⭐┃trilogy-general

[torpid rapids]

Does anyone know where you sell mutant parts in SoC

[lunar tusk]

The mobile lab in yantar

[torpid rapids]

Thanks bro

[light shuttle]

one of the first concepts of the A-Life was that the stalkers can finish the game without any intervention of the player and they can take documents and make the whatever they want with the documents.

[late condor]

regular stalkers should buy them

[lunar tusk]

It might be random because when Ive tried to sell them to random stalkers, they havent bought them

[torpid rapids]

Perfect looks like most stalkers buy them. Does the scientist pay more?

[fast salmon]

butcher should also buy them

[trail osprey]

Duty and freedom are both lame

Liberals vs larpers lmao

[late condor]

Is that bar OOB?

The secret NPC offline travel area?

[karmic horizon]

Yes, I have always called it the "Twilight Zone".
The areas of the game, where NPCs and mutants travel
but are not intended for the Player to go to those places.
Red shows Player area. Green dotted lines are travel paths.

That's the great thing about SoC. Half the levels have some areas like this.
Of course, Rostok has the greatest. GSC needed a way for NPCs to go around it.

Once you learn and understand it, you can make great things happen. No Mods needed.

[sour crow]

hi, wanted to ask if anyone remember a fanatic on the first cutscene of SOC, and so if there is possibility for him to be added somewhere as he is actually one that made SOC as it was 🙂 #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[late condor]

A fanatic?

I’ve seen mods adding the intro dude as a character, you can probably steal the model and add him into base SoC if that’s what you want

[trail osprey]

I reallly cant decide if i should join duty or freedom

I like duty more but the freedom guys are so chill and i dont know what ill be locking myself out of from either side

[late condor]

In CS?

You don’t really have to choose, you can complete FW as both.

[trail osprey]

Soc

[late condor]

There isn’t a way to join factions in SoC, don’t stress it. If you just mean who you support in quests, you can get both factions friendly

[graceful horizon]

-# I typed in the wrong chat

[lunar tusk]

I followed an achievement guide for SoC that said you can join duty after a few side missions which gets you a unique sniper and would turn freedom hostile permanently, but it never happened and duty just turned friendly.

Makes me think if the guide writer forgot he had a mod for it, or if there's just wrong info floating around

[late condor]

Probably both, joining Duty is often added in mods.

Some peopel may confuse joining the faction with just turning one friendly and another hostile.

[lunar tusk]

I guess he probably did some mission for duty that required killing freedom dudes, which then made freedom hostile and he just assumed it was because he "joined" duty

Or the mod thing

[torpid rapids]

That’s awesome. I did not know about this.

[junior root]

I jus beat call of pripyat 🎉 I actually enjoyed the game a lot

[leaden zodiac]

You made the right choice.

[sour crow]

anyone up for #🔩┃trilogy_modifications

[fast salmon]

Call of pripyat has the best map design if im honest outskirts is awesome while SoC has great maps mainly just prip and garbage all 3 maps in CoP are goated

i think CS only really has Red forest coz limansk is a shit show

[light shuttle]

Zaton and Jupiter are too big, Zaton has good locations and Jupiter well, has Jupiter.

[light shuttle]

what a shame that Red Forest only is an map of 80 square meters.

[late condor]

Zaton and Jupiter are pretty boring compared to e.g. CS swamps

[torpid rapids]

In SoC can you help freedom takeover the bar?

[light shuttle]

Specially Zaton, Jupiter has "oppresive ambient".

[late condor]

No

[torpid rapids]

Oh but I can take over army base with duty. Lame

[late condor]

It’s temporary, they kill everyone and go back, they never stay to occupy the base and freedom eventually reclaims it

[torpid rapids]

Oh it’s been a long time since I did that. I thought a squad stayed inside but oh well

[light shuttle]

Yeah, i killed every dutyer on my last vanilla playthrought of SoC and just, the dutyers come back in a couple of days in-game.

[kind mica]

What trilogy general for???

[lunar tusk]

I just finished 100% achievements for SoC yesterday and I started on CS today, and I was thinking exactly the opposite that the swamp is incredibly boring with just flat terrain and bushes/reeds everywhere

Coupled with the repetitive faction warfare missions that take place there before you're allowed to leave, I can imagine it being the sole reason why CS got worse reviews than the other trilogy games

[humble crescent]

Faction war is actually cool, but it's bugged af, and nu-GSC seems to be too incompetent to fix it

[torpid rapids]

You’d think they would’ve done something to fix it prior to releasing the EE titles but noooo

[stark narwhal]

Hi running CoP OG Gunslinger... Is there out any mod that add water reflections like in EE?

[graceful horizon]

You can get faction wars to work. It's just fragile so you need to handle it with care

[humble crescent]

Faction war for bandits feels like an endless marathon. You just run here and there all the time. Stalkers and duty zerg rush the Garbage from two directions non-stop. EE version requires you to control all the Garbage for some stupid reason. No AP bullets from trader till you get control over it. If you aren't prepared, you're cooked. If you are prepared, you can't win anyways, because you need 3 ally squads on the enemy base to stop stalker counterattacks, but bandits start to attack other insignificant targets after the first squad takes the base. I won faction war for Freedom without issues. I just needed freedom exoskeleton to make screenshots of upgrades to report the bugs. But bandit faction war is broken af

[graceful horizon]

It's easier to first complete the freedom faction war and occupy the duty base with them. Then duty won't bother you while you duke it out with the loners

[humble crescent]

Bandits attack freedom all the time and ruin my progress. Freedom has surprisingly low resource level and they sometimes can't handle the bandits themselves

[graceful horizon]

It takes some time, but eventually freedom will gain enough speed to put the bandits in their place. If you just wait next to the duty base to block their spawns they will eventually show up in agroprom(if they don't get into any stalemates with bugged squads)

[static spear]

I have a question about SoC artifacts
Is the mechanic that I need a artifact that does +5 radiation + bullet protection and a artifact that does -5 radiation + something else ? Because it's stupid if i have to take anti rad meds all the time

[prime rapids]

in SoC there's three artifacts that absorb radiation

you need to either pair them, or you'll have to keep taking antirads

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Artifacts_in_Shadow_of_Chernobyl

[graceful horizon]

Yes

[static spear]

I see so it's basically 2 puzzle pieces that need to fit

Btw is it possible to equip 2 main weapons or is it only 1 big weapon and a pistol

[graceful horizon]

The latter

[static spear]

Aww man, sucks

Btw do bloodsuckers actually drop something or is it worth it to kill them? (Just killed my very first one)

[graceful horizon]

They can drop bloodsucker tentacles, which some traders can offer fetch-missions for

[static spear]

Ah ok

[graceful horizon]

Not a guaranteed drop though

[torpid rapids]

i have a question

im playing the original stalker game

and i dont really know how to proceed in this section

[leaden zodiac]

Shadow of chernobyl?

[torpid rapids]

yeah

[leaden zodiac]

What part are you stuck on?

[torpid rapids]

wait, it doesnt let me screenshot

[leaden zodiac]

Could you describe it then?

[torpid rapids]

its like a bunker with some kinda reactor or smth, there were some snorkels and those regular dudes (i took a long break from the game and i dont really know what it is exactly)

[leaden zodiac]

I think i know..

[torpid rapids]

it tells me to exit thru a hidden tunel or smth like that

[leaden zodiac]

Ah my memory is hazy.
Wait for somebody else!
Sorry i could not help

But if it is the thing i think it is.. good luck!

[torpid rapids]

I sent it on screenshots

[fast salmon]

i wish red forest and radar were in the same map tbf as in SoC its called red forest then CS adds a new red forest

[light shuttle]

No.

Radar is the original name of Radar, Red Forest it's an mistake.

[fast salmon]

jupiter is pretty boring i wish star base was bigger

[light shuttle]

Jupiter must have more cool areas, several areas are of "little interest".

[fast salmon]

not exactly coz its right next to red forest radar is called rader but it says red forest on the left part where nobody goes to unless ur a stash hunter

[fast salmon]

oasis is fun

and acid bath

[light shuttle]

U can delete some areas of Jupiter and nothing happens to the experience.

[fast salmon]

i wish it was bigger

theres a fence that blocks a big portion to the west

they couldve added so much well they kinda did in stalker 2 but ukno

[light shuttle]

is like three times bigger than the original Jupiter of 2008, just need more locations like Yanov and perhaps, Undergrounds.

[fast salmon]

jupiter is bigger in EE????

[light shuttle]

No, Jupiter CoP is bigger than the original concept for the level.

[fast salmon]

Oh i see it was small in 2008 but CoP is 2012

[light shuttle]

No, the original level was planned for an cancelled sequel of SoC in 2008.

[fast salmon]

i see

can u show me the old concept

[light shuttle]

i guess that isn't ideal send it throught #📸┃trilogy-screenshots because one of the image isn't a screenshot but doens't matters.

[fast salmon]

wait was it just the underground?

[light shuttle]

?

[lunar tusk]

Go to the last room where you killed the boss enemy after turning off the device, and there's a hole in the floor of one of the cells in there

[light shuttle]

tho, Jupiter Underground/Pripyat-1 is an "modded version" of Pripyat Underground, an level discarded of Clear Sky.

[torpid rapids]

yeah i just found it

[fast salmon]

thats pretty interesting tbh mate im just imagining a parallel universe where we got that concept and the new jupiter never existed

i feel like it wouldve still been pretty cool to play it like how we got dead city in anomaly

[torpid rapids]

i forgot how disgustingly terrifying these creatures were lol

[light shuttle]

I prefer imagine an reality where Clear Sky and CoP never was released and instead of these:
Anarchy Cell.
Secrets of The Zone.

and one reality where Oblivion Lost was released instead of Shadow of Chernobyl, these are my two favorites scenarios.

[fast salmon]

ive never heard of those concepts

i heard of oblivion lose which was the 2004 build with aztec stuff going on

[light shuttle]

The "new" version of Dead City was more like CoP Pripyat x Dead City.

