⭐┃nospoilers_general

[hearty compass]

Dude we really are. I went out to do the poppy field quest, met a guy named Danya Gnat at one of the POIs talking about how he just needed 1 more raid, I did the quest, then went back to Zalissya and I found him again in Zalissya smoking a cigarette.

When I went to the Slag heap for the first time they were fighting some mutants or something too

Now I really just want longer draw distance for online

[hollow pelican]

Where do u get supressor for fora221?

[plain minnow]

Takes the same suppressor as the GP-37 and 416, so the trader in Rostok in the building with the armor trader

[orchid gale]

I can’t wait

All my parts come in tmr

[hollow pelican]

The trader not sellin

[plain minnow]

What?

Oh, just wait till he does

[hollow pelican]

Yeah idk why

[plain minnow]

They don’t always have everything they can possibly sell

[covert stone]

Combat feels a lot better with the AI changes

And a few mods

[orchid gale]

Gimme 1.0 bugs and 1.6 improvements

[covert stone]

Yes I love my audio cutting out and game breaking bugs 😍

[orchid gale]

And people sounding like they are talking through a radio when you are 5 ft infront of them

[covert stone]

Thats funny

[orchid gale]

And random weapons in the inventory

Made so much money off that

[covert stone]

The funny bugs in fine with, the game breaking bugs pmo

[covert stone]

I wasnt fortunate enough for this bug lmao

[orchid gale]

Yeah as long as the story can actually progress and zalissia works gimme the funny bugs

[orchid gale]

It was so fire, I ran out of ammo but a dragonov appeared in my inventory and allowed me to finish the faus fight

Wish maker was 100% smiling upon me

[covert stone]

Cant even enter shevchenko rn unless you jump and climb something you arent meant to

[orchid gale]

They way stalker 2 was intended to be played

[covert stone]

https://medal.tv/games/s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2-heart-of-chornobyl/clips/kFeaj9RJmhDKDiCGa/spok?invite=cr-MSxoakgsMjAxNDUxNTUwLA

@orchid gale this is what I had to do to get to a working entrance 😭

[boreal mountain]

is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 finally playable without being a visual mess?

[orchid gale]

https://tenor.com/view/parkour-theoffice-freerunning-gif-5128248

[boreal mountain]

I can deal with bugs, but the game pissed me off being so blurry

[topaz surge]

nope

[orchid gale]

Hardware issue

[topaz surge]

have you tried glasses?

[covert stone]

You can get mods to make the forest and lumen look better

[orchid gale]

Stalker 2 looks great tbh also has since launch

[boreal mountain]

Idk I got a 3060TI 8 gbVRAM, 32gb Ram DDR4, AMD Ryzen 5 5500.

The game looks good, but everything is still blurry

[covert stone]

There have been massive issues with shadows flickering (particularly on foliage) and the lighting indoors has been horrendous

[orchid gale]

Well yeah, you are using dlss at 1080p it’s gonna be blurry

[boreal mountain]

Since when was this a bad option? This is most peoples settings...

[covert stone]

I play at 1440p and even at native I get these issues

[orchid gale]

Dlss at 1080 is just blurry in general, I’m not saying its bad just that it’s gonna be blurry is all

[covert stone]

This game can still be blurry at 1440p tho

[orchid gale]

Oh yeah the lightings been buggy forgot about that

[covert stone]

Mainly in the distance

[orchid gale]

Really?!?

Oh yeah at distance that’s why there’s no binocs 😎

[covert stone]

I mean like 20 meters in front of me too lmao

[orchid gale]

Motion blur go brrrrr

[boreal mountain]

eh then do I play HellDivers 2 or Gray Zone Warfare for now then.

[covert stone]

No motion blur for me

[orchid gale]

Just turn off dlss or turn upscaling up to quality instead of performance

[covert stone]

I don't mind it personally as mods have basically fixed the main lighting issues outdoors anyway

The better forests mod is 🔥

[orchid gale]

Damn yeah I never noticed blurriness at 1440 I always thought the game looked amazing

[boreal mountain]

I just find it said the community had to fix this game...

I know the devs are still cooking and there is still a war between ukraine and Russia so im not harsh on em like other games, I just cant wait until this game gets the same love their putting into the trilogy edition

[orchid gale]

Every stalker game has had the community fix it haha

This one is significantly better then the other 3

[boreal mountain]

idk the original works just fine imo

[orchid gale]

Hell nah buggy asf

Gimme soc mods or gimme death

[shut cosmos]

My only issue with it rn is it being horrendous to look at

Its super grainy

[zinc apex]

Stalker 2 > SoC

[worthy lagoon]

lie

[naive goblet]

truth.

But what defines superiority

are we measuring how good a game is by its story, core gameplay, graphics, physics, or something else?

is it a combination of all these factors and measurements?

[worthy lagoon]

I like SoC graphics

[naive goblet]

but now we need an objective measure for what makes what aspect superior

[fair jackal]

i do like 2 but it just doesn't feel nearly as done as what i felt the trilogy had been when i got around to play those like 2 years or so ago.

[hollow pelican]

I like story of 2 but the problem I find is that u dont know wtf is going on until u complete half of the game especially when u havent played the triology and directly jumped on 2

[nimble cipher]

som5251 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow pelican]

As in why zone exist how mutants formed what is scanner artifact who are these factions why people live in a bad place like zone and not in a nice place etc

But KCD 2 solves this approach pretty well when they summarise whole story of 1st game in begining

Probably a narrator type of opening like elden ring and explaining what is goin on with lore would have helped

[hardy bear]

Yeah you really do need background knowledge to make any sense of it

[past basalt]

1.5.1 game crashes now during ~30 mins of play, no mods.

[static compass]

It helps a little that Skif is also new to the zone

He's never been there before

So a newcomer to the series would be just as blind as Skif is

[hardy bear]

It makes sense narratively but if 75% of the game consists of recurring characters and locations it can be a little too much

Heck, I don’t think there was a way to even know the name of the mutants you kill cause there’s no encyclopaedia of any kind

Unless a quest npc mentions it when you fight one for them

[shut cosmos]

So is the 1911 the best pistol, cuz its doing crazy damage for me

[shut cosmos]

I dont think thats a negative at all tbh

[hollow pelican]

Just a personal opinion nothing to criticise otherwise

[worn oar]

I believe that it should be in game like trilogy. Hopefully, the devs will add it in future updates

[azure crystal]

I’m confused, when I play stalker after 1.5 update, I still see spawning enemies. Or clusters of AI spawning together then battling? I thought all this was fixed?

I’m starting to think if it’s best I put this game down and wait another 6 months

[zenith creek]

They're trying to fix it but as long as the AI render distance is shorter than the geometry render distance you'll still see it

[nimble cipher]

artem_20202030 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith creek]

So far what I think they've done is push the spawns out toward the edges of the 100m bubble, but it's still a 100m bubble

[winter stump]

Unreal 5.5 limitations.

[azure crystal]

I understand they’re trying to fix it. I’m just gutted when it happens after they’ve said in the patch notes it’s fixed.

[tired zephyr]

Does anyone know why the shevchenko doors wont open?

[static compass]

Known bug

Try traveling away and coming back

[tired zephyr]

Ok thx

[shut cosmos]

Cuz of the render distance

[celest blaze]

5.1*

Stalker 2 uses a custom fork of 5.1

[fallen stratus]

they should have use the original engine there wouldnt have been that much problems

[winter stump]

Oh yeah, you're right. So even worse.

[tacit vigil]

I like Stalker 2 map so far, but there is a fair bit of empty space between POIs. I'm just gonna wait for the ATV mod.

[dense jackal]

Get to walking stalker

[supple wedge]

The rise of the armchair devs.

[tacit vigil]

Lol was kidding about the ATV.

[naive goblet]

if i have 2 engine.ini optimisation mod files what do i do

as in both optimisation mods have the engine.ini file

[supple wedge]

Do they have the same commands in them?

[naive goblet]

if they do do i delete one and keep the other?

assuming they don’t do i just paste both in engine.ini

[supple wedge]

You can paste both in the same engine ini, but you might end up running into compatibility issues

Half of those engine ini mods just seem to be people throwing stuff at the wall.

[naive goblet]

damn…

[supple wedge]

Some apparently have lots of commands that just don't exist in the engine. I can't verify, but I've seen plenty of people call that stuff out on nexus.

Digital foundry did a comparison with oblivion remastered (also ue5) vanilla vs an optimisation ini and found it ran worse with the mod.

[worthy zodiac]

Nah, they didn't do anything with that, really. They just made them NPCs spawn a little bit farther from you but the spawner is still spawning everything around you, more or less same as before, creating all these scenarios that feel forced and fake. They mostly addressed the issues of NPCs despawning and not being able to move/interact with each other in offline (when they aren't rendered in)

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/frogger-2020-frogger2020-frog-truck-gif-17125101

[mint helm]

Is it normal to get PSI-radiation randomly and It's doesn't go away ?

[wraith socket]

It depends on where you go, how long you are there, what your suit is and if you have the medicine for it.

[mint helm]

I know there are Psi-Anomalies - I had the Psi-Radiation on me from Brain scorcher (Death Road to Rostok). I had to save and load for it to go away.

[placid spade]

PSI effects are kinda blur and they are disappearing when you had left the area where they are present. In Pripyat there is a former store with PSI, glas shreds and winds, as long as you are staying into that building, you got PSI affected, no matter how high your suit is anti-PSI equipped or how many pills you may take.

[mint helm]

Interesting - It was like the after effect of when a controller pulls you - But more like illusion npc's spawing and shooting you.

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-creepy-big-eyes-window-car-gif-5269586942332992151

[zinc apex]

pseudodogs in stalker 2 are freakin worst

[sly matrix]

With a properly planned sneak attack and some burst damage you can down em before they become a real issue

Also helps to look for blood splatters when trying to find the real one between the copies

[nimble cipher]

ponosik_1526 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

ponosik_1526 has been banned

Reason: scam

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[nimble cipher]

moshegoyan has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

moshegoyan has been banned

Reason: scam

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

-# Who's next

[naive goblet]

how i run with exosuit

[zinc apex]

you need an upgrade

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[zinc apex]

since alife 1.0 is in the game I love Stalker 2 so much man

[lone aspen]

When will the First dlc comeout btw ?

