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also (optional) AI voice acting that just uses ru/ua actors and translates their phrases lol
that would be peak
eww AI
just don't make an AI-translation
if it's anything like Oblivion then eh
It's not but you'd know if you played it
I still think it's gonna be a ton better than whatever CoP official voice acting is
cop english va was so goofy lol
I think AI would be a good compromise for people who want to hear the game with original voice cast but do not want to read subs.
It's currently not quite there yet to be feasible but I think it will be
exactly, I haven't played Morrowind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZX5ML6YvJo elven ai is a great example of ai voice possibility
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#morrowind #dagothur #elevenai #modded #elderscrolls #tes3
you're missing out
elven ai? you mean eleven labs?
I know there is possibility, but the very few videos with actual quality AI voices with RANGE are the result of hours of manual work combining results of several different models + mixing and editing
ah fair i never looked into how its actually done
It's not there yet in terms of out of the box solution. You can do a few minutes demo in a short period of time, but something the size of SoC is not feasible.
man i cant wait for that day
although, elevenlabs has speech2speech now
so one person can do 50 voices
Yeah I mostly referred to speech to speech, not tts.
TTS is really behind, speech to speech is better but still has artifacts.
yeah but you still need someone who can act for speech2speech
Guys is this unusual I got a beril 5 suit 180000 rubles a gp37 chaser 13 and a black kite silenced before going to any of the labs
where did you get GP37?
but Rostok isn't even open yet
YES it is i did the appgrom mission and I'm not doing any main quests rn
And there are some tunder s14s I got
"before going to any of the labs"
I only went to apogrom
"before going to any of the labs"
Before the first lab it's open cuz you take documents to barkeep
Also got a bulldog 6
you carry 3 guns?
Rn I'm only carry chaser gp37 and black kite
Selling the 3 suits that are 10k each and the vintage and keep8ng 2 gp37s and the bulldog in a stash maybe
On my first playthough on the first lab I had no armor and just a lr300
I'm very loaded rn
get a tourist suit
203524 rubles now
still no tourist suit?
Isn't the beril better
tourist suit has 70kg carry weight
Id rather have better protection since I'm on master and need to use cover more
lol just use cover, you don't need good armor
or use 5 mama's beads
Also should I loot all the stashes before continuing to a main mission
yeah and find all artifacts
Also after yantar the guide quest shows up right?
idk
Hows the vss vintorez late game?
works fine
Aight
Cuz i just entered the bar keep, i heard the vss is near there, but its too late and I’m just gonna check that tmrw
is stalker worth installing
Yes

Did it 2 or 3 days ago, i can give a very professional opinion that it has consumed me
Please do not harass me for shit grammar
is it like tarkov tho
Not even close. Only similarities are that both games are set in Eastern Europe in a closed off Zone. Oh yeah also, Prapor is just knock-off Sidorovich
how much gb in pc
They aren't much. SoC is like 20 iirc
SOC doesnt hit 20 gib
Yeah it's a bit under but around there is what I remember
20 gb?
Rest apart from HoC are less
@tawdry cargo i meant stalker 2 heart of Chernobyl
Why ask in the Shadow of Chernobyl channel then? Best to start with SoC anyways cause it's the first game of the series
idk what channel is what im new i just want to know if its worth the storage sorry gang 😭
But it's like 200 GB maybe? I don't remember exactly
You are in the channel of the first game in the series and asking about the newest lol
Use a gp37 you can get it very early if you are smart
where?
you said Army Warehouses, that's not early lol
unless you just knife open Rostok
brother, it doesnt even hit the 10gb, its like 7 if I recall
I swear it was 19 last I checked. Nah I have to get some better sleep 
probably mods. pure SoC installation is around 4.6gb (at least in Steam)
I'm not sure if this is the right channel but I need some help with getting SoC to get up and running cause all it'll do is crash with a message saying how it fails to initialize graphics hardware. Tried verifying the game files and that didn't fix it so idk what to do
go to properties -> betas -> change version to 1.0007
Didn't work
Write a message to GSC support then
Man I just figured out I could use virtual super resolution (AMD thing) to get antialiasing in all stalker games
before lab x18 after apogrom you do the quest where you takeover freedom base
you can go to rostok before agroprom
Ik but easier if you do it when you finish apogrom
lol no
can bandits take over the Depot in Garbage?
hello can anyone help me? how can fix my reputation because i accidentally killed one of the duty in side quest on ambushing on the road and then when i came back to the bar gate they started shooting me i already killed them all but i cannot go to the camp anymore because lot of duty is in it and i need to get my quest complete
can anyone help? because i cant really play this game anymore im stuck killing bunch of duty's
You cannot fix your relationship with dutiers in Bar if they're already hostile, but you can raise it before the kill so that their relationship would drop to neutral, not hostile. You will need to continue the game with Duty hostile to you or load an earlier save.
It is possible to fully complete it while being enemies with Duty faction, you are not by any means softlocked or anything.
is it possible to get the true ending in a "Kill Everyone" playthrough?
thanks
absolutely yeah
You can kill Guide and still get a link to Doc.
so I have to talk to him first?
Nope.
Just search his body and get the necessary info into your PDA.
SoC is VERY thought-through in that regard, there are safety precautions for every scenario where an NPC may die. And they all die (except for Sidorovich and Arnie in LotZ during arena fights).
you can still kill Sid with a grenade
I mean in the teleport
Well that's not even an NPC, it's just an animated object.
Like arena spectators. So you can't really kill it either.
so he would be still alive if you went back?
Of course. When you're in teleport you're in a fake copy of a bunkera and that Sid is neither real Sid nor even an NPC. Just an object playing an animation.
can you kill him in Cordon then?
Nope, dude is legitimately immortal. The only NPC in SoC. There was not even a way to make NPCs immortal in SoC but Sid is.
Cause he's on a different engine class that separates him from other NPCs and allows him to play separate head and body anims.
are you saying he isn't even human?