[light shuttle]

No, Oblivion Lost was cancelled on early 2002 and that was the OL with aztec thingis.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Oblivion Lost started his development on 2002 and was cancelled on early-mid 2004.

[fast salmon]

i see

damn i wish i was that much of a stalker nerd haha

[torpid rapids]

can i stash my stuff in random boxes?

[late condor]

y

[fast salmon]

yeah if u can remember where u put them

i always use the ones at level transitions so i can quickly stock up on whatever ammo i left in them

[static spear]

Why do so many bloodsuckers spawn after encountering my first one even in locations they didnt spawn before (SoC)

[lunar tusk]

I'm super confused on what the timeline of clear sky is.

The steam store page says it's a prequel, supported by streloks group being (seemingly) still alive and the brain scorcher still being active.

But then almost everything else points to it being a sequel instead:

• Regular emissions, which SoC introduced as never before seen events. So obviously the game takes place after they started happening.
• Locations are fortified, even though in SoC they were completely empty. Why would someone remove all the improvised walls etc? Obviously they were built up after the player in SoC was there.
• In SoC the military was scouting agroprom, but in CS it's dutys main base. Duty is close with the military, so they wouldn't need to recon, they could just get the intel from Duty.

Also as a sidenote, I really dislike how freedom went from anarchist freedom fighters to a bunch of hippies

[lunar tusk]

It's the same for all enemy types. Snorks and mercs also start appearing in earlier areas after you fight the first ones

[static spear]

Ah ok good to know

Btw, could I get an explanation on which kind of fractions/types of npcs are good and which bad

[lunar tusk]

Most of them are shades of gray but in general:

• Loners good
• Military bad
• Duty in the middle
• Freedom in the middle
• Bandits bad
• Ecologists good
• Mercs bad
• Monolith bad

[static spear]

What about stalkers

Or what are stalkers to begin with

[lunar tusk]

It refers to anyone that lives in the zone or ventures in for whatever reason. So all of those factions could be considered stalkers.

Though most would probably limit the term to people actually living inside the zone, so that would exclude the military and ecologists since they live outside the zone and just come in for missions.

[static spear]

Ah I see because I saw a stat that I killed 300 stalkers and I didnt even know which enemys were stalkers. I always thought those guys with the coat are stalkers

[lunar tusk]

The guys in the coats are bandits

[static spear]

Ty very much for explaining<3

[lunar tusk]

Though they do look like actual real life stalkers lmao

[static spear]

Aren't there bandits in the 100 rads bar then?

[static spear]

lol true

[lunar tusk]

There's the one guy yeah, but the bar area is considered neutral so everyone is welcome if they behave

[static spear]

Ahh I see

[lunar tusk]

Actually freedom isnt welcome because it's dutys territory

[static spear]

Makes sense

[hallow thunder]

Clear Sky is the prequel. In Soc emmisions didn't happen they were cut. One only happened in CNPP near the end.

About fortifications, well why wouldn't they be dismantled or used for something else. Like Loner base with all the planks , tbat could have been used for fireplaces.

Military isn't really that close with Duty, yes Duty higher ups are ex military , but they decided to cut communication

[rotund widget]

Hello!

Does anyone know if there are bug fix mods for the enhanced editions?

Im dealing wiht a game breaking bug in AW where i killed all teh duty members and the mission "Destroy the Duty Company" will never complete

[lunar tusk]

The only mods that the EE versions have is whatever is in the steam workshop. There's at least 1 bugfix mod for clear sky, but on a quick glance I didn't see any for SoC. Your best bet is probably to reload an earlier save and see if it works on the second try

I mean there's a few small bugfix mods for SoC, but nothing comprehensive that would fix a lot of them

[humble crescent]

Kill them without saving and loading between kills

[fast salmon]

duty most likely saw an oportunity to move into rostok as the anomalies cleared so they just gave military the keys to the house they were previously at

[late condor]

Duty and Military are enemies in-game.

You can literally see them shoot each other in SoC.

[wise ruin]

first time player here

I'm currently on the pripyat mission to find the hotel and have entered a place with hihg sci emission

I have the sci-helmet in my inventory but it's doing nothing. Is my game bugged?

[late condor]

No, the helmet only protects you from brain scorcher specifically.

[wise ruin]

So I can't complete the quest then?

[late condor]

Why not? Where are you exactly?

[wise ruin]

Red Forest, enroute to the hotel

[late condor]

What’s your main task right now? The one from barkeep

[wise ruin]

Nope

the one you get after finding the Doctor in Streloks hide out

I held off on the barkeeps mission because it seemed like a point of no return

[late condor]

You go to the hotel after barkeep’s mission

The point of no return is later in the storyline.

[wise ruin]

okay, I'll head to the bar

[fast salmon]

theres no such thing i went to cnpp ran out of meds and amoo and booked it back to 100 rads lol

the true ending is to say nothing to the wish granter and crack the code to the door

[humble crescent]

CNPP is point of no return, probably you had a mod

[fast salmon]

nah most ppl just dont turn back

[humble crescent]

They don't because
it's impossible

[fast salmon]

i did it vanilla tho lol

[humble crescent]

Sure thing bud

[fast salmon]

if i were to play with mods ill just play radiophobia or OGSE

[static spear]

Hey can someone tell me what's the difference in #📸┃trilogy-screenshots

[leaden zodiac]

It is all a joke.
“Bread” is probably a glitched item and a very popular joke in this fandom

[light shuttle]

the bread can't be consume because has the " " between bread.

[static spear]

Oh I see

Thanks for the explanation

I was confused because I dont even know how I got it I just had it in my inventory

[humble crescent]

"bread" is npc food, that was mistakenly added in the lockers in dark valley instead of normal bread. It's used in npc animations when they eat near the campfire and normally should not be available to a player

[static spear]

Ahhhh I see that makes sense

But why isn't it named in ukrain

Basically if its something only the devs would see

[humble crescent]

It has no name or description because it shouldn't be in the game, so devs didn't add it. There also was undrinkable vodka in the early versions of the game, but it was fixed. "bread" probably will be fixed too, I already reported this bug

[static spear]

I see. I guess they just take the name of the item in this example bread in the language which the game is set to as a placeholder

[graceful horizon]

With this misinformation you risk summoning the Surdno: )

[wise ruin]

Just beat Shadow of Chernobyl for the first time on master difficulty

Storming the zone with the all out warfare between the factions was cool af

last level was tedious but cool

[leaden zodiac]

The (end spoilers) ||Like 29 monolith soldiers in a hallway?||

[wise ruin]

that's the part I was talking about

such dog water ngl

[static spear]

Bro and I'm sometimes struggling on the stalker difficulty cause I swear the bullets fly everywhere but not where I aim at 😭

[wise ruin]

the game is actually easier on higher difficulties bro

[leaden zodiac]

I gen loved it so much, what was your problem?

[wise ruin]

the difficulty adjusts how good bullets are and at low difficulty both your's and the enemies suck but on harder difficulties the bullets are better for you and the enemies

[leaden zodiac]

I thought SOC master diff was a bit harder

And at the same time i played through all 3 games without knowing that you could dodge bullets..

[static spear]

YOU CAN DODGE BULLETS?

What do you mean by that

[leaden zodiac]

not standing completely perfectly still when being shot
THAT IS HOW I PLAYED THE GAMES

[wise ruin]

literal enemy hallway, not a fan and had to save scum to keep my sanity

[leaden zodiac]

My favourite part was saving inbetween every kill
Hah, we are all different in many ways

[static spear]

I am actually standing still and crouch because otherwise I could dump 2 mags in an enemy and he still would be alive

[wise ruin]

highlight of my playthrough was turning a corner and being jumped by 20 dogs and 2 snorks

[leaden zodiac]

Got a video clip of me walking towards an enemy shooting at me and then getting frustrated that i died lol

[static spear]

Wait they hit better if i move or what ?

[leaden zodiac]

How did i beat all three games and SOC on masters man

[leaden zodiac]

No idea, i am just really stupid and have no idea how to play games

[static spear]

Same, atleast with stalker

[leaden zodiac]

I am so bad at games it is ridiculous
But i have fun
And that is all that matters
*reloads after being jumpscared by a chair or something *

Actually in the final hallway, i think one of the enemies in one of my playthroughs died to a chair

[static spear]

Btw are there bitg differences between the games? Im playing stalker for the first time currently on SoC

[light shuttle]

Yes.

[lunar tusk]

Standing still and low crouch is the best for accuracy, but doesn't affect the damage. Except in the way that more of your bullets will hit. Go for headshots when you can for extra damage

[lunar tusk]

Depends what you mean. Visuals are mostly the same in the EE versions, but the gameplay mechanics do change, especially with anomalies and artifacts

[static spear]

Ok so not a lot

[light shuttle]

There's a lot of differences:
Gameplay, A-Life, Combat AI, gunplay, story, characters, mechanics, maps.

[lunar tusk]

Like in clear sky the artifacts aren't just floating around anymore, you need to find them using a detector and they become visible only when you walk up to them.

And anomalies are bunched up more so that there's fewer of them in general, but there's really dense fields instead where you need to be super careful or you'll end up dying when you go for the artifacts.

Also weapons and armor can be upgraded to be better in later games.

In CoP the anomalies change again, where their positions and their artifacts change between ||emissions||.

[static spear]

Tbh I've been playing SoC for 15 hours and I still don't understand anything

[static spear]

Gahdamn that's sound good, I'm hyped to finish SoC and begin Clear sky

[lunar tusk]

Also yeah the AI and A-Life (the system where NPC's move in the maps) is a lot improved too, it makes the zone feel alive and like the stalkers are actually doing something other than idling at camps

[static spear]

That sounds really nice, because man SoC is not only a buggy mess but also very dull. To be fair its 18 years old

[lunar tusk]

Yeah apart from pripyat and the NPP, the earlier SoC areas feel like you're the only one actually exploring places with everyone else just afraid to go out

In CS the AI is active enough that they might end up completing missions for you if you take too long lmao

[static spear]

Same thing happened to me in soc tbh, defend camp mission

Even while I was pretty far away

[lunar tusk]

Well yeah those are understandable because it just takes enemies dying. But in CS there's objectives like "go turn on this antenna" and if an AI group gets there before you do, they'll just turn it on themselves.

