💬-general-feedback

[oak lava]

Remove the new DTI store cooldowns. pants on head stupid. the ship has sailed. Restore ultra recruit shads to the previous rates from last year. add them back to dailies. no. not 40 tokens. the ORIGINAL numbers.

[jaunty prism]

I don't even care about the DTI store cooldowns, it's whatever... What I think is insulting is that Scopely has, for years now, been so consistent in never touching old content no matter how broken or irrelevant it is that I genuinely believe it's company policy to not allow people to touch code written more than a month ago. You guys finally broken that streak... And it was to add cooldowns to a store? Seriously? Talios and Voyager are still so badly warp locked that it's better to just use faction ships for their events. Franklin/A is still completely and utterly irrelevant. You're still selling $100 primes that have 0 effect on the game in their current state. The 00m 00s warp bug still exists. You STILL can't use consistent wording to refer to game mechanics in your news posts (Loyalty Tokens???). I could go on all day.

And with all that... Your priority is to add cooldowns for a store? Why is that important?

[idle vigil]

So, clearly the events just released are a teaser to Wrath of Khan likely next month. We should all be talking about that. But we are not, because of the BONEHEADED MOVE earlier this morning to nerf the DTI.

[warped willow]

Absolutely catastrophic for f2p, not only do they have the cash disadvantage, now they have scopely coding the game against them.

[vivid ginkgo]

well it makes sense for them to add the cooldown. since you are around 9 days away of unlocking the Uss Rel with f2p path...

[carmine marten]

Feedback - don’t kick your player base right before launching an arc teaser since probably not many people will care about it because they’re still nursing the horrible beat down you just delivered

[clever whale]

Also hard to talk about the new events when my events still say "retrieving...." after multiple refreshes and 20 minutes...

Or I could be talking about the in game notification of increased rewards from some SMS and SLBs and ALBs.... but, nope. This little good is outwieght by much bad!

[shrewd flume]

just unlocked dti yesterday then got slapped with that lmfaoo

[fast anvil]

can we have SLBs where 50-52 is one, 53-55 is another, 56-59 is another, 60-62 is the last. i cant win any of the SLBs because 1. my ships are too smol so i cant punch up on hostiles. 2. warp range issues, i can only hit fixed level hostiles. 3. the mats that you get at higher ops would be higher so they got more mats to spend. i tried for an spend SLB last month where i basically saved everything for it over 3 months but i still only got 10th and everyone above me is 59 or 60

[tidal notch]

Clear loc and you should see the event names

[keen loom]

How many times a day does Scopley believe is appropriate for a player to clear localization, and or restart the game?

Can we get an answer from the tech gurus that piece code together?

Just so we have a level set expectation.

[opal crane]

Task Failed Successfully 😄

[thick flax]

well the good thing is, whales hoarding DTI currency cant spend it all in one go. so you can say that it's "balanced" now 😂

[tribal nacelle]

why would they have hoarded it to begin with? I'm wondering when we can expect this complete DTI debacle to be rolled back?

[shrewd flume]

not that its a particularly quick loop for lower power players to begin with, its gonna take even longer to get toli/tolra/leslie which kinda blows

[warm crater]

because a lot of people wouldn't spend it until they could get an entire tier or unlock of something

[warped willow]

It will absolutely disadvantage anyone who hasn't already unlocked all of the things, now they have to wait for what others didn't.

[opal crane]

Let's place bets, I would put money on the fact that a whale got big mad because some F2P peasant had a higher rank on the INTERNAL alliance scoreboard on the Alliance Tournament and pitched a massive fit about how it's not fair that they spend thousands of dollars and still got a lower rank on something that doesn't matter.

oooo they big mad.

[idle vigil]

Well, we have a "whale" in our alliance. And he's reporting that the VIP discord is blowing up just like this one. They aren't happy about it either.

He and a bunch other players there have also put all purchases on hold.

[molten jungle]

You only need to be ops 61 to score the same as an ops 70 easily

[vast nest]

It's a bad day when the whales and peasants are mad

[mild bobcat]

As soon. As you buy the full "DTI Slowmode Removal Prime" for the low cost of 900 payments of $99.99

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-about-it-youre-preaching-to-the-choir-oh-i-know-i-know-you-can-say-that-again-gif-15029344

[tribal nacelle]

Easy fix... roll it back. Done and done

[warped willow]

Pretty soon it's just gonna say "insert credits to play" and then we've rolled full cycle. 😛

[opal crane]

Ops 60 thru the DTI store (Hi, it's me, I'm the problem it's me), but yes. Ops 61 gets an additional 'easy' button.

I had a couple thousand each of the pocketwatch and time weapon before I left Ops 56 and hit 60 😄

[vast nest]

I would tell you all about it, if I wouldn't get muted and banned for it

[quick coral]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-fall-yikes-boxer-arcade-gif-14246200

[jaunty prism]

I just hope you guys get the right message that it's not just about the DTI store... Like I said in feedback, it's about priorities and the seeming lack of prioritization of fixing anything old, and then this just coming out of nowhere for no apparent reason. If older content was actively maintained, people wouldn't care so much.

[mild bobcat]

It sucks when there are so many features in the game that could be great if worked on to ensure proper operations during game play instead of releasing things most people don't really want because $$$.

[unkempt roost]

This is one of the most poorly thought out decisions I have seen made. The currency is gated and so what if people save it and spend it when they want. Literally the only way past the time gates designed into the DTI loop was to BUY a credit pack. So the logic here is to remove any incentive to buy your way around a time gate? That is literally the driving force behind almost all pack sales.

Whatever the real reason for this change it needs to go. I have never been angrier - CD issues have happened before and gotten rolled back almost immediately. This was working as intended and players who were conservative with their spends are now blocked for weeks from spending currency that already took weeks or longer to accumulate.
Roll it back.

[lunar ocean]

Don't try to distract us. Fix this DTI cooldown crap

[quick coral]

@tidal notch @raw fiber Great. Nice update to current sms events.

Now, let's get back to the DTI issue.... this is an update that should not have happened 4 months after launch

[warped willow]

@tidal notch That would be a wonderful announcement on a regular day. Today we want to hear the DTI cooldowns will be removed.

[molten jungle]

Timed to perfection to punish the peasants

[tidal notch]

Can't we talk about the increased rewards for just a little while longer?

[burnt gazelle]

NO. MORE. COOL. DOWNS.

[grand bison]

<@&509690795536941056> so..great update to the daylie Events...but where did the one with killing hostiles with the nx-01 Go?!

[quick holly]

#freedti

[clever whale]

I appreciate the increased rewards. These are great! I just wish we had more balance so that gas was easier to source. Its a constant pain... and I eat beans!

[molten topaz]

Good to hear events have been buffed.
Extremely disappointed in the change in DTI cool-down so long after launch.

[tidal notch]

Should be up in about 15 mins

[haughty escarp]

Did the comp chest for the rally slb get rolled out yet?

The event that was missing rewards from last week

[carmine marten]

This is not the time to try to focus on any good news. It will be overshadowed by the dumpster fire we’re all still burning from 🙂

[jaunty prism]

Give me increased Ultra Recruits and you've got yourself a deal. I have zero need for mats whatsoever.

[vast nest]

Only if you increase the 12 hour daily event rewards to be useful

[brazen patrol]

Where’s the “we’re listening to player feedback to balance the game” now and why hasn’t the change to DTI store been reverted yet?
I don’t give a hoot about extra mats in the weekly events

[molten jungle]

Mining nodes that change needing a game restart - Fine
Ships stuck when they end warping home needing a restart- Fine
Kirshara device causing ships getting stuck needing a restart- Fine
Having to restart the game to refresh the tournament tasks - Fine
FC abilities with wrong icons and bad text descriptions - Fine
MU portals saying you need to be in the circle to warp when you're in - Fine
DTI store making players happy for 4 months - Must be fixed

[mild bobcat]

Because they haven't lost enough money over it yet?

[warm lion]

For real

[warped willow]

I loved the whole bit about the being transparent about upcoming changes and then they just spring something like this on us not terribly long after having one of the talks with the devs. Imagine that.

[cyan torrent]

*Subject to change

[unreal saddle]

#noCDinDTI

[kind vale]

#⭐-official-announcements message all this does is hurt those just getting to this content and those F2P that are just getting their stockpiles built. This provides zero balance to the game. If anything it causes more separation for those that have pushed these before cooldown.

[jaunty fog]

<@&509690795536941056> honestly, the lack of caring about the player base makes me want to set a 7 day and just walk away for a week, and when I come back if it still is less fun that it was last month, just quit the game. There was nothing in this decision that was good for the player base, but hurts the f2p the worst. This feels like choices made by a small gaming company with a few thousand players, not a multi-million dollar company with a lot to lose.

Do better.

[astral acorn]

The DTI change isn't for "game balance" it's cause pack sales for associated items have nosedived, but I doubt sales will increase due to this poor change. @tidal notch please tell the devs that they screwed up majorly and this actually will hurt the bottom line not fuel it

[warped willow]

"Multi-billion dollar company"

[quick coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212

[vivid nebula]

Are they to divert our attention from the dti fiasco? Suspect timing

[unkempt roost]

There is now zero reason to buy a dti credit pack to get around the time gates when the pack you just bought to go around the time gate runs headlong into yet another time gate.
From a $ perspective it makes no sense.

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-btas-joker-drats-run-away-gif-4066337778106948805

[tidal notch]

I know it might look that way, but the rewards update was planned for today.

[haughty temple]

Here's a thought how about scopley read what we say lmfao

[kind vale]

https://tenor.com/view/this-post-contains-misinformation-pausebeforeyoushare-misinformation-fake-news-lies-gif-613194933671501478

[obsidian dome]

If $copely want to drive sales, they should remove timer on all items that requires special currency.

[astral acorn]

They want us to buy the temporal disruptors for the AT task not bypass it with a day's worth of turn ins per task completion

[warped willow]

So was the DTI update, as it would appear... Which is exactly what they are getting at lol.

[molten jungle]

Look, you guys talk a lot about making loops more efficient to spend time with newer things. The DTI store/loop was fine as-is. Heck, the Revenant loop is also fine as-is. Makes it so with the crazy 2-month ship release schedule people can move along to the new thing. After 4 months, it was just better and easier leaving things along as we all expected the store to work as it was implemented.

By the way, really not a fan of this 2 month schedule. The NSEA can't even get to the 60+ systems I need for hostiles so it's just a glorified mining ship and the Gorn ship is also stuck at getting to the 61+ system which makes it pretty useless.

[wide cloak]

You can have back those new rewards. Doesn't "balance" out the anger with the DTI cooldowns.

[warm crater]

can we talk about how stfc.space for seeing event rewards is and has been broken for several months?

[south depot]

@tidal notch I'm sorry you've got to hear all this feedback about the DTI store cooldown, but they are terrible. Please let the overlords know that this is just dumb.

[latent timber]

Making cooldowns in DTI and making a special currency spend event...

[clever whale]

THIS.

If Scopes wants us to spend time with the new content, help us reduce the grind for the old content so we have more time.

Why aren't all the old ships in the IA building at this point? Especially ones like the Franklin and Franklin A which provide no utility once you hit 38 and have ex-borg sweeps, or even earlier depending on what faction ships you get. Or super grind intensive ones like the Stella. Give us more time for the new stuff, and maybe more people will want to get to that point!

[gilded escarp]

<@&509690795536941056> Making cooldowns “balance” things when you can just purchase them with a credit card instantly? Talk about “balance”… it’s the opposite of balance when you can just buy anything and everything. If you want balance, then you need to add cooldowns to purchases, and limit the amount of shards you can get of whatever you buy, otherwise you will continue to get negative feedback about your ideas of “balance”. Or better yet, make all purchases for cosmetic items. That will add the “balance” you seek among players

[opal crane]

And this is where Scopely starts the sleight of hand and misdirection. "Look at us doing all these 'good' things for you!!"
Pound sand with this trash.

[unkempt roost]

Is it really about that ? Because removing the task would be a better solution.

[vivid nebula]

Yep let the gaslighting begin

[astral acorn]

that would be logical but clearly that wasnt the "right move"

[south depot]

#FREEDTI

[fast tartan]

#FREEDTI

[vivid oasis]

Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back

[quick holly]

#freeDTI

[astral acorn]

#freeDTI

[jade vine]

Yes you give us increased rewards to level faster but when we get there we have cooldowns and can’t spend our dti credits. 🤣

[nova sierra]

Wa room was on and now we can't claim the rewards

[jaunty fog]

<@&509690795536941056> #FreeDTI you know this change was 🐂 💩 , tell the powers that be to fix it.

[tidal notch]

Nope. That announcement was planned in advance.

[quick coral]

So... the DTI announcement was not planned?

[molten jungle]

And someone woke up this morning on the wrong side of the bed to change the DTI store?

[distant trellis]

@raw fiber @tidal notch #freeDTI

[kind vale]

I believe it was planning in advance, to be announced at the same time as cooldown to try and temper the frustration. Please understand our frustration is with Scopely and not our wonderful CMs.

[unreal saddle]

#FREEDTI

[vivid oasis]

@raw fiber @tidal notch Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back Roll it back

[jade vine]

It was planned that way give us salt and honey same day

[rich elm]

That Xin-deep needs to be reworked, or at least that the cooldown for the directives from 1 week to 1 day. I have not bothered doing that ever because I never have the directives to even reach half way.

[brisk veldt]

@tidal notch please advocate for the roll back of the dti faction store. Timers are not necessary when the credits already have a timer. Dti has been a great help for getting players to progress to where scopley wants them to be. This year’s content has been great for getting through old loops so we can engage the new. Appreciate you!

[tidal notch]

I've been very throrough about passing on the sentiment here!

[kind vale]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-gif-9358701518312550090

[quick coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-hamster-give-treat-gif-3789240778167950280

[tidal notch]

I could totally go for a quesadilla right now! Also, I can't believe its only 10:35 PDT in the morning! It feels like it should be at least 6pm....

[ebon slate]

I am glad to see the Stranger missions were available to me in the Holodeck today. I have felt like an afterthought with most of the newly released content for over a year due to my ops level so it was a pleasant surprise to see I can participate in this stranger event 👏

[tidal notch]

Yup! Glad those showed up!

[opal crane]

Doesn't change what it was. Y'all knew this would be a complete cluster and y'all planned your sleight of hand accordingly.

[hollow ridge]

My alliance has commented that I’m lucky to have finished maxing out temporal artifacts, but it hurts to see that. I really wanted them to benefit from what I was able to. Saying this is for balance is just about the worst gaslighting possible

[wide cloak]

Perhaps instead of a community mod answering to the angry crowd, the peeps responsible for the change should share their thoughts directly on why the imbalance already created will be sustained by inserting a cooldown.

[kind vale]

I am guessing with a pitcher of margaritas on a day like this 🤣

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/margarita-time-that-70s-show-gif-8944155676144904237

[gaunt horizon]

I had not spent my DTI credits every single day on some items in the faction store and was saving them for larger upgrades or when I wanted to buy them all at once. Now i'm left going This change to DTI adding cooldowns is frustrating, disappointing and incomprehensible. #FreeDTI

[fallow locust]

#FreeDTI

[glass horizon]

#freeDTI

[distant trellis]

#freeDTI

[vivid nebula]

#freedti

[drifting carbon]

#freeDTI

[kind vale]

#freeDarwin - need to mix it up 🙂

[dusk hatch]

#FreeDTI

[royal lantern]

#FreeDTI

[brave spire]

#FreeDTI

[warped willow]

Can't help but notice they put the increased rewards in the in game news but conveniently left out the DTI nerf, probably trying to prevent even more blowback. 😅
🆓DTI

[safe prairie]

#FreeDTI

[olive summit]

Not surprised because credits CD already create a gate and i know a few whales who saved credits so they can tier officers all the way at once esp during a spend event like today. Its no wonder theyre mad too

[night sail]

#freeDTI. Only 2 weeks away and scopely changes the rules. That is unkind.

[winged cypress]

#FreeDTI

[mossy acorn]

#freeDTI

[strong island]

I can only describe my feelings about DTI today as disappointed. We all know that new artifacts and new loops will come in the future. Putting cool downs on those items/officers feels bad. Allow the free to play players to get a chance to unlock and use some of these things whilst they are still useful to them 🙈 its only a matter of time before theyre out of date and less relevant to everyone. We already have cool downs on the credits so i dont understand why there is a need to gate them further #FreeDTI

[gritty stirrup]

#freeDTI #noCDonDTI #makeDTIGreatAgain #DontScrewItScopely

[drowsy root]

#freeDTI

[reef fiber]

#Free DTI

[proven hound]

#freeDTI

[strong island]

If this is about the temporal task in ATs then the better solution is to change the requirement for completing it if scopely dont want that to be a free to play task. my guess is that most players arent buying that pack, and probably not the section 31 ciphers/borg uc directives packs etc, theyre largely irrelevant unfortunately. yet those things come up constantly in tournaments 🙈 If it really is about balancing, then that is an immediate fail because the bigger guys and girls will ahve already maxed a lot of the temporal artifacts, so everyone else has a bigger hill to climb to catch up. it creates a bigger gap between our games largest and the rest of the player base

[brittle tundra]

#freeDTI

[daring wasp]

#freedti

[kind rampart]

#freeDTI

[proven hound]

I hope you were. It’s been a real shame what’s happened this afternoon and if there is a bit of common sense it’s been reverted tonight and presented as Labour Day present tomorrow. You know that there is no such thing as „balancing“. And make sure they do it in a timely manner as that will be the only way to get at least a little bit of reputation back. So grab another pitcher if necessary and get into that office and show them just the emoji reaction on the announcement.
Thx for your support.
LLAP 🖖

[quick coral]

Man... even a ferengi is mad about the greed.....

[molten shell]

the new DTI cooldown is not necassary. it's a really bad change that make the game worse.

[violet elm]

Exactly 😹 Rule of Acquisition 57: Good customers are as rare as latinum. Treasure them.

[carmine marten]

New arc would look interesting except I don’t really care about any of it with this looming shadow of DTI changes you dropped. This change is 4 months too late and serves no purpose except to widen the gap between early adopters and f2p, and harms everyone who was saving credits knowing they could spend them at will. You need to reverse this DTI change asap, nothing else matters until then

[jaunty fog]

So now, unmute and unban all those that used #freedti

[golden violet]

Take away DTI but still didn't give chest for level up event

[keen loom]

Now that we have established loud and clear that the change to DTI doesn’t work for the player base -

What is the rollback plan, or plan to make it fair FOR EVERYONE?

<@&509690795536941056>

[potent pike]

#freeDTI

[lusty fable]

maybe while there at it they could stop putting dozens of events on every week day and put more on at weekends when people actually have the spare time to do them

[tidal notch]

I'm continuing to pass on the feedback.

[warped willow]

I remember when they added the whip forbidden tech and they accidentally made it incredibly fast and they said something to the effect of they would leave it there because that is how it was at release....
#FreeDTI

[sharp socket]

Wait, people r getting banned for asking to reverse the DTI cooldown?

[tidal notch]

Nope. Unless you're being insulting or toxic. But asking for the rollback isn't against server policy.

[hallow spoke]

no there was the #freedti movement people got banned for

[tidal notch]

Nobody was banned for using that hashtag.

[opal crane]

A member of our server said they posted FreeDTI and got a ban. They're NEVER one to be rude or offensive to anyone, EVEN ME. So I'm calling SUS on Scopely.

[wide cloak]

#FreeDTI posts were removed...

[olive summit]

<@&509690795536941056> if it was all about the progression of artifacts and temporal disruptors. Why the heck is scopely adding CDs to the officers and CTs? No, its all about the free REV unlocks that are coming up.

[tidal notch]

Pinged you for more info.

[molten jungle]

Could be the mods over modding

[jaunty fog]

Well THATS a lie!

