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lilac blaze
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They didn't really give alotta loot lol

graceful horizon
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(it's in the order first time entering maps, so it's possible of getting the dark valley ones before the garbage ones)

lilac blaze
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Gotya

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Wait are those the flash drive quests?

graceful horizon
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no, those you can get any time

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but those don't increase reputation

lilac blaze
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So like would the stone flower quest in the swamps count?

graceful horizon
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yes

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that's not a radiant mission, just a one time mission that's a prerequisite for other missions

lilac blaze
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Gotya. So is 3 bars of negative rep enough for them to be insta hostile or still neutral?

graceful horizon
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not at all, they need to reach red

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and that's 7 bars in the wrong direction

late condor
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Counting in bars again? xyu

lilac blaze
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Gotya.

graceful horizon
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what other gameplay element should we count? : )

lilac blaze
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Alrighty back to the swamps then lol

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Thank you for the assistance btw

graceful horizon
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anytime

lilac blaze
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But after this stone flower one others should start unlocking?

graceful horizon
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I don't think it's the last clear sky fetch mission, but if it is the cordon ones should unlock

lilac blaze
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Gotya. Then garbage then dark valley?

graceful horizon
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if you entered the garbage before you entered the dark valley, yes

lilac blaze
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Sweet. Sucks garbage is currently full of bandits but it's ok. You get these from squad leaders in areas yea?

graceful horizon
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yes

lilac blaze
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I'm just asking cuz that's gonna be hard I'm garbage cuz uh. Barely any loners in garbage lol

graceful horizon
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just 2 loner fetch missions there

lilac blaze
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Ah good.

graceful horizon
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you should be fine with the flea market and another random squad

lilac blaze
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Sick

late condor
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any other task is locked while another is offered, you can finish swamps and instantly go for warehouses skipping cordon

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there's no requirement to do locations in order as long as you don't ask for tasks on other locations

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once you have a quest offered, you need to complete it pretty much, but if you don't ask, you can get mw quests from the beginning of the game

graceful horizon
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I'm not sure that's right

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in my last playthrough the garbage missions were unavailable till I did the dark valley ones

lilac blaze
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I'm currently on the 1 where you need to get the medkit from the military

graceful horizon
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and the only thing I did differently was entering the dark valley before the garbage to circumvent bandits checkpoints

graceful horizon
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yeah that would be tight

lilac blaze
graceful horizon
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Swat officer?

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make a screenshot

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not familiar with that one and doesn't seem random

lilac blaze
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Also uh does anyone in cordon sell silencers?

grizzled rockBOT
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cuh123 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

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cuh123 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lilac blaze
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Mutants just ate the rookie village

graceful horizon
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really? that's rare. I've only seen that happen when I actively baited them

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though marked matt had it happen too

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if you eliminate the mutants new loners should spawn in

lilac blaze
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Yup I'm not too worried tbh was just unexpected

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I did clear out the military Outpost. Except for one dude

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So what's the reason the loners like don't fight back when they're attacked in garbage? I know why they don't move but why don't they fight back?

graceful horizon
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they should fight back, maybe bandits get stuck in the pre-assault stage where they lay down suppressing fire till something triggers them to actually attack

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in that stage defenders don't react yet for some reason

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a mechanic generally intended for the player to catch up so they don't miss the action, as far as I can tell

lilac blaze
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Gotya uh I watched your video again is it recommended to let the faction war play out a bit more before killing the duty squad so the freedom/duty war can proceed easier?

graceful horizon
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if they take that one critical point at the garbage, you could wait a bit to see if there's a moment where both point's you need to take are only occupied by single squads, coulds save you some reputation damage

zealous lantern
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Funny enough, if you're neughtral or friend with both factions, and take a quest to clear an outpost from the rival faction, they will come and start shooting, but as long as you (the player) stay aside and not touch anyone, no one will die. they will just keep spraying bullets at each other, but not single NPC will get hit

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I thought I could fool the game this way for some easy money, but the game fooled me

graceful horizon
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yeah but a single bullet from you as player is enough to trigger the actual fight

lilac blaze
graceful horizon
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needs to be a hit

lilac blaze
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Ah

graceful horizon
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might need to make a kill to get a reward, but I can't recall for sure

lilac blaze
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Gotya

grizzled rockBOT
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cyskr has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

graceful horizon
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@modern girder you said you needed help with a faction wars thing?

modern girder
graceful horizon
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have you checked if a squad got stuck in the garbage? they might not show up on the map

modern girder
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Theres nothing

graceful horizon
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has freedom taken the base in the army warehouse?

modern girder
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Bro

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Im in clear sky

graceful horizon
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let me rephrase, what point are you at in the main story

modern girder
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Yantar

graceful horizon
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good

terse crypt
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It often takes long for the faction to send a squad

modern girder
terse crypt
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Anywhere between 20 seconds and 20 minutes kot_hd

modern girder
graceful horizon
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okay, my best guess is that you cleared a point before a freedom squad spawned to take it, it's always best to wait with attacking till there's a squad ready to take it

tawdry cargo
modern girder
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MY FREEDOM FACTION MEMBERS ARE ALL MORONS!!!!!!

tawdry cargo
modern girder
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I rather want too experience that Vova Vist eradication in the Cordon rather than wait for a squad

graceful horizon
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then you're gonna have a bad time with the faction wars

modern girder
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Im gonna do the thing that Tremor did in that one mission in call of pripyat

modern girder
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Exactly

graceful horizon
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best advice I can give for faction wars: you're there to support the faction, not the other way around. It's best to follow squads that get send out and make sure they survive where ever they go, not clear everything and hope they catch up

tawdry cargo
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Guess I'm just too good. They just can't keep up smile_degtyarev

graceful horizon
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yeah, they get embarrassed and lose all motivationsmile_scar

lavish jungle
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i did it guys,i got the true ending for SoC

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CS is the only game i haven't finished from the trilogy

tawdry cargo
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F

unborn pawn
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I lobe Clear Sky

tawdry cargo
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I lobe clear sky

lavish jungle
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and then i can play stalker 2

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I have to say,man was that exhausting

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Wasn't even that hard,just exhausting

dense sapphire
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I lobe clear sky

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I have been replaying the original Trilogy (no mods) after completing Stalker 2’s campaign, I’m on Call of Prypiat now (I had played SoC before HoC came out so I’ve played CS and now am playing CoP)

terse crypt
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Peak

dense sapphire
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It’s really nice to refresh on the old games before seeing the locations again in S2

terse crypt
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Its really nice to play stalker games that actually work :3

young ridge
terse crypt
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It will kot_hd

lavish jungle
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Damn stalker 2 still has issues?

young ridge
young ridge
terse crypt
dense sapphire
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Basically just like the old games at launch

terse crypt
young ridge
terse crypt
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Gotta love how the trilogy has better ragdoll physics

grizzled rockBOT
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das3ns3i has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

young ridge
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Btw mine is just a personal opinion

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I bet there will be a mod to the all the work just fine with the new game in no time

lavish jungle
young ridge
lavish jungle
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Idk what to tell you man,but i haven't had a single issue with stalker

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like no crashes,no bugs,no nothing

young ridge
lavish jungle
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Guess i got extremely lucky

young ridge
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U either lying, forgot if any happened by now cuz u dont play that much, or just devine intervention

lavish jungle
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I'm being truthful,as i do remember well when a game crashed on me

young ridge
open copper
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had to reload a old save before entering to fix it

late condor
dense sapphire
late condor
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CoP was in all regards different from the first two entires. Reasonably scoped, announced when the game was halfway done, not at the start of development, shipped on time with 0 delays, very good level of QA & polish with it being more stable on release than the other two are now.

