legends-of-the-zone

[dusk wyvern]

we back in 2008 or smth? haven't heard "epic fail" for probably over a decade lmao

[wicked fjord]

DAY 21 SINCE THE ZONE WAS BADLY AINHANCED

[zenith pendant]

it's not going to get better, if they were going to actually go back with crappy ai edits they would announce it

just leave an honest review and move on with your life, EE is a cashgrab

[loud mountain]

Shitgrab

I wanna try it on my Switch 2 but it would be the same ass version as PS5 & Series X

[zenith pendant]

It shouldn’t? It would be base lotz release.

[loud mountain]

If that's the case then good, it'll be a little shit but still enjoyable.

But if they updated Lotz to EE for Switch 1, then it would also be EE for 2.

Despite it only releasing a few days ago.

I looked it up, doesn't say LotZ nor EE, so I hope it's LotZ.

[lost moat]

hi stalker. I try to have the trust of Freedom or duty in Call of pripyat but I don't know how to do.

[zenith pendant]

Yeah, some downgrades over original but at least no ai upscales and no broken model smoothing

[loud mountain]

I give it like a couple weeks for them to flush the EE shit into the Switch 2.

[zenith pendant]

FAQ says no plans but tbf same FAQ says that the game has 21:9 support and full Ukrainian localization (both were a lie)

[loud mountain]

No plans only shadow drops.

They never announced LotZ for Series X / PS5, it came out of nowhere. Which was a nice surprise but they clearly like surprises.

[zenith pendant]

Well EE still has all the switch code

Either as legacy, or maybe cause there are plans for Switch 2.

I’ll need to see if there are any new switch-related changes

[loud mountain]

They'll definitely update it to EE on the Switch 2 at some point. It just came out, they're probably waiting for either more restocks, or to release some kind of a half assed patch that "fixes" some minor issues on the games themselves

[cyan valve]

crvcker has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

kentus_08cz has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wicked fjord]

DAY 22 SINCE THE ZONE WAS CAUGH IN A BUDGET ANOMALY

[bleak monolith]

Lol

[loud mountain]

Day 22 since I shid my pant & EE dropped.

[strong wharf]

Bro 22 days since they still haven't apologized about calling us russian bots

[wicked fjord]

Longest official insult ever lol

[strong wharf]

ONG

[zenith pendant]

Tbh I would just want an official acknowledgement

[strong wharf]

Same

Its been so long Its just gotten awkward

[zenith pendant]

I mean official acknowledgement of the issues lol

Not whatever Gsc called people in a closed channel

[cyan valve]

surdno has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith pendant]

Just a post with something among the lines of “we royally screwed up, sorry for not noticing it earlier, here’s a whole list of things you can expect to get fixed”

[calm shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/we-screwed-up-ultimate-cowboy-showdown-we-fucked-up-we-messed-up-we-make-mistake-gif-18508211

[wicked fjord]

DAY 23 SINCE CORDON WAS BLURRED TO BITS

Damn the more we ask for a simple word, the longer the days go

Soon it'll be a month and after that it'll be a year

Sadge.bmp

[wary osprey]

Not good

[wicked fjord]

I have bad news, the countdown is about to suffer a firmware update so schedule changes are a-comin. Stay safe out there, stalkers. The EEs are dangerous waters! 😛

[sterile drift]

Just launched the game in PC after the patch and the antialiasing still be worse, better disabled :/

[strong wharf]

[eager viper]

Lul gotta love this carp! I notice the patch notes were rather sparse, indeed.

Some transparency would be awesome, ngl.

[zenith pendant]

Can confirm this has been fixed in 1.1

[wicked fjord]

Oh no, 1.1 out and no trace of grenade cooking coming back. I guess its so butchered code wise they need more time. Ew.

[strong wharf]

thats insane that theres no grenade cooking

[wicked fjord]

No, I have a weird explanation for it, bossman Dee-Lite

What if Monolith made em do it so we can't spam nades back at them? Like... it does make fair sense, no?

[grizzled marlin]

Version 1.1 of COP takes forever to manually save or load a game. The game hangs for ~20 seconds to load my game saves list when I click the "load" or "save" button in the main menu. I'm at prypiat, about 2 missions from ending the game. Playing on PC.

[solar blaze]

146 dislikes

[wicked fjord]

@eager fossil Some weeks ago you said the grenade cooking mechanic should be brought back as it came broken with the release of EEs. When can everyone expect the thing to actually land back in the game? Weeks? Years?

UPDATE: You said it on 23 last month - #legends-of-the-zone message

[loud mountain]

Took this long to essentially patch like 14 things.

Sorry, let me correct myself, 16 things (I don't count the 2nd one since it literally just compacts "Oh we fixed crashes", then proceeds to list said crashes individually anyway.")

[wicked fjord]

Major patch feels like minor hotfix
Yes or No?

[loud mountain]

Compared to them flaunting hundreds if not thousands of fixes for S2 every time they drop a patch (as inconsequential as those fixes also are), this is definitely a hotfix.

[heady marsh]

game freezes when i click load game on CoP now 😦

[wicked fjord]

They should have just added some simple QOL features to all 3 games via update instead of releasing this broken mess as standalone version, would've spared both time, money and manpower, as well as the bad image

[wicked fjord]

You meant to say "Ainhanced" edition

Those 2 are as different as comparing apples and oranges. Heheheh.

[loud mountain]

That would take effort.

They ran the game through AI & resold it at the same price as the originals (if not higher) because A. Nobody bought the OGs, marketing tactic and B. You could find keys for the OGs on third party sites for peanuts, but now they'll have to charge you full price on Steam. Oh, and C. Console releases, introduce an entirely new market albeit to a poor product.

Maximum profit, below minimum input.

That entirely depends on your moral compass.

If you ran the company efficiently, with care for your consumers, no.

Otherwise all options lay bare.

I don't think it would. Stalker has a niche audience, it's small as is. You're essentially selling to a limited market, and the longer development takes, the less profit you're bound to make. A year was honestly more than enough, considering gems like Fallout New Vegas were made in LESS than a year. And that was from scratch, ground zero, not just a remaster.

They completely fumbled the time they had for quick & easy profit. Seems like the company that handled it just sat on their ass for 90% of the time.

Honestly just look at EE lol, half assed censorship, AI enhancements, and that's literally it. That doesn't take a year, it takes a week, tops.

Based on how they utilize their time, I don't think even 6 extra years would be enough.

[wicked fjord]

The dude did it, lol

[heady marsh]

not so sure about that. I think in March they announced there were over 6 million players for Stalker 2.

[loud mountain]

... That's incredibly niche lmao considering how long ago it released. It also totals in gamepass, which means past, and current players.

The original trilogy is niche as hell, sure S2 hit the markets much bigger than their prior products, but most of the community is already disinterested.

Also if we're talking about the trilogy (which we were), those games are INCREDIBLY niche.

It also saw a peak of 120k on Steam, compared to something like Elden Ring which had 953k.

It's niche.

Most of the player count comes from players on Xbox who tried it once, and put it down since it's free.

[boreal agate]

6 million is more than many reasonably big titles will do

[loud mountain]

Players are incredibly easy to achieve, especially when the game is free. Sales are not.

[rocky plaza]

[RXID=b0070000-49cd-ff0d-0000-000000000000] keep getting this crash when looting the bandits that are attacking train yard after leaving agroprom

[heady marsh]

Something that is not majorly popular like Elden Ring isn't automatically "niche"

[loud mountain]

Kay chump. I broke down the numbers but we're all entitled to our own personal fantasies.

[boreal agate]

Elden Ring was a generational level hit

[zenith pendant]

Dude, the thing is, you don't even need to remodel.

Did you know there are SOURCE textures available? Like the in-game ones are compressed to shit, but there are uncompressed versions OF EVERY TEXTURE USED IN THE GAME

they could literally use those, plug & play, no artist work needed, and the game would suddenly look a lot better

but instead we got upscaled of DXT compressiona artifacts

[zenith pendant]

EVERYTHING about the EE screams "maximizing profits, minimizing effort".

[zenith pendant]

On top of this, they could use higher resolution textures from earlier protos if they dedicated some time to go through the earlier versions and see where higher res textures were available.

comparison pic here (#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message)

This needs a bit of work to actually add back all the stuff that is present only in 1K version, but goddamn it you have HIGH RES SOURCES why use AI upscale

[winter bear]

Stalkers

[calm shadow]

Stalkers

[eager viper]

lul I still don't know anyone who has played it xD (I know, I live under a rock)

[wicked fjord]

@burnt ridge Will you guys ever officially announce Frag Lab being the developer for EE in place of Mataboo? Like, whats the point hiding it when people already found out in the game data, right?

[boreal agate]

What would that accomplish exactly

[limpid badger]

The 1.1.0 update for the "Enhanced" Edition of STALKER Clear Sky completely broke the game for me. Every time I click on "Load Game" it crashes. I even tried reinstalling the game, but the same thing keeps happening. Can somebody help me pls?

[lunar seal]

try to make a new save

[limpid badger]

Nope. It didn't help.

[civic jetty]

is modding better on enhanced edition?

[lunar seal]

it's a better compared to before but not even close to og

[zenith pendant]

Still can’t mod the engine so no

[vague ridge]

worse than the og, better than what EE had yesterday

[boreal agate]

It'll be hard to top the originals when everything leaked from the originals

[zenith pendant]

I mean, one way I could see topping the originals is going source available or, even better, open source.

Imagine a world where community can contribute engine edits. Literally extending capabilities of X-Ray through pull requests. No more dozen forks focusing on different things, ONE official repo maintained by GSC.

With people suggesting fixes directly instead of dealing with obnoxious Tech Support tickets.

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1laleva/the_uncompiled_ee_shaders_have_just_been_released/

Either way, apparently the EE screen space shadosw are just copied and pasted from an Anomaly addon lmfao

[lunar seal]

💀

[strong wharf]

Man this is INSANE lol

Gsc shoulda stayed closed this is embarrassing lol

[loud mountain]

Nice plagiarism.

[boreal agate]

Kind of amusing since those shaders are free to use as long as you credit the creator

But I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess they didn't in the credits

[wicked fjord]

Wait till the creator of the given addon learns about his crap being CTRL+V'd

Day 24 and sheeeeit is getting crazier

Wait a moment, its Friday the 13th!

[pale jewel]

Atp it does feel like the community was thriving more when GSC was in the shadow realm. And the players really had no limits and kept the IP alive. The sequel alongside the restrictions to modding just feels like a burden more than a blessing.

[wicked fjord]

💯

[lunar seal]

he will probably won't be able to do nothing

[wicked fjord]

Shine light on the case to a broader public

[pale jewel]

I enjoy the fact that it’s on console, I played the OG and S2 on my xbox and it was my real entry to stalker, but seeing how S2 released in a half cooked state, The modding having restrictions now, and we also now deal with the typical “wait for the game to full release after the initial release.”

[lunar seal]

stalker community started to downfall after 2018, when anomaly released

[pale jewel]

Eh, but atleast then there was a stalker game for everyone

[lunar seal]

uh

[pale jewel]

You could easily ignore anomaly, and there was Gamma and other smaller mods

[lunar seal]

you can just, pirate it

[boreal agate]

Well I can't say the community exactly wins on the plagiarism/asset theft front but

[lunar seal]

standalone mods are piracy btw, but gsc just don't take them down

[wicked fjord]

Internet is piracy but it exists freely

[boreal agate]

Otherwise I wouldn't be listening to Metallica while beating deathclaws to death with a crowbar in op-2

[pale jewel]

Tbf some developers opt we don’t own our games now a days

[wicked fjord]

I own my shit, LG DVD\RW power

Why d'ya think I still have it

[strong wharf]

So peak

Im close to finishing ogse so im between op2 and nsdmx

[calm shadow]

Have you ever tried Lost Alpha?

