⭐┃nospoilers_general

[sand fiber]

it will be wooooorm foooood

[azure dock]

https://x.com/Xbox/status/1800244558720282640

[hazy helm]

I aint going to subscribe to your fan cannon man

[granite mortar]

Wrong sticker

[nova wedge]

Man I was trying to think of what the hell you meant

[hazy helm]

Xbox stated that more info about Stalker 2 would be shown shortly after, that says something
Im not saying it will be there without a shadow of a doubt, but it does mean something

[finite dragon]

What instead of being called the C consciousness it was the freak consciousness and instead of making the zone it made hot sweaty love?

[nova wedge]

Frowned

[sand fiber]

what if all of freedom were furries and uh and uh the clear sky were trans girls due to uhghhhhhhhhhhhh the emissions

[hazy helm]

pukeowned

[finite dragon]

What if instead of shooting bullets you shot huge loads

[granite mortar]

We already got Krezzin Kounciousness (K-Kon for short)
If thats not freaky
I dunno what is

[sand fiber]

that's just duty

[finite dragon]

Tbh

Muscly men in a compound beating monsters

[earnest bear]

Indeed that's why it's kind of weird that Freedom use Nato Weapons

About stalkers and monolith using Nato Weapons

what about those 2 using ex freedom weapons from people who died turned into zombies or monolith directly?

[sand fiber]

messer is a trans man btw

[hazy helm]

man it really is not that deep

you put more thought than the devs did

[finite dragon]

Its weird anyone uses them if that isnt the case. How does military weapons get stolen from factories in the west, smuggled into the Ukraine, THEN into the most dangerous place in europe

[finite dragon]

Didnt know that existed in 2007

[sand fiber]

it was confirmed by prokhorov!

[sand fiber]

wdym

[nova wedge]

All trans people were borned in 2008, obviously

[sand fiber]

me waiting in line for the release of the Gay in 2013

[hazy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-cat-sad-tired-tired-cat-gif-17746002225044403443

may god give me strenght to wrangle all these autists

[sand fiber]

you're one of us vasim :3

[nova wedge]

To wrangle the autists you must become the autist

[finite dragon]

What if im freaky like that?

[naive fog]

How do you join?

[covert slate]

friendly fire will not be tolerated

[nova wedge]

One of us has to bite you so you get infected

[naive fog]

Already everyone says I'm autistic and I should take a test

[gaunt burrow]

Because Freedom traders have their own supplies: "Well, I have my suppliers, but I don't share that info with anyone. I got enough problems as it is: my kindness will be the end of me. I'm good to people, polite to my clients, and the selection of goods in my shop is better than in a supermarket. On top of that, the prices are real low, like a winter sale in May, so I'm a popular trader in the Zone. Not with everyone though. The Asubers brothers from the black market added me to their little black list 'cause I'm a competitor. You know the reward they put on my head? You could vacation for a year with a new girl every night on that much cash! A couple of fellas around here liked the Asubers' offer...and the vultures liked the taste of their flesh too. The boys around here keep me safe, and I'm no wimp either." - Ashot

[naive fog]

Am I forced to watch skibidi toilet or can I be a cool autismo

[granite mortar]

Okay
The test is simple
You need to tell us just one thing
Have you heard about the book Yhor?

[finite dragon]

Thats brainrot

[naive fog]

Na

[finite dragon]

Similar but different

[nova wedge]

Skibidi toiket is cool wdym

[naive fog]

Recently I've just been reading stalker and metro books

[nova wedge]

Eh, not really worth it unless you need accommodations for school really

[granite mortar]

Good
You didnt say "what is Yhor" effectively ruining the joke
You are true autist and proud member of our little club now

[finite dragon]

What if Stalker took place in ohio and instead of anomalies it was skibidi toilets and aidin ross?

[naive fog]

Yay

[finite dragon]

New mod idea

[gaunt burrow]

Thought you scientists were supposed to be smart

Looks like they're recruiting everyone now

[granite mortar]

What if we gave the car park Bandits a Snork AI?

[nova wedge]

I can't share the skibidi Putin image here so you all, just imagine it really hard

[finite dragon]

When I want to be

[naive fog]

Is that the number 1 thing you say when encountering ecologists?

[gaunt burrow]

Yes

[naive fog]

Ye looks like it

[granite mortar]

You say this
After meeting Kruglov?
And this guy is the one who makes you say it?

[finite dragon]

Gunsmithing and deer stalking? Yes. Anything else? No

[gaunt burrow]

Kruglov doesn't strikes me as a very smart man when he screams URAAAAA and hold me 7 phrases

[naive fog]

He's very smart

[granite mortar]

Okay thats a good point

[naive fog]

Kruglov top ten stalkers in zone

[nova wedge]

Some of the smartest people in a lab have no common sense

[finite dragon]

Hello! Hello!

[granite mortar]

Anyways
Gn boios
Dont let Grok gammify your S2

[gaunt burrow]

This too

[naive fog]

Gn

[nova wedge]

G

[finite dragon]

And the other guy never moves out the way

[gaunt burrow]

Sakharov saying hello hello every few seconds

Even if you'll be outside the bunker lol

[nova wedge]

Dementia or brain scorcher. Call it

[finite dragon]

And they sakharov doesnt walk over and you have to walk back in

[naive fog]

In my opinion the guy at the entrance to 100 rads bar is worse

[exotic mural]

parkour around entire freedom base fence
walk through extreme radiation and anomalies
run past flaming orb
find stash

pistol

this game bruh

[finite dragon]

Broke his edging streak

[nova wedge]

Wtf is his name, garik or something

[gaunt burrow]

Zhorik

[naive fog]

Ye

[gaunt burrow]

Hes the one telling you "I said come in, don't stand there"

[finite dragon]

The most realistic part is when you get shot, and maybe guns jamming after being used

[naive fog]

Ye

[nova wedge]

Oh yeah garik is the other one I mix them up

[exotic mural]

wrong reply?

[finite dragon]

Get out if here stalker

In the only way in

[gaunt burrow]

Man ngl I always have the urge to blast that guy

[naive fog]

Y'all think they gonna change Streloks name to Ukrainian or nah

[gaunt burrow]

Its not even funny, its just annoying

[naive fog]

I don't think so cause it's classic

[nova wedge]

Maybe they'll show his real name idk

[naive fog]

Ye

[gaunt burrow]

I wouldn't be surprised. But on another hand name Strelok is way too iconic so who knows

[naive fog]

That's what I'm thinking bout

But it would be funny to torture the Americans with pronunciation

[earnest bear]

I wounder what the price in Russia will be in ruble
Probably more expensive than a in-game an94

If it even comes out

[finite dragon]

They should change it to Street Lock and then when he walks down a street he gets stuck

Would be better than doing the catacombs level in Clear Sky

[nova wedge]

They won't even try, trust me

[gaunt burrow]

That would be nice ngl

[exotic mural]

idk if this is an unpopular opinion but im having a lot more fun in CS than i did playing SOC

[finite dragon]

Its got better QOL and more stuff to do apart from the main story

[naive fog]

I think keeping it as just 'Shooter' is better

[exotic mural]

i really like the artifact scanner

[naive fog]

It is imo

[nova wedge]

With full confidence I have been called JAH-ro more times than pronounced correctly

[gaunt burrow]

Real

[exotic mural]

finding an artifact in SOC was just like "oh, look. cool" but in CS it's like a rewarding little hunt

[gaunt burrow]

Clear Sky my beloved

[naive fog]

Except the CNPP, SoC CNPP is peak

[sand fiber]

wasn't it something something Strilet'skiy in the desdocks?

[exotic mural]

i feel like finding artifacts in SOC was just sort of finding clumps of them in tunnels and shit

[naive fog]

But otherwise CS is peak

[sand fiber]

never made it to canon though

[naive fog]

Ye

[exotic mural]

the one issue i have with both games is that EVERY LOOT CONTAINER IS ALWAYS EMPTY

[naive fog]

I'm actually replaying CS rn

[exotic mural]

"oh cool a safe in the back of this warehouse"

nothing

"oh cool, a box hidden in an attic"

nothing

random ass toolbox on the side of a tunnel?

400 bullets and 8 guns

[nova wedge]

Sounds about right

[finite dragon]

You need to get the stash thingy from dead people

[gaunt burrow]

I always thought that it's weird that detectors are available in Clear Sky, events of which happened earlier than events of Shadow of Chernobyl

[earnest bear]

Doas soc have an artifact Scanner?

