⭐┃nospoilers_general

[static compass]

Remote Zek

[reef raptor]

meow

[static compass]

[reef raptor]

oh..

[unreal raptor]

Cyberpunk 2.3 patch to drop before Stalker 2 1.5 — taking bets?

[ripe patrol]

@dire dagger Jarvis, explode this guy's penur

[sly matrix]

Aaaand he's gone

Wasen't me though, got beaten to it

[compact belfry]

Is it just me or is the game different then was promised in the trailers

I mean its great, but its missing many great features old stalker games did have

[static compass]

What

It's just boykisser glorp

[reef raptor]

[static compass]

Omg

Another one

[zinc apex]

i love glorp

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-nightrunners-gif-16795761468229837051

[north violet]

@dire dagger Following up on your conversation about the Miata, I'm seriously considering getting a Mazda 3 hatch for my next car.

[coarse sparrow]

whats inside 2.3

[dire dagger]

What year

[north violet]

No idea yet, I planned on buying new.

[dire dagger]

Ah a shame

[north violet]

I drive a 12 year old Honda Civic. It's been mostly solid but it's really showing its age, and I really want to upgrade it in the future.

[dire dagger]

But the manual brother

[north violet]

You can get a 2025 Mazda 3 in manual, you just have to choose the right trim.

[dire dagger]

Based

[north violet]

Mazda's infotainment system is also the best imo; that dial is so much better than a touch-screen.

[dire dagger]

No I just checked they are not

[north violet]

I looked at their website just last week. You can absolutely get one with a manual.

[dire dagger]

Do you live in the us?

[north violet]

Yes.

[dire dagger]

All of them have a foot note saying

“Mazda3 Sudan 2025 does not come in manual”

[dire dagger]

Oh I see

The hatch back does have manual

My b

[north violet]

Oh good, I'm not crazy.

[dire dagger]

Only in the non turbo version

Mazda why

[dire dagger]

My problem with modern cars is the stupid black box they have on board

They can use it to void your warranty

Damn looks like you hit 80mph once

Get owned bitch no more warranty

[north violet]

Well I don't plan on doing anything particularly egregious with it.

Honestly my only real worry is whether or not it's a robust enough vehicle to handle my lifestyle, the weather, the roads where I live, and the roads (or lack thereof) I may take it on.

[dire dagger]

Mazdas are relatively reliable

[north violet]

You also can't get the turbo with AWD. Like come on Mazda, why aren't you letting me get this car with AWD, a turbo, and a manual transmission?

[north violet]

It's less about reliability and more about potholes and dirt roads/lots.

Also snow.

[dire dagger]

They’re afraid of making a Subaru

[north violet]

I think the only thing Subaru has that fits that description is the WRX.

[dire dagger]

Subarus just get really bad mpg

Well

The na ones are alright but

The wrx sti gets mpg on par or worse than a rotary engine

How is that even possible

[north violet]

Probably because Subaru's AWD is different from what you get on most cars. They have full-time, mechanical AWD as far as I know.

[dire dagger]

Yes

It’s the only real awd

[north violet]

I think Audi's AWD system is similar.

[dire dagger]

Outside of some insanely expensive lancers

[north violet]

I mean, their AWD system is apparently what's being blamed for the new Forester hybrid only getting...I think 35 MPG?

[dire dagger]

I mean

For what it’s worth

It is better

[north violet]

Not by much though, the Forester's highway MPG is already 33 MPG if I remember correctly.

[dire dagger]

No I mean the awd

It’s better

[north violet]

Oh my bad.

Hopefully they can get better mileage out of the Forester hybrid in the future. The smaller models like the Crosstrek and the Impreza should be able to get decent returns from it.

[dire dagger]

I have an Impreza sport

Fairly competent 5 speed manual

[north violet]

The new Outback looks like absolute dogshit though, they've gone full SUV with it and killed any semblance it still had with a wagon.

[dire dagger]

The clutch could be better

And if you get one

You need to get it tuned

They got some slush box manual tune

Where if you press in the clutch over 3k rpm it will hang

Genius design

[north violet]

They put out an RS (Rally Sport) trim for the 2025 Impreza but the damn thing doesn't come with a manual transmission. Like WTF Subaru?

[north violet]

Ew.

[dire dagger]

Can be easily tuned out

Just take it to literally any tuning shop and they can easily fix it

[north violet]

Oh I believe you, I'm just disappointed that Subaru has become so afraid of making any of their non-WRX lineup fun.

[dire dagger]

Toyota is giving them a run for their money

[dire dagger]

Their engines also must be taken care of like a baby

[north violet]

Toyota owns a 20% stake in Subaru last I knew.

[dire dagger]

Or they will explode

[dire dagger]

They also own Mazda lol

[north violet]

Aren't boxer engines used in racing?

[dire dagger]

Yah

I mean they can be great

People have made crazy power with them

Hell Porsche uses them lol

[north violet]

Not outright from what I'm seeing. At least according to their Wikipedia page, Toyota only owns a a 5.1% stake in the company.

[dire dagger]

I think that changed recently then

Cus I was fairly sure they owned a large stake

[north violet]

I'm just happy they ditched Ford.

Huh, apparently Ford grabbed a 33.4% ownership stake of Mazda back in 1995.

[dire dagger]

Yes

[north violet]

Hmm, I can't find anything in the Wikipedia page regarding Toyota owning a super large stake in the company. Maybe I'm overlooking it.

[dire dagger]

Perhaps it’s just been oversold to me

[north violet]

Mayhaps.

[dire dagger]

But regardless basically only Subaru and Toyota offer an awd turbo manual

[north violet]

I wish Toyota still sold the Corolla Hatch in manual.

Would love an ultra practical car like that. Sure the interior is boring as hell, but I like Toyota's sturdiness.

It pains me to say it, but as much as I want one, a Mazda 3 might just be too...nice for what I'll need.

Last thing I want to do is go to a campground with particularly rough roads and rip off something on the undercarriage.

Idk, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

[dire dagger]

tbh i think most modern cars just kinda suck in general

[celest blaze]

Fr

Make the 7.3 again.. with no emissions nonsense..

[ember ridge]

can anyone tell me if the game optimization got better since release i havent touched the game since wanted it to cook

[static compass]

Better, needs more time in the oven

I'd check back after the next update

[supple wedge]

Some ways yes, other ways no.
Stuff like 1% lows and rostok performance has been improved.
But if you were generally getting low fps across the game, don't expect much.

[sly matrix]

Top of the morning to yall, one more day of work till the weekend

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504592685428899851/1373070568789639228/image0.gif

[eager cairn]

What consumes more VRAM besides Textures?

[gritty orchid]

this guy

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[sly matrix]

PRAISE KEITH

[zinc apex]

Kef 🐀

[hard mica]

Looks like SoC's "Destroy the Duty company" quest is still bugged in EE. Just got stuck there - all Duty guys are dead but the quest doesn't complete. Freedom guys also stay alert. Any walkarounds?

[fathom cedar]

Don’t save and load during the quest

[hard mica]

I did not. Went through entering the base for the firs time, taking the quest, killing all Duty guys without a single save. Repeated that three times already ☹️

[fathom cedar]

Is there a chance one of the dutiers died before the quest was over?

Maybe before it even started. Like the previous time you came to MW

[coarse sparrow]

can someone translate what did Molit write in the last #📜┃gsc-answers ?

[nimble cipher]

elgauchostalker has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

elgauchostalker has been banned

Reason: scam

[nimble cipher]

term2t has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

term2t has been banned

Reason: scam

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

-# Who's next?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/544757291682103300/1367224622529122325/mood.gif

[thick zodiac]

Answer:

This question was way too big, so it's impossible for a bot to answer it 😄
@RaptorRanger29 thanks for the ideas, we’ll definitely take a look.

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/chevy-rhoades-gif-5354777837311049400

[coarse sparrow]

thank you

Wolf keeping out discord clean of snorks, ty

[north violet]

My main issues are the increase in vehicle size and weight (more of an issue in the US and anywhere US models are sold), and the insistence of manufacturers to put touchscreens on the center console. The touchscreen thing is even worse worse if it replaces ALL of the physical controls that would normally be there. (Subaru, I'm looking at you. Though they have finally redesigned their infotainment system which doesn't look like complete shit.)