The only other NPC in trilogy working on the same class is Forester in CS.
Well if we speak technically some of his files are with mutants lol
But more like a different kind of NPC that anyone else is with different code running for him.
Which allows very specific interactions only Sid has. Playing audio after trading, tracking player with his head, etc.
Also has bugs that only appear for this class. E.g. all the audio played by him is 2-dimensional and does not scale on distance. Which is why "GOOD HUNTING STALKER" is always so loud.
Again, same issue with Forester cause same engine class.
Right, I just got the AR and sniper variant of the vintorez, I just came back to the bar to sell some shit and I saw the "come in don't stand there" guy
Can someone please tell me he doesn't die later in the story
he's always there
he's a bar greeter
Idk man, some dumb shit like the bar getting raided , i just hoped he dont die
you can kill him so you can stop thinking about it
Well that makes sense now, it always bothered me that I could hear his voice through the ground so damn clearly, like he's in my ear once I'm within 20m of his position
hi I'm new to the trilogy, i have a question : what difficulty should i start on as a first time player ?
i want best experience possible and I'm having hard time playing on lower difficulties so idk whether i should crank that up or learn to aim
I recommend playing on the highest difficulty from the beginning. The enemies won't become sponges or anything, you can take them down with 1-2 well placed shots, but enemies will also kill you that fast. Ammo and supplies won't spawn in large amounts either. Sounds tough but in the long game you will get used to it
If it's on console I suggest this even more because the easier difficulty make you take some more damage you won't even develop your covering techniques
Hey, it's just my personal experience lol
nothing wrong starting on low difficulty to see what the games are about
@civic gatein Master you deal less damage and resist less damage than other difficulties, lower difficulties are, indeed, easier
hello, good afternoon. This channel is to talk and advise about mods, or is there a specific channel for that. Excuse me, I'm new.
For mods check out #🔩┃trilogy_modifications
this was already pinned before 😄
tough luck
Not alot of folks ever check pins lol
not even moderators it seems 😄
It's easier sometimes to post the pic directly instead of telling a user to read pins but I didn't think I'd have to explain this
there are two identical pinned messages now
yknow, Ill keep em pinned
just for you
Let's do a third
cuz there's 2 recurring quests basically with the same objective - to kill that group of bandits
what are the "previous spots"?
from what I've noticed loners can defend the depot if I don't help them and walk by, if I go in and don't help them and just look - they get killed by bandits
default camps
where are those?
my brother in Christ just play the game lol
anyone know why my minimap is transparent? new to the franchise so I'm not sure if it's meant to be but I don't see the icons for friendly/enemy/neutral/bodies like the guy at the start said I would
Could you post a screenshot in #📸┃screens_and_videos ?
@turbid wave think that’s a bug that appears when you change resolutions, did you change res while in-game? If so restart the game and minimap should reappear
ah yeah i did, it seems to have fixed itself now that ive changed locations anyways. thanks
Yo I just got back from lab x18, and the trader is selling the Berill-5M armored suit, shud I buy it or is it common
You can find it but it’s not common. It’s a good purchase if you feel like your current suit does not protect you from bullets enough.
Hold a bit more... For good vss vintores chek military wäre house it on floor
Don't worry, before going to lab x18 I got the vintorez,and the AR version by helping freedom raid the duty camp
But I sadly missed the ammo cache😭
Reason: Bad word usage
Hi all! I started to play SoC Complete
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-complete-2009/downloads/stalker-complete-15
Awsome graphics and original content. Is this the most right place to ask questions? Or is there another discord for that? 🙂
Sorry to hear you're playing Complete bro 
Complete 
Any good mod lists to bring this old classic up to date?
I’m upset due to selling all lot of shit and I didn’t know that the artifacts were meant to help you with everything around. Idk if I’m playing the game right.
Did you check Radiophobia 3?
where would you say is the best situation to use an RPG in SoC?
Any recommendation of the mods? That Soc complete feels very old.
It’s good out of the box.
First quest with bandit vehicle station 
You’re coming with the wrong mindset. It’s an old game and no mod will make it stalker 2-level graphics and environments. That being said, it aged quite well.
There’s no reason to ruin the art direction and dev intentions through third party mods if it’s your first experience with the game.
Fr vanilla trilogy is peak as it is lol
I actually prefer the trilogy graphics to stalker 2 or mods like custom or gamma lol
stalker 2 looks too happy and sunshine
It do.
Anyone here tríed amk 1.4/1.4.1? How is, good or nothing new
I'd ask in #🔩┃trilogy_modifications
I have not. There's a literal waterfall of mods and suggestions so I figured I'd ask here
Good modlist?
Ah, missed that. Thank you.
Tks
The colors, the sounds, and everything looks amazing when maxed out. The dynamic lights are the best
I played all stalkers back at the day, I am 43 years old. 😄
Gamma 0.9.3 makes the gamme better even with engine and weapons but it is too complex for me with the mods.
is Elephant's Foot featured in SoC? https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1ig5m3h/footage_of_the_elephants_foot/
Yes in Agroprom underground
Hopped a long way on one foot...
but that's nowhere near the reactor core, it should be in CNPP
i bought shadow of chernobyl so i could play for the first time but any time i finish the opening cinematic i cant do anything
like i THINK we should be able to move even after the shop guy stops talking and tells me to come closer but i cant do anything at all
ive restarted my game and even made new games and it still happens
pls help me i wanna play the masterpiece :(:(:(
you can't look around with the mouse or walk with WASD?
i can look around but i cant walk
and i cant interact with lockers or the shopkeep or open the menu
you can't open the menu with Esc?
no
what operating system do you have?
windows 10
restart your PC
it worked thank you big guy
Finished SoC for the 2nd time, this time without ZRP. The CNPP sequence definitely felt shorter this time.
