⭐┃nospoilers_general

[exotic mural]

Baaaaittt

Not all eotechs are created equal but I've had a generally favorable experience

Kid named delamination

[dense hatch]

at least in games because I cannot afford nor do I need a 700 dollar sight

[exotic mural]

Well yeah no shit a reticle is gonna be different in a videogame

[dense hatch]

this channel is for a videogame what other context would it be in

[exotic mural]

Thats like saying the toyota mr2 is a bad car because you drove one in forza

[dense hatch]

can you read

[exotic mural]

We were talking about the mosin nagant (real gun) iron sights (real irons) and other guns (real ones) and their irons (also real)

[dense hatch]

y'all were in the wrong

#💬┃en_offtop goofus

smh

[exotic mural]

Your roles are a bit lacking for that. Try again later.

[dense hatch]

what do I need dice for

[shrewd bison]

Ouch

[dense hatch]

honestly reading comprehension has fallen so far in the past couple of years

[shrewd bison]

Wow guys we're touchy today huh

[finite dragon]

Stalker fans be like, "dark scape sucks" my brother in Christ it was scrapped because it was meant for a driving section in the game

[shrewd bison]

Darkscape buildo bratva

[finite dragon]

I think dark scape is cool in call of Chernobyl but it's also wayyy too big

[dense hatch]

I don't know how darkscape would've been with how jank the handful of attempts at vehicles have been

[quaint trout]

We should. I have no idea how much this would cost, but if someone covers the technical parts, we could just make one until the release of stalker 2. I'd throw some cash into the pool for that.

You know, just giving something back to the community.
And because i want to play stalker multiplayer vanilla.
And give back to the community.
But also to play Multiplayer. >.>

[granite mortar]

It was scrapped because it sucked
And nowadays it sucks even more because nobody bothers enough to actually make content for it

Its literally only good in Lost Alpha and OGSE/OGSR

Its one of like 3 things Lost Alpha did good

[loud gate]

We should totally challenge GSC to a duel

[lilac lily]

It sucks so much nobody cared enough to give it a proper name in all these years. "Darkscape" is just its technical name since it connects the Dark Valley with Escape (Cordon)

[granite mortar]

gone thankfully

[quaint trout]

How about we just start our own server first? @loud gate >.>
Im quite sure GSC has other things to do shortly before release

[granite mortar]

just call it Canyon
Shrimple as that

certified Lost Alpha moment

[loud gate]

I meant it as a joke))) But if they want to.. then)

[quaint trout]

I'm sure Zak knows some insane trickshots 😄

[loud gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613519734318694407/1267673866776346701/zok.gif

[worthy lagoon]

Can work on that

Never heard of it, i think

[indigo marsh]

It's like a brand of food

And they make what sena_lancer said but in a cardboard sleeve that is meant to protect your hand from most of the heat

[worthy lagoon]

Lmao

@slate halo gonna microwave you

[normal bobcat]

Is the FPS in the UDP video in #📰┃announcement low for anyone else or am I tweaking

[celest blaze]

its deff choppy

i wonder if they used a console this time lol

[elder robin]

I just now realized that the stalker series has mod support on consoles ...lol

[celest blaze]

it's very light support

[elder robin]

Welp now after I'm done beating the series I'll be playing with mods until stalker 2 comes out

[worthy lagoon]

Discord compression sucks

[elder robin]

Any mods yall recommend?

[normal bobcat]

Oblivion Lost Remake maybe

[elder robin]

Interesting

Whats that like

[dense hatch]

death stranding

[worthy lagoon]

Are you playing on PC tho

[worthy lagoon]

RTTZ

[dense hatch]

RTTZ requires CoP though and I'm not sure how that works on console

[worthy lagoon]

Stand alone

If he's on console he cannot play Oblivion Lost either

[dense hatch]

no like you need to own CoP to play it

He's on console

[worthy lagoon]

You always need to own one of the games now

[dense hatch]

not until October 2025 I thought

[worthy lagoon]

2024

[dense hatch]

ok so another month

[worthy lagoon]

If i remember right

[dense hatch]

currently you don't need any of the games for most mods, RTTZ is an exception

[worthy lagoon]

Either way, most of the mods always required the trilogy

[dense hatch]

standalone mods?

[worthy lagoon]

It's the other way around

Most stand alone mods always required you to own one of the games

[dense hatch]

that's not true, hold on a second

[worthy lagoon]

These mods (CoC for example) check the registry key if you ever downloaded and activated a legit copy of the game

[dense hatch]

yeah just checked chymo's list which has a couple of the more popular ones and you do not

literally only 1 mod out of the dozen or so listed

ones that aren't modifications for the games already

even stuff like op-2

[worthy lagoon]

No?

[dense hatch]

are you looking at the list?

the only standalone one that needs any of the base trilogy is RTTN

not RTTZ, woops

still, point stands

a very famous example is anomaly

[somber hawk]

there wont be anymore standalone mods like anomaly for stalker 2 because you will need stalker 2 to play them

[worthy lagoon]

Spatial Anomaly

[dense hatch]

not standalone

[somber hawk]

spatial anomaly isnt really standalone

[worthy lagoon]

Wind of Time too

It requires CoP

If i remember right

[dense hatch]

guess what

it doesn't

[hardy bear]

how can I tell if a screenshot has saved properly in COP? believe the keybind is f12 but I've got no clue if it worked or where to find it

[dense hatch]

using the steam screenshot application or the ingame one?

I think the ingame one is stored in a folder

did you try searching for "screenshots"

[hardy bear]

steam overlay isn't on and hasn't worked since I started playing, so just the base one

[dense hatch]

*in the game directory

[hardy bear]

ah yes, there we go

was checking documents

[spring apex]

theres a camera stutter sound effect everytime taking screenshot. so to make sure that

[dense hatch]

hey how are they planning to enforce the game requirement?

or for mods that already exist but the people behind them are unreachable?

[hardy bear]

for a city supposedly 'filled with artifacts' according to the rumours mentioned earlier in COP, i'm finding a very large sum of absolute 0

[dense hatch]

rumors breed rumors I guess

[somber hawk]

mods that already exist wont be enforced

[dense hatch]

where does it say that, nice if true

[somber hawk]

it was somewhere but i dont know where

but its also common sense

[hardy bear]

are there actually any artifacts in pripyat?

[somber hawk]

yes

[dense hatch]

In CoP, there's a couple areas

[hardy bear]

cause i've found literally nothing so far :/

[somber hawk]

qhat detector do you have

[dense hatch]

common sense and game company

[hardy bear]

savrog

[dense hatch]

they aren't just lying around, they're only in the anomalous areas

like the vine or some of the marked buildings

[somber hawk]

also go artifact hunting after emissions

[hardy bear]

i'm aware, but I just couldn't find any of those areas

spose i'll carry on looking

[dense hatch]

could just be really unlucky

it's not nearly as plentiful compared to the other 2 zones oddly enough

[somber hawk]

jupiter is best for artifact hunting iirc

you dont need to run alot

[dense hatch]

I think zaton has one circular loop you can make that's pretty effective

[hardy bear]

zaton's been fun for artifacts

[somber hawk]

also you can take the quest from eggheads in jupiter and put the artifact detector thingys so you know where to go

[dense hatch]

I think any artifacts can spawn anywhere?

[dense hatch]

can't you do that in zaton after marking all the spots in jupiter

[hardy bear]

had a look on the wiki and I believe they have set spawns

[somber hawk]

no

[hardy bear]

I always get elemental resistance ones in the anomaly where that damage is dealt

[dense hatch]

I never really bothered to do them because you don't need to do that many loops to be set

[somber hawk]

only the first artifacts have set spawns

[hardy bear]

ah, i see

either way, i've finished the game now :D

[somber hawk]

cool

i finished it 3 times

[hardy bear]

definitely my favourite of the 3

[somber hawk]

same

[hardy bear]

the quest design, characters, the underground section and the final push through pripyat was excellent

[dense hatch]

I don't like it as much as the other 2 because of stuff like the final push

[hardy bear]

and the ending slides were very cool too

[dense hatch]

I prefer the combat and loot progression of stalker which CoP doesn't really do the best

[somber hawk]

cop has great characters

[hardy bear]

I did feel like I got rich very quickly

[dense hatch]

it's just a lot of relatively small stuff like the way unique weapons are handled and how the quests and characters really are the only thing keeping it together

the medkit changes, easier economy, 2 escort quests, very low human combat

[somber hawk]

i like little stuff in games like side quests so CoP is the best of 3 in that regard

[hardy bear]

but the idea of finding tools to upgrade stuff I quite enjoyed. Overall the mini level design of the non quest related areas, and the rewards attributed to them, made exploring rather fun

[dense hatch]

if I wanted sidequests I would just play something like NV/4 to scratch that itch that CoP is going for

[hardy bear]

but yeah I think each of the games does something better than the other, but they are all fantastic

[dense hatch]

true

[normal bobcat]

Sorry for the late reply, got distracted TLDR; its a mod based upon the earlier concepts from STALKER SoC's development

[dense hatch]

CoP does exploration on the first couple playthroughs absolutely amazingly

[somber hawk]

every stalker game went for smth diffrient

[hardy bear]

if stalker 2 carries even a shred of what these games offer then i'll be in for a fun time

[dense hatch]

perfect combination would be combat as good as CS, music and areas like SoC, and the exploration and quests of CoP

[hardy bear]

sounds good to me

[somber hawk]

once stalker 2 releases i am going to definitely 100% it in the first playthrough

[hardy bear]

it really did feel like each game was a sort of trial, a stepping stone where they tried something new each time

[dense hatch]

it's nice how there's something new in each game

not just the same experience 3 times in a row

[lean quiver]

kinda like dark souls

[dense hatch]

except an FPS and consistently fun

and without bossfights (besides CS)

[hardy bear]

yeye. Retracing steps and visiting the same places across SOC and CS felt a little cheap when I first started, but then realised that it's an opportunity to witness the differences between them more clearly given the differing time periods

[lean quiver]

Raytraced Strelok Soul Boosted, Penetrater of the zone

[dense hatch]

the changes to the maps are nice but CS is best when it's doing completely new maps like limansk and red forest

[somber hawk]

i am thinking of making stalker video that shows most cut items and stuff would it be interesting?

