lego out
Simple solution to a simple problem. We apparently got lucky in that case 😂
If I had any good will with the CMs I’d volunteer to try get their eyes on your ticket but I’m out of goodwill after posting this yesterday:
No idea what that relates to but I'm gonna assume you had fun there going on that 2 line of dialogue 🤣
Something that is not armadas 😂
Gotta get the kiddo ready for school 🫡🖖
The Chimera, they’re not armadas (even though just about every dialog everywhere in the game calls them armadas 😂)
Yes they are!
You even get notifications on your phone if you’re old school and have those on saying that someone’s formed an armada and you should join the fight. 🤣
Also get them for solomadas
They aren’t, as you (solo or alliance) are the armada and your group of ships are the armada, but Chimera you can only send one ship. Which isn’t an armada.
And you need directives/a specific currency to launch them and there's a countdown!
But it sure walks, talks and smells like one 🙈
You're attacking 2 ships, thats an armada! Just you're attacking an enemy one. That's hilarious and so very, very Scopely 😂
😬
I'd love to get my hands on whatever they're smoking when they come up with these things 😂
Hence why I’m out of goodwill
Very understandable 🤣
"what's that, a picture of water? Well the picture isn't wet so it's not water you're looking at".
My linguistics professor would've been in awe of this level of semantics
eh anyone would think the people writing the game text are not native speakers
Or understand the irony of having an auto censor in game that cuts names like Walter then writes mission texts with swearing in it 🙄 I shouldn't be surprised really. I left a review way back when and they edited my reviews post date when they replied 6 months later so it looked like they had replied in days. They don't seem to understand that Play Store shows the history 😂 the distain for their customers is very tangible sometimes!
Aye, the censorship is over the top, made worse that a normal word in one language could be considered offensive, or simply vulgar, in another, by coincidence of spelling, and is therefore censored. And then factor in that there is a minimum age to have a Google or Apple account... There is no doubt that younger children have accounts as well as social media as there is no verification and one can simply lie and tick a box, but murica is many ways a nanny state at the same time as it's a "my rights" state.
It reminds me of the schools where students can't research biology assignments in the computer labs because filtering.
I hope not... my alliance is still at level 1... after days in chat with CS, our admiral was told we should be able to get our XP when it comes back, so we've been missing out on all the levels 2-5 EC stuff for weeks already........
They’re in the same boat in that they haven’t got the XP they should have had I believe.
Does anyone know if the mirror relam has missions and if so what systems are they in? Please and thank you
There is one.
I forget where, though.
Is it just the one? I've only been able to find one. Another player said there was more i just can't find any.
I think it was Mirror Kronos, but look it up before looking for it, cuz it needed you to bring stuff to finish it.
Ah. If there's more, I hadn't heard of it.
Do solo armada officers work?
I’ve only done one mission in Mirror but no idea on the mission name
Ok cool. Thank you for your help
np
Eh. This game's censor isn't as bad as some I've seen. In Dragon Quest X, for example, a phrase like "smash it" would be censored...lol.
Well that's got some very clear connotations to be fair 😂
Haha, bad example. But basically, it ignores spaces when deciding to censor.
No.
It's a Japanese game, though, so that kinda makes sense. But it's still annoying when it happens
Though this game censors the word "crap", so points off for this one, too.
File a ticket with CS. Naming and shaming here isn't allowed.
so the treasury timer is now reduced due to it beeing compleeted by 1 hostile
bummer i had plans
same
maybe they realized it would align with overflow completion 😅
either overflow or the monthly (in 4 days) would complete me a rod 😮💨
the problem was...when they activated the treasury event, some ppl not see... (a bug) and they decided apply this "solution" to all ppl
The thing I don’t understand, is how a bug like that should occur. If I’d designed it, there’d be a configuration they can set that says when the treasury starts & ends, and what’s in it, and then it just goes live for everyone at the same time, or it doesn’t go live for anyone.
If you program things with duct tape and add other functions with duct tape.
Morning all anyone got good crews for mission hostiles the yellow ones using ent D with ghrush on please
no it's fine, i'm allowed to blow things up today, client had just asked me about migrating to mac, entirely justifiable
Macs are fun.
