☢┃stalker-general

[meager crag]

I mean, that's true

Actually showed in VC once

[charred nova]

I have only one car related thing in my room it’s a picture of a Miata

[raven sonnet]

Think you could play the bandit radio theme on the in game guitar?

[meager crag]

Dunno, try it I guess

[hardy totem]

Do it, upload it, rake in big money

[meager crag]

Fr

[hardy totem]

Stonks

[meager crag]

Just like Tankovic's Clear Sky tutorials

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[meager crag]

Full Bandit takeover video when?

[charred nova]

I want a sign that says “no piston no rods no cams no lifters and no valves beyond this point”

[meager crag]

If only it was really possible

Would've been based

[hardy totem]

Oof, maybe if I f8gure out how to take over freedom base...

[meager crag]

Yeah, that's the problem

The Freedom base

[hardy totem]

I'm working on another vid though

[meager crag]

Bandits don't take it

[meager crag]

Wat it B

[hardy totem]

How to fully uograde the SEVA suit you get as faction wars reward

[meager crag]

Oh

That one's easy tbf

But definitely useful

[errant fjord]

https://youtu.be/X8ICOMFUtEo?si=6nVL_ICY9MWip9Ke

[meager crag]

Wat dat B

[hardy totem]

Oh, how do you it?

[meager crag]

I usually just buy the stash locations from Vasyan

So basically as soon as possible

But you can buy them from Garin and Tooth as well

But Garin is Garin, so yeah

Tooth is the better alternative

[hardy totem]

You misunderstand. I mean the seva suit you get for defeating the bandits

[meager crag]

Ah, in that case, that's going to be a useful video

Because I haven't tried that

I believe Grey can do it, but I'm not 100% sure on that

[smoky hawk]

waow, this looks ass

[hardy totem]

I doubt it, but I will definitely check

[dusky pawn]

I was checking if there's a collector's edition for 2039 revealed yet and umm
Why are stalker and metro exodus collector's editions so ass lmao

Honestly idk which one is more disapointing

[meager crag]

Most collector's editions are usually mid

[dusky pawn]

Soo mid man

[meager crag]

Almost never worth the money

[dusky pawn]

Some dumbass statue and plastic crap

Tbh the statues ARE plastic crap

[meager crag]

Basically, yeah

[main jewel]

why not

[main jewel]

pov when old mw games gave you nvgs

[main jewel]

i deleted this messge a while ago why did it just pop up

[meager crag]

Why not

[proven hollow]

cause you can't hide from us lexa

[smoky hawk]

what wouldve you wanted to see?

[meager crag]

I remember seeing this sucker as a kiddo

[proven hollow]

we're in yer walls!

[meager crag]

I'm not sure what the price was, but the helmet alone is just based already

[dusky pawn]

Preferably something actually related to the game not some geeky epoxy statue and stickers/posters/cards

[smoky hawk]

I mean S2 had that artifact lamp that used wireless magnetic electricity

thats pretty cool

[frigid hill]

kirylow has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[meager crag]

Rip

[dusky pawn]

Right

[proven hollow]

kiry at it again scaring the children

[smoky hawk]

I think the worst part of the lamp was that it was too ambitious

[dusky pawn]

Kinda yes

The backpack is honestly ok since its a thing that kinda fits the vibe and is useful

[smoky hawk]

bc, those things lose to overheat and melt, bc its literally beaming magnetic force and electicity at the same time, and that requires a lot of heat

[dusky pawn]

Yes it melts

Mini induction plate

[robust pendant]

Dont make me drop a good mod daily and ping you everytime

While also daily posting every shit that grok has made or said

[smoky hawk]

a detector would be cool but I feel like if it didnt have like, an artifact to go along with it, itd be too little

[meager crag]

You should make a copy/paste fr

[robust pendant]

For fricking real

[dusky pawn]

I think backpack, detector with just some leds and an epoxy artifact would be within the budget and way better than all the random crap

Its basically the same as the statue and lamp just actually interesting for fans

Or the cartridge or even the necklace visiograph thing faust has

Literally anything remotely related to the game

[smoky hawk]

I think the statue and the lamp were plenty interesting for fans, especially the statuette

[gentle moss]

Uhh

[dusky pawn]

The lamp isnt related to any actual item in game or anything its just a chinesium object that glows
The statuette is just generic

BUT

Atleast it isnt as trash as the W3 anniversary kit

[smoky hawk]

the lamp resembles an actual item from ingame, it is the container that contains the shard of the monolith, its seen at SIIRCA
and as for the Statuette, its made just for the game, its p unique

[dusky pawn]

Peak of corpo slop 😂

[dusky pawn]

The concept of a statuette is insanely generic and its not even some recognisable stalker or anything
Ive never seen that container but ok ill believe you still its some obscure thing that you can glance over and the physical item itself is pretty useless since it melts

I still think faust's necklace would be a great idea

[smoky hawk]

ha you mean, the concept of the item, then yhea Id say the statuette isnt really good at that but I wouldnt say just bc its a generic idea that its bad, statuettes of that size that are painted and painted well can go for as much as the base game itself, especially if the molding is of high quality

making the statuette is a lot of actual work to do it well

[dusky pawn]

Im aware of the existence of WH40K so I know statuettes can be absurdly expensive

[meager crag]

Warhammer is overpriced as hell though

[dusky pawn]

But this one is just...meh

[meager crag]

The green makes it look cheap imo

[dusky pawn]

Ohh you dont say

[meager crag]

What material is the statue, anyways?

Plastic?

Resin?

[meager crag]

Yes, get Bolt Action or Konflikt '47 instead

BRUH IT'S RESIN

Of course it is

Lmfao

[dusky pawn]

I assume thats bad

[meager crag]

At least from what I've read

Does someone have the statue?

[astral otter]

What's your issue with resin?

That's more premium than plastic imo

[meager crag]

Depends, resin is cheaper technically, it's just really soft and bends easily

[dusky pawn]

Nah I already sink money into lego of all things
(Atleast its easy to resell)

[meager crag]

Kek

[astral otter]

Warhammer you don't sell, you build, paint and treasure for life

[meager crag]

And some resin molds come out bad as well, so there's always a risk

[meager crag]

Warhammer you don't buy

[astral otter]

I have heaps of resin 40k. And I love the detail over plastic

[dusky pawn]

I wouldnt even consider those eye sores

[meager crag]

I personally think plastic has more detail

[dusky pawn]

Gal marines somehow look more toyish than lego even as renders let alone figures

[meager crag]

But maybe you're more so talking about how the older models were factually cooler than the new slop they make

[astral otter]

It's not really debatable. Like resin uses flexible moulds so can have undercuts, ergo more detail

[dusky pawn]

And idk whats the appeal of the universe at all its just a comercial caleidoscope of stolen sci fi concepts with some edge

[astral otter]

That's exactly the appeal

[meager crag]

There's no appeal

Games Workshop killed it

There are way more wargames out there than just 40k

[dusky pawn]

So the appeal is just consumerism^2

[meager crag]

Basically

Games Workshop actively hate their community

[dusky pawn]

I do understand that but I dont exactly respect it

[meager crag]

Which is why I'm looking into Konflikt '47 instead

[astral otter]

But warhammer actually is a good hobby.

[meager crag]

The guys over at Warlord Games are way more in touch with their community, right their wrongs and explain reasons for their actions

[meager crag]

To play? Absolutely not

To collect? Way too expensive

For the lore? They're ruining that bit by bit

Flavor is cool tho

Best is to just stick in the past I guess

Kinda cynical, but it B wat it B

[dusky pawn]

...how

Why not just get into actual sci fi

The game system isnt actually very interesting from.what ive heard either

[meager crag]

Yeah

[dusky pawn]

I get the figure collecting thing but personally if I wanted something like that id do models of aircraft or something

[still edge]

is it just me or the universe bullsh1t is completely uninteresting and slop ?

[meager crag]

It's more so the figure collecting thing and playing, but the game is pretty bad now

[dusky pawn]

Its not just you

[meager crag]

Ever since the Era Indomitus, yeah

The Grey Knight lore for example

According to new lore, they actually attack other Space Marine chapters for new recruits

[still edge]

still the worst they ever done is putting woman space marines cant have any unique these days

[meager crag]

Bro, since 8th, there's been a Psychic Awakening

There are literally more Psykers than ever before

[still edge]

did they deleted that slop?

[meager crag]

Why do they need to fight Space Marines for recruits when there are more Psykers than before?

[meager crag]

Don't exist, even though GW contradicted themselves in that article

Typical

I guess you mean Femstodes instead?