[quick coral]

#💬-general-feedback message

[warped willow]

Hammy puts the HAM in the Ban Hammer 😅

[tidal notch]

Oh! Spamming. Yeah that will get you muted.

[lusty fable]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-the-walking-dead-walking-dead-carl-andrew-lincoln-gif-3852951221802140863

[low narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-i-didnt-think-id-see-this-again-i-thought-i-would-never-see-that-again-din-djarin-star-wars-gif-24574238

[fallen spear]

https://tenor.com/view/its-spam-no-spam-stop-spam-spam-alert-dont-open-it-gif-21895102

[hallow spoke]

that is not correct. One of our players {thundo2apartybanana2aparty} got muted for 8 hours due to the spam of #freedti. he typed it. not a huge repetitive post. would have told you sooner but the looonnnngggg slowmode prevented it

[quick flume]

Thnx for caring and trying, dont let everyone get under your skin

[sharp socket]

Not true. My member here didn’t spam post. #💬-general-feedback message and got muted

[warm crater]

banning and muting are not the same

[tidal notch]

Yup. Spamming is against server rules.

[carmine yew]

Gonna need to do some sort of announcement and get the Devs to log on discord since Scopley are losing control of it 😂

[warped willow]

How exactly does one "spam" a "slow mode" chat room? I typed this then had to wait four minutes to send it. 😂

[wide cloak]

moments like this, repeating a hashtag isn't enough to trigger spam, unless you really want to make peeps feel their voice isn't worth hearing... which is kinda how we feel already.

[grave quest]

candle1 was threatening us earlier saying spamming as a group or solo is against the rules. it’s why ppl are afraid to speak their minds and use the #freeDTI tag. i commented on him pouring kerosene on the fire. it was another insult to injury with this fiasco.

[kindred prairie]

When the automod sees the same message over and over from many accounts it considers it spammy. It's not looking for any specific text, just something happening a lot over a short period of time.

[hallow spoke]

how was posting #freedti spamming? I would agree if he typed typed typed to the point in redundancy. however this is not the case. this is more the case of Mods did not like the statement so applied a mute unjustly claiming it is spam. You cant say one thing and do another. it takes away your legitimacy. sorry if that offends but that is the truth

[pine meteor]

So because scopely made a very poor decision that has lit your discord server on fire we get slow moded and chat banned for being upset about and voicing that issue good job #freeDTI

[idle vigil]

Rev's Wed stream is just TOASTING Scopely. 🍿

[tidal notch]

Its always been against the rules to spam chat. That's not new.

[sharp socket]

Wow. Yall community mangers and mods have really started something here lol. It’s pretty hard to spam a slow mode chat

[opal crane]

I think what everyone is saying is that there is no world where any of this should be considered spamming. Not letting Scopely off the hook is how this gets fixed. Scopely would GLADLY brush this under the rug and make people forget by 'giving gifts' and gaslighting the community with any number of 'other' stuff. The community is LOUDLY and explicitely saying NO... they're not going to let this fly and Scopely will hear about how disgruntled everyone is until it is fixed. To let a minute go by where it's not pushed to the forefront is how this gets brushed away.

[grave quest]

the issue is that it’s not just being used against spammers which i get. there are some that may deserve it now, but to be honest, it seems like muting players is being abused at this point.

#freeDTI

[warped willow]

An issue that's affecting most of the players will generate a lot of repetitive messages. That's a given. Sounds like a sus algorithm. 😅

[warm crater]

why is this a response to me?

[woeful rapids]

you must be wilfully taking the micky out of us at this point.

[pine meteor]

How with a slow mode

[proven hound]

And it’s so well deserved

[carmine yew]

i did think the same when i seen it, we all save the DTI spending for that event 😂

[molten jungle]

If you get 6k upgrade stuff a day, why would you even bother with that event?

[tidal notch]

Is one of the police officers holding a sign too?

[tulip sierra]

yep

[proven hound]

Coming along with the so called Scopely finger…

[crimson elm]

Edit it change Police to Scopley

[warped willow]

<@&509690795536941056> It's been quite awhile since they've made a blunder this big. Like the extended period of time when we got zero new content. Hopefully they have learned something from that exodus...

[carmine yew]

its needed for us low levels

Hammy can be that police officer holding the sign

[carmine marten]

So new officer rank 6 abilities coming this next arc. Is this the real reason you dropped this announced dumpster of a DTI change? Couldn’t be honest about it?

[unborn halo]

@tidal notch

[limber oriole]

Haven't seen outrage like this since the Gaila fiasco. I really think turning on a cooldown after almost a month of being able to pull those freely us just another money grab idea by someone in Ineptlys money making division

[opal crane]

If only Maia was better at creating AI images! 😄 Scopely is breaking ChatGPT and Gemini 😄

[tidal notch]

Well at least that meme is more consistent...

[crimson elm]

PERFECT

[jaunty prism]

You don't see Pauly out there with the crowd holding a sign too? 😛

[violet elm]

I’m sorry but they had it coming… all that ignorance towards us and the feedback. Bugs are piling up like tribbles everywhere. It’s all about money money money. And more money. Almost all content is bugged and getting worse. Their product quality is declining. They listen to 1% of the feedback and ignore 99%… and we are meant to be happy with this? No thank you.

[keen loom]

Here’s the deal. It isn’t going to get changed. Bottom line. Scopley will dump out some ridiculous comp chest, or double directives to offset this change, neither of which is a fix.

Point blank, going forward I intend to call out every anti player base communication from Scopley, for what it is.

Perfectly within the rules, and the only way to expose the greed for what it is.

[fallen spear]

Couldn't resist 😎

[molten jungle]

Ever since the change on how comp chests work, those chests are just a meaningless gesture. Once upon a time we got a month'ss worth of mats pulls for big blunders like the treasury.

[lusty fable]

the changes to those were about as welcome as a knee in the happy sacks

[high forum]

Please free DTI!

[grave quest]

the comp chests were wonderful when they first came out. sadly they are absolute trash now because the game has evolved. but hey! I’ll
forgive everything for 100k G5 epic gas and 100K 4* rare explorer ship parts 🤗🤗🥰

[sharp socket]

@tidal notch hey I get it, yall want a drama free chat. But people getting a mute for posting the same thing in a way that’s not rude just isn’t right. People come here to talk about their frustrations with the game. Multiple people posting the same thing means there is a real issue and those people shouldn’t be punished for speaking up. Muting people here for speaking minds in a respectful way could be that straw that breaks their back and make them leave the game. Just some food for thought.

[quick flume]

Every soul should carry those signs

[keen loom]

Again - some things to point out:

The math already says that this change is really change for change's sake.

DTI boxes are already triple limited:

• you only get 1 start for krenim solos each day.
• you need at least 2 of each type, at level, to get a max pull of credits
• a max pull of credits only got you ~60 of each artifact (with not much left over)

There is no way to hack this to get infinite amounts. You can add on the formation armada chests, but that requires spending those same tokens you use to get the boxes to get directives, and they are on longer cooldowns.

so it's triple-ridiculous that Scopley implemented this when:

a - you cannot consistently pull that many of these boxes anyway given the mechanics for the tokens required.
b - it limits spending on the already bad value boxes that enable buying more than the daily cap.

Not only did you win nothing from the community, you eliminated any real value for packs you charge $100 for.

<@&509690795536941056>

[tidal notch]

We're not changing the rules on spamming. Players are free to express themselves (as long as its not insulting or toxic) but spamming isn't going to be allowed.

[wide cloak]

spamming is 1 person sending the same message multiple times. that was not happening as it was different people.

[pure plover]

Has anyone at scopely worked out how the cooldowns on DTI faction store actually balance anything out? Would love to understand the "thought" process behind it

[urban viper]

That's fair, but define Spam...

[idle vigil]

All it is is distraction from the message. Attack and say people are "spamming" to keep everyone from focusing on the steaming pile of 💩 that Scopely dropped this AM.

[sharp socket]

Yeah spamming by a person sure should prob be muted. But lots of people posting the same thing isn’t a real spam. And from reading back people aren’t being rude or toxic at all. If we r going by your definition of spamming, every single chat and post about this new change should be deleted.

[keen loom]

Here is the math:

Player A: comes back after being offline. He gets told "you really need Tolra". Okay, he's got some spare cash from a scratch off he just got last night and wants to just buy all the shards for her.

It's 1,500 shards to max her. It's 1,200 tokens for 5 shards. need 360,000 credits.

every 12,000 credits is $100.

That's a $3,000 USD sale they just remove the ability to do, on content that is 4 months old.

Why does this change need to be pointed out this way? I’m not advocating paying more/anything just demonstrating how unthought out this change was.

<@&509690795536941056>

[vale wasp]

One person spamming is the same as an organized mob doing it. You're drowning out constructive voices that the community wants to hear.

[warped willow]

Punishing one random person is a weird way to go about it.

[coral skiff]

I think the "spam" was as constructive as it can get.

[pure plover]

The problem with that is that if everyone is saying the same thing there is clearly a problem, it's not spamming if 1000 people say the same thing, it's a pattern, one that clearly shows people are not happy. Saying they are an organised mob is insulting (Isn't that against the rules here?) when it's just players who are very unhappy with the "balancing" scopely have done.

@tidal notch Things like this cause even more problems, on one hand you've got people saying spamming is the same person saying the same thing over and over again, on the other hand you have someone saying spamming is an organised mob saying the same thing. Which one is it?

PS* Just to add, I keep forgetting lowly players can't speak the truth here, pretty sure if I did this at my job I'd get sacked in a heartbeat

[wide cloak]

Understand that concept, but this is the community's channel to be heard by Scopely, not by each other. A viral hashtag that is free from anything derogatory seems fair to succinctly provide their feelings as long as they aren't repeatedly posting it ad nauseum without additional content.

[tidal notch]

Alright. That was pretty well done. Well played.

[fallen spear]

Final contribution, the 'Quesadilla Edition' 😎

[graceful cedar]

This us ridiculousness at it's ffg inest ..... putting limits on content that's been out for months for the ftp people so we can all "progress" at a more even rate? No wonder so many people are leaving the game

[opal crane]

#حررDTI

[grave quest]

where you see organized mob i see disgruntled players sharing the same sentiment. where you see ppl to be muted, i see a community that needs to be listened to. a mod threatening action because of a perceived mob is a mod that maybe should be given a timeout of his own: cc: @tidal notch

[tidal notch]

At least Im smiling and have a quesadilla in my hand.

[pure plover]

Can you confirm what spamming means?

A) One person repeatedly saying the same thing.
B) An "organised mob" saying the same thing.

I think there is some confusion with what spamming is on here so would probably help if it got clarified

[pine meteor]

At what point has this community not said something constructive! But has that thought been passed up and accepted 💁🏻‍♂️ or has it ever been fully replied to as why those changes were made. We have an instance here where for 3 months we have had this as a feature only now does it change. Can we ask why? That was the only reason the arc didn’t fail in ratings cause that made the content digestible without the ship. The constant now upset comments are due to an absolute failure of the representation we get here and it is disappointing

[marble tangle]

Lost again armada or „nonmadatoken“. This time chimera ones, start an armada, armada vanishes token lost, thank you thank you thank you for nothing

[keen loom]

Communication is a two way street. No responses are ever received that are not canned. We’re looking into it, we are working to fix bugs, blah blah blah. Zero substance. Ever.

Know what else comes in a can?

[warped willow]

Remember, Spam is bad. And so is the DTI change.

[opal crane]

Smiling while deleting the police hamsters! Rude, dude... Rude.

[fresh cargo]

Can someone explain me why officers which are older than 3 years need a time Gate? How does it "balance" things out?

[limber oriole]

Thats the biggest issue, complaints aren't responded to in a kind way, only butt-kissing posts do. We are tired of "were looking into it" or "working on it"

Today has been plagued by massive lag, what else is new. We stopped complaining about it because it's a daily occurrence, work around it and let your feedback channel in peace.

Where are the fixes. There is only so much you can abuse your player base and keep them spending

[keen loom]

Remember: we’re waiting for expectations from <@&509690795536941056> on how many cache clears and client reboots should be considered normal on a daily basis.

[vivid nebula]

All this shows is scopely wants to limit the justifiable negative feedback by placing arbitrary rules as to what we can post

[wide cloak]

People (including some of your highest spenders) are quitting the game over the fixes not made. The crashing during arenas, the constant need to reboot, the alliance tournaments that can't be competitive due to the massive inequality in servers. Please focus on those issues instead of depriving the community from the things it actually liked.

[old leaf]

yeah what he said!

[molten jungle]

About 4-5 daily should be the answer. Way more during AT.

[carmine marten]

I’m not really feeling motivated for much of anything anymore , in the game. This was a wholly unnecessary kick in the pants. Killed interest or care. So much going on and I missed out on redeeming most of my choice tokens. I should be terribly upset about that, except…. Scopely doesn’t give a flying rip about us, as evidenced with this DTI change. So why care about any of it? I’m just tired and disappointed and apathetic towards the game right now. And don’t care about any of your new Khan arc teasers either. Thanks for just taking my enjoyment and stomping it out with blatant disregard

[wide cloak]

dang... I was too fired up about the DTI change that I completely forgot about my choice tokens as well. May be time to just quit the game altogether.

[proven hound]

@tidal notch it’s that new „freedom of speech“ way we see very often lately. Speak as we like or get muted/banned/content removed. A real shame what path you are going.

[woeful nymph]

Still waiting on the cooldown for that Mantis comp

[hallow spoke]

They are working on it

[sharp socket]

I think everyone needs to remember freedom of speech doesn’t apply to a privately owned discord chat. It’s what ever the community managers say goes. I dont think the <@&509690795536941056> understand they r just adding to the aggravation here and could be causing more People to be done with the game.

[warm crater]

if they told us why they did this after four months of the store being how it is, fine... annoying, but fine
if they told us this change was planned for (date) and gave us a chance to spend before they fixed it, still a grudging fine

not telling us is the part we're really not fine with, followed by immediately putting a spend event for that same currency just feels like a slap in the face

[mossy acorn]

Very upsetting that DTI was nerfed

[vivid nebula]

Field training compensation says hello 😆

[keen loom]

Pure coincidence we’re told. Pure coincidence.

[molten jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-gif-23888293

[woeful nymph]

Of course it has nothing to do with FTP unlocking the Relativity in 8 days....pure coincidence.

[umbral thistle]

I don't see how a phrase being posted by 100s of different people is anything other than useful feedback the will of the player base is clearly to see this reversed. There are plenty of constructive reasoned posts with details earlier on today now people are frustrated at any perceived movement or acknowledgement .

[wide cloak]

what is not a coincidence is that we are getting nothing in terms of real responses after 7 hours of constant complaints here. and completely banning a non-derogatory hashtag means they want silence on this topic.

[grave quest]

don’t forget a blatant and insultingly horrible lie that it was about balancing the game 🤦‍♂️

[keen loom]

I’ll say it again:

if balance is truly the goal we as a player base should expect:

free unlock and max of ALL DTI artifacts.

It’s the ONLY way. Balanced AND fair.

<@&509690795536941056>

[daring wasp]

FreeDTI

[hollow ridge]

And officers. I did artifacts first, was starting on officers when this happened.

[strong island]

Omg I did the same thing 🙈 totally forgot to cash them in. Got so distracted by all this DTI stuff. I thought we had time left 😖

[proven hound]

They just try to sit it out as always. Like they done with the wonderful re roll habit on AT. You could read a response of one of the mods that „it will be fixed next run“ but no official announcement. They just want to keep customers less informed and give nothing about opinion if it doesn’t suit their own

[warm crater]

what if it's intended not to balance the game NOW, but is intended to not UNbalance the game in a week?

if that's the case, they should have said THAT, too... in a few days... with the announcement they have had up on their site for a few days

[woeful nymph]

Alliances without whales suddenly able to do Krenim formation armadas regularly in 8 days when everyone unlocks a Relativity FTP? Time to add another gate!

[molten jungle]

I very much doubt it balances anything new. Old stuff very rarely improves things for new stuff.

[wide cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-true-pov-star-wars-gif-10696797

[vivid nebula]

Remember quality over quantity 👀😆😆😆

[proven hound]

They want more quality money

[vast nest]

I do believe that wasn't in the 2025 road map so we can't call them out on ignoring it this year

[woeful nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-dark-side-darkness-balance-force-gif-26716934

[warm crater]

a lack of UNbalancing something for the future is more my point - not letting the ones with maxed content continue to take advantage of that

so if next month's (or later) content can be easily done/tiered/accomplished by whatever they prevented us from doing with today's cooldown reset, then EVERYONE having the same cooldowns as everyone else means "balance"

which they should have started the next arc with and communicated WAY WAY better than what they did

not likely, but also not impossible

[daring wasp]

#freeDTI now

[twilit prairie]

Free dti. Feels like scoplay wants to shut the game down and focus on Pokémon! Because this absolutely no thought and respect for players. Taking away any value in the game that players enjoy. There saying we don’t want you playing anymore

[grave quest]

then they should have said that. instead they say what can only be understood as a lie and then react in a tone deaf way. i’m all for playing devils advocate but that is hard considering the brokely / community relationship is one of the most toxic i have ever known. If you aren’t a whale, you are beneath contempt. They give you community managers to be a wall separating us from actual ppl who can make some sort of difference. while i’m sure ppl like ham do take some good points to them, the decision makers just don’t care. non whales are treated like freeloader beggars not worthy of crumbs not to mention things like understandable communication and not being lied to.

[strong island]

<@&509690795536941056> any chance of an extension to the choice token redeem? There’s definitely a few of us in this channel that forgot about it in the midst of all this drama about DTI 🙈

[proven hound]

@tidal notch

[warm crater]

agreed - which is why both of my statements here have had "which they should have communicated"

their biggest tripping point is consistently trying to withhold or keep information from a bunch of smart people

[clever whale]

Is the mantis supposed to have field training?

[vivid nebula]

Scopely promised compo for that as well and like mantis was quietly forgotten and ignored when mentioned

[daring wasp]

While I understand what you are saying, this decision should have been made when the dti building came out. Doing it now absolutely is going to widen the gap between haves and have nots. Gbalancing or unbalancing either way doesn’t make a difference, they just gave people who spent on rep or bought the ship an absolutely unfair advantage over those who are free to play. This is unacceptable. And I am saying this who spent on both items and has benefited. From them. Removing
Them now is not good. And after 6 months of pretty decent content

[boreal stump]

what about no comp chests for this past AT where it was almost impossible to reroll stuff

[warm crater]

#💬-general-feedback message

which is what I've been saying all along

communication has stunk about this

[wide cloak]

This sums up today:

[spring vine]

Free DTI ! Very upset with the changes. Does not help the game and hurts the average player. #FREEDTI

[sly tree]

Why is Scopely ’fixing’ things that aren’t broken? #freedti

[hexed gull]

#freedti

[crimson girder]

Honesty not having the cooldowns on the officers etc. was a nice QUALITY of life change. Oops i forgot to pull an officer or an CT but did all 99 pulls of everything else. Oh well i can pull that thing later and not worry about falling behind on another layer of timers when there's 2-3 layers of timers before i can get to the thing I actually want. The 27 layers of timers on everything is so old and tiring it was a really nice change and now its just poof gone. #FREEDTI

[mossy acorn]

Today would be a good day to #freeDTI

[low scroll]

Please revert the change for DTI Faction!!! #FreeDTI

[nova sierra]

@raw fiber what is with the DTI cool-downs? All the bugs and trash in game that needs attentions and $copley instead decide to break one of the few good features, like seriously?! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[fallow lake]

I was so excited to start finishing up the silent hostile loop. With the power creep, I've outgrown the content. I get it though. Maxing out all the temporal artifact is going to make it too easy for the next set of content or force content to be harder. It's still a gut punch. <@&509690795536941056> could we get something nice in the gift tab, not as compensation, but as a 🫂

[jaunty fog]

No comp chests, they need to fix their mistakes, then work on fixing all the bugs in the game instead of trying to figure out more ways to screw over players.