When I say fun, I mean “interesting to have to spend ten times longer trying to work out how to manage them half as well just so someone can feel a bit more important”
yes yes just stuck
This is ridiculous! I know my RNG is horrible, but I don't think duplicate ATAs should be allowed whether they are available nor already running. This was right after the ATA reset.
@mild fossil lower deck should have e kim belana and tom paris then add janeway khan grush. That looks reasonable.
Ty my friend will give a go
Using that now on a t5 ent d
Anything that boosts your damage output. Chapel below decks also may be more effective than kim
Hi. Is tier 5 Northstar stronger than maxed Jellyfish ? Exactly that. Any place I can see that ?
Is anyone else not scoring in the apex rogue event?
someone said Northstar combat capabilities are similar to Kehra of same tier. That not true ?
#🕵-server-discord-links2 if it's not listed there, ask in game
Listed there but link not working
The number of things that influence ship “strength” are massive. To boil them down to “is one stronger than x ship at y tier” oversimplifies the problem. Firing pattern, crew benefits, all of these become very situational as you do comparisons.
just about everything has better combat capabilities over a kehra
well I am aware of that. What I mean is you use same crew with both ships, which performs better ?
northstar will do better over kehra, the kumari and northstar are about equal
the vahlas is the middle of the road
then from what you are saying tier 5 Northstar is way better than maxed Jelly, because tier 5 Kehra is way more stronger than a Jellyfish.
all 4 are obsolete once you can build a saladin
That’s still an it depends situation.
You cannot simplify that down without being very, very specific.
That captain ability is massive with the right crew.
Hence, it depends.
well, while my Jellyfish hits half the damage Kehra does at tier 5, and has 3 times less health and shield, then it can be simplified, no ?
No.
You can make a Jellyfish kill Lv49 transports in capital systems without losing hull.
You can’t do that with a Northstar.
It depends.
I think you live in the dream world lol
What problem are you approaching with what crew will tell us if a Jelly is comparable with that tier of Northstar.
And I think you could be more respectful of people trying to help you understand.
But here we are.
There is a reason G6 players still have small fleets of Jellyfishes and those that have Northstars do so for nostalgia purposes 🙂
I'm realistic. I know the game mechanics pretty well, and crew mechanics. I'm just curious what is your set up that kills lev 49 transports for you..lol
with jellyfish
Anything is possible if you know what you’re doing.
that's not a jelllyfish, and I am aware of premium Relata that was available long time ago
That’s not a “premium” Realta.
and have g5 equivalent research 🤣
That’s the same Realta you and I have.
With the impulse skin? I want to say?
Arsenic will have both.
Thats a spenders’ Realta
well with all the buffs you get at high level it makes it possible perhaps, but I dont see how it performs better than a Northstar
It depends.
Yes, if you’re going hostile grinding you can throw more hostiles at the Northstar if you’re running PMC.
But that’s a very different statement to “is stronger”
TOS Kirk for example, you’re probably making a Jellyfish hit harder than a Northstar.
Mirror Picard?
Kehra is just plain stronger in every area than Jellyfish. You said Northstar is stronger than Kehra. Then I can;'t see scenario where Jellyfish outperforms a Northstar. You mentioned 70& captain bonus, what captain you would use to make it better than Northstar in case ...lets ssay those lev 49 transports ?
It isn’t, but I’m clearly going to die of exhaustion trying to get you to drink having led you to water, so have a great day ahead.
you just complicate things where not needed, sometimes better is better because of the difference
Sure.
He is from scopely
You go have fun ignoring crew and ship bonuses, I’m sure you’ll make a fantastic asset to your team 👍🏼
What can't be achieved by crewing can always be done by Photoshop 👍
I have also quit I just don’t care about the game 🤭 I’m here to troll
I’m sure we’re gonna see this one in #969176337698926632 asking how something is even possible “because stronger” 🤣
pretty sure I've already seen it on social media 😂
I think I already said you use same crew in both ships, didn't I ? Anyways have fun
Yes, but some crews benefit from the ship ability and some do not.
Well, some do but it doesn’t affect outcomes would be more accurate.
still waiting for info what captain you use that makes Jellyfish 70% captain bonus kill lev 49 transports, while Northstar can't, like you said
You can make the Northstar kill Lv49 transports. I didn’t say you couldn’t. Just that there are ways that I won’t put out here that allow you to do no damage 49 Transport kills.
