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[night crest]

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[celest blaze]

If you read those 68 messages you'd know they were anti snork

[mint viper]

If anyone is on Xbox please dm me I’m looking for other friends who play on Xbox since most play on pc a lot of stuff is different or doesn’t apply like mods 🙂

[upbeat kite]

C’mon no spoilers

[hazy helm]

No mods for console yet
Wait for sdk release, and I mean, S2

[night crest]

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[hazy helm]

Total snork death (it's not even the worst mutant )

[celest blaze]

Fr fr

[upbeat kite]

It’s because you bought Starfield and realized it was a wasted money? Pushing us out to offtop 😭🤥

[night crest]

i like starfield

[celest blaze]

I'm sure folks enjoy starfield I haven't played it to judge for myself though

[night crest]

its a classic bethesda game except its not carried by an established franchise

[buoyant trench]

Anyone know a way to fix the return to barkeep glitch?

I'm on xbox and I can't get any more jobs for him, and the same with Owl. The two main radient job people and I can't get any jobs for them anymore. I love this game but I progressed too farto just reload a save

[upbeat kite]

Ok you really like the game. My bad. Sry

[night crest]

😭

its moreso that bethesda has made slop for over a decade now, starfield is no more or no less of a slop than fallout 4, fallout 76, skyrim or oblivion

[buoyant trench]

Where can I report Stalker 2 bugs?

[night crest]

#s2-support

[thorny cove]

Who wants a hug?

[tiny token]

the more i come back to 1 the more i think it's absolute peak

[slender perch]

lets both hug?

[finite dragon]

For stash codes where should I ask here in discord community?

[thorny cove]

Hug provided.

[meager kindle]

Gamma > stalker 2

[upbeat kite]

You want set on fire this channel?

[hazy helm]

When the bait is of low quality so.is the response

Now
Say NLC is better than Stalker 2...

[meager kindle]

we are gonna get better soon insallah 🙌

[upbeat kite]

Bittersweet

[orchid gale]

God you wish , personally I think

Outlaws> clear sky

[upbeat kite]

@thorny cove Give him as well hug..

[lean barn]

I just wanted to throw out there that the whole Muddy Waters too album is a masterpiece (imo)

[celest blaze]

Fr I feel it's the last great dice game

[tiny token]

i'd post some goated clips but can't rip

[unreal mist]

awhh i cant change my nickname in this server

[celest blaze]

Only mods and helpers can

[slender perch]

ur a helper again? based

[unreal mist]

sadge i wanted to change my name to my number of attempts

[craggy jewel]

so i walked somewhere that is not a foggy map border got instant full radiation and died, im in a fully upgraded corundum suit?

[celest blaze]

Yeah decided to pick up the mantle

[muted valve]

oh no, snorker persecutions will intensify again 😦

[silver portal]

It’s crazy how much more harder the game is now with Alife working. I beat bandits then I run into THE THIRD PACK OF DOGS AND RATS IN 3 minutes, then into a bloodsucker, etc. it’s fun now

[craggy jewel]

i dont think its working it feels like they just upped the distance and frequency of spawns, and allowed it outside of points of interest

[celest blaze]

😈

[glass arrow]

Yep, thats right. It isn't a-life

[craggy jewel]

whole lotta running into packs of dogs and bandits that spawned behind a tree, and still behind me even if they say they dont anymore

[north violet]

Found another suit NPCs can wear but the player can't.

Behold! #📸┃screens_and_videos message

[fossil cairn]

SNORK

[slender perch]

legend

[fossil cairn]

SNORK

[crisp ruin]

[celest blaze]

[slender perch]

Pls.. it's Christmas

[finite dragon]

I haven’t played the 1.1 patch yet been working every day, has it drastically improved everything now that everyone else has had a chance to play it out?

[muted valve]

it's just a snorking good time tbh

[open jacinth]

I didn't realize how much the alife system affected until I saw the zoneslug videos

[grave verge]

do not

[nimble cipher]

gwydionwh has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-cat-smile-cat-cool-cat-gif-297291901262297802

[nimble cipher]

emitisdumb has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[gloomy knoll]

Been sometime since alife complaints were voiced...

The Monolith mustve Heard my prayers for Real

[cosmic finch]

It's definitely an improvement, even if it may not be 100% done. I've gotten some interesting random encounters that can happen anywhere, but I haven't chased a squad around the map to see what they are up to. Safe zones are a bit busier and there are folks wandering around outside. enemy AI is a bit better, especially the mutants, can't say much more than that

[slender perch]

FISHING WHEN

[gloomy knoll]

Is that snork ross?

[crisp ruin]

[gloomy knoll]

Scared Sparrow?

[crisp ruin]

You know, I can mute you

[gloomy knoll]

Hey, the Deal was its only a muteable offense If its Sexualized, and it wasnt in any way now

[upbeat kite]

[grave verge]

Oh, well

[meager kindle]

how do you guys feel today

[grave verge]

Naked, somehow

[tacit oracle]

oh hey, remember my rant about wishing there'd be a mod to randomize the armor loot spawns?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/919
It's a christmas miiiiracle

[meager kindle]

broken game

[tacit oracle]

ofc, broken trash shit game yes

[grave verge]

Why you so naughty

[lyric trout]

been holding off on playing and staying away from information, is the game in a good state to play now, or are there still issues, esp. regarding A-life?

[tacit oracle]

No it's broken shit trash from lying bad evil devs sorry
You should really refund it and also sue them for false lying

[slender perch]

game of the decade

[grave verge]

they are against you

[celest goblet]

Does he just reply to comments completely at random when he says that

[tacit oracle]

Not entirely, I do have an elaborate system of flowcharts and different dice

[celest goblet]

Lol I meant Rip

[tacit oracle]

oh yeah absolutely

[gloomy knoll]

False lying... Wouldnt that make them honest again?

[gilded magnet]

While it's a damn good game, and especially the first 20 - 30 or so hours, it cracks starts showing then. If you can wait, and have the patience just wait half a year to a year. I'm convinced it might be one the best games ever made by that time. In its current state it breaks exponentially more and more the deeper you come into it.

[tacit oracle]

nyos

[granite mortar]

anyone got PDA maps of CoP MP maps?
The files only include three pictures

[grave verge]

quantum mechanics, perchance

[celest goblet]

In my heart the game is already great but objectively it needs a few more big patches to sort out issues

[tacit oracle]

or, you can do like me and go into a mod rabbithole that prevents you from reaching even the midpoint of the game 'cause you keep installing shi that requires a restart lol

[grave verge]

😳

[tacit oracle]

being able to skip cutscenes again will be very nice

[finite dragon]

Does stealth work now

[gilded magnet]

Slightly better, nothing good.

[finite dragon]

That was kinda my biggest complaint so I think I’ll still hold out so I don’t get mad and burn out

[elfin venture]

guess I'll just wait another month

[gilded magnet]

I agree. I said it yesterday, but I'll repeat myself. I went into this game assuming it would be kinda Ish like farcry in the sneaking and dictating the fights - gameplay. Like, you scout out a area, pick of stragglers at 200 - 400m with a sniper, and sneak around clearing the base afterwards. Sure different games, but I don't think my assumption was unreasonable or totally wild.

[void stone]

Which is unfortunate, because when it works, it's awesome

[tacit oracle]

that's how it plays for me, even with novichok's bonkers hyperaware AI (slightly less so now)

[whole inlet]

I still get shot through solid objects; guys with over/under double barrel toz-34s rapid fire and never reload; pin-point satellite guided grenade accuracy (Clear Sky easter egg? intentional? lol)

[gilded magnet]

Ugh this too. Which would be less of a problem if we could stealth properly!

[finite dragon]

If the game is gonna kick my ass with more “realistic” damage taken to me then stealth should be more realistic as well to give an opportunity to myself to have an advantage instead of running in healing a bunch while killing 20 dudes… defeats the immersion that a “realistic” style difficulty is meant to have.

[void stone]

Good ol CS, when hearing a bandit shouting Cheeki Breeki was a death sentence

[whole inlet]

Its gonna be a good game when GSC (or modders) finish it for sure.. right now it just feels like they put all their work into the zone itself (nothing wrong with that) and "placeholdered" a lot of other things in the meantime

[gritty knot]

[gilded magnet]

I agree with you, however after you get a certain artifact and a solid piece of armour, weapon damage becomes significantly less of a problem

[tacit oracle]

I mean depends on what's your measure for "realistic" stealth, videogame stealth is not realistic but it also must not be to avoid becoming frustrating

[gilded magnet]

Considering the volume of silenced guns in this game, and how close you can be without anyone hearing the shots, there's nothing realistic here

[void stone]

OG Thief is still the gold standard in that regard imo

[finite dragon]

Super human levels of awareness where when your buddy gets sniped you can instantly see the sniper (and so can 15 of your comrades) and start shooting at him and lob a grenade 50m with pinpoint accuracy.

Thats what I’m complaining about. Stealth is impossible in the game for any holdouts

[tacit oracle]

been a while since I played them but it was pretty gamey iirc
@finite dragon I've led the AI on wild goose chases where it looks where I'm not anymore although I will give you that if an enemy aggroes you they hivemind your location together. It's not as bad as with other games but that much is true.

[gilded magnet]

I don't necessarily agree it's impossible, but you need to understand the ai itself to fully abuse it

[dense hatch]

What

[cosmic finch]

It works better, you don't get insta-jumped in total darkness but it's not refined enough at this stage I'd say

[finite dragon]

Well I remember seeing videos of mods for stalker where it was implemented in a way it was satisfying and there weren’t a hive mind sort of mechanic. I’m disappointed they went more for a generic approach where you’re just a damage sponge… I liked that the difficulty seemed to have came from realism, you weren’t the hero to save everyone

[void stone]

Oh yeah, it was not realistic, but it made sense in universe. Not too easy, but not frustratingly hard either. That said, stealth was the main gameplay point of the game, but still

[tacit oracle]

If I can keep scurrying away I can plink away at groups and deaggro them, that's what I do in big places like the factory at garbage. I'll also be able to pick them off as they look around because they don't know exactly where I am

[gilded magnet]

I stand by my initial assessment. Something isj similar to how farcry handles sneaking around settlements etc would be nice, cool and honestly to be expected. Obviously no carbon copy, but as a general idea.

[cosmic finch]

I don't know if enemies spawn close or if they're savvy enough to be dead quiet until you walk into a disadvantageous position

[finite dragon]

The difficulty in this game I think is a bit lazy with everyone just having more health and hit harder, but I haven’t played the other stalker games I’ve only seen the mods so idk if it’s always been this way

No clue if my expectations for this game were too high

[whole inlet]

ghost recon level of stealth would be ideal, imho

[tacit oracle]

I think farcry mobs (and if we're talking 6 in particular) is not the right way to do it, but I can get the gist of it. Ghost recon might be a better goal in that sense

[gilded magnet]

Been playing those quite a bit lately, and honestly, the hivemind everyone knows where I am style isn't the greatest.

[cosmic finch]

I like that enemy groups are difficult and cohesive, if you get yourself cornered you're gonna suffer

[finite dragon]

I would’ve thought In 2024 coming into 2025 we could have a game where each npc has its own stealth system of awareness. They could’ve also implemented a way that npcs who saw me could report my general location and they blind fire into the woods.. that’s kinda what my vision was, more realistic npcs who have life preservation and won’t just wonder alone in a single file line pushing me into the forest as me (the badass character with infinite heals) sponges all his damage before dropping him using half a mag.

