☢┃stalker-general

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Ight

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yea

I READ THE HANDBOOKKK

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🌩️ 🌩️ 🌩️

oh btw the hk33 is more like a stg 45

who even designed this thing

[charred nova]

Looks prototype as heck

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cause

heh

funny you say that

[charred nova]

Yah cus it be

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cause it is a protoype

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_510

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all thats different is that it was made at the end of the war for the unified forces of an army i cant say

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Apparently this is based on that gun

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and it fired a dumb cartridge

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7.92x33

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noo the stg 45 fired 7.92x33mm kurz intermediate

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I love how the wiki page for 7.92x33 says it’s still in service

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who the hell decided 7.92x33mm was a good idea

[charred nova]

Because likely of the Russia Ukraine war

Where it’s allegedly still being used

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not necessarily

[charred nova]

Fucking modern war with nearly 100 year old ammo

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its mainly used for

sporrttttt

[charred nova]

Well it’s not made anymore

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like the x57mm

or private security

[charred nova]

7.92x57 is actually a good round though

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tell that too Prvi Partizan

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Fired by guns not worth a quarter million dollars

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as i believe they make them

yeah

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Damn

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why are they making this

[charred nova]

Well if I ever find my self with a stg44 at least I can shoot it

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25 bucks a pop

[charred nova]

Per 20 rounds

Or per round

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per 20 or how ever much they fit in it

the box

oh yeah 20

[charred nova]

Can’t imagine they sell many of those lol

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80 cents

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sporting events

Prvi Partizan has sporting events i think

[charred nova]

I’m surprised you can get it though considering things like old Austrian round nose cartridges are completely unobtainable

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and i believe some people buy it just to be able to shoot a stg 44

like gun ranges

that allow that

[dusky pawn]

I dont think adding allegedly makes sense
You can find nagants, maxims and tt's alongside HK riffles or even the revolving grenade launchers

And you can probably find a photo of something that shoots this rather easily

[charred nova]

Im sure its just funny

To fight a war with a gun so valuable you could use it to buy 50 or more modern fire arms

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well bro probably said allegedly cause jack was probably sure 7.92 didnt even exist in the outside area at all

7.92x33

[dusky pawn]

Outside area ?

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but hey

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armory museums

im sure they have that

[charred nova]

Like it’s so strange yah know

Like mosin make sense

The ammo for those is still readily available

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i believe the aimpoint hq has the first ever aimpoint sight created and the one stamped with “1” laying around

[charred nova]

The ammo for the stg is extremely uncommon and hard to come by so it’s pretty crazy to be using it in a real war

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well someone still makes it

for some odd reasons

[charred nova]

It would be like fighting with a fedorav

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PPU that makes the ammo is in serbia

[charred nova]

Good luck finding ammo for that

Not like you can’t but

Your not just gonna find it laying around in a war zone

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fedorov avtomat??

[dusky pawn]

I googled the mp40 and stg44
Both were used both in donbass

[charred nova]

Yah

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im sure you can find 6.5x50mm

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oh well woohoo

i wonder if they get to keep them

[charred nova]

Well yah but not gonna be easy to find

[main jewel]

but conflgrats

knowledge has been obtained

[dusky pawn]

Its probably their personal illegal guns to begin with

Im sure you could even find something like this in some grandpa's attic in Poland

With a bucket of ammo swimming in cosmoline lol

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tell that to Prvi Partizan again, norma, steinel ammunition

50 bucks for 20 rnds

from steinel

[dusky pawn]

I mean honestly
Its not like making old ammo is some crazy hard tech there is just little demand

[charred nova]

I mean I can’t find a modern video of someone shooting a fedorav

Everyone’s too scared of breaking them

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oh norma cancelled 6.5x50mm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866798898197823489/1407880272539684896/pingas.gif

[marble gyro]

Feels like someone socked me in the jaw

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well they are rare

why do you say rav instead of rov

[charred nova]

Idk how it’s spelled

Fedorov

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i wonder if anyone has this version

[charred nova]

It’s weird everyone’s so scared to shoot them

They seem to have worked by all accounts fairly well

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only like

3000 were produced bro

[charred nova]

Pretty sure it was more then that

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3200-3400 on google

made between

[dusky pawn]

This is correct

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1915

1925

theres probably like 20 left in the world

[dusky pawn]

Nah likely more

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maybe

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Ruskees love keeping piles of old stuff

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but most of them are in musuems and private collections

[charred nova]

Darn

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but alot were actually destroyed

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Or in some forgotten hangar in siberia like most ussr equipment

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few are still functioning

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me when i dig in a abandoned winter war camp and i find a gun worth how much my healthcare costs in a lifetime

its weird how some companies make ammo that is rare

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Bro you could probably just waltz into their aircraft storage 'facilities'

Look up geosat pics of the su47 its just sitting there

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im looking at all of PPU ammos

i see 7.62x25mm under the “defense” category

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oh woah

[charred nova]

I’d say 7.62x25 is less rare at least more than one gun used it

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dide

[dusky pawn]

Its really not rare

[charred nova]

Well no

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what the hell are even half of these

[charred nova]

They made millions and millions of rounds

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8x57 IRS???

[pseudo coral]

CHEEKI BREEEKKKIII

[charred nova]

It’s not rare

[dusky pawn]

Vietnam or some other east asian country even modernised tokarev's for service recently

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WHO MAKES THESE ANY WAYYY

WHYY

WHY DO THEY MAKE THESE

[pseudo coral]

8x56 MANLICKER

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7x64

bro

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Look down to the right

[charred nova]

That’s just slightly smaller 30.06

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IT'S SIZE OF ARGENTINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheeki breeki

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that was under the metric category

7.65

in the handgun category

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No 12.7x55 so sad

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well bro

theres like 10 categories

im not theree yet

[dusky pawn]

👽

Atleast looking you go through these takes the edge off

[charred nova]

Mega German anti tank round

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okay yea they dont have jt

[charred nova]

7.92x94

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yea noones making this now

i dunno man ppu is a weird company

[charred nova]

You could likely make it

If you got your hands on the brass

[main jewel]

hey guys

lets all create the

.35 supermann

[charred nova]

.17 incinerator

50bmg necked down to .17 wildcat

not a real round sadly

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who

who made that and why

it cant be any good

right?

steinel makes 8x22mm

[marble gyro]

Looking like a pencil tip

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they are in ohio

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true

[charred nova]

This round however is allegedly real

It’s really called 22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer

That’s what the gunsmith who made it really called it

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it’s experimental

[charred nova]

Would allegedly fire at nearly 5000 feet per second

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or it was

whoever made this is a burger

HEY GSC

GIVE US MORE AMMO TYPES

LIKE 7.62x39

[dusky pawn]

Its technically in game

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i wonder why gsc even removed 7.62x39 if they had the rpd model

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unusable

[dusky pawn]

I assume they scrapped it or want to add the akm alongside

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ragman still has a akm behind him

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Or they decided it makes 0 sense gameplay wise cause it would be a worse pkm

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go to rostok if you wanna see

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the ammo is cheaper

also a pkm i think is heavier

i mean duh it would be heavier

and more guns is always good

[charred nova]

We need some crazy meme bullet like that in stalker

Hit scan bullets

[hardy totem]

-# isn't that just the gauss rifle?