Of course there's missions like that too where you need to defend or attack a location and the AI can just kill everything themselves. A lot more of them than in SoC, and more random too instead of that one garbage hangar being attacked every time you walk by 😄

[static spear]

Ah ok

[late condor]

it's not used for npc animations, regular food is used for npc animations

See: #⭐┃trilogy-general message

[torpid rapids]

whats a good early/mid game armor that i can buy for 30k in clear sky?

and where could i buy it

[wise ruin]

I'm playing Clear Sky for the first time, and I'm on defending the fishing hamlet.

The place is getting non stop attacked and is impossible to defend with the limited resources I begin with

Is this normal?

[humble crescent]

CS-3 from Suslov, but you have to go back to the swamps every time you want to upgrade it. But it's relatively cheap (15k if you are the member of Clear Sky or a friend to them). Or slightly worse and more expensive Berill-5, you can buy it almost everywhere

[humble crescent]

Buck shots are dirt cheap and common, you may find it in the crates, on the corpses, literally everywhere. Pick up Viper 5 at the pump station, modify it's caliber to 9x18 and you'll be good.

[torpid rapids]

huh

you can do that? ;-;

how do you convert ammo type

[humble crescent]

It's one of many upgrades available to the gun. Most assault rifles have it. Speak to the tech on the base, open upgrade menu, select the gun you need. Different technicians have different specializations, but common rifles like AK or Viper can be upgraded almost everywhere

[torpid rapids]

i just arived at the duty base for the first time

and there is some guy that does upgrades

i have no cash tho because i had to spend everything before that retarded bandit flashbang encounter

[lunar tusk]

Playing CS proper faction wars for the first time (not the swamps) and this is the worst gameplay I've had in SoC or CS so far

Just waddling over to an outpost, killing 3-5 enemies, waiting for 15 minutes, killing another group and then repeating

Except sometimes the wait goes to 20 minutes, and sometimes you need to go back to a previous outpost because the friendly group with vastly better gear couldn't take care of a bunch of pistol and shotgun wielding bandits

[humble crescent]

You can make money at the Zvyagintsev's shooting range. it's slow and boring, but easy. Choose Martha and scoring challenge. You need some starting cash to make a bet

[lunar tusk]

(The shooting range npc is in the cabin next to the northwest gate of the duty base)

[humble crescent]

Faction war is bugged as hell, I always warn people to stay away from it

[lunar tusk]

Alas, I'm going for 100% achievements so I need to do the faction wars for both loner-bandit war and duty-freedom war

Now that I think about it though, it might make things easier if I do the loner-bandit war first, because the bandits in garbage keep messing up freedoms positions when trying to push into agroprom

[lunar tusk]

I cant join the loners without first quitting freedom, can I rejoin freedom after finishing the loner-bandit war? Or is quitting permanent?

[humble crescent]

Yes, you can

[frosty radish]

without spoiling anything (only finished SoC thusfar) how does Monolith stay inside the zone past the brain scorcher? Shouldn't they of had their brains fried or did they already have it fried and can keep on working now, thats what I gathered from the ||C-Consciousness||

[late condor]

The answer is pretty much “they just do”. Besides, Brain Scorcher is mentioned once in SoC to turn stalkers into Monolithians, if you read the folklore in your PDA.

[frosty radish]

Thats what I had gathered, ||the c-consciousness takes stalkers who pass out in the brain scorcher and make them monolithians||

[late condor]

There will be conflicting information to that statement in later games.

[frosty radish]

great 👍🏻 I'll go ahead and play them at some point

[late condor]

Also, Brain Scorcher is mentioned to fry brains and turn people into zombies.

[frosty radish]

I got a little sick of SoC, i could only do thirty minutes at a time because I overplayed it

[late condor]

It’s just kinda confusing and not well thought through if we’re being honest. Stalker is full of different devs having different ideas and them all making it into the final product.

[frosty radish]

Just another mystery of the zone

[trail spruce]

Hey guys first time playing soc here is it okay if i just kill every military i see?

[late condor]

Pretty much yes

There are a few places where they won’t shoot you on sight and you can talk

But if you want you can murder those too

[lunar tusk]

I only recall a single time when talking to them has mattered, and its related to a side mission that gives an achievement

If that's something you care about, then all I'll say is that ||dont shoot a military guy who's sitting alone at a campfire||

[fast salmon]

i do it for the guns and ammo

[static spear]

Hey I have a questiok about dog tails, mutant parts etc
I've heard that I can sell them for money but idk where. I asked chatgpd and he told me I can sell them at sido? Even tho I can't

[lunar tusk]

Mobile lab in yantar

[static spear]

But is it actually tradeable or is it just the missions he gives me ?

[lunar tusk]

Actually tradeable

[late condor]

Sidorovich, Barkeep, Lukash and Sakharov have actual quests for some parts. Note that blind dog tail is not needed for any quest in the game.

[static spear]

Goddamn I could have already sold my 30 dog tails instead of dragging them with me

[late condor]

Sakharov and Skinflint also BUY any mutant parts off the player, for the price depending on your relationship with the faction. But even friendly Skinflint pays less than neutral Sakharov.

[static spear]

Sakharov is the lab guy in yantar?

[late condor]

Yes.

[static spear]

Thanks to yall very much

[torpid rapids]

Just finished Clear Sky

||what a disappointing story lmao. I was really liking this game until about halfway through when it started rushing me through maps and shoving Strelok into the plot.||

[lunar tusk]

I just finished like an hour ago too, and yeah those and also how the game went ||"oh but you see the brain scorcher can just be walked around by going through this magical city that didn't really take any effort to get to, that bandits and the military were already inside, but still nobody has gone deeper in for some reason"||

Really lazy scriptwriting of "we need to have a finale in the NPP so we need to figure out how that happens ||without the brain scorcher being turned off||" instead of choosing another location or something

[torpid rapids]

This reason alone is why CS is my least favorite. Could’ve been so much more unfortunately.

[light shuttle]

well, strelok and his group has one expedition to the north before Clear Sky, sooo, the range of the Brain Scorcher isn't lineal or smth, just affects certain parts.

In SoC there's a Emission on Yantar where the player can hear flashbacks of Fang and Ghost talking about strelok while Marked One is "sleeping" and the disappearance of the monolithians on the south is directly related to that expedition🤧

[light shuttle]

Yes, Anarchy Cell in concept was much cooler than retail Clear Sky.

[torpid rapids]

||IMO STALKER SoC had the perfect encapsulated story and it's just really hard to expand that story with what they initially gave us. Strelok is a nothing protagonist.||

||Strelok has no personality. No uniqueness. The only things we know about him is what he has done. It doesnt' make for an emotionally engaging character or universe.||

||I genuinely could not give less of a shit about Scar. This dude had even less personality than Strelok.||

||I still love these games, don't get me wrong, but the story is absolutely abysmal and that is crazy considering how good the source material was.||

||Currently playing through CoP but it is not snagging me the same way the first game did. They had something special there, for all its flaws.||

||I also say this as someone with no nostalgia for the game. SoC was just special and is now among my most highly ranked games.||

[late condor]

Roadside Picnic isn’t really source material

Moreso inspiration source, one of many

[torpid rapids]

||I think it's a lot more than inspiration. I recently watched the movie. The games took so much from that. It's a bit much to call merely 'inspiration'. Like copying the throwing of metal bolts into anamolies is a pretty direct rip off. Do I mind? No. I don't personally believe in copyright laws. But I think calling it merely 'inspiration' is a bit too far.||

[lunar tusk]

Tbh the "nothing protagonist" was kind of in style back then, thanks to Half-Life 2 blowing up in popularity. Gordon had even less backstory or personality than Strelok or Scar. At least Strelok got a few cutscenes, some log entries and a few voice lines.

But yeah, they should've just left Strelok to SoC and had a fresh story in CS, instead of trying to make a prequel for SoC. Either something like CoP that continues the timeline, or something that happens at the same time as SoC but as a different character in a different area, doing something else. To show the events of pripyat and CNPP from another perspective.

PS. Don't spoiler tag entire messages, that forces people to open them anyways without having any idea if it'll actually spoil something for them or not. Spoiler tag individual sentences instead.

[late condor]

But they didn’t throw bolts in the movie, it was nuts on a thread :)

The game is almost equally as much inspired by Strugatsky’s The Forgotten Experiment

[earnest raptor]

plus they had to run and go get them after throwing

[late condor]

My point is, yeah, obviously games wouldn’t exist without roadside picnic and the movie, but it’s by no means an adaptation, so “source material” is a huge stretch

[earnest raptor]

I found that the more I replay soc, I find that its harder and harder to replay the game, mainly due to its gameplay

you do a lot and I mean A LOT of running around in empty landscapes without much to do other than the main story

[late condor]

You make your own adventure at some point

Honestly it’s so fun finding new ways to break this game

Have you even played soc if you haven’t teleported through a fridge

[earnest raptor]

meh, not something I care about, to me CS has far more replayability than COP or SOC

as with all things, the stalker modding community is goated and fixes all problems

[torpid rapids]

The translation I found, they said "bolts' lol.

they are definitely different but I don't get when people say the two aren't connected

As someone who watched the movie while playing the games, the references were overwhelming.

had the Stalker games had a better budget and been able to adapt to the psychological horror aspect better... it would've been incredible.

Imagine Clear Sky but with full fledged companions

[torpid rapids]

What’s roadside picnic?

[pale nebula]

Did you play Heart of Chornobyl?

[pale nebula]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic

[torpid rapids]

Damn that’s awesome. I did not know about this

[earnest raptor]

I don't have the game, too expensive imo

[pale nebula]

If you think Shadow of Chernobyl has "too much" running around, don't ever try Heart of Chornobyl.

[earnest raptor]

I meant it has a lot of running around with not much happening in between

I already said how I felt about HOC, I will not play UE5 slop

[pale nebula]

In my opinion, Shadow of Chernobyl doesn't have dull moments, but to each their own. In Heart of Chornobyl there's truly running around with nothing happening.

