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(it's in the order first time entering maps, so it's possible of getting the dark valley ones before the garbage ones)
So like would the stone flower quest in the swamps count?
yes
that's not a radiant mission, just a one time mission that's a prerequisite for other missions
Gotya. So is 3 bars of negative rep enough for them to be insta hostile or still neutral?
Counting in bars again? 
Gotya.
what other gameplay element should we count? : )
anytime
But after this stone flower one others should start unlocking?
I don't think it's the last clear sky fetch mission, but if it is the cordon ones should unlock
Gotya. Then garbage then dark valley?
if you entered the garbage before you entered the dark valley, yes
Sweet. Sucks garbage is currently full of bandits but it's ok. You get these from squad leaders in areas yea?
yes
I'm just asking cuz that's gonna be hard I'm garbage cuz uh. Barely any loners in garbage lol
just 2 loner fetch missions there
Ah good.
you should be fine with the flea market and another random squad
Sick
it doesn't work like that
any other task is locked while another is offered, you can finish swamps and instantly go for warehouses skipping cordon
there's no requirement to do locations in order as long as you don't ask for tasks on other locations
once you have a quest offered, you need to complete it pretty much, but if you don't ask, you can get mw quests from the beginning of the game
I'm not sure that's right
in my last playthrough the garbage missions were unavailable till I did the dark valley ones
I'm currently on the 1 where you need to get the medkit from the military
and the only thing I did differently was entering the dark valley before the garbage to circumvent bandits checkpoints
I can try and test it.
yeah that would be tight
You are correct. Also just found a dude called swat officer decked out in an exo suit
Swat officer?
make a screenshot
not familiar with that one and doesn't seem random
Also uh does anyone in cordon sell silencers?
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Reason: Bad word usage
Mutants just ate the rookie village
really? that's rare. I've only seen that happen when I actively baited them
though marked matt had it happen too
if you eliminate the mutants new loners should spawn in
Yup I'm not too worried tbh was just unexpected
I did clear out the military Outpost. Except for one dude
So what's the reason the loners like don't fight back when they're attacked in garbage? I know why they don't move but why don't they fight back?
they should fight back, maybe bandits get stuck in the pre-assault stage where they lay down suppressing fire till something triggers them to actually attack
in that stage defenders don't react yet for some reason
a mechanic generally intended for the player to catch up so they don't miss the action, as far as I can tell
Gotya uh I watched your video again is it recommended to let the faction war play out a bit more before killing the duty squad so the freedom/duty war can proceed easier?
if they take that one critical point at the garbage, you could wait a bit to see if there's a moment where both point's you need to take are only occupied by single squads, coulds save you some reputation damage
Funny enough, if you're neughtral or friend with both factions, and take a quest to clear an outpost from the rival faction, they will come and start shooting, but as long as you (the player) stay aside and not touch anyone, no one will die. they will just keep spraying bullets at each other, but not single NPC will get hit
I thought I could fool the game this way for some easy money, but the game fooled me
yeah but a single bullet from you as player is enough to trigger the actual fight
Like shooting someone directly or just firing a shot?
needs to be a hit
Ah
might need to make a kill to get a reward, but I can't recall for sure
Gotya
Reason: Bad word usage
@modern girder you said you needed help with a faction wars thing?
Im in the freedom faction..and i hsvr too take over a little spot in ahrprom (the entrance too the north..i already have thr south) bit nobody is coming
have you checked if a squad got stuck in the garbage? they might not show up on the map
Theres nothing
has freedom taken the base in the army warehouse?
let me rephrase, what point are you at in the main story
Yantar
good
It often takes long for the faction to send a squad
How long
Anywhere between 20 seconds and 20 minutes 
I can NOT go back into SLAVERY
okay, my best guess is that you cleared a point before a freedom squad spawned to take it, it's always best to wait with attacking till there's a squad ready to take it
20 minutes? Hell nah I've waited 3 hours sometimes
MY FREEDOM FACTION MEMBERS ARE ALL MORONS!!!!!!
Twice I've waited between 1-2 hours and once 3 hours
I rather want too experience that Vova Vist eradication in the Cordon rather than wait for a squad
then you're gonna have a bad time with the faction wars
Im gonna do the thing that Tremor did in that one mission in call of pripyat
Exactly
best advice I can give for faction wars: you're there to support the faction, not the other way around. It's best to follow squads that get send out and make sure they survive where ever they go, not clear everything and hope they catch up
Guess I'm just too good. They just can't keep up 
yeah, they get embarrassed and lose all motivation
i did it guys,i got the true ending for SoC
CS is the only game i haven't finished from the trilogy
F
go finish it
I lobe Clear Sky
I lobe clear sky
yeah,i'll do that
and then i can play stalker 2
I have to say,man was that exhausting
Wasn't even that hard,just exhausting
I lobe clear sky
I have been replaying the original Trilogy (no mods) after completing Stalker 2’s campaign, I’m on Call of Prypiat now (I had played SoC before HoC came out so I’ve played CS and now am playing CoP)
Peak
It’s really nice to refresh on the old games before seeing the locations again in S2
Its really nice to play stalker games that actually work :3
Wait until it wont work the next day
It will 
Damn stalker 2 still has issues?
If it does, praise monalit, if it dont, praise the Ukrainian autistic genius
Its a stalker game nuntheless. Course the fckin thing gonna have issues right away maybe for as long as it exists
Nahh
The game is perfectly fine
Its just small stuff now
Like gamebreaking bugs, horrible optimization, tons of glitches, broken quests etc...
Small stuff
Basically just like the old games at launch
Nope
Ehh
The old games were nowhere near this broken
Game is a downgrade compared to the original trilogy, old mechanics and features that nade stalker THE stalker aint there anymore and the only thing thats still the same is the amount of bugs and stuff
Gotta love how the trilogy has better ragdoll physics
Reason: Bad word usage
Btw mine is just a personal opinion
I bet there will be a mod to the all the work just fine with the new game in no time
Strange i never had any issues with any stalker game before
Regardless of the pc u have, it is bllshite that stalker games runs as smooth as butter anytime every time
Idk what to tell you man,but i haven't had a single issue with stalker
like no crashes,no bugs,no nothing
I had it all.
Guess i got extremely lucky
God tier
U either lying, forgot if any happened by now cuz u dont play that much, or just devine intervention
I'm being truthful,as i do remember well when a game crashed on me
Ill be damned. Well cany argue much. Maybe i just had a fcked up luck
mine only crashed when entering dark valley for the first time
had to reload a old save before entering to fix it
Eh. CoP was fine.
Fair
CoP was in all regards different from the first two entires. Reasonably scoped, announced when the game was halfway done, not at the start of development, shipped on time with 0 delays, very good level of QA & polish with it being more stable on release than the other two are now.
Cut content too! CoP is like 95% true to how it was conceived. You open desdocs and read basically scenes exactly as they appear in the game.
Speaking of CoP, I got so used to the generous autosaves in HoC, I forgot to quick save just now and lost an hour of progress. 
Makes it even funnier S2 went to repeat SoC’s mistakes again. I know it’s fully new team and GSC is a Theseus ship, but still ironic.
LotZ implements similar autosave system, it makes a save at a start of a new quest.
Not a fan of LotZ but it’s definitely a good change. Wish it was toggleable though.
My friends got to hear me realize my foolishness in real time
Now I gotta go back to Preobrazhenskyi Bridge again, damn you Ranger Station quest for Owl
I need help in clear sky // Faction wars
Duty is always making factions..but freedom (my faction) isnt
I wsited like a hour for thrm too Take over thr nlrthern campnin Agroprom
(I already took over thr Makeshit camp)
With what?
Jesus the typos
where are the old game channels?
