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[wet lark]

If theres a fanbase that would do something about a greedy game, itd be the stalker fanbase

[finite dragon]

Im sure it'll be a great game, but I still feel nervous for the launch.

[fluid abyss]

I think a good example is helldivers 2: it was so fun that when the game launched nobody could play it for like 2-3 weeks because the servers were flooded lol

Arrowhead didn't expect their game to blow up like it did, but it did because it is simply a very good game

[wet lark]

Same, have you heard about them closing off certain quests if you dont preorder the game?

[fluid abyss]

?

[wet lark]

I heard they trashed it for micro transactions or whatever after it popped off

[finite dragon]

I have, and it only has me a bit worried. Can only hope for the best.

[fluid abyss]

as a person who preordered the phattest edition possible, I hope they keep everything fairly accessible to those who didn't preorder

[wet lark]

https://youtu.be/vkfyWUfWHE0?si=E2rX9ZK2GVQffU7b

I understand they need to make money, but id rather they do it as dlcs

And not a one time limited time preorder

[fluid abyss]

personally I'm still not a fan of the obnoxious HUD elements, I hope that the game is intended to be played without them (or with hud elements being very minimal)

[wet lark]

Same

[finite dragon]

Me too.

[wet lark]

I also really dislike the new stalker outfits

[fluid abyss]

mol1t did confirm that there are options regarding HUD, but that's kinda vague and could be as simple as "HUD on/off"

[wet lark]

Bruh I cant send images?

[fluid abyss]

not in this channel

[wet lark]

I sent it to #💬┃en_offtop

Actually now that I think about it it kinda makes sense

[fluid abyss]

#💬┃en_offtop message
I'll say it here too, I think that second one is supposed to be a stalker variant

I hope it isn't actually the 1:1 of freedom because that would kinda be doodoo

but I can totally understand if they just made the classic sunrise outfit a little rarer (because in such a scavenged Zone, who tf is shipping hundreds of sunrise suits into the zone??)

[wet lark]

Its supposed to be set 10 years past cop where freedom and duty are both dwindling, so it makes sense that theyd look geared down

Also it looks like its a low tier version of a freedom suit

[wet lark]

Yes its a freedom guy

[fluid abyss]

yeah, that one screams "recon" to me

[wet lark]

Yeah, and the duty guy looks way more geared and accurate to his trilogy counterparts

So I think that ones just a low tier freedom suit

[broken latch]

Triology has deathmach, team deathmach and capture the flag for multiplayer, stalker 2 will have the same

Most stable coop mod rn is shadow of coop, it's a addon for XRmpe mod

[wet lark]

That kinda sucks

I really hope we get a coop version where we get to explore the zone with friends

[broken latch]

If you have a sh*t box like me, the mod might give you a blu screen

[fluid abyss]

I'm pretty sure they said "no" to that a million times

[broken latch]

We wont

[wet lark]

Why

[fluid abyss]

ruins the vibe of the game they're going for

[broken latch]

Removes atmosphere

[fluid abyss]

also multiplayer is a whole different beast in terms of game development

[wet lark]

So exploring the zone with friends removes the atmosphere but slide cancelling in team deathmatch doesnt

[broken latch]

What

This isn't call of duty

[wet lark]

I know

It was hyperbole

[fluid abyss]

?

[covert slate]

there wouldn't be any of that in this thankfully

[wet lark]

Thank god

[covert slate]

this is why multiplayer is going to be worked on Post-Launch

[wet lark]

Id actually like a stalker 2 multiplayer like that if itd have a more tactical vibe than all the other arcade shooters

[covert slate]

to focus on the most important aspect

[wet lark]

But a coop with friends in the zone would be pretty nice imo

[covert slate]

besides, it's just going to be the basic TDM/DM/CTF modes like the classic games

but i'm sure it won't be long before co-op mods get added

[wet lark]

Coop mods that some of us wont have access to

[compact ridge]

i wonder what we getting when we get the best online pre order

[covert slate]

skins and outfits, it says on the edition info

[compact ridge]

i wonder what though

[covert slate]

probably some faction based ones

[compact ridge]

and will it change on our faction

also i wonder what they are bringing to the game since the season pass

[wet lark]

Season pass hurts

[compact ridge]

yk its just like for the upcoming dlcs right

[covert slate]

well "season pass" as in how the old term for it was, which was the future DLC access

[fluid abyss]

personally, I hope that the story is weak

[compact ridge]

why?

[covert slate]

[wet lark]

What

[fluid abyss]

imo STALKER is more about being in the zone more than watching cutscenes

[compact ridge]

fair

[wet lark]

Its 50/50

[compact ridge]

but still a good story also what makes a good game as well

plus the lore

[wet lark]

Theres the atmosphere of the game, and theres the story and understanding of the universe, two halves of the game

[compact ridge]

yea

[wet lark]

Cutscenes and lore can help expand the atmosphere aswell

[fluid abyss]

true, but too strong of a story and you end up with "savior of the world" syndrome where you become too much of a chosen one... and I think that takes away from the whole "you're a nobody who needs to make a name for himself" vibe

[wet lark]

Like your interactions with other stalkers in the game help to set the vibe

[fluid abyss]

I liked the friend system

[compact ridge]

yea where other factions might like you

[wet lark]

You can set up a pretty strong story and still maintain that "youre a nobody" feel

[fluid abyss]

not even factions, just individual squads

[wet lark]

Honestly though going off the trilogy I still felt like the main character

[compact ridge]

yea but in the up and coming missions what about them

[compact ridge]

oh that one yea i liked it too

[wet lark]

Everyone is still mostly vastly underleveled compared to you, and you are the most skillful stalker in the entire zone

[compact ridge]

i liked cop since you have to get other people form other factions to help in missions

[wet lark]

But that just comes with playing a story game so you cant really get any better than how they did it

[wet lark]

Honestly cop is the best stalker

[compact ridge]

clear sky was good but the bugs and the outpost in corden was bad

[compact ridge]

honest but i dont have sop or soc

[fluid abyss]

imo I played CoP a lot, I kinda liked how you were kinda stumbling through the Zone more than "omg u r da strelok"

[wet lark]

It takes all the good parts of the first two and optimizes them

[compact ridge]

thats the other on

[compact ridge]

thats sop im pretty sure

[wet lark]

Yeah, nobody really cares about who you are

[compact ridge]

cause cop is where you are strelok

[nimble whale]

CoP

[wet lark]

Obviously youre revered, but youre also surrounded by a bunch of thieves and outlaws who just wanna make a buck or escape the outside world

[compact ridge]

i forgot sop or soc

[wet lark]

They arent gonna care about you, legend or not

[fluid abyss]

Shadow of Chernobyl, Clear Sky, and Call of Pripyat

[compact ridge]

CoP is your with the mil and Soc or SoP is your strelok

[nimble whale]

SoC, CS, CoP

[wet lark]

No cop youre military

[compact ridge]

thats what i said

[wet lark]

CS youre with mercs, SoC youre strelok

[fluid abyss]

it felt like people were wary of you, but also acknowledging your capabilities as a merc/stalker

[wet lark]

Oh, damn my bad

[compact ridge]

CS is where you were a merc but now clear sky

but can change faction

also if you just want your a no one but want it to be hard and better gaphics look for stalker gamma im not saying you should be its a good experience though

very hard and cool though

[wet lark]

Itd be cool if you had the story mode and then something more like anomaly where youre just a quest runner whos mot important

[hidden stratus]

Has it been confirmed or denied if the game will shift into 'freeplay'/'freeroam' after you finish the main story?

[gaunt burrow]

If you refuse to get evacuated then yes

Deg will stay in the Zone. But you still can ask guides to get you out of the Zone

[broken latch]

I was reading that

[gaunt burrow]

Scar is a mercenary but he has no connection whatsoever with the 'mercenary faction'. To begin with, other mercs don't really treat him as one of their own. This is particularly visible in dialogues with Hog, who calls Scar a "merc", just like most of the other characters do, and when explaining to him what will happen if they fail their task, i.e. clients won't trust the mercs no more, he doesn't seem to take Scar into account at all - as if it didn't apply to him.

Other characters also don't treat Scar as a member of the mercenary organization - Chekhov doesn't suspect him of any contacts with the hostile mercenaries in the Dark Valley, and he's not surprised by his willingness to assist in eliminating them, all the while being surprised that the mercs attacked another faction.

It's also worth noting that when the player joins any faction, then its emblem will be visible in the PDA and UI; however, if the player is factionless, then the emblem used by the mercenaries won't be visible anywhere. This further suggests that Scar was a merc only by profession and had no connection with the organization. Of course, it can be assumed that there are other 'mercenary freelancers' in the Zone, but we only know about Scar.

[wet lark]

So there are mercs connected to the organization and then just guys who do their own thing taking up random jobs?

[gaunt burrow]

Scar is pretty much an exception

He, despite being a merc also acts like a regular stalker as well

Description of their suit in SoC describes them as actual faction: "Stalker suit from the Merc faction. Its design is based on the suit used by the special forces of the Western armies. Due to a special treatment of the fabric, the armor has a strengthened stability during the physical movement of its plates. Its protective properties are slightly better then those of the PSZ-7 military bulletproof suits."

Hog, the mercenary leader from Clear Sky, mentions that if one group of mercs messes something up, then all other mercenaries will suffer the consequences - which suggests that they all belong to one organization:

We were ordered to find them, 'cause we have to deliver on our promise. If we screw this up, no client will ever trust the mercenaries with another order again.

[broken latch]

I think they made scar mercenary because of the faction war system, if he was a loner it would immediately put him in loners Vs bandits

[gaunt burrow]

Hogs mercs also mention a mercenary code: "Leshiy's group completed a really important assignment right before the Emission - they found a very rare artifact. We even contacted the client to let him know the goods are on their way, but Leshiy never made it back. We're mercenaries and we got a code - without it we're nothing. A contract must be executed. Period. If we screw up a job that's our reputation down the toilet, and no serious client will ever give us work again! That'd leave us wandering the Zone as stalkers again."