[dense hatch]

there's like 30 of those because there is so much cut content

[somber hawk]

alot of them only show guns and shit

[hardy bear]

I watched the really long one covering that topic, was hella interesting

[somber hawk]

there was alot of other stuff not covered

[hardy bear]

seems like the games really struggled to even launch

[dense hatch]

apparently they cut grass shadows right before launch which I didn't know until now

[dense hatch]

yeah development was famously messy

[somber hawk]

stalker SoC if it launched with all of the features that were planned for it would be like one of the best games of its time if not the best

[dense hatch]

ehhh

it's still a game that came out in 2007 and some of the planned ideas were strange

like the "totally not super mutants"

[normal bobcat]

There are some XRAY source object files dated 2006 that coorespond to a very, very early version of Pripyat Underpass

[dense hatch]

or the vehicle levels

[hardy bear]

didn't they also have some kind of plan to have npcs essentially play the story for you

[somber hawk]

yeah

[hardy bear]

like, finding all the documents before you and the like. That sounds crazy, but I can't imagine it would be particularly fun

[dense hatch]

yeah that would suck

[normal bobcat]

It'd of been neat if all the vehicle levels had made it into the game

Although looking at both Deadmil and MilRad, they were very much unfinished.

I dont even think they were compiled into levels

[hardy bear]

Are those names references to what connects them like someone here said this 'Darkscape' was?

[dense hatch]

I just think they might end up like a worse water hazard

meaning far too long and without the polish

[normal bobcat]

yeah

I have the source files to those maps.

[lethal orchid]

the world is better without the Polish

think about it....

[naive fog]

[dense hatch]

[naive fog]

Bro even specified

[lethal orchid]

I did

I'm sorry Strelok/Kvassman

You've gotta go

[naive fog]

Nuh uh

[hardy bear]

Oh yeah strelok’s hairline is rather striking I have to say

[quiet crest]

a monolith member killed himself trying to blow me up

thanks for the free RPG rock worshipper

[toxic spade]

Is loot random in any stalker game or is everything always the same?

[dense hatch]

what loot?

do you mean stashes or everything?

[toxic spade]

I mean, is anything random? I dont know much about the game, i just know it for a long time and since its on ps5 i think about finally playing it

[hardy bear]

It’s static

[quiet crest]

you're gonna have a very hard time on console

[hardy bear]

Stashes exist whether you get the coordinates or not, and everything else spawns in the same way when you start

[toxic spade]

Why? I know a few people who have the ps5 version and they love it and had no issues

[celest blaze]

its not that bad on consoles dont spook them lol

they can play arma on consoles stalker is nothing in comparison lol

[toxic spade]

Oh because of controls? Yeah thats no issue

[celest blaze]

the controls handle pretty good from what i heard my friends say

[toxic spade]

Yeah i only heard positive stuff from the console ports tbh

[celest blaze]

you're going to love the trilogy it's some of my favorite games of all time

[toxic spade]

Im interested in this game for many years but for some reason never played it, i got into the radius yesterday for psvr2 and it sparked my interested again

[celest blaze]

i was the same for pc aswell waited such a long time but the release of stalker 2 got me motivated to beat the trilogy

[quiet crest]

alright alright, ur right i should wait till october to say this shit lol

[normal bobcat]

posted some screenshots of the maps in #📸┃screens_and_videos

[tired zealot]

I just saw the clip and I had that same thought lol, the other footage looks great, and I dont think they were like showcase boosted but it does spook me a bit

[normal bobcat]

I pray its a fluke with the video itself.

[dawn grotto]

holy shit did i see stalker ai in the announcement!?!?

[spring apex]

stashes contents are static, the loot you get from dead bodies are random (even the gun durability condition)

[spring apex]

tell that to shadow of chernobyl and clear sky's stash system

the stash contents only exist when the player get the coordinate (unlike call of pripyat)

[spring apex]

[worn oar]

[upbeat spade]

Do I need to play the previous Stalker games to enjoy Stalker 2? If so, do I need to pay all of them or just Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl?

[still ridge]

You don’t need to, but I think it would help a lot to play all the games

[lethal orchid]

You don't strictly need them but they're great games and you should play them because there are many story implications in stalker 2 that will be very interesting if you play the trilogy

You also might be a bit lost encountering people that are legends

[still ridge]

Especially considering the callbacks to the original games it seems to have

[lethal orchid]

Yeah, many returning characters with really neat implications and story continuations

[dire dagger]

yo bud you alive

[grim palm]

[oblique thistle]

HD strider beard S2

[still ridge]

what

[dire dagger]

never mind worked it out

sorry about that haha

[normal quail]

i finally got akm fast
feels godd a weapon that actually shoot straight withing a 5 meters range

[finite dragon]

Hello. Anyone here went to the pcgamingwiki discord server? Don't go. It's very toxic. They try to ban you only because you want to ask for some help.

[sand fiber]

you'd have to spend like 5 years and it's already been done

certain buildofreaks spent 10 years researching cut content and are still finding new stuff

[sand fiber]

it would've been if CS actually bothered to change anything

[finite dragon]

Lego stalker

[rocky trellis]

Went to steam and checked upcoming games... and spotted a game that looks like stalker. But it's not stalker. In fact they got the audacity to call it "anomaly" like gameplay 💀

[worthy lagoon]

@granite mortar Someone threw a joke that the new Anomaly update is going to have lots of bugfixes and improved A-Life

Many of them believed that dude lmao

I can't imagine them touching A-Life

[granite mortar]

They have promised "improved alife" as part of older versions too
Its literally the single dumbest and least logical versions of Alife Ive seen
Their way of "improving" is getting rid of the hard limits that were introduced for a good reasons

[rocky trellis]

Personally, my only complaint for it would be that mutant movement in the zone is too predictable. Not really issue at all if you play the game once or twice, but by 3rd time you're probably seeing a pattern. Even before you go to a location there is very high chance you guess correctly what you're going to see there.

I think there is very high chance that "issue" will be fixed in stalker 2. Main reason why I think so is because it's open world and there is more freedom for them to move around.

[elder robin]

That's why I can't wait for stalker 2, because of how giant the map will be and how many locations there are, I think it will open up the game for endless unique encounters, a game that no 2 players experience the same

And the fact that most of the locations are hand crafted is impressive

[wraith socket]

I think once Stalker 2 comes out, the interest in older Mods will decrease.

[nocturne hedge]

Hi, I'd like to ask if anyone knows more or less the price of the physical collectors and ultimate edition in €, as it is out of stock I can't see the price in any store, nor the official one, thanks a lot 😄

I'd really like to get one of those two, been waiting for Stalker 2 a lot

[vapid panther]

so its true?

[worthy lagoon]

I doubt they even touched A-Life lmfao

[granite mortar]

they just took CoC Alife and made it worse by deleting even more hard limits

[worthy lagoon]

It's more like that the AI is broken because they never even bothered touching the AI paths in the maps (which is done automatically)

They probably just ported the mods to Anomaly from Last Day but haven't bothered fixing it

Or they don't know how to

[worthy lagoon]

For real

Like when you shoot at an NPC in Anomaly it just stands there or crouches

Especially if you are far away

Meanwhile RTTZ: NPCs can run at you and knife you

[jaunty junco]

Threw me off when they did that, no self preservation

No seeking cover

[worthy lagoon]

GAMMA has that too

I love the Reddit post about GSC new rules to introduce a dedicated section in the main menu

And Grok complained about not having the tools to change that

Meanwhile Jekan: Created a whole menu section when you have 3 separated DLCs with a new character and story so you won't have to download the mod all over again

[wraith socket]

That is from Call of Pripyat 2009. Yellow has always been in the games, although used very little.

[vapid panther]

:(

[wraith socket]

Why the dislike of yellow?

[vapid panther]

stands out, makes us look dumb

[jaunty junco]

Ive rarely seen yellow in places tbh

Just hazard stripes and objects that happen to be yellow

[vapid panther]

thats normal, its just a texture

but the problem is that everyone sees when a hand is held. we know other hand-holding dependand games use it, especially from Ubisoft

[wraith socket]

Clear Sky 2008

[rocky trellis]

Welcome to London!

