⭐┃nospoilers_general

[static compass]

Oh yeah, i forgot

[granite mortar]

I didnt know Elon makes microwaves

[sand fiber]

not reeaaaally, BG3 was made with like a hundred, anyway i can't see any solid source on the 150mil number, just speculation

[static compass]

The swasticar

[dire dagger]

I mean yah

But let’s do the math

How much do the devs get per steam sale

Maybe it’s like 40 bux ish

[night crest]

they made around 10 mil from steam at this point

[sand fiber]

but it's $70 dollers right now

[dire dagger]

I’m estimate because taxes

And all that

[night crest]

steam takes 30% cut

[sand fiber]

oh wait regional prices too

[dire dagger]

I’m not so sure tbh

If we judge off the peak and are very generous and say

50k people bought it so far

That’s only 2 million

[finite dragon]

Yevhen

[sand fiber]

Owner estimations

~159.3 k by VG Insights
~182.7 k by Gamalytic
~197.8 k by PlayTracker

dat's steamdb, you gotta also factor in Gamepass and consoles

[eternal needle]

https://gamalytic.com/game/2457220 i rather rely on some real numbers

[static compass]

||Martynenko?||

[night crest]

i mean yeah avowed is presumably bloated cost-wise because its definitely an AA game with AAA dev cost

but that doesnt really affect its quality in any significant way

and avowed isnt really out of the norm for obsidian games when it comes to player numbers

poe1 had 40k on steam peak
grounded 32k
outer worlds 17k
poe2 23k
avowed 20k
pentiment had 1.3k

all of those games are fairly decent

not to mention a lot of them are on gamepass and avowed was on gamepass from day 1 and it absolutely is a gamepass game and not "buy for full price at 70€" game

[night crest]

they're nearing 200k units sold actually

[dire dagger]

Says 1.5mil engagements but

As is noted

This includes gamepass and people who played the demo

So steam sales is roughly 5 million

Probably closer to like 4.2

[sand fiber]

still, i assume it very much paid for itself, there wasn't much marketing before the release, the only times i heard about it was on game presentations

[thick wolf]

I thought they said they sold 1 mil copies shortly after it was released?

[dire dagger]

1.5 million engagements

Not sales

[night crest]

to be fair the fact obsidian is under microsoft and on gamepass probably means they're fine financially

[eternal needle]

stop the copium it obviously did not paid for itself. If you believe it you must be an idiot or bethesda fanboy. Even if it had 50mil

[night crest]

bethesda? 😭

[sand fiber]

dude it's an obsidian title

[eternal needle]

was talking about bethesda games with other guy

[thick wolf]

The post says copies sold? #📰┃announcement message

[night crest]

i wouldnt say it paid for itself yet but i wouldnt call it unsuccessful either

at least not unsuccessful in comparison to other obsidian titles

[dire dagger]

We’re not talking about stalker 2

We’re talking about avowed

[thick wolf]

Oh F, my bad. Apologies

[sand fiber]

the fact that avowed is being talked about is already a success methinks, i even saw some complaints on russian """""game journalist""""" sites

[eternal needle]

wheres the success if they lost a huge chunk of money producing that? such a dumb logic

[sand fiber]

they literally didn't, i sent a quote from microsoft that said they are happy with the sales

[night crest]

something something art idk

[night crest]

doenst necessarily mean the game made money tbh

[dire dagger]

To be fair that’s just a boiler plate statement

[sand fiber]

true

[dire dagger]

They could easily just be not telling the truth to hopefully increase sales

Which would make sense

[sand fiber]

i wouldn't put past microsoft sinking an insane sum of money into a project and then not marketing it, but dunno

[dire dagger]

What happened to concord

But I don’t think this is even close to that bad

[night crest]

yeah, absolutely not comparable tbh

[dire dagger]

At best I think the game will barely break even or slightly fall short

[night crest]

also, kcd2 is 100% stealing some ammount of players

not a large part but definitely some

im one of them 🗣️

[dire dagger]

I think kcd2 is a better comparison to stalker 2

[zinc apex]

Kcd has better alife

[dire dagger]

In terms of quality of game

[sand fiber]

i love releasing philosophically dead games into an oversaturated market, it's like the same mistake every new indie dev made a couple a years ago when the youtube shorts godot/unity development was popular, "We're gonna make a multiplayer game that's like Counter Strike/Valorant!", only on Sony scale

[night crest]

absolutely not kcd2 is miles better than stalker 2 💔

[dire dagger]

That’s what I meant

But it’s similarly successful

[night crest]

Measuring the value of art by its quantity of attention is inanely reductionist

[dire dagger]

But stalker 2 is just under cooked

[sand fiber]

why did they delay release on gog 😭😭

[dire dagger]

Should have launched in q1 2026

I think about what they said about tears of the kingdom love it or hate it isn’t important in this case but

[night crest]

severely undercooked

and the release was mismanaged 🗣️

[dire dagger]

They said the game was done over a year before launch

And spent over a year just fixing it

[sand fiber]

nintendo should be bombed

[night crest]

💀

[dire dagger]

Sure but not important to the point I’m making

It’s a similar scope of game

And it took them over a year to debug and fix everything

In preparation for launch

[waxen axle]

Roadmap early 2025

[dire dagger]

Stalker 2 clearly wasn’t give that time

[sand fiber]

i'd love to start a contrarian debate about how stalker 2 is actually bad or smth but i haven't played the game :(

[dire dagger]

Game is fine

As is it’s like a 7.5/10

[waxen axle]

7.5/10 ?

[night crest]

game is just fine imo

i really liked it when i played it but after taking time off i came off the high and its not THAT great

[dire dagger]

All ironed out it would be like a 8.5/10

[sand fiber]

they shouldn't have used ue5.......

[night crest]

depends how far they go tbh

[waxen axle]

Seriously ? What make you says it deserve a 7.5/10 if not all the content is here ? Those dlc is just a facade to justify without justifying there lack of competence and time.

[sand fiber]

what dlc

[waxen axle]

Cnpp ?

[static compass]

What's bro on about?

[sand fiber]

you talking about Limansk DLC or?

[storm kernel]

what is lil bro blabbering about 😭

[drowsy blade]

something about cut content or…?

[celest portal]

dlc with fishing update

[dire dagger]

The game had nearly all the content past 2/3 of the way cut

[storm kernel]

real

[drowsy blade]

[sand fiber]

hakita on the devteam?!?!

[zinc apex]

5/10 because fundamental gamesystem is missing

[sand fiber]

you mean the gameplay loop??

[night crest]

more like 1/3 tbh from what it feels like

[dire dagger]

Idk what you mean by gameplay loop

[drowsy blade]

A Life I think he means

[sand fiber]

a-life is soooooooooo much not the fundamental game system

[static compass]

It's always about A-Life

[zinc apex]

What 😂

[static compass]

[dire dagger]

Nah game is fine till the half way point but it slowly tapers off till you reach nothing past that point

Like there are literally zero side quests in Pripyat

ZERO

[zinc apex]

Alife is basically the usp of the stalker series and adds repeatability. But yea gameplay loop is lacking too to an amount

[dire dagger]

Gameplay loop is just like the originals

Idk what yall mean

[sand fiber]

it's never been, unironically, trilogy's gameplay was about shooting people and exploring locations, A-life is just a name for persistent simulation of stalkers that should theoretically enhance the exploration element

[dire dagger]

You kill guys sell there stuff to buy and upgrade your stuff

[night crest]

i mean its a steady decline but like, first two zones have the same ammount of sidequests as the rest of the game

[zinc apex]

Name a game which has this then?

