💣-arena-feedback

[slate plinth]

Simply rotating the hours ever day/week/month would be fine . I changes shifts, and went from 10 hrs to 8 hrs btw

But they 100% know that some people will be pushed out forever, and they fine with it.

[slim magnet]

I know you moved it to Fridays for US servers as you have time limits , maybe think about EU ,Apac .. we play game as well , make it 24 hours or cancel it totally

[lucid sonnet]

suggestion:

FREE Mirror Uhuru ... remove rank gate.

see arena turn out increase as non pvp players come in to die for currency to unlock her.

or introduce other sourcing methods

[spice edge]

Ghost ships are back.

[humble iris]

No 71+ in arenas now? 🤣🤣

[ornate garnet]

really XD

[tame root]

Stop these 2x or even 3x same opponents in a row matches.
Very annoying & a waste of time.

<@&509690795536941056>

[safe frost]

cmon we won lol

[ornate garnet]

Haha ofc XD

[royal holly]

quick question, the level gap when forming a team is still +-4, right?

[ornate garnet]

right 🙂

[cursive bridge]

Bring it on! 😄

[rocky crypt]

The Game Client needs a serious overhaul.

[gusty ember]

ships getting stuck in battle and warp

and restart kills the ships....

[golden mortar]

Wow super fun....ships stuck in warp again. What a fun killer. Thanks Scopley for all your time and attention to this feature. great job

[rocky crypt]

Ship stuck in warp, Restart but ship bar gone, Restart again -> ships position not correct

[zealous tinsel]

what the hell caused 2 ships to be destroyed

[hazy basin]

stuck loading screens, stuck targeting screens. Is this a PH video? I won't say 'Help step-scopely, I'm stuck'

[rocky crypt]

Nice timing

To finish tonight's disaster:

[zealous tinsel]

@muted badger hey how about you pull the arena for today before it makes even more ppl dislike it enough to not participate in it. this is pretty bad

[dry meadow]

This STILL crashes when viewing whos in the squad and going back to the public list? had to reboot 20 times in the last hour. it's been like this for weeks now, why don't things ever get fixed???

[ocean pivot]

Please make arenas actually fair

[hazy basin]

ships don't show movment, people moving far faster than impulse cap

[hazy basin]

<@&509690795536941056> Once again, a plea to hide people who start rooms and don't hit ready after 2-3m. i've spent more time in dead rooms than in arenas.

[limber shard]

Not sure how that’s not fair. Those are fairly close ops. I’m ops 56 and have been in with ops 63 before.

[ocean pivot]

Even if I used I pvp crew it would have made no difference

And the kelvin is my strongest faction ship

[patent orbit]

holy he.....wow I haven't seen arenas that bad in a LONG time.
Issues tonight were:
Ships stuck in warp
Ships stuck in battle
Ships being sent back to base
Random game restarts
Not loading the arena system

Also had reports of alliance members not even being able to join arenas.

[ocean pivot]

That’s not a normal lvl 46

[shy linden]

something weird going on with arenas and missions. Several times I have had to redo all my active mission dialogues when returning from arenas, and often I see no active missions in my mission screen (even outside arena)

[ocean pivot]

I have only won maybe 1 or 2 arena matches ever and the opponents are always way stronger then you

[flat rain]

Some great visual lag tonight! I love that Im shown as being at the bottom and cant tell where I really am to avoid the enemy waaaaay on the right, so fun!

[limber shard]

That’s not necessarily true. I’ve killed ops 60 with a PvP crew before. I agree, hitting higher level ops can be painful but it can be done. Keep the faith.

[limber shard]

If the caller queues you, then cancels and requeues after 5-6 seconds until you match, you will get matched better. I’m ops 56 and I am at platinum 3 using that method.

[deft lantern]

Handicap in arena? The middle bottom didn't spawn until after a couple of minutes

[rose locust]

What about the ops 43 players with 246m ships? 🤣

[limber shard]

Yes, there will always be someone better than you. Do you think ship power should match evenly for every match?

[rose locust]

No. I do think it should be matched differently (although some of the issues are due to an inherent flaw in the way the game was set up). Basically, the matchmaking doesn't work. I have yet to have a somewhat equal match. The only outliers are when a player leaves/goes AFK. Even as far as rank, it's usually noticeably above, or noticeably below.

[spice fjord]

Man, Im on the big team and I'm still reporting a massive mismatch for our opponents. 59 leader vs 52 leader? Cmon

[worldly rapids]

Really, really difficult night

• Battling lag for hours

• Had one match where the other squad got 3 armadas off where my ships were right next to them, and with 10-20 sec to go I could target them, but spinny wheel spinny wheel wouldn't let me attack

• My last match we won. But my best ship was stuck in combat mode ("IN BATTLE") for the final 4 min of the match

• Caught a match with a guy who has at least 3 Rotarran's. I managed to beat one of them (E Riker + Lorca) with Sanctus. Was dodging the other one (IST). Then a third rolls in with Carol Freeman. 3x our squad got matched with that guy. 3x. Which leads to....

• No Arenas SMS event so I assume general participation was lower

• And discouraging because I assume G7 bugs / issues get priority over the rest of the month. So who knows when we get the SMS back : / or if the lag is here to stay this month with all the fixing / tinkering

[limber shard]

How should it be matched?

[rose locust]

I don't know, I would have to see exactly what it does now. I can only see the results people mention (which is not even all of them, I have no idea how many players in total are dissatisfied with it vs. how many participate). Also, I don't know a lot about ops levels higher than my own. It might even need to change as the game does, depending on how exactly it works. For all I know, that could already be happening.

[balmy jetty]

This bs needs to be cancelled permanently. It’s hard enough just to get into a match but the lag makes it literally impossible to play. Every match I tried I couldn’t even move a ship, it just lagged out every time. That’s not to mention how pathetically bad the matchmaking still is. Take away the negatives for losing against players 4 levels higher than your team maximum and maybe there’d be an incentive just to participate, but as it is this is a completely dead event not worth wasting time on.

[limber shard]

There are several other things that need to be prioritized over matchups. Fixing the lag, the freezing up, and several other things. The matchup can be a headache but it’s easy to get around it with a cheese crew.

[lost canyon]

The Arena is a solid idea, but the execution is lacking immensely. When the mode functions, it’s incredibly difficult to join a group as the “good ones” disappear quickly. The good ones being groups that are actually paying attention to start. The lobby becomes full of groups of people who aren’t paying attention or don’t have the intention of starting it. The player level and ship levels are incredibly imbalanced as well. I’ve only been in a handful of arenas that have a semi balanced power level.

When the arena doesn’t work, which seems to be most of the time, the lag starting up a match can force you to restart the client several times. Lag is just an all around issue for this event.

The Terran faction store has some great perks, but quite honestly the time you have to spend doing these arenas (and praying they work once a week) has turned off most. I know most people in our alliance and server just skip over this event because it’s so poorly executed. I would say this is by far the worst feature in the game. It makes grinding out silent hostiles appear fun.

[stuck edge]

I mean just a few why was arena soo laggy an 🚮tonight stuck in warp stuck in battle with no ship have to restart app then have to repair ships on a 2min cooldown i mean really ive never had a night like tonight Im a avid arena player an im livid

[stuck edge]

The last two pic I want you to count me and my teams ships vs how many are on the map...........

[rose locust]

Those need to be fixed as well. Fix those and then look at how the matches go, honestly outcomes might be entirely different. It certainly doesn't help when I have no idea where my ships (and the opponent's ships) actually are, for example.

I wasn't saying to ignore the bugs, errors, and lag, can't we have those fixed as well?

[keen sparrow]

I take it you don't like going up against the #3 ops 46?

[keen sparrow]

My Pilum's 232M in arena, and I'm lower on the leaderboard than SpaceXLeopard. Some people just ops up slower than others, and we get punished by Scopely for doing it.

[tawdry sun]

I was a defender of Arena for a very long time, but the move to Friday appears to have really killed it off.

At my ops (65) it’s almost impossible to get a squad in the first place, and when you do, the matchmaking is so one-sided due to the lower player count that I’m mostly wasting my time, and losing the rank that I had previously worked hard to gain, locking me out of certain items in the faction store.

So for me, in the current setup, Arena is a dead duck. We need something to happen to improve player engagement with it, and the switch from Monday to Friday appears to have achieved the opposite.

[turbid osprey]

SpaceX has done his research, maxed ships. Has either camped and hoarded or spent or combination of those. Your overall power is on the low side for your ops. Focus on that research, artifacts as well as FT/CTs.

[barren cairn]

Something tells me you haven’t done your research lol

[ocean pivot]

I’ve done quite a bit of research actually

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[whole birch]

Yeah they are a bit beefy 46, but you are a ridiculously underpowered 47 who might as well have been a 42. I'm not saying Arena matches are fair, but that matchup makes complete sense if you weren't levelling too fast

[spice edge]

Looks like a relatively normal Plat 1 46, though with a 34M Kelvin as best faction ship it doesn't really matter, that would be a losing ship in with just 42s as enemies.

[keen sparrow]

Are you ops locked on all your combat & pvp research that doesn't come in a trickle?

[keen sparrow]

and the opponent ops 42 was bigger.

[worldly hinge]

🤣

[cyan void]

who broke matchmaking, been matching for the past 5 minutes 😂

[fickle niche]

stuck in prep phase

[fickle niche]

@gritty cobalt <@&1245726040848994314> arena's are so bad, please send bot accounts so we can at least play. been stuck on matching queue endlessly. more time staring the queue than actual match

[gritty cobalt]

@cyan void why you not on matchmaking

[wise hearth]

EVERY single Player is stronger

[wise hearth]

okay this is way worse ...
my bad ... actually NO
SCAMLEY fix it arghhhhhhh

[fickle niche]

it seems he isnt fluffing today 😛 🤣

[cyan void]

cuz I went against a 70 5 times in a row despite not having a 70 in my team😂

[cyan void]

I got fluffed is what happened 🤣

[fickle niche]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

[cyan void]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-whoa-mikey-day-kyle-mooney-saturday-night-live-wow-gif-18836790

[fickle niche]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-10455738442136230044

Pauly is like, you want matches? hold my beer 😂

[cyan void]

that literally happened to me😂

kept pmo

[winged sand]

whats with the crappy matchmaking today

also lag, crashing and account being corrupted errors

[strong mortar]

great job...

[winged sand]

<@&509690795536941056> what have scopley done to match making? its a mess

[strong mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-emoji-what-say-what-wait-what-gif-4624697785713851431

[olive harness]

seems like a fair matchup

[cursive bridge]

Anyone else's game keeps randomly reloading since arenas started?

It seems like the game has some serious performance issues today.

[distant crane]

Fix Matchmaking, Fix Visuell Bugs with 0 Counter not going away until you reload system, make Arena somehow fun. Im close to quit this whole Game just because of Arena. Its feeding the rage and not the fun.

[ornate garnet]

It would be super useful if the Join button was on the squad room.

[glossy cobalt]

Top right, is that a new feature added?

[harsh grove]

laggg

lagggg

[winged sand]

Error_0 (no warp into arena)

Graphics zoomed in 👍

[winged sand]

these matchs.. i was getting some nasty high level agsinst us now we are the nasty high levels

[gusty ember]

is this channel even useful lol, not been any good changes to arena's

[winged sand]

Just got robbed in arena cos at 20 seconds remaining on the certer armada. it refused to let my ship join even though it was inside the area

[frosty cedar]

getting a weird second loading screen after exiting arena. like I get back to my home server for about 10 secs, and then another screen

[hasty arrow]

it feels like there is next to one playing arena this week when it's usually alot of mid g6 teams in the queue at this time. This is what happens when they don't run SMS's for arena multiple weeks in a row.

I faced the same team 3 matches in a row. I have never had that happen in the past 9 months of doing arena. I've seen one team back to back but never 3 or more matches in a row. Also the warp bug is awful tonight. I've had to restart my game 4 times during the first match.

[thorn thicket]

Event needs to be 24hrs

[rose locust]

The gold box is annoying, but again, that is not the primary issue. Fix some of the operational bugs first.

[rose locust]

Also there seems to be some issue where some players ships are slowed to a crawl and others are not (it's not visual, it's reflected in the timing and activity as well). I don't know if that's lag, misapplied speed limitations, or something else, but it is a problem.

[tawny crag]

guys, gotta fix the matchup situation

[spice edge]

That's not an arena issue, that starts happening sometimes if you have the client open long enough wherever you are, like some of the other weird fun graphical glitches.

[small dragon]

Todays arena has been the worst for bugs, I have ever seen.

[spice fjord]

This stupid discord and your stupid filters. Like your dumb game choices aren't bad enough, you could at least LET me vent. You're not gonna pay attention anyway.

Give us a dang quit button for arena already. This is garbage stacked on top of garbage.

[spice fjord]

Yeah this is great stuff you guys. Quit. Button. Cmon already!

[sharp lichen]

Balanced.... el oh el

[vapid brook]

No better for me, my squad just got put up against a squad with an order of magnitude stronger ships than any of ours.

The devs are aware this is demoralizing enough to kill any motivation to participate in this, right?

[spice fjord]

Quuuuiiiittttt. Buutttttoooonnn. Stop forcing me to waste my time once I verify there's a whale that can't be beat.

I won't even get into the fact that said whale blew up my ship in the circle with 7 seconds left on the timer

[wise forge]

Laggy and unplayable tonight.

I beat a ship to a kill while being chased. Battle didn’t start. Chaser got me. Was prob 1.5-2s gap.

[spice fjord]

Hahahahaha

Nope

[spare heath]

how did the arenas perform this week (aside from the matching. lol)? with the lag of death going on all week, I opted to sit this one out

[zealous tinsel]

can we not go one freakin update w/o totally screwing things?

also.... and once again unless rank bestows some insanely good buffs to our ships that evens that match out that's pretty messed up... as were the other 2 similar to it 🙂

[thorny estuary]

If no ships from the other squad are in the arena for 2 mins, they clearly gave up. The match should automatically be forfeit.

Too many people create a public squad and then stop playing, without leaving/deleting the squad. This wastes people’s time joining squads that will never enter a match. There should be some sort of timeout feature for public squads. Like if a 3rd person joins the squad, the creator has 1min to either mark themselves as ready or to kick one of the players out. Or every public squads gets deleted after 15mins - the creator can always create another if they’re still active.

When entering and exiting the arena, notifications in the normal UI should not all pop back up. Whenever a match ends, all of my missions (including archived ones) get marked as new and I have to click every single one of them to make the notification disappear. Same with the refinery, faction, officer tab, etc. It is SO annoying.

[thorny estuary]

So many people have a frustrating experience with the arena and vow never to play it again. I’m guessing matchups are so bad because not enough people are playing at any given time. There simply aren’t opponents online with exactly the same ops. That means you need to motivate more people to use the arena. First, arena days need to be more visible as an event, not something hidden in the Alliance screen. Second, fix the lag, long wait times between screens, extra slow impulse speed, and other infuriating bugs so players don’t rage-quit the arena after one match.

[flat basalt]

We are free now

[golden mortar]

Areans was bad again last night. At least this week I didn’t get a ship stuck in warp. Yesterdays arena bug feature of the day for me was my ships not attacking or joining armadas in the first click. For an attack my ship would move and park next to the enemy and then just sit there. Has to hit attack a few times for it to actually attack. Same thing with joining an armada. Frustrating.