[rocky trellis]

Hazard stripes are perfectly fine where they belong. But marking some breakable walls and floors

No ty

Many players just dislike handholding game designs

[lusty kelp]

Wasn't it spawned from breaking bad memes that yellow filter = scene is set in mexico.

[naive fog]

That's like half of them

Sometimes I have to reread them a couple times to understand lol

To be fair I might have had one

[granite mortar]

they made the NPCs dumb as shit so they do more stuff
loners with PMms and jackets will wander into SoC Pripyat because theres no hard limits
and they call that "improvement"

[rocky trellis]

Unfortunately so far no answer to question about steam deck. Mostly just curious if its goin to run on it properly, even if on lowest settings

[worthy lagoon]

Back to playing actual real mods

RTTZ

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-bunny-eating-eating-rabbit-eating-gif-12592638528319112613

You see, Anomaly and GAMMA don't have something that RTTZ has

They have Hip because they're simps

but real RTTZ enjoyers have a crazy ass Freedomer wheelchair user

Can confirm? @granite mortar

[granite mortar]

so real

wait Ill go get my seal of approval

[sand fiber]

playing Jekan mods should feminize you tbh

[worthy lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yogurt-yum-yummy-food-gif-17599902469282887748

You rn

[sand fiber]

KURO GIVE ME MY NAME BACK

[worthy lagoon]

It wasn't me

Fr

[sand fiber]

I DON'T WANT TO BE A GROK ANYMORE

[worthy lagoon]

I am not joking

[naive fog]

[worthy lagoon]

It was Vasim this time

[sand fiber]

do it anyway

[worthy lagoon]

Ask Vasim

[sand fiber]

coward

[worthy lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-escape-liquid-cage-gif-6199437

[granite mortar]

omg
gato

[tacit otter]

Is RTTZ Return to the Zone?

[lusty kelp]

Imagine carrying all your inventory on a wheelchair, or a shopping trolley. It makes me wonder. There are mods that allow for dropping backpacks to escape dangerous situations. I think some extra realism would be putting your backpack aside when delving into anomaly, so items inside it like food, meds don't get contaminated or damaged.

[granite mortar]

yes

[worthy lagoon]

Me playing RTTZ and trying to find stashes and quest related items

[tacit otter]

I've been doing a GAMMA run, made it up to Skadovsk finally

[worthy lagoon]

(there was nothing)

[nimble cipher]

universalheart_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[worthy lagoon]

That dude doesn't get out from his house

However, he does [REDACTED] himself with [REDACTED]

[warm linden]

anyway haii hallo how are people tonight? :3

[worthy lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-puke-puke-vomit-kitty-vomit-cat-vomit-gif-10902081098279086080

If you want the real Zaton play RTTZ

[tacit otter]

One thing that's always bothered me about stashes in the games and some mods: why are stashes empty until you get them from a stalker/quest? Like, you can check a stash, find it empty, walk five feet to shoot a stalker, get the stash from him, then go and magically there's stuff in it

[lusty kelp]

He just needs to do what people who in those clips in gmod where they ram through HL2 levels with some overpowered wheelchair.

[worthy lagoon]

Because they can't make the game difficult through gameplay and quests so the only way they make the game difficult is by making almost impossible to get a decent functioning weapon and gear

[granite mortar]

its 11am
wdym "tonight"

[worthy lagoon]

All of that while having a dumb economy

[naive fog]

Sup, I'm good wbu

[warm linden]

for me its 7:16PM

[worthy lagoon]

Sleep

[wraith socket]

It's 4:16 am here.

[lusty kelp]

I have overthought a solution to this, most stashes are hidden inside a box with explosive and need a code. Stashes without code are just well hidden.

[warm linden]

I'll give a shit sometime :3

[warm linden]

I'm doing alright, just chilling :3, might play stalky

[warm linden]

It's 7:17PM

[wraith socket]

I wonder if S2 is going to have open stashes like CoP?

[granite mortar]

thats evening tho
Night starts at 8pm

[naive fog]

The biggest question tho. Does afternoon actually exist

[warm linden]

I cannot care

[granite mortar]

I carrot care
I care for carrots

[naive fog]

Brain stopped working for a minute

[granite mortar]

[naive fog]

Because that would be everything after noon....so that would loop into next day and be everything before noon. Which means that afternoon is everything except noon

[worthy lagoon]

Play RTTZ

Or Goldsphere

You will see how stashes are

[naive fog]

OWA stashes are funny

[granite mortar]

they are peak

no

[tacit otter]

I'm downloading RTTZ now. I'll give it a try soon

[worthy lagoon]

Artifact: blop
Takes one hour to find the stash
Finds it
Opens it
Clicks

[tacit otter]

I wish the console update could be applied to PC. Imagine STALKER without the jitter

[worthy lagoon]

RTTZ

[wraith socket]

Is that the one that has checkpoint saves only?

[worthy lagoon]

no

[granite mortar]

Goldsphere first

[warm linden]

want me to stream it here for a bit?

[worthy lagoon]

no

[tacit otter]

I'm going to bed

[granite mortar]

yes

[naive fog]

Gn

[warm linden]

how could you

[worthy lagoon]

It's best the other way around

[naive fog]

Hell I gotta go in a bit too

[tacit otter]

I'm hungover.

[granite mortar]

no
Goldsphere is a filter
Those who cannot pass arent worthy of playing RTTZ

[granite mortar]

Hi Hungover
Im chymo

[warm linden]

go eep <3

[worthy lagoon]

RTTZ has some filters for those who cannot use their brain tho

[granite mortar]

so does Goldsphere

[naive fog]

Yeah im going for around 2 hours in 20 minutes

[worthy lagoon]

where's the screenshot folder for RTTZ btw @granite mortar

[granite mortar]

Return to the Zone\appdata\screenshots

[tacit otter]

Which version do I need for Goldsphere?

[sly matrix]

Why would you wanna keep screenshots in appdata...?

[granite mortar]

Completion (OGSE)

[sly matrix]

The point of screenshots is so you can find them for later use, appdata makes a point of not wanting to be found

[granite mortar]

no
its shrimple

[wraith socket]

https://i.imgur.com/ZVhEYrs.jpg

[hardy bear]

What kind of mod is it?

[granite mortar]

peak mod for sure

[hardy bear]

Now that I’ve finished the games I’m keen to maybe try some of the mods

[granite mortar]

read my book as Im too lazy to explain stuff
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o996FD2lx1rlHUwY9fmaFo-g_fE9uXPmrx_PoaXsI3Y/edit?pli=1&gid=0#gid=0

[hardy bear]

You wrote a book on this?

[warm linden]

I like RTTZ tbh, mostly because I have a set goal

[hardy bear]

Oh I see, that’s a good mod list actually I’ll keep that

[warm linden]

I spawn in and my objective is to make my way to zaton, that's it, getting there is the fun part

you can spend hours in a single playthrough before even reaching zaton

[granite mortar]

its a spreadsheet but I call it a book because I find it funny

[hardy bear]

So it’s a mostly story driven one then

I’ve heard a lot about free play mods but I’m not really interested in those

[spring apex]

CoC 1.4.22 with STcOP mod, has a random stash that rewards the player with a notebook containing links that when searched in google, directs to rick roll video

[hardy bear]

Incredible

[granite mortar]

they are boring and and usually poorly done too
Especially the popular ones

Easy rule to go by with Stalker mods is "the more popular, the worse"

mods that fall into this category would be Lost Alpha, Misery or Anomaly

[hardy bear]

I might give them a try just to see what all the fuss is about, but I’m definitely more keen to play story mods where I have an actual purpose

[somber hawk]

most freeplay mods are bad

you can make your own challenges but thats it

[somber hawk]

misery for CoP is not that bad

[granite mortar]

it is

idea is good but execution is shit and the authors are sсumbags

[loud gate]

A-Life 2.0

https://x.com/Stalker2News/status/1837454045633507405

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 News (@Stalker2News) on X

Interesting interview with Slava Lukyanenka about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 by feed4gamers, giving some insights even into A-Life 2.0

https://t.co/WmhyqotADl

Twitter · Sep 21, 2024, 11:29 AM

[rotund widget]

It's pretty much what Anomalous described as his experience with that place in his Gamescom-2023 demo trial, without the "stalkers spawning" part tho 😁 I have a feeling the mentioned engagement won't last long within said arch-anomaly as all of em NPCs would much rather get themselves squashed by it in the first few secs, but I guess it would at least be fun to see 😅

[loud gate]

Sounds like a wild battle.

But yes, Slava refers to the same place Anomalous was at. I find it interesting they changed a lot of things based on feedback - We released several trailers, and each time we showcased something, we closely observed the reactions. Thanks to the players' feedback, we changed several aspects of Episode 2, which we showcased at the last Gamescom. We also reworked the way dialogue animations look and changed the shooting mechanics. So, every public step we took was used to gather essential feedback.