[fallow lake]

They did fix their mistake 🤣 that's what we're so upset about 😅

[carmine marten]

They left it alone for months, it is not, and was not, a mistake 🙂 Whatever their reason, it’s not a good one, and deserves no justification or defense 👍

[grave quest]

i’ll forgive everything for 100K g5 epic gas, 75K rare G5 explorer ship parts, 50K g4 rare ship parts, and 10K galactic credits.

[low narwhal]

That's not true. They essentially admitted it wasn't a mistake when they added the refine to convert excess time weapon shards in to disruptors 1 month after the dti store launched as that wasn't there the first month

[daring wasp]

It’s time to #freedti

[boreal ferry]

that would have been fine… IF they’d done it during the arc. like a week in ‘oops our bad this wasn’t meant to be like this’… people would’ve complained but it wouldn’t have been anywhere near the same as randomly doing it months later… well here’s one person who will not be purchasing the new fleet commander next month unless they #freedti

[fallow lake]

100 epic artifact shards per day is a mistake. It's really that simple. Doesn't really matter how long it took to fix a bug/glitch/exploit/etc. I'd still like a 🫂 since I didn't get to exploit it.

[crimson girder]

Nah. They can be nice to us and let us finish loops in under 27 years for once.

[nova sierra]

Not a mistake, just stupidity. Want more money, open G7 already… it’s getting boring!

[low narwhal]

Scopley don't fix player benficial bugs in months. They fix them in days at the absolute most. They've even rolled back the game state 24hrs once. That's how you know it wasn't a mistake.

[keen star]

https://tenor.com/view/do-better-faith-garden-beloved-fg-beloved-gif-6650850066108464077

[fallow lake]

You give them too much credit. I don't think they knew how much progress was actually able to be made in the temporal artifact loop.

[crimson girder]

They knew about this on day one(maybe day 3). It was shown on stream and praised

[nova sierra]

You overestimate just how effective they are. Most are broken and don’t even work. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[fallow lake]

Speaking of things that don't work. Pelia does not operate as she should against the elite solo wave hostiles.

[twilit prairie]

Not body was really happy with the fit arc. Know everybody can hate it

[limber steeple]

This DTI change does the opposite of what it's advertised to do. The big spenders have already taken advantage of no cooldown. You've just made it take longer for the rest of us to level up and bridge the power gap. The game is dramatically more unbalanced than it was yesterday

[lusty fable]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sensible-chuckle-funny-laugh-gif-17326052 your playing the wrong game if you want balance, game is chock full of pay to win bs

[fallow lake]

Ah, the balance was that krill were going to bridge the gap to close to the whales. A few dolphins should be needed to beat up one whale, but krill should never ever stand even a small chance 🤣

[brave spire]

#De-NerfDTI

[grave quest]

time for a german lesson. “schadenfreude” sh-ah-den-froy-da. it’s like…. watching a grotesque car accident. you just can’t look away. that’s the current stfc experience. it’s in game as well as discord. you know nothing good will ever come of it yet you just don’t stop.

#freeDTI

[topaz berry]

Sees the trivia event thing for 1st starfleet ship with cloaking device they seem to have missed the right answer.. ;o where's U.S.S. Pegasus? ;o

[oak hawk]

You need better economists involved ... Ask each this simple question Keynes vs Hayek? ....

Really, the level of understanding of economics by the leadership .... Just go read more Thomas Sowell.

[hexed gull]

courtesy of rev's discord. #freedti

[keen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/enriquecamposc-gif-23156265

8 hours later. No plan yet?

<@&509690795536941056>

[tidal notch]

There's update coming tomorrow.

[coarse sage]

Tomorrow they'll shorten the timers like they're doing everyone a favor.

[keen loom]

More than likely it will be a double of current claims. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[hollow ridge]

That will completely and totally save face. 💯 fix things. Everybody likes being infuriated about a video game. It’s part of the experience.

[coarse sage]

They can't do anything nice for players that have made them millions upon millions of dollars. People still have a few bucks stashed under their mattress. They are trying to figure out how to get that too.

[stiff oxide]

@tidal notch i need some help and you are the one i was told to talk to

[tidal notch]

Sent you a friend request.

[mossy acorn]

We'll be watching

I'd kinda like to buy that $50 choice pack to get a ship skin. But with what was announced today, I'd always feel sick about the timing of when I bought it.

#freeDTI

[lime crag]

why did you do this to me 😦

[tidal notch]

Oh. I know there will be a lot of interest.

[vast nest]

Full reversal or we actually riot

[daring wasp]

That will be not acceptable.

[tidal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-i-get-it-brennan-gif-24350017

[muted shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-no-you-dont-dont-gif-14864091

[keen roost]

#FreeDTI

[lime crag]

#LagFree

[molten jungle]

I hope for a full reversal, but this time, I expect some sort of dumb adjustment that will not appease players at all.

[hollow ridge]

As I understand it, if you ignore your customers long enough they stop complaining and go away. As someone with years of experience in supporting customer facing e-commerce websites, the best thing to do at this point is delete this channel and pretend we don’t exist. Eventually we, the customers will go away and you won’t have to deal with our spam.

[stiff oxide]

I just want my latinum back....

[vast nest]

Thats why we spend tonight sharpening the pitchforks and soaking the torches

[twilit prairie]

I second that

[old leaf]

Just wanted to say, i’m still pretty unhappy about the DTI faction nerf. Fair notice would have been much better accepted by the community. Most of us don’t want new content that we can max on day 1. That seems to be what would happen if scopley released new temporal artifacts. we want meaningful content that we can grind towards or acquire (for some) to enhance our experience and make the game more fun. I think it’s reasonable to nerf the DTI store right as the next arc launches and roll it back for now.

[next drift]

#freeDTI

[hollow ridge]

Except I maxed out janeway pocket watch. Hit my base and I laugh as you deal no iso damage. This change helps ensure others can’t do the same.

[fading bramble]

Hey Commander,

As part of ongoing game balance improvements, we've added a cooldown to the following DTI chests:
• Janeway's pocket watch
• Chronophage
• Chrono Deflector
• Krenim Time Weapon
• Hugh + leslie officer chest
• Khan + leslie officer chest
• Byr shards
• Vael shards
• Tolra shards
• Toli shards
is joke ?

#freeDTI

[barren arch]

#freeDTI

[rare vale]

If Scopely actually listens to the players as they claim to, they'll reverse the awful changes to the DTI. The comments since this morning are almost all about how awful the change is. It is universally detested by players of all levels.

If not, guess it just proves they don't actually listen (which many of us already suspect).

[nova sierra]

. They are serious, and I am not giving them a penny until they roll that back

[fading bramble]

this faction was a jewel of the game, difficult armada but the rewards were top notch and we were already limited by the number of credits, many players kept the credits in stock for event expenses, with a timer we punished thousands of players.

[teal lance]

I struggled with DTI faction for a while, but focused on it because the end goals were pretty nice. I'm 2 days away from max rep and could've made use of Janeway's Watch to get the extra temporal thingies, but the cooldown has killed the motivation. I've saved so I could've maxed and then had a bunch of epic temporal artifacts finally lvled up. But pulling the rug nearly 5 months after release is a bit of a slap in the face. Very demotivating and will join terran store as some thing I check in on occasionally. #freeDTI

[wide solstice]

Yes I've actually got janways watch and krenim time weapon lvl locked to lvl 10 then used buying extra to max all the other temporal artifacts, them saying this is a balanced answer it will take people months and months to catch up on what I've done now

[hollow ridge]

Comrade this change is glorious. Peasants will struggle to keep up and you will emerge victorious

[spiral basalt]

I'm arriving a bit late, but heard they nerfed the DTI. What did they put a cooldown on that wasn't there before? #FREEDTI NEVER MIND. Found it. Naturally they instantly blocked me for saying you know what....

[woeful nymph]

If you ignore this Scopely, it won't go away. Just like if you ignore an infection, it will spread and infect everything else. You may end up amputating part of your playerbase by ignoring them.

[vale falcon]

#freeDTI

[vale wasp]

It's not being ignored. Hammy said that details were coming tomorrow.

[crystal sapphire]

They probably mean information on their leak is coming tomorrow. Or how adding timers to the DTI is a game improvement LOL

[keen loom]

None the less information is coming. If we have to discuss it again tomorrow we will. I would hope Scopley isn’t planning the same mistake for tomorrow.

[woeful nymph]

It's frightening how easily such a negative change gets put out without consulting a single member of the playerbase. I'm not sure what the point is of a player council and tests when Scopely doesn't even bother to ultilize them appropriately

[fading bramble]

what is infernal is that many players save their credit because there was no timer and they find themselves with a destroyed faction, if we had been informed 24/48 hours in advance we would have spent everything before.

[vale falcon]

I've been back spending because I was starting to think scopely may actually have their act together. Then this... Making it easier to hold on to my money... Really not smart when you're trying to increase spend and retain folks...
#freeDTI
#NoMoreMoneyFromMe

[urban anvil]

I’m the 1% who maxed DTI about 2 months ago. I didn’t buy anything for it yet just max ground the thing out and reaped the benefits. Had maxed the artifacts and claimed since then to finish about 6-7 10k tasks with the trade down for alliance tourneys. I realize I’m at the end game with DTI content but stand with my fellow commanders that had just got to that promised land of being able to reap the benefits like I did. #freeDTI

[hollow ridge]

Same. I have max artifacts but not officers, but I pushed this hard to my 100 player alliance.

[fallow lake]

We need to just remove these types of save and spend in bulk solo leaderboard events. Let us grow as we get currency.

[brazen ravine]

#FREE DTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quasi wren]

Really a cool down on stuff that has no cool down? The section alone has a cool down on how much currency you get daily. Did someone complain about losing a SLB because a F2P had saved their currency just for that? You already have a ton of gates set in that store. It doesn't need more

[rotund shale]

Honestly I can’t see the reasoning for changing this other than f2p temporal artifacts for tournaments. Roll it back please, this is bad. #FreeDTI

[heavy needle]

#freedti!

[vale falcon]

The DTI rewards are already gated behind player development, directive sourcing and the currency. It's stupid putting another barrier
#freeDTI

[boreal ferry]

apparently the whales are complaining too

[quasi wren]

Disagree. I am a F2P and need these types of events to get the currency to upgrade other things. If you want to get rid of SLBs how about the P2W ones that have no F2P paths to compete?

[ashen atlas]

I would like the community manager talk about the DTI changes. I think this is not a good move at all since this is a change, long after the introduction of the DTI. You have to revert the change.

[winged bison]

@raw fiber @tidal notch #freedti Rollback this change, there are plenty of other quality of life improvements that should be focused on rather than a fake balancing act. Please explain this to the community.

[trail zenith]

This company is loaded with money grabs. You throw your community managers under the bus. You consistently screw your player base. The "quality over quantity" garbage that you made Bex spew a YEAR ago was no different than smoke up our collective arses. My dog could leave better ideas in my yard than you present to us. This is where the meme of the bad idea guy getting thrown out the window applies.

[acoustic geyser]

Good Metrics For scopely, time played. Bad metrics for players, time played. It's at odds. So they introduced good metrics for scopely at the cost of good metrics for players

[fervent kiln]

and how many hours of dumpster fires and ill-feelings is it worth to wait on that communication? At this point, I'm going to assume, it's all bad anyway.

[proper coral]

I’m concerned with the recent DTI faction cooldowns that were added. The content is already time gated by the amount of static/charge credits a player has and the additional time gate feels punitive.

[burnt viper]

It's also gated by the slow directives sourcing. As a mostly battle pass player i can do these one a week just to not run dry on the currency exchang for credits.

[burnt gazelle]

Cool downs are dumb. always have been. But to retroactively apply one and tell us it is because we're advancing too fast is the height of ridiculousness. HashtagFREEDTI hashtagCOOLDOWNSAREDUMB

[fallow lake]

I'm not saying remove the rewards. Remove/reimagine/reinvent/etc. But, no more hoard to win or pay to win events.

[trail zenith]

I'd revisit my earlier comments of how completely more on ick these changes are and need to be reversed. Your decision making sukks and only alienates your player base further. FreeDTI and get your heads on straight

[native adder]

@rigid vapor Which is it? Postponed or now early tomorrow??? It would be nice if the affected servers had a clue where they stand!!!

It’s after midnight in the UK, after 1am on mainland Europe so you’re basically giving us ZERO notice. What an absolute farce!

[jaunty fog]

They would have to care.....but they keep proving they don't.

[thin magnet]

#Free DTI

[trail zenith]

Just walked my dog. Picked up a better idea than the DTI change. I have it in a bag. Want to see it?

[foggy elm]

Its good to be back after being muted this morning for posting the now forbidden hashtag...one time

[thin magnet]

Witch forbidden hashing?

[strange pulsar]

#freeDTI

[civic haven]

#FreeHammy

[vast nest]

#FreeTal

[surreal condor]

And Darwin!

[frail crane]

@Scopley this is seriously messed up. You’re merging servers! No sorry about that… now incursions is back on! No, we lied, merger back on and in literally hours. You really don’t care about the players at all.

[lone ore]

^ this

[mighty imp]

#FreeDTI.

oh wait! Something beneficial for F2P? Oh lol forget about that, that’s not happening 🤷🏻‍♂️

[surreal condor]

Just to clarify, so I pass the right feedback to Scopely: is your concern the back and forth on merger or did you have a question about whether you're merging and incurring at the same time?

[nova rock]

Both. Scopley's communication about this has been shockingly bad. One minute the merger is on, then cancelled, then on again. It's ridiciolus

[thin magnet]

#freeDTI

[native adder]

@surreal condor My concern, for what it’s worth, is not knowing from one minute to the next what’s happening. Announcing it after midnight UK time, after 1am Central European time means that players are going to wake up to reset territory and mid server merge.

A week’s motive at minimum wouldn’t be asking too much - it’s holiday season.

[surreal condor]

Totally fair. I'll make sure the team is aware of how difficult this becomes for players to plan around.

[mental cloud]

And that it's happening a day earlier than originally scheduled with less than a 12 hour notice @surreal condor

[plucky wind]

The question is there is two cnflicting messages one on the website one in the in game news which one is right?

[tidal notch]

I like this one!

[surreal condor]

They are going forward

As of 2 hours ago

I'm going to put a legal disclaimer on that though just in case

[split harbor]

@rigid vapor Free DTI store!!!

[hollow ridge]

Ban these players typing Free DTI! For the collective good! Their opinion is heresy

[tidal notch]

We're not banning anyone unless they spam.

[plucky wind]

So less then 24 hrs notice and an incursion at same time? 😬 this is very confusing. <@&509690795536941056>

[alpine siren]

Ridiculous, rubbish communication (told it was postponed, then suddenly moved forward and having this dropped on us with literally hours notice!), no time to prepare alliance members, no time to get properly situated before incursions, no clue which server we're even fighting because both merging servers still have their matches listed.

[tidal notch]

Pretty sure the merged servers will be on a bye week, but I'm confirming.

[uneven karma]

I cannot believe how incompetent this server merge/ incursions/ server merge has been handled. Do any of you there have any idea what is happening? Where is the official announcement? Do you even understand how much work goes into this from an alliance point of view, especially when not only are we server merging but alliance merging too. I just can't believe how badly this has been handled. Do better.

[tidal notch]

I think Merged servers will be on a bye week. I'm confirming

[dapper bramble]

Eesh today was a day of dropped balls. Hopefully we can all wake up tomorrow with everything reverted and chalk it up to a bad dream

[alpine siren]

Bye weeks should have been confirmed before it was announced

[plucky wind]

Just trying to figure which message is real. In 24 hrs gone from merge to incursion to 2 different statements 1 on website 1 in game.

[hollow ridge]

lol. ok sure. screenshots on other discords would indicate otherwise. I'm pretty keen on this because I pushed DTI/relativity so hard on my alliance... of 100 players..... and now i'm a donkey orifice for benefiting from it and they can't.

[quasi wren]

Want something reimagined? Try only running the FC 1 time a month

[stark night]

Thumbs down for nerfing the DTI faction store pulls.

[fallow lake]

Yes, just like the new officer recruit SMS structure. 15 days where all your spending has value. Do one for FTs and CTs, specialty ships, materials, power, officer shards, etc. And, go ahead and give double points for the new stuff for the month if they want.

[tidal notch]

Merge is on. pretty sure about the bye week for merged servers, but am double checking.

[plucky wind]

Just wanna add this is pathetic communication. I know not your fault hammy just frustrated.

[tidal notch]

Confirmed. Merged servers will be on a bye week.

[surreal condor]

@trail zenith it's against the rules here to circumvent automod by posting the screenshot... It moderated your language, not your opinion.

[languid thunder]

I love how the rage brings out the artist in people! Some of the best pics I’ve seen! #freeDTI

[frail crane]

first, they announced a date of May 2nd. Then they announced it’s postponed and that were doing incursions. Now, days later, it’s back on an earlier than announced, which gives us hours to reach our alliance members. Why can’t things like this be announced a a month ahead of time? I mean even a week would be better. But hours?!?!

[surreal condor]

Yeah, I get it.

On the plus side, Hammy just said you guys get a bye week from incursions

At least it isn't double whammy

[agile slate]

Why does scopley constantly want to beat down the f2p as if it wasnt already unbalanced enough as is. Every new prime, officer, ship is behind either a paywall or an extreme grind/timegate (which lets be real no amount of grind to scopley is enough to match $). Why is there still no way to earn a 2nd builder or researcher? How much more of a gap do you want, then now you want to top off by adding more cooldowns to the dti store?

[languid thunder]

@trail zenith moderated again! 😬😬 #freeDTI #willnotstop

[native adder]

This is ludicrous given the time it was announced in European timezones - the plug should be pulled and mergers delayed until Scopely can give us something that actually resembles notice.

[stuck jay]

....at least these servers are saved from the double whammy.....

[trail zenith]

Okay, let's try this again since deleting my comments is a favorite past time.

I'm not insulting people, I'm insulting the complete unintelligent decisions made by those people. This is a complete regression. The hole being dug only gets deeper. This change is horrible, unnecessary, ill-timed, and thoughtless. The fact that no notice was given proves they thought ripping off the bandage would let them get away with it.

No player should let them. If you aren't getting your messages deleted you aren't trying hard enough.

#FreeDTI #FreeTheF2P

[broken surge]

Can someone explain to me whats going on

[daring wasp]

#freeDTI

[civic haven]

They added cooldowns on DTI and somehow called it an improvement (lol): #⭐-official-announcements message

[urban anvil]

Something that hasn’t had cooldowns in…..idk…..4-5 months since it launched and 100% did not need, there were already enough gates

[daring wasp]

No. Regardless of if it’s a mistake or not, you have left it alone for 4 MONTHS! Bite the bullet and suck it up. Find another way to string arm spending. This is not the way

[unreal ember]

I was surprised when I initially found the lack of cooldowns in the DTI faction store - pleasantly surprised.

Of course, we can’t have that. The bone that was tossed to the skin-and-bones dog of F2P was clawed back. Even without cooldowns, there was natural pacing. Can only earn so many credits at a time, lower levels have it tougher.

There is no balance to be had by taking it away after months. That only makes the player gap larger.

#freeDTI

[trail zenith]

I just talked to Gaila and she said "I'd happily take back the terrible change they made to my ability back to prevent the even more terrible thing they've done to the DTI faction. I also would like to #FreeDTI."

I didn't get it on tape, but trust me bro.

[civic haven]

For the record, I don’t care. But ppl seem very upset.

[sullen pier]

Our first merge which was the first post global launch one, we got in game news saying there would be a merge, there would be events prior and info would be shared over the coming weeks.45 minutes later we went into maintenance unannounced and an hour later were on another server. Its not a new thing to have garbage comms around mergers.

[final flower]

Time will tell - they could still throw an incursion in as it seems the flip around like a fish on their decision making.