[sand fiber]

none, really

[static compass]

There's literally a mod for Fallout 4 called NPC's travel that basically puts A-Life in that game

[zinc apex]

Yooo wheres that guy always looking out for new game plus? Check #📺┃media

[sand fiber]

i think the name "a-life" melts people's brains, when in reality as the systems exist in the trilogy it's just the equivalent of Skyrim NPC scheduling

[zinc apex]

So it's their usp and the community loves the system. Its why stalker games are one of the most immersive experience you can have in gaming

[dire dagger]

The usp sucks in stalker 2

So maybe that tells us all we need to know

[zinc apex]

There's nothing dynamic about hardcoded daily routines tbh

[static compass]

It's just an NPC travelling mod

[drowsy blade]

Skif’s Pistol is literally all you need

[dire dagger]

Until you got apsb or rhino

Skifs pistols is just the best

[rugged edge]

I really hope the first expansion expands on gameplay in pripyat

[zinc apex]

Bald Skif is a weapon himself

[waxen axle]

The Game is missing content and they will make thoses two dlc

[dire dagger]

Nope

The dlc will be all original content

[drowsy blade]

No they won’t, they already said cut content will be free and come out before(?) the DLC

[rugged edge]

me when the conspiracy crackpipe hits

[dire dagger]

All cut content that is re added will be added for free

[sand fiber]

it's a fundamental and basic description of gameplay, a good example would be a classic roguelike, you kill people & explore locations (take on a challenge) > you levelup and get stronger (get a reward) > you continue to kill people & explore locations

[dire dagger]

Well yah sorry

I explained that poorly

[waxen axle]

They make money on us with those dlc

[dire dagger]

That’s how a dlc works yes

[sand fiber]

Yes, that's why SoC was criticized HEAVILY for lying about A-life

[eternal needle]

is there finally alife 2.0 working already? stopped playing that game for a long while

[granite mortar]

Mudrunner had free DLCs

[dire dagger]

I meant idk how stalker 2s gameplay loop is much different from the original

[rugged edge]

I still have yet to see where anyone has "lied", beyond changing words on the steam page

[dire dagger]

They just haven’t been completely honest in regards to the function of a life

[waxen axle]

dlc where roadmap where

[static compass]

No lol

[night crest]

or the lack of finish the game has, prior to release

[static compass]

When they fix bugs

[dire dagger]

[zinc apex]

It isn't really

[dire dagger]

Again

Game should have launched in q1 2026

[drowsy blade]

you do understand they still have to… make the DLC right? And while a roadmap would be nice they have to fix the game first before they make any timeline promises about content updates.

[dire dagger]

Spent all of 2025 fixing bugs

[zinc apex]

Gameplay was always subject to change and add flavour by mods

[dire dagger]

How

[sand fiber]

people see "a-life", a meaningless buzzword, they assign their own arbitrary meaning to it (IF ANY), they hear the public opinion and get influenced by it

it's honestly GSC's fault for falling in the same trap as 20 (!!!) years ago and marketing the game around a buzzword

[drowsy blade]

I doubt GSC’s investors at Microsoft would’ve allowed that unfortunately

[dire dagger]

Exactly

But it’s what should have happened

[zinc apex]

Unmodded vanilla trilOG was one time playthrough each. Basically like S2. You progress until you finish the story. Basic story based progression. For me at least

[silver warren]

I think anyone who's been a fan of the franchise knows what A-Life is and how it's supposed to funtion and act

[sand fiber]

No, it's a buzzword.

[zinc apex]

This. I don't know why would anyone call this an useless buzzword lol. Its clear what alife is and why its unique

[dire dagger]

Tbh a life’s biggest issue atm is caused by stuff spawning to close to you

[waxen axle]

I france we have cgt, i swear all of u need to work at cgt.

[dire dagger]

Idk what that is

[eternal needle]

i dont think you even know what alife in previous games was

[waxen axle]

It’s like entrainor of mbappe

[dire dagger]

I do

I played

[sharp wadi]

I quit because of the crashing and the fact that I put 500 rounds in one enemy and it did nothing

[dire dagger]

But I’m simply being realistic

[gritty orchid]

use ap bullets and it will do something

[dire dagger]

Unreal engine 5 will always bog this system down

[sharp wadi]

It's not armor and shouldn't matter if it's AP at that point

[sand fiber]

A-life is a buzzword meant for "well uhhhhh the game is dynamic (another buzzword)", it's such a buzzword that even the modders, who played this game since 2007 fail to like, conceptualize what a proper simulation would look like

[static compass]

[static compass]

Bruh

[dire dagger]

Idk how it could ever exist in a way that wouldn’t render the game unplayable

[silver warren]

I recently quit around 100hours in because I went from zero crashes, to crashing every five to ten minutes after the most recent update

[dire dagger]

Shouldn’t be the case but

I’m just being realistic here

[sand fiber]

trueeee

[gritty orchid]

stalker 2 was never meant to be a realistic shooter, idk why people always assume that its
they could've given skif powers for all we know and it would fit the lore somehow.

[silver warren]

Yep, UE5 is why this game is the way it is honestly

[sand fiber]

godot should've been the engine of choice...

[sharp wadi]

What part about 500 rounds into an enemy do you not understand? If you think that has anything to do with realism, something is wrong.

[celest portal]

Power to materialize his house from thin air

[static compass]

Because Gamma tacticool has ruined people's perception of what Stalker is supposed to be

[gritty orchid]

skill issue, 2 shots to the head max will kill someone, 3 or 4 tops if hes using exo

[sharp wadi]

It's not even a human.

[dire dagger]

Or they should’ve just kept it on eu4

[sand fiber]

that's literally how SoC worked, nothing changed

[zinc apex]

Stalker 2 shouldve been made with RPG Maker XP

[sharp wadi]

Her derp, use AP, her derp it's not realism. Some serious cope in here.

[silver warren]

sounds like a skill issue

[sharp wadi]

I've killed those enemies plenty of times. Suddenly 500 rounds did nothing to one. "Her derp skill issue". You smoke too much of the bad stuff guy.

[sand fiber]

my biggest gripe with UE is that it makes everything look same-y, UE5 seems to be much worse in that regard, but honestly i think there was some lack of direction in the first place

[dire dagger]

I mean even so

Ue4 would have kept the game playable

For far more people

[sand fiber]

yuuuup

[dire dagger]

And it would have looked just about the same as it does now

Sure lighting effects might have been not as good but

[drowsy blade]

Adobe Flashplayer

[dire dagger]

Honestly who cares

[silver warren]

RIP

[dire dagger]

What we got isn’t really worth the trade off

[sand fiber]

by the way, this is the only UE game that looks cool
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1639790/Northern_Journey/

[sharp wadi]

I've never liked UE. Most games made with it turn out to be garbage.

[sand fiber]

isn't Lumen like the primary reason why it runs and looks like dogshit

[silver warren]

Bro I just put that in my cart last night lol

[dire dagger]

Probably yah

And it looks bad

It’s insanely noisy

[night crest]

my stalker 2 didnt run like dogshit 🙏

[gritty orchid]

lmao, that third picture in the store page

[sand fiber]

TAA, also, god i fuсking hate TAA

[dire dagger]

The reflections are barely even functional in my places

[sharp wadi]

They've always put out tech demos to make people salivate about unrealistic things that don't even look good and would never show up in games. Then the developer tries to make that real and doesn't think about gameplay.

[silver warren]

Mine looks great

[dire dagger]

Look closer

[waxen axle]

@dire dagger More seriously, you seem to have really grasped the subject. I no longer have a PC and I was planning to buy a new one just to s2, is it worth it?

[finite dragon]

Man when I wake up and go wash my teeth, I have to do it blind because the mirror reflections are so bad

[dire dagger]

Wait a while

If you want to play a game that you are likely to enjoy

I’d wait

[sand fiber]

i bought a 7600 and it BARELY ran at 40 in 1.0, 7600 isn't a very powerful card, but like maaan, it's able to run BG3 on ultra just fine, an extremely good-looking game (with an in-house engine that is!)

[mellow locust]

Yeah not worth it yet. There are still a big bucket of problems to solve

[silver warren]

It feels like there's more problems now than a month ago

[night crest]

i have a 7900xt and 7800x3d and i got native below 100 and 150 with fsr

[sand fiber]

bourgeoisie.......