[dire dagger]

Mid 2010s cars got none of these problems

[north violet]

Sure, but you can only drive a 10+ year old car for so long before it literally disintegrates, at least where I live. (Harsh winters and road salt destroys the roads and the vehicles up here.)

[winter stump]

Wash & wax your vehicle regularly in cold conditions, it'll last a lot longer. Especially if it's something like a Toyota.

Rustoleum also sells a rubberized undercoat you can spray on the underneath of your vehicle if you wanna be extra anal about it.

[silent blade]

Hows stalker2 worth playing yet or wait a bit more for it to cook?

[dire dagger]

You can easily just get the bottom ceramic coated once a year

Then it will literally never rust

[dire dagger]

Come back next year

[silent blade]

Bet

[north violet]

I mean, only problem is that every car up here has rust. Not much of a point for getting undercarriage coating if it's all already rusted to hell.

[dire dagger]

I bought a 10 year old car recently with a single surface rust spot caused by a panel rubbing

I got it fixed for 300 bux and now it has zero rust

[winter stump]

There's a spray that rustoleum also makes that straight up converts rust into paintable metal. Might not be as effective if it's a full thickness rust, but there's options, especially for prevention. I'm talking options that are less than $30.

[dire dagger]

Ceramic coating too

Lasts 6 months so the whole winter

[winter stump]

Ceramic, rubberized, etc.

It's easy as shit to apply lol, you go under your car & just spray everything in sight.

Maybe wear a mask and goggles. That's about it.

[north violet]

I've seen the underside of mine and many other cars up here. If they're older especially, it is literally the entire undercarriage that's rusted, not a few spots.

[dire dagger]

Depends on how bad it is

[north violet]

I'm not saying there aren't options, I'm saying that it simply wouldn't be viable for my car, especially at its current age and the number of Winters it's been through.

As I told Jack, the majority of cars that have been in the area for several years have this issue unless the owner was doing undercarriage coatings for the vehicle's entire life.

[winter stump]

True. If your entire undercarriage looks like a sheet of brown sandpaper, then there's no point.

If it's just spots of rust, that's fixable

[dire dagger]

I mean even if it’s a bit rough

Angle grinder some of it off

See what happens

[nimble cipher]

tolya47 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[north violet]

*Me poking my head out of the new hole in my car's floor*

"Bonjour."

[north violet]

That's exactly what it looks like. It's not just my car either, like I said, the Winters, the road salt, and the roads themselves absolutely destroy cars up here.

[rapid birch]

my save got courrupted twice 👍

[rapid birch]

not very happy so ive decided i have the need to off everyone

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[rapid birch]

just spent 4 hours on a new save because my last one got corrupted, got to the part where u kill the fat guy whilst looking for nestor and u need to go speak to diode , game crashes , loads game back up , all my saves are gone 💔

mann wtf this is the 2nd r
time now my saves have just randomly dissappeared after a game crash 😭

and they arnt coming backk should i try to uninstall and reinstall??

[sly matrix]

good morning masters and future masters

[safe badge]

No need to be sad, here is all my love just only for you ❤️❤️❤️

[rapid birch]

honestly the way the rope tied itself 💔

im stuck between starting a new save or just not play for two months then remember the game exists😭

[twin pulsar]

What’s the situation with the SDK? And are any modders even gonna bother to make something like Anomaly/Gamma for s2?

[winter stump]

It's about to enter the beta phase supposedly I think?

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/chubby-fat-cat-sit-stare-gif-19654475

[zinc apex]

Ranjid is evolving

[coarse sparrow]

closed beta testing atm

[coarse sparrow]

anomaly \ gamma unlikely, but possible in around 5-7 years time

[celest blaze]

i feel modders will have fix so much before any good mods can even be considered

there needs to be real and proper A-Life in the code first

we are like years away from OLR tier alife

[celest goblet]

Well we were a decade away from it when SoC hit so that isn't saying a lot on its own TBH

[celest blaze]

fair

[celest goblet]

Ultimately I think GSC is gonna have to fix the issues themselves tbh

[sly matrix]

With about one substantial update a month I think they'll get a fair way in the right direction

[hexed pebble]

I think gsc know how important modding is so I reckon the modders will be given plenty tools, people can see the coding already that's how we knew there was no a life to begin with so hopefully the modkit let's you tweak all the way to the core

[clever finch]

whats the best artifact when it comes to carrying more weight?

[celest goblet]

slow but steady progress is happening for sure

[celest goblet]

Weird Water I suppose. Use at your own risk though

[clever finch]

👍

[bright lantern]

Is there anywhere we can mention spoilers? I have a late game question where I'm not sure if the game is bugged.

[celest blaze]

#☢┃stalker-general

[bright lantern]

Cool

[sly matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783337511018823770/1360616007558762658/pop_richter_1.1.gif

[empty gorge]

skeeffaaa lets grab some alife from the center of the zone skeeefffaaaahhhhh

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/spongbob-meme-spongebob-get-a-life-fixed-get-a-life-hails-gif-25982035

[static compass]

[celest blaze]

[static compass]

Greetings my fellow glorp enjoyer

I hope the zone treats you well

[celest blaze]

[celest blaze]

It is! Playing OGSE the zone she's playing nice with me for now..

[static compass]

Very nice, very based

[celest blaze]

I hope the zone treats you well

[static compass]

Whenever I return to it, I hope the same

[tiny ember]

Anyone got the hookup for ufc tonight?

[static compass]

Get out of here stalker

So says the sky

[sly matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524246444560089099/1310347519766827088/lightning_strike.mp4?ex=6845f839&is=6844a6b9&hm=c607d187c717200f003959b5fabb959b75417c0e8cf78bac80fea7267a74080a&

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/rowlf-dog-hat-tips-hat-hat-tip-gif-15353641066928728629

[shut cosmos]

God I love this game but holy sweet mother of strelok the ai awareness and accuracy needs to be toned down

Im on my 2nd playthrough and im so tired of getting nailed by dudes I cannot see at all and theyre able to spot me in the dead of night at 100 meters away

The fact that neither of those haven't been touched is a lil frustrating

[empty gorge]

year 2 gold edition

[worn oar]

Well, ai used to lag before switching agro btw? It's really better at this point. Some instances do indeed have instant detection tho, but only when they spawn in your direction yk? Either way, ig it'll be updated either way as the team improves on the ai work

[somber stirrup]

Anybody else getting a glitch that makes the floor disappear during the duga assault? I’m stuck on some stairs and even when I load previous saves I just fly through the map

[coarse sparrow]

Anything we expect for Stalker 2 in PC Gaming show?

Like autumn-winter DLC?

[sly matrix]

Are they confirmed to show up?

[crystal merlin]

Hope so

[compact belfry]

How much is skifs artifact worth tho

[compact belfry]

How did you get kcd badge

[coarse sparrow]

by being a discord member of their server

[compact belfry]

Oh i am a member to

[celest blaze]

Edit profile > server / guild tag

doing that should give you the option to add a tag

[compact belfry]

cool

[sly matrix]

odd, I don't see a server/guild tag option

maybe I'm not in any servers that get tags

[celest blaze]

not every one has them yet its still a newish feature rolling out

[sly matrix]

darn it, not cool enough once again

[celest blaze]

im surprised this place doesnt have it yet its maxed on boosts and over 100k people

[sly matrix]

odd right?

we're not that small at this point

[coarse sparrow]

cool my dude

[wraith socket]

Did anyone ask Mol1t if this was possible for us?

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[wraith socket]

Omg
Keith

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[mint helm]

Where can I Upgrade the ||Ram-2|| Shotgun ?

[jolly igloo]

||yaniv, you can upgrade everything there|| @mint helm

[mint helm]

Cool Thanks

[jolly igloo]

is there a diffrence in who i sell stuff too? who gives the most money if so

[finite dragon]

sell EVERTHING to sidorovich

[supple wedge]

In some cases, yes.
Some people give you money for broken items and some give you more money, but you can’t sell broken items to.