[finite raft]

wasn't this supposed to help us move Hugh's progress along faster? only need 401 more days now!!! grrrrr

[nova sierra]

That is faster if you go by the developer's definition of fast

[vast nest]

Sorry that was only for people who bought the ship day one, not those getting it f2p

[cyan torrent]

I feel like I know what the overwhelming response is going to be every time Scopely sends out a message saying something about listening to player feedback in the future... FreeDTI

[copper pecan]

#Freedti!

[glad tree]

#FreeDTI !

[carmine marten]

1. The change to DTI was totally unnecessary and unhelpful. It's been like this for months, plenty of time for players to accept it as standard since Scopely never said otherwise. This is a horrible precedent to take MONTHS to decide "well actually..." and then change something out of the blue

2. This announcement came with zero warning and zero heads up. If it was guaranteed this change was going to happen and be done regardless, the least that could have been done was announce it ahead of time, and let people use the system they've been used to and burn whatever credits they wanted

Two points of total and complete breakdown. Please do better, please free the DTI

[warped willow]

I honestly can't believe they haven't reverted it yet. Guess they are done with this game <@&509690795536941056>s.

[trail zenith]

This is the biggest donkey show of an update I've seen in my years of playing.

[warped willow]

Make sure they know that turning thier back to thier players will not go unnoticed.

[trail zenith]

Quite the opposite. The players are getting it from the backside.

[crystal wyvern]

#FreeDTI

[carmine yew]

I like the DontTimeIt that should have been the hashtag 😅

[half wadi]

Where is the Comp chest for the reroll issues with AT? When we voice our opinions we are muted and slow moed...but hey..we got loops and new ships planned..86 is begging for a merge while others are getting merge who don't want it..

[prisma portal]

Can someone please explain to me why a timer needed to be added to items that were already bottlenecked by Stingy Directive sourcing AND a timer on the currency? <@&509690795536941056>

[trail zenith]

Scroll back 12 hours and know there's multiple deleted messages in outrage as well.

[warped willow]

How else can they milk a sinking ship?
Force people to wait or pay the price.
A price that everyone prior didn't have to pay.

[vast nest]

We didn't get a good answer today. Possibly more info tomorrow but for now the main speculation is because the f2p unlock of the ship with a solid 100% grind would get the ship in a week so gotta make the changes now before the peasants get the ship. Also possibly in preparation for whatever next months patch will include

[rustic quarry]

Pretty bad change today Scopely regarding the DTI store.

[mild bobcat]

Can't wait to see what I won't be buying in the next arc!

[final plinth]

While I highly disagree with the decision(s) made today, as they are a slap into the face of the playerbase - I assume they realized that some synergy with purchasing this stuff breaks (parts) of their next arc. Like you could buy the timeweapon pieces and refine them for temporal stuff.

[nova sierra]

I heard around town if we #FreeDTI we get a vacation from this channel? 🤣

[quick coral]

#freeDTI

[feral jewel]

#freeDTI

[tired mountain]

Hey Scopely, <@&509690795536941056> @tidal notch,

What’s the deal with the new timers on the DTI refinery? This feels completely unnecessary and honestly just slows everything down for no reason. The DTI already had its own unique mechanics, and now you’ve added an extra layer of frustration with these arbitrary time gates. Limits exist on the daily directives, having to do both Static and Charged Krenims, and pulling the anassociated chests.

Players were finally getting into the groove with Temporal Investigations, and now you’ve turned it into another waiting game. It doesn’t feel like a strategic change—it feels like a stall tactic, oppositive of your goal to getting players to Ops up.

Please reconsider this. Nobody asked for more timers. We just want to play and progress without feeling punished for engaging with new content, catching up on officers and not waiting for years to max them.

#FreeDTI

[unkempt jolt]

#FreeDTI

[slow elbow]

#freedti

[golden violet]

RIP - Deleted Account 😦
SINN3R
Ops: 70 BORG S701 Power: 4,399,722,610

[opal crane]

Ehhhhh I'm back after getting muted for protesting Scopely's anti-player decisions! Prison does things to you..... What was it that we're not allowed to say?

[wide cloak]

Welp, looks like the first confirmed 70 quitting over this fiasco. More likely will leave... and these are the folks less affected from the DTI mess. While I'm glad an announcement is coming tomorrow, the delay means the answer is likely not going to be what the player base wants.

If we don't get the DTI back to where I can catch up to the 70s with maxed pocket watches, I see zero point in continuing to try to play this game. I've invested thousands of dollars in the game and realize more and more how many poor decisions have been made since joining this game in December 2019.

[sand tide]

Yeah, how is time gating something that spenders have already has access to and maxed "balancing?" It's putting the ftp ship earners years behind on acquisition of max officers.

[golden violet]

SINN3R didn't quit from DTI but did from this month events, his account was deleted last night

[silent gorge]

Same here mate.

Just don't forget to #FreeDTI in the morning.

Since the mods want to silence any opposition to this poor course of action and are taking the most liberal meaning of spam to justify a crackdown on fair feedback from the masses.

It's a new timegate to ensure the free to play people are further disenfranchised and so they can milk whatever remaining money there is.

[worn sorrel]

Good evening Scopely Overlords, <@&509690795536941056> @tidal notch

I literally just got promoted in the DTI Faction Store and was SUPER EXCITED to find out that you just implemented cool down timers. I mean what a great and wonderful idea you all had. I can not express enough how immensely productive you just made my in game growth...

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS why did you think this was a good idea. Every time you limit a game mechanic after having it available for an extended period of time you make players such as myself wonder why we continue to spend our money and our time on a game you refuse to fix, improve, etc... you always parade @royal solar out in front out us touting quality of life improvements and you only ever partially deliver on that promise. It is almost as if you don't actually care about the community that has kept this game alive and profitable for you these past 6 years.

Such a disappointment... you should be ashamed of yourselves.

[lean fable]

<@&509690795536941056>
If Scopely was worried about power imbalance with unlimited DTI store pulls they should've done this on day 2.
By this point all the spenders have these maxed out. So putting a timer in place only keeps that power gap in place for longer.

[tidal notch]

We don't want to silence players, but server rules still apply. Please be constructive in your posts. Hashtags and memes are ok. but please be aware of server guidelines.

[oak hawk]

#FreeDTI

[wide cloak]

I'm happy to hear #FreeDTI is acceptable to post again.

[silent gorge]

Server rules intentionally in place to prevent collective push back from the player base, like when Candle was deleting/muting anyone posting a similar message 🤷🏻‍♂️

Right, you want constructive feedback.

This was a blind jab in the gut by the Scopely team about a feature that was well known and broadcast since release, and just as F2P players are reaching unlocking the ship and being able to spend credits on other items you decide to suddenly "balance" this months old feature, even though there are much older features that nothing has been done about.

You've had players that spent get months of bonus out of this, and now when many others are starting to reach that level you've decided to punish them.

You've grasped loss from the hands of victory, you had a feature that people were happy with and you've destroyed that good will, and these changes should be reverted and learned from. Fix it during the release arc or leave it alone like you've done with every other issue and every other broken promise (like Quality over Quantity).

[tidal notch]

We are not stopping collective player pushback. I've been here for over 10 hours so far today, and I can tell you that players have been able to express their opinions. I'm just asking that players be aware of what's over the line.

[warped willow]

Perhaps Scopely should be made aware of what's over the line, seeing as they are the ones that crossed it. Lol.

[silent gorge]

And I've been here since Sim posted the announcement and watched posts deleted and players muted.

You talk about crossing the line, but your mods changed the goal to justify banning more for spam.

The fact that there was zero willingness to address this same day shows that the voice of the player is dead, even your content creators are calling this out.

Good night, I'm out, no point engaging in a place like this anymore for a dying game.

[warped willow]

Well yeah, he said he's been here ten hours, scopely had to have someone stand guard with that ban hammer. 😅

Oh and sad attempts to justify this atrocity. Lol

[wise oxide]

#FreeDTI

[boreal ferry]

i’ve seen one meme posted by different ppl deleted at least twice… one was ok whatever bc he told ppl how to email scopely directly but the other was just the meme… how spam?

[rapid garden]

@tidal notch if that is true, why are comments with hashtags being deleted and why are we getting server warnings for being "political " ? Do f2p players really have a voice here?

[wide cloak]

To be fair, I don't think anyone crossed a line today that I saw... got pretty close to it, but nothing that was outright demeaning towards anyone or spamming to block the opinions of others. But for at least a few hours, harmless hashtags were censored by both a mod and the auto mod and some in the community were muted for expressing the viral hashtag that many in the community are rallying around.

There are definitely heightened emotions at play today and in days like this it may be best to only remove and mute the most egregious of comments that clearly are in violation. I appreciate that you have said the hashtags and images are allowed to be reposted... but that was definitely not the case earlier today.

[cyan torrent]

1. Paywalled behind buying the ship
2. Gated behind directives
3. Gated behind exocomps
4. Gated by level of krenim that you can hit
5. Gated behind credits refinery
   And now 6. Gated behind another redemption cooldown

The term 'balance' by definition implies something on both sides. Looks pretty one sided to me. Free DTI.

[ashen falcon]

Yall really just gated DTI just before we get our ships. Free DTI!!!

[hollow ridge]

lol. I wish I had video of the messages being deleted from this channel. It was frequent. This was a huge perk and reward for players and y’all couldn’t take the win and had to fork it all up. Good grief it was a brain absent decision.

[indigo summit]

#FreeDTI!!!

[neat pier]

I take it pay to play is now dead as paying makes progression unbalanced.

[proven hound]

No they don’t! For Scopley the best customer is a silent one that just opens the wallet for whatever poor content. And when after nearly a hundred days F2P is able to unlock Relativity the need balancing.
Can only encourage every1 to watch Rev‘s Twitch stream from last night
#freeDTI

[lilac wyvern]

#freeDTI

[errant brook]

You did.
Ask @Candle who muted me for 8 hours because i wrote #F.ree.DTI once!
Scopely Management is so far away from player base that nobody should invest in this greedy mess anymore!

[hollow plover]

#freeDTI

Problem and probably main reason how this is received is less the change itself, it is the timing of it.

Almost three month it doesn't seem to be a problem at all, people who bought that ship already enjoyed the DTI-shop. They get extras in the introduction battlepass, so why not as well from the fraction shop.
But just couple of days before the first F2P-players are able to unlock the ship and therefore less limited how to invest the already limited credits (gated by directives and exo's and strength) you decided to "balance" it. Doing so after maybe 4 weeks would be less of a trouble.

But now? This feels like a punch in the face, especially for light spenders - it is just an additional burden.

BTW, talking about time gates: after almost two years i am still working on maxing out a D'Vor - without buying half of a Feesha from some event shop some time ago, i would still be stucked without a Feesha, in the mid of Ops 50-60!

So yeah, time gates are awesome... but the size of your gates seems to be exaggerated.

[hard geode]

Bevore the Incursion will there be 3 hours purge again?

[errant brook]

@vale wasp that's the definition of spamming. What you did is censorship and muting opinions.
All those players who have been muted deserve a official apology at least.

[proven hound]

They just stick to what is common „freedom of speech“ in the US these days

[dusky zealot]

Are you serious Scopely, server merge in few hours?
Thanks for not listening to your players though 👎 People should be fired for this action!

👉 163 Hasperat forever 👈

[crude yarrow]

Really, Scopely? First you announce a merger, then cancel it, only to go ahead with it? I can't think of any suitable words for that!

[grand bison]

I hope the spenders get refunds on credits and reputation packs? I talked to my lawyer already, seems like an easy win.

[slate pawn]

#freeDTI

[dapper bramble]

lol if people bought currency and now cant spend it, thats a bit yikes

[frigid geode]

Regarding this: #⭐-official-announcements message
Nice, now that you've done the buyers a favor and the first f2p Relativity are coming, it's all over. Too bad and somehow not fair.

[unreal saddle]

#FREEDTI

[bright reef]

No offense but I'm pretty sure the line was crossed at $150 game packs many years ago now

[carmine marten]

Current feedback, I remain wholly apathetic towards the game and don’t honestly care about new arc, new events, even revamped weekly events with better rewards. All things that should be exciting but I find myself still reeling from the horrible DTI change that had a horrible roll out. It makes me question why in a game of all things I subject myself to such ridiculous and toxic treatment

[kind rampart]

#freeDTI

[proven hound]

Still wondering why these ingame purchases are that popular.
Good old times when you paid 70 bucks for a AAA title and 50 for a nearly as big as basic game extension.
You guys can all decide on your own if you think you get any value for the money spent. I still don’t know what made me buy that Cube Battlepass 2 years ago. But it has been the last. Ever since.
I love the community here but a treatment like that the past 18 hours makes me moving away from it.
#freeDTI

[harsh valve]

1hour ... Yawn

[bright reef]

Yeah well one section of a game being pay to access certain parts isn't gonna stop me playing it may lead to it if other future factions get the same outcome the least they can do is make it a reasonable price the avg Joe can afford if there gonna keep it as is we ain't all game devs or coders that make over 3k per week

[daring wasp]

<@&509690795536941056> I know it’s not your fault but not only is the dti change absolutely unacceptable, but the companies silence and attempt to apparent strategy to wait out our anger and not do anything is appalling. Sadly this stance has absolutely
Undone all of the good will your company has built with the community over the last 6 months. This is worse than gailagate. How do you expect your players to want to continue to support your company and product financially when you show such obvious disrespect for the people who are paying your bills.

[proven hound]

Bet this will be removed soon again

[trail halo]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-snoring-zzz-the-simpsons-bart-simpson-gif-20389926 now over 2 hrs since merge started. Still not completed

[fading bramble]

the only way to make them understand that we don't agree with this change of rules on the DTI faction is not to buy items in their store, they only think about money and they modify the game against the players. they are just thieves.

[meager hound]

So we are still waiting for merge to finish for 193. Told 1 hour and been over 2 hours with no update. Usual Scopely BS.

[iron drift]

<@&509690795536941056> is there any updates on the down time for Server Merge (specifically 193 >188). We only got final confirmation that this was happening today about 10 hours ago, whilst the bulk of APAC users are at work.

Now we are sitting here at nearly 2.5 hours - some of us havent gotten dailies or events done as we would do them at night. When we dont have adequate annoucements of the merge its a little hard to plan.

Can we find out any info on how much longer please?

[dawn sequoia]

<@&509690795536941056>
I have been the recipient over the last few months of the excellent dti store and the benefits that could be derived. I see today’s post about changes to that store and feel frustrated, annoyed and generally pi ssed off. - not for me but more for all the f2p that have just got/getting the relativity and are now getting this great store only to find it has been nerfed with no great explanation.
I am amazed sometimes how scopley can really turn a success in to an abject failure

[meager hound]

LOL Sorce, it’s probably more about what it is they have broken that they need to fix.

[storm oracle]

#FreeDTI

[somber ledge]

@raw fiber Just wanted to add my own feedback about this recent DTI change and how it's affecting me. I have now chosen to never spend money on this game as it's really obvious that there's little respect for the actual people playing the game & the only thing that is important to the company appears to be the almighty Dollar. I choose to not partake in that and I will do the only sensible thing; Choose to vote with my wallet. Simple. Effective.

[proven hound]

#freeDTI stop bullying F2P players they are needed for the spenders too.

[tiny axle]

I have not yet reached the level to take advantage of the DTI faction; however, Scopely's conduct in this matter is intolerable. They may believe they can evade consequences, but if we, the players, collectively cease playing (by activating a shield for a week) and refrain from spending, they will quickly understand the repercussions. Ultimately, it is our financial contributions that sustain their operations and yield profits for shareholders.

[unreal saddle]

Not even cent from my wallet for scopely #FreeDTI

[proven hound]

Just you know what you pay for 🤣

[sharp salmon]

So 188 merger , 5 years of climbing the ladder , scopley please explain why , as now we have dropped dramatically down the ladder , time to leave

[jaunty fog]

I don't know guys, maybe this DTI change is for the better? I spent a LOT less time in the game last night. Maybe that's the balance, Get of the game and quit giving them so much of your time and money.

[proven hound]

Yeah, if it stays I’ll move on to something else. Summer ahead so more time for things that matter and not bothering how the overlords will limiting game fun.
#freeDTI

[warped willow]

<@&509690795536941056>s Are they going to refund all of the packs for the currencies that people bought under the pretense of being able to spend that currency? Or are they cool with the players knowing they pulled a bait and switch?

[jaunty fog]

Scopely doesn't care about the players, only their wallets.

[silent zephyr]

Hello all, have any you experienced gamers know why 'Syndicate XP' is not being realised. I got loads via 'Sarris' event but nothing pulling through?

[muted osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/they're-nonrefundable-oldgays-no-refunds-you-won't-get-your-money-back-gif-8664588328818627109

[waxen patio]

#freeDTI

[zinc terrace]

#freedti

[vivid nebula]

#freedti

[peak zenith]

#freeDTI

[grave hawk]

#freeDTI

They "fixed" DTI yet can't fix this and it's been 6 months. <@&509690795536941056>

[agile slate]

Choices like these made by scopley is why they will never earn anything from me. It was apparent long ago that no matter how much you grinded they never really valued it the same as cold hard cash. Changes like this make it obvious and now more ppl can finally see the disgusting greed and wallet grabbing.

[quick coral]

#freeDTI

[proven hound]

Easy reason doesn’t generate income and you should be used to reboot the ab a dozen times a day.
Don’t come them with stuff like quality

[molten jungle]

Punishing players is priority #1. Bugs come dead last.

[glossy trellis]

Really adding cooldowns? That’s just very slow down and you actually nerfing last good thing in that many clicking….you succefully slowly killing my will to keep playing this game (ops 67 player) 👋

[wide cloak]

It has reached 24 hours since we were notified the overlords were stripping us of our precious DTI. Where's the announcement we were told was coming? #FreeDTI

[cyan torrent]

The deafening silence and tactic of hunkering down until the storm passes is almost as disappointing as the decision itself.

[humble sable]

So, let me just run this back, we open this pretty sweet faction store, people who spend a lot of money and buy everything basically had first dibs into the store, they get the loot without any cooldowns since they can afford it with the additional currency, then now, when the f2p path is finally about to get the rel, oh, we need to “make it fair” and out cooldowns. What the actual bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep. I could understand a couple days in, oh we made a mistake…but basically right when people, who wouldn’t buy the stupid packs anyways, get a chance, you squash it like a bug. And right on time for a spend currency event I might add.

I have disagreed with things in the past, but this one takes the cake.

And as FreeDTI so eloquently put, instead of any reaction, you hide in the corner and hope we will forget, we won’t, I am sure you have seen the many memes already made in OH honor.

And to put I bluntly, I spend money when things are going well in game, now, no more, so enjoy my silence with my pocket book.

🖖 🐒

[warped willow]

They decided that the cash advantage that whales have wasn't enough, they needed to start coding in more advantages.

Edit: I'm ops 67 and already have unlocked/maxed most of the things on the list, at least for my current level. But I believe that everyone should have the same access that I got. I don't even have the ship yet. Lol.

[humble wharf]

Well, let's be fair here. There's a lot of opposition to the DTI shop changes on the whale discord. All of us there think it's a shameful move. And try to exert what little leverage we have to bring the message #FreeDTI

[halcyon mortar]

#freeDTI

[warped willow]

Oh no doubt, I'm just pointing out that they are driving a knife deeper into the f2p peoples chest. Not that this is particularly welcomed by whales, me myself being a fairly avid spender.. At least until recently lol.

[wide cloak]

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Some companies, you just can't reach... so you get what we had here yesterday, which is the way they want it... so we get it.
I don't like this any more than you commanders.