[thorn thicket]

This I had this. And ship targeting lag

[spare heath]

sounds like skipping it this week saved a lot of headaches

[gray agate]

The Arena Needs To last 24 hours Not 6 Hours

[turbid wadi]

scopley has had many good suggestions on things that could improve the arena experience and they've done none over the past almost year. consider arena's d.o.a. and it won't change get what you can or leave it as I'm sure you all realize slower than some of the community it ain't worth the time or effort

[wise jacinth]

10k tasks disappeared. Tried clearing locals. Tried restarting. Tried checking updates. Waited for 10-20 mins. Nothing. Every single time something breaks. Wtf is going on with this game

[ionic dawn]

Genuinely happy to not have any bugs on arenas! Cheers 🥂
Lag still makes me an unhappy little Vegemite but I’ll take zero bugs all day any day

[crude wagon]

Bull mist always against 70er or 71er ships so 0-20 nice scoply

[craggy heron]

so, tried arena after a couple of weeks again, balance is awful as always, so see you next time in a couple of weeks

[ruby axle]

Why do European servers have US arena start times this week? Starting 6 hours from now will be midnight for the central European time zone.

[candid fiber]

so much lag in arenas. targeting is terrible, just a pain

Im EU153 and we are live with arenas now

[ruby axle]

Ah, just the classic need to restart for arenas to begin bug. 🙃

[safe frost]

8 matches, 2 different enemy teams. Peak matchmaking

[torn salmon]

huh? OPS gap is a bit bigger than I expected

yeah against people with 40mill ships????? seems right i guess

[dim lantern]

is mirror research the main type of research for pvp?

[golden mortar]

Before I even bother recalling my ships and crewing them up........Hows areans running? Are ships stuck in Warp? Can ships attack other ships, is everyone rubber banding around? Can anyone say at all if its even %.000025 more stable and playable then last week?

[buoyant scroll]

Won't match

[narrow obsidian]

How did a level 46 end up in an arena meant for ops 40-45?

[pearl night]

Still no MMR for Arenas, hmm?

I guess that's how F2P get matched up with the #10 player in the world lol

[still flicker]

Matchmaking still needs work pls

[craggy rover]

this is by far the most BS matchup today

[spice edge]

Oof, I always apologise if I get the same lot three times in a row.

[spice edge]

Your starter is 43, that's perfectly normal for matchmaker. Ops level isn't the problem there, that 46 is weak and could easily be trounced by a strong 42. Not saying the matchmaker is good or anything, but that is way way below the threshold of ridiculous matchups it will come up with.

[narrow obsidian]

The ops 41 player on the opposite side is in my alliance and had shared the arena team to the alliance chat when they were trying to find a third. It said that the team was open to only ops 40-45

[vague gale]

highest level on my team, 66, other team, level 70, your arena is pathetic, the lag is out of this world as well, and it has locked up on me twice in last 30 minutes, scope, your game is a sad pathetic piece of cheap junk

[wanton rune]

Once again, matchmaking is 💩. I'm the biggest and highest ranked player in my group at ops 63. You've put me in a match with an ops 66 with two 18 bil cubes. Trash. Trash trash trash.

[spice edge]

Your member is open to that, but the matchmaking is way more annoying than that. I'm not entirely sure how it works but it can definitely give way worse setups than that. Their leader is only one ops off your leader, but they could have had 48s in there. It's messy. You can have a 41 and a 49 on the same team if you have a 45 start it.

Personally I would suggest never joining a higher Ops person's group, unless you know they're Plat 1, 100% know what they're doing and you trust that they can deal with 99% of the stuff that being in their group can bring.

[shy linden]

this screen needs fixed yesterday, only shows up during arenas for me

[chilly trout]

Matchmaking has been hot boiled 💩 all night. I get everyone hates these, but maybe you need to introduce bots since CLEARLY you dont have enough players for balanced matches

[spare heath]

matching at it's finest 🤣 at least the other guys put and end to it quickly 🫡

[chilly trout]

To be fair only like 16 people play this mode anymore

[spice fjord]

Still needs a quit button. I don't have time to waste waiting 8 minutes for a player I can't fight to win this thing.

[dense olive]

Scopely if this is the best matchup you can do just punt and say “ WE couldn’t find a good matchup, please try again.” Being thrown into a match you have NO CHANCE of winning is. Not. Fun.

[spice fjord]

Hey thanks guys for the same but worse, including a rule breaking match. Quit button!!!

[shy linden]

as much as I hate the matchmaking, and I hate it quite a bit, there is no rule about the other team being within 4 of your team's leader

[night stone]

Area are absolute garbage. The matching making is a joke. 99.99% of them one side is so over powered the other side gets curb stooped. I hate arenas. I mean I hate them.

[spice fjord]

Unless they revoked it, leaders are supposed to fall within the +4/-4

[spare heath]

if they just made it where the squad leaders had to be the same ops to match, it would be a dang sight better than it is right now

[quick marsh]

That's not a bad idea. Lol. If there was a lot less lag we could win more

[coral spoke]

broken broken broken

[vague gale]

game crash after arena, can't log back in, great game, made in India?

[night stone]

No it would have better code.

[shy linden]

your own team has to be within 4 of the leader, but that's never been a restriction on who you match against

[spice fjord]

Could have sworn it was. Must have just been all the people assuming that was the case then.

[shy linden]

it probably should be a rule, or an even tighter range as going against a higher tier of shipyard is often an exercise in futility, but that would also require more participation to not kill all matches

[safe frost]

At least it was a fair matchup, I was out of mantis juice by the third match

[raven dove]

Arena matches need to be fair and there should be an honest opportunity for both teams to win. On many occasions we were matched against ops 50 and 53 players whereas we were under ops 49. This is a straight loss as we cannot compete against g4 epic and g5 ships. Their ships were parked as we entered so we just sat there for them to win. Please match them so that if one team has under 49s then the opposite team should be the same.

[tribal hornet]

Not saying the matching isn't an issue but you have to watch your level going into arenas.

Ops 43 is a relatively good camping spot if you want to be competitive in arena. Camp here. Know that at ops 46 your going to face ops 50 players with g4 epics and your chances of winning aren't that good.

Ops 50-53 is a good camping spot for same reasons. Ops 56 players are in the realm of ops 60 players. Unless your a very strong 56 with a maxed scantus vs the typical over opsed 60 player your going to loose.

Ops 60-63 same as above. Good camping spot. Go to ops 66-69 and your going to get smoked by an ops 70 player with a decent g6 epic.

The way this works is the way the whole game works not just arenas. When your in the ops range near an epic ship but you don't have the epic ship your at a disadvantage. In your server, in arenas, during incursions its just the way the game is. There is no amount of "fixing the matching" scoply can do to overcome the way the game was designed.

Our server was locked at 60 long enough for me to get to be the strongest player on all servers. I would regularly beat ops 61-66 players. Not all but most. If you didn't have a 20b plus velox chances were my almost 5b (in arena) rottaran was going to smoke you. There were some 60 plus players that were tough but most players are over opsed. You may be a strong player on your server but that doesn't mean anything in arena when your up against other servers. Check your power ranking on stfc power website not by your servers power ranking.

If your over opsed there's hope. Go to the nearest camping spot i mentioned above and STAY THERE! Stay there until you are ops locked on all your buildings, all your research, all your artifacts. Stay there until you have maxed your epic ships. Work on your q trials assessment rank and building so you can level up your forbidden tech more economically. It used to be that you needed tier 18 fc janeway at ops60 with most of the q trials skills maxed but with the new buildings and research janeway doesn't have to be tier 18. They can be beaten by a maxed g5 epic.

Camp at the spots you shouldn't encounter the epic ships and build a strong account and know that when you do finally ops up there is a range that your going to be at a disadvantage at and push through it or dont play arena unless you have someone higher ops to carry you.

[golden mortar]

Wait a minute....your method of camping would not allow you to progress super-fast into G7 and get to enjoy the new Viel feature and all the fun they are having up there. Plus, the sooner you skip the camp and packet rocket straight to G7, the sooner you can progress at the blazing speed of how fast you can transact your credit cards.

[odd citrus]

lol u were saying about an ops 62.. any higher and matched with 70+

57 / 58 / 62 vs 69 / 71 / 72

[worldly hinge]

lol we got u guys

apac arenas is dead on fridays only a few teams are playing

need to find better time on weekend

[odd citrus]

which day do u recommend? Not unless they consider changing this...?

[worldly hinge]

weekends like i said ^

more people active during that time even the previous date was better

[odd citrus]

yeh Monday's were better... weekend even better

[modest estuary]

Participation will not increase dramatically with a different day. Most players quit doing arenas for the mismatches, demotion if you lose too often, and for all the bugs. It‘s just not fun anymore (even if I win most of them myself, but after pulling the premium dust rewards and the artifact, I‘m done with them)

[strange mirage]

Has anyone else had worse lag today? I don't mean the usual odd few seconds it takes for an attack to go through etc. No, I'm talking 10 second delayed attacks, yellow and red signal warnings galore, ships getting stuck in the 00s attacking battle state, ships disappearing altogether from the screen etc.
It's not just me is it? My Internet connection is perfectly fine for everything else right now

Edit: that 00s state was even better because my other ship was in an armada. I restarted the game, had the "armada cancelled" bar pop up because my ship got blown up, yet there was no battle log for that hit and my frozen ship returned magically back to my base 🤦
Scopely, please, whatever you guys are doing in the background today, give it a rest. This isn't a good look and stuff like this drives people away from arenas which in turn makes the matchmaking even worse because of the lower player pool.
<@&509690795536941056> if you could pass this on?

[ashen saffron]

What can lvl 61 against lvl 65. I don't really understand the logic behind arena. Its very frustrating.

[sterile crystal]

In avarage: OPS 69 vs. 61.. seems legit.

[ashen saffron]

Wow😳

Not really fair!

[rocky crypt]

3 times in a row. This is stupid.

[hidden badger]

Max ops should be 49 so no comment

[hazy basin]

4-5m matching.. splended

[worldly rapids]

Please bring back the Arenas SMS next month

Pretty please. Even if it's not 100%

It helps matching so much more when there's more players engaged

[green forum]

Fix the lag in the game. This was after a restart and can’t even see my ships in arena.

[sullen crane]

The first two were from the same arena. I got in with just a few minutes to spare, and then I had several where it never unlocked, so I had to restart. Then, there was lag and still lopsided matching. This was my first time doing arenas in months. It's times like this that remind me why I don't bother. You still haven't fixed them. Why run them at all with such 💩 issues? It's ridiculous.

[tribal hornet]

I said "Not saying the matching isn't an issue" lol.

And this isn't the majority of matches. I play arenas every arena day, most of the 8hrs there active. I've been with two other 70's and got matched once with three 60's. So ive seen it.

I also have a 60 account and tonight the leader was a 56 and the third was a 53. We got matched with a 65 and two 63's and we won because my 60 account is in the top ten in all servers for 60 at 750ish million power, and my squad works well together. Also the other squad was over opsed.

There are issues with matchmaking and multiple matches with the same squad but a lot of the complaints I see here are by over opsed players. Or players near the level where they encounter the next level of epic ships. Like one of the screenshots above. A lvl48 in a squad will get you matched with a lvl51 with a g4 epic and you will most likely loose. And they did loose. Keep the spread of ops lvls to 42 43 44 and you most likely won't get matched with a 50 unless there is no other competitor in the que. As soon as you have one 48 your going to get matched with 50s. So you need a 46 to start a 43 and a 50. And that 50 can't be over opsed. The 50 needs to be strong enough to handle 53's.

I don't mind getting beat by another player the thing that really frustrates me is when im getting beat by scopley. Lag, ships not targeting the ship after I hit attack, ships stuck in battle forcing a restart in the match, ships stuck warping into the system forcing a restart in match, not being able to select the arena system forcing a restart mid match, armadas not respawing, ships not responding and seeing the message subspace interference lol, etc, etc, etc, etc...

[short pecan]

my thing is that when you selet weather to do allince or public I go public then the waiting must people don't know that when you enter you are suppose to hit ready so the others know what 's going on and I think there will be less waiting

[strange mirage]

@alpine cove does this count as white knighting? 🤔

[ruby axle]

Will arena remove our ships from outposts?

[inland cloud]

Will be tested in production the first time it happens. Expect Fireworks while your synapses implode. Expect Scopely Not to have thought about anything - they cannot even describe officers

[scenic lynx]

It would have to.

[slate plinth]

They are freaking out now that you poked holes in there full proof idea

[ruby axle]

Crashing the game feels like a totally plausible alternative, 🙃

[gloomy rover]

Well considering you might only get 1-2 starts a week, and arena is only 8 hours on 1 day a week. You would never see conflict. Just don’t run them on arena day or incursion days ….

[ruby axle]

One of the outpost types specifically gives pvp buffs. If they can't be used for arena, or during an incursions to another server, the use cases start to look rather limited.

[gloomy rover]

if PvP your thing sure

[lucid sonnet]

suggestion:

FREE Mirror Uhuru

remove rank gate or have other alternative sourcing

[gloomy rover]

Tbh I spent a lot time in arena to unlock her. Never used her once 😶

[safe frost]

yeah uhura is super niche, never really used her.

[silver halo]

And that is why she should be freed.. Not like she is a daily game changer.

[worldly rapids]

Clearly STFC has zero problems giving us more passes. We now have this Outpost pass.

To add to WD pass, Territory pass, Ferengi pass, and other occasional passes

Players seem to have no issues with passes. When there's event synergy. Which you guys have done a great job of lately

Even content creators /influencers seem to be thumbs up on passes. They're not inflaming the masses on this

So why is it that we cannot get a pass for Arenas? To increase participation. The SMS you ran that one time did wonders. Imagine what a pass would do

@paper olive

[lucid sonnet]

no pass will increase arena turnout. removing rank gates will slightly increase turnout as ppl will be able to spend currency on stuff they currently cannot obtain.

thats like asking for a worms bp ... not happening

[muted perch]

areana is a typical pvp ...... chamber that is more unjoyable than enjoyable..

matchmaking is always hard to do and other games ive played indicates its probably impossible to make close games happen

[weary storm]

Arenas: Matchmaking broken since day 1, buggy every run, too limited time window. Not even sure a 100 sig-trit would get me to interact with that pile of garbage.

[muted perch]

grit ones teeth, try to score as many points as possible so u have enough terran rep and credits to play with for the next week

some game hosts need to make a dedication to the areana battle or whatever else they doing.. no one wants to waste time sitting in a 3/3 player ready to go execept for the host.. thats not pushing the go button...

hosts are wrecking areana battles more than scopley is... we want to play do or die get enough pts... 400 x 10 games is 4000 get a couple wins at 1000 ... 1200/day x 7 = 8400 max pulls for 1 week !!!!

[oak wave]

I think an arena bp is a great idea @worldly rapids . The sms that was run did increase participation and the more people that play the better the product. I believe arenas are the most fun I have playing stfc. It is a good mechanic and done with people who understand what to do can be a great time. I also encourage anyone who does them to do them in a voice channel if possible

[sage shuttle]

I don't enjoy pvp, but the Arena mechanic is great. Unfortunately it is so poorly implemented, and beset with issues, (lag, matchmaking etc. l won't take part, even though l'd love some of that premier dust.

[oak wave]

I agree that matchmaking used to be a real issue but feel that has been addressed. There are certain ops levels that are pressure points for sure but if you spread your teammates ops levels it allows for better matchups

[brittle scarab]

I would suspect matchmaking would improve with greater participation

[sage shuttle]

And participation would improve with better matchmaking 😀
The real problem for me is that too much stuff doesn't work in Arenas, lag, rubber banding, ghost ships and armadas, and so it goes on.
The general unfairness in pvp is just down to choices we all make, (major on hostiles or pvp, spend or not spend etc.)
l'm ok with that, it's just the broken nature of the actual mechanics in the event keeps numbers down and ensure "sub optimal" matchmaking.
I haven't actually done Arenas for many months, but based on what l see and read, it hasn't really changed since l last took part.