They were all merged into one
Hush
My faction isnt spawning squads
Nice
Sometimes you gotta wait. Or come back later
Let em take it on their own maybe
Im cooked😭😭😭
how can i gain duty's trust if i already sold morgan's PDA to owl?
there are other side quests that you can resolve in one faction's favor or the other
does anyone know if there is a place to download models of the characters from the games to animate with?
Well SFM exists.
too late
i mean you will get duty's trust (not fully prob), but not the achievement
idk why but the "Where are they now" segment at the end of CoP always makes me laugh
Ok it's now officially time for me to make some butterbrod
Lucky guy
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why dont the guys for the hostage mission spawn in cop?
ive been waiting from 9 till midnight and no one shows up
hey guys how do i drive the BTR at chernobyl npp
im inside and i turned on the engine but im still having rpoblems
i only managed to turn on the engine and the lights
how do you go forwards and backwards with teh BTR?
WASD once the engine is turned on
Might need to switch to third person to see where you are going
WASD doesnt work is the thing
and the engine turns off by itself randomly
also V doesnt work when i try to work the machinegun
i can turn the wheels but not actually have it drive forward or backward
Try pressing space
You can’t work the machine gun, I think the machine gun will still try to shoot you inside
im gonna take a break ill check later
i tried pressing down shift and ctrl and idk
Sure this has been asked but before? (New here) but is the mod community for xbox not that strong? The list for whats available is very small
I said come in,don't just stand there
Find me a game made today that isnt buggy on launch 😂 ill wait
Modding on consoles is extremely limited and not worth anyones time
Thats why nobody makes mods for it
GSC put out lots of limitations for console modding which means that mods can’t go further than asset replacers sadly
No gameplay edits, no texts, no configs
No levels and no spawns
It’s not going to become any better unless GSC removes those limits
they should rename #category-rules to trilogy-category-rules and #1215013259740979320 to trilogy-console-bug-reports
Guys, best mods to replay the trilogy for modernising them a bit but stay true to vanilla?
idk dont think it needs them
For replaying CS SRP is a good choice
not really true to vanilla but fixes quite a few issues
I would say in most cases best choice for that are upgraded engines
^
Wound't probably call these the best mods, but that's what I was playing with and what felt modernised enough for me:
SoC: ZRP, Absolute Nature, Absolute Structures.
CS: SRP, Absolute Nature, Absolute Structures, AtmosFear.
CoP: Absolute nature, Absolute Structures (+ vanilla spawn location mod), AtmosFear.
I'd skip ZRP
makes sense, kinda? I see a lot of people don't really like ZRP because it went far beyond just bug fixes and vanilla
though personally I didn't notice much difference. maybe because the last time before that I played like 5 years ago, idk. overall felt good for me
but sure, it's not a must have mod
No reason to use ZRP when you can just slap an upgraded engine in the game instead
Bugfixes, no gameplay changes, improved performance, improved loading time...
Better on all fronts
so all 3 channels were merged into one? lel
Yes
People ended up talking about the other games in all the other channels as it was
I think we should merge trilogy with 2 as well
people post S2 screenshots in the trilogy section all the time anyway
No and that should be fixed now
If people could read they also would post content in correct areas
yeah, like clear sky stuff in the now missing clear sky channel
how is it fixed?
people still can't read

nah should be unmerged if anything
merge everything into 1 channel
i can get behind that
there will be one channel and thats the clear sky channel and deviation from clear sky is a ban
Admittedly I have not finished stalker 2
But I feel in my bones that it will not compare with the og trilogy
Maybe with enough fixes s2 will be better
The combat is just not as fun as it is in the trilogy imo, as weird as it is to say
@terse crypt what's your opinion?
In the Kot emperor's humble opinion, it's omg cat
Omg
Cat
How did you know?
I'm Malcator the Sigilcate, my task is to spread your word in your absence
Dunno
I dropped it three hours in because of horrendous performance
From what Kuro told be about thr story Im not happy to say the least
Even some bigger stuff like Monolith still being around feels like a cheap fanfic and inability to move from the status quo
Yeah I was interested in the beginning, mostly when I thought the story could pivot in some interesting way
It's just continued to go in the opposite direction I could have wanted
Some sections were cool but they did not last nearly long enough
Who knows, maybe the ending is awesome
The atmosphere is pretty neat at certain times, I can't deny
I wish the balance was good though
That's good enough for me, I won the game in the giveaway anyway
If I spent 60+ dollars this would be a different story
What are the chances of sid selling me a unique thunder s14 in SoC?
10% before getting your first mission reward from Wolf
After that?
0%
just finished cop and the ending sucks man
it's like
having a party cake and shitting on top of it instead of putting a cherry
CoP is probably my least favorite game tbh
the gameplay is fine but the story is just… not all that great
Absolutely 100%
CoP has the most enjoyable side quests
but the Military should not be totally bamboozled by the idea that anomalies move around after emissions, nor should they really not know what a bloody Gauss Rifle is (I mean they encountered plenty of them during Operation Monolith in SoC)
Hell the military’s been there the longest out of anyone
i was kinda hoping the helicopter accidents to be related with the giant gauss under zaton
or some cc plan
now i gotta wait for HoC to release in PS5 :(
Which is best weapon in shadow of Chernobyl? Trying to get best one to complete first play through
Not sure what's objectively the best weapon. I think most Stalkers towards the end will carry F200, GP37, SA Avalanche or the Tundra S14 etc. If it has armour piercing rounds, then it's probably a really good shooter 
Vintar BC
Gauss Rifle if you can get it
Best weapon really is a matter of taste and situation
My favorite for all round use is the BC Vintar
I like the AK
FN2000 is the best stats-wise (iirc), but only accessible either through a bug or VERY late locations like CNPP
idk why but I can't seem to enjoy call of Pripyat
go play clear sky then
my beloved clear sky ❤️
already finished it vanilla 
CoP felt too linear , i got bored
I lobe clear sky
I lobe clear sky
I lobe clear sky
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Lol. Back to CS posting cmon
Peak
Its the least linear of the three
But also most empty one
Big open maps with lackluster Alife are a bad combo
Clear Sky is probably the most linear imo
I mean there is technically only two endings, and one of them technically is just a non-canon failing one.
¿two endings?
I say two because technically during the final sequence you can fail to disable Strelok’s psi-protection and there is an audio thing from Lebedev before the player is killed. It has no cutscene and isn’t considered a canon ending but it is an outcome during the final mission
Lackluster A-Life? Call of Pripyat has the most refined A-Life out of the three.
In the console version of clear sky theres a mod which turns bolts into boxes
It makes bolts useless for the entire game but its fun af too throw boxes at ppl
No movement of NPCs between levels and no offline simulation at all results in it feeling very lackluster compared to SoC and CS.
That's because maps aren't connected the traditional way. You can only move from one to another with a guide. What do you mean offline?
I’m aware of the reasoning behind it but if greatly limits the possible scenarios you can see, the other two games are way less predictable because of that.
Offline simulation is when NPCs move and fight when outside the simulation bubble (beyond the switch distance), such as when the player is on another level or just far enough away. That doesn’t happen in CoP, any kind of fights and movement only happen when you’re within 150m of those NPCs.
I didn't know about the bubble. I thought only 2 had it. In Call of Pripyat, I remember seeing a four way fight between a chimera, blind dogs and pseudodogs, fleshes and boars and a few zombified stalkers happening in Volkhov AA Complex while I was atop the Cooling Tower. I don't know the distance exactly, but it was far enough for me to need binoculars to watch it closely. Similarly, I watched a large pack of blind dogs and a huge group of rodents fighting together against a pseudogiant and overcoming him. I've never seen A-Life fights this grand and intense in the first two games.