[gilded magnet]

Mostly 5 in my opinion, but 6 isn't particularly different. You can break line of sight in those game, and the enemy needs to find you again. In ghost recon they know exactly where you are, it's a timer kinda on how long they know your position after breaking contact. Which in the meantime I could've been flanking half the compound not been spotted but they know exactly where I am.

[whole inlet]

but in GR's defense.. they do all have working radios to communicate and high tech stuff to locate you and share said info.. granted its instantaneous which is meh, but yea I get ya

[cosmic finch]

Lots of games cheat with stuff like setting a max amount of enemies engaging the player at once, it's not that kinda thing that needs improvement, just less robotic aim and wider searching zones

[gilded magnet]

Yeah, I guess latency on positional information could help a lot.

[tacit oracle]

Definitely not my experience. In farcry the entire base knows where I am the second one sees me. I'm not entirely sure how good things are after that because things tend to get very dynamic very fast once that happens.
Also in terms of awareness stalker 2 does a good job, I've seen enemies looking for me where they last saw me after breaking LoS, it's just hard to do in this game because they not only track sight but they also track movement and sound. And the game is like 90% flat plains (and also the AI can see through vegetation which is BS)

[whole inlet]

Dishonored stealth is really good tho; they'll call for help, look around where you were last spotted and depending on difficulty search a long time trying to actually find you

[finite dragon]

And still they know the EXACT location and can shoot me through bushes without being able to see me directly with great accuracy

[cosmic finch]

If you had the enemy guys talking and sharing more tactical info it'd be more believable without actually changing their behavior

[gilded magnet]

Yeah, no I agree that's a problem in virtually all open world games with stealth elements, however as I said, when you break visual contact and move a bit, they got no clue what's your exact position, just general area/direction. Also noticeable with mortars spamming your last spotted area, trying to flush you out.

And let's be honest, say what you want about ubisoft and far cry games but the way the game handles vegetation as a typ of visual cover is near perfect.

[cosmic finch]

Large part of good stealth is about delaying the response appropriately and having wide, slow & systematic search areas

I think the stealth in the TR survivor trilogy is pretty great.. They'll be all over the place separately trying to figure out where you are and are very vulnerable to visibility obstacles

[tacit oracle]

idk if novichok's AI mod exacerbates that but I've seen enemies looking for me after breaking line of sight, even doing so in different directions. It's just hard to do in this game because you don't have a ton of places to hide and the AI is quite perceptive

[finite dragon]

Make npcs value their life more and less badass. Their accuracy is 20,000x better than accuracies in real life war lmao

They hit like 70% of their shots at any distance for me

[cosmic finch]

The intense accuracy is a huge problem

[tacit oracle]

They do have a cheaty "guaranteed hit" thing on automatic fire yes, maklane's mod helps with that. I have no idea why GSC thought that would be a good idea
Even with the mod they can nail you an obnoxious amount of times in a row in full auto

[gilded magnet]

Personally don't give a f about realism or whatever you wanna call it. Give me a system I can understand, use and apply while it resembles something I could consider "realistic or reasonable", and I'll be very much happy. Difficulty isn't important, but xray vision trough walls and serious hard cover gets old fast

[finite dragon]

We don’t get really any good tactical shooters for console, was hoping this would be one

[cosmic finch]

The abundance and quick animation of healing kits would have to be reduced to match a worse accuracy... It's too easy to duck away and heal to full even if you're swamped by aimbots. The health bar is also ridiculously logarithmic, a grenade will take you down to 10% HP regardless if you're at 50% or 100% health

[gilded magnet]

Ghost recon is a solid one!

[finite dragon]

That’s the only one tho! i agree it’s good

[delicate vector]

10% sale on christmas is actually so bs. and you cant say they lack money their profit just covered the game costs a week ago

[cosmic finch]

Aren't ready or not and six days in fallujah coming to console

[gilded magnet]

I agree, the different tiers of stims should scale in that regard. More expensive and rare? Easier to administer. Albeit, this is nitpicking. The overall conservation about the Ai and stealth however isn't. It's such a lost opportunity for excellent gameplay...

[cosmic finch]

Insurgency is a good MP tac shooter for console. Crazy good ballistics simulation

[worthy lagoon]

It's always been like that just like the trilogy

[gilded magnet]

Insurgency is pretty damn good. Arguably one of the better fps games every made. Just always got overshadowed by stuff like cod, bf and Cs

[heavy sable]

Not siege?

[finite dragon]

This would be a system I’d be fine with make it harder for the sake of adding ways the player can have tactical advantages over the npcs

[cosmic finch]

People are harsh on games that lack AAA polish, both insurgency and hell let loose suffer from that

[worthy lagoon]

Also loot depends on the difficulty as well

[gilded magnet]

We will always have the advantage of a human brain vs Ai, and it should be honoured by the devs if we wanna use this advantage.

[finite dragon]

Ai always has the advantage over a human brain they just limit how smart it is, and they could easily limit it to a more realistic level imo

[gilded magnet]

To be fair, insrguency is really cheap, and doesn't need to look like 2077 or stalker 2. It's super solid simple for what's it's designed to do. Albeit sure, the ui is a bit clunky and whatnot, the core gameplay is so darn polished.

[cosmic finch]

No rainbow six games exist after Raven shield

[worthy lagoon]

NPCs are not smart, it just follows a pattern

[heavy sable]

So I’m the only one who plays R6 then

[worthy lagoon]

You just set their range and accuracy

[finite dragon]

Well then it’s not really AI in terms of using machine learning is it

[worthy lagoon]

There's no AI machine learning inside STALKER nor any FPS game

[cosmic finch]

It just struck me as a bit too Operator-y and esporty

[worthy lagoon]

Only if you are playing chess

[gilded magnet]

To some extent. Human brain can lay traps and set up advantages no game Ai can hope to achieve or deal with unless they physically spot you trough hard walls, and shoots trough any cover. The superman aimbot is one thing, and I don't really struggle or care too much about it, if I can avoid getting shot at, at least until I've mopped up stragglers and have a solid idea of where people are

[heavy sable]

I remember when BGS lied about oblivions AI being able to do whatever it wanted but then we saw a dev creating the pathing which is scripted

[finite dragon]

Kinda what I’d expect them to use to train the npcs, that’s kinda what modern technology can provide now isn’t it

[cosmic finch]

Machine learning isn't any more AI than paths and if statements are

[heavy sable]

It used to be tactical but then Ubisoft screwed it up

[worthy lagoon]

NPCs are made of data and based on that data you can set their accuracy, paths and field of view which is different from our FOV

[cosmic finch]

Ubi Soft tends to do that lately

[finite dragon]

Machine learning can create more intelligent npcs and you can select a generation that fits the balance of the game better, that’s what I assumed the hype over this game was about, the realistic npcs and the fact you’re not some super human who’s better than everyone else in the world via health and all that jazz

[worthy lagoon]

If i want i can set the accuracy of an NPC to 100% at that point you'd always lose because you'd be fighting against an aimbot

[worthy lagoon]

That's not how it works for FPS games

[cosmic finch]

I dunno if you need all that for a believable and functional AI system, it's just not there in any game so far

[worthy lagoon]

It's not a race nor chess game

[finite dragon]

I thought it was done pretty well in gamma wasn’t it
Ive only seen videos

[gilded magnet]

I'd argue ubisoft has the best stealth studios around. I mean... Ghost recon and far cry is so good in that regard, and fun. Really fun. It's satisfying to clear a compound without ever getting spotted, or lay traps you bait a enemy into, something both games does arguably the best in the current gaming world.

[worthy lagoon]

Bro doesn't even know what STALKER is at that point

[cosmic finch]

I haven't played or looked into gamma at all... Alien Isolation had some rudimentary learning but I dunno if I wanna call it machine learning, probably just a set of buckets that gain separate probability tokens the more you hide in a certain type of area

[worthy lagoon]

Sure love making the enemies so stupid that they won't notice one of them have died

[dense hatch]

realistic stealth would be terrible

[worthy lagoon]

Realistic stealth is what stalker trilogy delivers

[finite dragon]

They could have a system similar where the npcs can go into “lockdown mode” and blind fire into the direction you’re in until your location is compromised

[worthy lagoon]

That's no machine learning

[dense hatch]

and it's terrible and pointless and nobody uses it

[worthy lagoon]

It's just a script and pattern

[gilded magnet]

Eeeh, yeah you are right, but i didnt say its perfect. But as a overall package the best currently imo

[finite dragon]

I’m not saying there has to be, I just expected they would’ve done that given the hype of how the npcs were supposed to be realistic

[worthy lagoon]

That's your opinion, it's more realistic than other stealth systems

[jade geyser]

I love fried chicken you now?

[worthy lagoon]

I managed to do some stealth stuff

[dense hatch]

it's garbage, this is well known

[velvet hemlock]

How old are you because games back in the early 2000s had better stealth and AI than today's hot garbage.

[jade geyser]

Kfc in stalker2 when?

[gilded magnet]

35

[worthy lagoon]

It's still realistic and doesn't make the enemies retarded

[dense hatch]

the closest there is to stealth is using a silencer to get one or two extra kills, there isn't even really stealth because you're so easily detected, just getting close

[finite dragon]

Stalker 2 should’ve stayed in development and we should’ve gotten it sometime in 2025, It would be cool if they could release some teaser demos for $3 to make some money so they aren’t pressured or whatever, but money and community pressure probably drives games to release early now

Don’t blame them but still wish they kept it in the oven

[worthy lagoon]

Maybe hide in a bush and don't make noises and play at night, I've managed to steal the mercs computer on CoP vanilla and managed to steal Agroprom docs at night on SoC

At least it doesn't make the NPCs dumb

And it doesn't take them 4 business days to spot you like if the person has severe myopia

[finite dragon]

I guess so, I guess my impression has been skewed by YouTubers like drewski or whatever it’s called

[dense hatch]

both of those are far more difficult and far less fun than engaging with the well designed parts of the game

[velvet hemlock]

We all know Star Wars outlaws has the best stealth mechanics ever

[worthy lagoon]

I still prefer these which puts an actual challenge rather than fighting against a visually impaired NPC

[finite dragon]

Those games are appealing because they are new and more fresh… most games are starting to feel like arcade style to me now so I was hyped on this idea that I could finally play a first person tactical shooter in an open world on console

[dense hatch]

except it's using a broken game mechanic that they barely even thought about implementing and never thought to properly use stealth, and CoP attempting to use it was also yet another failure of that game

[tacit oracle]

I personally think "stealth" in a game like stalker should be less "silently taking down a base soldier after soldier" and more "everyone is aware they are under attack and freaking out but they don't quite sure know where the shots are coming from". This is something that, admittedly, far cry does well once things get going. And I've successfully done that in the bigger areas like the factory at garbage, just running around all over the place and plinking a dude or two before running away again. It's a bit like sniper or ghost recon breakpoint.

I would appreciate more detailed sound profiles for weapons and ammo however, people are way too used to silencers turning weapons into a "pft" that enemies can't hear even if it's fired right next to their face, or people going completely quiet once someone stabs them on the back.