[slate plinth]

My biggest issue is the 8 hrs. It has always ran during my work time in manufacturing where people get fitted for being on a phone and not working.

It should be 24 hrs or the hours should rotate so EVERYONE gets to participate.

Every alliance I’ve ever been in has a day shift and a night shift. Certain people are severely handicapped due to location. (Time zone), work schedule, lifestyle, etc

[muted perch]

they tried a monday schedule once.. that was it... maybe 3x /week and different times ? make them a 12 hr clock ... no one is going to sit there and play it for 12 hrs... they would be capped anyways as to how much they can spend in the store anyways... when u have a mill pts and u can only use 50k a day do u keep stocking pts not likely.

that would get some of the whales out of the system at times so smaller players can have more challenging events and more fun

i get enough pts for the weeks pulls, i might stay around if things are good but good never rides the waves for long.. u crash or your team mates are done and looking for a new crew

and i agree voice is good for those... esp to figure out if your leader is there to push buttons for GO ... thats still the most annoying thing and that is a player problem

[cyan void]

nice arena bug. need to restart app to get into arena area

[fickle niche]

guess <@&1245726040848994314> arenas is officially dead? been almost 10 minutes. no matches 😵‍💫

[safe frost]

lag is terrible today. Multiple times where my ship get stuck in warp, massive delays on attacks, crashes every time i enter the arena

[versed cipher]

as an ops51 I can create a squad with the range 47-55, yet I'm put against an ops 58? It's literaly pointless to try and compete.

[dim lantern]

What's the point in adding new pvp officers while not bothering to rework arena, raiding, and incursion to be a more palatable experience

[mighty turret]

Make this make sense

And just so you know it's not sour grapes, this isn't fair either 😂😂

[spice edge]

Anyone else getting this whenever going into arena? Can restart to get round it, but it's abit of a nuisance.

[fleet steeple]

What is this matchmaking….

[spice edge]

Did you win? Your 46 is pretty strong, he might be able to take them with max fort, the stronger ones are only silver.

[red yoke]

omg

[fleet steeple]

Yeah we pulled it off. The 46 did really well.

[dapper wave]

matchmaking was brutal today

[fleet steeple]

Maybe one day they can fix this matchmaking. 3 games of 50’s is ridiculous….

Got me demoted because of this…

Last game for me. Did not win…

But on the bright side my team did well on the other games. But yeah. Done for the day. LLAP 🖖🏽

[obtuse island]

oh dear, had a team just score 0 points against me 😂

[obtuse island]

👋

[drowsy breach]

Game freezes every time we enter a match 703

[obtuse island]

same, my ctrl-alt-delete is working overtime today

[drowsy breach]

Npw ships get stuck on warp

In

[frosty cedar]

what's with the multiple loading screens following arena runs? it's been a couple months now. first one brings me back to server, and then 15 seconds (or when everyone readies up, I'm not sure which) it goes through a second loading screen that seemingly does nothing

[drowsy breach]

Worst yet. New content?

[frosty cedar]

seems fair

[drowsy breach]

Clearing cache also froze game

[sharp lichen]

Well Arena is busted. No groups at all

[drowsy breach]

Awful

Don't even know where my ships are

Well, as it keeps freezing my game, might be difficult to find

First time I've complained which should tell you how bad it is

@obtuse island not a bug. Just an afk team

[gloomy rover]

Please move Arenas back to Monday, Fridays is impossible for so many

[winged sand]

Couldnt take part in Arena today becasue i was holding an Outpost for 6 hours

[paper lodge]

3 freaking battles. The same match. Now I remember why I HATE this stupid event

[rose locust]

One of that matches, neither team could attack the other once armadas were called - as soon as ships entered the circle it didn't work. I tried it, the other team tried it, our ships just flew up and sat there. There was time, it just didn't work. Also got the login or retry screen once, and the frozen spinning icon screen once.

On the bright side, it appears I can actually look at more than one team without restarting the game! Of course I still can't join from that screen...

I really think the matchmaking can be improved, but it doesn't look like there's the will to do it. Won one, lost two, the one I won was as lopsided in my favor as one of the losses was in theirs.

[plucky flint]

glad to see absolutely no improvements in the match making, keep up the great work scopely

need to give the overpowered teams a mismatch bonus

[normal ibex]

I win one match and they put my team up against one with 3x our power.. we get rolled 1000-100 and then we get matched again 🙄

[hazy basin]

Can Scopley admit the impulse cap in arenas doesn't count the primes? I'm well past it and people move 3-4x fast like when it was broken, still

My ship is next to another ship and when I attack it shows 9s and a ship half way across the map just zips across. We know what you did, you nerfed the free impulse only

[night stone]

I am done with arenas. They are terrible. The match making is a joke since PVP in this game is a joke, there is no real PvP it’s just who has the bigger ship 99% of the time. For example three ops 41 against 3 ops 44, yeah like we had a chance.

[worldly rapids]

I do not have an impulse prime. Neither of my alliancemates do either

I'm part of the squad that was beating you those back-to-back matches while you were making this post

[hazy basin]

were you seeing your ship across the map like we were?

[worldly rapids]

I've experienced that bug before. But not tonight

The bug I kept experiencing tonight was my ship is tied up stuck in the "IN BATTLE" sequence, and I have to restart my client to free it & be able to use it again

There's certainly some recurring glitches, and that one you experienced tonight is one of them

[hazy basin]

One of you intercepted my ship at the bottom then the one at the top within 2s after the first battle ended with the same ship

Got between me and the ship I was waiting to finish an armada or a fight and got there first.

[spice fjord]

Lol you can't be serious

Quit. Button.

This is right after I had to deal with a ship that I waited between it and it's circle and it somehow sped past me to fight it's mada.

[charred barn]

ugh...matchmaking is terrible...

[plucky flint]

they need separation of the G lvls at the vary least. g4 shouldnt have to fight g5, or g5 vs g6 , etc

[vapid spoke]

Funny, that is why I dont participate, STFC has the worst pvp model I have ever seen.

[safe frost]

60s are usually able to take on 63s, 50s can take on 53s. Just gotta know how to crew and what research to focus on

[tight nimbus]

Why? Can't you get a new job to fit in with scopely?

[tight nimbus]

Used to have to submit a ticket for that so things are looking up 😄

[spice edge]

And if they don't know what they're doing, just outplay them. I'll take three 53 Silver or Gold over one 50 Plat 1.

[gloomy rover]

what does a job got to do with it? Its Friday! end of business week, no one spending there time playing video games, its called a real life look it up

[tight nimbus]

I think you will find a lot of people play games on a Friday night

[gloomy rover]

You are missing the point. Please stop being negative

[tight nimbus]

How am I being negative? You just said people who play games on a Friday don't have lives ... OK 🤣

[gloomy rover]

No I said you don’t. I gave feedback on the game and you responded with a very aggressive negative comment t

[late rune]

With these arenas very rarely do you get close battles. Itd either win easily or lose easily. I do like smashing a l60 though who don't have a clue...

[safe frost]

Not sure what you’re doing then, almost all of my recent battles have been pretty close, even when we didn’t stand a chance against their carry. Might want to rework your team setup or strategy then

[gloomy rover]

mine are the same, you either win easy or lose easy. never see a fair match. But for loses a forfeit button is required so your not forced to wait whilst the other team wins

[late rune]

I think i know what I am doing seeing as I am top on our server. I do have the correct crews and strategy. I am unlikely to win against a 3m power ship L60 but I am going to smash a l53 with a 1m ship. As i said most are not close. Most are easy wins or easy losses. There are occasions when a l60 comes in and they are underpowered

[safe frost]

I obviously don’t know what ships and research etc you have, but I guarantee you power does not mean that you know what you’re doing. I’ve seen someone with ships 20 times my size just follow around the ship of my team mate and never do any armadas while we killed his team.

[late rune]

I max research every level.just moved to L57 with 1.5b sanctus and 1.3b qe sompek. Always use correct pvp crews. But i go in with gs31 and sanctus. Armadas all the way.

[safe frost]

Normal research isn't everything anymore. FCs, favours, artefacts are more important by now. Do you know how to sneak armadas? Do your team mates know when to buff and debuff? How does your team setup usually look?

[late rune]

I don't set up a team. I choose who to join. Trust me I know all about favours, FCs, artefacts etc. I knowvwhat i am doing. If arenas were vased on proper levels I'd win every time.

[safe frost]

The likely hood of getting a good team setup with randoms is pretty low. Better to have a few people that know what they’re doing

[warm nimbus]

Hi STFC, I’m the founder of the STFC Gladiators discord dedicated to arenas. How about we move arenas back to Monday?

[drowsy breach]

Oh please don't

[plucky flint]

right right, and when that g5 is 2x your power, ya ya crewing makes up the difference.. IN WHAT WORLD

[slate plinth]

Make it no less than 12 hrs and no more than 24 hrs. You got it set in the middle of my work day so I’ll never get to participate

[safe frost]

I know someone who’s killing 60s at 50. Research and crewing makes all the difference.

[bitter nebula]

Regardless of day of the week, someone wont be happy

[warm nimbus]

I routinely take out G6 ships 5x the power of my Rotarran because of my dedication to crewing and research. Long gone are the days where a ships power correlates to its strength in combat.

[woeful lava]

You mean mining ships? Mining ships are not actually 5x your power, despite what the numbers imply.

[warm nimbus]

! This is an arenas message board, why would I talk about survey ships? Why are you talking about survey ships? I’m talking about consensual combat in arenas.

[strange mirage]

Just wanna point out matches like this (what your original post was complaining about) aren't always unwinnable. We won this match handily and none of them could kill my ships.

Don't get me wrong, this doesn't happen all the time, but it can

[warm nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1394464384419500074/1428860419249803285/7757EFAE-6E21-4619-AD00-CCB25AF929FF.png?ex=69145636&is=691304b6&hm=368aed2677ec679ebfdffd543382ef0619800d50650e6dfc4464aecf5ceb92be&

Here’s another example of teamwork and understanding the mechanics of the game to win against more powerful opponents

[fallow comet]

When will original arena come back? You know the compensation chest type.

[orchid sequoia]

Nice work.

[slate plinth]

When will it be open to everyone is all I want to know.

[gloomy rover]

🤔 when will which be open?

Arena is a 40+ feature

[opal belfry]

try it with 64+

[slate plinth]

That lasts eight hours, that runs on a weekday. See out in the real world there are a lot of people who make this world go round by doing a job. Many of those people build things with their hands. Their employers don’t like paying people to look at a phone and will often fire them for doing so. I know this is difficult to comprehend if you have never seen it in real life, google it if you don’t believe me. 🤣

[thorn thicket]

Super awesome mining ship right there. And my rot wasn't even maxxed yet

[velvet condor]

🥲

[shell garnet]

It Is not balanced, it is not fair!

[last holly]

Nice matchmaking

[hollow thunder]

Solution for Machtmaking: Let players compete against each other who invest the same amount of money in this game each month. It's no fun to play against overpowered players who invest between £1k and £10k a month

[bitter nebula]

What about people who dont push ops for 2 years, and get everything maxed?

[modest estuary]

Tried arenas again after long break… will be an even longer break thanks to #incompetentscopely and its inability of making even somewhat fair matches. Bravo for screwing up a great idea - could have been my favorite event 👏
Vengeance just allowed whales to make arenas totally unfair and to feel good against non-Vengeance/lower ops players 😏

[hollow thunder]

I'm talking about the money invested, not ops. Ops should be equal and not have a 6-level difference in a ‘fair’ matchmaking.

[spice edge]

The laughs are worth the loss. You are funny, Matchmaker.

[dim lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-donkey-turn-stop-slow-gif-25311681

another week of broken arena matchmaking

[frosty cedar]

in fairness, based on the # of public squads I've seen launched, I don't think many people are used to the daylight savings start time, so matchmaking's gonna be borked for a bit

[dim lantern]

I think arenas is pretty much dead content for normal players. I only ever get matched with sweats now, and even this channel has been pretty much quietened down

[modest estuary]

It‘s rotten since Vengeance owners kill non-Vengeance players like flies and due to TPs everyone has easy access to ST‘s. So it‘s only about who spent more money on pvp buffs. Smart playing or crewing doesn‘t matter anymore. What a shame…

[rough plume]

Maybe Arenas should be completely rebuilt. Local server, with 2x2 squads and like a wave, they can be arena systems. Once the leader starts it, all must be within 4 levels of them to join. There could be different arena systems 1x1 battles, 2x2, etc, like how waves have different systems; group, solo and solo elite; always available for battles. With outposts now, this wouldn't recall all ships. could keep miners in token systems. would be a much better way to have them IMO.

[frosty cedar]

not especially helpful. match found but no players listed, and no button to join. had to restart

[muted perch]

areanas are really bad... rebuild to give us something else to do to get some terran credits... this is not tollerable and not just by me... no terran rep growth might be no longer game for me... fix it !!!! do something so we can score small and larger whales

im not spending money on pvp buffs.. if that is scopelies wish i wont be in the game or no longer advancing very few 70 players or high 60s and this is killing game promotion

have a nice F ield day Us uck

[frosty cedar]

is your space key broken?

[muted perch]

ive had alot of games where i had to reboot the game to make arena function getting into a game, refreshing, stuck mid load

i love my space key... u like it toooooo ?

[night stone]

Fix arenas to make them fair or get rid of them.

[inland cairn]

Arena matching broken? Did we revert back to the old +-6 ops levels or something?

[night stone]

I don’t even want to try them anymore I guess I just won’t get what ever benefit they are for.

[inland cairn]

Well we beat them. The only ships we couldn't kill came from the 71.

[ocean pivot]

Since when is this a fair arena fight

[muted perch]

this one loooks good.... hope they like to play all lonely and just kill areaa frieghters... ill take 400 next game plse

[inland cairn]

At least we are all in the same G bracket not a 71 that is in G7 while we are in G5.

[muted perch]

high your on that side of the game sorry for twice as sorry for our side would like a couple wins to get my 7200 credits so i dont have to waste more real life time than neccessary

[night stone]

Maybe add the ability to leave the stupid arenas. It be nice not to waste my time when yet again I am put in a match we have zero chance of winning.

[frosty cedar]

if they added that, I'd want them to impose a high penalty. like a 30 min flag that doesn't allow you to join arenas

[muted perch]

i go in and check things.. out... what fool going to go back in when ship powers are 2x or 3x your size... couple weeks ago i played with 700 mill ship vs 1.5 or better than same ship over 1 mill now i have another new one at 1.6 mill what i see today 3mill so i see how the game scheme works... i was better off when i was two ops lower and had 500 mill ship

[raven dove]

NO FAIRNESS IN ARENA MATCHING....