If you see something physically, even through a binoculars then it’s already online simulation. The difference in S1 is that stuff that’s loaded does not unload upon you getting further, it only unloads once a level changes.
Afaik SoC did have offline sim only for movement (NPCs moved between levels freely without player involvement) but not fighting, CS had offline fights as well which you could observe in your PDA. CoP has neither.
Yes, but, realistically, as a gamer, I'd rather witness large, intense and interesting A-Life fights even if they are centered around you, so to speak, as to see them and enjoy them, than watching colored dots "duking it out" in real time on the PDA. I'm not saying A-Life is inferior in Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky, I'm saying A-Life in Call of Pripyat is made so the player can see it in action more often, with different possible outcomes. Also, Call of Pripyat maps have more interactions between NPCs and/or mutants than the other two, especially if the mutant related tasks have been completed, which is a big irony. Yes, I understand, if you stay in the Yanov station, nothing will happen more than 150 m away from you. Then again, what's the point of staying in one place and not seeing anything instead of getting out there and experiencing it first hand?
I mean, as a gamer, not a modder or a person who understands the intricacies of the game, would you rather see these interactions between AI even if they sort of follow your bubble, or just stand somewhere, see nothing, but know that somewhere, some NPCs are fighting?
CoP had good gunplay but man gameplay was so bland
Doing all the sidequests, keeping all the important characters alive, hunting for artifacts and collecting guns was definitely not bland to me, at least. Call of Pripyat doesn't work if you rush it. You can rush Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky (to a lesser extent), but rushing Call of Pripyat will make you miss on a lot of fun stuff and make the game feel boring.
What is ig?
Shadow of Chernobyl has a much better ending set piece, you go through the most awesome area of the whole series, CNPP, so it's impossible to beat that. Clear Sky also has an urgency feeling to it and the ending set piece is top notch too. Call of Pripyat has a much tamer vibe, there's no feel of impending danger, but it has its own advantages, some of which I've mentioned.
The point of Alife is NPCs and mutants doing stuff while the player is away so you can see how the world has changed in your absence
For example whenever I got hunting for artifacts in Zaton, I first go to the Scar passing the camp between Skadovsk and Ranger Station, I meet a squad of loners there
Once I finish my hunt that takes me around the whole map they havent moved an inch
Thats no fun
I totally see your point and I agree. All I'm saying is that instead of finding dead bodies throughout the map, I prefer seeing the action that leads to those bodies, even if I have to be there to witness it.
Id rather have the action not be player centered
It kills the point of open world with life simulation
Like, how would you feel if you had an aquarium with fish and the fish only moved when you looked at them?
Also, NPCs DO move around the map. Once, while in Pripyat, after choosing to remain in the Zone after the ending, I sold some high tier weapons to some expert loners hanging in the Laundromat. I sold a FT-200M, an RP-74, a SVDm and a G-36. After a while, doing multiple weapon runs to Yanov to sell guns found in Pripyat, hunting for artifacts and just messing around the maps, the expert loner squad vanished from Laundromat. I figured they went out, which they did. I found them dead at the Yubileiny Service Center. Luckily, they must have died moments before I found them, killed by quite a few zombified stalkers and a horde of pseudodogs, so I took back the weapons I sold them several in-game days before.
They only move around few pre-determined points when the player is close by
Pripyat is actually pretty small so they are loaded most of the time
I know, but let's reverse this. How would you feel whenever you look at the aquarium, all the fish happen to be in another place, doing their stuff. Eventually, you want to see them, no?
Thats literally how aquariums work
The fish do their stuff in them, swim around, hide behind the decorations and plants when they need to
I like animals and nature in general. Whenever I hike, I know the ecosystem is working and life is doing its routine, but when I get to surprise a deer or see a hawk catch another bird it feels good and refreshing.
My point is it is rewarding to see something you know it's there every once in a while.
It is rewarding to see something thats there once in a while
But thats much more limited when you need to be around for something to start happening
If I see a deer outside, it feels nice, but if he was just standing there untill I get close enough to see him then thats not rewarding knowing he didnt move when I wasnt there
Point of seeing rare stuff happen is that its rare because it most often happens when you arent around
Mutants in Call of Pripyat don't just stand in one place, they move around too even if it's just a small area. It's like they patrol their territories.
Call of Pripyat also added the Chimera and the Burer, so AI-Life fights are more complex.
Burers and Chimeras barely spawn outside their scripted quests 
Seeing blind dogs, pseudodogs and rodents work together to bring down a mighty pseudogiant was amazing.
Not true. After you do the mutant related quests, chimeras are more frequent in Jupiter and even in Zaton. Of course, they aren't blind dogs, but if you mess around the bases for some time and don't kill everything in your path, there's a good chance you'll run into a chimera in Jupiter if you explore the whole map.
Burers also seem to come out more frequently during the night.
Chimeras usually spawn near the Concrete Bath anomaly, but I've found them in other places in Jupiter.
why would I explore a map thats empty 
argument of "if you wait long enough" is dumb because theres no reason to wait when the Alife had its kneecaps broken with a demolition hammer
When is the last time you've played Call of Pripyat? I get the feeling you are wandering into another "argument" for the sake of arguing.
like a week ago 
Oh. For how long? Did you complete the game, do sidequests and move across the maps?
yes
YES I DID
The maps definitely aren't empty. You can say that about Heart of Chornobyl, but not Call of Pripyat.
Of course they are "empty" if you go by that premise from the get go and you don't explore. You can't see what you don't search for.
I do explore, I try to do every sidequest and get most stashes, I spend hours running from one anomaly to another to get artifacts
and other than the few spawns that are bound to happen theres barely anything going on
usually people just respawn and due to their positioning they clash with someone else
which again, is nearly bound to happen due to their spawns
We must be playing different versions, because whenever I play there aren't two identical encounters. Did you finish Trapper's mutant quests? After you do, many mutants increase in numbers and the rare ones like the chimera and pseudogiant can be found in the open. On my last run, I played Call of Pripyat for more than 50 hours and I've seen A LOT of stuff. For example, the bandits from the Container Warehouse have been completely wiped out by large numbers of blind dogs and pseudodogs, the bandits from the Checkpoint left that area and starting wandering around until they got killed near Yanov Station. I've seen one Duty squad move around the map for some time (several gaming sessions) until they got killed, but each member in several places, not in the same spot.
On several ocassions, I've had mutants spawn around and IN Yanov Station, something which is well known among players. I even had a chimera trapped inside Yanov Station.
You can say a lot of things about Call of Pripyat, but that "the maps are empty" isn't one of them.
@late condor, if Call of Pripyat doesn't have offline A-Life, how do you explain the deaths of the bandits from Container Warehouse and Checkpoint, and why did the ones from Checkpoint leave their spots and wandered around the map until they got killed? Both of these situations must have happened when I first went to Pripyat and spent some time there.
This is weird and does not align with my experience. I will check for sure later and come back to you.
Anyway, this is the first time hearing Call of Pripyat has a bubble. Can you tell me where did you find that information?
It’s switch_distance in alife.ltx lol, all three games have it
You can edit the value to a smaller number and see NPCs spawn in front of you
So, then all three games have it, not just Call of Pripyat?
There's the A-Life bubble in all of them, correct, but the rendering distance varies?
The rendering distance is also the same in all of them, 150m
It’s not rendering distance though, it’s online simulation distance
They don’t just stop rendering they switch to essentially dice rolls for simulation
OK, then why did those situations happen? I named only three, the Container Warehouse, the Checkpoint and the Duty squad. The Checkpoint bandits died near Yanov Station, but I don't know what or who killed them. Like I've said, these situations happened in my absence.
Also I couldn't find anything regarding Call of Pripyat missing offline A-Life. Can you provide a link?