It’s also not really radioactive I think it’s just a nice lil reference instead of an attempt to actually recreate it in a geographically accurate way
Did you do the true ending on both playthroughs?
yeah
I know I have to jump through 20 teleports to get there
How did you feel about the necessity of ZRP in the end?
I appreciated it for the lack of Pripyat crashes
Is there anyway to repair weapons to armor ?
Guys where can i buy 9x39 ammo? And where on the map can i find petrenko
to repair an armor you need at least 4 of +30% resistance artifacts: electric resistance, chem resistance, impact resistance, etc.
then just walk into a corresponding anomaly
go to Garbage and shoot 2 boxes that are up on the tower where Bes' group hangs out
Petrenko is in Duty's HQ part of Rostok
to repair a weapon it's a bit convoluted, you have to give it to an NPC, then wound that NPC so he drops it, wounded NPCs drop weapons at 100% durability
That’s 9x19 not 9x39
Petrenko sells 9x39
I was wondering about one thing: in Agroprom underground, how the hell is the military just chilling there alongside Bloodsuckers?
I've had those two parties duke it out among themselves, fun to watch
easy, bloodsucker does not spawn until Marked One comes in, and military knows that xd
Got the tunder it was a bad idea
wdym
tunder 5.45 is the best gun that's gonna be available for you for next couple levels
I started a new playthrough and Sidor didn't have the Tunder for sale
10% to have it available. Possible to force it in there by repeatedly resetting his inventory by quicksaving and loading(before getting the reward from wolf for the first mission)
^
If you don’t speak to Wolf about clearing vehicle station you can get it at any point
Question about that btw
Is receiving that reward a requirement for him leaving?
Or does he leave anyway?
I had to sell an arm and a leg bro
I thought Sid only ate drumsticks? : o
Thanks
Brother this is for the first game
they said they arent currently working on a ps5 port
Darn
Just did the mission where u can side with freedom or duty (sided with duty) are the freedom really that bad?
Also I trying to get my payment from skull but it doesn’t let me get it
Brother, Freedom is Freedom! we have no one that rules over no one, in missions we just listen to our commander cause of his experience if you do good deeds you get the respect from all of us
the zone is the best thing that could have happened for the future of science and new technology
Is gp 37 better or is ft 200 better
FT-200M
Ok
If you drop ur gun to a zombie, then kill it, you can pick the gun up in full condition right?
No, only injuring gives full conditions guns, guns from corpses will be still broken a bit but if yours is 0% durability it’s still worth it
And you need to find an NPC that will accept that gun. He should either have no gun of the same type (eg pistol only) or a worse ranked gun
U can loot injured zombies?
Any NPC works not just a zombie, and no you can’t loot them but you they drop weapon when heavily injured
Oh nice, so even bandits work?
What would yall rank shadow of Chornobyl in your list?
A lot better than CoP and a LOT better than HoC.
Not quite up to CS standards but still a very good game that aged really well.
#1
Damn bro HoC is that bad? I was thinking of buying it, is it worth it?
Yeah, unless you are a die hard vanilla trilogy fan, you will most likely find it ok.
It’s a good game on its own, just really bad for a sequel.
so like Fallout 3 
LMAO
Damn that hurt a lot lmfao
Na,idgaf about a sequel, I just wanted to know if the story is decent on its own, not a sequel, as long as the timeline fits idgaf
But what about strelok, and do we know what happens to our Mc or is there a new one like in clear sky(ik clear sky is a prequel to soc)
It continues the stories of existing characters but retcons a lot of stuff to the point where events of old games could not happen in the new world / map. It's a new MC.
MC?
i think some muckafucka named skif
is the ft 200 better than the vintorez? idgaf about stealth, and im thinking of dropping my vintorez when i get back from lab x16, and doing the glitch for the ft 200 from arena
vintorez seemed more accurate to me, easy 1 shot headshots
Ok
vintorez caliber also makes the job pretty much quick
I have 495 rounds of regular 9x39
And 20 rounds of sp5, petrenko only selling normal rounds😭
more than enough to make a bastard military unit bleed for its sins
Damn right
What’s hoc ?
Stalker 2-heart of chernobyl
Dang I won’t ever play it
I wanted to buy it because it looked more realistic than real life
And because it has xbox support...
I heard it comes out after the 3 month Xbox game pass but I guess it was false
Ok
Wym?
Well , you see I bought shadow of chernobyl last week, on some old mac I found in my dad's Stache of shit that he'll save for later(I confirm that shit actually comes to use) but I also have an xbox
he should start selling sp5 at some point
And since the mac definitely won't run stalker 2, I wanted to buy it ok my eggbox and connect k&b and play like I do with warthunder
I see, is there like any specific point or mission from which he starts selling sp5 or does that shit just happen randomly?
i forgot when he may do, but just progress normally or kill any unit u see that carries said caliber by looking at their gun
after the grenade launcher quest
don't (for now at least). too may bugs, like WAY TOO MANY bugs. missing QoL and features from previous games, and the A-Life is nearly non-existent (basically a glorified spawner at this point).
they are working on fixes though, and as far as I can see from the answers channel, they promised a new patch next week. wait till lands and see some reviews
Eh what can you do when lead developers of your game are dying irl in an actual war
And not now, I was thinking of buying in July, when my birthday hits
So I'm just hoping most problems will be fixed by the latter half of the month
shotguns are so damn goated ngl
Longer you wait the better tbh I'm waiting aswell
Fr
I legit dropped on just b4 going to x16 cus 9x39 has its own gravitational pull
Just like new operative systems and almost all type of new tech, wait until fixes
for you or for them?