That you cannot do with a Northstar.
Anyhow, you don’t want education, you want affirmation, so yes, if you look at the numbers in the ship stat page the Northstar is quite obviously “stronger” than the Jelly.
of course you will not put it here
It’s just not a factually correct statement on its own without that specific context.
Yeah, cos Scopely are here and they have a long history of taking things like that away, like when everyone showed how you could put any ship on a node in Yarda with PMC and a specific research and never die from hostiles.
They’ve seen it mentioned around before and I’m not going to be the one that teaches them what they need to change 😂
maybe, I don't know every crew member, yet. But you are aware that 70% captain bonus is to captains value only, without synergy bonuses ? Which means it's not that significant. I'm just curious with what captain it would make that difference
A few.
Anyway, this conversation became boring a while ago as you don’t want to learn, you want to tell, so have a great day 🙂
I'm always learning, there just wasn't anything to learn, since your info is secret
Would there be any additional officers could be added in event store, now that only 4 days left
very unlikely
Yuki captain janeway grush with chapel blow deck kim and hugh might be the best as with the first crew i suggest battle are going for 9 rds so yukis shield strip has time to get to work.
Ty will try other crew didn’t work
Yeah I’m 5k rare gas for t5
That might the issue.
Scops want you to break out that credit card
There’s a treasury for that!
@half hornet your looking at things the wrong way that the issue. Ship strength says nothing about its combat ability. It has an influence but research and officer ability make more of a difference.
That realta is likey to be a high ops player vs a lower g4. It's not really a fair fight due to the power creep
He se that realta can blow up a kelvin.
Baby jelly is quite good in station defence with yuki as captain. Super shield strip.....
But not this one 😆
Yup. As I said, plenty of places a Jelly is way “stronger” (assuming strength is synonymous with “doing the job better”) than a Northstar but… 🤷🏻♂️
I said nothing about ship strength. All I care about are stats: damage, shield, health, penetration/etc, dodge/etc. Which means you can usually get the picture of ship capabilities when using same crew, right ? But lets drop this subject
Not this one
Next one hopefully
Nice rare ore in this one thou would teir up my Borg ship
So we gonna run Arena/war room/alliance tournaments, during infinite perversion?
tournaments aren't coming back this month and probably not next month
war room will coincide with incursions, arena hasn't changed
bye week servers and warroom? or lets just hope for the best? ^^
¯_(ツ)_/¯
We got war room during bye week
any new promo code out?
We never got out syndicate advancement stuff for last alliance tournament. Boss had a death from the storm and couldn't log on
New admiral was told to check during next tournament for turnin but now may be postponed for two more months?
the heck is this now, can't play the game at all
I was speaking with HarmoniousDeath about it when it occurred, but then had to hand it off to my admiral to do the ticket. Ill see what I can do
<@&509690795536941056> I know we aren't the only team without our XP from those (another spoke up last night on here), so can we get an official response on those and the Efficiencies comp?
you need to open a ticket about the issue, then contact the CM via dm with the ticket number so it can be escalated. as for the efficiencies comp, there's no word on it
We have a ticket number on the Emerald Chain issue, I think
Multiple, I have one, Beav had one, Dan has one....
Last support response was "unable to rewards events that did not have participation"?
The emerald chain issue is case to case. As for the efficiencies comp, we are still working on it
Even though we all thought we kicked butt
Please be good to me reset
Last I had heard was they told us we would get it when the tournaments came back.
Not that good…
I hope they don't forget the Efficiencies one... I bought Lorca and a treasury and spent a full weekend upgrading, so I must have lost a LOT....
Can we PM you with our ticket numbers for the Emerald Chain issue to escalate it, as ArsenicTouch suggested?
I don't know why people complain about unity bps, it's the easiest and fastest to knock out
hell, wait until the faction daily and kill two birds with one stone
Im complaining that all other events have disappeared 🙄
of course!
