⭐┃trilogy-general

[rocky elm]

Finally, someone actually bringing up good points

Maybe another reddit post detailing this will help GSC? The last one worked so far

[late condor]

I don't want to overdo it, let's see the direction they take the game in first!

[rocky elm]

Yeah good call

[real raft]

i'm mostly concerned about artwork personally so for me the big ones are better lighting (screenspace reflections, for instance, do apply to weapons which have very poor lighting in the original games) and support for newer formats

[earnest raptor]

original is always better

[real raft]

will also be interesting to see if the new rendering framework handles things like high res models/textures better if you have a lot of them in the game

since directx 12 has much better access to your graphics card without having to take the scenic route there (part reason why the old games can be stuttery/poorly frame-paced in places)

[rocky elm]

Sad they botched yet another launch, but the future is looking bright

wish we could leave this tradition behind and just get good day 1 releases but ah well

[real raft]

shadow of chernobyl killed my poor geforce 6600gt in 2007

[rocky elm]

Think the bluryness issue is the biggest one so far, if they fix that it would be good progress

[real raft]

died in the middle of agroprom underground

[rocky elm]

May it rest in peace

Absolutely

[real raft]

yeah dlss would be nice for those with nvidia cards since the latest versions look much better than native resolution but i'm curious what the actual underlying cause of the blurriness is and whether they can solve it in future updates

[rocky elm]

Replaying the games made me realise how good the lighting is and the shadows, I'm impressed by today's standards, I can't imagine what it was like in 2007

[rocky elm]

My only guess is the resolution output being lower than stated in the options. On 4K the games look fine but anything below that and you get a good representation of having cataracts

[real raft]

it's definitely one of those games where it looked both incredibly futuristic and dated in some aspects at the same time

yeah could be lower internal resolution or something akin to TAA where you have several frames smearing together over time

[rocky elm]

Same

[real raft]

i mostly worked with unreal at my old job and TAA is one of those double edged swords where you kinda need it for certain effects/approaches if you don't want a shimmery mess but at the same time it do be real blurry

[rocky elm]

Lots of people hate TAA and rightfully so. Upscalling like DLSS and FSR are a god sent nowadays.

[real raft]

for older games you can get away with things like oldschool MSAA but modern engines tend to have a lot of shader based effects and you can only ever deal with that with post-process solutions or supersampling

[rocky elm]

I was thinking that adding back supersampling would be a great way to fix the blur issues but it would make the games even more demanding on top of the additions that came with EE.

[real raft]

yeah i was running it at 8k on a 4k screen earlier for some screenshots and it does look great like that but 50fps isn't so great 😆

[rocky elm]

I love the sunk hospital near the end of the game and Limansk, those are probably my favourite locations in the franchise

A lot of people hate Clear Sky, it's definitely not my favourite as well but the locations it added are some of the best out of all the games

[real raft]

i really liked the faction wars mechanic as well even if it wasn't very polished

[rocky elm]

Yeah I was blown away by it even if it was pretty broken, I do wish they expanded on it more.

I love how it looks during the day too, very good location.

[real raft]

tbh very controversial take but clear sky might be my fave out of the trilogy, i never got as into call of pripyat and i really miss weapon upgrades/weapon repair etc when i'm playing SoC

[rocky elm]

Honestly I had the same opinion before, Clear Sky is definitely very underrated. But I just love SoC and the CNPP sections too much

honestly one of the main reasons why I replay SoC from time to time.

[whole geyser]

wish cop was as good as soc

[real raft]

the graphical improvements in CS at the time were super impressive too since it came out so soon after SoC but looked muuuuuuch better

[rocky elm]

Call of Pripyat for me is a much more polished experience with the best side quests and exploration, but SoC has the best story and atmosphere for me. Funilly enough I replay CoP the least often out of the 3 games.

[rocky elm]

Yeah kinda like Stalker 2 right now, looks amazing and easily one of the best looking games ive played but super demanding and unoptimised.

Guess we will have to wait and see if they will add it in Stalker 2 with expansions.

[real raft]

one really noteworthy thing with stalker 2 as well compared to the trilogy for me is that the asset work is excellent as well, in the trilogy a lot of the visual quality was carried by the engine/shaders and general art direction but the actual asset work wasn't all that great

[rocky elm]

Yeah honestly really brings the world to look alive in S2

[real raft]

whereas stalker 2 asset work is definitely like "inspiration folder material" for me and it's gonna be a tough act for modders to match the quality of the vanilla artwork in that game whenever the SDK comes out

[rocky elm]

really curious what people will be able to come up with when the SDK comes out

stalker modding is such a great thing, future is looking bright

[hallow thunder]

Remake trilogy in S2

[real raft]

yeah i definitely wanna make some new guns for s2, especially ones we had in the trilogy but not there like the lr300

[rocky elm]

Replacing every texture and sound effect with bitcrushed ones and turning the helicopters into rotating vodka bottles

[rocky elm]

Why do I get the feeling people will actually do that

[hallow thunder]

[rocky elm]

One thing that impressed me a lot was the weapons in S2, animation quality is amazing, very good attention to detail. They really stepped up their game in that aspect

[eternal iris]

leave my million dollar corporation alone...

[rocky elm]

Honestly seems doable, cant wait to see what happens

[rocky elm]

Yeah leave it alone 😔

Or if people make custom quests

And the guidelines GSC sets too

[real raft]

yeah the textures have so much life as well, you can see machining marks etc

the art team did an incredible job with that game

[rocky elm]

Yeah absolutely, honestly considering how realistic and beautiful the game looks with it's world and attention to detail, I can understand why it's so demanding

still needs optimisation though absolutely

[real raft]

how long is it gonna take for people to port S2 guns into the trilogy when the SDK is out 😆

[rocky elm]

I give them a week to be honest lol

[worn fable]

Stalker cs EE new patch still dont fix agroprom bugtrap🙃

[real raft]

the main thing is they're gonna look flat as hell with the original lighting, you'd optimally want to bake some lighting into the textures but no one bothers to do that for mods as-is

part reason why a lot of mod weapons don't look great in the trilogy even if the asset work is good

[rocky elm]

I get the feeling the first mods that do that will be something like the ones in Gmod where people port guns from the new modern warfares

where the weapons look out of place but are almost 1 to 1 copies

[real raft]

#🔩┃trilogy_modifications message this was built with similar workflows as S2 weapons but I baked light for a better fit into the trilogy

it's a bit annoying to set up sometimes but definitely helps a lot with not looking as flat and fitting the vanilla artstyle since the default weapons have those strongly lit phototextures

[rocky elm]

Looks really good, nice 😄

I remember one of the Makarov models in Anomaly having fingers in the magazine instead of visible bullets since they looked almost the same lol

pretty clever workaround

[dense axle]

I'm assuming that enhanced edition is underdeveloped but will be receiving updates for a lot longer than the trilogy

That and consoles are the main reason for it

[rocky elm]

Has some major issues but GSC is already adressing some things with patches

still a long way to go but things are looking up for now

[dense axle]

Right

Nothing seems structurally unfixable

[rocky elm]

With a little luck EE might even become the best way to play the games vanilla, but only the future will tell

[late condor]

ironically if I understand that correctly, PS4, Xbox One, Switch ain't receiving updates naymore.

[rocky elm]

Do those versions have the blur issue too? Not really up to date on them

[late condor]

i do not know for sure

probably not, haven't heard people complain until EE release

[rocky elm]

Same, just hoping GSC doesn't call it a day and leave EE as it is with only the blur being fixed

[hallow thunder]

They quickly deployed this patch to shut us up

I bet they are working on big patch

[rocky elm]

Think they released it this fast to show us they are gonna be patching things up

Hope they adress all the flaws of the EE

[late condor]

I intend to make like a 40min video on ALL the downgrades and sloppy work in ALL areas.

but it's gonna take a while

[rocky elm]

Doing god's work brother, thank you

[whole geyser]

i do hope they talk and address the community soon

cuz the calling us russians thing was outlandish

[rocky elm]

Transparency is needed, dev blogs or streams or something

[whole geyser]

^

it goes a long way to rebuilding community goodwill

[rocky elm]

the gsc answers channel is good but not enough to keep people informed i feel like

[whole geyser]

tbh i feel they should just do one big answer of multple questions once a week or something

[late condor]

wait

@whole geyser you just lost the mod badge

[rocky elm]

Yes, the roadmaps were a step in the right direction even if it's only for one QA at a time

[whole geyser]

oh man looks like i just got kicked off the mod team

[eternal iris]

LMFAO

[late condor]

not surprised after the argument you had with charcharo tbh, at least you're not banned

[whole geyser]

yeah man they kicked me off the mod team for not being xenophobic to all russians

[late condor]

bye bye image perms

[jovial pawn]

Skill issue

[rocky elm]

damn:/

[whole geyser]

eh i dont hate all russians so whatever

[jovial pawn]

People when you have a functioning brain

[whole geyser]

i defended the og trilogy having its ussr symbols and russian language the way gsc themselves made the game

[late condor]

i think it was more due to saying gsc is as bad as stalin lol

[whole geyser]

revisionism is revisionism

[rocky elm]

😬

[jovial pawn]

The zone is literally a place frozen in time since the soviet era bruh

[whole geyser]

fr man

100% man read my chat history i defended artistic vision

[jovial pawn]

They are, Russian is also prohibited to speak if i remember well

[whole geyser]

im not pro Z i just love the trilogy how it was made

[jovial pawn]

Anyways

[late condor]

Any language other than English and Ukrainian is.