#FreeDTI

[gaunt horizon]

Did my daily pulls and there's still timer on the DTI faction pulls #FreeDTI

[humble wharf]

As a whale I depend on f2p to make this game fun. I depend on my (fantastic) alliance on EU125 and all the members to make spending time in STFC worthwhile.. And stuff like this makes players detach and leave. And it's the same for every whale. #FreeDTI

[grave quest]

that’s why we don’t let the storm stop. #FreeDTI and may e decide not to buy packs until the decision is reversed? not calling for a ban but these monsters only listen to money. so….

[opal crane]

What do you mean? Their thoughts and prayers are with us... They've listened and relayed our grievances to themselves. #OneLikeOnePrayer

[umbral ingot]

#FreeDTI

[sharp socket]

lol I see the blocks and mutes have been lifted 😂😂. We told ham he was over stepping.

[azure island]

Tbf you all have the biggest leverage there is. Put the plastic card away for a month or 2. Then see what happens.

[proven hound]

#freeDTI
stop that farce and at least once listen to players.

@raw fiber @tidal notch <@&509690795536941056> when exactly is „there will be an update tomorrow“?
#freeDTI

[grave hawk]

He was.

[warped willow]

Careful, they might deem that spam.
#FreeDTI

[torpid cargo]

<@&509690795536941056> - FREE THE DTI store. This was not a good move on you all's part. This is something where you either need to restore it to what it was, or come on here and post how not having timers "unbalanced" the game. Explain to me why getting the things in that store will unbalance it for anyone. The only thing it unbalances is making this loop take less than two years to complete. Please explain to this group what you all fear from this unballanced store. #FreeDTI

[lunar ocean]

We should all change our names to #FreeDTI

[daring wasp]

#free-DTI

[opal crane]

At the end of the day, Scopely doesn't care what the peasants complain about. The whale that complained about this in the first place already spent more than all of the dolphins and mostly-F2P combined since the change went into effect.

The only people that Scopely will reverse course for are the whales. Going on the whale server and telling them they're done. Let them call your bluff.

Sans that, taking the complaints and the outage to more public channels. Tag Scopely, tag Savvy games on every social media you have. If the outage stays inside of discord, there's no external pressure for them to do the right thing.

Ya hya chouhada!

[cinder shadow]

guess yesterday is a day to forget of this game, they changed a game feature without notice, I was saving credits to use on the Cosmic Assets events, now I simply cant use it like it has been since day one of the DTI faction... and the new mission related to STRANGER'S ARRIVAL event is not working on my end...

[languid thunder]

#freeDTI

[rough belfry]

Why are these hostiles not considered invasion entities for officer abilities like Demarco and such? They only show up during the invasion event and have the special hostile label. Everything points to them being invasion entities but somehow they aren't? It's stupid.

[silk charm]

invading entities means the "not solo armadas" mechanic of chimeras & krenim

[keen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/well-waiting-caddyshack-gif-5385414

<@&509690795536941056>

[rough belfry]

Yes, I know. But its stupid based on the reasons I posted. They all should count as invasion entities

[unreal saddle]

So if my grandma have a wheelchair we can call her a bike?

[azure island]

Best. Analogy. Ever.

[rough belfry]

Don't be stupid like Scopely and use false analogies like that.

[unreal saddle]

Your statement is just ridiculous

[azure island]

You must know by now. Scopely logic dictates if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck it’s a Llama. 2+2 never equals 4, and you are guaranteed buyers remorse everytime you open your wallet. These are the facts. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[unreal saddle]

You forgot that 100% isn’t 100%

[gentle shale]

I’m giving the <@&509690795536941056> team a bit of grace in #FreeDTI because my work experience includes trying to get those who are convinced of the rightness of their decisions that they need to change it. Then the time it takes to change/undo the code implemented without inadvertently making something else go 💥.

I give the grace because I’ve been in that position & herding everyone towards a different option (whether total reversal or compromise) is like herding cats. Only worse. Cats react on instinct not surety of what they consider “right”.

I am also sure it will be a quasi-compromise v. total reversal. Gaila and Tal were never the same after being adjusted. Still more than what they had been originally. But less than what they were after change.

[cedar kiln]

<@&509690795536941056> at least be honest with us, this isn’t about an imbalance of power. This is about taking advantage of your user base’s impatience, manipulating us to spend more money.

[old leaf]

Hi it’s been over 24 hrs what’s the decision on the DTI faction? Again my position is that, I understand why the change was done but doing it all of the sudden after 4 months to give high levels and spenders a head start and then removing a core ability is not right. Where does it stop? You’ve tried this before with us and we didn’t like it and told you about it. Please make a reasonable change.

I for one do spend money in this game, not a lot, but some! Ive been playing for 6 years and i feel very ripped off right now, more than ever. And this absolutely discourages me from spending bc i don’t know what to expect from your company in the future.

[keen loom]

Wanna bet Scopley thought this would go away over night, and wake up to a community that doesn’t see though things instantly, and ❤️’s Scopley?

[lyric pawn]

Hey, I get it, from a 'game balance' perspective, having timers does make some sense.. But if that is why you would make that change, it should have been done IMMEDIATELY, not months later.. This is essentially just a (image of vulger finger wag) to many players.. #freeDTI..

[somber ledge]

More than anything, it was the blatant lies to try and spin this as a 'balance' rather than the cash-grab. THAT got my back up more than almost anything else

[wide cloak]

26 hours and counting. Time for the official response <@&509690795536941056>

[neat moss]

Count me amongst the Content Creators unhappy with the DTI changes...although I'm much more unhappy with HOW the changes were done, rather than the changes that were made.

[molten jungle]

Shouldn't have been changed after 4 whole months

[trail zenith]

#FreeDTI

[warm dirge]

#FreeDTI

[pure plover]

I see scopely still hiding after yesterday's screw up. Any mods been punished for insulting players or they allowed to get away with it?

[vivid nebula]

Business as usual according to scopely can’t even be bothered with an update other than to say an update is coming, been over 24hrs #freedti

[azure island]

Check your dti store @vivid nebula it gets better …..🤯

[mossy acorn]

Today would be a good day to #freeDTI

[quick gale]

Just like mergers.

Told You will be merged.

Told it’s Cancelled
Delete the cancellation post

News in base points to aprils incursions.

Communication FTW

[proven hound]

https://tenor.com/view/clock-watch-hurry-up-judge-judy-i-aint-got-time-for-that-gif-5406593

[grave quest]

let’s go @tidal notch , time to say something. like, that decision being rolled back because brokely doesn’t want us to feel like peasants that don’t matter, worse than scum and beneath contempt? Maybe an apology for being lied to that it had anything to do with “balancing”?

[crude urchin]

Free DTI

[keen loom]

For a marketing company they sure botched this yesterday. Let me save you some time Scopley - there is no acceptable answer at this point that isn’t free maxed DTI artifacts for everyone. This brings the balance you claimed to want, and will save a tiny bit of face with your player-base.

[tribal nacelle]

ROLL IT BACK... there are no other acceptable solutions.

[pine meteor]

Free DTI

[grave hawk]

#freeDTI. Now please.

[foggy elm]

This one came out pretty good...

[nova tulip]

Looks good

[carmine marten]

Independent of what’s going on with DTI…..

Thank you for bringing back choice tokens for a few days

[frozen tusk]

Just here to voice my support of #FreeDTI, I won't be spending on this game anymore if this is how Scopely decides to treat its players. Can't believe I actually had to make a Discord for a chance to have my voice heard on this 🤦‍♂️

[mossy acorn]

I myself would love to do the Ultimate Choice token. The Voyager refit looks great!

But if I bought it in the middle of this DTI mess, I'd always look at and grimace. Just the principle of it

If I miss it this week, I'll miss it

I can't on good conscience spend until STFC decides to #freeDTI

[nova tulip]

I'll wait for the Alliance Tournament to get that. Emerald Chain will unlock it sooner or later

[carmine marten]

I meant the choice tokens from battle pass 😅 For redeeming for rss. I’m not praising or thanking for new store options to spend money

[daring wasp]

That fact it’s been over 24 hours and scopely has not responded is all the more infuriating. They need to fix this mistake of theirs. How many whales can you afford to lose

[south depot]

level 29 emerald chain, for the astrometric sensor refit for Voyager

[mossy acorn]

I could. That's true.

But to have it and enjoy it this week, I'd have paid that $49.99. Gladly. Would've enjoyed that transaction.

After the DTI announcement yesterday, I can't

[pseudo coral]

There are only 5 levels? Does it depend on each player's Nx?

[whole jasper]

Petition to grant the rewards for every single time we have to click this to go away

[strange pulsar]

In case Scopley hasnt hear from the community about it yet, #FREEDTI

[gaunt horizon]

<@&509690795536941056> I just was able to repull krenim time weapon twice in DTI faction without a CD....can you confirm you've rolled it back?

[split harbor]

<@&509690795536941056> #FreeDTI

[lunar ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/rabble-randy-marsh-sheila-broflovski-gerald-broflovski-richard-tweak-gif-22002734 #FreeDTI

[tacit zenith]

yep, krenim & janeway pocket uncorked

[trail zenith]

Rollback the change.

#FreeDTI

[strong island]

Thank you very much Scopely! The choice reward redeem reappeared. Not sure if it was just based on feedback from players here, or tickets raised but I very much appreciate another opportunity to cash in those tokens 😍🍻 @tidal notch you get an extra quesadilla 😝

[vale kelp]

#FreeDTI

[unreal saddle]

Still have cooldown on them

[tacit zenith]

maybe reset game, just bought many of ea janewya & krenim

[fast tartan]

5 is max

#FreeDTI

[pseudo coral]

Thank you 🙏

[unreal saddle]

Will check when cooldown drops

[vale kelp]

Scopely’s, your obsession with daily clicks has become a problem. You’re clearly addicted to adding more and more daily clicks and it’s time for an intervention. #FreeDTI

[native vessel]

#freeDTI. One of the few things that helped players advance more quickly. Thats Scopelys goal isnt it? Players need to Ops up

[vast nest]

@tidal notch <@&509690795536941056>
Congrats on getting the artifacts back without a cooldown, but the officers need to be done as well. It's frustrating that Scopely only went half way on the walk back instead of admitting fault and reversing everything. Instead of being able to max these officers in a reasonable time frame it will now take at least a year if not longer to max the officers. It's just a slap in the face to the rest of us who didn't buy the ship to now have even more grind piled on. If Scopely can undo the cooldown on artifacts, they can admit the "game balance" reason was a complete lie and let us have the officers as well. A half measure to try to appease us is pathetic and insulting. All or none #FreeDTI

[quick coral]

After 2 full pulls of krenim weapon. Not sure to what extent, but.... no CD atm

[zinc terrace]

#freeDTI

[tidal notch]

Not quite accurate, but funny and adorable.

[remote flume]

#FreeDTI

[vivid nebula]

#freedti

[vast oyster]

Hey glad it catched your attention. As you are here now. When comes the rollback? #freeDTI

[elfin minnow]

Next Territory refresh they really need to refresh it to have 6 star mats. Then Territory might mean something again, for now its just status symbols.

[hollow ridge]

So if you don't have time weapon/pocketwatch, you should get it to T7 and not move past it

[unreal saddle]

Why not?

[carmine marten]

Officers stay on cooldown? Then my investment in the game will now stay on permanent cooldown. Good grief the decision makers are wildly out of touch. Do better, remove the officer cooldown. Or at least increase it to something like 25 shards a day to be possible

[latent timber]

Well they didnt fix the advantage whales had. Also screw the cooldowns on officers.... 1 per day takes forever

[nova sierra]

FreeDTI. No cooldowns AT ALL. Keep boycotting packs, etc until they cave.

[coarse sage]

Stop buying packs since money is all they understand.

[woven jay]

officer cooldown on DTI is unacceptable for those of us with a lot of currency saved with no chance to use it
this isn't a compromise and needs reverting

[rich furnace]

A midway point with the officers would be to increase amount of shards per pull, then you can keep the cooldown and it not take years to max

[crimson girder]

Nope this compromise still stinks. #FREEDTI

[jaunty fog]

Proving yet again it's just a money grab. #freedti

[final plinth]

Haha called it. It was because of the temporal stuff. Still a very sad and player unfriendly decision!

[solar relic]

The announcement is official, no officer rollback!

[keen trout]

Any room here for suggestions?

Day 3.

When is this going into NFT’s buy sell and trade.

***Also we need the events to be organized left to right beginning with the event ending first! ****

[grave quest]

#FreeDTI #CompleteRollBack #NotGoodEnough

[rotund shale]

So appreciate that Scopely responded to negative feedback, but are they really concerned with everyone having a T5 Leslie ruining balance. Not good enough unfortunately. #freeDTI

[nova sierra]

<@&509690795536941056> this new DTI "compromise" is completely unacceptable. Remove the cool downs completely, or I won't be giving you as much as a penny going forward until the changes have been utterly reversed. And you people wonder why so many people have left this game.

I do appreciate the response to the negative feedback, but it's not enough, and the player community will continue to pressure you to reverse the changes utterly .

I have banked and saved up tons of currency for this, and even these compromises don't help us to catch up to people that have already been using this feature for months. Reverse them now

Edit: you people Gross over $10 million a month from this game. Let us have this one thing.

[tribal nacelle]

This is a joke of a response... completely revert the DUMB and TERRIBLE decision.

[opaque steeple]

<@&509690795536941056> If i had left my pocketwatch at level 7 and simply kept purchasing the same issue is still there. The only difference is, people who already leveled their artifact are screwed and those who haven't still have unlimited conversions.

[kind vale]

#⭐-official-announcements message This shows that Scopely has no comprehension or care for player concerns. This completely ignores many of the issues raised by players. Hopefully players stand strong and speak with their wallets at Arc launch.

[jaunty fog]

@tidal notch no, you didn't listen to feedback, this is garbage and tone deaf.

[hollow blaze]

The only problem they can solve in an instant is when players can benefit from something.
Some examples:

• That treasury when key was only 10$
• Accidentally double refinery in Mirror refinery with prime
  Etc... These were fixed in an instant. But when there is a problem which bad only for the players it can wait months, years or forever. My list of unsolved problems are way longer.

[woven jay]

regarding DTI officer cooldowns
you all need to understand that many of us are sitting on currency that your TIME GATES made take weeks to accumulate that we now cannot spend down possibly ever

This raises a huge issue of trust. What gets a random cooldown added next? will it be temporal disruptor redemptions? ultra and faction decks? faction credit spends on ship blueprints?
if after four months of something being one way we cannot hold currency to spend it under that paradigm you may as well just tell us you are going to undermine any element of the game at any time so you can plan on NOTHING

a game with unpredictable changes to in game economics that are not announced in advance is unplayable

[gaunt horizon]

I appreciate you making a change but if you were really listening to our feedback, you would know that a halfhearted change that doesn't solve the issue of imbalance and fairness to all is not good enough. We were not requesting a partial rollback or minor change, we were requesting a full roll back to how you told us and explained it would work and how it did work since you debuted the DTI faction store months ago. Anything less than that is going to get the 👎 from the community.

[molten shell]

your #FreeDTI comprimise is not good enough. restore the original functionality.

[nova sierra]

It's also not like they need the money. They gross over $10 million a month (120+ million per year) from this game before expenses. They can let us have this one thing. There was an article 2 years ago stating how much they made per month off the apple & google stores, and this doesn't even count how much they make per month off of the packs they sell on their website outside of these stores.

Terrible decision making process, and trying to force players to spend, will only hurt their income further in the future

[fallow lake]

I'm satisfied with the DTI compromise. Thank you <@&509690795536941056> 🫂

[twilit prairie]

The announcement today is a joke! FreeDTI!!

[hollow blaze]

The sad thing in this whole situation that I can't say: "I'm not gonna buy anything." because I've already said it (and keep myself to it) at a way older fiasco.

So it's your time guys! No packs, no rss monthly thing, not even Elite pass!

[unreal saddle]

This announcement is a joke?
#freeDTI

[lunar ocean]

BS. #FreeDTI

[woeful nymph]

Not good enough. You were aware of the lack of cooldowns on day 1 and kicked the can down the road for months and only when people are about to unlock the Relativity free to play, do you add cooldowns. You don't allow something to exist for months then retcon it.

[ashen folio]

I'm gonna join you in not buying anything for the next couple of months at least.

[hollow blaze]

They mixed up 1st of May with 1st of April. Are you surprised? It's just Scopely. #FreeDTI

[umbral thistle]

The whole dti fiasco needs reverting fully. You created a problem and this half baked adjustment simply doesn't solve the issues caused

[candid turret]

This is the one and only reason they are doing this. Most ftp are around a week/2 weeks away from the ship (if they have been on top of redemptions)

[opal crane]

What a trash 'response'. Screw this, I'm not spending a dollar in this game until they fix this.
#FreeDTI

[woeful nymph]

They ignored the "feature" for months till they realized this player beneficial thing can impact their $, then they stealth patch it past the CC's and PAC hoping the player base won't realize how they all just got boned.

[tribal nacelle]

I said it earlier. Complete rollback is the only acceptable solution.

[ashen folio]

They're gonna have a very successful new arc launch after this DTI thing :))
The Wrath of Khan incoming :))

[candid turret]

A possible officer compromise (both that I would want this). If not unlocked officer then un limited pulls. Otherwise 22 hr cooldown <@&509690795536941056>

[fallow lake]

The issues they fixed are: chaos tech upgrades being too easy for current and future chaos tech and temporal artifacts upgrades being too easy for current and future temporal artifacts. They made a mistake. They fixed it before everyone could stockpile. If they hadn't, they would have just created a new currency to feed future chaos tech and temporal artifacts. This is better and now that we can unlock at full speed to max level, this compromise is good and logical.

[zinc terrace]

A tone deaf response to negative feedback. Why don’t we get an AMA together with the general manager again? I bet that won’t happen again. Too many hard hitting questions about giving players the shaft.

If you have any real reasons why this balance change was needed, please spell them out. The community has had a day to mull this over and I haven’t seen any good reason for this change except to teach players to buy early and often because you’ll take away things when you free to play grind instead of dropping multi hundreds of dollars per month.

#freeDTI

[opal crane]

Nah, we don't negotiate with terrorists (obviously this is an overexaggeration as this is a video game, but the phrase wouldn't make sense with any other term) lol. Don't give them an inch.

[unreal saddle]

There will be no future temporal artifacts!

[hollow blaze]

And what is your "logical" answer to cooldowns on officers after 4 months of not fixing it?

[nova tulip]

Honestly I'm okay with the change to those artefacts. It's a compromise, and not a bad one for either side.
Good work on that <@&509690795536941056> ❤️ 🫂

But why limit the officers? Why that cooldown? There is no good reason since if one wants getting transporter patterns is easy. It makes no sense and just keeps making us players mad.
If you have to have a cooldown there, change the number of shards you can pull each day.
#FreeDTI

[unborn swallow]

If you’re going to have a cooldown on the officers, increase the amount you can pull each time.

Otherwise we will be swimming in credits we cannot use which makes zero sense for new(ish) content.

[fallow lake]

We've gone from 10 shards per day to 5 shards per day. That's still better sourcing than most officers but more in line with appropriate progress.

[gilded escarp]

Everything goes back to their failed promise of quality over quantity. Scopley and the CMs harped on how that was the focus, and yet, it’s been quantity after quantity after quantity, removing any semblance of balance to those who don’t drop thousands a month. A few years ago crewing mattered, creating balance, but doesn’t now since new meta PvP crews come out multiple times a year now. There “balance” argument for cooldowns is terrible at best. It’s clear all you want to do is drive away the vast majority of players who aren’t willing to drop hundreds or thousands a month. They don’t want us to hoard materials but then timegate refineries, how does that make sense? You really need to work on the message you want players to see.

[vivid nebula]

Won’t be spending another penny I can tell you that

[hollow blaze]

Hey! That was the motto of last year! This year they started January with "Year of hell" motto. They keep their promise pretty well.

[unreal saddle]

Are u a victim of stockholm syndrome?