[mossy totem]

where can i find the DIFFUSION CONTAINER for PSZ-91 FALCON SUIT BLUEPRINT?

[mossy totem]

Ragman from Rostok buys red weapons

[coarse sparrow]

||tried google?||

[winter aurora]

Chat, what did I miss for the DLC

[worn oar]

It is yet to come

[supple wedge]

I know, I was trying to not be specific…

[mossy totem]

?

[mossy totem]

I can't see your message. It's just a grey box

[coarse sparrow]

click on it

[mossy totem]

Tried google, youtube...nothing.

[coarse sparrow]

reddit?

[mossy totem]

On the previous versions it was only 2 Lead Containers, now after patch it has 1 Lead Container and 1 Diffusion Container

[bright lantern]

Is the syncing forever bug back on Game Pass? I'm so close to the end of the game and now it won't start.

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[placid spoke]

Original trilogy is free on ps and i was just getting ready to drop 40 bucks on it😝

[sly matrix]

top of the morning to y'all

[empty gorge]

Skeeefffaaa lets grab the life from the zona and run away with it skeeffffaaaa

[coarse sparrow]

morning, where are the LotZ patches?

[drifting niche]

When will be dlc announcement

[dire dagger]

Someday perhaps

[coarse sparrow]

Q3 roadmap waiting room

[tiny token]

meow

[celest goblet]

DLC will be announced when they won't get completely roasted for announcing paid content when the game is still in need of fixing

[celest blaze]

^ Fr they'd get cooked if they announced it now lol

[unreal raptor]

DLC hype — come on kings. The game needs finishing 😂

Fix this undercooked tripe.

[coarse sparrow]

yet nobody complained when they work on two new guns or NVGs

[celest blaze]

well NVG is supposed to be in the game

the trilogy had it

[gusty field]

Yk....true immersion comes from being silently chased by a pack of rats and then dying and releasing your last autosave was before you even started the new quest. True immersion.

[nimble cipher]

nuh_uh190 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gusty field]

....guh....

[celest goblet]

A little bit smaller in scope than a full story expansion, and presumably they will be adding them in as an update rather than a paid product

[vale depot]

will the game use unreal engine 5.6 cuz its unplayable above 60 fps, and 5.6 might make it alittle better

[empty gorge]

nvg is super hard to make its not easy. @celest goblet
no upgrade to 5.6 for sure @vale depot

[celest goblet]

Well I didn't say it was easy, but I'm fairly certain it's easier than producing a whole new main quest, areas, etc for a DLC

[empty gorge]

true

[vale depot]

ig its just gonna sit cuz i cant play it because of low framerates

idk why even make a game with experimental lighting that runs horribly on basically every spec

[celest blaze]

Fr UE5 sucks

[supple wedge]

UE5 was the latest hotness, took a while for people to see the tradeoffs.

[gritty orchid]

when update 1.6.9?

[supple wedge]

Looks great and runs decent on higher end pc. It just doesn't scale very well down

[unreal raptor]

the lumen system is total trash — it's a tech demo pushed public.

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-cat-singing-cat-gif-19744865

[dire dagger]

Idk man it’s pretty unimpressive for a tech demo

[coarse sparrow]

answered as "no" in #📜┃gsc-answers I think

[clear raft]

Two More Weeks ™️

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[celest blaze]

you too king

[sharp minnow]

I think we will never see Stalker 2 on the UE5.5+ version, since the developers chose the 5.1 version for the game and modified it to suit their needs, so it is practically impossible. I think to do this, the entire game needs to be redone!

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-gif-18174868

[nimble cipher]

crvcker has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

kentus_08cz has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gritty orchid]

[sly matrix]

as I said, we need more machineguns

[rough condor]

So, this channel's dead, looks like GSC has really killed Stalker

[winter stump]

EE & the lackluster (and far between) updates sort of made everyone lose interest.

[sly matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208247235610148864/1361743470464733335/Memento_Mori.gif

[finite dragon]

i'm still in the field learning the story. i know it's near. the thing that ate my stalker guide and two others. i think it's toying with me.

[celest blaze]

Yeah its quiet these days and people moved on but I hope it can come back to peak one day

[smoky bobcat]

You've clearly never seen an actually dead discord channel before lol.

If the last post wasn't 3+ days ago, it's not dead.

[celest blaze]

This place has fallen off HARD since the launch of S2 and EE disaster

Gonna take goodwill for the community be as active as it used to be

[dim topaz]

Maybe once the multiplayer they promised to be soon after release comes out

[celest blaze]

I hope so

[smoky bobcat]

Hey, that's a funny bit of dialogue I didn't get to experience in the game. Thank you. Man, this spoiler free channel sure is nice.

[celest blaze]

Thats hardly a spoiler

[smoky bobcat]

I disagree, and I've had this argument before, so I'd rather not have it again lol. Anything from the game I haven't seen or experienced yet is a spoiler. 🤷‍♂️

Is there no general chat for spoiler discussion?

[celest blaze]

This is it lol

[fathom cedar]

What can you even discuss in a no spoiler section lol

[smoky bobcat]

cool stuff

[hexed leaf]

Actually, I haven't played the game yet so you can't discuss it because it's spoilers

[fathom cedar]

What if you haven’t seen this stuff?

[smoky bobcat]

Some of my favorite spoiler free discussions:

Gameplay Mechanics
Art direction/style
Sound design
Performance/optimization
How you feel/vibes while playing
Favorite moments (vague, no dialogue or character names)
Roadmap discussion
etc.

[dim topaz]

Baiting used to be believable

[worldly path]

So I've been thinking about getting some of the older stalker games on my Xbox but I've been told that the older games got some bugs to them Is this true

[rough condor]

Lmao GSC drones are insufferable, are you trying to meme or something?

[wraith socket]

A screenshot is not a meme.

[storm kernel]

old games are fine just have some jank on them

[worldly path]

Any mods that fix this

[storm kernel]

the jank doesn't break game or anything it's perfectly playable vanilla

[worldly path]

Oh ok

[storm kernel]

just remember to save often so you don't die and lost two hours of progress

[worldly path]

😬 thanks for telling me

[storm kernel]

np. have fun!

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[unreal raptor]

seeing some reports of the 1.5 testing — sounds pretty minimal improvements again...

[gritty orchid]

[graceful rover]

The team has to be cooking something big because the time between these lame patches is too much

[empty gorge]

sauce?

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-gimme-the-sauce-gif-18547888

[celest blaze]

2.0 will have full working alife and 500m spawns

[unreal raptor]

@civic wyvern Videos on youtube — latest one. Sounds like progress, but slow...

Please stop patch the EE Trilogy — the old ones are fine, we have mods. EE is pap

[celest goblet]

Well things sure don't magically happen faster just because people want them to

[unreal raptor]

really...

things should happen a hell of a lot quicker half a year after release and taking everyones dollar imo. Priorities.

[rough condor]

They tend to happen faster if whoever is working on a thing knows what they're doing

[celest goblet]

Well you can say that, it works about as well as the upper management at my company always asking to tighten deadlines that were already too tight because they have no idea what they're talking about though

Happens with like every single project because they seem to think it's all easy

[civic wyvern]

Stalker 2 will keep getting better. A-Life needs work, but a few patch testers have positive words for the update to come for 1.5.

[vocal kiln]

Anyone know where to find a Collimator (for western guns, not the eastern bloc Open Collimator)? I've just made it to Rostok.

[rough condor]

Are you one of GSC's Youtubers? Saying A-Life needs work is rich, it has to be straight up implemented, loose sctipts like body looting is not enough to call it a system. Also a few voices are always positive even about the stinkiest of turds, we already have conflicting info on patch testing here so either source or kindly spare us

[civic wyvern]

Hi! Yes one of theGSC’s YouTubers—just someone passionate about the series and its potential. You’re right that A-Life still has a long way to go. When I said it “needs work,” I meant it genuinely—more as a starting point than a finished system. Looting scripts alone definitely don’t make a complete A-Life.

As for differing opinions, yeah, it’s frustrating. People experience things differently, especially in early builds or partial patches. I try to stay honest without being overly negative or blindly hyped. If something’s bad, it should be said—but hopefully in a way that stays constructive.