That’s something I heard a few years ago from a modder in a chat, and at the time it checked out with my personal experiences, so no link, and take this with a grain of salt. That being said, I’ve already said I will check out for sure through code and get back to you (#⭐┃trilogy-general message).
There is a chance that happened when you came back or when you were just leaving, or maybe there is indeed offline simulation and I am wrong, I will need to examine this to say for sure.
All I can say is that when I returned from Pripyat for the first time, with the calibration tools and a crapload of weapons to sell, I started exploring Jupiter again and completing some of the remaining sidequests. I immediately found Jack and 2 or 3 of his goons dead near Yanov Station. I didn't remember his name from when I helped Vano, but I recognized his face in the inventory image. I googled him and I've found out who he was. I went to the Checkpoint, which was completely empty. I remember seeing more than a few bandits there when I helped Vano, so they must have died too, but their bodies probably vanished after a while. Jack's body is still near Yanov Station to this day.
Regarding Container Warehouse, I simply stumbled upon their bodies (Shishak was still inside the hangar), while the others, like Yoga, were either in the courtyard, or near the entrance. There were also two loner bodies around and a few dead blind dogs. The rest of the blind dogs and a few pseudodogs were roaming around the area.
every time you start a playthrough the beginning will be near identical
you meet the two stalkers on your way from spawn, then at the camp between skadovsk and rangers station stalkers, mutants and bandits will fight in various orders
That's your example? OK.
it is my exaple because it literally happened every single time I played through Zaton 
Tbh game start is identical for SoC and CS as well
That's a scripted event, right at the beginning. It's like meeting with Doc in Agroprom Underground in every playthrough.
should the camp fight be unscripted tho?
like sure, the two guys are scripted but rest of spawns shouldnt be
You can literally get out of Yanov Station and go to the Cement Factory. The silos are almost constantly disputed by loners, bandits, Freedom, Duty and zombified stalkers.
There are constant fights right near Skadovsk, between bandits and loners or either of them and mutants. And this happens for the rest of the game.
thats because Skadovsk is neutral area so squads of both will go there when the player is around :3
Sure. That's why you also find new bodies around the area all the time, not just fights.
On a more cheerful note, I don't know if this clip comes from vanilla Call of Pripyat or modded, but I find it very funny:
https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/18z28da/yanov_station_is_a_haven_of_relative_safety_loud/
Nitro has changed a whole lot since I've last seen him. He put on SOME weight:
https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1iv529h/why_the_fuck_is_there_a_pseuodogiant_in_yanov/
Reason: Bad word usage
What does everyone carry in Jupiter underground
I got through with an AKM-74
I think most of CoP I just used an upgraded AKM-74
I usually use the Vss and some shotgun
AC-96/2
no reason not to use it when its free
I think i started to use the AC-96/2 after Prypiat-1 last time I ran through CoP
Here’s a fun challenge
Go the Pripyat underground with only a knife and on
Call of Pripyat has a lot of good weapons to choose from. Take a good assault rifle like Strelok's SGI-5K, GP-37, FT-200M, AC-96/2, SA Avalanche, Thunder S14 or its unique variant, the Storm, and a good shotgun, like the Eliminator, Predator (modified Chaser 13) or Carabiner (modified SPSA-14).
its pretty easy since you dont really need to kill anyone there
protecting companions would be pain tho
probably would be best to not recruit anyone besides Zulu
theres one just outside Yanov 

I lobe clear sky
I lobe clear
@late condor
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@terse crypt
A chimera with some blind dogs and a pseudodog, near Yanov Station. In the second picture, you can see two other chimeras in the same area which I killed on other occasions.
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Yo where can I get that unique Viper 5 that shoots 9x18
If you mean the one in SoC, I think it's at the end of a railway tunnel on the western borders of Garbage.
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I lobe clear sky
I lobe clear
I lobe cop
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Sky I lob
Lobedev

No you don’t wtf
i lobe sky clear ❤️
I lobe clear sky
Fact-checked lol
i lobe clear sky
@late condor, did you find anything?
Is the ssp-9m viable for raiding the cnpp?
Yes.
It's especially useful inside the Sarcophagus and Monolith Control Center thanks to its 2nd generation nightvision. Depending on how you play, you might need a new suit once you hit the rooftops. There are exoskeletons inside the Sarcophagus and Monolith Control Center and Skat-9ms on the rooftops.
is the bullet resistance good?
Yeah, it's 40% if I recall correctly.
okay, thanks for the tip
No problem.
it is going to take a while, I will get back to you once I have anything
My idea was to place PDA spots on every NPC and see if it updates on other locations but I would need to recompile engine for that
By the way, since you know the engine and its perks, take a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1zM3ePkYPo&t=12s
This guy does a lot of interesting comparisons between these games. What I wanted to ask you is this: When he follows NPCs and mutants around, he seems to be in a free camera mode of some sort, not actually there, since the AI is oblivious to his presence. Would that mode still trigger spawning in some cases?
Do you mean if the "bubble" follows the player or the camera? The player. You can even fly further than 150m and observe lack of NPCs.
So i have a question im playing shadow of chernobyl and I just got out of streloks cash, what the hell were those those black entities at the end before I exited
They screamed at me and and then multiplied
They would throw something at me
And it would like bring me close to them
Ive tried Google and nothing
Black entities?
Im pretty sure you mean Controller but hes not black and theres only one in that level

He screams, twists your vision and deals damage
unless you have a mod installed there should only be a Controller there after you find Strelok's stash
He was black because I was afar and at one point it looked like there was multiple
My game is unmodded
I think it’s double vision from low psy health
^

So finally took garbage for the loners. But it says there's some bandit squads left even tho it's completely empty. So wherever I leave they retake everything. Are those bandits in agroprom I have to kill?
Yes, but do it with the missions of Orest, the leader of the loners there. That'll disable the bandit spawnpoints there indefinitely
So you got loners to occupy the depot?
I did yea.
I think a squad died and it let some more loners spawn
But I'm on the part where all my stuff was stolen now
But the loners occupied the depot but fot some reason more bandits keep spawning in there and overwhelming the loners inside the depot. Even with the extras from yantar
I think I'll just let the bandits keep it lol
Bandits shouldn't respawn when loners occupy the depot. What version are you playing?
Legends of the zone version
IT WORKED
Oh, with legends of the zone all bets are off
They finally did it. Holy crao
Do the bandit squads in agroprom count for war in garbage?
They count as squads in the squad counter, and point they capture may or may not count to faction resources
@lilac blaze But awesome that you managed it! You're the first on this server to say so as far as I know. Feel free to post some screenshots.
I know this is stupid but, does changing the graphic settings from advanced tab work in the existing save? I'm using ZRP mod only 
Yes, but some settings require you to restart the game (turn off and on)
Not that but like using the same save after rebooting the game?
yes
Thanks for the info! I wasn't sure cus when I played COP Gunslinger, you need to start a new game to make the changes affect
gunslinger is a lot of changes so thats why
Reason: Bad word usage
The loners eventually just had enough squads that every time bandits spawned in the depot they overwhelmed the bandits. Didn't even really need reinforcements from yantar. I think a chunk died at the flea market from a bandit attack and they just started moving. Also just finished off the last bit of bandits in agroprom so. FINALLY the bandit menace is wiped from the zone
Now I just have to deal with zombies and monolith.
I want to play SoC again, but with better graphics and more realistic gungame. I played AA2 before. Is there anything better now?
I mean, vanilla is better than AA2 
Vanilla gungame is still spongy and trash in my opinion.
I want that one-shot-instant-kill experience. 
The game is designed with gun progression in mind, you get that once you progress enough
Getting high damage high accuracy guns on early levels is like giving yourself max level in an RPG
You’re meant to struggle at first
The game has no skills and anything alike, gear is the only real indicator of player progression
Not when the enemies are just as deadly.