Loading loading loading loading
Again not what i was complaining about but sure keep you rolling with that 🙄
i'm checkinggg
really hate that they have events awarding currency after the event spending currency ends
lol
looks good on my side buddy, try a quick clear loc?
idc about the spending event, keep the trill emblems coming ^^
the game feels better today 🙂
No spend event this weekend?
well this is nice time
Ahh, dang. Low lv scrub here
Weird flex, but ok.
oh, that was an upgrade
yup
I did it! 🙂
now u gotta get thu the op locks
ok i better keep tripple pulling on those
as much fun as talios T11 >
Another week, another no ascension.
i just started playing this game
whats your ops level now?
good luck, dont rush your leveling.
i have a friend who loves star trek
im trying to figure out the game so i can play with him
i like the graphics though
any tips?
aw crap i think i just started an intergalitic war
Any Plans to make the Borg Cube Transwarp Drive available again? Doenst matter if in Events or for Money. But i want it 😭
It's in Emerald Chain
Right. Forgotten that. Thanks. Then i have to complain otherwise:
I want Allianze Games NOW 😭 🤣
what ops do u need to be for that
not ops related, by your alliance ranking for the tournament
I think whatever OPs you can join an alliance at.
Any timeline for when we'll be seeing incursion prep events?
Scopely should throw in a regional fleet commander upgrade SLB into the arena prep events
better than 2 x mat spend events
@queen jolt ^
or better should have had delivered the promised artefact event this. current performance on communication and delivery is dropping significantly. scopes doing best to have a worse year end turn
the only thing moderators communicate currently seems to be about purchase stuff nothing else
anything would be better than 2 x back to back mat spend events
a bit of creativity man! 😂
you shall spend and sink money in those "shiny" scam packs or the treasury 😂 and event where they are incapable even designing "attractive" bundles... they simply wont launch
they never promised an artifact event
I have expressed disdain for both RLB and spend event.
I don't mind spend events, when they're not back to back, but when they make the spend event an RLB, they can go pound sand
yeah and this weekend is worse with regional and incursion XSLB on top. just nuts now many spend events in parallel
I'd take a wormada event at this stage 😂
did i just pull a luke skywalker?
Wormada RSLB, let's go 😂
im so confused
I feel dirty
Anyone know why Voyager isn't getting rewards for FKR armadas?
you know yesterday I realsied I can get up to combat tranning level 60 with the help of my alliance hitting level 60 armadas
He Ben 👋. Didnt know you joined KRIM. Glad to see you found a place 🙂
yeah its been good here 🙂 still working on getting ops 51 when I can and the rest of my g4 ships built and triple faction 1 billion lock currently 1 billion fed and both commended for rom and klingon
Great job! Your doing well 😄
so I just did the math at 1350 credits per day It will take me more 700 days to get my enterprise -a
😳 jeeez!
you should be able get more credits per day than that, though, especially when you average out the non-daily pulls
@fast lintel
event not scoring right
my monaveen has killed over 100 x 60s and 0 points scored
I havent been doing my fed daily pulls as I am tring to get my rom and klingon to 1 billion lock and fed pulls set me back over 2 million each day
but I did realsie that the mu surveys drops chest with credits in them 🤯 I didnt know that before
a battleship needs to be the attacker, so autogrind in the right places can still work
But not on this event I think
on the explorer version I was getting credit for autogrinding in augment space
locked with romulans so I can't test their battleships
YESSSSSSSSSSS no more hitting a ship then bl;owing up and coming back hoping its still there
how can you get the apex newton skin?

so I use my protector against solo armadas its my strongest ship
then my newton and kelvin and talios
I mean if you have the $100 for it for me 😝😝
lol
Yes the vindicator

He spent 100 quid on a not needed pack already this week
i'll never waste 100 bucks on this game
Rather than play the game properly and effectively
The refinery for it great
when ftp path for the new ship and will that take months to get it
You can't ftp ops 51 🤷
oh u mean the VOY lol
thats why im camping at 42 for awhile
gonna do all research
vindicator ship 😝😝
i'll rather buy vapes then packs
What size solo armadas are you doing?
Both tat lol
i'll eat at micky dees before i buy a pack
depends on what I can reach
possibly level 50
Had breakfast there today lol
Sadly still alive lol
For the Bajoran Solos with G4 rare and G4 UC should be aiming for the 53s atleast, possible even the 56s (they might be a bit of a push though).
lol vamp
what is the best crew have janeway crew but not ds9 armada crew yet
Well I am a vampire I need my meat
still workng on getting sisko, miles and basir
Blood only no?
