No, you probably should put in in the valyria mod, in the character_interactions folder
#AGOT - Colonizable Valyria
grand dust
Alright
narrow wave
The Dots 😭😭😭
grand dust
The Dots 😭😭😭
Didn't you fix those by now ?
grand dust
THOSE ACCURSED DOTS !
fluid saffron
You know, if it gets me the whole region sooner...
rigid radish
I'm not sure how to take that thumbs up Maksi, is it like a K on facebook a bit of "we heard you now stay silent" or is it more like thumbs up from dad when you doing something good 😅
silent pike
@fluid saffron plz help this man
silent pike
narrow wave
I'm not sure how to take that thumbs up Maksi, is it like a K on facebook a bit ...
Its like help would be amazing
Pretty original meaning for thumbs up
fluid saffron
I am a little bit mercurial, I am also writing a book on immaterial matter and the unity of metaphysics, so during the week I can be semi-slow to respond to things.
But I am happy enough to help with code, just don't try and get me to do anything related to localisation or graphics.
silent pike
fluid saffron
As I said, I did work out while half sleeping last night a way to do Roman style legions based on dynamic titles hopefully the way governor armies work...
Restored Valyrian Freehold as administrative Empire anyone?
silent pike
Got dayuuuum 
fluid saffron
Create your own dragonlord families with their own estates...
rigid radish
So since you two now are working together and i'm somewhat respondable for that, i'll assume that the entire map of Essos is done by the end of the week 
grand dust
As I said, I did work out while half sleeping last night a way to do Roman style...
There's was a mod for ck2 agot that was called dragon of the east that used retinues as an imperial army
grand dust
Restored Valyrian Freehold as administrative Empire anyone?
I already brainstormed some ideas for it.
silent pike
So since you two now are working together and i'm somewhat respondable for that,...
Stop the cap LOL
fluid saffron
Yeah, in CKII, I wrote a mechanism to dynamically create puppeted mercenary companies as standing armies
and then control the composition
rigid radish
Stop the cap LOL
You know i gotta try 
silent pike
You know i gotta try <a:LAUGHINGCAT:970203418629120090>
Fr
fluid saffron
One of the more fun things I wrote for CKII was a dynamic choose your own adventure become a wizard lifesyle mod
it abused scripted localisation to make the entire quest chain have shifting stories
silent pike
You never know bro , next thing we know these guys have this done before roads of power comes out so 
rigid radish
I already know now, i'll most likely start playing 40 k on monday and stop that game whenever i get the ping about this mod 👐
fluid saffron
I did then write an implementation of DND 3.5e core rules for CKII as well
grand dust
Restored Valyrian Freehold as administrative Empire anyone?
So my idea was a stronger more invulnerable emperor since no one defied the dragonlords.
Dragonlords get a big bonus to influece.
Also some of the hostile schemes against them are disabled since no one screws around with them ( other dragonlords can do those schemes if there's other dragonlords in the empire )
Also, colony administrative type for kingdoms. To give more unique flavor.
Also, inheritance. Only the children of the emperor can inherit ( that or other dragonlords, but ONLY dragonlords. It is valyria after all )
fluid saffron
So the Freehold was much less an empire and more a High Republic.
And Roads to Power lets us have a lot of fun with this.
silent pike
So the Freehold was much less an empire and more a High Republic.
Kinda sorta
rigid radish
But we all want, no we need something to hold on to before the road of power 
fluid saffron
I am thinking almost Crassus Pompei and Caesar.
rigid radish
i honestly have no idea when roads of power is out
fluid saffron
on the 24th.
silent pike
i honestly have no idea when roads of power is out
Two weeks
grand dust
So the Freehold was much less an empire and more a High Republic.
But we're not restoring the freehold.
Were building an empire where we're the only dragonlords ( at least, it's what I'm doing )
So a custom valyrian administrative government can be split into two.
Valyrian administrative empire
And valyrian administrative republic ( or freehold or smth )
silent pike
Incoming real fast tbh
rigid radish
Oh right, that's not so baaaad. i thought it was months from now
grand dust
i honestly have no idea when roads of power is out
24th this moth
silent pike
Oh right, that's not so baaaad. i thought it was months from now <a:LAUGHINGCAT:...
Nah dude we in there like swimwear
fluid saffron
But we're not restoring the freehold.
Were building an empire where we're the on...
So my idea is more in restoring Valyria, you split your family into the dragon lords so to speak.
Make a new freehold from your loins!
😄
fluid saffron
Make something much more Byzantine.
grand dust
So my idea is more in restoring Valyria, you split your family into the dragon l...
My idea is to be the only ones with access to dragons. And as such have a sole monoply on power
rigid radish
i was thinking like fuck now i get to play 40k then i'm going to play this for a bit again before the new dragon age and then i'll most likely play that until vampire bloodline and then somewhat around there, the roads to power would come before kingdom come 2 😅 but only 2 week, bah, i can wait for that
waited 3 months for my girl, i can wait 2 weeks for a great mod
grand dust
i was thinking like fuck now i get to play 40k then i'm going to play this for a...
Couldn't finish inquisition for the life of me.
Bloodlines 2 seems bad.
Speaking of 40k, did you play rogue trader ?
fluid saffron
By the very nature of the size of the full landmass, one family holding absolute power is not going to work well.
grand dust
By the very nature of the size of the full landmass, one family holding absolute...
It is when they have dragons 
fluid saffron
That is something that people forget, feudal systems don't tend to govern beyond a particular size.
grand dust
That is something that people forget, feudal systems don't tend to govern beyond...
But this ain't a feudal system, it's an administrative one
fluid saffron
But dragons are fickle, and blood and fire are unstable building blocks.
So an administrative dictatorship is actually quite hard to manage without the tools of the modern state.
rigid radish
Couldn't finish inquisition for the life of me.
Bloodlines 2 seems bad.
Speaking...
I liked the inquisition but not as much as the first one and they plan on going back to their roots. vampire mascorate bloodline 2 seems fire 👐 and no, didn't play rogue trader, didn't really get hyped for it 😅
grand dust
But dragons are fickle, and blood and fire are unstable building blocks.
Dragons are what will hold it together.
They built the freehold, they can build an empire.
silent pike
Dragons are what will hold it together.
They built the freehold, they can build ...