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Cut content too! CoP is like 95% true to how it was conceived. You open desdocs and read basically scenes exactly as they appear in the game.

dense sapphire
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Speaking of CoP, I got so used to the generous autosaves in HoC, I forgot to quick save just now and lost an hour of progress. smile_degtyarev

late condor
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Makes it even funnier S2 went to repeat SoC’s mistakes again. I know it’s fully new team and GSC is a Theseus ship, but still ironic.

late condor
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Not a fan of LotZ but it’s definitely a good change. Wish it was toggleable though.

dense sapphire
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My friends got to hear me realize my foolishness in real time

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Now I gotta go back to Preobrazhenskyi Bridge again, damn you Ranger Station quest for Owl

modern girder
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I need help in clear sky // Faction wars

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Duty is always making factions..but freedom (my faction) isnt

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I wsited like a hour for thrm too Take over thr nlrthern campnin Agroprom

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(I already took over thr Makeshit camp)

tawdry cargo
valid jasper
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Jesus the typos

surreal jackal
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where are the old game channels?

valid jasper
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They were all merged into one

modern girder
modern girder
tawdry cargo
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Let em take it on their own maybe

modern girder
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Im cooked😭😭😭

harsh heath
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how can i gain duty's trust if i already sold morgan's PDA to owl?

granite jungle
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there are other side quests that you can resolve in one faction's favor or the other

vital harness
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does anyone know if there is a place to download models of the characters from the games to animate with?

vast bluff
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i mean you will get duty's trust (not fully prob), but not the achievement

dense sapphire
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idk why but the "Where are they now" segment at the end of CoP always makes me laugh

sonic dew
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Ok it's now officially time for me to make some butterbrod

terse crypt
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Lucky guy

grizzled rockBOT
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emvit_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

proud marsh
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why dont the guys for the hostage mission spawn in cop?

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ive been waiting from 9 till midnight and no one shows up

bronze orchid
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hey guys how do i drive the BTR at chernobyl npp

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im inside and i turned on the engine but im still having rpoblems

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i only managed to turn on the engine and the lights

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how do you go forwards and backwards with teh BTR?

late condor
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WASD once the engine is turned on

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Might need to switch to third person to see where you are going

bronze orchid
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and the engine turns off by itself randomly
also V doesnt work when i try to work the machinegun

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i can turn the wheels but not actually have it drive forward or backward

late condor
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You can’t work the machine gun, I think the machine gun will still try to shoot you inside

bronze orchid
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i tried pressing down shift and ctrl and idk

round field
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Sure this has been asked but before? (New here) but is the mod community for xbox not that strong? The list for whats available is very small

torpid rapids
round field
terse crypt
late condor
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No gameplay edits, no texts, no configs

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No levels and no spawns

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It’s not going to become any better unless GSC removes those limits

round field
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Aw dang

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Appreciate the answers @late condor @terse crypt

trail ice
heady dune
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Guys, best mods to replay the trilogy for modernising them a bit but stay true to vanilla?

open copper
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idk dont think it needs them

late condor
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not really true to vanilla but fixes quite a few issues

terse crypt
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I would say in most cases best choice for that are upgraded engines

whole geyser
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^

zealous lantern
whole geyser
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I'd skip ZRP

young ridge
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Ooh momolit

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Blow this man's anus to smithereens

zealous lantern
# whole geyser I'd skip ZRP

makes sense, kinda? I see a lot of people don't really like ZRP because it went far beyond just bug fixes and vanilla

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though personally I didn't notice much difference. maybe because the last time before that I played like 5 years ago, idk. overall felt good for me

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but sure, it's not a must have mod

terse crypt
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No reason to use ZRP when you can just slap an upgraded engine in the game instead
Bugfixes, no gameplay changes, improved performance, improved loading time...
Better on all fronts

rotund saddle
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so all 3 channels were merged into one? lel

whole geyser
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People ended up talking about the other games in all the other channels as it was

rotund saddle
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I think we should merge trilogy with 2 as well

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people post S2 screenshots in the trilogy section all the time anyway

whole geyser
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No and that should be fixed now

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If people could read they also would post content in correct areas

rotund saddle
rotund saddle
whole geyser
rotund saddle
whole geyser
open copper
rotund saddle
open copper
whole geyser
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there will be one channel and thats the clear sky channel and deviation from clear sky is a ban

dense axle
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Admittedly I have not finished stalker 2

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But I feel in my bones that it will not compare with the og trilogy

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Maybe with enough fixes s2 will be better

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The combat is just not as fun as it is in the trilogy imo, as weird as it is to say

dense axle
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@terse crypt what's your opinion?

graceful horizon
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In the Kot emperor's humble opinion, it's omg cat

terse crypt
graceful horizon
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I'm Malcator the Sigilcate, my task is to spread your word in your absence

terse crypt
# dense axle <@713746033728946186> what's your opinion?

Dunno
I dropped it three hours in because of horrendous performance
From what Kuro told be about thr story Im not happy to say the least
Even some bigger stuff like Monolith still being around feels like a cheap fanfic and inability to move from the status quo

dense axle
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Yeah I was interested in the beginning, mostly when I thought the story could pivot in some interesting way

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It's just continued to go in the opposite direction I could have wanted

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Some sections were cool but they did not last nearly long enough

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Who knows, maybe the ending is awesome

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The atmosphere is pretty neat at certain times, I can't deny

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I wish the balance was good though

stiff widget
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Just fun

dense axle
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That's good enough for me, I won the game in the giveaway anyway

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If I spent 60+ dollars this would be a different story

bold rapids
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What are the chances of sid selling me a unique thunder s14 in SoC?

graceful horizon
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10% before getting your first mission reward from Wolf

graceful horizon
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0%

harsh heath
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just finished cop and the ending sucks man

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it's like

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having a party cake and shitting on top of it instead of putting a cherry

dense sapphire
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CoP is probably my least favorite game tbh

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the gameplay is fine but the story is just… not all that great

harsh heath
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agreed

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they nailed the side quests tho

dense sapphire
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Absolutely 100%

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CoP has the most enjoyable side quests

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but the Military should not be totally bamboozled by the idea that anomalies move around after emissions, nor should they really not know what a bloody Gauss Rifle is (I mean they encountered plenty of them during Operation Monolith in SoC)

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Hell the military’s been there the longest out of anyone

harsh heath
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i was kinda hoping the helicopter accidents to be related with the giant gauss under zaton

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or some cc plan

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now i gotta wait for HoC to release in PS5 :(

stable copper
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Which is best weapon in shadow of Chernobyl? Trying to get best one to complete first play through

misty mesa
dense sapphire
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Gauss Rifle if you can get it

graceful horizon
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Best weapon really is a matter of taste and situation

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My favorite for all round use is the BC Vintar

dense axle
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I like the AK

eternal iris
civic gate
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idk why but I can't seem to enjoy call of Pripyat

vast bluff
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my beloved clear sky ❤️

civic gate
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already finished it vanilla smile_scar

civic gate
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CoP felt too linear , i got bored

dense sapphire
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I lobe clear sky

rotund saddle
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I lobe clear sky

tawdry cargo
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I lobe clear sky

grizzled rockBOT
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asphyx. has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tawdry cargo
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Lol. Back to CS posting cmon

civic gate
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lol

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my YouTube is flooded with fallout content

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Stalker as well

tawdry cargo
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Peak

civic gate
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and now L4D2

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not bad, needs more Stalker though

terse crypt
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Big open maps with lackluster Alife are a bad combo

dense sapphire
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Clear Sky is probably the most linear imo

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I mean there is technically only two endings, and one of them technically is just a non-canon failing one.

dense sapphire
# light shuttle ¿two endings?

I say two because technically during the final sequence you can fail to disable Strelok’s psi-protection and there is an audio thing from Lebedev before the player is killed. It has no cutscene and isn’t considered a canon ending but it is an outcome during the final mission

pale nebula
modern girder
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In the console version of clear sky theres a mod which turns bolts into boxes

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It makes bolts useless for the entire game but its fun af too throw boxes at ppl

late condor
pale nebula
late condor
# pale nebula That's because maps aren't connected the traditional way. You can only move from...