Please spare me I didn't know they were that op😭 😭 😭
yep, I hope they can fix most of the issues as well. I stopped playing after 150h (around 50% of the story for me) and just wait for fixes and hopefuly optimizations. other than that the game is really cool and atmospheric
9x39 it's really damn strong and the guns that use them are even more stronger, the bleed effect makes u feel like actual paper
when i was going through my first playthrough i actually was thinking to sticking with the TRs 301 but oh i was so wrong
But they are heavy as hell, after buying that ammo I had to Stache away my shotty
I see
i mean, the boolet is big
the caliber irl is heavy and wide
And since they aren't sold by sidorovich, they ain't rubber either
i think it's one of the expensive calibers besides the other heavy guns
Fr, it too around 8 k for 500 bullets. That too of the normal type
but hey, it's totally worth it, it can absolutely take down 1 heavy unit with exoskeleton in 2-3 headshots
non AP tho
Here's my ranking of stalker Games
- Soc
- CoP
- Cs
- S2
Any way I found a new anomaly
Falling pig
Oh remember I don't have the permit to show pictures
ranking Clear sky below stalker 2 ? 🤢
wack list
Oh bleen my mistake
i was gonna say atleast CS is functioning game with all its systems working in it
faction wars work? when? where?
Faction wars had me thinking "holy shit i can conquer the entire world" until i saw only that Stalkers/Freedom would move into outpost i massacred
bruh im a dumbass, didnt realize u could throw bolts in soc i totally went through the game without using them
it takes some doing, but you can get it to work
lol, how did you walk through the tunnel in Cordon that's completely obstructed by electro anomalies?
h e h e h e, lets not ask
just pay 500 ru bruh
500 ru is a lot of money at that point of the game if you're playing for the 1st time
i sold some artifacts and i engaged with the first military units i saw below the train wreck
in my 1st playthrough military under the bridge was hostile to me anyway lol, because I killed the patrolling unit
so I had no idea about the 500 ru thing
there is also a path on the east where the barbed wire fence is broken
which lets you go without paying and going through the tunnel, easiest way out there
i saw military and saw their guns and my braincells went "pew pew = heavier firepower" so i didnt pay those 500
engaged with the pb1 and short barreled shotgun
i accidentally glitched the military squad and just offed them with 1 nade
they love to share
or you solve the issue once and for all by beating the crap out of those military gopniks (you can try at least) and sell their loot
they respawn
wut? I kill them at the beginning of the game, and when I got back to cordon after disabling brain scorcher they weren't there
I kill them every time I go back to Sidor, from 1 to 5 enemies
I played vanilla
wiki also says they respawn
so maybe it's your mods 
Damn, that's really one of the worst I've seen around
"If any of Kuznetsov's soldiers is killed, they will be replaced by Spetsnaz armed with Obokan assault rifles." https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Kuznetsov
"If Kuznetsov and his men are killed, Spetsnaz will take over the checkpoint. These soldiers do not accept bribes and will open fire on sight, forcing the player to battle their way through the bridge every time, unless using the aforementioned tunnel to bypass them." https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Railway_bridge#Shadow_of_Chernobyl
Wonder if zrp changes them to not respawn?
I played with ZRP and they respawned even more, I remember it being super annoying
Oh weird haha wonder what mod they running to stop the respawn
it felt like they always respawned all 5 of them in ZRP, in vanilla it's 1-5
I deff prefer vanilla way of doing it tbh
on ru wiki it says they respawn after you visit x18
I played with ZRP too. Have no idea why they didn't respawn for me
gotta check my saves later, maybe I just didn't notice
hello guys, so i am playing the game right now but after i log into it again my game crashes every time after 2 minutes. I had some mod in the game but i already removed the mods. Can anyone help?
And this here is the crash log
Expression : error handler is invoked!
Function : invalid_parameter_handler
File : E:\stalker\sources\trunk\xrCore\xrDebugNew.cpp
Line : 804
Description :
if you removed the mods, you need to start a new game, saves made with mods are incompatible with vanilla
i just had the Original Weapons Renewal 3 and zrp, do i still need to start a completly new game?
yes
I mean you could try launching the save but it will most likely crash the game consistently lol
yes. it says so in ZRP's Readme file, that if you want to remove the mod, you gotta start a new game
oh didnt know that
well, it's called readme for a reason :D
haha yeah it was pretty stupid but fck it the game is too great to stop playing it
no, it's actually just me. I loaded a save right after x18, when I entered Cordon, and they were there. so I just didn't notice. my bad
not too much of an expert and 100+ hours on the game but, i killed them before in my 1st playthrough and they never respawned once, i have no mods installed
Guys, how to get the true ending?
Did you talk to Fox, then Mole, then Guide and then Doctor?
Check unfinished missions
you have 100 hours on your 1st playthrough?
nono, that's way too much lmao
i didn't have proper grammar there, sorry
they haven't respawned on your subsequent playthroughs either?
Yep, they haven't
so you kill them, then come back after a few days and there is no one guarding the passage?
Mostly stalkers roaming around
I suppose there is a chance of them getting killed by A-Life
that would make sense
This how the minimap of the bridge pass looked like for me in my last playthrough near the end of the game #📸┃trilogy-screenshots message
These are all dead military guys
i may be able to tell u if this one playthrough they respawn, since only 2 died under the train and the others died by a nade nearby one of the trees closer to the building where loners hangout
So if i see more than 2 bodies, it's a signal that there were new units that died
but ngl i totally enjoy the A-Life system, it is crazy to see this type of AI system in old games
old games? 2007 was 5 years ago 
I'll be damned, it came out 1 year after i was born
5 years already? Gtfo...
Knife range in this game feels so damn off sometimes
Hey guys,
Could anyone share the sounds of psy voices and radiation?