I like THAT
fluid saffron
In human history, a totalizing dictatorship was not really possible until we developed the central tool of administration, the printing press.
grand dust
Dragons are what will hold it together.
They built the freehold, they can build ...
Like, no one, EVER, challenged a dragonlord and lived.
serene breach
I liked the inquisition but not as much as the first one and they plan on going ...
bloodlines 2 looks like a train wreck approaching in slow motion 😭
fluid saffron
Yes, but when you start democratizing that power to use it more effectively, you also lose power.
silent pike
Valyrians tool of administration where dragons 
rigid radish
bloodlines 2 looks like a train wreck approaching in slow motion 😭
What? noooooooo 
fluid saffron
There in is the Byzantine problem.
grand dust
In human history, a totalizing dictatorship was not really possible until we dev...
Which is why, outside kf valyria, volantis lys tyrosh and the others will have access to a special administration type called colony.
fluid saffron
So Valyria itself is actually very big and difficult to manage.
grand dust
Which is why, outside kf valyria, volantis lys tyrosh and the others will have a...
Only for kingdom level titles.
grand dust
So Valyria itself is actually very big and difficult to manage.
Not as big after it blew up
YOU SEE JAEHAERYS ? LESS LAND LESS PROBLEM !
narrow wave
I think it should be less centrally governed, remember there were 40 families sharing their power
grand dust
The idea being, no autonomy for valyria, but large autonomy for the free cities
narrow wave
We will see how roads to power will turn out to be
grand dust
I think it should be less centrally governed, remember there were 40 families sh...
*were.
No longer.
NOW THERES ONLY ONE ! AND NONE SHALL CHALLENGE THEM !
fluid saffron
I think it should be less centrally governed, remember there were 40 families sh...
And they were not small families either.
rigid radish
I'll most likely start with a dragonlord family in valyria only to say fuck essos and then move to an island south of valyria to live in peace there 😅
fluid saffron
The limits to the dragonlords were the ability to sucessfully bond a dragon.
silent pike
*were.
No longer.
NOW THERES ONLY ONE ! AND NONE SHALL CHALLENGE THEM !
ThATS what I’m TALM BOUT
fluid saffron
As the Targs show, it tends to take something special even within a dragon riding house to tame a dragon
And you need as many dragons as possible to maintain the power of the state.
silent pike
But if I remember correctly tho , not ALL Valyrian families that where part of the 40 had dragons
fluid saffron
One or two or even three dragons are not always enough.
rigid radish
Yo Rvy and Average, let's remember the more we take their time in here, the less time they have spitting this mod out in rapid speed 👀
silent pike
Some where extremely wealthy
grand dust
The ONLY reason a dragonlord didn't seize absolute power, is because there were 39 other families.
But that's not the case anymore.
There's no counter balance to the single dragonriding family in control.
Like, sure the administration wouldn't be as effective if it was decentralized but no one is going to stop that single family from claiming absolute power.
silent pike
Yo Rvy and Average, let's remember the more we take their time in here, the less...
True🫡
narrow wave
Yo Rvy and Average, let's remember the more we take their time in here, the less...
I'm not on my pc rn 😄
fluid saffron
I am having my morning coffee and finding an excuse to not write another chapter of my book
silent pike
I am having my morning coffee and finding an excuse to not write another chapter...
LMAOOOOO
fluid saffron
And besides, I am waiting for Maki to give me more lands to conquer...
rigid radish
I'm not on my pc rn 😄
grand dust
Yo Rvy and Average, let's remember the more we take their time in here, the less...
I hate you for telling me this.
I feel like I'd be happier ignorant of this fact
grand dust
I am having my morning coffee and finding an excuse to not write another chapter...
Okay GRRM
fluid saffron
Because like Alexander, I have seen the limits of my domain and I weep, for there are no more lands to conquer.
grand dust
Because like Alexander, I have seen the limits of my domain and I weep, for ther...
There's always more just gotta find it
fluid saffron
I need to to go further east...
silent pike
Because like Alexander, I have seen the limits of my domain and I weep, for ther...
Thts what I thought to myself when I read that the rest of Valyria coming soon LOL
rigid radish
I am having my morning coffee and finding an excuse to not write another chapter...
You see this @narrow wave !!! milk the cow while it's standing still, you got this, now go milk that cow 
grand dust
You see this <@459348746350886915> !!! milk the cow while it's standing still, y...
We're right behind you
rigid radish
I'm dying here ngl, can't fucking breath laughing this hard
grand dust
fluid saffron
I'm dying here ngl, can't fucking breath laughing this hard <a:LAUGHINGCAT:97020...
He brought a tear to my eye with that...
narrow wave
You see this <@459348746350886915> !!! milk the cow while it's standing still, y...
Uhhh code pls pls
rigid radish
fluid saffron
Code what though?
narrow wave
Ummm
grand dust
Code what though?
A N Y T H I N G
fluid saffron
Glass Candles mind manipulation
silent pike
fluid saffron
I did have system for making people declaring war on each other...
rigid radish
gotta step a away for a second here
silent pike
Lol
narrow wave
Uhhh code pls pls
jk
silent pike
Yeah let em brainstorm a bit
narrow wave
😴😴😴
fluid saffron
Blood rituals for making weirdly overgrown knights...
grand dust
Let's just make a magic system then
narrow wave
In a lab
fluid saffron
So, I did actually write a system for using courtiers as spell casters...
Because I was tired of magic being a player caster thing only...
narrow wave
I think sacrificing slaves would be a cool cost
fluid saffron
So, I made every spell school an interaction, with multiple options and a secondary_actor
grand dust
I think sacrificing slaves would be a cool cost
Yes
fluid saffron
the secondary actor had to have learned the spell, and then you choose them, they cast the spell for you
And boom.
narrow wave
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538
My reaction
grand dust
Ck2agot had a modifier of how much dark power you had.
You could use it to do magic on other people
fluid saffron
This was going to be in Gehimisnacht for CKIII before I retired.
silent pike
I think sacrificing slaves would be a cool cost
Sounds very Valyria LMAO bring forth the blood sacrifices
grand dust
Ck2agot had a modifier of how much dark power you had.
You could use it to do ma...
You gained it from executing people.
More noteworthy meant more power
fluid saffron
Yes, we can store blood magic value in a character trait
And blood magic experience in the same trait.