[dire dagger]

No one knows

[worthy zodiac]

#📸┃screens_and_videos message

Are you sure you weren't talking about this encounter?

[worthy zodiac]

I wouldn't call it A-Life 1.0 yet. The NPCs keep being thrown at you like in Far Cry 2, this is not good

[zinc apex]

you're living in the past man

[nimble cipher]

vision011 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plain minnow]

I haven’t had a far cry style npc encounter in a while

[zinc apex]

Ah man

[zinc apex]

just kidding, there are still fake azz scenarios in the game which you encounter "randomly". Wish they would just remove them and let the NPC walk around

[worthy zodiac]

By "far cry like" I mean that they spawn in your face instead of being natural. Sometimes you can literally follow an empty road, turn around, run for 10-15 seconds and find two squads fighting each other in the place that was empty half a minute ago. It shouldn't be like that...

I'd also like it if there was an actual difference between night time and day time

(If there is one - I don't really notice it, the NPC activity is more or less the same all the time)

I just hope that they'll release some sort of debug tools that let us watch the NPC activity on the map like in CS or like in Anomaly in debug mode. That would help us form the feedback about A-Life, it would also help us notice more bugs with it and make better suggestions

[worthy zodiac]

But yeah, I'm also unironically happy to see the progress that was made in the last two patches (the big ones). Hope they'll keep it up and maybe we'll have a very good game in a year or two

[zinc apex]

there's definitely something happening when they npc are offline. I met Swede wandering around in Cordon just randomly doing stuff until he was eaten by flesh. Also met many many npc that I encountered somewhere else and they changed location

[worthy zodiac]

Designing some actually interesting systems that are fun to interact with is very hard so I hope they won't drop it at some half-baked stage where "it just works" on a basic level without any logic behind it (like it currently does)

[wraith socket]

I don't know where you were trying to forward me. All I saw was an HoC screenshot.

[worthy zodiac]

I've just tried that link again and it is linked to a video that I wanted to show you, not a screenshot. The video is posted at 8:44 pm CET and it's a night HoC video

[worn oar]

Wsup

[wraith socket]

The encounter I was talking about was in Shadow of Chernobyl. I was in Garbage near the sentry hut for the vehicle junkyard. I saw an artifact near the west pile, just north of me. I went to it and as I was about to grab it, a loner near the road started shooting at me. I grabbed it and ran. He did not pursue me. He was just mad I beat him to it.

[flint cliff]

I'm at the beginning of the game, and there's a Warlock side quest that asks me to retrieve an order from the post office. It seems impossible to retrieve the order. Is this a bug or is there a way to retrieve it?

I saw that there is a suspended ceiling in the post office but it is impossible to get into it.

[ripe patrol]

if you cant find the item, just try reloading if you havent already

oh i htink i know this quest maybe. its a locked room?

[flint cliff]

No

[ripe patrol]

then nvm

[flint cliff]

I think is a bug

[north violet]

Yeah I hope the dude's alright. I really liked his videos.

[worthy zodiac]

I hope he is. I was using his vids to see if I want to install the game again or not (after the update)... In the end I had to gamble with 1.5 update, lol

[wraith socket]

Don't you climb on the roof on the outside to get the item?

[flint cliff]

No bug, i found it.

[naive goblet]

will this be playable on PS4

[sweet lintel]

Is Alife working yet?

[dense jackal]

It's better than at release but still not at og stalker levels

[dire dagger]

No

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[orchid gale]

What’s up gamers

Someone make puralator deliver my packages faster or I’m going to start eating elderly people

[wraith socket]

I don't think Puralator is very reliable. Have you tried Purolator?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purolator_Inc.

Actually I would rather you start eating the elderly people. Please post pictures.

[orchid gale]

Yes sir 🫡

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpy-old-man-angry-fussing-gif-1477369178302544256

[worthy zodiac]

The NPCs don't despawn anymore (At least I didn't see a proof of them despawning, it's hard to test something like that in a normal playthrough), they move around the zone when you are far from them... But they still spawn close to you and the game keeps generating fake scenarios that don't feel natural. Combat AI has some issues too (But they try to use covers now and loot the bodies after the fight ends so that's good).

Basically, it's much better than it was before but it's still not on the level of original games (And if we talk about freeplay mods like CotZ or even something like Anomaly - stalker 2 is far from that level of simulation. Currently, that is. I still hope they'll do something even cooler than modded original games did)

[past basalt]

Jeez, in original SOC the NPCs couldn’t even throw grenades.

[naive goblet]

Appeal to emotion

[celest goblet]

Its okay they threw extra grenades in Clear Sky to make up for it

[orchid gale]

Clear sky grenade spam was unruly

[past basalt]

Alife was mostly disabled in SOC too. You guys are reminiscing about a fantasy.

[orchid gale]

Has it been long enough to where we can unban Kysteppin yet?

He was my rock

[celest blaze]

[tacit vigil]

I'm such a tech noob so have no clue, but I wonder how their Unreal 5.1 engine will handle binoculars or sniping with how the geometry is rendered

[lavish ember]

damn pseudo dogs are annoying trying to do the Arena and get to round 2 with pseudo dogs just infinitely creating clones 5 at a time am i missing some easy way to identify the real 1 ?

[ripe patrol]

Probably the same way their long range scopes work so nothing differently

[worthy zodiac]

That's just combat AI, has nothing to do with A-life itself

[worthy zodiac]

Yeah, that's why NPCs didn't despawn and you could even see your assassination targets move around the map when you take these kinds of quests. You could also meet same npcs in different places and the NPCs didn't spawn around you like they do in HoC (for the most part, of course, there are some "gotcha" exceptions).

There were some issues, big ones, especially with all the scripted events like all the bandit meatwaves on garbage BUT denying the existence of A-Life in SoC is just stupid

Even tho original games didn't do a great job with A-Life - fortunately we have modders that managed to do some interesting stuff with it while the developers of Stalker 2 didn't even get it to the level of SoC

[past basalt]

What you are describing is Alife stuff modded into the original games, or enabled by mods.

[worthy zodiac]

I'm talking strictly about vanilla games

You can launch SoC 1.0006, talk to Sidor, take an assassination quest and see how the target moves around the map

(Unless the target is that one scripted NPC that is waiting for you on Rostok because his destiny is to die to a dog in front of you, lol)

[past basalt]

In SOC mission/quest targets don’t despawn. It’s a good illusion of a simulated life. Also the PDA text messages were effective to give the appearance of life. Perhaps S2 should adopt some of those tricks.

[worthy zodiac]

There weren't dynamic PDA messages in SoC, only scripted ones. The dynamic ones (for the faction wars) were introduced in CS.
And no, you are wrong if you imply that only mission/quest NPCs didn't despawn and it's easy to prove that just by playing the game, lol. The maps are very small so if you'll run around you'll keep meeting same people again and again

You are literally trying to paint the game in a bad light by lying about it and I don't understand why. It has sooo many real issues that you could mention (like the one about NPCs not being able to throw grenades), there's no need to lie about the stuff that it HAS achieved (like the NPC persistence)

[past basalt]

It was a great game for it’s time, but it’s best to keep dreaming about the things you thought it did.

[worthy zodiac]

you thought
First of all, I know what it did. That's not just some kind of "subjective opinion" or anything.
Second: it's okay to talk about it and it's okay to ask for more, especially when you KNOW that original game devs managed to do something that Stalker 2 devs didn't (not yet, at least) and when you KNOW that it can be done much better than it was in original games.
What I don't understand is the need for people like you (that don't really care about these systems) to show up and say that "it's best to stop caring". If you want it – feel free to not care. Just don't tell others to stop caring, it's okay to want better things

[celest blaze]

you can literally turn on the game and test this shit for yourself if you dont believe it lol

[celest blaze]

they are in the gamma server so their takes are not all that surprising lol

[naive goblet]

gamma is some ass

[past basalt]

You are aware that the most advanced alife modding for Stalker 2 happens in that server, right?

[worthy zodiac]

And they won't do shіt if GSC themselves won't create some sort of good base for the future mods, unfortunately (And I hope they will). If you think that most of the A-Life features is some kind of miracle that was brought to this world by modders - think again because most of them modded A-Life features in original games are recovered from the code leaks and all the stuff like editing/rewriting the existing code and if the old stalker games didn't have that base to work with - there wouldn't be anything like the stuff we've got in all the modern mods like CotZ and Anomaly. Simple as. Yet again, modders aren't gods and they can't do everything for free and forever, they need a good base. I hope GSC will create that base because otherwise we are doomed, lol

[past basalt]

It doesn’t help the discussion forward by putting the original games on a sky high pedestal. They were far more limited in scope (indeed, small levels, and low numbers of actors). The S2 game could be better, I agree, but not be following the ideas from 2013 (edit: 2007).

[worthy zodiac]

I'm not putting them on a sky high pedestal. I'm just stating a simple fact - HoC isn't there yet. It doesn't put the original games high, it puts HoC itself low. What's so hard to understand? There are many games that have systems that are way more advanced than original stalker games have: from games like mount and blade to games like starsector. I'm not expecting THIS level from Stalker 2 devs. I'm expecting the level of "at least like the features from original games combined. Way better if possible"

[naive goblet]

game old so it can’t be good in terms of AI!!!

receives proof otherwise
but it can’t be because the game is old!!!

[worthy zodiac]

But I won't deny it, they are getting there. Closer and closer with each patch

[naive goblet]

my only criticism about the old games is i don’t like the animations i mean i know theres many problems but the animations are almost unbearable to me

it’s not that they’re bad it just looks so floaty it annoys me

[past basalt]

It’s not hard to understand what you want; I’m saying it”s a dream. Let’s talk about another modern open world game that has systems that come close to the level of simulation you desire.

[worthy zodiac]

Are you trying to make an argument "Don't try to innovate, don't try to make something that wasn't done before"?

[topaz rover]

Hi, is there a mod that removes the NPC X-ray vision through foliage?

