🌌-galaxy-chat

[scarlet hare]

Well it's going to make arenas very busy after mining event has started.
Waiting for the lags and crashes to start🤣

[opal meadow]

i've advised them to halt all new events

[raven hemlock]

Anyone want to do some mirror waves oh wait it’s been broke now for what 6 days

[opal meadow]

they put blame on the isp DIRECTLY

[warm pivot]

but to be honest, which 40+ player thinks about placing high in the latinum rush slb? we all got our feesha and parts from voyager refinery... i even stopped farming normal latinum despite my dvor being t8,999/9

[scarlet hare]

Compensation chest better include lots of syndicate

[opal meadow]

AND I TOLD THEM MY ISP WILL TAKE THEM TO COURT for slaunder

[raven hemlock]

Here’s your free 10 min speed up

[scarlet hare]

My preload covers my weekly refinery pulls

[warm pivot]

you dont pull high refines, do you? ^^
go big or go home 🤪

[raven hemlock]

I’ve tried very hard to see this through scopley eyes but I just can’t seem to get my head that far up my own aşs

[proven shuttle]

Any word on lag? Just in general. It's been uncommonly worse since last night.

Wow did that kill chat or is it my device?

[vague gull]

Funny guy

[turbid ginkgo]

Server 710 can't join, locked at ops 39

[raven hemlock]

@turbid ginkgo what kind of car is that on your profile pic

[turbid ginkgo]

My old 2021 mustang gt

[raven hemlock]

My 13 zl1

[turbid ginkgo]

Had to trade in the mustang due to the economy going to 💩

[raven hemlock]

700 hp so far and I’d rather trade the wife in before my ride

[turbid ginkgo]

🤣

[minor furnace]

Did she say the Mach E? 🙃

you wanted a mustang? right???!?!?!

[turbid ginkgo]

Mach E isn't and will never be a mustang 😂

[fervent jasper]

Mach E is a glorified shaver

[uncut scaffold]

Lol amen

[fervent jasper]

and dont get me started on those fake engine sounds it makes....

[boreal oasis]

sadly that's not for the car, but for people to not walk in front of a silent 2 ton moving object

[fervent jasper]

I know but come on, have you heard the ppor imitation it does xd

[fervent jasper]

2 ton shaving brick

They couldve made the sound more realistic at least

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-rider-attack-mode-transformation-muscle-car-kitt-hd-gif-21113930

[fervent jasper]

Ohhh yeeeah that

CGI but better CGI than most of todays movies

and most tv shows

[dull mason]

The CGI on the last episode of KARR changing into a robot, looked like
Transformers.. before transformers the movie..

[fervent jasper]

Have ya seen The Flash CGI?

xD

That crap looks like any 5yr old could do it in like 3min

[dull mason]

Yeah, I' have a few boxsets

[fervent jasper]

Yes, thats from the actual MULIT MILLION dollar tv show

not some fan made film

[snow raven]

Had to trade in my firebird for this. I’d say it’s worthy.

[dull mason]

Check out the scene of impulse on Smallville 😆

[fervent jasper]

Oh God.... xD

HOW can they just BUTCHER it like that

xd

[dull mason]

At least it's not a Honda cub 🤣

[fervent jasper]

Guess the budget xD

Flash had a budget of....

50M dollars....

PER SEASON

so about 220M

220M dollars and... their CGI is THAT bad

[dull mason]

Supergirl was slightly better what did you think about legends?

[fervent jasper]

Literally, ANYONE with even a SLIGHT understanding of making CGI can do that in like 4 mins

[iron halo]

I’ve got over 800k power

[fervent jasper]

Pretty good, leagues better than Flash at times

and?

[dull mason]

I haven't seen legends of a while since s3, krypton needed a bigger budget
The latest Superman series is good, sadly it's cancelled

[fervent jasper]

Good things are always cancelled

btw, this and wasnt directed at you Owl, it was toward Joshua

[stray grove]

🇯🇲

[warm pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/going-to-bed-fail-caleb-labelle-daniel-labelle-midair-lagging-fall-to-the-floor-gif-27075152

[vagrant vapor]

looks like hamster on 163 needs a breather again

pretty tiresome this lag 😞

[livid shell]

Shouldn’t the arenas be able to start like waves ? Why’s that there’s a fixed time ?

[hidden mango]

Rewards not paying out on Arena Prep

[strong nacelle]

Game is lagging badly……MU waves are still broken…… hey look at the shiny new garbage over here…. arenas 🤣

[late ermine]

Really need a fix for mu waves quick

Have been missing out on stuff

[upper spade]

More lag.... S27

[weary herald]

does anyone have the picture of the event schedule?

[crude phoenix]

really? vindicator parts in the bp,, rather have stuff that i can use tbh

[arctic flint]

<@&509690795536941056> will there be a mirror wave comp chest since they are unplayable until Tuesday?

[silver parcel]

yes

[woeful compass]

aren't there supposed to be chance rates?

[silver parcel]

one would think

[glad pike]

by law, no less?

[fluid shore]

Pay up & stop asking questions 🗿

[warm pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[dull mason]

They don't listen on the weekend

[acoustic ore]

Just make sure you don't report them

[wispy token]

or weekdays....😂

[kind silo]

when I enter Taureils I get exception title 200. I can't see any hostiles in the system

[warm pivot]

prepare for disconnect

[dull mason]

Collect Error code's 🤣🤣

[signal stag]

i got that one every two lines in alliance chat when the arc started ^^'

(as in, every second line i had to write twice because on send i got that error popup and my message was gone ^^')

[weary herald]

does anyone have the picture of the event schedule please?

[woeful compass]

you got it in-game news and in #💫-event-information

[weary herald]

trying to figure out if we are getting a wave battlepass tuesday since we idnt get it last week

[woeful compass]

never been on the schedule

but you can count on it

its always during arcs and not during breaks

[short pewter]

Easy fix to system background problem - give us option to turn it off. And give a blank black background.

[fringe anchor]

Any idea when next treasury event is on?

[silver parcel]

monday

[rare talon]

This gotta be the most asked question lol

[fringe anchor]

Do you have an answer though lol

[reef dust]

How long will arenas be up?

[fleet flare]

arsenictouch has installed monday-bot to help respond to the inquiries

[foggy parrot]

until they finish

[fringe anchor]

😏

[foggy parrot]

did someone promise treasury soon? 👀

[little violet]

They said monday, but nothing written in stone

[empty bluff]

<@&509690795536941056> For Arena, do all ships need to be docked? Miners recalled?

[little violet]

Looks like it will be like the wave. Your base is not moving

[foggy parrot]

info said all ships will be auto-recallled

[carmine compass]

I thought it said something about base moving in the article 🤔

[little violet]

I haven't read it but tthe video stated it would be in the alliance tab, so I doubt it

[carmine compass]

found it

[foggy parrot]

base will move to arena system temporarily

[foggy parrot]

don’t join a squad while doing armadas

[brittle ivy]

It’s going to be really fun to listen to the melt down of all preloaders on Monday morning in EU 🍿

[little violet]

Then you will need to have all docks home because we still can move with ships out

Something I been asking for, for 5 years

[carmine compass]

what happens if you're in mirror space or waves and join a squad 🤔

[little violet]

Your account gets deleted

[carmine compass]

😱

[glad pike]

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

[foggy parrot]

oh yes expect the cries from the stupid ppl because they had ships in armadas/mirror space/mining and they got insta-recalled as promised

[carmine compass]

🤣

hmm... insta-recall actually sounds convenient for mining certain things

[little violet]

Is there a system that you can house for a bigger G6 uncommon armada?

[silver parcel]

which faction

the highest 65 and 68 are in hazard zones, no housing. the 62 klingon has housing a system right before it, but not the system itself, the 63 rares have housing, the 64 epic are in hazard

[cold anchor]

What are the 2 best pvp crews we have now up and belowdeck?

[steady oyster]

Whenever i go against carol freeman i get beaten. The arena will be a joke if it's a case of the haves and the have nots

[dull mason]

I've seen and done this type of thing on SoS

[foggy parrot]

current META is mirror picard crew, previous is freeman crew

[glad pike]

My understanding is that you lose the cargo. It's not recalled, just reset to be in your dock

Hope I'm wrong

[carmine compass]

who wants to be the test gerbil? 👀 🤣

[marsh bear]

Free from discord jail

[wispy token]

Correct....unless they change it cargo disappears.