Base the strength of the spell on your dread+learning
silent pike
These boys cooking HOL UP
fluid saffron
And you now have a scaling ability to bring fire and blood.
silent pike
fluid saffron
Have 10-20 "wizards" in your courts, assign them with your armies.
narrow wave
Nah Zarathustra is the person for this mod
fluid saffron
Would be a nice thing to have is the ability to find new spells in valyria
fluid saffron
So you find some scroll about making people live a bit longer...
And then you gain the ability to teach the spell to other wizards.
grand dust
Nah Zarathustra is the person for this mod
He can't help you and make a magic system at the same time tho
fluid saffron
mmmm
narrow wave
I think i could pull lands of the long summer if zarat could handle more of the code
fluid saffron
I already am making my own magic system...
fluid saffron
OH just tell me what you need coded.
silent pike
He can't help you and make a magic system at the same time tho
You underestimate his BOOOWEEEER
rigid radish
I'm back again and able to breath, now are we going to milk that cow or sleep first
fluid saffron
So, at the moment I have hacked sub-mod to the witchcraft mod I am using.
grand dust
I already am making my own magic system...
Maybe create a thread ?
fluid saffron
Which adds a whole bunch of new spells to it, including a very bad way to make dragon eggs.
grand dust
I'm back again and able to breath, now are we going to milk that cow or sleep fi...
Were milking blood magic instead
narrow wave
I cant tell you rn unfortunately but i think some Simple events Like with a chance to find some valurian stuff when you restore ruins
fluid saffron
Yeah that should be pretty easy to do.
I sort of want to rewrite Valyrian steel to be a passive thing when you are in Valyria
grand dust
I sort of want to rewrite Valyrian steel to be a passive thing when you are in V...
Make valyrian steel should be incorporated into your mod
narrow wave
I wanted to maybe create a decision when you find a certain amount of scrolls to give you a chance to Forge your valurian steel weapons
fluid saffron
Yeah that woul be nice.
rigid radish
Were milking blood magic instead
oh so we're at that point of the month i see 👀
fluid saffron
I have a system using flags where you can learn new interactions.
narrow wave
And maybe lock a tradition for valurian buildings
Behind certain artifacts
Or event
fluid saffron
So, fun fact, I have already a system where you can learn a "spell" from from a perk/flag/trait
this spell is either an interaction or an option in an interaction
silent pike
I wanted to maybe create a decision when you find a certain amount of scrolls to...
YO that’s FIYAAAAH
fluid saffron
And it is checked with a single trigger check, zz_knows_spell = { SPELL = spellname}
the scripted trigger then goes and checks all your courtiers to see if they know the spell and if they do, you get the interaction, and you can choose that courtier to preform the activity for you.
So you could use this to teach your coutiers to forge steel for you
rigid radish
Let's start by getting the area's and then there will always be room to update and add on but you gotta start with one thing at a time. do be like ubisoft and open a thousands basket only to get one done poorly at the end. start with the land and then slowly take it from there 👐
narrow wave
Ngl i think the spells in asoiaf should be pretty balanced and not really without a costly sacrifice
fluid saffron
Yes, but blood is actually cheap 😄
narrow wave
😄
fluid saffron
And we know magic is involved in dragons and valyrian steel
serene breach
allow me to burn my children for guaranteed success murder schemes 😪
fluid saffron
and spells here actually refers to knowledge of an activity.
Essentially, you can have one single interaction, and then choose all the victims...
rigid radish
allow me to burn my children for guaranteed success murder schemes 😪
YES or to spawn a cat
fluid saffron
Glass Candles where you steal knowledge of secrets from an enemy
or make them rivals with another character
narrow wave
I think there should be a possibility of the caster dying in the process
fluid saffron
Or even make them declare a war.
rigid radish
I think there should be a possibility of the caster dying in the process
No :c
fluid saffron
I think the risks should be in the learning and the mastery
But what we do hear of the Dragon Lords is that as they became fierce in magic they did become secure in it too.
rigid radish
imagne trying to cast a spell to figure out if someone is trying to kill you and then you die in trying to cast the spell
fluid saffron
Fueled by the blood of slaves.
silent pike
But what we do hear of the Dragon Lords is that as they became fierce in magic t...
Facts
silent pike
imagne trying to cast a spell to figure out if someone is trying to kill you and...
I’d laugh so hard ngl
fluid saffron
Like, I would have it so if you get to 100 learning you don't die in using magic... now getting to 100 learning is actually pretty hard without some measure of cheating 😄
rigid radish
I’d laugh so hard ngl
Like on a real note, my child came to me and said the egg wouldn't hatch so i said hey try and bond with my fathers dragon and it fucking ate my kid
grand dust
Like on a real note, my child came to me and said the egg wouldn't hatch so i sa...
YOOOOO
rigid radish
I want less of that kind of shit to happen
rigid radish
What trairs does the dragon have
Aggressive and cannibal. as the 2 that stands out the most
grand dust
Aggressive and cannibal. as the 2 that stands out the most
Well yeah obviously he ate the kid
fluid saffron
Keep my 30+ fire lizards under control.
narrow wave
And find some stuff
fluid saffron
Or find it in Valyria
narrow wave
You would have to contact asshai
Of course not literally
fluid saffron
piece it together form a thousand fragments.
silent pike
You would have to contact asshai
narrow wave
Event decision like
fluid saffron
HAve a chance of death if you haven't gained enough
and you are not a genius or have high learning.
Your rituals have gone wrong and you bleed to your death kind of thing.
rigid radish
Well yeah obviously he ate the kid
But still!!! he was my sole air and my man couldn't get more kids after the first one
fluid saffron
But if you go nice and slowly, piece it all together, then you can learn the secrets of blood.
rigid radish
then i died 2 days later in battle and my brother took everything
narrow wave
Ngl now we need only one more person i think
fluid saffron
mmmm, slave women giving birth to dragon eggs and dying?
silent pike
Zara worth 5
rigid radish
Ngl now we need only one more person i think
the fuck you mean, i'm already here 👐
narrow wave
I tried to make some today im blender
fluid saffron
You need more dragon eggs? We can force a woman prisoner/courtier to give birth to a clutch and die through evil secrets.
rigid radish
you asked us what we would like to see in the mod and i said way back then, me and my cat.
fluid saffron
Tell me that does not sound suitably Valyrian?
narrow wave
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-178005334262989...