[gaunt burrow]

Could be

[wet lark]

So then that explains why theyre all mostly Russian

I always thought the mercs came in from the outside, not that they were stalkers who chose to be mercs

[gaunt burrow]

Realistically mercs could be from everywhere. In SoC for example Mercenary Ara, who was buying info from Freedom snitch Pavlik and random merc NPCs have Armenian accents

https://vocaroo.com/1cshY0LisMNx (Voiceline of random merc NPC) https://vocaroo.com/1kjCQ2bp2mm9. (Voiceline of Mercenary Ara)

Mercs lore inClear Sky seems inconsistent

For example despite SoC describing them as real pros, Clear Sky mercs don't even know names of famous mutants such as bloodsucker

"I'm waiting for the boss to give the order. Subordination and all that. We're here to save Leshiy's group, but it's a bit tough given that we can't find the poor sons of bitches! To make matters worse we lost our radio operator in the village by the water tower. We went there to get a better radio signal, and some invisible squid came out of nowhere and slaughtered him. We couldn't do shit about it because we ain't trained to fight monsters - these days our main enemy is other humans." - Dialogue of Hog's merc

Hog himself also refers to bloodsucker as "badass monster"

[broken latch]

They might have a other name, or specialize in other stuff

Like Mercenaries

Are usually hired for war

So a good chunk was probably recruited from outside

[gaunt burrow]

1 dialogue implies that some mercs used to be ex stalkers. In that case how come they seem to have no knowledge of bloodsuckers real name?

Mutants such as controller and bloodsucker are mentioned in campfire jokes pretty often

[broken latch]

Yeah but not everyone is the same

[gaunt burrow]

Even greenest of stalkers knows/should know about them

[broken latch]

Like the Mercenaries in cop, they are definitely ex stalkers

[broken latch]

Yeah but a lot of it may pass off to rookie as legends

To scare them off

[gaunt burrow]

If we assume that mercs who don't know about famous mutants are westerners for example it could make sense

But theres still a question of why didn't their collegues ex stalkers told them info about mutants

Clear Sky mercs don't seem professional at all. Not only they (some of them at least) don't know names of very famous mutants despite them being on an actual mission, but Hog and his mercs were also on the verge of going back to Cordon

"Heck, we're still trying to find our guys. We're not big on on stalker stuff - we try to focus on specific jobs. You could say we're independent contractors. I haven't been this deep in the Zone before. I considered myself an informed and capable fella, but I underestimated the Zone. We've had to endure so much already that our guys are on the verge of hauling ass back to the Cordon. On top of that, recently we heard a story about some real vicious mutants that can do more than control your minds - those are controllers, right? Well, these shits can even make you see things. Like, you're walking along with your friends and suddenly you see zombies all around ya. So, you start blasting left and right... Or, get this, you think you're walking along a straight road, when in fact you're just about to go off a cliff."

Plus Dark Valley mercs got wounded by Freedomers. even if they thought that Freedom members were out of ammo, it was still a sneak attack basically. At this point Freedom literally had no idea who was attacking them even:

"Shit man, what a screwup! What a rotten son of a btch that commandant! Oh that horsht he gave us about how the outpost was out of ammo. Those Freedom bastards wounded 2 of our boys!" (Had to censore some words to avoid warn)

[broken latch]

Lore is weird nonetheless

[elder laurel]

Wild territory be wilding with bandits and mercs

[potent bluff]

Hey guys, I think the black trader we saw in the trailer is an homage to Igor Khiryak, the liquidator who worked on cleaning up Chornobyl in 1986.

[granite mortar]

To be fair Bloodsuckers may be seen by many as folklore that stalkers talk about around campfires, and Mercs usually dont hang there nor do they listen to these stories

[full estuary]

There's so much else in that trailer and people talk mostly about that black dude lmao

What about why the monolith soldiers are all bald?

[potent bluff]

Highly dose of radiation

[granite mortar]

[full estuary]

In lore they didn't supply enough with alcohol to counter the radiation 🗣️

[full estuary]

I liek dis

[gaunt burrow]

Its heavily implied in 1 dialouge of Hogs mercs that some mercs used to be stalkers

In that case they should've been told about bloodsuckers at least

Like yeah they might think its a legend but they still should've known the actual names of mutants

[granite mortar]

Oh damn

[versed crypt]

Hello people

[floral leaf]

guys S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky is only $1.44 on steam, can someone gift me the game while it's still on sale

my country doesn't allow paying on any Non-Egyptian platforms srry

[versed crypt]

It is declared! The mingebag wants a clear sky!

[deft stirrup]

give the man the game

[floral leaf]

I hope bro

[pseudo rivet]

To be fair, I'd say they're professional when it comes to tactics. The tunnel system idea worked perfectly. After all, Freedom kept on losing men as soon as they walked out the base and had the entire place in lockdown and even making some if the Freedomers so desperate, they thought they had offended the Zone and tried to do some kind of ritual

Said professionalism is also why I suggested the idea of the Mercs controlling the Army Warehouses above Dead City and them controlling the bridge to Limansk, using the Miracle Machine and the bridge to prevent Stalkers from coming anywhere near them

[mild ether]

What's your steam acc?

[pseudo rivet]

After all, we know they control a small part of the Army Warehouses leading towards the Red Forest and we know they're at Limansk as well, which definitely hints at them controlling that entire part of the Zone

[gaunt burrow]

fair enough but I still think 2 mercs getting wounded by Freedomers was very sloppy

mercs basically sneaked on Freedom and still got wounded

message on the phone I wrote 5 mins ago got sent now

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, definitely. Although they figured they didn't have ammo, which was extremely sloppy. After all, nobody in the Zone would be dumb enough to have an empty gun in their hands

Like "They have no ammo" but they still carry them

And in CoP at Jupiter, they took the time to surround you

And you can't notice them on the PDA either (For gameplay reasons, obviously. They get spawned in, but still)

They were EXTREMELY sloppy with Garry, though

[gaunt burrow]

honestly I also think that CoP mercs should've discussed about important info in a place where they couldn't be eavesdropped

[pseudo rivet]

That too

[gaunt burrow]

"Some lads came here to kill me... You see, I was hiding in the bushes minding my own business when a mercenary squad showed up. Their leader was yapping away on his PDA about a central lab in Pripyat, an urgent order, this and that... Then I stepped on a stupid branch and alerted them to the fact that I was there. So I grabbed my rifle and made a run for it, but I always had the feeling that they'd come for me. That's the price we pay for eavesdropping nowadays."

[gaunt burrow]

real

[pseudo rivet]

And they had that group who went AWOL

So yeah, they're a mixed bag

[broken latch]

Sorry broski

[nova wedge]

If you pay me 400 dollars I will buy you it, sure

[gaunt burrow]

@pseudo rivet speaking of mercs, what do you think about my theory?

I always assumed that they are being hired by the remnants of the Group/people assosiated with them who want to cover their tracks or recover research.
This could be also why mercs targeted Kruglov, since him and his team were researching the psi-emitters created by the Group in the past. Some loners and Dutyers in SoC also mention that mercs have generally became more active recently, and that they seem to be focused mostly on scientists. I think that it's a reaction to the fact that the Ukrainian government began to uncover some of the Group's secrets within the project Truth
Also, Serbin and his people are wearing the scientific suits. Besides the scientists who are researching the Zone, such suits were also worn by the Group members who worked in the labs before the disaster took place, as evident by their corpses that can be found in X-18. This supports the theory that Serbin could be their representative

[drowsy schooner]

I really hope that they make it super clear that some buildings are built for protecting against emissions. Maybe now that the Zone is growing and emissions getting more common, more shelters are spread out on the map

[gaunt burrow]

Emissions in CoP happen daily, but Zone's growth is presented only in SoC

honestly, only reliable source about Zone's expansion would be C-Con Representatives words (but he also could be lying in order to convince Strelok to join them)

the rest are rumors and propaganda

[covert slate]

unless you refer to the radio transmission in Hermanns truck

your thoughts on that?

[hidden stratus]

It would not be a good idea to lie to someone who killed hundreds upon hundreds to get to them

[gaunt burrow]

S2 definitely should give us a final answer whether the Zone is actually getting bigger or not

[hazy helm]

In CoP they literally gave you a mission with a marker
It doesn't get clearer than that

[tender torrent]

has there ever been snow in stalker?

[gaunt burrow]

but in trilogy, its not really clear

[hazy helm]

Skill issue + ocular hallucination

[gaunt burrow]

for example not only no one mentions anything about Zone's growth in CoP, but Loki directly says it isn't getting bigger

[covert slate]

no, but this new map has something that might hint to snow inside some spacial anomaly, but that not comfirmed

[gaunt burrow]

In Clear Sky, Lebedev and Kalancha/Beanpolev weren't worried about Zone getting bigger, they were worrying about the possibility of regular emissions being able to cause third disaster:

"I know a lot about the Zone, but I can't share everything with you. You'll just have to trust me on some things. A system, any system, needs to be in equilibrium. The Zone is unstable right now, and this instability is increasing. If the constant emissions aren't stopped, the Zone will become so unstable that a new disaster will occur. Which brings us to what Clear Sky is doing - we're trying to prevent that disaster." - Lebedev

[pseudo rivet]

After all, the Mercs Hermann hired were recommended by one of the insiders working for them

[nova wedge]

I hope there is snow, I want to throw irradiated snowballs at friends

[pseudo rivet]

You can also throw bolts

[covert slate]

snowballs with bolts in them

[nova wedge]

Already do. I simply require more things to throw

[nova wedge]

Good idea. They will never see it coming. I will win the zone snowball fight

[covert slate]

man, when i saw them post that on their twitter with the bandit getting hit with a dirty snowball i couldn't stop laughing

[hidden stratus]

Confirming the zone’s growth could be a massive change in the series.