[dull mason]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-rofl-lmao-lol-laughing-hard-gif-9413539681403148932

Looking at player's response to Arena ⬆️

[foggy parrot]

I don’t get why ppl are complaining… it’s optional and nobody has to do it 😂

[silver parcel]

by that metric, everything in this game is optional and you should never voice your concern about something

[late ermine]

Don't do it yup i enjoyed overall pvp tho

[foggy parrot]

of course some ppl would complain about free money

[late ermine]

Also got that 7k syndicate daily favor

Which is pretty nice

[foggy parrot]

everything in the game is optional

[late ermine]

I mean....not Wrong 😬

One of my few favourite thing from new store seeing i am way behind on syndicate

[ember ginkgo]

Game it’s self is optional 🤔

[late ermine]

Players do risk not doing new stuff and falling behind ... So the only actual problem i see with arena is matchmaking and tbh i don't think it will ever be perfect

Can be improved and theres room for it

[civic geyser]

Biggest obstacle might be getting a team together

[late ermine]

Just make the matchmaking longer for better or evenly matched opponents

[late ermine]

Range is pretty big so its not that hard...

The team i played was 40 to 53 a 46 created it

Or 42 to 53.. something around that

They should add a option for random Players team actually might be bad for small alliance or solo players

[civic geyser]

I’m against the solo player option as that will allow the rogues access to it

[late ermine]

Can add the kick option no like wave leader

Players can join open team

Leaders can kick players they don't like

[gentle raft]

What spaceships do you have?

[tranquil ravine]

what are the active codes

[gentle raft]

For what?

[tranquil ravine]

star trek

theres codes you can use

[gentle raft]

Redeem codes are trill1

Trill2

[tranquil ravine]

Trill2 doesnt work

[gentle raft]

Trill1 for ops 40 and below

[silver parcel]

Trill1 is 10-39, Trill2 is 40+

[tranquil ravine]

oh

im only 13

btw how do i increase my warp size

[silver parcel]

upgrade your shps, build better ships, some research later, and warp officers

[gentle raft]

Bigger ships go farther

[lapis crystal]

Probably commented here before, but just to give my input as well.

Arena should be more than 24h event. I think 72h would be optimal being realistic for fitting enough attempts and schedule for everyone interested. Would also help with lag.

Getting max pulls for a week takes between 2h to 4h gaming. Depending on team's success. So 4h in 1 day is a lot.

[tranquil ravine]

is it possible to get level 20 in 5 days? im already level 13

[gentle raft]

Get a Vclaws at ops 23, then a Salamander at ops 28

Apart from the special ships, skip everything else

[tranquil ravine]

can i get level 20 in 5 days tho?

i started today and im level 13 but thats cuz i used latinum

[gentle raft]

I wouldn't rush it

[tranquil ravine]

okay but is it possible

[lapis crystal]

I think it's possible but quite tough goal.

Regarding ships, I would take D3 for cloaking dailies. Because you need it later for scrapping for primes anyways.

[gentle raft]

Don't get too many ships

You're going to need a scooter ( vidar)

And a Stella

Too many ships cost too much

At ops 15 you can be attacked

[grim thistle]

i kinda like the acid trip mu background now - growing on me

[slow isle]

How many points do you in the meta event? according to the calendar there was MU hostile kill event as well, don't remember doing that...

[silver parcel]

what you should look like without today's

the MU was swapped for gorn yesterday

[slow isle]

thx for your answer

[grim thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/william-shatner-video-games-playing-alien-captain-kirk-gif-16249139

[slow isle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-gorn-mike-stoklasa-red-letter-media-half-in-the-bag-episode64-gif-11985031

[hybrid slate]

Spunky it is very possible to do it. I did it in 4 days

[snow raven]

It is highly doable.

[rigid orchid]

Arena starting tomorrow and what detailed information have we had from Scopley?? Nothing as usual, really is pathetic for a supposedly professional organisation. The majority of your customers DO NOT watch any of the content creators

[civic geyser]

Can you speak for those majority

[boreal oasis]

better communication is important

[rigid otter]

AfterN(o)(o)N group, how's the therapy coming ???

... meanwhile, Bach @ the phARM, Whatt's IT mean when this happens ???

Ja'loja

[tranquil ravine]

How do I get grade 2 resources

[twilit lintel]

anyone know where in the research tree can i upgrade my mining speed?

[frank pike]

Depending on ops/r&d level, just about every tree

[tepid lotus]

Go to stfc.space and research, then search for mining as well as the three resources. There's not much research on overall mining speed. It's specific to each of the three resources.

There are also favors in the Bajoran store as well as forbidden tech and artifacts.

[split quarry]

Arena is 3-4 hours again today?

[dull mason]

Mainly galaxy, and I looked the other day One in Exborg
Don't forget The correct Miner for the mat's, and faction miner's
Also the Exocomps

[grim thistle]

low end leftover mission? probably easiest to dump the miner in a low system

i got a bunch of mine low level thing missions i havent gotten around to finishing yet

[dull mason]

Definitely dump horizons on 2* 🤣

[red stag]

Guys any clue if all,the unstable discoveries sms are needed to finish meta or if there is possibility to miss at least one?

[silver parcel]

Each event is worth 100 points, there are 20 events needed to complete the meta. There are 23 events you can do ops 10-39 and 23 events you can do 40+ So you can afford to miss 3 of them and still complete the meta.

[warm pivot]

but we`ve seen benevolence when it comes to long meta events before... + hurricane impact... chances are good thou

[eternal crypt]

Hi

Wtf?

[tame galleon]

any plans on fixing mu waves? its been days......

[silver parcel]

tuesday

[eternal crypt]

I can't put a miner on any mine

[jaunty wren]

Any fantasy teams here with cowboys on it today? Cuz man did they get whooped

[frank pike]

I drafted Gandalf, Drizzt, and a Dragonborn. Think I’m doing pretty well, but I haven’t checked lineups in a while 🤷🏽‍♂️

[rotund isle]

Warp times must be terrible if scopely are selling these travel vouchers…..

[frank pike]

Mind the pack

[dull mason]

The voice of bloke Who says - mind the Gap was replaced year's ago
But it was brought back,
And now his daughter can hear her Dad again...

[brave ore]

the countdown is over! Arenas begin in less than 24 hours! This is your last chance to get the scoop on the strategy, crewing, ships, and scoring for the big day! Short sweet and to the point, Talking Trek gives you all you need to know on Arenas!

https://discord.gg/TalkingTrek
https://www.twitch.tv/ultimatdjz

[boreal oasis]

the need to make information about this game a treasure hunt will always baffle me

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/terminalmontage-monster-hunter-world-map-gif-26186191

https://tenor.com/view/sa-skull-and-bone-skull-and-bone-star-atlas-pirate-sa-pirate-gif-26033657

[split quarry]

Is anyone able to confirm length of arena run?

[silver parcel]

afaik, 24 hours from start

[sly canyon]

Is val still w your?

[split quarry]

Thank goodness from that. The staggered start scared me 🤣 4pm on a Monday was a worry haha

[ornate skiff]

We need to merge all servers into one giant server, that way there’s way more to do and i5 will serve us better.

How can we petition scopely to merge us all?

[twin spoke]

If eve online can do it for 20 years.....

[ornate skiff]

I’m from an old server and it’s boring and distasteful at this point

We need chaos

We need villains

We need personality clashes and conflict

Scopely, I hereby declare a vote to merge servers

Everybody from all servers - please write to scopely and request we do a massive merger of servers. We can only do this if we work together and let our voices be heard

[silver parcel]

How to completely destroy a game 101

[blazing spindle]

Be the change you want to see

[reef pilot]

discontinue using ROE. you'll get all of that and much much more 😄

[reef pilot]

at this point i want to say Careful what you ask for 😄 you might not like what you get 😄

[ornate skiff]

I prefer dangerous freedom in a giant server than quiet enslavement in a tiny server

And I know there are millions of players out there who feel the same way

[kind patrol]

https://youtu.be/sc3KJQ-408w

[late elk]

can i be bothered catching up on 6 months of stuff i missed

zzZZzz

[ornate skiff]

Very informative ender thank you

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/citation-needed-citation-science-research-sceptic-gif-13766454277905889094

[ember ginkgo]

Quick and fun or slow and boring?

Dogpile or buy this pack to crash the servers, don’t worry we’ll fix it later

[silver parcel]

When you want to upgrade the burning dumpster to a GBU-43/B

[ember ginkgo]

Will they be on tomorrow for support regularly or holiday staffing?

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/one-never-knows-what-may-happen-catherine-ohara-moira-moira-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20762473

We are currently at "locate your helmet" threat level. It may be upgraded to "put on your helmet" or "get a second helmet"

we'll see how it goes

[abstract fiber]

Huh?

[silver parcel]

daily goal switch, always causes issues logging in, dailies registering, opening chests, et cetera

around this time

[abstract fiber]

Never got that message before... A little lag, sure, but that?