[strong wharf]

No not yet

[boreal wyvern]

What does the recoil slider do?

[civic jetty]

what is best game to buy

[real spear]

I mean, if you buy them individually, you are gonna have to pay 20€ each (for a total of 60€) so I recommend getting the bundle if you can since without sale that ends up being 40€ instead.
As for what I can recommend, it depends on what are you are looking for:

• Atmosphere: Shadow of Chornobyl
• Refined mechanics and gun play: Call of Prypiat
• Buggy mess with simple faction mechanics: Clear Sky

[strong wharf]

buy them all

call of pripyat prob the most mid though

[vague ridge]

"refined mechanics and gunplay"

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-spider-man-tobey-maguire-jk-simmons-laugh-gif-17162788

[real spear]

I mean, by refined I mean the fact it's the last of the trilogy and they had time to do more stuff with the mechanic like how you find artifacts xD
And the gun play does feel better imo

[vague ridge]

People really do love it when their games mechanics are thrown on top of the chopping block and cut piece by piece

now I know why Bethesda makes so much money

[real spear]

Unfortunately, I'm not exactly sure what you mean in this case.

The mechanics I refer as refined is what Clear Sky started already but that game is buggy as hell if having to install the fan patches is anything to go by.
Like for example, the upgrade system had more options, the detectors have an extra upgrade in the form of the Svarog prototype and the way healing works was changed (I rather prefer the bandages in this game to Scar's constant bleeding at least). At least, those are the changes I noticed

[strong wharf]

You can play all the stalker games vanilla

[vague ridge]

COP only made everything worse while cutting mechanics with the precision of a shotgun
artifact hunting trivialises the game, artifacts are the worst they have ever been, combat is a joke, stashes are awful, the writting is completely dry and the story plainly sucks, balancing is completely nonexistant and upgrades only serve to further make every other aspect easier and more awful, AI is worse

COP is the worst game in the series hands down

[strong wharf]

I agree 100% tbh it peaked with clear sky. COP was rushed you could tell

[lunar seal]

in story clear sky is way better than cop

[vague ridge]

it is also unsuprising that, because it is also the easiest and most braindead of the trilogy, it is the one coopted by most of the population

[real spear]

I didn't mention story bc that's more subjective.
To me it was like "I already know how pointless this is" so I was more interested in the rest outside the story.

[lunar seal]

cop is more stable and less bug than clear sky

but clear sky is just better than cop

[vague ridge]

well of course a bethesda player wouldnt care about the story, the only thing he can understand is the most basic of base mechanics after all

no wonder COP is the best, to him

[lunar seal]

cop is just mid, it have big maps, but a dead a-life, it's stable but with a mid story, better gunplay but with a mid gun progression

[vague ridge]

maps sucks as well, the game design obligates them to have unnatural focal points that are used once for quests and then forgotten, like disposable junk food, also quite ugly looking with low quality textures

[real spear]

I mean, I don't think the difficulty of the combat is so much about the mechanics since both CS and CoP treat the difficulty and accuracy of NPCs the same. I do get what you mean since I did found it the easiest of the 3 as I played it after finishing CS on Veteran and I played CoP on Master, so I did notice it was fairly easier even when I was taking more damage on Master.
Artifact hunting trivialises almost all of game in some way, in SoC we have the bug of the armor repair if damaged with a type you have over 100% protection and CS still has pretty "OP" artifacts for what utility they have. And even ignore that, selling them is a way to get everything in-game except the unique stuff.
I do agree with the artifacts in CoP feeling pretty disappointing tho, I went with armors with almost no slots bc I barely used them.

But those complains don't really mean it wasn't refined mechanically, as well the most stable and the most bug free of the bunch from what I experienced. Whether those changes are right or not, I didn't mention it bc that's more so personal taste bc not everyone cares.

[real spear]

I didn't say this BTW
To me the best is actually SoC

I prefer the atmosphere and the story of that one, hell I replayed that one through mods like Radiophobia 3 😅

[vague ridge]

COP trivialises Artifact Hunting because it is so easy to farm artifacts, however, artifacts are so bad their only use is farming cash, you cannot farm CS artifacts
it wasnt refined, unless by refined you mean make everything piss easy because then the friction the players would have is meaningless, but so would be the game

boring tasteless

Radiophobia sucks btw

awful opinions

[lunar seal]

radiophobia 3 is kinda meh

[vague ridge]

I have the defenitive answer and taht answer is bad opinions make you a bot online
nobody would have a bad opinion in the internet, only AI

[real spear]

Personally, I'm surprised you didn't mention it's worse aspect in all of this. Which is the lack of randomized missions.

[vague ridge]

what is the poing of lenghtening the stay in such a boring and still game? its a good thing they arent there, bc there would be no point to them

[real spear]

The fact that you are left with nothing to do after finishing the story outside of repeating Artifact hunting missions for Beard

[lunar seal]

you should try prosectors project or soc gunslinger

[real spear]

I'm busy with Goldsphere rn

[vague ridge]

rare naretos l

[real spear]

BTW, this is why I ended up leaving it once the mission for the Scorcher popped up. I liked some things added to it in between I didn't want to do the same but more annoying for the Sarcophagus

[lunar seal]

better than radiophobia btw

[vague ridge]

thats like saying having explosive diarreha is better than dysentery

[lunar seal]

atleast soc ga don't touchs the story

[real spear]

For context, Radiophobia was the first recommended mod I found. Before I found True Stalker, Incubator and SFZ Project

[vague ridge]

it has GA

[lunar seal]

but no inert system

[vague ridge]

it still has GA

[lunar seal]

radiophobia 3 is a mod basically for people who only like hardcore and guns

[real spear]

What do those add for curiosity? I've seen Gunslinger mentioned but it seemed another vanilla plus experience which isn't what I was looking for

[real spear]

I noticed, felt like Anomaly a bit too much for my taste

[lunar seal]

it's anomaly but soc

it even uses gamma UI

[vague ridge]

youre gonna make everybody vomit

[real spear]

Should have mentioned, just finished Dreamcatcher before starting Goldsphere and I have to say, who was the hateful person that decided that everytime I take high damage I drop my weapon?

[lunar seal]

if you want something really different, there's prosectors project and nlc 7, but you will need to deal with the unfairness of both

[vague ridge]

its a thing in mods since 2010s

[real spear]

I mostly hated it at the end, when every single enemy does that much damage and I kept dropping the gun in the open

[lunar seal]

nlc 7 have a really cool story inspired by roadside picnic, but most people can't even go past cordon

[real spear]

I was thinking NLC 7 after Goldsphere actually

[lunar seal]

olr 2.5 is also a good mod, it brings back a lot of cut content from old builds and the old story based on design documents from 2003

[real spear]

Is it that hard of a start?

[lunar seal]

from start to end

[vague ridge]

NLC7, turning boys into mentally ill men

[real spear]

That I did hear about but I wanted to give it a bit of time before

Lost Alpha is another one on my mind

[lunar seal]

lost alpha is a kinda...

walking simulator

[real spear]

Messy?
I found to be kind of funny given the circumstances xD

[vague ridge]

LA is only good if you play 1.0004, the more modern the LA version, the less good it is

[lunar seal]

another good story mod is return to the zone

[boreal agate]

NLC7 is for only the most masochistic players. And OP-2 is only for the most based players

[vague ridge]

just say youre both and play DSH

[lunar seal]

op 2.2 is to factory workers*

[boreal agate]

A true rare breed

[real spear]

I've seen quite a few versions of it, so I wasn't sure on where to start to be fair.
I've seen a version that has the HP and Stamina bars from STALKER 2.
One that is supposedly the latest as well
And one older one

[vague ridge]

basically, LA originally has a really goofy storyline with a lot of backtracking, the more modern a version of LA is, the more seriously it takes itself, and the less goofy stuff it has, which loses the point

I was playing LA for the goofy fun stuff, so removing it and turning it generic is making it worse

[lunar seal]

lost alpha have few versions, the original 1.3, the dc 1.4 and the enhanced edition made by other people (basically lost alpha but harder and guns)

1.3 is the best

[vague ridge]

and yhea, by newer versions I mean the revisions made by other people that usually just try to make LA into a cheap NS knockoff

[real spear]

Anyways, I'll get there eventually xD

[boreal agate]

My impression of LA was that the maps were incredible but with the amount of backtracking and how slowly you move it can get very tedious at points

And yes the story is kind of nonsense but it can be amusing

[real spear]

When you say slowly, how much slow do you mean?
Bc I'm used to going through long distances, hell STALKER 2 has made me go in a few circles already between it's secondary missions and main stories

[vague ridge]

each new LA map is bigger than a COP map

and there a lot

half or 25% of these are made for car sections meaning they are deserterd bar a few focal points

[boreal agate]

I didn't even leave the cordon before going into the config files and increasing my move speed because it's so slow, and one of the early missions is just running across the map and then back again with little to encounter on the way

Once I did that I did enjoy myself for a while

[ruby needle]

Doesn't Countryside use the layout of the scrapped deadmil map

[golden ridge]

Extended*

[golden ridge]

That's a must indeed. The biggest buzz killer in large map mods is the weirdly low MS

Blind dogs faster than you lmao

"Blind"

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil the .ltx files still do not work even with new Workshop uploader. The problem was never in .pak limitations, you could pack configs normally, they're just not loaded by the game engine (and still aren't).

[wicked fjord]

Molit doesnt seem to talk to us anymore, @zenith pendant What have we done to earn this :c

[zenith pendant]

? Mol1t has not ignored my questions.

seems like a you issue xd

[wicked fjord]

.........

[lunar seal]

he is just inactive

[zenith pendant]

I don't get what kind of answer you expect for "why the EE is shit", technical questions on the other hand is a different category

[lunar seal]

last message was 1 week ago

EE can have problems, but just saying it's shit without giving a reason will not fix it, the best you can do is report the problems and hope to them maybe fix it.

[zenith pendant]

I did a whole list of EE downgrades and asked Crimson to send it through, he did and it was ignored xd

[lunar seal]

that's why i said hope

[wicked fjord]

My hope was flushed down the toilet...

[golden ridge]

He's on holiday. He'll be back by Monday I think

[golden ridge]

Look message above

[grim fossil]

yo i havent played the trilogy yet is it good

[strong wharf]

Hey yeah the og trilogy is great

[grim fossil]

thanks bro

[zenith pendant]

lmfao found my messages from March: #legends-of-the-zone message

[loud mountain]

Prophecy

[harsh cove]

[wicked fjord]

Who would know SurDno is a prophet

[bleak monolith]

The possibility for mods are still limited for consoles, wonder if STALKER 2 is gonna be any different bc they’re still gonna use mod io instead of their own site like Bethesda games does.

[loud mountain]

Mod.io is garbage

[strong wharf]

Fr

[lunar seal]

for consoles it 100% will, for pc it will be better but will still limited due to unreal 5 rules

[zenith pendant]

Aight this one is cool!