I can see your point.
No, because that still kills the difference between poor-gear player fighting good-gear NPCs
Did the bandits wipe the fleamarket?
Enemies get deadlier with your progression and so do you, but most gunplay mods just kind of kill that by making everything kill from a single headshot from 50m
They didn't. Just killed a chunk of em. Rookie village straight up died tho
But they did attack it on their own?
LotZ is weird...
The bandits attacked flea market yea.
Classic lotz 
Rookie village got eaten by mutants. Lower half of cordon is just infested. Even the military Outpost.
That isn’t supposed to happen cause there are quest characters in there, it’s specifically set as non target for bandits and not even an important spot so that they don’t consider it in faction war
Got one military guy just. Standing vigil down there
Mutants got it. Legitimately no one is left there
The military didn't respawn...?
I referred to flea market
Ohh
Military respawn in vanilla is bound to two nearby camps, if those are occupied they won’t respawn
Yea bandits attacked flea market regularly
Remnant of an earlier idea where they spawned north of outpost and came there
Did you witness new squads spawning there and moving to the depot?
I did
Sounds like bandits wiped out the original squads bit by bit. Once all originals were gone and replaced they started sending out squads. If pc version logic holds any value in LotZ(hmm...)
I'm still surprised rookie village is straight up dead
Happens when they're wiped out and the spawncap is reach by squads that spawn in elsewhere
Rookie Village is getting battered by mutants for me too. In fact the entire Cordon is overrun, I helped them clear it out a few times, but they just come back. Each time I got tasked to take an objective, the only guy to help me is the squad commander. Just me, him and a lot of blind dogs/flesh 😂
In my recent CoP playthrough the Skadovsk was under attack 24/7
couldn’t go to sleep without hearing “PATSANY” followed by a flurry of gunfire
Can someone please explain what the weight+ stat means on the flytrap artifact
wrong channel. This channel is for discussing the original trilogy, not Heart of Chornobyl
пацаны is latinized as patsany, yes
I was simply too lazy to switch to cyrillic keyboard at the time
i barely use russian keyboard
Just got to yantar and red forest in clear sky Game took a sharp turn to horrifying. Dang bloodsucker straight up jumpscared me
Red forest gets to people, yeah
Encountering a bloodsucker in the Red Forest at night is terrifying
🛤️ 🗺️
Oh god no thank u. Also isn't there a scripted bloodsucker event in clear sky?
Or is it a specific pounce animation?
Bruh how the HELL do you get out of that x18 lab? Says someone is holding the door
And no spoilers alr?
Those are swamp things, not bloodsuckers. Back during CS development they were marketed as new mutants and their ability to perform dozen meter long jumps as something unique for them.
But then patch 1.5.03 made them spawn on Swamps without this unique script making them a simple bloodsucker reskin.
And CoP even further confirmed it to be a bloodsucker subspecies by changing “swamp thing” to “swamp bloodsucker”
And again making their abilities indistinguishable from regular bloodsuckers
Ohh
I've figured it out
Reason: Bad word usage
I just started a new playtrough of SoC AA2.
Right outside of the rookie village I found a dead guy named Vampire and his SG 550. This seems like a bug ...
And close by was the corpse of Clumsy.
Clumsy is usually found in the Dark Valley Pig Farm with Vampire in the original SoC storyline.
So I guess they both are dead?
Seems OP to keep the gun. 😂
is there a way to get morgan's pda without doing the quest?
Is it just me or does nimble die after you give him that jacket?
I can't lobe SoC 
Umm hello
Sup
"I said come in! Don't stand there" 
that's a controller
Controller is big brain 🧠
Wanted to ask about clear sky since i dont have alot of experience with it
Upgrade and repair your things, do not rush the story, sell artifacts, spend time for the exploration, buy stashes.
Soo.. just play it like SoC?
Well you do not upgrade and repair in SoC. Also in SoC you won’t run out of meds normally but in CS that happens quite often, but if you explore for scattered loot and breakable containers you should have enough.
Stash buying mechanic is also not in SoC. They may hold quite a few unique things but it’s often a gamble.
Also be careful about when you join a faction, it could make specific sections of the game much more challenging
If you come across a field of anomalies, remember to pull out your detector and see if there're any artifacts hiding within 

It's possible that rarer artifacts can only be revealed by more advanced detectors tho 


Hey, I need some help with Clear Sky. I want to obtain a GP37 and since I'm a Duty Member, I can't get the bandit one, or the freedom quest one from the Army Warehouse. But the wiki claims :
"Another GP 37 is available as a reward for an optional side mission given by random Loners, Duty, Freedom or Mercenaries squad leaders in the Army Warehouses"
But no General has any available side quest to do
Am I missing something? I have just cleared all my side quests I had lying around to make sure I have space, I helped the mercs getting out of the bubble, but nothing so far, despite having great rep with duty and loners. Do I have to kill the freedom commander first? Do I need to finish the whole red forest questline?
Youre with duty?
yes
Im sorry
?
I hope you make a swift recovery
D-do you know anything about how to solve my problem though?
I only know of the bandit faction GP37 personally, I've not seen any stalkers carrying it around either 
the wiki also says no npc carries it. It's apparently the third side quest reward from the army warehouse quests. And from a reddit comment it seems like I couldn't receive one since you can only have one delivery quests active at a time. I still need to collect the reward for getting an inscribed pistol back, so that seems to be the problem
Emissions removed Scars ability to multitask unfortunately 
Welp, apparently that did not do the trick. I got my reward, waited till the next morning, went back to Army Warehouse and they still won't give me a quest
Getting reward is a separate quest, it shouldn’t stop your progress with Return Item
Oh reddit person, here my response to your last comment:
I picked up a retrieval quest for some duty soldier, I think at the entrance of garbage. Didn't do it for a long while then completed it after having no luck at Army Warehouse for the first time. Didn't went to receive the reward until you said I could only have one retrieval quest.
I recieve my reward around the time I just helped the mercs out of the bubble, then done the fight at the bridge against the bandits, went back to Clear Sky, got the F2000 and then went back to Army Warehouse but still no luck.
It shouldn’t matter when you received the reward, again, that’s separate quest and has no impact on availability of others. After completing the duty soldier quest, did you have a case of asking anyone else for a quest, them offering it to you and you not accepting?
Since you mentioned CS ammo quest in Reddit comment, I will elaborate: this only refers to Return Item quests that require unique items with a map marker, not Bring Items quest which asks for common items and is repeatable.
Your best course of action is starting to ask around in Garbage and further locations. Someone must have something that you can complete.
I was in a similar situation myself, looking for a way to get an exoskeleton before heading into Limansk. I assume it's highly unlikely to find one for sale unless you have joined a faction and helped them enough in the war? 
Yeah, pretty much every other region has quest, garbage has some, I think red forest had some. But I didn't want to get bogged down more, as I finally wanted to get a good gun. Do I need to complete a few more side quests elsewere for Army Warehouse side quest to appear?
Reason: Bad word usage
Hi.
I played a lot of Clear Sky yesterday. Powerful game in my opinion. I rarely stop for more than a minute to contemplate the scenery in video games. Yesterday, however, it happened at dusk, in the rain, watching lightning strike a remote area of the Swamps.
Thanks GSC!
PS
I don't understand why screenshot captures and background recordings don't work on Steam for this game.
Yeah, pretty much.
Keep in mind the army warehouse fetch missions can be a bit iffy, at some point for me the first one of those missions was only offered by a single freedom squads for some reason.
Gotcha. I try to do some other missions and see if that opens any up in army warehouse.
A good place to start, yeah
Funny thing occurred. Right when I entered lymansk. The bandits took the depot again lol.