[safe shard]

game bad, fix it 😦

[vale quartz]

ok but try spell red now

[safe shard]

clicky profiler

[vale quartz]

what number is between 2 and 4?

[empty gorge]

🧢

ill see it to believe it (when it releases)

[worn oar]

I can confirm the overall feels.

[worn oar]

@civic wyvern I think you got what I mean. Testers can not share anything concerning anything.

Well, aside from saying good or meh kind of statements

[sly matrix]

General sentiment

[worn oar]

In your case, it's positive and I confirmed that

[worn oar]

Yeah. I really like the team since I found no leaks nor heard of anything getting leaked concerning patch contents and thats really great

[sly matrix]

Agreed, the testers are based

[worn oar]

[sly matrix]

Also putting in a hell of a lot of work

[empty gorge]

cope

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/faust-stalker-kool-aided-cope-blind-gif-10164888219948518519

[empty gorge]

so we are allowed to give general feeling of the patch as our own opinion?

i just tought its "zip it" on everything on that regards

[sly matrix]

I don't think it'd be a big issue, but I didn't specifically ask Mol1t. If you don't want to risk it that's completely fair as well

[empty gorge]

yeah nah i aint opening my mouth hha

[worn oar]

Not really not that it's allowed, but it's nearly impossible not to say it's good or bad at least, so it's somewhat acceptable but it's best if no disclosed at all

In short, it's best not to talk at all if possible

[empty gorge]

understandable

[dire dagger]

Like saying something vague like

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[dire dagger]

You will probably like what’s coming

Or I’m not so sure about this one

Got no issue

[unreal raptor]

I'll see it when i believe it — everything so far points to another lack luster inch (not step) forward for the game

[empty gorge]

yeah but some know me as a guy who worked on "alife" so my words might carry more weight

[hazy helm]

damn am I secretly talking to Iassanev?

[empty gorge]

poor Andrii Levkovskyi 😦

[empty gorge]

no like i just saw what is alife in s2 on a more technical level so i got an idea on what each update is actually doing in the "backend"

obviously not fully as a dev but also not on a user level like an end user of the product that is s2

[zinc apex]

When Stalker DLC pack for Sims 4

[dire dagger]

That’s fair

[civic wyvern]

Understood, I found out a few things yesterday but not shared it. Best to wait until the patch notes drop👍

[empty gorge]

is it even real

[hazy helm]

the joke is Stalker 2 doesnt have Alife...

[empty gorge]

well i did put it between " "

because for some the game has alife and is getting updated and for others its non existent

[loud gate]

not a tester
how would he know exactly

[loud gate]

Don't worry, you'll be Iassanev Jr. for me

[civic wyvern]

What mods do you want to see in Stalker 2?

[unreal raptor]

Something like the promised persistent A-Life (half joking)

[dire dagger]

Runs at one fps on series s

[winter stump]

Tbh does any UE5 game run above one fps on the Series S?

[unreal raptor]

I care little for the woes of the console that is owned by the company that caused the majoritty of this issue

unreal is shiiiiiiiiiiiiit3

[winter stump]

Tbh supposedly UE 5.6 is much better (although I think all UE leads to mass produced, identically looking slop), yet GSC refuse to upgrade (because that would cost money, and time since they'd have to rebuild chunks of the game).

[ripe patrol]

Making Emissions Spicy again

[rough condor]

Yet it was no problem for the studio to take the deal money and ruin the game even more in the process

[supple wedge]

In the case of Stalker 2, I think that's BS.
The game looks amazing and has had a lot of love put into making unique assets and hand crafted areas. I expected a lot more jank and "asset store"/Megascans looking stuff when it was announced it would be using it.

[finite river]

i havent played since release

does the game have alife yet???

[worthy zodiac]

It doesn't have a system like SoC/CS and the mods have. It got better since the release but the current system is not even close to the original one. We'll get an update of the system in the next patch tho. Nobody knows if it'll be good but maybe this time they'll deliver

[twin pulsar]

my money is on it being another disappointment

[worthy zodiac]

I expect the worst too

[dim topaz]

It's a weird spot where they put out a patch that fixes some things and makes npcs behave better, and I do want to say "yeah that looks good, keep it up" but it should have been in the game to begin with

[empty gorge]

early access

[nimble saddle]

Did anyone find the location of the unique 'Reyka' over-under shotgun?

[outer laurel]

Expect the worst only to be positive suprised

[unreal raptor]

I really have given up on this being playable for like 1-2 years from now. One year of GSC work to get it at least, ready to call 1.0, another year for the modders to add in the missing/never realised work.

Until then I'm just focusing on other games, ignoring Stalker 2 entirely. 2077 all over again for me.

[rough condor]

They got paid already, only need to shit out 2 dlcs and tdm multiplayer (for some reason) to not get sued by season pass owners. Now we can speculate what is going on with these patches, maybe they are too busy making dlcs to be able to actually fix the game, which they have no idea how to do anyway

[unreal raptor]

MP makes me laugh each time I read it.

[celest blaze]

I wish there was no mp man its just basic tdm id rather just play dedicated mp fps games

If stalker was gonna do mp at all it shoulda been just mp version of the map for faction wars

[celest goblet]

Well they're committed to it now

[hazy helm]

haha, the new guide doesnt have a guide to the actual modding tools just how to format and upload em to the new guidelines and storefronts

at least its smth

[celest goblet]

Yeah

[celest blaze]

💀

[hazy helm]

we'll never get a good Stalker SDK guide in english

[celest blaze]

Which is weird as English speakers are most likely the majority of their customer base

[hazy helm]

to be fair

its not like english speakers would deal with the map maker

[zinc apex]

Who's going to mod these halfbaked ass enhanced editions anyway

[dire dagger]

No one cares

Go back to the originals

[warm orchid]

Someone give me a short rundown telling me the difference between original and EE

Cuz I just noticed they appeared in my library

[dire dagger]

The Ee is a mid to bad remaster of the originals with some features and content removed

A graphics mod for the originals does more than they do

[warm orchid]

Content removed? Like what give me a good example thanks bro.

[dire dagger]

Bolt charge throws for example

[warm orchid]

Graphics changed too for better or worse?

I use graphics mods and stuff already I just want to hear ur reception on EE’s graphics change.

[dire dagger]

They used ai

Sooooooo

[warm orchid]

🙃

Ai upscale practically.

[safe shard]

🤮

[celest blaze]

Shadows addon is a solid "enhanced edition" of soc

[vale quartz]

Autumn aurora 2 is the real enhanced edition of SoC

[dim topaz]

Don't mess with us S.T.A.L.K.E.R. fans- we hate our own games!

[terse bane]

Patch 1.1 (2008) is the true enhanced edition of SoC

[celest goblet]

I like AA2 but it changes too much from vanilla to be like an enhanced edition

The core problem with this is that basically any notable mod changes the gameplay or the art style or something to make it pretty distinct from the original game

[dire dagger]

Yah we will bully you senseless for liking them

[celest goblet]

Really the sign of any true fandom tbh

[dire dagger]

Uh you like stalker 2

Clearly someone must have thrown rocks at your head

[static compass]

I recall Stalker 2 being well received

Did i miss something?

[dire dagger]

Yes clearly

[static compass]

That would be

[static compass]

Some update break the game?