[pseudo rivet]

You can also throw "pineapples"

[pseudo rivet]

They already did

[gaunt burrow]

S2 will have a definitive answer in that regard

[covert slate]

aah yes, here it is https://x.com/stalker_thegame/status/1738892604140347673/photo/1

[gaunt burrow]

trilogy never had 1

[hidden stratus]

The Lore Keeper clearly just said its rumors

[pseudo rivet]

Increased by 4 KM radius

[nova wedge]

I love this art, cute

[gaunt burrow]

"Have you heard the rumor that the Zone is growing? I think it's true 'cause I've seen real scary mutants near the perimeter, ones that you could only meet near the center of the Zone before. Not good, eh?" - Random Rostok Loner

"Yeah... It seems that the ones who say that the zone is expanding are right. They spotted a few snorks in the Dark Valley, but before they never saw them there. And here some started to panic." - Description of Barkeep's "Destroy the lair of snorks in the Dark Valley" sidequest

"Well, maybe all that talk about bloodsuckers by the border of the Zone is true. But what does that have to do with the Zone growing? Just because a pack of them managed to get to the border... I guess we must have let them get through. Not surprising given that we sometimes work day and night! We're coping alright though - you don't hear people yelling "Help, we're surrounded by mutants!" outside the perimeter, do you?" - Dialogue of Random Dutyers

But that's just rumors

[pseudo rivet]

Nuh-uh, this Lore Keeper says it's HoC Canon asf

[gaunt burrow]

there's also Duty propaganda

only definitive answer about that in the trilogy given by Representative might not be truth in the first place

excluding S2 lore, neither CS nor CoP actively present idea of its growth

[pseudo rivet]

The Zone increasing DURING the events of CS, SoC and CoP are rumors and there isn't any hard evidence. Even Duty says you don't see anomalies and mutants outside the perimeter

[gaunt burrow]

exactly my point

rumors & propaganda

[hidden stratus]

😔

[gaunt burrow]

"They're idiots, that's what I think. I mean, why the hell would they want to destroy the Zone? it's not consuming precious resources or getting bigger... or anything. They could just sit there and study it to their heart's content - just think of how many scientific discoveries could be made... I mean, in the history of man-kind, no one has never been able to understand antigravitation, right? And in the Zone you've got ready-made antigravitation devices lying all over the place. It wouldn't hurt to kick their asses out of here, but it's too much hassle. By the way, don't be confused by our relations here at Yanov. We are at war... it's just that Yanov has been made neutral territory, if you know what I mean." - Loki

[pseudo rivet]

Still, I figure that, with C-Con being destroyed and Emissions appearing in CoP and daily as well, they might be telling the truth

But it's up to the new GSC to decide what exactly is the "truth"

[covert slate]

if anything there could have been yet another disaster that occured

[pseudo rivet]

Prevented by Scar the Chad

[gaunt burrow]

in fact possibility of constant emissions being able to cause another disaster is more dangerous than zones growth

[pseudo rivet]

I think it's odd how everyone in CoP treats Emissions so normally

Like, SoC didn't have Emission and they're suddenly around in CoP. Even the Military was prepared against the Emissions with Stingray

[gaunt burrow]

Lorewise SoC still has emissions no? "That's the last wave of mutants that came before the blowout. It's quiet for three or four days and then there's another wave. If not for us, there'd be no Bar, there'd be no Duty; we're the last barrier in the way of these crazy mutants. A lot of our boys met their end here." - Kitsenko

[covert slate]

yeah there's maybe two that occur in SoC

[pseudo rivet]

"Before" is such a weird word in this context

[covert slate]

besides, weren't they originally going to have emissions occur like how they do in CoP but they scrapped it before release?

[pseudo rivet]

Also, says the guy who tolerates feeding the dead Arena participants to the dogs outside of Rostok

[gaunt burrow]

[nova wedge]

Pups gotta eat

[stark plover]

Nature's garbage disposal

[pseudo rivet]

It's more a case of "Games are canon", which means that the Emissions not happening is canon as well

If you think about it, sadly enough, most of the conflicting lore comes from SoC, despite CS and CoP building on top of that

[gaunt burrow]

I'm thinking that large emissions (such as emission in Clear Sky's opening cutscene) could expend the Zone, but there isn't any confirmation and even implication that normal emissions on a smaller scale being able to make the Zone bigger

[pseudo rivet]

Burnout, but it's never implied

[tender torrent]

The emissions from the area are indeed caused by a sort of antennas numbering 5 it seems to me and that they modify the entire Noosphere.

By Anomalous

https://youtu.be/78fJZq2zTJo?si=fWg75ThuFBvtI_DH

[pseudo rivet]

Generator moment

If the manuals are canon, then the Emissions coming from the North of the CNPP is canon

But seen how the games retcon each other on some points, it's hard to say something is hard evidence

[covert slate]

it's getting late here so i gotta hop out for now, 85 days left btw

[stark plover]

It's all canon til it's not canon

[pseudo rivet]

Cya later dawg

[gaunt burrow]

yeah, if you really wanna get down to it there's no true canon in the trilogy

the lore is broken up and inconsistent

[pseudo rivet]

And HoC decides what's canon

[gaunt burrow]

cya broski

[pseudo rivet]

Uh

[tender torrent]

the effects, created by laboratories during the Soviet Cold War against the Americans. this idea was to control in such a way as to have an impactful effect on the United States during the Cold War era. In fact, we couldn't even imagine the experiences that happened even with an artificial brain in the laboratory.

[gaunt burrow]

or rather, each games having their own canon

[pseudo rivet]

There's only one way to find out, really

@nimble cipher
Are the manuals and the games canon and, if "Yes" to either of those, are there parts that we should consider to be retconned?

And now we wait

[tender torrent]

If the cannon is deactivated, would the Noosphere return to normal? and more emissions in the area?

[pseudo rivet]

Man, I'm really not interested to seen another game as "Each game is their own canon because the retcons don't make sense"

I've got that with Fallout

[pseudo rivet]

What cannon

[tender torrent]

The 5 antennas I meant

[pseudo rivet]

If we have to believe the representative, they're using the C-Con to prevent the Noosphere from destabilizing further

[pseudo rivet]

Doesn't exist

[gaunt burrow]

?

[pseudo rivet]

Generators are not officially mentioned in any of the games

[gaunt burrow]

^

exactly. we can see them but they were never mentioned

[tender torrent]

An explanation for the ghost appearance? yet explained on hallucinations because of the antennas?

it's explained in this Anomalous video

[pseudo rivet]

The only thing hinting towards their existence is in the SoC Survival Guide, but we don't know it's canon or not

[loud gate]

They are

[pseudo rivet]

But that's merely hinting

[pseudo rivet]

Ah, HoC moment. Neat-o

[loud gate]

Well, at least will be

[gaunt burrow]

everything in the trilogy is canon dawg. even different gangs of bandits fighting eachother lorewise (PDA entry about bandits in SoC)

[pseudo rivet]

There we have it

[loud gate]

Yep. The generators in the original form are back and they appear on the UE map

[pseudo rivet]

Welp, guess that's that then

[gaunt burrow]

0 mentions of generators in the trilogy

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, but HoC decides what's canon now

Like the name changes, for example

We always thought our trusty PMm was called the PMm but it was PM all along!

[loud gate]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is not just the trilogy

They are mentioned in Zenith too btw

[gaunt burrow]

Zenith isn't in the trilogy

[pseudo rivet]

What happened to "Only games are canon"

[loud gate]

But Zenith is S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

[gaunt burrow]

So is cut content, but it can't be considered as canon

[tender torrent]

Nothing to do with the trilogy I think

[loud gate]

But Zenith is canon :

[pseudo rivet]

You know what's S.T.A.L.K.E.R as well? Metro! All the reaction videos on YouTube told me so!

[gaunt burrow]

Didn't happened in the trilogy

if S2 will establish Zenith as canon fine with me, until then we can't consider it as canon

[loud gate]

How isn't S2 lore canon lmao

[mild ether]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Metro has same vibes ngl

[tender torrent]

S..T.A.L.K.E.R and Metro, any similarities?

[pseudo rivet]

Remind me on Zenith and what it is

[mild ether]

same amount of cheeki breeki

[loud gate]

Part of ARG

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, ARG canon

But what ams Zenith?

[tender torrent]

The electrical anomaly at the start of the last Trailer with Skiff made me think of the electrical anomaly in Metro Exodus

[pseudo rivet]

It's a Tesla

[loud gate]

[pseudo rivet]

At least, it should be a Tesla

[mild ether]

even the left down HUD is similar, i think stalker 2 stole the idea from the metro games

[loud gate]

It appeared in CoP too. At least something similar

[pseudo rivet]

I tried working and following it, but cut off after a while

[pseudo rivet]

Tesla asf

[mild ether]

But both games are post apocaliptic with a lot of similarities

[loud gate]

Anomalous made a video on it too recently, might want to check it out.

[pseudo rivet]

Hella

[gaunt burrow]

"Personally I've only come across a Comet and a Tesla. The former is a fireball about three feet in diameter. But I assure you, you'll feel the heat from a much greater distance... The latter is, for lack of a better description, a ball of lightning. It's definitely a ball and it's definitely electrical in nature. Both anomalies always keep moving, but usually in closed-loop paths. A careful stalker should be able to easily go around them... Just don't lose your focus." - Pilot

[tender torrent]

I think the former SOC developers who became A4 Games, and who developed Metro Exodus, came to develop Stalkers 2.

It remains a theory, but too many coincidences on the last Trailer

[gaunt burrow]

Seems like Tesla

[pseudo rivet]

GSC gave us these cards to figure out some clue, but then GSC decided to give some duders ALL the cards and thus make our cards basically useless

I've still got it here

[loud gate]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 looks like S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and Metro looks like S.T.A.L.K.E.R., don't confuse

[pseudo rivet]

Obviously. After all, why would I get rid of it?

[tender torrent]

The electrical anomaly can make you hallucinate

[pseudo rivet]

Wat

[mild ether]

Might be, i mean it's not a bad thing that they got inspiered by the Metro Games:) . I like they added that cuz i am very familiar with that specific change

[gaunt burrow]

never confirmed in the trilogy

no mentions of anomalies making you hallucinate

[pseudo rivet]

Oh, he's talking about the hecking Poltergeist

[tender torrent]

In the trilogy yes

[pseudo rivet]

Not the Tesla

[mild ether]

Only the vodka

[gaunt burrow]

proof?

[loud gate]

I don't even see what is similar lol, it looks more like a cleaned up version of CoP's HUD

With based compass instead of cringe minimap

[gaunt burrow]

give me a dialogue stating that anomalies can make you hallucinate (I'll spare you some time: there isn't any)

[pseudo rivet]

CoP HUD was better though

Ew, compass enjoyer

[tender torrent]

The 2 are different yes, but when a player has played Metro Exodus, he could say, Ah well Artyom has returned

If he never knew a stalker of course

[stark plover]

Skiff better have a sundial or navigation for me is gonna be impossible.

[pseudo rivet]

Use your PDA

Literally has a map

[stark plover]

You got me there.