Ops 49 and lower are no match with 50s plus...stop matching us against higher ops

[muted perch]

doesnt matter what my ops level grows to be .. their ships always 2x or better mine... its the ship hp/evaluations that make it a loss... not the ops level.. but that is how they sell the pvp bonus paid for by cash not game credits that makes them money and distorts this areana the way it is distorted

its just a scam for money..... wish terran credits could be won differently somehow but i guess that wont happen... if they took some of the things we want to earn with credits and made them available in other faction stores that would be nice but that wont happen either

so last match ... my 1.5 mill max against 3 to over 6 mill wow

im already out of match mine was 1.5

once again only thing to say is NEXT im dont have all night

[muted perch]

this is sure to work out welll lol

[wraith turtle]

Yup, verry fun again this week with ships getting stucked in warp and subspace interference when trying to move manually a ship after a kill. 👏 👏 👏 Good job! You guys should get big performance bonus with the participation trophy you get for working on this game 👏 👏 👏

[muted perch]

so now 10 billion cube vs 1.5 ? time to say night... skopley draws air way too fast they cant figure it out they lose

night all wonderful time ill play terran fac store with the dismal credits i have

[rigid void]

did arena rank scoring change? I'm losing 700 points (when it used to be only 400)

[spice edge]

Did you get promoted? It caps out at +-1000 points a match, earlier on you get more for a win than you lose for a loss, think that changes somewhere in gold, but I can't remember exactly where.

[rigid void]

I got demoted to gold

[night stone]

If someone is 5 or 6 ops higher yeah it makes a difference.

[spice edge]

I'm afraid I can't remember what the point situation was in gold, except it was the same for a win or loss. Are you gaining 700 for a win?

[spice edge]

You get 400 for a loss, I completely understand the people who join and don't do anything. They're at least getting something. Some favours and Uhura are locked to ranks, but you can still get a fair amount of stuff from the shop if you never win. Not defending Scopely at all, but startinga match and going AFK for 7 minutes is a viable strategy to get something.

[rigid void]

Im getting 700 for a lost and I think I was getting 700 for a win early....but its been a while since Ive won

[spice edge]

Hmm, well like I said I can't remember exactly what the numbers were, but if you're gaining and losing the same amount that is what I remember starting in Gold.

[rigid void]

this losing rank points is dumb

[ocean pivot]

Arenas are possibly the worst thing added to the game your always matched with players much stronger then you the lag makes it almost unplayable and there is no way to go back to the main game until the match is over also every time you leave a match all of the dialogue for your missions resets so you have to spend a few minutes going through it

[spice edge]

Turn this off. The rest I can't help with.

[rigid void]

this will go well......

[spice edge]

Still a better match than this: #💣-arena-feedback message

On the other hand this one looked fair but was really not.

Matchmaking is obviously terrible, but it's one thing I think is actually ridiculously hard, with how the game works.

[rigid void]

now my arena is frozen!

[shy linden]

presenting even matchups by scopely

[ocean pivot]

It’s already off

[spice edge]

Odd, I don't get the messages when I come back. Maybe try archiving all the missions then as a workaround?

[rigid void]

https://streamable.com/0hmnst here's a video of my last match showing one of my ships stuck in battle, unresponsive, and multiple ghost armadas. (link is only good for 2 days) Ive also sent an email to support.

[shy linden]

I have that off, I still get to go through all the mission text whenever I am forced to reload during arenas

[strange mirage]

A bunch of your complaints listed here, reading further up, boil down to you having less research and overall power than 2/3rds of your fellow ops60's. This may seem blunt but, at the end of the day pvp in this game boils down to research, crews, and firing patterns (and yes ofc spenders).
The ss you showed of 2x 56's and yourself vs 2x 56's and another 60.......that is about as balanced a match up as anyone could ask for. At the end of the day, if you can't outright beat their ships in 1 on 1 battles, use tactics like joining armadas in the last 10 seconds, using hostiles to cancel incoming attacks etc.

To add to that, this was a match up I had and we walloped them. Ops and power number doesn't always equate to easy wins.

*before someone says it, no I am not a whale, I haven't paid for anything on this game in months and even when I did, my budget capped out at a BP per month 😅

[warm nimbus]

What happened to the concurrent events during arenas? It would be nice to see a combination of SMS/AMS and respective leaderboards. We’ve wanted something along those lines since arenas started.

[spice edge]

Yes, they could have made things a bit more interesting keeping those in, and maybe iterating on them a bit... but nope, vanished. Anything nice must be taken away.

[warm nimbus]

I want to have fun playing a video game. It’s safe to say that those who enjoy arenas are competitive and leaderboards would we welcomed. Involving alliances would increase participation, while simultaneously increasing the value of the new officers and could open the door for a long anticipated expansion to the Terran faction.

[spice edge]

I agree, it's quite sad how much Scopely seems to want to suck the fun out of what is A GAME, and just rely on habit/addiction/whatever the word is for the social let down of leaving.

[warm nimbus]

I don’t think they want to. They just have no earthly clue how to make it fun. For instance, making the Genesis Device, arguably the most iconic item in Star Trek lore, DOA day one useless crap instead of maybe making it the best PVP chaos tech ever is not generating income or interest.

How about this, instead of making another worthless specialty ship no one wants next month, how about expanding the Defiant to 21 tiers instead? Make it the masterful PvP ship it was in the series while expanding its supportive abilities?

[spice edge]

Perhaps I see intention where you see incompetence, but we do seem to agree they are not doing well. Genesis Device would at least, at least have made sense as tech for the Reliant, not the random Revenant.... It's like Enaran Execution Post and Eviscerator... absolutely no logical link, and not even in a way that would cost them. Call it Scotty's Gorn Transponder, or whatever the thing was in that SNW episode and it make some sense at least.

[warm nimbus]

It is shocking that no one at a billion dollar company stops production and says, “Hey, that is a horrible decision both in a playability and credibility. Furthermore it is financially reckless.” But I honestly think they come up with this stuff and sit around high-fiving each other thinking it’s brilliant. Look at the shock and animosity on that guy Collin’s video when he overtly lied to us.

[spice edge]

I honestly don't understand it... I'd have thought the Star Trek IP would be quite expensive to get hold of and keep. That Star Trek Online game seems to have made a decent effort of it, and got a bunch of stuff actually recognised in newer shows... I'm not sure Scopely's going to get that accolade (though as I have said, I like their graphics people, especially the Romulan side of things.)

[warm nimbus]

The issue is leadership. They are the Pittsburgh Pirates of video games. When you have the best pitcher in the league you still lose more games because you also have the worst owner.

[spice edge]

Oh, also whoever writes Pelia in the missions, that's funny. But yeah, I know top down people are going to make it all crap, just like the odd little bits of people who care showing up.

[earnest pike]

Seems fair 🤣🤣🤣

🤦‍♂️

[rocky crypt]

I raise you:

[north spruce]

These are still a thing? I wish they would just give up changing the day doesn’t fix the horrid mechanics

[full lagoon]

This is why i don’t do them anymore. Completely pointless

[ashen saffron]

This arena event is really frustrating. I joined a squad many times, pressed ready but the match did not start.

[sinful seal]

can any explain this ?

[spice edge]

Often the leader doesn't click ready, try starting your own?

[ashen saffron]

OK that is what i was thinking. There should be a way to talk to the leader for public squad. Thx for the answer 👍

[manic jacinth]

This shouldn't happen

[spice edge]

Neither should this.

[spice edge]

Did you manage yours?

[torn salmon]

🤦‍♂️

[steel dirge]

avg 43 vs 43. looks good

[ionic dawn]

Matching isn’t broken. You just can’t sit in a match queue and expect not to be moved up onto a band that has active groups waiting.
People complaining that the game is wrong when they just don’t know how to play is annoying.

[rocky crypt]

Match making has its flaws but is not the main issue. Ship positioning, e.g. Cube, lag, etc should have been fixed ages ago. Ships under the armada banner are near impossible to select.

[torn salmon]

lol the 46 has 160mill ships and i have maximum 35 mill

[spice edge]

He's definitely beatable below ops 46 though, if you put time into getting powerful, it's not like he's three ship tiers higher

[regal dirge]

wrong chat sorry

[wicked osprey]

How about readjusting the arenas somehow? You guys have effectively cut me off from them because now they only run on a day I work and I am at work the entire time they run.

[frosty cedar]

this channel is for arena feedback specifically

this is the second time the game has completely frozen after an arena run. I've been doing arenas since they started, and this is a new bug to me

[spice fjord]

Still needs a quit button. Just give it up already. Arena has blown since the start and it gets worse every week. I'm 64 with 2 60s facing a 63 60 and a 67 I can't even tickle.

Lmao 61 62 and me vs a 66 68 and 62. QUIT BUTTON.

[narrow obsidian]

There needs to be an alternative source of Terran faction rep and resources because once a week arenas with horrendously bad matchmaking is not enough to make any noticeable progress. This is the third week I have done arenas and it has gotten worse every week

Today in addition to it being extremely unbalanced in matchmaking, I wasn’t even able to target the arena hostiles. I could click on them, but the attack button never lit up

[spice fjord]

One day a week while I work and have to burn thousand's of rep points to get basically no rewards while being forced to wait for unbalanced matches to play out is ridiculous. Quuuuiiiiitttttt button

[torn dagger]

Seems like the biggest Matchmaking issue is entering the Arena as a Team rather than just joining a queue as individuals. Let the Matchmaking select even Teams from the people in the queue.

[spice fjord]

Lol and jammed back against the same team I just finished waiting out. Thanks Scopely!

[odd bough]

I think i am done with arenas. Except for the free repair....there is no point for a mostly ftp/light spender. There are 3 major hidden paywalls and unless you have all 3, you can not win.

[broken wagon]

This is the dumbest mechanic in the game. Its not fun. One guy with 400B ships just wipes you out.

[odd bough]

Had a 550b in the last one....on a 72

[spice edge]

You need to camp massively, it still works for Arena. Though they are really trying to force it out as a playstyle for other things.

[odd bough]

I aint camping for pvp. There are too many paywalls. Even if i had every ftp, eveey hidden paywall pvp, I would still lose.

I am pushing pve....that is the game. Pvp is a distraction.

[coral spoke]

pressing atttack multiple times doesn't attack a player.... missions keep popping up when it comes out of arena.... lag is horrible.... it's very frustrating

[inland heart]

Lag is horrid, what is going on, its really really bad, ping pong

https://tenor.com/view/lag-999ms-ping-lagging-delay-gif-25051830

[thorn thicket]

Must be new. Pve and pvp kind of work hand in hand in this game.

[odd bough]

Pvp is not need to advance....anything other than itself. You can build every building, ship, ans research without attacking a single player. You can complete almost every event without attacking a player.

Pvp can only speed up the game a little bit. You can not level off just pvp.

[torn salmon]

Sorry but no payer here on my side, getting primes takes time

[cosmic trellis]

Hey, i recently came back to the game and saw that we have arena now. I managed last week to play it and collect points for a week to spend. Now yesterday couldnt manage to do that because of all the stuff dailies i need to do in game and time i managed to spend in game the arena was over. Dont you think that arena time is little short to be opened? Then i am asking why dont you leave arena open over a weekend, because you have multinational game players all over the world and that many of us can spend one day afternoon every time for arena, shouldn't it be more flexible?

[slate plinth]

Been asking for this since day one. Scopely has only denied the request.

[cosmic trellis]

denid? i dont think so... maybe they just considering until the application is full with the players who need this kind of a change

The question is , are they want the game to be played or not? 😉

[slate plinth]

Well it’s been brought up over and over and over, the only change was the day of the week. It stayed 8 hrs. I had the personal joy of having a job change coincide so other than the first 3 I’ve never been allowed to join arenas. To me they are a myth, a legend, a thing of by gone times, never to be played again.

[cosmic trellis]

Sorry to hear that, but thats my point you cant manage to get it every friday and then maybe you'll catch it on Saturday or Sunday and probably many would play it

[slate plinth]

It needs to be 24 hrs.

It needs to have a quit/walk away option to speed it along. But again, scopely says no to both with no reasoning why

[gloomy rover]

Plus different days, i barely managed to do it on a Monday. But now its on friday have not done it once

[summer loom]

I can't speak for Scopely, however I thought about your question and it may be a case of getting enough numbers on at the same time so that the queuing dosn't take forever and also provides a greater variety of matches. If the event was spread out over a weekend, the que wait may go up and you might end up fighting the same team all day long more frequently.

[slate plinth]

But opening it up to 24 hours allows 3x the players to participate. ( 8 hrs sleep, 8 hrs work, 8 hrs STFC)

[cosmic trellis]

Well thats about Scopley to do the math about variety. But about number of participants yes i am the example of it, if arena time was longer i could have participate in it and probably more people would have.

[cosmic trellis]

Well that 8 hours of Stfc varies if you have family and sruff to do

[modest jasper]

Dass immer weniger bei der Arena mitmachen iegt wohl an den BESONDEREN Spieler. Diese mit ops 51 2MRD Schiffe haben, die Spieler schneller sind ......

[slate plinth]

Totally agree

[spice edge]

I fully agree, it takes ages, but it's the only real way to compete F2P.

[slate plinth]

There is no real way to compete that’s F2P. Not against a spender. They get primes F2P will NEVER get.

[safe frost]

It’s true, a good F2P player can never beat a good P2W player. However, there are only very few good P2W players, which is why it’s very much possible to compete F2P

[slate plinth]

I’ll give you that, the most competent F2P can compete against an incompetent P2W.

[safe frost]

Even mid level F2P can win against incompetent P2W, that’s why arena is absolutely possible F2P. You “just” need to put in some effort

[slate plinth]

And you need to be allowed entry. Not everyone is. I have a job, working with my hands, in an industry that doesn’t pay you to play on your phone. Other than 3/4 times I’m never allowed entry due to a short set time that never changes. Complete failure on scopelys part.

[safe frost]

Yeah it should rotate the day more often

[slate plinth]

It should rotate the hrs over the day imho. You’re still blocking the same people if you just change the day.

[grand light]

Really? Then how do you clear miners sitting on zero on nodes? Pvp is a core mechanic of the game, taking it out just makes it Farmville in space - that is not what this game is about.

[lilac lichen]

I haven’t seen stats in a bit, but what are we down to, 4K players? Scopley…
#freetheterranfactionstore !

[gloomy rover]

a bit more then 4K

[odd bough]

Yes, pvp is needed to prevent a single alliance from shutting down the entire game if there was no pvp allowed...but if thst was the case, there would have been enough nodes for everyone. Pvp is needed only if an alliance tries to shut down growth. It can be used to speed up progress. It can not advance the game on its own.

[thorn thicket]

It was said that they can be used together for better advancement. Did not say it would advance the game on its own.

[little panther]

Arena is still a great idea but the match ups are still so bad that unless you are a spender in Arena or huge that you lose most of the time like 90% I'm level 70 and still get terrible matches so many times that it's just not fun to win one out of 10/15 times. Going up against 71s 72s that out power all 3 of your team put together is pointless, I can't even get to the level needed for loot in faction store, I was gold once after one good week, then lost it all the following week and went back down so far can't even get premium mirror dust or anything useful. This is one aspect of the game I wish they would rework to make it where everyone could enjoy

[grand light]

That makes less sense. How could one alliance shut down the game?

What PVP does allow/assist with is event completion, clearing zero nodes, or collecting rss from bases when players forget/refuse to shield. But this is done in tandem with the pve mechanics of the game. Can't have one without the other. And to say that this is a pve game makes no sense as pvp has been allowed/encouraged since day 1.

[frigid cypress]

Is this stfc or a farmers market🤣🤣..

[cyan void]

why can't they just uncap impulse speed. if the games gonna break anyways I may as well just get the fighting chance😂

[safe frost]

To spite you Specifically.
(A max impulse 73 might be a little mean too)

[cyan void]

well i guess so

my tinhat theory is the whales complained too much cuz they kept losing to babies that ran max speed and ran around them and prevented them from winning so scopely capped speed so babies cant win easily like that anymore

[fleet steeple]

So happy to see the “state of the game” message address arena and its matchmaking… oh wait. It didn’t.