[ripe patrol]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1001

[worthy zodiac]

Because if you are - congrats. If the devs would listen to you in 2001-2006 then we wouldn't have stalker games that we all know and love today, lol. We also wouldn't have Anomaly, CotZ, GAMMA, whatever

[topaz rover]

tyvm ❤️

[naive goblet]

do enemies still shoot through walls in S2 maybe some part of my body is sticking out of cover

[worthy zodiac]

Doesn't happen to me (not yet, at least)

[topaz rover]

yes, but it depends on what the cover is made out of

some materials are see through ingame, and others are not

probably a bug

but its been like that since launch

[past basalt]

Are you then saying that the current devs of S2 didn’t try their best to innovate? That your overblown expectations based on ideas in past games that barely worked, are proof that more innovation should have been achieved in S2? Are you aware of the massive increase in scope and detail? You should indeed be happy they are still making steps forward.

[worthy zodiac]

There's nothing overblown in expecting stuff that was done almost 20 years ago. Especially considering that we have indie devs that make systems that are way more complex with much less resources. Stop manipulating.

And no, I'm not saying that the devs weren't trying their best. All I'm saying is that they shouldn't stop here, there's still more to do and I believe they can do that. It would be a waste to stop here and I don't understand why do you want me to stop caring.

Also, not much has changed in terms of scale and details, not when we talk about systems like A-Life, the system has been proven to work just fine in a much bigger scale in mods like Anomaly: it has all the locations from original games and then a little bit more than that, A-Life was extended for free too. What's wrong in asking an AAA studio to make something like that in stalker 2 and then add some more to it?

Not talking about balancing, of course. Talking about the simulation aspect as a whole

[fallen crag]

Hello there! Does anyone know if any further updates to imrpove AI are in plans? Love the game, played trough probably half of it, but just can't continue with current state of AI. Wondering if I should wait till they improve it or if its what it ll look like pretty much going forward

[past basalt]

The future of Alife in S2 is not going to be similar to how it worked 20 years ago in a collection of small levels with a vastly lower number of details in them. It doesn’t make sense to keep saying that things were achieved 20 years ago while the challenge is not similar.

[shut cosmos]

Stalker 2 a life should be alot better than it is but anomaly isnt really much bigger scale than the original games

[round prawn]

does the new update make the same any good to replay again? had to stop playing in january because of all the bugs.

[shut cosmos]

Its been alot less buggy for me

My first playthrough had like 10 different softlocks

And i havent gotten softlocked once yet in my 2nd

[round prawn]

good to know

[shut cosmos]

I mean it can absolutely be better

[worthy zodiac]

The only thing that changes for offline simulation is the amount of NPCs it will have to simulate and how many points of interests there are for them to interact with, nothing else. Because it's the same shіt - you are simulating it on a 2d plane, you don't need to simulate the whole world, lol. What changes is the way combat AI works and stuff like that, we aren't talking about that. We are talking about offline A-Life mostly

[shut cosmos]

Just give me 150m bubble lmao

[worthy zodiac]

I'd say it is bigger, considering that it is x2 as big as any of the games from the trilogy and that it uses ALL of the locations for A-Life simulation (Meanwhile in original games it was always very limited)

[naive goblet]

i made a new game and after behind seven seals if i try to go to the quest marker to take the key i just crash lmao that’s the 4th time in a row

[past basalt]

What if an offline stalker is in a building? What floor? Underground? Okay so 2D is too limited already. Should they travel freely? Need a separate pathfinding grid? It’s not as simple as a spreadsheet simulator. How to model interactions between stalkers? All these things are an order of magnitude harder in current open world tech than in previous gen levels.

[zenith creek]

Also
While the path an NPC takes will look just as linear as you add locations, the number of routes to pick from increases exponentially

[naive goblet]

how i ask for bug fix

[zenith creek]

Through the website. There's a guide there to submit a bug report

[worthy zodiac]

All of these problems were solved already in original games (Not sure if you know that but there ARE buildings with different floors in original stalker games). All of that is easily simulated in 2d (especially in a world of Stalker 2 - a world that is as vertical as original games, lol). You don't need to simulate stalkers entering the building because that just doesn't matter in offline simulation. The only reason for them to enter the building is because they are capturing the lair or something like that - then they have their "default positions" set by the designer where they can be rendered in when the player approaches, no need to simulate them moving between the floors or underground or anything. It's all about the simplification, you don't need to simulate every single step they make (although who knows, the devs might do that kind of simulation if they really want to, I don't mind it if it'll work. Make a few 2d layers for all the vertical parts of the map and spawn NPCs according to the coordinates on these layers, shouldn't be hard either. I didn't expect them to implement modular reloading system and yet they've done it without announcing it so that's great, they might do just fine in the A-Life aspect). You are really trying to make the problem sound hard when it really isn't, the stalker 2 map isn't some kind of labyrinth with lots of verticality in it

[worthy zodiac]

You don't need to consider the whole map in their reasoning. Same way you aren't thinking about distant planets when trying to travel to the nearby store

[past basalt]

Ok so let’s see what happens if a stalker is online; they are in a building on floor #2. now they go offline because the player moves away. Then the player moves back and the stalker comes back onljne. Where do you put him? It may appear all very simple, but the old games mitigated this issue totally differently due to having separate levels. And even it was janky.

[worthy zodiac]

As I've told you, the original games have already done that. What else there is to say? How is it different now?

[zenith creek]

That's not my point.
My point is that mapping a route from Point A to Point B gets more complicated as you add more points of interest to cross through along the way.

The S2 map is much more dense and larger in scale than the original games. And you do have to simulate travel between PoIs because players expect to see traveling stalkers in the wilderness.

[worthy zodiac]

I'm not denying that the S2 map is more dense and larger, etc. I just don't think that it matters THAT much, considering that our PCs are ALSO much stronger now than they were 20 years ago. What is your point exactly? Because if you are saying that making A-Life for S2 is harder than making it for the older games - I agree, I was never denying that. That was never my point

All I'm saying is that the devs shouldn't stop

And they should keep improving their system. Because I believe that it is indeed possible to make a much better one than we had before. That's my point. Don't you agree with me?

[past basalt]

They have solved that, partly, by having loading screens between levels. Online and offline in the old games was tied to the level the player was in; everything inside that level is online. All other levels are offline. During the loading screens the offline stalker go online. That solution does not fit the current open world design.

[naive goblet]

lord i’m going to die from the crashes it’s the 20th time in a row where i crash in the first 5 mins

absolute insanity

[worthy zodiac]

Have you even played the original games? You are literally lying again. There was NEVER such a thing as "everything online" when you are in the level, lol. Even when you are inside of the location there was an online bubble and you could "unload" and "load in" stalkers just like you do that in stalker 2

[zenith creek]

My point is that because the scale of the problem is so different from in the original games, the AI complexity has to be much higher to look on par with the older games.

I agree that such a system should have been developed at release. But I appreciate the scale of the challenge. This wasn't "solved 20 years ago," which was your original point. This is a much more complicated problem that may require a much more complicated solution.

S2 will also have DLCs and a full SDK to add extra content, so whatever solution they come up with has to be scalable. It can't be tailored to the specific map.

[past basalt]

Dear Nalartos, I appreciate that you feel deeply about this topic but the accusations here are both offensive and wrong. Please read this interview with the designer of the original Alife where he explains how levels determine the online and offline status: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/game-platforms/interview-inside-the-ai-of-i-s-t-a-l-k-e-r-i-

[worthy zodiac]

I didn't mean to say that the whole system was solved 20 years ago, that's obviously not true (otherwise it would be done in S2 already, yeah...). I just wanted to say that some complex problems like loading in stalkers that are on different floors, loading corpses that were "created" in offline mode, etc - that was already done almost 20 years ago. Now it just needs to be "reimplemented" and "reimagined" for Stalker 2, yeah

[worthy zodiac]

not all characters in the player’s level have the online behavior, but only those who are in a predefined radius from the player (can vary from level to level, but usually it is about 150 meters)

Did you even read the interview? It literally proves you wrong

Like... Man... What's wrong with you? Why are you like this?

[terse bane]

in SoC the range online is like 70m

[worthy zodiac]

Not true either

Just launch the game and see for yourself, shouldn't be hard

[past basalt]

It rather matters that the world is still divided up into levels, but you are right that a radius is also used in SOC, depending on the level. If you are more interested in what is wrong with others, not sure how to proceed. I’ll just leave you dreaming of solutions from the past.

[worthy zodiac]

[shut cosmos]

Yeah no

SoC range online is like 200 to 250m.

After SoC is when the online bubble became 150m

[worthy zodiac]

You've just proven that you didn't even play the original games (a few times already, really). You have 0 understanding of the topic but you have opinions about it. Why? I will never understand people like you. I wish you no harm but I also wish people like you just didn't participate in the discussion, all you do is muddle the waters for other participants. Nothing else to say, really

[worthy zodiac]

It's 150m in CoP only. Still not sure how big it is for SoC and CS because the configs say one thing (150m too) but in reality I saw NPCs farther than 150m at all times

[past basalt]

Enjoy your bubble!

[shut cosmos]

💀?

[shut cosmos]

SoC superiority yet again

[terse bane]

A few weeks ago I did a test and it didn't seem that the range online was so big, but if that result (200m-250m) it's by the minimap have sense.

[worthy zodiac]

There's an option to see the distance between you and the point that you are looking at. You can use it to see how far things are, including NPCs

[shut cosmos]

I mean you can ask @worthy zodiac about it. He has clips of these npcs spawning in at 250 meters and being completely visible and moving around.

[worthy zodiac]

#💬┃en_offtop message

[shut cosmos]

70m is insane idk where you got that lmao

[nimble cipher]

macintosh_classic has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[terse bane]

it's feeling like that for me (that's why i said that), but yes, 200m-250m is the range of online A-Life in SoC according to the system.

[mystic nova]

Have started playing again after stopping on launch with ~30h in. Really enjoying the trip again so far!

However I'm getting a bit of mixed feelings because of being playing it now thinking about all the cool little things that could be added on top of it that would make the experience even better, and that most probably will be added at some point.