The new crews they just put in should be pretty good for the solos thinking about it. Toli should hopefully help a good amount.
Vampires pretty wasteful
Bloody Halloween Milkshakes
who I still need
Bet your research is nonexistent
Miles and sisko are super easy to unlock and level up. Shouldn't have much of an issue with them.
Epic Data sucks to unlock since he's in ATA.
but there is a paradox in that you need good crews to do the solo armadas to unlock them in the first place
Don’t think you need good crews average crews has been working for me
You'll have to hit lower than you should be hitting to start unlocking the officers and then you'll be able to start hitting at the level you should be hitting.
Stop rushing
It also helps if you use crews that can benefit each other across multiple ships.
so if I use protector, newton and kelvin with two bost I will try hitting a level 53 solo but with what crew again?
I’d be using defiant for the dom solos just for the edicts even if it dies
Yup
ok 🖊️ ✅ 📓 ✅
@heady moon any chance of you guys adding a digit to the end of this in the event store, surely it’s missing one 😅
Look at the voyager parts one
Dunno what to buy really. Most stuff is poop
Voyager maxed, but this for 75k = 1 daily pull. Seems excessive 😅🙈
Yeah I ended up getting syndicate xp lol
is it janeway/blt/kim?
Maxed the syndicate xp
You get 29 voyager parts for 7500
I should retract my request for fear they’ll reduce the number further 😅
Indeed lol
Way too generous. Shhh
or is it chakote/janeway/blt?
next 5/6/lorca or 5/6/khan?
Got 98k trill to spend still
and then pbc for the last ship ?
This is what I've been using.
here is a level 50 uc should I go up to 53?
any active codes to reedem?
You should be good
yay I did level 51
Loo
With bad crews
Nice. Vindicator looks pretty solid
Yep makes a difference
now I am going to try uc 53 with max fortify and ceritos boost but swaped out my protector and newton as protector is stronger taking more damgage then weaker newton
Might be able to squeeze a 53 but it looks like it'll be close.
Vindicator is quite bad ship on armadas if you don't take benefit from its Taunt ability.
Without that it doesn't protect other ships and its DPR is absolutely miserable.
(Only commenting because from your screenshot looks like you didn't have taunt on.)
so why does thes whisper of fall sms lag so bad on the final day
Another matter. I noticed Byr isn't on officer search tool. Probably already under works, but thought to meantion anyways.
*For loot officers
the meta sms is terrible laggie
Pretty close. Bit more research and you should be good.
here is the spocks club log https://spocks.club/battlelog/?bl=10df115c-3afa-43f3-a7d8-5c8412a68328
Its a beauty that enterprise
@heady moon Why does it always say "SALE!" I've never seen anything on Sale 
Everything in there is for Sale. Sale doesn't inherently mean "discount".
the ! would suggest otherwise
what about rares do you think could do a level 52 rare with the same ships and crew?
and the timer 🤣
Nah they just shouting that there is stuff for sale and they want you to buy it right now.
Probably yes.
So your saying it should say SHOP! ?
Hey is it possible to make the game more unplayable than normal?? What $99 pack is it to have it crash more frequently? What a crock
I’m aware was just using it for the two armadas I needed for the event so didn’t want to waste a cool down
ok I am testing level 52 rare now
@STFC support Please gently slap whomever decided putting the video spam over the helps button was a great idea. Thank you!
because there's always something on 'limited time availability', which is another usage of 'sale', it doesn't only imply discounts
yay I won
I don't think don't Picard works for armadas
it say he does
Cool 
I could be wrong
well he may not work against armadas drirectly but 120% effect officers so boost other officers
bpe ( picard , bev, eurydice ) instead of chen
JLP does work for armadas too. Both the desired captain ability and less meaningful officer ability
That's wrong Picard, lol
Oh
We mean Jen-Luc Picard from TNG
so many picards xD
Yep 
is the ferengi whip even still worth buying for xD
I been using JL pocard bev and gwen for armadas. Relying on a buff or two for the crit chance.