Valurians and their stuff
grand dust
mmmm, slave women giving birth to dragon eggs and dying?
Maybe do some gogossos type degenerate despicable abuse and get some half lion half man creature ?
CAN WE GET A MF DRAGONMAN ?????
fluid saffron
They did do breeding experients...
narrow wave
No wonder the volcanos went kaboom
rigid radish
you can call me Eivor both eyes and my cat Sif, then i know who to kill off first in blood magic
grand dust
No wonder the volcanos went kaboom
God was like " yall sinned to hard to wait for judgement after you died " and dropped a nuke
fluid saffron
Dragon Man wouldn't work well.
silent pike
Dude seriously tho very excited for the outcome of this mod ngl
grand dust
Dragon Man wouldn't work well.
Nah nah, hear me out.
A man with wings to fly and ability to breathe fire and hardy scales on his body
THIS GONNA BE LIT AF
rigid radish
Nah nah, hear me out.
A man with wings to fly and ability to breathe fire and ha...
Bro, this isn't HBO nor Warner bros
silent pike
fluid saffron
Well stupid compassion... The gift was a monumentally stupid idea..
grand dust
https://tenor.com/view/evil-spongebob-gif-6081957
YES ! E V I L
silent pike
I no likey her
fluid saffron
I mean, tell me this is not Valyrian flavour...
grand dust
Valyrian religion shouldn't have compassionate as a virtue
narrow wave
So after all of that i think IT was good they perished
fluid saffron
That is the thing, I like the idea of colonizing valyria giving you more and more "dark" choices.
narrow wave
Bobby was right i guess
grand dust
That is the thing, I like the idea of colonizing valyria giving you more and mor...
Yes
silent pike
Bobby was right i guess
LMAO
rigid radish
And this is somewhat why i wish to live on an iceland 😅
fluid saffron
Pushing a kind of dark playthrough
where you ahve to actively push back against it
narrow wave
Ngl that would be awesome
flat depot
That is the thing, I like the idea of colonizing valyria giving you more and mor...
explain what you mean by this Nietzsche enjoyer
fluid saffron
imagine you try and be virtuous, you burn the pages of dark spells, hidden secrets, and then you hear the dark whispers in the night, tormenting you...
narrow wave
More darker gameplay
fluid saffron
The more you say no to not becoming like the Dragonlords of old, the more you are tormented
events leading to possession
when you sleep
grand dust
events leading to possession
Also stress and maybe lunatic
fluid saffron
Whispers, all of sudden some of your vassals hate you for not being fully in line with your new home.
Your sons confront you for not being properly Valyrian...
narrow wave
EVIL AGOT confirmed?
fluid saffron
Then your wife tries to kill you because you wouldn't marry your daughter to your son.
grand dust
That's really dark
silent pike
Y’all forget this man an author ? The imagination runs endlessly
narrow wave
Ummm maybe we should set up some gamerules
fluid saffron
Something of the doom lclings to these lands...
rigid radish
Let's just finish with the rest of valyria part first and make a plan afterwards for what to come 👀
narrow wave
For the stuff
grand dust
Ummm maybe we should set up some gamerules
^^^^^
silent pike
Let's just finish with the rest of valyria part first and make a plan afterwards...
PLZ
fluid saffron
Y’all forget this man an author ? The imagination runs endlessly
I am a professor actually. I teach Catholic theology, philosophy, and the history of ideas.
grand dust
I am a professor actually. I teach Catholic theology, philosophy, and the histo...
Ave amicus, quid agit ?
silent pike
I am a professor actually. I teach Catholic theology, philosophy, and the histo...
I stand corrected
rigid radish
PLZ
I mean like an actual proper plan cause right now we're doing a lot of brainstorming a no one is taking notes
silent pike
Yet here I am still falling over LOL
narrow wave
I mean like an actual proper plan cause right now we're doing a lot of brainstor...
Basically EVIL magic
fluid saffron
Ave amicus, quid agit ?
non mallus
narrow wave
I am a professor actually. I teach Catholic theology, philosophy, and the histo...
This man could help GRRM to finish his series
rigid radish
So finish this map thingy and then a new mod called valyrian magic or valyrian lore? magic pack?
grand dust
non mallus
Est bene
narrow wave
I mean like an actual proper plan cause right now we're doing a lot of brainstor...
Yeah we need to organize roadmap more
Etc
silent pike
This man could help GRRM to finish his series
I think my grandchildren might end up reading that at this pace
fluid saffron
Yes, though tbh, I am mostly thinking through how I would want events tied to getting the secrets of Valyria.
Learn to make their black roads, descover your need to kill people for ingredients...
rigid radish
I think my grandchildren might end up reading that at this pace
Don't worry, GRRM just need to get done with his rage on youtube and then he's right back at writing the books 😅
grand dust
Learn to make their black roads, descover your need to kill people for ingredien...
Would be lit
Valyrian steel and such
fluid saffron
mmm, that reminds me, for my current playthrough I need to steal the reward event fromt he Valyrian steel mod, and then make my own that has a yearly chance to fire if your capital is in valyria.
rigid radish
higher status the person you kill, then the higher level the weapon or armor would be 👀
grand dust
higher status the person you kill, then the higher level the weapon or armor wou...
Or rather, more blood points or smth
rigid radish
Or rather, more blood points or smth
Right
grand dust
That are then used In forging the weapon
fluid saffron
One thing I hope Roads to Power allows is to directly store trait_xp as a variable.
narrow wave
Could also borrow and remake mana stuff from other magic mods
grand dust
334 am but f*ck sleep ig we out here cooking
fluid saffron
Oh, I have... 😄
Best magic mod out there is called witchcraft.
if folks want one to include.
grand dust
Oh, I have... 😄
Also delete their mods to avoid accusation kf plagiarism
rigid radish
334 am but f*ck sleep ig we out here cooking
02:34 here, started my game, made my first char and didn't get any furter from there 😅
narrow wave
Or better Ask them for permission to remake their stuff
grand dust
Or better Ask them for permission to remake their stuff
Shhhhh
They don't need to know
Ignorance is bliss
rigid radish
Shhhhh
turn that shit around, let's say you made this beautifull mod ( agot ) and a fat guy from denmark (me) copied your shit and called it got, you would be beyond pissed 👐
silent pike
I tried laying down but the hype woke me right back up
rigid radish
and i actually believe the modders would be able to take legal action if that was the case 👐
grand dust
turn that shit around, let's say you made this beautifull mod ( agot ) and a fat...