[silver parcel]

pretty common at this time if you're trying to log in

[proven quail]

If i had to pick one to get, and only one, which of the 3 between Vindicator, NX-01, & NSEA should i get? PvP pirate here

[idle cipher]

cheers scopely i got a threat was detected with prime.exe now i can not get star trek to load at all ad even when i tried to repair it said the repair failed

[silver parcel]

Due to the unity update with the new arc, some antivirus softwares are flagging the exe, it's a false positive. Add an exception for it.

[silver parcel]

depends, which commanders do you have?

[proven quail]

Sadly only 3: Kirk, Spock, Locutus

Working on Seven

[silver parcel]

vindicator will help you source seven, janeway, sloan and lorca.

[idle cipher]

cheers for the quick help weird when i been playing since yesterday need to sleep now

[proven quail]

Guess that answers that question lol

Ty

[silver parcel]

Takes a lot of effort to get it useful for armadas

But out of the gate, the commander sourcing is great

[proven quail]

What else is new

[silver parcel]

and the officer sourcing

every thursday will be an event to get the currency for the refinery, the event will give you enough to do all 3 boxes once a day for the week until the next event

nsea can be sourced through the invasion store faster than previous free to play drips for new ships

nx you got the end of arc store and the ex borg store if you can do the regular xindi

[late elk]

oh awesome

thanks ars

Is the event easy to do?

[silver parcel]

doing dominion solos, fkr group armadas and fkr g6 solo armadas

[late elk]

ah cool. cheers

[silver parcel]

lower brackets have it easier

[late elk]

56?

[silver parcel]

dominion solos and fkr armadas

[late elk]

i have 2 56 ships so ill be fine i guess

[silver parcel]

and it's kill not start, so you can tag along with people in your alliance

[late elk]

oh thats handy

[humble orbit]

You should plan for it to run for 8h.

[split quarry]

Yep. Will attempt to make it fit with work and kids. 🤪 hopefully they can vary run times

Ta 🖖

[humble orbit]

We've requested a longer duration, but I suspect matchmaking will struggle at some hours. Forcing everyone to play in a smaller window might a better alternative than sitting in queue or being smashed by an unfair opponent.

[late elk]

https://tenor.com/view/mdr-gif-18285088358737753438

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-mask-robin-gif-2620599489105382922

[silver parcel]

So it's only 8 hours?

[split quarry]

Agreed, just the window needs to vary a little I’d say. See what happens ☺️

[split quarry]

HE’s BACK!

[late elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ahhh-scream-excited-gif-5739192

[warm pivot]

yeah, monday 12 am is the perfect time for my timezone to waste 6 of those 8 hours... even worse for britains and spain

[wispy token]

We Have 1 of our total g5/g6's online....perfect.Not that our ops70 can join at all anyway.🤷

[split quarry]

Do better 🙃🤣

[wispy token]

I should totes get our US and EU players to move to oz

[split quarry]

Beautiful country, everything we have wants to kill someone 🤪🤣🤣

[coral notch]

Are there any new codes other than TRILL1 and TRILL2?

[silver parcel]

no

[reef pilot]

this game is filled with nothing but Unfair opponent's if you aren't use to that by now. you're playing the wrong game.

[warm pivot]

people who lack common sense will always queue up in the middle of the night or at noon... oh i forgot... at noon it starts here! NO game has good matchmaking outside of primetimehours

[queen jolt]

Good morning peeps! Just checking in hows our APAC arena situation?

[reef pilot]

lauches in 13h for me i'll let you know then 😄

if scopely doesn't push it back 4 day's again.. 😄

[hazy atlas]

So after getting these repairs aren't free in the arena as they wrote before at all

[humble orbit]

The nature of strength-based matchmaking is that as the field settles, the matches will become fairer and fairer. Those p2w folks will filter themselves up to the top of the ladder, and f2p will filter down.

[humble orbit]

The repairs are free, they autorepair in 2m. The tokens are for instant repairs.

[spiral karma]

I know your focus is on new content and all that, but any chance of fixing MU waves sometime soon

[humble orbit]

Use them if you want a tactical advantage.

[reef pilot]

such a fair system. yep totally worth the time and energy to do this.. cause scopely doesn't already know who's a p2w and a f2p person. they couldn't just filter it and put p2w against each other and f2p against each other. cause being actually fair about it isn't in scopely's wheelhouse at all.

[silver parcel]

launch gift

[minor furnace]

Free stuff?

[silver parcel]

Those under 40 do not receive it

[minor furnace]

Might as well since the majority of us will now deal with the growing pains of strategy

There might be brain rot

[late elk]

how do u even start an arena match

[silver parcel]

click the alliance button, then arena button

[humble orbit]

Alliance button > Arena > form a team to enter the queue.

[silver parcel]

should be a spot there

[late elk]

ah not in an alliance yet thats why

kukukukuku

[full arch]

Arena is the latest way Scopely has come up with to alienate at least half the players, if not more. Should not be limited to level 40 and above, and should be able to enter arena with less than 5 alliance members. My alliance only has 3 members at level 40 or above. Very annoying Scopely! 😡 Certainly wish I knew this before I paid for the Vindicator......Grrrrrrr.

[warm mesa]

In solo Aramada, does every officer I have that has a loot reward bonus stack? Or just one?

[humble orbit]

Every ship is apportioned loot according to its power. Then each ship's share is modified by all the loot bonuses it has. All the loot is added up after that and put into your inventory.

[warm pivot]

and yes, sometimes it can be beneficial to only use 2 ships instead of all 3

[warm mesa]

That is interesting

[humble orbit]

And for some armadas (shipyards) it makes sense to use more ships so that you don't fill up quickly and have to return home.

[fluid shore]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-yawn-gif-23574939

Waking up to another beautiful day of unfixed MU Wave Defense 😃

[warm mesa]

thanks candle and purge!

[silver parcel]

fix for that is tuesday

[queen jolt]

for later #1295263579511197726 #💣-arena-feedback

https://tenor.com/view/gladiator-russell-crowe-maximus-decimus-gif-21157775

[warm pivot]

any info on runtime? really only 8h?

[silver parcel]

8

from apac's start

sierra confirmed it

[warm pivot]

apac already had 4 hours on thursday

maybe? ^^

[silver parcel]

No, sierra confirmed 8 hours for all 3 servers

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-desire-tom-ellis-lucifer-morningstar-lucifer-what-do-you-want-gif-17379903

[warm pivot]

12h minimum

dude, britains will come home from work at 6pm their time and only have 1h to arena

[near bloom]

What is this “coming home from work” you speak of?

[warm pivot]

whales excluded ^^

[near bloom]

Hey, I’m not a whale!

[warm pivot]

average joe works a 9 to 5 and need at least 1 hours till their downtime ^^

[warm pivot]

you start cooking at 10 am, clearly your not normal xD

[near bloom]

Some days I start cooking at 5am 😂

[warm pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-breaking-bad-hoodie-gif-13536614

would explain the "not coming home" xD

[lone yew]

I see none of the feedback about matching and lag was taken onboard

[near bloom]

Matching; data needs maturity. There is very little “fixing” a lack of data other than to gather data.

[vague gull]

That implies the only constraint for bad match making is the MMR and not the stupid +/-7 constraint that still matches you outside that banding

[lone yew]

G6 v g4/5 should have been no match at all.

[vague gull]

A banding of 53-64 should never be versing 70s

[foggy ferry]

Using Ops instead of strength as a metric is crazy.

[lone yew]

Sms isn't updating either.

[gray lintel]

So promised it will run for 24hrs, now down to 8 hours on a work day... And starts after you in work, finishes at end of shift... And yet arena events not even live until after it finishes... When arena will be closed for EU. But sure it's fine for us servers their arena doesn't start till after event reset...
Are they serious?

How is apac doing there's should already have started.

[vague gull]

APAC started at 3pm which is during work/commute home

[gray lintel]

Yet arena events scheduled start at event reset... Later today.... Rely on playing arena.... Are they live now during apac arena... Or they gonna have to do arena events while arena is closed?

[warm pivot]

EU starts at CET 12 AM... 3 pm would be great from my perspective

[gray lintel]

Not live yet on EU still got prep events, arena events would start after.... Ie. When arena is closed.. For EU and apac,

[late elk]

ugh

[rotund isle]

APAC running from 4pm (AEST) to 12 midnight and on currently

[late elk]

dont start with a leader thats higher than 53, or u will face enemy 60s

unless u have ur own 60s of course

[gray lintel]

But are the events for arena running ie the slb and sms scheduled for event reset... Later tpday

[rotund isle]

Will check…

[gray lintel]

Cos if they not how you doing them when arena closes

[silver parcel]

these start when your arena starts

there's on event that ends at reset

the meta doesn't end yet

[gray lintel]

So they started OK...

[near bloom]

Exactly

Hey Simpy!