[still edge]

good, they shouldnt exist, its like putting men in the matriarcal amazonian fantasy , its so retarded

[meager crag]

They've tried it before and I feel like they tried again in that new SM upgrade box, just that they're backpaddling and saying it's not true because then they wouldn't sell stuff anymore

Because GW is a business first and foremost

One with a political message, sure, but their main goal is money

As can be seen with the game itself as well

As soon as something new gets released, they make them really overpowered to sell more of them

[still edge]

luckily and surpringly people in general are pushing against any changes of established fantasies

[meager crag]

40k has a real power creep problem

[meager crag]

Not enough tbf

Just look at 40k and Star Wars

[still edge]

so its kind of hard right now to throw some weird political agenda in fantasy stories

[still edge]

not completely but at least im surprise people are pushing against , maybe there is hope

[meager crag]

Aye

There are more people searching for alternatives than ever before, from what I've heard

[still edge]

well star wars is starting to go back , one of the executive said there is a high posibility of deleting the last trilogy (that never existed cough cough)

[meager crag]

They said that years ago though

[still edge]

even young people are saying "star wars was 1-6 anything else is slop lol "

[meager crag]

I want them to stick to their trash, not make the original stuff worse

[meager crag]

Of course, there's also the sequel books made before Disney created a trashfire

[still edge]

what are they called?

[meager crag]

Someone recently actually released a fanmade movie

https://youtu.be/RN9msMF_psk?si=mcq6nUdDI13D0T1b

It's a bit cheap in quality, but pretty nice

[still edge]

that looks like a ps2 game , i never heard of it

and the portrait of that movie looks like cheeks wtf

but it can be as bad as the life day movie

[old aurora]

Please tell me some

[visual mortar]

hello, User

[robust pendant]

If you give me like 2 hours (need to arrive home first), I can gladly tell

[old aurora]

Np

[visual mortar]

Np standa for nice paraphernalia

[dusky pawn]

Ofc it doesnt but thats what the loony from that meme was reffering to the gonadotoxic effect basically

And yeah this

But I can why lucilla larvae would do that since it will defo cause neurological signs

Reminds me of oestrus ovis

[main jewel]

cird

[proven hollow]

so, we've talked about beer and drinks, we've talked about toads, we've talked about lexa's simping, and we've talked about warhammer, what's next?

[proven hollow]

stalker?

[visual mortar]

cabbit

bat

ritty

[main jewel]

have you seen the cird video

search up cird

[visual mortar]

chud

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/lewisauu-gif-14619640480469457782

[meager crag]

Rekt

No way you'll ever recover from that one

[main jewel]

i love being a fat chubby slob chud

[meager crag]

I love you too

[main jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1456489231143928015/1499065862735532112/attachment.gif

[meager crag]

[main jewel]

what

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/takaba-megumi-reggie-hazenoki-fumihiko-gif-2083906960725172795

[meager crag]

JK

Hah

Gottem

[main jewel]

your just trying to protect yourself from the screenshots

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-metal-gear-rising-jetstream-sam-shut-up-shut-the-fucup-gif-25533262

[proven hollow]

this simping has gone too far

[meager crag]

I mean, we've already established that Lexa is simping someone of the mod team

We still haven't determined who

[main jewel]

DUEEE YOURRRR SIMPINGNGN

[meager crag]

Because, apparently, it's not Rahmi, it's not Tampico, it's not Jack, it's not me

So who could it be?

[visual mortar]

have you seen the chud video

[meager crag]

No, I'm Crimson

Handsome Crimson

[proven hollow]

honestly everything she has said in response to this claim has just confirmed it

[main jewel]

no

[main jewel]

WHATTTT

[proven hollow]

you heard me

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-crash-out-crashout-lightning-gif-5743222025513960317

[proven hollow]

ignoring and denying what you feel isn't healthy lexa

[meager crag]

Glad to see someone else realizes who it is

[dreamy dagger]

Wassup, goodfellas

[hardy totem]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ocen-strasnoe-kino-scary-movie-6--k01KRY1DPEB035XA76A9FC0B4T8

[visual mortar]

h

[main jewel]

everyone is dying

[dreamy dagger]

Nothing much, Tankovicman. Cleaning up Discord servers atm. You?

[meager crag]

Wassup, there's our local Ray of Cope

[hardy totem]

thawing salmon for dinner

how many slaps does it take again?

[proven hollow]

stop spanking your salmon

[hardy totem]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bugs-bunny-bunny-1--k01KRY2B5GW599TJGHSX64XF8MT

[visual mortar]

i rub my salmon until its cooked

[vernal lily]

With enough heat it'll generate, it will be cooked at some point

[vernal lily]

rewatching that movie soon

possibly tonight

[cyan sparrow]

So tempting, very good reviews about new Gamma update, and rising reviews about Misery.

[visual mortar]

you realize temptation is of the devil

[cyan sparrow]

I suppose, the temptation is ridiculously intense.

[terse tendon]

are the enhanced graphics better than the originals

[vernal lily]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mistwol-cat--k01KRKCQYADAA60HEFRJJHTB4P7

[visual mortar]

i mean its about the same but there's better shadows, ssao, and anti aliasing

so if that tickles you

[terse tendon]

hmm okay

[visual mortar]

original trilogy anti aliasing was just broken

[terse tendon]

i heard that cs and cop look better with enhanced

[visual mortar]

idk i haven't tried them

I'm playing through soc on my steam deck

[terse tendon]

oh alright

[meager crag]

Also reminder that the OG games are better than the Enhanced Edition

[serene barn]

i hope they make the trading changes to 2 that i remember CoP having.

[meager crag]

Enhanced Edition
Looks inside
Degraded Edition
Mfw

[vernal lily]

Is homemade ramen better than cup of noodles

[proven hollow]

why is that red

[terse tendon]

i will remember that

[proven hollow]

noodle

you a noodle

[terse tendon]

for sure

[proven hollow]

dafuq

[terse tendon]

noodles

[vernal lily]

Your question felt like it was phrased like that

Something enhanced doesn't mean it's always good

[serene barn]

why is what red, robo

[bold smelt]

enhanced is literally a synonym for "better"

[meager crag]

Which do you prefer, noodles or noodles soup?

[terse tendon]

noodles soup

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[vernal lily]

Cannibalism

[meager crag]

Cannibalisn't

[serene barn]

and sometimes labels are misused either on purpose or it just happened that something got made worse. there was a thing with the Crysis remasters where lighting became significantly worse for example. or like the fextures for it or something.

[bold smelt]

i know that but to say that enhanced doesnt always mean good implies the thing that it enhanced was so bad that its still not good even when made better

which i mean

yeah i hate stalker

[serene barn]

like overall? i guess

[bold smelt]

this series sucks they should make stalker 3

[meager crag]

Then that would be another game in a bad series

[vernal lily]

Stalker 67 when

[meager crag]

STALKER 76 first

[vernal lily]

True

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-voidout-kojima-higgs-gif-18209452343866751561

[meager crag]

STALKER 2 Multiplayer when?

[vernal lily]

Soon™

[mild haven]

Nothing ever happens chat

[hardy totem]

STALKER 99: Battle Royale

[frigid axle]

lowk side jobs where we actually talk and reason with the people instead of just killing or bringing an artifact would be very refreshing,

or like a mission that involves just killing 1 person, that maybe has an exo equipped ,

like every killing side job from the bartenders is always about a group, not 1 dude, like ik that in the trilogy it wasn't like this either but it would not hurt to put new types of Side jobs, as killing always a group of loners makes me feel lonely fr, how are there so many groups of Stalkers if in the zone no one is your friend?

[vernal lily]

Life is sometimes mundane like that

[meager crag]

STALKER 76: Battle of Pripyat

[vernal lily]

Top that with microtransactions

[serene barn]

some type of reputation system that comes from you doing missions for the factions and helping with gunfights etc if you see them happening would be cool

[frigid axle]

that was in CS i recall?

[frigid axle]

500 Radioactive coupons to get Sidorovich skin

[meager crag]

I LOBE CLEAR SKY

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/561153801114091521/1092159492021563473/ClearSkyMyBeloved.gif

[tame panther]

Noodles

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/scar-stalker-pibb-xtra-clear-sky-gif-14605512341377138525

[vernal lily]

I lobe clear sky

[frigid axle]

i prefer "or"

[serene barn]

i can't really remember if there was and or if it was different from the faction wars thing

[meager crag]

I lobe clear

[tame panther]

I lobe

[cyan sparrow]

Did you guys played gamma with newest patch?

[tame panther]

I dont play GAMMA

[meager crag]

Based

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blast-off-launch-cat-jumping-into-camera-gif-6639037559618288527

[cyan sparrow]

[visual mortar]

YEEEEEOWWWCH

[cyan sparrow]

Wait I got for you something else than Gamma/Misery slop

https://discordapp.com/channels/504587323577729024/561153801114091521/1506004375074639902

[meager crag]

AI slop

Different kind of slop but still slop

[still edge]

too late

[serene barn]

it's really annoying that you get game ads on things like youtube for fake ass games

[robust pendant]

So, lets do it:

1. S2 locations don't make sense according to the trilogy, and stuff like the scorcher is far beyond all the maps that the trilogy used as base. How were people unable to go north if the scorcher is closer to yantar and rostok than pripyat? Of course they made this to resemble the actual exclusion zone, unlike what the trilogy did, but its a big inconsistency anyway

2. CS already brings gameplay inconsistencies. So, clear sky is an undercover faction that literally nobody knew or acknowledged, they couldn't even take some renegades (worse bandits) out of a swamp, and then you magically have them fightning bandits, mercenaries and monoliths on red forest? And no one saw the whole faction going north? Even reaching the CNPP???