[worthy lagoon]

Yet it is more realistic and you can still accomplish certain missions

[dense hatch]

and like many attempts at realism, it is fragmented and terrible for gameplay while using "realism" as an excuse

[worthy lagoon]

Realism is a word that I personally added regarding the stealth system since compared to other games it doesn't turn the NPCs into visually impaired NPCs

[finite dragon]

The main thing that keeps me interested in the game is the setting and world. And being creeped out. Hopefully later down the line it can be a game I’m willing to spend more time playing once it’s more refined
(Despite me coming in thinking it was a different game)

[dense hatch]

again, it's terrible, if they wanted stealth they should've made an actually fun and interesting stealth system instead of a mess that they want the player to use once

[worthy lagoon]

Still better than a copy paste of other games which all have visually impaired NPCs with Alzheimer

[dense hatch]

it's far worse because it's barely even a system, at least those games attempt to make it enjoyable and interesting, trilogy stealth is lazy and annoying

[finite dragon]

Better isn’t good when compared to trash

[worthy lagoon]

Simply skill issue

[tulip monolith]

player slams a door
"whats that?"
player kills 1 of the npcs
other npc next to them : "must of been the wind"

[celest goblet]

Not really meant to be a fully stealth-able game except for some very specific situations

[tacit oracle]

it MUST have been the WIND.

[worthy lagoon]

Yeah, i hate these systems, it makes the NPCs retarded

[finite dragon]

Stop right there criminal scum you’ve violated the law!

[worthy lagoon]

Like, why would it take you 15 seconds to spot someone

[worthy lagoon]

That too

[dense hatch]

it's like payday stealth levels of annoyance without any of the fun and complicated game mechanics to make it interesting

[worthy lagoon]

Simply skill issue

[finite dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/elder-scrolls-stop-you-violated-the-law-gif-21698958

[worthy lagoon]

I am an actual stealth lover, that has completed PD2 stealth levels on the highest difficulties

Yet i still dislike how dumb the stealth system is

The NPCs are still way too dumb and visually impaired

[tacit oracle]

I mean it's kind of a requirement for stealth in any videogame really. There's a reason you don't usually see groups of criminals swiping a shop during working hours or smth
The one thing I do think stalker 2 needs is more reactive NPCs, like I've sometimes surprised them and you can see the gears turning in their head while they're staring at you before they decide you're a threat and they should do something about it

[dense hatch]

stalker doesn't even really have stealth, it's more of an accidental extra mechanic

[civic ferry]

Just out of interest, what kind of game did you think it was? No right wrong answer just genuinely curious

[worthy lagoon]

You clearly never managed to steal the Agroprom docs at night

[dense hatch]

PD2 stealth is fun

[velvet hemlock]

Splinter Cell was legit the best stealth game

[tulip monolith]

I think I did actually do it at night and stealth, then that 1 mutant made me shoot the place up lol

[sweet lintel]

hey does alife work yet?

[tacit oracle]

no alife machine broke

[celest blaze]

goated series

[tulip monolith]

I honestly dont mind it if video games cheat stealth by making npcs dumb when you crouch. As long as they've done it in such a way that the player doesnt realise to keep the illusion

[celest blaze]

i loved splinter cell: double agent people slept on that game

[worthy lagoon]

https://youtu.be/Qho_9FvKZpU?si=sarO12IYpipMoskbu

The helicopter won't even spawn if they don't detect you

[tacit oracle]

They kinda need that. Like, people will complain about stealth being not realistic until it is, then complain it's too unrealistic lol

[sweet lintel]

oh ok, then i wont reinstall stalker 2 yet because its such a broken disappointing game that should hhave spent another year in development so that we dont end up so sad and so disappointed so thats why im not installing it yet. im going to wait until it far suprasses the old trilogy because thats what we were expecting it to do, a game from 2024 should be more complex and sophisticated and bettererer than a game from 2008

[velvet hemlock]

I like how Arma does it. Where not alerted you can get close but then once they've detected you you better run fast or they'll be on you from 1000m away, but this only works at a large scale unfortunately

[sweet lintel]

its ok babe...you dont have to worship that monolith....

[tacit oracle]

bad broken fake lying poopoo game smh

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/monolith-preacher-games-stalker-gif-19391373

[worthy lagoon]

Do you care about lore?

[sweet lintel]

yes i do care about lore that why do you ask? btw when i say you dont have to worship the monolith i mean you dont have to worship a broken game just because its made by your favorite developer

[tacit oracle]

right, I mean I do think that with some tweaks stalker 2 can have the best of both worlds, in the sense that enemies don't detect you when aggroing and they react to each other's queues, from looking at novichok's CFGs the AI does have a ton of components to its perception and reaction and I hope once the SDK is out people can fine tune it further. Right now there's a ton of stuff that is there, just not evident, like movement tracking in addition to just visual and audio tracking, and object permanence once you break LoS

[finite dragon]

A hardcore game where the gun play is realistic, the NPCs think for themselves, and you’re not the main character, you’re simply visiting the zone, you’re not saving humanity you’re in for yourself. Stealth would be a big part of the game as a few bullets can kill you, you have to find ways to give yourself tactical advantage. Weapons would be completely customizable and certain sights wouldn’t be limited to certain guns. Equipment would be based off of real life and anomalies could have lore that could make their existence believable. Mutants wouldn’t be bullet sponges but instead be their only evolved type of organism with different strengths and weaknesses. It was a game where I could climb a building and shoot down on a compound, they’d panic and blind fire in my direction and start looking for me strategically. Stalkers wouldn’t just pull out an iPad and PayPal me crypto for saving their whole faction. You exist in a world that doesn’t revolve around you

[worthy lagoon]

Then you are going to have a problem

[celest goblet]

Realistic, this series is not

[dense hatch]

never has been

[tacit oracle]

it was back in the OG gamma, then they spun it off into stalker and everything went downhill

[finite dragon]

I understand now

[sweet lintel]

but why?!?!!??!?!?!?!

[coarse sparrow]

I keep reading that people are still having problems with ||On The Edge|| mission? And can't defend the settlement, I guess GSC has still some work to do on that front in 2025.

[velvet hemlock]

So stupid question, I have a 3080 and I actually just started playing. I'm getting almost 60 fps with DLAA and everything on at epic at 1440p. Every other unreal 5 game I have to use Quality DLSS and with ray tracing balanced. Are there some hidden graphics settings or did they optimize a lot with these patches?

[sweet lintel]

wasnt directed at you specifically

[tacit oracle]

I don't think they've optimized the game that much imo but your settings do make sense for the card you are running.

[velvet hemlock]

I saw people with better cards than me complaining that's why I asked

[tacit oracle]

game will struggle in certain areas like zalissia and slag heap but in the field it's not hard to have consistent 60

[sweet lintel]

whats wrong with the lore in stalker 2? does it corrupt the lore the way bethesda corrupted the fallout lore? im surprised since it is the same company. you know?

[celest goblet]

There's a number of retcons in 2, which I guess was inevitable after so long. Some do not really make sense, but I've enjoyed the story the game has delivered on its own merits. But that's as specific as the non spoilers channel can get really

Hmmm, imo it's in a place where it kinda depends on how you interpret some things written or said in the game. But I have not yet finished the game, I'm just close to the end

To me the core aspects like up well enough to work, even if there are things that make me go "huh, weird" at times

[summer cliff]

I wish NPCs wouldn't wallhack automatically to your position, but aggro to where they've seen you and where they think you'll be. Instead, once they see you they're going to know where you went afterwards even when you break line of sight

[slender stratus]

Weird, they do exactly that for me. I can break line of sight and sneak around the back and they will be pushing where I originally was

[cosmic finch]

Man the black point setting can really cook your screen https://i.imgur.com/I8VTqUv.jpeg

[summer cliff]

You can, and it works but not always. You have to really run far away for them to lose aggro and search for you instead (atleast for me)

[cosmic finch]

The suspicion/search phase is longer and more refined, but once they've got your position you're stuck in that

[sweet lintel]

if the lore is good, i dont mind if its not consistent with the previous games, the problem with fallout is that the story was great in fallout 1 and 2 and the lore was great but then bethesda turned it into a caricature of itself, for example super mutants are supposed to be smart and ghouls too, but in fallout 3 they are both mindless enemies. another example is how one of the towns is inhabited by humans and the town is built around a radiation leaking, unexploded nuclear bomb. who would build a town around an unexploded nuclear bomb??? and then after you complete a quest a bad guy blows up the town???? ummm guess thats what happens when you build a town around a unexploded nuclear bomb!??!?! itd be like building a town around the meltdown site at chernobyl???? bethesda is such a dumb company they cant write

[summer cliff]

Yeah i was talking about the 2nd game

[cosmic finch]

The OG FO's had plenty of nutjobs too

[sweet lintel]

anyway let me know when i can reinstall stalker 2. in the meantime im going to go get some cosmeting surgery

[dense hatch]

super mutant and ghouls aren't supposed to be always smart, only feral ghouls are automatically hostile and the ones in 3 are a result of FEV with no hand from the master to make specific ones smarter, and the town is built around a cult

[thick wolf]

Is there any way to retrieve my stalker 2 save on my Xbox and use it with the steam version?

[dense hatch]

spreading misinformation about fallout lore, some people

[celest blaze]

Bait

[dense hatch]

it's just most fallout fans

[celest blaze]

fr they outed themselves as not even paying attention lol

[tacit oracle]

apparently you can yes, it depends from game to game but from what I read you can just rename the file and load it on the steam version. I just started a new game 'cause didn't feel like messing around with saves, but you can google it up

[urban basin]

Fallout 1 and 2 were also really goofy anyway

[celest blaze]

fr

[hard trench]

So I am a nvidia user. I've been needing to delete shadercaches and stuff to load the shaders.

After that the game runs excellent and looks great on high settings. But when I load a save again (like after dying) the game starts to stutter like crazy.

Anyone have a theory on why that is?

[celest blaze]

nothing was ever really serious in fallout it was never meant to be a sim or realistic

[tacit oracle]

the whitename lyfe

[urban basin]

This game likes to have memory leaks mostly on nvidia gpus for some reason lol
Try setting hair and shadows to medium (also what gpu are u using)

[tacit oracle]

performance's been pretty stable for me so far (3070)

[urban basin]

I havent had any 5 fps situation myself but i have an AMD card

[hard trench]

Ah i don't have the specs currently. But my rig is starting to show it's age a lil bit.

If I recall its along the lines of nvidia rtx 2080 or something like that.

[thorn ermine]

its ok babe...you dont have to worship that unexploded nuclear bomb....

[hard trench]

But again. The game runs really well on high after I've cleared shader caches. Its just that after dying and loading a save it starts to stutter crazy

[thorn ermine]

If I turn off frame gen I get drops to single digits, if I'm lucky 10-15 frames

[tacit oracle]

@hard trench I mean you'll get stutters if you essentially overflow your vram. I run 1440p, balanced dlss, medium preset. Works well except in settlements where I'll go from 60 to 45 average FPS. You could look into installing an engine.ini tweak and see if it helps, as well as uncapping your shader cache size on the nvidia control panel. They also recommend disabling vsync in game and enabling it on the control panel instead.

[urban basin]

Yeah i heard that happens quite often
Maybe try medium hair and shadows and see if it fixes that if not try asking again in #pc-specs

[sweet lintel]

yes you do? what?! ban this man please?! extremist propaganda much?! the unexploded nuclear bomb is the one and only universal truth? mods why are we allowing this fake propaganda?