What you doing round these parts?

[gray lintel]

Wasn't any announcement saying they cut it to 8 hours gonna be lot of unhappy people

[rotund isle]

Yep started and timed for the duration of arena only

[devout herald]

This is 💩 being only 8 hours, do they want me and my alliance to stay up between midnight and 1am 2am, 3am??? This just made it DOA for me.

[late elk]

Heya harm.

[gray lintel]

OK ty

[late elk]

Just started playing again for some reason idk

😂

[devout herald]

Because I’m in New Zealand on an EU server the time is 11pm-7am

Half my alliance can’t or won’t participate cos of that time

[late elk]

ouch

thats what u get being on a wrong timezone server to be fiar

😛

[gray lintel]

Will pass along but already some people will miss out cos of work

[devout herald]

Heck 1/3-1/2 my server can’t

[devout herald]

That’s not my fault

We started playing this game before most people on here even knew what the game was

[iron steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/i-blame-you-your-fault-points-finger-this-is-your-fault-gif-7626980

[devout herald]

Heck before this ‘official’ discord even existed

[iron steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/so-official-wow-for-real-serious-bailey-gismert-gif-15425235

[oak basin]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[fluid shore]

Is this reliable info? Proper documentation and transparency aren't their strong suit after all.
Appreciate your response.

[silver parcel]

That's the date i was given by a cm

[iron steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/my-source-is-when-the-source-is-reliable-reliable-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-gif-27116155

[near bloom]

Did someone need sauce?

[fluid shore]

Sarcastic me was about to say that's not an answer to my question 🤣

[near bloom]

It’s as close to an announcement as you’re going to get 🙂

[iron steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-leonardo-close-enough-almost-good-enough-gif-26288238

[devout herald]

This arena event duration is 💩 and NEEDS to change if they ever want this to be a success, because people will not be able to participate with the current timing

What’s WORSE is the fact there was no information about the length of the events, we had to wait until til APAC started theirs to k ow what was happening

[near bloom]

I dislike the event duration/timing and I have written that down in capitals at the top of my list of things to politely ask for change on 😂

[iron steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-conspiracy-time-tin-foil-hat-gif-20017112

[silver parcel]

the mods and the cms have brought the concerns about the arena to scopely, pretty sure they all agree with the issues as well

But it's not up to them

[foggy ferry]

Nearly 2 hours in and haven't been able to get a single game with an alliance of 80. The timing and ops restrctions need fixing.

[quasi ember]

anyone else in apac been lagging like the 12+ hours?

[vague gull]

These were all concerns bought up in the APAC test run that they will fully ignored

[late elk]

perhaps they will rotate the time

[warm pivot]

and arena is confirmed 40+ only? not opening a team as 40 and inviting 33+?

[silver parcel]

40+ only

[foggy ferry]

Yes, 40+ only.

[warm pivot]

ty

[civic geyser]

40 is also probably the amount of people that will actually get to play 😬

[warm pivot]

i intentionally stopped ops pushing at 47 yesterday, could be 49 by now 🤪

[silver parcel]

i could be 64, but held off because of the banding

but given how short the run is, may not make a difference

people working at odd hours and time zones

[warm pivot]

i will just invite whoever is online and replace the second they go off xD

[gray lintel]

What gets me is Sierra announced yesterday yet failed to mention the duration of it... Strange the very important detail.

Apac test had days b4 knowing it was a limited 3hour test...
Just goes to show they have no idea...

[solid plinth]

Now question, most people will be setting up for mining Monday today. When joining arena does it pull all your ships home ? When the area is finished will your ships be where they were before you. Joined arena

[silver parcel]

It pulls your ships back, and you lose the cargo

Acts like an incursion crossover

So before starting a team, recall your ships

[solid plinth]

That’s what I thought

[vague gull]

Oh I didn't know you lost your cargo, that's a nice touch

[lone yew]

Sms points still not adding right

Lag is worse somehow

[near bloom]

This is the other side of the “fix balancing” argument. Would you rather lose and get those points or not play at all?

Genuine question.

Obviously we’d all rather a battle we’ve a chance of winning over all but when that isn’t on the table do people really want to sit there and time out in lobbies instead 🙂

[faint vessel]

surely the timing re: players being afk at work, in a different timezone etc thing should have been considered, in the first instance design stage? i mean it's what stops the "forced" pvp events in the normal game. if players arent able to be on at event reset, they literally have to "fudge" the pvp with somene willing to help. Please dont even think about flash events again LOL

[civic geyser]

At least I won’t be short of mining nodes

[near bloom]

Wait is that still a thing? 🤣

[gray lintel]

Pulls ships home, does not reward pts for events and cargo lost. after your ships are still in dock

[fierce fossil]

guess thats an extra feature to do it on mining monday 🤣

[near bloom]

Y’all said mining Monday was rubbish!

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-3580667

[warm pivot]

it is... at least for 40+ imo

[vocal rock]

Are the entries unlimited to the arena?

[silver parcel]

yes

can enter as many times as you want within the 8 hour window

doesn't cost anything to enter

repairs are free, but take 2 minutes, or use the repair tokens that they sent 2k of, i'm sure there will be packs on the store to accommodate those with an affinity for exploding their ships.

[vocal rock]

thank you

[quasi ember]

this arena just causes region wide lag, not a fan.

[faint vessel]

it is rubbish, however they chose to design something more rubbish

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-tedlassogifs-jason-sudeikis-1x02-hold-my-beer-gif-20724542

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-rubbish-rubbish-harry-potter-james-and-oliver-phelps-gif-15404254

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/rubbish-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-trash-you-suck-gif-5495325

has the bike arrived yet HD ? 🤔

[near bloom]

Saturday night 😂

[livid shell]

What’s broken now ?

[near bloom]

A few people’s souls

Nothing interesting

[livid shell]

No hearts ?

So the new arenas are done in a separate container ? Is that why there’s a 10min window to boot the container ?

[silver parcel]

seems so wrong to get this as the last 4* explorer reward for q trials

[faint vessel]

i meant the bike with 2 wheels and 🛎️ 🙈

[vague gull]

It is any it isn’t. The whip payouts have been screwing me so I still haven’t gotten a second rare FT from the refinery yet 😅

[civic geyser]

I feel sorry for you I still haven’t even got my first one yet

[near bloom]

So did I! 🤣

[silver parcel]

wish it'd stop giving me rares

Only thing i look forward to in the whip refinery is more bells

[near bloom]

Can I have them?

[near bloom]

Loads of them on here

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

Oh come on UnhappyGramp, it was right there for the taking 🤣

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-summoning-bad-cat-hitting-broom-gif-10352523

https://imgflip.com/i/96m640

[vagrant vapor]

wait! arena is 8h window only?

[silver parcel]

yes

[warm pivot]

congratulation, you got the memo
sry for bad mood, its only 8h thou

[vagrant vapor]

ouch, starts 12 for me, goes on to 20:00, on a day where i work till 18:00, and then have to get the kids into bed

i am screwed

[faint vessel]

flash events strike again

[vagrant vapor]

i really thought it was a 24h event

[signal cloak]

https://stfc.pro/arr <-- data is coming in, so people started to do some on APAC 🙂

[faint vessel]

Do scopely really think we're still in lockdown unable to leave the house? 🤔

[vagrant vapor]

there will never be a day where i won't appreciate some sarcasm, no need to be sorry for that

[signal cloak]

at least 968 people played it in the first few hours of APAC time

[faint vessel]

are there that many on the servers?

[signal cloak]

oh yes APAC isn't that small actually

[warm pivot]

do we have a chart with ranking to rank? bronze 1, silver 2, etc.

[faint vessel]

ah so it's not just the merged alpha/beta test "founders" servers then ? 🤔

[signal cloak]

@warm pivot : not yet

201 has almost 4k active players alone, apac totals about 14k players

[warm pivot]

keep up the great work, i love your data. honestly

[signal cloak]

Thanks!

[vague gull]

Regions are only a concept to scopely

[signal cloak]

what do you mean by that?

[faint vessel]

where are the buckets located?

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-matron-kenneth-williams-what-gif-14248386

[quasi ember]

no one fights in territory, no one fights in incursions, i know, lets make arenas.

[near bloom]

It’s a great idea.

Nobody fights in territory because you have to live with the people you fight with and tensions break servers.

[signal cloak]

it seems to work 🙂 Well, at least APAC for now 😉

[faint vessel]

and this is the 2nd time they've tried arenas 🙈

[signal cloak]

in a bit over an hr, EU is gonna do it too

[near bloom]

Nobody fights in incursions because it’s just a raiding event.

[signal cloak]

curious to how the stats will look like

[deft niche]

11am for just 8 hours? Do scopely think we dont work or something? 🤦‍♂️

[near bloom]

This is great because if you lose, you don’t really lose.