[rocky elm]

Maybe if you talk to Mol1t or any of the managers? Mol1t helped me out once on here, very good guy

[whole geyser]

naw if they are gonna do this to me i dont wanna be a part of the team anymore its too political now

[rocky elm]

Shame it has to be this way:/

[whole geyser]

i love stalker for what it was not what it is now

fr i loved being a part of the team

[rocky elm]

It's insane just how far reaching the consequenes of war are

[whole geyser]

tell me about it man

[rocky elm]

Sadly:/

Oh there's Mol1t typing, hope he can help you @whole geyser

yeah oops lol

[plucky trench]

I dmed you the reasons, and even said that if you are ready to take a break, we would be happy to have you back, but . I understand that the community is unhappy with how EE launch went, but clearly ignoring all the instructions and diving into discussing political details 24/7 is not good.
I was letting users vent off their steam here, and we were not so strict on the usual rules of server, but everythig has its limits. When users see moderator saying things like "you use discord an american app yet the us gov killed millions of muslims, nuked japanese and hell obama blown up hospitals and afgan weddings with drones the hypocrisy is comical" they think it is how the things are going on the server, but rules 8 and 14 exist.
Anyways, thank you for your service

[whole geyser]

thats fair maybe i will return one day but i think a break is needed for now tbh

appreciate that the door isnt fully closed if i have a change of heart i will stop getting political going forward

[crystal bolt]

Rip

[whole geyser]

ill still be around as stalker is my favorite franchise

[rocky elm]

Glad to hear the door isn't fully closed, hope all is well going forward

[crystal bolt]

😬this can't look good for gsc lmfao

[rocky elm]

What, this interaction?

[crystal bolt]

Yeah and ee on top of it lmfao

[whole geyser]

naw it makes sense i went too far honestly and i accept that i got to passionate about a franchise i love and used extreme politcal comparisons

im just glad the door is open if i ever did want to return i shouldnt have gotten so political and i own this

[rocky elm]

I mean the EE part yeah but this interaction actually is a good look

Mol1t is being pretty fair and knowing the context now, all got cleared up

[rain peak]

@plush beacon you were here and didn't tell me? You fricking Bulgarian brother

[rocky elm]

Mozi you're Bulgarian too 😳

[rain peak]

No

[rocky elm]

😔

Anyways Bulgaria mentioned 🇧🇬 🔥 🗣️

[whole geyser]

🗣️🔥

[rain peak]

If it helps, I'm neighbour of Bulgaria

[rocky elm]

Romania? 🤔

[rain peak]

[rocky elm]

Wait hold on

you said Bulgarian brother, Macedonia?

[rain peak]

No, you guessed earlier)

Anyway, I wanted to say that: I'm still waiting on the Romanian localisation for S2, Mol1t

[rocky elm]

Ah, still based

[indigo ore]

It doesn't look good ever since the STALKER 2 delays but this part we can let go as it was a brand new product on a brand new platform for them

[indigo ore]

Mozi is Romanian
He can't hide he's from the Gypsy Land. 😄

[rocky elm]

Romania is a neighbour of Bulgaria so that automatically means every Romanian is based too

[indigo ore]

Hmm. Ain't gon comment on that.

[whole geyser]

every stalker is based

[rocky elm]

🇧🇬 🤝 🇷🇴

[indigo ore]

You based a real based base

[whole geyser]

thank you but you're the real king of based i am but only in your shadow

[indigo ore]

[whole geyser]

lol

🤝

[vapid minnow]

Pik

[indigo ore]

[fleet tundra]

So did the 1.0.1 patch fix the resolution scaling issue?

[green yew]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[green yew]

i love that, on the other hand, the "all games are political" is used to handwave away the blatant censorship of the EE 💀

[soft topaz]

third time in a row now i have gone to a level change in SoC and in the loading screen it has completely frozen, cant tab out, cant alt f4, nothing, only fix was to completely restart pc, thank you stalker, very kind

[green yew]

YEAH MAN JUST LIKE TES AND FALLOUT ong we're cursed to be part of fandoms that are heading to the garbage heap 💀

[charred tusk]

Next time your PC boots open Task Manager, click settings and set it to be always on top

[rocky elm]

Happened to me too, ctr alt delete multiple times and move the cursor around and click

helped but its very inconsistent, for me it might be because I alt tab every minute or so to work so it doesnt tag me as inactive lol

[green yew]

the changes in Stalker 2 that were in similiar spirit to the censorship in EE could be more excused as it was a new product being made (and you COULD argue that it was their "artistic vision" etc.)

however its much different when they go back to 20 year old games, literally make them worse with lazy AI upscaling, added bugs and performance issues, increase game price and arguably very cringe-worthy revisionism/censorship, that in a stroke of irony is something the post-ussr russia would do💀

[rocky elm]

Yeah at least they are going back on the changes, lets hope they bring the trilogy back to how it was without the changes

[green yew]

its sad it was something they did in the first place

[indigo ore]

Das what I was saying

[green yew]

i am a big supporter of ukraine as is and very much feel for them since im eastern european too, but 💩 is 💩 and pulling stuff like this does NOT make them look good in any way

[green yew]

also this whole debacle on discord and forums doesnt help AT ALL

the fact people who were negatively reviewing and criticizing the release were called russian sympathizers by GSC, and people who criticize it here get harsh punishments and get dogpilled and name called is wild

[whole geyser]

Fr i got called a russian stooge for being anti censorship

[hallow thunder]

Everyone was

[green yew]

the fact this isnt coming just from random members

but UA mods (which arguably should be demoted alongside you)

but also GSC themselves is CRAZY

the fact YOU were demoted but, to my recollection, the people dogpiling people who criticize GSC/EE, stayed in their positions 💀

which also goes against what Mol1t said in response to your demotion

[jagged quail]

My two cents: I wouldn’t necessarily use the term “censorship”, since the original versions are still accessible — they’re even included with the remaster trilogy. Censorship would mean removing access to the originals entirely. From my point of view, they’re free to do whatever they want with the remasters.

[green yew]

ofc theyre free to do what they want, its their property

but then you fet backlash like this

and while original versions are still available, access to them has been made more difficult

[zinc haven]

More difficult?

[green yew]

and it is still censorship regardless

[green yew]

the original versions are delisted from steam and can only access them through a link or by buying the EE versions for more money

[zinc haven]

Eh 2 games for price of 1 and reviews let you know whats up

[rocky elm]

Nah the price bump was not a good thing tbh

[green yew]

its really not "2 games for the price of 1"

[jagged quail]

that's a very strong argument that you present here ^^

[rocky elm]

had the EE versions been better than the og versions, I'd say the price increase is justified

but sadly they're currently not

[green yew]

another issue tied to that

original stalkers were heavily discounted a lot

i dont think the EE versions will go on such deep discounts any time soon due to being new releases

[zinc haven]

Discounts will match what it was in a year

[rocky elm]

Don't know anything about that, only time will tell so lets hope for the best

[green yew]

look up the definition of censorship and/or video game censorship, limiting access is just one part of censorship

[rocky elm]

To be honest the GOG old versions are still listed, dunno why the steam versions aren't

[green yew]

individual games went as low as 4€ on Steam for the past two years minimum (thats as far as SteamDb shows)

i sincerely doubt these discounts will return any time soon

if they do, kudos to them

[rocky elm]

Time will tell

[green yew]

another W for gog

also they are listed

but still increased price lol

[rocky elm]

GOG is great

[jagged quail]

From my point of view the access is not limited, but let's agree to disagree 🙂

[zinc haven]

Something something reusing store slot so they dont have to pay for new slots

[rocky elm]

Are store slots that expensive ? Genuinely know next to nothing about how much they cost

[zinc haven]

Dont know do corporations get shafted differently but for indie folk its 100 per store page

[green yew]

increasing the price and delisting the original games from steam is the definition of limiting access

[zinc haven]

Tbf have you ever seen "remaster" going for same price as original?

