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shell lark
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Screenshot it

bitter junco
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Neat

tight stone
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what about this is this evidance enough?

worthy agate
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yeah you and your 10 alts lmao

worthy agate
silk vigil
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Why don't you like, find the actual legal DMCA notice itself and post it then

neon vale
bitter junco
silk vigil
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People are claiming there is evidence but I'm just seeing he said she said

tight stone
bitter junco
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AND?

worthy agate
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oh no on REDDIT?!

shell lark
worthy agate
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I'll just say I'm honestly appalled at how outlets are just taking this at face value without even asking gsc for a statement.

shell lark
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Isnt it like nigjt time in Czechia ? Or am i silly

silk vigil
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It is a weekend, brotato chip

marsh girder
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you do not deny this stuff publicly you sort it out legally first, this is normal practice

worthy agate
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like hot damn how can you be such hacks

shell lark
vernal flume
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misery tag
ooh ma gawd

worthy agate
bitter junco
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Half the team is still in Kyiv as well so different timezones

vernal flume
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what about their behaivour towards the war n being pro-z

worthy agate
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which could be a coincidence, but could also be very much deliberate

shell lark
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Yo you should listen to ur own bio lowk

worthy agate
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oh please
don't go there lil bro

shell lark
vernal flume
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admins had ZOV tags and actively joked about the war

bitter junco
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Are you 12

marsh girder
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what is evidence then bro

neon vale
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yall need more free time to argue

vernal flume
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you poor poor soul

worthy agate
bitter junco
neon vale
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what is this corny shit

vernal flume
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you poor poor soul

worthy agate
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it's more or less like doing a copyright strike on youtube

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a what of whuh?

neon vale
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misery fans corny as hell dog emoji_81

vernal flume
shell lark
vernal flume
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surely misery devs are nice people right? Hmmmarine

worthy agate
simple sageBOT
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amw_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

neon vale
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yall are conspiracy theorists, it was probably just a rogue actor and the dev (being a teen) reacted childishly

shell lark
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Dude what did i even say 💔💔💔💔

worthy agate
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however, if you did want to try and make GSC look bad, that's exactly what you'd make it look like.

tight stone
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Well i dont even own misery loooooooooooooooool

neon vale
shell lark
vernal flume
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im happy the z-brigade got effed over dgaf abt the game lmao

tight stone
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i played the demo and that was it

marsh girder
tight stone
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got all the stalker games though

worthy agate
shell lark
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Also lowk dont like this argument much this is a little bit of cope because i love the game
Seperate art from artist or something

neon vale
worthy agate
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I just hope we get an official statement from GSC clearing the air about it.

tight stone
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if misery devs are using the war then that is shit

silk vigil
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It's weird seeing them post pro-wagner stuff, I thought they hated those guys after they turned around and effortlessly invaded russia

neon vale
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i guarantee GSC is gonna say it was a rogue actor, and the misery dev is gonna be fuсked because he will now be liable for defaming GSC over all the bad PR they are getting from him accusing them

worthy agate
tight stone
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Yeah I agree

worthy agate
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I just want them to clear things up because god damn I can't believe the escapist would be so tabloidy as to already start the rumor mill without even asking gsc for a comment

bitter junco
worthy agate
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like how can you be such a talentless unprofessional hack

shell lark
worthy agate
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also stating that "gsc has a history of going after stalker inspired games and mods"

shell lark
worthy agate
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mfer are you aware that gsc is probably one of the most permissive companies with their IP

bitter junco
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Even then, if it’s a false flag, GSC is going to drain every dollar out of that ‘set for life’ bin he has they can

shell lark
shell lark
bitter junco
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Hell no, if it’s a false flag I hope they bury the guy

shell lark
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That or they might take control of the game ip and publishing rights idk how the laws over there work around it

bitter junco
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You don’t cause all this potential legal commotion and drama and walk away head held high

marsh girder
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if GSC goes "it wasn't us" and the dev says it wasn't him the most realistic outcome is that nothing bloody happens unless some proof comes out tbh

shell lark
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Or they could pull a valve and hire him and its all koombaiyah and everyones happy and world peace is achieved world hunger is solved

bitter junco
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LMAO HELL NO

shell lark
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I was joking dw

bitter junco
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At absolute best, he gets told to screw off and now has a permanently damaged rep

shell lark
neon vale
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the best outcome, because even though he has reacted childishly, he is only a teen

shell lark
vernal flume
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so? good lesson that u have to be professional about this

bitter junco
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Once you hit 18, you’re playing by grown up rules

shell lark
vernal flume
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no matter what scenario; in real life if you act like a kid in serious places, you will be scolded/punished

neon vale
shell lark
vernal flume
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eh, i dont see a problem w it; age doesnt matter when it comes to copyright

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plus its not suing; its just a cease and desist for now

worthy agate
shell lark
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Maybe he does have autism or something actually now that i think about it that would make sense as rude as it sounds, one autistic person to another 💀

worthy agate
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and I'd rake them over the coals as much as I could for their incredibly unprofessional behavior

stray osprey
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Damn I rejoined this server at a quite sizzling moment

vernal flume
worthy agate
shell lark
shell lark
bitter junco
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I’m just laughing my ass off at how stupid the whole situation is