[cold fiber]

This is why I continue to boycott arenas

I know I should still try to do them but it just feels wrong playing a game to not have fun

[hollow thunder]

Arena is incredibly bad. It's always just the hardcore money players against you. Are they even playing against themselves? As an F2P or a player who maybe buys one pack a month, this mode is unplayable.

and the third time in a row the same enemy Team...

[rocky crypt]

Any tips on how to beat this? 🤣

[dim lantern]

anyone seen my brudda Badrock, if so tell him i've been waiting to squad up

[rocky crypt]

@gritty cobalt arena's breaking down again. ships stuck in position. not warping to the system. armada's not despawning!

2nd time tonight. Waste of time so time for 🍺

[tame root]

Same…😵‍💫

Grrrr, kindly, fix this tedious infernal broken 💩 arenas <@&509690795536941056> 😡

Every single week it’s the same repeated wonky stuffs over and over again with Arenas, literally haven’t had ONE (!) single week where it was working smoothly…

[rocky crypt]

Even clicking the arena system is impossible at times.

[frosty cedar]

could we please add an option, say after 60 seconds, for players other than the squad leader to remove us from the queue? we've been "SEARCHING FOR OPPONENT" for at least two minutes now and our squad leader doesn't seem to have any intention of dequeueing and requeueing us. and because it's a public squad and they're on a different server, I have no way to contact him

it finally popped while I was typing out that essay, so roughly 3 mins in the queue

[torn salmon]

aint making a comment on this🤦‍♂️

like what is this matchmaking, what result are you expecting

[frosty cedar]

that's actually pretty good matchmaking

[torn salmon]

what?

in what case is this good lmao

oh yeah i see, almost no difference

[frosty cedar]

that's a difference of 2 levels difference, if you pull the average

[strange mirage]

The blunt and honest truth is, at ops43 you're more likely to have people above your ops matching against you did to the +4/-4.
Even there though, you can use tactics like speed crews, loot crews etc to beat them without direct combat

[frosty cedar]

why are you using a revenant and not an FKR ship?

[torn salmon]

speed

[visual parrot]

When you got a rare 46 ship and team up with 2x 42s to increase chances of all sub 46 squad matchup 😉

[torn salmon]

idk i think valdore/cube/d4 etc is what im running with the revenant

[torn salmon]

makes sense

but the 42 is literally twice as strong as me

[visual parrot]

That 42 got some extra $kills$

[strange mirage]

One thing people overlook wayyy too often is the ability to join and then leave their armada while it is counting down. Normally you have to be in the circle before 10secs hits. If you have already joined though, you can dart out, hit a hostile to prevent an attack, and then dart back in with a few seconds left and squeak it through. All without being targetable for attacks.
👆 Tactics!!
Wins way more matches than you'd think

[flat basalt]

If we ignore the levels the matchup is still bad. 2 plats should never be matched with a silver. I know it's normal because there is no rank based matchmaking in arena but that doesn't make it good.

[frosty cedar]

the system is designed to match people of similar ops and ranks, but declining participation rates are making that difficult. it then tries to match people of similar ops regardless of rank and then people of dissimilar ops and rank. there's not really a way to fix that, save incentivizing more participation. the only other alternative is super long queue times, which people would complain about too

[strange mirage]

The longer queue times is the reason we don't have 24hr arenas as well which everyone that argues for those seems to overlook as well.

[flat basalt]

There is no proof of the game trying to match teams based on rank. Only mountains of screenshots of all ranks mixed together.

[frosty cedar]

I don't have access to their code, so I can only guess, but I assume it's weighted more towards ops than it is rank

[strange mirage]

There was a post way back when they were still making alterations to matchmaking etc that did mention ranks I think

Regardless though, all a high rank means is either
A) they are a pvp focused player and have strong ships.
B) they have played arenas a ton and managed to slow grind up the ranks.
Or C) they have been part of a regular group that plays each week and can either carry or be carried.

Or all of the above 😅

[flat basalt]

Option B doesn't exist because you only climb with a positive winrate past gold 2.

Aside from the screenshots I can give you another reason why rank based matchmaking likely doesn't exist for arena.

If it did then you would be restricted on making parties with massively differing ranks.

[strange mirage]

I'm not saying it does exist, just going off of memory. To your last point though, in other games which allow team matchmaking, usually teaming up manually overrides some conventional matchmaking requirements.

But again, this is assuming rank means anything which doesn't seem to be the case

[hazy basin]

you can always tell when someone's using community mod. also may be why everything lags/is broke.

[frosty cedar]

what in that screenshot indicates the community mod?

[violet elk]

Are you kidding me scopely?

how is this even possible? its not like they have a 44 or something, its 47-47-50 against a 40-42-42, 5 levels apart

[violet elk]

id prefer a super long queue time than a gaurunteed loss

why would the system think we would be happy with a gaurunteed loss?

[frosty cedar]

there is no such thing as a 'guaranteed loss'. I'm ops 60, but at ops 56 I was beating mid g6 players because of strategy

[violet elk]

if you were ops 60 and were paired against an ops 68?

[frosty cedar]

ops 70 at one point

[violet elk]

and you won against an ops 70 with a team of less than 5 ops below?

[frosty cedar]

I won't say easily, but it's doable, yes

[violet elk]

what would you think the average win ratio of an ops 70 vs 62 is?

[frosty cedar]

low, but that's irrelevant to this conversation. I'll direct you back to the message that I authored/forwarded

[violet elk]

rememeber an ops 50 is much, much faster in terms of ship speed than us thanks to research

of course its relevant to this conversation

[hazy basin]

starting an armadas long after the first is started

[frosty cedar]

that's vanilla game mechanics

[fleet steeple]

I can agree that some of the issues is the decline in participation rates. But the reason why is because this matchmaking is garbage and inconsistent. You can't have a scenario where you're locked to recruit one team at certain ops levels & such but then also be prone to play against ANYONE. Especially in a scenario where if you lose, you lose points and after a certain amount of losses, you get demoted and locked out of premium mirror dust & such until you get back to that rank. That's a great way to get players to not play. And considering you have to be at least pretty strong, which takes time or money, it's ridiculous to have a sense where its a lose-lose situation with this mode.

And I hear about the "just sneak in armadas at the last minute" stuff. I've seen a lot of ships just zoom past and kill whatever and they don't even have speed crews. And I've done that and the armada still doesn't go off. Costed me games and such. And not even mentioning the bugs and glitches. This mode, while I do like it (When it works), is such a mess and honestly I feel like this is the only game where you get punished for improving slow but punished for leveling up fast. It's ridiculous.

[fleet steeple]

This rank system & matchmaking only works in a game like the old Street Fighters, Halo 2 or something, where while there can be some ridiculous stuff, much of the characters are consistently the same and it's on you to figure ways around and have knowledge on the match up or terrain. A game where having certain ships or not, certain crews or not, certain research or not, certain Forbidden/Chaos tech or not, etc. especially with it being ops specific some of it or locked behind a paywall, it's just not good.

[strange mirage]

Impulse speed is capped in arenas where even at ops46 I was hitting the cap using ERiker as captain or kuron on the side of a loot crew. Saying 50's have faster ships just isn't true if you crew for speed

To be clear(!!!) I'm not saying arenas are perfect, far from it. Every week I lose matches due to lag or my ships getting stuck in dock with the 00s warping glitch which should flat out never happen, but at the same time I'm not delusional and understand that I cannot win every single match no matter how much I manipulate the matchmaking. To expect matches where you are always either equal or higher ops than the other side just shows a misunderstanding of how pvp games work. There will ALWAYS be a few matches where you think "well ****, this is gonna be tough" and at that point you have to adapt your strategy and not just try to win ship vs ship combat.

[fleet steeple]

I don't think people are saying I'll win every game that I hop on. Even when I play against some players who are the same ops as me, I sometimes lose. That's no problem. Of course there's those who spend money but at this point, I'm not getting into the microtransaction battle again. I've dealt with it in 2k and a plethora of other games. The problem is the fact that even if I was to put the best squad for what I'm capped at (right now it's 43-51), I'm still prone to fighting now 56's and such. That's not good. When I was 42, I matched up with 53's. No "research" I do as a 42-47 is going to beat that unless the 56 literally does nothing with the game. And that happens more often than not. Especially now that people are quitting because they probably have ran into that issue. And top it off with a terran store that's dependent on you ranking up and winning and you're losing because they're not addressing this issue makes it worse and borderline unplayable.

I lose I get demoted then I'm locked out of premium mirror dust or officer shards and what not. It makes no sense. And it makes "Leveling up" Slower which I know STFC discusses time & time again.

[strange mirage]

If that level of matchmaking imbalance is happening regularly then the only thing I can suggest to help is manipulating the matchmaking in your favour (I.e making sure you only join team leaders at the lowest end of your bracket with the aim of being the "powerhouse" player in the group)

Everyone has a different experience but I don't have massively imbalanced matches that often and this could be the reason why 🤷 hopefully this could help

Again, only anecdotal, but ops46 was the sweet spot for me that allowed me to climb to max rank and stay there because of the power of the g4 rares (especially the pilum with the IST crew). That ship and crew alone can stand up to and beat the g4 epics depending on your opponent's crew and research, Artifacts etc.
I'm now ops50 and the only thing I think when seeing anyone higher than me is "better bring the mantis in this time just in case". Win rate is still verrry positive.

@spice edge you can probably attest to this 😋

[safe frost]

60 (or joining a strong 60) can be a good spot too

[fleet steeple]

I can't speak on Ops 46 being the sweet spot as I went past it and didn't really play Arena at 46. But I have heard that it's a good spot for getting far with Arena. I went 47 cause I heard overall it's great for camping but that's what I'll live with. I'll say this. With the manipulating matchmaking, I tried it, couple games I got even match ups, won one and lost one. It is what it is. But then third match, got a 47, 49 and such. It's just too spotty. I'm not saying that everyone's experience either. Some people can get good match ups and such. I'm not one of them, especially after this past Friday. And if I see week in & week out the same dynamics and such, then it is an issue that needs to be considered. At that point it then goes into the aspect of whether I played arena too late considering the drop-off in players & such but at the same time, the game also punishes for rushing too quick too.

[strange mirage]

I should probably add to my earlier point about being the "powerhouse" that is focused on beating the other team's ships; if you are not the type of player that likes pvp, or you are not as strong as others for your ops, you can do the reverse and create the team and have higher ops join you, with your focus being solely speed, tactics, and scoring points while your teammates keep you safe as best they can.

(Just don't be that person that creates a team and then goes afk or decides to edit and set up their crews after that, those people are rage inducing 😮‍💨😆)

[fleet steeple]

I can get that last one with the afk stuff. Puts me more in a situation to get the spotty matchmaking. At the end, I just think that the matchmaking is just a lot of gambling and to be fair, sometimes it got me on a good streak, sometimes it got me on some good close PvP battles, and unfortunately it also got me into the wonky 10 ops higher MU's (and that's been more often for me as of late). And the gambling aspect is frustrating considering what I lose if it doesn't pan out. I think it's different if I play and lose to players within my range and such. At least then I can think through what kind of crews I have, whether I need to find ways to tier up, etc. That's fair game. But a game thats too contingent on ships, crews, research, artifacts, forbidden/chaos tech, etc. and to top it off wonky matchmaking in a ranking system such as this that determines whether you can do certain research or not is just not good. The kind of ranking system that benefits from this is something like Street Fighter or Halo 2 & such where not saying this doesn't have strategy or anything but until now with modern gaming but lets say XBOX 360 days for Street Fighter, a hadouken is going to be the same hadouken as when it first came out. So regardless of rank, you still try to navigate certain things however they need be.

I like PvP (maybe not the ridiculous ranges and such but that's another topic), which is why I'm more animated regarding this but it is what it is. We'll see what happens next week, if I'm playing arena then. LLAP. Good convo. 🖖

[spice edge]

DemonChris has a good point there, go full in on knowing how to max points via speed, loot and armadas and sooner or later some PvP Powerhouse will notice you're a very efficient person to group up with.

[bitter nebula]

Im with @warm nimbus . A discord was setup for arenas to create favorable teams, so you dont have to rely on a random matchup, hoping everyone knows their job, and coordinates appropriately.
We use voice channels to communicate (not required) and text channels to help people find groups.
This doesn't change the problems of the matches with lag, ships stuck in warp and bad matchups, but it does help give everyone a better chance at winning, and moving up in ranking.

[thorn thicket]

Yall been using an lfg discord for arenas? That's a little too serious for my blood.

[safe frost]

Exactly, just take random teams so you can blame them when you lose. (I swear some of them forgot to build the armada control center)

[bitter nebula]

Nope. Stfc gladiators.

[tepid haven]

This right here is why I will never join Arenas. My alliance keeps telling me how great they are, yet this keeps happening to them and so many others. I just don't see the point no matter what the rewards might be.

[thorn thicket]

Still too serious for me.

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore. break off the arena rank requirements for purchases, excluding cosmetics. Give us another drip/source for arena emblems. When less than 2% of the player bases engages you know something is wrong. <@&509690795536941056>

[warm nimbus]

The Terran faction needs a linear progression perhaps with locks in place. It needs expanded to higher rep and rare credits that give updated rewards in the store and favors. How about Vengeance bps, even if it were only two a day with a max pull for G6 they’d quintuple participation. Also a weekly SMS, RSLB and RALB.

And move it back to Monday. MM is an agonizing daily event and arenas is the perfect aggressive counterbalance.

[rocky crypt]

Fix the bloody CUBE! Getting shot when it's shown on the other side of the system is 💩

[agile forum]

arenas dead? after almost 5min still no match

[ruby axle]

Just wanted to say matchmaking times improved considerably after Fist of the empire started. Big thanks to everyone involved in making sure that got fixed and returned.

[dim lantern]

i need a pvp crew with the hierarch pronto

[versed cipher]

Ship got stuck in combat during a match, couldn't use it anymore

[harsh grove]

Is this a fair comparison? @muted badger @gritty cobalt <@&509690795536941056>

[harsh grove]

I've participated in the arena exactly 5 times, and the result is always the same. I wonder if the game sees me as too powerful. 😄 @muted badger @gritty cobalt <@&509690795536941056>

[sweet garnet]

Amazing matching

[mighty turret]

Please we need a forfeit button (works like the "ready" button so all the team have to press it.)

90% of the time you can tell the outcome from the match up screen, 9% of the time it's obvious in the first 10 seconds when you see what pay to win tech the opponents have. Then we have to sit for 5 minutes while they grind armadas

[latent zodiac]

Make Arena without lag again.....

[glossy cobalt]

Well you're not showing much. All i see is 1 ops60. You may be ops56 or 66. But dont worry not many can beat igor anyway.

[peak garden]

What is _error_0?

[glossy cobalt]

Yea no chance for you. This was with all buffs on me and all debuffs on him.

[glossy cobalt]

It means you're too strong bunt

[harsh grove]

It needs to be new technology and tantalus field How else could you have blown it up? Or the ship's health was low.

[safe frost]

research and officers help a lot, sometimes the other person is lacking that in some key areas. Also don't underestimate the 60s

and it looks like he's running sorans (or the max fort carried hard) against a non qsd velox? That's a huge advantage

[peak garden]

Oh 😮 ok

🤣😇

[glossy cobalt]

I told you how my friend. Those buffs and debuffs are all maxxed out for me. They allow you to punch very hard. I have time crystal ft and sorans tril ct. I still dont have qss or tantalus field. I focus a lot on pvp so w.e thats free i try get it. I dont have any paid pvp primes. Thats why igor is so strong cuz he spends.