I’m aware of the reasoning behind it but if greatly limits the possible scenarios you can see, the other two games are way less predictable because of that.

Offline simulation is when NPCs move and fight when outside the simulation bubble (beyond the switch distance), such as when the player is on another level or just far enough away. That doesn’t happen in CoP, any kind of fights and movement only happen when you’re within 150m of those NPCs.

pale nebula
# late condor I’m aware of the reasoning behind it but if greatly limits the possible scenario...

I didn't know about the bubble. I thought only 2 had it. In Call of Pripyat, I remember seeing a four way fight between a chimera, blind dogs and pseudodogs, fleshes and boars and a few zombified stalkers happening in Volkhov AA Complex while I was atop the Cooling Tower. I don't know the distance exactly, but it was far enough for me to need binoculars to watch it closely. Similarly, I watched a large pack of blind dogs and a huge group of rodents fighting together against a pseudogiant and overcoming him. I've never seen A-Life fights this grand and intense in the first two games.

late condor
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If you see something physically, even through a binoculars then it’s already online simulation. The difference in S1 is that stuff that’s loaded does not unload upon you getting further, it only unloads once a level changes.

Afaik SoC did have offline sim only for movement (NPCs moved between levels freely without player involvement) but not fighting, CS had offline fights as well which you could observe in your PDA. CoP has neither.

pale nebula
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Yes, but, realistically, as a gamer, I'd rather witness large, intense and interesting A-Life fights even if they are centered around you, so to speak, as to see them and enjoy them, than watching colored dots "duking it out" in real time on the PDA. I'm not saying A-Life is inferior in Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky, I'm saying A-Life in Call of Pripyat is made so the player can see it in action more often, with different possible outcomes. Also, Call of Pripyat maps have more interactions between NPCs and/or mutants than the other two, especially if the mutant related tasks have been completed, which is a big irony. Yes, I understand, if you stay in the Yanov station, nothing will happen more than 150 m away from you. Then again, what's the point of staying in one place and not seeing anything instead of getting out there and experiencing it first hand?

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I mean, as a gamer, not a modder or a person who understands the intricacies of the game, would you rather see these interactions between AI even if they sort of follow your bubble, or just stand somewhere, see nothing, but know that somewhere, some NPCs are fighting?

civic gate
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CoP had good gunplay but man gameplay was so bland

pale nebula
# civic gate CoP had good gunplay but man gameplay was so bland

Doing all the sidequests, keeping all the important characters alive, hunting for artifacts and collecting guns was definitely not bland to me, at least. Call of Pripyat doesn't work if you rush it. You can rush Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky (to a lesser extent), but rushing Call of Pripyat will make you miss on a lot of fun stuff and make the game feel boring.

civic gate
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I'll save it for later ig

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i just prefer the gameplay of first two

pale nebula
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What is ig?

pale nebula
# civic gate i just prefer the gameplay of first two

Shadow of Chernobyl has a much better ending set piece, you go through the most awesome area of the whole series, CNPP, so it's impossible to beat that. Clear Sky also has an urgency feeling to it and the ending set piece is top notch too. Call of Pripyat has a much tamer vibe, there's no feel of impending danger, but it has its own advantages, some of which I've mentioned.

terse crypt
# pale nebula Yes, but, realistically, as a gamer, I'd rather witness large, intense and inter...

The point of Alife is NPCs and mutants doing stuff while the player is away so you can see how the world has changed in your absence

For example whenever I got hunting for artifacts in Zaton, I first go to the Scar passing the camp between Skadovsk and Ranger Station, I meet a squad of loners there
Once I finish my hunt that takes me around the whole map they havent moved an inch
Thats no fun

pale nebula
terse crypt
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Id rather have the action not be player centered
It kills the point of open world with life simulation

Like, how would you feel if you had an aquarium with fish and the fish only moved when you looked at them?

pale nebula
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Also, NPCs DO move around the map. Once, while in Pripyat, after choosing to remain in the Zone after the ending, I sold some high tier weapons to some expert loners hanging in the Laundromat. I sold a FT-200M, an RP-74, a SVDm and a G-36. After a while, doing multiple weapon runs to Yanov to sell guns found in Pripyat, hunting for artifacts and just messing around the maps, the expert loner squad vanished from Laundromat. I figured they went out, which they did. I found them dead at the Yubileiny Service Center. Luckily, they must have died moments before I found them, killed by quite a few zombified stalkers and a horde of pseudodogs, so I took back the weapons I sold them several in-game days before.

terse crypt
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They only move around few pre-determined points when the player is close by
Pripyat is actually pretty small so they are loaded most of the time

pale nebula
terse crypt
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Thats literally how aquariums work
The fish do their stuff in them, swim around, hide behind the decorations and plants when they need to

pale nebula
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I like animals and nature in general. Whenever I hike, I know the ecosystem is working and life is doing its routine, but when I get to surprise a deer or see a hawk catch another bird it feels good and refreshing.

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My point is it is rewarding to see something you know it's there every once in a while.

terse crypt
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It is rewarding to see something thats there once in a while
But thats much more limited when you need to be around for something to start happening
If I see a deer outside, it feels nice, but if he was just standing there untill I get close enough to see him then thats not rewarding knowing he didnt move when I wasnt there

Point of seeing rare stuff happen is that its rare because it most often happens when you arent around

pale nebula
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Call of Pripyat also added the Chimera and the Burer, so AI-Life fights are more complex.

terse crypt
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Burers and Chimeras barely spawn outside their scripted quests kot_hd

pale nebula
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Seeing blind dogs, pseudodogs and rodents work together to bring down a mighty pseudogiant was amazing.

pale nebula
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Burers also seem to come out more frequently during the night.

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Chimeras usually spawn near the Concrete Bath anomaly, but I've found them in other places in Jupiter.

terse crypt
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why would I explore a map thats empty kot_hd
argument of "if you wait long enough" is dumb because theres no reason to wait when the Alife had its kneecaps broken with a demolition hammer

pale nebula
terse crypt
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like a week ago kot_hd

pale nebula
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Oh. For how long? Did you complete the game, do sidequests and move across the maps?

terse crypt
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yes
YES I DID

pale nebula
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The maps definitely aren't empty. You can say that about Heart of Chornobyl, but not Call of Pripyat.

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Of course they are "empty" if you go by that premise from the get go and you don't explore. You can't see what you don't search for.

terse crypt
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I do explore, I try to do every sidequest and get most stashes, I spend hours running from one anomaly to another to get artifacts
and other than the few spawns that are bound to happen theres barely anything going on
usually people just respawn and due to their positioning they clash with someone else
which again, is nearly bound to happen due to their spawns

pale nebula
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We must be playing different versions, because whenever I play there aren't two identical encounters. Did you finish Trapper's mutant quests? After you do, many mutants increase in numbers and the rare ones like the chimera and pseudogiant can be found in the open. On my last run, I played Call of Pripyat for more than 50 hours and I've seen A LOT of stuff. For example, the bandits from the Container Warehouse have been completely wiped out by large numbers of blind dogs and pseudodogs, the bandits from the Checkpoint left that area and starting wandering around until they got killed near Yanov Station. I've seen one Duty squad move around the map for some time (several gaming sessions) until they got killed, but each member in several places, not in the same spot.

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On several ocassions, I've had mutants spawn around and IN Yanov Station, something which is well known among players. I even had a chimera trapped inside Yanov Station.

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You can say a lot of things about Call of Pripyat, but that "the maps are empty" isn't one of them.