Its been crushing
You definitely need to start putting more into your research and special buildings. With your ships you should definitely be doing the 53+ armadas and pushing into the 56s.
Yesterday saw 1 player using NSEA for lvl 40UC Exchange solo attempt with Lieutenant Picard as captain with Ghrush and Cadet Scotty on sides 
They failed it too because not enough damage to kill in 100 rounds, lol
Was 52M NSEA as well 
tell me you got no idea without telling me you got no idea
Pretty much, lol
Seeing people put ship specific FTs on the wrong ship is always a good one.
I have the cloak ft on my disco 👀
But it does have cloak and summon 😈 so much fun
Yeah, that too. And when doing some specific thing with non-standard gear getting "questionable advice" from others.
Like I was grinding XP for Cerritos and combined it to getting survey parts by hitting Heavies with impulse + loot crew. Did them with barely any damage to myself but a player there sent me advice to use PMC, lol.
I mean as an example, saw someone with the Voyager FT on a Stella....
lol yeah I know what you mean I’ve seen the cloak ft on voyager
Maybe he wanted the increase loot
Wasn't leveled high enough to have the loot bonus.
have 500 epic directices now
They literally only had it high enough to have unlocked the 2 Voyager specific buffs.
Yes
I was only trolling btw stupid to put it on it even if he had the loot lol
nope died
Need more research.
I have done all of the reasarch I can currently do without buying tons of packs
You're definitely missing some stuff. I'm 5 ops lower than you and I managed to do the 55 Epic.
you just got lucky that all
so for me it takes 12 uncommons to do 4 rares to do one epic
nah the nsea needs to go + you need to work on your crew. try putting sisko crew on defiant instead as damage dealer. switch voyager to the kelvin. you don’t need a survival crew, you need to knock it down faster
no sisko or miles I cant get them remember I am like 1 away from miles and like 52 shards from sisko
I’m sorry what?
the game is biasd it wont let me have miles even when I have 1 left to unlock him none of the pulls will give me the last shard
Ok, you’re closer to Miles than me but I’m closer to Sisko than you. Do you never open recruit chests?!
just did one elite pull in bajoren store didnt give me him but got 5 of changling kira
and also did a ultra recruit pull still didnt get him
Thought I could quit but this game keeps dragging me back in 😭
I tried to quit but I just quit tryin'
What’s it like being ops39 😛
Hmmm Hammer pack to upgrade my Battleship… or Tantalus field…
Better than being that far from Sisko 🤣
thats what you want, sisko... pffft ^^
Was given $100 to only spend on the game for my Bday.
Tantalus field for Arena and Incursion? Or Something else?
tant field is nice, i made a video why it is a good buy in general
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np hope it helps
Tantalus is fun for incursions, especially when the other player doesn’t have it.
its nice in general for the upfront hull bonus
@fast lintel after all this time, why doesnt this event even provide a minimal amt of rare mats, and rare parts?
@dull mason
Where's our XSLB announcement? Hour before event reset like the treasury?
is there a good Territory crew or does it matter?
Think they made that announcement Tuesday. Normal slb this weekend
Arena prep sure, but incursion prep. Gotta have SLBs on SLBs on SLBs
I posted this in event chat but no response so I’ll post again here.
@heady moon can you give me some clarification here please? Saturn 42 is looking down the barrel of a server merger with 43 that is supposed to happen in less than a week. Then the incursions schedule dropped and you have us listed separately as 38 against 42 but 43 is listed as a bye. Does that mean that 43 had to get a bye because no one is going to be there? Or does that mean that the merger is postponed?
why do I always remember that exocomps exist... the moment it's too late to activate them 
I'll just save these megaelixers for a boss fight....
@heady moon Why no epic G5...
Does the merge come before or after the incursion? My guess is youll be merged on 42 and in incursion while server 43 is offline or repurposed into a new server
can any one spare a spare pack need more latnium 🥺🥺
Correct. As I said in my post, the merger was supposed to happen in like 3-4 days.
The incursions is the same for everyone. So yes the merge is before incursions. But the post is confusing. Because why wouldn’t they just pull the other server out of incursions completely? Putting it as a bye makes no sense. To me anyway.