[night crest]

everything on max*

[dire dagger]

Game has a massive Radeon bias

[silver warren]

I have one of the most hated graphics cards out rn and it runs pretty dang well with high and max settings. under 100fps but that doesnt bug me

[dire dagger]

Like it’s comical

Which is what it is tbh

But still very funny

[night crest]

on release ive talked to people with 4090's who's game ran at half the fps i had 😭

[sand fiber]

what's da card

[dire dagger]

Yah this is what I keep telling people

lol

My 3090 screams in the game

And my cpu is a 7950x3d

[silver warren]

4060ti 16gb

[sharp wadi]

Runs pretty good on my 3070, minus the crashing

[night crest]

4060ti 😭

[sand fiber]

okay i see why

[silver warren]

i stay around 80fps

[night crest]

its not hated because its a BAD card

its hated because its an OVERPRICED card

[sand fiber]

16gb is nice though... i prolly shouldn't have bought a 7600 with just 8GB

[sharp wadi]

Except when it decides to randomly drop to -10 fps on rare occasions while standing inside a building doing nothing

[silver warren]

I got it on black friday a while back for $315

[night crest]

depends when you got it, but yeah youre not cooking much with 8gb

[drowsy blade]

I have an old 2060 super and it’s managed just fine with full medium settings (I do not know how)

Although occasionally the game with hitch really bad. But since the 1.2.1 update I’ve only crashed once overall (at Rostok)

[dire dagger]

If you want to run stalker 2 we’ll buy a 7900 xtx a set of 26gbps memory chips swap the chips onto the Radeon

Then run it with a 700 watt power limit

[sharp wadi]

Only uses <81% of 8GB on 3070 when I've tested it with HWInfo @ 1440

[dire dagger]

[night crest]

7700xt 🗣️

[silver warren]

yeah the vram is nice. Im also 13700kf w/ 64gb 7200mt DDr5

[night crest]

?????? what kind of a mismatched build is that

[sand fiber]

like erguhhhhh in autumn or smth, my budget was 30k rubles top and it was the only card that i could buy locally for this price, i could've waited for 8600 but that's still like a year ago

there was a very nice 6700xt, but i'd have to ship it and i kinda missed it, so it sold out quickly

[silver warren]

the prebuilt kind that only came with one 16gb ram stick that sucked so i went overboard replacing it

[dire dagger]

[night crest]

you have a garbage gpu paired with top of the line cpu and ram 😭

[dire dagger]

Top of the line

Lmfao

[silver warren]

lol

[celest blaze]

Still better then any console user for many years

[dire dagger]

7800x3d would smoke that cpu

[night crest]

comparatively 💀

[silver warren]

I booted up my type s for the first time since going pc the other day... holy crap

[dire dagger]

I’m honestly thought considering buying and modifying a 7900 xtx

Depending on what the new Radeons look like

[night crest]

and the 7800x3d is better for gaming but not for productivity

[silver warren]

yeah i do music too

[sand fiber]

not really lmfao

[celest blaze]

Proof?

[silver warren]

stalker 2 on console looks like cod

[dire dagger]

9950x3d or 7950x3d

but

You got a point

Not the same calibre of cpu

[silver warren]

id need a new mb. and id want to go radeon cpu as well. basically new build

[dire dagger]

Radeon doesn’t make CPU’s

Ryzen is a cpu

[silver warren]

amd excuse me

[night crest]

yes really 😭 4060ti is worse when it comes to the bus and ram but you still get better performance on the 4060ti due to dlss3 and the fact you can change settings 🗣️

[celest blaze]

4060ti 16 gig isn't as good as my 4070ti but I'd still take that over ever going back to clownsole

And now dlss 4@night crest

[night crest]

oh wait the 16gb right, in that case 4060ti is miles better i was going off of the 8gb 😭

[sand fiber]

looked up some tests, it seems 4060 is kinda the same as xbox SX, and 4060ti isn't all that far

[dire dagger]

Quad frame gen bad

[celest blaze]

Oh yeah only talking about the 16gb one

[night crest]

the 8gb one is better in most ways and fumbles in some ways mechanically

the 16gb one is just better 💀

[silver warren]

Yes it's the 16gb, Im just going to run it till it burns then upgrade. It's been fine for my needs, plays cyberpunk pretty dang well too, but I mostly play older games.

[storm kernel]

damn my 4070 is also much better.

[dire dagger]

It will take like 10 years for it to burn

[night crest]

and im comparing it to the ps5pro 😭

[sand fiber]

cyberpunk on rx584 in glorious 1680x1050 with FSR 2.1 on balanced my beloved....

[silver warren]

1440 superiority

[celest blaze]

Ps5 pro is such a SCAM

[storm kernel]

also Fable got delayed which kinda sucks

[night crest]

your 4060ti will not burn

[dire dagger]

Fable is probably gonna be bad

[sand fiber]

what the hell is fable

[silver warren]

Just the trailer for fable made me physically ill

[celest blaze]

Fable ended after 2 as 3 was awful

[nimble cipher]

yaku91 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[silver warren]

Broccoli simulator

[nimble cipher]

yaku91 has been banned

Reason: scam

[dire dagger]

If the new fable has anything to do with peter molyneux

It’s probably bad

[celest blaze]

Quick as fuck snipe lol

Saw the 50 dollar steam link

[night crest]

play avowed instead

[celest blaze]

Play stalker teamlite mod NOW

[sand fiber]

isn't it like one of those "videogame" videogame titles that used to be brought up like ten years ago

[celest blaze]

How don't you know fable 💀

[storm kernel]

I'll get it maybe on sale. I'm honestly waiting for DOOM Dark Ages first

[celest blaze]

Fable 1 and 2 were goated

[night crest]

youll be waiting a while

[sand fiber]

i only play esoteric transfem visual novels from itch io sorry

[dire dagger]

It’s coming soon in may

[celest blaze]

Based

[dire dagger]

I thought

[celest blaze]

Maybe I'm just old

[dire dagger]

I could read the rest of the original fate vn

[sand fiber]

i have heard of it but only in the same discussions where assassin's creed and GTA would get brought up

[dire dagger]

The original version

With the sauce

[silver warren]

Ya'll see the new AC got leaked?

[celest blaze]

To be fair fable 1 did come out 21 years ago

[storm kernel]

goofy ahh game

[celest blaze]

Not many talk about it

[sand fiber]

literally who cares it's a dead franchise, i played the first part and it was SO unbearable, had it in me to finish the second, even enjoyed it, but by god is it mid

[storm kernel]

ghost of tsushima mogs assassins creed shadows

[celest blaze]

Isn't Japan trying to shut down the new AC ?

Apparently they feel ubisoft is dissing their culture I heard

[night crest]

everyone is 💔

[storm kernel]

assassins creed literally has the word "ass" in it twice like dawg 💀

[silver warren]

Let me presume and clarify... The FIRST Ghost Of Tsushima mogs

[celest blaze]

Only game I want ass in is stalker Ong

[storm kernel]

I think its because you could knock over stuff like pots in some of the religious shrines which imo that drama is kinda stupid because Assassins Creed Valhalla literally had you pillaging monestaries as a game objective 💀

[sand fiber]

it's like one of the xbox titles, right?

i looked up some original xbox gameplay on youtube, why is it an ocarina of time ripoff

[celest blaze]

you only get one warning delete this

We mute for this

[sand fiber]

it's like if they added zelda UI to witcher 1, kinda cool lmfao

[night crest]

not even that lmao

[celest blaze]

It plays nothing like ocarina of time

[celest portal]

[celest blaze]

They can't be compared

[storm kernel]

it has a much more branching narrative and more moral choices iirc

[sand fiber]

yes that's why i said looks like

[celest blaze]

True I was distracted by that horny poster

[storm kernel]

wait so what even caused that drama? I thought I saw some goofballs seething over that

[silver warren]

alright alright. I thought it was funny. not horny

[celest blaze]

You didn't know its all good it got real bad

Mfs talking about freak stuff

[night crest]

blatant disregard for the japanese culture and lots of stereotyping while they pride themselves as being "authentic"

[celest blaze]

We had mfs in chat at like 4am on the Westcoast talking about how they wanna blow snorks backs out, breed them, fill them up, chain etc

[silver warren]

I was here for a small bit of that I think, wasnt that right after server went community? I took a break after checking chat lol

[dire dagger]

Stalker 2 romance mod

[celest portal]

Richter

[sand fiber]

people got mad because yasuke (a real japanese black man) was in the game

[dire dagger]

Majoras mask was better

[celest blaze]

Didn't they also have hiphop music play when the black protagonist fought ?