Things like the low loot variety and huge amount of (the same) loot present in the game, nvg, binoculars, bigger bubble, better flashlight... I know I could use mods for most of them, however I'd like to finish a full deep first vanilla run (Specially now that achievements are disabled without mods) before modding the game deeply

Just wanted to share my thoughts with somebody 😅

[short oak]

I agree with you. In my case,the only criticism i have,is that some things in the game remembers me of far cry. Like weapon sounds,fonts,etc…
But on the other side,after playing for some time,i get immersed like the first games. One thing that they coud improve,are the ragdolls. I always ask them about it,but i think they didnt see my questions! Hahaha

[hexed leaf]

Realistic Death Animations

[zenith creek]

I'm pretty sure they've confirmed NVG at least is in development
I see this as a long paid beta test, we don't know what "vanilla" means yet. Which is why the only mods I have are lighting-related, I feel like as soon as I get used to adding items there will be a patch that breaks everything and I'll have to start a new game

[short oak]

Yep,im now using shake death animations! Its better than vanilla!

[frozen yacht]

anyone have any suggestions for grapical mods that arent reshades available in 1.5.1?

[short oak]

Shay’s death animations*

[hexed leaf]

Ultra Plus

[frozen yacht]

is that one still working? i heard about crashes

[nimble cipher]

oxideuk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hexed leaf]

Wolf you are an absolute wet blanket

[hexed leaf]

But yeah idk I don't play stalker

I have to finish modding it first

Only then will I be allowed to play

[frozen yacht]

literally exaclty what im doing lmfao

any must haves youd recommend?

[hexed leaf]

OXA because it's the finest of mods when I haven't broken it

What kinda thing you looking for?

I may be able to recommend stuff outside of shameless self-promotion

[frozen yacht]

well, looking for a more hardcore experience, better graphics / performance. really anything makes the game a more enjoyable experience

[hard sleet]

Been a loooong while and wanted to hear it from the community but.... is A-Life finally fixed/implemented or is it still pretty much the same as it was at launch with minor tweaks? Meaning do I wait another year or is it fully cooked and ready to go?

[hard sleet]

so.... no? lol

[wraith socket]

I can't see how that was a no.

[hard sleet]

I didn't understand your response.

so is A-life actually implemented or it is peacemeal updates insofar? been waiting to play the game since launch and just checking in if it's ready for action

[wraith socket]

The A-Life is ready to eat you.

[hard sleet]

that is a pretty damn cool screenshot though

[zenith creek]

The Ultra Plus Discord has a beta build for 1.5 but the devs are pretty sick of working with STALKER 2
I haven't had a crash with the betas though

[loud gate]

@quartz snow Here is were we start ranting

fuuuc, I hate it when I miss all the Alife drama

[quartz snow]

Soc doesnt really have alife

[rocky mountain]

Do you also have the A-life bug where a spawned enemy NPC patrol sprints across the map without paying attention to anything, even to shots fired at them?

[quartz snow]

I guess it was masked but compared to Clear Sky... not close to as good

[rocky mountain]

Oh, sorry, I guess I didn't get enough sleep - I thought you were writing about CS. I need some ☕

[loud gate]

Btw, Char, yeah, after playing more of 1.5 - I will agree with you we have better alife than SHoC

Still long way to CS, but it's progress gud progress

[quartz snow]

Yeah.
Next stop is CoP. But gsc can do it

[loud gate]

Well, tbf - once they increase the visual range - we'd already get insanely massive improvement

[shut cosmos]

Ik i was joking lol

Might be a hot take but stalker 2 is my favorite stalker game

Despite its issues it delivered on mostly what I wanted.

It definitely missed on ai but tbh I didnt know much about a life pretty much when stalker 2 was releasing its trailers.

[rocky mountain]

I played a lot of SoC at launch, less so in CS, and CoP didn't grab me at all. They seemed increasingly less diverse and unique.

S2 completely won me over; I'm approaching 300 hours and can't get enough. However, it's a tough ride due to bugs and, in my opinion, poorly thought-out gameplay solutions.

[worn oar]

Did it stop?

[worthy zodiac]

What makes you say that?

What's up with that revisionism I'm seeing here every day?

[worthy zodiac]

Stalkers don't despawn anymore (or I didn't see a proof of them despawning yet), they can move offline too (when they are not rendered in). The biggest issues we have right now is game spawning squads very close to you creating fake scenarios that don't feel natural because no matter where you go you'll always meet somebody shooting at somebody or just some randoms walking around pointlessly. That also means that sometimes when you get killed by some random squad, reload your savefile, go check that spot again – you won't find anything there because the game didn't spawn that squad this time. It also means that if you'll follow an empty road then turn around and run for 10-20 seconds, the game might throw some random NPCs fighting each other on that road – the road that was literally empty half a minute ago. The other "issue" we have is that we still don't have any sort of clear definition for A-Life 2.0 so we don't even know what that system is supposed to be in its final version. Basically, we don't know what to expect (and what NOT to expect)

[mystic nova]

"We don't knmow what vanilla means yet" -> totally agree! that sentence summarize pretty well my feelings atm, as I want to do this vanilla run before modding, the main question is "should I start this run already or keep waiting" 😅

btw I wish those kind of mods like just the ones affecting graphic stuff wont disable achievements now I came back to it 😓

[upper elm]

started a new playthrough recently, my feeling is i'm getting a mix of encounters that really are a-life and also still stuff just being spawned in under the old system, and its just honestly a bit too much when combined. maybe i'm wrong though. there's definitely also still just a bunch of straight up scripted spawns in certain areas, like bloodsuckers that don't exist until you touch a stash.

still, can't deny that things are slowly coming along. new guns are fun

[flint cliff]

It is a good mod?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1428

[placid spoke]

Have they added ng+ yet

[worthy zodiac]

No and I don't remember them saying that it was planned to be added to the game

[placid spoke]

[dense jackal]

Mom?

[worthy zodiac]

#💬┃en_offtop message
Yeah, looks like configs work correctly, just like Windy Fields said it here: #⭐┃nospoilers_general message
The distance of actual Alife NPCs is indeed just 150 meters in SoC too. The problem with SoC is that it has too many scripted NPCs that aren't participating in alife simulation itself and the rules of "150 meters" don't apply to them thus the confusion about the distance

[worthy zodiac]

Check it out too, if you want to

[worthy zodiac]

What makes it feel more than 150 meters (apart from scripted NPCs being rendered farther than 150m) is the design of the locations (they have many obstacles) + it looks like CoP has a shorter switch off distance (At least it looks like that in my video)

Well... That sucks. Wish somebody would correct me sooner, lol. Doesn't matter that much but still sucks that I've misinformed some people

[summer stream]

Genuine question, do you think the trade off of a-life is worth the open world/ very large map, or would you rather have sectioned off areas like the og trilogy?

[worthy zodiac]

There are many openworld games with large maps to explore. There are almost 0 FPS openworld games that are trying to create some interesting systems like A-Life... So I'd rather have sectioned off areas like the og trilogy has if that's the only way to implement systems like this. The thing is - I think it's possible to do both big ass openworld and a cool A-Life system and I hope that GSC will keep improving the system in S2. They've got pretty far already anyways, bet they can go much farther than that

1.4 + 1.5 is a huge step already

[sweet lintel]

do you think it will ever get there?

[worthy zodiac]

It depends on your definition of "get there". I think they can make something a little bit better than what freeplay mods (CotZ, Anomaly, etc) did for the original games. Maybe they'll even get there before this year ends, considering the current progress they've made. Maybe it'll take a year or two more. Who knows? I don't... I just hope for the best. Maybe they'll even do something muuuuch cooler than what we had before? Maybe they'll drop the ball and this is the final version of A-Life? Time will tell, lol

We still don't know what to expect because we still haven't got a clear definition for A-Life 2.0, yea

[celest goblet]

Won't know anything for sure til we have official announcements but it does seem like they're still just getting started considering there hasn't even been an announcemed release window for the announced story expansions yet

[frozen yacht]

so current version def broken on 1.5.1?

[ripe patrol]

I run it no issues

[frozen yacht]

hmm, i get freezing everytime i try and use it

[crystal drum]

Anyone else having a freezing problem during emission?

I've already disabled all mods and turned off framegen or upscaling but it doesn't work

oh, and I don't have the Weird bolt either

[frozen yacht]

is there no channel for modding?

[hazy helm]

my brother in heavenly christ
#mods-help-center

[ripe patrol]

Also #en-mods-general

[frozen yacht]

why the shit am i not seeing those

thank you my brudders

[hazy helm]

turn them on in the browser channels

[frozen yacht]

boomer moment

thanks

[zenith creek]

Not sure, haven't tried
But there's a way to switch to the beta branch within the Ultra Plus Mod Manager so it's not hard to try it out and switch back

[sweet lintel]

id be content with it just being as good as the previus iteration

[worthy zodiac]

It's more or less like CoP already (but with the problem of overpopulation) so you might be content with it in the current state

[nimble cipher]

armymainer has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tired zephyr]

How do you get the sleep effect normally?

[hazy helm]

stop using energizers and do things normally

[summer patio]

Would it be better if I just start a new save? I think mine goes back to 1.0. (not sure if all the new updates will screw with my current save)

[ripe patrol]

I'd suggest starting a new save. You can keep your old save whenever thou wanna go back

[naive goblet]

after the update i keep crashing on my new save at behind seven seals should i delete both my old and new save

at the part where you gotta escape and go to garbage

[ripe patrol]

Mods?