[dire dagger]

The game is mid as fuck bro

[static compass]

Oh right, you've shat on it from the start, now I remember

[dire dagger]

Everyone has

You guys just love slop bro

[static compass]

Me when i lie

[dire dagger]

You guys are just very willing to except a sub par product

Which confuses me

[static compass]

9/10 on steam at launch disagrees with you

[dire dagger]

Rose tinted glasses bro

Star field suffered a similar fate

[static compass]

That game was mid af

And the reviews reflected it

[dire dagger]

Look at the current stalker 2 reviews

They also reflect this

[static compass]

Yes current

I was referring to launch

[dire dagger]

The game was a broken mess at launch lol

[static compass]

Game has potential, whereas starfield is just busted at its core

[azure snow]

this game still doesnt have npc render distance beyond 95m or proper A-Life

[dire dagger]

I agree with you on that

Also more than half the content was cut

[azure snow]

and now GSC is caught stealing modders work apparently

[static compass]

That's also true

[azure snow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/s/mx2i1qLGZE

[static compass]

Yeah that's not good if true

[azure snow]

maybe they can find someone who can increase NPC render distance and fix A-Life to steal from next at least

if theyre incapable of hiring anyone ever capable

[hazy helm]

for them to fix a-life they need to implement it first

[dire dagger]

Yah a life doesn’t exist

[static compass]

At best they'll add a system that mimics A-Life

[dire dagger]

Yah

We won’t ever have a life

[static compass]

Like the animals eating corpses and such

But aside from that it's just roaming random npcs

[azure snow]

Apparently Microsoft Flight Simulator rendered NPC's / other aircraft beyond 100m in the 1980's or something

I hope we can achieve this technology again

Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis (2001), up to 2,000 meters

[dire dagger]

Unreal engine 5 is never gonna let it happen

[azure snow]

oh hey that last one was Bohemia Interactive who is still alive

Delta Force (1998) 300m

[static compass]

[azure snow]

its almost like it shouldve been one of the very first core features you would try to get functioning and see its not and maybe change something somehow idk

[ripe patrol]

Again, LotZ is not made by GSC. If the company they hired did this then its them in hot water and not GSC. But i guess it is GSC fault for hiring such a shit show of a company for the remake

[sonic flax]

Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or if you lost your mind by interacting with all of the "new game bad" NPCs everywhere

[dire dagger]

I mean it’s accurate that it wasn’t ever gonna happen on unreal engine 5

[ripe patrol]

most of the senior mods here have lost their minds, need to touch grass and just like handsome jack said has no a life

[static compass]

This guy gets it

[dire dagger]

I’m a fully working member of society sir

I go to work every day

[ripe patrol]

[dire dagger]

And pay my taxes

[ripe patrol]

thats good, then carry on

i got nothing to add

[sonic flax]

Is it?

or did people collectively delude themselves in their "UE5 bad" bot posting?

[azure snow]

its a good thing GSC wasnt tasked with making some game like Sniper Elite, getting years into development, and then realizing max enemy distance is 95 meters

[fossil charm]

boring

[sonic flax]

Who is considered a "senior mod" though? I know a lot of them got brought on shortly before the game's release because the moderation team needed to be expanded

[static compass]

Red names are senior mods

Purple names (like myself) are just mods

[sonic flax]

hope the Duty boy is still out there fighting the good fight then

[dire dagger]

I’ll believe it when I see it

[dire dagger]

He got banned a while ago I think

[sonic flax]

a senior mod got banned?

[dire dagger]

Oh

I thought you were talking about someone else

[sonic flax]

I am not.

[dire dagger]

He’s still here

[sonic flax]

Good to hear.

[static compass]

[ripe patrol]

Apparently Grok says that this shader file is from base Xray 64 but heavily modified, same way that SSS team did their changes. It might be the case of not a direct rip of the code, but maybe heavily influenced. They still need to respond to this allegations fo sho. SSS team is literally one of the most hard working modders for anomaly and xray 64

[sonic flax]

I think I remember Epic saying "added this new feature, which will prevent A-Life of the game franchise STALKER to ever work with our engine" in one of their recent updates

So you might be right actually. 😔

[dire dagger]

I don’t think that’s the problem

Given the already extremely poor performance of stalker 2 I find it highly unlikely it could support a global life simulation system on top of all that

[sonic flax]

Watching footage from EE makes me think people collectively convinced themselves that A-Life was something it never was and are taking their "nostalgic experience" from Gamma or Anomaly.

A sort of mandela effect if you wish

[dire dagger]

There is some truth to that

[sonic flax]

Yeah, it's been a long time since I played the OGs but I am sure the "immersive persistence of NPCs" was nothing but smoke and mirrors.
Ping me if you ever saw an NPC from rookie village show up later on in a SEVA suit or Exo skeleton somewhere around the CNPP or Pripyat.

[dire dagger]

The difference was

[sonic flax]

which I am made to believe happened "a lot and was very immersive"

[dire dagger]

The immersion was never broken

If you ran away from a group of stalkers

Then ran back in their general direction they would still be there

In stalker 2 this doesn’t happen

They just despawn

[sonic flax]

if something so minor (as immersive as it might be) ruin your experience, then I don't know what to tell you.
Especially if you compare other aspects of the games.
I doubt anybody can look me straight in the face and say the OGs had a better story than S2

alternatively that unmodded SoC gunplay was better

[ripe patrol]

Look I don't need a life like people say it existed, A la anomaly warfare for example. I just want NPCs that don't disappear a soon as you walk away or that have no apparent use or goal other than target practice for the player

[dire dagger]

Most people in this server would say the originals had a better story

[ripe patrol]

If the game had npc render at at least 180-200m or random spawns, I think that no one wouldve bat an eye at the missing a life features

[sonic flax]

Yes, I too liked reading through walls of text and listen to cringe worthy accented dialogues

[dire dagger]

Yah it was charming

I’m sorry bro that’s just a shit take

Stalker 2 retcons tons of lore

[sonic flax]

Did NPCs in the original have substantiated goals?

[sonic flax]

Ok, and? lmfao

[ripe patrol]

There is elegance in simplicity . I rather have the walls of text than mocaped cinematics in stalker. But I'm also very old school and loved games like Tainted Grail

[celest goblet]

I've played enough RPGs that the reading isn't really a problem. Though I'd say other than clear sky the original games are like 90% lore and 10% narrative

[sonic flax]

Also have to know the difference between world building and story telling

[dire dagger]

They basically just failed to come up with a unique idea so they brought back the monolith

Dumbest plot direction possible

[celest goblet]

Most of the original game is traders telling you to go find hard copy paperwork for them

[ripe patrol]

Much more than Stalker2 aimlessly wandering through forests from point a to point b. I think at least on og games they'd follow roads, you'd see patrols, you'd encounter them hanging around anomaly fields, and if you stuck to them by night time you'd see them go all the way back to their hub

[sonic flax]

What would have been a more satisfying approach?

to you personally

you seem to be very opinionated about the story and retcons after all

[celest goblet]

The vibes were very strong though and that was what mattered in the end

[nimble cipher]

jesustranger has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dire dagger]

Well I’m at work so I don’t really got the time to draft up a full story rewrite atm

Hahaha

[sonic flax]

😬

[sudden vine]

bought this at launch and couldnt really play cuz of the performance. redownloading it now, has it gotten any better?

[finite dragon]

what happens here? is it safe?

here, in the channel.

[celest goblet]

never

[rotund zealot]

Alot of the retcons just seem like added information to me

Would've been cool to get like sin tho.

[sonic flax]

Definitely agree with this

[sonic flax]

Perhaps in one of the expansions

[static compass]

Like what

[static compass]

I dunno if that's a retcon

An additive retcon if anything

[crisp ruin]

[static compass]

[crisp ruin]

[static compass]

[dire dagger]

Ask crimson he knows better than me

[wise geyser]

1.5

I NEEEEED IT

(Insert the SpongeBob meme)

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpdrive-drive-glorp-drive-charborg-gif-5783026409085825543

[orchid gale]

urinal etiquette is like how you should orientate ram in a pc

[sly matrix]

I've tried but I really can't fit more than one in the same slot

[orchid gale]

Spit on it silly

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-future-drake-life-is-good-high-off-life-gif-18160700

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/bathroom-why-so-many-options-pee-urinal-gif-5621041

[nimble saddle]

I see a 7.62x39 AKM in ragman's room, was this a cut weapon like the RPD?! How sad

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[zinc apex]

glorp ❤️

[clear elm]

Give modders at most a month after sdk officialy drops and we will probably have it in the game

[gritty orchid]

cant wait for the bloodsucker on a bicycle mod remake for stalker 2

[celest blaze]

Can't wait for AN94

[bleak onyx]

just me or have the garbage and the dark valley been merged in stalker 2?