Just started CoP and my side mouse buttons arent working, has anyone else ran into this issue?
you can screenshot just gotta go through the files to see them
nvm
On Steam not work the capture of screenshot. Sorry for my english, i am italian.
Really do not care for clear sky's final boss
So, I went back through a couple of maps and noticed no one offered any quest, I went back to clear sky and saw people offering item delivery quests, so I did all I saw there, and now I could accept other quests. Which worked so far, did 3 side quests in Army Warehouse, but not the one for the GP37, and now one one offers it. I still have other quests in garbage and red forest, so I don't think a delivery quest is active, I also checked every green and yellow dot on the map in Army Warehouse and talked to every commander there, but they all are not giving me any more quests.
What problem am I experiencing now?
are there still loners in the army warehouses?
I think this final segment has ruined clear sky for me.
it's not where the game shines, no
yes, one camp to the north and one near the exit in the top right with duty
also it seems I can only accept quests in the red forest currently, but I did receive item missions like 3 times already from 3 different commanders, and I talked to none of them while doing the 3 missions in army warehouse, only after I went around and no one had any quests
no wait apparently not, it seems red forest suddenly stopped now as well.
well I found a quest giver in the duty base did it, tried army warehous again and no luck
you playing pc version or LotZ version>?
I'm playing on PC, completely vanilla Steam download
but I give up, went back to the duty base 3 times now and did a item retrieval quest and I still get no other quests in army warehouse.
I now spent over 6 hours on trying to get a gp37, I give up. I am just gonna use the F2000, despite wanting to use a different weapon this time.
Sorry to hear that, I couldn't tell you why it's not showing up
You need to do them in order
All Agroprom, all Yantar, all Red Forest and only they will you get the mw quests
If you found one on duty base then you have at least two location in front of you (and potentially more quests at Agroprom too)
Yeah but they already managed to do 3 of them in the army warehouse, so I don't get the logic either of the next one not showing up
Oh I must have missed that, which ones have they done?
I've done the one for the pda, then meat grinder and a third I forgot
There’s a 24 hour cool down between taking several retrieve item quests from the same squad
Might be that?
OH FUCJ
oh right the ammo from the helicopter was the third
I think I finally yndetatand why you can’t do that
I spent 4 in game days since I did the first 3 quests, so that can't be it
If a specific squad (freedomers on the hill under bloodsucker village) has died then you can no longer take the quest from ANY squad, it’s a known bug.
I completely forgot about it
wow
yeah I killed them early on since they were immediatly aggresive since I'm part duty
so I never had a chance and spent 6 hours for nothing?
Yeah 
This should REALLY be mentioned in the wiki
It is
The tip is to never use the English wiki

dang
Me omw to use the wiki in my native language (french)
Would it help if I suggested a possible alternative weapon? @scarlet slate
I'm already through that one city after the bridge in the red forest and fighting monolithians, I don't think there will be another good opertunity to switch

Now he is long gone
Wow, that one needs some cropping...

Imma kms
Does that make a difference or..?
I was talking about the image I send having too many wide borders
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Can someone help? I'm stuck here because the game immediately crashes as soon as the MG behind the hill dies or shoots. I tried everything in game, it feels like and I just can't continue
Sorry to hear that. I can only think to do the usual reload an earlier manual save and retry the section, or maybe one of the autosaves might unstuck it. 
Hmm, last time I had to reinstall the entire game when a similar thing happened in garbage maybe I try to reload an older save then...
Worth a shot 
Post the crash log
Clear Sky/appdata/logs/user_XXX.log
Nah that’s a generic application execution trace log, need the game’s specific one
gotcha
that leads me only to an empty xray log file and similar files in an mdmp format
Oh if it’s empty then crash reason is obscured. :(
Is it empty after every crash? Is copy buffer empty as well?
I don't know I have been playing Rain World for the past hour or 2 since I am feeling really burned out rn. After spending 6 hours to gte the GP37 just to find out a bug is preventing that, as well as the final section being buggy and causing crashes
I'm looking into it tomorrow probably
Reason: Bad word usage
ah yeah idk it works for me just gotta go look in the game files
Reason: Bad word usage
Expression : fatal error
Function : CScriptEngine::lua_error
File : E:\priquel\sources\engine\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 180
Description : <no expression>
Arguments : LUA error: ...alker clear sky\gamedata\scripts\task_objects.script:1589: attempt to call method 'alive' (a nil value)
(This is the copy buffer)
(I died from the gunner)
No buffer when the gunner shot and it crashes
Expression : fatal error
Function : CScriptEngine::lua_error
File : E:\priquel\sources\engine\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 180
Description : <no expression>
Arguments : LUA error: ...alker clear sky\gamedata\scripts\task_objects.script:1589: attempt to call method 'alive' (a nil value)
(Gunner died)
Yeah that is useful.
I will take a look a bit later
Also before trying, I completly reinstalled the game, so it's a fresh install
Very few issues in stalker are fixed with a reinstall. I will take a look at the code when I get the chance but I am currently really sick so it might take a couple days if you’re ok to wait.
no worries, take care and good luck on the recovery!
Does nimble die after you give him the jacket in soc?
Not as a rule to my recollection
Nah he's generally fine
Obviously anything can happen occasionally with the way the game works but he usually hangs around the rookie village
Yah
He dies after I've given him the perfected suite
Like in his sleep
Not immediately but after I came to check on him, he's dead
wut
Weird af. Usually NPC don’t die for no reason.
Closest to that is collision death.
Idk man. I gave him the jacket, and I just wandered the zone for like idk 1 day or so and when I came back, bro layin in the floor bed there DEAD
Used zrp tho
most of the time (for me) he's dying when I'm coming back to Cordon from Dark Valley and there would be bandits in the car park again
I wish they'd do a sale for the clear sky and COP for the spring sale
They discounted it last spring sale. Surprised that they didn't do it this year. All 3 games costed around 10 bucks during the prior steam sales.
Yea I got Soc during that sale. Which is why I ask, i miss how cheap the games were. Clear sky isn't expensive but I cant exactly drop 20 on a game like I used to lol
Why STALKER trilogy didn't getting any discount this sale?
I want to gift my friend STALKER bundle as an surprise today
But when i check it up the price remain unchanged
Do i have to wait at some period of time for it to finally get discount or the game developer really just don't wanna give's any discount in this sale
I’m pretty sure I bought the entire trilogy for like $15
last time it was on sale it was during Winter Sale
it was on sale last Spring Sale, maybe they don't discount everything at once
My guess is it might have to do with upcoming LotZ pc release
Setting a discount and then selling the port for 3x the price a few months later may make the LotZ price seem even more absurd than it already is
Damn it
Yeah I got all 3 for 10 bucks
same
Is he a important guy or something?
nimble? nah, but he appears in the other games
hey, I cant find any info on this online, but, how can I use artifacts? attaching to belt seems to do nothing
What ones? How are you determining it doesn’t work etc.
fair question actually, I dont know if it actually works or not
Some artifacts have mediocre stats, so it can be hard to notice if it's doing anything beneficial.
You basically need to suffer from a thing to tell if it’s working. Whatever it’s for
When the artifact makes my brain 2% more resistant to the Psy-Emission 
You now die horribly in 10 seconds instead of 8
When are those horrible deaths coming? I played till the part where I have to steal the military documents and its been very easy so far
probably a few more hours in
thats still the early game iirc
It's not really as hard as its reputation suggests
nah not really
Just checking, on what difficulty are you playing?
The game is easy if you get good equipment and don’t play like a dumbass
People who complain that it’s hard usually rush it with a broken weapon and suit and then complain they die too fast and their weapon doesn’t do shit
Honestly, I can understand how someone can die with decent armor in one of the higher difficulties but in my opinion, the weapon and player damage scaling in stalker is quite possibly the best I've ever seen in a shooter game
I didn’t have a problem really until the CNPP fight on my first playthrough of SoC
not that I remember at least
Stalker I think?