[lunar tusk]

Does anyone have tips on how to get rid of extra weapons in CoP?

I looked up online that you could drop them on the ground and NPC's would pick them up as they pass by, but my pile of AK's simply turned into a pile of PM's since I guess they just trade for a better weapon instead of picking new ones up.

So now I have a pile of PM's sitting outside instead.

[humble crescent]

Throw them away and forget about them?

[graceful horizon]

Put them on a corpse

[lunar tusk]

I'm worried about savefile bloat though, because it seems that items on the ground stay there permanently and there's already a ton of weapons being dropped by dying npc's without me contributing as well.

I have memories from elder scrolls and fallout games that have the same issue, in those all saves essentially have a deadline before the save grows so much that it becomes unplayable.

[lunar tusk]

That's a good idea.

I suppose I could also just dump them in containers and leave them to rot, but it seems that someone at GSC really despised containers since there aren't really any in the game (except for the personal stashes that I cant really flood with trash).

[static spear]

Do those hallucinations/ghosts of enemy's in pripyat actually do anything or are they just for lore/miscellaneous

SoC EE btw

[torpid rapids]

You see them if you’ve induced too much Psi radiation

[torpid rapids]

Oh wow. First CoP playthrough here and this is good to know lmao.

Not having them de-spawn seems like some braindead game design? In Fallout everything clears every X days or something.

[static spear]

But they don't damage me or do anything to me in any way right?

[torpid rapids]

Yes, apparitions deal psi damage. It’s best to keep moving when in one of those zones.

They also distort vision

[static spear]

I've got hit a lot from them and didnt feel anything tbh

[torpid rapids]

You can also shoot them to get rid of them

[torpid rapids]

It’s little. They are basically there to create a distraction and distort you

[static spear]

Ah ok 👍

Btw am i in late game already? Currently in ||the red forest doing the antenna mission||

[torpid rapids]

Shutting down the “brain scorcher” ?yes

[static spear]

Yes

[torpid rapids]

After that you will be sent to Pripyat then CNPP

[static spear]

Well, trying to i still have to find a way in

[torpid rapids]

Best to head back to the early areas and get geard up and finish any remaining missions after you shut that down

There are also 7 endings btw

[static spear]

Wtf goddamn, no spoilers pls

I guess good, bad, secret and then faction based?

[torpid rapids]

not reading any of this lmao

I won’t all I’ll say is how much money you made, your reputation and who you left alive matters 😉

[static spear]

Better dont, I'm also on my first ever stalker game playthrough in SoC

[static spear]

Money lol, thats unexpected

[torpid rapids]

Greed is a thing

[static spear]

Well I'd better finish the game ASAP cause I'm intrigued

[static spear]

Ah i see

[torpid rapids]

Get to it stalker. The ending you get will show what kind of life you lived in ur play through

[static spear]

Yessir I'll be happy to report

Probably only tomorrow cause work

[torpid rapids]

But in the 7 endings there are 2 true endings that connect to CoP which require extra steps

[static spear]

It's half to 10pm and I have to get up at 5am

[torpid rapids]

Shiii you better catch some zzzs so you feel refreshed for that grind brotha

[static spear]

Nah I be tired all my life imma just thug it out

I atleast wanna finish this mission

[torpid rapids]

Fair enough lol

[light shuttle]

almost every aspect in CoP has some braindead game design, the mainquest thing is the worst.
and some mechanics are ok, has some mechanics from CS but better executed.

[torpid rapids]

I am only about 5hrs into it so I haven't seen that yet but I do get that impression tbh.

SoC was an absolute gem and it is unfortunate they have not managed to recapture that vibe.

For all its flaws, SoC is a 10/10 game for me, and I say this with no nostalgia (played the game for the first time at the age of 30!)

[light shuttle]

They could recapture that vibe.

Just, GSC don't want that, they did an great work on the atmosphere of build 3120 (Clear Sky build) and other lost builds of Clear Sky, build 3120 it's on some way similar to SoC vibes.

[torpid rapids]

From my understanding I think they could but it seems to be like, monetary restraints? Which is almost always the case with good game franchises going downhill.

By the time Heart of Chernobyl came around I think the original artists moved on? But I could be wrong. That is just the sense I get. I have not played the game yet tbh, just watched videos.

I just finished Clear Sky and man... it had so much promise 😭

I wish Clear Sky had another year or so in development.

[light shuttle]

they just don't want that.

Money wasn't a issue in CS and CoP development, same case with SoC development, just, CS didn't sell many copies than SoC.

[torpid rapids]

I am not sure about CoP but I thought CS was pretty rushed?l

The story definitely feels that way.

[static spear]

Man, I wonder why no other game has implemented the stash loot thing its a really cool concept

[torpid rapids]

lol I never use them

[light shuttle]

CS development was "rushed", incomplete.
THQ and investors did that.

[light shuttle]

I repeat, Anarchy Cell concept it's cooler than Clear Sky, i don't know which fokin investor don't wanna that game.

[torpid rapids]

that sounds like a rushed development tho?

[static spear]

THQ? The same guys that made spongebob squarepants: fight for bikini bottom?

[light shuttle]

Anarchy Cell would been sooo good as SoC or even better, atleast the plot it's at that level.

[torpid rapids]

I love that game but its wild this was your first thought.

[torpid rapids]

What do you mean by Anarchy Cell?

[static spear]

Man, idk why but the game lives rent free in my head

[grizzled rock]

schloky has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[torpid rapids]

NGL, same. It was a formative game for me.

I played the remaster recently and it was great.

I feel at home in that game.

[static spear]

The bubbles rising as you start the game is a core memory

[torpid rapids]

I was just thinking about that lmao

[light shuttle]

Anarchy Cell was the original concept for the prequel of SoC, planned on 2006 with an estimate duration of 20 hours.
Clear Sky just has a few thingis on quests and content taked from these ideas.

[static spear]

I tried to play the remaster and got flashed by nostalgia, I didnt finish it or play alot but it was fun

Btw did you also play that game where poseidon was in and in an level you have to drive around a place and find like those spear coins

[torpid rapids]

Oh wow, interesting. I need to learn more about this. I am always fascinated by creative development

[light shuttle]

idk, but THQ was the publishing of GSC since 2003 or 2004 and THQ have the fault of the cancellation of some thingis.

[static spear]

Neptun or so idk

[torpid rapids]

Anarchy Cell does seem like a good alt name for CS lmao

[static spear]

Man I hate investors

[torpid rapids]

This sounds weirdly familiar....

[light shuttle]

Anarchy Cell sounds good for Shooter/strelok-group.

[torpid rapids]

is it not BFBB?

[static spear]

I have to look into it

[torpid rapids]

I mean isn't that basically Freedom?

[static spear]

I also remember where you're In a cave I think? And you have to like throw yourself across platforms with Patrick and stuff

[torpid rapids]

I love and hate investment as a concept.

It has both created and crushed great things.

[static spear]

That is very true

[light shuttle]

Freedom is anarchist but tho, sounds good for strelok group.

[static spear]

But look at cod, every new cod is ahh

[torpid rapids]

Yeah I thought Strelok would fit in well there lol.

I tend to side with Freedom though so maybe I am biased.

they just smoke weed and try to find artifacts and chill n shit 😭

[light shuttle]

In Anarchy Cell an idea was that Freedom leader can, with help of Messer (protagonist) destroy the loners of Agroprom.

[torpid rapids]

absolutely the most chill force anywhere near the Zone.

[torpid rapids]

huh, that is very interesting

I would've liked that game for sure. Liked CS also tho.

[light shuttle]

as the entire desdoc of 2006 of Anarchy Cell, truly cool.

I don't know how GSC don't wanna have plots like these on CS, CoP and the cancelled S2.
The cooler plots by GSC always are discarded.

[torpid rapids]

Thus far I have been disappointed by how little the stalker series has gotten into the politics of it all.

It is cool to think of the world maybe expanding and becoming more in depth. Because it is a really cool universe they created.

[torpid rapids]

Ahh that sucks.

I do feel they must have some people who aren't into gaming on their board of directors or something.

[static spear]

@torpid rapids sry for being off topic but omg do you remember spongebobg Atlantis squarepantis?

[light shuttle]

I don't think that the director of OL-SoC-CS (Anton Bolshakov) have problems with these plots.

[torpid rapids]

Just looked that up but nooo. I think I was (barely) too old for Spongebob when that released.

[light shuttle]

Investors and grigorovich things, i bet that.

[static spear]

Damn I was like ngl between 4 and 7

[torpid rapids]

oh yeah not the creative director for sure. Just the finance board I mean.

[torpid rapids]

lol yea I started breaking laws around 2007

[static spear]

Goddamn you're old

[torpid rapids]

😭

[static spear]

I was 2 years old in 2007

[light shuttle]

THQ was some type of savior for stalker, and was an bad piece alongside sergey grigorovich.

[torpid rapids]

that is wild lmao.

[static spear]

Im sry hahahahah

[torpid rapids]

My son was born in 2015 if that gives you any indication as to my age.

[static spear]

Afaik you're over 30 so I'm guessing 36?37?

[torpid rapids]

😭 31

[static spear]

Oh, you said you played SoC when you were 30 so I thought its a few years back

[torpid rapids]

oooh no, that was last yuear lmao.

I just turned 31 in July

I was of age to play SoC when it came out but I wasn't interested then lmao.

[static spear]

Ahh I see

[torpid rapids]

I was more into fallout back then.

But stalker has revived some of that energy for me.

It has been years since I got as invested into a game as I did with SoC.

[torpid rapids]

I was in the same boat lol

[torpid rapids]

Great franchises lol.

Metro/Stalker/Fallout are 3 things I will love forever.

They are the holy trinity of post-apocalyptic gaming, for me.

[torpid rapids]

Agreed. I’m grateful to have stumbled across stalker. It was the cherry on top of the apocalyptic style games for me.

[light shuttle]

i was inmerse on Fallout before of playing the "Anomaly" (yeah, i re-started to play smth related to S.T.A.L.K.E.R by that), the last time that i played Fallout 3 was several months ago.