[wicked fjord]

#FunkUnrealGiveBackXray

[zenith pendant]

Apparently EE exposes run_string command

[wicked fjord]

Everyone jumping Unreal like its a golden dick...

[lunar seal]

there's a reason for them to not use xray, because it's a dogshit engine

[wicked fjord]

As if Unreal isnt

[lunar seal]

unreal is infinitely more easy to work on

if the game is alread like this on unreal, it would be 20x worse on xray

[wicked fjord]

Its not the engine's fault if the driver has no clue how to drive the car

[lunar seal]

but you have way more chances of crashing your car if you are missing 3 of the 4 wheels of your car

[wicked fjord]

It's no secret today's developers seek easy money with minimal effort

[lunar seal]

but the work of just updating the xray engine itself is not even worth since you can just use pre-made engine

reallistic, just updating x-ray engine would be something that would take from around 2-4 years alone of time and money

[wicked fjord]

Das why we had A-Life literally lacking A-Life in the first place

Anyways boss

[lunar seal]

that's not the reason

the main reason is that game runs like ass due to poor optimizations

also, the a-life exists, but it got turned off by the devs before the game release due how buggy and performance eating it was, that's why there's alot of mods that brings a-life back in the game.

[wicked fjord]

@pastel nexus @zenith pendant can you reaffirm that part

the a-life exists, but it got turned off by the devs before the game release due how buggy and performance eating it was

[lunar seal]

just accept it bro, x-ray engine was never a option, and would never make the game better

[pastel nexus]

It seems true. Do note its very slowly coming back online each patch.

[lunar seal]

[pastel nexus]

1.0 had almost nothing. But now there is something.

[wicked fjord]

J. of Holy Christ

[pastel nexus]

X-RAy engine is garbage and cannot be used for a modern game btw.

[lunar seal]

a-life will only be bring back when the devs finally make optimizations and fixed enough to it be enabled without making the game in a unstable perfomance eating mess

[zenith pendant]

We do not have S2 source code, any statements about it are conjecture and speculation based on configs

[zenith pendant]

Weak mind opinion

[pastel nexus]

We can observe the changes each patch though.

[zenith pendant]

X-Ray should be used for everything

[pastel nexus]

Remember SurDno, you lost the argument on the stutters we had previously 😛

Doing what is best long term helps even poor people more than doing what is best for ... ugh low-end stuff right now I guess

[vague ridge]

🤓

[pastel nexus]

I apologize for capitalizing the name @zenith pendant it just comes naturally for me it isnt mean on purpose

[vague ridge]

tho Xray is pretty bad

[lunar seal]

xray was ok for it's time

[pastel nexus]

Its a 2001 engine that competed well even in 2007-2008 with upgrades

[lunar seal]

1998*

[pastel nexus]

it deserves respect for sure. But it is terrible for modern day.

[zenith pendant]

I mean, UE5 is a development of UE1

[vague ridge]

even for its time it wasnt the best

[zenith pendant]

Would you call that “proper upgrades to the 199whatever engine”?

[vague ridge]

people will cope and seethe because UE5 is bad but Xray even for its time was very choosy and picky

[pastel nexus]

It is a development of it I guess, but it isnt the same engine.

X-Ray cannot handle garbage collection well. Its regression testing is very poor. Its in general quite crappy.

One thing not being perfect = crash. Unserious engine.

UE5 is heavy. UE5 needs work from devs. But it is a modern engine made by professionals.

[zenith pendant]

Wdym by garbage collection it’s manual memory management engine there’s no garbage by definition

[pastel nexus]

Thats... the problem ;d.

Either way GSC only had the option of brand new engine they themselves make OR something like UE4 or 5

They chose UE4 ajnd started work. Then switched to UE 5.1. I hope they can switch to 5.6 later on.

[zenith pendant]

That’s not a problem lol, garbage collection is a very performance intensive process. My actual job relied on reusing as much memory and allocating as few managed objects as possible.

Also you said it’s not “working well” while it’s not here at all.

[vague ridge]

it still is a engine wether or not its crappy, just look at UE5 :D

[pastel nexus]

Fair enough. I should be more brutal on it.

[pastel nexus]

GSC really made a mistake imho with Software Lumen

[vague ridge]

they made a mistake when they even thought of using lumen

[pastel nexus]

... what

[vague ridge]

shouldve just put the internt to work placing lights down

[pastel nexus]

You mean prebaked lighting?

[vague ridge]

traditional GI

[pastel nexus]

Why? They could have used HW Lumen or other DXR alternatives

What is the point in supporting the GTX 1080 Ti? Its dead. Let it rest.

[vague ridge]

They clearly had the right mind in not shinning and shutting out anyone not using 2080s And above, but also weren't commited enuff to actually devote time to it I guess

[wicked fjord]

Quite insane for someone to say such a thing without being able to prove it, I mean naretos'

[zenith pendant]

Just FYI no good C++ engine has garbage collection built in, even Unreal one’s is limited to checking references to actor-derived classes in particular, anything else you forget to free the memory of is a memory leak.

Garbage Collection is only an expected behaviour for languages like Java or C# and engines built off them.

And even there it’s a plague, not a feature. Any good developer knows it should be avoided at all costs.

In terms of memory management X-Ray is actually really well written and optimized.

It’s a feature only in a sense that it speeds up development time at the cost of performance.

[pastel nexus]

2080s are 2018 hardware dude.

We really needed GSC to be like id Software here.

[vague ridge]

And

[wicked fjord]

Das my guy

[pastel nexus]

DOOM The Dark Ages is so impressive. I do critique only its textures for being made ot fit on 8gb GPUs. All else I love.

[pastel nexus]

Could be why Rostok in S2 was so unstable until recently

[native hazel]

2080 is the cutoff? Lucked out lol

[boreal agate]

Yeah doom requires you to be running something from the past 8 years or so but it runs very well if you can run it at all

I guess at the absolute min it might be spotty but I had zero issues for my entire playthrough

[bleak monolith]

I think the Bohemia (arma dayz) engine would work for a STALKER game

[harsh cove]

Cryengine ngl it would be look perfect and it's German-Turkish work.

[native hazel]

Arma2 DayZmod mentioned?

[wicked fjord]

How much days yet, @strong wharf ?

[strong wharf]

Day 26!

[wicked fjord]

Oh man you breaking my heart (albeit its broken!)

[native hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fixed-gif-14953349

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-ashleigh-smiling-dog-happy-gif-18087413919487765408

[calm shadow]

I've never had any problems with Rostok. What do you mean?

[pastel nexus]

Memory leaks and crashes

[zenith pendant]

@golden ridge is molit back yet

[native hazel]

Not to our knowledge

[golden ridge]

Seems not

[vague ridge]

!ban @robinson060659 scam

[cyan valve]

robinson060659 has been banned

Reason: scam

[native hazel]

Persistent mothertrucker, isn't he

[gleaming raven]

Not sure if this is the right channel, but when should I start thinking about the factions in vanilla Shadow Of Chornobyl? So far I’ve basically just stolen a gun for Duty.

[zenith pendant]

You're free to do whatever you want, you can be enemies with everyone for all the game cares. It's still gonna work out.

[gleaming raven]

I heard that apparently they start fighting later in the game though, right? I wanna know if I can influence that war in any way, and if so what the consequences would be. My current quest is Turn Off The Brain Scorcher.

[zenith pendant]

There is no overarching war that you can influence, more a few smaller scenes that result in either faction controlling a certain small area of the map.

[gleaming raven]

Alright, and what if I don’t do anything? Do they just fight anyways and go along with their story without me?

Duty has better fashion but I kinda vibe with Freedom’s line of thinking more. And I don’t want to anger the bar.

[gleaming raven]

Basically, I wanna know what actions makes which faction more prevalent, and what the consequences of those actions are for either faction.

[zenith pendant]

There are no long term consequences apart from getting hostile with either faction which you can’t go back from

[gleaming raven]

So if I don’t pick a side they will just eventually start a fight that will just never end?

I am a ”don’t touch anything until you know each and every option and outcome” type of person lol

[zenith pendant]

There isn’t a fight that never ends. There are a few scripted scenes later in the game where they fight. What you do know doesn’t influence those, they will happen whether you take a side or not.

There is also a quest line where you pick a side at army warehouses but it has no long term consequences

[gleaming raven]

Okay so picking a side basically only makes one side hostile, without really giving much benefit?

Like, there’s no duty/freedom base that is owned by which faction wins those scripted scenes (or are they scripted as in there is already a winning side pre-decided)?

[zenith pendant]

Only freedom can get hostile if you side with duty. Siding with freedom can be done without hostility. And yes, it doesn’t affect anything else later in the game.

I don’t want to spoil you everything that’s going to happen in later locations but yeah what you do now is pretty much just that.

[gleaming raven]

Alright, I probably wont do quests for either faction any more in this playthrough then, maybe in another playthrough though.

[calm shadow]

When you return from Yantar, General Voronin warns you,
not to follow Colonel Skull and his renegade Duty in the AW.
If you warn Freedom about them and they are defeated, you benefit
by getting access to the Freedom Trader and 1/5 of additional jobs in the game.
If you side with the renegade Duty and they kill the Freedom leader and Trader,
you not only lose access to all those jobs, but you lose 1 of the 5 Traders in the game.
The Freedom Trader sells weapons, ammo and armors, some items ONLY sold by them.

[zenith pendant]

While those are only sold by Skinflint, they can be acquired by other means. There are at least 4 places where you can find either Freedom suit, the weapons and ammo you can easily get off respawning NPCs.

[calm shadow]

There are many Freedom armors, so just saying the Freedom suit is too vague.
Most players don't stay in the game long enough to farm rare ammo from NPCs.
If you want to get the Freedom Exoskeleton, Skinflint is your man if you have the money.

These are most all the free armors in the game with one or two exceptions.

[zenith pendant]

Which is why I said “either” freedom suit. You can find both the Guardian of Freedom and Wind of Freedom in multitudes.

[calm shadow]

As shown above.

That's 59 armors counting what I am wearing.

None of the Exoskeletons are included yet.

[zenith pendant]

I mean, exoskeleton is not even a unique item. You can buy them off Barkeep. 33% more expensive, sure, but nowhere near a unique item.

[calm shadow]

Exoskeletons are unique if you can only get them from a Trader.
However, without spoiling it for Rebecca, you and I both know
about that special stash activation, you get in Yantar that
gives you one, so you don't have to waste your money.

Unless you just really dig the Freedom yellow Exo.

[calm shadow]

However, I probably shouldn't use the term "unique", since most people
exclusively use that term for weapons and armors that have the green arrow.
I should say exclusive, I guess. Here's all the unique weapons that can be found
in the game. These armors and weapons shown are PRIOR to entering Pripyat.

[zenith pendant]

On top of those that you already have in your stash, you could also get multiple instances of Tunder 5.45, as anything that’s sold by a trader is effectively sold in unlimited quality as it’s restocked (with the exception of Clear Sky’s Hermit).

But yeah the green arrow is never an indicator of there being only one instance of that in the game. Not to mention some stuff that is not green-arrowed is limited in quality, such as Martha (that most players can only get one instance of).

[calm shadow]

Oh yeah, it doesn't include the Tunder 5.45 you can buy from Sidorovich.
I don't like that gun and won't spend the money early to get it. However
I have a friend in Spain that loves it and will carry it in the entire game.
The green arrow is for unique items, despite if there is one or two of them.
Likewise the unique VLA as a reward, can be gotten endlessly if you know how.