I didnt get good equipment lol I just ran thru everyone and picked up their weapons
And I had 1k+ 9x18 I had to drop it cuz of weight
Then I guess that kinda answers your question 
I think difficulty can be changed at any time if you want, whatever makes the first playthrough most enjoyable 
you can change the difficulty somewhere in the settings while in-game i think
hell sometimes i still rush and do fine mostly…
Not really a single best weapon, but your usual suspects of 9x39 weapons and high end 5.56 guns like the SGI 5k and GP37 are always solid
ah so same same as uhhh, soc?
yeah pretty similar
I tend to use the Vintar since it's Scar's signature weapon from the opening cinematic, and the ammo is plentiful enough in the endgame
lobing clear sky
Choose the weapon that you can get the most ammo looted in the field. If you carry a boutique weapon that requires boutique ammo that you can only buy, you're going to have a bad time.
@naive hollow spam
Reason: Bad word usage
And again...
Do artefacts respawn in clear sky?
yes but its buggy
it's unlikely to happen in normal gameplay
So I'm new to series going through SoC and it's a challenge but not in a bad way
Going through some tunnels atm that this guy Mole sent me through
Did you talk with him before going to tunnel?
He just said head into the tunnel but I didn't talk with him in the menu
Was I supposed to?
Are you playing pc trilogy or LotZ?
If you are playing lotz no you don’t have to talk, but on pc it’s essential to enter dialogue with him before going underground
Greetings my little lambs in tomato sauce!
How are you?
still can't believe i managed to complete Clear Sky vanilla
gonna fully mod it next time
I have SRP maybe it fixes the problem 🤷
I may or may not take your word for it
SRP does fix both the reload bug and the fact that the timer does not run on other locations
Meaning they just respawn in 2 in-game days with no ifs and buts
Would not have guessed
Marked one,what the hell?!
Reason: Bad word usage
No dont worry
They are a few timers like "you have two minutes to access that door". But the only way to fail story missions is by dying
You can spend hours between story missions without any problem
Thank you
@late condor is there anything that influences sprint-speed in CS?
No, think it’s always the same value, why?
someone commented on a video of mine that I seem to sprint faster than normal, just their mind playing tricks on them I suppose
Did you maybe edit your FOV?
is COP gameplay better than clear sky?
I hate clear sky so much i dont think i can play cop if it is similar to clear sky
personally i enjoyed both a lot and i guess CoP feels more open if that addresses your specific concern
Get this man 
Im mostly concerned about the gunplay aspect
Like the gun fights in clear sky was so trash even a full durability ak74 would have a 5m dispersion at 20m range
hmm guns felt fine to me but i always prioritize longer range weapons (scope) + shotgun so it worked well for me
What about the 5 grenades thrown at you every 10 seconds
lol that's the fun tho
It’s fun at the start but not when you have to fight monolith in tight spaces like the stupid clear sky ending
So my base accuracy is trash and I have to keep dodging grenades at the same time
And the only gun with good accuracy was the vss with 15 round mag
ye ending fight is rough ngl, i feel CoP def is more "fair" in that regard if that makes any sense; if these were your concerns I feel you should be able to enjoy CoP
It's easy tho. Loads of guns are accurate too, just upgrade them
Yeah I don’t mind the difficulty I was playing at veteran mode and doing fine until that part of the game, so seems like cop would be a better game then
Last playthrough I went through the point of no return with no meds and only used about 200 rounds
I couldn’t, in the technician the tabs were all locked
Gunplay in CoP functions similarly to CS, but weapon accuracy is slightly better by default iirc, so it's generally easier to hit your intended targets 
Upgrading weapons and Equipment is also similar to CS, so you can upgrade your shooter to be pinpoint accurate 
ye i do generally upgrade accuracy/flatness first and that helped a lot
Yes absolutely but its a bit boring at first so give it time
damn
CoP is the worst stalker game
Make that what you will
i agree on that one
Worse than 2?
Yhea
its true though lol cop mid as hell
3 maps and an incredibly retarded military who didnt know anomolies moved yet in previous games it was established
It's good for one playthrough and then you have seen all the game can offer basically
Main story is barely there but it has some well produced side missions
Fr side stories best part imo
Strelok pulling up to the military like he didn’t gun dozens of them down at Ahroprom alone literally two weeks ago
Military wondering what could possibly bring down a helicopter when “065” and an unknown Airmobile squad ate shit due to an electrical anomaly during Operation Monolith
(Unknown because despite there being a squad onboard “065” they’re not listed on the Operational plans you can find)
Degtyarev investigating the helicopters: hmm, interesting. It seems like it crashed because the crew put on Bandit Radio at full volume and drank more Cossacks than Zulu 


"here's to a steady hand!" 
i have a question, whats the lore reason for me to have to go retrieve the x18 documents in the underground lab (SHOC)? i know i gotta find strelok but how does all this connect?
X18 is just to help the traders
oh so im just giving a hand while i look for strelok
also should i know why i should find strelok yet? im scared i skipped important dialogue that explained it on accident
Consider it 2 intertwining storylines
One is finding Strelok, the other is finding a way to the center of the zone for the traders
i see
And you generally need to do the latter to get the chance to advance the former
whats in the center of the zone?
CNPP
That's what they want to find out. The rumors say there's potentially many riches to be found, and an object that can grant your wishes
awesome
so in game im still figuring everything about the zone out while i look for strelok
the whole reason i look for strelok is cuz i found his pda and he might know what happened before i woke up?
Yeah basically
It's your only connection to whatever happened before you were rescued from the truck
makes sense
If CoP is mid, HoC is bottom of the barrel. Oh, wait. It actually is. By S.T.A.L.K.E.R. standards, of course.
Disagree to disagree
the difference is that HoC isnt finished (it has chance to be good) while CoP has been mid for around 15 years now 
does it matter if i give the x18 documents to either sodorovich or the barkeep at bar? (shoc)
You can show them to Sid but then he will have you bring them to barkeep anyway
oh bet
Bad bait
considering that HoC does much better than CoP
hard to say wether its bad bait or genuinely terrible opinions
can i put a silencer on the saiga?
Whyy
DAMMIT I IMBED FAILURE EVEN HERE
epic embed fail I saw there
*insert “powder that makes you say ‘Real’ “meme
CoP can’t hold a candle to PEAK Sky anyway
That's why it's the highest rated of the three, everywhere. Because it's "mid".
yes actually
it is mid
just because majority enjoys something, doesnt mean its good
just look at how many players World of Tanks has 
its the highest rated because it is the one that has the least complexity and is the easiest to understand for the average consumer
you said this as a joke, but yes, you are 100% correct
Least complexity? Like the best upgrades for weapons and suits and best artifact hunting, with the most refined artifacts?
Yes, artifacts are balanced horribly as they become nothing more than meaningless baubles used to obtain money, they are too common and easy to obtain, as well as not justifying the downsides of their use on protection side, this system will homogenise your build as everyone uses the same artifacts without fail, however, it is definitely a plus if you play with your brain turned off not wanting to engage with the mechanics
Same is true for the overall balancing of the game, the upgrade system including, the way the game his balanced is to warrant the least energy input by the player with weapons that will never need upgrades only becoming ever so much better with them making the game so easy that there is not even a reason to have fights in them, the accuracy of all weapons is also a interesting thing, since everyone turns into a sniper engaging enemies from 500 meters away trivialising every fight
Indeed
This is the best game of the series for people who hate to do anything but click thru dialogue and hold the w key
Cope and seethe, SoC is the best
Exaggerating for the sake of hating on something. 500 meters? There is no situation where you will have to engage anyone from that distance.