2007 was 2 years ago
Damn straight
Yo guys shud i buy the green sp 99, idk the exact name, or the SEVA suit
SEVA has a bit better physical protection, while SSP has better anomaly protection. But overall, I'd say SEVA. You're much likely to get hit by a bullet than by an anomaly
https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/SEVA_suit
https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/SSP-99_Ecologist
Okay guys i am stupid
I heard u can get the green suit for free
If you trade in the ghost suit, but i deleted all my other saves
Well, you can still buy if you have money
But, i still loaded back in, gave the ghosts suit, and now im at 5kruble
sell artifacts, walk around garbage, argroprom. there are tons of them
also, artifacts from electric anomalies are only visible at night
Ok, shud i chuck away ghosts suit and buy it, or shud i keep it
I just loaded in the save again, im fine
Yeah i think the seva suit should be worth it
Shud i sell pellicle? I found it on my way to the lab
Well, I kept it but never used actually
If you manage to find 3 more, you will be able to use the healing/repairing trick but chemical anomalies are quite rare. You have better chances doing that with 4 Batteries
Yeah
So yeah, probably can just sell it
I think you can find a SEVA in rostok
But I don't remember who gives the stash location
iiric it was the guy in the bar, the one that asked you to find family rifle
actually, the guy just gives a hint on the building. but the actual stash is only marked after you search a body of a zombie in the burner tunnel (on the way from Wild territory to Yantar)
green SSP (SSP-99M) is better than SEVA in every way
right, but @sonic dew asked about the orange one
my god, I'm blind
sorry, I thought we were talking about the orange one
like, there was twice word "green" that my brain completely ignored for some reason and thinks we're talking about the orange one. what the actual fck, brain
SSP-99M is a strong contender for best suit in my book
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Bad word usage
thats just great
i wanna scream sooooo loud rn
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
ya know what, it is what it is
you don't need the BEST GEAR IN EXISTANCE to beat the game yk?
and i dont think its that bad, since barkeep is selling the skat19 or some other thing
It's ok to go for middle options, people beat it with PMm and no armor
ok, idk man im pretty new and everyone is rambling on about how hard game is
it isn't haha, you're certainly encouraged to go for best gear but it's not gonna make your run impossible
and it's not that big of a difference between SEVA and SSP-99M
i see
bro istg bro 9x39 is so damn heavy😭 . like i just wanna buy the gp or do the glitch for the ft200 but vintar is really nice, if you aim for the head
what about durability?
yea... sorry that I confused you in first place bud
All good man, atleast now I found out barkeep is selling the skat 19 or sum other shit like that, which Lotta people r saying is best suit in the game
Honestly imma just save for that
he also sells exoskeletons at some point. but the biggest downside of exos is that you can't sprint in it
skibidi I'm a Skat-9Man
Yeah, late game no sprinting against monoliths is pretty painful I hear
It’s not too bad
I just came back from arena, couldnt do glitch, didnt bother, but he is selling it
Still gonna svae up and buy the skat 9
what kind of glitch?
The try and load out of arena with gun
Problem is.. that's the last enemy
And already im stuck in the arena and I already have a decent weapon so I'm good
I just shot the military checkpoint that's under the bridge in cordon with an RPG (they gather around the fire at night), Kuznetsov didn't even blink and is still neutral to me.
you can grab the arena stuff after fight already ended with demo_record and demo_play
Screw that man I have to win first without smashing my table
but that's cheating
what do you mean?
Listen, I was trying to do the ft200 arena glitch, and I changed my mind. You were telling him that using the demo record command to get the ft 200 outta arena was cheating, but I responded again asking if the glitch to get the ft 200 outta arena wasn't cheating

it is, but it's fun xd
and arena stuff is unique and allows for unique interactions with NPCs as they will always accept it over any other gun
so I can repair Strelok's AKM this way?
no it just has unusually high priority that NPC will prefer it over almost any other weapon
but Strelok's AKM is not taken by NPC in any scenario at all
unless traded in
Fun fact: I was js playing red forest, pretty dark room cuz my curtains are closed and it's raining, and I was eating an apple which was the only thing in my fridge, and I got jumpscared by a monolith so hard that I chucked the apple on the curtains, which was on the other side of the room
how do you pull the guns out of the arena?
the real stalker experience^^
Open console, do demo_record 1, fly under the map in freecam mode until you find the arena building, in the first spectator cabin on the left you’ll find a dynamite crate, get closer to it until you see a search prompt, spam Space, then press Escape and type demo_play 1. You will be right where you smashed space and will be able to loot the crate and get arena weapons. Note that they don’t look any different from regular ones
so, do I need to be in a fight in the arena for this to work or something?
Nah you need to complete the fights first. It’s a box where items go after they’re removed from arena.
HEEEEEELLP MEEEEEE IM TRYING TO TURN OFF THE BRAIN SCORCHER AND 2 BIG BLACK BLOODSUCKERS ARE TRYING TO KILL MEEEEEEE
I SHOT THEM AND THEY ARE JUST RUNNING IN AND OUT OF COVER AND BREATHING VERY VERY HEAVILU
HshshsshShhshsSHHSHDHFDAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

Hlep guys my armor broke do u find armor in Pripyat or the plant
im doing c consciousness ending
Can I even save Kruhlov?
there is one exo in the plant, in the first rooms, down the ladder
yeah, just be fast
Kruglov? Yes you can
Saved him
Was his name changed to Kruhlov in console release?
I still haven’t looked into latest patch so I don’t know what the changes are
he probably just accidentally put h instead of g they are right next to eachother
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case considering Agroprom is now Ahroprom
how much IRL time is 1 hr of in-game time?
6 minutes
what's the source of this gif? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2608004963
Some fan film that never saw the light of day but a semi-popular YouTube film review dude made a collab with them for his review of a chernobyl-themed series: https://youtu.be/dA5wNB7gYFs
Idk how to explain it very well but the Russian г (g) is the Ukrainian г (h)
So some names in HoC were slightly switched around. Maybe the same in LotZ
ahh that makes sense i just assumed typo
appreciate you letting me know that
Yeah, same letter different pronunciation
Yeah it’s a different pronunciation of the same letter, though sometimes Ukrainians will make a hard G sound with г but it depends on the word. But Ukrainian has a dedicated letter for G which is ґ.
Yeah but for the most part г does a h
Yeah
How do I get out of X16?