[hard trench]

I've actually never touched the nvidia control panel so that's an excellent suggestion. I believe vsynch is disabled by default.

[granite mortar]

mods why are we allowing this fallout talk in #⭐┃nospoilers_general

[tacit oracle]

Usually it's set to application controlled iirc, I've seen recommended to disable vsync and uncap the fps limit ingame and setting it "on" from the control panel. I personally haven't seen a difference but some people swear by it.
The shader cache size to "unlimited" or 100gb might help more with that. 1.1.3 is doing weird things with the shader generation so it could be that the stutters is the game struggling with that. I've never recommended doing it, but after 1.1.3 I disabled my startup cache generation after doing it once successfully, you could also try that I guess.

[sweet lintel]

sorry i was wrong about the ghouls but, its still dumb its built around a nuclear bomb and i dont think the cult thing justifies it

[hard trench]

Yeah Im sure they'll fix this issue. They've already adressed it and launched a hotfix (disabling shaders) but I just can't play without it😅 too immersion breaking

[tacit oracle]

they did it as a way to help people who were getting stuck games on shader generation, but they just keep making things worse. I've gone from launching every time to about 50% in successive "patches" lol
Once your cache is built you don't really need to rebuild it again (except if you update the game or your drivers), so I just ran it once and then disabled it on the engine.ini. It's not ideal but having to force close the game once every two launches was getting on my nerves.

[cosmic finch]

Is this the power of A-Life https://imgur.com/a/9stAKJ3

[hard trench]

Yes I am one of those who got stuck🤣

They do alot right with this game but this shader stuff is them stumbling fr 🤣

[tacit oracle]

I mean I feel for them 'cause they're having to juggle a ton of possible hardware combinations on post-release while also trying to fix or patch a ton more stuff, but god damn.
Fully expecting being able to get in game 1/10th of the time by the time we get to 1.2

[celest goblet]

Weird issues can happen with compilation. Hopefully they get sorted out finally after new years

[sweet lintel]

this is inteded behavior!!! they were wearin thermo-optical camoufalge!!

[hard trench]

Anyways, thanks for the help. I'll try that nvidia panel stuff

[tacit oracle]

yeah, hope it works. There's a couple more things you can try like engine.ini tweaks to enable async loading or limiting your shader pool, though all of this came out on release and I'm not 100% on how useful/relevant still is, but maybe you get that sorted out.

[hard trench]

Thanks and merry christmas!

[dense hatch]

the cult was a good portion of the population, and the plane allowed for enough resources to make walls and houses

also wrong about super mutants, and the lore being good

[river tiger]

What's up guys I just arrived

[tacit oracle]

we were expecting you

[cosmic finch]

Just in time

[empty gorge]

you are rendering and derendering them at 95m i think and the delay in the popin creates this effect

[thick wolf]

Thanks, stalker

[tacit oracle]

@thick wolf
you got it working?
I'll admit, I would have probably tried it if I didn't have two profiles worth of like 5 hard saves plus quicksaves plus autosaves lol
Oh yeah important thing, make sure to copy out the gamepass saves before uninstalling the game. If you uninstall it from gamepass, it will delete the save folder.

[tall swallow]

Just finished my first playthrough and wow

[cosmic finch]

Yeah, looks like they're literally despawning to go offline and then respawning hence the brief T-pose

[coarse sparrow]

guys, how long till full overhaul mods come out for Stalker 2? Three years plus?

[celest blaze]

probably tbh

[slender perch]

next year

[celest goblet]

Need time for people to build small mods upon which full overhauls are built

[tacit oracle]

7 to 10 days

[mystic nova]

so is Pripyat locked in the story or can I go there at beginning of the game?

[meager kindle]

why stole from tarkov?

[alpine topaz]

Locked

[mystic nova]

SMH that lame, can’t just explore it pre beeeeeeeepppppp

[strong urchin]

Anyone know how to get the first 3 stalkers to work on a ROG ally? It runs, I just mean button wise

[celest blaze]

lorerim 3.0 dropped yesterday

[thick wolf]

I haven't put my plan into action yet, given the holidays. I've just been thinking about it because I moved my PC to a usable location.

[smoky lichen]

what's up folks

[slender perch]

time for another playthrough

[cosmic finch]

Varan ||is the biggest genius in the Zone. ice both his enemies and he still thinks it's a good idea to try to kill you||

[tacit oracle]

Megamind move: ||set up your throne next to very open and very undefended windows, surrounded by explosive barrels||

[meager kindle]

tarkov

[dim topaz]

fr ||he was wasted potential. He has bodyguards called "Iron" like he's some tough sh but ultimately dies to a random nade like "oh sorry didn't see you there"||

[tacit oracle]

lmao he actually ||stayed there sitting on his ass|| after I ||naded his boss into low earth orbit||

[potent bluff]

Does anyone know how often the game auto-saves?

[gritty knot]

[tacit oracle]

after combat sometimes, when changing zones sometimes, after completing quest objective pretty sure, after sleeping,

[potent bluff]

Aye thanks

[wraith socket]

Just a reminder. This isn't the channel to post spoilers and then black them out. There shouldn't be any blacked out text in this channel. If you want to discuss spoilers, don't do it in the channel labeled "en_nospoilers_general". Please go here: https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/1308034374473617459 Thanks.

[lapis jasper]

can someone explain what the hell they did to the shaders that's causing them to fail every time now?

[torn umbra]

yall know a good damage/health balancing mod that doesnt boost mutant/enemy damage? getting kinda tired of getting wasted in a few shots while i dump 13 rounds of AP 5.45 into a monolith guys head and not do a damn thing to him lol

[slender perch]

just a reminder, this game is pog and chat is cute

[feral agate]

It's beginning to look a lot like kissmas

[tall swallow]

Doing a rerun on stalker difficulty is going to be a treat after veteran

[meager kindle]

is Corsair 5000D Airflow good case for 7900XTX?

@orchid gale

@orchid gale

[arctic galleon]

how many times people ||die||
||fighting|| the ||pseudo giant|| on ground whilist that ||pr%&k|| conviently is "covering" you up top out of its reach doing a poor job firing at it whilist your running around constantly lol
||x3 mission||

[analog ether]

One neat detail i've noticed is that zombies don't appear to be aggroed by your flashlight, at least not as much

[dull birch]

The man is a pretty special breed of stupid

[arctic galleon]

How many people got massive frame drops ||fighting fauss|| I couldn't even aim at him and, id aim then get massive frame drops then he'd do that
||psychic hand thing||, and this would go on repeat haha

[dusty coral]

Did bro not see the message

[arctic galleon]

Some of us worked all of Christmas bud,so if your referring to me reply to my message instead making me wonder if your replying to me or not, so which message is this?

[sly matrix]

#⭐┃nospoilers_general message

[arctic galleon]

Cheers I did not see this message

[arctic galleon]

So #❔┃gameplay-advice is part that we can grey out spoilers ?

[sly matrix]

No, #☢┃stalker-general

[arctic galleon]

Got it, cheers for heads up

[sly matrix]

Anytime👌

[arctic galleon]

Haha I forgot to change my role preference to see it, that's what it was

[finite dragon]

Um where can I report a bug that I am experiencing rn?

[mighty sentinel]

Tarkov is wiping for 8 hours what should i do

[sly matrix]

https://support.stalker2.com/

[sly matrix]

#💬┃en_offtop

[finite dragon]

Can I tell everyone about the bug so they can avoid the same mistake as me?

[sly matrix]

If you can do it without spoilers, sure. Otherwise it might be better to post it in #🤨┃stalker_memes

[finite dragon]

It's not in memes tho just to let everyone know that do not trade with the bartender over in rostok there's a bug rn once u are done with trade u can't open your inventory u can't move and I can't pause the game u have to force restart your game

[sly matrix]

Whoops

Wrong channel referal. My bad
#☢┃stalker-general

[finite dragon]

It's fine I am just trying to help anyone out yk?

[sly matrix]

Haven't heard of this before, odd

[finite dragon]

It's been happening to me a few times I just can't trade with him anymore until they patch it up

[sly matrix]

Well, there's better traders than barkeep anyway

[finite dragon]

I just need the drinks

[noble surge]

It doesn't happen just with him. I ran into the same bug with Eugene but can't reproduce it. You just have a chance of getting this with any vendor in Rostok after leaving the trade screen

[mighty sentinel]

I still cant wrap my head around how good the game could look with real RT

Im contemplating to not play the game until the feature is added actually. Because it makes THAT big of a difference

[frank dew]

I wish NONSTOP was available in my country

[finite dragon]

Hmm weird I am just trying to help u guys out is all

[noble surge]

Wasn't criticizing you or anything - just sharing that it's a relatively common bug with all Vostok vendors

[finite dragon]

I see my bad

[loud lynx]

is the lead container or additional artifact better as an upgrade

[sly matrix]

Upgrade

Of an existing container

[gilded magnet]

Wait what, it is? Damn, thats the first bug i havent encountered so far, and i've been more or less living in rostok since i got there.

[noble surge]

For what it's worth, I ran into it once and it went away on its own after I reloaded an earlier save from before I ever entered Rostok

[gilded magnet]

Thanks, but thats like 150 hours to late for me now. i've earned millions and spent millions at those traders. hah

[shadow lodge]

i just joined, dont know if theres a forum or announcement to check so ill ask here, is there any way to fix the exception_access_violation error that happens randomly after an average of a few minutes or less?

i posted a message of the crash and it deleted warning me not to post the same message over and over again but it was far from the same.

[sly matrix]

Yeah the spam-filter doesn't like lists of that sort

[toxic temple]

Anyone experience a bug where your guns upgrades have all reset?

[dull birch]

You have a screenshot of the error?

[toxic temple]

so fun fact I fixed it

[nimble cipher]

pixelatedcrustacean has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[west shadow]

@dense hatch I'm not aware of any but I haven't had any game time there this patch, but I believe there is more mem leaks in the game then initially thought or possibly introduced by this patch

[grave verge]

Good morning freaks

[near dove]

Snorking around the lesser zone, having a happy holiday 🎶

[latent mango]

sooo wtf do i do. i cant progress anymore in my 60$ game cuz of a soft lock, already tried goin back through older save files...

tried googling for a fix, but the only fix causes a voiceline to repeat forever, through my entire playthrough...

[smoky totem]

Play MTG and wait for fix

[jade geyser]

Hello world!

[solid dome]

Krezzin back in da crack

Howdy, howdies!

[arctic galleon]

What part u soft locked on?

[latent mango]

Wishful thinking, zotov wont spawn.

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-disgust-yikes-the-office-michael-scott-gif-17223316

[frank vector]

Do i need to do anything to get persistant AILife? i seem to still get units spawning adn despawning when following?

[solid dome]

https://tenor.com/view/tone-tony-soprano-capo-madone-face-palm-gif-7314761

[unborn field]

Speaking of Rostok, Barkeep bugged out for me. I got the reward for a side quest after handing him the required artifact for the mission, but the quest didn't update as finished in the quest log in the PDA, so I can't take any other quests from him from that point on. Talking to Barkeep doesn't show any dialog option for the quest, only the general what's new in the zone thing.

[jade geyser]

first of all you should ask "A life fix patch when?" here in this chat

[nimble cipher]

sntry has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[snow orchid]

updating my drivers made my game run like butter holy crap

[loud lynx]

where do i buy 5.56 ammo, no traders sell them

nvm

[cosmic finch]

Are you sure they aren't just going offline after 95m?