3. Strelok on SoC was an experienced stalker on SoC. But what the hell made him not only just walk into the military (hoping that they wouldn't shoot him) but also think that he was the real strelok? There wasnt actual image proof of him existing even. And why does he want to become a scientist all of a sudden? It's weird. And then in S2 (idk the lore much) he decided to "take care of the zone because he just likes her"????

4. CoP: anomalies in the sky? Are you just lying to my face? They were never a problem or a thing and suddenly they are?

5. theres 8 months of difference between CS and SoC. How long did the C-Conciousness plan to have him kidnaped before putting him on the death truck?

6. From what I heard, in S2, artifacts outside of the zone don't have the properties they do while in the zone. Well, why the hell is that? The whole purpose of them conserving their properties was that they could be sold to scientists or the black market. They are useless rocks now

And these are the ones I remember only, theres tons more

[vernal lily]

Holy moly

[robust pendant]

The devs also were inspired by some mods, so of course there would be inconsistencies

[robust pendant]

Yes, I am the annoying autistic talkative kid behind class

[slow crypt]

Most important, when New update

[serene barn]

or those mobile game ads that show you something that is only a mini game inside the game. hate deceptive ads like they just piss me off, it takes so little to just make an ad that shows your shit off but instead these companies or people go out of their way to try to trick you into it.

[meager crag]

There's proof of him existing

[robust pendant]

Most important; which other inconsistency will the new update bring

[meager crag]

It's known that Strelok is the one who deactivated the Scorcher

[robust pendant]

I should've said: theres no actual image proof

[bold smelt]

the entire faction going north in CS was always so cool, it was one of the few times where you could actually appreciate the size of a full faction and could feel the weight of it

[robust pendant]

And if there was, another inconsistency: everyone would've known him

[bold smelt]

like in most of the games, the factions you see seem more like loose associations while that entire part of clear sky felt more like you were part of an army

[robust pendant]

It is, yeah, but the faction itself are useless-at-combat scientists, not capable of going north

Its one of those disonance ludonarrative moments

[bold smelt]

i wouldnt say they arent capable, they of all people would know best how to breach to the north

[robust pendant]

They couldnt beat renegades

[dreamy dagger]

Damn, I went away and the chat came back to life

[robust pendant]

How are they even able to hold against monolithians

[meager crag]

Early game Clear Sky and late game Clear Sky are two different factions when it comes to equipment

[bold smelt]

the entire faction wasnt fighting them in a concentrated assault

[robust pendant]

Nah, not enough of a reason tbh

[meager crag]

It has a tendency to do that

[bold smelt]

thats what a spearhead is

[robust pendant]

Lame reason even

[meager crag]

You want a reason?

[robust pendant]

I want 2

[meager crag]

Protagonist Chad Scar

And secondly

[visual mortar]

im giving penguan a 30 minute timeout

[meager crag]

They got better equipment during the push towards the North

[bold smelt]

i mean thats just what a concentrated assault does

[robust pendant]

Lame reason

[meager crag]

It's the truth

It B wat it B

[robust pendant]

The truth is LAME

[bold smelt]

its not like clear sky was fighting all through the zone, they were an entire army condensed into a small area, if anything they were basically human waving the monolith

[robust pendant]

But well, if you want to believe that CS could actually hold against monolithians, you have all the other inconsistencies

[meager crag]

It's better than "Akshually, Clear Sky is actually associated with the Group and Scar is a Marked Agent ☝️🤓"

Pure fanfic slop

[robust pendant]

Another inconsistency!

Damn, we are finding so many

[meager crag]

Want to hear a really bad one?

[robust pendant]

Sure!

[visual mortar]

i hate this Gordon guy

[robust pendant]

Dont worry, we all do

[serene barn]

so uh, in CS, at the end there's that big emission happening but having played 2. how does that work if the higher ups of CS was actually working for, C-Con? like why would C-con trigger an emission right then and there, knowing those people are like, right there in the open

[meager crag]

If artifacts only work for a limited time outside the Zone now, why would people still go to the Zone? After all, the most important riches you can find in the Zone are artifacts. The Big Land and the Zone are literally cooperating with each other to get what the Zone has. With artifacts no longer working, the Zone economy should be hella dead and there barely should be any people

[robust pendant]

Luck, hope and sillyness

[meager crag]

Because HoC is pure fanfic

[robust pendant]

ANOTHER BIG ONE, thank you

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/scar-stalker-pibb-xtra-clear-sky-gif-14605512341377138525

[serene barn]

like "so we've got them all here so let us just betray these guys that have been working for us"

[meager crag]

Mercenary Scar, my beloved

[serene barn]

but like at least kalanchan or what his name was, survived it for some reason?

[robust pendant]

Well in that case it could be the classic: "thank you for your service, now I kill you and I win"

[bold smelt]

apparently barrage is a new word

[meager crag]

Novikov and Nimble

At least, those are two we know who survived

We don't know about Beanpolev, the duder you're referring to

[serene barn]

was Nimble really CS or did he just help them out, i forgor

[meager crag]

He was Clear Sky

[robust pendant]

He was cs, then loner

[meager crag]

Started working for Sid, then started his own business

[serene barn]

i really hated what Sidor became like in 2.

[meager crag]

And then he became a dumbass with a snork mask on his shoulder

Because hurr durr

[austere flare]

Hey is it normal for like 30 controllers to just randomly spawn infront of you?

[robust pendant]

At this point, why not heheh

[meager crag]

No, it's usually 50

[serene barn]

no but it happens apparently. only heard about hordes of Burers and bloodsuckers but i guess i shouldn't be surprised Controllers too

[austere flare]

Whaaaaat??

[meager crag]

I dunno, the spawning system of HoC is weird, in case you're referring to HoC

[austere flare]

Yeah, is there a media channel or something?

[serene barn]

the spawn system that tries to immitate A-Life has been messed up for a while now

[meager crag]

#📸┃screens_and_videos

[austere flare]

Check that out

[meager crag]

Imitate indeed

Yeah, those aren't Controllers

Those are Burers

[main jewel]

are you

[austere flare]

oh i thought those small ugly dwarfs were controllers

[main jewel]

are you

coming to the tree

[meager crag]

Say it, Lexa

[main jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1316216060629749770.gif?size=320

[austere flare]

and they like threw stuff at me

[main jewel]

hi

[meager crag]

Hi

[austere flare]

But still, that many of them???

[meager crag]

Apparently happens more often than you'd think

Which obviously isn't as intended

[austere flare]

I'm just trying to get to SIRCAA and the rads spike up and then suddently those spawn in 😭

[serene barn]

imagine if we told you yeah it's supposed to happen and then get pics of it happening from others to "prove" it's meant to happen

[austere flare]

Like that area left of Sircaa for some reason is super radioactive

[meager crag]

Totally balanced gameplay

[serene barn]

clearly is intentional if it happens often, surely

[austere flare]

Even with the best gear in the game, no way you would stand a chance

[serene barn]

and yeah so, seemingly random pockets of mega radiation is a thing they did.

we don't want you to go here but we assume you'll figure it out after being cooked and having to load a save, potentially setting you back a good bit.

[old aurora]

1. The map was changed to make it more realistic to the Irl Zone. This is more of an artistic choice rather than a lore one. It doesn't really have any impacts but the brain scorcher is a very good point.

2. CS were controlled by C-Con. That's how they were able to achieve such feats you mentioned.

3. The military is likely under orders to not shoot anyone claiming to be Strelok. Making it likely a "don't shoot until we can confirm whether they're Strelok or not." Then Strelok can prove himself.

In CoP it's stated that Strelok saw the Zone as a curse and a horrible thing needing to be wiped out. This is because of the brainwashing he experienced and everything with C-Consciousness. Strelok decides to join the military/scientists because he wants to destroy the Zone and sees them as the only ones having the means to do so. He later changes his mind whilst he is a scientist after seeing it wasn't the Zone but C-Con and others who did that to him.

4. Why not add new anomalies?

5. A fair bit I'd assume.

6. Artifacts have use outside the Zone due to them being a thing to study. And it's stated they gradually lose properties outside the Zone not that it's instant. So taking the artifact is useful for a good bit until you need to get near the Zone and you can recharge it. The time isn't stated and it likely varies by artifact. Point is they would still be extremely valuable on the black market since they don't lose their properties instantly.