[peak garden]

You are not that bad hitto. For that we meet too often in arena 🏟️

It’s „Ivor“ 🙂

[glossy cobalt]

Id love to face you now. I think i could beat you now🤔 but once you go g6, no chance bro😬

[peak garden]

And Slipsteam is one key in PvP. After 3, 4 rounds you aren the ships hull

Slipstream is hard way but you ca get it free to play

[glossy cobalt]

Yea qss is a huge bonus if you have it. Makes your ship way stronger.

[harsh grove]

and I generally focus on PvP research.

[peak garden]

60? How did you do that?

[safe frost]

cts all go to 60, FTs are blocked

[peak garden]

yes

Sorry as I am playing arena I am less concentrated here

[rocky crypt]

We didn't bother.

[raw ibex]

I didn’t bother too much with this insanity…

[spare heath]

had some good matches. lag was bad in the last one. question though, does the mantis ability have no cooldown in the arena? we ran into a mantis that was just popping stings off. 🤣

[worldly rapids]

Thank you so much for listening and bringing back the Arenas SMS 🙏🙏

[warm nimbus]

Good work with the arenas SMS. How about a RSLB for arenas damage by ops and a RALB for wins? Make STFC Fun Again

Better yet RSLB for power destroyed. You can kill two stones with one bird by making PWD worth something.

[spare heath]

matching needs a lot of work. last one for the foreseeable future 🤣

[rigid topaz]

Not sure the server population supports the type of matchmaking needed and that's exacerbated by the game design. It's not like EVE or something where ships have a fairly predictable power limit and multiple smaller ships can attack the same target. It's just the biggest ship being many orders of magnitude better and wiping the entire other team.

[hazy basin]

Would really like a mechanism to blacklist people who open a room, and sit idle for long periods of time

[keen sparrow]

Arena is unplayable tonight. I'm seriously considering uninstalling this game.

[shadow glacier]

im in one of the newer servers. (717). most matchups are incredibly unbalanced for me, as even people I VS with the same ops level (42) can have ships up to 100m more power than my ships. Can there be some kind of matchmaking adjustments so that its a little more fair? when I joined I was in 718 that started in august. it merged into 717. similar considerations were made to exclude us from incursions entirely, I feel like the matchmaking could be weighted a little bit better for players like me in arena.

I mean really... an ops 42 player with a 128 million relativity? lol. I saw 150m earlier as well. my valdore is 38m at t11 😐 and thats a tier 5 rela

[torpid talon]

Million lol

[shadow glacier]

the server I joined is 4 months old and is still in g4

lol

[torpid talon]

The arena was ugly today. I was forced into it by the event....No wonder the called it the "Fist"👊🏼 because that's what it felt like...

I ran into a 26 billion Relativity, just saying

[full lagoon]

I haven’t done arenas since you guys released them. They were a horrible experience when they first came out. And not much has changed, arguably it’s worse.

When you try and join one. People kick you based on rank. So it’s impossible to get into one. You spend 20 minutes getting kicked before getting into one.

Then you constantly wait for every person to click ready, sometimes waiting twenty flipping minutes.

Then matching is horrible. You seriously should change it from ops. To tier of what ships they have. No way can a ops who just turned 70, compare to a max vengeance.

So if you can’t out power a max vengeance. Then you’d switch to speed crew. But you guys nerfed that, so it’s useless doing them.

Then the worst of all. Everytime you click attack, it hangs up. Allowing them to switch directions or attack a hostile. My ship kept flying where they use to be, when they had already changed to attack a hostile.

And another horrible thing. You’d click the freaking enemy, and it would unclick them. REPEATEDLY .

Your arenas are a horrible experience. Scrap the whole thing. If this content is how you guys think we will spend money. This game won’t be around next year

[frosty spoke]

@muted badger any idea what happened to these for g7, they are missing…https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509688840282308608/1446691233920454809/Screenshot_2025-12-05_213203.png?ex=6934e7b4&is=69339634&hm=d4f7d634534f938e376ee67c14969ff07a8ebb948028d868856b236b37e83bdc&

[spice edge]

That's a second rate speed crew, and a that's a weak T5 Relativity, a decent one should be pushing at least 200M. Arena is a mess, but 42 vs 42 is pretty good going for it. What arena favours is either huge spenders, or huge campers, and most normal people will get chomped up somewhere between those.

[shadow glacier]

I understand even that can be considered weak but consider the fact I joined a server thats still not ascended past g4 and is under 6 months old lol

the strongest ships on the server outside of arena are under 300m power NSEAs that the local whales have

[green forum]

Yeah the lag in this game. cant even show scoring correctly for area battle

[spice edge]

While I kindof get your point, and Q knows the Matchmaking in the game is heavily flawed, I can't really see a problem with it matching new servers against old, especially in early G4, there are people in my server, which is tow and a half, I think who join, and fly up the ops levels, ending up high and weak, and people who sit around G3 for years and end up at 42 stronger than most people under ops 46, and then there are the whales, who pretty much do whatever their credit card limit allows.

Obviously having an older server or an alliance with higher members has some advantages, but adding server age as a criteria to the match maker would just make it even worse.

[shadow glacier]

and while that is a second rate speed crew its literally the best I have with what ive been able to obtain in the time played ahha. cosmic recruit tokens have gone elsewhere that benefit me outside of the arena

[spice edge]

I thought that was your enemy's ship?

[shadow glacier]

ohhh yeah that is the enemies ship. I was faster than them, but I often match up against players who are much quicker

I thought I included my ship in the screenshot I forgot I cropped it

[spice edge]

If you want to do well at arena, get a max Kelvin, get Gul Dukat and crew from Transporter Patterns and Officer Depot and sit there for a long time, and you'll end up blowing that thing up with almost no damage.

If you want to go up ops fastish you're unfortunately not going to be able to do arena well unless you spend a lot.

[shadow glacier]

I can still score on bigger players but if even one of the players is faster thats it for my fastest ship. after that my entire fleet is gone before I can kill another hostile.

yeahhh im not opsing up any time soon from 42, im catching up on a lot

[spice edge]

Also, this won't help immediately, but if you can get a crew of your own alliance together of very similar ops levels and co-ordinate you'll do way better than randoms.

If they're fast and chasing you hit a hostile, it'll stop them and they'll have to retarget you or pick someone else.

Joining an armada then running around, then sending your ship back into the armada zone when it's under ten seconds will let you do the armada and take advantage of the inability to be attacked once the last ten seconds has been called.

Sticking an Omega 13 on a ship that's in an armada zone and about to be attacked with 16 or under seconds on the timer will have a similar effect.

Using a loot crew to get +100% loot will get you enough directives to do a centre armada from only one solo.

There are loads of weird little things you can learn that can give you an edge against stronger but less savvy players. And sometimes you're just completely outclassed, so let them win in 5 minutes and get on to the next one.

[shadow glacier]

appreciate the tips

[eager cosmos]

5 plays tonight with every match going up against 2 + players lvl63 or 64. I am lvl 59! How is the matchmaking fair or is it just throwing bones to players that pay more?

[past sleet]

MORE time for arenas. I personally only able to play it for a few hours. its the only event that only last 3rd of a day. unlike the whole day like most events

[meager nimbus]

If you're going to hold the event, please let the arena run for 24 hours. That's much better and easier, especially if you're working on Friday and then going to parties or something.

[dusk lotus]

Arena is 💩💩 from first day up to now! 🤢🤮

[red echo]

To encourage greater participation in arena, consider locking rating points. Many members of my alliance, including myself, no longer take part because we’re at 65k and worried about losing rating points.

[lilac lichen]

If this one simple change happens, I’ll start up again for sure. I’m in that boat. Besides the mirror stuff, everything you would want is tied to rank.

[lucid sonnet]

i was one of those ops42s months ago lol. it was more costly than it was worth using ... i think i had something like 15 full repairs before it drained me of trit. iirc it was 600B a go. or something like that. at ops42 thats your 3rd leg.

imo try to sting and smash a 1 rouond output against it, they wont be using it in a few weeks

[vast tulip]

I still have not done any since they came out they didn’t work at first and then I have forgotten about them is it worth doing like what are the rewards

[grand fjord]

Once you get a good team and get to understand the strategy needed to win - they are worth it. Just give yourself one or two Arenas to start enjoying. Faction store goodies are lovely and very much worth the effort. Kudos on Arena 💪

[vast tulip]

Looks like I need players to carry me through my ships and crew are garbage in pvp

[grand fjord]

What ops are you?
My team and I made a system - first few hours we each play with new people to get them going and then the three of us play for our points.
Maybe we can get you in the rotation.
Pm me.

[vast tulip]

I’m a level 50 but a weak level 50 I went from 43 to 50 in a few days so my research is very low

[lusty bane]

the arena sms is currently not scoring 🙁

[odd citrus]

Oh I just msged u in game asking that!

[odd citrus]

It eventually scored but the first couple didn’t

[cyan void]

can we have the option to not be forced into arenas, there are matchups where its obvious we arent winning so id rather grind something than to be pulled and wait for like 5-10mins

[cyan void]

also 70s with veng events shld go against each other NOT against people lower than them, isn't that common sense

[fickle niche]

if you are a new g6 or waited too long to participate in arenas, it's basically game over for you to progress in Terran faction store unless you spend and build massive ships to make yourself relevant in matches. Vengeance and soon g7 uncommons will dominate the scene and you cant do anything. There is a limit to using the farming technique and keep on losing to get the 400 emblems, but the emblems become useless without the rank progression. Arena is lopsided and getting worse day by day

[cyan void]

im done with the whole thing

🙂

[fickle niche]

same. except for the Mirror officers, all the relevant items are all maxed from the store.

[cyan void]

basically i think the best time to try and max arenas is mid g5

and then once u hit g6 matchmaking gets complete bonkers

esp upper g6

rare v rare is fine, they got qsd i dont ill just cry about it. rare against epic or veng? no thx 😂

[safe frost]

can be fun though, sadly it's rare to find fresh 70s

[cyan void]

i see 0 epics that are fresh out the oven

the only ones i see are t9-11 minimum

and unless i got qsd i aint killing those

[safe frost]

probably because there are less players on apac in general

[cyan void]

i only saw 1 with a fresh epic

and then never saw the guy again 😂

[dapper wave]

we almost won but still come on

[safe frost]

@cyan void had a double baby 70 match 🥳

That’s fun for sure

[leaden sable]

pairing is still not good

[cyan void]

that wouldve been fun

i actually like ppl who pair with those 70s thinking theyll get carried and then they lose instead 😂

[proven cosmos]

Enemy with 3x more Power as the my Team are Standard at the moment

[lethal tusk]

for god sake get the stability on pc under control..

[versed cipher]

G5 players should nog be matched against G6.
My arena squad has a range of 51-59. You cannot put us against an ops 63

there is no point in even trying to compete

[foggy meteor]

Three Times in a row against the same team...fix the matchmaking!!!! Not fun at all!!!!

[static marsh]

That makes arena unplayable

[velvet condor]

Well…

[meager nimbus]

Dont know what to say but Arena not working!!! You club never learn

[rocky crypt]

@muted badger Are you actually working on fixing issues for arenas? Lag, ship positioning have been issues for months and nothing seems to be done to solve them.

[warm nimbus]

And now we don’t have any event for arenas? We are moving in the wrong direction STFC. We need more not less.

[wraith turtle]

lol, great matchup! Keep up the good work Scopely, lol

[warm nimbus]

Win! I’m ops 62 and beat G7 players

[summer loom]

Many game freezes, restarts, frozen battles today in arenas. Bad experience for me and many others.

[weary storm]

Arena’s is an absolute dumpster fire. Ship tracking broken, extreme lag, ships just stop in transit for no reason. This needs to be fixed or arenas cancelled forever like flashpoint

[dense olive]

Scopely we just got paired up against the same squad we have zero chance against THREE TIMES IN A ROW. Please add logic to prevent this. It’s crushing.

[hazy basin]

hats off gentlemen, game is crashing more than a normal firday

[hazy basin]

Archived and points awarded

can't even see my fleet to repair after a restart

https://tenor.com/view/clap-clapping-austin-powers-gif-26345367

[icy sail]

Can we please get some kind of squad timeout instituted? There are so many players that start a squad then walk away, if they're a squad leader and haven't hit 'Ready' in 5min or something the squad should be disbanded.

[zealous tinsel]

having to go up against 2 vengeances is pure bs.

[somber moth]

Why does my normal arena SMS get replaced with the Veng? Cant I do both? … oh yea and make Arenas longer!! Cutting out at 8pm PST is bs. Thanks

[eager cosmos]

Arena was so glitched I had to restart constantly!!! Lost 2 matches because I missed the first two minutes of play and lag was insane on several matches. I have fiber internet so I know it was not on my end. As well the match making is insane!!! I Have access to 5 star rare ships and am being put up against epics and 6 star ships. I pick team mates at my level or lower and it makes no difference 2 wins out of 8 matches 2 lost to lag and the others we just sat until the time ran out because nothing could survive the maxed crews on maxed higher level ships.

Arenas could be great but so far they leave me feeling like I've been sitting at the DMV all day. So let's take over a political movement and Make Arenas Great I can't say again because they so far have never been good enough for a nostalgic sense of greatness.

[brazen oxide]

How do I participate in an event when the arena isn't available

[spice edge]

You don't, you have to do it when it's on... No idea why they leave it up for a whole day after Arena ends. Not like you can finish it while you're not there like some events.

[late rune]

I like arenas. Just doing enough to do daily pills. Usually win more than lose. My gripe is players not ready and those who have no clue about strategy

[median gale]

Dear scopely,
Please pick any other night off the week than Friday. I have a family and a social life and Friday is the worst possible choice

[pseudo grove]

enabling event dosen't solve real matching issue

[warm nimbus]

Wow this all day mining event is so captivating! We definitely don’t need a weekly PvP event today. (Insert sarcasm font)

[frosty cedar]

on the contrary, it directly contributes to fixing it. the event encourages participation, and lack of participation is the source for uneven matchups

[minor ice]

Reiterating these requests because they're still just as relevant as ever.
.
.
.
The Arena needs:

1. A rotating schedule that runs every SIX days, not every seven.

People have jobs and some of those jobs preclude playing on a particular day of the week. Let it rotate each week so that everyone gets a chance to participate, rather than being locked out of the entire Terran faction.
.
2. Shipyard-tier-based matchmaking (i.e. "Kelvin Bracket" for Ops levels 40-42, "Newton Bracket" for 43-46, "Enterprise-A Bracket" for 47-50, etc.).

This would ensure that research, officers, team coordination, and strategy/tactics are the primary factors in determining victory, not ops-gated massive numerical advantage. Note that spenders would still have an edge via Primes, FT/CT, higher officer tiers, etc.

When one player from the opposing team can smash your entire squad, regardless of how much research you've completed/FT&CT you've leveled/officers you've tiered (while they're using a speed crew, on top of everything else! 🤦‍♂️), it pretty much invalidates the entire match. You only see this when one side is woefully underpowered for their level...or the other team has access to higher-tier ships.
.
3. Rank floors. Once you reach the bottom of the next rank group (Silver, Gold, Platinum), you can't get demoted back to the previous group. You can be demoted within the group (from Gold 3 back down to Gold 4, for example, but you'd never get demoted from Gold 4 back to Silver 1).

Don't overly penalize players for participating in the system, or there won't be a system to participate in at all.
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4. An arena-specific chat. I mean...c'mon, this should've been part of the initial release, but how on earth did this not at least happen at the same time as public squads?

Thanks for coming to this week's TED Talk.

Sincerely, a player who has made out like an absolute BANDIT from the current Arena setup but still wants to see it accessible for everyone.