[cosmic finch]

Долг trader probably has every ammo type

[loud lynx]

found it at rostok, didnt notice it at first

[inland topaz]

Ugh steam.

Everyone here's chill af.
How's everyone's little holiday going? Hope everyone's having or have had a good time!

Nice to see some normal conversations for once

[mellow locust]

Pre a life patch nothing was chill here. Steam Forums are generally a very bad place to look for good conversations just like reddit

[modest sky]

Hi people

[sly matrix]

The vibe here varies from moment to moment, we got bad times too

[grave verge]

wait till the snorkers are waking up

[sly matrix]

Please don't summon them

[gilded magnet]

Yaniv also has 5.56, and malachite if youve been there

[inland topaz]

50x more tolerable, you win some and lose some.

Seems to be every patch we hear distances of crowd's screaming.

They come in hordes on steam 🤢

[hardy bear]

The discussions here change like the tides, seems fairly tame at the moment. But anything is better than steam discussions lol

[frank vector]

95 meters or minutes? If 95m thats not really that far. Is it not connected to draw distance?

[solid dome]

Wassup folksters

[cosmic finch]

Meters, it's draw distance but they don't disappear after that, they go "offline" and respawn once in range: https://imgur.com/a/9stAKJ3

[slender stratus]

🫃

[ruby oyster]

DlSS made mine go from 30 fps on medium to highs of nearly 100

[fierce wagon]

i cant find any persistent alife in the game what is going on?

[jade geyser]

dlc when?

[fierce wagon]

moses i have two videos showing npcs despawing and i go to where theyre and the npcs are gone. https://youtu.be/p_GrI_gE-6M?si=r7x-NMxo0wyJxjYj example 1

[cosmic finch]

It looks like they could have headed left over the road by the time you got there. Or the persistence just isn't working yet

Many people have reported it working though, on zoneslugs videos

[grave verge]

check.

[finite dragon]

All of my missions are bugged, second playthrough. Now the game cant compile shaders or it gives me a warning and i cant press any button to start. What is going on with this game?

I had to get a console command to complete sawmill after the colonel was invisible for his cutscene, what next?

[finite dragon]

Happens here for me, if and how i get it to even start is random too

[near dove]

Snorky baby, skiff down my chimney tonight

[pseudo rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-guy-joji-george-kusunoki-miller-filthy-frank-confused-gif-17930381

[celest blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504592685428899851/1320203498348089355/FINGER-WAG.gif

[crude bison]

I gotta ask what kind of insane person uses the inverted mouse option

[celest blaze]

Fr I've only ever used that to fly planes in warthunder can't imagine fps

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, I can't do that either

It's wack as heck

[hardy bear]

i know two people who do, it's definitely unusual but I suppose if you used it when first playing games it would feel natural

[queen ice]

People from Australia

[lunar copper]

good lord y'all still on them snorks

[crude bison]

They are pretty insane

[meager kindle]

today is tarkov wipe I Hate you all and i see you all tommorow

[lunar copper]

still playing Tarkov

[knotty valve]

hey had a quick question my fps drops from 140 to 1 i would move around for a couple mins then my fps goes to one and the game freezes then after a couple minutes the game goes back to normal my specs are 4080 super ryzen 7 7800x3d 32gb ram is there anyways to fix that or do i wait for a update?

[granite mortar]

they arent real anyways

[queen ice]

They are real, they're just inverted

[ember gust]

that's a bit rich coming from a dude? who habits a dcs-server

[crude bison]

You can’t call me out like that

[tiny token]

Meow

[ember gust]

mjew

[bleak carbon]

Hi, have they fixed the bug in return to slag heap ?

[tiny token]

I flew a heli irl and it's unironically more comfortable than in battlefield games lol

[pseudo venture]

Wth I just found out you can put M10 Gordon into the pistol slot

[upbeat kite]

It’s a issue by binding such a extraordinary cpu like 7800 with nvidia sock 🧦

[upbeat kite]

Tarkov=fortnite?

[meager kindle]

sadly

[jade geyser]

how he can sit and play games upsiide down if he is from Australia?

[hearty compass]

Merry christmas guys i am now back home

[cunning vigil]

I know right it's crazy

[celest blaze]

thats insane haha

[celest blaze]

merry christmas welcome back hope you h ad a good time

[queen ice]

Ductape

[celest blaze]

aus isnt even real its a gov psyop

[granite mortar]

Australia is made up
a fictional place they "sent the criminals to"
but in reality
they sent the criminals to the parlament

[worn oar]

[heavy sable]

[celest blaze]

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/big-ears-cat-big-ears-cat-cat-with-big-ears-gif-27709709

[tiny token]

Meow

[meager kindle]

godo afterono

[daring storm]

Dead server, dead game.

[celest blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188461429683134565/1311348835947122708/dalinlike.gif

[night summit]

What can I do if a certain NPC doesn't show up in the cutscene
the voice is there but the guy itself is not (invis npc)

[daring storm]

Get some x-ray glasses

[meager kindle]

tarkov servers still down DUH

[granite mortar]

Good

[celest blaze]

good

[meager kindle]

its not GOOD for my Mental health OK i need to play right now and then stop playing after 2 weeks

[granite mortar]

Tarkov fans will do anything but play good games...

[meager kindle]

im not tarkov fan i just play the game each wipe for 2 3 weeks

[daring storm]

Can't you just play SP Tarkov mod?

[meager kindle]

i can but its older version

[granite mortar]

As if the updates made the game better

[muted valve]

have you all had a good snorkmass?

[jade geyser]

dead chat

[granite mortar]

Lets talk about how great and soulful SoC is

[jade geyser]

cs > soc

[north violet]

Not really a fair comparison since GAMMA is built upon years of community modding whereas S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 isn't even on the same engine.

Plus the development of GAMMA didn't have to go through the same circumstances that S2's development did.

[meager kindle]

@celest blaze

[north violet]

I do genuinely like a lot of the features that were added by Misery and Anomaly/GAMMA to the point that I wouldn't mind seeing them officially added into S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 down the line.

But there was also stuff I disliked which I would prefer remain mod-exclusive.

[granite mortar]

Bait used to be believable

[meager kindle]

i mean he belived it 😂

[north violet]

I can't remember, does CS have Wild Territory in it? That probably remains one of my favorite maps in the whole trilogy.

[granite mortar]

No...

[celest goblet]

No only SoC has Rostok/Wild Territory

[jade geyser]

faction wars are the goat

[celest blaze]

I miss CS faction wars

Killing freedom is based

[north violet]

@granite mortar Thanks you two, couldn't remember off the top of my head.

[jade geyser]

you know what I miss? You telling me to not post twerking duck in this chat

[granite mortar]

Real stalkers dont kill for ideology
They kill for lootie
Thats why you should join Freedom in Peak Sky and Dooty in Call of Pripyat

[heavy sable]

Why is the game so dark at night? My gamma is at 40%

[jade geyser]

make it 70

[heavy sable]

It’s still dark. Do I need to lower my contrast maybe?

[jade geyser]

turn flashlight on

[north violet]

Because we're in rural Ukraine and there's little if any light pollution.

[heavy sable]

So just leave it? It’s crushing the blacks as well

[chrome cape]

Shhhhhh

[heavy sable]

Ok wait. Brightness helps if I mess with it

[jade geyser]

yes

[heavy sable]

Gamma doesn’t seem to change anything except the menu screen

[north violet]

Some of the lighting stuff will probably need to be adjusted by GSC at some point through patches, but nights in the game are supposed to be dark. If anything I sometimes find them to be too bright and...blue. They need to make the nights more like they were in the original trilogy, but they also need to make the flashlight less useless and add NVGs back in.

I live in a rural area IRL, it is PITCH black at night time, and if it's cloudy and you head into tree cover it gets even darker.

[heavy sable]

Yeah I still want the game to look super dark but also not to the point where I can’t see anything 2ft in front of me 😂

[jade geyser]

moving to city when?

[heavy sable]

I also wish we had binoculars and NVG again too

[upbeat kite]

Lighter and battery driven flashlights with more darker environments. Tension would be more present rather nvg’s.

[heavy sable]

I really liked Metros flashlight and the charge mechanic was great!

[granite mortar]

The NVGs were pretty useless in the trilogy
But binoculars
Those were great

[summer cliff]

I pray for dynamic flashlight with its own shadows everyday, right now it's really shit visually

[upbeat kite]

That’s why I replied, and inspired by.

[heavy sable]

Yeah the binoculars even in Metro were useful too and I kept wanting to use them in Stalker 2

[covert stone]

I believe it was in the game files and cut content so hopefully we get them at a later date, well NVG's were unsure about binoculars

[north violet]

Never. If anything I hope to be fully remote one day so I can move even depper into the hills/woods.

The nice part is that where I'm thinking of gives the feeling of being nice and isolated from the rest of the world, but you're really not that far from anything; you get the benefits of privacy and small town living without being an hour+ away from everything.

[celest goblet]

I am hoping binoculars, nightvision, and the encyclopedia PDA tabs will make a return in future updates to the game Edit: and a statistics tab too if possible

[upbeat kite]

I hope they don’t put back nvgs to the game. I cannot imagine walking in Pripyat at night with nvg and experience same tension/atmosphere

There other games to play with nvgs.

[jade geyser]

ability to kill sidorovich and cigarets when?

[covert stone]

You could just not use them, I prefer nvg's later in the game. Imo doesnt make the atmosphere worse especially if the edges of the NVG's are dark

[gritty knot]

Nvgs all the way makes no sense why its not there outwith time constraints anyway, mercs have them often enough

[upbeat kite]

Im on second play through, and assertive disagree about nvgs.

[covert stone]

They should be late game items, could make it so that they dont spawn and not able to buy them until a certain part of the story

[celest goblet]

In the old games they only made things a little brighter while making your vision pretty grainy. I didn't find them super useful. But it was kinda nice to have the option when combined with a flashlight

[gritty knot]

Metro games did it well with the nvgs, could be a mix of old and metro would fit nicely

[elder beacon]

they should add shotgun suppressors

[heavy sable]

It was so immersive

[north violet]

The original trilogy had night vision and it didn't ruin the atmosphere at all.

[summer cliff]

Stalker 2 doesn't need that flashlight charge mechanic. Chornobyl exclusion zone doesn't exist in an apocalypse, people can just buy different batteries for their flashlights

[north violet]

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. isn't post-apocalyptic; the world outside the Zone is fine.

[heavy sable]

It’s my first stalker game. I don’t know crap about the lore

[upbeat kite]

I’m not convinced they have place in the zone. For me would be disappointment hit.

@north violet I’m aware about it.

[granite mortar]

Because people are dumb and believe youtubers who are even dumber

Next question please

[muted valve]

yeah regular good such as food, water, batteries, ammo. guns etc are imported in quite massive quantities by traders through crooked military

[gritty knot]

I do see your point, fear of the unknown is a massive thing that needs to be kept, but have you ever turned your flaslight off inside one of the end game buildings, imo the thing is like a spotlight the way it can illuminate such a small dark area. I think if there were grainy nvgs, and toned down how bright the flashlight actually is it could work. But i see your point

[heavy sable]

Why does anyone stay in the zone then?