[sand fiber]

you either don't have the stashes or the game's bugged

[gaunt burrow]

Then detectors will be available again after SoC, in CoP

[finite dragon]

Luck

[exotic mural]

i also really like how everything isnt super heavy like in SOC. SOC felt like i could carry 3 medkits and a drink, CS has me walking around with superloot

[sand fiber]

because they were retconned in

[exotic mural]

not talking about stashes, the crates inside of POIs

[finite dragon]

I dont think you get as much stuff in CS

[exotic mural]

building on the right of old farmstead in valley has a safe sunken into the ground with nothing in it

[sand fiber]

but detectors were a buildo concept so i can't complain much

[exotic mural]

i think you get a lot more things in CS?

[finite dragon]

You could put your own stuff in there?

[exotic mural]

yeah but like, why would i want to

[finite dragon]

I meant more like first aid kits and bandages

[gaunt burrow]

Detectors are mentioned even in some SoC's PDA entries

[nimble cipher]

b18c5 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[finite dragon]

[exotic mural]

@nimble cipher count your days.

[gaunt burrow]

So it can still be considered as SoC's canon

[exotic mural]

actually, loading soc rn to shoot wolf.

[gaunt burrow]

Even if game doesn't actually have detectors

[earnest bear]

83 days yay

[sand fiber]

ehhh more like an inconsistency, the canon always varies game to game

[exotic mural]

i still prefer the way strelok uses his knife tho

[nova wedge]

No strelok just has the inhuman ability to see artifacts

[exotic mural]

Stalker 2 confirmed retconning in the Mosin Nagant (my beloved)

[sand fiber]

his mother was an artifact and taught him how

[exotic mural]

when the game drops should i make a cod mw style montage of the mosin

i think that would be very funny

[nova wedge]

The idle animation is cool

[earnest bear]

Will that be in the game ?

[exotic mural]

got confirmed earlier

jumping for joy irl at the thought of 7.62x54mmR going into everyone's heads :DDDD

i cant believe they actually exploded a nuclear reactor as a stalker reference irl

[gaunt burrow]

Wolf screw you

"don't send the same message over and over again! 😡" what same message?... i was sending completely different message

[nova wedge]

Was that you who pinged me

[earnest bear]

Nice

Something's I am missing in the post apocalyptic games
I feel like there should be way more heavy rifles instead of all the full auto stuff

Biggest offender is Fallout 4 with its minigun with a caliber nobody uses
Feel like a minigun is the first thing going out of fashion wen the ammo industry shuts down or the logistics are cramped

[gaunt burrow]

Yes but Wolf auto deleted my comment for absolutely moronic reason that isn't even true

[nova wedge]

I wish it'd send you the message or something it's annoying when you type out something long and swear out of habit and then the whole thing gets deleted

[gaunt burrow]

Hold on I can send it in your DMs

[hidden stratus]

Are we all part of the hive mind yet?

[exotic mural]

whats the big wall anomaly that gives you supercancer when you walk into it called

one located directly west of freedom base in CS

[gaunt burrow]

Vortex I believe

[sand fiber]

in f4 it doesn't make much sense but even in F1 people already got ammo production working

[exotic mural]

Yeah, canonically by the time Fo4 takes place, there are already modern cities again

||and then one of them gets flattened in the tv show, lol||

[sand fiber]

well, on the west coast

[exotic mural]

West Coast fallout is realistically how a situation would go, East Coast fallout is just like tribal warfare basically

[sand fiber]

east coast is still 10 years after-war favellas

[exotic mural]

i like the games and all but 200 years after the apocalypse, the USA would've already been rebuilt a lot

im talking like, working internet

The Divide was an incredibly technologically advanced city, probably moreso than the NCR

and then something happened idk i have amnesia i got shot in the head bear bull bear bull

[earnest bear]

Ah so the dude with the bank card would be legit

[exotic mural]

no, shoot him in the head

any knowledgable person would understand that the last thing you want to do after a great reset is to re-establish the federal reserve 🙏

[sand fiber]

was it? the only thing i remember about lonesome road is how uhhhh nuclear bombs.

[exotic mural]

im not trying to say that banks are evil or anything, but banks are very much evil

[exotic mural]

LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS ☢️ SHADOW COURIER MONEY GANG 🤑 WE LOVE NUKING CITIES 💥

#en_stalker (fallout general)

[gaunt burrow]

I don't know much about Fallout. All I know is that Frank Horrigan is the goat who only lost due to MC having plot armor

[sand fiber]

PLAY THE DAMN FALLOUT 2

[earnest bear]

Or just have a city besides/on top of an unexploded Bomb

[gaunt burrow]

Play it and see Horrigan's defeat? Hell nah

[earnest bear]

I have only played 4 and a bit of new Vegas

[gaunt burrow]

I'm too much of a fan of his to defeat him

[sand fiber]

new vegas babies always say "ummm megaton built around a nuclear bomb??? make no sense!!!" but the divide was laos built. bomb!!! hypocrisy much???

[sand fiber]

then play NV idk

[earnest bear]

Also its not accurate that fallout looks like a wasteland after 200 years wen Chornobil looks like a paradise (atlest has far nature is concerned) after about 20 years

[gaunt burrow]

Fallout loremasters, enlighten me, which faction wanted to kill all mutants?

I think Enclave? Not sure tho

[earnest bear]

Duty

[gaunt burrow]

[sand fiber]

the Enclave, and BoS are huge racists in bethesda titles for some reason

[sand fiber]

stalker is not postapoc, and there are places in fallout that look like nature's paradise, at least lore-wise

[gaunt burrow]

So Enclaves plan was to kill all mutants and preserve humans?

As in normal, healthy humans

[sand fiber]

i haven't played FO2 yet but afaik they wanted to eradicate every ghoul, supermutant and irradiated human

[gaunt burrow]

Sounds based as hell ngl

[sand fiber]

basically only "pure" vault-dwellers would survive

[naive fog]

[gaunt burrow]

Ok and Enclave is supposed to be bad?

Eradicate all mutants and preserve healthy humans

[naive fog]

Yes because America is woke now

You gotta respect everyone

[sand fiber]

Enclave ideology eventually incorporated pseudo-scientific concepts like social Darwinism[7] and racism towards non-Enclave humans, super mutants and ghouls. Racism led to genocide; all humans outside the Enclave were designated as near-human mutants to be exterminated.[20][5] The plans to wipe humanity out worldwide,[8] establish a racially pure state of "true humans,"[15] coupled with its authoritarian structure, use of slaves,[21] human experimentation,[15] torture,[22] and unprovoked attacks on American citizens,[23] resulted in the Enclave being seen by the rest of humanity and even its former members as a fascist[2][3][24]

[naive fog]

For who they are

[sand fiber]

not healthy humans, just the ones they consider pure-blooded, and uhhh ghouls are still human, as well as supermutants

[gaunt burrow]

Ahh damn. I see

[naive fog]

And that's bad cause america is woke now

And it's not nice to be mean to people

[exotic mural]

the reason why the Sip-t costs most than the Kora 9-19 is why?

[naive fog]

You gotta respect them for who they are

[sand fiber]

also a guy yesterday tried to convince me the enclave and the legion weren't fascistic lmfao

[wild wharf]

Enclave is based for that

[exotic mural]

Enclave is literally nazis

except the enclave, somehow, took a bigger L than the nazis

[wild wharf]

Fascists, not nazis, second they want to preserve the old world of america

[gaunt burrow]

Unprovoked attacks on american citizens is bad but I can completely understand the fact that they want to eradicate mutants ngl

In that aspect I support them

[wild wharf]

Remember, fascism is different then Nazism

[exotic mural]

Eugenics
Believe in genocide
Totalitarian

not socialist but still

[exotic mural]

yeah except by mutant they deem anyone not born on enclave soil

their entire plan was to release the FEV into both the water and air, killing every human that wasn't enclave

[gaunt burrow]

Sounds wacky

[sand fiber]

except for feral ghouls all mutants are literally just humans

[wild wharf]

I mean, it's perfectly reasonable due to the radiation and various diseases. The only part I disagree with the enclave

[exotic mural]

those that weren't irradiated and also weren't enclave, like vault dwellers, were massacred, kidnapped and enslaved/experimented on

[wild wharf]

Is that they also kill Vault dwellers, I mean they're still pure, but other then that, i can understand them

[exotic mural]

yeah dude killing however billion people is totally a justifiable and not plain evil thing uhuh

[sand fiber]

it's largely the same except that nazism's a bit more racially motivated

[indigo marsh]

Isn't the old world order literally against patt of enclaves values?