[dire dagger]

Yes

[silver warren]

yes

[sand fiber]

not even japanese people mind you, just westerners

[celest blaze]

But not for the woman ?

[celest blaze]

Controversial

[zinc apex]

Absolute sane behaviour

[sand fiber]

LMFAO

[dire dagger]

They got mad because there is like 4 pages of text written about him

[storm kernel]

I think that is a far more relevant criticism. They had shit like using a One Piece katana for promotion and using flags from a reenactment club instead of actual historical flags. Also they released promotional material which alluded to the hiroshima and nagasaki bombings which is actually insane

[night crest]

not really, only the really dumb people get mad about THAT, its moreso the portrayal of him

[celest blaze]

💀

[dire dagger]

The source they used for him was a disgraced historian

[sand fiber]

that's generally how historical sources work

[storm kernel]

another stupid drama. Mfs acting like Assassins Creed ever was about 100% "historical accuracy"

[celest blaze]

What's if they allowed us to be at Hiroshima lol

[dire dagger]

Who had basically made up an entirely fictional back story for him all of which is entirely false

[night crest]

the delayed release date was on a 20th anniversary of a national tragedy too

and the promo boxes they sent out had "japanese writing" on them which was just nonsense 😭

[dire dagger]

That’s why the internet got mad

[silver warren]

Last good AC was unity change my mind. Only because of the animations too, story was meh

[sand fiber]

that's generally how historical sources work

[celest blaze]

I can't wait for ubisoft to die

[dire dagger]

Yes but the actual historical documents about him don’t mention he’s a samurai

He just kinda exist

And didn’t do anything relevant or interesting

[silver warren]

You dont want to pay to play all your games and only rent them from the publisher forever?

[celest blaze]

[night crest]

old ACs werent historically accurate either but they didnt blatantly disregard history while priding themselves on how authentic the game is

same goes for the architecture, the buildings in shadows are a weird cultural mishmash from different periods, while in unity you had notre dame 💀

[sand fiber]

that's why AC is a fictional video game, it's kinda the premise of the series to take real events and people and spice it up with some fiction

[dire dagger]

But the difference is yaski is a real person

[zinc apex]

The kid named Ubisoft on this server rn =

[dire dagger]

None of these other characters are

[night crest]

Yasuke wouldve been THE ac shadows protagonist imo if they actually made him an interesting character and without the use of hiphop combat music 😭

[dire dagger]

Then they made merch with him posing next to the gate that survived the atomic bombings

[celest portal]

Assassin's Creed right? For some reason I first thought you guys were saying air conditioner.

[dire dagger]

Which as you can imagine didn’t make people happy

[sand fiber]

so is the karl marx of AC Unity, who spouts some very non-communist things in the game, didn't see much discourse over that

[night crest]

AC includes a lot of real people who do very fictionized stuff

[dire dagger]

You don’t play as him though

[sand fiber]

OKAY LMFAO

[dire dagger]

That’s what people are upset about

[storm kernel]

oh yeah that as well.

Funny thing about that, Dominos made a post joking about the game getting delayed, and Ubislop responded to them saying "wanna host a pizza party"

Either they're completely oblivious to the fact their game is now delayed to the anniversary of one of the largest terror attacks in Japan, or they doing this on purpose

[dire dagger]

I’m dead ass

lol

[night crest]

all the marketing made me think someone inside ubi is actively sabotaging the game 😭

[celest blaze]

They are

Ubisoft released 2 nft games after starwars outlaws someone's trying to kill from the inside

[night crest]

13 battle royale games in development 🗣️

[storm kernel]

Sony must have some kind of undercover operative sabotaging Shadows so Ghost of Yotei is guraranteed success at least on PS

[celest blaze]

Rare French L imo

[sand fiber]

these sound like excuses tbh, the weeb culture on the web is extremely right-wing, and right wingers don't like black people, especially not in their media, i saw westerners rage edit the actual JP wikipedia yasuke page and pretending to be japanese with google translate, i also saw countless jokes with countless n-words in the russian segment of the internet

[storm kernel]

Oh yeah that as well 💀

Who approved this?

[storm kernel]

jokes with countless n-words in the russian segment of the internet

Russians being racist? My word! How unpredictable!!

[dire dagger]

Look I’m just saying what people are upset about idc either way wasn’t gonna buy the game regardless

[dire dagger]

Idk lol

[night crest]

literal inside job 😭

[celest portal]

[dire dagger]

They also stole some Japanese reenactment groups flag for some reason but

The group was like yah please take that out the game and they did

[sand fiber]

idk those don't look the same
https://www.france-figurines.fr/104819-large_default/assassins-creed-shadows-figurine-qlectors-naoe-yasuke-pure-arts.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Nagasaki_One_Legged_Torii_C1946.jpg

[dire dagger]

Apparently there’s only one gate like that

That’s why the connection was made

[storm kernel]

it's about the symbolism of the one legged torii

[sand fiber]

i wouldn't put it past ubisoft, especially after the yasuke-hiphop trailer lmfao, but this does seem like concerntrolling

[storm kernel]

imagine if Ubislop was making an assassins creed game in America and released a promotional figure which had two identical-looking towers next to each other

[dire dagger]

Basically this ^

To be fair we’re also not Japanese so

[sand fiber]

okay but obsessing over a single tragedy so much is kinda an american only thing

[dire dagger]

Apparently it meant a lot to the Japanese people

[night crest]

not really true?

[sand fiber]

i'm only learning JP so i can't go to their internets and check but y'know, vibes

[dire dagger]

I mean idk it was a pretty big deal

[sand fiber]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torii nope

[dire dagger]

With one leg

[night crest]

torii itself nah but the one legged half broken one yeah 😭

[tiny token]

guess my next message

[dire dagger]

It’s gonna be meow

[tiny token]

meow

[sand fiber]

become a puppygirl, bark instead

[storm kernel]

false

[dire dagger]

Alright

[celest blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1050077010510225472/1163791387397992458/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif

Duty fans

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-6291937884935153335

[dire dagger]

That’s a women though so it can’t be a duty member

[celest blaze]

True

Monolith

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/monolith-preacher-games-stalker-gif-19391373

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/2001-apes-monolith-gif-1664011066935987694

[night crest]

average monolith enjoyer

[dire dagger]

That’s being generous

Most of them are not much more than walking vegetables

[silver warren]

I'm here for it.

[night crest]

unlike your dad

[dire dagger]

Owned

Shadows won’t save Ubisoft

I think there just doomed regardless

[silver warren]

One can only hope

They've been cranking out lazy slop for ten years

[storm kernel]

Honestly I hope they shut down and all their IPs are bought by studios that care

[silver warren]

This has been my wish for Disney since 2012

[static compass]

I hope Ubisoft dies

[storm kernel]

Rayman Legends and Siege were lowkey their last good games

[static compass]

Me and that company have it out

I'll never give them another penny of my money

Ong

[dire dagger]

They made uno

That’s when they peaked

[silver warren]

As a life long Tom Clancy game nerd... Seige sucks big booty

[static compass]

Apparently the Division 2 has Stalker bundles

My bf wants me to play the Division 2

I'd be tempted to get the bundle

Just because

GSC gets a cut

[storm kernel]

its a fun game and I dont really play other tom clancy games so it's fine for me

[sand fiber]

disney should be bombed like nintendo....
they're the only reason the copyright and IP laws are so fuсked

[night crest]

resist

[silver warren]

The first Division was great for the first like six months then they killed it with changes and updates, rendered it unplayable unless you grind every single day... which i was doing at the time and then quit because they made it impossible

[static compass]

[storm kernel]

man at least Nintendo puts out a good game from time to time

[dire dagger]

I will instead give all my money to Mazda

They deserve my money

[silver warren]

You see the new RX7 is straight 6?