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that’s technically the gauss rifle

[charred nova]

Okay maybe

But that’s no fun

[shell flax]

Look up 700 BMG

[main jewel]

@charred nova the gauss mag is a battery attached to a 5.56 bullet (yes the bullet, without the casing)

mag

its a mag

for the singular bullet

no casings

just the singular bullet

[charred nova]

That makes sense

[hardy totem]

Is there a bullet in there though?

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or at leasy thats what i saw

[charred nova]

Except not really

Because lead isn’t very magnetic

Let’s just assume there iron 556 rounds

[shell flax]

Steel rounds are a thing

[hardy totem]

Ricochet-city

[charred nova]

Actually I’m retarded

[shell flax]

At that speed the bullet would either obliterate on contact before it ricochets or go through whatever it hit

[charred nova]

Lead is more conductive than iron or steel

[charred nova]

Though idk if they would be conductive enough

[main jewel]

they seem to be in a special casing

or something i dunno

[charred nova]

It looks like caseless ammo

[main jewel]

yeaa

maybe

but its the 5.56 bullet model most likley

[hardy totem]

I thought in lore descriptions gauss projectiles were only like, 2 mm

[main jewel]

you forgot this is stalker 2

[charred nova]

The ammo is likely made of copper or silver or something similar

Probably silver

[hardy totem]

So that's why there's no werewolves in stalker

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blood sucker is our werewolve..

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maybe

[charred nova]

Copper would probably flatten before leaving the barrel

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but its brown

[hardy totem]

Monolith the only thing protecting humanity from the werewolf plague

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brassy like

me seeing gsc’s inaccuracy with even sci fi guns

[charred nova]

It’s possible the gun just overcomes this by being crazy conductive

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[charred nova]

It runs on magic rocks so who knows

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[hardy totem]

Maybe it's falsely advertised, using gravitational artifacts instead of magnets

[charred nova]

We’d need to know exactly how much electricity the flash artifact could emit

[hardy totem]

Gravitational artifact railgun

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maybe its just a fallout gun

[charred nova]

Combine them together

For even higher exit velocity

[main jewel]

oh uh guys i think we found something

fallout 2

erm

pretty similarrrr

[charred nova]

Technical there all coil guns

Which is the inferior electric gun design

Rail guns are way better

[hardy totem]

Yeeeeeah, magnets artifacts and a secret ingredient

-# a shitload of gunpowder

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gee ess sea

ouuugghhh

what are your secrets

[charred nova]

Video of navy 2008 railgun test

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why is the pgo 7v in the game but unusable

[charred nova]

If the gause rifle is as powerful as it seems should be able to puncture concrete walls

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2 CUTTT CONTENT…. gsc does this to piss me the frick off…….

my fingers TINGLE seeing what i couldve had…

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Goodnight stalkers

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@charred nova oh yuh thisbis behind boleros thing

look at that grip

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nini

[charred nova]

It’s like pistol grip style kinda

[shell flax]

The Gauss rifle would also absolutely brutalize your hearing irl

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i wish we couldve used the m26 mass like a shotgun too

pow

[charred nova]

Well yah it could shoot at over 4x the speed of sound

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also why is it semi auto in stalker 2

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the monolith dont need to hear

its all in their head

[shell flax]

What else would it be? Falling block?

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the chargin handle bucko

[charred nova]

Fire it near someone’s head and give them brain damage

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you shoot once

then you gotta charge it again

like a BUM

[shell flax]

I thought you meant the gauss gun I won’t lie

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oh no

the gauss isnt necessarily a semi auto

as it charges up

imagine a falling block gauss tho

[charred nova]

Did you know the technology to make a real Gauss rifle recently came into existence

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yuh

basic knowledge

not even ball

[charred nova]

Some company found out how to make graphene super capacitors

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they will die soon

[shell flax]

It’s been tested before

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i can smell it

[charred nova]

They are already making them

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oh they passed the cia vibe check

[charred nova]

But it solves the first issue with the tech

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or anyones vibe check

[charred nova]

The instant discharge rate

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https://tenor.com/view/agnes-digital-yuri-air-shakur-agnes-umamusume-gif-1156486552498502354

why doesnt s2 have a susat

[charred nova]

Allowing you to on paper dump enough energy to go super sonic

[shell flax]

Gauss guns likely won’t ever be an infantry gun though, get a TBI just firing it

[charred nova]

In hand held device

[charred nova]

Not to mention how dangerous it would be

[shell flax]

Blow up like a 40K plasma gun lmao

[charred nova]

You’d be holding enough electricity to kill over 100 adult males instantly

[shell flax]

God rolls a D20 to see if you just detonate

[charred nova]

But that sound

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dude

what if

like

the iranian government gets ahold of this tech

or china bro

TEMU GAUSS GUNS

ALIBABA GAUSS CANNON

[charred nova]

Iran is not to worry about

[shell flax]

Hell getting hit by a simple powerline can decimate you, you holding that Gauss rifle might genuinely blow your arms to meat dust from the sheer electricity

[charred nova]

There currently collapsing

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oh i didnt know

i just like their goofy shitty cars

and motorcycles

[charred nova]

Now imagine the other guy

Literally be vaporized

[shell flax]

You mean the cloud of superheated mist?