The kid single handedly exposed his community as being a sweltering shit heap by not taking a breath and just thinking

fickle canyon
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oh yikes

worthy agate
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two busy half days

stray osprey
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Another day at stalker discord

fickle canyon
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yeah i guess the only option is to wait and see what happens

tight stone
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Its messed up honestly

shell lark
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Imma be real i just want misery back on store pages souly because i like the game and have been trying to convince my significant other to purchase the game so we can play together, infact i was planning on gifting it to her today..

tight stone
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Will have to wait and see how it turns out

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yeah I wanted to buy it today and play with my mates just for online coop game

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i just hope it all has a good outcome and everyone cane enjoy all the games that come out

shell lark
worthy agate
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indeed, I do hope this has just been someone trying to make GSC look bad and nothing else.

stray osprey
shell lark
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Actually i think i just thought of another reason it probably wasnt gsc..
The game had multiple demos and playtests that were really big deals, if gsc really wanted it gone they would have snuffed it way earlier

neon vale
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kill people

stray osprey
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kill people

vernal flume
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NOW we talking

shell lark
worthy agate
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thats' a bold statement, but I'm piqued hmm_cheeki

shell lark
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Think about it, you wont be pickpocketed if every pickpocketer is dead

vernal flume
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how it feels to just go back ot playing stalker and not listneing to anything going on right now

worthy agate
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"several people are typing" lol

stray osprey
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So what's you all's favorite snack

shell lark
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There wont be any crime if theres nobody alive to commit crime

shell lark
bitter junco
worthy agate
neon vale
tight stone
shell lark
marsh girder
stray osprey
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Two aussies in chat

neon vale
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kill anglos except brits

shell lark
marsh girder
stray osprey
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I never been to Australia

tight stone
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me too I'm from Australia

tight stone
marsh girder
shell lark
stray osprey
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Oi m8

tight stone
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We are spreading

worthy agate
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big empty country full of criminals and dangerous creatures

marsh girder
shell lark
worthy agate
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australia is basically the hotter zone

neon vale
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if i ever went to australia id go to that big rock

shell lark
stray osprey
shell lark
neon vale
bitter junco
marsh girder
neon vale
shell lark
stray osprey
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Do you guys think I should visit Australia

tight stone
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Yeah we love our asylum camps hey

shell lark
# neon vale

If i hear anyone call it Ayres Rock im going to go psycho

marsh girder
neon vale
worthy agate
shell lark
tight stone
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luckily for me i am in the green part of Australia lol.

stray osprey
marsh girder
worthy agate
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who?

neon vale
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does australia have a gridiron league

shell lark
stray osprey
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Touching grass is great but is Australia a good place to visit. Are the spiders nice.

worthy agate
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the green part is where all the green spiders live

shell lark
tight stone
marsh girder
bitter junco
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Deploying a Gympie Gympie plant

stray osprey
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I love spiders, I think we can be friends

void kelp
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You wouldn't catch me dead in Australia

shell lark
tight stone
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had one in my pool and threw it towards the birds and they killed it\

marsh girder
worthy agate
neon vale
bitter junco
void kelp
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I would rather swim in the water near the Chornobyl plant than set foot in Australia

shell lark
# neon vale then fix it

Afl is way better you can jump off eachothers backs to catch the ball and they aren't cowards no helmets or protection
Also its not scripted/silly

marsh girder
# neon vale then fix it

imagine wearing any form of solid barrier when you could ram each other head on with no protection like real men

tight stone
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you would love it

worthy agate
neon vale
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make a lacrosse league

tight stone
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we have rugby, Union and AFL

shell lark
neon vale
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i could drive to la crosse tomorrow

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i genuinely cant tell if the sport was named after the city or if the city was named after the sport

void kelp
tight stone
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brb going for dinner

marsh girder
neon vale
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magpies?

bitter junco
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Deploy the Cassowary smile_scar

void kelp
marsh girder
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we have birds that can probably tank a .50 cal... spiders are nothing

neon vale
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that bird would unironically tear that guys guts out if he held that shield wrong

stray osprey
marsh girder
void kelp
neon vale
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is rent in australia worse than the states

marsh girder
neon vale
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thats always the third biggest stereotype i hear

megafauna/spiders
christmas in summer
horrific housing crisis

stray osprey
neon vale
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well i cant really call it a stereotype because majority of the time i hear about the housing its FROM australians

void kelp
marsh girder
void kelp
marsh girder
neon vale
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i need to branch out my music playlists for anglo countries, the vast majority are either american or canadian

stray osprey
neon vale
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i think the only australian artist i have in it is slim dusty

marsh girder
void kelp
stray osprey
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Well I mean if you are the collectors type

worthy agate
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ah screw it I'm buying Elin

neon vale
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elin is pretty alright
workshop is too horny for its own good though

worthy agate
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I was kinda iffy on dropping 20 bucks on it but I tried the demo and I think I'm sold

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I couldn't get into elona, but I like elin so far.

neon vale
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it reminded me a bit of dwarf fortress adventure mode

worthy agate
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yeah, or a less autistic, fantasy unreal world

neon vale
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is it procedurally generated

worthy agate
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I'm just a bit concerned about how people say the tax system is kinda overbearing and that there isn't much to do at this point