[summer cliff]

Because they're not welcome in the outside world for one reason or another. Zone is their only home. Take skif for example. He lost everything on the outside world and went in the zone

[celest goblet]

Money, adventure, running from the law, looking for a sense of purpose, hoping to learn more about the zone, etc

[north violet]

We literally see NPCs with NVGs though, and with its' presence in the original trilogy there is precedent for it to be in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2. Hell, CoP had the option for NV scopes on certain weapons.

If you're really that bothered by it then you can make the decision to not use it once it gets added to the game.

[muted valve]

Four main reasons:

1. making money
2. escaping the law
3. paid to be there
4. dedicated to a cause within the zone, be it a dream or a faction

[gloomy knoll]

The Zone becomes an addiction for Most

They come for wealth, purpose, ideals and stay because its a calling

[heavy sable]

I see, good enough reason

[celest goblet]

The people who come for whatever reason or another often find it hard to leave later

[gloomy knoll]

Take strelok for example

[summer cliff]

I'd like improved flashlight - dynamic shadows from it, and you need to buy batteries from traders or find them to keep it running

[heavy sable]

That’s literally the same mechanic as charging the flashlight

[north violet]

I do wish they would make the survival mechanics actually matter, the way they're implemented now they might as well not even be there. (This was an issue in the original trilogy as well.)

[gloomy knoll]

Guy left the Zone, Formed sircaa at First with the Help of Outside Gouvernements and then returned to the Zone for His own reasons

[jade geyser]

5. Chilling with snorks

[gloomy knoll]

Also known as snorking

[north violet]

I wish the PDAs were actual PDAs too, instead of the huge-ass tablets we have now.

If I was a stalker and I saw some rookie come into the Zone with what was effectively an iPad, I'd make a 15,000 c bet with him as to how long it takes before that stupid thing was broken beyond repair.

[summer cliff]

But they're charging the flashlight because the new batteries are hard to find.

You can recharge one battery for only so long, it just gives up later anyway. Why do it if you can just replace it? It's not like they're hard to find in the zone, people can import them through IPSF by bribing them

[upbeat kite]

The zone is representation of the real world in true colors. Comprehension around trust, awareness, impact of the empathetic nature which is non existent. Moreover it makes you end of the day a loner anyway.

[celest goblet]

Its kinda hard to make a hunger system matter without it being pretty deep. Perhaps that is something they could do though - Like in Valheim where food items give non-stackable buffs that last a long time.

[heavy sable]

I can understand that

[north violet]

I mean, The Long Dark does it well without it being that deep, you're still just filling a bar.

Hell, I'll even go so far as to say that mods like Misery and Anomaly/GAMMA manage to do it well too.

[gritty knot]

Theyd split ballsack hairs in here if they could my man

[celest goblet]

That or food would have to be much more scarce but that doesn't really make sense in the context of the setting either really imo

[north violet]

Yeah food in any of the aforementioned mods isn't scarce at all, but if you're buying it it can get expensive.

[heavy sable]

Seems that way 😂

[tame plaza]

Yeah people go on the zone thinking they'll be rich from it, it's also welcoming for criminals as there are basically no laws there and you can kill and steal as much as you want

[summer cliff]

Hunger system in rdr2 is good.

They need to introduce animal hunting in stalker 2

[celest goblet]

Perhaps, I am not sure how healthy mutant meat would be for you, might kill you faster than the anomalies 😅

[granite mortar]

to be fair PDAs were kind of an early 2000s thing
barely used now so it makes sense people bring tablets now

[elder beacon]

afternoon guys, do you want the devs to add shotgun suppressors

[celest goblet]

I am ambivalent. There are many other things I would want more I suppose

[dull token]

I want mutant destroyers like something that costs so much in game money but it one shots any mutants within range
Or if you use it on a group of NPCs it just kills all of them instantly

[summer cliff]

Not necessary

[cosmic mountain]

Meh I don’t really have an opinion on shotgun suppressors. there are definitely other things I’d like added first like night vision or the fn2000.

[north violet]

True, they're nowhere near as popular as they were back in the 90s and early 2000s, but they do still see use across multiple industries today, namely in applications where a smart phone or tablet just isn't rugged enough/has enough battery life.

I can't see a smart phone or tablet being a practical choice in the Zone, especially given all of the hazards that could easily damage such fragile devices.

Idk, maybe it can be justified by something like "Well they are actual PDAs, but as they were modernized they started to adopt/implement features from tablets.".

I just wish they weren't so big that they take up the whole screen.

[elder beacon]

i personally think it would be cool to have tones of attachments available

[north violet]

The only application I can think of where I'd want a supressed shotgun was if I was clearing out a mutant nest at night or something.

[cosmic mountain]

Yeah me too. I’m all for new content especially that expands on faction relations and the weapons/armor pools.

I think what we have right now is solid but I’m definitely excited to see the mods blow up when official tools get released.

[upbeat kite]

Suppressed shotgun with a cat ~ Postal xD

[rotund phoenix]

I currently have the base version on Steam, does anyone know if purchasing the Ultimate version now will the additional content be added correctly?

[torn umbra]

especially considering that everything in the zone was constructed in a pre-1986 soviet craphole and power outlets to charge phones would be few and far between and otherwise taken by more important things like lights, tools, etc

[safe badge]

I wish you all a merry christmas be well❤️🎅🎄🎁🔔❤️

[crystal merlin]

The artifacts spawning need to be fix, it is possible for the artifacts to be spawn out of map or in unreachable places, the only workaround is to have a save file where you stand at least 100m away from the anomalies field, and if you don't have that, you're out of luck, because the artifacts will stay there forever, I got one stuck in the old mill and one stuck in ahroprom factory

[north violet]

I was going to bring that up too; if these things aren't real PDAs (and likely containing solar-powered batteries), then where the hell are we charging them and how are the batteries lasting so long?

[simple temple]

im soft-locked from doing the "back to the slag heap" quest 💔

[celest goblet]

A mystery of the zone just like where electricity comes from for places like the bar

[north violet]

They need to make anomaly fields spawn more than one artifact too like in the original trilogy. In CoP you could get up to three artifacts from the large fields, even something as small as the Boiler anomaly could spawn up to two.

[elder beacon]

how about a mosin rifle with pu scope

[torn umbra]

considering there was absolutely no (civilian market) solar panel capable of sufficiently powering something like a PDA in a short enough time for it to last for days in the year 2012, i can only assume the batteries are energized by close contact with electric anomalies

[finite dragon]

shelters make no sense in this game. im literally in a building thats safe and still getting hit by emissions. Dogshit game

[north violet]

I've seen speculation that PDAs in the trilogy were solar-powered in the same style as calculators, but yeah it never made sense for the reasons you said.

It was likely just regular batteries, which is why I unironically approve of certain mods requiring you to power it with batteries.

[cosmic mountain]

Maybe if it was early game. Even in anomaly or COC I saved up more for a akm and an optic. I will say I definitely want a laser on my tacticool monolith AR.

[finite dragon]

try to defend it @tulip crow you cant buddy

[elder beacon]

fair enough , but i would enjoy using ww2 infantry rifles

[north violet]

I think concrete and brick are the only building materials that can sufficiently protect against an emission.

[torn umbra]

tbh that and headlights being battery powered are the only reason i could condone the existence of batteries in gamma-like spinoffs, but i also kind of like the idea of stalkers finding some sort of way to power their stuff using the ever infinite sources of electricity that the zone itself provides them
(on that note, i do wonder how much electricity your average electro anomaly produces)

[north violet]

I think Misery had the battery powered head lamps and PDA first but I'm not 100%.

[celest goblet]

I kinda like the weapons in the series being at least semi-modern to modern. It is sci fi after all

[torn umbra]

sounds like a misery thing but i think it was also an anomaly thing, could be a tossup between the two

[finite dragon]

im literally in a concret and brick building. Softlocked because the devs cant bother to flesh out a core game mechanic.

[granite mortar]

you miss the part where its mostly poor people who go into the Zone
so they just pack whatever they have home and go
100 Dollar PDA is quarter of a monthly salary there so most wont buy it just for their one trip to the Zone

[rocky raptor]

guys why wont the game respond when I press a button to continue

[coral locust]

Guys I have a question, what does the small cogwheel icon besides a weapon mean?

[torn umbra]

its modified/upgraded

[coral locust]

can I remove its upgrade?

[cosmic mountain]

I’d say the same thing until the monolith come with PKM’s and shred me 😂😂😂

It would be an interesting mechanic for sure. But my heart belongs to the FN and exo combo lol.

[north violet]

Well Anomaly is built on Call of Misery or something, which is basically Misery but in the Call of Chernobyl mod. (I don't remember all the details, sorry.)

[elder beacon]

in the words of the Australian marksman man "have a plan to kill everyone that you meet"

[upbeat kite]

I feel snorkelicious. 🐈

[vital cedar]

Ngl while I do get why it’s annoying, I do approve of mutants tanking gunshots. They’re creatures beyond our understanding, of course they would shrug off our steel like so many flies

if anything I would add what resident evil 2 remake zombies do to fleshes/bloodsuckers/other “runner” mutants, where each shot tears more and more off them but they still keep coming

[coral locust]

It would make the game very easy if they got one shotted also

[upbeat kite]

Does almost same thing, however S2 lacks animation for flesh decrease xD

[vital cedar]

impressive

[upbeat kite]

I know, right. Especially flying snorks after explosion.

[torn umbra]

i thought anomaly was its own standalone built off of CoC but with some misery-inspired survival stuff

[hard trench]

cpu: Intel Core i5 10400 @ 2.90GHz

RAM: 16gb

gpu: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

[meager kindle]

2GB 2060? Damn

[dire dagger]

bro got the fake 2060

they dressed up a 750 ti for bro

[mellow locust]

Is that a thing ?

[dire dagger]

fake gpus are much a thing but

i imagine bro just miss typed

[meager kindle]

my game runs 5 fps now wtf

[worn oar]

[hard trench]

It's what it says on speccy😅

[dire dagger]

uh oh bro...

[hard trench]

I'm a noob, lay it on me

[dire dagger]

well download this and see what it says https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/

[gritty orchid]

i think gpu-z also "warns" users if they have a fake nvidia gpu (idk how they detect it tho)

[hard trench]

what am I looking for?

[worn oar]

Ah, this is a software to detect your specs I think

[dire dagger]

memory size

[worn oar]

[hard trench]

it says 6114mb

[dire dagger]

thats right

your gpu is real then

[celest goblet]

Tragedy averted

[grave verge]

stop flexing

[worn oar]

What does he have?

[dire dagger]

this card can be had on ebay for the price of a 4070 ti

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256760849369

[magic coyote]

perfect to go to those juicy 60 fps

[tawny flume]

One the questions asked if this game will go along the progress that unreal engine 5 makes no it shouldn’t this game is already a nightmare on pc come to optimizing and stuff it’s good where it’s at no need to

[worn oar]

No idea

[tawny flume]

Saying it should stay where it’s at

[magic coyote]

wat

[coral locust]

I also had one more question, do u guys carry any other guns besides the main two and the pistol? Im trying to manage my inventory but as soon as I pick up a different gun im overweight

[distant knoll]

I got to a mission go to the sawmill and a cutscenes supposed to happen but it’s not

[tawny flume]

Off yourself or reload save

Idk not got far in the game

[magic coyote]

the further you go the less you want to play

[upbeat kite]

Sounds like a game collector.

[gilded magnet]

Mostly, no. Now I'm at lategame and carry a rhino on the side instead because it's so damn punchy and good. But for the vast majority of the game, no.