[main jewel]

i mean hello guy

[charred nova]

Put exploding rounds in the rails

[shell flax]

Hell imagine watching your buddy get evaporated & then his misty remains burns the shit out of you

[charred nova]

And the sound

Even from a mile away you’d still hear it

Like the might of god had come to smite you

[shell flax]

Granted the operator is also very dead so

[charred nova]

Little goober car

[charred nova]

Depends

Would a railgun have recoil

[main jewel]

with enough rubber you can do anything

that should be a condom commercial actually

or a slogan

[main jewel]

itches my skull

i think

[shell flax]

Yes, because of Newton’s third law. It’ll either be manageable or even worse then a normal rifle

[main jewel]

i mean

[charred nova]

But it’s not pushing backwards

It’s accelerating a rail forwards

[main jewel]

with the law of conservation of momentum your so cooked

[shell flax]

Recoil isn’t just backwards

Horizontal, vertical etc

[charred nova]

What would happen if you fired it in a metal surface

[main jewel]

well if the projectile goes forward the mechanism must go back

[shell flax]

You fecking die

[main jewel]

or in which ever direction

[charred nova]

Literally rip the floor panels out

Now that’s power

[main jewel]

imagine firing it

in like

a big ol power station

imagine all the destruction

one exposed wire

[charred nova]

I hope someone makes this device

[shell flax]

In all seriousness it’d probably be a piece of deployed gear, like a mortar or mg emplacement

[charred nova]

We have the power

[main jewel]

definitely a bomb

its going to be a bomb

[charred nova]

Well it could be used from any range

Deploy on a hill and delete some guy from 2 miles away

[main jewel]

theres gunna be a energy bomb trust

[charred nova]

Would be like using 20mm rounds on humans

[main jewel]

also a gauss mg placement would sound like death

[shell flax]

It’d also need to be a solo unit probably, a spotter is no good if his brain explodes while he tries to direct you

[main jewel]

true

you are your own spotter

[charred nova]

Tell bro to leave his watch at home

Else he’ll lose his wrist

[shell flax]

Imagine people with metal implants

[main jewel]

ntw 20

[charred nova]

There is a speed limit though keep in mind

[main jewel]

people with metal knee sockets are so cooked

[shell flax]

Big ass waiver & medical exam required to make sure you have nothing metal inside you before you are even considered to look at it

[charred nova]

Mach 4 really as fast as you can realistically go

[main jewel]

would you have to wear a thick rubber suit to fire it

[shell flax]

You’d still get brutalized from the sonic boom

[charred nova]

Wear big noise cancelling headphones

[shell flax]

Hell you honestly might just get deep fried if you wore one

Wear plate mail

[main jewel]

einsteins theory or relativity i think and other random equations theorize things that can go beyond speeds of light and sound so maybe we could have some crazy stuff be achieved… or maybe im just stupid

[shell flax]

I really should be fixing my schedule cause I start a morning shift tomorrow but screw itv

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-digital-yuri-air-shakur-agnes-umamusume-gif-1156486552498502354

oh also

[charred nova]

I mean past mach 4 reliability becomes an issue

[main jewel]

scientists a month ago teleported a single photon successfully

i dont like how fast we are advancing

can we put a pause on this

its making my brain hurt

[charred nova]

I want hand held death cannon

[main jewel]

uh

uh

a hammer with a nail on it

plus the biggest round you can find

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-digital-yuri-air-shakur-agnes-umamusume-gif-1156486552498502354

[charred nova]

True

[main jewel]

death to you and maybe the recipient

[shell flax]

That’s a grenade, not a gun

[main jewel]

put a barrel on it then

[shell flax]

Still a grenade

[main jewel]

men used to go to war, now they call me mommy realist statement ever

[main jewel]

i guess bro

[sharp sierra]

Got to love stalker kills chimera with the dying guy... points out he could probably find a cure in the zone... so I head back to Gonta but some how the guy gets ahead of me how do I know this well I got a mission to pick up his pda... bet he ran into an anomaly! Just a suggestion GSC give him AP rounds an upgrades jacket and an upgraded 416!

[main jewel]

is this guy ai

just kiddin

[eternal cosmos]

Still no announcement...

[proven hollow]

another day without stalker mp what even is the point anymore

[main jewel]

mp is buns

[proven hollow]

you're buns!

[main jewel]

im a burger

but enjoy your arena experience

[proven hollow]

you're the pickle picky eaters pick off

[main jewel]

cause co op might not ever happen

[proven hollow]

eww co-op

[main jewel]

your a intel core i3

[proven hollow]

you're ram at the current prices, way too high with no one interested in you!

except for ai companies i suppose...

[main jewel]

im not a clanker

like u

[dusky pawn]

I wish I was high rn ngl

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-kissing-turning-turning-around-surprised-gif-10954422701417471537

[proven hollow]

eww another druggie, quick, make him a mod

[marble gyro]

Woke up, got a notification

[dusky pawn]

Instead im just mildly anxious after an annoying exam

[main jewel]

turn them off and go to bed

[marble gyro]

Turns out I bought a switch 2 in my sleep

[main jewel]

no you didnt

[dusky pawn]

I said I wish I dont have any and never have taken anything interesting

[proven hollow]

advanced sleepwalking

[marble gyro]

Lmao 500 down the drain

[proven hollow]

druggie cope

[dusky pawn]

Again
I wish

[main jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-gotoh-hitori-turn-around-stare-gif-8851556409539617853

goodnight guys

[proven hollow]

it is literally morning

[dusky pawn]

Bye na creature

[proven hollow]

i don't acknowledge US timezones

[marble gyro]

Wonder what else I'll buy in my sleep?

Ah, cest la vie

[hardy totem]

Earth is flat, timezones are a lie

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/544757291682103300/1367224622529122325/mood.gif

[main jewel]

technically if the earth was flat timezones would still somewhat exist

everyone would just have more light or somethinf

[hardy totem]

Light doesn't exist

[main jewel]

if you feel a little tickle on your leg

thats me

you better watch your bavk

back

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-judging-james-franco-gif-14810786

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-14525171131594481514

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[proven hollow]

tasty cats

[copper radish]

So. Many. Cats.

[vapid galleon]

🤓

[vernal lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376383581387227170/1423938032389722212/gato_agua.gif

[proven hollow]

wet pussy

[golden gulch]

Patch 1.9 when? Please

[feral sigil]

hello

[feral sigil]

we also need binoculars bro

[tepid pulsar]

Poor cat

[carmine star]

anyone else getting bad mutant spawns, like barely any are spawning for me

[spare canopy]

How art thou

[foggy olive]

Tomorrow all would be tomorrow

[copper radish]

So current_day + 1?

[feral sigil]

hellooo there whats goodie xD

[river temple]

Good morning stalkers

[vapid galleon]

int update_date(void)
{
  int current_day = get_date();
  int tomorrow = current_day + 1;
  while(current_day != tomorrow)
  {
    current_day++;
    tomorrow++;
  }
  int release_date = current_day;
  return release_date;
}

[river temple]

how are all ?

[golden gulch]

I need 1.9
That's how I am

[river temple]

what ?

I think i dont understand

[feral gust]

at least they should release hotfix, so many bugs

[feral sigil]

he means new update for the game

[river temple]

oh

okey thanks

[feral sigil]

np

[river temple]

Im freeze

[proven hollow]

truly nothing ever happens

[hardy totem]

C'mon man...