[broken latch]

No longer

[rotund widget]

Gotta wait for it to be showcased then 😏

We need a "World & Locations" type vid for "A-Life 2.0" + for some other stuff like suits/armour, guns & upgrades, some of the factions and so on. That trailer was literally the best content piece ever made in terms of showcasing the gameplay, all because it was on point with what it had to offer — showing some of the locations to the audience and present the S2 atmosphere in a nutshell. Show the rest of the gameplay elements sticking to the same trope & y'all will have peoples attention in your pocket 👌🏻

[celest goblet]

Ah so this is more of the sort of event system that was alluded to before

[loud gate]

Yes, it's called A-Life, same as it's called in the first game (but now with a 2 at the end)

[loud gate]

You can't really do that, because W&L is a trailer, and A-Life 2.0 cannot be represented well within a Trailer.

It requires a separate video, or gameplay showing to fully explain and showcase it to its fullest extent.

[rotund widget]

Mozi, you're making trailers yourself — don't tell me it's hard to make a gameplay trailer to show how NPCs react to each other & what they do in their spare time 😁 In "World & Locations" we've been shown a Ward soldier smoking, what I assume is Ward patroling Zalissya & stalkers busy with their routine around campfires — it ain't hard to make a trailer around NPC activities in a similar way 😉

[worthy lagoon]

That happens with normal a-life as well though

He should've given a more unique detail about 2.0 :(

[celest goblet]

I have not expected it to be that different, just working in an open world now with a lot more space to travel

[loud gate]

No, that's not what I'm trying to say. If you want to do it in the form of a Trailer, you can't really do explaining. And if you do it like this in a trailer, it will have cuts, so then you will have people saying it might be scripted, or something like that. This is something SP also touched upon while in Tommy's interview.

[loud gate]

Not to this scale exactly, but it theoretically could happen, yes.

[worthy lagoon]

If you set the right paths and lairs in the map it can happen without much issues, it honestly happened to me quite a lot in CS

I was hoping for some unique information

[rotund widget]

Again — it's a videogame, everything's scripted, that's not an argument no matter how hard brainlets try to present it as such 😁 What GSC's doing rn is precisely "explain — don't show" (and even those explanations are vague), when it needs to be the other way around. Following this logic people might as well say "Slava's talking so much about all these encounters & interactions — but where's the footage?? HE'S LYING, AIN'T HE, IZ NOT IN DA GAYM?! 🤨", which is the opposite side of the BS narrative spectre 😄 Trailer with focus put specifically on showing NPCs actually do things is more than enough 👌🏻

[worthy lagoon]

Like STALKERs looting player's stashes

[dense hatch]

terrible idea

[loud gate]

Of course, that's why if I go to reddit right now and post this, there'll be lots of people saying "Where my footage is??" But it can be done in a video where it's best explained and showcased - think more like.. a deep dive, not a trailer

If you show something and people still say "I believe it when I see it", then it's not a great showcase.

Of course, A-Life 2.0 will never be able to be experienced until you play the game, but eh

[worthy lagoon]

Silly Mozi

Rule no. 1

Never use Reddit

[loud gate]

garbage landscape

[worthy lagoon]

Brain scorcher even

[finite dragon]

we got A-life 2.0 before having a real life.

[loud gate]

We live in a simulation, yes.

[rotund widget]

By all means A-Life Deep Dive is welcomed, but I feel like I already understand the way GSC is currently operating, so if they're about to release a simple "A-Life 2.0" trailer — just do it by "World & Locations"/"Creating Cutscenes" meta, it's gonna work just fine 😁

[finite dragon]

then why the pain feels so bad

[celest blaze]

I am the simulator ong

[worthy lagoon]

It's extremely difficult to show off A-Life

[loud gate]

I do not think they will go that route with A-Life 2.0 specifically, but I guess we will see

[worthy lagoon]

You can explain some of the newer features that 2.0 can do though

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-press-button-gif-14853646

Lmao

[rotund widget]

Well, if you have a trailer revolving around the NPC activities in-game & some still go "I will only trust what I'll experience" — it's rather a personal matter. It doesn't mean there should be no content on the subject cuz some individuals like that exist 😄

[worn oar]

We don't really use reddit, we just need it for specific reasons that we might call necessary evil

[worthy lagoon]

How can you show A-Life?

[loud gate]

I prefer Trailers too, but I'm biased

[rotund widget]

It's a matter of launching the game & following the gunshots in the distance 😉

[loud gate]

But.. I'd really like to see a Trailer where NPCs are just shown around walking, drinking, doing idle activities.. atomspheric.. If GSC doesn't do that, I will

[worn oar]

Oh trust me man, NPCs are not easy to deal with. Devs need to literally have someone play the game NonStop for many hours while recording just to encounter something that shows alife 2 in action. The team would have then to spend a lot of time just going through the footage and all to just show it. So, yeah? You can see how hard it is to show Alife without actually calling it scripted if it's within engine.

You gotta give them some time

They'll show what they can when they can

I believe we have priorities here, and it's letting them finish the game as best as they could. I don't have to see alife 2 if need be

I'll see it when I play the game

But since they said they will be showing it

That's a win

[dense hatch]

the game is coming out in a month the trailer doesn't really matter at this point

[worn oar]

And we can never complain

[dense hatch]

it's cool but also whoever is getting the game is still going to get the game

regardless of the trailers

[rotund widget]

"A-Life" is how NPCs behave separately from MC's direct influence on their own accord, as we all know. You press the "Record" button, take the free cam — and start observing, it's all there is to it. Stalkers patroling the region, roaming around in groups or separately, investigating anomalies, infighting, eating, sleeping — allat happening in the distance or somewhere close to the player without him personally instigating those processes. Not a rocket science, I reckon 🤷🏻‍♂️

[rotund widget]

Make it for the OG games, show em the example 😁

[granite mortar]

S2 pre-ordered
Lets hope they dont cancel my order

[loud gate]

If I find the time after I finish my current project, sure!

[rotund widget]

For hours? Hardly. I'd give it 20 minutes max before something significant happens even at the Lesser Zone region.

[worthy lagoon]

@granite mortar make Goldsphere/RTTZ memes

[loud gate]

It's big and hard project

[rotund widget]

Two years is kinda aight to have a content plan established with A-Life being a part of it, I reckon 😉

[granite mortar]

I will
I have few in mind

[loud gate]

Everything is already planned, but of course you cannot show everything at once.

Remember that Beard post from a couple of days ago? It's been long time planned that even Beard's model is old. He looks more like OG version now, compared to what they've posted.

[rotund widget]

And the point of marketing is to make those being on the fence make the move and get the game 😉

[worn oar]

Oh man, specific encounters that can show specific features are not that random. Many factors are at play and yes, it requires a lot of time. Alife's main purpose is to give the player unique playthrough and zone experience. If the team wants to show something, it wouldn't be that random.

[worn oar]

Yeah, right. However, you need to think in the right way to see what I'm waving at

[rotund widget]

And it's a problem, if you ask me 😅 First of all — you don't just reveal Beard like that, it's a waste, second — the content plan being so outdated that character models in trailers & on screenshots don't even match, what even is this approach?

[worn oar]

Again, the team will show us some alife features soon enough. So, how about you just wait and see.

The team knows what's best to do and what's not. I believe everything they do/did had a reason and you all should be supportive of it.

[loud gate]

Beard Day is the perfect way of revealing Beard really

[rotund widget]

But all the talk around A-Life in the recent interviews with GSC representatives has an emphasis on the randomness of encounters, what's your point then? Show people exactly what's being mentioned, don't just waffle about it, don't show everyone what HASN'T been mentioned to avoid spoilers & leave players a hefty room for surprises — that's what could be done pretty much effortlessly, unless the CEO wants to keep the whole game in the chest for people to get an impression the whole thing is shady 🤷🏻‍♂️

[loud gate]

And yes, this is how everything works in general. Stuff is planned ahead of time. When one shows a trailer, the contents of it are already probably 1-3 months older thant current build.

[celest blaze]

I mean they didn't show us every single thing with skyrim and it became one of the best selling games of all time

[loud gate]

Show people exactly what's being mentioned
And they will, just wait.. they don't want to drop every bit of news too quickly

[celest blaze]

Not everything is shady and evil

[rotund widget]

It's a screenshot tho — shouldn't be hard to take a new one, right? Like literally get to Beard & click the button 😁

[loud gate]

No, it really isn't, but then again, it was something planned, and probably didn't want to change it anymore. Why? Because yes.

[dense hatch]

what kind of moron buys a game over a single trailer, honestly

stuff like the deep dive is assurance enough

[celest blaze]

Us with elderscrolls 6 Ong

[dense hatch]

todd has me in a chokehold at this point

[celest blaze]

Fr same honestly haha

[dense hatch]

I don't even need a trailer for that game

[rotund widget]

All I care about is the game being shown in the most attractive light possible as I'm rooting for its success. Reusing old materials over and over again accompanied by poetic/cryptic descriptions & somehow repeatedly making mistakes in the earlier showcased materials does not do the job, frankly 😅

[loud gate]

Filler Posts

[rocky trellis]

I have ni hope for Elderscrolls 6... Bethesda losing touch with rest of skyrim

[loud gate]

Although I agree, I don't see why these announcements exist: #📰┃announcement message

[rotund widget]

The public called "gamers", mate, also known as "fans of videogames" & "game players", for which the marketing campaigns are held — they do, sometimes

[dense hatch]

so morons

[celest goblet]

Eh, people should be more discerning with their purchases imo

[rotund widget]

I mean, if you wanna call someone playing videogames as such — yeah then 😁

[dense hatch]

mhm

shouldn't buy a game until reviews are out

[lusty kelp]

I suppose it's part of grander marketing, or you do a trailer cause everybody makes trailers.