To fix what
Lag and performance issues I guess
They haven't fixed it in 5 years... I doubt they going to fix it with maintenance
Have you maxed the feesha? The refinery gives out a good chunk of latinum daily.
when you do maintance and fix thing's do fix only the small minute thing's that people don't complain about or do you fix thing's like this
cause i know for a FACT you didn't fix crap.
maybe we should setup a gofundme to hire some actual coder's to do the job since clearly your kid's studying to be game dev's can't do the job
[Ini'tarash Rest Space S:652910734 X:-168.0737 Y:-293.9755] is where this happened. try it on your server's see if you have the same issue..
is there any chance of the galaxy quest officers going to galactic recruit? 🤔
a chance.. sure... anytime soon.. prob not.. perhaps 6 months from meow
how to win an armada damage event:
@heady moon when are these going to be a thing?
"after scopely removes all bugs"
More like ... When they can make exos that people want to buy
Grabthar rip off is probably a bust
or maybe when they remember that building exists... 🤔
@heady moon where, for the love of all that is good and holy and smiled upon by jeebus, can we opt out of these in game ads for packs that I’ll never buy?
oh I don't have a Vindicator so I didn't know that lol
Sourcing is bad, but still they are sourced there
as long as I can get Dane 😄
I have Toli and DT 😄
Maxed?
no 😦
Dane is the only below decks impulse officer though right
and ya max Toli 1500% warp OP
Me neither, but I am all in on his shards
They make those cheap for players and rake us higher players across the coals for more cash.
Kinda getting sick of scopely bs
Is there any way at all to keep these Bek Job Security videos from constantly - and I mean constantly - reappearing….?
Unless some good answer came in but got drowned out, I have a couple of good ideas. You'll probably want either PvP power or Impulse Speed. PvP power to knock opponents out of the territory, or Impulse speed to not get thrown out yourself. Heck, if you're trying to claim territory, then you'll want to avoid engaging in PvP if victory is uncertain or unattainable.
On the other hand, if you're helping another alliance pick up a territory, absolutely go for PvP, harass your ally's opponents, stop them from knocking your ally off of the capture node when the points get scored on the minute. Even if you don't destroy the enemy, you would have stopped them from getting an advantage over your friend.
Oh, yeah, and ship power is irrelevant for scoring, so if you can't PvP, get a ship that's quick to redeploy. (Most certainly Realta, if you already have some territory to place your base in so that you don't have to worry about needing to make 20 Warp Range with it.)
I wonder when the Halloween Event begins because I want to get the gorn Captain avatar
That's the trick not the treat
@queen jolt https://i.imgur.com/g94j5zw.png eh.. shouldnt the meta run a bit longer ?
Agreed. Also awesome pfp
Oof... Didn't read Arena prep rss usage event description well enough. Wasted a lot on upgrading ships 💀
I remember events that only scored for UC/R/E usage for ships or only ore for buildings, but this type I have no recollection of.
How the heck am I supposed to drain people's bases when even with a decent cargo crew I can't take squat from anyone (ps my amalgam is the impulse engines away from t8)
It's not nice to steal
I'm teasing you
With incursions coming up(potentially at least) nice isn't on the mind bc losing isn't fun 😂🤣
What crew do you use?
Snw Laan and Enterprise E Data below deck with Mavery stonn and alonzo on the bridge
I'm super close to her but ofc when I get close to officers they don't pop up anymore 😅
They really need to learn to not be so shy they don't have to hide 😂
1 min. I'll get a SS
It's out. I can't take a pix
There's also the Borg guy
3 of 11?
Maybe?
I don't have 3/11 I don't think
You can take a ss of the officer through the officer menu
This might take a few minutes
Amal is better for larger bases. With only few B rss left many would consider it empty.
From 1T and up it can drain nicely. Then I stop when the ability is getting too low cut compared to normal cargo.
Yes, a big base will give you alot each attack
I raided the other day 100x
But it was more to make a point than anything else
I definitely feel like Scopely didn't read the calendar for planning incursions... 31st and 1st are holidays for many, and while that won't impact everyone of players, it will absolutely impact a sizeable %.
only 3 alliances on my server ever finish the mission key hunter ams. apac server 199.
what is completion rate like on other servers? please share your experience.
Samhain is...