[storm kernel]

disney can BARELY manage releasing an alright movie

[dire dagger]

What since when

It was suppose to be a hybrid twin rotor

[sand fiber]

i kept seeing hte ughhh red hulk movie ads because of my vpn it looked so hilarious like

[silver warren]

I was reading about it yesterday, same engine that's in one of their crossovers but tuned. They're also co building ANOTHER new Supra with Toyota

[dire dagger]

If it doesn’t have a rotary

It’s not an rx7

[sand fiber]

yeah man red hulk is a president or something that's cool

[storm kernel]

"It's over Red Hulk!! I'm Captain America, and this is my Brave New World!!!"

This unironically happens in the movie. This is not a joke.

[dire dagger]

And then he brave new worlded everywhere

[storm kernel]

it was such a stupid movie but it had some funny parts. The "actual" villain (idk if I'm allowed to put spoilers of the movie here) is actually stupid

[sand fiber]

i mean villains in real life do tend to be stupid

[static compass]

This is no spoilers for stalker

In my opinion, movies are fair game

[dire dagger]

Spoilers for bad movies I’m never gonna watch are fair game

[night crest]

they're not games dumbass 🗣️

[static compass]

Bro what

[storm kernel]

Red Hulk: "Heh we BOTH know it would take a dragon to defeat me!"

Cap: "I happen to know someone who's... Like a Dragon"

[silver warren]

KIRYUUUUUUU

[dire dagger]

Holy shit

[static compass]

Yakuza crossover

Cinema

[night crest]

Yakuza more like Yakuz-nah amirite

[silver warren]

I'd preorder tickets to that

[dire dagger]

everyone disliked that

[sand fiber]

should i pirate all the yakuza games from gog

[silver warren]

Majima joins the Avengers and just harasses Hulk the whole time

[storm kernel]

anyways the real villain is this green dude with tumors on his head or some goofy shit like that and his "plan" is to secretly put gamma radiation in the heart pills of the President to turn him into Red Hulk and ruin his political career from the stress of international relations with Japan collapsing because the big monster from that one stupid ass marvel movie nobody saw but me has Adamantium which Japan and the US wants and the green tumor dude made it look like the US stole Japan's adamantium so now they're at the brink of war

[storm kernel]

that happens in the movie as well btw

[silver warren]

That sounds unbearble. I haven't seen any super hero movies since the first Avengers besides Deadpool and Wolverine

[night crest]

keep it that way

[storm kernel]

deadpool and wolverine was a fun movie

[silver warren]

Plan on it

[night crest]

play avowed instead

elaborate

[storm kernel]

real shit

[silver warren]

I didn't even like Outer Worlds, and from what I've seen of Avowed... I'm good

[night crest]

what youve seen of Avowed is mostly ragebait tbh

[silver warren]

I'll stick with New Vegas

[latent kite]

Outer worlds was mid

Avowed is also mid

[fair jackal]

@dire dagger i've also seen stuff about letting people destroy certain types of shrines and stuff.

[silver warren]

Obsidians current art direction alone is enough for me to scoff at it

[storm kernel]

"Oh my Fauci!!! The heckin' water physicsrinos are 0.0000001% less detailed than Skyrim! This is the worst heckin' video gamerino ever made!!!"

[dire dagger]

Idk anything about that

But maybe

[night crest]

valid, they've had the same art direction since poe1 🗣️

[storm kernel]

yeah but assassins creed valhalla also had that

[fair jackal]

it's a specific type of shrines, like there is even law about them in media

[static compass]

Assassin's Creed?

More like Assassin's Mid

[silver warren]

Same reason I couldn't get in to Outer Worlds, terrible to look at

[static compass]

Avowed completely changed tone after its reveal trailer

[sand fiber]

play FO1-2, Arcanum, VTMB, Planescape, Pillars, Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity

[night crest]

yeah but then again so is new vegas

[silver warren]

Most Based comment

[storm kernel]

So what? It's a video game. Being able to mess with shrines is no different to how stuff like GTA and RDR lets you kill civiliand and feed them to alligators

[night crest]

reveal trailer was done by an outside company prior to any type of game existing so, yk

[static compass]

New Vegas is a great game but God damn is it ugly in today's day and age

[silver warren]

No uglier than SoC lol

[storm kernel]

the art direction carries it

[fair jackal]

it is though when there is literal laws about how you cannot do something even in games lol.

[static compass]

?

[static compass]

True

[sand fiber]

honestly just install a mod that removes the piss filter, makes the sky actually blue and it'll become one of the most beatiful games ever

[silver warren]

dyslexic

[silver warren]

I play NV with like 450 mods lol mostly just graphical, textures, and lighting. Hold's up quite well when it's modded to oblivion ha

[static compass]

About the same as SoC

[storm kernel]

Honestly, my policy is "it's either all okay or none of it is okay", if Ubislop was allowed to have players destroy churches and monasteries in Valhalla, then giving players the option (it's not even a game objective unlike in Valhalla) to mess with religious sites is okay

[sand fiber]

vasyanka time...

[storm kernel]

why not install a mod to change the artstyle of Obsidian's other games then?

[silver warren]

yeah but that's exactly what happened in history. Also, valhalla was basically Vikings the tv show in a game... NOTHING in that game was legit

[sand fiber]

there are no such things methinks and it's not about changing the artstyle

[silver warren]

Have you ever modded before?

[dire dagger]

I don’t really have a problem with that in games

It’s a game at the end of the day

[storm kernel]

I don't really care about historical accuracy (unless it's stupid stuff like retconning laser guns or magic into medieval europe), as long as the game is fun

[fair jackal]

doesn't really change the facts if there is full on laws for something specific here.

[dire dagger]

There are things I’d say are too far

But I’m not sure that would be it

[night crest]

its ugly because of the engine

its less ugly than oblivion or fallout 3 though

[sand fiber]

are you kidding me, magic and laser guns in actual historical medieval europe would be the best things ever

[storm kernel]

neither do I

[silver warren]

Fo3 is heinous

[night crest]

id argue thats not really the actual game anymore though

[storm kernel]

of course

[fair jackal]

isn't there a game coming out where you're in like medieval times but you got guns and vehicles

[silver warren]

Yes and it looks rad

[night crest]

yes, and oblivion even moreso

[storm kernel]

if the game wasn't pitches as being "historically accurate" then I'm cool with it

Imagine if Kingdom Come Deliverance had that stuff in it

[sand fiber]

one of my favorite books (i've read 2 books in my life) is sapkowskij's (witcher author) Hussite Saga, it's about a real, actually historic down to the last detail Czech history with just a little bit of magic sprinkled in, it's the coolest shit

if KCD added some central european folklore/fantasy it would be just URGHHHHHH

[night crest]

me when žižka

[storm kernel]

basically I don't want it to be on the level of COD Vanguard where it's a WWII game only in name

[static compass]

You want some good WWII, play Hell Let Loose

[night crest]

it would be worse

and there is folklore and fantasy in kcd, but its treated as it would be treated in that time period 🗣️

you got vampires, werewolves, lady of the lake, lucifer, death etc. but its still treated normally

[dire dagger]

Look bro

Ubisoft should just make a beyblade game instead

[fair jackal]

i feel like if putting something in a game that a country that the game is supposed to take place in, has literal laws against being able to display certain things in media, it's basically gone too far. like there is also something about how you can loot a tomb for armor but it's a specific one that there's laws for how you can or cannot show that in media.

[static compass]

Nah bro

[sand fiber]

are they like a real thing in-game or just folklore

[static compass]

They should stick to Uno

[dire dagger]

True

Uno was peak

[static compass]

Fr

[night crest]

you arent fighting literal vampires and werewolves

but you experience stuff that people in THAT time period would assume to be vampires and werewolves, and the quests and your main character treat it as such, because...thats historically accurate 🗣️

[dire dagger]

Ok

[sand fiber]

eh, again, actual historical fiction with low-fantasy elements would've been cooler

[static compass]

You want peak historical fiction?