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which is the reason I wanted to give it a year to develop a little

void kelp
rapid fossil
shell lark
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Really really dumb question, i want to move to a slavic country (by the time hopefully Belarus is no longer a puppet state ik most of the people want the current guy out so a coup is a possibility, if not post war Ukraine), and alot of yall would be slavs, what slavic language is a good launchpad into others? Ik theyre all really similar so ill probably end up learning like two, just what should i go for first??
This is silly just don't laugh at me 😭

stray osprey
void kelp
shell lark
neon vale
neon vale
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i wouldnt hold out hope on ever moving to any east slav country though

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and west slavs are boring, so south slavs are the way to go

stray osprey
neon vale
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bonus points because if you learn serbian you will understand croatian

worthy agate
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my boss speaks russian but he says ukranian is almost like a different language. I'm assuming it's a bit like english and german, they're not really interchangeable but knowing one helps with the other

void kelp
stray osprey
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Can give you the web tho anyways if you still want

neon vale
gaunt prawn
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Ua is closer to polish and Belarusian

worthy agate
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yeah he always says there's a lot of polish in there

gaunt prawn
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And other Slavic languages mostly

shell lark
worthy agate
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if there's one thing from the fact that stalker 2's english dub is so abysmal is that I've actually learned a tiny bit of ukranian from playing it lol

shell lark
neon vale
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if i ever moved to a slav country it would either be poland or slovenia

shell lark
neon vale
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i love the accents, it shows that people from all the globe are in the zone, just represented by different english accents

shell lark
neon vale
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how much heritage, most countries dont give citizenship for heritage unless its a DIRECT line (grandparent was a national)

shell lark
shell lark
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I cant remember if he lived in prussia or poland, he was in a town close to the border tho

neon vale
shell lark
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This is if my grandma didn't misremember, she told me all this abt a twar and a half ago

fallow briar
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Sup guys

neon vale
fallow briar
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How are y'all doing?

stray osprey
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coping

shell lark
neon vale
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im basing my knowledge on norway which gives citizenship if a grandparent was born there

neon vale
shell lark
shell lark
neon vale
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i think the different english accents are supposed to mirror with slavic ones

stray osprey
gaunt prawn
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He was much worse...

shell lark
gaunt prawn
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He was a MARINE

neon vale
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oorah

shell lark
gaunt prawn
stray osprey
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is the crayon eating universal

shell lark
neon vale
gaunt prawn
shell lark
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Im convinced the only reason Coupons are used over Hryvnia is because the average english speaker cannot pronounce it, which is true i couldnt for a while tbh

fallow briar
neon vale
shell lark
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Has anyone else noticed those little dolls hidden everywhere aroind stalker 2??

neon vale
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i dont like they changed it from kupons to coupons, kupon is the transliteration (and actual name of currency i think), and calling it "coupon" makes it sound generic, like calling a sci-fi currency "credits"

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also because kupon looks cooler

shell lark
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Brb imma have a bath

neon vale
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unless im hallucinating or they changed it back (i havent played since 1.1-1.3 i forgot when)

void kelp
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Weird. Guess I never noticed cause it’s till got the “K” letter for the currency

stray osprey
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I always thought it was with the K, so they actually changed it? I thought I was going schizo.

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I haven't played in a long while either

worthy agate
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must be some australian thing

knotty girder
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Did these guys talk about changing from koupons to coupons in Stalker 2?

knotty girder
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“K” as it was on release and remains

neon vale
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huh

knotty girder
stray osprey
knotty girder
neon vale
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its more correct from a translation standpoint but more generic

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"coupons" is a really common term for fictional currency and keeping it as kupon wouldve given it flair

stray osprey
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If there was even a change don't think I would have notice, I don't really play the game in English.

knotty girder
stray osprey
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Speaking of, I think I will try starting up the game again. Last attempt was unsuccessful

tiny dew
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Why he's out on Twitter telling people to kill themselves, lol

stray osprey
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Failed once again, game won't even load up correctly.

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Kwezzin is that you? Different name.

tiny dew
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I'm already lvl 12 Bamboo but the frikkin game system broke

stray osprey
tiny dew
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Whats quacking there on your end, good sir?

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Also why it says you're new now, yo left?

stray osprey
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I came back for the emotes

tiny dew
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You are shitting me

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No way in Cordon you left Zaton..... TO COME BACK ON...................

stray osprey
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I don't feel like I have anything to contribute to this server nowadays

tiny dew
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Same but...

stray osprey
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Amongst other reasons

tiny dew
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I'm keeping the entertainment going

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I kinda left 100 rads for a year now if I leave STOCtown... I'll crumble!

stray osprey
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Well as long as you are here than I am staying I suppose

tiny dew
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To be HONEYst...

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I have almost 150 servers I'm on but I only use Discord for STOCtown

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After all this is my church where I heal my hurts

stray osprey
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This the server I was also active in when I first joined back in November 2024.

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Interest kind of fell off by now I guess, but I have been trying to play the trilOG recently

tiny dew
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You keep grinding. I burned out on the trilogy. Played so much both Steam version and DVD versions...

stray osprey
tiny dew
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Back to Rogue Encampment, wtf

stray osprey
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really buggin out

tiny dew
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You took out all my inventory and left me with just 2 healing potions....