[wild wharf]

Yeah, that's a good summary of it

[wild wharf]

I don't recall that, strange

[gaunt burrow]

Damn

[wild wharf]

It's a sacrafice must be made in my opinion

[exotic mural]

im just gonna say this now bro, you would be someone they would shoot on the spot.

actual 1/80000000 chance you arent

[wild wharf]

I'm aware, I just understand them tbh.

Either way, I feel there's a better faction fit to rule the wasteland

[gaunt burrow]

Ok I see. Now I don't wonder why Enclaves are seen as a bad guys

[exotic mural]

if your dad wasnt: a senator close to the president, the actual president, or secret service, you would be killed

and even then, it was a draw because the enclave itself killed a ton of enclave personell to keep it even more hidden

the enclave is cool af no doubt but they are literally textbook evil, no argument

[wild wharf]

The enclave are good, they just don't have enough man power, plus they got their asses whooped by a tribal dude and a vault dweller

[exotic mural]

the enclave are not good they literally want to end humanity as we know it

[indigo marsh]

Like the NCR or the followers of the apocalypse

[exotic mural]

i dont believe any faction should rule the wasteland :^)

[nimble cipher]

nozar_l has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wild wharf]

F*uck the NCR! I AM NOT PAYING TAXES!!!

[naive fog]

Their just misunderstood

[exotic mural]

this so true

enclave fanboys be like "enclave would win!!" okay lol a tribal dude nuked ur house

[wild wharf]

I rather join Ceasers legion then even think of liking NCR

[sand fiber]

guys the incompetent fascists are actually best fit to rule the wasteland :3

-- every enclave&legion supporter ever

[exotic mural]

rape and slavery and mass murder is also probably not very cool??

[wild wharf]

It's a analogy, I prefer House

He seems like the most reasonable option to me

[indigo marsh]

I think the enclave is better than the legion

[wild wharf]

After all, The House always Wins

[exotic mural]

house is the best option for FNV followed closely by yes man imo

[wild wharf]

Then the legion and NCR

[exotic mural]

booo taxes and corrupt government and also booo slave rapists

[exotic mural]

ncr > legion because legion would fail regardless of courier intervention

[indigo marsh]

I don't think anarchy is good in the waste land

[exotic mural]

once caesar dies the legion falls apart, it's a cult of personality

[exotic mural]

dawg i would take rape and slavery over humanity's extinction lol

[wild wharf]

Legion>NCR, legion has no taxes, plus NCR is known to be spread to thin, they can't handle their shit well, as the NCR Civies put jt

The legion having no taxes

[exotic mural]

um, the ncr is a functioning and modern day society. the legion, again, rape and enslave

[wild wharf]

Is the only reason I like em

[exotic mural]

i would rather pay taxes than be a forced laborer/warrior

[sand fiber]

they do

[wild wharf]

... what

[exotic mural]

this as well, they do. lol.

[wild wharf]

Ok, now I got to look this up

[sand fiber]

every society has taxes, including a barely-functioning war-fueled will-fall-any-instant-now ceasar's legion

[wild wharf]

I'm now unironically in shambles, even though I'm a House Dude. That was the only reason I liked legion over NCR

Now I just see both of them as stupid and inconpetent

[nova wedge]

Id never pick the legion in game but something about them is kind of funny to me

[sand fiber]

yeah 'cause they're larpers

[exotic mural]

why is rostok not in CS?

[sand fiber]

blocked by new anomalies after the super emission

[exotic mural]

makes sense cool

now whats the out of lore gameplay reason

[indigo marsh]

The fact they are femboy romaboos?

[exotic mural]

i did a legion playthrough and unironically just got tired and stabbed caesar because of how much they suck

legion is so well written that i dont fw them even when i need to fw them

[sand fiber]

not much besides making the game smaller, shorter and shaking things up a bit, there wouldn't be much sense for a SoC-like hub with lots of quests and content

[exotic mural]

yeah but the bar is so chill

[sand fiber]

doesn't fit the faction war thing i guess

[exotic mural]

faction war smaction war i literally dont care about it

my grindset: shoot bandit, shoot mercenary, shoot duty (on the occasion :3), sometimes shoot freedom

[celest blaze]

Same tbh

[sand fiber]

after cancelling Anarchy Cell CS&CoP were intended as small addons built on-top of SoC

CoP deviated a bit from this concept though

[exotic mural]

havent played cop yet

[celest blaze]

Cop is nice

[sand fiber]

(the best game in the trilogy)

[celest blaze]

That would be clear sky

[sand fiber]

the western brainrot

[celest blaze]

Eastern brainrot

[sand fiber]

i should replay it first but the more i think about it the more i come to a conclusion that CS is antithetical to all SoC and stalker at large is

[indigo marsh]

CoP seems more like western brain rot

[celest blaze]

It's deff not

[tender raven]

Has anyone in NA been able to preorder the ultimate physical edition for PC?

[sand fiber]

but it is, the CoD-like action, the Faction Wars, the upbeat atmosphere

[celest blaze]

You deff need to replay it lol

The factions fight in lore aswell and the ending of soc pure cod action helicopters and all

[sand fiber]

yeah because that's the endgame sequence

[celest blaze]

Still cod like in your view

You need to replay clear sky trust me

[gaunt burrow]

Complaining about Clear Sky having a lot of shootout meanwhile SoC is literally no different lol

[celest blaze]

Fr honestly lol

[gaunt burrow]

You feel like you're John Wick in SoC

[sand fiber]

SoC has it as a nice closing setpiece, while CS is endless CoD in every location

[celest blaze]

Debatable tbh

[sand fiber]

the Faction Wars are a part of this

[celest blaze]

The factions fight In lore though

[sand fiber]

i'm talking about gameplay realisation of it

[gaunt burrow]

All faction wars in Clear Sky are optional (except CS vs Renengades)

[celest blaze]

This aswell

[gaunt burrow]

Its not like you are forced to participate in other wars

[sand fiber]

which is "trillion of stalkers fight for control in an endless shoutout action"

[celest blaze]

This is a gross exaggeration

[gaunt burrow]

Lorewise it wouldn't even be logical for Scar to join any faction (Clear Sky excluded)

[sand fiber]

and yet they're the main selling point of CS

[celest blaze]

No they aren't

[gaunt burrow]

He had more important things to do than fighting for factions

[celest blaze]

Fr he had a mission

[sand fiber]

yes they are, it's the main feature of the game that defines a lot of other things design-wise

[celest blaze]

Yet most of it is optional

I think you don't like clearsky imo

[sand fiber]

and it still feels like CoD

[gaunt burrow]

SoC as well

[celest blaze]

Fr

[gaunt burrow]

But I don't hear you complaining about SoC having constant shootouts

[celest blaze]

There was so many shootouts in soc

From basically the brainscorcher on endless cod action in their eyes

[gaunt burrow]

You kill like hundreds of soldiers in Agroprom Underground alone

[sand fiber]

more like ten but okay lmao

[celest blaze]

It's ok to hate clear sky but it's not ok to lie about the game

[gaunt burrow]

Ok fine, that was exeggeration but point of SoC having constant shootouts stands still

[celest blaze]

Clearsky also has more and better dialoge in places

[gaunt burrow]

I literally feel like John Wick in SoC sometimes, no kidding

[celest blaze]

Fr tbh

[gaunt burrow]

How many Monolithians you kill at Sarcophagus alone?

[celest blaze]

Oh God way to many

[gaunt burrow]

Gotta be at least 20 minimum

[nimble cipher]

baseddlite has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest blaze]

Screw them too cuz they'd camp corners like cod kids with shotguns

[sand fiber]

you fight much more people in CS, i can't even remember a single serious mutant encounter outside of red forest

[celest blaze]

When was the last time you played ?