[zenith pendant]

Yeah I have seen that video. I still wonder how you never experienced the calendar rollback glitch

[calm shadow]

There are of course, more weapons and armors to be found in Pripyat and the CNPP.
The screenshots are actually from a video entitled "12 Months in the Zone: Rostok stashes".
This is from one game, where just for fun and to study the game's stability, I spent one year
from May 1, 2012 to May 1, 2013 in the Zone, before I entered the Pripyat level.
I did experience two calendar glitches. I think GSC failed to include December 31st,
so you went from Dec 30 to Jan 1. The other glitch I think corrected itself after March.

[golden ridge]

You guys are having fun I see

[calm shadow]

Yep. Talking to him, as I uploaded my 4,206th video.

That's now 809 Stalker 2 videos that I have posted.

[golden ridge]

Yay

That's huge

[calm shadow]

I've been playing Stalker 2 for almost 7 months.
I'm still on my first game and have only seen about
1/3 of the game or less. I probably won't finish it this year.

Unless of course, I have some game-stopping event. Knock on wood.

[zenith pendant]

I am talking about calendar just rolling back after prolonged play, I have a video of that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coQSMKDYJhA

time stamps and when the rollbacks happened:

0:36:00 | 03/10/2012 17:58 > 15/08/2012 00:56
1:36:13 | 25/09/2012 20:23 > 07/08/2012 03:21
2:41:15 | 21/09/2012 07:28 > 02/08/2012 14:26
3:46:18 | 16/09/2012 18:31 > 29/07/2012 01:29
4:51:21 | 12/09/2012 05:35 > 24/07/2012 12:32 
5:56:24 | 07/09/2012 16:35 > 19/07/2012 23:33
7:01:27 | 03/09/2012 03:39 > 15/07/2012 10:37

Note that this has time scale set to 10000x to have the glitch more noticeable but other than that pure vanilla game

[calm shadow]

GSC never expected anyone to be playing past December 2012.
Once you get into 2013, the calendar starts fucking up but corrects itself later.

[zenith pendant]

I am not talking about 31 Dec 2012 glitch. That one happens way earlier on. The video shows it happening in September.

[harsh cove]

Same as 2000 problem...

[zenith pendant]

No lol that’s the weird part, it rolls back at different intervals and how far it rolls back differs as well

[calm shadow]

Good. You two can talk. I've been trying to watch a show and have to keep rewinding it.

[harsh cove]

[calm shadow]

Thanks for the backup.

[harsh cove]

[harsh cove]

I just got ill, like my head is like big bubble rn, I dunno

[frozen sun]

is there a reason why on COP the subtitles and voice over are completely different?

like, even the dates and stuff are very different to what's written in the subs

on the intro movie

[zenith pendant]

VA made off the old version, devs then re-did the texts but new English VA was never provided

Subtitles are more correct, I’m surprised EE didn’t feature a new English translation considering the original one is laughably low in quality

[frozen sun]

ahh fair enough. maybe they will get to it eventually lol

[zenith pendant]

I seriously doubt it, that would require effort and love for the series

[zenith pendant]

The tools are released, the issue is still here. It's not about being unable to pack the files - the files are packed succesfully but ignored by the engine and not loaded. The tools did not do anything to address the problem, unfortunately.

[eager fossil]

Hey, can you remind me the details, or simply sum up the issue, so I can ask the team if that is intended behavior

[zenith pendant]

The engine is not reading .ltx files from configs even when those are correctly packed into .pack files. It is currently correctly reading scripts and .xml configuration files (such as character profiles, encyclopedia entries, UI positioning and texture descriptions), but completely ignoring .ltx (so you can’t even do as much as change carry weight in a mod).

It is most certainly not intended behaviour because it makes very little sense — you can modify the game’s scripts directly, but not the values that they read? There is no potential security vulnerability, this just seems like an oversight.

The new Workshop steam guide even mentions configs changes, and so do fan content creation guidelines — the only actual exception for modding they list for PC mods is the engine.

Currently mod authors resort to leaving installation instructions in mod description to copy the mod .pack file into the game folder and rename the extension to .dbX, and then the mod works correctly. So it’s not an issue with the tools

[bleak monolith]

The old VA gives you a taste of that time or if you played already is just better imo

[eager fossil]

can you give me an example of such a file so we can do the test?

[zenith pendant]

i just sent a link to several affected mods but Wolf deleted it :(

do you have access to removed messages so that i don't have to get all the links again?

i'll pm you the links

[golden ridge]

Message:
Yes, any of the following mods should work, but don't because of .pack restrictions:

• https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3485263383&searchtext=
• https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3485989019&searchtext=
• https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3497249814&searchtext=
• https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3486498329&searchtext=

[grim fossil]

hey guys imma gonna buy one of the legends of the zone games cause i cant afford all three

which would you reccomend and which has the most freedom in it

[lunar seal]

soc (Shadow Of Chernobyl)

[velvet bane]

can someone help me? im just now playing clear sky EE and got stuck, it says that i have to wait for reinforcements to arrive,

[grim fossil]

guys should i mod shadow of chernobyl in any way and if i have to how

[calm shadow]

It is generally considered ideal to play any of the games without any mods first.
Otherwise, how are you going to know the difference between what is in the game,
and what you added or changed with your Mod? The Stalker games are about hardship,
so it is expected for you to die many times. Make plenty of manual saves as you progress.

[zenith pendant]

Out of the box is fine, modding is for later playthroughs.

[grim fossil]

thanks bro

[calm shadow]

That's funny. I remember when the only way you could buy games was "in the box".

[lunar seal]

no need to mod soc

[grand lion]

Just OG cover in Ukrainian for your Friday evening, stalkers. (With some real life Zone)

https://youtu.be/mgTmXiC4Ptw?si=RGc3MCKB7ciCqftt

[wicked fjord]

DAY 32 ...AND STILL NO WAY TO COOK GRENADES

[strong wharf]

[golden ridge]

Who called you so?

[strong wharf]

the leaked community manager message

they still should address that

[golden ridge]

I already explained that one

[strong wharf]

true fair counterpoint ( i deleted it )

[golden ridge]

It wasn't meant for anyone other than the first wave of review bombing which I personally checked stats to confirm. It wasn't an official GSC statement too and it all got out of context and used to create a shitstorm

[strong wharf]

ah fair enough that makes sense ( it was also awhile back so ive forgotten some things)

[golden ridge]

Fish memory like me

[strong wharf]

our struggle haha

[zenith pendant]

Tbh I’m surprised they did not implement a region block when giving out EE

[golden ridge]

Me too, tbh. It should've been the case

[zenith pendant]

Can’t buy EE but you here, get it for free

[wicked fjord]

Are you still ruzzian bot, Based? Why, man...

[strong wharf]

[wicked fjord]

[neat mulch]

Although GSC didn't

[harsh cove]

I mean Steam didn't cared at this point, because I knew one other game that got block in my country due to "Homosexual Themes" and you cannot get it's free update even, Steam blocks it.

But at this time, Steam didn't do it to block EE update to banned places.

"Homosexual Themes" I said is just few scenes where two men kissing.... Don't ask me why I have it.

[loud mountain]

Homosexual

[golden ridge]

[solar blaze]

It reminded me when in school someone would say something stupid and when get punished for it tries to pretend it did not happen

[neat mulch]

Basically, yeah

[zenith pendant]

Name of the game?

Research purposes ofc

[harsh cove]

Why tho

[zenith pendant]

Uhhhhh I wanna see how steam handled it???

[harsh cove]

Are you gay?

[native hazel]

For Academic Purposes

[zenith pendant]

That’s unrelated

[harsh cove]

But I see

Because I'm Bisexual, brother

[zenith pendant]

Man I just wanted the game name not a public coming out

[harsh cove]

I forgot the name of game bruh, its been 2-3 years since it got banned, since then I removed it from Steam, since I cannot get it

but I only remember

[velvet bane]

How do I join freedom in clear sky? I can already join duty though I don't know if that means I can join freedom

[native hazel]

You need to have helped freedom with the mercenaries to be able to join them

[heavy flume]

Help with mercs in dark valley, flood the apro underground

[velvet bane]

Uhh where can I do that, getting the quest to help with the mercs?

[native hazel]

Freedom leader

[velvet bane]

Yeah where is he now, I talked to him before and got to a point I can ask to join freedom but he said no, but now I can't find him

[native hazel]

He's in the building opposite of uncle yar's hangar

[velvet bane]

ok ive checked both big buildings in dark valley, the one in the south and north and still havnt found him

[native hazel]

Building with the concrete ramp, going up the stairs, right after the catwalk, open the door

[zenith pendant]

You have image permissions just show him on the map, help the brother out

[native hazel]

let's first see if he gets it like this...

[velvet bane]

Oh yeah I found him after looking

[wicked fjord]

Whyyyyyyyy

[velvet bane]

new issue, ive captured everything but main base of duty for freedom, but none of them are coming to secure the points and advance the quest, ive waited, quicksave and load, but nothings happening

[native hazel]

only attack/capture points when there's already a squad on the way and close by, otherwise you just break the factionwar

[velvet bane]

oh

so im screwed?

[native hazel]

reload save

[velvet bane]

update, niether had anyone on them so they immedietly are hold

[native hazel]

and always make manual saves before starting something new/important

[velvet bane]

like nither have duty on them, i just reloaded before i went to them and they are on hold and wait till allies come

eventually someone started coming, but then they disappeared

[cyan valve]

kstaann has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[heavy flume]

Tf

[golden ridge]

I usually clear any enemies on the way from dark valley and follow squads that are moving, sometimes they need a kick up the arse

[calm shadow]

If you know Call of Pripyat well, you should already know what happened here.

[velvet bane]

what do i do to progress in CoP, ive gotten two of the helis but one is on a plateau i cant reach and the other two are south in the map and idk how to get down there

[zenith pendant]

Ask around, some NPCs will point you to getting on the plateau

[velvet bane]

ok, guess ill head back to the ship with people

[zenith pendant]

You should have also gotten a map with one of the helis, once you figure out who needs that one you’ll figure out how to get to Jupiter (the southern area)

In general, you need to ask around in CoP.

[wicked fjord]

Hehe

[wicked fjord]

Guy 1: Ill shoot you in the head
Guy 2: Ill shoot you in the lungs

[wicked fjord]

Guy 1 to the left: You can't stand there pretending to be a batch of grass.
Guy 2 to the right: B/tch, I'm like a shadow here!

[cyan valve]

kislyi_bill has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[frozen sun]

count rublegrubber Sidorovich

Sidorovich the trader

Sidorovich bald and sneaky, sly old rat

[native hazel]

Сидорович - Лисий хитрий торгашисько!

[raven jungle]

Anybody not have the trilogy anymore?

[wicked fjord]

Woah Tejas got JD Vance into SoC!

[grim tide]

Should I play Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat on Stalker or Veteran difficulty?

[native hazel]

Clear sky depends on how much of a glutton for punishment you are, CoP you can go for veteran

[grim tide]

I would say I don’t mind a challenge but nothing too hard.

[atomic plank]

You will hate CS if you will play it on veteran for the first time, especially the last few hours.

[molten nexus]

I have a question about playing on Xbox One. I recently purchased it on my main account and chose to install SoC from the trilogy by itself. I let the game install with hotspot but I can’t seem to get it started as it tells me I need to make it my home Xbox.