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AND 1 FRIKKIN TOWN PORTAL?

I'm gonna aaaaaaaaaah myself

neon vale
tiny dew
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Imagine you tell someone to kill himself and he does it, lmao. It'll be with you forever!

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Also PiratNation is just reposter

tiny dew
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Howzit going, Techno maniac? @void kelp

void kelp
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Bouta be counting sheep soon

shell lark
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Hey i got a response from the MISERY dev regarding pro russian things being said in his discord, am i able to send a screenshot of his response here? It isnt to fuel the fire, he actually had an admittedly snappy response but said vaugely implied hes not pro Russian idk im getting mixed messages from it

void kelp
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Hbu Mewthree Level One

shell lark
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Tec, am i able to dm you the screenshot then you post it?

void kelp
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Yeah sure, ig I’ll see how bad it be

knotty girder
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It's offtop do what you want

shell lark
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Sorry it took ao long to send i had to verify im human LOLOL

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I did send it tho

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This was the response from the MISERY dev, we had a bit more back and forth after this but it was just him thanking me and me thanking him

void kelp
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🔥

desert folio
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🔥

lofty ocean
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wondering how far is too far for themhmm_cheeki
i mean having full chat of people who openly support genocide, laughin with them together, enabling them, not having any rules and accepting such a behavior is seemingly ok for the dev. Also asking forgiveness from russian people because of this mess

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cool guy ngl

tiny dew
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How much people bought that thing before it was taken down? I guess those 5 people are malding atm

tiny dew
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300 thousand?

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Data taken off SteamDB?

shell lark
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Dev said that in a steam announcement thing

tiny dew
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You cant trust what those guys say - I checked SteamSpy, page is private (lol). Nothin on SteamDB.

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Doesn't seem a game worth more than 3 euro, honestly speaking. Talking all that copyright stuff aside, ofc.

shell lark
tiny dew
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Also still wonder how this thang is done in Unreal and it looks worse than 1998 game... Damn, takes talent!

desert folio
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At $8.99 its a good chunk of change

shell lark
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Play it before you form an opinion LOL

tiny dew
shell lark
desert folio
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It isnt minecraft bruh that is stalcraft

tiny dew
shell lark
tiny dew
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Unity seems like more fitting

shell lark
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Mate, unreal is actually a super versatile game engine, have you ever made a game

tiny dew
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I'd be fine if somebody made an actual open world isometric STALKER-spired game tbh

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TOo much FPS survival shooters these days, way too much

tiny dew
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Its open world?

shell lark
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Whats it like

tiny dew
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You a game dev, bredda?

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Its Commandos-inspired if you know what that is

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Commandos FTW!

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Anyways what up with Misery lately, they declined all the "accusations" of using stolen assets?!

shell lark
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I do not, isnt it a turn based game?

tiny dew
shell lark
tiny dew
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So nothing actually coming off GSC in the release build?

shell lark
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Its deep in the files but not actually in the game itself, you cant find any gsc made assets walking around iirc, you have to really delve into the files, its just stuff the dev used as a placeholder and forgot to delete

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If i recall correctly that is

tiny dew
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Well thats plagiarism no matter what, if its present... if it was only named folders without content, that would be hella lot different use case

shell lark
tiny dew
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But how did people found them things in release build?
I may or not be wrong

shell lark
tiny dew
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Who is to blame here then?

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GSC for being Evil Genius or "whatever that developer is called" not being smart enough not to get caught into something?

shell lark
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Literally nobody, dev didnt do anything wrong, gsc probably didnt even file the strike themselves, they are known to be very lax with their ip, probably some rouge actor

tiny dew
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Damn

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Alright what do you think will happen from now on? Misery rebrands to something else and moves on?

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After all we all remember The Day Before case.... smile_degtyarev

shell lark
tiny dew
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You can't be someone random and file a DMCA strike on behalf of 3rd entity.

shell lark
tiny dew
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Guess it's someone from over at GSC who doesnt want to reveal his actual name
Sounds right

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Could be anyone from the community managers for all we know, could be the janitor...

shell lark
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I dont think it was gsc mate dkud

tiny dew
shell lark
shell lark
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⚠️LEAKED PHOTO OF PERSON WHO FILED DMCA⚠️

tiny dew
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Nope
Here is the actual photo of the leaker

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Anyways

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How do you find S2, breddaman? 0/10? 8/10?

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Good game? Mid game? Trash game? Worthless piece of snork filth?