[bold smelt]

also to be honest anomalies in the sky isnt an inconsistency, in CoP they establish that the military has anomaly maps but they need to be renewed, its very easily explainable why it wasnt present in previous games

[serene barn]

i feel like he knew he knew that some things was done by the C-Con after learning about them. i still find it weird he goes from "we should destroy the zone" to "muh baby"

[meager crag]

1. Absolute trash, now the Barrier and the Brain Scorcher don't make any sense whatsoever
2. Fake asf
3. Speculation

Same with Zaton and the area of Yanov literally being past the Brain Scorcher

[old aurora]

He basically learns it wasn't the Zone that wrecked him. It was C-Con and everyone else.

[serene barn]

4: new anomalies was added though? the water whirls and Poppers are new. can't remember if the ball lightning were old ones.

[meager crag]

They were in Clear Sky as well actually

Not sure what you mean with poppers though

Unless you mean HoC anomalies

[old aurora]

Yeah brain scorcher is pretty bs. Also 2 is confirmed in S2. 3 just makes sense. There isn't always a direct answer to things and things can be left up to speculation. Especially more minor details like that.

[serene barn]

ehh idk, i don't think i remember him ever blaming the zone for him having been brainwashed partially or anything. before that he even actively tried to get into the center for no other reason that it was hip to do.

[meager crag]

Confirmed in S2 which is SLOP

[old aurora]

Don't forget he was also still partly brainwashed during that time too.

[serene barn]

like the zone still got people killed on the daily

[meager crag]

It just reads as fanfic and goes against CS

[old aurora]

Um. It's canon. Dk what to tell you.

[bold smelt]

to be fair, the fact that 3 is speculation to begin with shows that it isnt an inconsistency, theres a bunch of reasons you could speculate why strelok was able to go to the government

[serene barn]

the Zone holds wonder but also danger.

[meager crag]

It's not because it's slop

[old aurora]

How does it go against CS? And how is S2 slop?

[meager crag]

Clear Sky wants to co-exist with the Zone

[old aurora]

That's what they SAY they want.

[meager crag]

Yeah right

That's what HoC says

And we've already established that HoC is just fanfic

[serene barn]

in CS, he wasn't. but he wanted to see the center because people hadn't been there before because you couldn't really get there. CC using the Monolith as guards and letting out Emissions didn't make the trip any safer.

[meager crag]

He does have a ton of knowledge about the Zone and offered them answers on how to destroy it

And Military Stalkers are obviously a thing

[bold smelt]

i also feel like his intimate knowledge of the zone and events that only he wouldve known about would make it pretty feasible that he could simply prove who he was by just talking

[main jewel]

@deft tartan thwnk you for bootsting

boosting

the seriever

[meager crag]

B r u h

[main jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1316216060629749770.gif?size=320

heres your present

[serene barn]

it's only in SoC which takes place after, that he was attempted to be brainwashed into becoming an agent for the CC but something went wrong and his brainwashing didn't stick but it did however cause amnesia for a time but he did regain his memories. i do not know if there is any signs that he hasn't been cleared from the attempted programming and i think there's something with the fact the programming breaks if they ever find out they're an agent as we see in 2 with Scar.

[main jewel]

a burning dog

[meager crag]

@deft tartan
Thwnk you for bootsting the seriever

[main jewel]

he survives the fire with no pain

he just is really hor

hot

[meager crag]

Just like me

[main jewel]

are you sure

[meager crag]

No

[main jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404628926164107336/1501332681760309468/IMG_0008.gif

[old aurora]

This isn't great reasoning. "S2 is slop because it changes what we thought CS was"

[meager crag]

I'm actively gaslighting myself by saying I'm ugly to not create an ego

[meager crag]

HoC is literally fanfic bro, sorry but that's the truth

[old aurora]

Why? Why is it fanfic?

[meager crag]

Are you a Star Wars fan?

[meager crag]

New GSC, new vision

[old aurora]

Major one yes.

[meager crag]

Too many inconsistencies fr

[old aurora]

Fanatic of it

[meager crag]

Is Disney Canon canon?

[old aurora]

And S2 is not like the sequels

[old aurora]

No but S2 isn't comparable to the Disney sequels in the way you're thinking of it. These aren't inconsistencies in S2 these are additions to the lore.

[meager crag]

Excuses

[old aurora]

I feel you're ragebaiting.

[meager crag]

Nah, I'm not

HoC is

Because it's fanfic

[old aurora]

But WHY

[meager crag]

Because of the lore

[deft tartan]

@main jewel @meager crag

[old aurora]

And what's wrong with it?

[meager crag]

Everything

Like, legit

[old aurora]

Well can you give 5 examples

[meager crag]

So many inconsistencies fr

[old aurora]

Ok so you're ragebaiting. Lol.

[deft tartan]

I heard a ping and thought that Mol1t dropped an announcement

[old aurora]

Got me lowkey

[serene barn]

i feel like mayyyybe people are overexaggerating the amount of retcons etc

[old aurora]

Majorly yeah

[bold smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-17870535188958174605

[old aurora]

Lol

[meager crag]

1. The Brain Scorcher and the Barrier
2. Distance between Jupiter and Zaton, which both are past the Brain Scorcher in the Trilogy
3. Strelok wants to save the Zone all of a sudden
4. Nimble potentially killing Fang makes no sense whatsoever
5. The whole "Artifacts don't work for an unlimited time outside the Zone" thing

[hardy totem]

Missed part 4 lol

That's ridiculous

Or I forgot

[serene barn]

did Nimble kill fang? he says he isn't in the business of killing stalkers iirc in 2.

[hardy totem]

Probably purged most of S2.Nimble from my brain

[meager crag]

Okay, that's fair. He was ordered to kill him, it's not confirmed that he actually did

So that's on me

But IF he did, then that's absolute bs

[frigid axle]

the 6th is so true

"Artifacts lose their special properties if they stay too much outside of the zone" i never heard this line nor in SoC or CS, and now it's canon?

well lemme say smt, Herman was jus spitting bs to seem like a true scientist, trust me

[serene barn]

i do feel like the artifacts turning duds was a weird choice because it makes so sense when the other 3 games has literal uses and research being done into artifacts outside the zone for years and then suddenly in 2 we're told they run out of power seemingly shortly after like what the hael

[meager crag]

Like, with artifacts becoming useless, it basically destroys the entire Zone economy

[frigid axle]

But it was said only by hermann right?

[hardy totem]

Especially because of the focus on artifact export in the trilOG, makes little sense if they duracel out in 5 minutes

[serene barn]

is it Fang we find in uh, what X was it again

[meager crag]

As such, there should be less Stalkers in the Zone, less equipment, weapons, ammo, food, etc.

[serene barn]

who happens to have a Controller in the room

[meager crag]

Nah, that's Ghost in X-16

[serene barn]

aight

[bold smelt]

god forbid adding lore in a later game

[serene barn]

mb

[frigid axle]

it just defies the Artifact entire economy by adding that fact

[meager crag]

I don't mind additions, at least make it consistent

Which, in the case of additions, rarely is the case

[serene barn]

when it's literally a "we changed our minds about a really big part of the reason people go to the zone" yesss

[bold smelt]

not really, if anything that makes it more important for stalkers to be collecting artefacts consistently

[bold smelt]

"stalkers go to the zone to sell artefacts to the outside" vs "stalkers go to the zone to sell artefacts to the outside" such a big difference

by this logic there is no reason to procure anything radioactive because its just gonna decay with time anyway

[serene barn]

"we needed a reason for it to make sense that skif would go to the zone and he also just casually happens to know about the zone beforehand because he's a black market artifact dealer that sells dry batteries 🤓 "

[bold smelt]

artefacts being on a timer changes little

[old aurora]

1 and 2) Map retcons I get. Those are real and I understand that being an issue.

3. Strelok wanted to save the Zone since he saw that it wasn't the Zone that wrecked him, it was C-Con. He was also still partly brainwashed at that point. Him changing his mind later makes sense.

4. Potentially is what matters there. It's never confirmed and whilst it is likely I don't see the problem with it.

5. Were artifacts ever stated to work permanently outside the Zone? The way it's talked about in HoC it's that they slowly lose their properties not instantly. And returning them to the Zone revives their energy. It's really not a inconsistency but just added lore.

Most of this is just added lore. It doesn't change anything it just adds upon the existing lore. This is what sequels usually should do.

[bold smelt]

if anything that just makes collecting artefacts more important and thus reinforces the whole "stalkers go to the zone to sell artefacts to the outside" thing

[visual mortar]

they should make an artefact that teleports you to a QuikTrip

[wheat stream]

Anyone know date for dlc?