[rocky elm]

Thats what i know too about indies but theres definitely different pricing for bigger companies

[green yew]

thats a good point

and it has more to do with remasters being overpriced and usually priced as a whole new release

except some exceptions (oblivion remaster as one)

and its still limitation of access, its just that usually its not such a big deal and people eat up the cost

also, with most remasters, they dont delist the original from stores (at least when looking and newly released, popular remasters)

issue is that EE is fundementally broken, lazily made AND you get upcharged for it

[rocky elm]

If they fix up EE and make it the best way to play the games, I'd be behind the price increase full heartedly

so long as its within a 10 dollar range

[zinc haven]

Wont deny that. As for remasters doing this Metro Exodus EE did same where they deleted OG page

[rocky elm]

I also don't think the delisting and price increase are done solely for censorship sake, I think it's just with profits in mind

[green yew]

agreed

i am supporting the idea of the trilogy remaster

the execution? absolutely not

if they get rid of the garbo AI upscaling and censorship and polish out the bugs, hell yeah

though with each passing day its much harder to support GSC as anything they do just leaves a sour taste in my mouth ever since S2 launch

[zinc haven]

From tech standpoint... Did they shove DX12 into xray engine or whats up with under the hood

[rocky elm]

understandable, I wish we could leave this tradition of releasing things in a bad technical state or with missing features and then fixing it up as it goes behind

[rocky elm]

A person with modding experience on here said DX12 will help with modding but time will tell

[green yew]

thats true

i also thought about the oblivion remaster, ffvii, resident evil and so on

[zinc haven]

More interested to know what they did to the engine

And home come FSR but no DLSS since implementing one makes shoving other in pretty much trivial matter

[rocky elm]

Yeah wonder whats up with that too

[green yew]

solely? absolutely not im certain of that

but theyre also not really trying hard to prove otherwise, especially since the stuff GSC employees are saying about negative reviews and reviewers

also, knowing the current politics at the company, im sure it played a role

[green yew]

yeah

ESPECIALLY with gsc

its literally like they learned nothing from the disaster that was S2 launch

the fact someone at the company ok'd the launch of EE is crazy

[rocky elm]

Possible I suppose, well whats done is done, lets hope they fix up EE fully

[zinc haven]

Is this still that one screenshot from what molt said?

[green yew]

i mean imma be fr

neigher fsr or dlss dont have any reason to be in the remaster, especially due to the nature of the remaster

[rocky elm]

I was surprised about the addition too but more options is always a good thing

[zinc haven]

True. Im just sucker for DLAA on older games

[whole geyser]

The games are so old fsr and dlss aint even needed

[green yew]

i dont know what screenshot you mean in particular, im sure one of them was that yeah

[rocky elm]

Yeah but the performance requirement bump with EE is noticeable, people on lower end PC might need upscalling to crank everything to max

[green yew]

more options yes

issue is, its there just because the remaster is lazily made, not because of options

[whole geyser]

Ah didn't think about that

[rocky elm]

Think someone on here said it's unplayable on a 980, dont quote me on that though

[green yew]

yeah, and thats the issue with the remaster

it doesnt look nearly great enough to be so demanding that you need go use FSR to run it

if your pc struggles with the EE to the point you need upscaling

the literal original games will give you better graphical fidelity at better performance lol

[rocky elm]

I was raising eyebrows at why FSR was set to native as the default option, I definitely think Mataboo knew they messed something up with the resolution and did that as a bandaid fix, but only speculating

[zinc haven]

Since technically its not false since there were some reviews that fit what he said. But really developer should never say anything about getting bombed since you know folk take it as it means everyone

[rocky elm]

The visual imporvements with EE are actually pretty noticeable, but still it shouldn't be this demanding

[grizzled rock]

mornevan has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rocky elm]

Wolf back at it again 😔

[green yew]

yeah, its not

"oh this feature is nice lets add it"

its "oh damn this is so bad we need upscaling"

[zinc haven]

I mean these crutches when not upscaling do pretty good job as AA

[rocky elm]

Possible

[whole geyser]

Ngl they shoulda ported the trilogy to the cryengine

[zinc haven]

I mean i think stalker 2 should have been on it

[whole geyser]

Fr man

[rocky elm]

They should have ported the trilogy to UE5

kidding kidding

[whole geyser]

Cursed

[zinc haven]

Alife would have been actually possible without brute forcing and melting cpu's lol

[zinc haven]

Radiation death coming right up

[rocky elm]

⚰️

[green yew]

its not false entirely, ofc there will be some people like that, just like with the S2 launch or in general

but making blanket statements like this about all of the criticism

and supporting the silencing of criticism on official outlets by banning people/giving them harsher punishments than necessary and dogpiling on them and namecalling (especially saying this with some mods in mind in particular)

doesnt help their case, at all

and at this point it just feels like backpaddling due to the backlash

[zinc haven]

But tbh they could have done what oblivion did and use UE5 as wrapper for remasters

[whole geyser]

Like what I dmd you

[zinc haven]

Performance hit is abysmal but since modern hardware can do it "it just works"

[abstract nimbus]

2043: Stalker trilogy with ray tracing

[rocky elm]

Yeah i dunno about that one, the oblivion remaster is great but visuals are not that good imo to justify the extreme performance requirements

[abstract nimbus]

2061: Stalker with path tracing

[green yew]

yeah , and we also have the visual inprovements where the AI botched stuff entirely 💀

and, yeah, regardless, a 20 year old game shouldnt run like this

the remaster runs like this due to bad/lazy optimization and lazily implemented AI upscaling, not because its super graphically demanding

[whole geyser]

Software lumen update today

[zinc haven]

Dont forget neural shaders and whatnot

[rocky elm]

I've only seen some HUD elements be botched from AI, the texture work looks just about the same to me in the games so far

[abstract nimbus]

2077: play stalker in metaverse

[green yew]

probably wouldve looked better while running at least as bad as the current EE💀

[zinc haven]

Under the hood its just abomination lol

[green yew]

yeah

[whole geyser]

That one was bs

[green yew]

yeah, modern hardware just brute forces its way through it

[zinc haven]

Tbh we actually might see more of these ue5 wrapper remasters in coming years

[abstract nimbus]

imagine gsc asking bethesda to remake stalker

[whole geyser]

Would be good imo

Mataboo did NOT cook

[zinc haven]

Interactive trash in the map? Im in

[green yew]

i will have to disagree

the performance requirements are not that extreme compared to similiar games, especially when comparing to other UE5 titles

and the game does like quite beautiful given the constraits set on the dev team

[candid fern]

“There are other settlements that need your help”

[zinc haven]

God no

[candid fern]

PTSD triggered.

[whole geyser]

Fallout 4 > stalker 2

[rocky elm]

I dunno for me it runs worse than S2 and the benchmark YouTube creator that I used to optimise my settings said himself that he doesn't think the visuals are good enough to justify the requirements. That's just what I'm basing it on.

[zinc haven]

Optimize settings yourself lazy pleb. Dont listen to youtuber "eXpErT"

[whole geyser]

"Why optimize just get a good pc"

[rocky elm]

BenchMarking is a pretty good source though, he shows every setting side by side and gives details on just about everything. Heavilly recommend it.

[zinc haven]

Eh dont need youtubers tell me whats good

[whole geyser]

Remember Todd howard said our games fine for starfield and yalls pcs just suck?

[rocky elm]

You do you man, but still think you should give his videos a shot, it's very detailed.

[green yew]

for me personally it runs at max settings at 200-360fps, with minimal stutters and most importantly, 120fps feels like 120fps, which i find not to be the case in S2

the graphics arent exceptional for sure, but theyre much more stylized than S2

moreso than the actual graphical quality, the remaster suffers more from artistic changes

[candid fern]

Insert ‘it just works’ meme.

[abstract nimbus]

16 times the detail

[whole geyser]

I wish I had my img perms still fr

[rocky elm]

Are you using FG or MFG?

[green yew]

mind you, i DID have performance issues when the game released, but i changed that with some graphical tweaks and most importantly a driver update

[zinc haven]

Welcome to plebhood

[abstract nimbus]

[green yew]

FG + FSRQ on both

[rocky elm]

Oh that explains it

[whole geyser]

[green yew]

FG made stalker 2 much better when it comes to responsiveness funnily enough

[rocky elm]

Yeah the benchmark dude said it's a great implementation, almost no input lag added so long as you keep the baseline fps above 60 and visually its good too

[green yew]

the remaster literally looks better 😭

[zinc haven]

For me i can still "feel" the "vsync lag" with it

[green yew]

yeah, i have like 100+ on native, so fg makes the remaster smooth and less prone to stutters

[zinc haven]

Just have to give up on stalker 2 until i get my cheaprear to get new cpu

[green yew]

oh yeah no, i can still feel it, like S2 to me always felt "odd"

but without fg it was much worse

[rocky elm]

For me I get almost no stutters in S2 but in Oblivion I get lots of travelsal stutters, also there are random shader compilations mid gameplay which ruins FPS for a minute or so.