[tepid pulsar]

Gangsters laws in gangsters country

Certified bandit classic

[vapid galleon]

C'Con man ? wdym

[hardy totem]

Don't be mean to cats

They already lead such difficult lives

Never getting enough food

Never being where they want to be(the other side of the door)

Hating 70% of the earth's surface

[vernal lily]

I love cats

[slim wagon]

story of my life... worst decision i made was to have them use door bells on both sides of the door.
now am at door man service 24/7

[dreamy dagger]

Day 426 and the radio is about dead...

[slim wagon]

just hope that strelok will reach the wishgranter and ask for the UE upgrade

[vernal lily]

Bastet will curse those who hurt them

[vernal lily]

But will the wish granter actually grant said wish, or something that may seem like what was wished for

[slim wagon]

something is better than nothing in the zone

[vernal lily]

I guess something is better than nothing, even if it's just an imagination

[hardy totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208247235610148864/1463132686699860030/tcgO-N17GGi6ghm6bDNyO1z8fkcA7nHlRD6SiEyoItM.gif

[feral gust]

ue 5 upgrade in roadmap for 2027 😄

[vernal lily]

My bird as soon as it's time to wake up in the morning

[iron wind]

mol1t still on holidays? we could use some roadmap

[vernal lily]

Let the man cook

[feral gust]

we could use patch to fix all the bugs and hyperspawns and crashes but as always, nothing

[dusky pawn]

They crave taurine

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/sunset-penguin-gif-21369096

[dusky pawn]

Cats are fun honestly

Horses on the other hand

Absolutely vile creatures

[proven hollow]

they're all very tasty

[hardy totem]

Except when they're reckless and break their shit, requiring an operation...

[vernal lily]

Humans are the vile ones

[dusky pawn]

Idk how horses taste but probably like beef so im cool with that

[copper radish]

That thing in the corner looks so much like a penguin that I've decided it is a penguin

[proven hollow]

humans are great, love those guys

[dusky pawn]

I mean if a horse does that it might just be gg idk which one is worse

[dusky pawn]

Lowkey if we were more like bonobos and less like chimps the world would be a better place

But horses and turkeys are just sad cursed creatures

[proven hollow]

speaking from experience?

[dusky pawn]

However horses are very good to teach plumbers how NOT TO do their job lmao

[dusky pawn]

On horses yes on turkeys im echoing the common sentiment among my professors and also base it on some info I have on them

[copper radish]

I mean just look at a turkey. Just look at it. Does it grab you as a happy animal?

[dusky pawn]

Yeah

They also need a flat surface of water to not die of dehydration

As in if you setup a water line where water drips (like in chicken farms) they will just die

[vapid galleon]

when I was a child, I used to catch cats that came to explore the newly built park far from my house and do things to them. How stupid I was...

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/finchozombies-rust-finch-bird-skateboard-gif-25629996

[dusky pawn]

'Do things to them'
Being vague makes it worse bro

[hardy totem]

Excuse me wtf?

[vernal lily]

Bastet will never forgive this man

[slow crypt]

🗿

[vapid galleon]

I regret it man 😔 I was a stupid kid back then

[marble gyro]

Goodmorning

[stark willow]

No good morning for freedomers

[vernal lily]

I was about to ask, chat is it too late to go to sleep right now (7 am) when I haven't slept yet

[dusky pawn]

Its fine dude youve changed your ways

[stark willow]

Them weed bois

[copper radish]

Depends entirely on your plans/obligations for the day, but it's never too late to go to sleep

God I hate onscreen keyboards with every single cell in my body

[vernal lily]

Perhaps I will try to sleep, although not too worried since I don't work today

A lot on my mind lately, it's making it difficult to sleep

[cobalt fiber]

Very nice of you to say

But I still think someone who did shit to animals is a lifelong prick

[harsh jungle]

fr

[dusky pawn]

I mean if he killed animals thats bad but he probably means something pretty innocent

[slow crypt]

I decided to wake up early, but after reading the above, I wish I had stayed asleep.

[dusky pawn]

I myself trimmed one of my cat's whisker's cause I thought thats a thing you do
I was like 5 ?

[cobalt fiber]

You don’t regret innocent actions

[marble gyro]

Don't you got a non existent rock to worship?

[dusky pawn]

Whatever he did is probably not as bad as my proffesor who sedated frogs with barbiturates and amputated small parts of their liver in high school

[slow crypt]

typical class in the balcans

[dusky pawn]

Average commie poland story

Btw he got the drugs from his school cause there were vials of it in the chem class and the teacher really liked him so he just let him use the supplies sometimes
He obviously had no idea whats inside lmao

[cobalt fiber]

I wouldn’t be so quick to blindly defend someone who’s just told a server of 100,000 strangers that he “did things to cats”

[dusky pawn]

Yeah he didnt help himself with the phrasing

[shrewd badger]

Guys does someone of you have experience with windows 11 update causing stalker 2 crash? and uninstalling repaired problem?

[slow crypt]

I still don't understand why anyone would say something like that on Discord

[dusky pawn]

Some edge some genuine guilt

[slow crypt]

Not Windows, but Nvidia drivers update yes.

[dusky pawn]

Pretty easy to understand
Tho maybe it is odd its THIS server

[slow crypt]

This server is full of rage baiters like me, armchair geopolitical experts, and loyal followers of Anomaly. Clearly not the right place

[dusky pawn]

Omg thank u for mentioning me

[vernal lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773300111186460693/773301353903816754/image0.gif

[slow crypt]

👴 🦽 🐎

[proven hollow]

i do things to cats all day

[visual mortar]

"when i was a child". what like two years ago?

[marble gyro]

Jarvis, castrate this man

[vernal lily]

Jarvis, please knock me out so I can sleep and not have to read this chat

[proven hollow]

you want a video of me doing something to a cat?

[visual mortar]

shut the fuck up man

[vernal lily]

What even is going on here anymore

[proven hollow]

now you've done it i booped him

#🐺┃pets message

[sage star]

It would probably be really broken but what if the spitfire came chambered in 7.62x39 since in the original game it had a much more curved magazine during cutscenes

[carmine star]

Jarvis, get me some blood sucker bussy

[proven hollow]

smexy

[still current]

snorking is at least 3 days mute

Learned the hard way I see

[copper radish]

Can we maybe go back to you lads explaining to me what that giant bubble is in the Red Forest?

Is it just for... decoration? Or it serves some purpose?

I'm carrying two liquid rocks and still can't get close to it

[maiden prairie]

You want spoilers?

[copper radish]

No

[maiden prairie]

So don't ask about the bubble anymore.

[copper radish]

Sound

[cobalt fiber]

[vernal lily]

giant bubble?