[naive goblet]

None except optimization

this is hell like i’ve tried to go a specific distance and after i travel for 2 or so minutes it’s an instant crash and when i try to save my game crashes too

maybe it’s optimization mods conflicting with eachother idk

[zinc apex]

John Stalker is calling 📞

[naive goblet]

everyday I wish S.T.A.L.K.E.R was real, even if it would be bad

[marble zenith]

Eating cervelate all day yessir 🫡

[nimble cipher]

pesfunplay has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest blaze]

ngl i wonder when they gonna delete #👓trilogy-lore-and-story no one has posted anything in 11 days its all just bot warnings

[hexed leaf]

optimization mods are the same as any other - they can be out of date and cause the game to crash

[zenith creek]

I would only run 1 optimization mod at a time and make sure it is in active development
Ultra Plus is on thin ice since they have a beta that works but it hasn't been touched or released in 2 weeks

[nimble cipher]

oxideuk has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith creek]

U right, I apologize

[hexed leaf]

I believe it's traditional to use 6 or 7 simultaneously, then immediately go to Reddit and complain about Stalker 2 being a buggy mess

I hate wolf so damn much

[zenith creek]

Someone is going to try to install a Skyrim lighting mod into STALKER 2 and then complain when it doesn't work

It's only a matter of time

[worthy zodiac]

Why the need to delete it tho? Let it be, somebody might need it to post some schizo theory one day...

[hexed leaf]

on the subject of schizostalkers

i got this posted on my mod's comments page:
Hello Stalker Howdy

tell me dyod can i have the matching OXA Prototype - Restore Font to the proper version or the 30 june 2025 00:47 clock version is compatible with the OXA Prototype 2.5.9 version? Thank for your efforts.

Some advice there is a new anomaly in the Zone it's called "The Microwave Schock" this behaviour is not covered up but all what we know about it it's shocks all of us.
JUST RUN OUTSIDE the Circle, RUN Back "HOME"
If you experiences such as things happening odd behaviour of the Mutants they wont attack you they walking passing by you and us Bloodsuckers are visible and won't attack. If you experience that those Mutants are chilling DON'T USE FIREARMS Grenades or Similar WEAPONS. By using firearms, triggers the process of the Microwave Shock Effect - Biological beings residing within a previously undefined circle explode from within.
A long time ago a bunker was discovered and till today is a top secret area. The first experiences with this Effect of Microwave Shock Anomaly was encountered within this Underground Facility. Till today we have almost nothing exactly about this Anomaly. On this day a Specialized Military troop was Sent to Recoon the Underground They've confronted with a New species of Mutants they are similar like Bloodsuckers but they fluoresce, and Started with the fight against this Threat. The used cameras recorded this Horror was happened. Since this day this area is under lockdown and hidden from prying eyes.

These Mutants got the Codename: Ultimate-mutants. Extremely strong the deadliest threat of the Zone.

[inland junco]

Im still having stuttering and sudden fps drops at times, has there been any fixes yet?

[spring pulsar]

Something happened to my game, the fov is not working properly... even if I set to minimum it stills too high

[hexed leaf]

sit further back

[spring pulsar]

you mean go to a wall?

ah

[hexed leaf]

drill holes and play from the other side

do you have any mods installed

[spring pulsar]

fov is too high, not low

[inland junco]

I wonder if i upgraded to a rtx 5090 would it run better

[spring pulsar]

seems like the fov is at 200

[hexed leaf]

200?

you can see behind you?

[spring pulsar]

almost

[hexed leaf]

haha that sounds fun. any mods tho?

[spring pulsar]

just the weight of consumables

[hexed leaf]

first try getting rid of that, probably messes with CoreVariables.cfg which contains a whooooole lot of stuff

unless it was created pretty recently - there's just a metric ton of crap mods that haven't been updated in months on Nexus though

if that doesn't do anything, try backing up your saves and deleting the AppData folder before verifying files

its like a reinstall except it actually works and doesn't waste 3 hours

[tired zephyr]

Duty base keeps making my game crash, any fixes?

[naive goblet]

what’s the error code or whatever it says when it crashes

[naive goblet]

same problem different area

[hexed leaf]

mods? location-based crashes can result from missing items being called on approaching a certain area

[tired zephyr]

Im in xbox so it only closes the game

[tired zephyr]

Nope, vanilla stalker

[hexed leaf]

which area?

oh wait you're the duty base guy

[hazy helm]

do you have any mods installed and can you show us your log?

[tired zephyr]

Yeah its on duty base in the third floor of the apartment where the duty leader is, i dont have any mods but i dont know how to show the log

[hazy helm]

open your game folder, go to appdata and go to logs, open the newest and send it to my dms

[zenith creek]

Does Xbox even have an appdata folder

[hazy helm]

is he on xbox?

[tired zephyr]

Yup

[hazy helm]

pray to god, only he can help you then

[tired zephyr]

Damn are there any quests on that base??

[hazy helm]

duty base doesnt have a 3rd floor, are you in agroprom?

[hard sleet]

so I've been waiting to pay the game since launch because 1) I wanted to have the best possible experience of the game and 2) I don't replay games. I think I've given up waiting for A-Life 2.0 to be fully implemented and apparently someone was saying they, the devs, don't even know what the full vision of AL2 is. I really wanted to give them enough time to put it all together but I guess it's not going to happen any time soon as we're coming up 8 months post release.

Simply asked: Is the game as close to the vision as it'll get right now (meaning from hereon out we'll be seeing incremental fixes and QoL changes) or should I wait another 6-12 months as the game still has a ways to go to get to where it needs to be, AL2 aside?

A good example (and where I learned my lesson) is Cyberpunk 2077 and playing on release was utter dog shit-- had I actually waited enough time I would have had a much better experience of the game. Thankfully I got to do the DLC and that was quite awesome but I never want to miss out like that again.

[lucid pagoda]

Some major improvements have been made as of 1.5 vs launch but isn't necessarily yet some 2.0 ala Cyberpunk ultimately got to nor "closest to the vision state." so in that sense I would say wait if you're only looking to experience it once and in the best possible state. But I personally feel in some sense you may be doing yourself a different disservice delaying for that long and then still potentially being let down because who knows what exactly the future holds, and especially if you only plan to play it once and never again because big part of the importance of A-Life is the sandbox feeling & replay value that it adds to the game beyond going through the story completion, which for the most part has been fixed of major progression issues and is playable from start to finish, though very much lacks side content in the later 2/3 of the game compared to the beginning. Here's hoping GSC restores some content that we know from leaks was cut before release and the game gets greater consistency in its content depth as they continue to listen to the community's takes on future updates

[hard sleet]

apprciate the thoughtful answer - will consider it playing it but i've got a big backlog atm so I guess more time doens't hurt.... really do wish they finally wrap up teh game ... I always say any triple A needs minimum 12 months post launch minimum -- didn't listen to my own advice after cp2077 haha

[orchid gale]

Holy yap

[lucid pagoda]

Gotcha brother then in your case I would recommend waiting, doesn't hurt to have more time in the oven especially if you aren't necessarily there at the edge of your seat dying to get your hands on it. I can see the game being equally as improved upon in another 6 months as the work they've put in in these past ones, but I guess I'm not sure exactly where I stand on your question of will it be at a "2.0 state" or as you mentioned " closest to the vision" because I think at the end of the day that might differ as much from dev to dev as it does from player to player & one man's definition of the game being there may not meet another's, just praying the devs continue to listen to the community and also provide them with the necessary toolsets to do what they please with it now that we have the software development kit. there's a lot that ultimately can be handled by the community, but some of that I think should still be in the hands of the devs as to make it into the vanilla unmodded game.

[naive goblet]

i believe AAA games should be delayed by 2 years after what they expect to be release purely for optimization and bug fixing

and they should also properly test their games because there’s no way any tester would look at a buggy AAA game and think that it’s in a playable state

[zenith creek]

All I ever wanted from STALKER was SoC with better graphics and a better tutorial. I think S2 is like 90% to that point. The bubble could be bigger, I could have more FPS, but the game is about where I expected it to be when I bought it months ago.

That's not to say I'm getting my money's worth, they should keep fixing the thing, but like. I can have some fun playing it now. I couldn't before 1.5.

[supple wedge]

I don't know what the answer is, but it's complicated. Game studios are closing down all the time. There is little leverage and clearly a lot of alternate options for investors. So even if a studio wants to, can they realistically?

Just to be clear, I'm not encouraging a race to the bottom, I just think "spend more time (money)" might not be an option for many.

[zenith creek]

Part of the problem is that everyone wants a giant open-world game with "realistic" combat and a living world and on and on and on without the slightest idea of how to make a video game level, AI, or satisfying weapons.

It's easy to list design requirements but there's a lot of pressure on individual people to just "work harder" so the company can deliver. A lot of studios don't want to accept that a small game that accomplishes its goals will be a better product than a big game that can't deliver, in part because the small game is harder to sell.

Saying "go big or go home" leaves out the very real risk of doing both, of making something monumental in scale that still isn't enough to satisfy the audience

[naive goblet]

can someone help me with the exception_access_violation bug man

[winter stump]

It's usually either a RAM issue or a video driver issue.

But with Stalker 2, it's sometimes neither.

[zenith creek]

Not really aside from "uninstall mods"
That's a question for a real support ticket I think, not a Discord

[naive goblet]

damn i deleted all of my mods and it doesn’t fix

[zenith creek]

Next steps are verifying the game and updating drivers

[winter stump]

Reinstall game completely, update video drivers, reinstall them from scratch, disable XMP in bios or disable OC if you have it.

Try running it as admin. Access violation errors just means your windows thinks the game is attempting to access parts of memory it isn't meant to.

It can sometimes indicate a memory leak but they supposedly patched it.

[naive goblet]

what file do i run as admin the shortcut on steam?

[winter stump]

Go to your S2 files & find the main exec.

[zenith creek]

That's a good point, S2 will crash constantly if your RAM OC isn't fully supported by your motherboard

Ask me how I know.....

[supple wedge]

On that note I think there really aren't that many people out there that are great at achieving those aspects in a production pipeline. There are a lot of great artists out there, but design and tech, who are up to date with your engine/platform are hard to find.

Alife would have been a pretty big example of that. Where someone is tasked with implementing something from scratch that fits in with the rest of the project. It's probably just genuinely hard to find the right guy.

[worn oar]

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/greetings-chat-chinchilla-hello-chat-greeting-meme-gif-9823477163413463224

[celest blaze]

omg
keith

[sly matrix]

LORD KEITH HATH BLESSED US WITH HIS PRESENCE ONCE MORE

[static compass]

Keith!

[celest blaze]

[zinc apex]

Can any mod restore my name please?

Era of 40k Kots is over unfortunately

[hazy helm]

whatcha wanna be today

[zinc apex]

Just remove server name pls

[mint helm]

How much will it be to Fully Upgrade ||SEVA-I|| ?