[night crest]

plenty of games in that genre already

[static compass]

Play Ghost of Tsushima

[sand fiber]

i fuсking love anything medieval though, time-appropriate magic just makes it better

[static compass]

[dire dagger]

Play factorio

[night crest]

time-appropriate magic? 😭

[dire dagger]

Maximum realism

[night crest]

kcd2 is maximum realism because the game is set in my backyard 🗣️

[static compass]

Did you hear about Blight Survival?

[dire dagger]

Insane

[static compass]

Medieval zombie game where you play as a knight?

[dire dagger]

I want to play stalker zombie survival

Dayz stalker

[static compass]

Dead City when?

[night crest]

monolith moment

[silver warren]

Have you tried DeadSide?

[dire dagger]

No

[silver warren]

It's basically DayZ/Tarkov

[sand fiber]

nope, they don't, you're thinking of fantasy
fantasy tends to be fantasy-first and rarely features actual medieval shit, the only exception is witcher, but that's because it's based on a book and sapkowskij is a medieval nerd
i'm talking about a medieval-first setting that sprinkles a bit of magic in it, and not just any magic, but the kinds you would find in folklore and books of the time

[silver warren]

There's a new Slavic folklore game on steam

[night crest]

idk play mount and blade

[storm kernel]

what is it called

[dire dagger]

New favorite meme from stalker memes

[sand fiber]

again, basically just Hussite Saga, real historical events in real historical setting with just a biiit of catholic vampires running around

[static compass]

@sand fiber

[silver warren]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/912840/The_End_of_the_Sun/

[storm kernel]

"Warning! An Emission is approaching! Find shelter immediately"

"No, nothing ever happens"

[reef raptor]

this for some reason reminded me of the time I wasted one straight month of my life dedicating myself to artefact hunting in gamma last year all that for volat emerald, full, flake and another one I forgor

[sand fiber]

uiurghghh ue slop....

[dire dagger]

Your banned

[static compass]

But hey, a rare concept

[dire dagger]

A month spent playing gamma

[sand fiber]

i mean Smuta is a rare concept also doesn't make it better

[dire dagger]

[static compass]

Poor zek, a whole month playing gamma

Brings a tear to your eye

[storm kernel]

looks alright

[reef raptor]

oh no thats just one month spent hunting artefacts
I played for about 400 hours in total over the span of 3 months last year from february to april

aaaand I re-downloaded gamma a few days ago after finishing stalker 2

NOW IN MY DEFENSE I am not your average gamma enjoyer.... gamma is NOT stalker it is just HARDCORE PAIN but it makes my brain HAPPY and I am SORRY for the SIN I am COMITTING so PLEASE forgive me

[silver warren]

I played the demo, it's basically a detective game

[dire dagger]

Yah know what

That’s a fair take tbh

[sand fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REGKtrAHsnA i highly suggest

[dire dagger]

I can respect that

[static compass]

Omg
Cat

Also

Hi Zek

[fair jackal]

idk if i wanna get on Stalker or just do youtube until bed

[reef raptor]

hi hi! hello! hallo! allo!

[celest portal]

we are in the same boat. Although, if I don't want to do something in gamma I just spawn shit it. Like when I need to repair guns or armor lol.

[reef raptor]

I used the black market mod thingy on my 400h save to buy guns and stuff but now that I came back to it I am playing it fair and square without mods like that since well.. they did make repairing guns 100 times easier so

[celest portal]

I hardly do any artifact hunting in gamma though

[sand fiber]

gamma grinders wouldn't survive an hour in OLR.......

[celest portal]

my squirrel brain still annoyed for the fact that you need to look for the specific parts, unless that change.

[reef raptor]

I did it cuz I wanted to basically get the best things
cared a lot about my character and hell, I even downloaded a mod for gamma that adds a new exit so when you go there you basically get out of the zone so you can give your character a good ending before starting again and stuff

[static compass]

Omg
The boykisser

[reef raptor]

lmao fair enough

[sand fiber]

btw try NLC7.... it's like immense pain at all times across your whole body.......

[celest portal]

Understandable, I named my stalker in gamma my oc, and tried to form a story around it when I had writers block.

[silver warren]

I've been playing HayZee's Custom since S2 is absolutaly busted for me. A lot like GAMMA but you can buy and repair weapons without pain

[reef raptor]

yeah it makes the experience much cooler
I let my imagination go wild again with my new character and boy oh boy the lore is pretty cool but it is obviously corny as hell but that's the beauty of imagination

[celest portal]

tbh this is all I do when it comes to that mod pack, I don't actually play the game as is lmao.

[reef raptor]

I play it as is since like I mentioned it is painful but it makes my brain happy
the zone will never let go of me... I come back to it one way or another either through one of the actual games or a modpack or in different forms like VR (into the radius) and whatever

might as well call it "The Zone Syndrome" lmao nevermind that sounds dumb

[dire dagger]

I call it

Down syndrome

Trademark pending

[drowsy blade]

Only people with Down Syndrome are Monolithians

[static compass]

Omg
Cat

[dire dagger]

[static compass]

Whoa

[drowsy blade]

You’re a Noontider, you had it but got better

[reef raptor]

if you search omg cat in the search bar you will find out that it has been said 3000 TIMES!!!!

[static compass]

Average Monolithian when you take their shiny rock away

[static compass]

Whoa

[static compass]

[drowsy blade]

Noontide has the coolest new patch

But Corps has the best new uniform

[celest portal]

I like Spark's uniform

[drowsy blade]

I love the look of Dubok camo in a black pattern

[worn oar]

I miss the old ones. They were all dope

[reef raptor]

I keep thinking about Noontide for some reason
god I wish that part of the game lasted for much longer...... best part of stalker 2 imo

[celest portal]

[worn oar]

Now, it's the x-1 that hold the best suit in terms of look title

[reef raptor]

my beloved 💔

[celest portal]

[drowsy blade]

Strider is so based

[worn oar]

Worst part about it is all the running you are forced to do hehe

[reef raptor]

80% of my stalker playtime is just

running while spamming energy drinks + canned food from A to B

[worn oar]

True, I like it tho

[dire dagger]

Watching framework presentation atm and I’m kinda disappointed

[worn oar]

I love exploring and stuff

[dire dagger]

Where is oculink

[celest portal]

Things will change when you get two thunderberries

[dire dagger]

GIVE ME OCULINK OR GIVE ME DEATH

[reef raptor]

same but 80% of the running experience was bland and empty with no action going on :(

[dire dagger]

Ok how about we go fishing in terraria instead

[reef raptor]

im so pissed cuz I had 2 of those on my main 50 hour save and it felt amazing but then I had a softlock and I legit couldnt continue the game so I had to completely restart with a new playthrough and I never found any thunderberries bro..........

[dire dagger]

How

There so easy to find

[reef raptor]

curse of ra im telling you

[static compass]

Best faction ong

[dire dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-of-ra-curse-of-ra-gif-10622361558915339590

[celest portal]

I have found 4 in my first playthrough before that save got wiped, in my new playthrough haven't been able to find a 2nd one.

[reef raptor]

"artefacts tend to be very rare and not many stalkers dare to search for them"

skif with 47 artefacts up his ass (he entered the zone like 3 days ago):

[celest portal]

he built different, artifacts are attracted to him

[reef raptor]

skif does not search for artifacts
artifacts search for him

[dire dagger]

Maybe instead of searching for artifacts

You should search for some bitches

[celest portal]

Not enough women in the Zone

[reef raptor]

"if you cant find any bitches.. become the bitches"
-me

[dire dagger]

Sounds like a skill issue tbh

But I’m not gonna judge

[daring storm]

Your momma's too fat for the zone.