[solid dome]

SKIF!
GLAD TO SEE YOU, BUDDY
LETS GET OUTTA HERE
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!
MY, MY MOTHERLAND
SO GREAT, A LAND OF CHEREMOSH AND PRUT
YOU ARE MY LOVE, MY LOVE, MY MOTHERLAND
ITS ALIVE!
SENDING YOU THE COORDINATES, HURRY UP!
YOU KNOW ITS HIGH TIME... FOR BIG OPPORTUNITIES
WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THIS SACRIFICE? ALL THESE VICTIMS?
THE ZONE IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE
I'VE SHOWN YOU HOW I SEE IT
WALK YOUR OWN PATH
AND YOU WILL COME TO PERCEIVE THE ZONE IN YOUR OWN WAY

[sand fiber]

let me check

[gaunt burrow]

Of course you fight much more people when you join factions

[sand fiber]

2 years ago

[gaunt burrow]

SoC unlike Clear Sky has no faction war mechanic

[celest blaze]

I've killed so many mutants already

[gaunt burrow]

Yet SoC has too many shootouts nonetheless

Only faction war you are forced to participate in is Clear Sky vs Renegades

[sand fiber]

again, even when you don't join factions you're still fighting tons of humans

[celest blaze]

Ngl turned the difficulty down near the end of soc to just get it over with fighting a literal army of monolith got old

[celest blaze]

I'm gonna be honest that's every stalker game

[sand fiber]

on literally every corner, there's nothing in-between

[celest blaze]

That's not corect

[gaunt burrow]

In Dark Valley you only kill like 1 pseudodog and some mercs

[celest blaze]

It's honestly hard to take your takes serious when you said earlier fallout 3 and 4 are not canon

[sand fiber]

because they aren't!

[gaunt burrow]

More mercs if you accept Chekhovs another sidequest but its optional

[celest blaze]

They are

[sand fiber]

nope

[celest blaze]

This convo is done play clear sky and come back to us

[gaunt burrow]

And at the Red Forest you only kill stalkers Strelok hired

And some renegades + bridge

[sand fiber]

pacing in SoC&CoP is much better, in-between every fight with humans you have an atmospheric lonely segment like the labs or some mutant encounters

[gaunt burrow]

You aren't even forced to kill any human opponent at Agroprom as well

[sand fiber]

in what world are they canon

[celest blaze]

The fact that bethesda OWNS fallout THEY OWN IT

[sand fiber]

and? canon is, again, what you want it to be

[celest blaze]

Nope

[sand fiber]

yes it is lmfao

[gaunt burrow]

What an exeggeration lol

[celest blaze]

No thats head canon and coping

[celest blaze]

Fr lol

[worthy lagoon]

What is happening

[gaunt burrow]

If you won't take Chekhovs second sidequest that is optional then you only kill 1 pseudodog and like 5 mercs at Dark Valley. At Agroprom some zombies if you decide to help group of stalkers

[celest blaze]

Wildness

[nova wedge]

Yeah, that's exactly why

[sand fiber]

deciding what parts of the franchise are canon and what aren't isn't headcanon

[wild wharf]

another reason I like House

[celest blaze]

What? Yes it is

[gaunt burrow]

At the Garbage you don't have to kill any human opponents either (even those 2 bandits who robbed you) killing them is optional

[wild wharf]

I just kill everything I see, that's all I do tbh.

[sand fiber]

especially when there's no connection between fo1-2-nv and 3-4

[worthy lagoon]

Wdym you do

[celest blaze]

Doesn't matter

[sand fiber]

nope

[gaunt burrow]

Ok but even in that case those are only 2 bandits

[celest blaze]

You're crazy honestly lol

[gaunt burrow]

Example?

[sand fiber]

why can't you understand how canonicity works lmfao

[gaunt burrow]

Which human opponent are you forced to kill at Clear Sky Garbage?

[celest blaze]

Why can't YOU

[indigo marsh]

The guys at the camp?

[gaunt burrow]

Not including sidequests

[nova wedge]

Yeah I don't think I ever actually liked anyone in clear sky garbage bc I just japed the part where the bandits rob you

[gaunt burrow]

If you include sidequest killings then yes

[sand fiber]

"If you exclude all elements of the game you actually don't have that many shooutouts!"

[celest blaze]

Here is a quick description of what the word canon means “Canon” means it's official game content, not like fan made or mods. Numbered games in a series are canon games, but offshoot games may not be

[gaunt burrow]

Nozar you getting into avoidable shootouts is on you

[celest blaze]

Zrp and srp mods are not canon

[worthy lagoon]

Bandits?

Y'know, they're a threat

[gaunt burrow]

Those 2 bandits who robbed you? You can also choose not to kill tbem

Them* (but I always do anyways tbh)

[sand fiber]

"official" canon doesn't matter and doesn't exist, every next game has its own canon, only you decide what's canon or not

[gaunt burrow]

Sidequests and those 2 bandits aside you aren't forced to actually kill anyone at the Garbage

You can just remain neutral with bandits too

I'm going purely storywise

[celest blaze]

Clear sky is such a good game

[sand fiber]

did you not read the sentence you're responding
getting into faction wars and side-content isn't "intentional", it's just playing the game

[gaunt burrow]

In SoC storywise you were actually forced to get into a lot of shootouts

[worthy lagoon]

Hangar if you are helping the loners which most people do

[gaunt burrow]

In Clear Sky you can avoid some killings

[sand fiber]

my problem, again, is pacing and atmosphere

[worthy lagoon]

CS is mainly gunfights between humans

[gaunt burrow]

So is SoC

[worthy lagoon]

Different vibes though

[celest blaze]

They feel about the same tbh

[gaunt burrow]

But unlike SoC you can avoid some killings by not joining factions and not doing sidequests

While in SoC you are forced to get into a lot of fights regardless

[worthy lagoon]

Considering in SOC you don't actually get pushed in a faction war like in CS and you have less gunfights and are more lonely orientated, there aren't even any explorable labs in CS

CS is way more fast paced due to its events

And it is in fact mainly about faction wars and gunfights between stalkers

[sand fiber]

kuro why do you have an anime girl as a pfp

[gaunt burrow]

How many Monolithians alone do you kill in SoC? Red Forest/Radar, CNPP, Sarcophagus

[celest blaze]

Keep in mind once you leave the swamp you don't have to participate

[sand fiber]

That's the endgame sequence, oh my god

[celest blaze]

That's not an excuse

Strelok is a mass killer

[sand fiber]

It is, it's the endgame action

[nimble cipher]

markedmatt has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest blaze]

Cod slop as you say

[worthy lagoon]

So you do in the last maps of CS lol, but again, if you try to understand the game events between CS and SOC and play the game as it is, it would have different vibes

[gaunt burrow]

Even in the beginning you are forced to kill tons of militaries at Agroprom & Agroprom underground

You literally kill entire bandit base like Rambo

[celest blaze]

Soc is just a bad port of eastern cod

[sand fiber]

do i have to explain the pacing differences between SoC and CS that make CS feel like non-stop CoD again

[celest blaze]

Play the game again it's been 2 years and you don't know what you're talking about

[grim birch]

What’s going on

[celest blaze]

I'm playing right now and it's not non stop cod action

[sand fiber]

i do know what i'm talking about and i largely remember the entirety of it

[nova wedge]

Critical autism

[grim birch]

Damn

[celest blaze]

Soc is non stop cod Action most of the time

[gaunt burrow]

I'm not arguing about vibes, paces yada yada. My point is both SoC and CS having a lot of shoootouts and not just CS

[sand fiber]

it's not, there is actual pacing in SoC

[celest blaze]

Debatable

[grim birch]

Not to get nosy but what the run down here lmao

[celest blaze]

I think they hate clear sky

[nova wedge]

I don't even know I'm serious

I'm reading words and they have no meaning

[gaunt burrow]

Nozar out there complaining about CS having a lot of shootouts while in SoC's Dark Valley alone you kill entire bandit base like Rambo

[grim birch]

Fair enough

[worthy lagoon]

In CS it's fast paced due to the beginning of the faction wars, everyone is rushing to get the new territories and all of this takes place (lorewise) in a short amount of time, rather than solving the mysteries of the Zone, CS aims at showing the faction wars and the fast chasing to get Strelok and his group

[gaunt burrow]

And thats just on 1 location

[gaunt burrow]

.