[maiden prairie]

A huge half of the orb in the dried lake next to the bridge.

[hybrid tangle]

why am I getting constant psi radiation, it's only in one of my save.

[spare canopy]

I found me a Nightstar, and I have only got as far the mission to go Scar at the mill 😄

[maiden prairie]

Save corrupted or psi artifact.

[vernal lily]

I am only aware of the ball anomaly in malachite

I guess I haven't explored red forest enough, or this is new

[vernal lily]

oh

That I know

[maiden prairie]

It's huge, everyone who visited the red forest probably saw it.

[marble gyro]

You would have to be blind to not see this

[vernal lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561153910891347968/1459901683747262634/RDT_20260111_142158636608522737034575.gif

[copper radish]

Not sure if bug, but I got close to a place where I was getting psi'd, and even running far away didn't get rid of the effect (ghost soldiers floating at me and all) - but the moment I popped a Psi-Block it went away

[hybrid tangle]

I think i know, because, you got heavy PSI, it drains overtime but not done yet, when you took PSI-Block, it effectively cleared the remaining.

[vernal lily]

hamster

[pastel bolt]

Do you guys think stalkers 2 vanilla A-life is good enough to not use mods for it yet or no

[vernal lily]

There's a life in this game

[pastel bolt]

I know but I heard people say it sucks so I got mods to enhance it

[kindred fable]

Define good. Maybe it's good enough for you

[vernal lily]

I honestly don't care about a life at this point

[kindred fable]

It's not good enough for me yet

[vernal lily]

I kind of put this game on the shelf and don't know when will be the next time I will play it tbh

[pastel bolt]

Not overly tuned npcs that can spot me crazily

[cobalt fiber]

The thing is with A Life is people compare it to the trilogy, but when you look at vanilla trilogy A Life, it really wasn’t as spectacular as its made out in these comparisons

[dusky pawn]

Wait npcs in og stalkers mostly stood still and didnt do the crazy ice skating peeking that they do in gamma ??? Whaaaat

[dusky pawn]

We already have that tho Ive played in dec and bushes are effective cover now 9/10

[vernal lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1238970017329189024/1302524795937755188/ezgif-7-5875e47d1e.gif

[kindred fable]

Combat AI is better, now they don't track you through walls and they can lose a sight of you (you can flank them and stuff). You can also hide in the bushes and stuff. I've heard about them being able to shoot you through walls and sometimes their aim is still too good (from what I heard) so yeah, maybe wait a little bit more

[dusky pawn]

And they still have trouble spotting you at 30m anyway

I hate this about stealth in games metro and other trash like that made everyone expect npcs to be blind past 10m

[pastel bolt]

Lmao all of that was happening after I disabled the mod npc combat overhaul, thanks for letting me know why those mercs were shooting at me while I was in a building 😂

[kindred fable]

It was pretty good if you combine all the functionality in one place (Like, let's say, Anomaly does it). If you look at each game as a separate game then yeah, each one of the original games was lacking

[pastel bolt]

Fs keeping my A life mods on then lol

[marble gyro]

DUDE THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING!!!

Like the A life that people cloud their judgment over is mainly Anomalies aditions

A life in stalker SOC hardly any, A life in cop the most out of the entire series

[kindred fable]

Not really. We had more than we have in S2 with AMK mod and AMK mod was possible only and only because we already had a system from original games that wasn't working perfectly but could be tweaked into something good

[kindred fable]

NPCs in CoP couldn't even move between locations

[cobalt fiber]

You’re comparing it to mods not vanilla

[proven hollow]

no amount of patching will get some people a life tbh

[dusky pawn]

Yeah cause they want the mystical non existant SOC promised A life

[kindred fable]

I am not comparing it to mods. What I'm trying to say is that original games had a working base that could become what we've got in modern mods. Stalker 2 didn't have anything like that base until 1.7, basically

[proven hollow]

honestly they should just implemented the original idea, have all npc's only have one task: solve the mystery of the zone, then the player will have to race them to finish the game before some rookie stalker from zallisya village runs off with the heart of chornobl

[kindred fable]

And yet again, almost 20 years have passed. It's okay to expect something better than original games and maybe even mods. It's A-Life 2.0, after all

[kindred fable]

At least I'm glad they didn't try to overpromise as much as they did in 2004-2006, lol

[proven hollow]

it's like nalartos has a bot scanning this channel for the word a-life

[kindred fable]

Nah, I rarely talk about it as of late, tbh

Mostly because I see that the devs made some progress and I'm pretty happy with it (although I want some more)

[still current]

More will be coming

[hardy totem]

Soon™

[kindred fable]

Now that's what I love to hear

[proven hollow]

as long as you testers make sure it's bug free

[still current]

I'm honestly satisfied with the pace now. Devs are definitely working pretty hard and I'm expecting real promising results soon.

Game should be significantly different in a good way by 2.0

[proven hollow]

but is it soon like engine update is soon or soon like faster than that soon

soon being the undetermined amount of time till tomorrow ad infinitum of course

[dusky pawn]

I dont think anyone would believe THAT cause it was outlandish

[still current]

I believe it's pretty soon. Mostly Q1~2

Not quite sure about next update, but the one after it should be it.

[proven hollow]

as in, should be a-life stuff or engine update?

nah that's too deep in nda territory

[still current]

We're definitely expecting some great progress coming up this year. engine upgrade will most definitely extend the bubble. I think it's a unanimous prediction among testers

[proven hollow]

yeah, that's almost a logical conclusion, the addition of binoculars would be an absolute nothingburger if some increase in online bubble wasn't shipped with it

[still current]

Would definitely be, but I don't have NDA info to share, so I'm exempted from that tnh

Tbh

Even though testing phase, we are not really under NDA, but rather under a moral one

[visual mortar]

they better add the elephant rifle this year

[kindred fable]

To be fair, there was a game called Space Rangers 2 where NPCs COULD beat the game... But it doesn't sound as epic when you understand that "beating the game" meant destroying the enemy faction completely without your input and that's all, not some kind of "doing your quests, making important choices in the story, affecting the world in a meaningful way". Guess original stalker games could have something similar to that. I dunno, imagine all the NPCs destroying monolith completely or something, lol

[still current]

Adding Binoculars is by default bubble extention. That's the most explicit way to say it through the dev channel to everyone without touching NDA

I'm 100% sure, personally

[proven hollow]

i'll just go to prague and ask them personally

what kind of beer do they like?

[still current]

Trust me, NDA rock is extra difficult to crack.

[hardy totem]

What's stopping you?