[quasi ember]

i'm losing time because of all the lag on the server

[faint vessel]

maybe they should have stalled the 2nd try at arenas...... 3rd time a jem?

i dread to experience how bad the alpha/beta "cancelled" first armada mechanic was. end result... so bad they went back to the drawing board

[bitter jolt]

brb, just you know, booking the day off work to participate in Scopely's next level thinking pvp arena event, scheduled during the EU working day.

[faint vessel]

they're doomed whenever they run it, as a lot work weekends aswell

[late elk]

they should delete all events

then no one can complain

[topaz creek]

When you arrive at work, rub your stomach & groan repeatedly. When colleagues ask, claim that you have gastric distress. That way you can make regular bathroom breaks to play arenas without arousing suspicion. You're welcome. 😁

[faint vessel]

i'm all for trying new things, but to ignore feedback from current/historic events that have been mehh?

[bitter jolt]

which is why limited time events that don't last the full 24h are an incredibly bad idea.

At least if the events run for 24h 90%+ people have a chance to try them.

[muted cape]

No one fights as incursions relies heavily on players not playing the game correctly for example forgetting to shield

[faint vessel]

were you playing when they tried "flash events"? if i remember correctly, they were literally the mostly badly received thing they've tried

[bitter jolt]

Yup, and they don't learn from their previous mistakes

[faint vessel]

or a whale gets annoyed with their instance and "throws a hissy"

[drowsy timber]

Arenas SUCK

[gray lintel]

Well if its thanksgiving today I doubt we will see anyone till tuesday

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/dubsado-coffee-time-coffee-jake-gif-18478942

[muted cape]

🤔 your EU their is no such thing. Also it’s the 28th nov

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/georgetakei-ohmy-scandal-innuendo-sexy-gif-4591493

[faint vessel]

Historically, the game is more knackered near/during/after St. Patricks day 🙈

[near bloom]

Exactly. It’s PvAFK

[drowsy timber]

How is the match making working for arenas? Doesn’t seem accurate

[near bloom]

Starts at ops, adds your arena ranks in to the mix.

[gray lintel]

It's thanksgiving somewhere am sure... Maybe canada

[faint vessel]

redis matchmaking? 🤔

[drowsy timber]

Yeah nah… lvl 40s vs lvl 60s?! 😅😅😅 typical Scopley BS

[civic geyser]

Do you want a shovel so you can keep digging

[near bloom]

Given that a good 39 with PvP crews can give a runaround to Lv46 who haven’t got any of them and have only done PvE, it’s not ideal but focusing on rank over time as the data matures will improve those.

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-good-question-brandon-james-the-ms-pat-show-thats-a-nice-question-thats-an-interesting-question-gif-25259234

I now see why hammy answered my question this 👆

[near bloom]

How is that based on ops?

[silver parcel]

You're not going to see 40s vs 60s.

[near bloom]

I saw someone mention about the starter being a fairly key one, if you’ve had your big start the event and someone else has had their small, I’ll be interested to know if that has an impact on matchmaking.

[drowsy timber]

It’s broken…. Not all alliances are going to finish the events. …

[silver parcel]

No argument there

[near bloom]

Broken is a great word. It tells me everything I could possibly need to know 😂

What do you mean “broken”?

[silver parcel]

Like your bike

:p

[near bloom]

Not broken, it has design features I have to engineer out of it 🤣

[silver parcel]

LOOOOOL

Gave myself brainfreeze on that one

[drowsy timber]

Do your own research and testing then…
I think it’s very self explanatory….
Lvl 40 players vs lvl 60 players????

[silver parcel]

was eating a frozen coke and rum slushie

[faint vessel]

#1293118590135832650 message

[near bloom]

I can’t, but as you won’t help yourself I’m going to save myself the trouble of helping you 🙂

[near bloom]

Exactly. Interested to find out.

If anyone at any point has any issues and wishes to explore them past “broken” I’m more than happy to help and work through what you’re seeing.

[faint vessel]

not sure how the matchmaking will take into account all the variables 😕

[drowsy timber]

Let’s look at this injustice for example

[near bloom]

Indeed, and it’s going to take time for what should be the primary data point - “arena rank” - to mature to the extent that it can be seen as reliable.

[drowsy timber]

How is the other side got ANY chance in defeating or scoring points?

[near bloom]

Cool. Take the win, move on. The more people do, the more the arena rank normalises and the more these examples will be the outlier.

[drowsy timber]

I didn’t get to screenshot the other round with lvl 60s… but seems like proper testing and balancing needs to be considered before launching arenas and having an event on to score points…

[warm pivot]

thats a quick 400 credits
you gotta see it positive, when overwhelmed just quit and save time instead of stretching out the inevitable.

[faint vessel]

how is the stability/lag when in the arena? no one is mentioning this

[drowsy timber]

Take the win…. It’s not actual gameplay at all… what’s the point in even starting it? Just call it a win without even starting to countdown then? Stop wasting time???

[near bloom]

The first match of a brand new release of Call of Duty and I can end up on a game with aBeZy, and I’ll get my backside handed to me.

[faint vessel]

i've not seen any burning Commercial Blue Biffa Bins floating down the River Stour

[drowsy timber]

The lag is terrible too… the only good part is the vibration to let you know it’s starting or whatever…

[near bloom]

The point in starting it is it helps to bring those arena ranks to the right places.

[near bloom]

The point in starting it is it helps to bring those arena ranks to the right places.

[faint vessel]

oooh so the vibrate notifications wasnt a jokey thing? hahaha

[civic geyser]

Stop spamming

[near bloom]

It can’t just SWAG it, even Ops is a terrible starting point because it doesn’t work properly.

[warm pivot]

who is this adressed at? 🤣

[near bloom]

Connection farted 😂

[civic geyser]

He knows 🤣

[faint vessel]

i'm being good *for once still a moaning kitty though

[warm pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-emh-doctor-take-away-pull-back-gif-26124409

[near bloom]

The other side of this is there’s event loot at stake here, and like Vidar PvP events and Realta PvP events where you don’t have the meta crew, you just march to your repeated defeat until you’ve finished.

[faint vessel]

kobyashi maru

[near bloom]

At least in this instance repeatedly marching to your defeat pushes those players who are bigger/better/more powerful up the ranks so you’ll see them less.

[minor furnace]

And be called a bronze noob

[faint vessel]

the spenders will still appear and bite us on the backside 🙈

[near bloom]

So no, I emphatically disagree that there’s no point starting it and if I’m permitted to participate in future by being allowed to ascend I’ll go and do my duty and lose as many times as necessary to drag myself to the right ranking and continue to earn the prizes as I do it.

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[minor furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-bicep-muscles-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10817666

[near bloom]

Crying like a toddler because Scopely should have a magic algorithm that establishes whether you have PvP crews, whether you know how to use them and whether your ships are the right tiers for your ops level etc… just do the hari kari thing and it’ll be over within a run or two 🤣

Christ knows I love Dark but if you didn’t tell him which officers to put where for stuff he just went around doing his own thing. Fine on 168 where he just had ships that made crew irrelevant, not so in here where there are whales with the ships and the crew and know how to use them.

[faint vessel]

they have algorithms...... via redis matchmaking. it's somewhat weighted by ingame spend 🙈

i wouldn't expect anything less

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-dummy-umm-word-meaning-gif-17203793

[faint vessel]

they dont use that tech ?

[silver parcel]

got a guy saying there's only one other group in his range, so he's been up against 70s, queuing and then afking, lol

[near bloom]

That isn’t a tech 🤣

[faint vessel]

https://redis.io/resources/the-game-developers-guide-to-matchmaking/

[near bloom]

Matchmaking with Redis Enterprise

You should read it.

[round ember]

Scopely should read it

[faint vessel]

could i have a carepack for the fee? 😛

[near bloom]

Redis Enterprise is not Redis Matchmaking, because there is no such thing.

It’s like pulling out a car review called “Driving to work with Ford Mustang”, and then waving it around talking about Mustangs driving you to work 😂

Redis does what you tell it to. Although after some of the issues I’m sure the developers would argue that occasionally it does not do what you tell it to 🤣

[signal cloak]

true lol

[near bloom]

However it does not “do” matchmaking.

You store all your doodads and run stuff against it to do matchmaking.

Just like for the most part Mustangs do what you tell them to.

Except when there’s a corner, a camera phone and a kerb.

[warm pivot]

tell excel to be a database ^^

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[signal cloak]

it was my database for a huge time.. until i went over 100k records.. then i decided something else would be more efficient lol

[near bloom]

Worse, people that decided that they should graduate from Excel to MS Access 🤣

[signal cloak]

and then there was the website lol

[near bloom]

No, you graduate straight to SQLExpress. Because at least there’s an escape from SQLExpress 🤣

“My Access database is corrupt, can you help?” Nope.