If I found out, yes.
Also he rebrands it and changes some stuff so plagiarism won't be obvious.
Now as for Denmark, check your dm
rigid radish
i know something like that happened to Darthmod on total war mod site which pushed them towards making their own gaming company
rigid radish
If I found out, yes.
Also he rebrands it and changes some stuff so plagiarism wo...
To be fair, i am actually Italian but i live in denmark and have throughout the most of my life 👐
grand dust
To be fair, i am actually Italian but i live in denmark and have throughout the ...
Do they ruin pasta there too ?
rigid radish
Do they ruin pasta there too ?
Yes.
grand dust
narrow wave
Do they ruin pasta there too ?
Ruin... Like ruin mechanics?
grand dust
Ruin... Like ruin mechanics?
Make it both
rigid radish
Ruin... Like ruin mechanics?
Worse then that.
most people i know here in denmark who tries to make pasta, makes dough that taste like salt instead.
grand dust
most people i know here in denmark who tries to make pasta, makes dough that tas...
Capital punishment for such a henious crime
Hey guys, our most esteem fellow @rigid radish is making a group where we can pitch out ideas in a more organized manner
rigid radish
In italy sure, in denmark, not so much. it's either going to taste of salt or straight up water :c
grand dust
In italy sure, in denmark, not so much. it's either going to taste of salt or st...
Just stick to koldskal
rigid radish
Lmao more or less milk with sugar in it
grand dust
narrow wave
😴
fluid saffron
Ok, so looks like I should probably make a whole bunch of scripting changes...
So, need to include valyria volcano in the choose dragonpit events
add the county to the dragonkeeper init events
grand dust
HE WASNT MUTED @rigid radish
fluid saffron
No, just a warning...
grand dust
Check your dm
grand dust
We was getting worried
rigid radish
We was getting worried
Not that worried tho i'm watching HOTD so i don't really got time to be worried
grand dust
Not that worried tho <a:LAUGHINGCAT:970203418629120090> i'm watching HOTD so i d...
WELL I WAS !
buoyant gulch
grand dust
<:sus:783659215063089172>
Watchu doing ?
rigid radish
<:sus:783659215063089172>
What makes it sus 🤔
buoyant gulch
The mod doesn't at all look sus, it's everyone else in here that is 🤣🤣🤣
grand dust
do it laddie
rigid radish
Welp i meean, we been brainstorming, helping and been shadow warned along with what happened 2 days ago, so i personally think that we got every right to take our convo elsewhere when it seems to be a way bigger issue then it actually is, without it being sus 🤷♂️
grand dust
Not to mention that all this nsfw thing was agreed to be locked behind a game rule
rigid radish
In other words, we simply just don't want any problems and seeing how it was somewhat an issue for others, it would only benefit everyone that with jumped elsewhere with the brainstorming 🙃
narrow wave
Its still a channel dedicated to the mod, the ideas and showing work that have been done, however more SFW.
grand dust
Its still a channel dedicated to the mod, the ideas and showing work that have b...
And the more disturbing NSFW content we'll lock behind a game rule.
strong hull
Its still a channel dedicated to the mod, the ideas and showing work that have b...
targaryen genetic breeding with incest is SFW ?
XD
its not siruos
strong hull
Than making dragon eggs by yourself
sounds hurtfull
narrow wave
Yeah pretty much
grand dust
targaryen genetic breeding with incest is SFW ?
we're referring to gogossos and more scary, horror like events
limpid crag
grand dust
which ofc is going to be locked behind a game rule.
narrow wave
we're referring to gogossos and more scary, horror like events
Maybe not horror like but just blood magic stuff
grand dust
Maybe not horror like but just blood magic stuff
zarathusra floated the idea of ghosts and nightmares and your family acting against you if you stray from the " good ole " valyrian way
grand dust
To not be that much invasive
some people are scared easily like me so yeah game rules regarding events and other nsfw content
limpid crag
Submod to a Submod
limpid crag
Colonizable Valyria - Light version
grand dust
One that isn’t discussed here
we cant. not allowed
limpid crag
!!!
grand dust
!!!
narrow wave
!!! ???
pliant horizon
Me when I’m not allowed to discuss my incest blood magic beastiality fetishes in a public forum 😔
narrow wave
Dont know if i would Like to include all the stuff
grand dust
Dont know if i would Like to include all the stuff
i could do without gogossos tbh, too wierd for me
narrow wave
Like sacrificing population to give you boosts and other stuff would be cool
grand dust
i like the idea of " blood points " that you get like in ck2AGOT
shrewd yarrow
Me when I’m not allowed to discuss my incest blood magic beastiality fetishes in...
Woke mob and all that
pliant horizon
Real
limpid crag
knights when they can throw their wokeness at the mob
grand dust
i could do without gogossos tbh, too wierd for me
maybe this can be a different submod for the truly depraved 🤣
pliant horizon
agile lake
grand dust
<:warhawk:1093335550909493380>
It's why I'm saying this should be left out of this mod.
pliant horizon
You guys played ck2 with the visit chambers mod didn’t you 
grand dust
You guys played ck2 with the visit chambers mod didn’t you <:imp_rapture:1104039...
No actually.
Didn't ck2 agot have that option ?
pliant horizon
Pretty sure it’s a submod
grand dust
Pretty sure it’s a submod
Maybe it's in one of the many submods I had on ck2agot
pliant horizon
Yeah I bet
narrow wave
I dont know, i want to include valurian blood magic, however its pretty hard to say what should be included
grand dust
I dont know, i want to include valurian blood magic, however its pretty hard to ...
There's definitely some more disturbing aspects to it so we should really discuss this.
narrow wave
Would Like some feedback to make it not that weird but still cool
grand dust
I think the event text should be watered down, not too descriptive.
Maybe shame you a bit on the way
grand dust
In core mod you can burn your child for a dragon
Yeah but it's no descriptive.
There's no in depth explanation to what's happening.
Some guilt tripping iirc ( which is good )
wicked sky
Yeah but it's no descriptive.
There's no in depth explanation to what's happenin...
Doesn't the event describe how the child is screaming and how your character almost falters from hearing it? Thats decently descriptive
grand dust
Doesn't the event describe how the child is screaming and how your character alm...