[old aurora]

4/1/2067

But nah fr it's just unknown

[serene barn]

"stalkers going to the zone to get artifacts and sell them to the outside because they have uses in medicine and other fields" to "stalkers to go the zone to get pretty rocks to sell as souvenirs to people outside the zone"

[meager crag]

3. But CoP is post-SoC, so that doesn't make sense

[bold smelt]

why not both? i dont recall S2 saying the former was just not true

[serene barn]

it's a bigger change than you're really thinking it to be, promise

[frigid axle]

i mean it would have sense that artifacts like charge and function only in the zone, which means that they need continuous Anomalous energy, but it means also that every artifact would need to be re-charged in their respective Anomalies where they were found, not just in the zone in general

[meager crag]

5. Was it ever stated that they only work for a limited amount of time in the Trilogy?

[main jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1456489231143928015/1499065862735532112/attachment.gif

[bold smelt]

should farmers stop growing crops just because their product starts rotting when shipped out of the field?

[old aurora]

How so?

[frigid axle]

bro crops and artifacts are not the same thing

[meager crag]

Because Strelok says he wants to destroy the Zone in CoP

[serene barn]

artifacts had uses in medicine, dealing with radiation also seems important. others were researched as a means of powering things like Flash artifacts are literally uses in making Gauss Rifle magazines because before they found that out, the magazine literally needed too much power to work. artifacts could be used in treating all sorts of wounds and injuries and then in 2 they're just powerless, useless rocks sold simply because they came from the zone. like what happened to literal years of research and appliances for them

[bold smelt]

thats why its an analogy

[old aurora]

No but it's also never said it doesn't.

[foggy torrent]

strelkok

[serene barn]

because you can't just pull a "but they stopped working and we can't tell you why nor is there any hints at why either"

[foggy torrent]

we are officially 2 showers away from metro 2039 releasing

[bold smelt]

where is this stated? i do not recall them retconning artefacts working at all outside the zone

wouldnt they just decay like anything

[serene barn]

it's stated in the game. artifacts in 2, are said to lose their charge.

[old aurora]

Strelok by that point still saw the Zone (given it's the result of C-Conconsciousness) as something to be destroyed. Only for him to see it's "beauty" as he slowly realizes it shaped him and he was "reborn" into the Zone. That makes sense to change him from "Destroy the Zone" to "Protect the Zone"

[bold smelt]

where is it stated so i can look for it

[frigid axle]

im saying that you can't compare Artifacts (things that we still don't comprehend) to crops which are things we eat and expire,

artifacts don't expire, in your sense, they need continuous Anomalous energy to function, but as i said, if you and the game were right, they would need to be recharged every once in a while in their corresponding anomalies they were found, not just in the zone in general as i said

[serene barn]

but that wasn't a thing before. that was a new change they did so they could push the story along.

[meager crag]

Sounds like trash

[old aurora]

How?

[meager crag]

Anyways, I'm sticking to the Trilogy

Which isn't slop

Yes, even the Trilogy has lore inconsistencies, but not as bad as that

[bold smelt]

then they just function as batteries

[serene barn]

i guess i don't remember but i am certain it was said that they stop working when outside the zone and it's being used as the only reason that skif has to take his artifact back into the zone to figure out what is up with it

[old aurora]

I think you're greatly exaggerating how bad the "inconsistencies" are. But you're entitled to your opinion.

[serene barn]

it's why he's trying to recharge it with the scanner

[bold smelt]

ill look out for it next time i play

[frigid axle]

yes, but as i said and this is the 3rd time i repeat it, they should be recharged in their corresponding anomalies every once in a while to function, like arch artifacts,

that's why this addition is inconsistent, because it doesn't have much base

[old aurora]

They do. Lemme get a ss. It's mentioned in Skif's first pda entry.

[meager crag]

Just like how I think Star Wars canon is bad

[old aurora]

Lemme get the screenshot one sec

[bold smelt]

how is it baseless? nothing in the previous games outright states it cant be that way

[old aurora]

Star Wars Disney "canon" is SO SO SO much different than S2 inconsistences

[meager crag]

Nah

[bold smelt]

they could just decay with time and have to be recharged in their anomalies, so what? its not like the trilogy stated this cant be the case

[frigid axle]

bro do i have to repeat it a 4th time? THEY HAVE TO BE RECHARGED EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IN THEIR CORRESPONDING ANOMALIES, LIKE ARCH ARTIFACTS, IF THEY WERE BATTERIES, NOT THE ZONE IN GENERAL

[meager crag]

Okay

But in that case

Shouldn't the Gauss Rifle be able to recharge ammo?

[bold smelt]

are you reading what im saying or just repeating the same thing every time you see my name show up in chat, i literally responded to that and your rebuttal was to just repeat yourselfd

[meager crag]

[bold smelt]

that would be feasible would it not?

[meager crag]

Does it happen though?

[bold smelt]

throw your ammo into an anomaly and find out

[serene barn]

i mean it shoots projectiles, the artifact is simply there to power the mechanism in the gun.

[frigid axle]

You're not understanding what i wrote 4 times and you still come back with questions,

You said why is the addition of artifacts being batteries baseless,

and if you just read what i write, you get the answer,

if artifacts were batteries, they need to be recharged in their corresponding anomaly every once in a while,

that's why the addition is baseless, because such feature doesn't exist for every artifact

This is the 5th time bro

[old aurora]

@frigid axle #📸┃screens_and_videos message

So it's implied actually that only some artifacts burn out

[frigid axle]

that's the topic, thanks for figuring out what we're talking about

[meager crag]

What about the EM1 then?

[old aurora]

OHhhhhhhhhhhhh. Sorry I misunderstood it. But why would artifacts need to be charged in their specific anomaly?

Why couldn't it js be the Zone?

[frigid axle]

what im saying is, that this addition is baseless and senseless if every artifact is a battery, they need to be recharged in their corresponding anomalies, because the zone it self doesn't offer always the Anomalous energy that there is in anomalies, or you'd get killed for just being in the zone

[bold smelt]

you said it was baseless because it was... baseless, your reasoning didnt involve WHY it was baseless, you just stated lore and then said it was baseless, WHY cant they be recharged in anomalies? does the game state they cannot be?

"such feature doesnt exist for every artefact" is a baseless claim

[serene barn]

artifacts are really just, a piece of something that might as well be a rock, a piece of plastic like material, a thing that feels like raw meat maybe. a thing that feels like it's ice just ice but it's not cold maybe. artifacts are just items that doesn't super make sense. but they are basically magical in nature in that science simply cannot explain how they work. science only knows that they work but not how. that is why they have a use and when they don't have any power in them the same way a battery runs out of charge. it becomes useless.

[old aurora]

Or the Zone that naturally has anomalous energy charges the artifact?

[main jewel]

this convo lowkey belongs in #s2-lore-discussions

lore discussion is takinh over

[old aurora]

ok

[serene barn]

Fallout 4 Quad effect stacked

[main jewel]

next is memes char

im so freakinf scared

[main jewel]

its infecting the server

[serene barn]

or was Quad added in 76, i forgot.

[bold smelt]

also the screenshot @old aurora provided doesnt even imply the zone itself fuels them, it just says they burnt out after being taken out of the zone.

[old aurora]

You have no idea

[main jewel]

and i didnt say move btw.. keep talkin… but golly

GSC PLEASE GUVE USSSSS DLC NEWSSSS

and dont tou dare brinf back tachenko from the dead

[serene barn]

anyway the Gauss Gun shoots projectiles, likely of some metal. the magazines are hold both the projectiles and the electrical charge for the gun to shoot.

[old aurora]

I remember smn from the first cutscene. Lemme find the clip

[main jewel]

it fires the bullet part of a 5.56 or 7.62 cartridge

[serene barn]

do we know that or is that just guesswork lol

[main jewel]

you can check on the model

[old aurora]

Ok so yea you're right. They lose their anomalous energy and you need a scanner to recharge it

[bold smelt]

keyword being recharge and not reactivate, right?

[serene barn]

where on the model exactly if i don't spot it easily lol

[bold smelt]

actually well them being recharged anyway just implies they are batteries

[old aurora]

Yeah

[serene barn]

i mean, they are in the sense that 2 makes them appear to lose the charge over a shorter time like using a battery does.

[frigid axle]

Imma explain in a special way just to make you understand

1. GSC reveals in S2 that artifacts are batteries which run out if theire put of the zone

2. in game, you get always artifacts when theire inside anomalies, meaning that they are born/charged there

3. once you acquire the Artifact, its battery it's infinite even if you don't come back to its original anomaly where it was born/charged

4. if artifacts don't run out of battery even if theire outside their Anomalous charge zone(anomaly where they were born) why would they run out of battery outside of the zone?

5. the zone doesn't have a constant charge of Anomalous energy, every anomaly field has its own Anomalous energy field, if the Anomalous energy field would fill every part of the zone, there would be anomalies generated everywhere (in my opinion) so by the time you took the artifact with you and left the Anomalous field with anomalies, the artifact should run out of its Anomalous charge, but it doesn't, so it means that Artifacts are not batteries since they don't get charged by the anomalies where they were born into

[serene barn]

like uh, Enchantments from Skyrim lose charge when used.