Kuro try to understand why we're arguing first

[sand fiber]

no it's not

Start the game > Shoot some humans > Go to a lonely location with lots of mutants > Shoot some mutants > Go to the Agroprom > Shoot some humans > Get into a lonely underground > Shoot some mutants > Get out > Shoot some humans

[celest blaze]

I feel you're honestly baiting right now

[worthy lagoon]

Bro it's an FPS of course you have gunfights, but in SoC you spend more time alone and dealing with mutants more often than in CS, that's because in CS there's the faction wars, fast pacing and way more stalkers, that causes the story to be more gunfight oriented between humans and has less fights between mutants

[grim birch]

Imagine complaining about what you get to shoot and not shoot

Just be happy you get to kill shit in a fps game

[celest blaze]

Depends tbh soc felt like go here shoot go there shoot etc

[sand fiber]

CS is
shoot tons of humans > shoot more humans > even more humans > yipeee agroprom underground > yipeee humans again > another load of humans > humans > still humans > not even an atmospheric lonely segment just humans > humans > oh an atmospheric segment in red forest! > oh no stop it's just more humans

[gaunt burrow]

Faction wars that are optional . You only have to participate in CS vs Renengades. Lorewise it wouldn't even make any sense for Scar to join any faction considering he had more important things to do rather than fighting for factions

[celest blaze]

I miss when trolls were good not this low tier slop

[worthy lagoon]

Lorewise CS is way more about faction wars and gunfights

[grim birch]

The good old days of the internet

[sand fiber]

i swear what do you even play stalker for

[pseudo rivet]

Lore

[celest blaze]

^

[grim birch]

Story telling

[pseudo rivet]

And based gameplay

[sand fiber]

no wonder you people don't like CoP, there's actual design and atmosphere there

[celest blaze]

Go touch grass

[grim birch]

Unlike you

[celest blaze]

I love all the stalker games even anomaly lol

[hidden stratus]

wah wah wah

[gaunt burrow]

Also how does Clear Sky being fast paced excludes the fact of SoC having a lot of shootouts?

[grim birch]

Dude stalker was the first game I played when I was like 6

[indigo marsh]

[worthy lagoon]

Scar literally helping duty and freedom

[pseudo rivet]

Uhm akshually, Anomaly isn't a STALKER game ☝️ 🤓

[celest blaze]

[sand fiber]

because that's the reason i think CS is inferior

[gaunt burrow]

You only help them, you aren't forced to join either of these factions

[celest blaze]

CS is one of the strongest games imo

[gaunt burrow]

Nor participate in their faction war

[pseudo rivet]

Because it's better and your taste is just totally wack?

[worthy lagoon]

That's not the point, the point is that CS is more gunfights oriented than fighting mutants and exploring alone, that's due to its timeline and events

[pseudo rivet]

I mean, sorry to say, but it's usually just the case of something that's good being disliked by you

Although, as of late, you weirdly enough did make some based comments. Curious

[celest blaze]

I wish I could force everyone to play clear sky right now

[worthy lagoon]

I've never said that CS is worse than SoC, but all three games are completely different in such aspects

[hidden stratus]

All three Stalker games are basic, they were made in the 2000s. They didnt have the technology for your Call of Duty shootouts

oh no

[grim birch]

To be fair if they want a cod shootout they should just idk play cod

[celest blaze]

Let's shout out the real mvp GAMMA

(Joke)

[hidden stratus]

True.

[celest blaze]

CS still does offer lore exploration and much more it's not a mindless shooter if you actually talk to npcs

[gaunt burrow]

Thats totally the point. Whole point of this argument is Nozar saying that Clear Sky has a lot of fights while not mentioning SoC having tons of firefights as well. But many firefights in SoC aren't avoidable while in Clear Sky some fights can literally be avoided

[pseudo rivet]

CS has such lore-depth, it's amazing

[gaunt burrow]

For example if you won't accept Chekhovs another sidequest in CS then you just have to kill 1 pseudodog and like 5 mercs

[pseudo rivet]

Man, Wild Territory is just PTSD galore

[sand fiber]

1. the argument is about pacing
2. the intensity of the fights in CS is still higher

[worthy lagoon]

The point is not avoidable or non avoidable

[celest blaze]

I'd go back and reread the argument tbh

[indigo marsh]

I liked wild territory shoot out until the part where I had to go with kruglov

[nova wedge]

I ended up giving him a better gun

[gaunt burrow]

Complains about CS having a lot of firefights, meanwhile only in SoC's Dark Valley alone you kill entire bandit base plus military members in and outside X18

[worthy lagoon]

That's not the point

[gaunt burrow]

Not even mentioning hundreds of Monolithians, Agroprom military and other things

[celest blaze]

Don't forget the military in the underground

[sand fiber]

aaaaaaaaaand yet there are still not as much people as on the literal swamps

[pseudo rivet]

More so Wild Territory when you return from X-16

[indigo marsh]

I would have done that but I didn't know you could do that until CoP pripyat underground mission

[celest blaze]

There is way more monolith and soldiers lol

[worthy lagoon]

The point is the frequency of firefights between humans compared to the fights against mutants as well

[grim birch]

This is funny to read

[celest blaze]

Idk I've killed countless mutants in clear sky

[sand fiber]

monolith is only present in the end-game action sequence

[celest blaze]

Soldiers aswell

This is such a goofy conversation honestly lol

[nimble cipher]

gunnarthesaber has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sand fiber]

nah, agroprom doesn't have nearly as much people as your average clear sky duty vs freedom faction war fight

[worthy lagoon]

Oh well whatever

[celest blaze]

But let's not continue to argue

[grim birch]

As I was trying to say it’s like reading a crap post from 2007

[celest blaze]

Whats yalls Favorite faction?

[grim birch]

I thought monolith was interesting

[sand fiber]

Bogdan's Get'manshczyna

New Chornobyl Republic a close second

[celest blaze]

I wonder if stalker 2 will dive deeper into monolith

[grim birch]

Dude I hope so

[worthy lagoon]

There has been 2 trailers featuring that

[celest blaze]

Tbh I've seen maybe a little bit of one

Busy playing the games rn

I've seen the tornado and some gunplay

[exotic mural]

Oleg Drill after smashing my face in 3 times for no reason whatsoever (Why is this random Clear Sky grunt hitting me)

[celest blaze]

Ngl them rifle bashing caught me off guard the first time it happened

[gaunt burrow]

If you hit F button too much NPCs will hit you

[celest blaze]

Lol honestly kinda based

[exotic mural]

is there any way i can make the bandits not hate me anymore after i've killed idk like 300 or so of them

[gaunt burrow]

Also, if you don't holster your gun near a stalker and you attempt to talk to him, he will punch you as well

[gaunt burrow]

Too late at this point

[exotic mural]

alright so i'll continue shooting them

[gaunt burrow]

Bandits aren't very tolerant and if you killed a lot of them in Clear Sky its easily 6 red bars

Actually wait @exotic mural

Do you have previous save files?

[exotic mural]

i did this the second i entered garbage

but yeah, i have old ones

[gaunt burrow]

Ok reload older saves then

[exotic mural]

that would basically reset my game lol

[gaunt burrow]

You can also improve relation with bandits a bit by doing their sidequests

[exotic mural]

im almost done atp

[gaunt burrow]

Ah ok

I guess every bandit is fully hostile towards you now yes?

[exotic mural]

yeah they KOS

ran past their base to get into Agroprom and it feels like vietnam

[gaunt burrow]

Did you completed their sidequests before at least?