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Mans gone off the grid

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Whats your relationship with the Zone, strangerman @shell lark ?

white summit
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For Czech the closest is definitely Slovak and then Polish probably

white summit
shell lark
tiny dew
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How do you rate S2 thou?

shell lark
tiny dew
shell lark
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Good game under all the rough

cinder leaf
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While we're talking video games, keep an eye out very soon for a s.t.a.l.k.e.r. style game like wasteland/bg3/mutant: year zero

urban coral
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Sounds based tbh

cinder leaf
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all im gonna say is anomalies are a little tough for a "point and click" type of game

shell lark
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IM GONNA END IT ALL DAWG

cinder leaf
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outplayed

shell lark
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THIS WAS LIKE A 30M LONG GASLIGHTING SESSION DAWG THEY GOT ME

cinder leaf
shell lark
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Reordering images hold on

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I MESSED UP THE ORDERING AGAIN

urban coral
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Bruh

heavy crown
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Yeah that’s kinda lame

stray osprey
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"if I was a Z tard I would also be sending those crap right"

And yet he enabled those types of shit to be sent around only till it "became a problem" to him.

velvet coyote
# shell lark

Btw if i remember right vilzipop reposted z-tard and blocked us when we ask NOT do that

wintry lily
tepid matrix
shell lark
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Running a 3060, Ryzen 5 3600x, 16GB DDR4, not the best but definitely should be able to get a stable 60fps at the lowest settings with dlss set to quality or off

tepid matrix
shell lark
tepid matrix
shell lark
tepid matrix
shell lark
tepid matrix
shell lark
tepid matrix
shell lark
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Im gonna goto sleep now, its 1:30am i have class in thw morning and i need to be up by 6..
Goodnight, i hope you have a lovely day/evening

spice valley
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A snake walks into a bar

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The bartender takes one look at him and says:

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"How did you do that"

languid shard
tropic pumice
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get out, you got the wrong discord server

worthy agate
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the what

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ynow, I'm not even gonna bother.

thorn cove
twin cairn
thorn cove
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This is very dead server I see

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Since I left, hmm

granite kite
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Anomaly and Gamma: Guess we don’t exist then.

twin cairn
granite kite
thorn cove
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I forgot that Anomaly is now on GoG

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Anyways I was Ex-Mod here, God forbid being Discord mod.

twin cairn
thorn cove
stray osprey
thorn cove
stray osprey
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Am I dreaming

bitter hearth
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sparrowhauk!

thorn cove
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yes it's meeee

bitter hearth
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welcome back!

stray osprey
twin cairn
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@stray osprey🫂

thorn cove
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Welcome back for not being Discord mod

stray osprey
thorn cove
thorn cove
stray osprey
stray osprey
thorn cove
thorn cove
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I bet mods seein us

twin cairn
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Mods looking at us rn

stray osprey
twin cairn
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Cats are truly peak

thorn cove
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it is peak

stray osprey
thorn cove
stray osprey
thorn cove
stray osprey
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damn wait gif didn't save correctly

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Interesting, it's not letting me steal this one

thorn cove
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because it's sticker

stray osprey
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Normally I can steal stickers and emojis

thorn cove
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from Emoji server

stray osprey
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Send another one from different server

thorn cove
stray osprey
thorn cove
stray osprey
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erm akchully, that's a goose

twin cairn
stray osprey
thorn cove
twin cairn
stray osprey
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shrok

thorn cove
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btw where is this server's stickers? only Strelok one exist

forest hull
tender dust
tiny dew
thorn cove
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I miss those days

stray osprey
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When was it ever based?

bitter hearth
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at one point in time

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you look delicious!

thorn cove
stray osprey
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I'm probably rotting at this point

thorn cove
violet kestrel
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@minor violet Can you calrify your position a little bit? Hope you are not trying to play both sidez and this is just a mistake.

thorn cove
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Talking this again....

stray osprey
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Real question: do you all's level of certainity take a U-turn sometimes? I feel like it's difficult to escape reality even just for a minute nowadays.

thorn cove
bitter hearth
minor violet
void kelp
stray osprey
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I just feel like, personally, it's hard to pretend when those who are closest to you are either gone or high chance of not making it to next year. I wish I can have even a moment of peace for like 2 minutes or something. Feels impossible for it to happen.

violet kestrel
stray osprey
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Hell, I wouldn't even mention such things here if I wasn't hanging by the thread right now. I think, I have my bird at least. I don't know who to turn to these days.

violet kestrel
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When nintendo last time DMCAed someone how supported war against Japan?

minor violet
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Half the time I read the comments so fast. If you have seen any of my videos over the past three months I am team Ukraine providing full manual Ukraine subtitles for easy viewing and supporting anyone going through a rough time. Don’t paint me out to be the bad guy.

Just reporting on the situation but it is the last video on this now.

thorn cove
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He is just doing classic Youtuber stuff

minor violet
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I support many people from the Ukraine

violet kestrel
minor violet
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sorry if it comes across that way.

violet kestrel
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I am not trying to paint you bad just wanted clarification.

heavy crown
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Everybody is entitled to an opinion

minor violet
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I got Russian bot attacked last month trust me I am on your side

thorn cove
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back to...

minor violet
thorn cove
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

minor violet
bitter hearth
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try and talk to someone, anyone close to you or such, it really helps, isolation kinda adds onto that and it stacks up

merry ember
nocturne olive
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What happened to based

merry ember
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is he not here or smthn

neon vale
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he said something the UA mods really didnt like

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and got banned

thorn cove
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yeah

neon vale
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he got banned for "provocations" after saying some stuff about the red-black flag that someone must NOT have liked

nocturne olive
neon vale
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he said something along those lines i think

nocturne olive
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I agree with him on that but I don’t want to have any arguments lol this isn’t a political server

thorn cove
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Getting banned in 3... 2... 1...

earnest inlet
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(Reposting from #☢┃stalker-general since mods said to end it and move the convo here:)

Here's my personal take of the whole situation:

Frankly, I remain somewhat skeptical about the whole thing, both the idea that the takedown is frivolous and an "abuse of power" by GSC, and the idea that the takedown and evidence presented are even legitimate to being with.