You jump into the hole in the room with Ghost
There is also a bunch of 9x39 ammo there
That's alright but I have no gun for it
There is one in a toilet at the begining of the lab
I'm already out of the lab
How come you all go to main missions so unprepared xd
Ikr
Bruh I almost completely overlooked a skat 9m in the decoders room in the hotel
@rotund saddle sorry for the mention lad, but it seems the military squad that looks over around the train wreck did respawn
😱
They do
What I usually overlooked there is the decoder and realized that only near the door
Ah yes Doctor sent you to the stash in the hotel to get a SKAT suit 
Is modded SoC also discussed about in this channel?
#🔩┃trilogy_modifications is best place for that
Im doing a run of SoC its not with or without only
its a run but without doing the actual story
there are documents, decoder and the suit. i remember I took the docs, then I was surprised by the suit, and hapilly left the building lol
luckily there is good old door glitch :D
Is there actually any good hope of getting Steam keys from GSC as someone who acquired all three original games back in the days?
do you have cd keys from the old retail games?
if yes then yeah you can trade them for steam keys
GoG should be a better option personally, but steam has the beta patch
think GOG does not have win11/intel 12 updates?
you used to be able to e-mail Valve the photo of your Half-Life copy's CD-Key and they'd give it to you on Steam
idk if they do it with other games
Have all the retail keys from the old games, but Steam doesn't recognize them. So I contacted GSC support about it. Though, I'm not sure if they follow it up...
Hi folks, I’m rather new to stalker, I’m at the point of the game where you get that psi helmet, but I wanted to ask if it’s possible to find someone that repairs armor or something? I found a SEVA suit in a stash and it’s getting a bit banged up rn
Like I’m at the point where you can find Gordon freeman
You cannot repair armor in SoC (the weapon and ammo progression is made in a way to force you to often exchange for new weapons),
That being said, there are ways to repair both, but they're very hard and usually not worth the trouble.
Ah, okay
Armor repair needs 4 of the same +30% resistance artifacts.
Wait what
Now I’m confused
You say there’s no way to repair armor
Then say there’s a way to repair armor
Nvm
There's no legitemate way and the game is balanced around you not being able to repair. But there are bugs that allow you to repair it but they're really hard to perform.
Ohh okay
Not bugs per se, oversights in game mechanics moreso.
But you get the idea. If you really want to, you need to find 4 30% artifacts. But it's much easier to just buy a new SEVA.
Yea
Uhh
Well the only hope I’d have for that is buying from the bartender since he’s the only real good trader I know of right now, and he doesn’t have one
Traders get better inventories when you progress through the storyline. He may have a good suit later.
Yeah
Btw I remember when I entered that lab that needs the psi helmet that I was told something about a time limit I think? I can’t exactly remember
Oh yeah the question
The question is if there’s actually a time limit while you’re down there with that psi helmet
Ah
I did a job for Snitch, where I had to kill either a stalker named Master or a Master Stalker, I’m not sure which one it was, but I feel bad for doing it, he was just hanging out, was entirely passive too
His friends weren’t after I took him out with a single black kite headshot
You missed a few potential quests for his friends too lol
All of them are quest targets
missed rewards if you killed them outside the quests
Oh
I mean like they were all at one camp
And there was a corpse in a trash fire for some reason
Like the barrel with the fire in it, it had a dead guy in it for some reason
damn
I wish there was an easier way to look through info on stashes you get from dead folks instead of looking through the map
btw @late condor ZRP also "fixes" the "Get out of here Stalker" being repeated over and over again
Yeah ik, similar phrases like “hello hello” too
that's why I had no idea WHY it was a meme when I played with ZRP
are you talking about Sakharov?
Yes
I guess the whole definition of what is bugged and what isn’t is very hard to draw
Does ZRP do anything to joining freedom dialogue?
I haven't checked that
I haven't tried joining Freedom even in vanilla yet
although I think Lukash at one point says something like "welcome aboard" even though you don't actually become part of Freedom
it confused me enough that I looked up if you even can join factions in SoC
The way to do it involves a very weird order of actions and it’s clearly an oversight
In fact if you do this several dialogues will be active at once and you need to exit and enter dialogue until you get the one where you join freedom
So it’s most definitely not working as intended. But then again fixing it could range from removing feature devs likely forgot about to trying to polish it but that would obviously involve lots of decision making
yeah, I saw a video on it on YT
Hey guys i went to launch Shadow Of Chernobyl for the first time and it gave me a key that it said i would need to use upon starting the game, i am in the main menu and i do not see anywhere to input this key?
It’s for multiplayer only.
You don’t need the key to play singleplayer.
Oh i see, okay thank you
I need help I saw some people somewhere was playing full version shadow of Chernobyl on phone but they didn't told me how do u guys know how to play stalker shadow of Chernobyl on phone?
Dont do it, you can get hold of it on weird sites full of malware and viruses, but the game is very buggy so its not worth it
Windows emulation?
Y’know personally I don’t find the “Get out of here, stalker” line to be annoying
What is annoying however is Snitch harassing me while I’m using the blue box in the bar, he hasn’t given me any information I don’t already know
Real quick: how good is the mama’s beads artifact really? I know that it’s a free 5% bullet capacity artifact, but 5% is rather small, is it not?
Snitch is so useless it's comical
I got one of the random popup jobs from Voronin to clear some zombies out while I was visiting Yantar and when I turned it in he called me a good boy


hey real quick, if I decide to join Freedom, would I lose access to the 100 rads bar
i meant helping lukash
as long as you don't kill too many dutiers you should be fine
How's the consensus of people here feel on modding?
Ah, found the #🔩┃trilogy_modifications channel, nevermind
Wait why does the channel name say Chornobyl
Oh
It said Chernobyl on the box and in my steam library
Didn’t know it was also called Chornobyl
it's the Ukrainian spelling
Ah ok
Similarly #call-of-prypiat is spelled prypiat and not pripyat
Stalker clor sky
Are C-Consciousness bad ? I completed game second time after a long time since first time and now i dont understand why we should destroy C-Consciousness. If what they say is true, then join would be better ending.