[exotic mural]

shooting bandits while the funny song plays is fun though

[exotic mural]

no, theyve been KOS since first encounter.

you know the part where they mug you? i threw grenades over the truck.

they are like, full bar angry on the factions menu

[gaunt burrow]

I'm asking that because in order to receive sidequests in 1 location for example you gotta complete sidequests in previous location first

[exotic mural]

i dont think that our relationship can recover from this

[gaunt burrow]

Aye. They aren't very tolerant

[exotic mural]

anyways, im gonna go with Clear Sky because like, theyre the name of the game lol

duhhh

[gaunt burrow]

If it was 2 and even 3 red bars then some bandits would still be neutral

[exotic mural]

yeah it's 12 💀

[gaunt burrow]

But 6 red bars is ruined relation basically. Only way to fix this is by reloading previous save

[exotic mural]

so, theoretically, if i shot the duty leader in the face, would they still be mad

:^)

[gaunt burrow]

You can't. Scar holsters his weapons automatically when he enters Duty base

And bases of other factions

[exotic mural]

that dude has a window and i have grenades

[ornate rampart]

there's a mod to revert the rep in CS to any level you want, but if you screwed up I'd say go with the flow if that's your 1st playthrough

the only downside is that you won't get a modification exclusive to bandits but you can live with that

[exotic mural]

it's gonna be like the best one in the game because it's locked behind the absolute garbage that is the bandit faction

[gaunt burrow]

Real

All my homies hate bandits

[celest blaze]

fr

[nova wedge]

Do you guys kill the two in Limansk or do you spare their pitiful lives

[indigo marsh]

Spare them

[exotic mural]

5.56x45 into the head :3

i hope that in S2 you can hold your scanner and primary out at the same time

[nova wedge]

I hope the eating and drinking sounds from CoP are back but even worse

[celest blaze]

loud lip smacking

[exotic mural]

if this game has the Subnautica Below Zero ass sounds im shooting myself

in minecraft, as a joke, virtually, in theory

[blissful axle]

we need it so bad

[celest blaze]

Theoretically it is doable if they give us a sling

[exotic mural]

get help stalker quest

let every stalker but the commander die

kill zombies

FAT loot

[exotic mural]

you can hold the scanner in your left hand and prop the gun up on your arm

make it so that it's wildly innacurate to shoot like that so people actually put away the scanner and hold the gun

but not have it take so long to holster your current gun and pull out your primary

idk, the main thing i hope for is a much more refined combat system. series is great but the gunplay, which is a core element, kinda stinks

your guns dont shoot where you aim for like 99% of the game and then you get the first gun that acts like a gun

i think it harms immersion when i put my scope dead on someone's head, click and then the bullet flies 3 feet to the left

unless most guns in this game arent rifled, this shouldnt be the case yk

[thick lichen]

@worthy lagoon
question

#📸┃screens_and_videos message
is this considered a stalker meme

cuz it is eco lab........

[exotic mural]

😐

[hidden stratus]

I dont think so. I think there's only two times we go inside a eco lab in the series

One for dumbass Strelok and another for dumbass alexander

[exotic mural]

its not like you can even tell it's an eco lab just by looking at it

[drifting shard]

is this guy legit? he says that stalker was the worst game demo he played at sgf and that it looked completely different from the trailers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhM7msI69A&t=197s&pp=ygUSaSBwbGF5ZWQgc3RhbGtlciAy

[exotic mural]

he is blabbering and is crying about anomalies killing you (the point of anomalies)

nothing major

[celest blaze]

this dude never played a stalker game disregard

[primal current]

Imagine if in S2 people actually claimed their kills and you couldnt get rich off free corpses, or people dont like it if you looted their friends

[exotic mural]

it's quite obvious this is the first time he has even seen the series

[celest blaze]

i hate normies

[drifting shard]

right, just the way he described everything is kinda funny

but the graphics part is kinda worrying tbh, you dont have to be a fan to notice insane lag/tearing

[primal current]

Dude was face-checking anomalies and probably didnt know bolts exist

[celest blaze]

like operator drewski linking anomaly, true stalker and not linking clearsky when he put the other 2 games in the description

[exotic mural]

"i died to an anomaly!"

you cant see those lol

"I died to radiation!"

you cant see that lol

"the UI doesnt tell you when youre about to die!"

you have to look at it lol

[primal current]

No yellow paint around the health bar pls understand

[exotic mural]

gonna be real with yall i played the entirety of SOC without knowing bolts existed

[indigo marsh]

[drifting shard]

this is also more confusing bc many other people have said the demo looked and played amazing

[exotic mural]

its not even hard to just look at an anomaly and think "i wont walk into that."

[primal current]

You dont even need bolts that badly just the beeping should be warning enough

[exotic mural]

"damn, my detector is beeping. i'll not go that way"

🤯

in Clear Sky though the beeping means good loot inbound

[drifting shard]

he probably didnt even know what the anomaly detector was

[indigo marsh]

It's harder in CS bc the artifacts are invisible and in the anomaly fields

[exotic mural]

i love walking into actual cancer and getting a crystal in return

[primal current]

Theres 2 different beepings one for anomalies one for artifacts

[exotic mural]

yeah

there is

[celest blaze]

i had to turn off the video he describes things in such a basic way

was painful to listen to

[primal current]

The part where this reviewer guy died to radiation is worse imo

[celest blaze]

[primal current]

Specifically a geiger counter should be quite distinct

[exotic mural]

me when i walk into a heavily irradiated area (my brain cells are becoming skin cells)

[celest blaze]

[drifting shard]

he's just so negative bro, like he wanted to hate it

[exotic mural]

i think maybe the radiation in stalker 2 did stuff to him irl too.....

[primal current]

Microwaved a bit too hard

[celest blaze]

he must own a playstation and is mad he cant play right away

[exotic mural]

this guy has 500k subscribers? jesus christ

[exotic mural]

thats a thing?

[celest blaze]

i think xbox has timed exclusivity

[drifting shard]

3 month launch exclusivity

[exotic mural]

https://www.youtube.com/@LukeStephensTV/videos

after looking at the type of games he plays, it is clear that he has never played anything remotely close to stalker

[indigo marsh]

He has a like to dislike ratio of 1.5 on this video.

[exotic mural]

"I PLAYED FALLOUT 1... IT WAS CLUNKY AND OLD... THANKS FOR WATCHING"

people actually subscribe to this guy? lol......

[indigo marsh]

And people who know about stalker are telling him in the comments that he sucks at the game (but in a nicer way)

[celest blaze]

he played suicide squad unironically his opinion is irrelevant ong

[drifting shard]

even IGN is saying the game is good from the SGF its literally just this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaQTtceUrH0

[celest blaze]

imagine ending arkham series with that slop

[drifting shard]

and ign literally finds the worst takes sometimes

[exotic mural]

lets be real here, IGN saying a game is good hasnt had meaning since 2011

didnt they give Infinite Warfare a 10

[celest blaze]

atleast they are right about stalker 2

[exotic mural]

a broken clock is right twice a day i suppose

[drifting shard]

7.7/10

[celest blaze]

last 10/10 cod was og mw2 imo

[exotic mural]

yeah okay boomer

[celest blaze]

@exotic mural you're a boomer aswell for liking SoC ( its older then og mw 2)

[raven grove]

Bro likes a rifle designed in 1868, turbo boomer

[exotic mural]

i like that youre clarifying that youre talking about the original mw2 because no duh SoC is older than the one released like last year 💀

[exotic mural]

gun works? gun works.

[raven grove]

Eh, debatable

[celest blaze]

fr its just a force of habit now lol

[exotic mural]

you cant debate 7.62 going through your forehead

[celest blaze]

fair counter point

[raven grove]

If you can hit my forehead

[celest blaze]

that night at the roxbury stalker version goes hard

[exotic mural]

is there an equivalent to SOC's bolt/moonlight in CS

the map is bigger but the sprinting is less :(

[celest blaze]

My only issue with clear sky is the stamina feels drastically cut back

[hidden stratus]

For a dollar a day you can help one ex-monolith get their life back together.

[exotic mural]

red forest in SOC: haha im gonna shoot monolith bad guys

red forest in CS:

[still ridge]

Ngl seems like there’s a solid amount and variety of weapons in S2

I mean just SMGs we’ve seen like 4 already

[exotic mural]

mosin nagant :D

[hidden stratus]

An interesting weapon from a different time

[still ridge]

We’ve seen MP5, PP-19, Kiparis, and I guess you can count APS

3 of those are new

I think there’s gonna be quite an arsenal

[raven grove]

I'm most excited for the M1A, even though it's in the gross archangel stock

[exotic mural]

APS is just an auto makarov lets be real kids

[exotic mural]

archangel stock is highkey goated wym

[raven grove]

It's a cheap option if you're bench shooting, for anything else it's not as good

[hidden stratus]

isn't that an american weapon?

[raven grove]

It is, I have one

[still ridge]

It is basically a civilian M14

[hidden stratus]

What is the US doing in the zone?