A few factors that have me skeptical as to the takedown's legitimacy:

  • There's at least one known incident in the past where someone/a group was posing and GSC and sending out fraudulent takedowns on YouTube or something along those lines. (I can't remember the specific details of this one, sorry.)

  • It's inconsistent with GSC's track record regarding the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. IP; they've been incredibly lenient when it comes to this kind of stuff in the past. I think either the MISERY dev really f'd up and genuinely used stolen assets, or this whole thing is meant as some weird publicity stunt for his game and/or as a smear campaign against GSC.

  • The email and document that have been presented as evidence quite frankly don't look authentic to me. For what is supposed to be an official DMCA/cease-and-desist, it looks very sloppy and unprofessional. For one thing, why are both images (the email and the form) so heavily cropped? Notice how they're cropped in a way that would prevent us from seeing both the sending email and the reply-to address. Then look at the bizarrely slapdash placement of the screenshots in the email. I know people have said that it aligns with real Steam DMCA's they've seen, but if that's the case then it probably isn't very hard to find screenshots or even a template that look like the real thing. DMCA's and the like are well known to be very easy to fake.

(Have two more to post but I ran out of characters, bear with me.)

neon vale
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the misery thing keeps coming up and every time it comes to the exact same conclusion that it was probably a rogue actor

earnest inlet
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(Continued from this post: #💬┃en_offtop message)

  • In the alleged legal form that we're shown, why is Olga Yakovlenko's email listed with a "stalker2.com" URL? While that is a legitmate, GSC-owned URL, it's the game's website, not the company's website. Additionally, on GSC's company website, all of the listed contact emails have a "gsc-game.com" URL. Why would the official legal representative of a company have the game site's URL for their email and not the company site URL?

  • I remember someone else on the subreddit bringing this up, but the timing of this whole situation is rather suspicious too. Isn't it rather convenient that all of this is happening right during the lead-up to S2's PS5 release? While I recognize that this is conspiratorial thinking, I do think the timing is worth taking note of.

Don't worry, that's it from me on this whole thing. I just wanted to share my thoughts since I spent a good amount of time digging deeper into the situation.

stray osprey
thorn cove
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first glance I mistaken this as Skyrim

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God dammit Todd Howard

stray osprey
void kelp
stray osprey
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Killed the glintstone dragon recently

void kelp
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noice. The undead dragons in shadow of the Erdtree are the worst

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Unless you got a beefy holy weapon

earnest inlet
nocturne olive
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A lot of the misery server shіt seems to be ironic z which is eh

merry ember
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this discord drama getting serious

earnest inlet
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Is it? It seems like most people have moved on, determined that it's probably not actually GSC, and are simply waiting for their official response.

merry ember
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i’m being ironic, I actually have no idea what’s going on

earnest inlet
stray osprey
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Sleeping shrimps

earnest inlet
stray osprey
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Just your typical shrimp behavior

merry ember
stray osprey
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It seems like to me it just happened

merry ember
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i have not heard of MISERY on steam

earnest inlet
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It kinda just happened. I think the first mention of it (at least on the subreddit), was...two days ago or so? Friday I think.

earnest inlet
stray osprey
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They are just ominously staring at me from the distance

earnest inlet
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They're waiting to see what you do.

merry ember
stray osprey
earnest inlet
stray osprey
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Such is life

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He had an interesting cart wheel attack tho

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Looks like everyone else left after that

neon vale
stray osprey
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Bro why do they look like ET

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Evolved ET

heavy crown
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Until all this madness happened anyway

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I clued up a bit after to find out wth we were dealing with lol

earnest inlet
violet kestrel
earnest inlet
violet kestrel
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Anyway I wish to the misery miserable fate)

bitter junco
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If it is a smear campaign, the guy is going to be in deep shit

earnest inlet
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I'm surprised the devs of the MISERY mod didn't go after him, though I'm not sure if a mod can be defended for copyright.

violet kestrel
bitter junco
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Also supposedly he nuked a shit load of his discord so another reason this shit doesn’t pass the Sniff Test smile_scar

nocturne olive
violet kestrel
nocturne olive
urban coral
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Let's keep the politics out of here, no matter what it is about cat

neon vale
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#💬┃ua_offtop message

violet kestrel
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Oh damn I already have note on the anton to remind me what the person it is

neon vale
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what is it

queen moat
violet kestrel
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So it is not a surprise he is defending z-friends

neon vale
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what is the note

violet kestrel
nocturne olive
nocturne olive
stray osprey
bitter spruce
nocturne olive
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anyways Id rather not discuss politics in a server about a video game

urban coral
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Thanks, let's leave it at that smile_degtyarev

nocturne olive
bitter junco
urban coral
urban coral
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People hate to listen to the truth anyways

gray jetty
worthy agate
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emotions are high, and there's factors that could understandably make some people kneejerk in one direction

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but its' a perfect example as to why politics are strictly forbidden on this server under normal circumstances

stray osprey
worthy agate
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so elin didn't pan out, unfortunately