[silver warren]

Fatten.Evicerate.Engorge (mommy's home)

[zinc apex]

Your momma's so dumb she clapped four times at Enter Shikari - Sorry You're Not A Winner

[silver warren]

daaamn

[static compass]

Based Skif

[broken latch]

Guys don't be mean to eatch other@zinc apex @daring storm

[zinc apex]

hey, I didn't mean anyone. just wanted to give my take in lol

[crisp ruin]

Not the guy from Reboot MW who has big head

[reef raptor]

alejandro is great

[crisp ruin]

Tru

but whole game is joke

I never forget what they did to gaming's most evil guy, Russian Makarov to... Bulgarian one.

💀

[tiny token]

you won't believe it

[crisp ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-like-you-laughing-stud-gif-27270682

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[broken latch]

not good to particpiate in everything

[zinc apex]

you're missing out

[sly matrix]

spoiler discussion goes in #☢┃stalker-general

[crisp ruin]

You can do it freely

but not here

[timber mango]

Thanks i didnt want to see spoilers so i came here instead sorry about that i did blur it tho

[coarse sparrow]

someone ping me once GSC manages the roadmap, I have unistalled until the first story DLC drops

[zinc apex]

See ya next year

[worn oar]

Where is that?

[dire dagger]

Steam

[dire dagger]

what you wanna do it right now

[granite mortar]

Cant
Its already midnight
On weekend maybe

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[tawny comet]

From a visual aspect, I think if GSC could do volumetric smoke down the road would be awesome.

[static compass]

[finite dragon]

#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

[lofty palm]

I have beaten stalker 2. That was one of the best games I have ever played.

[static compass]

[celest goblet]

Still waiting on additional patches to do a 2nd playthrough, but the temptation to go back is gradually rising

[celest blaze]

I can't wait to play again one day

[lofty palm]

yeah i'm probably going to wait for more patches because the performance issues and the glitches are still pretty prominent

to do a second playthrough

[finite dragon]

i started playing around with graphic mods and now im depressed and not playing

[celest blaze]

[celest goblet]

I'd say I would wait for the first story expansion to be out, but I definitely do not have the patience to wait that long

[celest blaze]

I want my first run to be issue free

I paused around 12 hr mark

[celest goblet]

Probably a wise choice tbh, but I couldn't help myself, ended up playing about 100 hrs before finishing

[celest blaze]

I like to explore everywhere so I could easily see a few hundred hours doing that

[static compass]

I took the game hella slow

But finally beat it

[celest goblet]

Yeah I did not even go anywhere, or look super thoroughly at every location. Decided to leave some mysteries of the zone unsolved until another time

[static compass]

Yeah, I didn't go everywhere either

[lofty palm]

Took me 58 hours to beat the game

[static compass]

Took me over 72

But like I said, I went hella slow

[celest goblet]

My second playthrough might end up being as long or longer if I want to do the stuff I missed before, even if I use my prior knowledge to gear up more quickly

[wintry rover]

Оружие убрал.

[static compass]

[silver warren]

bREAD

[celest blaze]

We do have a Ukranian section

[silver warren]

Have any of yall noticed that some of the characters in S2 sound a lot like AI talking?

There's one specifically I'm convinced of

[static compass]

Who?

[silver warren]

Don't want to spoil anything, he's at Malachite

[static compass]

[silver warren]

pm'd

[static compass]

You can also put it in the spoiler chat

[silver warren]

where's that? I looked

[static compass]

https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308034374473617459

[calm bough]

pls gib bred

[celest blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958342885005221898/1195534644079251486/trevor.gif

[native ibex]

Brutal. That's the nicest zone welcome.

Though they seem to be in a much worse place: California.

[dire dagger]

Can’t have shit in the zone

[viral apex]

Wdym the zone isnt boys only fort anymore....

[native ibex]

Damn. Men can't have their own spaces.

[viral apex]

Girls, why You atleast put some mustache with Goofy glasses and pretend to be boys

Is for keep the friendly aesthetics

[native ibex]

You think Controller does the most psy damage until you ask her out and she says "ew"

[lofty helm]

[native ibex]

Your profile says you're a suspected terrorist

[lofty helm]

Innocent until proven guilty

[waxen seal]

Why?

[lofty helm]

[calm bough]

[zinc apex]

Spoiler chat is at #☢┃stalker-general

I'm glad you made clear that this was a spoiler tho. I already fell for a trap one day, thought behind that spoiler blocks is some funny text and there was a major spoiler behind. Didn't expect that in this channel

[shadow rivet]

There is clear sky enthusiasts now. We're cooked

[zinc apex]

Clear Sky always was peak

[unreal raptor]

daily check in — no roadmap, no a-life?

[shadow rivet]

BING CHILLING

[zinc apex]

Nopeseydoodle

[crystal merlin]

So I decided that, for my current and all future playthrough, I will use mods that :
+Give me unlimited carrying weight
+All blueprints or allow me to buy them
+Allow me to buy all attachments
+Make NPCs drop armors and more ammo upon ducked.
The goal is to get the same amount of loots and coupons as my first playthrough, until someone or GSC gives us new game plus.

[empty gorge]

turn it into weekly checkin with this tempo and communication they have

[sand fiber]

stlkkkkkrrdeeeerrrr

[empty echo]

stallkkkeeerreehhh

[unreal raptor]

Maybe bi-monthly?

[empty gorge]

annual company report ahh shii, just ask the same question in ask-gsc. its a valid question

i mean they will never answer or just answer with its answered before or soon or its cooking.
but atleast you get a feeling someone reads it at gsc

[unreal raptor]

Ask-GSC is a just a spam inbox i'm sure — not sure my questions go anywhere in there. They just cherry pick a few easy ones with each board game announcement.

hahaha — we are cooking this soon, but rest assured I don't know the answer to this specific question.

[empty gorge]

its a beautifull pr thingy that channel, cherry pick questions that fit your mood or update to just satisfy the people with the most basic of community engagement

[unreal raptor]

"just patched this quest bug!"

[empty gorge]

and then rack in the positive comments of people say how "look how they are communicating with the community"

[empty gorge]

but we introduced a new one so we can fill the patch notes for next updates again!

[unreal raptor]

😂

[empty gorge]

rest assured alife is top priority!
after about 3000 fixes we have no alife info or roadmap to give but but rest assured alife is top priority!

[empty echo]

dunno how complaining is gonna help

[empty gorge]

chill man, gsc aint reading this channel anyway its cool

[empty echo]

it's gonna happen, how long did it take for cyberpunk to get it's act together? and how well did that work out in the end?
if i was a dev slaving over my project here it wouldn't help for me to look in the gen chat to see people complaining bout it, if u wanna actually give real feedback there has to be a place for that and if not like go yap about it in dms

[empty gorge]

it took em years and the finished product wasnt anywhere close to the advertised product but more like a fork that tried all it can to look like it.
same goes here right? a few years to get a working product but alife 2.0 wont be like advertised product? but then again, they never advertised what alife 2.0 is compared to 1.0, we just assume 2 > 1

[empty echo]

my point is that it'll be worth it in the end and that complaining that it's taking too long aint doing anything

[empty gorge]

the only complaint is: how do you really know that? what even is alife 2.0 compared to 1.0? anyone have official info on the upgrades?