Sheesh.
Talk about nsfw.
Yeah this mod shouldn't do it.
fresh storm
Well
You think you could add different fight encounter events after rebuild?
Like you wonder away from the rebuilded city, and you encounter a stone skin guy, and you have to duel him, or when you fly with your dragon an old dragon from the past attack you, and the event like the dragon fight come in.
narrow wave
i wanted to add something like this
like a stonemen attack
That would be cool, thanks
fresh storm
That would be cool, thanks
If u need some more event ideas like this i can think about some, better summarized.
Could send it over to your dms after they are ready.
grand dust
Lock em behind a game rule !
rigid radish
So what did i miss 👀
grand dust
Scroll up
rigid radish
I might be a little slow here but let me see if i get this correct? this is a discord about game of thrones ( a song of ice and fire ) but we ain't allowed to talk about it's lore??
grand dust
I might be a little slow here but let me see if i get this correct? this is a di...
Appearntly it's not safe for work
rigid radish
ofcause not everything in the books should be allowed in game because the actual fuck. like i get no SA and things like that because why would you. but having blood magic in the game isn't such a big deal, it would be something like sacrafise your prisoner and get 10 buff points in bonding with your dragon or something like that. get me right here. there is ofcause a line that shouldn't be crossed by the base game/mods but that's why you can make nsfw rules in the game as seen many times before. like you can legit be a cannibal pope eating your own kids in base game if that's what you wish to be, we're all adults here so let's act like it. if there is something we don't like, welp don't activate it in game rules, that's why they are there 🤷♂️
grand dust
Very elegantly put my good ser !
rigid radish
Just saying that if you wish to do a playthrough as Robert and do the exact things he did, you should be able too but you'll have to put the rules for it first. 🤷♂️
pliant horizon
rigid radish
But yea, that's not here nor there since that ain't what we're working on atm but the map part of valyria is. what we create later is what we create later
grand dust
wanton prism
how do i become a pure Valyrian using command
rigid radish
how do i become a pure Valyrian using command
Changing a Character’s Culture to High Valyrian
set_culture high_valyrian (char ID here)
blissful surge
ofcause not everything in the books should be allowed in game because the actual...
what would be included in the NSFW rules tho is my question?
grand dust
what would be included in the NSFW rules tho is my question?
All the potentially triggering things like events that provide too much description or otherwise horror events
wanton prism
Changing a Character’s Culture to High Valyrian
set_culture high_valyrian (char ...
i meant blood of old valyrian
blissful surge
general "horror" events arent exactly NSFW, you can do a lot in the basegame - what type of horror events would you be talking about
grand dust
general "horror" events arent exactly NSFW, you can do a lot in the basegame - w...
Zarathustra floated some ideas if you deviate from the valyrian way of life.
Like nightmares, ghosts and your own family trying to clap you
shrewd yarrow
Personally I think rwording women is bad actually
grand dust
Ey ?
rigid radish
well either we keep everything nsfw behind nsfw rules ( which the base game doesn't ) meaning slavary, incest, killing, murdering, torturing, nudity, forced marriage, forced kids and the list continues or we take it as it is, it's an adult game and as long as the base game didn't set those limits then why should we?
blissful surge
well either we keep everything nsfw behind nsfw rules ( which the base game does...
forced kids?
shrewd yarrow
well either we keep everything nsfw behind nsfw rules ( which the base game does...
Again sexual harassment is bad hope this helps 🙂
narrow wave
i honestly wouldnt want forced stuff, like slaves concubines
grand dust
Again sexual harassment is bad hope this helps 🙂
Literally no one justified it.
shrewd yarrow
Literally no one justified it.
Thus one guy literally just said he wanted it 😭🙏
grand dust
Thus one guy literally just said he wanted it 😭🙏
He was pointing out to the fact that it's in the base game and the agot mod.
grand dust
Forced children?
Probably a typo I don't get what it means either.
rigid radish
i honestly wouldnt want forced stuff, like slaves concubines
neither do any of us tho but it's still something you can somewhat do in game, like you can get a prisoner and force them to become your wife/husband and that way through lay with said wife/husband.
grand dust
Someone check Eivor's basement
He's not condoning it. He is pointing out the fact that some of these things can be done in the base game and in agot itself but all the criticism is coming against doing such things in this mod
narrow wave
forced children im going to assume is r*pe....
i think he didnt mean that
grand dust
i honestly wouldnt want forced stuff, like slaves concubines
Us neither
quasi needle
ngl its crazy how this went from murdering prisoners to birth giant flying lizards to sa
rigid radish
I don't condone any of that fucking shit let's just make that shit clear from the get go. all i'm doing is legit pointing out that what most people wish to have behind a so called rule setting is already in the base game.
grand dust
ngl its crazy how this went from murdering prisoners to birth giant flying lizar...
I just wanted to play as a dragonman that's capable of flying 
quasi needle
I just wanted to play as a dragonman that's capable of flying <:Cry:803555105248...
thats what we all want fr
grand dust
blissful surge
and how would you achieve being a dragonman that can fly 😭
grand dust
and how would you achieve being a dragonman that can fly 😭
Well, that's the controversial part that we won't speak of.
blissful surge
whats the "controversial" part?
grand dust
I dont even want to say it for fear or reprisal
blissful surge
then why would you want to add it if its that bad 😭
solid ginkgo
Brother what is this thread ive been watching it for updates on the mod not an ethics class about a fictional world
like 😭
wanton prism
How do I get this with command
narrow wave
Brother what is this thread ive been watching it for updates on the mod not an e...
Well, it escalated pretty quickly
grand dust
Because dragonman is cool.
( they way he comes into being is very much NOT )
solid ginkgo
Well, it escalated pretty quickly
I can see that part lol
quasi needle
Brother what is this thread ive been watching it for updates on the mod not an e...
bro for real like i dont think people get this isnt the real world
rigid radish
There will always be problems and issues where people seek it. that's just how the world is.
blissful surge
bro for real like i dont think people get this isnt the real world
..... that dosent mean you can want for horrific things to be added like || forcing prisoners to mate with dragons to create hybrids ||
grand dust
..... that dosent mean you can want for horrific things to be added like || forc...