[torpid rapids]

I think Stalker works best when you know little about it.

[torpid rapids]

Heart of Chernobyl is where all the good lores at. There are some instances in the old games where it can get deep but not by much

[torpid rapids]

I am not keen on it tbh. I want to play it but it feels like a cash grab.

I somewhat like the slav jank

Stalker 2 feels ljijke its just cashing in.

I will play it someday though

[light shuttle]

In my case, yes, S.T.A.L.K.E.R for me is like the equivalent to the cocacola for mexicans.
The amount of official content is abysmal and the amount of proper-mods is, certainly interesting.

[torpid rapids]

yes, you have to return it at the corner store once or twice a week to get return on your bottles

oh wait im not sure that's what you meant.

[torpid rapids]

I’ve 100% the game and it’s really only good for its story telling and beautiful scenery. It obviously misses that trilogy humor and jank but other than that I loved it.

[torpid rapids]

yeah that is what I've gathered from it.

I think there is something special about SoC that they either have been unable or unwilling to capture again.

for whatever reasons.

I think you can tell when a game was made with artistry in mind, and when one wasn't.

same goes for any media really

[late condor]

Eh. Never liked HoC lore due to retcons. Trilogy is where it’s at.

Honestly if your writers can’t limit themselves to work within the boundaries of established material then they shouldn’t get existing IPs at all

[torpid rapids]

I love trilogy lore but hoc has a lot of goodies. I personally found the addition of spark very fun to learn about especially coming from being such a huge clear sky fan.

[late condor]

Coming from another diehard clear sky fan, how they retconned the faction’s backstory is honestly a disgrace and is why I can never see S2 as a canonical continuation

Turning a complex relationship into an absolute joke for the sake of a single cheap plot twist is not good writing at all

And I am not a fan of what they did to Scar, even if that had an explanation in-universe

[torpid rapids]

Yeah I agree they did cs dirty. But with what we was given I learned to appreciate spark as that replacement.

[late condor]

Eh. Spark felt more like temu freedom to me

[torpid rapids]

Well freedom ain’t freedom anymore in s2😂

[late condor]

Yeah. Noon was aight. But for me HoC was definitely most forgettable, and it’s hard to be more forgettable than CoP.

Hollywood storytelling just doesnt fit stalker imo

[light shuttle]

HoC Scar:

Trilogy Scar:
🪦

[torpid rapids]

Fairs fair. Just depends on how you see it

[torpid rapids]

Scar and Marshall😂

[light shuttle]

I don't liked that in HoC Scar isn't anymore an blue eyed blonde, was soooo sexy on Clear Sky...

[torpid rapids]

He truly was a nonchalant chad

[lunar tusk]

I havent played HoC but Scar ||didnt die at the end of CS, he was being brainwashed just like Strelok||

[torpid rapids]

^ C-Con got their hands on him

[lunar tusk]

Yeah, same as ||Strelok, and he isn't dead either||

[late condor]

That is if you assume the ending cinematic is from his point of view

[lunar tusk]

Actually I just realised that CS' ending cinematic was changed for EE

The EE cutscene shows scar reaching out with his hand before it fades to black

They might've changed that to show more clearly that he survived since they put him in S2

And it's obviously him because he has the same outfit and face as on his portrait in conversations and the stats screen

[light shuttle]

I understand what u are saying because im watching the cinematic but, is not scar.
Scar (model) didn't appears on that cinematic.

[lunar tusk]

Is it not?

[light shuttle]

there's several "placeholders npcs" on that cinematic if u max the brightness.

[light shuttle]

Yes, isn't scar.

[lunar tusk]

Oh, well nevermind everything I said then lmao, it looked like him to me but I guess not

[light shuttle]

on the initial cinematic of SoC i liked that there's several stalkers from several factions on the death truck, great detail by Plastic Wax.

[torpid rapids]

Scar has extensive neurodamage, and gets more and more brain damage with every emission. He survived hence why he’s a nut job in HoC. Obviously there’s no official answer on how he survived the event itself so believe all the theories you want

[light shuttle]

Theory:
Scar was found by Ivan Trodnik on that "cave" at the west of Great Swamps.

[torpid rapids]

That’s a good one. I like to think his situation was similar to streloks. A stalker or cs member found him and brought him back to one of the lesser zone areas to get him back on his feet. I’ve also seen alot of people say he was a monolith until the end of soc.

Or even CoP if you want to conclude why he’s not in the game

[trail osprey]

I just got the silenced aks-74u super late game and im actually surprised how quickly it kills bloodsuckers

I kinda want to run it for the final mission but i know i shouldnt

Its just cool

I cant do the arena because duty base got over run by mutants and the arena guy died🤦‍♂️

[proud sierra]

Yay w new update to trilogy that means you can focus on Stalker 2 now? Right?

[late condor]

Different people are working on this.

[static spear]

What is the new update for SoC?

Is it just an ad for stalker 2?

[lunar tusk]

Bugfixes for all 3 trilogy games. See #📰┃announcement

[static spear]

Ah ty

[sly ember]

so i just bought SOC and it came with the enhanced edition, should i play the enhanced edition? or the base game.

[late condor]

The base game.

[sly ember]

thanks

[static spear]

@torpid rapids its finished

Idk which ending it was but ||I did the wish granter quest because I thought its just a miscellaneous quest, but when I interacted with the crystal monolith thingy my character said " I wish the zone to dissappear" I think. And then I guess I got possessed or sum?||

||Idk alot about strelok but isn't he like the monolith preacher or so? So my interpretation is that we "saved" humanity from the zone but have the same fate as strelok? I guess that ending is not canon.||

[late condor]

You got the false ending, yeah.

[static spear]

So basically a non canon ending right? Idk what the diffrnece between a false and true ending is

[wise ruin]

the "enable quick slots" option isn't available for me in CoP after installing the update

anybody else getting this?

[torpid rapids]

That’s typically what most players get as their first ending having an "excellent" reputation, possessing less than 50,000 Rubles, and ensuring that the leaders of the Duty and Freedom factions are still alive.

Also good shit on beating the game bro. The next 2 are great

[static spear]

Awww, I thought i was being an extra good boy:(

[static spear]

Ty, only took me 25 hours 😐

[torpid rapids]

The games are short as hell yeah 😂

[static spear]

SHORT?? THATS SHORT?

I mean tbh I'm not used to real open worlds story games

[torpid rapids]

Sorry I’m coming from a stand point of 100% stalker 2. It is short in a sense compared to that game lol

[static spear]

Ohhhhh I see

[torpid rapids]

I’ve also played a ton of open world games

[static spear]

Ok so I finished SoC, I guess I can start with CS and just watch the true endings on YouTube for lore?

[late condor]

Quick slots were always in CoP

[late condor]

I’d replay for true endings

Depending on what you did before you might not need to replay much

[static spear]

You meab the guide quest?

Meh tbh I'm kinda finished with SoC , I may come back to get plat but I wanna continue with the trilogy now before I get bored of stalker

[late condor]

Yes

[static spear]

Man idk what to do
I kinda wanna start CS but I also wanna do the true endings before I start CS, but im kinda lazy

Duck it, imma do the true endings

[late condor]

CS does tie in with stuff revealed in true ending of SoC

[static spear]

Ok then I should do them

Are spoilers allowed in here?

Or questions that could spoil endings etc

[light shuttle]

marked one in that ending is blind.
the file it's named: final_blind, sooo he can't see nothing.

[static spear]

||Wait are WE strelok?||

WAIT IT MAKES SENSE NOW

[grizzled rock]

surdno has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[static spear]

Omg I get it, the doctor

[late condor]

That’s why you do the goddamn guide quest

[static spear]

Man im so bad at listening and paying attention in video games

[light shuttle]

spoilers of an game of 18 years ago

[static spear]

Yea, and im playing stalker for the first time and I don't know anything besides cheeki breeki iv damke

Oh and which requirements do i need for the true endings besides the quest

[light shuttle]

nothing more than the quest.

[static spear]

Good to know

[torpid rapids]

kill the strelok

Yes he has amnesia

[static spear]

Damn I really need to watch an lore video after finishing the trilogy

[torpid rapids]

It’s pretty funny and interesting stuff

[static spear]

Yea i have to say that I think I didnt get alot of the lore in SoC cause im just really not good when it comes to the actual story of an story game

[torpid rapids]

Ur not alone. A lot of people miss the fine details their first play-through. Hell I still find new stuff revisiting the games after many years

[static spear]

Tbf it is ALOT to take in for the first playtrough

[torpid rapids]

Pretty much which is why I recommend people play clear sky first. It has an easier start to the franchise and is a prequel to SoC

[static spear]

Man I remember when I asked for advice in this server everyone told me to play it in order

[torpid rapids]

I mean sure SoC came out first but I think what I said is more important tbh

[static spear]

Yea would have been

[torpid rapids]

It’s okay. You can still play CS after SoC and have it make sense. They don’t have direct ties until you see the end. CS really just fills in some of the lore gaps SoC has

[static spear]

I see

[humble crescent]

But CS has a lot of new mechanics SoC hasn't. So if the new player starts to play SoC after CS he may be disappointed because there are no fast travel, upgrades or possibility to repair weapons

[torpid rapids]

That’s on them for being narrow minded. Obviously an older game is going to miss some core mechanics but that does not mean it’s worse. I simply recommend it as a starter for an easier introduction into the franchise and chronological reasons

[static spear]

Very nice! Great success

Did both true endings, now gonna start CS

[torpid rapids]

Have fun broski let us know how it goes

[static spear]

Ty<3

Gonna be very honest, I think im biased when I sas this but the beginning of SoC was 10 times better than CS

And I kinda don't like the new things in CS that weren't in SoC before

And also the game runs like a potato on 40 fps even tho its set to 60 fps
But I've read that its a glitch since the new update

I hope they fix it soon cause I hate unstable fps in games

[torpid rapids]

That’s how it be. CS has a lot more NPCs out in the world because of the faction wars

Most would agree with you on SoC being the best one. The other 2 are still special tho

[karmic horizon]

Stalker remasters hit 1.3 as GSC back-ports quick-inventory slots from Call of Prypiat to all 3 games | PC Gamer https://share.google/gD3jFrAv2VWnRZlma

[late condor]

still needs a LOT of wrok to be on par with original. What this article fails to mention is how many of those bugs were bugs EE introduced.