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@late condor, if Call of Pripyat doesn't have offline A-Life, how do you explain the deaths of the bandits from Container Warehouse and Checkpoint, and why did the ones from Checkpoint leave their spots and wandered around the map until they got killed? Both of these situations must have happened when I first went to Pripyat and spent some time there.

late condor
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This is weird and does not align with my experience. I will check for sure later and come back to you.

pale nebula
late condor
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It’s switch_distance in alife.ltx lol, all three games have it

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You can edit the value to a smaller number and see NPCs spawn in front of you

pale nebula
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So, then all three games have it, not just Call of Pripyat?

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There's the A-Life bubble in all of them, correct, but the rendering distance varies?

late condor
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It’s not rendering distance though, it’s online simulation distance

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They don’t just stop rendering they switch to essentially dice rolls for simulation

pale nebula
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OK, then why did those situations happen? I named only three, the Container Warehouse, the Checkpoint and the Duty squad. The Checkpoint bandits died near Yanov Station, but I don't know what or who killed them. Like I've said, these situations happened in my absence.

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Also I couldn't find anything regarding Call of Pripyat missing offline A-Life. Can you provide a link?

late condor
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There is a chance that happened when you came back or when you were just leaving, or maybe there is indeed offline simulation and I am wrong, I will need to examine this to say for sure.

pale nebula
# late condor There is a chance that happened when you came back or when you were just leaving...

All I can say is that when I returned from Pripyat for the first time, with the calibration tools and a crapload of weapons to sell, I started exploring Jupiter again and completing some of the remaining sidequests. I immediately found Jack and 2 or 3 of his goons dead near Yanov Station. I didn't remember his name from when I helped Vano, but I recognized his face in the inventory image. I googled him and I've found out who he was. I went to the Checkpoint, which was completely empty. I remember seeing more than a few bandits there when I helped Vano, so they must have died too, but their bodies probably vanished after a while. Jack's body is still near Yanov Station to this day.
Regarding Container Warehouse, I simply stumbled upon their bodies (Shishak was still inside the hangar), while the others, like Yoga, were either in the courtyard, or near the entrance. There were also two loner bodies around and a few dead blind dogs. The rest of the blind dogs and a few pseudodogs were roaming around the area.

terse crypt
terse crypt
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it is my exaple because it literally happened every single time I played through Zaton kot_hd

late condor
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Tbh game start is identical for SoC and CS as well

pale nebula
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That's a scripted event, right at the beginning. It's like meeting with Doc in Agroprom Underground in every playthrough.

terse crypt
pale nebula
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You can literally get out of Yanov Station and go to the Cement Factory. The silos are almost constantly disputed by loners, bandits, Freedom, Duty and zombified stalkers.

pale nebula
terse crypt
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thats because Skadovsk is neutral area so squads of both will go there when the player is around :3

pale nebula
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Sure. That's why you also find new bodies around the area all the time, not just fights.

pale nebula
grizzled rockBOT
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michalizor has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frosty umbra
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What does everyone carry in Jupiter underground

dense sapphire
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I got through with an AKM-74

I think most of CoP I just used an upgraded AKM-74

frosty umbra
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I usually use the Vss and some shotgun

terse crypt
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AC-96/2
no reason not to use it when its free

dense sapphire
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I think i started to use the AC-96/2 after Prypiat-1 last time I ran through CoP

frosty umbra
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Here’s a fun challenge
Go the Pripyat underground with only a knife and on

pale nebula
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Call of Pripyat has a lot of good weapons to choose from. Take a good assault rifle like Strelok's SGI-5K, GP-37, FT-200M, AC-96/2, SA Avalanche, Thunder S14 or its unique variant, the Storm, and a good shotgun, like the Eliminator, Predator (modified Chaser 13) or Carabiner (modified SPSA-14).

terse crypt
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its pretty easy since you dont really need to kill anyone there
protecting companions would be pain tho
probably would be best to not recruit anyone besides Zulu

dense sapphire
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I forgot to pick it up

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I have smooth brain moments like that

terse crypt
rotund saddle
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I lobe clear sky

dense sapphire
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I lobe clear

pale nebula
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@terse crypt
A chimera with some blind dogs and a pseudodog, near Yanov Station. In the second picture, you can see two other chimeras in the same area which I killed on other occasions.
#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

bold rapids
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Yo where can I get that unique Viper 5 that shoots 9x18

misty mesa
grizzled rockBOT
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jouly has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rotund saddle
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I lobe clear sky

tawdry cargo
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I lobe clear

frosty umbra
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I lobe cop

light shuttle
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I lobe

dense sapphire
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I

primal basalt
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I lobe

whole geyser
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I lobe clear

novel musk
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Sky I lob

misty mesa
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Lobedev f_clearsky lebedev_f

karmic horizon
late condor
vast bluff
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i lobe sky clear ❤️

tawdry cargo
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I lobe clear sky

graceful horizon
whole geyser
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i lobe clear sky

pale nebula
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@late condor, did you find anything?

merry tendon
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Is the ssp-9m viable for raiding the cnpp?

pale nebula
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Yes.

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It's especially useful inside the Sarcophagus and Monolith Control Center thanks to its 2nd generation nightvision. Depending on how you play, you might need a new suit once you hit the rooftops. There are exoskeletons inside the Sarcophagus and Monolith Control Center and Skat-9ms on the rooftops.

merry tendon
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is the bullet resistance good?

pale nebula
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Yeah, it's 40% if I recall correctly.

merry tendon
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okay, thanks for the tip

pale nebula
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No problem.

late condor
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My idea was to place PDA spots on every NPC and see if it updates on other locations but I would need to recompile engine for that

pale nebula
# late condor My idea was to place PDA spots on every NPC and see if it updates on other locat...

By the way, since you know the engine and its perks, take a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1zM3ePkYPo&t=12s
This guy does a lot of interesting comparisons between these games. What I wanted to ask you is this: When he follows NPCs and mutants around, he seems to be in a free camera mode of some sort, not actually there, since the AI is oblivious to his presence. Would that mode still trigger spawning in some cases?

late condor
torpid rapids
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So i have a question im playing shadow of chernobyl and I just got out of streloks cash, what the hell were those those black entities at the end before I exited

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They screamed at me and and then multiplied

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They would throw something at me

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And it would like bring me close to them

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Ive tried Google and nothing

terse crypt
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Black entities?

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Im pretty sure you mean Controller but hes not black and theres only one in that level

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He screams, twists your vision and deals damage

dense sapphire
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unless you have a mod installed there should only be a Controller there after you find Strelok's stash

torpid rapids
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My game is unmodded

late condor
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I think it’s double vision from low psy health

whole geyser
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^

terse crypt
lilac blaze
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So finally took garbage for the loners. But it says there's some bandit squads left even tho it's completely empty. So wherever I leave they retake everything. Are those bandits in agroprom I have to kill?

graceful horizon
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Yes, but do it with the missions of Orest, the leader of the loners there. That'll disable the bandit spawnpoints there indefinitely

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So you got loners to occupy the depot?

lilac blaze
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I did yea.