[still ridge]

It’s a civilian weapon

[hidden stratus]

still american right? Had to have gotten there somehow

I am purple now

[raven grove]

Question the M1A but not all of the M4s in the zone

[still ridge]

I was going to say

L85s in the zone

LR-300

HK416 in stalker 2 as well

[hidden stratus]

completely forgot about the m4 even if its one of the most common weapons

[still ridge]

Also that new Israeli gun

lol

[hidden stratus]

We need the mf SCAR in the sone.

[raven grove]

I too enjoy firearms where no two parts are the same color

[warm linden]

racist?

[still ridge]

Lot of new weapons, love to see it

[raven grove]

I don't like racing, vehicle, horses, any of it

[warm linden]

I'm kinda surprised there wasn't much western goods in the zone before

[still ridge]

I forgot, we’ve also seen a MAC-10

[warm linden]

I am praying there is no one that's gonna complain about western goods being in the zone

[raven grove]

[celest blaze]

We need the AUG

[warm linden]

I am going to mald if stalker 2 gets the post apocalypse tag

[still ridge]

I mean

Does it not already

[celest blaze]

I think it does

[still ridge]

So do the originals

[celest blaze]

I think it's just for ease of describing what stalker is

[warm linden]

I mald about it because the rest of the world is fine it's just the zone is completely scuffed

[still ridge]

Ok well if you play the games you know that’s not the case

[warm linden]

Yeah but I'm all for not giving people the wrong impression

[still ridge]

So it’s no big deal

[warm linden]

I KNOW, LET ME MALD AND SEETHE

[still ridge]

literally a non issue

[celest blaze]

Tag stalker as a localized apocalypse

[still ridge]

[warm linden]

IM COPING CAUSE I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE HAVING WRONG EXPECTATIONS

[deft stirrup]

Post apocalyptic fps horror survival

[deft stirrup]

Well u are only gonna play in the zone not the outside world

[hidden stratus]

I dont know guns

[celest blaze]

This may be controversial but lmgs?

[warm linden]

anyway im more interested in what mutants are gonna be in the zone

[deft stirrup]

Deer 🦌

Bayun 😺

[warm linden]

Oh we absolutely need more LMG's

[wild wharf]

Yeah like the RPK, DP 27, Etc

[deft stirrup]

Viper 5

Isnt that an lmg

[warm linden]

Oh god I'm waiting for the complaints that stalker is too western

[deft stirrup]

What

[indigo marsh]

I mean there are generally purpose mgs already so there is precedent for it

[hidden stratus]

i want glock with a switch

[indigo marsh]

That is a Smg

[warm linden]

I'm sorry it's in my nature to assume bad stuff

[deft stirrup]

Whats the difference between smg and lmg

[warm linden]

blunderbuss with a switch

[indigo marsh]

Smgs shoots pistol caliber rounds

[hidden stratus]

bow with a switch

[deft stirrup]

Toz with a 4 round barrel

[warm linden]

VSS Vintorez with the switch

[indigo marsh]

LMG are machine guns that can be operated by a single person

[warm linden]

Do you have any idea how mad I was in call of pripyat when I couldn't shoot the giant gauss cannon

[celest blaze]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

[warm linden]

If I see big gun I DEMAND TO FIRE IT

[deft stirrup]

Ngl toz 34 underrated

[celest blaze]

Fr I agree

[warm linden]

I hate the Toz 66

[celest blaze]

Ngl I want some semi auto rifles

Like FAL

[deft stirrup]

Who dat

[indigo marsh]

The db in stalker

[warm linden]

It tends to be terrible in everything I play except the og games lmao

[deft stirrup]

Ive never seen the toz66

[celest blaze]

The db in stalker is deadly

[deft stirrup]

Only in mods

[drifting shard]

i just hope you cant run and gun with an LMG if they're gonna add it

[celest blaze]

Same ^

[indigo marsh]

The sawed off shot guns is the sawed off toz 66 in Stalker

[warm linden]

funny thing is that most mods that have the gun get it way wrong and it's just the most inaccurate piece of trash

[deft stirrup]

Why didnt i know that

[warm linden]

I will mod the game so you can run and gun with the LMG, don't test me

[drifting shard]

mods for stalker two are gonna be legendary

[celest blaze]

I forget which mod for call of chernobyl adds American lmgs but based stealing it off a monolith body

[warm linden]

STALKER 2 GAMMA

[celest blaze]

I'd rather stalker 2 EFP tbh

[indigo marsh]

It's the Toz 66 not the toz 34.
Sorry 😔 misinput

[drifting shard]

gamma is fine and all till it was all people could talk about

[warm linden]

Stalker 2 anomaly

[celest blaze]

I'd give it a try

[warm linden]

Rimworld Anomaly Gamma

[deft stirrup]

All modpacks/mods gonna fall off when s2 releases

[celest blaze]

Fr imo

[drifting shard]

make sure to adjust drop conditions on weapons if you ever wanna complete a function gun in a reasonable time thats fun

[celest blaze]

For gamma or base anomaly ?

[drifting shard]

bc all the mod makers are gonna be playing with their new built in mod support with stalker 2 lol

[drifting shard]

gamma

[celest blaze]

I ditched gamma pretty early on ngl

It's not stalker imo

[indigo marsh]

From what I have heard it's more like tarkov with Stalker elements

[celest blaze]

I think of gamma as its own kind of sandbox and that's Ok but man it's really different

The gun ban is extremely silly

[indigo marsh]

What gun ban?

[drifting shard]

stalker gamma just isnt for me imo, i like the sandbox aspect of it, but running around without a story makes it all seem kinda meaningless

[indigo marsh]

You mean the fact you can't get guns from traders?

[celest blaze]

Traders not buying or selling guns

[celest blaze]

Fr I prefer efp if I had to pick one

[drifting shard]

also the gun ban yeah, with how low drop conditions are in gamma dude you literally cannot find a function weapon even if you kill a legend stalker

[celest blaze]

And that's bad balance if that was a real game people would want a refund lol

Gamma is like morrowind rebirth mod it's someone else's vision of stalker

[drifting shard]

"ah yes, a true legend of the zone. his trusty rusty ass ak-105 and two pornomags"

[broken latch]

And it's the wrong vision of stalker - this message have been you brought to you by the vanilla purists

[indigo marsh]

honestly the magazine(like the reading one) is kinda extra

Well I guess since it's based on a mod for call of misery I guess it's not anomaly and it's mod gamma's fault

[drifting shard]

im sure ill like the new mods people will make in stalker2 similar to this, but the main vision has always been the vanilla stuff

[indigo marsh]

That's the misery bloat

[broken latch]

Forks

[indigo marsh]

🍴

Ignore the knife

[exotic mural]

standing in the middle of a freedom/duty warzone and picking up the sweet sweet goop >>>

"i just robbed your friend's corpse, wanna buy his gun?"

bro had a pkm

[deft stirrup]

So boring

[exotic mural]

so profitable

5 vals, 2 grozas, and an upgraded ac96

[covert slate]

i just find it so funny that you can't even have the technicians repair your stuff in GAMMA, like who in their right mind thinks "hmmm that's not fun, lets add it"

truly a Grok moment

[exotic mural]

I haven't played gamma but why is everyone hating on it

Is it bad or is it just big and people don't like big mods, like Terraria Calamity

[covert slate]

it basically strays too far from what makes stalker what it is, basically "tarkovizing" it and adding alot of questionable things that aren't really fun

[gaunt burrow]

I read dialogues of that 1 bandit first

After that I reload the save and kill both

@hidden stratus welcome to the purple gang

[deft stirrup]

Its a modpack on top of anomaly that literally changes the entire game into something that's not stalker and big youtubers like to not play the trilogy and just play anomaly gamma edition

[nimble cipher]

brandon.5 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[deft stirrup]

Praising it for "being too hard"

[hidden stratus]

Thank you. These frickin blues wished they could be up here

[wild wharf]

At what level do you become purple?