So I have zrp on my soc playthrough. I want to also get memories of the zone. Is there a possibility to get it into my save? Moddb says zrp is included in memories of the zone
#🔩┃trilogy_modifications for mod talk this is vanilla channel, but the answer is no
To make things even worse, google maps spells it Pryp'yat'
Yeah that’s the official transliteration from Ukrainian
Pripyat’ is more of a Russian transliteration
Прип’ять (UA) vs Припять (RU)
It’s Pryp’yat’ officially, but a simplified transliteration from Ukrainian will be Prypiat (in Ukrainian the letter и becomes a y in Latin, in Russian the same letter becomes an i. While in Ukrainian the transliteration of я can come out either as ya or ia. Then you just remove the markers ‘ and ь to simplify it down to Prypiat, much easier to spell and more recognizable to non-East Slavic speakers)
Belarusian, as always, has to be bloody different. In Belarusian it becomes Прып’яць (Pryp’jać)
So, should you change your name to Partyzan then? :D
That would technically be correct in Ukrainian yes. But I’ve had my username spelled like this since 2013 so changing it now would just feel weird lmao
Yeah, no problem, I'm just kidding
I wouldn’t recommend ZRP for SoC because it simply isn’t needed and it brings new bugs into the game
^^
Cheeki breeki, fellow S.T.A.L.K.E.R.S.:)

Im actually gonna scream
I just booted up my laptop and all of a sudden my saves aren't there
Like bro I was preparing for endgame and this is what happens
Okay it's back now but I can't open any saves without em crashing
load older saves
How old? Like 5 saves or the last mission kinda old?
If you show crash logs we can say for sure
If SoC changed it after 17 you can change it after 12 
But tbf even GSC is not really consistent with that, e.g. Bes was changed to Bis in console release but still left as Bes in HoC. Vice versa for Mikluha/Myklukha.
I’d appreciate if they just made whole new English translations from Ukrainian instead of doing those minor spelling changes tbh.
All games suffer from outdated texts when played in English and CoP has a terrible voice acting on top of that.
just keep going back until you find one that loads
are the ones that crash made in Pripyat?
Reason: Posted an invite
Reason: Posted an invite
Reason: Posted an invite
Hi, does anyone know a page with more stalker mods (the classic ones) that isn't modb? Sorry for my bad English,thanks
Appro it's russian but depending on the browser you use you can have it translate the page for you
I know edge does have that feature
thanks
Lmao, I think I just witnessed a loner walking into a fireplace and burning to death.
Turns out they don't spawn dead, they spawn alive and burn to death.
play stalker 2 to find out 
there's a certain 🐺 that loves doing this
SoC, CS, and CoP should also be able to tell you how good or bad the C-Consciousness is lol
Its not answer.
Played them all, but still cant find answer. In CS i missed C-Consciousness. In CoP is there any C-Consciousness at all ? Seems like only in SoC C-Consciousness appeared.
Oh if you’re asking for actual appearances of the C-Consciousness then SoC I believe is the only one. Im sure at least CoP at least mentions it at some point. As for S2 I cannot say really.
Well, in SoC they said that they only want to contain zone, to make it stable, this is why they offer to Gunslinger a place in C-consciousness. If he denies and kill all members of C-Consciousness zone becomes more unstable, more blowouts happens. Also, in "destroy" ending i hear some voices when Gunslinger leave CNPP. Cant find if anyone else hears them and what this supposed to mean.
Gunslinger lol
Rifleman, Shooter, gunslinger or whatever name you prefer to translate. I'll stick to Strelok
@late condor have you ever knocked down spectators in the arena?
Yeah, Gunslinger is Strelok, because Стрелок is Gunslinger.
Yeah though for some reason it feels like only some can be knocked down
how do you do that?
Find the one that's not behind metal bars and literally try to push them out like physical objects, easiest with a grenade
is it possible to push him out the arena?
The arena you fight in is underground the rest of the Bar area so even if it were possible you would push him out of bounds at best lol
so the arena that's in Rostok is fake?
Yeah
The interior is slightly different too
In bildos you fought in actual arena
yeah I noticed the arena in Rostok looks different from the actual arena you fight in
but when you're fighting in the arena it still shows you in the correct place on the minimap
I think the reason they made it separate is to ensure other NPCs don’t react to arena fights
That does still happen though although rare
But you can sometimes see a loner literally come through the ceiling
lmao
hey guys im replaying soc once again and ive never properly learned what the deal with artefact combos is
wasnt there something special that happened when you have 5 of the same artefact/artefact type equipped
also should i keep fast shooting ak or obokan?
the only combos I know is 4 artifacts with the same +30% resistance type that let you repair your armor using an anomaly, maybe @late condor knows more
Obokan has better accuracy iirc
yeah ive heard about that but im not sure of the details, i never properly figured it out
apparently it doesnt
that was the springs right?
or wait no i remember it now
check the crosshair
springs and other artifacts
huh youre right, weird
but wait, if spring has impact resistance, then how do you heal using it?
do you take fall damage? lol
springboard anomaly
aah, right
i forgot i thought they deal rapid bleeding damage
either way im gonna be looking for the resistance artifacts, i cant remember a good way to get the ones in the alcove
that too
getting stuck in collision is the fastest
Well combining stamina artifacts makes sense, 5 souls let you heal really fast as well but I wouldn’t keep them on as they decrease resistance, it’s better to heal and take them off.