[indigo ore]

I was called pro-russian by many, albeit I never was, go figure these days

[zinc haven]

I mean its typical unreal engine shenanigans... All have this same stupid feel to it which is why i dislike unreal games

[whole geyser]

Ong haha

[indigo ore]

I don't expect GSC to offer apology for literally calling every single person on earth "Russian bot" though

[whole geyser]

I hope they do

[rocky elm]

I understand the UE5 hate but I still thinks its up to the devs to make it workable, not the engine itself being the issue. The Finals is a great looking game and runs like a dream too on UE5.

[indigo ore]

If not at least come out with proof of your words - maybe they really can find real evidence everyone is russian bot, lmao

[green yew]

what are your settings?

i would definitely suggest turning down shadows and screenspacs reflections

also, try out different drivers

for me, the stutter issue was fixed completely by updating to a newer (pre-release though) driver

[zinc haven]

Problem would not exist if UE5 didnt exist

[indigo ore]

Like, can't just 1 damn developer keep politics into the politics field and games in the games field

[rocky elm]

Everything on Epic, only Shadows on High and Ambient Occlusion on Medium.

[green yew]

it makes it really hard to support them and root for their success

[regal pasture]

Fun statement

[rocky elm]

Or if devs put the time needed to make it work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[indigo ore]

How it is fun, lol

[zinc haven]

Aint gonna happen

[indigo ore]

There are video game developers and then there are politicians

[green yew]

"all games are political" 🤓 ☝️

[rocky elm]

With how normalised shoddy releases these days have become, I believe that too to be honest.

[regal pasture]

Cause everything in our life is pure politics.
And the concept of video games out of politics doesn't work.
Every game has political message, some more, some less

[green yew]

whats the political message behind fortnite

[indigo ore]

I'm eager to know

[sullen minnow]

Capitalism allows you to fight eminem as batman using a lightsaber

[zinc haven]

UE5 is build to speed up development considerably. More speed and close enough quality.

[green yew]

astrobot
kcd2
it takes two
split fiction
minecraft

and so on

witcher 3 idk

[regal pasture]

Lol

[regal pasture]

Lol

Let me laugh for a moment

[rocky elm]

I've heard its also filled with bloat as it is an all purpose engine, not specifically made for games.

[indigo ore]

Man, what is the political message behind Minesweepers? Sh/t can kill?

[zinc haven]

it takes two and split fiction message is: apes together strong

[rocky elm]

The message is playing with your girlfriend and having to constantly wait for her to get to where you are because she doesn't play games

[green yew]

laugh some more its the most coherent youve ever been

[regal pasture]

Left side agenda with aggressive culture of consumption.
It's easier that you thought, when you just think about it

[zinc haven]

"speedrun to sleep on couch" if its wife

[green yew]

games are often political but arent inherently political, its just due to the nature of art as a whole

issue is when you handwave criticism with "all games are political"

[zinc haven]

That sht was rigged from the start

[abstract nimbus]

all paintings and music is political

I came to know today

[green yew]

of all the takes ive ever seen that is one of them for sure💀

[whole geyser]

Isn't the right side more about consumption

[dense rose]

guys i wanna buy the enhanced trilogy. did they fix the blurry texture issue with the latest patch?

[green yew]

games with political undertones are fine

issue is when the politics take front stage at the cost of the quality of the game

[regal pasture]

Basically stalker is bloody political

There's too many messages

[grizzled rock]

mornevan has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[regal pasture]

Main problem- they understandable only for the ua bois

[rocky elm]

Not yet sadly

[green yew]

issue is when politics take center stage and the cost of game quality like with a lot of recent releases (Veilguard, Forespoken, and Stalker EE lol)

[zinc haven]

Heh imagine being veilguard writer and last thing on your resume is that after you got sacked

[green yew]

stalker is absolutely political in some ways I agree

none of them would warrant the censorship in EE, especially since most of the politcal undertones show how screwed the ussr/eastern block was

[regal pasture]

And basically big part of ua bois are good with deletion of commi symbols in the new trilogy, with the expection of Stella in the cnpp

(Like we literally have a law, that forbid show of commi symbols)

[green yew]

thats so neat, however

historical revisionism

[indigo ore]

[regal pasture]

It's a choice of gsc and im good with it personally

[green yew]

"ua bois" are literally doing themselves a disservice with all of this

[indigo ore]

Which symbols exactly?

[regal pasture]

Mostly everything from the commi

Red stars, flag, etc

[zinc haven]

Were it history book sure, video game eh..

[green yew]

its literally like going into wolfenstein, removing any and all nono germany symbols and imagery and justifying it by saying "nono germany idealogy is bad"

[indigo ore]

Bruh, thats harsh, lol

[zinc haven]

Is Heineken beer banned too?

[indigo ore]

I find Swastikas being well argumented to be removed but stars, typical flags... thats gone too far but its just me

[whole geyser]

Tbh with removing all that stuff it implies Ukraine caused the disaster through incompetence and that's a self own as it was the USSR fault not Ukraine

[blazing nimbus]

I think people fail to recognize that, especially in this entire debacle of “censorship and revisionism”.

People also fail to realize that this is a personal choice from GSC in which can be reverted upon one’s own volition through the games easy modding system.

[indigo ore]

D.I.S.
D.I.S.
D.I.S.

[regal pasture]

They do it for German version, lol

Like now its a game made by Ukrainians for ukrainians

[hallow thunder]

But only for germans

[indigo ore]

Anyway I'm off cooking, be back later

[regal pasture]

That how I saw this new trilogy

[whole geyser]

Take care

[rocky elm]

What you cooking good looking

[late condor]

good, can they leave it in ukrainian release and fix everywhere else?

just how wolfenstein does it!

[regal pasture]

Question not to me

[zinc haven]

I mean its not asscreed where they try to portray history

[hallow thunder]

Why not just censor it for UA release , I don't have problems with Soviet landmarks

[green yew]

does the EE have separate versions for countries? no

this is a garbo gsc choice made on their own, not to bend to (stupid) country laws

also, in Wolfenstein's case, its actually not an outrigt ban, its more of a "rating" issue and the fact distributors were against it

that symbolism is allowed in art in germany, which games do fall under

[whole geyser]

The ogs to me showed how dumb the ussr was and its huburis caused the disaster and now it's a memorial to failure stuck in time

[regal pasture]

Btw, work build is done, comeback to making software

[long badger]

@rocky elm Well they stripped console stuff, so you cant even debug your own mods properly

[green yew]

well we saw how that ended up💀

[zinc haven]

Money

[rocky elm]

Whats this a response to?

[long badger]

You said DX12 will help with modding but other stuff done to EE makes modding vastly undesirable

[green yew]

literally, the whole game (just like the irl event) really showcases the downsides of the soviet regime

them removing any mention to it is just so counterproductive 💀

[rocky elm]

Oh that, I was just relaying what a person earlier in the day was saying, they have years of modding experience it seems and were speculating, not outright saying it's a fact.

[hallow thunder]

The Soviet Landmarks were there in OG, they are part of the art and presentation in the game,part of the imerrsion. Getting political doesn't belong in a game, see what it brings now...

[green yew]

i sure hope they removed all the offending weapons in the EE release too💀

[whole geyser]

All weapons have been replaced with glocks and ar15s

[green yew]

literally

arguing for the censorship with "its anti communism" is dumb

the INCLUSION of those symbols

the fact chernobyl and pripyat themselves exist as they are in the game

THAT's anti communism in and of itself

[naive hollow]

It should be easily fixable by calling them Pripyatn't and Chernobyln't

[whole geyser]

I want Todd howard to make a stalker game set in ohio

[green yew]

also, arguing with "only UA bois get it" is insanely dumb and derogatory

[rocky elm]

You don't need to be part of a group to understand their struggles or empathise with them.

[green yew]

ive said before im eastern european too, i harbour no love for the soviet regime and i very much do understand what was going on

[candid fern]

Where fentanyl is the main currency of the game.

[rocky elm]

Same here.

[green yew]

handwaving people's input with "you dont get it" is wild

we've been screwed over ourselves by it, we suffered for it too

saying stuff like that just makes you and ukrainians themselves look bad , when literally everyone else disagreed with it

[marsh yoke]

We got fallout in london mate innit

[rocky elm]

Fallout Ohio when?