[distant knoll]

I tried everything this thing ain’t working

[urban basin]

Reload an older save

[distant knoll]

I did

[granite mortar]

On Last Day
Which is a shitpack for Call of Misery
Which itself is port of the worst mod for CoP to CoC

[urban basin]

I had to go back to like a save from 2 hours before the mission for it to work
Hope you find a way to make it work

[heavy sable]

For me, I use Gambit, SPAS-14 and the ClusterF

I might try out SMGs again now that the Vector is dropping regularly instead of shotguns

[distant knoll]

Do u rememeber what mission it was like before the talk with colonel guy when u we’re with that bandit guy

[urban basin]

Mine was just before talking with the colonel no idea

[distant knoll]

Ok

[grave verge]

ClusterF is based

[gritty sun]

just the main ones unless you have items gear that will let you carry lots of extra weight

[weak shuttle]

I finally picked up a copy on Steam

[grave verge]

I saw an ROG STRIX 4090 for 1.2k - nice deal if it works

[weak shuttle]

Problem is I have to wait until my new harddrive gets here. 186 GB is a lot and I play the large games a lot XD

[upbeat kite]

Sounds snorkelicious.

[weak shuttle]

Yes I've been waiting since it released for a good chance to buy and Christmas was it

[granite mortar]

Stop Snorking for Snorks sake...

[dire dagger]

thats kinda sus but

[upbeat kite]

I apologize for my snorkish behavior. I realize now that it was completely snorked up, and I promise to snork better in the future.

[weak shuttle]

I bought a 4TB HD so I think I'll be set for a while

[granite mortar]

stop Snorking it man
nobody needs to see that

now please stop talking about snorks
like seriously, it got out of hand lately

[upbeat kite]

Ohh, bittersweet i will do so.

[celest blaze]

🤨

[worthy lagoon]

Weirdo

[muted valve]

Snorkers have been the target of bullying for too long 😦

[heavy sable]

I prefer it over the unique AKM from the start

[clear mango]

are there any uniques that are worth using over the regular version of the gun (assuming both have the same upgrades)

[meager kindle]

yo nikita fix ur game

[celest goblet]

I liked the unique fora and integral

[upbeat kite]

Well well, fun is prohibited. Need to respect it and move on.

[tepid jay]

Who else here thinks the game feels too easy compared to the older titles? When I compare it to the old games, where even on the easiest difficulty you could die after just a few hits, I now have to play on Veteran just to get at least a small challenge. Sometimes I even deliberately use worse gear to make the Zone feel a bit more threatening. I really hope they'll adjust the difficulty level at some point. I'd prefer not to rely on mods, but it seems I might not have much of a choice.

Also, has anyone else noticed that even though A-Life 2.0 has improved a bit, enemies beyond around 100 meters (I can't confirm the exact distance) are no longer visible? And sniping still doesn’t work the way it should. Hopefully, this will get patched in the future.

[celest blaze]

snorkers bring it on themselves INFACT it is all of our civic duty to harrass and push them out of any and all places where they hide

[lunar sky]

Hello all, in 1.1.3 with shader loading fail, its normal?

[heavy sable]

The game is not easy tbh

[clear mango]

aiming on controller feels off, and at times it feels like enemy ai have aimbot

also my rig isn't very powerful, but everything past midrange ooks extremely blurred

[celest blaze]

CoP on master was such a joke lol

[magic coyote]

That's because all the bullets are hit regardless of the distance, it's something simple, a mod adds a system in which depending on the weapon and distance they miss more

[mystic nova]

Free

[crisp ruin]

What free?

[celest blaze]

free cat gif

https://tenor.com/view/floppy-giga-chad-cat-chad-giga-gif-25871385

[static compass]

Kitty

Welcome back to helpers @celest blaze

[celest blaze]

thank you 🫵

[static compass]

[waxen hearth]

shoutout that guy asking for the take all button to get removed that is an awful opinion lmfaoo

[celest blaze]

wait what ? 💀

[waxen hearth]

look in GSC answers somebody actually wrote to GSC asking them to remove the take all button I kid you not lmfaoo.

[old thorn]

Fkij lol

[grave verge]

thank u so much

[muted valve]

we snorkers stand tall and proud in the face of your hatred, Cringe D Lite!

[waxen hearth]

yo the owl guy doesn't have an option to hand out quests, is this intended or bugged?

[muted valve]

did you get quests from him before?

[near dove]

We snorkin in here? 👀

[waxen hearth]

yeah I did, he was giving out random quests and stuff

[muted valve]

is the quest still in your quest log? like you've completed it, got the reward but it hasn't dissappeared from there or been marked as completed?

[waxen hearth]

no quests from him in my quest log

[muted valve]

that's curious, there was a bug at some point where you turned in a quest but it didn't actually properly trigger, it might still be the same bug but not showing that much. If you're on PC you could try following this thread to cancel the quest (which might still be bugged even if it's not showing) using a console command: https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1h7gjxj/psa_fix_radiant_repeatable_side_quest/

[waxen hearth]

That worked! Usually the quest is still in my logbook when that happens and I have the option to talk to the NPC, but nope, not this time somehow!

[muted valve]

Yeah it usually still showed for me as well, but bugs be bugs, glad it's fixed 👍

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

Free cat gif?
For... me?

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[celest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-cat-smile-cat-cool-cat-gif-297291901262297802

[granite mortar]

Omg
Cat

[cosmic finch]

Love the quests that go "find person", some other guy turns up, quest goes "kill this guy..." ok kills guy "BTW that was optional and you just sided with the bad guys"

[dense hatch]

you are murdering people

[cosmic finch]

The dude I was sent to rescue is bleeding out and some guy is in the next room, I'm not going to go in there and have a philosophical debate about his motivations, I'm throwing a grenade in there

[summer cliff]

I love how quests has me deal with bandits but newly introduced alife traveling fleshes do it for me

[tawdry geyser]

Miracle hoarder has got to be the most obnoxious time consuming achievement I have ever done man

Ive spent the last 20 hours trying to get my last 9 artifacts only for them to never be spawned man

Gives me every single other artifact over and over except the ones I actually need

[wide wedge]

spent the last hour trying to do this one mission meanwhile my game drops to 45 fps and there is no saves whatsoever

[onyx thunder]

No spoilers obv but has anyone else had a lot of issues with the latter part of the game especially the end segments? Getting a lot of crashes and game breaking bugs

[wide wedge]

not really mostly just terrible fps

[nimble cipher]

archy3861 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tawdry geyser]

This game has the most tedious achievements I've ever attempted to get man . Imagine having to waste 25+ hours for a SINGLE ACHIEVEMENT

[cyan ivy]

🫃

[cosmic finch]

Ehhh some achievements in RDR2 probably got you covered there

[tawdry geyser]

I just don't understand why games have achievements that take 25+ hours alone

[dense hatch]

for fun

[tawdry geyser]

Yes man so fun

[gritty orchid]

skill issue honestly

[tawdry geyser]

Delusion

[cosmic finch]

Nobody is forcing you to do them all and gamerscore is worthless

[gritty orchid]

achievements are meant to be "achieved" naturally you dont need to rush your playtrough just for them. thats on you

[tawdry geyser]

I haven't rushed anything man .I got 3 days on this save and I have explored everything . I'm cleaning up achievements .

[tawdry geyser]

I'm a completionist , I don't usually get this frustrated it just feels like I haven't had any progress in like 5 hours

[west spoke]

Anyone have a fix for losing game saves on Xbox on pc?

[tawdry geyser]

I have reloaded the save probably 75 times now and I've gotten every other artifact other than the one I need

[zealous pumice]

metro bundle for $5 on steam you say, what a steal.. >:D

[zealous pumice]

g a m e p l a y

[celest blaze]

25 hours is nothing tbh

hell people have thousands of hours in games

[wraith socket]

@granite mortar

[tawdry geyser]

Right but 25+ hours for a single achievement is ridiculous

[celest blaze]

that seems like it would happen normally in a playthrough

[tawdry geyser]

Na man I mean 10 is normal

It's just frustrating having legendary artifacts spawn 10x more than common ones and having to reload saves a hundred times for a single one

[mint viper]

Holy junk the endgame is so bugged

[plain jay]

I’m 22 hours deep and just to the swamps. Loving it. Would love binoculars and a way to loot mutants. Other than that 11/10.

[mint viper]

I hate the swamps. Btw run away from the ||chimera|| don’t fight it. It can be invincible or at least super buffed. Plus theirs an achievement for it.

[urban basin]

A bandit spawned in the corner of my screen and shot my butt
Jumpscared by the ai 😭

[jade dagger]

Just got my grandfather to play Stalker 2 he loves it. He’s been playing it for about an hour and a half

[plain jay]

Swamps is so rough. I just run. Sound design needs a little help as everything sounds all around me.

I run all the time. Rat life.

[mint viper]

Oh yeah I died a bunch didn’t help I was beyond over encumbered having to constantly drop stuff. My tip get the weird water first. Or if you’ve started after

[tawdry geyser]

The chimera didn't even spawn for me in the swamps

[glad condor]

Hello everyone, i've just finished the main story and i'm watching end credits. Is there something worth watching till the end or can i safely skip it without missing anything?

[mint viper]

I’d like to know this too. I assume theirs no new game+

[glad condor]

Nope AFAIK

[mint viper]

I wish they were more clear when you wouldn’t have access to your guns. Like put a stashe and stuff beforehand and reccomend getting your best guns and stuff.

I didn’t get to use so many of my best guns I had spent millions of coupons upgrading for the last spell bc theirs no cache to access my stored stuff and it doesn’t make sense to use your op guns and armor 99% of the time bc of durability. I had the money too repair I was at 1.4 million credits no mods no glitching. Had at least half a million in useless artifacts if not more I could’ve sold too. All on Xbox so harder too. I’m freaking salty.

———

They’re was a million places to at least put a stash and maybe a seller too during it

[tall swallow]

they give you a point of no return warning.

[mint viper]

Yeah long after any access to private stash you’d have to go hella far back for it and probably cause 10 game crashes and a ton of wasted time and frustration in the process. I was aware of the warning but I thought theirs no way they wouldn’t allow access to my stored weapons at some point. It’s as if it’s a linear game from the ps3 era where it wouldn’t matter anyways. Stupid design.

[tall swallow]

dont want to say too much in case of spoilers but the mission area is not far from a settlement. It's on you for interpreting the "Point of NO return" warning in a way that makes you think you could go back for your gear. The entire point of that warning was telling you that this is the end

[glad condor]

So the credits were around 30min long and the game just returns to main menu afterwards. No secrets or achievements for watching till the end. You can safely skip it

[wraith socket]

No Spoilers chat is in red. Spoilers chat is in green. Just a reminder if you do not know. You are in the red zone. Thanks.
BUGS? PLEASE REPORT HERE:
https://support.stalker2.com/

[coarse sparrow]

guys, I am reading there are only 2 dlcs planned? the winter and monolith one?

[celest goblet]

Don't think they have announced anything about what they are but there's two announced story expansions

[magic coyote]

||**Limansk i think **||

[coarse sparrow]

yeah I think this area is part of the monolith one possibly

[hidden olive]

Even though On The Edge is a side mission, if it bugged out for me is it going to have serious affects on the overall stability of the game/campaign if I continue with this bugged playthrough?