[idle forge]

Another patch fixing nothing

Cool

[frank tapir]

A week ago I wrote on tech support website about problems with Call of Pripyat and they fixed them so quickly, well done

[charred bloom]

Is trilogy fix

[cyan valve]

bigtonkka has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[forest sphinx]

Can soc ee get an Xbox fix already???? Its been like over a month and I still can’t get passed the press any button to continue menu. I can’t even get a refund which is the worse part.

[night pine]

I think I know what is the problem. Your settings may have been changed to keyboard and mouse instead of controller. This happened to me with Clear Sky and I had to plug in a usb mouse and then changed the setting in the options menu back to controller, saved the settings and it has worked fine.

[forest sphinx]

I’ll try it later

[loud mountain]

I still don't have an answer for whether or not it'll receive a Switch 2 upgrade.

So I wouldn't bet on you getting updates or answers either. The EE project is dead lol.

[zenith pendant]

I datamined the new EE patches for changes not mentioned in the changelog:

• Removed Main Menu ads.
• Updated EULA.
• Fixed Ukrainian texts not having uppercase "i" properly displaying with Graffiti font.
• Fixed Polish texts calling Kora-919 a Kora-920 (pre-LotZ it was a CoP-only thing, then LotZ and EE copied CoP changes into CS & SoC for polish loc, now they finally reversed it to be consistent with original text).
• Fixed CoP bars displaying wrong.
• Fixed SoC not properly putting crash logs into .log file when asserting.
• Made FSR not compatible with some AA options.

[zenith pendant]

it's not dead but it feels like there is one and a half people working on it lol

[lean haven]

game still renders in weird resolution while FSR being disabled

[charred bloom]

Ikr

[boreal agate]

Everyone's working on S2 and not EE it would seem

[zenith pendant]

EE is outsourced anyway it’s not limited by GSC’s capability

[boreal agate]

True

[night pine]

It may take a long time but I do hope they release a switch 2 update for the trilogy. I would buy them again on another platform 😂

[storm eagle]

@zenith pendant since you're a veteran stalker, any explanation on why soc a life is so different compared to regular retail 1.0006 patch? Is it a bug/oversight? How did they do it

[cyan valve]

iska_mc_96167 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grim tide]

What armor I should use for the final areas in Clear Sky?

[silk crown]

Bulat

[native hazel]

Or exo, or SEVA, or CS armor

All valid choices

[boreal agate]

Up to personal preference but bulat is a fairly conservative pick given the high bullet resistance and how much gunfire you're gonna be put through

[grim tide]

What artifacts I should use with Bulat?

[boreal agate]

Id usually just take a -rad and +carry weight one but it's up to your play style really

[grim tide]

Alright, thanks.

[zenith pendant]

Depends on what you mean by different. They tried to fix a few errors which changed camps and made NPCs go where they don’t go, for example.

That’s the reason Vampire goes to Cordon and Leshiy is always at Barrier.

[calm shadow]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/fps/good-guy-gsc-wordlessly-deletes-ads-in-stalker-remaster-menus-with-itsy-bitsy-new-patch/

[grim tide]

I’ve finished S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky.

I’ll be playing Call of Pripyat tomorrow.

What difficulty I should play Call of Pripyat on for a first playthrough?

[sullen saddle]

Master.

[zenith pendant]

Is pc gamer just going through Reddit and making posts of it

Modern journalism is a joke

[grim tide]

That’s very hard difficulty. This is my first time playing Call of Pripyat.

[sullen saddle]

Even in Master Call of Pripyat is too easy.

[eager viper]

Don't listen to them. Play on whatever you like.
I play on stalker.

[boreal agate]

Hey now, sometimes journalists go on Twitter and make posts about that instead

[zenith pendant]

Yeah lol but this is the third time I see PC gamer article about EE and it’s JUST a reddit thread (two times it’s been mine) and some random comments

[vague ridge]

@zenith pendantcan you annoy the stalker wiki guys to STOP using fan fiction for their articles?

[zenith pendant]

Which language branch

And btw by fanfiction do you mean stalker 2 or actual fanfiction

[vague ridge]

english, they called the ward a ISG continutation and mentioned anomaly

[strong wharf]

Ew

[zenith pendant]

I’ll reach out to billiam

[strong wharf]

They should be fired for such retarded work

[zenith pendant]

Unfortunately nobody wants to write wikis

I can tell as an ex mod, you have to tolerate even the worst people because nobody else is going to take their place

[vague ridge]

it was all done in a single day by a single guy lmao

[vague ridge]

wasnt there a proper stalker2.wiki?

[zenith pendant]

Yes there is, i don’t know if it has actual wiki pages written

I’ve only seen their interactive map

[vague ridge]

damn when I go there they tell me their server is offline, its the localhost

they still havent got that setup?

[zenith pendant]

Uhhh I checked a week ago and it worked

[vague ridge]

[shut panther]

Should be piece of cake. If you like to explore the map you can easily be OP. Why? Because stashes in Call of Pripyat are fixed.

You'll find random weapons and supplies everywhere.

[zenith pendant]

I always wondered how a hybrid approach would work. Like you can find stashes randomly but it’s mostly going to be junk, but whenever you have coordinates, you find actually cool loot.

So that both exploration is rewarded (like in CoP) but you can’t cheese the coolest stashes (like in SoC / CS)

S2 kinda went with the worst approach possible where it’s junk whether you have coordinates a lot (ignoring pre-placed loot, just talking about stashes here)

[shut panther]

Filled to the brim with medkits.

You'll never run out of them in S2, thats for sure.

[zenith pendant]

Yeah that’s another issue

[shut panther]

Oh shit I accidentally joined Monolith in stalker Team Lite.

Such is the will, of the Monolith...

[harsh cove]

you're about to get brainwashed, my guy

[strong wharf]

Joined the peak faction

[shut panther]

Tbh I already know Team Lite changed some stuffs to the living legend storyline. I just found out something new. Basically I turned off the brain scorcher and noticed that I can turn it on again. Saved the game then turned it on again.

joined Monolith

All the Monolithians that spawned after I turned off Brain Scorcher turned friendly.

Damn this peak lmao

[wicked fjord]

Funk you, manski, you didn't tell me I posted in the UA LOTZ channel boe @strong wharf

I didn't even notice. Lmao.

[strong wharf]

Ayo wait fr ? I didn't notice either lol

[ashen kiln]

Is it bad that I’m playing radiophobia instead of soc for my first time playthrough

I do have soc and I played up to getting streloks hard drive but stopped

And now I’m way past it and so far enjoying the mod

[zenith pendant]

Yeah

That’s like getting counter strike 2 when you wanted to play half life

[ashen kiln]

yeah but radiophobia is cool

[zenith pendant]

No it isn’t

[ashen kiln]

i just dont enjoy older games i think theyre revolutionary and have a good story but when i try to enjoy them i cant, its not even that they're hard i can handle that

but like cool guns, outfits, the whole shebang

[young olive]

Nah play what you want don’t listen to these nerds

[ashen kiln]

thanks man you get it

[idle forge]

I always play through og game as developers intended, so you can see their vison

If it's really that bad (most cases it isn't) I slap on some graphics mods and that is it

[strong wharf]

how are you a nerd for saying you should play the actual game first instead of a mod that changes the vision of the devs lol thats retarded

[vague ridge]

Yes, especially since Radiophobia sucks

[young olive]

cool man but let people play what game they want to😂 😂 😂 it’s like you guys are getting some form of orgasm from policing people from playing modded versions

[strong wharf]

When did I say not to

Saying should and must are not the same thing

[young olive]

what i meant was there is always somebody looking down upon you for discussing modded versions

[vague ridge]

I dont see based assaulting a man and breaking the windows of his house for being a filthy radiophobia 3 player

how are you going to force someone to NOT play smth on the internet?

[young olive]

did you not see what i sent after

look at you hurling insults at somebody who plays mods

stalker elitism

[vague ridge]

how mean, if only there was something to do, ho right

[young olive]

this is a well structured reply

[young olive]

genuinely unintelligible

[zenith pendant]

there are good mods

[vague ridge]

damn, the man has a thin skin AND cant read?
god has given you a heavy toll on life

[zenith pendant]

and there are crappy overhaul-wannabees that aim to "modernize soc"

[strong wharf]

Ogse and ogsr (pre gunslinger) are pretty good imo

[young olive]

ragebait

[vague ridge]

youre still taking em brother

[young olive]

also ragebait nice try buddy

[vague ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/javier-bardem-anton-got-it-think-about-it-ok-gif-17428218

[pine igloo]

Exported 371 standard messages to messages_history.csv

[wicked fjord]

Damn what they doin?

Someone bouta be exposed any day now

[ashen kiln]

Looks like I started a argument oops

I’m confused I haven’t seen like any other mods that do what radiophobia does it’s the only soc mod pack I’ve seen

[lunar seal]

it's not recommended to play the game with mods in the first experience

or you will basically be one of these brainless dudes who think that soc have freeplay after the end, or think that stuff that only shows up in mods exists in the original games

[ashen kiln]

Yeah I’m trying to look out for that, I don’t wanna end up like someone who thinks that way

Maybe I’ll actually play the original game, I have a copy from steam I just can never get into older games for some reason

(Although it’s not as old as half life which is 1998 so not even that old)

[lunar seal]

half life 1 is not that bad

[ashen kiln]

It isn’t it’s not that I have a problem with it I just for some reason didn’t get super close to it

[lunar seal]

it's because you don't got used to the graphical setting yet

after playing for some time you get used to it

[ashen kiln]

I love the story and I can deal with the difficulty so tbh I don’t know why I dropped it

[lunar seal]

when i played half life 1 for the first 3 months ago i din't have much problems

but when i tried something like daggerfall i just 💀

[ashen kiln]

Im trying not to make it sound like I think old games graphics are bad they’re revolutionary for their time

[lunar seal]

the controls are just to painful to use

[ashen kiln]

Yeah maybe

[winter bear]

Silly ol daggerfall

Not bugged at all

[strong wharf]

Thankfully daggerfall unity is completed now the OG is bad

[vague ridge]

you have never gone on moddb before?

[strong wharf]

moddb, AP-Pro, VK solid sites also there is the C-Con spreadsheet

[lunar seal]

prosectors project, autumn aurora 2.1, ogse, ogsr legacy, ogsr ga, soc ga, etc

they are not really vanilla but does the same thing as radiophobia 3

[vague ridge]

Radio3 isnt exactly vanilla either so they stay squarely on the same platform

down to most of em being based on OGSE

🫡

[ashen kiln]

I have but only for specific mods

[vague ridge]

scrolling down the stalker tag and SOC category you can see various examples of full overhaul mods to even completely new games on SOC, quite common

[ashen kiln]

nice

[lethal bronze]

I bought the EH so could someone rank A life for the games? I heard that SoC was the worst one

[sullen saddle]

SoC has the "worst" online A-Life in the trilogy and has the best offline A-Life of the Trilogy.
Clear Sky has the "most limited" A-Life, which also it's the most ambitious A-Life of the Trilogy, the online A-Life is too good.
CoP A-Life is meh/ok.

[boreal agate]

In general they have a lot more potential than actual impact on the game

[zenith pendant]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots

Or #🔩┃trilogy_modifications , either way this is not a LotZ pic :)

[calm shadow]

Happy now?