[rotund widget]

Developed & published by who exactly? Don't recall Bethesda being close to nonames in the wide audiences perception back then 😁

[rotund widget]

I'd buy the "not so fast" argument if it was still Fall 2023, but 60 days prior to release people yet to have a concrete idea on the complete 35 gun arsenal in the FPS game & still making up entries, A-Life talks aside 😅

[lean quiver]

8 weeks boys

[celest goblet]

Eh. As it was explained in one of the recent interviews, there is a push and pull between the game director who would prefer to leave everything for the players to discover on their own and the marketing team who wishes to show as much as possible

[rotund widget]

Lads can literally have a single informative post per week at this point without even touching ANY storyline details whatsoever with all the content they have on hands, but we still "need to wait" 😁 It's around 4-6 posts from now to release apart from the interviews & gamefests, which people are also actively discussing — "fillers" can finally rest at this point 😄

[loud gate]

I understand the fact of not showing too much, but please let Zak cook more like in August 🙃

[rotund widget]

Few dynamic anomaly detector beeps in separate rooms was enough to send the shockwave around the world, fella — and it's literally 5 seconds of a roughly 2-min trailer 😁 Dedicated vids can go a long mile if done like that

[loud gate]

I can already imagine the conversation inside GSC office:

Novikov: We should show Scar
Evgeniy: No, that's spoiler, should not show.
Zak: But, Evgeniy, it's good for marketing.
Evgeniy: Show frogs instead.

I'm joking, but back in July it really felt this way lol

[rotund widget]

I'd argue showing Scar was bad for marketing 😅 It's because new player base couldn't give less Fs about who that guy is as they've never touched or heard of the OG trilogy, therefore it's not a selling point for em at all — but for the diehard fans it's a crucial spoiler that ruins a surprise reveal. That was a miss if we're talking advertisement.

[loud gate]

It creates hype within the community, theories, etc.

Makes people talk about the game a lot.

[celest goblet]

Eh it got me more interested in where this story might be going. The fact that it was scar was actually sort of a footnote in the trailer, compared to his beliefs and faction

[rotund widget]

"Within the community" — and then Ievgen Grygorovych explicitly states in the interview they want to introduce STALKER to & attract as many new players as possible 🤷🏻‍♂️

[celest blaze]

GSC isn't no names though

[rotund widget]

If that's the main goal, which I believe it is indeed, then Scar trailer was not it

[celest blaze]

I knew about stalker when I was on console back when the trilogy was out

[loud gate]

Yes, because you have to please both

[rotund widget]

They are, in fact, nonames for the wide gaming audience, S2 is literally their first project marketed on such a scale & aiming at AAA coverage.

[sand fiber]

ehhhh

[celest blaze]

I don't agree with that at all

[sand fiber]

i think you both over and underestimate the popularity but whateva

[celest blaze]

Shadow of chernobyl sold 2 million copies in 2008

That's not no name esp back then

[sand fiber]

GAMMA sold Grokallion in 2021

[granite mortar]

I think yall should stop arguing and go play OLR 3.0 instead

[sand fiber]

also 1mil of that is like postsoviet countries

[granite mortar]

ratacombs my beloved

[sand fiber]

YES HIFLYER PUTTIN TWO WARLABS IN THE GAME IS A GOOD IDEA

[rotund widget]

Then why have fans got a bit disappointed with such a huge reveal being made so early? For content creators that trailer is indeed pleasing — the general sentiment on YT and web is "we'd rather be taken by surprise" 🤷🏻‍♂️

[pseudo urchin]

hi

[rotund widget]

Russian market.

[celest blaze]

And the west bro

[rotund widget]

Then 2 millions for both markets is not that big of a number 🤷🏻‍♂️

[granite mortar]

peakflyer

[sand fiber]

no, only half of that

[celest blaze]

Do you know what gaming was like in 2008?

[granite mortar]

identify yourself!

[celest blaze]

It wasn't nearly as popular as it is now lol

[pseudo urchin]

hi

[sand fiber]

i wonder if there's another warlab at the end of the game

oblivion peak remake

[celest blaze]

2008 I believe was a big financial market crash

[granite mortar]

I wonder if OLR 4.0 will have all underground areas replaced with warlab

[sand fiber]

ratacombs will be 15 warlabs stacked together

[sand fiber]

rostok will feature 3 warlabs, too

[rotund widget]

With Dead Space, Fallout 3, GTA 4, Gears of War 2 etc releasing? U ok?

[granite mortar]

peak

[rotund widget]

It was 2009 👌🏻

[celest blaze]

Are you ok? You're choking on some doomer stuff

I see fans pumped from the trailers

The only people hating on them are gamma folk and russians who can't get the game

[granite mortar]

you cant take that genuenly tho
gaymmers are just retards and russians do it out of spite
pretty much 0 actual criticism pointing out issues with the game

[rotund widget]

Go check the sales numbers for Fallout 3 & get back to me with those 2 mils for STALKER 😂

[granite mortar]

lol this one franchise is more popular meaning NOBODY knows the otehr one joy emoji joy emoji

[celest blaze]

who honestly even cares this complaining is stupid and pointless

go apply to GSC and do it better if you feel this way

[rotund widget]

Objectively not true & is a self-deception. Those folks are their own kind of delusion, I'm talking about the audience that's still quite not convinced — you may as well find some of those fellers in #⭐┃обговорення-безспойлерів 😁

[celest blaze]

whos not convinced? i think the game will be fine imo the og trilogy isn't the pinnical of FPS games

it's not a high bar they gotta beat

[celest goblet]

Sales aren't an indication of quality anyway. Otherwise FO3 would have tanked

[rotund widget]

I'm also convinced about the game being quite a journey, given all the info on storyline we have from announcements & breakdowns, but I also want this game to become a hit, which requires a good PR — not an "all over the place" one. The misspoken "25 FPS on SS" was spread quicker & wider than any footage GSC has uploaded I feel like 😅

[celest blaze]

How do you know the 25 fps wasn't russian propaganda ?

Mfs like to hate on anything Ukrainian

[loud gate]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[celest blaze]

I'm just guessing honestly

I have an extremely expensive pc so I won't struggle nor do I care

[rotund widget]

Widely considered one of the best open world FPS games out there, hence why it didn't tank 🤷🏻‍♂️

[loud gate]

Not everything taken as "bad" is ru propaganda

[celest blaze]

True haha

[celest goblet]

It literally came out of the mouth of GSC staff. It was just a misstatement during a live interview

[rotund widget]

I don't think Slava is a russian propagandist, if that's what you mean 😂

[celest blaze]

Fair I'll havent really followed all those stuff

[celest goblet]

And they can all be wrong, though I think if you asked again today a lot of people would admit it isn't actually that good

[dense hatch]

sad but true

[celest blaze]

People shit on fallout 3 so much NV is BEYOND overhyped

[dense hatch]

I love 3 but it has some issues

[celest goblet]

It is. But it's still a lot better than 3

[celest blaze]

3 > NV

[rotund widget]

It's better than the 4th, which is already decent 😄

[dense hatch]

wrong

[celest blaze]

Based Enclave > tribal savages in skirts and football gear

[celest goblet]

STALKER is different and does unique things from all its contemporaries, which yes does make it more niche, but I feel like that is much more interesting with a higher ceiling

[dense hatch]

the legion are not nearly as good of a villain as people pretend they are

at least the enclave were fun the legion are just terrible

[rotund widget]

Btw, when the game is flopping in sales the only point you'll see nowadays on the web is "STOP MAKING SHIT GAMES & THEY'LL SELL!", so yeah, that one seemingly goes different ways 🤷🏻‍♂️

[rotund widget]

Nope

[celest goblet]

Well lots of bad games continue to sell well and good games sometimes sell poorly. It has always been this way and always will be.

Not that there is no relationship between the two at all, but being good or bad is not a guarantee of how well it will perform commercially

[celest blaze]

Fr honestly

[celest blaze]

Every sports and and call of duty game

[dense hatch]

too bad, wrong

[celest blaze]

Mfs dropping nearly 100 dollars every year for the same 2K experience

Fifa aswell

Sales doesn't equal quality

[rotund widget]

But also lots of good games continue to sell good, & both Stalker and FO3 were good games which sold drastically different precisely because of the market coverage & overall dev being known or not, which was my initial point. Bethesda presenting STALKER in 2008 would make 10 times the cash GSC have made, that's the point — GSC are barely known devs.