[gaunt burrow]

Fellow PDA enjoyers

and bloodsucker enjoyers 💀

jk jk

[stark plover]

[tender torrent]

When a Telsa Car goes crazy and out of control

[gaunt burrow]

my brother in Christ this is NOT a stalker lore

what are you even talking about?

[gaunt burrow]

.

[mild ether]

Look at the pics in the #💬┃en_offtop

[mild ether]

Silly Artyom on the surface moment

[stark plover]

That's basically just a standard UI now for controllers. Can't get too fancy with a d-pad.

[mild ether]

I mean it's simple and practical

I like it:))

[drowsy schooner]

Ok

[drowsy schooner]

I think that they mentioned it in Clear Sky as well

[tender torrent]

I thought there was a possibility that electrical anomalies could control something, but I don't have the knowledge maybe I'm confusing it with something else

[gaunt burrow]

In Clear Sky, Lebedev and Kalancha/Beanpolev were worried about constant emissions being able to cause another disaster:

"I know a lot about the Zone, but I can't share everything with you. You'll just have to trust me on some things. A system, any system, needs to be in equilibrium. The Zone is unstable right now, and this instability is increasing. If the constant emissions aren't stopped, the Zone will become so unstable that a new disaster will occur. Which brings us to what Clear Sky is doing - we're trying to prevent that disaster." - Lebedev

"How can I best explain? Let's put it like this: any complicated system in nature, and that includes the Zone, automatically seeks equilibrium in the absence of destabilizing external factors. That was the case here in recent years - the Zone was stable and there were no significant deviations from the norm... And now? Now we've seen a gigantic emission that has changed the face of the Zone. The system became unstable, distorted... a glitch, of sorts. The Zone is spewing out emission after emission and pumping itself full of energy with each one, so much so that the readings on my sensors oscillate with unbelievable speed! And unless we find a way of reversing the trend, the result will be a disaster of far greater proportions than the 1986 catastrophe. The most important lesson in all this is that this "glitch" is not a product of natural causes. This is human handiwork..." - Professor Beanpolev/Kalancha

[rose heart]

Does anyone know will stalker 2 have mod support on Xbox

[gaunt burrow]

gameplaywise emissions in Clear Sky aren't happening daily

[drowsy schooner]

They have said yes I think

[gaunt burrow]

lorewise, 1 emission in CS happened in the opening cutscene, another when Scar got to that tower in his first mission and third one in the end

[tender torrent]

Good question

Normally yes, but still so difficult?

[silver pagoda]

SKIF! GLAD TO SEE YOU, BUDDY
LETS GET OUTTA HERE
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!
🎶 MY, MY MOTHERLAND
SO GREAT A LAND OF CHEREMOSH AND PRUT
YOU ARE MY LOVE, MY LOVE, MY MOTHERLAND* 🎶
ITS ALIVE!
SENDING YOU THE COORDINATES, HURRY UP
YOU KNOW ITS HIGH TIME FOR BIG OPPORTUNITIES
WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THIS SACRIFICE? ALL THESE VICTIMS?
THE ZONE IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE
I'VE SHOWN YOU HOW I SEE IT
WALK YOUR OWN PATH
AND YOU WILL COME TO PERCEIVE THE ZONE IN YOUR OWN WAY

[loud gate]

Thats only for controller (obviously mimics it)
The M&K is different

[gaunt burrow]

"The Zone is what you consider it to be" is such a good piece of lore ngl

[mild ether]

I mean i played the metro games on ps4 so it makes sense

[gaunt burrow]

Hermit back in Clear Sky said similar words: "The Zone is a test. The way you feel about the Zone determines what tests you'll be given. If you think it's evil, or a symbol of total freedom, or a stern "wet nurse" - it'll give you exactly what you expect from it. Personally, I see several of the Zone's guises, but for me, above all else it is a place of Power. But I haven't yet fully understood the essence of the Zone and of the Power that's in it."

[silver pagoda]

Μattboy hitting us with the heavy lore bombs today

[mild ether]

But isn't it the same HUD even tho it's on pc?

[loud gate]

No, it's been changed (the picture you sent is quite old by now and was still pretty wip)

[elder laurel]

The hell is that anomaly that makes you tripping balls and make you see blue screen in SOC

[mild ether]

I see, metro 2033 has that HUD tho

[elder laurel]

Yantar is filled with those lads after X16 exploration

[safe badge]

I wish you all a good day be well

[elder laurel]

Also in SOC which way is the fastest way to get any of the armours repaired

[gaunt burrow]

4-5 Shell artifacts, and then jump into nearest campfire

[hazy helm]

there is no way to repair armour without abusing exploits

[broken latch]

You mean features

[hazy helm]

no, I mean exploit, bc no it was never intended for it to happen

and its a misconception that it is a feature

[pseudo rivet]

I know how to repair your armor

Play CS or CoP instead

[gaunt burrow]

[pseudo rivet]

Uh, that's not an anomaly

It's explained by Professor Sakharov

[elder laurel]

Ain't gonna stop me from using it

[pseudo rivet]

Would be cool if it was though

Making Skinner Anomalies would be fun

[gaunt burrow]

man Horned Reaper is such a based guy

due to his videos about CoP stashes I manage to get all stashes

[pseudo rivet]

Only stashes that really matter are the SVDm-2 and the SVUmk-2

[gaunt burrow]

Call of Pripyat mercenaries: >WAAAAH WE HUNGRY

WORM PFOOOOOOOOOOD

[pseudo rivet]

Try snatching the laptop without being seen

[elder laurel]

Budget cuts hit the Mercs hard i see

Bullpup guns are based

Except for the bri'ish one lmfao that one sucked serious ass

[wooden girder]

On COP it kicked asses

With AP rounds it gives more damage

[pseudo rivet]

As is the case with all the other Assault Rifles

[fast stratus]

hiiiii

[naive fog]

Yo

[fast stratus]

whats up

[naive fog]

Just lying down with my cat

What bout you

[warm linden]

mrow

[timber violet]

Count Days
85 days
June 12, 2024 - September 5, 2024

I wonder if we will see something during gamescom, it'll be two weeks before release.
I'll stick to my theory before last trailer.
We saw gameplay now, and at gamescom we will see more lore-wise stuff with a teaser about factions probably.

[celest blaze]

fr that one SUCKS

[nova wedge]

I cant wait so ive found a doctor who will put me in a medically induced coma until it comes out

[celest blaze]

ayo i need that doc

[pearl olive]

heyy you got your name back

[nova wedge]

Somewhat, the mod took me a little too literally, but its fine I think its funnier this way

[pearl olive]

you mean it was supposed to be just Goopmastah and now its Just "Goopmastah" ? Yes it's 100x funnier that way lol

[granite mortar]

Jealous

[naive fog]

Lil bro does not want to get up

[tender torrent]

How long will the game last on Game Pass Xbox on release day?

[thick bolt]

||hey if I dont get a mission to find the scientist in agroprom does it mean I havent looted ghost's body correctly ||?

[granite mortar]

[thick bolt]

Ive looted his file and all

[granite mortar]

Wat?

[gaunt burrow]

Wdym? There isn't a mission about finding scientist at Agroprom in SoC

After looting Ghost's body there'll be unlocked a sidequest about meeting Guide

[thick bolt]

oh its guide my bad

[gaunt burrow]

Guide is at the Cordon

[thick bolt]

then he will lead you to agroprom

[gaunt burrow]

Its recommended to meet him and then follow that questline (its actually necessary for true ending(

First you meet Guide and then Doc

[elder laurel]

Man i have not seen Cordon ever since like my first 3 hours of this game

I miss this fatass sometimes

[nimble cipher]

macharian has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[elder laurel]

I might return to Cordon just to ruin a military checkpost on the right of the cordon village

[nova wedge]

I hope stalker two has speed dial video call for hinm

[gaunt burrow]

Based

[gaunt burrow]

Guide won't lead you anywhere (In SoC you can't fast travel)

[nimble cipher]

blazz0509 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[granite mortar]

Then aim better

[gaunt burrow]

in Clear Sky there'll be guide NPCs and you can use their services

[granite mortar]

[elder laurel]

Gotta take revenge on the military lads for making me waste my time on to get a gun that sucks arse

[gaunt burrow]

Call of Pripyat also has guides

[thick bolt]

Yes, I know alright thanks

[elder laurel]

Can't wait to see Sidorovich with an entire gaming pc setup next time we see him

And two more chicken instead of just one for him to eat

[celest blaze]

sids gonna be gaming with early RTX tech

[pearl olive]

bring me 40 series GPU from Agroprom underground.. i give you GTX1060

[celest blaze]

[deft stirrup]

DID U KNOW u can learn the spread pattern of weapons

[pearl olive]

no its not compatible with your mobo Marked One you need to see those eggheads in yantar

[deft stirrup]

like where the bullet hits on a certain weapon when u aim it

[elder laurel]

Nah

Rule of the game is starter weapons act like CS 1.6 guns in terms of bullet spread

[deft stirrup]

in CS i learned that an as val if u aim it a little bit more left of the enemy it hits them

the bullet goes a little bit to the right when u aim it down

[celest blaze]

A fun challange is taking the IL 86 to the NPP and fighting the monolith with it

[deft stirrup]

sawn off better

[celest blaze]

(You'll hit nothing and suffer greatly )

[deft stirrup]

I MEAN it does say its a weapon with a lot of downgrades

[celest blaze]

The IL 98?

I might not have read it lol

[deft stirrup]

wait

the IL is theeeeeeeeeeeee like

[nova wedge]

Dont make me think about it. sounds like torture

[deft stirrup]

i liked the gun i think its decent

i never used nato weapons but still good weapons

[gaunt burrow]

IL 86 isn't worst gun but it's not top tier gun either

[nova wedge]

yeah its pretty okay mid game fare

Im trying to remember when I dropped it

[gaunt burrow]

Idk about you guys but recently I started playing with Obokan more

[deft stirrup]

obokan is good weapon

downside no grenade launcher in SOC unless special version

[nimble cipher]

blazz0509 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[deft stirrup]

[gaunt burrow]

Finally

now there won't be people posting porn Discord links 24/7

[deft stirrup]

hot snorks in ur area

[gaunt burrow]

💀

[celest blaze]

[hazy helm]

!ban @chrome arch

[nimble cipher]

blazz0509 has been banned

Reason: Unspecified

[hazy helm]

Fucking robots

[deft stirrup]

rest in peace blazz0509

[celest blaze]

I can see the option to unban him??