[serene barn]

but when outside of the zone there is no means of recharging them and it's why they take them back into the zone.

[old aurora]

The Zone has anomalous energy in it, all the time.

[frigid axle]

those are emissions

[serene barn]

the scanners are made to collect the surrounding anomalous energy and funnel it into the artifacts.

[old aurora]

Likely a tiny stream of it at all times

Just enough to power artifacts

[serene barn]

i think imma just try to find a sharper video lel

[frigid axle]

those are the left overs of emissions, which are not enough to charge a whole artifact, imagine hundreds of them while theire not in the Anomalous field,

I say that the Addition is baseless because there's little context about it, GSC should add more of it

[frigid hill]

fox464 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tame panther]

AAAAGGGHHHH

[old aurora]

Who says they aren't enough to charge a whole artifact?

[frigid axle]

get wolfd

[old aurora]

Ok but that doesn't mean you need to go to anomalies to charge artifacts

[meager crag]

Git got

[tame panther]

I think artifacts dying out outside if the Zone iss nonsense
In the triology many institutes and pharmacies and such would buy them outside of the Zone FOR THEIR PROPERTIES

[serene barn]

i can't currently remember if the energy from emissions linger in any way. always just sort of looked at it like an energy wave or shockwave but it's Psi energy.

[tame panther]

Anomolous Energy is like the Noosphere its all around the whole time

And connected with many things

[bold smelt]

3 can be debunked by just saying thats gameplay vs lore, you are treating it like lore and gameplay have to be 1:1. If gameplay fit lore, the game would be way different

4 can also be debunked by saying thats just for gameplay, but they also would run out of battery outside of the zone for the same reason they would run out inside of it, thats just how batteries work, they deplete stored energy

5 just doesnt make sense, A, anomalys DO form practically everywhere at random, B, the artefacts ARE batteries BECAUSE they hold charge OUTSIDE of their anomalous energy birthplaces, that is what is battery IS, you described the OPPOSITE of a battery (something that needs constant charge and cannot store energy when removed from charge) and said that artefacts cant be batteries because they didnt fit your description of one, which wasnt a description of a battery

[tame panther]

Its how i explained artifacts and anomalies appearing in emission shelters even though emissions create anomalies
Its the informational field

[serene barn]

Anomalous energy might as well be looked at like air is. you don't see it but it's there.

[icy onyx]

It’s true, there is a constant anomalous background in the Zone, like radiation.

[old aurora]

Thank you

[frigid axle]

it just doesn't make sense that they would get charged while theire outside their Anomalous field,

what about arch artifacts like the Flower? why don't they get charged even if theire not in their original anomalous field?

some might say because they need a special Anomalous field, but if yes, why does this not count for every other artifact?

artifacts are born in certain Anomalous fields and only certain types are made in certain anomalies, theire not all the same,

why would the zone charge every type of them no matter what anomalies they were born into, apart the arch ones? it's just inconsistent

[icy onyx]

It can be seen through Faust’s eyes at the Duga.

[old aurora]

Because they get charged by anomalies energy. They are formed by the specific anomalous energy but they don't need it further

[serene barn]

what he sees is similar to veins really.

[ruby gale]

[bold smelt]

your entire argument stems on the assumption that artefacts arent just decaying constantly from the moment they are collected originally, when they could be

[meager crag]

What have we started...

[plain fiber]

So basically, removing an artifact from the Zone is like pulling a rechargeable battery from the charging port.

[bold smelt]

shut up CRIMSON

[bold smelt]

yeah thats what im thinking, i dont think them being in the zone has anything to do with charge to begin with, the screenshot we are working off of just says they lost charge "after being taken out of the zone"

[serene barn]

i think the energy is just more concentrated in some places such as where the anomalies are.

[fickle hill]

Nah pulling an artifact from the zone is unplugging grandma's life support

[meager crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/888505973185085460/1074118274175991808/attachment.gif

[plain fiber]

It's also never been explicitly stated how long it takes artifacts to lose their charge, at least as far as I can remember. Some might lose charge fast, others might take months or even years, which would allow them to still be researched even outside of the Zone. Hell, realistically there would be labs immediately outside the Zone to help make this less of an issue.

[serene barn]

realistically, there wouldn't be a black market for powerless artifacts but there apparently is as Skif used to be in it

[icy onyx]

This is what psi looks like. Here’s a more detailed explanation of what psi is:
#s2-lore-discussions message

Psi exists throughout the entire human nervous system, which is why it looks similar to veins. Still, take a closer look at that scene sometime, because the area near the generators has the highest concentration of psi.

[plain fiber]

I imagine even when they're powerless there's still stuff to be learned from them. Powerless does not equal completely useless.

[serene barn]

isn't the Generators where the C-Con was at or am i already misremembering lol

[fickle hill]

Nope you're correct

[serene barn]

so the literal ground zero, the center of where it all started, having the most concentration of anomalous energy isn't weird

[icy onyx]

Yes, nearby — but anomalous energy also contains psi. Or rather, psi can carry anomalous energy. That’s why emissions can be used to obtain information from the Noosphere (there was a quest about this, if you played that side quest).

[serene barn]

that quest was vague on what was being picked up from the Noosphere but the guy was pretty scared of it. hopefully DLCs will touch on it

[frigid axle]

your theory of 3 can be debunked as well as only in S2 it has been mentioned that artifacts have a charge, while in the trilogy it's completely not mentioned, so This is lore vs lore, and putting an addition to the lore out of no where just to fit the Taped up Campaign they made is quite meh,

i don't think you understood 4,while i do agree that i don't want to charge my artifact every hour in a normal anomaly field since it would be tortuous for every artifact, it doesn't mention in The game that artifacts run out of energy even inside the zone while they're away from their Anomalous field,

and your 5, by everywhere i meant all at the same time, if the energy that makes anomalies would be everywhere in every sense, we would see trains of anomalies or waaaaay bigger Anomalous fields than what there is present, you could say it's a gameplay choice that we don't have anomalies literally everywhere, but lore wise, giant Anomalous fields as well as anomalies erupting inside Accampents out of no where is not mentioned,

it would be very cool if S2 instead made anomalies have their own ecosystem, spawning, changing position etc instead of being always in the same spots

[icy onyx]

I think he obtained information from the Noosphere about the laboratories, experiments, or something similar. Or perhaps he understood what kind of power the Noosphere provides.

[bold smelt]

you are being hampered by the idea that just because the trilogy didnt state it, means it is baseless, when that just isnt how you improve upon or add upon lore in any story

[frigid axle]

this add-on was made just for the campaign, not for the game in general

[bold smelt]

CS didnt mention aerial anomalies, does that make CoP making them a thing baseless?

SoC didnt have chimeras (officially), does that make their inclusion in later games baseless?

[frigid axle]

It depends what additions, not every addition

[serene barn]

was there any mention of anyone flying anything into the zone before CoP?

[bold smelt]

there are helicopters flying in both previous games you can see them, also their wrecks

[meager crag]

In CS, we technically do see anomalies in the sky or just above ground I guess, but yeah, you see the same in Zaton's swamp and that's obviously something different than SKY-sky anomalies

[serene barn]

the only thing i feel like didn't make sense about the air anomalies is that the military somehow didn't already know that emissions can move anomalies

[frigid axle]

by what i said i didn't mean to say that everything new and added is baseless, i just mean that the new thing that artifacts have a battery that runs out only outside of the zone just for story wise it seems quite just meh imo

[meager crag]

Yeah, Duty and Military choppers

In CS

[bold smelt]

yeah that was always kind of weird, i always took it as "they didnt expect them to move so much" more than at all

[meager crag]

And obviously Operation Monolith in SoC

[bold smelt]

i think it makes sense and does not contradict the previous games

if anything i think it reinforces them, because it makes artefacts a much more valuable resource if they decay, making collecting them much more needed and thus further reinforcing why stalkers risk their lives to get them

[frigid axle]

but it has not been made decently , it has just Been slapped on the lore just to start the campaign and give hermann something to say

[meager crag]

If there are anomalies in the sky, why doesn't it rain artifacts?

[frigid axle]

which anomalies did CoP mention to be in the sky? im still in CS

[meager crag]

CoP is now completely unplayable for me

[serene barn]

something something artifact called something with raven or crow and how it was made when a birb hit an anomaly in flight

[meager crag]

We don't know the exact ones

Definitely electrical ones

[frigid axle]

hmm, i mean, if theire gravity anomalies it would have sense if artifacts wouldn't rain

[meager crag]

Seen the intro

[frigid axle]

oh then maybe theire like a self defense system of the zone? like anomalies with the purpose to protect the skies with no production at all of artifacts?

[frigid axle]

also maybe they got caught bcs they were too high?

[serene barn]

or what if

they got unlucky.