[still current]

I would personally fail to extract the smallest form of detail no matter how hard I try

Unless you are within the sign list of nda, nothing can be taken off anyone from gsc

[proven hollow]

not much tbh, it's a beautiful city, been there once but would love a repeat, if anything it's the weather and the fact i'm moving into my new house this weekend

[proven hollow]

that is entirely dependent on how drunk i can get 'm

[still current]

you think that'd work?

[proven hollow]

i have high hopes

@waxen marten what beer do you like best?

[waxen marten]

I am a non-drinker

[still current]

[proven hollow]

No worries, that just means he hasn't had the right beer yet

[marble gyro]

Beer kinda sucks

[cobalt fiber]

I’ve got a Montecristo with your name on it

[spare canopy]

Needs to pop to a pub near me... One the best pub in the UK several times... Ciders, the lot...

[proven hollow]

i've tasted what you british consider food and drink, i wouldn't wish that on anyone, and i'm saying that as a dutchman

[spare canopy]

you probably went to awful pubs with commerial larger etc... utter garbage stuff.

And this pub also imports, proper imports, beer and drink from around the world.

[proven hollow]

i can imagine why, next you're going to tell me guinness tastes good

[spare canopy]

Only in Ireland, not the English brewed garbage

[proven hollow]

it doesn't have any taste

it is the kind of beer that'd make you fall asleep if it were a movie

[spare canopy]

You had proper Irish Guiness?

[proven hollow]

yup, it was ridiculously underwhelming

[spare canopy]

It's okay, I prefer a real cider or pale ale... myself...

[marble gyro]

I prefer whiskey or bourbon

[cobalt fiber]

Cognac all the way

[stray citrus]

Tequila for me

[spare canopy]

I do like a good Cognac, Brandy

I like Port as well.

[cobalt fiber]

Also a good wine with meals

Red being the preference naturally

[spare canopy]

Depends on the meal... Red goes with red meats like steak and beef... Whites go well with chicken... Red meat has a stronger flavour so doesnt get over powered by the wine.

[proven hollow]

if you'd offer me i wouldn't say no, but i wouldn't ask for it

[cobalt fiber]

Yeah I never really eat poultry anymore tbh

Red meats with the occasional seafish dish

And one takeaway day off

[spare canopy]

so enemies can shoot through shard anomalies, and your bullets just pop.... f-ing great

[proven hollow]

they shouldn't be able to, but there is a mod that breaks it

not sure what it was called...

[spare canopy]

I only use better ballistics... that changes weapon stuff

[marble gyro]

Chardonnay

[proven hollow]

might've been it, not sure, otherwise it must be your skill issues again

[marble gyro]

With chicken is bomb

[cobalt fiber]

You know her too? What a slut!

[proven hollow]

who hasn't had chardonnay

[spare canopy]

I love my meats, especially pork belly. Lovely stuff...

[cobalt fiber]

Having lamb with homemade minted gravy tonight

[marble gyro]

Pork belly is just fattier bacon

[hardy totem]

I always though bacon was leaner pork belly

[marble gyro]

It is

[cobalt fiber]

This stuff is 👌

Been trying to cut out the red bulls

[spare canopy]

Love it.... Chips, beans, and something for me

[harsh jungle]

Honse

[spare canopy]

Where you get that?

[cobalt fiber]

Tesco mate

[spare canopy]

Never seen it... Sugar free?

[cobalt fiber]

Not completely but doesn’t have loads

Natural ingredients all around

[spare canopy]

Hmmm, got diabets, so more than likely liquid death to me

[cobalt fiber]

Horrible thing is diabetes

It’s ~6g carbs per can if that helps with that

About 4g of sugar

[spare canopy]

and I bet that is per 100ml... I think coke is about 3g per 100ml

[pseudo coral]

Is there a way to turn off notifications?

I know I signed up for show ''media'' but the whole time I'm thinking somebody is messaging me

[golden gulch]

Man

[ancient fractal]

How come enemies are easiest to kill on the hardest difficulty

[drifting bear]

If you are on a pc, simply right-click on the channel you want to mute -> notification settings -> nothing

[marble gyro]

They can kill you as fast as you kill them on higher difficulties

Probably I would assume it's like trilogy stalker difficulties where the damage scales depending on the set difficulty

[vernal lily]

fair and square

[marble gyro]

I honestly thought it was a placebo effect in making us believe that enemies die just as fast

Is there actual evidence that supports it? Because I'm going off of a theory here

[vernal lily]

Maybe you have the reaction notifications on? Seems to be added recently for me, I was wondering at first. Never gotten pings for when someone reacts to my comment before.

[golden gulch]

This is interesting
https://youtube.com/shorts/husTUtrztgc?si=o_LA8t-C5w_uDDBi

[pseudo coral]

@drifting bear @vernal lily Thx guys fixed it! Love ya

[copper radish]

Can confirm they can't do that in vanilla... Cheesed 5 Wards last night with it 😆

[drowsy bone]

Hola stalkers

[mossy scaffold]

When’s the next update

[copper radish]

Should be tomorrow™ 👀

[visual mortar]

or the day after that

or the day after that

[tender pond]

What’s up boys

[charred nova]

Considering we have not even started beta testing the update

No time soon

[copper radish]

Ah c'mon man we had this good thing going with "Tomorrow™" don't take it away from us 😢 😆

[cobalt fiber]

Tomorrow never comes

[marble gyro]

Update is next tomorrow

[copper radish]

If we consider "tomorrow" strictly only the days when updates come out, this year will probably only be 2-3 weeks long 🤣

[marble gyro]

A hotfix should come tho, for economy rebalance

I just want to sell all this 9x19 for at least 1 coupon instead of 0

[copper radish]

Lol I stopped picking them up
I know what you mean

Even random stalkers don't pay for it? Never tried

They love food, bandages/medkits and ammo usually

[harsh jungle]

I gotta play stalker 2 later

[copper radish]

Also, to reflect on yesterday's conversation: it's definitely the Ward that's mad at me... Malachite is full red 😆

[harsh jungle]

korshunov kicked my ahh and called me not very nice things

[copper radish]

Such a meanie

[harsh jungle]

he hates my guts apparently idk why

[copper radish]

Am I correct in my gut feeling that the 2 traders (the girl and the kid in the same room) in the Rostok bazaar pay the most for stuff?

I'm not finished with Banzai's questline yet, but Rascal is available as a trader, he claims I'm a VIP but he tries to rip me off 👀 so does the "above ground" barman in the fancy bar

[marsh iron]

rascal may rip you off but he made up for it ||by also buying red weapons|| so he's a bro

[copper radish]

Should I tap that spoiler? 😆

Yea nothing against Rascal, he's free to offer as much kupons as he wants, and I'm free to not bring my sht to him 😜

[marsh iron]

(I have nothing but love for my nk-5 bois )

[copper radish]

Rascal did make it up to me by giving me the key to that stash tho...