[hazy helm]

Nha he ain't even got a soul

[hazy helm]

Click it

[naive fog]

[celest blaze]

No

[deft stirrup]

everyone can but it wont work

[prisma goblet]

I clicked for the science, nothing happened

[naive fog]

Good, permaban his ass

[celest blaze]

Oh phew thought discord was bugging out this is the only server I can see that kinda options

[deft stirrup]

all discord severs with bots have those

even entire music players exist

[celest blaze]

Why do people fall for porn discord links when you can Google boobs

[gaunt burrow]

good question

[elder laurel]

IL 86 is definitely better than most starter weapons

[deft stirrup]

stalker mobile gaming

[gaunt burrow]

Viper 5 > IL 86 imho

low price, easy to use, shoots fast

[deft stirrup]

interesting fact the toz 34 is in the multiplayer version of stalker SHOC but not in singleplayer

[elder laurel]

I am definitely not a big fan of the Warsaw pact weapons in SOC

[gaunt burrow]

only warsaw pact weapon in SoC I rarely used was Vintar

[deft stirrup]

aks-74 with firerate upgrades - in CS

[elder laurel]

Except for the two that i did like which is the one that acts like a machine gun lite and the long ranged ww2 sub machine gun looking arse

[celest blaze]

I like the Obokan

[gaunt burrow]

I use Vintar in Clear Sky most often but not in SoC/CoP

[deft stirrup]

no one talk about the infinite vintar glitch

[gaunt burrow]

ahhh that

infamous Forester bug

[gaunt burrow]

its good weapon

[deft stirrup]

wonder where forester keeps them

[elder laurel]

I really want that FN 2000 but the fact that the only way to get it without glitches is at the very end of the game sucks arse

[lethal orchid]

Okoban is peak

[elder laurel]

Even the G36 can be found in the red forest

[lethal orchid]

In cs it's the goat

[gaunt burrow]

FT-200M is more easily obtainable in other games

In Clear Sky it is given to you as part of a reward after lowering the bridge to Limansk and can be collected back at the Clear Sky base from Docent Suslov

[elder laurel]

Also i really really love the unique TRs 301 with a silencer and a scope

[gaunt burrow]

In CoP if you order assault rifle from Nimble you might receive FT-200M

[elder laurel]

This thing carried me till now

[deft stirrup]

gambling

they really REALLY gotta add gambling in S2 like poker or black jack

[gaunt burrow]

money isn't really an issue in CoP tbh

[elder laurel]

Also is the duty member shooting at you in the bar a glitch or what

[deft stirrup]

easiest game from the trilogy

[gaunt burrow]

real

[elder laurel]

Like Duty is definitely not friends with me anymore but the bar was mostly peaceful except for that one duty lad

[gaunt burrow]

balance is non existent in CoP

[deft stirrup]

depends if u killed someone from his squad

[elder laurel]

That kept shooting at my ass inside the bar so i can't really retaliate

[gaunt burrow]

did you killed their members? shot someone at Rostok?

[elder laurel]

And i feel like he is gonna respawn anyway so i just mostly just get out of the bar fast when he pulls up his akm

there's no duty members near the bar

[deft stirrup]

did u kill all of them

[elder laurel]

First time going back yeah

[deft stirrup]

then why u asking why theyh are hostile

[elder laurel]

But he didn't try to kill me back then so idk why now is so different

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah ngl, this sounds dumb

[elder laurel]

The fact you can't really pull your gun inside the bar is some real bs

[deft stirrup]

grenade

[pseudo rivet]

I expected better of a Grey Knight

[elder laurel]

Tried to bait him outside but he smart

[keen rune]

Is it just me or did the Steam banner for S2 change a bit?

[gaunt burrow]

you might as well reload your previous saves ngl

[deft stirrup]

i dont see why u would try to killl all dutyers at the bar when its the most important places

[elder laurel]

Also i explored the back of the bar and wow it looks real nice

[gaunt burrow]

and avoid killing Dutyers

[pseudo rivet]

Because Duty sucks, obviously

You did great, even if you didn't do it the smart way

[elder laurel]

Duty member glitched the guard lmfao

[gaunt burrow]

I mean yes but Rostok is strategically important, from there you can go to Wild Territory, Army Warehouses and Garbage

[deft stirrup]

[gaunt burrow]

so its generally not recommended to be hostile with Duty

[pseudo rivet]

That's why Freedom controls it

[elder laurel]

I can live with it

[gaunt burrow]

[elder laurel]

I always get with a bar fight every now and then when i get back to the bar

[deft stirrup]

dfsfgdsfrdsfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[elder laurel]

Now i'm with the anarchists unofficially

[pseudo rivet]

Kill Duty

[deft stirrup]

sorry i had to flip over my keyboard

[gaunt burrow]

you can actually be friendly with Freedom and Duty both

[deft stirrup]

not cool

[gaunt burrow]

even with ecologists if you'll keep completing Sakharov's sidequests

[elder laurel]

Well that killing the duty commander quest was the thing that broke my relationship with the lads

[pseudo rivet]

Exactly, I kill Duty because they're not cool

[elder laurel]

So lmfao worth it

[gaunt burrow]

makes sense

[deft stirrup]

duty is veri good

[elder laurel]

Besides it ain't Stalker if i didn't make one of the factions hate me one way or the other

[pseudo rivet]

Tell that to all the Stalkers who died because of your "oath"

[elder laurel]

Well then anyway how the hell did both gamma and anomaly overshadow the og trilogy this much

[flint grail]

Streamers

[pseudo rivet]

It didn't

At least not quality-wise

[deft stirrup]

i completely gave up on playing the mods i just wanna play S2 now

[elder laurel]

Should have streamed the slavjank masterpiece of a trilogy smth

[celest blaze]

I blame fps youtubers for hyping it up

[deft stirrup]

i dont wanna play mod jank i wanna play a REAL game

[elder laurel]

Skill issue on their part if they didn't figure out the gameplay by then

[celest blaze]

Anomaly and gamma are whatever however if ones gonna play it you should beat the og trilogy first

Call of chernobyl is better then amonaly imo

[gaunt burrow]

Anomaly is its own beast tbh

same with GAMMA

[deft stirrup]

the sidequest simulator

[pseudo rivet]

CoC completely vanilla is really ouch though

[celest blaze]

I like parts of anomaly and efp but they aren't real stalker games just platforms to mod

[pseudo rivet]

And the bullet sponginess is unreal

[elder laurel]

I thought rule of the game is to headshot always

Enemies are bullet sponges through and through no matter what

[pseudo rivet]

When possible, but it's not always needed

[deft stirrup]

i dont like either since its really just very dead no unique missions and no unique npcs its just get strong gear and do sidequests and complete the "storyline"

[celest blaze]

I wouldn't mind directly porting the og trilogy into more advanced engine but idk if that's possible

[pseudo rivet]

It's not that bad

[deft stirrup]

no

[celest blaze]

Fr it's very barbies

[elder laurel]

But that would make the slavjank trilogy not slavjank anymore

[celest blaze]

Also true tbh I modded call of chernobyl for when I'm finished the trilogy I'm excited

[elder laurel]

And that is not good

[deft stirrup]

i never experienced the jank if im honnest

[gaunt burrow]

fellas if you all won't mind, I'll go copy pasta mode (want to get XP to finally get 49th level, and then 50)

[celest blaze]

I don't mind

[elder laurel]

Golly

[pseudo rivet]

I do

I'm currently 1/8th towards Level 100

[celest blaze]

How is call of chernobyl btw ? Is it barren like anomaly ?

[pseudo rivet]

Even more barren

[celest blaze]

Damn

[deft stirrup]

its COP but feels like anomaly a little bit

[celest blaze]

Maybe I'll find some good quest mods or something

[gaunt burrow]

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT MY GOOD LUCK CHARM, REMEMBER?
ITS AN EMPTY SHELL 🐚
DECIDED TO PLAY SOLDIER?! WITH ME?!
DMYTRO AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING ABOUT A CERTAIN PUZZLE WE FOUND IN THE ZONE 🤓
BUT WE CANT QUITE SEEM TO GET ALL THE PIECES TO FIT
MAYBE YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT
IT REMINDED ME THAT WE USED TO BE PUPPETS
I TOOK JUST ONE AWKWARD STEP AND MY WHOLE WORLD PLUNGED INTO DARKNESS🗿
IM SORRY, STRIDER
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....
THAT WAS THE DAY THE PSI FIELDS WERE TURNED OFF
SUDDENLY, THE VOICE OF MONOLITH WAS GONE!
I FELT AS IF I WAS AWAKENING FROM A YEARS-LONG COMA!
AND THROUGH THE SCOPE, I SAW THE BODY OF AN UNKNOWN SOLDIER FALL 💀
WE HAVE A SIMPLE CHOICE!
SIT BACK, AND JUST WAIT FOR ANOTHER SUPER EMISSION
OR TAKE A CHANCE, AND GET CONTROL OF THE ANOMALOUS ENERGY
ONLY I DIDNT CHOOSE THAT PATH
UNLIKE YOU

[pseudo rivet]

Did I? I don't remember

[deft stirrup]

banan

[celest blaze]

Smiling strelok emoji goes hard af honestly

[loud gate]

SKIF! GLAD TO SEE YOU, BUDDY
LETS GET OUTTA HERE
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!
🎶 MY, MY MOTHERLAND
SO GREAT A LAND OF CHEREMOSH AND PRUT
YOU ARE MY LOVE, MY LOVE, MY MOTHERLAND* 🎶
ITS ALIVE!
SENDING YOU THE COORDINATES, HURRY UP
YOU KNOW ITS HIGH TIME FOR BIG OPPORTUNITIES
WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THIS SACRIFICE? ALL THESE VICTIMS?
THE ZONE IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE
I'VE SHOWN YOU HOW I SEE IT
WALK YOUR OWN PATH
AND YOU WILL COME TO PERCEIVE THE ZONE IN YOUR OWN WAY

[pseudo rivet]

"Years-long coma" is still such an amazing line, seen how it was only about a year

[deft stirrup]

melee combat in S2

[pseudo rivet]

Knoif

[gaunt burrow]