[zenith pendant]

Cloaer, but that’s OG SoC, not LotZ! :))

[calm shadow]

They're all from the same trilogy universe.
I didn't know you felt entitled to order people around.

[zenith pendant]

Nah I’m minimodding for craps and giggles. But this channel is for LotZ specifically, as there already is a general trilogy channel.

[calm shadow]

\

[gilded bear]

Dear team, I have a question. I completed the trilogy on PS4 with all trophies. If I now transfer my saves from the PS4 version to the new PS5 version, will it automatically unlock the cross-trophies, or is a full replay required?

[zenith pendant]

There is progress_data.ltx stored among saves on PC, so there is local storage of game's achievement progress if that's of any consolation.

So I say your chances are pretty good that it will. Unless Mataboo/FL specifically coded the game to transfer just the saves and not the progress data.

[gilded bear]

Thanks for the answer

[bitter obsidian]

I tried now and yes, I was able to transfer my PS4 data to my PS5 and autounlock the trophies. I don't have my platinum save anymore, but I got the trophies of my recent rerun

Now that I notice, some trophies I autounlocked don't seem to be from my latest run. Still, if You have platinum trophy, it should pop, or at least game will require You to play last section to unlock ending trophy and then make platinum pop

[gilded bear]

Thanks😊

[bitter obsidian]

No problem👍

[cyan valve]

chezet.​gg has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith pendant]

@proud badge there are lots of EE-new bugs that were not present in original releases, not just the one you mentioned. A quick list off the top of my head:

• The sound occlusion is totally broken. You hear arena fight sounds when you’re walking through Bar. OG correctly set up areas where sounds should be cut off, that feature is just broken in EE.
• You are unable to do long grenade throws because pressing RMB also just throws it instantly.
• In all three games, dropping the selected item in the inventory through the hotkey will drop your weapon as well.
• Many NPCs have wrong destinations such as Leshiy ending up on Barrier instead of guarding the freedom base.
• The bolt and knife animations are playing with incorrect speeds. Affects only Shadow of Chornobyl.
• In SoC, the icons near protection and restoration types do not display.
• In SoC, the compass icon displays incorrectly, being stretched.
• NPCs no longer shoot in bursts in SoC, which results in them emptying the entire mag back-to-back before reloading, including if they’re using sniper rifles.
• In CS, all guides can lead to the same point they’re currently positioned on.
• The same stash in Clear Sky can be repurchased an infinite amount of times, which leads to the player acquiring additional copies of quest items that cannot be given to mechanics.
• Some stash coordinates are only available for purchase after save reload (CS).
• NPCs will give you stash markers to the stashes you already received.
• You can exit any dialogue with a gamepad, including those where you are scripted not to be able to, which leads to softlocks if you happen to press Start at the wrong time.
• Test quests without rewards can occasionally be given by squad commanders.
• Completing Lefty’s quest as a bandit and then leaving Yantar will result in all loners ignoring your attacks.
• In CS, you can get softlocked on Red Forest bridge if Lebedev doesn’t talk to Leshiy as you will not be able to progress to Lymansk.
• In CS, during the quest to kill psy dog you are not going to have any main quest at all.
• In CoP, the bars for weapon values on inventory hover display incorrectly, being horizontally stretched and blurred.
• In CoP, attacking Skadovsk during “Finding Magpie” quest will fail it.

And let's be honest, the edition is not getting fixed after just those three issues getting addressed. There's a whole layer of gameplay downgrades. It will take months at best.

[proud badge]

I’m aware of most of these bugs, and I know even more. The thing is, this re-release was developed by the Poles. They don’t understand why they changed a bunch of aspects of the game, breaking or adding things that shouldn’t be there. The only things the trilogy needed were new graphics, optimization, full Ukrainian and English localization, bug fixes, and the addition of simple features that don’t heavily impact gameplay—like changing the localization in the game, not just in the Steam menu.

@zenith pendant

Also, there was no need to create the "SR" currency; they should have made the currency dynamic, depending on the language. The game should be adapted to the player, not the other way around.

[zenith pendant]

I do not care about SR that much (but it does sound weird in the dialogues where they use the abbreviation now), what bothers me is mostly HUD downgrades, new bugs and controverisal gameplay edits. With currency I am surprised they did not just use hryvnias which would make more sense if they are already changing the currency. The whole "lore" part of why the Zone uses soviet rubles was gone by release anyway.

Anyway, the EE is a mess and I think everyone agrees on that. But they're within their power to make it better and they already did make some good changes (even if those are coming really slowly). I especially appreciated main menu ads being gone.

[proud badge]

I don't know why they didn't do it, maybe they didn't want arguments about "Stalker being a russian game" (though that's not true).

[proud badge]

First and foremost, they need to fix the bugs. Though there are so many of them, it might actually be easier to take the modified engine they made and start the remaster from scratch.

[zenith pendant]

I agree the bugs are important, but if the same issues existed in OG it doesn't bother me much. What does bother me is when EE is worse in some areas. It doesn't need to be perfect, but it needs to not have downgrades, so fixing bugs that appeared in EE specifically is really important.

[proud badge]

yep

[zenith pendant]

and I know even more
By the way, purely out of personal interest, which other new issues coming from EE are you aware of that I didn't list?

[proud badge]

wait

[lean haven]

^

People described it as Blur/Soap and EE devs decided to disable DoF and enable sharpening by default as a solution

[zenith pendant]

It's still worse than OG even with FSR enabled.

[lean haven]

Maybe because vanilla games work good enough without any upscalers

and the FSR implementation seems to be broken

[zenith pendant]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

here's a comparison between all EE settings and OG. OG still looks sharp af.

[lean haven]

yeah that's my point

EE definetly doesn't render at native resolution

[zenith pendant]

still waiting :)

[proud badge]

yes, i fogot?

my english skill = c++ skill = 0%

[idle forge]

Cinema

[zenith pendant]

You can PM me in Ukrainian if it's convenient for you, I'd just like to hear what I missed.

[proud badge]

ok

[harsh cove]

Is there secret meeting happein? @zenith pendant

[zenith pendant]

yes sorry its only for the cool boyz

[harsh cove]

Oh ok because I'm woman™

[viscid summit]

Women are real?

[zenith pendant]

In trilogy, they are mentioned-only

[bleak oar]

For some reason, NPCs in CS EE kept asking for an SGI

[placid field]

no the person is gaslighting

[zenith pendant]

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

Bug introduced with new patch, devs enabled test quests for whatever reason. Do not take that quest, you get no reward for it anyway.

[bleak oar]

Welp, looks like I'll wait for the next patch then. I'll play COP EE for achievements for the meantime then.

Thanks for the heads up

The commander's pda got a reward, i did try it once, lol

[zenith pendant]

Yeah that one has a reward but it’s bugged in a different way, return item quests are meant to be requesting a unique item and be completed once, since this one is repeatable it prevents others from being taken.

[weak stone]

Question. I've played the original trilogy ages ago, and lastbyear I enjoyed Gamma.
Now Inread that with the release of EE, the Xengine had a rather big update: 64bit, dx12 and multicore support. Is it noticeable and would something like Gamma benefit from the EE engine update? Sorry if asked before, I'm early and late te the game, lol.

[idle forge]

Gamma already uses superior engine

[zenith pendant]

EE engine is closed source. You cannot modify it, and thus cannot use it in large mods.

That said, the engine used in standalone mods is most likely already x64 and multithreaded.

[vague ridge]

Anomaly is really bad for modding Im not gonna lie

[idle forge]

Seems to easy and acessible with with that engine. People made amazing stuff

[weak stone]

Aha. Thank you for the response.

[chrome bridge]

Enhanced looking blurry

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil did you return demo_set_cam_position too?

[eager fossil]

Asking the team

[zenith pendant]

Just checked, it's in CS and CoP but not SoC. This is the same behaviour as OG.

Is there a chance you can bring it to SoC too? Because normally, in SoC you would use rs_stats 1 for checking where you camera is, but in EE it's not working properly. So having a demo_set_cam_position backported would help immensely.

[eager fossil]

not sure yet, will get it for our suggestions board

[hasty kayak]

w update

[lament ruin]

Haven't tried to look in yet, how is it?

[hasty kayak]

didn't play yet. Lemme check

[hasty kayak]

a lil bit better

[lean haven]

they have fixed low resolution issue, finally

[zenith pendant]

from a little datamining, stuff not in the changelog:

• Removed test quests that appeared in 1.1.1. Now they are no longer given by any squad.
• Fixed CS-1 and CS-3a item names being swapped in localizations other than RU/UA (introduced new issue where descriptions are now swapped, see #📸┃trilogy-screenshots message)
• Fixed Ghost recording in English in SoC repeating the last line twice.
• Fixed AS-96/2 16:9 alignment issues.

@eager fossil are shader sources going to be updated? They're still from patch 1.1, which means any mod modifying the shader will recompile those without the additions of the latest patch.

[lament ruin]

Is Sidorovich's face still a massive polygon?

[zenith pendant]

yep

[lament ruin]

Why he is the one cursed to look like that escapes me

[lament ruin]

Like I have checked the other games as well and he's literally the only one (in SoC at least) that looks like I could cut things with his face

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil some demo-related issues:

Stability:

1. (EE-specific bug) Map image creation (activates with F11) works fine in CS & CoP, but **crashes the game **in SoC.
2. (OG bug) Trying to use demo_record while in main menu crashes the game.
3. (OG bug) Trying to use demo_record while in pause menu softlocks the game as you are unable to both quit pause and quit demo_record.

Missing functionality:

1. (EE-specific bug) Cubemap creation (activates with Backspace) is broken. In original games, it worked fine on DX9 but did not work on DX10 and DX11. Since the EE only supports DX12, it's now never working correctly. The screenshots are just not created.
2. (EE-specific bug) The hint showing the control for the demo_record and current keyframe count is never displayed. In OG SoC, it used to display when you enable the command, while in OG CS & CoP it used to display when you pressed F1. In EE it never displays, in any of the games, in either scenario. My guess is that something in general is broken with ANY debug text drawn on the screen, as similar commands (rs_stats 1, rs_cam_pos 1) do not display anything as well in EE.
3. (EE-specific bug) No information about the commands usage (such as FPS stats after demo_play). This is general EE bug with ALL console commands, it doesn't affect just demo_record.

Other:

1. (OG bug) In frozen camera mod (activated with num pad *) the keyboard controls are returned, but the mouse controls are not. This means you cannot shoot/aim unless you rebind the keys.
2. (OG bug) In frozen camera mod (activated with num pad *), jumping works inconsistently. Sometimes you are able to jump once but not again.
3. (OG bug) The UI hiding during screenshot when pressing F12 is inconsistent - it works only sometimes.
4. (EE-specific bug) Trying to play a demo with 0 keyframes (via making a demo without pressing space once, and then playing it) makes the screen flash. In OG, it just displayed blackscreen for half a second. Either return that behaviour or make it do nothing at all, flashing is absolutely a bug.

Also those are not bugs, but it would be nice to backport CS/CoP demo_record features back to SoC, such as the hint showing only when F1 is pressed instead of at all times, the entire camera freeze functionality, high-quality map creation with Ctrl+F11, and demo_set_cam_position command.

[cyan valve]

artem_20202030 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[onyx night]

Wow, looks like FXAA is much better than MLAA huh? or is it just for me with my resolution/screen size?