[long badger]

Why talk of Ohio?

[rocky elm]

Because it's funny.

[naive hollow]

STALKER: Shadow of Ohio

[long badger]

I'm from Youngstown. It literally looks like Misery 2

[rocky elm]

Try birmingham

I dont live there but I've heard legends of that sacred place.

Thanks for the reaction wolf?

[naive hollow]

Yeah, it's from the Wolf Quest

[candid fern]

Hahahaha, that’s from event.

[naive hollow]

Yeah kek

Event's over tho

[rocky elm]

Oh snap, is the answer Birmingham?

[naive hollow]

Nah

Legends

[candid fern]

Naw it’s cause you typed legends.

[rocky elm]

Kidding kidding, imagine though

[naive hollow]

But I guess that, if the bot still reacts to it, everyone can still get the R.Master role permanently

[long badger]

Legends of Zelda

[naive hollow]

I can post the cheat sheet in here, if y'all want the role kek

[rocky elm]

👀

Yeah why not

[candid fern]

Just giving out roles now are we? I’ll take some.

[naive hollow]

Hella

One sec

[rocky elm]

Spare roles? Spare roles please?

[crystal bolt]

free role please pls pls pls!!!

[candid fern]

Please sir, can I have some more roles.

[naive hollow]

1. #legends-of-the-zone legends
2. #🤨┃stalker_memes Сидорович - Лисий хитрий торгашисько! with any kind of pic attached, Sid pic for extra based points
3. #swamps and react with
4. Reply @grizzled rock I'm looking for Roma Master to #legends-of-the-zone message
5. Get Freedom role, go to #freedom and type GP37

Of course, you first have to activate the quest in #rookies-campfire

[zinc haven]

Effort

[candid fern]

Seriously though, gib me some roles, Explorer and Legend of the Zone will do.

[naive hollow]

Also, #swamps is all the way down the channel list

[naive hollow]

Explorer is an old role and no longer obtainable

You'll need Level 70 to get Legend of the Zone

[candid fern]

I knowwwww and it annoys the shit out of me..

[naive hollow]

[candid fern]

I hope they will redo some of the old ones so they can be obtained again.

[naive hollow]

I actually lost those when I banned

Luckily, I was able to get them back

[blazing nimbus]

What a comeback story. Banned - Senior Moderator?

[naive hollow]

Yeah lmfao

[rocky elm]

Was just about to ask that lol

[candid fern]

I would have thought being an admin you could have just given yourself any role? lol

[naive hollow]

Oh nah, we dont have access to giving and taking roles

Not anymore at least

Kinda wack, but it B wat it B

[rocky elm]

Ah wack

[naive hollow]

Hella

[candid fern]

Don’t lie breh, I’ll slide you a 20 bucks for some roles.

[naive hollow]

Make that 20 hours in C&C4 and I'll see what I can do for you

[candid fern]

Now there’s a series I haven’t touched since I was a kid.

[rocky elm]

Wait so how many messages do you need to send to get legend of the zone? I've sent like a thousand so far here and im only up to lvl 18 or so

[naive hollow]

So, you get XP each minute you post something. Amount of XP is random

You need to get to Level 70 to get Legend of the Zone

I've been here since 2019 tho

[candid fern]

I thought it was 20 for veteran btw?

[naive hollow]

Like, the very day this server went live

[rocky elm]

Yeah im not constantly active here too, only from time to time

[naive hollow]

25

[candid fern]

I’m still ages away

[rocky elm]

Do you get anything with that role like being able to post gifs or? Would be pretty cool lol

[blazing nimbus]

I gotta start upping my posts..

[candid fern]

Need to talk more crap.

[naive hollow]

Afraid not

It's just a flair

[rocky elm]

Ah well braggers rights

[naive hollow]

Ayup

https://mee6.xyz/leaderboard/504587323577729024

Here's the full list of Levels

And what you need to get which role

[green yew]

💀

[candid loom]

Oh, goodie. Can people stop whinging about censorship now?

[candid fern]

Start doing what @terse crypt does and anytime someone posts a cat pick you can go
Omg
Cat
And it’s not considered spam.

[native salmon]

what do i do guys, i just reached the first x lab and now im chickening out

[candid loom]

Full send

[native salmon]

😭

[naive hollow]

Depends tbh. If it's in an active convo, then I do consider it spam

[hallow thunder]

Just dew it

[candid loom]

It's scary, but if you got ammo and you are prepared then you will be okay. Just take it slow.

I used to be so scared of the underground areas and the labs, but now a days it's just like "OOOH NEW BOX TO BREAK"

[native salmon]

i have 200 bullets for fast ak

[candid fern]

You in the Dark Valley lab?

[candid loom]

What's your backup gun?

[native salmon]

x18

[hallow thunder]

You already won

[native salmon]

pm and i think i have mp5 in inventory

[candid fern]

Aye that’s the DV one, that’s not scary breh. Miracle Machine has a creepy vibe to it though and normally full of mutants.

[native salmon]

im scared of controller i have never met it yet

[candid loom]

You should be okay, yeah. What's the armor you got?

X18 doesn't have a controller iirc.

[hallow thunder]

In Agroprom you had to see it

[native salmon]

the one you get at bar

[native salmon]

i just go through a room that doesnt have it and skip it

[hallow thunder]

Oh you ran away okay

[candid loom]

It is possible to escape without killing the controller, yeah

I remember the first time I played I had no ammo at that part and just pure panic lmao

[native salmon]

does it have snork

[hallow thunder]

Yes

[candid fern]

If anything I don’t like Chimeras, at least you know when there’s a Controller nearby but a Chimera? Pffft, they’re silent and very deadly and normally you only know they’re there when they pounce at you.

[candid loom]

x18 has snorks.

Thankfully Soc doesn't have chimera or burer

[hallow thunder]

Wish it did

[native salmon]

😭

[candid loom]

Play ogse/r

[native salmon]

what

[candid loom]

Talking to roadkill

[native salmon]

ok

[candid loom]

You keep going as you are

[long badger]

I want Karlik

[candid loom]

There are a lot of crates and breakable boxes to loot, use your knife and get a bunch of meds and ammo and stuff

[candid fern]

Yeah man, enjoy the trilogy vanilla styles then we’ll talk about mods lol.

[hallow thunder]

I did heh, fun ride

[native salmon]

ok im entering the zone now

wish me luck!!!!!🤑 🍑

[terse crypt]

thats my job
get your own you uninspired brainfart

[native salmon]

i just found a dead body😭 😭

[candid loom]

You're gonna find a lot of those.

[candid fern]

I’ve seen a few others have started doing it, who do you think you are eh? Some kinda trend setter?

[native salmon]

flying crates

[terse crypt]

you dare use my own sticker against me

[native salmon]

whats the code

[candid fern]

[hallow thunder]

Check the bodies of scientists

[candid fern]

You’ll find it on a dead scientist.

[native salmon]

gang😭 🍑 🐅

i dont think i can do it gang 🐅

[candid loom]

You gotta, bro.

[hallow thunder]

[candid loom]

You can leave and go get more ammo if you need. Nothing is scary when you have 500 rounds of ammunition

[hallow thunder]

You must uncover the truth about X-labs stalker

[native salmon]

i dont wanna get jumpscared by john snork

[candid loom]

You know he's there, jumpscare him

[native salmon]

there is this crazy sound when i entered a room

[candid fern]

Agroprom is probably more scary since it has that bloodsucker or 2 and a Controller in it.. but I honestly don’t find Stalker to be a scary game.

[native salmon]

2 bloodsuckers in agroprom?

[candid fern]

It can have.

[native salmon]

fr?😭 🍑 🐅

[candid loom]

At least 2

[candid fern]

Not always though, sometimes it’s 1.

And something else instead of a second one.

[hallow thunder]

First time it's always one I think

[candid loom]

The scariest thing in x18 is the pseudogiant and even then you can cheese that by staying above

[candid fern]

Aye just stand in the doorway and feed it grenades lol.

[candid loom]

basicaly lol

That or get inside and get above it and just shoot at it from up there

[native salmon]

there is a ak with grenade launcher?

[terse crypt]

._.

[candid fern]

Cheese past it then grab the RPG.

[candid loom]

Yeah, in x18 there is one lol. that's a good one to use

[native salmon]

i found monolith suit is it good

[candid loom]

Is it better than your current suit?

[terse crypt]

ye

[swift nexus]

Is it possible to still get Fang's suit by searching other dead loners in Yantar?