[zinc terrace]

#nospend
#nocooldown

[tribal nacelle]

Scopely plant to argue against what the actual player base wants

[crimson girder]

Valuable officers with nice sourcing gets shoved under a bus and laughed at yet again #FREEDTI

[agile slate]

Show us how little insight you have in designing your own game. Tell me how you didnt see this coming with no cooldown pulls for months on end and then change it when the masses are about to get the ship and access to the same mechanic? As if f2p doesnt have enough disadvantages, you cant even let us upgrade pve officers when we engage in your loop?

[wide cloak]

I appreciate some of the changes here and understand the thoughts behind them. However... the genie can't be put back in the bottle.

For 4 months players had access to pull those artifacts and eventually access a quick way to get at Temporal Disruptors that no other player will have. Those accounts now have a very unfair advantage over accounts that will not have that access. I understand the problem with being able to "buy" the disruptors, but the CD at Tier 8 keeps anyone else from being able to compete fairly. The problem is with the design of the Temporal Artifacts... so sunset them by not adding any more and create a new category of artifacts that don't use the Temporal Disruptors. Get rid of the cooldown and let everyone get at those Disruptors. That would be fair to all.

The officers... do not make sense. Again - people had unlimited access to those officers and while I haven't checked, I'm sure some of my 70 friends already have them maxed. If you pull them from the store when all shards have been given, you create a path where no one can game the officers with getting unlimited Transporter Patterns.

Ultimately, you can do better! Many in the community would be happy to help come up with reasonable solutions to problems... but you have to engage with us more!

[limber oriole]

I can understand this change if it was made a week after this loop launched, not months after the fact. Its because they saw it being abused to finish events they want you to spend $$ on is why they changed it.

I've decided full f2p from here on out. Scopley needs to work on communication with its players more openly. And frankly, game stability is driving me away. So tired of constantly rebooting, or being told I need to clear cashe to see events properly... and please get back to 1 daily/nightly reset.

[frozen tusk]

CMs and Scopely clearly don't take their player base seriously, the first change was a gut punch, and this is just peeing on us without the decency to call it rain.
#FreeDTI

[vast oyster]

<@&509690795536941056> Maybe a slightly switched perspective would help: NO ONE is playing this game for awesome grafics or good mechanic, most of us are playing it for the community in our alliances and servers. So driving the imbalance and disrupting these bonds that hold us in the game, just leads to an self accelerating exodus of players. Even the whales want full server and alliances. So this might just be a shot in your own foot as company.

So the solution must be something like: Remove the cooldown both for officers and artifacts, they are already double time locked at krenim directives and credit exchange.
New artifacts are only obtainable via an exchange like the krenim time weapon or event store.

Plan better and more transparent.

#freeDTI

[crimson girder]

I Have extra DTI credits daily that I want to spend on officers, but am now time gated yet again and thus officer sourcing is slowed to a crawl like everything else in this game. Heck buying DTI Factions with real $$$ (or what ever currency you use) means nothing now that we have to wait to spend them. they time gated themselves from getting paid! #FREEDTI

[unborn halo]

Alsoyeah, I don't care about the artifact and chaos tech. The officer pulls is what mattered to me...

[trail zenith]

You can't appreciate my understanding in the matter because I don't. This is a complete farse. The powers that be are terrible at their jobs and give zero about their player base. These things already had a limited amount per day with gated credits.

Complete rollback is the only acceptable answer. .

#Rollback #FreeDTI

[quick gale]

So basically sorry not sorry hey scopely?

[brave spire]

<@&509690795536941056>
Once again, players are not being listened to. 4 months the DTI had no cooldowns and nothing was done to change things, now the majority of players have the chance to use the DTI store the same way it gets changed. There are more than enough cooldowns in this store to slow the progression as it is. These changes ultimately harm scopley more than it does the players. People will leave the game because they cant catch up on things, people will stop spending because they never know when scopley might change something to make that spend pointless. Players have lost faith and trust in anything that has been said by anyone from the company.
This is in no way an attack on the CM's i know you are just the messengers, but it is time that scopley finally did something for the players who put there time and effort and cash into this game. This minor change is not enough.
#FreeDTI #NoCooldown #Rollback

[tidal notch]

Appreciate the well written and constructive feedback. I'm passing it on to the team.

[slim panther]

So to fix the fact that you time-pull locked the artefacts, you solve it by time locking them? Well that makes perfect sense. Still, those that managed to benefit from this mess up have still benefitted. Just the rest of us that haven’t. So still the lower players get the short end of the stick

[brittle reef]

In other words: "We saw you can easily do a task in tournaments and we decided you will need to pay real money for that now".

[hollow blaze]

Still no reason for officer cooldowns.

[old leaf]

thank you scopley for addressing the communities issues. this change is a good compromise.

[pure mesa]

Trying to open a ticket to address the COW event that I did NOT get my rewards for with no luck.

[molten jungle]

If you wanted some real compromise, you would have left the officers as unlimited until you maxed them all and then added the timer like you did with the artifacts. Change is still trash.

[grave quest]

honestly, at this point, there is no trust. not in scopely, and not even in the CMs here. oh, i know that none of this is your fault and i know that you take some things back to the overlords. But where is the apology for the wrapping the initial message in a lie about balancing to make it appear a positive change? Even this “compromise” feels planned. “hey, they will hate the change we want to do, so let’s make it even worse and then partially roll it back so they are happy about it because we can call it a compromise”. I could see this if it was a few weeks in, but at this point it is just a punch in the face. It’s not ok. A full rollback is needed, or everyone should get a full max of all those items and officers if you want it to be balanced and change the mechanic for future items. but changing it now and calling it a compromise is adding further insult to injury. #FreeDTI #FullRollBack #NoCompromise #EnoughIsEnough

[frozen tusk]

Scopely, honestly take the L and revert things, your delay in responding to this outrage and then the inadequate response afterwards is only going to further cement the lack of faith this original change created.

Why would we invest our time in a game where the developers are actively looking to disable anything of benefit, why would we look forward to any new arc when a few weeks/months later you can make the executive decision to Nerf it.
You had so much good will after running the first good end-of-arc store in years, and this is how you squander it? You were going to have so much good will for there finally being a Wrath of Khan arc and now we feel soured with the game.

@tidal notch I understand you are mostly just a mouth piece here to relay what the CorpoOverlords shovel down to you, but please, don't destroy the game and community that has been built over days/weeks/months/years by setting this new disgusting precedent, revert it, learn from it, do better next time.

[kind rampart]

An ok start but officer cooldown needs to be removed or shards increase to 20x pulls instead of 5x.

Until then #freeDTI

[austere reef]

Balance is keeping a mechanic as it was for the first four months. This allows people to have the same play experience that more advantaged players were able to enjoy for the last 4 months.

[runic whale]

No, time for compromise is in the past. We've put up with too much already as a community, way more than we should have, and that's why we're in this situation now. Full roll back is the only acceptable outcome. Until then #FreeDTI

[slim panther]

That is the biggest annoyance to me. To say they changed it to “balance” the game is the biggest load of rubbish I’ve heard in the last 100 days (intentional political reference). Sorry, but it’s almost as if the excuse came out of an “excuse of the day” rolodex. Please, be honest with your reasons for doing things. If you add something that you didn’t mean to, fix it immediately and put your hands up to your error. Don’t wait months and come up with a rubbish reason. This is not balanced still

[unkempt roost]

@tidal notch I want to make sure that you have noted in addition to the fact that the change does not in fact address any imbalance but creates one between not only early adopters and latecomers but also between people holding currency until they could tier an officer and people who bought them part way up as they went.

But most importantly, a huge element of this game is gathering resources and applying them to progress your game in strategic ways. By making an unannounced change to an in game exchange system that was stable for months, scopely is destroying our ability to play our game without the constant worry that you will up and change the rules of the game without notice.

I cannot stress how much damage this kind of arbitrary out of the blue change does to players feelings about the game.

If we cannot trust the systems that allow us to earn things to progress our games to be stable then we may as well pack it in. To put it crudely scopely is essentially cheating by changing the rules mid game.

that is the real danger here. You may need to make changes. You never ever need to make them on a non emergency basis without warning.

It would still leave the imbalances if you announced the change and gave people the chance to burn their currency so the change is bad regardless. Doing it with no warning is extremely damaging.

[slim shoal]

@tidal notch Just roll it back 100%. Four months of other players benefiting from this makes it way, way too late to rug pull it from everyone else. Learn from your mistake, be better next time, and move on. The 'compromise' to go to a halfway point between what has been the norm for FOUR MONTHS and what is garbage is still... garbage.

This isn't something that was asked for, that you then provide half of and we all agree is a decent middle ground. This was a punch to the back of the head nobody asked for and nobody saw coming. A 'partial' punch to the head is still going to be seen for exactly what it is.

You've got new content coming out we should be getting excited about. Roll this stupidity back 100% and lets all refocus on the fun stuff coming down the line.

[west sedge]

Urgent IA list - dvor, feesha, frankies, mantis, cerritos, titan, disco, defiant, meridian. Reduce the daily clicks, free up player time to engage in new content, everyone will love it

[eager tundra]

we will love it, they will hate it, if they did it, expect another dti dumpster fire

[ebon slate]

<@&509690795536941056> has a cooldown been added to the apex outlaw event card for the badges? I always used to get two lots, but this evening there appears to be an 11-12 hour cooldown and I'm not sure why. It just adds inconvenience. Haven't seen this extra cooldown mentioned anywhere so thought I'd check in case it was a mistake.

[keen loom]

Yesterday’s dumpster fire continues. Scopley just can’t seem to make a right decision.

[unreal saddle]

No way they did it…. Just check it, works good. 2 claims no cooldown

[hoary sierra]

I don’t think that’s new. I think it’s due to the two pulls having separate timers.

[woeful nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-obiwan-star-wars-serious-peace-gif-12342310

[opal crane]

Take to Social Media, folks. Hit every single ad that you see online spamming how anti-player Scopely has become. Make sure anybody that WOULD play this game knows how bad it's gotten and loses any desire to play.

Scopely has such a way of taking a medium to good idea, and implementing it in the ABSOLUTE worst possible way (Mirror Space, Solo Waves, Archives, GS31, etc). Making what COULD be awesome, an absolute nightmare. #JustScopelyThings

Re - PlatinumNightmare: The incredibly slow rollout for more ships, the bugs that people have reported and experienced is what I'm referring to.

[molten jungle]

Archives is fine. They're just horribly slow at adding a lot more obolete ships in there, but I agree, the rest of your list is trash.

[ebon slate]

OK, I'm very confused why it's appeared tonight. For months I've always been able to pull 2 chests in the same evening.

[opal crane]

And how insanely anti-F2P is Scopely 😄

Borg Cube: Can't touch players bigger than you, to the point of doing zero damage. That doesn't help ANYBODY but whales.

GS31? They didn't include any word about this in their documentation that I could find, but yeah, it ALSO has a damage reduction for punching above your level. against players AND hostiles.

Good concept.... The absolute WORST execution possible. I would tell you to do better, Scopely, but you'd find a way to do worse at doing better.

[split harbor]

As long as DTI store has cool downs, no money for scopely!

#FreeDTI

[oak hawk]

https://youtu.be/J1ZXU43RQQA?si=BbuEOS1c96O3MoCh

#FreeDTI

Really, you have designed practically everything to encourage hording .... And complained and begged for people to progress ... Then slam the door shut on progression just as F2P players progress to the point we can do more ....

[half roost]

This reminds me of the time angry birds transformers deleted half the loot I was hoarding for upgrades. Well, I deleted the game and never turned back. It's one thing to allow people to waste their money, but it's another to completely waste their time. DTI needs to be rolled back

[vivid nebula]

Scopely right now

[torpid cargo]

Wait the GS31 has a punch up tax as well??

[grave quest]

@weak marten could you please look into this?

[opal crane]

I had posted about it a bit ago on Rev's discord in the Venting channel.
#1211790995025297438 message

You'll note, this ALSO means that if you're Ops 60 and doing solo waves? Yep. All those hostiles over level 60... you're cutting into your damage.

[tough cypress]

Im not spending another dime. I bought the BP every month for 5 years. That ends this month. Ill slow my "progression" to a crawl in the name of "Game Balance".

[keen loom]

Scopley admits this was more economy driven - than a balance AND that was known yesterday when we were blatantly told this was for balance. Zero transparency, and not sure how to feel any other way than lied to.

The comp chest is a joke for such a blatant disinformation campaign. Keep it.

The correct answer is to award full DTI artifacts to every player AND learn your lesson going forward. QUALITY over QUANTITY, and transparency over disinformation.

<@&509690795536941056>

[grand bison]

The new update to the DTI Store means, that everybody who dindn't reach the lvls when the CDs kick in can just buy and buy and buy the shards until they maxed all ther temporal artifacts ? now you are effectivly punishing the spenders? REALLY?!

[opal crane]

The hostiles that the ship is BUILT for... gets reduced to half.

The Borg Cube and the GS-31 beams are BUILT to be ANTI-F2P and non-whales. There's absolutely zero reason for why it would be anything else. Because how big mad would a whale get if some peasant was able to make them bleed their own blood?

[tough cypress]

<@&509690795536941056> I have a serious question. When this DTI locking was first announced, why did Scopely lie to the players about the reasons for implementing this change?

[grave quest]

the emergency ration stuff is garbage now anyway. it was wonderful when it came out but they try to use it as a bandaid for everything without actually updating it. it would be an interesting video for <@&509691611903426561> to compare what it was like back then and how it is worthless today. unless we are getting almost a full hundred thousand rations, they might as well be sending over g2 ship parts.

[grave hawk]

I would be amazed if they gave you a substantive answer to your question.

[keen loom]

They won’t. They can’t even be honest out of the gate about changes.

Scopley needs to heed the outrage of the player base, significantly improve the fix, lick their wounds and move on.

[tough cypress]

I value honesty more than anything else when dealing with another business. If you can't be honest with me, I don't want your business, nor do I want to buy what you're selling.
I'm perfectly ok with a company saying--hey, we're raising prices/lowering services/not doing this for free because we can no longer afford to do it the old way.
That might be crappy, especially in a game setting, but at least it's respectful and honest.

[keen loom]

Really though it boils down to “We’re doing this out of pure greed. We don’t know how to maintain a healthy reasonable player base, so we’re going to milk every penny from those willing to pay, for as long as they are willing.” 💯 fail to realize how to actually balance player satisfaction and profit.

Scopley is an example of what not to do in those key areas.

Speaks volumes that yet again, anyone from Scopley who should be defending their company - is radar silent.

Silence is acceptance/admission in the digital world.

[tough cypress]

Scopely has this way of ignoring simple things that would make players extremely happy. Like, have a ship BP trade of 100-1 from each level, just to get something out of them and clear inventories. Simple, easy, pleasing. Nope. You're stuck with those 100k 2* ship BPs forever.

[wide solstice]

🤣🤣 I keep asking for cost reductions for forbidden tech and nothing comes of it

[torpid cargo]

<@&509690795536941056> My lord. Socpley I feel duped. Why was this not on the label when I bought it? This is not a good thing. Are you all really worried what the junker will do to a lvl 70. I feel the GS31's ability was mis represented at the time of sale and now I would like to formally request a refund. Borg cutting beam tax 2.0 but this time I didn't see it announced. The punch up tax is not needed and seems arbitrary at best and stupid at worst.

[nova sierra]

And they make $10 million a month gross off the Apple and Google stores which doesn't even count what they make off their website packs. Even after expenses, this company makes an absolute killing on STFC every month

[analog carbon]

how is not giving everyone in game the same opportunity that early adopters had to benifit from the temporal disruptor and chaos fragment generation, balance? You pull up a ladder when F2P players are close to sinking their teeth into the loop. Yeah, real balanced. #FreeDTI

[nova sierra]

Those of us who saved currency, or have returned to the game after being gone for a while, are completely screwed and can never catch up to people that had absolutely no cool downs. This is just a terrible decision they need to reverse… No compromises. Do not buy any packs until they reverse this decision completely.

Hurt them in their wallet until they cave

[unborn halo]

I get that you want to set limits to keep from abusing the store to do other things, but both the officers and the artifacts should not be limited at least until fully aquired.
Honestly there should be no limits, the currency already has a daily limit itself. the only way this makes sense is that people are using it to cheese the alliance tourney task. simplest solution, get rid of the task...

[keen loom]

The laughable compensation chest should help. Wait. Nevermind. My statement stands.

[half roost]

It's no more a cheese than using the nx refinery tokens

[trail zenith]

With all due respect, which isn't much at this point, full rollback of this mindless decision and your pitiful compensation and compromise is only more salt in the wounds. You are actively destroying your game.

[runic whale]

Planning and strategy with available resources shouldn't be labeled as abusing the store, what a silly thing to say.

[opal crane]

Scopely is all about penalizing players who do more with less. I would love to see a CM provide an evidence based counter argument.

[keen loom]

You’ve got a better chance of seeing these changes rolled back sir, or pigs flying, or winning the lottery.

[stiff perch]

#freedti

[buoyant veldt]

I want to thank the proverbial "middle-man" to start off. You're the communicators to everyone, and not the community punching bag. Some background on my gameplay: Ops 60 here, consider myself a fat dolphin. I've spent on packs, I still buy battle passes, and I would say my finances are stable.....not uncomfortable for day in and out, but I could never become whale status nor afford each specialty ship that comes out. I get the idea of closing an "exploit" that wasn't meant to be there. That should have been done a few days after, not 3+ months after the fact. If this is to get ahead of new content roll out, then that should be a (respectfully) you problem. While I personally did not realize how this portion of the DTI economy functioned because I was focusing on the favors, I would have changed my spending habits within the DTI store. In one lane, I can see "hey should have bought the ship before the economy changes". If anything, this abrupt change pushes me away from spending because you might just change the economy for whatever reason for whatever reason for weeks or months down the road. You've changed the economy before for the better (Archives, Freebooters). Is the Ferengi Whip's effectiveness rolling back? Hope not. Be transparent, be honest, make it right, and lets #FreeDTI.

[dusky zealot]

163 That's the server you destroyed. Thanks for a completely useless merge
(I am not allowed to insert the corresponding emoji here, but it is close to this one: 👆 )

[molten jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[unborn halo]

@half roost @runic whale i dont care if people do it, but there is a difference between nx01 and this, in nx01 they give you tokens, you get exborg. here they are giving you credits to get artifacts/officers. and its not being used to get those artifacts and officers its being used to get a third currency. which was probably not the intention of those items being in the store.
and i would rather them remove the task from tournaments than prevent new people from being able to get that extra currency

[buoyant veldt]

Remove it from the alliance tournaments 100%... the toothpaste is already out of the tube. let everyone else get to that point to do the same with artificats. Maybe this is why arena's is out of ballance

[opal crane]

Wrong answer.

[grave quest]

you’re forgetting that they could just remove it from the store once maxed like they do for literally everything else. it does not require a cool down.

[oak hawk]

https://youtu.be/sLT90wm7xRY?si=15U1wac4RRZ1iYsn

So ... you want to make it where people progress faster in the loops ... but not too fast or they will slam the door after the paid people get through it .... like that one ....

#FreeDTI

[buoyant veldt]

good video

[reef siren]

Liar liar pants on fire🔥
They want more players in top 20 ops (50+) so they launch more and more g4 content…?

[carmine yew]

Im still not happy with this "compromise" . just leave it the way it has been for the past 4 months.
Adding a cooldown or any type of limitations just before the F2P players finally unlock the ship and can start really focusing on the other stuff is not any sort of balancing at all

[buoyant veldt]

agreed @carmine yew

[stark lintel]

As another side of this to consider Hammy, Scopely has attempted to accelerate players through older generation (G3/G4/G5) through additional resources (Par/Trit/Dil & Gas/Cry/Ore) but there is no accelerated tiering of specialty ships or older officers available.
With DTI specifically, why not do the same with the officer shards? Up to tier 3, no cooldown, tier 4/5 has a cooldown but larger shard pulls? With these cooldowns, you’ve added 6 months to get enough shards to get from tier 4->5 of those officers. That’s not reasonable especially considering the credits are already time gated.