True, but for completely different reasons. Shadow of Chernobyl being the best doesn't detract anything from Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat.
Every single thing I have just said is a problem with how neutral and Boeing CoP is in it's balancing, but I can continue, of courses the narrative is a neutral and boring one as well, nothing outstanding comes from it, the maps are ugly and not well designed, the game entirely relies on it's side stories which can be said to be rollercoaster rides, fun the first and second time however shallow, the game completely guts it's simulation systems and lobotomized itself to make sure the player requires the least amount of attention required to complete the game
In this way it attains a larger fan base, the reason why it gained the most traction is entirely because of this, while the other games forced your hand to their own terms, CoP is all too happy laying with it's belly up, ending with nothing all too interesting to show for it past a few scripted moments
Maybe it is also the most enjoyed as it is the most reassembling a western game, it's very showy but surprisingly boring and stale
It is no suprise that CoP is the most atypical one for the series in terms of design
It's not Boeing, it's Antonov.
Hell even gamma better then CoP tbh
Gaming has fallen through the floor, too many games to are absolutely garbage, but the youngsters don't know better. That is all they have been brought up with.
Soc is the best one, Clear Sky has an annoying trick shot grenade spam...
CoP, is just rubbish.
We're still getting great games constantly, just mostly not from the big names of yesteryear
I don't think putting mechanics into annoy players, frustrate, them, artificially make things grindy to force people to keep playing to meet subscription playtime quotas is ever good.
Micro-transactions, fomo, and other sinister tactics just make games frustrating annoying.
But people claim these games to be good... When they are really really bad.
Most games are about exploiting the player.
Indie games are where it's at these days
Waiting for little devil inside to come out.
Looks amazing
I'll have to check that one out
Thank you
CoP has one good thing
And thats when you port bildo maps to it they look pretty good with the lighting 
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How much better is 2 o havent played since release
this is the trilOG channel
But I guess to answer your question it's noticeably better than at launch
Hi have they said anything about fixing the performance on consoles after the 1.08 update? after it updated my game feels like it has way more frame drops than before while just walking around and playing the game normally
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i just finished it and i cannot agree
i dont understand what would make cop the worst, maybe the ending is slightly anti climactic but in terms of enjoyment it was much better than clear sky for me
last point, you merely have a bad opinion

i agree with you that soc is better
but i honestly commend the game for adding all the new mechanics and stuff, also id much rather not die from bleeding every 5 seconds lol
and being able to run is nice too
but yeah artifacts didnt make much sense to me in cop
so imo COP is not the worst but not better than SOC
In an exoskeleton, no less.
Guys
Why doesn't nimble come back?
Bro just vanished without a trace
I ordered him to get a sniper rifle
Its been 4 or 5 days now
And I've been in and out of zaton and jupiter plant
sleeping should work?
dang it nimble
And I use these mods too #🔩┃trilogy_modifications message
well i only played vanilla so hopefully you can get it sorted
Alr I'll try
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nimble got me the best sniper he's such a bro
Which one do you think is the best?
it was the ||Lynx||
I wouldn't call any of Nimble's snipers as superior over the others
They all have their own strengths and weaknesses, but I consider them equally viable for their specific purposes
ye obviously it's subjective - I like how it shoots, I like how it sounds and it worked well for me
The Lynx and the Tide are still better than their normal counterparts, especially when it comes to accuracy.
Oh absolutely, I'm not counting the default versions
Ah, OK. I misunderstood.
The Lynx is VERY good if you want long distance shooting until you, eventually, get the Gauss rifle.
haha i picked up the gauss, shot once, and switch back to lynx immediately
The gauss rifle is still unmatched if you want 1 shot kills against humans without aiming for the head and it's instant death with just one shot for almost every mutant, except the pseudogiant. I think chimeras also need headshots to go down in one round, though.
It's hard to get around the gaussrifle in the sniping mission tbh
Really tried it with others, but they just don't perform as well.
One shot? When you engage the Mercs?
Yeah
Well, yes, obviously. Those guys are well armored and, unless you headshot them even with the Lynx, they won't go down in one round. Nevertheless, I've got something better for One shot, the RPG-7u. One round for Serbin and Jackal, and one or two for the remaining mercs that flee. Only one or two, tops, manage to escape. 😄
The amount of times I've tried it with the svdm they give you thinking the previous times were just a skill issue
And then miss due to sheer lack of accuracy
Tried that actually, fairly amusing
The SVDm-2 you get at the start of the mission is just for cash.
Thats fair
Why the hell is Joker's PDA missing?
It's supposed to be near the thing right?
Like very close to it?
I must say playing this game first time in years first 5 hours was satisfying and not bad. Only thing that throws me off is npc door clipping.
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Look carefully around Oakpine anomaly.
Are you playing lotz? I’ve seen many people report it missing in lotz.
Something to do with x64 collision calculation iirc
Are mods available on consoles? Because he said he used a couple of mods. He also had Nimble bug out and disappear for a long time, so mods could be responsible in both cases.
Retextures yes
If he used pc mods then again, if any mod he used uses x64 engine it may be same issue
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Oxr 64 bit
It's not there man
is there anyway to teleport to the underground? I found his pda
I can free look type of thing using demo_record 1
you cant teleport underground but you can pick up items with demo_play.
Unless OXR fixed that
I can't pick up
It says click f to pickup or something but when i pressed it, nothing happens
Oh demo play?
Thanks I'll check that out
Like first go to the location using demo_record and then input demo_play?
yeah
Hey man pls tell me what to do now
I'm near the pda
When i input demo_play 1 it just teleports me back to the surface
you need to press space in recording to mark points that the camera will move between
and end recording with esc
Could I send you a dm?
Man
idk what that screenshot is supposed to tell me
I don't know what to do after this
in demo_reocord:
- press space at points you need to record
- press escape
then demo_play that recording, during demo_play (NOT record) you can pick up items
Nah man
Didn't work. It teleport me anywhere in the surface but not underground
no idea then
Just play vanilla, man, if these mods are such a hassle.

I can't now cus I've played this for 60 or more hours
Yeah, I feel you, but start over on a clean, vanilla installation. If you like the game, it's worth it, but I understand your pain.
I'll just play this now
I can't waste more time playing again
I'll just skip that mission
Now I need to ask something
Who are the best people that I should recruit to go to pripyat? (No spoilers alr?)
For the game to advance to the next step, you only need one more besides Zulu. There are three guys you can recruit, but you said no spoilers.
Yah I got them
All of them 
It would make your life easier if you would give them better weapons. ||Sokolov|| and ||Vano|| could use higher tier assault rifles, like upgraded AC-96/2, TRs 301 or SGI-5k. If you have the cash, by all means, give them upgraded GP-37. ||Vano||, however, will be a great addition against mutants with his default shotgun. ||Strider|| will be valuable against the human enemies towards the end with his sniper, so let him as default. ||Zulu|| has a great weapon, but is the most fragile of the lot. Do not let mutants gang up on him as he can die quite easily.
Now do the Pripyat-1 Run with no armor and only a PMm
How to give them weapons?
The monolith guy has a sniper rifle, zulu has a freakin machine gun and the other guy has a shotgun i think
How bout a knife only
Like a monolith soldier with no weapon and stuff
That's the shit we do
Sokolov is in the most dire need of a new weapon. Have the weapons prepared in your inventory and immediately after you start the mission and gain control of your character, drop the new weapon in front of him. He will pick it up on the spot.
Not really, Monolithians are effectively war machines. To rush into gunfire is suicide, a waste of a good soldier. Not even Monolithians are like that. You're looking at 40k instead 
Alr
Is 20000 rubles enough?


anomalies move guys