[nimble saddle]

Wonderful 🥹

[nimble saddle]

Yes sir, with a lot of other weird changes (for example the army warehouse base being relocated next to agroprom, instead of north of rostok)

[bleak onyx]

interesting, thanks lad

[hazy helm]

if people keep being annoying I would just add a 5.56 AK to the game and gaslight players about it being 7.62x39

[nimble saddle]

You can convert an AK to 5.56 with vanilla upgrades if I'm not mistaken

[celest blaze]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6jJum9TxhCM?si=AQ1u_2zv3W_AMu-q this short is showing it takes 4 grenades to kill a bandit in stalker 2? What's with that

[nimble saddle]

Oh god, I did not know about that

[celest blaze]

They didnt specify which difficulty they are on so idk if this is veteran balance issues

[nimble saddle]

Does the grenade launcher do more damage?

[stiff pasture]

When I use grenades I usually just swap to the ram and blast em while they’re stunned

[celest blaze]

I hope so

[stiff pasture]

In my experience yes

[nimble saddle]

Dope, I just got the unique groza and I'm hyped up about the GL. Is there any way to equip it without going through that stupid radial menu?

[stiff pasture]

On console/controller? Not that I’ve seen, though I haven’t really tried lmao

[nimble saddle]

No, on keyboard

[stiff pasture]

I’m seeing people say hold down fire select

I’ll try and test it later if I remember

[hazy helm]

yes and I want to make a special AK with 5.56 that everyone says is 7.62 and has 7.62 in the description

to annoy you

specifically

[stiff pasture]

Ak-101 with 7.62 duct taped to the mag

[sudden vine]

anyone know how to get rid of the weird acceleration when you move your mouse? its making this game near impossible

[naive wagon]

As @stiff pasture said, hold fire select to use GL. IIRC it doesn't reload automatically so remember to hit reload first time you select it...

[fiery jungle]

do we know when nvg are coming?

[orchid gale]

Based

I have a confession

[celest blaze]

What's up??

[wraith socket]

If you just accept that Stalker 2, takes place in an Alternate Universe,
where some people and places seem familiar, but there are slight differences,
then you will have a better time accepting the new reality that you find yourself in.
The Team that made the trilogy and the Team that made Stalker 2 are not the same.
Stalker 2 is their take or variation on the Zone. Don't get frustrated for S2 being different.

[hazy helm]

coping hard

[valid thicket]

Does anyone else on Xbox get random movement. Like you look around even though your not moving the right stick and also you move a little without touching the left stick either. As if you drank a bunch of vodka?

[gritty orchid]

maybe your controller has stick drift?

[valid thicket]

It doesn't

[gritty orchid]

then idk :/

[celest blaze]

Where is Keith..

[gritty orchid]

sorry, Keith was a little indisposed in the last few days

[valid thicket]

It works with keyboard and mouse though. Maybe you're right but it doesn't drift in any other game though

[gritty orchid]

thats because the deadzone in stalker 2 is set to 0, to give a feel of "less" input lag, its a wacky "fix" the correct thing to do would be to add an option to actually set your preferred deadzone but well /shrug

[valid thicket]

Weird it seems to work now

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

OMG
KEITH

[stiff pasture]

Reset your controller settings to default in game

[celest blaze]

Omg
Keith

[sly matrix]

PRAISE KEITH

[wise geyser]

Mosin and Kora

Or well three line rather 👌🗿👌

1.5 boutta be valid

[summer stream]

Nostalgia is deceitful. Times change, and so does everything else. I’m not sure it’s very fair for people to expect the same exact direction or product from something that was created almost two decades later from an entirely new team with access to entirely different technology. People have a hard time with change, especially when it comes to something that they value or think is special in their lives. But it’s unavoidable and a natural part of growing up.

I get the backlash for the game. It’s a series that impacted a lot of people heavily. A lot of the criticism comes from a place that ultimately means well I would imagine. But for me, the game gave me over 180 hours of genuine entertainment, and truthfully I feel lucky and happy that we even got another installment in the series, and I personally can’t let that go unnoticed. No matter the gripes I may have with the game, I think the devs took on a really tough job with stalker, considering the extremely faithful fan base, and just the unique niche that the series has is something very hard to market and make successful. Also, the situation with mods is really complicated. On one hand, Anomaly and all the other mods gave stalker its continued life, and the series probably wouldn’t have survived without them. But, mods have also created an unfair and unrealistic expectation that no developer could truly appease both og fans and newcomers with. Now add on an essentially worst case imaginable development cycle to that. Pandemic, war, team relocation, working remotely, hacks, doxxing, and leaks, office fire, etc.

[nimble cipher]

taholman93 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[worthy zodiac]

I'm glad that the devs didn't try to make yet another tacticool shooter game where most of your time is spent in your inventory instead of actually playing the game. Glad they've decided to make it closer to original games... I just wonder what A-Life will look like in the final version of the game. I wish it was an early access release tho instead of 1.0

[worthy zodiac]

What I don't really understand is why anybody cares so much about all of these small retcons. None of the original games were finished anyways (as in: they were rushed and didn't represent the original vision very well), none of them had deep lore or good stories or anything like that. All they had is a cool setting with a cool presentation but other than that OGs are just too whacky to be taken that seriously, imo.

Don't get me wrong tho, I love OGs. It's just that... I don't know, it doesn't make sense to me to care that much about these aspects of the game when they were never good in the first place (lore, story, etc).

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[celest blaze]

they were good though lol

[celest blaze]

have a good day king

[worthy zodiac]

Compared to what?

[celest blaze]

this just sounds like you're gaslighting yourself cuz you wasted money on stalker 2

the trilogy were good games on their own not everything has to be compared

[worthy zodiac]

I'm not gaslighting myself. I just have a lot of examples of better stories and not just books and movies but also other games.

[celest blaze]

why are you even comparing though lol

[worthy zodiac]

You can't know if something is "good" or "bad" without a comparison. Don't be stupid

[celest blaze]

the trilogy were good games and thats a fact they are a cult classics

[celest blaze]

even without comparing to anything the trilogy was good

this is just goofy

[worthy zodiac]

The word "good" is meaningless in a vacuum. You can say that you liked it but when you say "it's good" – it's like saying nothing

[celest blaze]

[worthy zodiac]

Because "good" doesn't mean anything if you don't know what's "bad" thus the need for comparison

[celest blaze]

that's factually incorrect

i dont need to play other games to know stalker 2 is rushed slop

[worthy zodiac]

You literally couldn't say that it's slop if you haven't played something that you don't consider to be slop, lol

[celest blaze]

wrong

performance etc

shouldnt need ai to run it on a 3000 dollar pc

[worthy zodiac]

How would you know that it has a bad performance if that's your first experience? By knowing that it could be better, right? Come on, I repeat, don't be stupid

[celest blaze]

40-60 fps with no ai on an expensive pc in 2025

[worthy zodiac]

Do you even understand that you are making an comparison to the past in this post?

Do you even understand that you are able to say "It has a bad performance" because there are games with a better performance?

[celest blaze]

id really like to know what you consider good in the first place lol

[worthy zodiac]

As an example, Morrowind is the game with a deep lore (not a good story tho). Fallout 1 is a game with a good story (not a deep lore tho). Need more examples?

OG stalker is not even close to these games in both aspects

[celest blaze]

fallout 1 isnt that great imo

its just go grab a water chip or we all die

any stalker game even 2 is better story and lore the FO1

[worthy zodiac]

That's the premise of the story. It has more than that to it and denying it is just acting in bad faith

[celest blaze]

100% theres more to fo1 but it isnt super peak

[worthy zodiac]

I don't consider it the best one. It's just an example of something that is better than OG stalker. Saying that OG stalkers have a better written story is just insane, lol (still haven't played the second one until the very end so can't judge that one)

[celest blaze]

now that is insane lol

finish clear sky

[worthy zodiac]

I meant HoC, not CS

[celest blaze]

ah

i hate that they call it stalker 2 cuz its actually stalker 4

stalker 2 makes me think of clear sky lol

[worthy zodiac]

Well, officially CS and CoP were standalone expansions sooo...

[celest blaze]

were they marketed as such?