[keen loom]

But they did add months of opportunity for player frustration and subsequent spend. That is ALL that’s cared about.

[umbral thistle]

There is a line between frustration and there is no point even trying. This is the wrong side of the line even by their standards

[buoyant veldt]

@tidal notch my poo emoji is not towards you fyi

[unborn halo]

no, im not forgetting that, but removing it from the store once maxed would make it where some players were able to get the extra disruptors and use them to max other artifacts while people newer to finishing the loop would not be able to do that. lets face it, noone is buying disruptors other than for alliance tournaments, so that is what this change was meant to stop. people doing that task for free.

[crimson girder]

@tidal notch this Comp chest and compromise is not enough to earn any good will back after this DTI plunder. Ya'll missed your window 4 months ago to make such a drastic change to the DTI store. why to ruin such a good thing the DTI store was of QOL

[nova sierra]

10 officer shards and 4000 emergency rations for this debacle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 utter trash

[remote hazel]

Any new when this is going out
#⭐-official-announcements message

[fading bramble]

Scopely is wrong there is no unlimited chaos tech creations

[humble mango]

#⭐-official-announcements message <@&509690795536941056> Really think you should revert the change for a week. People have wasted their credits for conversions they can't use anymore. Some have large stockpiles that are getting wasted. Compensation isn't enough to cover the losses that the change caused for some people.

[jaunty fog]

<@&509690795536941056> @raw fiber @tidal notch that "comp chest" was a joke and still 100% tone deaf.

[trail zenith]

#FreeDTI and there needs to be accountability for those that made the terrible decision and left <@&509690795536941056> to deal with the firestorm of comments.

[fading bramble]

<@&509690795536941056> they could restrain the chaos tech and the temporal but not the officers, we saved to pay the officers and now we're stuck at 5/day.

[unkempt osprey]

just to add to the pile, return the DTI faction to what it was before. The changes are not welcome and your compromise is inadequate at best.

[opal crane]

Can I opt out of the comp chest? Scopely is going to need every penny after this past few days.

[keen loom]

Compensation rejected. In can sit unclaimed and rot.

I want Scopley to address the blatant disinformation campaign launched yesterday against the player base.

Address the discrepancy between the initial communication posted by <@&509690795536941056> and the second communication today.

Address how initially we were told this was to balance the game.

Address how today it’s admitted it’s for the Scopley economy.

Address how as a player base we ever are to take anything posted officially at face value going forward.

THIS is the result of your actions Scopley.

Don’t worry. Both have been screenshot for reference.

Explain it like we’re two year olds.

[clever whale]

<@&509690795536941056> I want to address the video that was released today - the Captain's log with Domen.

I appreciate a dev being at least verbally aware of the time bloat that has occurred within STFC and what is demanded from us. But - sometimes I feel like the proposed solution to this doesn't show how players actually interact with the content.

For example, starting off with the Franklin/A and D'vor/Feesha being added to the IA building - I don't think any of us will complain about these ships going away from things we have to do, but I honestly think these are the least of our worries as they take minimal time over the week...

The Franklin isn't really a time sink in terms of the daily time to complete the task - it just takes ages to tier up if you only do the daily tasks, but on a daily scale its a bit here and there, and with the ex-borg sweeps EASY. I forget its a daily.

The d'vor and feesha both have daylong events for them, but they are mostly set and forget and I can do other things. These events are also useful, as its one of the few consistently recurring G3 events that provides a consistent weekly supply of gas.

Now I understand these are the low hanging fruit, and I'm not complaining that these were chosen, but I don't think these are really time savers players need. Where do I see the biggest need? The Stella... Its a brutal ship with a research tree, and most of us either get two Stellas or never take one beyond where it needs only commons because its so expensive and time consuming to get the rare exchange credits. In addition, this is a day with multiple big events - Vindicator events, the Cube SLB. Plus this is a mostly self serving loop. The officers I use less than those I get from other loops, the research doesn't help that much in comparison to other options that are easier to get to.

Just please don't ignore the things that will actually improve our gameplay for the things that are easy to code. Thats all I ask! Cheers!

[nova sierra]

What a joke! That that's what the emergency field rations gives us.

We get 10 officers shards and about 22,500 syndicate faction in exchange for them totally destroying the DTI store 🤣🤣🤣
The other store options for these emergency rations is just as bad

<@&509690795536941056> this is an absolute insult and a slap in the face to players

[trail zenith]

#FreeDTI #DenyTheCompChest

Let it rot.

[carmine yew]

Im in a good position because I bought the ship but people are far behind my progress the did not buy the ship,
The good chests to get the credits to spend in the store are already on a 6 day cooldown
Where do you think people are going to harry potter the credits from to be able to max out the Officers and Artifacts from?

Just remove the cooldown and leave things as they are, let people still have the freedom they have had the past 4 months to do with the credits as they wish

liberty and justice for all

[tidal notch]

Well written feedback. Will pass on to D.

[opal crane]

Don't listen to his compliments! He's trying to butter us up to let his quesadillas be in peace. #NoSleepTillDTI

[dusky yew]

Im sorry <@&509690795536941056> ,I know yall get stuck with this mess but please let scoply know, this is not enough of a compromise.. as this whole faction was figured out days after launch and has been a established mechanic for months. This still a kick in the pants to many of the players who cant even take advantage of this till g6 and even still are limited by credits for officers. This addition of timers is bad for the game and fuels the flames of feelings of hate for common player base. Please free dti faction, this coming from a level 70 who hates seeing the unhappiness scoply can't help but to make constantly.

[crystal wyvern]

Appropriate compensation would be to nix the implemented DTI cooldowns and the compensation chest. Scopely messed up big time on this. #FreeDTI

[eager loom]

Wish list, can we get items to help us progress in the next event store? I'm looking for rare armada cores.

[opal crane]

It's not that it's "not enough of a compromise" it's that it's an insult in the face of the community. When your entire community stands up, including the whales, that you screwed up, the answer is not "here's an inch". Giving them any kudos on a job half done is just reinforcing bad behavior. If they want our money, they have to earn it. And they've done nothing but lie to us since this started.

It's absolutely not @tidal notch or Simpauly's fault that we're in this situation and absolutely zero insult should be slung at their persons. They're given a script to deliver from Scopely. But it'll be a cold day in heck when any of us should let our feet of the gas for some half baked "compromise" and an insult of a comp chest.

[acoustic geyser]

Honestly, I just want them to understand that we aren't two year olds and that we are pretty smart. We can see through the lies and misinformation and that's obvious. They need to see and understand that. I'd rather be treated as an adult and not be lied to.

[keen loom]

To be honest, they need to be held accountable for how the players are treated. Period.

[lunar ocean]

Save the rations to use for getting F2P AT tasks. That seems to be what Scopely hates more than anything.

Not that Scopely's strategy of forcing spending rather than incentivizing it ever made sense...

[hoary gate]

If Scopely had made a post that said, "Hey, we are a company run by a level of greed and short sightedness that would make a Ferengi blush." I honestly feel people would have received this "balance" better because at least Scopely would be honest. But no, Scopely and the game managers are just people who think they are smarter than STAR TREK FANS, who tend to be rather smart people since it is based on a show that needs brain cells to enjoy.

[tough cypress]

How kind of you!🤣

[subtle vine]

DTI is still free don’t lvl up the artifacts past 7 and you can still do turn ins without a CD. Just saying

Bank like 4k of each and then lvl them up. Then you can convert them to temporal disruptors. Boom you just circumvented the issue. If you are already G6 this isn’t a real issue for you as you likely already have most of these maxed from already doing this.

[olive summit]

I think its fair to say most upper g6 cud careless about the artifacts. It’s the officers, t5 isn’t easy with credit gate unless ofc you bought a bunch of credit packs.

[unborn halo]

Aye. Officers.

[cyan torrent]

We heard your feedback on the recent cooldown changes to DTI Faction Store and we have implemented an improved solution that strikes a better balance between progression and game economy
Since you're so concerned about the 'balance' of progression, explain to us - where's the progression on these artifacts? FreeDTI.

[warped willow]

#⭐-official-announcements message

This still doesn't address that players were able to exploit this for months, now players that have reached there will be directly disadvantaged by not having the same opportunities.

There's still no balance in this change.

The compensation is hilariously tone deaf.

#freeDTI

[normal ibex]

I am curious. Would anyone want to be able to scrap hijacked ships?

[ocean surge]

Amalgam A when? raiding takes so long these days you have to be a robot to do it

[normal ibex]

After all, many of us do get the blueprints for hijacked ships for free.

[warped willow]

#⭐-official-announcements message

<@&509690795536941056>s their compromise left out the most important part. The fact that everyone that had access already got to benefit from it. The rest of the players are still getting the short end of the stick.

#FreeDTI

Don't let them silence this without a real compromise. This is trash. Scopely is still trying to get away with pulling one over on the little guy.

Edit to say: WE STILL HAVE TIMERS. They haven't fixed this.

[twilit prairie]

Freedti, scoplay cars about its player’s so much. They think it’s ok to steel from them. Then slap in the face with an insulting comp chest

[frozen tusk]

Exactly, Scopely slow walked a response, and now they're hoping to wait till this blows over. Don't let it. This was an insult to those who play, from the smallest F2P to the largest whale, and their compromise is a joke. #FreeDTI #EndTheCooldowns

[warped willow]

The comp chest is incredibly laughable. 5 shards for officers that others had free reign on for months. Not even close to comparable.

[feral jewel]

#closeyourwalletswhales

[warped willow]

If they messed up by letting people have free reign, taking that away from everyone else is not BALANCE.

#FreeDTI

Also, <@&509690795536941056>s, we have not been compensated for the credit packs we've bought under the pretense of being able to spend them freely. This is a bare minimum requirement for that change. Otherwise I will be filing a complaint with Google for the bait and switch.

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<@&509690795536941056> when can we expect compensation for those packs, or a rollback of the DTI timers?

[pure plover]

Great "balancing" from scopely. Buy the ship and you can do whatever you want, don't buy the ship and you will get completely screwed over by the "balancing" that just happens to come out just before people are about to get the ship without buying it.

There is no such thing as balancing something after 4 months, you balance something like that straight away. There is no way that it only emerged recently about FT/CT, that would have been noticed straight away unless of course scopely are really bad at their job. That it is being done now says it's being done says to the players, we've let the people who buy the ship do whatever they want, gain a massive advantage, now people are about to get the ship without paying, change it to screw them over completely using the joke of "balancing"

The only way to "balance" this garbage scopely is to revert it back to how it orginally was, and had been for months since it was brought out.

#FreeDTI...

[stone pike]

I feel like I'm missing something. How do you all even get enough currency to spend in the DTI faction store? Timers would do nothing for my gameplay loop because it takes weeks of fighting the invader non-armadas for me to get any currency to use

[silk charm]

this is probably a better discussion for somewhere like #🤝-help-each-other (feedback channels like this one have a 5 minute slow mode enabled at pretty much all times), but if you hit the next level krenim up, or the same level with sufficient boosts, you can quad pull chests daily, which gives a big credit flow. it's apparently even more credits if you own the ship for its boost to the formation armada rewards

[pure plover]

That's easy, those who bought the ship can get a lot more credits a lot faster than anyone who didn't buy the ship, there is also packs with those credits, so anyone who bought them is laughing whilst scopely is screwing everyone else over using the "balancing" excuse which no one at all believes

[stone pike]

Ah realizing just now I posted this here. Apologies, and thank you.

[devout harbor]

thank you for making the changes to the DTI store to allow players to claim boxes without cooldown up to level 7 of the artifact, and for the compensation chest 🙏

[warped willow]

They didn't revert it. We still have timers.

They want you to think they did something, when in fact they are still going ahead with thier plans to limit the DTI.

To your edit, they are preventing people from having the same access that others did, this is not something to thank them for. They haven't chased off all of the free players with the massive gap between them and those who spend, so they decided to change the game code to be against them also.

They are taking from us a valuable source that many others have had for months and in exchange they say oh we will give you 5 of shards that the other players had UNLIMITED access to. It's shady.

[devout harbor]

do you mean there is still a cooldown on the boxes up to artifact level 7? 🤔

[warped willow]

You edited your message, my response was to what you initially wrote.

[pure plover]

It's not been reverted back to how it was for months when it was introduced. Those who bought the ship get an advantage which is fair enough, but to change the store as soon as people are about to get the ship without buying it is a joke, the idea it's to balance something they only recently noticed is an insult, or just incompetence from scopely at doing their jobs.

[devout harbor]

is there a way for me to give feedback to scopely for what i intended to give them feedback for, without being being told i'm not allowed to thank them for what i intended to thank them for?

[warped willow]

I didn't say you couldn't. I was informing you that you were thanking them for being shady.
And that's not what you wrote when you came here. So perhaps you shouldn't be surprised that someone responded to what you actually wrote.

#FreeDTI

[devout harbor]

i wrote to thank them for reverting their changes they made, which they did. then you complained that they didn't. so i edited my post to be more specific. and still you continue to harass. this is a channel to give feedback to scopely, not let you have free reign to harass players with your feedback of their feedback to scopely. go away <@&509691205798592532>

[errant brook]

They took our steaks and gave us carrots when we mocked up.

We still got robbed and I want my steak back. While you are happy getting ripped off....

[warped willow]

I'm not harassing anyone, if you didn't want a response, don't reply to me, you invited it. Stop with the gaslighting.

I said they didn't revert the changes because they did not. The timers they implemented are still there. That's a fact. Your original message did not address that until you edited it. Stop acting like I should know what's in your head.

Stop with the nonsense.

[devout harbor]

i didn't respond to you. you wrote me a whole message to harass me about them not making changes. they did make changes and then i edited my response. then i asked you if they didn't make the changes to the boxes. and you continue to harass. i didn't gaslight you, you are harassing because my feedback was not the feedback you would give. go away

[serene pine]

Noone is harassing anyone, but it's also not the place for this, take it to dm's guys

[nova sierra]

They didn't revert their changes – not at all. They only partially rolled them back – barely - and offered us a garbage compensation chest

It's great if you support what they did, but they absolutely did not roll their changes back. I would say they rolled back maybe 25%, and they still need to do 75% more to roll it all the way back.

[mental cloud]

So are the merged servers on bye week or not? Cause first we weren't due to merger, then were cause it was cancelled, then merger was on again with confirmation of no incursion, and now ingame says incursion is happening?

[silk charm]

The latest news I have is no incursion for merging servers:
#🌌-galaxy-chat message

but yeah that's a real bothersome mess of conflicting information you've been getting

[errant brook]

You can't trust Scopely.

• They make retroactive balancing changes, so you can never be sure that the game will behave the same way tomorrow as it did yesterday.
• You can no longer plan ahead and are "motivated" to buy solely on impulse.

I consider this morally questionable, to say the least, and I wonder if what Scopely is doing is even legal.

[toxic coyote]

#FreeDTI

[dusky zealot]

163 Hasperat

[frigid geode]

#⭐-official-announcements message
I'm not really satisfied and it's still a massive disadvantage for upcoming players compared to the last 4 (?) months.
I can understand that the artifacts are limited in this way - at least you can now level them faster again. OK.
But the officers are also not completely unimportant and here the sourcing is again restricted in a not entirely fair way.

[torn garden]

Sorry Scopely but I am NOT SPENDING another cent on your game until you revert DTI back to what its been for the past four months.

[carmine marten]

Current feedback: my capacity to care for this game or anything in it is diminishing by the hour, when instead I should be able to diminish my bank of DTI currency to spend on the things that had no cooldown for 4 months.

It's pretty pathetic for this to be the way to go out, but this continuing lack of care or regard for the player base by not fully reverting the changes, or at least attempting a true compromise that lets players better spend all their amassed currency, is making it abundantly clear where Scopely's priorities are at. While there's always been a share of a love-hate relationship with this game, this is a whole new level.

Community or no, I'm finding it harder and harder to justify giving anything, time or otherwise, to this game any longer. This is what you, Scopely-people-in-charge, have done.

[arctic pivot]

Hey Scopely, really nice to change a mechanic that has been around for months. Is it coincidental that you change this around the time f2p players get far enough to benefit from it?

#FreeDTI

[warped willow]

This right here. Scopelys attempt to brush this off with a small concession, but players are still no longer able to have the same advantage that everyone before them did. This hugely unbalances the game and for what? Thier bottom line? Nah. You ain't getting my money treating players like this.

#FreeDTI

Oh but don't worry, we got 5 shards of both of the officers that others had almost unlimited access to. That surely makes up for it right? 🤦 Tone deaf.

[slim panther]

Looking at what has happened over the last couple of days, it seems clear that Scopely have set their stall as to the future plans for the game. The timing of the change, just before the f2p player base gets to utilise the FEATURE (because that's what it was, nowhere was it said to be a bug or error) shows that they do not value the f2p players. And, OK, why should they - f2p is not going to make Scopely a vast amount of money, whereas encouraging people to spend will do. I've seem comments saying "So what, f2p doesn't pay their bills", but I doubt many people started this game with a view to spending RL cash. I started as it was advertised as "Free to Play (with in-game purchases), as everything else is. But if there is no f2p path to get, albeit eventually, the same benefits that those that pay do, then the f2p base will disappear. Again, cries of "So what?" - but that's just the definition of balancing - "To give several things equal amounts of importance, time, or money so that a situation is successful". As Scopely said this was "ongoing game balance improvements" - at no point was this giving several things (players) equal amounts of importance

[toxic coyote]

They did the same with the "loot goblins" in mirror loop as they have done with DTI, change to make features worse when f2p get to finally participate. Its bad design and planning on game designs part, and I'm happy to ignore DTI going forward as a result. Wonder how waves will be ruined in 3 months time

[fast anvil]

wandering warriors event is GREAT. great way to throw excess mats into the bin and get something useful out of it. I do hope scopely runs this at least once a month or once every 2 months because it's a really really good event to restock back up on latinum especially for f2ps.
just adding on but latinum is really needed when it comes to pushing for higher ops so if their goal is to push us up higher and higher then this event is a really good way to do so

[umbral thistle]

It was never only about levelling the artifacts with the cd not there people have been able to max all their other temporal artifacts under scopelys knowledge for 4 months. That has been pulled and people are rightly annoyed. They knew about this a few days in and left it until now to resolve and the half baked roll back doesn't solve the complaints

[strong island]

Been thinking about this since the announcement yesterday, and what concerns me about the compromise a bit is that it is likely the newbie g6 players that have reached gallery 60 and got the artifacts to level 8 that will suffer a slow down in progression the most

1. The biggest players in the game already had the option to max the artifacts and many likely have
2. newer players to the loop will be able to plough their DTI credits into the artifacts in an unlimited way until they have enough shards to max it as long as they keep them level 7 or below, at which point they start upgrading to level 8+ when they go g6. It’s now potentially open to abuse only at the lower end of the game instead of being eliminated
3. the rest of us at AG60 who already have level 8 artifacts will have a cooldown and slower progression. It’s probably a smaller group of players but I’m in that group

I’m feeling now that the newer ops 60s and low-mid g6 are being disproportionately affected. Unless having the required number of shards to get to level 8 is what triggers the cooldowns and not just whether you’ve chosen to promote it to level 8? <@&509690795536941056> are you able to clarify which of these options triggers it please?

[boreal ferry]

dti is not free, it’s just had cocktails and a photo op. this change is still terrible and won’t be buying anything next month/until they fix it. perfectly happy to go through g6 at snails pace f2p.

[fading bramble]

IF YOUR PROBLEM WAS THE UNLIMITED DISRUPTORS, ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS SET A TIMER ON THE 2 TIME ARTIFACTS ONCE THEY WERE LEVEL 8.