You can literally take slaves in slave raids but that's where we draw the line ig.
glacial remnant
How do I get this with command
effect dynasty = {add_dynasty_modifier = valyrian_heritage_dynasty_modifier }
quasi needle
..... that dosent mean you can want for horrific things to be added like || forc...
i doubt anyone would murder a baby to get a dragon but its still in the game
rigid radish
i doubt anyone would murder a baby to get a dragon but its still in the game
And in the books 🤷♂️
quasi needle
How did this even come up as a topic
blood magic
glacial remnant
i doubt anyone would murder a baby to get a dragon but its still in the game
I'm pro dragon 
In game of course
rigid radish
How did this even come up as a topic
talking about the lore Martin made and where the fine line is and should be.
quasi needle
I'm pro dragon <:Kapp:702551877673549955>
ngl that made me laugh
glacial remnant
talking about the lore Martin made and where the fine line is and should be.
Often the good stories do some wild shit
Of course within a limit
But human history was wild as well
rigid radish
exactly
now the point of view we're coming from is that we wish to add the good stories with some wiild shit without it stepping over the line of what's okay.
So martin made it possible to do a hybrid through the way he did it and we have been talking about how to maybe make those hybrids but in a different way so instead of it being SA, it could by sacrefice of a prisoner
like a "kill two slaves get one dragon egg"
grand dust
like a "kill two slaves get one dragon egg"
Kind of too easy imo
blissful surge
this is a mod based on the ability to colonize valyria - OP themselfs has said that they do not want to add any "forced" events or content - which would include the SA or "Forced" mating with prisoners with dragons like in Gogossos, so regardless of the want to add an NSFW game rule - that event/aspect will not be added unless something changes
it is not about this being a "fictional world" or "not real" or "an ethics class" its about basic human decency to not want to advocate doing adding more deprived features into a game which already allows you to do some cursed things..
some people are uncomfortable naturally with the want to add the Gogossos blood magic because of what that entails (see first paragraph)
you can add valyrian flavour and events without them being depraved in nature, like expanding on history/language/houses or blood magic.. but thats just my view point
if we could have a civilised discussion about maybe alternative methods to get your "hybrids" it would be better.. thanks
glacial remnant
So essentially the same as a dragon taming event with a dragonhorn where you sacrifice a courtier or hatching event where you can use yourself as a catalyst or a relative
But aye probably not the intended topic for the thread?
Maybe out of the scope of the mod
Is what I should say
grand dust
this is a mod based on the ability to colonize valyria - OP themselfs has said t...
I absolutely agree.
Which is why we want to find a way to make a censored, and more SFW way to create chimeras
( and maybe dragonman too )
glacial remnant
Tbh ask an ai, such as chatgpt, I'm pretty sure they can come up with something
As it's usually morally correct in what it says
grand dust
Tbh ask an ai, such as chatgpt, I'm pretty sure they can come up with something
@narrow wave
glacial remnant
As it's usually morally correct in what it says
Source: Memes based on the messages above
rigid radish
this is a mod based on the ability to colonize valyria - OP themselfs has said t...
basically what we been trying to say for quite some time now but thank you for saying it in your way.
rigid radish
Maybe out of the scope of the mod
which is also one of the big reasons why we tried to move that convo to a different place as you can see, there is some people in here that won't really let us.
glacial remnant
I kinda get both sides
blissful surge
which is also one of the big reasons why we tried to move that convo to a differ...
.....the owner of the mod dosent want to do it tho?
grand dust
No reason you couldn't make a submod for a submod tbh
That's what I'm saying !
grand dust
.....the owner of the mod dosent want to do it tho?
He doesn't want to do anything forced. And we agree.
So we're trying to come up with a different way
glacial remnant
Get a red priest, pretty sure they are down for anything as long as it serves the lord of light
grand dust
So let's just agree that both sides agree to disagree and move on
But we don't disagree lol we all agree on the same thing
glacial remnant
glacial remnant
But we don't disagree lol we all agree on the same thing
Let's just say that's your opinion on the matter, not mine nor theirs
grand dust
Let's just say that's your opinion on the matter, not mine nor theirs
No, it isnt.
We all agree that gogossos should be implemented in a nutured manner.
rigid radish
.....the owner of the mod dosent want to do it tho?
then why the fuck is he in our discord channel talking about expanding on valyria later on? yes ofcause he doesn't want the fuck up shit like SA non of us does and he doesn't what future plans to go in a wall of text here neither which is why we moved the convo (with him) to different discord? like why is it so hard to understand we're actually working on the same side all of us rather then the constant assumstion that we're doing things maksi doesn't want?
glacial remnant
No, it isnt.
We all agree that gogossos should be implemented in a nutured manne...
Okay, I get that, but I'm saying that some people are kicking a horse that was already discussed
rigid radish
like we legit have a discord server (not this one) where we are talking plans about future mods, not this one right here but mods in the future AFTER this one
blissful surge
i dont understand your need to be agressive, i am not in that server nor have seen those channels all i have seen is this channel where he very clearly says he does not want "to add anything forced" which is what i repeated
glacial remnant
And I'm pretty sure they said they agree
grand dust
This whole thing is just a misunderstanding
glacial remnant
Or correct me if I'm wrong
rigid radish
Not being agressive? thats just the way i speak/text, we all g mate, no worries on that part 
grand dust
glacial remnant
And not to justify anything, but if the things we did in video games were to be accounted as real crimes, pretty sure 90% of the server would be in house arrest
quartz vault
Wah wah wah wah wah wah
blissful surge
"there is some people in here that wont really let us" - nobody is stopping you from talking about your mod here and nobody is stopping you from adding anything to this mod, some people are just uncomfortable with things brought up in this channel previously. which i hope have now been settled
i think it would help if the scope of the mod was talked about in here so you dont up anyones expectations
glacial remnant
Bro really just popped in and said womp womp
Up anyone's expectation? Of what? A mod barely in the thinking phase?
quasi needle
is it just me or is wunderbar the only one causing a problem?
grand dust
is it just me or is wunderbar the only one causing a problem?
Nah he's good
quartz vault
is it just me or is wunderbar the only one causing a problem?
Its just you
agile lake
is it just me or is wunderbar the only one causing a problem?
bruh
blissful surge
is it just me or is wunderbar the only one causing a problem?