[worthy zodiac]

I think so, yeah. I think there were interviews where these were called expansions

[celest blaze]

fair thats cool to know i never really watched outside game interviews

[worthy zodiac]

I'll try to find some sources

[celest blaze]

thanks i believe you though was just interesting to learn they were considered expansions and not standalone games

[worthy zodiac]

https://youtu.be/ohEW7ooKbxY

For example, here's an interview where CS is called "Addon" at 0:17 (Use autotranslate for subs if you don't understand russian, of course)

[celest blaze]

thank you

[worthy zodiac]

https://youtu.be/YbGsO3OSNNw

26:10 from one of the devs

[sly matrix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783337511018823770/1360616007558762658/pop_richter_1.1.gif

[celest goblet]

I certainly remember CS being priced like a full game at the time, though for CoP they offered a generous discount on steam if you owned one of the previous ones

[worthy zodiac]

It's not about prices. Back then it was kinda normal to have standalone expansions that are as big as base games. Especially when we talk about all kinds of strategy games

In the end, all of that is just marketing and there are no clear definitions that industry follows

The industry can't even decide what's RPG, lol

[celest goblet]

Yeah, and however you think about it such iterative sequels were more common too. Given the close story connection and reuse of a lot of assets it definitely has the feel of an expansion comparable in size to the original game at least.

[worthy zodiac]

Meanwhile something like Doom 2 is a full sequel

(Meanwhile Doom 64 isn't, lol)

[celest blaze]

i mean doom 2 can be run on a literal potato and doesnt really have any meaningful content

[celest goblet]

Well it's an iteration on everything they did in Doom pretty much, and a full suite of new levels

[worthy zodiac]

What I'm trying to say is that Doom 2 is very similar to Doom 1 (Same player controller, same weapons, same enemies, same assets. Just a few new enemies, a new gun and a new levelpack). Meanwhile Doom 64 isn't considered to be a full sequel while being a completely different game

[celest blaze]

ah misread

[celest goblet]

It was also an era where developers had to put out a sequel in like a year to keep up so the standards were pretty different

The tech was advancing so rapidly back then

[worthy zodiac]

To be fair, gamedevs on consoles tried to do different stuff with their sequels

Just look at super mario games, as an example

[celest goblet]

Yeah. Or like all the NES/SNES era Final Fantasy games

Those are all quite different from one another

[worthy zodiac]

I've never liked JRPGs so I'm not even sure if you are being ironic here or not, lol

Usually JRPGs are pretty similar but I'm still not sure...

[worthy zodiac]

Honestly, I think I disagree with this statement as a whole. For example, Duke Nukem devs weren't releasing their games every year and it literally "morphed" into FPS game after being a 2d platformer game...

[celest goblet]

No I am being pretty serious, they all use turn based battles but the specific mechanics get pretty different game to game

[worthy zodiac]

Interesting

Anyways, we are offtopping too much in here, lol

[worn oar]

[lunar yacht]

hii, is there a way to disable the HUD disappearing after not being used/updated for some time ?

[alpine hollow]

Stalko Erectus or Sapiens ?

[wraith socket]

Duty squad running south.

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[coarse sparrow]

1.5 soon?

[unreal raptor]

Man sometimes this game looks truly awful — i had to check that was the og trilogy

[sharp minnow]

maybe in next weak or later

[coarse sparrow]

I think they will drop: 1.5 + Q3 roadmap + open beta mods

[kind estuary]

yhello, i'am having trouble finding a copy of the boardgame of stalker, is there a recomended store?

[coarse sparrow]

u tried amazon?

[kind estuary]

Yeah, no luck
Bur meaby in different region, right

[dire dagger]

Pretty sure it was only sold via the crowd funding thing

[dire dagger]

https://ebay.us/m/Irm8d2

There it is if you realllllly want it lol

[vale quartz]

The crowdfunding ended so now ur best chance right now is buying used on ebay but it should be reprinted to be sold on stores at later date.

[kind estuary]

i could get in italian, but i doen't have the same feeling + i don't trust translator to do lore sensible translation
I the italian version of half life still hunt me in the sleep

[dire dagger]

English version is on eBay

I just posted it

[vale quartz]

or wait when it's available on amazon like other Awaken realms board games

or better if u know a boardgame store in ur vicinity and ask them if they can get it for u

[thick wolf]

Gordon Uomolibero

[kind estuary]

yeah but that 300 just base box is a bit hard on the willing to give money to stranger

[kind estuary]

yeah i'll do that mostlikey, tanks

[dire dagger]

I mean eBay offers a money back

If they don’t give what you paid for

You get the money back

Always

[kind estuary]

yeah, but shipping is 1month, in a bit more that 2 month i could get it from a local store, is just the simpler solution

[dire dagger]

Fair enough

[kind estuary]

thanks for the help👍

[dire dagger]

No problem

[oak rock]

enyone know if my 9060xt and 32 gb ram and ryzen 5 5600 can max out the game in 1080p ?

16 gb vram version not 8 version

[signal yew]

The cpu might give you some issues depending on your settings

[dire dagger]

Probably can’t max it out but

It can definitely play it

At 60 fps

[signal yew]

Jack is right, it will play perfectly fine at 60fps and will look good but not maxed out

[oak rock]

i see,soo cpu kinda old ?

[dire dagger]

The game wants v cache

[oak rock]

isnt 32mg enough ?

i got normal 5600 not g version

[signal yew]

And the cpu is a bit older and midrange for the generation

[signal yew]

5600X ?

[oak rock]

i see,the game dont have stutter enymore right

no ,just normal 5600,it same as 5600x just 1% difference or 2

[dire dagger]

Well

I’d say get a v cache cpu for your system but

I think only the 5500x3d is left now

[signal yew]

I see, it should be fine on medium 1080p 60fps.

[oak rock]

yea ,i heared amd launching some new x3d cpu

[dire dagger]

Get a 5700x3d if you can

[oak rock]

dang,i was hoping for ultra setting ,in youtube i see people really maxing out no issues,but they have 7500f cpu not the same as mine through

[oak rock]

i dont think,those even left now

nvr mind,it seem i can hit epic setting with 60 fps

[signal yew]

I have a R7 9800X3D and the 3D cache gets used

It’s just UE5 being shit

[oak rock]

i see,i just checked

i can put evertyhing into epic without fsr 60 fps no isses,lowest drop is 55 ,but yea eu5 just shit ,i wonder fsr4 with the gpu how much i will get lol

[signal yew]

The performance really tanks halfway through the campaign. Some areas are known for crashes

[coarse sparrow]

fps target?

need upscaling for anything above 60 I think

if we are talking "max out" cuz half of those settings are unoptimized I think

[placid rapids]

Hi everyone, does anyone know when the SDK will be released for ЕЕ?

[hazy helm]

its already out

[unreal raptor]

we thinking the hype train is ready for 1.5 yet?

This is the first time I'm optimistic — since launch. 😂

[stiff pasture]

It’ll be good to jump back in, took a break from S2 for a bit to let 1.5 cook

[civic wyvern]

A lot of people are excited. Hopefully we see mods at the end of the month. Would love some good ones on Xbox

[naive quest]

Hopefully they fixed alot of endgame breaking bugs lol

[worn oar]

Most are fixed

[worn oar]

Hella this one will try to cover all current roadmap points since it's the last patch in Q2

[naive quest]

i didn't know that ig then i just have a very niche bug or smt 💀 hopefully it's fixed tho cuz i can't beat the game due to it

[worn oar]

If you care to describe it to me, I might be able to give you a more precise answer

[naive quest]

shouldi move to the normal stalker general cuz itlll be kind of a spoiler i think?

[worn oar]

No problem! Write it in the other channel

I'll join you there

[storm kernel]

nah these are goofing my rig is basically at recommended (cpu is same i7 but 10th gen) and I aint hittin 60 fps at 1080p let alone 1440p w/o DLSS/framegen

graphics are good tho

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

Glorious day to you too

[crisp ruin]

[sweet lintel]

Is Alife fixed yet?