“Don’t you support Access?” “Yes. Does it run? Cool. Sounds like you need to get whoever built the database to have a look”

“They left the company five years ago”

[warm pivot]

is access still a thing? has been ages since i switched to open source software

[near bloom]

I don’t know, I’m old 🤣

[foggy parrot]

I have been yelled at for sending escapes into database UIs 👀

[signal cloak]

oh yeah, some legacy corporate entities still are using it

and indeed all valid points HD

[warm pivot]

they teached me in school, 30 years ago how to set a primary databasekey xD

[signal cloak]

that's still valid for most SQL databases though 🙂

the syntax didnt really change much at all

[near bloom]

I got taught soft IT skills in school, I was the first generation that got taught ICT instead of IT.

“Yeah, dead excited to do IT! I’m gonna learn all sorts of awesome stuff!”
“Today kids we’re going to learn how to format a letter in Microsoft Word”

[analog fable]

you mean you didnt learn geocities at school? 🤣

[warm pivot]

visual basic ❤️

[near bloom]

I learned how to hack a Netware network and change all the desktop backgrounds and screensavers 🤣

[faint vessel]

snap .....bacon screensaver and background. The secondary school network had a AcornServer...... 🙈

[near bloom]

I also learned how to cover my tracks after the first time getting caught 🤣

I changed everyone’s homepage to Badger Badger Badger.

That was funny 🤣

Well, all the kids thought so.

[faint vessel]

two words which should never exist in computing with kids

[near bloom]

The incandescent IT tech did not agree with our humour.

[faint vessel]

[AcornServer]

[mortal elk]

you're not meant to chew the bike... 😐

[warm pivot]

thats probably why they stopped teaching that and now focus on word instead ^^

[faint vessel]

they might have enjoyed it

[mortal elk]

I learned geocities after school... school wasn't that advanced at the time 🤣

[near bloom]

I did it cos I was bored while they were teaching the kids - who couldn’t count to potato - how to use Word.

[round ember]

I wasn't even aware of geocities when I was in school. it was only the rich kids who had the internet

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosandcomics-im-in-this-photo-i-like-it-im-in-this-photo-and-i-like-it-dino-gif-19592145

Dual ISDN here.

[faint vessel]

no a5000's ? 🤔

[near bloom]

🤣

[silver parcel]

Was rocking net zero and call wave and the only kid on the block with a cd burner.

[minor furnace]

and a zip drive 🙃

[analog fable]

oh yeh we were rocking supe fast 56k instead of the poor kids 28k modems 😎

[mortal elk]

AOL Coasters ftw

[round ember]

We had some, but they weren't connected

[near bloom]

I had a Jaz drive

[silver parcel]

AOL throwing stars

[minor furnace]

Man.. I never had a chance to see one of those

[faint vessel]

class was potentially up the creek, if you crashed the jerry-rigged RISCOS a5000 running the printer

[silver parcel]

Managed to get myself banned off AOL. 🤣

[near bloom]

It was like a Zip drive, but green, chunkier, and more annoying.

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/segundo-sol-novela-remy-vladimir-brichta-chocado-gif-12304506

[silver parcel]

Because i used the blue screen of death trick on too many chatrooms

[round ember]

I still have my zip drive. Ironically, I never got many disks for it, because by the time I could afford more than a couple, I had a CD burner and could get cds for pennies

[near bloom]

ICQ was where it was at

[minor furnace]

At least this talk is keeping me off all the stuff I read recently about the Game Freak leaks.

[mortal elk]

"How do I do xyz?"

Chat fills with Alt-F4, win-Q, etc etc etc 🤣

[near bloom]

Shouldn’t you be Arenaing?

[minor furnace]

Not for another 30 minutes buddy

[near bloom]

Ahhh k

[minor furnace]

I am in an EU server.

[silver parcel]

If a user had their chatroom sounds turned on, you could insert a code that appeared as }pre /con/con

[faint vessel]

and people take the micky out of my language/grammar? 😛

[silver parcel]

and it would crash their computer

[minor furnace]

I am just giving the ol to some ruined lore by Game Freak

[near bloom]

Yep 🤣

[silver parcel]

played a non existent sound and the OS couldn't handle it

[minor furnace]

Gonna go and cook some food before the arena stuff begins

[near bloom]

Whatcha cookin?

Where stream?

[minor furnace]

Ribeye.

[near bloom]

Where mine?

[minor furnace]

I don't have wireless cameras, but not a bad idea

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pussinboots-adventuresofpussinboots-puss-milk-drink-gif-12409694

[devout herald]

https://tenor.com/view/winners-chapel-announcement-downsign-lfc-ekenwan-gif-20489762

[near bloom]

Just do what I did. Drag an entire studio into the kitchen 🤣

[faint vessel]

greetings ex- "founders" server @devout herald

[near bloom]

No poops!

@queen jolt Gz on no poops!

[devout herald]

It's my party I'll poop if i want to 😄

😄

[faint vessel]

are they asleep due to timezone?

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-good-poop-dog-pat-back-girl-gif-17007772

[devout herald]

it's 10:42pm, and im just halfway through dinner, its been a long work day

[faint vessel]

i hope they bring back the apac-test's

[mortal elk]

The printer server login was an open secret in my highschool, passed down from year to year as new people started

[faint vessel]

why did they get rid of them 4+ years ago?

[mortal elk]

which wouldn't have been a bad thing, except it was set up with network admin rights 🤣

[queen jolt]

am I dreaming?

[sage falcon]

Awesome match making by scoply. In apac

[silver parcel]

the computer lab teacher put me in charge of security after I got his login info, heh

[faint vessel]

not sure are you dreaming? i'm lagging

[near bloom]

There’s a dog pooping gif, so probably.

[silver parcel]

Napster, kazaa, limewire. Was playing d2 during class.

[faint vessel]

discord even corrected that for me

[near bloom]

Limewire ❤️🤣

Did you want a virus or some music?

Music?

Dang, sorry cuz, all we got is virus.

[queen jolt]

The matchmaking mechanics are the same for every region. That said, we are reviewing your feedback.

[mortal elk]

did you want some music with that virus* 🤣

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/llama-what-lama-llame-what-oxx-gif-13150907

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-danger-shipwreck-gung-ho-gi-joe-a-real-american-hero-battle-on-the-roof-of-the-world-gif-17283674

[near bloom]

Unfortunately I think STFC players will be the downfall of Arenas.

[faint vessel]

oof wrong one

[drowsy timber]

Little too late tbh…
Especially those who will be unable to complete events due to the time allocations and the out balancing….

[drowsy timber]

Arenas will be the downfall of STFC

[faint vessel]

dont regret it 🙈 😹

[near bloom]

Very much disagree.

[silver parcel]

STFC will be the downfall of STFC

[drowsy timber]

You’d disagree with everything anyone had to say anyways. So there wasn’t a need in writing that. 😅

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-us-more-willy-wonka-sarcastic-listening-gif-7693497

[near bloom]

Not really, just sat and watched and commented on the playtest. Lotta people enjoyed it.

[analog fable]

any arena streams going on?

[silver parcel]

The mechanics are sound, the system is fun. The matchmaking is currently a joke.

[near bloom]

Not all of us are scared to get our ships blown up.

[mortal elk]

time frames and matchmaking need some work

[near bloom]

The problem is people want perfect matches and now.

[humble orbit]

Ships blowing up don't even matter here, it's all repaired, for free.

[mortal elk]

this seems in poor taste?

[near bloom]

You can’t have perfect matches and near instant start.

[silver parcel]

I think some people would be happy with having any matches

lol

[dusky cove]

Who thought running the arena for 8 hours was a good idea?

[round ember]

I think most peoiple would be happy with a longer wait time if it meant fairer matches

[faint vessel]

matchmaking & timing is bad. flash events were hated and stopped. "forced pvp" - we have to do this by message to complete the usual events. @round ember knows i sometimes oblige

[near bloom]

And yet they still cry that they “lost” (didn’t gain as much as the other team)

[queen jolt]

I need a rematch with DJ, HD

[round ember]

Obviously there's a balance to be had, but Scopely have continuously erred away from what's fair, where PvP is concerned

[devout herald]

good luck matchmaking when half my alliance in EU server is asleep cos it is starting at 11PM and goes till 7am... It wouldnt be an issue if it wasnt only 8 hours

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/dudu-bubu-bubu-dudu-dudu-run-dudu-running-bubu-attack-gif-8423131164250366515

[near bloom]

Well the issue there is “where acceptable starts”

I went on to Titanfall the other day to play a match. Sat waiting for matchmaking for 25 minutes.