[plain minnow]

Alot

[mint helm]

200k +/-?

[plain minnow]

I dont remember, havent used one since my first playthrough

[mint helm]

No worries - Still deciding if I wanne use it from the Falcon suit

[worn oar]

[zinc apex]

i see I'm doomed to be the last remaining 40k kotsmaxxer for eternity

but that's alright

[sly matrix]

Such a tragic fate

[zinc apex]

the moment a tragic hero was created

[naive goblet]

A flood can either grow your crops or destroy them.

[sly matrix]

It can also be an opportunity to go to work in your canoe

[zinc apex]

The pitcher goes so often to the well that it is broken at last

[worn oar]

Poor Kot

I would've helped you if only you said "to what"

[static compass]

I'm a kotsmaxxer

[crisp ruin]

I'm ultimate one

[celest blaze]

I am..

[static compass]

[lusty mountain]

Anyone else get a bug on xbox when quick resuming stalker 2 it spams the "you need a controller" prompt even when you clearly do and click continue "multiple times lol

[thick wolf]

I've had it loop like that only once before, and it's been a while. I have seen that message appear more recently, but it usually only appears once

[lucid pagoda]

yeah I've had that a lot more as of 1.5 for some reason

[swift dragon]

Been loving the game since upgrading my PC

[naive goblet]

it seems the crashes on stalker from earlier also appear on different devices, i tried on a completely different PC, And when i try and get into the general area i crash instantly...

[naive goblet]

What if it happens on five different devices i tested on?

Is it just a bug with the game?

i think my save is bugged

[supple wedge]

What are you doing when you crash? The game definitely can work fine without crashing

Yeah, might be the save. Maybe mods causing issues bricking saves.

[naive goblet]

i tested this on multiple devices but when i go to the end area for behind seven seals i instantly crash and when i try to save i also crash

[naive goblet]

oh no ive tried without mods too i only had like one or two optimization mods that seemed trusted

[supple wedge]

I just wonder if mods can corrupt saves. As for the mods you're specifically using, (engine ini?)seems unlikely.

[naive goblet]

let me test right now on a different save and come back

its 100% my. save because theres no way that on 5 different devices all of them decide to crash while trying to save/going to a specific area

if it is im just gonna end it because ive waited like one or two weeks to hop back on stalker 2 but couldnt

due to this stupid bug man

[supple wedge]

Contacted support?

[naive goblet]

nope

[supple wedge]

Might be the time.

[naive goblet]

i suppose it is

[supple wedge]

Kinda think people should do it sooner. Lots of stuff could be better catalogued if it went through the proper channels rather than random forum posts.

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[worn oar]

There is no such thing "as trusted mod". The game updates every once in a while and in most cases, minor changes to files can be done, and that directly and automatically calls for a mod update. So, try to check the mod for a possible update, contact the author to request one, or simply try troubleshooting the game by trying to launch it modfree and see if the problem persists. In case it does, then best thing you can do is continue troubleshooting and perhaps it may be caused by another mod you unproperly unistalled (or not). I'd suggest clearing shader cache if none of what I previously mentioned is the case.

[supple wedge]

Is Ranjid a bot?

Has he ever posted anything actually related to this discord?

[worn oar]

Mods can corrupt saves indeed. It basically depends on specific mods and mostly on the ones that adds things to the game rather than simply modifying existing content. If so, eve unistalling should be done in a very specific way to prevent bricking saves. (Mainly trying to despawn whatever the mod added by either selling or throwing, then waiting for about more than 24 in-game time to trigger inventory update or general despawn).
In any case, game updates can cause issues with certain mods.

[worn oar]

He's not

Honestly, most ppl thought he was back in the day

Hehe until he replied to me and other folks around the server

And having casual conversation

It was shocking but based yk

[supple wedge]

Yeah can definitely see that being an issue.
But if it's just ini files that change ue commands (that may or may not actually exist in engine) then I figure it is probably low risk.

[worn oar]

His daily good day wish routine made him a legend

[worn oar]

Yes. Small recalibration/tweaks can pose minor risks in most cases, and even no risk at all

[supple wedge]

Soon as stuff is spawning non vanilla items I figure you're playing with fire.

[worn oar]

That is why it's best to test things out before reporting or making complaints

Not really, it just requires some extra bit of knowledge to handle

[supple wedge]

I've avoided mods mostly, and honestly my game is pretty rock solid.

[worn oar]

Same, been vanilla day one

Never faced major issues even since launch

[supple wedge]

I reckon UEtools installing in places other than mods folder is what bricks lots of people's games.

[worn oar]

And my last playthrough was exceptionally stable even during testing

[supple wedge]

In that sense I think some people are waiting for a fix that will never come, because they're trying to reuse saves or mods.

[worn oar]

Yep though, GSC literally fixed some mod related issues once and I was like wut

since ppl kept complaining non-stop

Not knowing it was mod caused

Since then, the team added the mod notice under patchnotes I think? Didn't see those before that happening.

[supple wedge]

Saw someone trying to post that as a gotcha, that GSC said they would support mods but are now backtracking.

What are they going to do, QA every single mod for every patch?

[worn oar]

Modsupport= ZDK

Not devs taking time fixing mod issues haha

Ppl mistake the latter for modsupport

[wraith socket]

The downside to adding Mods is the next patch could ruin your game.

[supple wedge]

I don't mind that GSC is branding saves with the "MOD+" tag. At least then people can work out what ones are what for troubleshooting.

Thats only for workshop though, as far as I know

[terse swallow]

Has anyone fixed the horrible lumen ghosting now that mod tools are available?

Thinking about playing some S2 again

[shut cosmos]

Lucky af

[worn oar]

Ig I am

[flint cliff]

Hello, is the npc wearing this vest from the Ward faction?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WolyievwIaU&list=PLUvlhIpXootz6HMx2WDUdsHZC_HShOG8j&index=1

[worn oar]

Yes

[swift dragon]

How can I upgrade the Hypercube?

[nimble cipher]

1nazzy1 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[terse swallow]

why do the reflections at sircaa look like this

[dire dagger]

Because lumen

[nimble cipher]

lilbee307 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[terse swallow]

what did i say

[dire dagger]

You said fucking

But I agree

[terse swallow]

M rated game, no f words

[dire dagger]

Yes it makes tons of sense i know

[terse swallow]

i love official game discords sometimes :3

[dire dagger]

[terse swallow]

(i get it, discord has young people on it, im not malding, i just forget to self censor)

[dire dagger]

We use loony toons logic alright

But yes software lumen looks bad and runs even worse

Hw lumen would look much better and run better for those who’s pc are fast enough to take advantage

[supple wedge]

Doesn't Silent Hill, Oblivion Remaster etc run worse with Hardware Lumen?

[tiny token]

imagine all the ragebait plebbitors if they could swear here

[supple wedge]

Sircaa floors are a weird one, because it seems to be at least in part a temporal scaling issue. It cleans up with TSR

[dire dagger]

We can swear so we rage bait constantly

FUCK

[terse swallow]

This is true

[dire dagger]

I’d imagine it depends on your hardware

[terse swallow]

They do, yeah, but there's also much, much higher precision. If you had a way to scale down the precision of the reflections for HW Lumen to be similar to that of SW, I bet it would run somewhat better. But also, I'd like to be given the option to sacrifice the performance for better precision tbh.

Especially because the whole point of Lumen is like, no need to place lights manually, it all just does it all for you.

[dire dagger]

It would free up the massive cpu bottleneck

[supple wedge]

Does it though? Last I remember checking it was a 4090 running worse with hardware RT.

[terse swallow]

Yes.

[dire dagger]

Is that in like path tracing mode

[supple wedge]

No

[dire dagger]

Oh idk

I never looked up the performance benchmarks

I just look at the new Indiana jones game

Which requires hw rt to even run

And that game looks amazing and runs super well

[terse swallow]

Yup, same with doom the dark ages

But, yknow, idtech.

I really, really wish S2 had HW Lumen support. I'm kind of surprised modders haven't found a way to enable it now that the tools are a thing but hey ho

[supple wedge]

Bro, you do say "HW lumen will perform better" a lot for someone who doesn't know

I'm not say I don't want it, but be realistic.

[dire dagger]

I read from the pre approved talking points

[terse swallow]

It may balance out. It may not. Again, if you were able to turn down the precision of HW Lumen far enough, it may balance out in a way that is preferable and free up a CPU bottleneck.

[supple wedge]

4090 has a 25% performance drop in HW Lumen in Silent Hill

[terse swallow]

Because the precision matters.

[dire dagger]

What about 5090

[supple wedge]

Probably the same

[dire dagger]

But it has more rt cores

So that wouldn’t make sense

[supple wedge]

50 series aren't RT monsters in general, but maybe

I say that owning one.

[dire dagger]

Well 2 or 3 more generation

Then it will run better

I’m still right on a technicality

I WIN

[terse swallow]

why do the indoor sections run so much worse than outside

i do not understand this game

[supple wedge]

I'll admit I'm vsync locked, so I'm not really sure where the game runs better or worse, but in terms of raytracing lighting is harder to resolve in dark areas.

[terse swallow]

Doin the 60hz monitor thing?

[supple wedge]

It's what I have.

[terse swallow]

Totally get ya

[supple wedge]

But it's 4k, so that's nice.

[terse swallow]

My TV is 4k60hz but my PC is hooked up to 1440p 165hz screen with not great motion clarity

Well it's hooked up to both but even if I can only really hit 1440p60 with S2 I like to use the frame gen for extra visual motion clarity

[supple wedge]

Yeah, I'd probably run FG if I had a higher refresh rate.

I do like not having to worry about FG artifacts or fluctuations with the 60hz monitor.

[terse swallow]

For sure. It is nice.

FG doesn't look terrible in S2, for my tastes. I play GAMMA using Lossless Scaling and that looks pretty clean, but I'm locked to 85fps for that.