[warm field]

Very bad lag on 53 atm.

[errant brook]

#⭐-official-announcements message

Changing balance like this makes Scopely completely untrustworthfully
I hope the sales will fall to 0 for this.

[pearl monolith]

Sorry, had to steal that 😇🤣🤣🤣

[humble furnace]

👀 what’s with the scopely enforcer saying freeDTI 😂 the fernegi also has the scopely shield 😂 bad AI this

[boreal ferry]

no way would the ferengi be protesting to give us free anything 😆

[humble furnace]

That to 😂

[harsh thunder]

3 times in 15 minutes my game gets stuck on the black preparing screen.

[peak charm]

Scopely you need to lower your price point substantially in order for anyone to enjoy your game and also don’t make it so hard to unlock and tier up ships You don’t give enough parts to make them and we can’t even just do a quest or something to earn let’s say plutonium or the parts for the Franklin Just seems your company is money hungry

[paper flare]

Where can I find mission location in what systems. I’ve been looking for this one in systems around path to and around path to system.

[vale wasp]

In your research tree (ships), unlocking one of the voy nodes will give you that mission.

[unreal saddle]

When scopely will fix ships lost in warp?

[paper flare]

Thanks

[violet elm]

They could do something similar with the unused inventory items. Use the items to exchange them and finish an event and get something for it.

[split harbor]

#FreeDTI

[oak hawk]

I typed a lot this morning & my kids distracted me before I hit submit.

Scopley, it's your game to screw up however you wish.

If you are happy with the results you have been getting ... Keep going.

If you are unhappy with the results then change something.

#FreeDTI is not about DTI or this one change ... It's your mindset that making money is more important than making a great game.

It's picking a finite game instead of an infinite game.

I would have quit last summer, yet I knew I'd meet people like @tidal notch in Nashville. I did pull back and took a month or so off last fall. Unsure if I'll keep going yet I want to see what drops for the May Arc.

I get that no individual matters ... I also get your actions are more important than your words.

If you don't like the results you can change the game, but keep doing what you have been doing and you will keep getting what you have been getting.

Scopley, you changed the rules again ... Inconsistency is NOT the game the players want and the players have options.

[muted idol]

#FreeDTI this is about $$ not about player experience.

[oak hawk]

I think you mean "#FreeDTI is because Scopley was focused on $$$ not player experiance"

[fast anvil]

@raw fiber could you ask the team to do something like this? just some feedback thats all 🙂

[hollow blaze]

Enforcer swap side and help us. Also he helped Ferengi with a shield 😂

[keen loom]

So really. This is how Scopley is going to continue to treat us? <@&509690795536941056> implement a change that was advertised as game balance, switch messaging and admit this is pure game economy driven (greed), and slap us in the face a third time with the lame compensation?

Let me ask you this. If any other business in the world did this to you, would you remain a customer?

Utterly unacceptable. Reverse the changes to original state. Accept your lumps and think things through before rushing the next new content.

[hollow blaze]

That is why most of us (because addicted ones can't be stopped) should stop paying. No packs, no passes, nothing. Just play freely.

[hard dawn]

Wait, are we banning folks from the server who have differing opinions that aren't pleasant and can be critical of Scopely? Interesting move.

[toxic coyote]

I stole it too 😂

[trail zenith]

#FreeDTI #NoCompromise

[whole timber]

Changing a free feature , no issue. Changing a PAYED feature, never a good move.

[fast anvil]

yea i think people who typed "stop spending" or something similar got banned or timeout i think, or muted

[tawny walrus]

Can we please get the block on 61 systems removed from the spatial rift for Krenim Formadas? It's odd that ops 60 can travel there using standard ships but can't use a rift. For example, I opened a rift in Eryndor Veil and ops 60 can't use the rift. But if one of their ships is maxed, they can reach it through normal warp travel.

[kind rampart]

Remove the Cooldowns on officers in DTI. Or at least add a 20 chest option.

#freeDTI

[last sluice]

It really is BS. When some players have been benefiting from a mechanic that was entirely known about. For months. And then it’s pulled away just before ftp are getting to it.

If it was changed in hours days or even a week. But. After 4. Months. It’s a mechanic.

[jaunty fog]

#freedti. I have been spending a LOT less time in the game due to this, and know several others have been as well. Also know several whales that are going to really cut back on spending. People are growing tired of the BS.

[toxic anvil]

Well now that they noticed people doing easy 10k task, they don't like it 😅

[last sluice]

And. Worse of all.

TIGER. Said. It was intended. To be used as it was being used. As a mastery when this was being introduced. It was working. AS intended

Scopely bait at switch. Total nonsense.

And they can shove the “ compromise” where the sun don’t shine. Because that’s not what they said this mechanic was for.

[frozen tusk]

Exactly, total bait and switch, right as F2P is reaching this stage, just to really give them the shaft for not paying. Instead of restoring "balance" it's just given a major increase in the gap between the haves and have-nots. Wonder if this runs foul of any EU laws 🤔
#FreeDTI

[keen trout]

Morning all 🔥

[rose spear]

Morning!

[keen trout]

Good to have an on call doc ☎️

[rose spear]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-cheers-gif-5956451

[keen trout]

Haha day made

[opal crane]

Bait and switch is Scopely's whole game.

• Treasury payouts reduced with no warning
• GS31's beam damage tax never being communicated
• Pack's contents being reduced with no warning
• DTI store
• Forbidden Tech Terran pack

Scopely does this with intention and just hopes the community lays down and takes it.

#FreeDTI

A whole lot of folks have made it clear that they're done spending until absolutely right even one wrong. Call out the scabs. Don't buy into their trash. Eat the rich 👹

[keen trout]

Another reasonable comment. When the OGs and Whales are up in arms, this can stunt the project. We all have seen projects die. So again reasonableness is needed. Suggestions for the community.

Guiding principles:
🔥Sustainability of project
🔥Promises if made need to be kept
🔥Fair play for everyone (even a day 4 noob like me)

Am I missing anything?

[opal crane]

You left off " 🔥 Scopely, stop doing dumb stuff"

[keen trout]

How about this

Setting as we right the ship.

Boldly going where no entity has gone before ⚡️

[keen loom]

I cannot believe this is going unanswered. We as players should be ethically and morally outraged, and insist this is restored to original design.

[torpid cargo]

Ill add to that list with the Cheeto shield regen research still not working after 4 years and the fact that I can not max my FT's that I bought.

[grave quest]

we are!! But since the news of a forced false compromise has dropped, the overlords and the <@&509690795536941056> s have been silent and trying to let the storm settle. but this will not go away! we see, we remember. #FreeDTI #NoCompromise #WeWillNotBeSilent #NoMoreLies

[agile slate]

Roll back the dti changes completely! Not sure why anyone at this point would want to spend on anything if you can just change things whenever you feel like it. You released a product/loop that ppl invested in with either time or money.

[grave quest]

<@&509690795536941056> s : if scopely can change content like this that some of us even paid for, then there is no point in buying anything. trust is gone, you people lied to us about it being about balancing trying to put it into a nice positive wrapping paper, but we will not let this bait and switch slide! this is wrong on every single level! #NoCompromise #FreeDTI #WeWillNotBeSilent #HoldThemAccountable #WeAreNotStupid #NoMoreLies

at the request of @tidal notch i am making it clear that i am not “calling for a boycott” as that is against the rules, but am talking about myself.

[quartz ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lies-rage-furious-sassy-gif-8650455

[serene pine]

To be fair to both sides here (mainly the <@&509690795536941056>) we don't know what is happening behind the scenes and shouldn't assume silence = apathy and waiting it out. For all we know Hammy and Sim could be arguing with higher ups for us, meanwhile being blasted on here by the players.

[grave quest]

i am only calling the community managers out for lying to us about it being for “balancing”. I didn’t even mention the bullying they engaged in while they muted players while cand1e called us an organized mob.

no. i am also calling them out on their silence. you’re right. maybe they are trying and maybe they too were silenced. it doesn’t mean that brokely isn’t trying to “forget”.

[surreal condor]

Hey guys - I'm actually highly sympathetic on this one. I quit another game when the dev did something similar, so I understand the outrage and feeling like the rug was pulled out from underneath you.

Knowing what I do about what happens behind the curtain, I can tell you... The CMs (and mods and CCs) were being VERY vocal in our disagreement with this. I still have not been provided the logic for the changes...

But I am going to ask you to please keep it civil. You can be upset at Scopely all you want. We are too. You can be mad that the CMs don't have any details to give you -- they probably are too. But be nice to each other and us, all I ask.

[frozen tusk]

Nothing but love for you and the CMs, everyone is frustrated, just the first day of "damage control" only helped to further fan the flames and probably helped only escalate things.

We understand this server has rules, but when a large amount of muting/etc happens for a loose interpretation of a rule, it only expands who some feel deserve to be targeted for this shortsighted decision from $copely

[limber oriole]

<@&509690795536941056> after 4 years and 3 months of playing, if it weren't for the alliance and the people there I would be done with this game. As of this recent decision, I have now decided to go full f2p. Here are my reasons for my decision.

1. Bait and switch. You've done this several times in several manners.
   A. Released a vidar prime cargo that the community asked for then not 2 weeks later release the Talios
   B. Gorn Eviscerator: while it was eventually fixed, it wasn't as released as advertised in Beks video
   C. Recent DTI change
2. Stability. You keep promising fixes and none ever come, just a bandaid until your next "special event" starts then stability is horrendous again.
3. Deaf to community feedback. When you outrage a community, expect to hear about it. You go mute/ban crazy, without recognizing and addressing the outrage just further proves how deaf you our to the players.

Scopley will get less screen time and no money from me until DTI is rolled back to where it was and stabilty becomes a priority.

Thank you for your time

[sharp marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-jim-carrey-fun-funny-jim-carrey-mask-jim-carrey-cash-gif-23713303

[opal crane]

You're not my real mom. You can't tell me what to do.

[surreal condor]

Totally get it and I (and other mods) have provided that feedback QUITE loudly to the team (as did DJ and Rev... Nowon... Stewie and Lewb)... There have been a lot of recommendations to be more transparent and proactive in communications...

[surreal condor]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-sandal-smack-beat-that-ass-come-here-im-gonna-hit-you-gif-16419086

[grave quest]

i hope you don’t think i’m not being civil. The truth of the matter is that the initial communication was a lie. was this lie a script given to simpauly or one he wrote himself? i assume he was forced to post exactly that statement. it was still a blatant lie and it needs to be called out. I also feel that the mods (specifically one) added insult to injury with how (s)he handled the criticism. calling angry players sharing the same sentiment an “organized mob” was beyond distasteful and just wrong. Maybe the cms are fighting for us, maybe they are just being silenced. as the mouth pieces for brokely, they are still on the list of those to be called out. albeit civilly, without name calling and without being overly nasty. just angry. I hope they are fighting for us, but we are only aware of what they post and for now it is crickets.

[surreal condor]

If I didn't think you were being cool, you would have been warned. It's not targeted at you at all. Actually I appreciate that you've taken the time to explain your feelings in a polite way. I saw a lot of that over the past 2 days and it helped us to do a better job of advocating.

When people are raging or posting memes, sure, that tells us the sentiment... but when you're talking and giving logical feedback.... we can USE that.

Next time I'm setting up a channel for the memes though. I think those are hilarious. (Yes, I'm the one with the bad sense of humor who collects those.)

[opal crane]

Scopely should just focus on there not being a 'next' time. sips tea

[surreal condor]

They should. But it's been 7 years...

So I'm planning ahead.

[proven hound]

You are so right. I have been muted for 24 hours after I expressed my opinion several times for a meme reacting to another user’s post asking if he’s getting any of his investment back.

But hey, seems this is just the new American way of life and the freedom of speech version 2.0.

I can understand everyone speaking up and I hope it won’t stop as, as mentioned by so many people it’s the agenda behind the last action and shows simply the complete disrespect for their customers.

Let’s keep it up, perhaps they will start to realise how wrong they are and I hope that everyone reconsiders their spending.

Thank you <@&509690795536941056> and <@&509691205798592532> for your really open and supportive service it’s been a wonderful experience 🖖

LOL @surreal condor did you really read what I wrote? Thought my irony was clear enough… I haven’t seen anything that deserves being called service. That poor compromise is again a clear example for what the game stands for 💰💸💵💳💷🤑

[surreal condor]

I did and you're entitled to your opinion. If you got muted, it's because you posted them over and over OR posted ones about boycott. I have made a note that we need to clarify those rules openly if another riot starts.

[proven hound]

Thank you for sharing your point of view and declaring our protest as „riot“ 🖖

[surreal condor]

To me, riot is not an offensive term. If it is to you, then I apologize.

[proven hound]

„A riot is a violent public disturbance involving a group of people who act out in a disorderly and often destructive manner. Riots typically include behaviors such as vandalism, looting, arson, or clashes with authorities, and they usually arise from grievances related to political, social, economic, or cultural issues.“

Please help me, where was the violence?

There was a massive protest against this change of mechanics and the way it was communicated.

And personally if had been in charge I would have presented myself to the people.
I have done this already 2-3 times in my RL career and I know that there are nicer occasions but there is nothing more than F2F customer feedback and believe me, they can behave and still express their concerns

[surreal condor]

@grave quest I'm LOLing at what Automod caught. Sorry about that but it's the variation of s-word.

It won't allow those.

[surreal condor]

If that's your definition, then no, it wasn't one. I already apologized if you use the term differently than I do though.

to me, it's a tame version of -- rightful anger over bad decisions

But I'm not allowed to cuss here either so I can't give my actual definition for it LOL

[slender monolith]

Pretty sure its still American freedom of speech 1.0 because Scopely isn’t the US Government

[opal crane]

Is there a place we can find what terms we are not allowed to say? I don't want to talk about a boy in a cott if we're not allowed to.

[surreal condor]

It's a pretty extensive list. The history of that was when we obtained "official" discord status; at the time, Discord required we meet certain requirements to make the environment safe for children even if this game doesn't allow them. Later, they rolled out automod and it has some specific rules built in. Over time, those have expanded to capture words from various countries.

As for boycott, that is specified on #🌠-rules-and-roles12

[opal crane]

Thank you. So I should not encourage Males in Cotts. Got it.... The Cott. The Cott for Males... the Cotts that are chosen specifically for Males... Male's Cotts.... got it.

[steep orchid]

I was invited back to play the game in an email for a 14 day "Return to the Bridge" event on my account. It got me to turn the game on and, as long as I claimed the 22-hour chest, gave me pretty good resources in order to get my progression going.

Only, it lasted for like 3 days total. Despite the event itself still showing as available for it's 14 day intended run, the daily chest to claim disappeared after a few days.

Same with the store purchases that were made available to me as a returning player (Labeled Access level Alpha/Beta/Gamma/Ect). I did buy a few and there was a fourth that I was ready to buy as well the next day. That also vanished. It also had the same 14 day timer that was nowhere near to expiring.

So now there continues, for a few more days at least, to be a "Return to the game and get rewards!" event that I haven't been able to interact with for the grand majority of it's availability.

Contacting Scopely email support was an exercise in utter futility. Full information and screenshots were given. Their answers given were never accurate or helpful:

1. The chest claim was only for April (it disappeared well before April was over)
2. A new chest would appear when this month started (it didn't)
3. The purchase available is only for a specific progression that I hadn't reached (then why was it available to purchase the day before?)

No attempt at any resolution for the event in my game that continues to count down and can't be progressed in any manner. After asking why they couldn't at least provide the rewards for the event that they would intend returning players to earn, I got a solid "Sorry you feel that way; this is the intended design of the game" and then they closed the support ticket.

I guess if this is the attitude provided to get players to return to the game, I'm not sure why anyone would really bother.

[jolly yarrow]

Hod do you find missed missions?

[glacial spruce]

While the English language is fluid, as a mod you don't get to make up your own definition of words. Especially ones that have a specific meaning. Otherwise I can claim the f-word means "spaghetti dinner" to me.

If you want to use the term riot, then at least qualify it by calling it a "digital riot" or "virtual riot".

[surreal condor]

Fair enough.

[limber oriole]

People did have their torch and pitchforks. Amolt to Gaila levels. Only didn't reach those levels because the games overall player base has shrunk since that debacle.

[grave quest]

sorry, but this is the wrong hill to die on. she did not mean “riot” in any bad way. if anything, be upset about being called an “organized mob” or the core issue (being lied to about it being about ‘balancing’ and nerfing an established mechanic right when f2p would get access). The real word (that i learned in school by the way for this sort of mass negative feedback) is censored on this server

[surreal condor]

It's alright, folks. I'm not infallible and I can accept that my use of a word was incorrect. I'll adjust my nomenclature.

But no ill intent was meant - I just want that clear. I think players are rightfully upset.

Back to my workout. 🖖

[crimson lotus]

SCOPLEY:

Hey Commander,

As part of ongoing game balance improvements, we've added a cooldown to the following DTI chests:

All of them

HAHAHAHA

No this is not an April fools joke. We don't like you.

[grave quest]

yup 😂🤣 #FreeDTI #NoMoreLies #NoCompromise

[opal crane]

Slow your roll, homie.

One. The person you're seemingly directed at is just a moderator, that I assume is unpaid or at very least not rolling in the dough from Scopely.
Two. I like your spirit, just keep it focused on actual Scopely.
Three. I'm mostly defending because I love their name. Ya Hya Chouhada! I'd care less if it was at OH lol (sorry OH)

[random nymph]

Dude the yappers that work for the crooks are just as bad

[grave quest]

i’ll be the first to call them out when warranted. just got a warning about being disrespectful even. (i’m ignoring that one as it’s not true). But this is a case where i got to say you’re in the wrong here. Jess was being cool.

[opal crane]

Again.... I'd not have said anything if you directed this at OH or Simpauly... since they are the 'yappers' for Scopely. But the Moderators are quite literally just trying to keep the peace on the discord of heathens and degens. I don't think I've ever seen an 'unkind' word from Jess and in every sense she's made it clear she supports the community in this.

Also, i say much of this from previously BEING a Server Mod for my own server's discord. Kicking the mods is like beating up the unpaid interns because the CEO bought a boat instead of giving raises.

[random nymph]

All the same buddy don't know who you're talking about

[tidal notch]

But not like a lot less right? A little less?

[tidal notch]

Yappers?

[thick pilot]

I realy need that compensation chest sadly im ops 38 and cant get those 4K compensation tokens

[opal crane]

I'll pray about it. If you create an AI art of a hamster joining the protest against Scopely's anti-F2Pplayer tactics, I'll HoDownThrowDown for you though.
Ball is in your court. 👀

I was just using THEIR verbiage 😄 gd it. lol While we're talking, can you throw this in the trash?

[keen loom]

Holy cow. Empathy and acknowledgment. Jess for CM!

[thick pilot]

I need that badly

[tidal notch]

Im not quite sure how I feel abou this....

[opal crane]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-next-generation-first-contact-picard-rage-gif-927914652863628298

ALSO, If Scopely tries to capitalize on the meme generation about all of this.... I'll just let you know now.... that won't fly with the community. (looking at you, Treasury is full!)

[tidal notch]

She's got my vote!

[fierce flicker]

@tidal notch the incusion sms is a bit rough when the 46-50 bracket can't get points when a 60 with a rotarran or sanctus keeps killing everything. it would be good of it was "lose to" included the higher ships. so it's not just a waste of RSS and time and frustration at the game. for the "open system" where it's just sitting ducks.

[tidal notch]

Pinged you

[thin shard]

Any idea, why my fight was Partial, when I destroyed the opponent in 3rd round...

...and moment later, when I was just scratched by Borg Cube beem, it shows as defeat? 🤷‍♂️

[woeful nymph]

The "I (Scopely) will make them Pay" quote seems more approriate for this game. Although after this DTI thing, I doubt people will be spending much since it seems Scopely can change the value of a purchase months after the fact under the guise of "balancing"