Unless you have an alliance of 60+ who login to the scooply store
Isn't that a band?
20 days event? 8 keys a week... I mean, lazy alliances will absolutely fail that.
i'm in a top 10 alliance with 68 players currently, half of them make an attempt to collect the keys, but all of them say the rewards are not worth their time or effort. the needle does not move, even when collecting 365 days of the year.
It's to get peeps to login in to the scooply store
And maybe buy something
Alliance events aren't always for what rewards you can get, but for what they can get for your lower level members.
most players are 40 or above these days. i'm the lower player, my alliance was sick of me mentioning mission keys months ago, some probably have me blocked, others have asked me to stop talking about it. i was one of the players who suggested breaking the sms into 2 parts, 10 and 20 keys, as players who missed a few days basically gave up because they were never going to reach 20 keys if they missed a day or 2. but even that hasn't encouraged many more players to participate.
Then you need a new Alliance. Sounds like you're active and your team isn't arsed. So see which alliances are above you, ask to join them.
alliance choices are limited as there's not many english speaking alliances, and the #1 alliance only takes high level players who grind their behinds off 24/7.
For the record, I missed some keys one arc due to a hospital stay, still managed 19/20, still collected, because they're free recruits. Don't leave free money on the table.
Got to #2 then... or #3, because yours doesn't sound like it's top 5
60 members multiplied by 12.5 keys = 750 keys = ams completed. but i can't convince enough members to do so.
the other alliances are not english speaking
i did convice alliance to finish ams but couldnt convince myself to finish sms 🤣
my alliance is currently 5th in the mission key ams and 6th in power, very close to 5th and 4th power wise.
So? You US or APAC? Google translate is a thing, Discord has translate bots, and if everyone is working towards a goal, you don't need to have a conversation about it.
Time to leave your alliance i say 😂
Because if they not getting 20keys they ain't good enough
Out of 23 they can get
nah that would not work out just for one ams, my alliance is helpful in every thing else, just not mission keys as they do not see the rewards being worth anything.
Yea other than the arc store loot other ones really not worth anything
i'm lowest level in the alliance, i'm usually 1st in mission keys, not this time around though as my timing for the weekly and website was off.
some have starting collecting due to my harrassment over it, just not many/not enough.
U got like what 40k? end arc store loot from mission keys probably the only one worth it
Well they have improved atleast some progress
Oh its not just u 😂 i spend 6m points worth mats on ships already then realised that didn't count
Oh, can't really say "happy to hear that"
But maybe: thanks for sharing works. As I don't feel so stupid now, lol
You will feel more happy because with that and what points i have now ... Should have been top 5 in slb 😂 if i didn't spend it on ship
Currently 11
What's the average PvP players kills?
Pfffff fix the game scamely multiple times a day restarting noting works. Game is unplayable @heady moon @queen jolt
It’s a game not a job. Logging into a glitchy website on your mobile phone every day for 20 days in a row to collect a paltry reward isn’t top priority for most. There’s enough to do in game without things to do outside it. Same for the event that required you to find answers outside the game.
Where can I find some magnetic plasma nodes for starbase in federation system?
The time has come for the bonds to grow stronger between our brothers and sisters. It’s time to, once more, come together and bring glory to
Thank you, guys. Appreciate the kind help.
@heady moon hello Obsidian hammer. I will simp for you if you put sliders on these please. They rewlly need it.
Needed it as much or more than the others
Imo
red alert, arm photons, and phaser torpedoes
Were a peaceful planet we dont have any weapons
152k event store currency. Should i get janeway, rank 2 dane, or all the catalysts
👀
Nice render...
Don't you guys wanna work on these?
<@&509690795536941056>
what's with the horrible performance on 55 today?
Seems across the board
Just adapt and play slower 😎
You’ll just be told you are playing on an inadequate device so graphics re force-rendered at low quality. Even if it’s a brand new top-end of the version tablet/phone
No, I don’t believe they will.
A lot of the G5/G6 ships just look poop.
Even my Thunderchild? ;-;
they did look better at one point, they have proper renders
but they borked them, either intentionally or accidentally and never fixed it or acknowledged it
night and day difference, lol
and even then the voyager used to look better
i am missing something there on the right....