[bitter plover]

this is false. You did lower damage on higher difficulties in OGs. You did higher damage on lower difficulties. (120% or 100% of damage respectiviely)

[robust pendant]

Half true, as this only applies to Shadow of Chernobyl

In later games, damage you do is unaffected, only your own resistances

[bitter plover]

tru

[robust pendant]

As well as granade distance thrown by enemies and bosess health, but that last one is on clear sky only: #⭐┃trilogy-general message

[bitter plover]

i was just lazy to write it for each game and your way was pretty fast honestly

[robust pendant]

I see the future

[robust pendant]

Anyway, heres the chart

At least none of you said that you did more damage on master, for some reason theres people who still believe that myth

[marble gyro]

I just play master at a default difficulty

So I wouldn't know the difference

[vagrant pewter]

Tomorrow Never Dies

[cobalt fiber]

The Spy Who Shagged Me

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-5090756650443962254

[vagrant pewter]

I'm sorry, I thought you said ur name was a lot of ummm

[harsh jungle]

I gotta figure out what I want to doodle

[opaque cipher]

80-hour witcher 3 main quest to get the bad ending bruh

[dusky pawn]

How do you fumble that

Literally just be a good fun dad and thats it lmao

[sudden rapids]

festive honse

[harsh jungle]

I just saw this lol

I’m about to leave where I am and go home

[cyan sparrow]

Non of the W3 endings are bad, because the game is peak.

[plain fiber]

Hey all, how's it going?

[still current]

Going where?

[shell flax]

Getting stuff situated for the new job tomorrow

[still current]

Time to change your nick what shall it be?

[plain fiber]

Congrats!

[shell flax]

Surprise me

[still current]

Nah, it's your nick and it was changed for you. So, it's up to you to choose

[shell flax]

I’m just glad to get some money coming in again

[still current]

[shell flax]

Honestly I’ve never been good with nicknames so idk back to Leaper?

Well, aside from insulting my buddies lmao

[still current]

[marble gyro]

Fųcking love that movie

[shell flax]

Also I realized I’ve been in here over a year now god damn

[still current]

Leaper it is

[visual mortar]

larper

[still current]

Time leaps quite too much for you

[vernal lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208247235610148864/1463132686699860030/tcgO-N17GGi6ghm6bDNyO1z8fkcA7nHlRD6SiEyoItM.gif

[sudden rapids]

Me, waiting for 1.9

[vernal lily]

Me waiting for DS2 pc port

[proven hollow]

aight i want binoculars now or the snorks get it

[vernal lily]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[sudden rapids]

What's DS2

[sudden rapids]

snorks have implemented binos

[plain fiber]

I read it as Dark Souls II but that already has a PC version.

[cobalt fiber]

Death Stranding 2

[ruby gale]

My shoulders are in pain but there is work to be done

[hardy totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504592685428899851/1397342374618857583/pop_richter_glorp1.1.gif

[kindred fable]

Do you guys know if GSC is preparing something like a bigаss 2.0 update after 1.9 or will we continue having the usual 1.10, 1.11, etc. updates?

[kindred fable]

Should be on PC this summer. DS1 was released in 1 year after the console release

[cobalt fiber]

We don’t know

[wicked magnet]

In OLR, each stalker has their own goal in the Zone, after they achieve their goal, they leave the Zone(or die)

[slender lion]

Heyy, how many walktroughs are needed for all endings? With some backloads ofc, but not 40 hours back lol

Im starting to try to get all achievements

[cobalt fiber]

Save at Subtle Matter

That’s where you choose between Spark/Strelok/Kaymanov

If you save there you’re looking at roughly 10-20 hours to get all 3 endings

Depends if you rush it from there

[slender lion]

Thats option for 3 of 4 endings?

[cobalt fiber]

Dangerous Liasions is where you get a final last chance to go Ward

Which is after Subtle Matter

Dangerous Liasions in the next main mission after Subtle Mattee

Subtle Matter you’ll decide if to go Spark. From there you’ve got a few missions before the Strelok/Kaymanov choice

[slender lion]

Okay, im gonna look where am I xdd cuz i dont remember names of missions

[cobalt fiber]

So Subtle Matter is when you go to Orbita Station/X15

[slender lion]

XDD

[cobalt fiber]

Dangerous Liasions is immediately after that

[slender lion]

Exactly the mission before subtle matter

[cobalt fiber]

At the end of Dangerous Liasions you get one final shot to go Ward

And then The Last Wish is a very obvious choice later in the game

[slender lion]

So, from here i can do 3 endings, am i right?

[cobalt fiber]

When Strelok sends you to the Doc that’s when you’ll know it’s the one

Technically from Subtle Matter you can do all 4

The major choice there is Spark or not

It’s just that the very final decision if you go Strelok is not until very late game

[slender lion]

I was against ward in sircaa, that doesnt matter in the story?

[cobalt fiber]

Nah you get a last shot choice

The Strelok / Kaymanov choice is best done back to back

It’ll literally take you maybe 3/4 hours

[slender lion]

Oh nice, Okay, im gonna do save and continue in the story, thanks a lottt

[cobalt fiber]

I did everything but Ward cos I wanted Ward to be a case of a complete playthrough siding with them

But that’s just personal preference cos they have specific quests that are only available in a full Ward run

But yeah it won’t take long

After you’ve completed the game once your next ones from critical choice moments will be a rush to the finish line

And you’ll know what to expect

[proven hollow]

and there's the severe moral implications of siding with ward of course

[cobalt fiber]

The only thing is now they fixed the murder room with granite squad

[slender lion]

I want to do that three endings cuz i want to play second playtrough with ward

[cobalt fiber]

You used to be able to cheese it and take out granite before dropping into the room

You can’t do that anymore lmao

Also Scar fight used to have a cheese method

If you saved before the fight and then reloaded no enemies would spawn and you’d only have to fight Scar

Which was ideal for speed running alt endings

The rare time a bug is welcome lmao

[hardy totem]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-ill-tell-you-fiddler-on-the-roof-tevye-i-dont-know-gif-5923992

[stark willow]

No not really

I only worship the Monolith, which is very real

[violet dune]

ppl loves to worship brainwashed mentally ill people

[slate forge]

Hi guys, does anyone know how I can ensure that dynamic weather overhaul is actually functioning properly with PRZ mod? And I'm not seeing a mod help channel, am I just blind? Thanks! 🙂

Nevermind I'm blind, found it.

[kindred fable]

https://discord.com/channels/504587323577729024/1387353128268988519

[proven hollow]

ooh if i were a rich man...