For the EE version of Soc

[rocky elm]

According to people on the internet yes, I just reloaded the save before exiting the lab about 10 times till i got it

was a bit of a pain for sure

[native salmon]

something fell off from somewhere

[terse crypt]

yeah
that was the stalker franchise
it fell off when EE released

[abstract nimbus]

do you guys like radiophobia 3?

[native salmon]

I JUST KILLED 2 SNORKS

[native salmon]

😭

[abstract nimbus]

[candid fern]

I do bro, it’s pretty decent.

[swift nexus]

I meant like Loners that isn't Ghost

[rocky elm]

Yeah that's what I meant

[native salmon]

my screen is SHAKING

[rocky elm]

the first corpse after you drop down the hole out of the lab

[native salmon]

IS THAT A PSEUDOGIANT

[rocky elm]

for some reason you can't just quicksave right next to it and quickload till you get it

[terse crypt]

hehe

[native salmon]

no no no gang

[rocky elm]

so quicksave or manual save before dropping down the hole and start from there till you get the stash location

[terse crypt]

they easy to kill
I knifed a pseudogiant once

[native salmon]

no no no no no🥳 👽 🐑 🐅 🍑 i cant do this gang my screen is shakinhg

[candid fern]

Run past it, there’s an RPG in there you can use to kill it.

When it goes to thump the ground you can time the jump and it shouldn’t do any damage to you.

[native salmon]

does it like claw

[hallow thunder]

Bites

[terse crypt]

it does something a lot cooler
freaking powerslam

[native salmon]

🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅 🐅

[hallow thunder]

John Cena slam

[rocky elm]

Also did anyone else notice you now get the stunned effect if you take fall damage?

[hallow thunder]

Yeah, weird

[rocky elm]

at least in SoC? And you lose hearing for a sec or two

[abstract nimbus]

I take no damage

just the stun effects

[rocky elm]

Weird

fall damage was always a joke in the games but still

[abstract nimbus]

maybe a bit of health if I drop a lot higher

[rocky elm]

Oh so its working like normal

Yeah fall damage really isn't a thing in the old games, you can drop from very high up and not care

[native salmon]

i gave up im not going back there until i have 10 guns

[candid loom]

Get you some grenades for that grenade launcher

[native salmon]

where can i buy them

[candid loom]

Rostok probably

I'm sure barman will have some

maybe even sidor, but ehhh

[native salmon]

do normal grenades work

[candid loom]

Not in the rifle, but you can kill the pseudogiant with them, sure

[native salmon]

is the british gun good

[candid loom]

Decent, but you won't find ammo as easily where you currently are

But once you start venturing past the rostok and north, you will find more ammo for it

There is a special version of it somewhere, can't remember where off the top of my head.

[native salmon]

i think im just gonna chill around before i enter dark valley again

maybe explore some other places'

[candid loom]

Nothing wrong with that. You should do some artifact hunting. Good way to make money

[native salmon]

i have 40k rn

[rocky elm]

If this is SoC then it's even easier since artifacts are laying around everywhere like candy

[native salmon]

is the psuedogiant before you enter the code or after

[rocky elm]

Before

in a huge room, at one end of the room is a corpse of a scientist which will have the final code

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-helmet-warhammer-40k-space-marine-astartes-spacem-arine-armor-gif-9266730404172402530

[delicate blaze]

Hey guys, is there anyone who had the original SoC and did not get Enhanced edition? Is there a solution?

[terse crypt]

that is called a blessing

[delicate blaze]

Tech support takes a lot of time to reach, usually it takes a week for me

[indigo ore]

Gorilla vs. Snorks

[native salmon]

100 snorks vs 1 gorilla

is it only the pseudogiant and the 2 snorks?

in x18

[indigo ore]

How about 69 snorks versus 1 gorilla

[abstract nimbus]

100 men vs 1 gorilla

[native salmon]

100 sidorovich vs 1 bloodsucker

[indigo ore]

[graceful horizon]

100 gooners vs 1 mod

[abstract nimbus]

Degtyarev vs Strelok

[slow hearth]

STALKER - Downgrade Edition

[indigo ore]

Outcome: Mod wins if its Tankovic on board!

[indigo ore]

Strelok wins

[main orchid]

I kinda wonder what's up with the Clear Sky EE stashes

[crystal bolt]

has anyone put ee into DXVK yet?

[rose violet]

I think the CS stashes only disappear if you die and reload in the same area.
Which might be an old bug? It sounds very familiar to me anyways

[candid loom]

like 6 poltergeists, but they are pretty easy to deal with

[hearty topaz]

Original trilogy games gonna stay in shops?

"At the request of the publisher, S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl is unlisted on the Steam store and will not appear in search. " Wait what?

[whole geyser]

Yeah they should stay still

[hearty topaz]

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/35983 ok i found this bundle

But it doesnt show up on searches

I hope originals stays in shop . So i can buy them and mod them later

[granite jungle]

They will stay there, but are unlisted presumably because you get them free with the new versions

[candid loom]

You get the originals with EE. So either way you can get them.

[rich yarrow]

After patch 1.0.1 I've managed to launch SoC EE on linux. From the start I've noticed that it has a feature that original SoC doesn't have - you can navigate dialogues with W/S and choose your option with F. Unfortunately, the blurry screen is still present...

But yeah, at least it's not a direct downgrade. Let's see if I'll notice something else...

Ah... The biggest crime of EE is that there's no option for static lighting...

[whole dawn]

Any way to make the text size bigger on the original or EE versions on steamdeck? Even using mods?

I never understood why games get deck verified status when they contain unreadable text.

[crystal bolt]

There's some mods on the steam workshop for that iirc

[stray bolt]

did the original trilogy get removed off steam?

[regal pasture]

YOu can still find them by direct link.
And you will receive them when buyin enchanced edition

[dusty halo]

genuine and unbiased, is the trilogy worth?
Looks like there's some needless changes in the remasters and I still wanna give stalker series a shot while I wait for stalker 2 to be (fully) finished

heard some npc issues and gameplay issues from some, others say it's fine. War crap/censorship I don't care since I can just mod em' in

[candid fern]

Trilogy is definitely worth playing, you get both the enhanced version and the original trilogy when you buy it now so you’re not missing out on that. I’d say it’s worth playing on pc since you have access to hundreds of mods for each entry in the series.

[crystal bolt]

definitely. been a fan since 2020ish and still visit all 3 games like, once a year minimum

[candid fern]

Still worth getting on consoles too btw since vanilla OG stalker is peak asf.

[dusty halo]

I may get one in a few weeks then to get it a shot, gameplay looks alot more fleshed out then S2 for now

[crystal bolt]

lads does anyone know if ye can bump up the interenal rendering scale in ee

or some sh** just to temporarily fix the blur

[visual marsh]

when i try to load an an save it say "just play the Orignial game" pls help

what does it mean

[naive hollow]

To play the TrilOG instead of TrilogEE

[jaunty isle]

It's a steam workshop mod you installed lol

[visual marsh]

do you know the name?

nvm

[jaunty isle]

The one and only fix

[visual marsh]

dam the personne who made this

[jaunty isle]

it's based

[naive hollow]

It's based

[visual marsh]

its eliv

evil*

[jaunty isle]

chaotic good*

[naive hollow]

To be fair, the front page does have a pic of the main menu saying "Just Play Original Game" as well

[graceful horizon]

Tril...-Oh, gee...

[visual marsh]

bro :(

[naive hollow]

Should be as easy as uninstalling the mod

Or playing the original Trilogy

[fast salmon]

WHAT DID THEY PATCH

[fast karma]

Wdym

[fast salmon]

1.0.1 Patch for EE

[fast karma]

Patched first crash reports, added back some level elements, and I think saves issue

In short

There is no detailed patch log, so that's about all I can tell

[fast salmon]

so no graphicsal fixes yet damn

[fast karma]

Blur thing is coming next, mostly

Not sure if it was already included or not

Idk, you should see for yourself as I don't own the thing, so I can't really check myself

[pure hemlock]

First time STALKER player.

Playing the enhanced trilogy one at a time. Shadow Of Chornobyl

[whole geyser]

Hope.you enjoy

[grizzled rock]

itsmecairolee has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pure hemlock]

UGH

It's REALLY hard.

How do you guys deal with it?

Yahtzee was right. You NEED to bind a button as the "Quick save" button.

[candid loom]

I got really good at saving very fast

I liked that stalker 2 let you quicksave by hitting start then y

[pure hemlock]

I'm stuck with the very first game

[candid loom]

My best advice is to take it slow and when you save, don't overwrite your last save, make a new one, then delete the oldest few

[pure hemlock]

It's harder than Chinese Arithmetic and i'm on the normal diffiulty!