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT STALKER LORE, REMEMBER?
ITS AN EMPTY HOPE
DECIDED TO PLAY LOREMASTER?! WITH ME?!
DMYTRO AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING ABOUT A CERTAIN LORE PIECE WE FOUND IN THE ZONE
BUT WE CANT QUITE SEEM TO GET ALL THE MODS TO FIT
MAYBE YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT
IT REMINDED ME THAT WE USED TO BE ROOKIES
I TOOK JUST ONE AWKWARD IN ANOMALY, AND MY WHOLE SCREEN WENT "GAME OVER"
IM SORRY, SIDOROVICH

"Stalker @gaunt burrow, you just advanced to level 49!" POG

1 more level and I'll be Master

[nova wedge]

banany 🍌🍌

[gaunt burrow]

yeah thats very big inconsistency ngl

plus 100 Rads Bar Dutyer in SoC has dialogue saying that Monolithians went mad and started attacking stalkers just lately

[pseudo rivet]

Not exactly, because he says 'It felt", which means it doesn't have to actually be that way

But it's funny in a dumb way either way

[nova wedge]

Its also a huge inconsistency he has an American accent suddenly. The monolith brainwashing knows no bounds

[deft stirrup]

whats the deal with the accents mian

[pseudo rivet]

1 more level and I'll be... Huh, there's no role for Level 100

[gaunt burrow]

even in CoP Strider says that few years of his life were gone:

"Well... We don't remember how we got here. I remember that we were a Monolith squad... We had this burning desire to reach the center of the Zone. That's where the Monolith is - it's a meteor, that brought the beginnings of new life from other planets... I remember reaching the CNPP together... And then it's all fragmented. I remember a bright light... cosmic cold... and a clear voice... Everything was just... perfect. I don't remember what that voice ordered me to do now. Several years of my life... just gone. The boys are the same... We don't know what to do. We definitely need somewhere to take cover from emissions... and mutants, right? Do you have any ideas about where we would be safe?"

[deft stirrup]

everyone yip yapping about * boohoo the accents are trash sounds fake as hell* like i never noticed anything wrong

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, it funky

[pseudo rivet]

We want Ukrainians speaking English just like the trilogy

[gaunt burrow]

"Everyone who believes in the Monolith is completely nuts. They keep banging on about it but nobody actually knows what's in the center of the Zone. An invisible crystal that fell from the skies...ha-ha-ha! I reckon one of the secret labs blew up - I mean some stalkers used to work in a few of them. But, obviously, you can't bomb the Zone. Not only will the radiation spread all over the world, half of Europe would be flattened by the Zone's reaction. "Someone" has gone totally mad lately - I heard they're killing normal stalkers for no reason at all. How do you like that? Damn fanatics." - Dialogue of Random 100 Rads Bar Dutyer

[nova wedge]

I guess the new voices are to seem more professional and marketable to a western audience?? But it just alienates the current fanbase instead

[gaunt burrow]

Monolitihians went mad just lately in 2012 while in 2011 they were already hostile to everyone

[pseudo rivet]

Doesn't mean the Military didn't try to nuke the CNPP, though

[deft stirrup]

look ive played stalker since i was a child even my father played the game and rn im a teenager i basically aged my whole life to this moment of S2 releasing and i dont give a single crap about the accents since thats such a little thing to worry about i think we shouldnt complain and just enjoy the game- when it releases

[gaunt burrow]

yeah they did try but honestly its such a horrible idea lol

[pseudo rivet]

This refers to the "Wish Granter", not the faction itself

[nova wedge]

Yeah thats true, at the end of the day I dont care what they sound like as long as the game is good

[gaunt burrow]

I always interpreted that as him talking about Monolithians

plus in the end he did say "Damn fanatics"

[pseudo rivet]

Someone is definitely hinting towards the Monolithians though, yeah

But to say that they've gone made lately is just not accurate. I assume it's someone new to the Zone who just heard about them

[gaunt burrow]

That would make sense

[elder laurel]

Depending on the status of the guy you talked to

Aka the duty guy that kept shooting at me inside the bar

[pseudo rivet]

Dialogue is shared, no matter their experience

[elder laurel]

Yeah dialogue repeats

[icy prism]

#📰┃announcement message

@glossy blade , regarding the soundtrack that plays in the background of the little video of the electrical anomaly, do you plan to share the soundtrack with the audience, as you have done in other situations?
This song has deadly drip ❤️

[nimble cipher]

markedmatt has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gaunt burrow]

really Wolf?

@pseudo rivet noticed another inconsistency? Strelok in Call of Pripyat, saying that Fang was killed by mercs, while Ghost said that there was only 1 merc

Strelok:

"Thank you... Ghost and Fang were my friends... Together we managed to get past the Scorcher and reach the CNPP. Unfortunately, they both died. After our return, we parted company - I was wounded and stayed with the Doctor at the swamps. I didn't see them again... It wasn't until much later that I had learned that Fang was killed by mercs and Ghost died because he trusted the scientists... Anyway, that's the past... Now I know what needs to be done to make sure that my friends did not die in vain."

Ghost's message in detailed description of "Find out what happened to Ghost" task:

"Strelok, I have some sh*tty news. Fang died. They were waiting for us in the village by the warehouses, and I think they were waiting a long time. Three of them. Seems like your average neutrals. Fang sensed them somehow. You know full well he has a good sense. We ran two of the down - clearly bandits - but the third turned out smarter than his buddies. He was sitting with Vintar about 100 meters away. Anyway, there's no more Fang. So next time we'll go to the center together, just the two of us. And here's another thing: those two had our descriptions. I can't figure out who would want us killed, although actually there are quite a few who have something against us. I let the third one get away - I think it was one of the mercs. Had a big scar on his face. Hazel eyes. I'll try to find him. So that's the deal. Keep an eye out and good luck. Ghost"

[versed crypt]

OMG the walls of text here are worse than the one's in Pathologic

[gaunt burrow]

sorry for walls of text man, I just like providing proofs that's all

[versed crypt]

Real

[gaunt burrow]

I would just post screenshots here but don't have access

so I'm sticking to copypasta-ing dialogues

[versed crypt]

Do you just rewrite the entire conversations?

Where do you get the texts from?

[gaunt burrow]

My own Reddit posts

I copy paste them from there

[celest blaze]

Based honestly

[versed crypt]

Lmao

I got to go

[gaunt burrow]

cya bro

[versed crypt]

Byi

[solid dome]

Oye

[deft stirrup]

one stalk man

[wooden girder]

Normal rounds it gives good damage too

[finite dragon]

Does anybody know if the SIGEROUS(SGM) STALKER MOD have a discord.

[sand fiber]

No, it doesn't

Your best bet is asking around C-con

[finite dragon]

That sucks thx though

[deft stirrup]

pew pew

[sour acorn]

I'm afraid for optimization, I read reviews after the sgf demo, they say the FPS is sagging

[loud gate]

Game is still in development

[sand fiber]

expect the worst

[sour acorn]

I hope they fix the optimization in 3 months

[loud gate]

but a game this scale is bound to have optimisation issues even at launch, it's not something that is going to be perfect.

[deft stirrup]

brother why u that scared

[celest blaze]

I'm sure it'll be tbh it's going on consoles afterall

[pearl olive]

we've only had years to prepare!

[pseudo rivet]

Yeah, that's a commonly known mistake

[loud gate]

Don't expect incredibly low fps though
Perf. will probably good, and improved down the line

[celest blaze]

If a xbox can run it your pc should be able to without issue

[pseudo rivet]

My PC won't be expecting any FPS whatsoever

[deft stirrup]

I STILL DONT KNOW IF THE RX 7900 IS BETTER THEN AN RTX 4060

[pearl olive]

how hard is it to compare specs?

[flint grail]

https://tweakers.net/reviews/12184/stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-sfeervol-maar-ook-een-beetje-ouderwets.html

For those wondering this review has a pretty decent overview from SGF demo

[celest blaze]

I'd compare specs tbh id go for amd out of those 2

[sand fiber]

it is lmfao

[sand fiber]

7900 is literally top-of-the-line

[celest blaze]

I'd save and go for a 4080 super or 4090 tbh

[sand fiber]

do not

[sour acorn]

I've been waiting for the game since the announcement and I don't want to get a bad feeling from the game because of the low fps

[celest blaze]

I have a 4070ti but wanna go to AMD due to 20 gigs of vram

[flint grail]

Depending on what you have now just hold for a little longer and hope when the 50 series drops the prices do as well for the older cards

[sand fiber]

you compare the gpus by googling 7900vs4060 and watch the videos, what card has the higher fps is the best

[celest blaze]

True good point there

[flint grail]

Also unless Nvidia contiunes their streak of just surviving off of their name I would imagine the 50 Series cards would see a large Vram boost vs the 40 series but idk its Nvidia so we probably be dissapointed and sad until we finally just give in and go over to AMD

[deft stirrup]

thing is a 4090 costs as much as the whole build x3

and the build is pretty chonky

[pearl olive]

Yea 4090 is gd ridiculous.. we sent back two of the 20GB radeons because they were crap and our budget tripled going with 4090s lol

[sand fiber]

strykeface sent you an improved build yesterday

[pearl olive]

the 20GB radeons are a steal if you can get them working

[granite mortar]

Never

[deft stirrup]

found it again

[flint grail]

Stalker 2 ray tracing looks pretty sweet and thats the only thing keeping me towards Nvidia on my next upgrade just because AMD still struggles in that department

[deft stirrup]

keep in mind it MIGHT be captured on a console so on pc it would be like x2 betur

[mint cave]

dos anyone know how to tab out of stalker 1 when you have multiple monitors?

[deft stirrup]

alt tab

[mint cave]

tried but doesnt work for me

[deft stirrup]

u just gotta do it better

[loud gate]

It's obviously captured on a PC

[deft stirrup]

but like the pda looks like its from a console

[flint grail]

Try switching to borderless mode and pause, scroll off screen

[granite mortar]

It doesnt really struggle
They are just a bit behind

[loud gate]

Yes, it's PC footage taken using a controller.