[cyan void]

<@&509690795536941056>

if u havnt seen it yet

[foggy heath]

Arenas are a snoozefest and will continue that way

[spice edge]

Where are all the complaints today?

[cyan void]

all i saw was vengences destroying arenas 😂

its kinda dumb they make vengeance event tied to arenas so all the g6 players just dont get fun anymore

[granite kelp]

Missmatching 100%

[obsidian cove]

Arena is unplayable. U guys need to separate tiers .. or at least G7 players into their own tier without ability to crossover . It's just loosing appeal when 500b ship is on field with g6 ships

[rocky crypt]

People are fed up with the lack of acknowledgement regarding issues. It's pointless to report anything since nothing will be done about arena's. It's been stale for months.

[odd bough]

I am done with arenas until they are fixed and all the rewards can be achieved ftp (and not limited to the top 10% paying (ftp can get it by riding on the biggest payers))

[rocky crypt]

One of many issues. Armada not respawning.

[thorn thicket]

Im playing fortnite instead

[shadow glacier]

this should never happen. improve matchmaking please (im ops 42, this player was 46 but ive seen higher lvl ships from ops 42s in here)

[full lagoon]

I’m playing ark instead.

[eager cosmos]

They will not fix it. Too many Whales lining their pockets. I just got wiped by a 6B Relativity I am level59... The other player was 61. This is beyond broken....

[slender stone]

Came out of arenas and got dialogue from every open mission. Had to reboot to get out of it.

[weary storm]

Arena is a broken mess! Ship tracking broken, extreme lag, match making still a disaster. Just toss this content in the bin

[eager cosmos]

i think you are correct this is a hot mess....

[copper notch]

This is the direct opposite, btw. Kelvin is obtained at 42, meaning the bracket should be 42-45, as 40 and 41 do not have access to the Kelvin

[minor ice]

Hrm. I see what you're saying, but it wasn't a typo.

People tend to camp at the levels where they've just unlocked a new ship, so better for them to be at the top of their bracket rather than the bottom.

[chrome turret]

arena event starts an hour after arenas opened... already did mine. # another scopely fail

[chrome lava]

Um...

[ocean hatch]

Glad to see arena is still comically unbalanced.

[warm nimbus]

It is possible to win with skill and teamwork. I’d rather work on getting better than editing photos to highlight my own futility.

[past sleet]

MORE Arena TIME 8 hours IS NOT ENOUGH TIME

better matching

[wide pelican]

<@&509690795536941056> super extreme arena lag on 701

[dense olive]

Lag is godawful tonight

[full lagoon]

I can literally click attack. And watch the enemy fly away, while my ship sits there. Repeat process. Enemy has killed 10 surveys. My ship still won’t engage. Arenas are ruined.

[normal ibex]

In getting matched against ppl 300mil stronger than me well my team has ppl under 50mil

[spice edge]

Outplaying a Plat 1 that much stronger, nice work.

[shadow glacier]

balance matchmaking please. im in a 6 month old server at ops 42 my strongest ship is 50 million I shouldnt be facing people with 250-500 million power ships that players ops 42-46 have

[spice edge]

You can join squads with those people too though.

Make friends with a Plat 1 46 ops, and just game it.

[shadow glacier]

its not often and im usually kicked. ive actually got really good strategies for the arena but the problem is people just have faster and stronger ships. equal power to power ive got superior strats, but it doesnt matter most of the time

[spice edge]

You're in the right place, everyone knows the matchmaking is terrible, but people who know what they're doing will use that to their advantage. Say what region you're in someone will be interested. Getting a low ranking person at the bottom of your possible ops bracket to start makes it more likely you won't get impossible matches.

It's gaming the system, but the system isn't good enough not to game.

[shadow glacier]

talking about LFGing in here? didnt think of that but I dont see any channel for LFG otherwise I would probably actually use it

an in-game friends list feature would be pretty freakin great honestly. for people you meet in arena from other servers... once your DM history disappears you can basically never message them again

[spice edge]

I'd say it's worth it, I'm Europe Plat 1, ops 47, if my Alliance isn't having an around day an Ops 43 who knew what they were doing would be a great squad leader.

Less likely to get a load of G5s as enemies.

[shadow glacier]

so does anyone know what loads the matchmaking the most? ops lvl average? power?

[spice edge]

No idea of the details, but it having the lowest ops person in your group start seems to help, and having them low ranked doesn't seem bad.

[shadow glacier]

well appreciate the tips. ill try grinding through it but yeah i think it would be pretty fair for there to be some adjustments..

[spice edge]

I agree, matchmaking is unfair.

But you've got to try to go with how it is.

And try to be the strongest person in your ops for the region, that helps.

Can't always make it, but definitely helps to be in top ten.

My other top tip would be get your alliance in it.

Public group can work, but if you can get a regular team of your own alliance you know and are used to....

[shadow glacier]

yeah issue is our server is 6 months old, were all pretty behind on stuff in comparison

[spice edge]

You just work together without evening needing to talk. In this screenshot we're so in sync we both started armadas at the same time.

[shadow glacier]

does that not cancel one of them out?

[spice edge]

I've had it cancel both, and give points for both, oddly. The point is you get so in sync you're pretty much operating as a unit.

The actual winning armada already started the 10 second countdown at the top, this is just backup.

[shadow glacier]

im usually using loot crews and impulse speed to rush the middle ones. one match we finished before the 5 minute mark and i had done 2 of the big armadas

[spice edge]

Yep, that's how to do it.

Typically I use a PvP ship and an armada ship.

One kills all enemies, one kills an enemy, then does a solo, then does a group.

You've got the strategy.

Get a couple of members of your alliance who all know what to do and you can beat a lot of enemies.

[shadow glacier]

well appreciate it, just sucks potentially dropping a rank and getting worse daily pulls of the arena claim. with everything said ive managed to luck out a bit but the arena feels like gambling sometimes. really high highs and really low lows

[spice edge]

What rank are you now?

[shadow glacier]

gold 4, bout halfway to gold 3

[spice edge]

Not bad.

[shadow glacier]

ive had to grind for hours trying super hard for it lmao

[spice edge]

Remember though, if you're triple pulling every day at Silver you're beating someone who's single pulling at Gold.

Found you, 57M power, not bad for 42.

[shadow glacier]

for some reason it went from 62 to 57

[spice edge]

Depends on what ships you have out, if you put them all on surveys you drop a lot.

[spice edge]

If you're reading that already you're probably going to be Plat 1 soon.

When I started arena my goal was just triple pull every day however much I lost.

Turned out didn't even need to lose much.

[shadow glacier]

appreciate the advice

[spice edge]

If you were in Euro I'd help, but best I can do is wish you good luck.

[spice fjord]

Just lost a match because a rare I joined didn't allow my ship to fight it. Nice stuff guys. Goes great with your $400 FC slot

[gusty estuary]

Pvp is always unfun on average. Losing is no fun and even winning can feel stressful.

[fickle niche]

<@&509690795536941056> APAC Arena is on but no "Fist of Empire" SMS event

[fickle niche]

pretty sure the Fist of Empire SMS will go live when Arenas start in EU or US

[short crater]

Matchmaking is still so bad its insane

[velvet condor]

Why are we planning against a G7 player we don’t have G7 yet on our server

[silk tapir]

After few months of brake, testing again, and nope xD

[tame root]

Sigh

Ship selection vanishing in the middle of an arena, and after 2 app resets they still not back.

Fix these infernal bugs, as it’s literally every single week that either one long lasting arena bug or another is pestering that event <@&509690795536941056>

[winged sand]

<@&509690795536941056> sort arena out shiups wont enter

cant even just undock them

its like my base did not enter the arena but i can see the arena

[hollow thunder]

The matchmaking is once again abysmal. How is the best player on a team with the strongest ship worth 180 billion supposed to compete against a minimum of 500 billion Vengeance+? I would like to hear an explanation of the criteria used to match players and how the criteria are weighted. <@&509690795536941056>

[frosty cedar]

I'm not blaming the algorithm, because arena only just started and hardly anyone's participating. I just thought this was hilarious. never even seen a 74 before

[visual parrot]

Hilarious, but also quite sad.
Arena could have been a great game mode if it wasn’t for bad design, constant crashes and stfc pretty much giving up on it from the beginning.

[frosty cedar]

almost had him though

[visual parrot]

Skills vs $$$kill$$$ 😂

[tepid atlas]

How does scopely go about match making? Cause your algorithms suck tbh. How you gunna pit low silvers against elite gold? Or lvl59 vs lvl 71

One of the biggest disappointments is the arena...

[frosty cedar]

why is it that Fist of the Empire doesn't launch until an hour after arenas start?

[visual parrot]

The answer to your question, as with most issues in STFC, lies somewhere between intentional misalignment and gross incompetence

[spice fjord]

It's been a few weeks but that time is upon us!

Quit button! Stop making us waste a full match against an opponent we can't beat

[small dragon]

Scoopely needs to reduce the spread from 8 levels down to 2 or 3 levels... There balance needs more balance....

[sturdy seal]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-gif-9650603

[past sleet]

Yea thats worse than mine. Like Wtf if we cant have a lvl 50 then we shouldnt match with them. plus how would we even be able to kill them

I understand being able to punch up but not in this way

[soft thicket]

How about matching people based on their spending? Fools and money soon departed.

You’d make more profit.

[next schooner]

Last time I say this in 2025...putting it politely...naw on arenas....

[cold fiber]

Please tell me how it’s fair pairing a 60, a 62, and a 65 against two 66’s and a 62? 😭

I’m not the BEST at math… but that math ain’t mathin’!

https://tenor.com/view/maths-gif-24525141

ScopelyMath™ strikes again!

[fickle niche]

<@&509690795536941056> <@&509690975057215489> thank you for starting the Fist of Empire SMS on APAC servers 24 hours later 😍

[tepid atlas]

Like how can any 59 compete with that?

Elite gold league too

G6 should remain g6 and g5 to g5

Wouldn't ya think?

Smh

[vivid jay]

Looks like it would be kind of hard to defeat something that big, a strong ship with a very upgraded leveled up strong crew can probably take out something that big. It's all about crew. That's what makes this ship strong

[torpid talon]

Arena matching is garbage. I'm not taking another "Fist of the empire"..... From Scopely. I'll boycott the event and encourage others to do so as well.

[warm nimbus]

Teamwork and skill go a long way in arenas.

I have many more screenshots. There are a couple discord channels dedicated to arenas if anyone is interested in progression, collaboration and having a good time.

[warm nimbus]

Battleships are the worst ships for PvP for a couple reasons. Primarily because the battleship strike team is by far the worst. Secondly, battleships have small shields comparatively and shields are far more important in PvP than hull.

[lucid sonnet]

you

[cedar comet]

Arenas should run every 6 days. It would make it so people that cant make Arenas on specific days able to be more active in them and a set schedule would make it so you could load up and plan around absences if specific days of the week dont work for you

[cyan void]

unfortunately bst is prob 2nd if not 3rd best by far outperforming est

[broken bridge]

Its really hard to take your words seriously since there is so much stuff wrong with the picture it self

[strange mirage]

Harrrd disagree on the worst ST. Explorer is far worse than both of the other 2

[worldly hinge]

agreed (ignore the tiny cube this was a few months ago and didnt have any bd on it 🙈)

est is so 💩

[cyan void]

ive killed so many est ents with my velox too, and the est was built to counter IST 🤣

[lucid sonnet]

if that ent had the slipstream on (or that new pvp only one) and the rounds it took for your win were 5 or more, the ent might of beat your cube ... is not actually a bad result tbh

[worldly hinge]

it didnt' have slippers iirc but yeah est needs slippers to function and even then it sucks

[sturdy seal]

Why not just keep arenas active always like the wave systems. The rewards aren't all that and they take forever to collect, should be more about fun, testing crews, teamwork, making friends, having FUN, yes I know that is something scopely forgets the game is supposed to be but just keep them always active like waves. Why even bother having it be a one day event? That would also solve the bad matchups cause people would know we have every day to lose again! HAHAHA. Nobody opens tickets about wave issues hardly ever and nobody would open arena tickets if they were 24/7. Yes the matchups might not be as busy but waves aren't either yet we manage to do them. Idk, just makes more sense to have them 24/7. I dont' even need them but it would be a fun option for people to have when times are slow like waves.

[bright pelican]

You'd never get any matches if they were always open

[fickle niche]

remove the region limitations and there will be at least 100 players from total global population in the match making pool any given time. keep the SMS tied to specific time, but the arena sandbox open full time.

[low socket]

The servers wouldn’t be able to handle that level of stress, and the game would collapse.

[safe frost]

if it had qsd your shields wouldn't be depleted

[winged sand]

thats so even...

[young terrace]

Arenas not working at all for me. Shows as joined, arena starts with no option for me to enter. I haven't attempted arenas for months because this kept happening

[languid geode]

Arena is a joke with this pairings, Limit the Playerlevel to the starter lvl, to make some fair fights everything else is just ...💩

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[glass siren]

Así da gusto jugar, con emparejamientos equilibrados que no te dan opción a poder ganar de ninguna manera 🤣

[winged sand]

I am so sick of restarting the game 20 times + in a match because my ships are stuck warping 00s
<@&509690795536941056> no more new content, its about time the current content was fixed

[fleet steeple]

Another week, another week where I'm playing players outside my recruiting bracket, bugs messing me up & getting me killed, and me playing 3v1's because some players literally just gave up before the game begins. This is literally the worst PvP game/mode I have played in history...

Will STFC even fix this mode? No. It's like why even bother at this point. A few grade 4 crystal? The only mode where you can improve and actually get punished for improving.

[wheat drum]

Retire Arenas. They suck.

[exotic grove]

<@&509690795536941056>

The matching is ridiculous still.. 71's and 72's should be in their own bracket. How the heck is a 66 or 67 supposed to compete with a maxed cube or maxed Vengeance? Get a grip this is enough to make me stop spending on your game entirely.

[exotic grove]

Nothing about arenas is even. It should be paired based on player level and ship size. When a 72 with maxed g6 epic and max cube joins against a level 67, it's not even worth trying.

They should just do away with the whole thing because they can't seem to manage it even after all this time. Poor management poor development, just all around garbage that's not worth participating in.

[bold moss]

Give me a break! How is an ops 60 supposed to beat a 70?

[minor lark]

Great matchmaking. 😑

[exotic grove]

Scopely doesn't get it... They bungle everything and never listen to their players.. The very players that pay their wages.. How long until they bungle themselves right out of their jobs..

[spice fjord]

Quit button!! My weekly visit hating on how you love to waste time with unwinnable matches.

[past sleet]

1, arena CHAT please
2, better matching
3 Longer arena timer per friday

[eager cosmos]

What the heck!!!! This needs to be fixed!

[lilac lichen]

What is he super deep in sigma repairs on that thing? But arenas is free repair!

[eager cosmos]

And the next match

[worldly dome]

Match balancing is in serious need of work. Increase the pay-out percentage to reflect the power differences of each team. Or create a space in the galaxy solo/group waves in which there can be waves of invaders with a focus on doing as many outpost in a system

[rigid void]

If matches aren't finished, why would the SMS end. Extend the SMS to allow it to score for Arena matches that are still in progress when the event ends <@&509690795536941056>

[lucid sonnet]

because scopely to 'dumbo the magnificent' to realise that they should stop match joining/starting 30 minutes before event end to reduce the chance of live matches ending after event close. most games do this. scopely have no understanding of game design or basic time keeping. all they know about is money and charts (2026 isnt looking like a good year for them).

[void crescent]

Can you PLEASE turn off the Portal prompt for Arenas, can't use it anyway and it just causes LAG!