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I think a squad died and it let some more loners spawn

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But I'm on the part where all my stuff was stolen now

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But the loners occupied the depot but fot some reason more bandits keep spawning in there and overwhelming the loners inside the depot. Even with the extras from yantar

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I think I'll just let the bandits keep it lol

graceful horizon
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Bandits shouldn't respawn when loners occupy the depot. What version are you playing?

lilac blaze
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Legends of the zone version

lilac blaze
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IT WORKED

graceful horizon
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Oh, with legends of the zone all bets are off

lilac blaze
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They finally did it. Holy crao

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Do the bandit squads in agroprom count for war in garbage?

graceful horizon
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They count as squads in the squad counter, and point they capture may or may not count to faction resources

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@lilac blaze But awesome that you managed it! You're the first on this server to say so as far as I know. Feel free to post some screenshots.

paper pivot
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I know this is stupid but, does changing the graphic settings from advanced tab work in the existing save? I'm using ZRP mod only Dalin

primal garnet
paper pivot
paper pivot
# primal garnet yes

Thanks for the info! I wasn't sure cus when I played COP Gunslinger, you need to start a new game to make the changes affect

primal garnet
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gunslinger is a lot of changes so thats why

grizzled rockBOT
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.cheekibreeki. has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lilac blaze
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Now I just have to deal with zombies and monolith.

deft summit
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I want to play SoC again, but with better graphics and more realistic gungame. I played AA2 before. Is there anything better now?

late condor
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I mean, vanilla is better than AA2 smile_strelok

deft summit
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I want that one-shot-instant-kill experience. smile_strelok

late condor
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The game is designed with gun progression in mind, you get that once you progress enough

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Getting high damage high accuracy guns on early levels is like giving yourself max level in an RPG

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You’re meant to struggle at first

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The game has no skills and anything alike, gear is the only real indicator of player progression

deft summit
late condor
graceful horizon
late condor
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Enemies get deadlier with your progression and so do you, but most gunplay mods just kind of kill that by making everything kill from a single headshot from 50m

lilac blaze
late condor
graceful horizon
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LotZ is weird...

lilac blaze
late condor
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Classic lotz smile_scar

lilac blaze
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Rookie village got eaten by mutants. Lower half of cordon is just infested. Even the military Outpost.

late condor
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That isn’t supposed to happen cause there are quest characters in there, it’s specifically set as non target for bandits and not even an important spot so that they don’t consider it in faction war

lilac blaze
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Got one military guy just. Standing vigil down there

lilac blaze
graceful horizon
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The military didn't respawn...?

late condor
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I referred to flea market

lilac blaze
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Ohh

late condor
lilac blaze
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Yea bandits attacked flea market regularly

late condor
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Remnant of an earlier idea where they spawned north of outpost and came there

graceful horizon
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Did you witness new squads spawning there and moving to the depot?

lilac blaze
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I did

graceful horizon
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Sounds like bandits wiped out the original squads bit by bit. Once all originals were gone and replaced they started sending out squads. If pc version logic holds any value in LotZ(hmm...)

lilac blaze
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I'm still surprised rookie village is straight up dead

graceful horizon
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Happens when they're wiped out and the spawncap is reach by squads that spawn in elsewhere

misty mesa
dense sapphire
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In my recent CoP playthrough the Skadovsk was under attack 24/7

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couldn’t go to sleep without hearing “PATSANY” followed by a flurry of gunfire

civic gate
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it's пацаны

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or something like that, I'm southern slav 😭

trail osprey
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Can someone please explain what the weight+ stat means on the flytrap artifact

graceful horizon
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wrong channel. This channel is for discussing the original trilogy, not Heart of Chornobyl

dense sapphire
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I was simply too lazy to switch to cyrillic keyboard at the timesmile_degtyarev

karmic horizon
civic gate
lilac blaze
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Just got to yantar and red forest in clear sky Game took a sharp turn to horrifying. Dang bloodsucker straight up jumpscared me

graceful horizon
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Red forest gets to people, yeah

dense sapphire
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Encountering a bloodsucker in the Red Forest at night is terrifying

gloomy wharf
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🛤️ 🗺️

lilac blaze
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Or is it a specific pounce animation?

paper pivot
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Bruh how the HELL do you get out of that x18 lab? Says someone is holding the door

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And no spoilers alr?

late condor
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But then patch 1.5.03 made them spawn on Swamps without this unique script making them a simple bloodsucker reskin.

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And CoP even further confirmed it to be a bloodsucker subspecies by changing “swamp thing” to “swamp bloodsucker”

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And again making their abilities indistinguishable from regular bloodsuckers

lilac blaze
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Ohh

grizzled rockBOT
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fbl7546 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

deft summit
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I just started a new playtrough of SoC AA2.

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Right outside of the rookie village I found a dead guy named Vampire and his SG 550. This seems like a bug ...

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And close by was the corpse of Clumsy.

karmic horizon
karmic horizon
deft summit
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Seems OP to keep the gun. 😂

edgy spade
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is there a way to get morgan's pda without doing the quest?

paper pivot
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Is it just me or does nimble die after you give him that jacket?

rotund saddle
zinc dragon
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Umm hello

graceful horizon
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Sup

misty mesa
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"I said come in! Don't stand there" Mods

frosty umbra
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What is this abomination

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I’m scared

whole geyser
frosty umbra
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Well yes I know that

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But the sticker is horrifying

misty mesa
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Controller is big brain 🧠controller_b_right

round field
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Wanted to ask about clear sky since i dont have alot of experience with it

late condor
late condor
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Well you do not upgrade and repair in SoC. Also in SoC you won’t run out of meds normally but in CS that happens quite often, but if you explore for scattered loot and breakable containers you should have enough.

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Stash buying mechanic is also not in SoC. They may hold quite a few unique things but it’s often a gamble.

dense sapphire
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Also be careful about when you join a faction, it could make specific sections of the game much more challenging

misty mesa
scarlet slate
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Hey, I need some help with Clear Sky. I want to obtain a GP37 and since I'm a Duty Member, I can't get the bandit one, or the freedom quest one from the Army Warehouse. But the wiki claims :

"Another GP 37 is available as a reward for an optional side mission given by random Loners, Duty, Freedom or Mercenaries squad leaders in the Army Warehouses"

But no General has any available side quest to do

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Am I missing something? I have just cleared all my side quests I had lying around to make sure I have space, I helped the mercs getting out of the bubble, but nothing so far, despite having great rep with duty and loners. Do I have to kill the freedom commander first? Do I need to finish the whole red forest questline?

scarlet slate
round field
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Im sorry

scarlet slate
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?

round field
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I hope you make a swift recovery

scarlet slate
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D-do you know anything about how to solve my problem though?

misty mesa
scarlet slate
misty mesa
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Emissions removed Scars ability to multitask unfortunately smile_scar

scarlet slate
late condor
scarlet slate
# late condor Getting reward is a separate quest, it shouldn’t stop your progress with Return ...

Oh reddit person, here my response to your last comment:

I picked up a retrieval quest for some duty soldier, I think at the entrance of garbage. Didn't do it for a long while then completed it after having no luck at Army Warehouse for the first time. Didn't went to receive the reward until you said I could only have one retrieval quest.

I recieve my reward around the time I just helped the mercs out of the bubble, then done the fight at the bridge against the bandits, went back to Clear Sky, got the F2000 and then went back to Army Warehouse but still no luck.

late condor
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It shouldn’t matter when you received the reward, again, that’s separate quest and has no impact on availability of others. After completing the duty soldier quest, did you have a case of asking anyone else for a quest, them offering it to you and you not accepting?

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Since you mentioned CS ammo quest in Reddit comment, I will elaborate: this only refers to Return Item quests that require unique items with a map marker, not Bring Items quest which asks for common items and is repeatable.

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Your best course of action is starting to ask around in Garbage and further locations. Someone must have something that you can complete.

misty mesa
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I was in a similar situation myself, looking for a way to get an exoskeleton before heading into Limansk. I assume it's highly unlikely to find one for sale unless you have joined a faction and helped them enough in the war? smile_scar

scarlet slate
grizzled rockBOT
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mrkatana_74 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

flint crane
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Hi.
I played a lot of Clear Sky yesterday. Powerful game in my opinion. I rarely stop for more than a minute to contemplate the scenery in video games. Yesterday, however, it happened at dusk, in the rain, watching lightning strike a remote area of ​​the Swamps.
Thanks GSC!
PS
I don't understand why screenshot captures and background recordings don't work on Steam for this game.

graceful horizon
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Keep in mind the army warehouse fetch missions can be a bit iffy, at some point for me the first one of those missions was only offered by a single freedom squads for some reason.

scarlet slate
graceful horizon
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A good place to start, yeah

lilac blaze
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Funny thing occurred. Right when I entered lymansk. The bandits took the depot again lol.

deft vortex
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Just started CoP and my side mouse buttons arent working, has anyone else ran into this issue?

open copper
flint crane
lilac blaze
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Really do not care for clear sky's final boss

lilac blaze
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It's genuinely imo absolute rrash

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Also doesn't help I have zero armor

scarlet slate
# graceful horizon A good place to start, yeah

So, I went back through a couple of maps and noticed no one offered any quest, I went back to clear sky and saw people offering item delivery quests, so I did all I saw there, and now I could accept other quests. Which worked so far, did 3 side quests in Army Warehouse, but not the one for the GP37, and now one one offers it. I still have other quests in garbage and red forest, so I don't think a delivery quest is active, I also checked every green and yellow dot on the map in Army Warehouse and talked to every commander there, but they all are not giving me any more quests.