[bold smelt]

the reason they give implies they were just unprepared and unlucky

aerial anomalies move with every emission and need to be remapped

where is matt he would be a boon in this chat

[frigid axle]

i just wish anomalies were modular and dynamic in s2 at least, always seeing those damn anomalies always in the same spots

[bold smelt]

matt hasnt spoken in a year and a half

[frigid axle]

there are a lot of Matt's here

[bold smelt]

THE matt

markedmatt

he has basically every line of dialogue in the entire trilogy memorized and has folders upon folders screenshotting every single one that he pulled out at will

[meager crag]

Yeah, he was basically my upgraded brother

He was a Chad

I've got some screenshots, just not everything

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-gif-26558298

[serene barn]

i always wondered about the whole thing of, why did they make alcohol deal with radiation

like i mean i guess you wouldn't get tipsy and or drunk when you drink one in the field but it seems like you could be in trouble if you're far away from a safe place and it hits when you're making your way back from somewhere

[visual mortar]

what was the context

[bold smelt]

no idea

[visual mortar]

oh we were talking about help wanted and he had a Warhammer lore discussion in the middle of it

[meager crag]

I am older and wiser now

And I say that Warhammer is wack

[visual mortar]

no way

[charred nova]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-4chan-reddit-chud-gif-14538241456900206089

[visual mortar]

i never thought you'd come around

you escaped the chains

[serene barn]

i wonder why they got rid of the pills from CoP

[frigid axle]

bro is an archive, remembers the trilogy better than the devs

[meager crag]

I wonder why they got rid of the binoculars

[serene barn]

different GSC moment

[meager crag]

Real

[visual mortar]

tell me about it

[drifting bear]

soviet rumors

[frigid axle]

Mattress

[meager crag]

Not inaccurate

He was a big mafia fan

[serene barn]

i mean i get maybe alcohol being a cultural thing in that part of the world but also.....you're not outrunning any mutant if you're seeing double lol

[frigid axle]

matter

[serene barn]

not to mention you'd want to deal with the rads as soon as possible too

[meager crag]

Tall Tales

[frigid axle]

what about short tales

[visual mortar]

tiny tales

[meager crag]

Medium tho

[frigid axle]

they have personality still im sure

[visual mortar]

what does this mean

[frigid axle]

you'll learn when you grow up pal

[visual mortar]

this guy is a pervert

[frigid axle]

i learnt that at 89y,i still have a long way to go

[visual mortar]

can we skin him

@meager crag box cutter

[frigid axle]

NOOOO

what if im like, a circle

[visual mortar]

https://blob.gifcities.org/gifcities/TCNA7FKUIDJ56EQRFGLDFM4L5AIN256P.gif

[frigid axle]

NOT THAT CIRCLE

[meager crag]

https://blob.gifcities.org/gifcities/PW5XSP4F7ORWC77ZGGFNCVSILZ6D6RNG.gif

[vapid galleon]

. . .

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-trampoline-fall-funny-creature-gif-12970157

[vapid galleon]

?

[visual mortar]

conqueror once again adding nothing

. . .

[vapid galleon]

bro stop rage baiting

[charred nova]

we are sending conqueror to Armenia

[vapid galleon]

pls

[vapid galleon]

what if we send you instead? 🕵️

[meager crag]

Who's you?

@you

Huh

[vapid galleon]

ahh senior ragebaiters try to bait the master

#JOK

#JOC

#STOC Gaming

I'm curious how many times 'Conqueror' was mentioned in the mod chat

[charred nova]

is this you in the room with us right now?

[vapid galleon]

[dreamy dagger]

Zamn
No way I retured to STOC and Crimson-san did as well

Destiny brought us back or some shit

[meager crag]

Who's Destiny and why would Destiny do such a thing?

[vapid galleon]

⬆️ 🤓

[dreamy dagger]

We need destiny to also bring back the server in its old shapeeeeeee

Abracadabra Streloksim Skifobin?

[vapid galleon]

🤣

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-shaquille-o'neal-laughing-laugh-laughing-meme-gif-11972956136274868539

[serene barn]

abraScardabra*

[main jewel]

did yoy know

that when trading things

you can change the difficulty to get better sell prices and allat

then you can change it back

[serene barn]

cringe

[main jewel]

top 10 tips

[vapid galleon]

blow up this guy

@seniors

[main jewel]

cause my unique ram 2 is not gunna be for only 4k coupons when it could be 28k

in rookie

alright theres nothing new for mods on s2 time to put the disc back in the shelf

[dreamy dagger]

S2?
Wasn't that fixed long time ago?!?!??!

[proven hollow]

when they gonna patch u krezzin?

[dreamy dagger]

Patch me?

Roboman monolithman, whatchutalkinman aboutman...

[ruby gale]

Is that really a surprise?

[frigid axle]

that's called Being a difficulty goblin

we all know true stalker Chads start with a difficulty and never change it until theire done

[fervent island]

Charlie Carious said that the 0.9.3+ in development is most likely a 0.9.5

[fervent island]

And then in S2 (idk the lore much) he decided to "take care of the zone because he just likes her"????
Right, but the almanac explains it, basically strelok already was a "not exactly sane" person since before of the events of Clear Sky

[robust pendant]

Well, yeah, no one is the zone is, but its just weird still

He wanted it gone, then he decides to join military to study it (maybe fully destroy it) and then he wants to untouched

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-aww-cute-love-so-cute-cat-gif-292935567208914472

[fervent island]

Indeed, is weird, no one would have been wanted strelok become what ended being on HoC but according to the story of HoC, it has sense.
||Dalin: PDA Materials No. 4. Found among Shooter's audio diaries.||
||Shooter: I've never seen anything like this before. I don't fully understand its essence yet, but I feel that i should kept this artifact for myself, rather than go to sell it to averagetrader666. Fang and Ghost suddenly changed their attitude towards me; I became their leader. And something tells me it's not because I found this artifact, but because I possess it.||
||Doctor wasn't exactly happy about my find. He started studying it and muttering something about its suspicious psy-influence. He dislikes anything that he can't explain. He'd be better off training the monsters gathered around his hideout waiting to be healed.||
||I found it! I was already afraid that someone had cleaned out my stash. I shouldn't have hidden it! It could have come in handy. Now, I won't give it to anyone. I know what the Zone needs, and it will help achieve the goal.||

[heavy creek]

Really interested with what weapons we're gonna see when cost of hope comes
That and how weapon attachments will work
So far it seems the SKS, HK433, fort 230, and some kind of G3 variant

Weapon variety and furthering the sandbox in all for but honestly I feel there needs to be more of the "ubiquitous" weapons put in first like M4A1, M16A4, AKM, RPD, RPK

There may be more weapons that come in that weren't even shown in the trailer as well so really we're gonna have to see

[astral otter]

Do you do anything other than spam cat gifs?

[vernal lily]

nowadays that's what I usually do here

[steady solar]

Anyone played the Zone Unchained mod by Greshnyy?

[frigid axle]

it's very unstable for me so i always use the Debug start mod to make a customized playthrough, but maybe if you don't add too much mods on top of unchained zone maybe it will not crash

[marble gyro]

Is stalker 2 worth buying

[heavy creek]

Wait for cost of hope release

[robust pendant]

You havent bought it yet?

[heavy creek]

It's ok to buy now and play but if I was you I would wait for cost of hope to come out

[latent roost]

[main jewel]

noo

[main jewel]

noo

[main jewel]

noo

ive done too many full playthroughs to care

[robust pendant]

Also, just checking on this.
And well, yeah, I guess that it does make some kind of sense

Generally I would've write it off as HoC fan-fiction but it does make some sense considering the artifact cinematic he has in SoC. Still weird but better than expected

[random ermine]

I have the ultimate edition for Stalker 2 and not all of the Journalist stashes have spawned in, what’s wrong? I have the Backpacks mod

[long kettle]

@hybrid spoke hows it been

[main jewel]

well i mean.. there are 2 that are missing if you havent preordered the game

for the veteran vss and the tourist suit

[marble gyro]

Journalist stashes are tied with player progression

[random ermine]

Ah that’s 2 of them missing, doesn’t explain the other 2 though-

[random ermine]

Needle in a haystack? Yeah i finished that, I’ve gotten 4 so far

[marble gyro]

If you want

You dont need the quest

You can just search the locations

Unless it's the pre order stashes then those are a lost cause

There are like 10 stashes you can find

And a secret 11th one

Which only shows up if you found all the other stashes available to you

[random ermine]

Yeah that’s fair, I’ll do a little extra digging to see if it’s actually bugged, but otherwise appreciate the help

[marble gyro]

To my understanding, the stashes itself are not bugged, but the quest is

But like I said earlier, you dont need the quest to unlock the stashes, you can just get them as long as you have the deluxe or ultimate edition

And you know the exact location

[random ermine]

Oh, wonderful, appreciate it

[bold smelt]

[quiet wharf]

Does OXA work with latest?