[fast salmon]

food and drinks animations would be a nice mod for copee

[karmic horizon]

You and I both know the original trilogy and the trilogy remasters are two different animals. The disparity continues to grow.

[late condor]

Hardly remasters, they are 95% the same games. Just 5% that is worse.

[karmic horizon]

I don't know why the term "Remasters" is being used more to describe them. Are these still the only versions available to Xbox and PS now?

[torpid rapids]

Yes. They took the originals away from us😔

[lunar tusk]

The originals came out before ps4 and xbox one were released, they cant "take them away" if they never existed on the platforms to begin with

[torpid rapids]

Buddy I’ve got a pc too but some people travel for work. They can definitely “take them away”. They are also giving the new players a shittier version of the game 😂

[light shuttle]

What a shame that the OGs/Vanilla trilogy never was released on his "true form" for Consoles.
I understand that was there plans about ports of the trilogy to PS3/Xbox 360 but every attempt failed (and probably is not possible port the A-Life of any of the titles to these consoles).

in 2006 GSC planned an port (essentialy an game made from the scrap) of SoC to PSP.

[late condor]

Original console ports released without AI crap and terrible HUD and with less censorship

[lunar tusk]

So before you used to travel and be able to play the games on the go, but now you cant?

[torpid rapids]

Basically what I’m tryna say is the “originals” on consoles were drastically downgraded obviously it isn’t the exact version pc has

[late condor]

You know there were console ports before ainhanced editions, right?

PS4 and Xbox versions existed for over a year before that.

[light shuttle]

U think that if LoTZ was released before console and PC users could have an better EE?, i mean, a couple of years ago the AI generation wasn't the thing that's now.

[late condor]

I know from talking with someone involved that they had plans for texture upscaling as early as 2021

[fast salmon]

why are my soviet era landmarks removed

can we have mod that brings them bakc

maybe not because there are no mod tools

and we are forever censored

[late condor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3485133010&searchtext=altered

this doesn't restore removed geometry but brings back original uncensroed textures

[fast salmon]

such ashame

@hallow roost give me mod tools

[late condor]

There are mod tools.

Existing SDK should work fine for editing EE levels. The format is the same.

[fast salmon]

but they dont let u do everything as u said cant make bin files

[late condor]

but this doesn't require binaries

yeah source code would be cool but the mod you want is possible without it

[fast salmon]

i know

can u do custom scripts like adding extra menues, anims and questlines

[late condor]

yes

[fast salmon]

cool i must get to work then

[late condor]

good luck

[fast salmon]

im messing with OG cop can you recommend any weapon mods, foliage/texture enhancers, animations and hud stuff

a modlist would be great thanks

[frosty radish]

ive just started Clear Sky, why does it play so differently? its like Scar doesn't know how to throw a bolt more than a few feet and he sways so far from side to side

[fast salmon]

are u playing EE?

[frosty radish]

nope i dont believ ein that

[fast salmon]

U can charge bolts by holding left click

and thats the way hes intended u can get mods but it will change ur experience

ToT

[frosty radish]

I see, interesting

[fast salmon]

thats how its supposed to be lol]

[frosty radish]

in soc you throw the bolts with such confidence, yet in cs you through them like you've got a wet noodle for arms

virgin scar vs chad strelok I suppose

[prime rapids]

man, standalones got no chill

first mission I get in call of the zone, straight off rookie, with just a 1911 to my name: go kill a chimera

[fast salmon]

SUCH IS LIFE IN THE ZONE just wait until u find out what other crazy things happen in COTZ

[torpid rapids]

Something about cop ages like fine wine

[fast salmon]

oh its beautiful with the right mods just be prepared to fix some of the crashes since it can be a headache

unless u just wanna play with misery + gunslinger which personally i think is just slop

[torpid rapids]

Im a vanilla bean. I work through the jank. But I love the artifact hunting in this game. The side quests are also a cherry on top.

[fast salmon]

artefacts are my favourite part of stalker

its something i always give time for

then u got secret cave systems that are dotted around the map

[torpid rapids]

Exactly. CoP used to be my least favorite but it grew to be something I appreciate

[fast salmon]

tbh clear sky is the only one i dislike the most and its mainly due to not being able to do the faction war quest being bugged and limansk being a shit show

but CoP and SoC are the best story wise also my favourite part of CoP is it has the most english dialogue for my 1 language brain

i only know some russian and its most hello, goodbye, comrade and curse words

[torpid rapids]

I agree. The game would be great if faction wars was more fleshed out.

Also same. I like being able to understand more but i enjoyed the humor of soc 😂

[fast salmon]

its more of a tutorial

[fast salmon]

agreed

[torpid rapids]

Wow I found a hidden SVD I’ve never came across in zaton. Very nice

[fast salmon]

where?

id like to know

[torpid rapids]

It was leaned up against a tree north of saw mill.

[fast salmon]

huh

[torpid rapids]

It’ll be on the right hand side if you follow that path

[fast salmon]

i never seen that before crazy imma have to check it out

[torpid rapids]

Ikr. It’s mint condition too. Only came with 10 bullets tho.

[fast salmon]

is it 7.62x54 or 51?

[torpid rapids]

7.62

[fast salmon]

x54R or x51 nato

[torpid rapids]

Oh it takes the 54

[fast salmon]

shredded

british favour (shredded wheat, sweet)

[torpid rapids]

Indeed. Crazy you can get it so early

[fast salmon]

I think i found it when i was playing xrmp with my bros

[prime rapids]

I won't. Uninstalled.

Maybe in like a couple months I'll give another standalone a brand new chance to disappoint me

I would actually like to find a good modpack but just running off the EE instead of a standalone

[late condor]

there aren't modpacks running off the EE lol

[prime rapids]

I saw a few mods off the workshop but I'm assuming it's too early still

I just would like to be able to play the most "+" vanilla+ experience without having to put up with a sweaty 15 year old's idea of hARdCoAR

don't care if it's EE or OG, got both.

[torpid rapids]

I forgot is there a downside to using suppressors in CoP?

[fast salmon]

CoP OG with Arsenal Overhaul 3 with atmosphere 3, absolute nature 3 and absolute structures u will enjoy its not too sweaty keeps the vanilla experience with cool guns and nicer visuals

[light shuttle]

why not IX-Ray Engine with IX-Ray Addons?.

[fast salmon]

what is IX ray

[light shuttle]

One of the best engines for CoP, has our beloved multithreading.

[fast salmon]

put me on where do i get it

[prime rapids]

guess I'll give radiophobia a go

I should probably move up straight to CoP but I keep trying to find a good modpack for SoC to begin with

[light shuttle]

R3 has a lot of changes and additions.

[prime rapids]

I don't mind the additions as long as it's reasonable to play through organically

in fact I'd say I'll welcome gameplay additions as long as they aren't too annoying, vanilla SoC is kinda dry tbph

My goal is to have a balanced and non-sweaty experience that can benefit from 17 years worth of iterative mod work on the franchise

I'd say the best one I've tried personally was autumn aurora, but once I got to... can't remember, the area after the helicopter defense section

it just turned into a pseudo CoD level with military dudes literally raining from the sky and I just dropped it

I mean for all the vibrant mod community stalker has managed to amass over the years it's kinda curious how every single modpack seems hell-bent on going into the one very specific direction when it comes to difficulty balancing

[fast salmon]

no theres better mods than radiophobia

[fast salmon]

radiophobia is very hard even on normal

theres kamikaze zombies which really annoy me

[static spear]

Hi, wanted to ask how the artifacts work in CS?

I try to find them but I just can't somehow

[fast salmon]

get a bear detector it makes life easier and safer when hunting artis

[static spear]

What's a bear detector? You mean that thing that beeps?

[fast salmon]

yup thats the only way to hunt artis SoC didnt have detectors due to it being the first game

echo is trash and unsafe bear is a step up actually giving a direction where they are and veles gives a little radar showing u exactly where they are

[static spear]

Ohhhh, im at the very very beginning of the game so idk where to get it

[fast salmon]

traders have them or if ur lucky u can find it on a dead guy

theyre usually 1500 to 2000

[static spear]

Ok ty, I'll get it if I see it

Oh and btw does the sparkler give endurance in CS?

[fast salmon]

it varies between games it gives protection against electro anomalies in cs

[static spear]

Ah ok

[torpid rapids]

CS was so short, I honestly beat the game without any artifacts.

I only used the detector for missions.

[late condor]

CS is short if you rush it

The key is taking it slow

[static spear]

Tbh idk if im just biased but I dont like CS

So im trying to rush it but also do stuff thats interesting enough for me to care

[charred prism]

you are biased by your wrong beliefs

[late condor]

Not liking CS honestly should be a sin.

[static spear]

Idk i think its just that I didnt like SoC at the beginning and then slowly fell in love with it. And now I want CS to be exactly like SoC

I should try to be more open minded

Im also just overwhelmed by all the new stuff that is in CS

[fast salmon]

CS is the worst one in my opinion aswell

[static spear]

Im not saying its the worst one or bad its just that im a type of person that doesn't like changes after I've already like accumulated to some things

It's like playing gta4 and then starting gta5 and saying I dont like the arcadey driving in gta5 cause I got used to the gta4 driving

[fast salmon]

for me its the gunplay its really bad vanilla the swamps is the most annoying place to be at since its all climbing and ur constantly walking through a maze of reeds

[static spear]

Tbh idk if im playing vanilla or not im playing the trilogy version on ps5

[fast salmon]

but i have gotten used to the swamps and then u have a buggy mess at the end of the game it feels like a tutorial to faction wars the whole game

[fast salmon]

thats vanilla

[static spear]

But i played SoC and it didnt say it was EE but it had EE things in it

Hunger to be exact so im still confused

[fast salmon]

wdym?