[celest blaze]

They are known devs what

I feel like I'm in the gamma server rn lol

[rotund widget]

No u

[celest goblet]

Definitely not as well known out here in the west at least. Though I think as the cult status of the original games has grown people have become more aware of them, even if they may not know GSC by name

[celest blaze]

^

The east exists aswell

[somber hawk]

the stalker series in poland afaik were super popular when they came out

[worthy lagoon]

Literally sold a lot in Europe

America is not the entire world

[celest blaze]

People sleep on the east so much lol

[worthy lagoon]

[worthy lagoon]

It was famous in Italy as well

[granite mortar]

its the entire New World 🥁

[celest blaze]

Based af

[rotund widget]

You know the difference between dozens of millions of consumers across the world & a couple mils on a separate market? That difference is what makes someone famous and others barely heard of. Stop pretending, GSC was nowhere near as known as it is rn after LOZ was issued on consoles (and GAMMArots breached the wall into the mil-sim fanbase to the game's detriment).

[worthy lagoon]

Game's detriment?

What

[celest blaze]

What even is your point right now

If me a console user back in 09 and 2010 knew of stalker I'd say it's well known

[rotund widget]

Well, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic & Baltic countries are a huge part of that European share. STALKER was an unknown territory for the wide audience up until 2018-19 pretty much, and there were some conditions that negatively influenced its popularity in 00s

[granite mortar]

RAAAAHHHH
Czech Republic mentioned

[rotund widget]

Yeah, that one thingy when the story-driven immersive Sci-Fi FPS is getting called "post-apocalyptic survival horror" as if we're talking about Dead Space.

[rotund widget]

That's a huge measure scale indeed 😂

[celest blaze]

The yapping is off the charts today

[rotund widget]

[Officially GAMMA] lvls, I'd say 😏

[celest blaze]

You realize only mods can change names in this server right ? That remark isn't as impactful as you think it is

[rotund widget]

Weird, I thought some of your statements perfectly encapsulate the essence of the nickname given

[celest blaze]

I could say the same for you

[rotund widget]

You may as well do it, it won't convince me the game widely referred to as "SLAVJANK" even nowadays was widely known & popular back in the day along with its devs 😁

[celest blaze]

Why does that even matter though

It's 2024 not 2000's

[hazy helm]

yhea, its even more, gamma boy

[celest blaze]

I don't even have gamma on my pc

[hazy helm]

I know you have a second PC which you use to cheat

🫵

Im onto you

[celest blaze]

You will never catch me in the act

I am the one who groks

I had get rid of gamma cuz I installed a 500+ gig skyrim mod pack needed the room

[fluid crescent]

nice

[celest blaze]

If you like modded skyrim I highly recommend lorerim It's worth the space imo

[worn oar]

They will show all they mentioned soon enough. My point is that they want to show you the extent of alife, something that is final. Just wait, man. We all waited for quite some time and few more weeks is not much to ask.

[celest blaze]

Fr

[rotund widget]

2024-audience doesn't give a F about the game the prequels of which they didn't even know existed in 00s 🤷🏻‍♂️ On the other hand 2024-audience that's familiar with the trilogy still calls it "SLAVJANK" like it was called back in 00s, why? Cuz it's a series created by an indie studio & all the jazz that comes with this fact. S2 is the first AAA-project of this studio ever, made 15 years later after the original trilogy by the team that barely has any of the OG devs left in it — what's to argue here? "A well-known studio" is about to add its first AAA-product to the catalogue almost 30 years after company's initial foundation & a decade after its reassembly from literal ruins — does allat sound like a successful well-established gamedev mastodon to you? GSC & STALKER are niche, S2 aims to put the company and their products on the world map and make em truly well-known, which is again — emphasised by GSC themselves in their recent documentaries. That's what the matter is.

[celest blaze]

Actually that's not really correct cuz I know alot of anomaly players recently got the trilogy due to trying out anomaly aswell as console players finally have a chance to play it

And it's almost 20 years call of pripyat came out in 09

This really sounds like a hipster tier argument

[worn oar]

Well, the only thing I can say is that you gotta think from a different perspective. The team wants to improve things before showcasing them in order to give the best they can provide. That is how things must be. I myself wouldn't showcase an addon or mod without picking its strengths and highlight them. It's almost the same situation here. They will mostly show randomness of alife, but also want to provide some specific features that show the extent of how the whole ai system works. They know best how to do their jobs, so sit tight and let them cook. They have proven themselves by now, and all they need now is time, our trust and our support.

[dire dagger]

I mean to be fair it’s kinda hard to gauge exactly how many people are interested

But time will tell

[rotund widget]

Are you implying Anomaly is an AAA-project that has something to do with GSC or what is this even about?

Yes, the CoP was 2009, but the studio closed couple years later (due to an astonishing success & worldwide recognition, I imagine) & was re-established in 2014 (10 years ago) — three years later the preproduction for S2 was started by the new team.

[hazy helm]

back then GSC was a pretty well known Double A studio in the Eastern Europe Secotr with a collection of hits in their belt

they were not muh small indies

[celest blaze]

No I'm implying people got inspired to play the trilogy after trying it

This dude is like weirdly gatekeeping knowledge of the company? Idk I don't even know what the point of this is

If you want small indi company people who made project zomboid those people are pretty unknown

Do you know they even made any other games ?

[rotund widget]

And what does it have to do with what I've brought up? GSC didn't work on Anomaly nor Anomaly is truly representative of a STALKER experience, what sense does that make?

[celest blaze]

I'm just saying ALOT of people like the trilogy in the current year bro lol

Stalker isn't some niche hidden thing you rarely hear of

People would be talking about their stalker trilogy experiences in elderscrolls servers lol

[dire dagger]

Stalker has sold multiple millions of copies

[celest blaze]

The trilogy still holds up greatly today

[hazy helm]

not as much ppl turn from Anomaly to Stalker, you could say only those that are unsatisfied with Anomaly do
Anomaly isnt a very good way to advertise but its not supposed to be that anyway

naturally, what brings most ppl into the community are GSC's efforts to push S2 out there and the console releases

[celest blaze]

^

[dire dagger]

there is the point though

[rotund widget]

Those were pretty much local hits, that's the point. I'm failing to understand why everyone tries to convince me GSC are worldwide phenomenon when the team itself unequivocally states "we hope this game will put Ukraine & STALKER on the world map of videogaming", which undoubtedly means it's yet to truly get there 🤷🏻‍♂️

[dire dagger]

That the gamma discord has like 5 times as many people in it as this server lol

[hazy helm]

besides, ppl seem to thing GSC was this small hurt animal, going against juggernauts, back in 2007, maybe in the western market, but in europe and the eastern maker they were hallmarks with the games they put out

[celest blaze]

You have to be a troll at this point

[dire dagger]

He’s just a skeptic

[hazy helm]

there are layers to being famous, smth can be known and unknown at the same time depending on region and internet niche, Stalker is really well known, its a cultural phenomenon, what GSC hopes is that they are able to imprint the phenomenon in the west, just bc it was only a phenomenon in the east with leakings to the west doesnt make the project somehow unknown

[dire dagger]

Which is fair

[indigo marsh]

I mean the only place to officially get gamma is the gamma server

[celest blaze]

Bros gagging hard on skepticism

[dire dagger]

Oh fr?

[celest blaze]

Yes

[dire dagger]

Well I guess that makes sense

[celest blaze]

Most people just grab gamma and never speak there

[hazy helm]

its like saying that only America plays American Football and cares about it so American Football is a niche pass time

[indigo marsh]

Yeah that's what I have heard. My PC can't run gamma so I haven't tried to install it. I have played anomaly tho.

[celest blaze]

Before they got the server space increase they were about to do a mass cull of inactive accounts

[rotund widget]

No, you guys just seem to confuse me saying "barely known devs that are nonames in comparison to the big leagues" with "devs that haven't done shiet" 😁

[hazy helm]

yhea, which is really funny

no you just conflate what being known means from region to region

you seem to have really bad tunnel vision

[celest blaze]

??? Bro stalkers been common game knowledge for 20+ years lol

[dire dagger]

I mean a lot of stalker game reviews in more recent history have blown up which I’m sure brought tons of new players in

Like the one from our king sseth

https://youtu.be/SjugsyOKNvg?feature=shared

6.4 million views

[hazy helm]

Avalnche Review on the series REALLY sucked

which was funny

[dire dagger]

I’d say if nothing else a fairly large number of people are aware of stalker

[celest blaze]

Could always bust out the Google trends and wayback portal to show trends and show the cultural awareness of stalker since the Early 2000s

If you feel like doing that kinda work

[hazy helm]

Stalker was International, just not, global

and even to global games fame, there are layers beetween unknown to truly popular

[dire dagger]

Do it I’ll repost the screenshot

[celest blaze]

I would but I gotta hit gym soon

That's honestly alot of work haha

[granite mortar]

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=stalker&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3
its not what you all wanted but we can see the usage of the word skyrocket when OL was announced

and when the film released of course

[dire dagger]

That’s bad data

[granite mortar]

yes
I know :3

[dire dagger]

You gotta put it as S.t.a.l.k.e.r

[granite mortar]

cant
it wont register as valid word

[dire dagger]

Bruh

[rotund widget]

It's a cultural phenomenon in the East — the West have only started to become truly familiar with it after LOTZ release, and you need both parts to call something "WIDELY known". Again, my point was not "STALKER is unknown to everybody" — my point is "STALKER is an unknown territory for the WIDE audience", those are different things. STALKER & GSC Game World having few janky products on their catalogue & being known to few millions of fans ofc puts it somewhere, but it ain't a true recognition that could've saved the studio from getting closed for example, which makes it niche indeed. It's a much bigger niche than a Seadogs/Age of Pirates series for example, sure — but it still is niche compared to Fallout, CoD, GTA, you name it. Which is why devs are saying "we hope this game will put us on the map" — to achieve that type of recognition, enter sorta pop-culture territory like Fallout did. What's not to understand, it's literally in the interviews. The fact the studio is known to a particular fanbase doesn't mean it's known on a world market, same as the studio not being widely known and its products not being massively popular doesn't mean "they've done nothing" or "they're totally unknown" — it means they're just niche, which is what I'm saying. And to breach the wall into worldwide recognition & leave the niche territory you gotta do marketing properly to reach that wide audience of new players you're aiming at — something a Scar reveal won't help much, which is what I said. That's just how things are prior to S2 release, there's nothing to dispute, unless some fans project their love for the franchise on the world market.