[celest blaze]

GAMMA 2 is the 3rd DLC

[nimble hinge]

this is a non spoiler chat mate, no point of discussing about this here

[coarse sparrow]

how is it a spoiler if it does not exist?

[mint viper]

I just beat the game

[coarse sparrow]

I mean, in old stalkers that was the case pretty much

[mint viper]

Frankly it’s up in there air. Cyberpunk was supposed to get 2 dlc but only got 1 mostly bc it took so long to fix and they were moving from the red engine to unreal so backporting would be unhelpful and they wanted and team to get experience on unreal 5.

The most recent news is they are supporting the game with a lot more live updates than they expected to. They also plan to probably expand farther than initially with talks of a show in the works maybe with Netflix. There is dlc planned I’m sure.

[nimble hinge]

why do you even speak about what does not exist then?

[coarse sparrow]

and why do you react on it?

[nimble hinge]

because i dont know if there is any information considered dlcs and im trying my best not to be spoiled anything about them. so if there is any information considered dlcs this chat is not the place to discuss about it

[celest blaze]

im excited to see update 2.3 tbh

2.2 has been neat for 2077

[coarse sparrow]

not against the rules to speculate mate

[nimble hinge]

speculate yes. no point of that tho. just asking in advance not to spoil about it with any real info tho.

[coarse sparrow]

then let me be

[coarse sparrow]

there is hope 2025 will see at least 1 dlc out there

[celest blaze]

ngl hope its at minimum Q4 they have ALOT of things to work on first

[coarse sparrow]

not so long ago, game companies managed to release full two story dlcs in under a year (fallout 4)

@nimble hinge is triggered badly

[celest blaze]

fallout 4 was working at launch

stalker 2 released in a pretty not ideal state

[nimble hinge]

in a very unstable one actually

[coarse sparrow]

I guess u weren't there on the release, Boston at 5fps

[celest blaze]

for console or pc ?

also lets relax and not call folks triggered please keep chat civil everyone

[nimble hinge]

says the guy who reacted to all of my previous messages lol. what a joke. cringe.

[coarse sparrow]

and lets not call speculation spoilers

[celest blaze]

but id take low fps and a working game over high fps and broken core functions

[nimble hinge]

and lets asking for any spoilers in advance not to call as speculation

[celest blaze]

i uninstalled stalker 2 for the foreseeable future

[coarse sparrow]

and block people

[nimble hinge]

its sad that one needs to even choose between two evils the lesser one

[celest blaze]

ong lol i got COOKED im just glad i didnt go ultimate

itll be great down the road but i need space for the other games i got

[coarse sparrow]

btw f4 still crashes if u put one particular setting on in the launcher

[celest blaze]

oh for nvidia cards ?

i think a mod fixes it

i got like 688 gigs of bethesda mods between fallout 4, skyrim and oblivion so S2 had to go for now

[nimble hinge]

i did go for ultimate. and even that game is unstable so much, im not sorry that i went for the ultimate one. i have a faith in gsc that they will fix the game. but im really curious why all of this happened in the first place tho 😦 if they released the clip with explanation im pretty sure many people would chill out lol

[coarse sparrow]

I dunno if related to cards, but its weapon debris, also most of the boston still runs like a dog, so hardly a complete game after all this years, I have more hope for S2

[celest blaze]

fr i have faith they will do a turn round they did alot of patches and i agree a clip would go along way for folks @nimble hinge

[celest blaze]

boston runs fine for me even with 800 mods

[coarse sparrow]

well Stalker 2 runs and plays for me fine

[celest blaze]

Same runs great

I got a great pc I just don't wanna play incomplete game atm

[nimble hinge]

bro you need a bigger hard drive then lol. so many mods.

[celest blaze]

Ong haha I got a 2TB I got about 300ish gigs free atm lol

I need another

[nimble hinge]

oh wow, im enough with 1tb ssd lol. but do you have another hdd to just keep less important files? i have a combination of 1TB fast SSD (Samsung 980 Pro) + 2TB mediocre speed HDD

[celest blaze]

No but that's a good idea actually

I'll have to look into it haha I didn't consider how much space fills up when I built

[dull token]

I have a 2TB M.2 rn as my only storage device but I keep all important files backed up to the cloud

[celest blaze]

this actually inspired me to see bostons preformance with 851 mods i was impressed lol

[celest blaze]

👑

[nimble hinge]

well 2tb ssd sounds nice but you should go for another 2tb HDD just for storing files haha

[dull token]

Is that with mods

rn i enjoy the simple pleasures like exploiting glitches

[wraith socket]

No Mods. What made you think that?

[meager kindle]

I went to play tarkov and instsntly made me realize how horrific this game was thanks bsg

@celest blaze this one seems real no?

[celest blaze]

yeah this ones believable

if i wasnt aware of you practicing i mighta fell for that one lol

[meager kindle]

I spent 35 minutes on woods getting shot at then ive had 5 Quest items on me and fking game crashed lost all my sht

If i ever jump off my 4 story window blame BSG and nikita buyanov specificly

[celest blaze]

id put the game down for a bit after that honestly

[meager kindle]

Yeah i just played scav runs otherwise i wouldve turned into serial killer

I am really calm person but homie this game this game is a hate crime

[celest blaze]

im the same way

warthunder would PISS me TF off

i hate that game so much

[meager kindle]

I played like 6-7 raids and 3-4 of them cheaters no cap i actually belive they make money off of cheaters like theres no way

[celest blaze]

100% its why they dont do mass bans it would hurt profits

old mmo game i used to play wouldnt ban botters who would use the cash shop and would just ban the free bots

[meager kindle]

I die to the guy and this MOTHERLOVER crashes my game so i cant report him Homie Nikita Bro made a game inside your game How the fk he can crash my game How

[celest blaze]

nikita is a bozo honestly lol

[meager kindle]

I can confidently say he spent all the money to his haircut and new ferraris

[celest blaze]

bro got rich after that

he is feeling generous it seems

[meager kindle]

Its the same cycle 1 step forward 2 step back

[celest blaze]

i wanted to give it a chance but i saw all the scummy practices and just couldnt commit

[meager kindle]

In 2023 cheater crisis i learned their trick when theres drama going on Bam new event Bam Banned cheaters 20000 Bam new updates Bam Nikita Being active in twitter

And after its over back to square one you can see the same pattern in 2023 and 2024 Unheard edition drama after a while everyone forgot litreally brainwashing lmao

I wish people had the intellegence to not buy into their shady practises and force them to change but here we are

[celest blaze]

its wild but i forgot what channel we are in haha lets move this to #💬┃en_offtop

[wraith lintel]

anyone here play with the hud all the way off? if so, how do you manage healing?

[worn oar]

[worn oar]

Hehe, if screen went red, you use a medkit or a bandage depending on what red it is haha

[dull token]

Once I recover from surgery im eating a lot of food and drinking alcohol and playing video games the entire day

[thorn ermine]

If you get hit, heal. Don't know how bad it hurt you? Heal again

[dull token]

The hard part is when you have to walk 1km to the nearest base with no medkits

[thorn ermine]

Resource use will go up but that's not really a problem in Stalker 2, I have piles of medkits in my stash currently but I have partial HUD elements on

[dull token]

Apparently the game is just badly optimized. Thats why the initial download was 100GB and any patches are the same size as the initial download

Its a fun game dont get me wrong but I run it on a 4080S and it says it uses 95%+ of my GPU

[celest blaze]

theres something to be said about the older xray engine

i love the older looks tbh

[finite dragon]

Um this is a dumb question but is the vs gun any good? It's the as val from call of duty I was just wondering if it's any good

[toxic vector]

it is an suppressed gun and can get 8x scope, cons is low mag capacity and expensive ammo

[finite dragon]

Damn it is there any good snipers? That u know of? If so just dm me

[toxic vector]

just continue playing, you will find a good sniper with cheaper ammo early game

[heavy sable]

I’m assuming we can’t name any kind of missions here since it’s non-spoiler? Kinda answered my own question I think

[celest blaze]

^

id talk about those in #☢┃stalker-general

[orchid gale]

Wait, where all the snorkers at?

Based scared em away Fr

[thorn ermine]

Man I have a good couple beautiful screenshots of SoC sunsets and sunrises in vanilla. Even with the original graphics the lighting is just incredible

[pastel shell]

bro why are bloodsuckers so abundant. There are literally herds of them everywhere

[arctic lichen]

Tbh flesh and boars should be more abundant. But idk ig GSC loves their bloodsuckies

[mighty sentinel]

Yo guys anyone wants to Play tarkov

[fringe trout]

is there a way to turn off this annoying auto lean

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[silent tinsel]

not that many in the north from my experience

[old thorn]

With the flashlight being crap and enemies having nvg, the map being dark.
Are we ever guna get nvg or are we just guna pretend we would never take one of these insanely useful masks off of a body we killed.??

[whole inlet]

yeap, and you can't take their infinite grenade artifact either

[sand fiber]

stalker

[mellow locust]

what is that? the breast piece doesn't look like a duty armor. oh damn maybe it does if its suppose to be an exo suit

[finite dragon]

why are there infinite spawns for monolith in pripyat? stupid asf

this game is unplayable

[olive halo]

i heard the game have immersion breaking bugs, how's the game doing now?

[noble surge]

Tbh most open world games have those. It's been mostly fine since the second or third patch and is much better than the state of the media review copies

Fwiw, review copies were even before day one patch so the experience you get now - while still buggy in spots - is far better than what the press and youtubers got

[near dove]

Game is perfect

[north orchid]

womp womp

[gloomy knoll]

Infinite spawns? Game's unplayable!

Thats not... how it works

[worthy lagoon]

What does that even mean

Haven't you followed up the story?

[pallid yew]

good morning guys! i have a bunch of "broken" quest items in my inventory, which take up space & weight. i kept playing for a bunch of hours longer but i still have them and it seems like i cannot turn them in anywhere. i saw it is a known issue on reddit. does it make sense to restart the game with a fresh save & hope the next playthrough runs smoother & has less bugs?

[wraith socket]

No Spoilers chat is in red. Spoilers chat is in green. Just a reminder if you do not know. You are in the red zone. Thanks.
BUGS? PLEASE REPORT HERE:
https://support.stalker2.com/

[near dove]

Has anyone had any problems with ||snork snork snork snork snork snork snork snork||

[muted valve]

of course not, how can there possibly be a problem with that?

[gloomy knoll]

Daring arent we?

[pearl jacinth]

DARK ✅
GRITTY ✅
YUP.... ANOTHA #HALFLIFE2BETA CLASSIC

[jade geyser]

@velvet mountain why are you reacting on my messages from a week ago?

[velvet mountain]

Probably because I just read it now

[pearl jacinth]

no

[jade geyser]

Pls say yes

[pearl jacinth]

the strelok is only for the best in the zone

[trail kestrel]

Ahh freedom Still gothim

[jade geyser]

No pls, delete or they ban you

[crisp ruin]

[pearl jacinth]

what're you lookin at

[crisp ruin]

word

[pearl jacinth]

[crisp ruin]

Too late

I saw it

[jade geyser]

No, you dont

[pearl jacinth]

it is lost media now. lost to the zone

[crisp ruin]

I can see everyrthing

[pearl jacinth]

can you see deez mamas beads tho

[crisp ruin]

yes

[jade geyser]

Can you share this view with us?

[crisp ruin]

no