[eager fossil]

thank you, sharing it with the team

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil I noticed that in patch 1.2 you reversed the EE weapon inertia changes, but only for three weapons and only in CoP. Was it done accidentally or do you intend to reverse them on other weapons as well?

If you're not aware of what I am talking about, control_inertion_factor has been set to 1.0 in EE, which means that all weapons now rotate the same, no "heavier" weapons exist any longer and the entire mechanic of weapon handling is basically mostly gone.

In 1.2, you set control_inertion_factor of three weapons in CoP back to their pre-EE values: those are AKM-74/2, Obokan and SA Avalanche. All other weapons in CoP as well as any weapons in SoC/CS are unaffected.

Coincidentally, those are the three weapons with adjusted 16:9 position. So if this was a fix borrowed from some mod made for OG games, the changes may be accidental.

Or you started bringing back OG mechanics but have only done it for three weapons in one game... for some reason?

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil bump:

weapon inertia changes #legends-of-the-zone message

shader sources outdated #legends-of-the-zone message

Pls answer

[eager fossil]

haha, asking about this one

[wicked fjord]

SurDno going full Inspector Gadget mode today

[strong wharf]

Surdno goated

[idle forge]

True Stalker

[zenith pendant]

did you get a reply?

[bleak oar]

Were the gun quests in Clear Sky got fixed now in patch 1.2?

This stuff prevented me on getting unique gun related quests in CS atm, so can't complete the achievements

[lunar seal]

it's fixed

[silk crown]

Does anyone know how to fix the gun guests i cant get the trophy akm or tank machine gun because nobody gives me the guests and when i ask them how can i help you every single npc always says you cant and i have updated and restarted new game multiple times CS

[zenith pendant]

Have you completed all the quests of that type on previous levels?

If you have them offered eg on swamps you won’t receive them on cordon.

[silk crown]

Yes i have done them and even then every npc only offers capture base mission or retrieve bandages and food

[bleak oar]

Man the stash achievement for COP EE will make Sidorovich gain muscle and lose fat

Very tedious, lmao

[bleak oar]

Hoho 100% done.

[winter bear]

CHEEKI BREEKI

[bleak oar]

SGI gun tasks still here, and none of the unique gun fetch quests.

[hollow stirrup]

Anyone still having stuttering in settlements/high density areas? Rostok throttles my frames like a mf

[bleak oar]

Right, so apparently you have to restart. Old saves will remain broken

[bleak oar]

That's weird, i don't see the unique quests for a special army medkit and personal echo detector

[zenith pendant]

If you play on a game from previous patch, the squads that already got those quests (eg by you asking them) will retain them.

No new squads will get those quests, and obviously new game fixes it completely.

[wicked fjord]

DAY 52 SINCE STALKER LOST ITS DIRECTX9/10 SOUL

Holy shit we're nearing 2 months, @strong wharf

[bleak oar]

Yeah i restarted the game yesterday, so it's all good now

[zenith pendant]

[wicked fjord]

He still asking?

[zenith pendant]

weekends + sick leave: #📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

[grim rose]

Is the Freedom and Duty faction war bugged in Clear Sky EE?

Or I have to wait for hours until the faction I sided with decided to attack?

[eager fossil]

We consider different options for camera inertia; specifically, on PC, it will most likely be restored.

[harsh cove]

I mean, sometimes I have woman day off days

ya know

[strong wharf]

Thats INSANE lol

[zenith pendant]

Thanks, it’s a quite big gameplay downgrade right now.

There are upgrades that affect it too, in original release they served as a way to minimize the effect on weapons that have it too bad, in EE it makes those weapons move even faster.

Why not restore it as well on consoles? LotZ existed for over a year and I haven’t seen anyone complaining. It’s a big mechanic, without it all weapons have the same handling stat in CS.

[wicked fjord]

in...sane... I'm not sure if it's in or out of our sane(ity)

[cyan valve]

1nazzy1 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[grim tide]

What’s the best armor in Call of Pripyat that support carrying three or four artifacts? Planning to use anti-radiation artifact, health artifact, weight arrifact, bleeding resistance artifact and/or endurance artifact.

Anyone can help me?

[zenith pendant]

SEVA is always a good choice if you are leaning into an artifact heavy playthrough

[grim tide]

Well, this is my first playthrough of Call of Pripyat and I’m playing on veteran. Also I’m still in the Zaton area.

[zenith pendant]

You will get access to SEVA later down the story line.

[grim tide]

Alright. Should I use SEVA or Exoskeleton for my first playthrough of Call of Pripyat?

[zenith pendant]

There is no definite answer on which weapon or suit is the best, it all comes down to your playstyle.

[grim tide]

I guess I want both anomaly and combat protection while being able to carry a bit more weight.

[nimble cedar]

I'd say Exoskeleton if you plan to take on enemies head-on and shoot your way out of most encounters. Do note the Exoskeleton can only be fully upgraded and get the sprinting ability after you get to Pripyat.

It has decent anomaly protection and can have 4 artifact slots once fully upgraded.

[grim rose]

How long do I have to wait for my faction to attack a point in Clear Sky?

I have 2 of the target areas cleared and none of the duty squads are targetting the area

[zenith pendant]

There are some bugs leftover which results in the faction never coming.

A good habit is to only attack when you see a squad already moving to that point instead of clearing the point by yourself.

[grim rose]

I knew it!

[zenith pendant]

Unfortunately.

This game had hundreds of issues before EE and now it’s even more :))

[idle forge]

🤫

[proud badge]

In faction war, everything works fine, but there are "problems": NPCs who go to a point to capture it leave their base, they go in real time through a-life, but while they are going they may encounter enemies, mutants, anomalies, and the path itself is long.

[grim rose]

Well the issue I'm having is that none of the Duty squads are targetting the area needed for faction war.

There are plenty of Duty squads on unimportant areas near it and none of them are going to the target area in Garbage.

[proud badge]

Units that go to a point leave from the base, random units are not involved in this, they have their own smart, but if a unit does not have its own smart, they will go there to occupy it

smart - smart terrain

[grim rose]

So I have to wait until a new squad spawns?

Because all of them are in smart terrains

[idle forge]

Save and reload, this would help in og

Faction Wars are broken, sometimes no squad is assigned to take the point or are stuck in some smart terrain.
Save and load might help

[lime wraith]

Why not both
I usually rush the SEVA, fully upgrade it, and when reaching the endgame (let’s call it “the last map”, to not spoil you), I go for the exoskeleton

You’ll get a lot of cash throughout your game, no worries regarding being able to afford both

It’s been a while but my usual path was random armor until I can catch a “blue and white one” (trying hard not to spoil you lol), which will carry me until I’m rich enough to get the SEVA and upgrade it, and then I go for the exoskeleton for the last stretch

[outer lion]

this is the way

its true u make a crap ton amount of money in cop

[lime wraith]

Clear Sky was harder in my memories money wise too
About to finish a EE playthrough, collecting all achievements along the path, I’m about to manage friendship with everyone except renegades, I keep backstabbing Duty and Freedom over and over again, the loot is crazy … and rep is building up gently, one last backstab and I’m good, 5 factions out of 5 lol

[outer lion]

it was harder

only real way to get nice equipment was to join duty and shit on freedom

i remember going on killing sprees all throughout freedom territories while hauling around dead bodies filled to the brim with equipment

[idle forge]

It was pretty easy to get rich. Just do quests for faction memebers and gain rep, sell arties, in no time you could have high end armor and fully upgraded vintar

[lime wraith]

I just completed a playthough in CS
it's been ... a decade ? 😅 thanks to EE.
you kinda stagnate between broke and super-rich and then broke again because of how expensive stuff can be
selling flash drives to technicians and artefacts to Sakharov brings tons of money, and if you can endure the walk, selling guns and ammo at Clear Sky base is a gift from the zone

#📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

Clear Sky has always been my favorite ..

[wintry drum]

I might need help, I sold the oakpine kolobok, and Ik I cant get it back, now Im at pripyat without garry, is it posible to finish the game?

I wanna know so I dont waste my time in a screwed up run

Im playing on ps5 but Im using mouse and keyboard

[shut panther]

You'll eventually go back to Zaton from Pripyat. Just need to do some quests first. You can go to Jupiter as well.

Kolobok isn't a unique artifact so I think it'll spawn again in chemical anomalies. There's 1 near the scientist bunker in Jupiter.

[wintry drum]

where exactly?

I felt like the man who sold the world

[shut panther]

Show me Jupiter map or you could just sleep until emission occurs then go back to Oakpine anomaly hoping the artifact will spawn again.

[wintry drum]

It doesnt spawn again there

[shut panther]

It doesnt guarantee to spawn when an Emission occured.

[shut panther]

Its right beside the main road iirc

[wintry drum]

lemme dm the map

[zenith pendant]

Have you completed scientist storyline? It results in you ||getting info about artifact spawns in Jupiter.||

[zenith pendant]

Just sleep through a few days.

[shut panther]

Oh that simply tells you whether an artifact spawns or not. But yeah that should be useful.

[wintry drum]

yeah, I completed all scientist storylines

[zenith pendant]

It saves a trip in case nothing spawned.

[wintry drum]

so its where the weird plant was

[shut panther]

Then sleep until an emission occured then asks Herman or Ozersky if an artifact spawns or not.

[wintry drum]

ok

thx guys, Imma load a save

[zenith pendant]

It can have up to three Koloboks, each with 16.67% chance to spawn.

[wintry drum]

damn, thats tight

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil any news on whether the 1.2 updated shader sources coming?

[eager fossil]

not sure yet

[zealous hare]

Will there be switch 2 update ?

[night pine]

I want this very much. I have these games on PC and Xbox and I’ll be ready to buy again 🤣

[loud mountain]

I asked this question in #📜┃ask-gsc like 5 times, without a reply.

[wicked fjord]

DAY 64 SINCE STALKER RECEIVED MOTION BLUR OPTION NOBODY EVER NEEDED IN LIFE

[idle forge]

[zenith pendant]

Optional motion blur should be the least of your worries

[night pine]

The problem is that only a very small number of switch 2 dev kits have been sent to the various studios. GSC is not answering most probably because they are still waiting for the hardware. There are many studios still waiting and they cannot even start working on updates until they receive the hardware. Nintendo has been very frustrating as usual😂

[loud mountain]

Then they're free to provide this as an answer. There's no reason for being silent.

[zenith pendant]

GSC are well known for not disclosing anything ahead of time if they’re not 100% set on delivering it

Which is why emoji exists. Before the current iteration of #📜┃ask-gsc there was an open channel for questions

That one was insanely funny. Just hundreds of questions and all answered with “NDA”, “can’t answer, NDA”, “that’s NDA”.

And those were like VERY timid questions, not spoilery territory at all.

One I remember is “can you do long bolt throws” or something like that

And the answer is, of course, NDA. I can imagine a clause in the contract saying “cannot disclose to the fans whether long bolt throws are in the game”.

It’s much better now that they ignore questions. At least you don’t have to sort through hundreds of non-answers.

[loud mountain]

Frankly sounds like a cop out.

[zenith pendant]

Eh, the channel is mainly for clarifications on something they already announced, patch dates and tech support. Everything else is something they will do a post for, not announce indirectly through answering someone’s question. It makes sense.

[golden ridge]

Not quite accurate tho

I mean, Mol1t sometimes is able to share some stuff from time to time as we saw in that channel.