[granite mortar]

but I got this
and its peak
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=oblivion+lost&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3

oblivion was lost the same year Napoleon kissed Russian Tsar on a ship

[hazy helm]

*GSC wa not closed due to a lack of money or support, it was closed due to personal reasons, by Sergei Grigorovych

[indigo marsh]

Can't believe some of the founding fathers might have played oblivion lost

[celest blaze]

Truly peak men

The west was built off oblivion lost

[indigo marsh]

But seeing as the searching of OL has decreased the west has fallen

[sand fiber]

the Average Western Gamer™ only ever played GTA, CoD and Halo, i've seen people praising TLOU as a "hidden gem that got me into story gaming!!!" for god's sake, i don't see much use comparing anything to those "Big Leagues"

[rotund widget]

And then was reopened & eventually sold to a Ukrainian monopolist Maksym Krippa, the owner of GGBET & NaVi. Money wasn't the problem — but we sell the company to an oligarch. Doesn't add up much, does it?

[granite mortar]

behold
a shit post
#🤨┃stalker_memes message

[small copper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/920158998114742312/964746793575383111/lmao_nice.gif?=

[celest blaze]

Console gamers *

[hazy helm]

so, you also know that Krippa and Sergei are friends of many years, and that they have done many cooperative ventures together, also, Krippa is not an oligarch, that is just straight up false

[celest blaze]

See this guy is a troll

[granite mortar]

giga griga is so based for closing down a profitable studio because he couldnt stand any of his employees

[dire dagger]

Tbh I don’t think he’s trolling

And that’s fine

He can have doubts

I had massive doubts till very recently

[rotund widget]

But lads at GSC hope to join the Big Leagues and stating such in interviews & documentaries, go figure 🤷🏻‍♂️ I want em to join those leagues too, and "joining" means something has to be done as they're not there just yet. Current PR works for the goal at about 50/50 rate so far, not great not terrible, one may say 😁

[sand fiber]

you confuse getting more audience with getting ALL audience

[dire dagger]

You can’t appeal to all audiences

It’s now you make games no one wants to play

[hazy helm]

they have already worked
they are talked about in normal gaming circles, like I said, there are layers to popularity, global even more so, you can have a game that is known gloablly but is still rather unknown by the general zeitgeist, Fallout for example, that was well known, in DEDICATED GAMING CIRCLES before the TV SHOW, only the TV show has propelsed it into the popular zeitgeist, the GSC's partnership with Microsoft and their advertising efforts have pushed the series to being in the startes of the popular gaming circle

[celest blaze]

Fr a game for everyone is a game for no one

[indigo marsh]

Minecraft

[rotund widget]

He's now owning the biggest Ukrainian gamedev & the biggest Ukrainian eSports club on top of betting companies that have links to Russian oligarchs + recently acquired one of Ukraine's biggest hotels in the centre of Kyiv — I see what's happening and calling it for what it is, and given the history of our Ukrainian monopolists it all doesn't smell right, mate. Hopefully I'm wrong in this occasion, but so far signs ain't great.

[dire dagger]

I mean if you ever watch the Xbox presentation live people are chanting for stalker constantly

[sand fiber]

did you know GSC planned to do a TV series before closing btw, there's even a pilot online :3

[celest blaze]

Sus comment

[sand fiber]

grigorovich didn't like it at all though

[indigo marsh]

Actually?

What is it called? And what is it about?

[celest goblet]

I think that the audience has also changed since the original games and there is a broader audience for a game like STALKER now. Not just because this new game looks more polished, but because tastes have evolved

[dire dagger]

Bruh

[indigo marsh]

Replied to wrong message

[dire dagger]

Minecraft is a rare exception

[granite mortar]

what did he even like?

[dire dagger]

I feel this doesn’t really effect if the game is good though

Sure maybe it’s bad

Probably is

But it doesn’t really effect if the game is good or bad

[celest blaze]

Sometimes buisness is buisness

[sand fiber]

okay i just remembered this so something @rotund widget has to understand about stalker back then is that it literally DID aim for da big leagues, a PSP game, planned console releases, TV series, merchandise, product-placements, partnerships, a goddamn browser MMORPG

[dire dagger]

Club penguin stalker

[sand fiber]

da capital subsumes all :3

[rotund widget]

Nope, "getting more audience" in this case is not "we have over 50 mils of people playing our game & wanna add couple more" type of situation, it's clearly what devs say it is: putting Ukraine & STALKER on the global map of videogaming.

[sand fiber]

yes, again, you're confusing the global map of videogaming with being one of THE videogames

the closest i can see GSC ever getting to is likeeee, Cyberpunk, and even that's a stretch

[celest blaze]

Who honestly even cares

We've going at this for like an hour+ lol

Go workout, go clean, do something

[sand fiber]

wasn't the argument like that stalker's unknown in the west

[celest blaze]

Yes

[sand fiber]

and like, no not really, but at the same time yeah kinda it was, but it all really depends on what you're comparing to

[celest blaze]

I knew of stalker in the early 2000s and I was a Canadian console player it was always known

[celest goblet]

It was never a smash hit here but like, if you played shooters and were on steam in 2007 you probably at least saw it on the store page

[rotund widget]

This was brought up to the point about finances seemingly being alright for GSC tho they opted to sell the whole company to a shady monopolist, not the game itself being good or not 🤷🏻‍♂️ Hopefully the budgets they were able to get from someone owning betting companies & one of the most successful eSports orgs of the past few years helped S2's development immensely, that's a positive I guess

[sand fiber]

likeeeee can't deny that Anomaly brought the mainstream attention, but at the same people like, knew or at least heard that it was a videogame from somewhere

[celest blaze]

It may not be a house hold name like fortnite and ninja but people knew of it the internet existed

The west can tell what the east is doing btw@rotund widget

[sand fiber]

i mean Grigorovich literally doesn't care, he probably just wanted the money or didn't want to fund it himself

[worthy lagoon]

GSC is not owned by Microsoft and S2 IP is owned by GSC

[dire dagger]

I feel like any possible negative isn’t really important

[worthy lagoon]

Oh wait it's about something else ig

[rotund widget]

If they were aiming for the big leagues back then, 15 years ago, went on to close the studio and re-emerged with the exact same goal of making the big leagues with a new product now — what does it tell us?

[sand fiber]

and really if you're citing Anomaly as the bringer of attention you should prolly start with Lost Alpha and Call of Chernobyl i thiiiiinkkkk

[dire dagger]

If they have been able to delay this long to continue development

Clearly the money is still there

[rotund widget]

Nobody said anything about Microsoft, you're not following the discussion closely.

[celest blaze]

It tells me you should touch grass and get some fresh air

To much yapping about pointless shit

[sand fiber]

ufhhhh i think this is just a pointless discussion now, i don't really care what the corporate fuсks want rn, i just know that the game was known in the west back in 2007

also @hazy helm GIVE ME MY NAME BACK AT OOOONCEEEE

[worthy lagoon]

I just joined

[hazy helm]

there

[sand fiber]

YOU FUСK

[rotund widget]

Depends, I'm personally not thrilled by the perspective of a monopolist linked with Russia owning the Ukrainian game company that's produced/ing the franchise loved by many, but it remains to be seen if anything rly goes sideways.

[sand fiber]

can i get like an [Officially Grok] status instead

[sand fiber]

da capital subsumes all :3

[granite mortar]

Hello :3
I would like to sincerely ask you all to shut the fuсk up :3

[rotund widget]

It tells us they kinda didn't manage to make it last time & hope to do so this time, thank me not 👌🏻

[dire dagger]

If the product is good people won’t care about any shady dealings that happened to make it possible

[sand fiber]

kinda depends but mostly yes

[celest blaze]

People still buy coca cola products even though they were accused of hiring death squads to kill employees who were trying unionize in a bottling plant lol in south America

[dire dagger]

It’s the concept of if I’m getting payed 150k dollars but the company signing my checks is also blowing people up in a 3rd world country

There signing my checks so

[sand fiber]

are you a raytheon employee

[dire dagger]

No

It’s just an example

I did try and get a job at Raytheon though haha

[rotund widget]

Which is a shame, it's pretty much equal to sports washing some people do care about. A whole different topic tho that's offtop ofc

[dire dagger]

Raytheon was not impressed by my work experience sadly

[dire dagger]

I mean sure

Like

A great example is red dead redemption

The people who made it were massively over worked

Barely got to see there families for ages

But when the game came out it was a massive hit

Even though people suffered to make it

[rotund widget]

I sincerely wish that was the case.