[fervent island]

Also, a bit of that makes me remember NLC 7😔

[golden gulch]

Cat Of Hope

[weary geode]

need help :< stalker 2, no one leaves unsatisfied , granite squad room

how :<

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/mha-discord-role-yellow-role-yellow-gif-6714432879983458885

[marble gyro]

Granite squadroom eh?

[weary geode]

aaasplease....please help..

its such an ass fight

i wanna finish my playthrough aand get on with mods T-T

[marble gyro]

Hide and throw grenades

[weary geode]

im trying that T-T

all 5 guass guns keep railing me within a second

[marble gyro]

Could also lower the difficulty

[weary geode]

im only on stalker T-T

jesus finally :<

[marble gyro]

Congratulations

[weary geode]

i wonder if skif ever left? after the ending where strelock is put in the pod

cant help but wonder iff i got the iffy ending

[fickle hill]

I am sure he grabbed a shovel and started digging his way out

[vernal lily]

That ending is where no one can leave or enter

But also yes, he probably started digging his way out

[weary geode]

damn so hes just stuck in there

[vernal lily]

yeah

[hardy totem]

Doesn't everyone get kicked out?

[fickle hill]

No it's no one can leave and no one can enter

[vernal lily]

Not really, everyone who's already in the Zone is just stuck in there

[fickle hill]

Essentially killing sido from the bottom up

[vernal lily]

He ain't surviving a day without a chicken leg

[fickle hill]

Surely he put a giant space bubble somewhere in that bunker of his

[weary geode]

i thought i remember seeing this.. does anyone know the name of the mod where you can "make your own start" in the zone?

[hardy totem]

Hmm, I think both Skiff and Strelok endings leave a lot of room for interpretation and speculation

[river flume]

New Game Start

[visual mortar]

Hudson

like

holy shit

Jason?

[meager crag]

Tberium

Possible C&C fan spotted

Possible Chad spotted

[visual mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-hudson-gif-23863159

[blazing ingot]

Insert Kane dancing

-# ⓘ Signed • 𝓜𝓸𝓷𝓼𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓘𝓷 𝓐 𝓓𝓻𝓪𝔀𝓮𝓻 👑⁨

[vapid galleon]

hello stalkers

ⓘ Signed • Conqueror 👑

[proven hollow]

GSC better start releasing some info or i'm un-handsoming all these mods

[vapid galleon]

GSC doesn't care us lil bro didn't you still uderstand this

[dreamy dagger]

Buncha lies

[proven hollow]

i'll go to prague and egg their offices

[dreamy dagger]

GSC itself cares, the management part doesn't

[vapid galleon]

I willl throw toy bear from street to their office

[dreamy dagger]

You're going too far

People are gettng banned for far simplier things

[blazing ingot]

Stalker 2 is now -30% off on all platforms.

-# ⓘ Signed • 𝓜𝓸𝓷𝓼𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓘𝓷 𝓐 𝓓𝓻𝓪𝔀𝓮𝓻 👑⁨

[vapid galleon]

😯

[proven hollow]

I will throw @dreamy dagger into their offices

[dreamy dagger]

So I will be playing exclusive content and you'll be outside camping in a tent

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171602505382236231/1300554010050301962/itstommylove_not_a_paradise_its_the_subtle_details_man_2_3.gif

Ima explore CNPP and you'll be eating your burger and drinking soda outside, man

https://tenor.com/view/kewk-bassface-speaker-sub-subwoofer-gif-14956099

[proven hollow]

you'll be talking their ears of until they can't hear anyone anymore

[dreamy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hue-gif-9993265

[main jewel]

if you put ( -# ) infront of the message without the parentheses you can make it just like that monster guy

[proven hollow]

lexa simping for a monster in her drawer now 😩

[vapid galleon]

thanks lil sister

-# ⓘ Signed • Conqueror 👑

[main jewel]

gsc proceeds to delay a game only for it to have a shit launch, pull out a road map and not complete it, then to refuse to communicate to us about anything dlc related.. which after everything we definitely deserve clear communication from these guys

[proven hollow]

GSC will never change tho

[main jewel]

the dlc has a 80% chance of being delayed too

[main jewel]

its grim

[proven hollow]

I'd be more surprised if it was a smooth, relatively bug free release

honestly, that'd shock me

and that's not to be negative, that's simply looking at their track record so far

[main jewel]

bug free release doesnt line up with gsc standards…

[dreamy dagger]

We don't have a monster in a drawer

[main jewel]

dude

[dreamy dagger]

He isn't here

[proven hollow]

i'll put you in a drawer

[main jewel]

even the cossacks series had major bugs on release

cossacks 3 was genuinely fried

its like they put the current a life bugs right now onto your units bro

they wouldnt walk ANYWHWEEE

[dreamy dagger]

Cossacks 3 is a joke compared to 1 - visually its wonderful but technically... far worse

[main jewel]

or they would just stop attacking

they got tired and fell asleep mid battle

[main jewel]

hes right guys

[dreamy dagger]

The sole fact the game was outsourced development.... says it all

[main jewel]

boiled bubblegum

[proven hollow]

thank you for this

[dreamy dagger]

I'm afraid to reinstall C3 as I know they never added the promised 18 century units back

[vapid galleon]

[main jewel]

but erm as a community gsc genuinely needs to give us the communication we deserve after many treacherous releases

[vapid galleon]

erm

[main jewel]

erm

[proven hollow]

I'm quite sure there's just a big management issues at GSC, their own internal deadlines, expectations, and knowledge of their capacity just seems crooked

[main jewel]

pov when my entire workforce decides to stop what they are doing to build a single structure and proceeds to sleep on the battlefield

worst 20 bucks ive ever spent……

[vapid galleon]

🤔 what

[dreamy dagger]

Nobody could say it better. Spot on description of the internal situation.

[main jewel]

if i was gscs management id be singing like a sailor about everything trust

[main jewel]

cossacks 3 bugs

[dreamy dagger]

However you guys forget something among all the details

[proven hollow]

well, we all know how office cultures can be

or maybe you don't... i know...

[main jewel]

it was only okay tho cause while your guys where doing nothing and forgot how to fight the enemies likely did the same

[dreamy dagger]

Management issues comes with leadership issues. So its the Griga brother who also is to blame.

[main jewel]

erm

ive never worked in a office but i bet its pretty bad and stressful

[proven hollow]

you're an egg, you only know how refrigerator culture is

[proven hollow]

it's mostly just dumb useless drama and ego's conflicting

[main jewel]

if i was an office gsc management manager id have the whole office under control

https://tenor.com/view/kept-under-control-gif-3197254853617936648

[dreamy dagger]

Man, if only we had proper communication... honesty... proper post-release marketing... game would've skyrocketed 6 months past its launch, and look where we're at now - a year and a half and things are yet to get good...

In a world of AI where everything can be manipulated in the click of a finger... WE ALL NEED HONESTY, man...

[main jewel]

the only thing keeping this game alive is mol1ts pings and the people being mad and expressing it because of the refusal of communication

[dreamy dagger]

You are very well right

[main jewel]

only McCulkin can save us

[dreamy dagger]

Molit singlehandedly running business these days

[main jewel]

wheres all the McCulkin glazers in the chat

[proven hollow]

the worst part about no communication and repeated failed/broken deliveries is that people no longer believe they don't "want" to communicate, but that they "can't" communicate anything because their affairs aren't in order, plenty of games have monthly or quarterly blogs on what's going on etc

[main jewel]

if your the real McCulkin pleasw stand up

[dreamy dagger]

McAuley Culkin don't do no STALKER, my boy

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/lewisauu-gif-14619640480469457782

[dreamy dagger]

Wait wait, wait for a bit, hold it right there dude

[main jewel]

we have yearly pigeon letters

[dreamy dagger]

McCulkin = McAuley Culkin. Is McCulkin a Home Alone fan?!??!?!?!

[main jewel]

how could you not be a home alone fan though aint it a classic

[dreamy dagger]

Also what is up with him, haven't seen him talk here for years?

[dreamy dagger]

I usually am not home alone, can't know

[proven hollow]

i liked Trump in home alone

[main jewel]

the big Culk types in the mod chat every few months

[dreamy dagger]

Imagine, being a movie star in the past and now you're literally an E-files icon

[main jewel]

hes right guys

but also

[proven hollow]

maybe discussing US politics in this channel will rile up the GSC crew enough to release info just to get us to shut up?

[dreamy dagger]

Das the spirit, lol

What if we all get banned first then they get communications back to normal?

[main jewel]

erm its against the fwiggin wules to type and say epstein and diddy and the other ones cause they are erm controversial characters in politics and did heinous evil acts and poltics is also against the rules

even tho erm

[dreamy dagger]

Is it? Since when? WHAT?

[main jewel]

theres one big political discussion a week

[main jewel]

erm ive seen a few of th senior guys tell people to not mention the big e or the big yahu

[dreamy dagger]

Aight, I'ma edit out

[vapid galleon]

erm

[dreamy dagger]

You do too 😄