[eager cosmos]

Looks like 2 vs 3. Then the match starts and there is a level 69 in there.

[cyan void]

a 69 can't join that team tho

[blazing otter]

10 waves in single 24 hour SMS that is not heroic is a bit strong. That's several hours on a work night.

[inner plover]

uh that's finishing one complete wave?

also, wrong section

[surreal wave]

Yeah good luck with that. Not like that has been mentioned a million and one times befo---

Oh wait...

The money always comes first. Fixing things doesn't generate the money they want (or rather, they THINK it wouldn't. Tbh people would probably become even MORE invested if they did, because it would at least LOOK like they care enough about the game and its players. But God forbid they do the smart thing instead of the greedy thing)

[lapis mirage]

There should be Solo Arena, where you fight hostiles

[sage shuttle]

They're called solo waves 😀

[lapis mirage]

No, they are totally different 😄

[patent slate]

Rank needs to lock at Silver, Gold, Platinum or have store items available based on reputation. Until arena matches fair & equitable, players should not be penalized by poor game mechanics.

[rough plume]

They should scrap arena v1; create a v2; where you enter it like the veil, call it the Arena. Inside, have clusters of systems like the wave systems. click an open system and create a match. Team 1 vs Team 2. be able to join either team; and based off OP; their shipyard level bracket; ie 5G rare, 6G unc, etc. Running 24x7 for anyone to join. Remove the negative rank or redo the favors to remove some of the more common from rank requirement.

[crystal condor]

Arena suck there's your feed back

[timid parcel]

Introduce some hard barriers to matchmaking like g4 won't face g5, faction ships ops unlock being bottom of bracket. Or just get rid of it altogether

Or at least make it quicker so I'm not spending 15 mins getting into a match to watch the opponent play alone because the matchmaking made it unwinnable

[lapis axle]

Please please for the love of god stop putting arena on FRIDAYS!!! People got stuff to do

It makes 0 sense to move it here

[strong mortar]

whats the need for the 30 sec screen when an arena ends? should be a button to ok and dismiss that screen...

[mighty turret]

Suggestion: If you start a public arena squad and two other people join and press ready, if after 5 minutes you haven't either removed someone from the squad or pressed ready yourself then your account should be deleted.

[leaden sable]

This is nearly sensless event as paring is after thta long time still not working. Open for 60 to 68 and a 70 comes in. You should replace the programmer. And then to be so presumptuous as to sell it as a good event.

[wheat drum]

Retire arenas, they suck

[zealous tinsel]

I love the arena. don't retire the arena. Parts of it do suck tho. Like this one... When you can only have 2 ships and 1 gets stuck in warp the other dies. I get a lil angry when i am forced to use an insta that i pay for.

[past sleet]

BACK for another episode of Arena Matching doesnt work LOOOK bottom line is if you are level 40 and the game says look you can not have players higher or lower than 40-45 then they shouldnt be matched with level 46 player. Yeah i might be able to beat a level 46 ship outside of arena when they dont focus PVP like we do for arena. BUT no matter how good your crewing is you will not win a 41ops maxed player VS a 46ops player all geared for PVP

FIX YOUR MATCHING for arena and allow more time for the event 8 hours is not enough time - PLEASE🙏

[drowsy breach]

can we be allowed to chat?

[past sleet]

^^^^ that also

[summer loom]

lag, stuck help button, frozen battles that's never end... THATS ARENAS FOR YOU

[pastel skiff]

lag is unbelievable

can;t attack ANYTHING. Been trying for two minutes and the ships just stop

completyely broken cant move cant attack

[karmic jay]

How is this balanced

Very interested to see how the pairing works

[hasty kraken]

That is one of more balance u get. 50 vs 51, 47 vs 48, 46 vs 44.
Yes ops isnt the only thing but this is nothing compared to there isnt even the 60s vs 70s matchup or 50s vs 60s matchup that one might get

[fiery pecan]

I swear tg, I'm the most supportive stfc guy. Everyone else whines, and I find the logic in your decision making. But arena? you guys seriously need to revisit arena. It's not gd hard. All you need to do...

1. If you lose a bunch in a row, you get EASIER matchups, not top-ranked dudes with max-power ships/crews
2. If you defeat a team with much higher power/rank than you, get more bonus points, helping you rank up faster

whay is even the point for having rankings? I'm low rank in arenas and ALWAYS go up against mega-super-platinum, or whever the top rank is, I WOULDN"T KNOW b/c nothing I do can help me get out of silver

[cunning tendon]

How arena’s aren’t matched by shipyard level is completely dumb to me. Jumped in one after taking a few months off and problems are still as bad as they were at launch. Let alone no way to communicate with public arenas, its another dead mechanic because the devs are too stubborn to adjust

[cyan void]

need to bring back the days where impulse wasn't capped. it's so much harder to win against mega whales that can 1 tap you even with all the buffs n debuffs known to mankind now compared to when it was first released with the impulse not capped

[spice fjord]

Quuuuiiiiitttttt buuuttttooonnnn

[glossy cobalt]

Not a win but ill take it

[sullen crane]

Arena was lagging horrible as usual, and my screen would freeze up with ships that were no longer there. It was a miserable experience, as usual with terrible, off-balanced pairings.

[sterile bone]

I'm just saying, "We hear your feedback." What they listen to all day long is ABBA's song "Money, Money, Money."

[lapis axle]

What are you feeding your Ent????

[glossy cobalt]

Qss adds huge boost to ship dpr and power. Im up to date with research and everything else ship power related.

[lapis axle]

Damn. Ok i see you

[glossy cobalt]

Its not even that strong im still working on artifacts and a few more researches i got left. End result may be 5b hopefully🤞

[warm nimbus]

Another lame Monday devoid of engaging events. Sure wish there was a PvP event today especially since I plan to enjoy the weekend like 90% of all other Americans rather than playing a mobile game.

[gloomy rover]

You forgetting this is an international game

[warm nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/idiots-idiot-no-intelligent-life-buzz-lightyear-toy-story-gif-17788133

Right. I forgot the rest of the world stays home on Friday nights.

[cyan void]

same problem every week. leader starts, goes afk. these squads shld dissolve if leader has no activity after 5mins or 10mins max

[bitter shale]

Match making at its finest. I don't know how you expect us to compete like this

[dapper wave]

what

[timid parcel]

Please for the love of the game give us another sourcing for terran stuff. This is trash.

[timid parcel]

At least give us a surrender button to save everybody's time.

[spice edge]

When are we getting Arena Chat so we can stop spamming alliance/actually talk to randoms?

[spice edge]

Sorry about that one.

[timid parcel]

No worries. A fine performance, shame you had nobody to give you a challenge

[strong mortar]

if someone leaves arena team it should drop the "ready" status from those left

[proven cosmos]

Nice challenge

[hybrid idol]

Just wanted to post the same ☝️👏

[wild quiver]

25+25+25=64
The points don't add up correctly. Starting Armadas takes additional hostile kills.

[spice edge]

Are you sure that's not 32+32?

With G4 and Syndicate 47 you get 28% loot bonus. 25*1.28=32.

[wild quiver]

Syndicate 40, sometimes I get 32, sometimes killing a hostile gets me none. The count is all over the place.

[fleet steeple]

After 2 weeks away, came back to bugs and glitches like one where a player was just about cloaked so I couldn't see him when he was targeting me. And the same ole' fighting players 7 ops higher though I can't recruit anyone 7 ops higher. So with the update, still no patches to fix this busted mode... But I should play it for 1,000 G4 crystal. No officer shards. No nothing.

Being in armadas just for it not to start and I get blown up because of it. Getting the same opponent 4x. Getting to a hostile before the player gets to me but I still get sucked into a PvP cause reasons. Will this mode ever get any kind of re-vamp? This is tedious man.

[wild quiver]

🤡

[spice edge]

Hmm, what ships and crew are you using? I'm pretty used to Scopely having bugs, but so far I haven't had one where the loot for these is off.

[broken bridge]

comeon i was gentle 🙂

[safe frost]

none could be hostile limit

[snow raven]

We have lost. I am ops 67 😂🙈

[weary storm]

Ship tracking still broken in Arenas.

[lilac lichen]

#freetheterranfactionstore

[pastel skiff]

every time I leave an arena my notifications are messed up. For example, each time ALL my missions are marked as "new". All 47. The alerts (red) that I have are all wrong

[worldly rapids]

very buggy experience with the PC app tonight entering / exiting arenas

Also just had a match where I couldn't move my ships. Kept getting a "subspace interference" error. I could start armadas, but would get that pop up error every time I tried to go to the armada. And couldn't get there. Even after a restart

[visual parrot]

I know him

[eager cosmos]

I've quit arenas until matchmaking is fixed.

Every week same issues and nobody is fixing anything! Just more sloppy content dumps.

[night stone]

Add a button to surrender in arenas. The match making is so bad most of the time it’s a waste of time to even come out of your docks.

[zealous tinsel]

@muted badger
this is new and i do not like it you prolly can't tell but directly beneath the 4 in that upper solo there is a 129b krensha that i cannnnnot see untill it kills me

[spice fjord]

Another week saying

Quuuuiiiiitttttt buuuttttooonnnn

Either mismatched against bigger ops players I can't scrape or dumped against lower ops and power whales I also can't scrape. It is t fun wasting what little time I have to arena in matches I can't actually do anything in.

[night stone]

Yup, I agree a forfeit button!

[zealous tinsel]

how is that not a problem

[spice fjord]

Great I have 20 more minutes to play and jammed against a 67 with ab 18b Velox that clearly bought plenty. I can't stand you Scopely

And then more low ops whale types

[red wave]

Ending the Fist of the Empire event right at he end of arenas is a misstep. If you allow a match to begin, the points should register for the SMS. The Vengeance arena event ends one hour after arenas for this reason. The Fist event used to end something like 8-12 hours after arenas ended before it was adjusted a few weeks ago. This needs to be fixed to at minimum an hour after arenas end.

[glossy cobalt]

Im sure mid power 70 u can manage as i seen you around on stfc.wtf and probably have a really beefy ship. But yea i got put into 70s and their wasnt much i could do.

[strong mortar]

remove the cap on mirror dust from arena faction store... not really sure why ill do arenas now ive ran out of this pull 😢

[cerulean walrus]

TERRIBLE!!!! How is a level 59 with ships ranging from 500M-1.5B a match to a level 63 with ships over 3B?

[strong mortar]

crews...

[safe frost]

and research 👻

[bitter nebula]

Armadas are how to win arenas. Pvp is secondary

[broken star]

Amazing how many people don’t understand that

[glossy cobalt]

Good luck if you keep getting killed. I say its 50 50

[rapid badger]

Nothing will change until y'all do what I do. Just refuse to play this train wreck of an event.

[strange mirage]

And tactics 😋

[glossy cobalt]

Its manageable even with the bugs. Your issue is probably not being very powerfull pvp wise and getting wrecked by higher ops players. This is what I've come to realise.

[strange mirage]

And/or just sending ships in to fight the opposing team rather than being sneaky with tactics like dipping in and out of armadas etc.
Wayyyy too many people I've seen just give up and rage when they can't kill the other's ships or they see someone higher ops than them

[glossy cobalt]

Yes exactly, I've encountered teams that were weaker but they used very good tactics like speed crew,gs31 to keep running away and doing armadas. Where's i focus on pure pvp i cant catch them. Of course you need to know whats possible like if i encounter an ops70 like i did a few times last week. Theirs not much i can do to them. But overall with all its bugs arenas are very fun!

[strange mirage]

Welllllll.......fun when it doesn't lag anyway 😅😅😅

[glossy cobalt]

Yea i guess it depends how many people are doing it, overwhelming the server.

[exotic grove]

Not when the mismatched whales kill all the ships on your team. No way to even get an armada off. The matching system is VERY BROKEN.

[exotic grove]

I just refuse to spend money on their broken game.

[bitter nebula]

Im o68. I match vs 70s and epics. You can still win with teamwork and armadas

[exotic grove]

I don't even bother when 72's and 73's with maxed Vengeance or maxed g6 epics show up.. The whole event is pointless mismatched garbage.

[glossy cobalt]

Got a 67 on my server running around with max 33b velox spanking 70s so yea i agree you can still win. Im only running a 24b relativity with qss in arenas at 63 and i can take on anyone below a 70. Sure I still run into a lot of players whos g6 rare are hard but with a good team its still winnable.

[rapid badger]

That has nothing to do with why I don't play it. I can take just about anyone within a couple levels of myself, but when you get matched against people in the uper 60's for ops, there is nothing I can do. Even if the matches were even, I just don't have time to participate in arenas since I don't like them that much anyway and there is already too many other things to keep up with in the game.

[glossy cobalt]

Just out of curiosity can you show me a screenshot of your best ship. The facing 6 ops higher players i can understand, not many can punch so high. It takes planning and a lot of grinding and playing smart to do so. In your case being a 61 is at the bottom of the food chain. Your g5 epics cant kill a decent rare 66 unless you have the right tools for it. Arenas are mostly for pvp players and not casual ones.

[rapid badger]

My Enty is actually a little stronger but the crew for it makes it worse for PvP. I am a free player so do the best I can but the Rot does pretty well against most opponents even at a slightly higher weight class. Still trying to unlock the tantalus from the Augment faction. That might help. Not sure if it is better than the red matter. Also, while my Cardassians are T5, Billups is only T2 and most of my below deck crew is only tier 2 except for T5 Wok Joachim. I think tiering up Billups would help immensely.

Still, none of this really changes that I basically despise both the Arena and Waves. I do the waves for the battle pass and events only. I know the rewards for both are good but just can't take the time for them.

[bitter nebula]

Time crystal is the pvp FT for rot, since its a klingon ship. Red Matter is Federation.

And the Tantulus Field would be better than either of these.

[glossy cobalt]

Roti is better in pvp than enterprise and ist crew is the best pvp. Tantalus field is 2nd best ft after quantum slipstream. Red matter is still very good. I'd say its 3rd best as the other 2 faction only fts 3rd ability works only if you attack while cloaking and that doesn't work in arena. But yea you are pretty low on power so i understand your frustration. Tier up who ever needs the least amount of shards to do so. Rare officer like icheb,tuvok are very good in pvp on below deck. Id suggest you to stay away from arenas.

[rapid badger]

Lol, I suggest me to stay away from arenas also. And yeah, I forgot about the 3 Epic FT's being faction specific. Need to fix that. I don't have the Tantalus or Quantum Slipstream yet, and will be a while. One to 2 shards a day from the Augment faction store is a slow drip.

[glossy cobalt]

Yea their are some insanely strong players. Tantalus and qss is really hard to get but at least theirs a free way of getting it.

[fickle niche]

<@&509690795536941056> I had to sit for an hour and half to queue and ready 12 times and get through 12 loss matches of Arenas just to complete the Fist Of Empire SMS. The current G6 Arenas in ops65+ bracket is literally a pageant show for USS Vengeances and nothing else. The mechanic is now simply and purely a way to cater and pamper the whales with massive Vengeances and the rest of just have to sit there through 2 hours of agony every Friday to finish the SMS. With this rate there wont be any meat left to slaughter for the whales as more and more players are giving up on arenas and the game as well. it's not PvP in anyway but a pandering event for the 1%. Do better.

[torn salmon]

matchmaking was pretty good until this happened.... what am i expected to do lol

[leaden sable]

still arena matching is really bad

[agile forum]

this arena armada looks odd to me 😄

[twilit geode]

I cannot get list of members of my team 😱

The lag is strong today.

[winged sand]

This lag is pathetic. FIX THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!