[empty echo]

we'll wait and see then

[unreal raptor]

i agree with @empty gorge here the main problem that is causing dissent is the lack of goals/aims — we have been promised a product (that hasn't delivered ofc) now people are wondering what is going to happen? What's the plans, aims & roadmap

[rare venture]

I would like that you make this conversation calmer.
I'm here with the mood to give some mutes

Just in case BTW

[empty gorge]

i give mono, shay and monoshay those 3 users a product, the product isn't 100% like advertised on my website.
mono says oke ill wait for it to get some updates.
shay says can i have some information on current status, estimate and how close the final product resembles the advertisement on website?
monoshay says to give them time.
its been 3 months, who would be in the right here? (oh and the seller said about 1.5 months ago that they will give a more in depth roadmap to finished product but since then every mention of it is "its cooking" or "we already gave answer")

[empty echo]

good point

[unreal raptor]

Monoshay is killing me here. See the light my friend. 😂

[empty echo]

monolith shay real

[empty gorge]

to add on top: its oke to want them to work on it and to move in silence. To do something like a no man sky as people say right?
but that is an if, who says that us staying silent and accepting it would lead to a no-man-sky redemption arc? (im not saying they will run, im saying who says it will be like nms?) it is a valid feedback point to keep asking for atleast more in depth communication instead of using the only answer channel we have in contact with dev team as a glorified pr machine to answer on select questions that fit the situation, ask the real questions. dont dodge the answer. be real with us we wont die from the info

[empty echo]

yyup, as much confidence as i have that the game will be just perfectly fine in like however long I wouldn't mind knowing what they're doin

[zinc apex]

Shay I think you summoned some GSC dev or something haha. Never seen Tapik online here before

[rare venture]

Tapik it's a community manager btw

Not dev

[zinc apex]

Damn how many community managers do they have lol

[rare venture]

Cause there's a lot of platforms with which GSC are working

[zinc apex]

Therefore I officialy apply to be the presumably 10th cm at GSC. Looking forward to hear from yall

[empty gorge]

they have no shareholder obligation but they do have 1 entrepeneur owner so its not like shareholder x with 17 yachts is holding them back from releasing more info either

[rare venture]

Rule 6 and 7.
Last time without warn/mute

[shadow rivet]

Whats happenin goobers?

[zinc apex]

Waiting for infos

[empty gorge]

what? ait im out

[shadow rivet]

Everyone cheeky breeky?

[zinc apex]

Just for understanding. How does this break rule 6/7 for hatespeech, discrimination and support of terrorist/extremist organisation?

[rare venture]

it's not a game for gen z cod player
Common bruh

I'm calmly asking to calm down

[empty gorge]

i mean im backed by statistical sources? am i wrong for sharing public domain available information from reputable sites?

one such source would be statista brand insights for call of duty across northern america showing the graph for most played genre and most played game within that genre per generation. statista is one of the leading websites in the world for data and information gathering.

[rare venture]

Problem is that how you express this information.
Not the information itself

Feel difference

[empty gorge]

ait bet

[shadow rivet]

Everyone is not cheeky breeky anymore ):

[celest portal]

[unreal raptor]

Crappi Brappi

[gritty orchid]

the chat isnt chatting if shay havent made his daily posts about the state of the game

[shadow rivet]

Bruh. Game is already dropped tho ill prolly still keep playing gamma and anomaly ngl

[celest blaze]

Play better mods lol

[zinc apex]

Good choice ngl

[shadow rivet]

Im open suggestions on god

[rare venture]

Gamma
ha ha ha

[sand fiber]

Call of the Zone, Legend Returns, Oblivion Lost Remake, Spatial Anomaly, NLC 7, Return to the Zone, Wind of Time

[zinc apex]

I wish Cotz would exist in that updated engine

[celest blaze]

theres an OWA cotz in development

[zinc apex]

[rare venture]

Isn't oblivion lost made by some russian-z?

[celest blaze]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GgBFCRIbc7TQ5DwWHvWaridX1G64PYoWItkLyr3pBPk/edit?gid=0#gid=0 heres the list to alot of stalker mods from c con server

[celest blaze]

thats anomaly custom

[sand fiber]

Probably, but so are 90% of modders. It didn't affect the mod, there are still mentions of Ukraine and it's faithful to the desdocs

[rare venture]

That's why I'm playing only western mods

[celest blaze]

but heres my list i have atm

[zinc apex]

Mash them all together!

[sand fiber]

There is 1 and a half western mods in existence.

Unless you're playing something made by zaurus you wouldn't guess it was made by a Zetnik.

[rare venture]

Still better than play mods made by russians

[celest blaze]

man thats kinda xenophobic lol

the only mod to not support is anomaly custom

[zinc apex]

True

[rare venture]

And the reason kinda obvious, lol.
I'm not buying russian games, don't listen russian music, etc

[sand fiber]

if you are to not engage with any media made by "problematic" people you're basically left with like 10 games and 5 books total

[rare venture]

Basically it's already an offtop.
But my approach - if media content is made and registered in Russia, I'm not using it, so there are no profit from me.
Which is gonna be converted to taxes on which gonna be a new fuel for the war

[loud gate]

Let the goat talk

[celest blaze]

based

[zinc apex]

Gooood

[sand fiber]

Consumption doesn't mean imply buying.

[celest blaze]

id rather modders make freeplay mods for stalker 2 then gsc waste time on a ng+ mode tbh

[empty gorge]

8

[rare venture]

I'm using only licensed content.
So it's still not for me

[celest blaze]

teamlite 2 would be peak

[sand fiber]

That's not very smart either :p
Anyway, mods are free, so it doesn't even apply here

[rare venture]

There are not free.
They use most valuable resource - time.
And I don't wanna spend it on the content which is mostly have russian track
(Hello anomaly with the putin vodka, even the mod is made by west teams)

[shadow rivet]

Ill look into those ngl

[celest blaze]

teamlite aswell if you want story goldsphere is based

if you want i can invite you to the C con stalker server its pretty based

[rare venture]

Author of gold sphere not a good person btw

Jfyi

[dire dagger]

Why not

[zealous pumice]

i like this cause it looks like hes facing paparazzi with camera flashes

[dire dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/597350761730408451/1303389001276719115/charliecasino.gif

[sand fiber]

iirc some lines about donbass in the game

[rare venture]

He has mods which promotes open separatism, lol.
Main problem, that this context is understable only for ex-uusr countries.
It's kinda hard to explain to other one

[dire dagger]

Ah

[celest blaze]

Good to know tbh

[restive glen]

anyone have some tips for a poor stalker just trying to enjoy stalker 2 but is getting single digit fps?

[sand fiber]

what specs

[restive glen]

intel i7-9700kf, rtx 2070 super, according to what ive seen i ought to be able to play medium 60 fps. but thats not happening

[dire dagger]

Your cpu is probably killing your fps

[rare venture]

Buy a new pc

Too weak CPU

[dire dagger]

He said the quiet part out loud

[restive glen]

then maybe the steam minimum requirements needs to be fixed, because i certainly have better hardware than what's listed. maybe i just need to go refund the game if this is the case.

[dire dagger]

Can try optimization mods

[rare venture]

It's stalker.
It's always was a mess in the terms of optimization

[dire dagger]

To be fair

The original games would run on a toaster

At 480p lol

[rare venture]

Noup

[patent mortar]

For a second I thought he was talking about NVG.

[crystal merlin]

But you lost everything you collected during that playthrough.
New game + simply means you start the game over with everything you collected, it's like one of the basic features a game can provide.
It's a videogame you know.

[rare venture]

System requirements was quite big for the time

[patent mortar]

I dont think thats going to be fun.

Thats just gonna kill the replayability of the game.

[celest portal]

A personal choice of not wanting to support things made by russians not xenophobic lol. Unless if they're not even in russia themselves and do what they can to support Ukrainians in any way, I don't see anything wrong with not wanting to consume/give any penny and time to a country that's wants your existence gone.

[dire dagger]

It was like a fx5500 and a pentium 4 2.4ghz

But to be fair I’d argue that rig wouldn’t play the game above 20 fps

But like a 3.06ghz p4 and a 6800 ultra could play it at low 1024x768 at 60fps

[celest blaze]

Oh this conversation was about mods

[crystal merlin]

Neither do spending even more time running around one giant map looking for blueprints(worse if you can't remember where they are)
I don't think it will kill anything,anyone could choose to start an entirely fresh playthrough.

[celest portal]

Still applies, as you said that other helper for not wanting to use a mod made by russians is 'kinda xenophobic'.

[patent mortar]

Fair I guess...

[rare venture]

But there are still ideas which are destructive for us)
Main problem, that only us can see it..
As mentioned before - golden shpere

[dire dagger]

Looks like the gigs up gold sphere bros

[celest blaze]

That's fair

[celest blaze]

I just try not to blanket punish all people's for the actions of a government tbh

[dire dagger]

I’d kinda agree it depends on the dude

Though I do understand it’s not really fair for us to give a take on it since it’s not us who are directly involved