[static spear]

Wait

[fast salmon]

if it has soviet land marks and the money says ru and not sr its OG

[grizzled rock]

sir_whiterabbit has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fast salmon]

dont be swearing boy

[leaden tapir]

First time in my life to ever experience the permanent radiation bug, I didn't even know it exist

[fast salmon]

u get it in CS alot

[light shuttle]

Prosectors Project is much better than Radiphobia 3.

[prime rapids]

so far I've played up to rostok and I have been really really pleasantly surprised by radiophobia

as in, this is the first modpack that seems to have a passing interest in providing a vanilla+ experience

I've read that it gets dumb later on, which worries me though.

but so far the gunplay is great, encounters are reasonable, you don't get instakilled the second you peek out of a corner, animations are a little long but otherwise not bad at all

you don't get a pseudogiant camping right outside rookie or any other modpack classics like that

[fast salmon]

It adds cut content which doesnt work very well i miss the cars from the older version of it

[late condor]

ZRP is more vanilla+ mod pack

[leaden tapir]

OGSR Gunslinger

[fast salmon]

i played with that and played with VSO

[late condor]

Ok for second playthroughs

Radiophobia is a very heavy overhaul

[fast salmon]

both are pretty good

[late condor]

I prefer playing original non-EE unmodded

[fast salmon]

VSO is very vanilla friendly except streloks AK which has a scope

[prime rapids]

When I say "vanilla+" I mean to say something that tries to keep a semblance to actual progression, only adding weapons, animations, enemies and such

[fast salmon]

OGSR

its the same engine as radiophobia minus the dumb stuff

[prime rapids]

isn't OGSR just the engine?

also, the only ogsr modpack I can find is this: https://www.moddb.com/mods/ogsr-mod-repack-from-serega-lus-with-english-patch

[fast salmon]

OGSR is a remastered version of OGSE which is just a modified version of the XRAY engine but it has all cut content and the original maps and story with little bit of cut content seasoning its very good at what it does plus theres so many mods u can add to it

its a true vanilla+

[prime rapids]

mind you I don't particularly care about it being vanilla+ but I wouldn't lie if I said I'm concerned about radiophobia taking a turn later on

so far it's been great, everyone keeps claiming it turns to ass but all I've read is pretty old stuff

[light shuttle]

No, not has all the cut content.

[late condor]

I wanna see a mod restoring 2006 SoC

(not RMA)

[light shuttle]

Recession Addon perhaps?.

[late condor]

I forgot snowy is doing that

[light shuttle]

Im waiting recession addon for make another playthrough of SoC, i love Clear Sky Revision.

[static spear]

Why do the freedom guys instantly shoot me even tho I need to talk to them for my main quesr

Is it because im coming from the wrong spot?

[late condor]

Which game are you playing and which quest

[static spear]

CS
Talk to the outpost commander
In the dark valles

[torpid rapids]

Ayeee how you been enjoying CS bro?

[static spear]

Yooo wassup
Tbh i think im biased but SoC was way better

Im still in the early game so it may change but who knows

[torpid rapids]

CS is a bit of a mess and the story is well half assed but you can still make it somewhat enjoyable if you don’t take it seriously.

[static spear]

That is true, I also dont like a lot of the changes to the ui and such but we'll gotta live with it

Like I said im still giving it a chance and so far its playable

[torpid rapids]

Hell yeah but you said freedom shoots you on sight?

[static spear]

Ye

[torpid rapids]

You should be able to work for duty and freedom without conflict between one another

[late condor]

Uhh do you listen to what they tell you

[static spear]

They only tell me i should go away and even if i holster my weapon and get closer they say "drop him" and shoot

Could it be because im coming from the wrong side?

[static spear]

Im actually a loner rn

[torpid rapids]

Nah you should be able to come in through the front entrance (the side garbage is on)

Did you talk to the guard?

[static spear]

There was no guard really

[late condor]

They say you should stand still

[torpid rapids]

Should been 2 posted up by an entrance

[late condor]

If you get closer they kill you yeah

Just stand still after they tell you to

[torpid rapids]

Oh you haven’t even made it to the base yet. Yeah you should be able to talked to the guy there

[static spear]

Im standing still and nothing happens@late condor

[late condor]

Do you wait for the guard to tell you to stand still and then stand still?

You should come slowly until they tell you to stop, then stop

Honestly never seen people having issues with that scene lol

[static spear]

They don't tell me to stand still

And if I come slowly closer they just shoot without saying anything

[torpid rapids]

Time to side with duty and help them take over the territory

[static spear]

I didnt see any duty in my playtrough

[torpid rapids]

Their base will be on the left side of garbage. Opposite from freedom

[static spear]

I see

[torpid rapids]

Or you can just go in guns blazing

[torpid rapids]

Its the middle path

[grizzled rock]

surdno has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[late condor]

Yeah at this point just murder the outpost and move on

It won’t break the story or anything, you can do that for a small rep hit

[static spear]

I've been trying to find a way in for so long, I think my game is just glitched

[static spear]

Yep imma do that cause im tired of this bs

[lunar tusk]

It's the same thing that bandits do when you enter garbage, you need to stand still until the guy walks up to you and starts the conversation

If doing the same thing doesn't work when entering the dark valley then yeah I guess you just gotta shoot them.

But yeah killing faction members doesn't really harm the reputation that much, doing 1 side mission for them should be enough to fix it

[static spear]

Like I said I tried everything and nothing works

[static spear]

The mission goes from talking to the outpost guy to finding the freedom base

And im afraid that everyone in the base is gonna be hostile

[lunar tusk]

They shouldn't be unless the reputation drops to the halfpoint. You can check on the map if the dots are yellow or red. Yellow is neutral, red means they'll shoot you.

[static spear]

It's yellow so evesgbinf good

[fast salmon]

does anyone know how to fix beard stuck in an animation loop ive tried going across the map to get him out of render distance i even went to jupiter and back but hes still bugged

i fixed him i just slept it off as i was out of options

[prime rapids]

oof, you weren't lying when you said ogsr did feel closer to vanilla

somehow it manages to feel 480p while running at 4k

radiophobia's ui and presentation are much much better imo

[onyx pier]

does anyone know the fix to not getting the special side quests from squad leaders in clear sky? i have a good standing and i did multiple quests in the previous area, i'm trying to get the special weapons

[fast salmon]

well yeah OGSR is using old good stalker assets lol

[light shuttle]

when i tried OGSR LE i feel it like an remastered of SoC on the visuals.
But when i played Prosectors Project i discovered the true Remastered (on the visuals, of course).

[fast salmon]

i need to try prosectors project where do u install it from

[prime rapids]

I mean... it does look better, it's got better colors and effects and stuff

[light shuttle]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/prosectors-project-english-translation
One of the best mods ever made for SoC, and possibly the best reinvention of SoC.
That mod is big in terms of everything but, for reason still is SoC, not as Radiophobia 3 and OGSR.

[fast salmon]

it actually looks really good im installing it lool

its in x64

???

[light shuttle]

Yes, the engine it's X64 for the heal the scale of the project.

There's a fix7 that has cool QoL improvements but that repack don't have the fix7.

[fast salmon]

i dont think ill be able to run

[light shuttle]

isn't heavy in reqs, if u played OGSR u can play Prosectors Project.
Even runs better than OGSR LE.

[fast salmon]

i can run gamma at 240fps

but i cap it on 60 coz who likes crashing

[light shuttle]

u can cap the FPS in PP tho.

[fast salmon]

are there any animation mods for food and drinks in cop

[static spear]

Does the story of CS and SoC play simultaneously?

Oh and btw where can I find endurance artifacts?

[torpid rapids]

Clear Sky is a prequel to Shadow of Chernobyl

[static spear]

Oh yeah makes sense

[fast salmon]

its called the prologue for a reason lol

[torpid rapids]

It’ll make more sense once you beat the game

[fast salmon]

its set in 2006 and SoC is 2008 i wanna say maybe 2010

[static spear]

👍

[torpid rapids]

& Heart of Chernobyl takes place during 2021

[light shuttle]

No, CS is a prequel related to the second trip of Shooter group to the center.

CS it's set +- 9 months before SoC, in september of 2011 and SoC it's set on may-july of 2012.

[fast salmon]

isnt CoP set in 2012 aswell?

[torpid rapids]

Late 2012 apparently

[light shuttle]

Yes, too.
In August or smth.

[torpid rapids]

August 3rd 🙏

according to the fandom wiki

[light shuttle]

About the thingis that happened between 2006-2010 no there's a lot of info on the Trilogy.

[fast salmon]

anyone wanna play deathmatch on the OG game?

just for fun and nothing else

i played clear sky multiplayer back in 2020 and got dunked on so hard

omg clear sky is still active 20 man deep

[late condor]

It never dies

Matter of fact I think it would be livelier than ever if GSC just bothered to actually have MP in EE

and not take the easy way out and cut it

[fast salmon]

yup

multiplayer cosmetics for stalker 2 🙈

told we would get it and havent seen it

[fast salmon]

i cant find the install exe for PP

[light shuttle]

f, i don't installed that repack but the bin/bat/exe should've on the folder of the mod.

[fast salmon]

theres a bin and batch foldere

so i just run the xrengine app

[lunar tusk]

Have you been offered a side mission that you then ignored?

I had the same issue and I found online that if you've been offered one that you ignore, you will never be offered another one until you go find that squad leader and do their mission.

I was in Agroprom by then, not having received a special mission from any squad leader since Cordon. So I fixed it by going to each and every single squad leader to see if they had a mission for me. I started in the Swamps, then Cordon, then Garbage.

After I finished going through most squad leaders in Garbage, suddenly I started getting offered missions again. Suddenly I got 2 weapon missions in a row.

So I would do try that as well. Go talk with every single squad you see on the map and ask for missions.

[prime rapids]

so, something that's always mystified me

how the hell are you supposed to go back to rookie village?

are you just supposed to tank an electric anomaly in the tunnel? Or is there an "official" way I'm missing?