[drowsy timber]

Here we go… always on the defensive…

[near bloom]

Seems a reasonable wait for STFC 🤣

[mortal elk]

this isn't forced PVP though, it's not being forced on anyone... and it doesn't have the usual issues of dropped shields, random ship pops in random systems.. .any of that

[near bloom]

Sssh, we get it. You don’t like your ships being blown up, you don’t like blowing other people’s ships up, and yours is the only perspective that counts.

[faint vessel]

no..... but it's basic in game activity. you can be free to pay but miss when everyone else is online?

[mortal elk]

if the pixels exploding physically hurts, 1. just skip the new content. or 2. skip the game, becasue it's gonna happen one way or another 😂

[near bloom]

I don’t like how limited the window is to run these

[silver parcel]

The limited window is gonna hurt

[drowsy timber]

Your perspective is literally all that matters on this chat.
You disagree here, you correct people there. Just stop and read people’s feedback and concerns, rather than jamming your constant negativity against others.

[near bloom]

Different servers even in the same region seem to have different busy times.

[velvet gust]

This mechanic runs the risk of being DOA if the matchmaking continues to be this bad. How can this be engaging if you spend 10mins being destroyed by someone 3x your power.

[faint vessel]

BST in german alliance..... confuses

[round ember]

I mean yeah, 25 mins would be a stupid amount of time to wait, but like I said, there's a balance to be found, and Scopely doesn't seem to care about how fair the pvp is in this game, so they don't strive for a balance, they go for speed

[near bloom]

You cannot miss the irony of accusing someone of constant negativity when they’re explaining why - in the face of your constant negativity - the dataset needs time to mature? 🤣

[mortal elk]

I don't know whether it's an engineering concern, or because they want to crunch more people into a smaller window to ensure speedy matchups or what... but yeah, that feedback has been made and heard, but not in time for this run (they're looking into it...)

[devout herald]

matchmaking is because everyone is the same rank... 0
AS this runs more and people rank higher, the matchmaking will get better

[warm pivot]

is that 64 account all selfmade or did someone just gift a 61 to you? ^^

[dusky cove]

It'll be as popular as assaults, perhaps a bit more due to the faction store

[queen jolt]

Hey, EU peeps! There are 8 minutes left before the gates to the arena open. Let's use #1295263579511197726 for feedback/issues. thankyyy

[mortal elk]

you going to stop poking the green guys, or do you need help with that?

[near bloom]

That’s my fear. Spread it out over a whole day and you’ll have more Russian heavy servers sat there wanting matches at times that don’t work for more Western Europe servers.

[devout herald]

IF we get to be able to play,

[warm pivot]

the second they see the 8h limit will be fun ^^

[silver parcel]

I still remember the one time the assault event ran on my server, a little bit after I started playing and no one at the time had a starbase to participate. lol

[signal cloak]

Just a few more min for EU to start!

[faint vessel]

add me to the constant negativity

[signal cloak]

btw simpauly, you linked against a 'no access' channel ><

[velvet gust]

Just wish Terran credits/rep could be sourced in a logical additional place.....like MU!

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kraken-kid-release-kraken-clash-of-the-titan-gif-7523520

[dusky cove]

Player feedback: How daft is scopely to only run it for 8 hours and in the middle of the work day for many people?

[devout herald]

they are lucky or maybe unlucky the Americas cup is on, so thats why im still awake, NZ racing against Britannia starts in a couple hours

[faint vessel]

i cant win when i'm positive or not

[mortal elk]

go grab yourself the relevant regional role 😄

[signal cloak]

ooo woops

[queen jolt]

added EU role to you mat

[near bloom]

It’s the same with a lot of the PvP events in incursions, if you don’t join and complete the second it starts then you have to sit in GC begging for the other guy on the other server to come and kill trade.

So I kinda see why they did it, but at the same time I see it being a barrier.

[signal cloak]

can i have all roles? 🙂

[faint vessel]

maybe this is a scopely issue?

[signal cloak]

i'm not really just on 1 region.. 🙂

[dusky cove]

yet there is still that option, herd it's literally kick rocks depending on the time zone

[faint vessel]

not the "moaners"

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/prodigal-son-merit-badge-gif-20174118

nope

[silver parcel]

wonder if i should scrap my newton

[near bloom]

The problem then is you need to find a good match, in short time.

[signal cloak]

aww drats, so mean

[queen jolt]

Oh wait

[near bloom]

Given that you shouldn’t have built it, probably.

[queen jolt]

hmmm I guess we can do that chrono

what region do you need

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/all-the-things-hyperbole-and-a-half-do-all-the-things-excited-gif-16018689

[signal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-getit-dance-boogie-gif-195727820326679790

[spark lark]

Stuck leaving at 70%

[violet saffron]

On 168 I used to blow kos his ships on sight lol he couldn't handle it and quit playing

[signal cloak]

just add me to all 🙂 EU, APAC, US, am on all and everywhere lol

[dusky cove]

or they could just run it for 24 hours

[devout herald]

THIS NEEDS to be longer then 8 hour window, I am in an APAC region, half my alliance is in an APAC region, BUT on EU server because we are Pre-release, and this is starting at 11pm till 7am, where half my alliance and about 1/3 of my server are asleep

[drowsy timber]

Makes sense….

[silver parcel]

might scrap the pilum to help with the rotarran

[queen jolt]

I hear you. no need to cross post

[near bloom]

Dude the only thing you blew was your ex-wife’s money 🤣 now shoo bringing your server drama here.

[queen jolt]

😤 😤 😤 😤 😤

[silver parcel]

All right, simmer down

[faint vessel]

the new 71%? oh heck .....

[spark lark]

Np time out ,

[signal cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-10726849

[dusky cove]

it would be lovely if scopely employed some devs with a modicum of common sense

[spark lark]

Restarted now just left

[near bloom]

At least if you had that happen in incursions you could mine and kill hostiles. Over in the arena you don’t even have that 😬😂

[violet saffron]

How's the £1k per day imaginary business going?

[velvet gust]

Love the Arena idea. But lordy the lag, getting stuck on entry and exit, events not scoring and terrible matchmaking isn't helping.

@queen jolt any chance of additing rep and credits to the MU hostiles??

[queen jolt]

easy tiger, 2 issue -- let's see what we can do with the MU hostiles

[faint vessel]

Did OldMan write the QualityVsQuantity post?

[velvet gust]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-roar-gif-11804661

[silver parcel]

There does need to be another path to rep and credits for the terran store over just the arenas

[velvet gust]

Thank you!!

[faint vessel]

[he left]

[dusky cove]

talking about mu, any eta on a mu wave fix please? The lsd trip is getting a tad old

[silver parcel]

Tuesday for the mu waves fix

[near bloom]

I’m concerned that rank gatekeeping content while giving people negative rank will block content.

[silver parcel]

and the daily goal reward screen

[near bloom]

But I’ll wait to see what that looks like in practice.

[silver parcel]

That's already happening, see the announcement

Apparently they have a fix

[near bloom]

You’d hope so as it used to work 😬😂

[dusky cove]

Thanks, I hope it works

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/so-do-i-james-greer-tom-clancys-jack-ryan-so-am-i-same-here-gif-27281293

[stray pawn]

Why is arena limited to a single 8 hr slot? You are disenfranchising so many players?

[silver parcel]

Because you didn't eat your vegetables.

[near bloom]

I/we suspect it’s to drive engagement to improve the odds of matching quickly.

But it has been raised as a limiting factor.

[stray pawn]

I know most my alliance won’t be able to log on for much of the event.

[near bloom]

It is a challenge, I get that.

[granite snow]

Ouchy , we have a level 62 player who has just started an arena , no one online can join and he only has 8 hours to restart 😅 most of our players won't even be online before it resets 😬

[near bloom]

You’ve basically got three competing requirements working against each other; people want a balanced match, people want a match to happen quickly, and people want a performant match.

[silver parcel]

4, people want a match period

Lol

[granite snow]

5 - people dint want it 😅🫣

[devout herald]

https://tenor.com/view/match-stick-flame-cool-magic-awesome-gif-14224963

heres a match 😄

[near bloom]

The performant piece means that it can’t really be cross region, the balance is hard cos everyone is at zero and the quickly piece means lots of people need to be trying to start a match.

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/match-fire-flame-lit-gif-7881836

no, this is a match

[dusky cove]

it's almost as if they designed a system that doesn't fit stfc with no real demand from the playerbase...

[mortal elk]

if there's low presence because of general low population (ahoy, APAC) or timings, then the matches that can happen are going to be less-well matched than they could be. And low presence could be because of other time commitments, shift work, being spread too thinly through the day... lots of things

[near bloom]

But - as said before - the team have been advised that there are frustrations.