[kindred fable]

Still haven't played OLR. I've heard sooo many things about that one, wonder how many of them are true (and how good they are on practice). Wonder if it's enjoyable gameplaywise or is it just a bunch of features for the sake of having them...

[ruby gale]

If i was a rich man no one would hear from me ever again

[shell flax]

If I was a rich man I’d be the number one customer at my LGS

[ruby gale]

Local gas station

[shell flax]

I’d rather kill myself then become a number one speedway customer

[ruby gale]

I got kwik star or caseys

[shell flax]

But nah, I’d be walking out of my gun store with a new toy every week

[ruby gale]

Itd be a mix of guns and cars

[shell flax]

My money for my car would be going to keeping my Buick going as long as possible

I’m just not a big car dude lmao

[ruby gale]

Fair enough

[shell flax]

Guns, gear & fishing though? Sign me up

[ruby gale]

Id get a 2011 caprice that im looking at recently, only 65k with a single owner

Only problem is parts are expensive for caprices since they're mainly cop cars with only a handful of civvy units

[shell flax]

Get a fat chunk of land out in the country with my buddies is another big one too if I was rich

[maiden apex]

Monolith are less of “brainwashed” and more of “mind controlled” the true brainwashed are agents of c-consciousness

[proven hollow]

it's the song

[ruby gale]

Eh, I prefer the man who sold the world

[maiden apex]

Actually you know what, in a way the Monolith are agents of c-con

[violet dune]

they are brainwashed by brain scorcher

via psi-emitters

to protect c-con

even if they brain controlled its still bad to worship

[pure canyon]

did something major change with stashes since like 1.5? Im on a new game and quite a few quests into the lesser zone and havent gotten a single stash

[maiden apex]

Wait how did the wish granter turn ppl into monolith but Strelok just got one of the bad endings and didn’t become a monolith soldier?

[violet dune]

isnt c-con failed to properly brainwash him?

and he lost his memory but during his mission to kill strelok he learned he is strelok because of c-con fck up

[proven hollow]

monolith are the good guys though

[still current]

[violet dune]

[proven hollow]

saying the monolith is evil is like saying a hammer is evil, they're a tool without self-determination, they are truly neutral, while literally everyone else in the zone is wanting to use or abuse it in some way, hence the Monolith is the least of all evils, hence the good guys

[maiden apex]

Aren’t they just an extension of the c-consciousness?

[proven hollow]

They were, no longer

[maiden apex]

Wait what are they being influenced by now that the wish granter is deactivated? Is it Faust controlling them?

[proven hollow]

the wish granter is a machine capable of creating illusions created by the c-con as a defensive barrier, it was never the thing controlling the monolith

[vapid galleon]

[violet dune]

they are former stalkers. you cant say all stalker intentions are good or bad, so i agree on this they could be more nutrual because they didnt choose this path

but this doesnt mean you should worship monolith movement, because its in general are bad

[maiden apex]

Oh interesting, how did they collectively degenerate into the Monolith then, if it wasn’t giving them orders

Well they did exist as a group before they had their minds fried

[proven hollow]

they never really had their minds "fried" in that sense, they were mind controlled, but pretty much entirely functional after the mind control ended

as we see in both CoP with Striders squad and S2 with Strider and Noontide

[proven hollow]

what bad have they done? from the onset of their appearance they almost exclusively fight ward, a literal private military force funded by the regulatory board who is trying to use psi energy to literally mind control the entire world

but even then, they're just tools to begin with!

[violet dune]

arent they fight everyone?

[harsh jungle]

all my homies hate the Ward

[ruby gale]

[proven hollow]

can you hold a man accountable for what he does when he is entirely under the influence of a psychotic episode? of course not, we call that "wilsonbekwaam" in Dutch, where you do not have the conscious will needed to make decisions, it's very often an alleviating circumstance

[main jewel]

uuuuughhhh i need more update gsc

uuuuuuuuuuugghg

[maiden apex]

So what gave them orders? How were they able to unite instead of being zombies?

[ruby gale]

In America thats usually a bs excuse to avoid consequences

[main jewel]

uuuueeeggehehehhehrhrhhrhrh

[proven hollow]

Faust

[proven hollow]

here it does need to be established by licensed medical practioners

[maiden apex]

Interesting, even in original trilogy before noon and the reactivation by Faust?

[ruby gale]

Same here, but most in court for assaults and stuff try to claim that to get out of consequence, some get caught and others get away with it

[cobalt fiber]

🤨

[violet dune]

so who controlled monolith after faust?

[ruby gale]

Creed noises

[proven hollow]

no, Dalin re-activates the X-network unknowingly, that's when Faust gets control

[main jewel]

i want update newsws

im so curiousssusst

[proven hollow]

Still Faust, Faust might be dead, but the X-network is still active, and his orders remain

[maiden apex]

How does Strelok gain control in his ending? Does he become the c-con after entering the pod?

[violet dune]

arent past-faust death monolithians just followed old c-con protocol?

[main jewel]

i mean assuming strelok completes the circuit i guess

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866798898197823489/1407880272539684896/pingas.gif

[proven hollow]

No, not necessarily, the one entering the pod at the end is decidedly different from the c-consciousness before

[maiden apex]

No embeds 😞

[proven hollow]

Faust's orders are essentially the same as the c-con, protect the CNPP

[violet dune]

so its controlled or brainwashed?

controlling means someone have to constantly tell what to do, brainwashing is an idea which they follow

[proven hollow]

Hmm, hard to say, I'd say it's brainwashing with the intended consequence of mind control, I think they just see constant illusions and hear voices, with the C-con it made them worship the wish-Granter as well, doesn't seem to be the case with Fausts control

[violet dune]

yea its could be a mix of 2

[maiden apex]

Faust is a successful controller right?

[violet dune]

experimental controller

[proven hollow]

i mean you can brainwash someone to believe something, you can also brainwash somebody to influence them

[maiden apex]

So he’s still a “prototype” so to speak? The other controllers in the Zone are failed experiments?

[proven hollow]

most mutants are

[vapid galleon]

right

[maiden apex]

Yeah it’s still crazy to me the Doctor was able to tame a pseudo dog 😭

[proven hollow]

perhaps all they need, is a little compassion

[violet dune]

noah also had pseudo dog pet

[copper radish]

whoa I heard that mentioned around a campfire!! never met the fellow

[proven hollow]

no worries, he wasn't a particullary friendly fellow

[copper radish]

is it possible in the game to remain neutral towards the Monolith?

as things stand, they shoot me on sight 😐

so does the Ward

[proven hollow]

no, the devs don't want you to help the good guys 🙁