What problem am I experiencing now?

graceful horizon
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are there still loners in the army warehouses?

lilac blaze
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I think this final segment has ruined clear sky for me.

graceful horizon
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it's not where the game shines, no

lilac blaze
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DID ITFECK U STRELOK

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That uh. Was an ending

scarlet slate
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also it seems I can only accept quests in the red forest currently, but I did receive item missions like 3 times already from 3 different commanders, and I talked to none of them while doing the 3 missions in army warehouse, only after I went around and no one had any quests

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no wait apparently not, it seems red forest suddenly stopped now as well.

scarlet slate
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well I found a quest giver in the duty base did it, tried army warehous again and no luck

graceful horizon
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you playing pc version or LotZ version>?

scarlet slate
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but I give up, went back to the duty base 3 times now and did a item retrieval quest and I still get no other quests in army warehouse.

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I now spent over 6 hours on trying to get a gp37, I give up. I am just gonna use the F2000, despite wanting to use a different weapon this time.

graceful horizon
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Sorry to hear that, I couldn't tell you why it's not showing up

late condor
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All Agroprom, all Yantar, all Red Forest and only they will you get the mw quests

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If you found one on duty base then you have at least two location in front of you (and potentially more quests at Agroprom too)

graceful horizon
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Yeah but they already managed to do 3 of them in the army warehouse, so I don't get the logic either of the next one not showing up

late condor
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Oh I must have missed that, which ones have they done?

scarlet slate
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I've done the one for the pda, then meat grinder and a third I forgot

late condor
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There’s a 24 hour cool down between taking several retrieve item quests from the same squad

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Might be that?

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OH FUCJ

scarlet slate
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oh right the ammo from the helicopter was the third

late condor
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I think I finally yndetatand why you can’t do that

scarlet slate
late condor
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If a specific squad (freedomers on the hill under bloodsucker village) has died then you can no longer take the quest from ANY squad, it’s a known bug.

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I completely forgot about it

scarlet slate
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wow

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yeah I killed them early on since they were immediatly aggresive since I'm part duty

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so I never had a chance and spent 6 hours for nothing?

scarlet slate
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This should REALLY be mentioned in the wiki

late condor
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The tip is to never use the English wiki smile_scar smile_scar smile_scar

scarlet slate
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dang

sullen minnow
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Me omw to use the wiki in my native language (french)

graceful horizon
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Would it help if I suggested a possible alternative weapon? @scarlet slate

scarlet slate
graceful horizon
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Ah yeah

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That's past the point of no return

paper pivot
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Bruhh I killed wolf

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By accident

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I think when snitch told me to do a job for him

graceful horizon
paper pivot
paper pivot
graceful horizon
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Wow, that one needs some cropping...

paper pivot
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Imma kms

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Does that make a difference or..?

graceful horizon
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I was talking about the image I send having too many wide borders

grizzled rockBOT
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.slimestar has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

scarlet slate
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#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

Can someone help? I'm stuck here because the game immediately crashes as soon as the MG behind the hill dies or shoots. I tried everything in game, it feels like and I just can't continue

misty mesa
scarlet slate
misty mesa
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Worth a shot lebedev_f

scarlet slate
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found it, let me post a pastebin

late condor
late condor
scarlet slate
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gotcha

scarlet slate
late condor
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Is it empty after every crash? Is copy buffer empty as well?

scarlet slate
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I'm looking into it tomorrow probably

grizzled rockBOT
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randl1 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

open copper
grizzled rockBOT
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racing5566 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

scarlet slate
# late condor Is it empty after every crash? Is copy buffer empty as well?

Expression : fatal error
Function : CScriptEngine::lua_error
File : E:\priquel\sources\engine\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 180
Description : <no expression>
Arguments : LUA error: ...alker clear sky\gamedata\scripts\task_objects.script:1589: attempt to call method 'alive' (a nil value)

(This is the copy buffer)

(I died from the gunner)

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No buffer when the gunner shot and it crashes

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Expression : fatal error
Function : CScriptEngine::lua_error
File : E:\priquel\sources\engine\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 180
Description : <no expression>
Arguments : LUA error: ...alker clear sky\gamedata\scripts\task_objects.script:1589: attempt to call method 'alive' (a nil value)

(Gunner died)

late condor
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I will take a look a bit later

scarlet slate
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Also before trying, I completly reinstalled the game, so it's a fresh install

late condor
scarlet slate
paper pivot
#

Does nimble die after you give him the jacket in soc?

granite jungle
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Not as a rule to my recollection

graceful horizon
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Nah he's generally fine

granite jungle
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Obviously anything can happen occasionally with the way the game works but he usually hangs around the rookie village

paper pivot
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Yah

paper pivot
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Like in his sleep

paper pivot
late condor
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Weird af. Usually NPC don’t die for no reason.

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Closest to that is collision death.

paper pivot
# late condor wut

Idk man. I gave him the jacket, and I just wandered the zone for like idk 1 day or so and when I came back, bro layin in the floor bed there DEAD

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Used zrp tho

vast bluff
vapid flower
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I wish they'd do a sale for the clear sky and COP for the spring sale

novel musk
vapid flower
glacial epoch
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Why STALKER trilogy didn't getting any discount this sale?

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I want to gift my friend STALKER bundle as an surprise today

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But when i check it up the price remain unchanged

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Do i have to wait at some period of time for it to finally get discount or the game developer really just don't wanna give's any discount in this sale

dense axle
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That's actually a bit strange

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Stalker trilogy tends to go on sale very frequently

dense sapphire
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I’m pretty sure I bought the entire trilogy for like $15

rotund saddle
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last time it was on sale it was during Winter Sale

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it was on sale last Spring Sale, maybe they don't discount everything at once

late condor
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My guess is it might have to do with upcoming LotZ pc release

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Setting a discount and then selling the port for 3x the price a few months later may make the LotZ price seem even more absurd than it already is

glacial epoch
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Damn it

dense axle
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Yeah I got all 3 for 10 bucks

open copper
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same

paper pivot
merry tendon
paper pivot
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Thanks!

true path
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hey, I cant find any info on this online, but, how can I use artifacts? attaching to belt seems to do nothing

faint wasp
true path
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fair question actually, I dont know if it actually works or not

misty mesa
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Some artifacts have mediocre stats, so it can be hard to notice if it's doing anything beneficial.

faint wasp
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You basically need to suffer from a thing to tell if it’s working. Whatever it’s for

misty mesa
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When the artifact makes my brain 2% more resistant to the Psy-Emission Think_about_it

obsidian willow
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You now die horribly in 10 seconds instead of 8

true path
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When are those horrible deaths coming? I played till the part where I have to steal the military documents and its been very easy so far

merry tendon
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thats still the early game iirc

granite jungle
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It's not really as hard as its reputation suggests

karmic horizon
vast bluff
naive hollow
late condor
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People who complain that it’s hard usually rush it with a broken weapon and suit and then complain they die too fast and their weapon doesn’t do shit

sullen minnow
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Honestly, I can understand how someone can die with decent armor in one of the higher difficulties but in my opinion, the weapon and player damage scaling in stalker is quite possibly the best I've ever seen in a shooter game

dense sapphire
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I didn’t have a problem really until the CNPP fight on my first playthrough of SoC

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not that I remember at least

true path
true path
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And I had 1k+ 9x18 I had to drop it cuz of weight

naive hollow
true path
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Picked that cuz it seemed like the "default" difficult

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Can I turn it up now?

misty mesa
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I think difficulty can be changed at any time if you want, whatever makes the first playthrough most enjoyable drink

vast bluff
open copper
sonic dew
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what is the best weapon in clear sky?