[naive goblet]

I think that’s what this is… maybe my save was screwed over by the mods, after uninstalling all the mods it still crashes and vanilla on other devices still crashes

[ripe thorn]

Just found out that the headshot space program still works sometimes
Got it once in around 3h of gameplay, but still

[hazy helm]

hey I hate lumen, but I would nevr hate on lumen

[dire dagger]

That’s not in the list of approved talking points bro

Your suppose to just hate lumen

[hazy helm]

so true

what are you doing bro, you havent met the daily lumen hate quote

[dire dagger]

GOD I FUCKEN HATE LUMEN

SUCKS SO MUCH BRO

[worthy zodiac]

I do hate raytracing in general...

(Realtime rt in games, I mean)

(Currently, at least. Maybe sooner or later we'll build some quantum computers that will be able to make all the calculations instantly so the image will never have noise no matter how much action and camera movement there is....)

[iron spoke]

Why gets my Equipment instantly to 0 % when I get hit once or twice by an Anomaly???? TF thinks this is a good system.

Even 8 Months after release this game is unplayable

[celest blaze]

Its going to VERY long time before quantum pcs are ever viable for the commercial market

They are stupidly expensive million plus

[naive goblet]

give it 5 years

[celest blaze]

10+

[naive goblet]

i say 5 because in 5 years i’ll stop being lazy and mass produce them

i mean seriously i’m a genius

[celest blaze]

Start now.. I want to run stalker 2 native

[naive goblet]

4K will be a thing of the past by this month and there will be no such thing as “optimization” computers will be so strong they won’t need any form of it

[celest blaze]

8k 200fps..

[worthy zodiac]

Maybe never. What's the issue with doing it here and now anyways?

[hazy helm]

I gave it 5 years
5 years ago

[celest blaze]

You can have a quantum computer rn if you got millions lol

You cant afford one

People cry at rtx 5000 series prices they would kill themselves with quantum commercial prices

[worthy zodiac]

It doesn't work like it is supposed to work anyways or so I've heard

[zenith creek]

Quantum computers require a completely different way of thinking about programming anyway, from what I understand

[worthy zodiac]

But yeah, I meant to say "what's the issue of making it viable for the market here and now". Like, what has to change in 5-10-1000 years that will allow us to buy it for a few thousands eurs or something?

[hazy helm]

its 2 more dimensions than you would handle bro

fr tho, it is

since alongside yes or no it has maybe yes and maybe no, its not binary

[naive goblet]

i propose a solution against optimization issues not just for games but for different applications and stuff for the computer. my solution is that we should have a single standardised personal computer which will have everything optimized around it so they know exactly what they are working with and completely ban windows, MacOS, and Linux and ban the sale of computer parts.

[worthy zodiac]

Yeah, that means that every single pc has to support EVERYTHING then and it isn't viable for the market

[naive goblet]

Well this is in a hypothetical dystopian world where i’m the leader and i ban NVIDIA and AMD

[worthy zodiac]

What if you want a laptop just to watch cats and boobs on the internet and don't need all the tech to run stalker 3 natively in 16k and 360 fps?

That's the issue, basically

[naive goblet]

that’s not an issue because i will mass produce this and since it will be the only personal computer assembly lines will be optimized for just one target, manufacture efficiency will go through the roof… and i will invest in the hardware and i pray that optimization will do the rest

and also laptops will be banned.

[worthy zodiac]

Hope you'll succeed cause that would be a funny prank

[naive goblet]

everybody will have top of the line but budget computers

8K ultra native no need for DLSS or AI upscaling

[hazy helm]

all is to your will, Mr. Playstation

[worthy zodiac]

He didn't say anything about intel tho... Think about it...

I think I know where his investments are...

[hazy helm]

I not buying a Intel CPU no matter what you do Lip Bu Tan

[naive goblet]

Intel will be producing it.

[dire dagger]

Bro is like

If we make a monopoly with no competition

Market will definitely be better

The one option for sale costs 5k dollars

And you have no choice but to pay

Total victory for the state

[celest goblet]

Bro invented consoles

[dire dagger]

Consoles if they were developed by communists

[celest goblet]

Intel will produce it with all their experience in both the CPU and GPU space and producing low margin high volume hardware

[dire dagger]

Unless the end product was uncharged like 500 percent

It would vaporize the company lol

[celest goblet]

Lmao

[dire dagger]

They operate the company on like 1 percent profit margins

It’s why they have been cutting jobs and down sizing like crazy

[celest goblet]

Yeah that and making processor lines that brick themselves and crash at high temps. They have a lot of digging up to do

Did you see that thing where someone was able to track the EU heat wave by looking at location data for Firefox crashes on raptor lake CPUs

[dire dagger]

Their new CPU’s don’t have any problems other than just being slow

[terse swallow]

i dont hate HW lumen :c

[terse swallow]

oooh youre so cool for hating raytracing damn what a totally unheard of opinion

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[terse swallow]

hot take? raytracing is pretty cool

[naive goblet]

the plan is to lower the price and tailor everything around a single very strong and affordable computer that most people would be able to afford

it would be cheaper then a 5090 but offer more performance

[dire dagger]

That’s literally impossible

[terse swallow]

played thru cyberpunk 2077 with pathtracing recently. it ruled

[dire dagger]

[celest goblet]

After Indiana Jones and the latest Doom I am starting to come around on ray tracing, only took like 6 years since it debuted to start getting worthwhile

[dire dagger]

I think you grossly underestimate how much flagship silicon costs to make

[naive goblet]

yes i do but let me larp

[dire dagger]

The piece of silicon in a 5090 costs more than a ps5 pro for Nvidia to make

[naive goblet]

but production costs will go down if there is one singular target

massive boost in efficiency and games will be much less buggy and offer higher performance

it’s one size fits all here

[dire dagger]

Not that much

[celest goblet]

The extremely high margin 5090 sales subsidize the more normal hardware prices more or less

[dire dagger]

5090 uses a giant piece of silicon

[naive goblet]

then i will mass produce silicon

[dire dagger]

You don’t understand how wafers work

[naive goblet]

in my dystopian world i will be so genius i will start to MAKE silicon

there will be no mining minerals to make CPUs or GPUs

[dire dagger]

The bigger a die is the higher the chance of a defect on the die

Why amds chiplet tech is so goated

[naive goblet]

that is why i will ban AMD

[celest goblet]

Because their design is better?

[dire dagger]

Lmao

[naive goblet]

it’s a threat to the standard personal computer i want to mass produce

[dire dagger]

You ever heard of the Soviet Union man

[naive goblet]

AMD will be repurposed into military engineering

[dire dagger]

Maybe you should go there

[naive goblet]

why

[dire dagger]

I think they like this type of thinking

[naive goblet]

they must be geniuses then

but i know of no country called the soviet union

[dire dagger]

Well they were dissolved in 1991

So probably not

[naive goblet]

i suppose i’ll invent time travel to visit them

[dire dagger]

You and ever communist loser ever

You can be sent to labor camp for annoying the state

[naive goblet]

Not if i’m the leader.

[dire dagger]

Right

I think your a little too dumb to really make it as a leader

[naive goblet]

it feels horrible to have less than others so i will standardize everything. computers food cars everyone will eat the same drink the same and use the same computer and the same car

[dire dagger]

Maybe you should go get a job

And stop being such a massive loser

[naive goblet]

No i am too busy making world plans

[dire dagger]

Then why should I give you anything

Why do you deserve more than those who work hard

You deserve nothing bro

[naive goblet]

you don’t. i will give you everything. in 20 years you will live in the same house as everyone else and have the same as everyone else and be satisfied.

[dire dagger]

Cringe

@hazy helm come check this out we got a full fledge commie

[naive goblet]

i don’t even know what communism is

[dire dagger]

Your literally describing it

Are you like 12

[naive goblet]

no i’m not but i never studied political ideologies

[dire dagger]

I honestly don’t believe you

[naive goblet]

maybe once a few years ago but i forgot since it was a brief lesson.. not interested in political ideologies. none except my own.

[dire dagger]

You are the most comically idiotic moron I think I’ve ever met lmfao

[naive goblet]

Personally i think im a genius. atleast thats what my dad tells me.

[dire dagger]

Lmfaooooo

Bro you gotta be trolling

[naive goblet]

everyone says that but i don’t think my ideology is that ridiculous that everyone laughs at me when i show it off..

think about it. no one will starve and everyone will have free healthcare and education.

[dire dagger]

Then what’s the point of living

If everything is handed for you for free

Why do anything

Why work

If you remove all hardship from life

Life becomes pointless

[naive goblet]

But it’s fulfilling though

and if my people aren’t happy i will give them stimulants or something

[hexed leaf]

Yea it's not like I make OXA because I'm drowning in ass

[dire dagger]

You are now

Cus you made it

[hexed leaf]

Tehehe oh my

[dire dagger]

Most people don’t want this

I don’t want it

I’d fucken hate it

My life must have meaning

And it must have hardship

If I earn nothing

Nothing I do means anything

[naive goblet]

but there will be no need to earn anything.. think about it.. you could do just about anything you want except leave the country

[dire dagger]

So it’s a prison

Fuck that

[naive goblet]

No it’s not because you get to leave

but i will eliminate the need for people to leave and so nobody will ever leave the country willingly

[dire dagger]

I can’t leave the country

[worn oar]

[dire dagger]

It’s literally a Soviet state bro

[naive goblet]

how so

[dire dagger]

You’re describing a Soviet state

[dire dagger]

That’s just wrong lol

People would want to leave

I’d leave

[naive goblet]

i suppose people would only leave for like, vacations or something, but they probably wouldn’t because i plan to have a huge nation where you don’t need to go out of the country to see places

[dire dagger]

Dude there would be nothing to see

No one would do anything

Why bother

Doing anything is pointless

[naive goblet]

and i’d also ban the media or any videos showing other locations outside of the country so they think my country is the only beautiful one

[dire dagger]

Literally North Korea

[naive goblet]

no but there’s freedom of speech for basically everything except that

[dire dagger]

That wouldn’t last long

As all such states do

[naive goblet]

and i’m not forcing them to stay so they could go see beautiful places it’s just they’d be less incentivized to do so

[dire dagger]

So the country is a cage

say what you will about the west but we never had to build a wall to keep our people In