[torpid rapids]

Wut game

[prime rapids]

SoC

actually nevermind, I dunno if it's mod specific but I found this small gap in the railway bridge coming in rookie's direction

[late condor]

I mean you can pass the anomaly without getting hit

You can pay at the bridge

You can massacre the military at the bridge

Or you can go through the gap on the east

[prime rapids]

huh, I hadn't even considered paying at the bridge

[torpid rapids]

Oh lol I kill the army dudes

[prime rapids]

but yeah I found the gap on the bridge, it's fine.

[torpid rapids]

They shoot on sight anyway

[late condor]

They don’t

[torpid rapids]

Why are they always red then

Wait I be killing the patrols near the checkpoint. That’s probably why😂

[torpid rapids]

How do you earn the respect of duty fighters (for the achievement) in cop. They are green for me

And how do you help sultan take beards business under control. (I helped the bandits)

[onyx pier]

I'll try that, thanks

[lunar tusk]

You need to give the leader 2 specific pda's and tell him about ||magpie||. The same things are used for 2 other achievements too so if you want all of them, save before doing it.

https://cop.zsg.dk/Achievements.php#Friend_Of_Duty

[torpid rapids]

Is one of them the mercs in zaton?

[lunar tusk]

You need to accept a mission from owl thats about veles detectors to continue the questline.

[lunar tusk]

The merc that was meeting with the bandits to sell them weapons, yes

[torpid rapids]

God damnit i sold it to owl

I had a feeling Id need it

[lunar tusk]

Yeah its an easily missable achievement. One of them was to sell both to owl though so you can get that one at least

[torpid rapids]

Then give compass to sultan?

[torpid rapids]

Yeah I got this on accident

[lunar tusk]

Yes, then do an additional job for him to steal the other svarogs from beards guys

[torpid rapids]

Okay bet at least I can do that one

Thank you bro

[lunar tusk]

Also, since I was confused about it: When that last job says "start working for beard", it means you need to take an artifact hunting mission from beard (you wont need to finish it)

[torpid rapids]

Ahhh damn no wonder I was confused

[lunar tusk]

Yeah it was super confusing to me as well, i tried a long time to find a dialogue option I missed with someone lol

Had to look up a walkthrough

[torpid rapids]

Makes sense. Some of the achievements don’t explain shit lol. I basically only have the faction ones and consumables left. Then finishing this playthrough on master.

[static spear]

Are mutant parts still a thing in CS or are they just a lot rarer?

[humble crescent]

You can loot mutants only in SoC

[static spear]

👍

[lunar tusk]

For some reason they still let the player open the loot menu for mutants in CS, even though nothing can ever be looted from them

[torpid rapids]

Does anyone have any idea why CS doesn't have iron sights on the pistols?

Considering they already had the assets for some of em, its a weird move.\

Pistols were way better in SoC from my playthrough. More variety, more powerful, and they had iron sights.

[static spear]

Im finally done with CS

It's a buggy mess and I hate this game

Im not gonna finish this bs

[torpid rapids]

are you playing the EE?

[static spear]

Yes its the only version I can play on ps5

[torpid rapids]

ahh dang 😭

I played the og version on PC with the SRP mod installed. It ran pretty much bug-free for me. Had 1 missing stash tho.

[static spear]

I wish I could play the og version with mods but I dont have a pc

There are just so many bugs like the main mission yesterday, hundreds of stashes on the map that are just empty, factions attacking me even tho im friendly with them, some factions not even getting any progression even when I do quests for them. Anomaly being invisible till I step in them. Artifacts not there even when my echo device is going off. Things despawning in my inv. Guns being way too inaccurate even at pristine

[late condor]

, hundreds of stashes on the map that are just empty
Do you mean before you find a map marker?

[static spear]

No, one's that are marked on the map

[late condor]

never had that in CS

[onyx pier]

my resolvement to the issue was completing literally 1 more quest in the swamps - the one with a stone flower

i'll have a problem with the special weapons from bandits, as my reputation with them is bad and i can't do any quests for them

[lunar tusk]

Good thing that you got it working again, really annoying bug

[lunar tusk]

Are they hostile to you, as in red dots on the map?

[onyx pier]

not that much

it's like 1 dot in the negative side

[lunar tusk]

That should be fine, they should still give you missions but rarely

Bandits have a lower chance of giving missions to begin with

[onyx pier]

maybe because i took the quest from flea market?

the one with stringov, i didn't do it yet

i'll try doing all the special quests in cordon, maybe that will fix it

[lunar tusk]

I never really talked to the guys in the flea market except getting the technician for the achievement, so I dont know. But I doubt it would affect that.

Go to another area, save and then travel back to garbage and check all the squad leaders for missions. If they dont have any, load back to the other area and try again.

[onyx pier]

okay

[lunar tusk]

I would try that too yeah, I did them all in order myself

[static spear]

Why are mutant parts not a thing anymore after SoC?

[graceful horizon]

They vanished, don't exist anymore. Psuedodogs running around with no tails and bloodsuckers without tentacles

[late condor]

for the same reason there is no complex artifact balancing

gameplay simplification

[static spear]

I see

[torpid rapids]

I’m surprised mutant parts aren’t in cop either

[fast salmon]

they are with mods

if u use atmosphere 3, AO3 and absolute nature 3 u can have mutant parts but u gotta download the fix so it actually works

[static spear]

Yea no shii you can have what you want with mods

[fast salmon]

I mean it is possible for console but ukno jail break it to run linux is the only way

[static spear]

Currently playing CoP
Gotta say it feels nice but I feel useless cause im only doing side quests and not really progressing and im also not really getting loot

Im also kinda lost cause idk where to find tools and the stalker magpie

[torpid rapids]

The whole game is basically just side quests. The main objectives is just finding the crashed helis.

[static spear]

I see

[torpid rapids]

All the good loot is in stashes

And shops will update the further into the game u are

[static spear]

Yea i found a tr301 or how its called in my first stash but im too afraid too use it cause not enough ammo

I found the simple tools for the mechanic but no idea where to find the fine tools for him

[torpid rapids]

You’ll find plenty of ammo later on. Not really any point in conserving if ur getting the job done

[static spear]

Yessir, the akm is enough for now

[torpid rapids]

Substation Workshop

[static spear]

Ahhh yea that one stalker was talking about it

[torpid rapids]

Where the mercs are held up.

[lunar tusk]

The tools are so absurdly well hidden that you might as well look up a guide for it

[torpid rapids]

I kill all the mercs. Free ammo for ur rifle

[lunar tusk]

There's like 1 out of the 6 tools total that are somewhere that makes sense to search

[static spear]

Tbh i found the simple tools pretty easy

[static spear]

I see

Btw, if i hear constant thunder that means that a emission is about to happen ?

[lunar tusk]

If you want to find them legit you really need to search every tiny little hole and cabinet in every single room and floor, in every single location. Some of them are hidden like in attics with nothing but empty boxes, and if you dont look behind every empty box you'll miss them

[static spear]

Good to know ty

[lunar tusk]

I thought that at one point but no, constant thunder never led to an emission for me

[static spear]

How can I know if an emission is gonna happen?

[lunar tusk]

The sky starts turning red and you get a new side mission that says "emission: find cover"

[static spear]

Ahhh ok

[lunar tusk]

The mission objective will point to the closest building that works as cover

And once you're safe, the objective will change to say "stay in cover until the emission is over" or whatever

[static spear]

👍ty

lol an emission is actually about to happen

now I get it, that one dayz mod I've always seen in YouTube videos is actually based on stalker

[light shuttle]

the main plot would have been cool if CoP had more maps and more anomalous thingis.

[torpid rapids]

I agree there is a lot more they could have done with it. It’s a shame we only got 3 explorable areas. Don’t get me wrong a lot of the side quests are pretty fun and the lore isn’t terrible but I would’ve loved to see more depth development for the military.

[light shuttle]

there's more marked areas on the north on the collector map of CoP but just are marked areas.

[fast salmon]

dont worry about magpie

[static spear]

Let me guess, im magpie?

[lunar tusk]

I like your thinking but no. Where are you in the game?

[static spear]

Pretty early still dont really have a way to say where exactly

Just doing side quests and going go heli crash sites occasionally

[lunar tusk]

Just keep playing and you'll find him eventually.

Btw if you start getting bored of the first area at some point, don't be afraid of going to the jupiter area to explore new places. There's more artifacts there too. You can get there by talking to Pilot in the skadovsk bar area.

It costs money to travel between the 2 areas, but you basically just need to find a single artifact and sell it to afford a couple trips already.

[static spear]

Yea its like 3k but im already at a point where thats nothing

I didnt know thats the only way to travel between those areas thx for the info

[lunar tusk]

Yeah it's the only way, can't go hunt for your own route

[static spear]

@lunar tusk is it worth it to sell pdas and documents, laptops etc to owl?

Tbh i dont really like him and that little bit of cash isn't worth selling for information that I might need/want

[lunar tusk]

Some of them have other uses than being sold, but they really start to clog up the inventory and you cant move them into storage without getting a mod that allows it

If you want to find other uses for them without looking at guides, I would get a mod that lets you store them

[static spear]

Im on ps5 so sadly no mods and only EE versions

[lunar tusk]

There's a mod for it in the EE version on PC, but are there absolutely no mods on the PS5 version?

[static spear]

There is mod.io but idk what it really is

[lunar tusk]

It's not really viable to just hang onto them in your inventory because they all have weight

[static spear]

And AFAIK if I mod the game (like in Minecraft or fallout) I won't get any trophys which I want

[lunar tusk]

I would probably just bite the bullet and check each of them online to see if they are safe to sell. You can search for individual items on this page with ctrl+F https://cop.zsg.dk/Items_Misc.php#Misc_Items

Or just browsing the alphabetical list

[static spear]

I dont have keyboard so I guess I'll just read

But ty

[lunar tusk]

The system with them is kinda made for replayability because there's no way anyone would figure out where they "belong" without a ton of hours in the game

[static spear]

Yea i see that

What if on the website it says just where to find it but not what to do with it

Is it safe to sell then cause no other use ?