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cuz i like g36

granite jungle
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Not really a single best weapon, but your usual suspects of 9x39 weapons and high end 5.56 guns like the SGI 5k and GP37 are always solid

sonic dew
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ah so same same as uhhh, soc?

granite jungle
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yeah pretty similar

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I tend to use the Vintar since it's Scar's signature weapon from the opening cinematic, and the ammo is plentiful enough in the endgame

rotund saddle
karmic horizon
late condor
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@naive hollow spam

naive hollow
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Thanks, deleted

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And immediately, another comes...

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Lmao

grizzled rockBOT
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intimiderp has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

naive hollow
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And again...

rancid tiger
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Do artefacts respawn in clear sky?

open copper
graceful horizon
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it's unlikely to happen in normal gameplay

karmic horizon
dense oxide
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So I'm new to series going through SoC and it's a challenge but not in a bad way

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Going through some tunnels atm that this guy Mole sent me through

ripe storm
dense oxide
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He just said head into the tunnel but I didn't talk with him in the menu

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Was I supposed to?

late condor
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If you are playing lotz no you don’t have to talk, but on pc it’s essential to enter dialogue with him before going underground

dense oxide
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PC trilogy

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It's all good I have a save but thank you for letting me know

sharp zephyr
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Greetings my little lambs in tomato sauce!

How are you?

civic gate
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still can't believe i managed to complete Clear Sky vanilla

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gonna fully mod it next time

jagged sierra
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Peak sky

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Epic embed failure smile_scar

rancid tiger
graceful horizon
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I may or may not take your word for it

late condor
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SRP does fix both the reload bug and the fact that the timer does not run on other locations

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Meaning they just respawn in 2 in-game days with no ifs and buts

graceful horizon
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Would not have guessed

sly cedar
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Marked one,what the hell?!

grizzled rockBOT
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dense oxide
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Hey besides side missions are story missions timed?

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In SoC

rancid tiger
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No dont worry

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They are a few timers like "you have two minutes to access that door". But the only way to fail story missions is by dying

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You can spend hours between story missions without any problem

dense oxide
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Thank you

graceful horizon
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@late condor is there anything that influences sprint-speed in CS?

late condor
graceful horizon
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someone commented on a video of mine that I seem to sprint faster than normal, just their mind playing tricks on them I suppose

terse crypt
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Did you maybe edit your FOV?

loud folio
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is COP gameplay better than clear sky?

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I hate clear sky so much i dont think i can play cop if it is similar to clear sky

primal basalt
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personally i enjoyed both a lot and i guess CoP feels more open if that addresses your specific concern

loud folio
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Like the gun fights in clear sky was so trash even a full durability ak74 would have a 5m dispersion at 20m range

primal basalt
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hmm guns felt fine to me but i always prioritize longer range weapons (scope) + shotgun so it worked well for me

loud folio
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What about the 5 grenades thrown at you every 10 seconds

primal basalt
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lol that's the fun tho

loud folio
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It’s fun at the start but not when you have to fight monolith in tight spaces like the stupid clear sky ending

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So my base accuracy is trash and I have to keep dodging grenades at the same time

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And the only gun with good accuracy was the vss with 15 round mag

primal basalt
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ye ending fight is rough ngl, i feel CoP def is more "fair" in that regard if that makes any sense; if these were your concerns I feel you should be able to enjoy CoP

tawdry cargo
loud folio
tawdry cargo
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Last playthrough I went through the point of no return with no meds and only used about 200 rounds

loud folio
tawdry cargo
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Flash drives

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Trilogy is easy enough on master

misty mesa
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Upgrading weapons and Equipment is also similar to CS, so you can upgrade your shooter to be pinpoint accurate gaduka

primal basalt
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ye i do generally upgrade accuracy/flatness first and that helped a lot

remote anchor
graceful horizon
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If you hate CS you'll probably love CoP

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I'd describe it as "mellow"

charred prism
civic gate
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i agree on that one

pale nebula
charred prism
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Yhea

pale nebula
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OK. You must really hate CoP for whatever reasons to say it is worse than 2.

whole geyser
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3 maps and an incredibly retarded military who didnt know anomolies moved yet in previous games it was established

granite jungle
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It's good for one playthrough and then you have seen all the game can offer basically

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Main story is barely there but it has some well produced side missions

whole geyser
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Fr side stories best part imo

dense sapphire
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Strelok pulling up to the military like he didn’t gun dozens of them down at Ahroprom alone literally two weeks ago

whole geyser
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This aswell

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Bro was also ☝️ kotnerd anomalies move guys

dense sapphire
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Military wondering what could possibly bring down a helicopter when “065” and an unknown Airmobile squad ate shit due to an electrical anomaly during Operation Monolith

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(Unknown because despite there being a squad onboard “065” they’re not listed on the Operational plans you can find)

misty mesa
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Degtyarev investigating the helicopters: hmm, interesting. It seems like it crashed because the crew put on Bandit Radio at full volume and drank more Cossacks than Zulu smile_degtyarevfood_vodkadrink

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"here's to a steady hand!" drink

edgy geode
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i have a question, whats the lore reason for me to have to go retrieve the x18 documents in the underground lab (SHOC)? i know i gotta find strelok but how does all this connect?

graceful horizon
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X18 is just to help the traders

edgy geode
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oh so im just giving a hand while i look for strelok

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also should i know why i should find strelok yet? im scared i skipped important dialogue that explained it on accident

graceful horizon
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Consider it 2 intertwining storylines

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One is finding Strelok, the other is finding a way to the center of the zone for the traders

edgy geode
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i see

graceful horizon
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And you generally need to do the latter to get the chance to advance the former

edgy geode
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whats in the center of the zone?

graceful horizon
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CNPP

granite jungle
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That's what they want to find out. The rumors say there's potentially many riches to be found, and an object that can grant your wishes

edgy geode
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awesome

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so in game im still figuring everything about the zone out while i look for strelok

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the whole reason i look for strelok is cuz i found his pda and he might know what happened before i woke up?

granite jungle
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Yeah basically

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It's your only connection to whatever happened before you were rescued from the truck

edgy geode
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makes sense

pale nebula
graceful horizon
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Disagree to disagree

terse crypt
edgy geode
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does it matter if i give the x18 documents to either sodorovich or the barkeep at bar? (shoc)

granite jungle
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You can show them to Sid but then he will have you bring them to barkeep anyway

edgy geode
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oh bet

charred prism
edgy geode
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can i put a silencer on the saiga?

tawdry cargo
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Whyy

dense sapphire
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DAMMIT I IMBED FAILURE EVEN HERE

terse crypt
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epic embed fail I saw there

dense sapphire
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CoP can’t hold a candle to PEAK Sky anyway

pale nebula
terse crypt
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it is mid
just because majority enjoys something, doesnt mean its good
just look at how many players World of Tanks has kottroll

charred prism
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its the highest rated because it is the one that has the least complexity and is the easiest to understand for the average consumer

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you said this as a joke, but yes, you are 100% correct

pale nebula
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Least complexity? Like the best upgrades for weapons and suits and best artifact hunting, with the most refined artifacts?

charred prism
# pale nebula Least complexity? Like the best upgrades for weapons and suits and best artifact...