[zenith pendant]

Which is why I said mainly for, there were rare exceptions but I wouldn’t count on them coming out on a regular basis.

And a question about a potentially upcoming release not being answered is normal.

[golden ridge]

We can both agree on that

Tho, I think we will may see some juicy news soon

[zenith pendant]

omg ee multiplayer release is confirmed

[golden ridge]

not that juice

haha who knows really.

[zenith pendant]

I know, I’ve seen the code it’s not happening haha

[zenith pendant]

It seems like they decided to ditch it VERY early on, multiplayer UI doesn’t even have gamepad support, so it was never even in the plans.

The amount of work to actually bring it back is insane, as much as I would like that.

[golden ridge]

Didn't mean the MP I heard about the code thing recently.

Well, honestly, I would love to see it sorted out, but I don't think it'll be anytime soon considering priority fixes dedicated to SP as it's state is already known to be needing quite the work.

I don't think it'll be dropped, but mostly postponed for when most is sorted out. Well, at least I hope

[zenith pendant]

You’re a lot more optimistic than i am it seems lol.

[umbral surge]

Hi, I have problem with Detectortive achievement (Find at least one artifact with the help of each detector). Even after trying few times in different locations i still cant complete this achievement, any clues why it isnt counted already ?

[zenith pendant]

Which detectors have you tried?

[umbral surge]

every, like i just bought every one of them, then just take one of them, left the rest in chest, than go to one anomaly and take artifact.

i repeat the process for every detector ofc chagining anomaly

[zenith pendant]

All of them = could you list them? There is one that's not accessible until later into the game.

If you only tried three, yes, you're missing one.

[umbral surge]

No i tried all four

[zenith pendant]

In this case I am not sure, I have checked the code for that achievement and it all seems correct.

Don’t see any flaws in the logic.

[umbral surge]

It's weird I even tried to install game once more but nothing helps

but thanks anyways

[whole gulch]

afk suport

[wicked fjord]

Call for Korshunovlance

[cyan valve]

soulxcalibur7 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cyan valve]

soulxcalibur7 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith pendant]

EE 1.3 postponed?

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil any new estimates for the patch release?

[eager fossil]

moving to the next week

[native hazel]

How about estimates for when next week is?

[wicked fjord]

Too much heat, and its already August 1st - most hot of all hot months

We're... cooked. In the literal sense of the word.

[vague ridge]

you shouldve bought AC instead of a SSD

[wicked fjord]

Shit should I refund it?

Dawm, you shoulda have informed me earlier, boss of Portugalia... @vague ridge

[wicked fjord]

DAY 73 SINCE THE LIONS PAINTING IN ZATON WAS CENSORED!

[signal oak]

So i had call of pripyat on quick resume and now I can't start the game i physically can't start it. How do I fix this?

[shadow chasm]

what painting? 👀

[zenith pendant]

The cartoon characters on the walls of Izumrudne is Zaton and the Prypiat kindergarten were removed, part of large scale censorship in EE.

[strong wharf]

ive gotten called a shill so many times for being against this censorship its sad

[zenith pendant]

Lack of content actually showcasing changes side to side is the reason people heavily underestimate what has been changed.

[shadow chasm]

how is this censorship lol

[zenith pendant]

How would you call it? Going back to revise the very specific textures for a console release to remove all references to soviet iconography, symbols and cartoons does sound like censorship to me.

[strong wharf]

You ain't the sharpest tool in the box are you

[storm sentinel]

Fix controller aim assist like stalker 2 on trilogy Legends of the zone @eager fossil

[glad schooner]

Mol1t please check dm, important question

[zenith pendant]

Mol1t please have a great day

[wicked fjord]

Ikr ikr

[tawdry gorge]

@eager fossil A new patch for the trilogy just dropped. Any info on what it fixes?

[zenith pendant]

there's surprisingly little number of changes. It's more like a hotfix.

some engine changes, and in actual game files it only fixes this bug #📸┃trilogy-screenshots message

What engine changes do is impossible to track without a changelog, that one only mol1t will tell you

[zenith pendant]

@eager fossil can we get some official info on the micro-patch released on the 7th? Is that 1.2.1?

I’ve already gathered it fixes the AVALANCHE issue, does it do anything else in terms of engine changes?

[eager fossil]

it was a small technical update, nothing fancy

[valid pasture]

@eager fossil Is there any reason why the company cannot dedicate 1 sprint (2 weeks), 1.5 devs (1 to code, 0.5 to review) and 1 tester to implement most of the fixes from Zone Reclamation Project? This is such a low hanging fruit that would win back so many fans for the franchise and company, it's just silly to ignore it, especially after EE failures...

[proud badge]

new patch coming soon?

[strong wharf]

People would then complain gsc steals modders codes lol

Plus ZRP makes unnecessary changes that arent faithful to vanilla

[zenith pendant]

You can take the fixes AND credit who made them yk

People only complained about SSS because devs just took the code without pointing out that this was not done by them or putting a mention of SSS developers anywhere.

And yeah the porting of ZRP is a tough process, its codebase is a mess because it does lots of workarounds to support old saves even from versions pre-1.0006.

[strong wharf]

Ah true forgot about that

[strong wharf]

Would be interesting to see if they do something im curious about the future of EE you've done alot to help gsc already

[zenith pendant]

I still think they should have looked at the community patches (not just ZRP but many others that fixed other, different bugs) and analyzed them.

[strong wharf]

Fr they had years of community work to review and build from

[zenith pendant]

But this would take a bit over 2 weeks at 1.5 devs to do properly.

[valid pasture]

Ok, 2 sprints and 5-6 devs, 1 QA... It's still a very quick and straightforward goal that would benefit the game and company by a ton, bring a lot of people to the game, create a great media and reviews. I wouldn't mention it if there was absolutely no effort for the old games, but since they are continuing to work on EE - why not? It just feels sad for the game and the jank rep it has that overshadows the amazing things in it, but worse is when the studio doesn't care about that...

[valid pasture]

I'm not asking about porting the whole thing, on the contrary - picking the easiest fixes and checking if they could be adopted (not just blindly copied). Things like spawn points by campfires (NPCs dying as a result), quest bugs, broken event triggers, empty stashes, "bread", Prypyat stadium teleport, or like you've noted yourself - Freedom trader money limit, etc. These are very small, quick and specific tasks on their own and could be easily addressed... If there is a will.

[zenith pendant]

Prypiat stadium teleport is already fixed in EE.

Empty stashes is actually an engine an issue, and ZRP fixes it through a very nasty workaround. That's ok for a mod that cannot touch the engine, that's not ok for professional developers. GSC is aware of the issue as they said and are looking for a way to fix it.

"bread" and spawn points by campfires are, as far as I am concerned, all.spawn fixes, so they will break savegame compatibility. Unless you do it through another bunch of nasty workarounds like ZRP does.

But I agree that the fixes that can be done without workarounds and those that do not break savegame compatibility should be ported.

[valid pasture]

I don't think that issues that could break game saves shouldn't be made because of the above-mentioned consequence. At least those could be grouped and released together so that's a one time thing. A painful medicine, but then I doubt there are too many people that would be upset about it. Games are short and the positives from fixes will be way better than negative from lost saves.

[zenith pendant]

Some people have hundreds of hours in their saves. Losing those will be far more consequential than finding a few less dead bodies in campfires.

But that’s beside the point. Save-breaking fixes are very rare. GSC could still port 99% of other fixes from all the mods, engine forks, etc. that won’t break the saves.

[muted talon]

I don't care if I lose my saves after the patch. In long term perspective it will be better than leaving all these bugs for community to fix. I don't think Decane would bother to redo all his work for new SRP 2.0. Anyways, there a lot of bugs in configs for them to fix that don't require significant efforts to correct and test the results. They should start from this. I hope I reported enough bugs to make the next patch large-scale in terms of changes. If only the fixed at least half of the things I showed them.

[zenith pendant]

What did you report? Broken stashes?

I have made a huuuuuge report with all the console issues. Broken commands, broken scrolling, crashes, softlocks, all that kind of stuff. Haven't seen anything patched from the list, and it's been over 2 months now.

Sometimes I feel like tech support really only exists to advise people to turn it off and then back on again. Or act on issues that tens of thousands of people have.

[muted talon]

No, I think they know about that. Mostly mistakes in configs and scripts, and some gameplay bugs as well. Guess I'll make a list. They accept only one appeal at a time. Also they ask saves or vids if it's gameplay bug. Had to run from novice village to army warehouses to show them a bug with the counter of dutyers that restarts if you kill some dutyers, save and load. It's all pretty tiresome.

[zenith pendant]

Also they ask saves or vids if it's gameplay bug.
Oh yeah that's horrendous. I messaged support in May asking to be able to use subtitles. The feature IS already there, but it's hardcoded to your text language, so if you set it to anything other than English, Japanese, Korean or Chinese, you're not getting any subtitles. Even though the text is there.

It's a very simple feature request. Remove hardcoded language dependancy, add an extra checkbox in options to enable and disable subtitles if you want, regardless of which language you play on.

The response from support was asking for logs, dxdiag and save files... lmfao

[zenith pendant]

Was that foreshadowing?

[native hazel]

Maybe, but not intentional

[zenith pendant]

[native hazel]

Next has been put on indefinite hiatus

No end to this week in sight

[valid pasture]

Has it been 2 or 3 weeks since then?(

[native hazel]

no no, same week. It has just lasted 12 days

[zenith pendant]

1.3 is cooking to be good. :))

Even I can say that as a professional EE hater.

[lunar seal]

zrp sucks

[tawdry gorge]

Is there any information about the next patch? 👀

[fiery turret]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-scared-afraid-gif-15550732

x18 is so scary

[muted talon]

Here's the list of the bugs and typos i've reported so far:
SoC

1. Unfinished PSZ-7 armor on the roof of military barracks. Told them to take missing icons and description from build 2212, but i've doubt they will fix this armor, probably it will be removed.
2. "bread" in Dark Valley.
3. All blue crates at the bandit base being impossible to search.
4. guitar and hand_radio not having proper names and description. And icon, in the case of hand_radio.
5. Newbies sitting in hideouts even when merc attack is over.
6. Dutyers in DV having informational dialogue about Cordon. Some monolith npcs also have this dialogue, but they are hostile so it doesn't matter much. I doubt they are perfectionists, but who knows.
7. Possibility to join Freedom if player defends barrier first. Also money rewards in this case are different.
8. Broken Dead duty counter in army warehouses, that restarts when player kills Skull's dutyers with saving and loading between kills.
9. Monolith experts in exo not having ammo for main weapon in their profiles in character_desc_military.xml
10. Skinflint not having infinite money like other traders. They told me it's not bug, but feature, because his name is Skinflint, he doesn't like to spend money. I'm not joking.
11. One of autoquests on Cordon not working because of a typo in task_manager.ltx
12. One of the stash coordinates being impossible to get because of missing symbol "=" in treasure_escape.ltx
13. Prapor not paying Marked one for helping with boars even when in dialogue he says "here's your reward for helping us to deal with boars". - Didn't give them saves for this one, so they probably closed this request.
14. 5.45 and 5.56 AP rounds dealing same damage as standard rounds. Armor piercing in SoC works only in multiplayer, in single game AP rounds should just deal more damage, but in this case they do not.
15. SPAS-12 and Wincheaster barrels aiming higher than needed. Some ppl play without crosshairs.

[lunar seal]

number 2 is not a bug