[candid loom]

and you can play on rookie or stalker and still have great fun

[fast karma]

You'll get used to it in due time, dw about it. When you do, you'd be having the best fun you had in a while

[pure hemlock]

Stuck just outside a train station fighting for my damn life from bandits.

And the guys i literally JUST saved aren't even waltzing outside to help me.

[fast karma]

I remember my first, so it's normal

We all kinda had the same first run, being harassed by the easiest enemies the game has to offer

Well, these moments are the best in my opinion

Like, as soon as you get well versed, you'd kinda feel like you're bullying the game

[pure hemlock]

It's not easy!

[fast karma]

These bandits you are fighting are cakes for us. I believe you are helping the stalkers in the hangar from the bandit raid. These fellas only has PMs, MP5s, and double barrel.

I mean, for a first timer., it is in fact hard

Probably frustrating at some point

[pure hemlock]

Yeah but the assault rifle drains health faster than you can say "Pass the vodka"

[fast karma]

But again, you'll get used to gameplay and understand the zone better, and by then you'd eat these ducks alive

[fast karma]

MP5s, the have no assault rifles
It's only that impactful because you have low res, and the SMG has a high rate of fire

[pure hemlock]

I'm on PS5

[fast karma]

Try to use cover often, and be don't just get on the line of fire directly. Try to make side jumps and take them out as they attack other stalkers

[pure hemlock]

Literally got shot through a brick wall and died lmao

[wise cedar]

hey everyone, i have seen enhanced editions have released for the original trilogy on steam and i was wondering why the reviews are mixed?

[late condor]

There are more downgrades than upgrades currently but devs are working on fixing those. Not worth it for the time being

[wise cedar]

oh ok thanks for the help! I got them for free anyways since i own the original games

[late condor]

Yeah not worth a play rn until the issues get fixed

[karmic horizon]

Garbage

Yantar

Cordon

Red Forest

[livid hare]

bugs

minor patch tbh

[indigo ore]

That's us here after the "EE" launch

[graceful horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208247235610148864/1361743470464733335/Memento_Mori.gif

[indigo ore]

[crystal bolt]

fix enhanced edition

[swift nexus]

Take cover and aim for the head

[late condor]

@naive hollow maybe the whole downgrades list can be community-written so that everyone can contribute? I don't know much about the graphical downgrades for example.

I can share the google doc and then you can just send it once it's done.

[swift nexus]

Missing CNPP in Prypiat's skybox

[indigo ore]

[swift nexus]

And bodies disappearing/fall out of the world

As well as bugs about the merc suit crate in rookie village not spawning sometimes

[crystal bolt]

itd be nice if the game wasnt so blurry actually i think actually

fix enhanced edition!

[rich yarrow]

That's a perfect screen resolution

[torpid rapids]

if one chose to stay in Pripyat instead of flying out on the helos, is it even survivable?

[graceful horizon]

Absolutely, unlocks freeplay

[valid pond]

any giveaway winners got contacted?

[hallow thunder]

Did anyone win it

[indigo ore]

Giveaway?

EE one?
LOLZ

[valid pond]

whats the problem?

[indigo ore]

I only hear just now there is a problem, bud. Whats the problem?!

[valid pond]

lil bro i was just asking and why u acting like a pick me

[whole geyser]

why you rocking a german ww2 helm lol

[tacit cliff]

Guys, I don't know if this is the right channel to write this, but I have a problem with my Stalker Shadow of Chonobyl, a message is appearing when I try to start it, the message indicates that my video card does not meet the minimum requirements. My PC is good and I have already played several other games with it, even games with better graphics, please, if you can help me

[valid pond]

for the drip

[naive hollow]

I personally think that having it be your own list, but openly discussed with the community can hopefully prevent false info from getting added to the list

[whole geyser]

losing drip lol

[valid pond]

nah u just dont understand drip

[naive hollow]

Luckily I do

[whole geyser]

i do aswell my pfp is proof

[naive hollow]

Exactly

[whole geyser]

peak sky + gosling is goated combo fr

[naive hollow]

Clear Sky, my beloved

[valid pond]

2 dripless ppl

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-lying-stalker-gif-21816569

[whole geyser]

[valid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-nuh-uh-gif-no-noo-nope-gif-5893081984824494192

[whole geyser]

no perms

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-embed-fail-embed-discord-embed-gif-embed-gif-21924703

[late condor]

I mean I can verify it all prior to sending, it's just there's SO MUCH to write about and we both know it.

[naive hollow]

Oh, absolutely

That's why it being a Google Doc can be helpful for this, as it can always be expanded later on

But this could be a way for them to know what the problems currently are

[valid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-catstor-gato-castor-cerebrito-sabiondo-gif-12002557139688614332

[naive hollow]

Basically funnel the voices into a coherent document

[naive hollow]

But to answer your earlier question, not to my knowledge. They did say over the week, so there's still time

[shadow citrus]

Hi guys, today I'll start the trilogy for the first time, any tips? 🫡

[naive hollow]

Sure!

Use Q and E to peek around corners, Control allows you to crouch which increases accuracy, but Control + Shift allows you to crouch even lower, which increases your accuracy even further. If you want to throw a Grenade or a Bolt, you can also hold your right mouse button to increase the throwing range. Other than that, if you see an enemy, you don't always need to fight. You can choose your fights at times. For example, if a horde of mutants block your path and you're able to go around then, then that will save you some ammo, because you can't really gain anything of real value from mutants.

[late condor]

hold your right mouse button to increase the throwing range
Unless you play Ainhanced Editions and it's broken

[naive hollow]

Other than that, the very obvious best way to survive is to avoid getting shot, so engaging in combat at a distance can be to your advantage

[shadow citrus]

Very helpful!!! Thank you so much 🫡

[naive hollow]

Oh, and this should be obvious, but you can unload the weapons from dead enemies, so you can earn some ammo

And lastly, it's a bit niche but it can work. If you're ever in a tight spot and your mag is empty, you can press G to drop your equipped weapon, immediately press 2 to grab your secondary and continue fighting

It's niche, but it can help

[shadow citrus]

You seem to know a lot! Lolol since when have you been playing if I may ask?

[naive hollow]

Since 2011, I believe. It's been a while

[velvet mulch]

i really like enhanced editions

[velvet mulch]

but i don't like the bugs remaining

ZRP for SoC or SRP for Clear Sky

also they didn't fix PTM iron sights on Clear Sky, i own original Trilogy so yeah

like how im supposed to aim at enemies with PTM in Clear Sky without crosshair 😄

[naive hollow]

Well, it was never broken, so it can't be "fixed"

You still have a crosshair, you just don't truly ADS

[velvet mulch]

PTM worked on SoC also in CoP i mean iron sights for that pistol xD

[naive hollow]

Because it's a design choice

It's intentional

[velvet mulch]

hopefully this will not offend anyone, but OG Clear Sky had the best shaders / graphics ever

[naive hollow]

100%

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/1092159492021563473/ClearSkyMyBeloved.gif

[surreal jackal]

took me 5 years to finish the game

[velvet mulch]

and with SRP its totally playable Clear Sky

[naive hollow]

Meanwhile, I still play it 100% completely Vanilla

[velvet mulch]

i would play enhanced edition just for achivements xD

[graceful horizon]

Only thing I fix in CS is the flash drive

[velvet mulch]

also in Clear Sky without SRP, we're missing iron sights for RPK too lmao

[naive hollow]

Do we actually know ALL obtainable achievements?

[naive hollow]

Those aren't in CoP either tho

Again, it's intentional

[surreal jackal]

I believe the problem is your computer was not made in Ukraine, it's mostly the problem these days

[velvet mulch]

but,again,engine update, DX12, is welcomed by me

X-Ray engine only supported initially DX11 with CoP

[whole geyser]

soc static lighting > cs lighting

[naive hollow]

I personally still think the original games look better

[naive hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[surreal jackal]

me too, the EE is AI slop

[whole geyser]

i used to be a cs lighting lover until i played soc based mods on static and it became even more peak

[velvet mulch]

i agree with this too, plus the game its looks more crispy

[naive hollow]

mods

Your argument has been made INVALID

[whole geyser]

even vanilla og soc

[naive hollow]

[whole geyser]

mid sky ong real shadow of peak squad in chat rn

[naive hollow]

Bait

Still, I get it tho

SoC looks really good and threatening

But that's mostly the weather itself

[whole geyser]

its tough though cuz fr they are both amazing in their own ways and i agree

[naive hollow]

CS can look just as threatening

[velvet mulch]

however CoP enhanced looks much more better than OG,the sky boxes are no longer bigger and pixelated

[velvet mulch]

on enhanced edition ?