[flint grail]

True I guess struggle was a bit harsh to say

[deft stirrup]

shiaaaaaaaaaaaat

[granite mortar]

And when you consider the price of AMD gpus the difference is even smaller

[deft stirrup]

nvm wrong person

[deft stirrup]

keep spamming alt tab till it works

[flint grail]

Oh for sure especially if you look into the VRAM difference at price points

[granite mortar]

Yeah

And S2 with RT will be hell to run anyways so I personally wouldnt even take it as factor for gpu choice

[mint cave]

seems to have actually worked, thank you

[flint grail]

I've been building PCs for nearly 20 years and I have always been Nvidia/Intel so my question for the AMD cats is has anyone done AMD gpu with Intel CPU and how did they feel about it? I have read a bunch but I am just curious for what the homies think

[mint cave]

mental, i jsut saw the dynamic lighting settings. no idea games this old had dynamic lighting

[granite mortar]

AMD for the win

[sour acorn]

Will 3060 at maximum settings with dlss run the game?

[flint grail]

The best anyone can tell you is just look at recommended specs, until its released there will be no official answer for how well anything will perform for S2

[deft stirrup]

recommended specs outdated

[deft stirrup]

maximum i doubttttttttttttt

[flint grail]

Still until its released there's nothing we can do but speculate and look at comparisons from other games that are running UE5

[deft stirrup]

u would run it pretty high but not MAX MAX

[flint grail]

Maybe in 720p

[tepid ibex]

I hope to squeeze out at least 20fps on minimal 😭

[deft stirrup]

there is always gonna be something better

[sour acorn]

ok

[sour acorn]

...

[flint grail]

Just foolin bud, if you have a 3060 you're doing better than a decent amount of the S2 population from what I have seen. Regardless of the graphical fidelity you get just enjoy the ride when it comes out

[granite mortar]

Maybe
But isnt running DLSS on max details a bit contra-productive?

[sour acorn]

I know bro

I just expect better

[flint grail]

I feel it🫂

[mint cave]

how difference of an experience is stalker gamma to vanilla stalker call of Pripyat?

[granite mortar]

CoP is fun

[flint grail]

The most tame goldsphere shill comment when Gamma is brought up

[granite mortar]

Yes

We got (hopefully) new Shill today so I have to be nice

[deft stirrup]

like a l ot

[deft stirrup]

gamma is a modpack of a mod call of pripyat is a goated game

[granite mortar]

But
If you want more details
CoP has better quest design, better story, gives you real goal to go after, has better rewarded exploration, more fun gameplay, is alot smaller and generally lot better put together

[deft stirrup]

gamma the modpack just enchances what is anomaly just gameplay nothing surreal just survive complete "storylines" side quests that are all the same nothing unique just a sandbox ORRRR play Call of pripyat and have the greatest time of ur life

[granite mortar]

"enhances"

[mint cave]

think ill jsut paly stalker gamma when i eventualy get to playing call of pripyat

[deft stirrup]

dont

[granite mortar]

You mean makes it even worse than it already is by making every task even more miserable and boring

[granite mortar]

No
Gamma isnt even stalker

[deft stirrup]

just dont it will RUIN all ur expectations for the original games

[granite mortar]

Its cheap Tarkov knockoff made from stolen assets

[mint cave]

looks liek its got pretty textures though

and i like the look of stalker gamma logo

[granite mortar]

If textures are your main interest then theres no helping you honestly

[deft stirrup]

if u just care about looks and no story no real characters nothing else other then gameplay and graphics thats anomaly for you

[granite mortar]

Theres nothing we can do

[mint cave]

i think gamma looks more up to date tbh

[granite mortar]

Its not

[deft stirrup]

rage bait

[pearl olive]

the logo has nice color i will agree

[granite mortar]

Again
If looks are all tha matter then theres no helping you
Sure go play gamma, but dont call yourself a stalker fan

[flint grail]

Ahhh theres the shill

[granite mortar]

Yes
Hello

[flint grail]

I guess that sounded mean I didn't mean it to be it was more so I live for seeing you shoot down gamma dreams it makes me happy

[mint cave]

from the gameplay ive seen it looks the same as vanilla jsut prettier

[deft stirrup]

ur literally rage baiting man

[granite mortar]

No
Its slow, boring and everything takes 20 times longer than it needs to
Its just Tarkov built on Stalker because its cheaper to do

[deft stirrup]

stop playing a fool

[deft stirrup]

dont even bother with him he just rage baiting at this point its so obvious

[mint cave]

ive never played stalker before now, im trying ot get into it. im jsut saying how i see things man. not that deep

[pearl olive]

all 'its not stalker' comments aside - gamma is SUPER easy.. like minecraft easy

[granite mortar]

Anyways Im done here
See ya later

[deft stirrup]

if u wanna get into stalker PLAY THE FIRST STALKER GAME

[mint cave]

im playing it first, tho need to find some good mods to make it more up to date

[granite mortar]

[mint cave]

going to use a few unofficial patches

[sand fiber]

you don't need any

[deft stirrup]

u dont really

[granite mortar]

For love of God just play the first game

[pearl olive]

ZRP is about all you need

[mint cave]

ye i am

[deft stirrup]

if u really wanna mod the game check Can't Game Right's channel hot chocolate analogy

[granite mortar]

You play the trilogy
Then jump into mods

If you want good mods that arent just Tarkov lite ping me anytime

Or go to pinned messages in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[mint cave]

dont have time to replay it. want to jsut experience what looks cool

[deft stirrup]

then play a cooler game

[sand fiber]

gamma is a total conversion, there's no "modular" modding in stalker, every mod is its own game

[flint grail]

If you don't play the original trilogy first or do any form of research and just jump into Gamma you are just going to be confused

[pearl olive]

this is Bkenny with another username 'i just like playing modded games guys'

[granite mortar]

Try Secrets of Cordon
Its good, modern mod with nice story and high production value

[deft stirrup]

dont call urself a stalker fan as goldsphere shill said just play gamma in the dark and quiet

[granite mortar]

Damn I pinged wrong message

[sand fiber]

stop bullying people who have no idea what they're getting into oh my god

[mint cave]

i jsut bought the game man calm down

[deft stirrup]

which game

[granite mortar]

Everyone shut up

[mint cave]

all of them

[deft stirrup]

then play themmmm

simple easy enjoyable great time for the whole family

[mint cave]

i am but im going to heavily mod them. need to make them better

[granite mortar]

Good
Go play them
Once you are done ping me and Ill help you get some mods to your liking

[true sinew]

did you guys ever go inside army warehouse as a duty soldier to try and assassinate one duty traitor but on the other side ends up a 10 person freedom squad (all with exo skeletons) and a controller from afar making the gunfight unbearable

[deft stirrup]

u see content makers roles watch Can't Game Right's videos there is some things he recommends for first comers

[granite mortar]

In which game?

[sand fiber]

😭

[pearl olive]

he's just trying to enrage you lol

[true sinew]

anomaly

[granite mortar]

[deft stirrup]

thats what i was saying

[granite mortar]

Im disappointed and my day is ruined

[flint grail]

Someone needs to make a bingo card for this chat because I really feel like I read the same cycle of events every week

[deft stirrup]

n o

[pearl olive]

@flint grail what you think an artifact tastes like?

[true sinew]

what?

[granite mortar]

Could be cool if we got some sort of bot to watch over the chat to see if we got it right

[true sinew]

I like anomaly because it lets me larp as clear sky/ecologist and sin

[granite mortar]

Anomaly just isnt good
Anyways, no
It did not happen

[flint grail]

Last time this was asked looks like may 31st

[mint cave]

i need to make a bingo card for every time ive joined a public discord server and seen someone say they need a bingo card for things newcomers have said / asked

[granite mortar]

Sin in Anomaly is....
Ehhh
Monolith but dark clothes

[sand fiber]

it really is the same cycle

1. someone comes to the server
2. asks for modding/playthrough advice
3. gets overwhelmed with garbage information
4. leaves
   REPEAT

[true sinew]

i like dwelling in mineshafts

[granite mortar]

Can you stop arguing and go play the damn game?

[mint cave]

im not arguing???

[granite mortar]

You do you

[granite mortar]

Good
Thats step one done
Now play the game

[flint grail]

Nothing wrong with you or any other newcomer my man it's my daily entertainment to watch it all happen. I usually just lurk from the shadows and witness it go down

[mint cave]

thats another one for the bingo. claiming they dont talk much in chat whislt actively talking in chat

[pearl olive]

my favorite one is ' which stalker should i play first?' Do these people watch sequels and wonder why they're so confused?

[granite mortar]

Please I beg you
Just play the game 😭

[deft stirrup]

is really hard to understand first game is first second game is second and third game is third

each has their own release date u can tell by the year first 2007 second 2008 third 2009

[granite mortar]

I just looked it up and renamed the exes to 1,2 and 3 respectively

[pearl olive]

actualllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy if you look at the time lines..........

[deft stirrup]

time of creation*

[pearl olive]

you should be playing CS and SOC simultaneously

[granite mortar]

@wild wharf hes stealing your job

[pearl olive]

we should start telling people to play SOC up until the brain scorcher, then pick up CS, then go back to SOC until CNPP.. etc

[granite mortar]

Real

CoP first and after each helicopter you switch to different difficulty in SoC

[deft stirrup]

i have an idea just play stalker multiplayer

[granite mortar]

Never!

[flint grail]

based

[pearl olive]

send me one that works hahaha and i will play it

[deft stirrup]

ive played many

[pearl olive]

shadow of co-op is broken asf, belarus was fun for a few hours.. after that idk

ray of hope will never happen

[deft stirrup]

no like network game

[flint grail]

sad

[deft stirrup]

im actually the assistant of shadow of co op lol

[flint grail]

Now that that guy called me out for not properly lurking I can never go back to lurking

[pearl olive]

yea i've used some of your posts in arcanum to help @deft stirrup I could just never get it working correctly.. but i also have the sneaking suspicion my friend did NOT put it on an SSD and is playing from program files

[deft stirrup]

have u? maybe u did i sort of remember

[pearl olive]

i just read through them

but they helped.. until everything exploded

[deft stirrup]

i never got to actually play it cus none of my friends wanted to play

id say its good for what it is for like 1 guy working on it its ok

[pearl olive]

oh 100%

[deft stirrup]

problem is i dont know when they will ever update it

and shadow of co op is as less as popular as it has ever been

i doubt most people care about modding/modded stalker engines/overall modding commuinity with the whole S2

[jolly thicket]

Hello everjuan

Pyro is in ze hizauws

[deft stirrup]

banan

[pearl olive]

still on that road ... to the north??