[naive goblet]

if we put it in chicken terms, it would be free-range

actually no since they’d get to leave

[dire dagger]

Why do you need to take any action to make people stay

If it’s so great

[naive goblet]

the plan is after the first 5 years they won’t

[dire dagger]

They should be allowed to learning what ever they wish about the outside

[naive goblet]

yes and they can leave and go see it

[dire dagger]

But why censor media then

[naive goblet]

so they would forget about the outside

[dire dagger]

Why should they need to

Unless outside is better

[naive goblet]

because i don’t want them to think there are beautiful places for vacations outside of the country

[dire dagger]

Why

[naive goblet]

we would already have plenty of beautiful places

[dire dagger]

So what

You want to control people is what you want bro

[naive goblet]

psychologically they will know about the outside world but have no care for it if they leave and then see the other ideology where people have more than each other it would be bad

[dire dagger]

That’s all you seem to really want

[dire dagger]

Yah cus they’d like it more

[naive goblet]

it would create problems but i think that would only be a minority

[dire dagger]

Your country would be nothing but jobless losers with no education

Literally just cattle

[naive goblet]

but there will be no nihilism no rebels and everyone will be educated on basically everything

[dire dagger]

Why

Why become educated

If there’s nothing to use the education for

[naive goblet]

for innovation will not be a need but something you could do optionally

[dire dagger]

Why innovate

There’s no need to

[naive goblet]

for the bored people

[dire dagger]

The bored people would leave

To be paid fairly for there work and labor

[naive goblet]

hmmm

[dire dagger]

This is what happens in places like Russia

All the smart people leave

Because people don’t really like doing long hours of labor for the same pay as the man who sits at home and does nothing

There would be no games no movies

Nothing of the sort would ever be made

[naive goblet]

No don’t worry a very select few people from the outside will be paid to do that.

[dire dagger]

Then your society is inherently flawed

[quartz olive]

How do I make it so that the game saves locally and not on Xbox cloud or whatever/
[17:49]
It overrode my save last time and I lost 2hr of progress because of it

[naive goblet]

But i would censor some stuff before letting the games and movies in.. and also my goal is to mostly remove bad emotions like jealousy envy and nobody would be sad because there’d be no poverty or anything so they’ll live a perfect and blissful life

[dire dagger]

Alright I’m done arguing about this tbh your entire idea is literally just the Soviet Union on paper

[magic patio]

Anybody else gets random "total freeze" during blowouts now?

[dire dagger]

Yah that’s hell

Literally hell on earth

[naive goblet]

how’s it hell if you can’t feel bad

[dire dagger]

Then I’m not alive

I’m basically a walking corpse

An ai

A machine

Life with out hardship

Is a life not worth living

[naive goblet]

hmm i suppose you’re right

i guess i’d conquer the world and let people be employed and there would be concepts like money but it would not lead to jealousy or class division

[dire dagger]

It should

Those who work hard should be rewarded

If you don’t wanna work as hard

That’s too fucken bad

The other guy will have more than you

And that’s just how it’s gonna be

[naive goblet]

i would put a hard cap on people by taxing them more the richer they get but not so bad that they would be middle class, however they wouldn’t be incentivized to work extremely hard

[dire dagger]

They should be

The harder you work the more you get paid

Got no sympathy for lazy bum ass losers

[naive goblet]

but there will be no lazy bum ass losers because i’ll motivate people to work

[dire dagger]

By offering them nothing

You get people to work by giving them more money

[naive goblet]

yes precisely.. if you don’t work then i’d withhold food and healthcare and also take away their home is essentially what i’m saying

[dire dagger]

So literally how it works right now

[naive goblet]

what does that mean

[worthy zodiac]

I wish it was a popular opinion. Most people just don't care about it, they don't even know what lumen is, let's be real

[dire dagger]

It makes pretty lights

[worthy zodiac]

A year or two ago most people thought that raytracing is some kind of new tech that is only available on rtx cards or something

[dire dagger]

Bring back sli

[naive goblet]

I only know that it looks cool but lowers performance is all

[worthy zodiac]

It doesn't just lowers the performance. Currently there are no PCs that can handle it in real time without producing noise and I hate noise, even just a little bit of it

[dire dagger]

Some games it’s basically unnoticeable

[worthy zodiac]

Yet again, maybe it isn't noticeable for you

I still remember when you couldn't distinguish native pic vs compressed one so yeah, we are definitely built differently (no offense. I'd say it's a benefit for you since now that's "a me problem" and not yours)

[dire dagger]

I just need to know what I’m looking for

[worthy zodiac]

Although I'll be real, I really liked playing minecraft with rtx

[dire dagger]

Too bad it’s only on bedrock

Ain’t no way you getting me to play bedrock

[worthy zodiac]

But that's because that game can't have anything like baked global illumination by definition

[worthy zodiac]

Nowadays you won't get me to play minecraft in general. Java or bedrock, vanilla or mods... Vintage Story ruined Minecraft for me

(I was paid for this post)

[dire dagger]

The anti hytale cabal

[worthy zodiac]

Oh right, I heard they cancelled it. I was never waiting for it but it's still a shame

Guess they were focusing on too many things at the same time

[dire dagger]

Vintage story was made by ex hytale people

[worthy zodiac]

Really?

[celest goblet]

Presumably the ones who wanted to actually make a game

[dire dagger]

Yes lol

[worthy zodiac]

Damn, I didn't know that

[dire dagger]

The guy who headed the project was ex hytale at least

[worthy zodiac]

That's a cool info, actually, I never thought these two games are connected

[dire dagger]

I’ve heard good things about vintage story but I’ve yet to try it myself

[worthy zodiac]

It's really good. But if you are into the "grindy techy" side of minecraft then it isn't there yet, not even close. It's more about survival mechanics, details, creative building and interactivity, not about automation and grinding. Saying that cause most of the minecraft players I know play it like it's factorio in 3D and I don't want you to expect the same thing from Vintage Story, yeah

Also, yeah, I've just read their blog post. Kinda cool

[dire dagger]

I’d find that cool but no replacement for Minecraft

I gotta build muh giant machines

[naive goblet]

i haven’t heard of that in like 7 years lol what happened

[dire dagger]

They blew 250 mil and had no game

So riot pulled the plug

[naive goblet]

Insane

how did they even manage that lmao

[dire dagger]

They remade massive amounts of the game

Effectively restarting development multiple times

[inner sphinx]

you guys think the game will hit 60 fps on series x?

[quartz olive]

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000020d70a7007c

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ntdll

Game does this after loading onto a save last launched 6 months ago

[inner sphinx]

or maybe some mods that optimize the game will drop?

[quartz olive]

any ideas?

[zinc apex]

got mods installed?

[quartz olive]

I had but I removed them ever since the update dropped

[worn oar]

Did any mod add anything?

Name your mods

If possible

[quartz olive]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh
living zone
better gunfights
soc-like UI
UETools
Less mutant health
Classic font
And SOC cursor

[worn oar]

You sure you unistalled everything correctly? Also, did you also use mutant loot mod?

[quartz olive]

I removed all from the mods folder in paks, that's all I remember doing
And no i did not

[worn oar]

If you did everything correctly, try clearing your shader cache and wait it out until it fully loads again then see if something changes

[zinc apex]

try putting an updated shays living zone pak in mods

[worthy zodiac]

Aren't mutants kinda fine already? I'm playing vanilla and don't feel like I need their health to be lowered even more now

[quartz olive]

I installed that mod like 8 months ago

[worthy zodiac]

It was really bad on 1.0 tho

[zinc apex]

i had several issues with a-life mods and older saves whem the update dropped

[quartz olive]

Can I just get the version from the menu? Playing on xbox live gamepass or whatever the hell its called

[worthy zodiac]

Ah, wait, I didn't see the context of the message. Nevermind

[zinc apex]

i think so

[worn oar]

The stuff you mentioned are not supposed to cause save problems upon unistalling if I'm not mistaken. So, try getting the game to run, make a new save and use it as a starting point.

[quartz olive]

i swear to god if this shit just corrupted my save im keying grigo's bike collection

[worn oar]

Try the shader cache clear thing and see if that helps

[quartz olive]

this time limit thing

busts my balls

[worn oar]

Nvidia?

[quartz olive]

yeah

[worn oar]

Btw, newer drivers are too damn bad. I stopped the updates since 5000series went live

Hold on a sec

https://youtu.be/0y2HaRwqbAY?si=vBteg2y9oU-p4Kg7

[quartz olive]

ight il try it and report back

[worn oar]

Just note that after clearing cache, first shader loading will take longer than usual, so have some patience with it

[quartz olive]

Now it crashes when loading and instead of the unhandled exception it throws this
LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Private\Serialization\AsyncLoading2.cpp] [Line: 1568] ObjectSerializationError: /Game/GameLite/FPS_Game/UIRemaster/HUD/StatPanel/W_UpdatedStatPanel (0xB0D903F33E42C9C) /Game/GameLite/FPS_Game/UIRemaster/HUD/StatPanel/W_UpdatedStatPanel (0xB0D903F33E42C9C) - W_StatSlot_C /Game/GameLite/FPS_Game/UIRemaster/HUD/StatPanel/W_UpdatedStatPanel.W_UpdatedStatPanel_C:WidgetTree.HPStatSlot: Bad export index 4210175/104.

I think im just going to bite the bullet and reinstall the game and pray it works

Man to think I had less problems testing out Goldpshere translations than getting an AAA game to work

[shut cosmos]

Ngl I liked when the bloodsuckers were beefier

[quartz olive]

i didnt because I was legit running out of shotgun ammo on one

[worn oar]

Would be best to do that. Backup your saves, and delete the whole thing (original saves, user configuration, and all you can find), then place back the Backup saves after launching the game one time to let it rebuild what you deleted

[quartz olive]

Should have just built the game on xray 2...

[worn oar]

I'm not tech support, so my advice is merely based on what I know for an exp, plus calculated guesses

[shut cosmos]

That wouldn't have been viable lol

[quartz olive]

Thanks anyway

[shut cosmos]

Xray is not a good engine in anyway

[quartz olive]

From my experience it at least works unlike ue 5