[naive hollow]

And people say Clear Sky is too bright

[naive hollow]

Original

[velvet mulch]

for me Clear Sky was the peak of X-Ray Graphics

[naive hollow]

It is

But back then, it was actually so demanding that most people couldn't even play it kek

[velvet mulch]

CoP was a downgrade

back in 2009 ~ 2010

[whole geyser]

cop feels like a rushed dlc ngl

[shadow citrus]

What pushed you guys to play the games? If I may know

[velvet mulch]

CoP was about bigger maps, complex missions, and upgrade system was a step forward

[whole geyser]

tbh the atmosphere and alienness of it

plus always wanted to go to the zone irl

[velvet mulch]

however in CoP you can get high-end weapons in Zaton .

[whole geyser]

cant you get an svd right away ?

[velvet mulch]

nope

that only on Jupiter if my memory server is right

i was an ordinar person back in the days when CoP was announced

[velvet mulch]

me with my G210 barely made it

768p and high settings back then for CoP or Clear Sky, also on 1280x1024 monitor ;D

[naive hollow]

Yeah, because people couldn't run CS back then

So they downgraded CoP

[naive hollow]

Yes

Zaton, near the Sawmill

[whole geyser]

CS was the modern era crysis

[velvet mulch]

my GTX 960 eat up any stalker games even at 1080p

[whole geyser]

ngl man i wish they made stalker 2 on soc version of xray

[velvet mulch]

my RTX 3060 12GB would eat up even enhanced editions

[cosmic nebula]

hello im new to the games, i installed original SoC but it wont work and have no idea how to fix it, could you guys help please?

[naive hollow]

@late condor
Maybe you can help?

[late condor]

the only suggestion i have is try the beta branch

[cosmic nebula]

how do i do that?

okay i know, i got it

[whole geyser]

options > properties > beta

i had to do this to play the trilogy needed the win 11 patch

[cosmic nebula]

nope, i used the win 11 patch but i got the same error as before

it says that the application has not been properly launched (0xc0000604)

[late condor]

What about pre 1.0007?

[cosmic nebula]

nope, same error

[visual whale]

Guys is there a way to make it so that Ukrainian NPC's speak Ukrainian and Russian NPC's speak Russian?

with English text

Also, is Screen Space Global Illumination higher quality than HBAO?

[cosmic nebula]

IT LAUNCHED! I had to remove all the windows defender security thingies for the program and it worked

[granite jungle]

In theory but it can be noisy in my experience

[visual whale]

yeah I literally just turned off depth of field to see if it helps

because the graphics look worse even than what I remember in the regular game a few years back

[velvet mulch]

DoF whille reloading is meh

disable DoF entirely

[visual whale]

yeah I just did, re-opening the game now since I had to restart for it to take effect. Perhaps I'll just wait a couple of months till they update the game in general

[velvet mulch]

DoF blur the screen off while reloading, so you can't see NPC moving 😉

also motion blur, i prefer it off

[visual whale]

Okay I just found out if you disable 'Space Global Illumination' it enables options like HBAO which looks waay sharper, just FYI for y'all to try it out

and yeah disabling DoF sure helped alot outside reloading as well

[velvet mulch]

back in my days i used to disable motion blurr & DoF and just snipe enemies from long distances xD

even with PTM

[ornate rain]

for me it was MLAA i just used FXAA and didnt adjust anything else and it looks good for me

maybe an issue with MLAA and FSR? idk

[visual whale]

good to know, will try that too

I don't use FSR

[visual whale]

that's just disrespectful

[ornate rain]

Im using FSR but on Native preset.

[dull juniper]

best part about trilogy update, is that it does not have russian

[eternal iris]

???
how do you determine who's who
and they already do, different factions are voiced with different languages in UA dub

[eternal iris]

it does, just not the VA for some reason

[visual whale]

So there IS russian dub just not all factions?

[late condor]

No, there is Russian text localization available

All the new stuff is translated into Russian, there is just no voice acting

[regal pasture]

Some factions in ua localization are talking in russian

[visual whale]

Btw I'm talking about the new remaster

[late condor]

But Ukrainian dub IS actually not complete so it is technically per faction yeah

[regal pasture]

military,duty,mercanary,monolith

[late condor]

“Remaster” is a big word for the EE

[late condor]

Military and Monolith only speak Russian in SoC & CS

[visual whale]

Cool, so I'll choose Ukrainian VO and some rival factions will still be speaking Russian? that's what I want

[regal pasture]

It is

[visual whale]

Nice thanks, no mods needed for me then

[late condor]

Not just rival as Duty is neutral, but yeah

[regal pasture]

And it's basically have sense behind it

But it's understable for ua speakers

[visual whale]

I wish they kept some Russian VO for Stalker 2 just for the immersion

[regal pasture]

meh

[visual whale]

So there would be a mix of both like how it apperantly is in the first trilogy as I find out now

[visual whale]

Why not lol, for realism. Are you from Ukraine?

[regal pasture]

My tag obviously saying about this

[visual whale]

for realism and variety of different NPC's, more unqiueness too

[visual whale]

Cool, I lived in Odesa for 2 years, got my PR there

will be back soon I hope, my parents are in Lviv right now

[eternal iris]

no, but UA dub uses RU language for certain factions
Duty, Military, Monolith, Mercenaries
it is pretty intentional

[visual whale]

That's perfect. It's not like that in Stalker 2 anymore tho huh? Hopefully someone will mod some extra VO in one day

[eternal iris]

uhhh iirc UA version of CS even has that one captured military guy speak in russian in text, but Scar speaks ukrainian, there's even a joke added because of it

[eternal iris]

no, everything is fully UA

[late condor]

it is pretty intentional
Yeah, the intention is to save money

[eternal iris]

it fits, m'kay 💅
the only ones speaking RU are the ones who the devs don't like

[humble cove]

not gonna lie, it would probably be a massive pain in the ass to get all the old VA's back to redo lines of dialogue... if that were even possible for 90% of them.

[eternal iris]

i mean back in 2007 they didn't even bother to replace prohorov's test VA in the original dub, so

and then they bothered even less by not fuсking hiring more VAs, leading to CS and CoP having like 3 guys voicing everyone

very good and professional guys, but still

[late condor]

if it works, it works

prof still voices some of CS too

[late condor]

i know its an overexaggeration but there were new actors for both and CoP has like 15 actors total

[eternal iris]

it very much does

[eternal iris]

there's still less than SoC, or at least it feels like it?
and that's considering SoC already had a problem of VA re-use

[late condor]

no, there's not less than soc, think only borisyonok is gone from SoC VA.

And prof ofc, that goes without saying.

[hexed pecan]

Hi, did it work for you? I tried last optiscaler and nothing happens when I press "Insert"

[rich yarrow]

Am I the only one who can't see a marker for assassination quests in EE version? Just want to make sure it's not a linux issue but an issue of EE as a whole

[regal pasture]

Try to reload

I saw messages that it fixes stuff like that

[pure hemlock]

I'll try again to get past those bandits at the tunnel but if not i'm moving onto Clear Sky. Screw it.

[eternal iris]

in what tunnel

[pure hemlock]

Right after the train warehouse.

[eternal iris]

lower the difficulty?

[pure hemlock]

There's a tunnel with a train and a whole bunch of bandits.

[eternal iris]

or, uh, acquire some skills

[pure hemlock]

I'm not a coward. I just have things to do.

[eternal iris]

???

[dense oxide]

Sorry if this the wrong place but CS is doing some major screen flashing and glitching is there a way to fix this?

[rich yarrow]

Yeah, it worked

[soft topaz]

hey does anybody know where saved data is located on pc for soc?

[stiff widget]

depends on where you downloaded from

[soft topaz]

steam

[hearty topaz]

"You get the originals with EE" I get both games when i buy EE version?

Store page itself has nothing regarding that

[candid loom]

Yes.

[hearty topaz]

I see, good. Would be lovely if Steam page informed user about it too.

[candid loom]

The official faq does, but yes. I agree. It would go a long way to cut down on confusion

[pure hemlock]

Did all of the old STALKER games use Volumetric God Rays back in the day?

[granite jungle]

They were introduced with CS

[pure hemlock]

I'm playing Clear Sky

[rich yarrow]

SoC didn't have them

[vestal sun]

hey why i cant name my saves in the stalker enhanced?

[candid loom]

Feature

[rose violet]

So I wanted the beginning Tunder because I wanted to see how long it would take to get the $$$ for it, and I didn't speak to Wolf at all until I got it, but when I did I didn't get a knife from him.
I'm basically knifeless now right

[rose violet]

Just messing around the Cordon netted me 62k
Someone could probably do a region lock until you can buy a Stalker suit video