[gaunt burrow]

25

[deft stirrup]

Im lvl 19

[wild wharf]

I'm level 23

I am SO CLOSE

[deft stirrup]

I have been in this server for a long time but i never actually said anything

[hidden stratus]

Damn you must be very active

[deft stirrup]

I joined apparently since 2022

[nova wedge]

Damn purplists

[hidden stratus]

Know your place blue

[gaunt burrow]

1 more level and I'll become master

[hidden stratus]

What lvl is master

[gaunt burrow]

50

[deft stirrup]

Shouldn't it be expert then master

[nova wedge]

Oh wait my name changed I didnt even notice I got christened

[gaunt burrow]

same thing

[hidden stratus]

Isnt there another level or does it end there

[gaunt burrow]

in the games games it's expert rank instead of master

[gaunt burrow]

legend of the zone comes after master

[deft stirrup]

Games games

[hidden stratus]

Im guessing its either 75 or 100

[deft stirrup]

100

[gaunt burrow]

I believe its from level 70

[hidden stratus]

Krezzin and his copypastas got him there real quick

[deft stirrup]

Who is krezin

[hidden stratus]

He preaches every so often

[deft stirrup]

O that guy

[gaunt burrow]

Dad of STOC members

Good old Uncle @solid dome

[wild wharf]

Krezzin is the Preacher of STOC

[wild wharf]

Wait, how is Krezzin our dad and uncle?

[gaunt burrow]

he can be who you want him to be

[wild wharf]

Grandpa Krezzin it is

[pseudo rivet]

Krezzin the Boomer fr

[wild wharf]

Are you calling Grandpa Krezzin a boomer?!

[pseudo rivet]

Yes

[pseudo rivet]

He's literally STOC's version of Uncle Grandpa

Like, legit 100%

[wild wharf]

He truly is our own Uncle Grandpa

Every other server would be jealous

[pseudo rivet]

Now we just need a STALKER edit of Uncle Grandpa

[finite dragon]

what u mean he is only 26yo

[pseudo rivet]

See this man? Fish react him

[silver pagoda]

SKIF! GLAD TO SEE YOU, BUDDY
LETS GET OUTTA HERE
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!
🎶 MY, MY MOTHERLAND
SO GREAT A LAND OF CHEREMOSH AND PRUT
YOU ARE MY LOVE, MY LOVE, MY MOTHERLAND* 🎶
ITS ALIVE!
SENDING YOU THE COORDINATES, HURRY UP
YOU KNOW ITS HIGH TIME FOR BIG OPPORTUNITIES
WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THIS SACRIFICE? ALL THESE VICTIMS?
THE ZONE IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE
I'VE SHOWN YOU HOW I SEE IT
WALK YOUR OWN PATH
AND YOU WILL COME TO PERCEIVE THE ZONE IN YOUR OWN WAY

[pseudo rivet]

Real

[autumn folio]

stalker 2 will have vehicel ?

[finite dragon]

If it does I'll be able to run over bandits

[wild wharf]

We will get to be able to commit Veichular Manslaughter, let's go!

[pseudo rivet]

I'm pretty sure they confirmed it wouldn't, but I'm not sure

[finite dragon]

Manslaughter implies it was accidental

[wild wharf]

Well then Veichular Homicide it is then!

[pseudo rivet]

Roadkill fr

But not in STALKER

[finite dragon]

Burers trying to stop the 5 ton chunk of metal coming at them at like 70 kmph

[pseudo rivet]

STALKER + Vehicles = Yikes

[wild wharf]

Burer is going to be roadkill and my dinner, noice

[calm bough]

[pseudo rivet]

/ask-gpt Should there be working vehicles we can drive with in the Zone? Why?

Dang, disabled huh?

[broken latch]

@pseudo rivet what do you think will be the first mod for s2

[naive fog]

Deff gamma

[pseudo rivet]

Well, that's hard to say. Technically, people can already build things for HoC despite it not being out yet, seen how UE5 is a known engine

[stark plover]

Probably going to be some low effort gun pack.

[hazy helm]

Texture swaps and audio mods

Naturally

[calm bough]

yeah like 4k textures or weather mods

[hazy helm]

No

Meme mods

Always the first to come out

[pseudo rivet]

Texture swaps with HoC is going to be hard one, I imagine

Always meme mods. Model replacing is fairly easy

[nova wedge]

Boykisser freedom patch mod. Calling it

[pseudo rivet]

Sounds more like a Bandit thing, ngl

[nova wedge]

You may be fast but furry gooners with laptops are faster

[pseudo rivet]

I mean, of course

[hazy helm]

The tools to unpack UE games are becoming better and better so

Hard to say

[gaunt burrow]

real

[hazy helm]

Shouldn't be as hard

[pseudo rivet]

If they can buy expensive fursuits, they can buy the fastest PCs on Earth

[nova wedge]

Yeah but a lot are also pretty tech savvy so modding is usually easy work for them

[pseudo rivet]

I've got this theory that furries are actually government agents, but so far, I have no evidence supporting this theory

But, like, it makes sense, right?

[nova wedge]

You have a point

[stark plover]

There's at least one that is.

[pseudo rivet]

Oh, that's for certain

[stark plover]

So you definitely aren't wrong

[ripe hinge]

I am Jerusalem

[nova wedge]

Speaking of feds what kind of autist online group do you think they hate being assigned to most

[pseudo rivet]

I mean, it makes sense. Like, the politicians are reptiles. If they're scalies, then furries being gov't agents is a logical conclusion

[pseudo rivet]

Depends on which stereotypes we're going with

[gaunt burrow]

Mark Zuckerberg is also a reptile

[pseudo rivet]

He's definitely extraterrestrial

Without a doubt

[indigo marsh]

Nah, he definitely is AI

[pseudo rivet]

That'd be Elon

[indigo marsh]

The more ai tech improves the more normal he acts

[nova wedge]

Hes just acclimating

[broken latch]

I hope a sidorovich meme mod is firt

[pseudo rivet]

Romance Sidorovich mod

[deft stirrup]

Cant game right new video

[hazy bear]

I have a War of the Worlds tripod I've just completed in blender. I wonder if that would go good with Stalker 2 for mods. I'm pretty good in UE5 to easily put it in.

[pseudo rivet]

"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one."

And yet, they come.

[worthy lagoon]

Uhhh i can't load the link

[ripe hinge]

Creampie Cookies

[finite dragon]

[loud gate]

[exotic mural]

I absolutely love the red forest in CS

In the day it's sort of imposing but at night it's just a horror game

[solid dome]

Nah nah the DNA test came out wrong

Can't be

[solid dome]

You chase bloodsuckers at night with your Mosin to sin freely, beat them with your ol trusty gun stick!

You're more dangerous than Baba Yaga!

[exotic mural]

Unironically i can't ever seem to kill a bloodsucker with my gun

I just have to run up and stab them

[solid dome]

Exactly, you beat them with it, as it hits like a tree

Their backs hurt like heck

[exotic mural]

Glorious mosin carved from ancient siberian logs in 1912, as strong as titanium

Bolt action rifles scratch an itch in my brain both irl and ingame, I'm probably autistic

I can't wait to beat stalker 2 and then wait for 20 years again

[solid dome]

In the closet, right?

[exotic mural]

Its June, I'm free.

[solid dome]

Wake me up when September comes

(Stalkers Green Day Bootleg)

[celest goblet]

S2 is one of the most wish listed games on steam, if it delivers on launch it definitely has the potential to make the series big. And I think the general audience is more ready for stalker now than it was in 2007

[exotic mural]

Oh definitely. Stalker was released and instead of being a pop and fading away, it just continued to grow in cultural significance

It seems like any survival horror game you play will have some sort of reference to it

Also if you guys have a vr headset, play into the radius

[celest blaze]

[tender torrent]

Red forest in the middle of the night full of invisible leeches running everywhere

[exotic mural]

Walking through and then seeing a pair of eyes dart into the treeline (im cooked)

[celest blaze]

[exotic mural]

the pseudogiant you have to kill is so goofy dude, 6 mags of 5.56 AP, over 100 rounds of sp-6 and like 4 grenades finally took it down

[tender torrent]

I can't wait to see the reaction of all the Twitch, YouTube, etc. streamers when they are in the middle of the night facing the mutant with few resources

[exotic mural]

How many dumb streamers do you think are going to walk into an anomaly, get fried and then rage about game design?

[gaunt burrow]

they are way more durable in CS & CoP. In SoC they had lower health

[exotic mural]

We've already had one and the game isn't out yet

[exotic mural]

Yeah in SoC theye pushovers, in CS its a bossfight

[tender torrent]

I think the worst is the PSI controller, with the sounds they make you paranoid

[celest blaze]

bro those controllers lol

i remember my first encounter with one

cant wait to see them in S2

[loud gate]

You've seen two different ones so far

[ornate rampart]

controversial question: would you want bloodsuckers to be invulnerable until they decloak or not?