[formal dragon]

So glad to see the matchmaking on Arena is working exactly as I predicted. @queen jolt @heady moon seriously mid 50’s and 1 59 against mid to high 60’s?? Sort it out please. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[mortal elk]

heck, it can take an hour to get a CQC match in Elite 🤣

[stray pawn]

True , but removing the 8 hr limit would be a start. Ppl have jobs in rl 🤷‍♂️

[devout herald]

those are Plural matches 😄

[near bloom]

Instanced PvP always polls highly and was on the roadmap 🤷🏻‍♂️

[normal elm]

please add the option to swipe left on arena matches you do not wish to meet 🔥

[near bloom]

Removing the 8 hour limit means the same people that would try to do it in 8 hours now will try to do it in 24.

[dusky cove]

so...working as intended with a pack with rep/loot incoming?

[faint vessel]

they'll monetise that

[near bloom]

Less density, worse matches, more sitting in lobbies. 😢

[devout herald]

it also removes people from actualy being able to participate

[dusky cove]

yup but would work way better if they gave everyone an even playing fields with preset ships

[near bloom]

Was an idea I’d had. Glad someone else threw it out there as I was thinking I was insane 🤣

Problem is you don’t rage spend if you all have the same stick

[mortal elk]

it's a cool idea, but it remains to be seen whether the population and interest is there to support it... putting events into it will help, because it focuses the attention a bit

[stray pawn]

How if ppl are aren’t online during the 8 hr slot they aren’t playing anyway

[mortal elk]

APAC I fear are just doomed, it'll be interesting to see how well the EU and US ones play out

[dusky cove]

that's how it works in most other games I played

[buoyant zenith]

thought arenas was 24hrs, timer says ends in 8hrs

[near bloom]

Less incentive to be on in those 8 hours means less people on at any one time and less chance of forming a squad? I guess?

[queen jolt]

do we have a streamer for EU?

[feral bloom]

Very nice time for arena, in the middle of a working day... Nice again, you didn't fail buglagely

[near bloom]

We do, but you didn’t let me ascend so 🤣

[queen jolt]

I want to watch!

[devout herald]

thats my point, people can't participate because the 8 hours is too short, i dont care about the start time, the events just need to be longer

[devout herald]

they're at work

[queen jolt]

cooking stream plus arena?

[stray pawn]

Sorry misunderstood what you said

[near bloom]

I’d love to but we lack ascension keys and at the moment the alliances are in a few different places so no whole squad 🤣

I just throw out there I’m not guilty 🤣

[stray pawn]

Then remove the 8hr cap. EU are at work

[granite snow]

11am start time in UK is silly as most people work till 5 , fair enough if it's a weekend thing but weekdays 😅 Monday of all days ...

[near bloom]

That still doesn’t help him now though to be fair 🤣

[feral bloom]

Arena should be online 24h a day, so ppl will have time to go in when they have the time, not when buglagely says so... Like with TC... And TC is dead

[vague gull]

What’s there to watch? There isn’t anything exciting about one team being stomped

[stray pawn]

I know 😬

[humble orbit]

He means watching now, which expanding to 24h changes nothing.

[hollow dune]

8 hours is a joke some need to work

[mortal elk]

I mean... you and I are both working enough that we're on discord rn... 🤣

[humble orbit]

Unless apac has a streamer. Also, is apac still running theirs?

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

[granite snow]

Stay at home mum , this is my game time...hubby however works till 6 and will be angry 😅

[feral bloom]

You can discord while you doing poo p poo p

[stray pawn]

It’s Irony because the streamers are all at work

[devout herald]

yup and half my alliance is in New Zealand, which are asleep now as its 11:15pm, runs till 7am

[near bloom]

You can arena during a good one too.

[mortal elk]

you can game while doing it too, I always did 🤣

[feral bloom]

You need that long time for that?

[vague gull]

APAC is still running but not a single game has been exciting enough to stream

[near bloom]

Arena? No. Poop? Gotta take my breaks.

[hollow dune]

8 hours is a joke Scrotley

[mortal elk]

I have the 'roids to prove it too, but that may be TMI 🤣

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-face-cat-meme-cat-puke-cat-vomit-cat-coughing-meme-gif-22332765

[queen jolt]

APAC still has 2 hrs and 46 mins left

[granite snow]

Think this one will be a pass , there's only 3 people online 😅 first content I can't actually engage with in 5 years 😅

[near bloom]

@minor furnace any sign of this ribeye and stream? 🤣

[jovial spire]

Can we AFK Arena in stfc? 😂 Starting could work but not playing

[silver parcel]

Hope they get the sms working by the time the US starts

[minor furnace]

I already ate.

[near bloom]

So stream?

[vague gull]

I guess I’m lucky that I finished my SMS early before it broke 😅

[near bloom]

I tried to bully Lube into it but I guess his work wasn’t as agreeable as he hoped.

[minor furnace]

I was not planning to today. I was going to do it tomorrow.

[pine phoenix]

Great content 🤣🤣

[mortal elk]

@queen jolt - if you throw ascension to 404 on the sly, I reckon you could get HD, me and some others joining in 🤣

[near bloom]

No arena tomorrow 👀

[minor furnace]

I know.

[near bloom]

I reckon it would happen fast

[mortal elk]

we'd just need to shuffle the alliances a bit...

[near bloom]

I’m glad to have a partner in crime asking for ascension though 🤣

[ebon raven]

"Balanced"

[mortal elk]

🤣

[queen jolt]

tagging sierra

[humble orbit]

Is your 8h window during your working hours? that's a disaster!

[near bloom]

@iron sandal has already threatened it

[near bloom]

I mean, as far as I’ve seen that’s pretty reasonable a balance compared to others 🤣

[queen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-secret-dr-banner-hulk-ready-gif-5285199

[viral snow]

Why on earth would you launch an 8hr event at lunchtime on a work day?

[ebon raven]

Lol... another feature DOA.... 8hrs during working day too... great planning

[mortal elk]

I mean, the split isn't that bad, you're down a g6 player, and you're all bigger than their smallest?

[merry jungle]

Have all the poops for making this an 8h event during the working day.

[pine phoenix]

Because they not understand what working actually means
See their quality of work 😂

[mortal elk]

definitely seen worse 🤣

[viral snow]

…and for the reason, I’m out

[near bloom]

🤷🏻‍♂️ if you’re forming squads within alliances, the pools to fetch someone level and power parity is vanishingly small.

[round trail]

Whose daft idea was it to hold an event during working hours? Time zones are a thing Scopely 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[formal dragon]

Aren’t we supposed to get emblems even if we lose?

[viral snow]

Don’t they have a whole bunch of people in Ireland? They really should understand time zones…

[near bloom]

I believe 100?

[formal dragon]

Got nothing.

[viral snow]

Or maybe they have bought into the idea that no-one actually works over here in Europe and we spend all day in cafés drinking espressos

[near bloom]

We did see latency in that appearing during play test, but it wasn’t significant; drop me a DM and follow up with me after event with how things went and final position etc and I’ll try get some eyes on it.

[near bloom]

No, they bought into the idea that you all sit on Discord moaning 😬

😂

[fickle apex]

Stupid Arena.. I don't have 5 members
Can't you just let me go solo

[viral snow]

Touché! 😂

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bowing-thank-you-tom-and-jerry-take-a-bow-chasing-gif-20784169

It is amazing how many people can’t play this because it’s work day but miraculously tomorrow will be here complaining they can’t play at the same time 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-sassy-gay-choreography-lgbt-gif-22409823

[mortal elk]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-this-photo-i-dont-like-it-dinosandcomics-dinosaur-gif-19587179

[faint vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-im-done-oh-lord-oh-no-gif-13638080609633192920

[silver parcel]

He's in that photo too

[mortal elk]

he is 🤣

[silver parcel]

🤣

[mortal elk]

he does less work than I do 🤣

[near bloom]

Yeah, yeah I am 🥲

[near bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-remark-resemble-foghorn-leghorn-gif-14871302

[mortal elk]

a classic

[near bloom]

That I am.

[narrow ledge]

Top guy in our alliance can't start one because then we wouldn't have enough. If I start it he can, but we'd have to have 5 of 6 online during work hours... Nice

[silver parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/spacejam-bugs-bunny-gif-5043377

[near bloom]

Sorry, walk me through that again?

Is this the +/- 7 thing?

[mortal elk]

yeah

+/- 7 from the starter AFAIK?

rather than an average

[near bloom]

Ok - is there an event for which you have to “start” the arena?

[narrow ledge]

Mine is available for 57-70 ops range. We have 6 in that range. Top guy is like 67. There's only 2 of us that are ops 60+

[near bloom]

Or is it just that normally you’d have them start it?