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I should have stuck to the demo until I was 100% sure I wanted to buy it

nocturne olive
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I used my attrocious ukrainian 😔

stray osprey
worthy agate
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got this out of it so hey

stray osprey
nocturne olive
void kelp
nocturne olive
stray osprey
void kelp
stray osprey
# void kelp

Funny how I was so close to using that image you have as your pfp

stray osprey
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Close, but without the beaver

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Sad I can't use the Nimble mod

void kelp
stray osprey
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I'm on pc, but only reason I can't mod anything for S2 is because I have to use geforce now to play.

void kelp
stray osprey
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It's cloud gaming, I don't think you can. But the only game I know that lets you mod things through cloud gaming is BG3. Haven't tried it tho.

craggy geyser
stray osprey
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Wait a minunte

void kelp
stray osprey
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Your name rings a bell

void kelp
void kelp
stray osprey
craggy geyser
stray osprey
short trellis
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hmm. reading comments on a reddit link that had been posted in Stalker General earlier and someone mentions being curious about the email that was listed in the supposed DMCA mail.

stray osprey
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my mind is blown I didn't realize it was you

void kelp
void kelp
stray osprey
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I hope you don't realize what my blog is, because it has seen better days lately dread

nocturne olive
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poleshuks control the weather

void kelp
stray osprey
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erm

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I think it's better this way

void kelp
stray osprey
void kelp
# stray osprey

I usually try to support others on Tumblr, but if you want to keep your blog private, that's totally okay. My blog is all over the place 😂

stray osprey
void kelp
short trellis
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hmmm....why does the email shown on Reddit have a part that refers to Misery, as a podcast? 🤔

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"which is why we consider the entire podcast to be an infringing deliverable."

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the email of whomever that Olga person is also just seems strange like they're not a new person for GSC from what i could read yet the mail attached is "Oyakovlenko@stalker2.com" like why the stalker2 is she's like, working for the company as a whole

bitter junco
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Whoever did is just gonna hear ‘found you’ as a Monolithian in a diamond exo full on plows through their wall once they get caught

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Like, this is genuinely the stupidest DMCA email I’ve seen either way, real or not

short trellis
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it just feels really like, unofficial lol.

bitter junco
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It’s sloppily put together by someone who clearly isn’t a professional lawyer smile_scar

short trellis
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and apparently the guy used chat GPT to write an apology letter too

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not that it has to do with the DMCA but, it's lame

bitter junco
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Wait idea:
do an AI check on the Email smile_strelok

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That’s not what transformative work is kid

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It needs to be distinctive enough to not be a rip

short trellis
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i've also now read that people are saying the song Dirge for the planet is also in the game.

bitter junco
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Yeah if Dirge is there, he’s screwed completely smile_scar

stray osprey
short trellis
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well iirc GSC doesn't own that

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Firelake would.

void kelp
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They still need a license either way

desert folio
bitter junco
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Yeah cause if this reveals he straight ripped the song, now he’s likely pissed off Firelake

neon vale
worthy agate
desert folio
short trellis
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so he had Dirge for the Planet and another guitar song in there.

worthy agate
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I mean you could do it, but I'm fairly sure it wouldn't stand to scrutiny

bitter junco
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The email is so unprofessional it veers completely into Parody and stupidity smile_scar

short trellis
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i've read people saying that "stalker gate" thing wasn't ripped but others said that some of the details on it would have been a pain to recreate yet they're there which prolly wouldn't like, match that the game's all pixels?

bitter junco
desert folio
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If theres a million easter eggs and homages when does it start being malicious?

neon vale
worthy agate
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here's the thing though, if the dmca was due to songs and/or stolen assets, why did the misery guy show the two downright idiotic and unfounded examples he put on his discord?

desert folio
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Nonetheless, hes removing the majority

short trellis
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i woulda just like, made it a picture in the game i think if it was me.

neon vale
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it was likely some random guy that DMCAd the game and used the most dubious reasoning like "likeness" so it wouldnt just get immediately dismissed

worthy agate
short trellis
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honestly i really hope that GSC will actually respond publicly to it because it is really just not looking nice on them until they do even with the doubts that we have about the things that dev has shown.

coarse rapids
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Firelake released Dirge for the Planet before joining GSC, the accoustic version is under GSC, I dont think the other one is tho

worthy agate
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someone either wanted to screw over the misery dev, or wanted to make gsc look bad. Or both, ig.

coarse rapids
neon vale
worthy agate
short trellis
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idk a whole lot of like, youtube channels that would report this type of thing but i saw Bigfry was on it and he's got a good following i think.

worthy agate
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like they didn't even reach out to the misery developer for confirmation, much less to gsc, it is appalling

desert folio
bitter junco
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I’m hoping GSC brings fire and fury to this kinda shit, stuff like this isn’t something the impersonator should be able to just walk away from with a giggle

neon vale
desert folio
worthy agate
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it is a good idea to double check anything you might see on dave's channel.

desert folio
bitter junco
coarse rapids
desert folio
bitter junco
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He’s a good dude, he just gets a bit gung ho at times

worthy agate
short trellis
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i've not seen any of his videos in ages like months and i was never a follower of his but it was a name i remembered lol

coarse rapids
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I dont think anybody would argue Stalcrafts existance and success is wholly separated from Stalker, but GSC hasnt done anything to them

worthy agate
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he's not a bad guy, but I would advise not relying solely on what he reports, at least for now

short trellis
worthy agate
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there was a big drama, and I'm sure he's putting an effort on avoiding mistakes in the future, but with such a sensitive topic as this entire clown show I'd definitely double check anything I saw on his end.