[jolly thicket]

Yes

[granite mortar]

Based

[jolly thicket]

Im just stuck in a fire fight with garbage bandits

[granite mortar]

Poor bandoots

[jolly thicket]

Idk but im starting to focus more on fallout new vegas for now

[pearl olive]

don't worry... after you kill them.. you have about 5 mins until 20 more respawn @jolly thicket

[jolly thicket]

So i randomly decided to go to the radar

And found this games equivelant of walking zombies

Man they got some serious cardio

Theyre actually threatening in this mod

[granite mortar]

RTTN on top

[jolly thicket]

Does anyone have that meme where strelok asks the wish granter for adidas track suit?

[granite mortar]

No but it shouldnt be that hard to find

Pretty sure its in like 3 out of 10 stalker meme compilations that exist on youtube

[jolly thicket]

Guess ill just edit it out myself

[granite mortar]

Yeah

[deft stirrup]

i have it

[jolly thicket]

Please dm it to me

[deft stirrup]

i d i d

[warm linden]

what if and hear me out, what if I converted my gamma into slop

[azure dock]

I've noticed we still can't preorder the game on Xbox. What gives?

[warm linden]

I do not recommend pre ordering

Just, any game in general, it's good to wait

[loud gate]

Very soon

[granite mortar]

So if I understand correctly

You want to convert gamma..
Into gamma?

[warm linden]

No, I want to make gamma worse, hack into all of groks account and shill it as true stalker 3

[granite mortar]

Where True Stalker 2 tho?

[warm linden]

the gamma I will create will be so good that stalker 2 doesn't need to be made, just give me both OP 2.2 and Goldsphere, I'll make a masterpiece

[granite mortar]

Damn

Dass crazy

[warm linden]

eepy time

[silver pagoda]

SKIF! GLAD TO SEE YOU, BUDDY
LETS GET OUTTA HERE
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!
🎶 MY, MY MOTHERLAND
SO GREAT A LAND OF CHEREMOSH AND PRUT
YOU ARE MY LOVE, MY LOVE, MY MOTHERLAND* 🎶
ITS ALIVE!
SENDING YOU THE COORDINATES, HURRY UP
YOU KNOW ITS HIGH TIME FOR BIG OPPORTUNITIES
WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THIS SACRIFICE? ALL THESE VICTIMS?
THE ZONE IS WHAT YOU CONSIDER IT TO BE
I'VE SHOWN YOU HOW I SEE IT
WALK YOUR OWN PATH
AND YOU WILL COME TO PERCEIVE THE ZONE IN YOUR OWN WAY

[naive fog]

[indigo marsh]

Who? And what are they shilling?

[granite mortar]

Rando might become RTTN Shill

[indigo marsh]

If I didn't like my username that much I might have become a shill for a GOOD stalker mod

[indigo marsh]

Stalker is not post apocalyptic and a couple devs for stalker left and made 4A games which made metro

The world outside the zone is minimal affected by the conditions of the zone

[elder laurel]

Well i bet the world is somehow affected by the zone considering just how many artifacts it somehow gets smuggled out of officially and unofficially

[primal current]

Random question: whats the general consensus on the complete 2009 mod

[elder laurel]

That and the relations between Ukraine and Russia i imagine would be alot more uhhh complicated to say the least

[gaunt burrow]

I mean lorewise artifacts do generate anomalies

"Useful? Useful in our line of work means something that's gonna help you stay alive. That, or something that's gonna make your enemy dead. I'll tell you about artifacts. What's an artifact? It's a cluster of anomalous energy, kinda like a stock cube. There's also artifacts that can...err...what's that damn word...ah, right...ge-ne-ra-te anomalies! I think that's how Chekhov says it. Anyway, only problem is, once the artifact generates an anomaly it's as good as useless. The anomaly itself ain't exactly powerful nor does it last long, but it's good enough to delay someone or knock 'em off your trail altogether" - Yar's dialogue in Clear Sky

and we got mentions of outside world being full of the Zone's trinkets

[elder laurel]

Mercs bandits and loners more or less give their life just to get some artifacts to smuggle out of the zone

That and considering the UNISG used to be a thing before it got scrapped

[gaunt burrow]

"That's the sort of people we are! You can't buy an extra fifteen minutes of life or a spare store from death, but us traders are needed everywhere. Even in the Zone, even in the Swamps and even underground. It's an illusion that the Zone is under lock and key and the army has all the ways in and out sealed. Think about it, nowadays artifacts and rare specimens from the Zone can be found all over the world, and your fellow stalkers never have a shortage of canned meat, vodka, ammo or equipment - somebody's gotta be responsible for all that, right? Well, that's where we come in. In this place it ain't like selling bootleg CDs on the outside with the cops up your ass every damn day! Around here the situation is very simple: the outside world has an interest in the Zone and vice versa, but it's officially forbidden, prohibited and all that bullsh*t! That's what we're here for... we make sure those interests are satisfied, and everybody's happy. There's a joke among traders that if someone points a gun at you, your best bet is to try to buy it off them!" - Docent Suslov

[elder laurel]

The whole world more or less likely knows shout the zone

[gaunt burrow]

yes, the Zone's existence is no secret by any means

You can talk to Major Khaletsky for the second time after "Talk to Khaletsky" mission. He can give a very interesting dialogue and a bit of insight about that subject:

"Think you're funny? Man, if we were talking under different circumstances I would give you a different answer... I am tired of this shit, buddy... The guys I started out with in the military have all got their shiny stars and decent outfits to run in better places than this. You think I've got nothing better to do than chase people like you around the Zone? I've had enough of this - this shithole, the friggin' Zone, the bastard stalkers, and that Sidorovich cocksucker... and let's not forget the mutants... we lay down our lives to stop them but they just keep on coming. And everyone on the outside just goes on and on about how "We have to protect the world from the horrors of the Zone" and "We won't let it happen"... Generals, those morons on TV... you could drown in their bullshit. And how many of these top brass have ever been on a raid in this place, crawling on their damn bellies in between anomalies, huh? How many of those lazy sons of bitches have cleared a sector or spent a day chasing stalkers through the Swamps? Those bastards are always using the army to plug the messiest holes!"

[elder laurel]

Kinda hard to when mercs and such are literal foreigners trynna scrape stuff in the zone

[gaunt burrow]

not all mercs are foreigners

[elder laurel]

Stories about the shenanigans prob went about one way or the other

[gaunt burrow]

their dialogue in Clear Sky implies that some of them used to be stalkers in the past

Hogs mercs also mention a mercenary code: "Leshiy's group completed a really important assignment right before the Emission - they found a very rare artifact. We even contacted the client to let him know the goods are on their way, but Leshiy never made it back. We're mercenaries and we got a code - without it we're nothing. A contract must be executed. Period. If we screw up a job that's our reputation down the toilet, and no serious client will ever give us work again! That'd leave us wandering the Zone as stalkers again."

[elder laurel]

Is everybody in the zone that isn't a ecologist or army a stalker

[pearl olive]

there's the 'illegals' that are somehow different than the stalkers

[gaunt burrow]

Loners are generally engaged in stalking - exploring the Zone, collecting artifacts, etc. They are the definition of the term 'stalker'. while Bandits, on the other hand, shouldn't be seen as stalkers at all; they aren't involved in stalking, they prey on stalkers

[elder laurel]

Racism lore

Bandits are something else

[gaunt burrow]

Freedom and even Duty for example do collect artifacts

so you can consider them as stalkers. in fact many freedomers and dutyers used to be stalkers in the past

Dark Valley Freedomers in Clear Sky:

"I try to pull artifacts out of anomalies and stay alive while doing it"

Another dialogue:

"Everything a stalker can do: search for loot, kill mutants and party with my buddies at the base when I get an extra coin. Sometimes I bury friends, when there's enough of them left to bury."

And in a conversation with Duty leader Krylov Scar mentions "But you use artifacts yourselves, don't you?" to which Krylov will reply with this: "They say war is a no-holds-barred kind of deal. I don't see anything wrong with using the enemy's resources against him. I mean, we don't collect these for our personal gain, do we? An average artifact is worth two or three new guns and some ammo to boot, and three guns are worth a dozen dead mutants a day..."

[celest goblet]

Overall kinda meh on it. It makes more gameplay tweaks than it suggests at first, but it doesn't hugely depart from vanilla. Would probably just play with ZRP first

[broken latch]

Both are mid

[sacred steppe]

as someone who's never even touched stalker (but have been interested in the lore for some time) do you think it's worth starting from the beginning or waiting for the the new one?

[deft stirrup]

beggining

[sacred steppe]

that was quick 😂

aight fair enough I'll do that

[deft stirrup]

play shadow of chernobyl clear sky then call of pripyat

[broken latch]

Most definitely start with the trilogy

It will make s2 even more fun to explore

[sacred steppe]

that is actually a very good point

[covert slate]

you won't be disappointed, and if anyone ever tells you to just play the mods instead laugh it off

[broken latch]

Mods can be fun additions but for first time playthroughs are highly unrecommended

Mods are like fanficition, it's there in case you want more

[granite mortar]

Trilogy first, otherwise you will be confused playing anything else stalker related, not fun experience

[covert slate]

i still can't believe someone playing gamma thought the miracle machine was something to disable in settings

[exotic mural]

Just beat Shadow Of Chernobyl and got the blind ending because I thought The Guide was some side quest I grabbed

[granite mortar]

The what?!

[exotic mural]

Whoops

[granite mortar]

Happens

[covert slate]

#🤨┃stalker_memes message

[exotic mural]

I'll play Clear Sky and Call Of Pripyat and then replay Shadow Of Chernobyl

[granite mortar]

Blind is best of the bad endings so...
Yeah, could be worse

[granite mortar]

Based
So .fucking zased

[exotic mural]

I would rather be crushed by a nuclear reactor than be blind and lost in one

Dude my suit broke as soon as I entered chernobyl, so I had to reload my save and run to buy another seva before retry

It turns out that you physically can't survive long enough to get to the monolith without rad protection or a billion meds

[granite mortar]

I might have explanation for this but it contains spoilers for true ending

[nimble cipher]

b18c5 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[granite mortar]

Get Wolf'd

[exotic mural]

WHAAAAAAAAAT

[broken latch]

Cnpp is full of suits lol

[granite mortar]

Yeah
Its almost like Monolith has secret fashion shows

[celest blaze]

They deff do tbh

[exotic mural]

My first time through i fought most of the enemies but my 2nd time I just sprinted in

[granite mortar]

Based