[celest blaze]

What

[dire dagger]

I mean the east is pretty neat they got those indestructible glasses

Uberfest drinking glasses

[naive moth]

yumy

[grim palm]

[dire dagger]

Plastic

[naive moth]

no no

yumy more radiation for me

[dense hatch]

cossacks but you don't drink the entire bottle on a single sip

[silk sparrow]

2 months left, no delays this time am i right?

[lean quiver]

I would say 20% delay chance, 80% it releases

[silk sparrow]

can you show the math on these percentages?

im pretty sure game is done. they just working on optimization

so mid-tier pc wont run on 40fps

i got 45fps on CoP few days ago

[dire dagger]

Mini spec is 1060 6gb

Which is probably for 720p low

[silk sparrow]

640x480 CRT

i hope to get above 100fps

[dire dagger]

If you got less than 4 gig of vram game probably won’t even open

Also might require avx

So if your cpu isn’t newer than a 2nd gen intel cpu you may be out of luck

Most modern titles seem to require it now

[silk sparrow]

i have avx, avx2, avx-vnni

[dire dagger]

Won’t have the issue then

At least with that

[silk sparrow]

if i wont be able to run it, most of you wont be able to run it

[dire dagger]

You do understand that most gpus made even semi recently have 6 gig of vram

[silk sparrow]

yea, why you say this to me?

[dire dagger]

Because if your video card got 6 gig of vram

[silk sparrow]

i have 24gb

[dire dagger]

It will run the game

[silk sparrow]

and still got 45fps on CoP

[dire dagger]

Huh?

[silk sparrow]

i think its DX11 setting bug

[dire dagger]

Probably

[silk sparrow]

i put back to DX10 and 240fps

[dire dagger]

Oh

Yah that’s it then

[silk sparrow]

on everything max i should get around 100fps

[dire dagger]

You were making it sound like you had poverty rig lmao

[silk sparrow]

its something with old stalkers and DX11, they just dont work

[dire dagger]

If you tweak some settings in Nvidia control panel for dx10

You can get better fps

Dx10 is kinda bugged on modern nvidia cards

[silk sparrow]

yea, i finished all of the stalkers. im just in waiting mode for new one. i assume we wont have benchmark tool to check it

[dire dagger]

I mean

[untold karma]

Hello

[dire dagger]

Just download msi afterburner

Riva tuner is awesome

[silk sparrow]

nvidia has this

advanced performance

[dark sedge]

completed stalker clear sky with starter gear only

[silk sparrow]

without repairs and upgrades?

[dire dagger]

Riva tuner is way better

[regal sapphire]

it do be like that

[dark sedge]

repairs and upgrades yes

[static compass]

So can we get nothing else matters on the in game radio? 👀

[pearl jacinth]

are y'all gonna be screaming OW irl when u get hit in stalker 2?

[finite dragon]

My favorite thing is when I'm tasked to eliminate someone and I get to the location only for the mission to update and it turns out that they died

[lean quiver]

not really math, just based on what has happened; marketing campaign is in full effect and they even added another store but there's still the fact that xbox preorders are not available and system requirements haven't been updated plus GSC history of delays

Also who releases games on wednesday lol

[silk sparrow]

devs who would be ready to hotfix stuff if needed during workdays instead of weekends

[finite dragon]

Wait when is the game releasing

[pearl jacinth]

20th of november

[finite dragon]

Like December?

OH

[hazy helm]

he literally said nov

[finite dragon]

I know I typed November and then I couldn't type for 10 seconds

[hazy helm]

weak

I am

unbound

[frosty summit]

Ultimate version in my country let's gooo 😭😭😭

[hazy helm]

by such

frivolous

chains

[finite dragon]

Hello? Hello

[rocky trellis]

Hi? Hi

[rugged void]

freedom truest faction fr fr

[indigo marsh]

I am bound by those chains in the modifications channel

[rocky trellis]

Green bandits cough cough

[rugged void]

fake military Cough Cough

[finite dragon]

I've been having a blast with call of Chernobyl

I must be the only person in the world that actually plays it

[rocky trellis]

Liked it too. The start is always interesting since getting money is a bit hard and need to buy a lot of stuff to get properly started

I usually get a shotgun ASAP and look for mutant elimination missions

[granite mortar]

Greetings fellow kot fans

[silk sparrow]

CoC is a mod?

[rocky trellis]

Yea, it's a big CoC

[hazy helm]

you really arent no

[indigo marsh]

Hello

[silk sparrow]

CoCa

[rugged void]

idk but the words youre saying sound really strange

if ykwim

[rocky trellis]

[rugged void]

[dense hatch]

only strange if you're strange

[granite mortar]

damn
people dont even appreciate Sams CoC smh

[indigo marsh]

There are a bunch of people playing CoC

[finite dragon]

Really? Nobody ever talks about it, I've only seen a few videos on it which is disappointing because I like it more than anomaly

I like vanilla stalker

[granite mortar]

it was big back in the day

[dense hatch]

that's probably because anomaly kinda took over a lot of the scene

[granite mortar]

2015-2017 it was really huge
but as it got forked, most of the freeplayers moved on
And since the story mods built on CoC were mostly standalone and never particularly great, it didnt get attention from story mod players either

[dense hatch]

[rocky trellis]

The classic you do it first, then somebody does it worse but still gets all the attention

[indigo marsh]

CoC IWP released

[granite mortar]

yeah
god I cant think of popular mod other than CoC that is actually good

[indigo marsh]

Goldsphere is popular

[granite mortar]

ehhh
not really

[indigo marsh]

But it is not good

[rocky trellis]

Anyone think pistols would finally have some real use since they have own 3rd slot?

[granite mortar]

depends
probably good choice against lower tier mutants, or to execute downed enemies

[rocky trellis]

one thing I thougt is that maybe if you can find yourself a good silenced pistol it could be a viable situationally, option for stealth

[indigo marsh]

But more seriously there has to be some good popular mods

[rocky trellis]

but depends on how stealth is done this time...

or the lack of it

[indigo marsh]

I mean like there is OGSR

The pre ga one

[granite mortar]

OGSR is far from the big thing it used to be

[indigo marsh]

It is still pretty big tho

[granite mortar]

ehh

[indigo marsh]

Like decently big

[celest goblet]

OGSR Legacy is pretty good

[sly mural]

is there a multiplayer mode coming?

[loud gate]

Post-Release.

[sly mural]

coop for story or solo

[loud gate]

No co-op.

[sand fiber]

yes, deathmatch

[granite mortar]

cant wait to beat Yuri in deathmatch (he cant run S2 so I automatically win)

[worn oar]

The usual multiplayer style

[dire dagger]

No multiplayer for the story

[rocky trellis]

Modders: Hold my vokda

[dire dagger]

Yah probably will happen on pc after a year or so

[rocky trellis]

Hopefully it turns out to be good quality when it eventually inevitably happens

bugs are fine, but being borderline unplayable is far from ideal

[dire dagger]

With this many delays it better be damn near spotless haha

[granite mortar]

oh come on guys
when did GSC game release in a bad state?

[indigo marsh]

They released CoP

[worn oar]

Keep dreaming

[rocky trellis]

I still remember there were people saying there will not be a multiplayer mod for hogwarts legacy for many years... one popped up very soon after release. Not saying it was in good condition but did kind of work from what I recall

[granite mortar]

it only took 17 years to get multiplayer mod for SoC
With how big HoC is supposed to be...
Id say 25 years and maybe, just maybe we will see a beta

[rocky trellis]

pretty sure that has more to do with lack of interest to really make a multiplayer mod

[rocky trellis]

But multiplayer games been far more popular these days, with everything going live service garbage 😂

[sand fiber]

true

[rocky trellis]

Although Stalker is best experienced solo, I think playing with a small team of 2-4 could be a lot of fun as well, as long as the amount of enemies and difficulty is scaled to that properly. Kind of like arma but in the zone vs. the zone

would get a good laugh about a poor bastard getting ambushed by a chimera

[sand fiber]

i hoped XRMPE coop campaigns would be that but uh

they suck sooooo hard

[rocky trellis]

unfortunate

[worn oar]

Wack

[dire nimbus]

me installing 3 diffrent modpacks and all crash after 45minutes of playing💀

[broken latch]

Shouldn't of installed all 3 at the same time

[granite mortar]

just install good mods
shrimple as

[broken latch]

[dire nimbus]

nah i installed emp yesterday

and today i installed expediton and Dark Signal

[hazy helm]

EMP? that shit fries Eletronics]