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I mean when "respectable" "news" sites like the escapist are acting like absolute bozos about it, there's no such thing as too much double checking

bitter junco
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Game journalists are rarely respectable smile_scar

worthy agate
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and of course bigfry and kira and all the dramatubers will be rubbing their grubby little grabbers at the prospect of getting on their little soapboxes

short trellis
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i'll be disappointed if it turns out GSC is the bad guy on top of the issues that Stalker 2 had and has.

bitter junco
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Apparently Bigfry has only played a bit of anomaly too so I wouldn’t trust his reporting on Stalker period smile_scar

cold pike
stray osprey
desert folio
worthy agate
short trellis
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like i really really hope they'll go out there and clear their name if they truly did no wrong.

worthy agate
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if gsc pulled a nintendo, particularly if the real motivation was political or personal bias, I'm going to be very disappointed in them.

cold pike
short trellis
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unrelated to this but i heard when there was a some ukrainian company that stopped working with some Vtuber for having said things about some russian vtuber that was then later found out to be in the gov or something. meanwhile they still worked with Genshin or something where there was a Russian thing connected to that. that had people feeling like they were absolutely not being fair.

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would be sad if GSC is like that too.

stray osprey
cold pike
bitter junco
stray osprey
worthy agate
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Whatever reason a company has to associate or dissociate themselves from another company or individual it's up to them tbh

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it's their business, they can do whatever they want (as long as it's legal ofc)

short trellis
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man it's kind of depressing reading the Reddit comments on it lmao. soooo many people are just immediately on the bandwagon against GSC for things like "the dev made a better game" and other things.

worthy agate
#

the accusations against gsc are more severe, from a moral standpoint at least

cold pike
stray osprey
short trellis
worthy agate
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I have no clue about that situation, I don't know who's the company, who's the vtuber, and how it went down so I can't give an opinion. But this is kinda different since it's about a company taking down another one's product out of the blue (allegedly)

short trellis
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different yeah but it's a type of behaviour i don't want to see GSC mirror

cold pike
worthy agate
#

but regardless, anyone who takes a blind stance with either of the two entities caught in this shitshow right now is being disingenuous. I understand being cautiously hopeful for one side or the other I guess, but some people are going head on one side or the other.

stray osprey
void kelp
#

Burgchurg

cold pike
coarse rapids
#

unfortnuanly, tejas, gamers in 2010 complained about New Vegas performance and crashing

void kelp
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And it still crashes to this day 😂

cold pike
stray osprey
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
stray osprey
void kelp
# cold pike

So true or just sit back and watch it all unfold

mortal nexus
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
stray osprey
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
#

Honestly, what is happening right now? 😂😂🤣

cold pike
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
stray osprey
#

I ran out of random game screenshots to send

void kelp
cold pike
fair fog
void kelp
stray osprey
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
fair fog
#

my all time favorite STALKER 2 bug is bandits sometimes snoring after I shoot them dead

cold pike
# stray osprey

In a longer game, Nimble usually dies, running back and forth to the Car Park.
Nimble will usually be killed by a mutant or anomaly in the area between them.

void kelp
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But yet shows back up in other games 😂

cold pike
fair fog
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
fair fog
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
fair fog
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
#

Honestly why is drawing eyes so hard 🙃

cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
stray osprey
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
nocturne olive
#

Barbados should annex mars

void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
#

This is what I really need

cold pike
cold pike
void kelp
void kelp
fair fog
#

lmao I have a pair of slippers that are nearly identical and only cost me 25ish bucks, bro got ripped off.

cold pike
void kelp
#

$125 for slippers is crazy.

#

Waiting for the Clear Sky Nimble mod to come to Xbox be like:

cold pike
void kelp
granite kite
fair fog
cold pike
void kelp
# stray osprey

Honestly, this somewhat goes with this moodboard that I've made 😂

cold pike
stray osprey
cold pike
void kelp
void kelp
stray osprey
fair fog
void kelp
#

Either my sense of humor is broken or I'm tired 😂

cold pike
stray osprey
void kelp
void kelp
stray osprey
void kelp
#

Speaking of beavers

cold pike
void kelp
cold pike
void kelp
grizzled leaf
#

I would have guessed that the concepts of Emissions and anomalies are copyrighted

void kelp
#

Well fellas, here's one last meme for tonight. I must go to bed 😴

cold pike
wary idol
#

Where's my twix bar

rapid fossil
rapid fossil
#

Except being 6 ft tall is a curse for your health since you will run into more spine problems

cold pike
shell lark
#

My dumbass classmates were playing roblox with a pip boy in class today

cold pike
shell lark
stray osprey
#

Found my old Destiny 2 screenshots, apparently I had them saved in a flash drive.

cold pike
# shell lark Worse

It's still Sunday night in the US, why I say that.
I'm assuming if you say class today, it's Monday there.

stray osprey
cold pike
cold pike
shell lark