....alr man
glacial remnant
Also let's not point fingers
grand dust
( bro managed to get everyone to turn on him )
glacial remnant
No-one is to blamed for anything ?
glacial remnant
( bro managed to get everyone to turn on him )
Reverse baelish moment
grand dust
No-one is to blamed for anything ?
That is correct !
quasi needle
Nah he's good
thing is that bro keeps arguing after everyone is trying to clear up the misunderstanding but if its just me ok
neon smelt
is it just me or is wunderbar the only one causing a problem?
nah bruh
glacial remnant
Okay, valid thinking but I think everyone read too much into things
pseudo plinth
rigid radish
As i wrote earlier, there will always be issues where people wish to find them.
if you ask me. since we been trying to move the convo back to what the actual mod is and what people could expect from it but more or less failed at it each time we tried, can we just get a complete clean up in here and then let Maksi write what he wishes the channel to say so we can get back on track?
grand dust
thing is that bro keeps arguing after everyone is trying to clear up the misunde...
He's just responding to our comments he's good
grand dust
Can a mod put a 30 minute timer on this chat ?
No !
pliant horizon
quasi needle
Okay, valid thinking but I think everyone read too much into things
yeah i could see like 6 people responded like in less then a second
pseudo plinth
Y'all are in timeout, anyone but the mod author posts in here in the next hour and I catch them you're getting a server hour-long timeout
In the meantime, please read the #crown-laws, particularly Rule 5
narrow wave
I think it all was a misunderstanding, the stuff with valyrian blood magic was brought up, because it was mentioned in GRRM's books and I think the people didn't have bad intentions with what's been mentioned throughout the entire conversation. It's pretty hard to think about mechanics with such source which is why we have been trying to find more friendly ways of bringing the Valyrian content to life. I think that Valyrian blood magic shouldn't cover stuff like breeding and hybrids, So I will be restraining from that and so will the rest of people that i'm working with.
I would also want to ask for a cleanup from the stuff with the blood magic
worthy jungle
So, could we please get a purge 100 in here 👀
this was said momements before valyria was exploded
worthy jungle
what even happend im still so lost
rigid radish
this was said momements before valyria was exploded
you know it
vernal cliff
lets just move on from it
rigid radish
what even happend im still so lost
The list is long and the night is short, it is what it is, time to move forward.
vernal cliff
worthy jungle
soooooo, any previews for 3d models being used in the 14 flames??
would be cool if in like COW, the buildings could look ruined and then be built up and look normal again
rigid radish
Right now, we're planning on getting this channel cleaned up and after that we'll add some words in here about what's been done so far and where we plan on going with it along with some extra infomation
worthy jungle
lol
narrow wave
not really...
worthy jungle
not really...
do you plan on creating your own models, mashing agot models together, or just not using models at all?
silent pike
Yeh
silent pike
I’m learning tho idc fk it we ball
worthy jungle
yea im just wondering
rigid radish
I think we're going to keep it sweet and simple in the beginning and then we can always add things later on as time pass and we become better 👐
narrow wave
I plan to, Rvyyv is learning the gfx
rigid radish
Right now, we got Maksi on mapping, zara on coding, Rvy is trying to learn how to something something gfx, Averge is pretty awesome on lore and i'm just here for the motivation and info sharing while trying to keep us on track 😅
glacial remnant
Glad the project is panning out
Almost feeling nostalgic when I gave advice to Maksiuuu
narrow wave
Almost feeling nostalgic when I gave advice to Maksiuuu
It feels like it was only a week ago 🥹 (it was)
rigid radish
Advice is always appriciated and so is idea's as long as it follows guidelines 👐
rigid radish
It feels like it was only a week ago 🥹 (it was)
you just wrote it was a week ago
narrow wave
you just wrote it was a week ago <a:LAUGHINGCAT:970203418629120090>
😡 im editing after writing a lot
glacial remnant
rigid radish
😡 im editing after writing a lot
Ain't that what we got zara for? you write a lot and he edits it so it makes sense 😅
coarse berry
@narrow wave are you doing all the map/textures edits/paints?
rigid radish
He knows about the green puke colour
narrow wave
He knows about the green puke colour
its 🔥
coarse berry
if you need basic stuff for the volcanos/mountains I have a generic set published on the coop that was made with Valyria in mind
silent pike
I’m just starting to learn today on how to do castle models gfx for later updates on the mod
coarse berry
dreamy siren
idea
silent pike
Yeah
rigid radish
That's lit!
silent pike
I shared those
narrow wave
We have planned to use your stuff
dreamy siren
for you maksi
silent pike
Wit the group
narrow wave
Thanks
silent pike
They was too FIYAH
dreamy siren
letting you eventually restore the once super fertile lands north of the peninsula for example
narrow wave
they look beautiful
silent pike
Yeah that was the terrain texture I had in mind before running into it
dreamy siren
also also
rigid radish
letting you eventually restore the once super fertile lands north of the peninsu...
We have in fact been talking about doing something like that later down the line
dreamy siren
for events and stuff, you could add in some related to fire wyrms
silent pike
for events and stuff, you could add in some related to fire wyrms
Trust me, that’s already coming lol
dreamy siren
(you could discuss the ole... what happened to balerions rider before viserys 'the good' but uh)
narrow wave
Lucky Storm sent me some pretty cool ideas
narrow wave
Lucky Storm sent me some pretty cool ideas
for events
rigid radish
all of the plans we have will be shared once we get this channel cleaned up so we can start in here from a fresh
dreamy siren
what if valyrian magic to *control* the volcanoes?
was one of them similar to this at all?
(just checking cause i think the idea has some merit, given the lore of the place. Formerly super fertile land, best around, then the fall kinda ruined it with the ash)
rigid radish
yes
pseudo plinth
I think it all was a misunderstanding, the stuff with valyrian blood magic was b...
Purge commands don't work in forum threads
rigid radish
Purge commands don't work in forum threads
oh, would it then be okay with you if we delete this thread to then create a new one?
narrow wave
i can do that
rigid radish
I could make a new thread or should we keep this one?
two minds that thinks alike
rigid radish
to many great minds
dreamy siren
great threads think a mind
rigid radish
great threads think a mind
Yes, that
rigid radish
Oh 👀
grand dust
Do it
silent pike
It’s all good. We balling rn
buoyant gulch
- our chat log has every message ever messaged anyways
silent pike
LOL
rigid radish
Make a new one
on it
narrow wave
wait i have to take some nice photos