Yes, artifacts are balanced horribly as they become nothing more than meaningless baubles used to obtain money, they are too common and easy to obtain, as well as not justifying the downsides of their use on protection side, this system will homogenise your build as everyone uses the same artifacts without fail, however, it is definitely a plus if you play with your brain turned off not wanting to engage with the mechanics
Same is true for the overall balancing of the game, the upgrade system including, the way the game his balanced is to warrant the least energy input by the player with weapons that will never need upgrades only becoming ever so much better with them making the game so easy that there is not even a reason to have fights in them, the accuracy of all weapons is also a interesting thing, since everyone turns into a sniper engaging enemies from 500 meters away trivialising every fight

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Indeed

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This is the best game of the series for people who hate to do anything but click thru dialogue and hold the w key

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Cope and seethe, SoC is the best

pale nebula
pale nebula
charred prism
# pale nebula Exaggerating for the sake of hating on something. 500 meters? There is no situat...

Every single thing I have just said is a problem with how neutral and Boeing CoP is in it's balancing, but I can continue, of courses the narrative is a neutral and boring one as well, nothing outstanding comes from it, the maps are ugly and not well designed, the game entirely relies on it's side stories which can be said to be rollercoaster rides, fun the first and second time however shallow, the game completely guts it's simulation systems and lobotomized itself to make sure the player requires the least amount of attention required to complete the game
In this way it attains a larger fan base, the reason why it gained the most traction is entirely because of this, while the other games forced your hand to their own terms, CoP is all too happy laying with it's belly up, ending with nothing all too interesting to show for it past a few scripted moments
Maybe it is also the most enjoyed as it is the most reassembling a western game, it's very showy but surprisingly boring and stale

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It is no suprise that CoP is the most atypical one for the series in terms of design

pale nebula
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It's not Boeing, it's Antonov.

whole geyser
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Hell even gamma better then CoP tbh

icy hinge
granite jungle
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We're still getting great games constantly, just mostly not from the big names of yesteryear

icy hinge
whole geyser
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Indie games are where it's at these days

icy hinge
whole geyser
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I'll have to check that one out

whole geyser
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Thank you

terse crypt
grizzled rockBOT
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sour linden
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How much better is 2 o havent played since release

graceful horizon
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this is the trilOG channel

granite jungle
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But I guess to answer your question it's noticeably better than at launch

untold valley
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Hi have they said anything about fixing the performance on consoles after the 1.08 update? after it updated my game feels like it has way more frame drops than before while just walking around and playing the game normally

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loud folio
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i dont understand what would make cop the worst, maybe the ending is slightly anti climactic but in terms of enjoyment it was much better than clear sky for me

loud folio
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i agree with you that soc is better

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but i honestly commend the game for adding all the new mechanics and stuff, also id much rather not die from bleeding every 5 seconds lol

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and being able to run is nice too

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but yeah artifacts didnt make much sense to me in cop

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so imo COP is not the worst but not better than SOC

pale nebula
paper pivot
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Guys

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Why doesn't nimble come back?

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Bro just vanished without a trace

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I ordered him to get a sniper rifle

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Its been 4 or 5 days now

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And I've been in and out of zaton and jupiter plant

primal basalt
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sleeping should work?

paper pivot
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It didn't

primal basalt
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dang it nimble

paper pivot
primal basalt
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well i only played vanilla so hopefully you can get it sorted

grizzled rockBOT
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meckano0 has been warned

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paper pivot
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Bro finally decided to come back smile_strelok

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Got me a bulky vssk or some shi

primal basalt
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nimble got me the best sniper he's such a bro

pale nebula
primal basalt
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it was the ||Lynx||

graceful horizon
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I wouldn't call any of Nimble's snipers as superior over the others

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They all have their own strengths and weaknesses, but I consider them equally viable for their specific purposes

primal basalt
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ye obviously it's subjective - I like how it shoots, I like how it sounds and it worked well for me

pale nebula
graceful horizon
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Oh absolutely, I'm not counting the default versions

pale nebula
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The Lynx is VERY good if you want long distance shooting until you, eventually, get the Gauss rifle.

primal basalt
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haha i picked up the gauss, shot once, and switch back to lynx immediately

pale nebula
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The gauss rifle is still unmatched if you want 1 shot kills against humans without aiming for the head and it's instant death with just one shot for almost every mutant, except the pseudogiant. I think chimeras also need headshots to go down in one round, though.

graceful horizon
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It's hard to get around the gaussrifle in the sniping mission tbh

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Really tried it with others, but they just don't perform as well.

pale nebula
graceful horizon
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Yeah

pale nebula
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Well, yes, obviously. Those guys are well armored and, unless you headshot them even with the Lynx, they won't go down in one round. Nevertheless, I've got something better for One shot, the RPG-7u. One round for Serbin and Jackal, and one or two for the remaining mercs that flee. Only one or two, tops, manage to escape. 😄

sullen minnow
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The amount of times I've tried it with the svdm they give you thinking the previous times were just a skill issue

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And then miss due to sheer lack of accuracy

graceful horizon
pale nebula
sullen minnow
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Thats fair

paper pivot
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Why the hell is Joker's PDA missing?

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It's supposed to be near the thing right?

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Like very close to it?

torpid rapids
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I must say playing this game first time in years first 5 hours was satisfying and not bad. Only thing that throws me off is npc door clipping.

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pale nebula
late condor
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Something to do with x64 collision calculation iirc

pale nebula
late condor
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If he used pc mods then again, if any mod he used uses x64 engine it may be same issue

grizzled rockBOT
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grizzled rockBOT
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kind edge
paper pivot
late condor
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mods being mods ig

paper pivot
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I can free look type of thing using demo_record 1

late condor
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Unless OXR fixed that

paper pivot
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It says click f to pickup or something but when i pressed it, nothing happens

paper pivot
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Thanks I'll check that out

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Like first go to the location using demo_record and then input demo_play?

late condor
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yeah

paper pivot
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I'm near the pda

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When i input demo_play 1 it just teleports me back to the surface

late condor
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and end recording with esc

paper pivot
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Could I send you a dm?

late condor
paper pivot
late condor
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in demo_reocord:

  1. press space at points you need to record
  2. press escape

then demo_play that recording, during demo_play (NOT record) you can pick up items

paper pivot
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Nah man

paper pivot
late condor
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no idea then

paper pivot
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Imma give up

pale nebula
wooden token
paper pivot
pale nebula
paper pivot
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I can't waste more time playing again

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I'll just skip that mission

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Now I need to ask something

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Who are the best people that I should recruit to go to pripyat? (No spoilers alr?)

pale nebula
pale nebula
# paper pivot All of them <:smile_scar:598839708474408971>

It would make your life easier if you would give them better weapons. ||Sokolov|| and ||Vano|| could use higher tier assault rifles, like upgraded AC-96/2, TRs 301 or SGI-5k. If you have the cash, by all means, give them upgraded GP-37. ||Vano||, however, will be a great addition against mutants with his default shotgun. ||Strider|| will be valuable against the human enemies towards the end with his sniper, so let him as default. ||Zulu|| has a great weapon, but is the most fragile of the lot. Do not let mutants gang up on him as he can die quite easily.

naive hollow
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Now do the Pripyat-1 Run with no armor and only a PMm

paper pivot
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The monolith guy has a sniper rifle, zulu has a freakin machine gun and the other guy has a shotgun i think

paper pivot
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Like a monolith soldier with no weapon and stuff

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That's the shit we do

pale nebula
# paper pivot How to give them weapons?

Sokolov is in the most dire need of a new weapon. Have the weapons prepared in your inventory and immediately after you start the mission and gain control of your character, drop the new weapon in front of him. He will pick it up on the spot.

naive hollow
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Not really, Monolithians are effectively war machines. To rush into gunfire is suicide, a waste of a good soldier. Not even Monolithians are like that. You're looking at 40k instead smile_strelok

naive hollow
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So little?

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Yeah, that's enough