[dire dagger]

It’s gotta be added to the game first

[celest blaze]

Fr lol

[sweet lintel]

Lol

[unreal raptor]

Fixed. 😂

The turn around on patches for this game shows the semi-solid uncooked state it was slopped out in.

a hot fix takes a month, an actual patch — you are looking at quarterly cylces

[sweet lintel]

I can't play without it. Pointless to spoil the game's story before I can enjoy the real actually intended experience

[unreal raptor]

Yup — it's just slideshow of nostalgic locations now. Nothing more. No depth.

Even that slideshow looks poor in many situations due to the lighting & engine

[sweet lintel]

The setting and story is nice and all but what really made a stalker game stand above most other fps was its systems

I still have hope though ...

[unreal raptor]

for how much longer though — it's a swing and miss each patch release for me

[sweet lintel]

I don't really actually try the game each patch..so I miss the miss... and the swing

Not sure if it took this long but some of their older games also shipped broken and became perfect. I think call of pripyat was like that

I'm just waiting... maybe give it . 4 years?

No less than 2

[dire dagger]

All of them

We’re broken when they first launched

Cop was the least broken

Clear sky was the most

[sweet lintel]

So this is normal

It hasn't even been a year

I think

[dire dagger]

Yah

But

Its worse because of how much content was cut

[unreal raptor]

it's a different time — people expect better now. The industry has changed so much over that time. I used to play some broken ass games back then and think nothing of it.

Now I kinda think after the promises, cut content and state of bugs in the game. We are just beta testers.

[coarse sparrow]

there was like a 10+ year gap lol

those, who will play the game for the first time in like 2+ years time will write praises on reddit

[dire dagger]

We are cautiously optimistic

[celest blaze]

I pray they fix the game in 2 years time..

[orchid gale]

is A-Life out yet?

[dire dagger]

No :/

[orchid gale]

We are truly in peril gamers

almost as worse as being in Romania i reckon

[celest blaze]

you never told me the news btw

[orchid gale]

oh

the news is that i missed you

deeply

[celest blaze]

i miss you so much king

[orchid gale]

and that im still waiting to play zomboid with you

[celest blaze]

looks like B42 about to hit stable soon but we could always play B41 MP aswell

[orchid gale]

My finals for university are this week,but after I’m down

I’ve still never played but I’ve been playing re4, re5 and now I’m on re6 so I’m basically a zombie killing machine

[celest blaze]

Aye good luck on the finals! And fr a killing machine

[unreal raptor]

when is this patch due again? This week was it?

[celest goblet]

Sometime this month

[sly matrix]

End of the month if the current pattern holds

[unreal raptor]

Man the turn around of this makes me feel like it’s a one man studio.

[dire dagger]

Yah it’s just me

[unreal raptor]

You son of a …

[fathom cedar]

Yeah S2 will surely turn itself around

Nobody bitches about No Man’s Sky or CP2077 these days even though those games were failures at launch

If devs are persistent on updates and have a vision, it will get better.

For EE I honestly don’t have much hope because it feels like nobody in the dev team even played the trilogy lol

[crisp ruin]

[sly matrix]

PRAISE KEITH

[static compass]

Omg

Keith

[dire dagger]

I mean the originals plus a graphics overhaul mod looks better

Probably runs better too

[ripe patrol]

EE was also made by another studio not GSC

[coarse sparrow]

outsourced souless slop (currently)

here is hope they will do some patching still

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cockatoo-stop-sign-crossiant-gif-13809516215344265425

[wraith socket]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606

[fathom cedar]

With all due respect GSC was overseeing this

It’s not like they had no idea what is going on, there are FIVE people from GSC QA department in the game's credits

How can there be five people doing quality assurance and yet the game looks worse than OG in every aspect?

And stuff like mobile-level HUD remake was made specifically by GSC UI/UX designer.

I get blaming outsourced companies but they weren’t acting independently, there were still people doing the calls and checking their work.

[dim topaz]

It's like every single remaster almost (with a few exceptions)

"We selected our partner very carefully"
Remaster is a piece of sh

[fathom cedar]

Surprise-surprise, if you hire people who don’t give a crap, they won’t give a crap

Outsourcing only works if you meticulously control the workflow

[celest goblet]

And are willing to invest the appropriate resources

[fathom cedar]

And this, yes. If you hire a bunch of software engineers to improve the quality of the game’s textures, you’re getting AI crap and broken smoothing.

[wraith socket]

Let's take any discussion of the EE versions back to the Trilogy Discussions channels. Thanks.

[ripe patrol]

True, I'm not scapegoating GSC. They should've looked at any of the teams working on any of the popular trilogy mods and hired them alongside some aide to make EE. But still they already had a massive mess in their hands with S2, and wouldn't blame them for just taking what they could get (they should be blamed regardless). I think EE was anyways a way to get "modernized" trilogy to consoles, which is something no mod team could and wanted to do

They pretty much gave EE for free on PC

[fathom cedar]

Let's switch to #⭐┃trilogy-general

[ripe patrol]

It's aight, I've said what I wanted to say, but ping anyways if you wanna follow up. I'm currently getting ready for work lol

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-well-hey-there-hi-gif-19996649

[crisp ruin]

[drifting niche]

molit is online, maybe there will be answers

[crisp ruin]

Yeah he is back

[low latch]

hope 1.5 update is soon i wanna get back in 😄

[celest goblet]

Targeting next week apparently but it always depends on testing and certification going well

[low latch]

yeah i just saw that, oh well i waited since december i think i can wait another week

[worthy zodiac]

Now imagine this: it comes out and it'll say "A-Life update: part 1/5"

[low latch]

at this point i would not be surprised, i have kept up somewhat with the news since i played on 1.0 and iam not impressed, at this point A-LIFE 2.0 should be working already, what are we doing ?

[worthy zodiac]

I wish I knew what are they doing... I just hope that the final version of A-Life in s2 will reach at least SoC levels of complexity

[low latch]

we can only hope

[unreal raptor]

A-life molit — rls the beast.

[fathom cedar]

Soc levels? As in travelling in offline but ignoring enemies?

[worthy zodiac]

What do you mean? I can only judge by "kill that random guy" quests but sometimes my targets would die on their own while being far away from me. Doesn't that imply that there are offline fights in SoC?

[fathom cedar]

I’m unsure what actually causes them to die, but I’ve seen military cross the entirety of Rostok in offline alive lol

Or a very popular example the trade rep quest, when the target is one guy in bar

Always dies the moment you’re close. Never when you are coming

It’s all anecdotal anyway

[worthy zodiac]

Maybe the offline fights are there but the "offline dots" are too small to collide with each other or something? Thus it's so rare

In any case... Let's assume that there are no offline fights in official release and say "Yes, I want it to be on the same level of complexity as SoC" but including all the code that won't work in official release but can be reimplemented by the modders in the future

[celest goblet]

Yeah for whatever reason there isn't incidental offline fights in SoC at least. You have to abuse this fact pretty early on in OP-2 to avoid some key NPC deaths

But also sometimes offline NPCs can take very weird routes to places or get stuck

The latter may be a mod specific issue but no fights is vanilla

[north violet]

If the improvement is significant enough, I honestly wouldn't care if that ended up being the case.

[north violet]

Pretty sure peak A-Life functionality, as in it was the closest GSC ever got to their original vision for the system, was in Clear Sky.

When fully unleashed, what we had in CoP was pretty awesome too, but I think it was dependent on what sidequests the player completed and how they finished them.

[worthy zodiac]

I don't like the way it works in CS, tbh. It's the most persistent one and the most noticeable but it's very predictable and uneventful (Same guys fighting in the same spots over and over again)

[fathom cedar]

Clearly never had freedom capture Red Forest

Or monolith in depot

[crisp ruin]

I mean, Freedoomers got Duty... For special reasons...

[worthy zodiac]

In CS the NPCs are just following same two routes from their bases to the enemy bases. Don't know what else there is to say. Don't get me wrong, SoC "events" that are constantly respawning in the same places over and over again aren't good either but still, it has at least some kind of unpredictable stuff going on with some random NPCs walking around here and there

[fathom cedar]

Well most of the time yeah but there absolutely are scenarios where more happens. I have a screenshot of military in the rookie village.

If freedom takes over the mines in Red Forest they get their trader there

Whether CS takes the boat station is also something that only happens occasionally