There is no bleeding damage in the game, only some damage types that cause bleeding
yeah, I wish you could hotkey artifact presets
I think mechanically soc has the most interesting artifact balance out of the entire trilogy + S2 as the drawbacks are actually unique
But there aren’t many combos per se, it would be interesting to have some artifacts cancel out the others
yeah, artifacts having only radiation penalty in later stalkers was pretty boring tbh
hello
how can i change the language in this game? i have been looking for like 20 mins in the settings and i cant find it
If you’re on console, it’s in settings. If you’re on PC, your install by default contains only one language. Changing it in Steam is going to Properties and selecting a different language there.
I have it cracked :((
Buy the games and problem solved
i cant
Job?
underaged
Then find amother version that will have your language reinstalled.
Keep pirate talk to dms
hmm.. i can tell you in the dm
I thought it will dm me rank and stuff, and I can't delete this crap. so, nevermind
Deleted it for you
thanks
Hey is this the right place for questions regaurding stalker: anomaly?
Reason: Bad word usage
i think i did something wrong, how do i get the meet with guide quest? i already looted ghosts corpse
Usually you do that by looting ghost's corpse yes, did you visit Strelok's stash back when you were in Agroprom underground?
Yes i looted everything in there
Yeah you should get a quest on looting Ghost in this case. If you are playing vanilla you can send me your save and I can take a look.
i still have the find' strelok's group stash mission from agroprom hanging around which is weird because i have the find the stash objective finished on it
Ah shit
doesnt this mean that
Reason: Bad word usage
i think i irrepairably missed something
Well
Yeah, kind of.
I think you have to load a save BEFORE you complete X16 and go back to finish the agroprom mission.
yeah i might do that
what did i miss though
You should have gotten into the stash and picked up a flash drive in there.
can i load a save from after disabling the psi emission but before grabbing his corpse loot and go back to agroprom like that
No, X16 is only completed one-way, you can't return to Ghost's corpse the second time.
That one should be fine.
also should i give up his suit to sakharov
i already have half a million in monopoly money
SSP-99M is goated
mightaswell get the nightstar from agroprom if it doesnt spawn out of bounds again
also i feel bad about killing the deserter should i do it anyway lol
It spawns at the beginning of the game.
literally hugging the fence
yes but i never got it
only now i returned for it and its there but i cannot get it
is there a toggle collision command?
i think there was one in multipalyer
no, but you can pick it up with demo_record.
nvm it was a stone flower
also i cant seem to pick it up with demo record either way
i forgot how demo record worked i know there was a way to drop down where you are with thecamera but i forgot how
so i got the flash drive from agroprom but the find a way to escape the underground objective still isnt finished
i already got the documents a long time ago
It should just finish when you walk out to the exit near the institute
it kinda didnt yeah
i left agroprom with the flash drive and i got the note
but that objective still didnt work
im not sure if this will be a problem or not.
No idea xd, you’re the first person I am seeing who missed Strelok’s stash flash and went there that late.
well do i need to have agroprom stash quest completed to get meet guide lol
Worst case scenario you can get someone else’s saves and continue from them
I know you need to get the flash drive but I don’t know if you need to get the whole quest completed
guess ill find out
hey do most mods work on existing save files btw or would i need to start a new game if i want to mod back in unused/cut content
Any mod is a new save with very specific exceptions. You also can’t combine mods.
it worked i got the quest to meet the guide
Good luck with getting the right ending now, it should answer most of your questions.
yeah i think im fine now
thanks
one question
which tunder is better
like should i keep the 9x39 one or the 5.45 one
you can find more ammo to 5.45 tunder
when 9x39 tunder just makes more damage and i think bigger penetration. I don't know I should replay SoC
maybe you should
yes
is SSP-99M better than PSZ-9Md
ye
One of the best suits in the game. Only real downside is the durability is fairly low
durability?
Yeah like its condition goes down relatively quickly
you said earlier you finished CS
Is there any way to play SoC with ukrainian voice over and english subs?
Yes there are mods that do that: https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker/addons/english-subtitles-for-ukrainian
If you’re on console you can just select VA and text language in settings separately
Though the mod is still better as it retranslates the game instead of just putting a different voice acting
"So, Marked One, I saved you and I'm not gonna pretend I did it to win favors upstairs. You do some jobs for me, and we're even. Besides, keeping you busy might be a good way to deal with your amnesia. And I'll see what I can find out about your problem. I don't give a shit why you want to find this Strelok guy and mind my own business. If you want to kill him, well, you must have your reasons."

What is your favorite mod for the game?
The only downside is this doesn’t work with ZRP the massive bug fixing patch
ZRP is a really bad mod either way and I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone doing their first playthrough.

Zrp causes more problems then it solves
really?
okay thanks for the heads up
I really wouldn’t quote tejas but yeah most of its “fixes” are not fixes at all.
Reason: Bad word usage
should i ditch my ssp-99m and get an exo
If you are ok with not being able to run, it might be worth it. Do ntoe you're getting far less anomalous and radiation protection though.
does the regular exo also improve carry weight
Yeah, it does give you extra 20kg.
does the barrier armor appear in soc, or seraphim
Sorry I'm not sure i get what you mean by that
#📸┃trilogy-screenshots are for that
ok check it
yes
I’ve got 0 idea what those are but it’s definitely not something from a stalker game xD
well thats alright
Reason: Bad word usage
Noooo CS and CoP channels :(
Finally en_stalker is back 
is this the merge event
74U? It ain't bad just needs upgrading
I always play very low - minimum
mine is low as well, yet balanced
as long as i can turn comfortably without picking up my mouse i'm fine
2.2 maybe depending on the game
nooo CS channel 
got confused at first, didn't realize they merged all 3 into single channel
But at least now we can say for sure that lotz is not the same as trilogy 
Wasn’t there a thing in maybe CS and probably also CoP where gun stats was lowered to incentivize people to upgrade their guns?
Yeah base stats were slightly lower than their SoC versions, but they are better when upgraded
Better should have renamed #📸┃trilogy-screenshots to #!!!NOT_STALKER_2!!!_trilogy_screenshots_and_videos
Real
bruh i got bored playing Call of Pripyat
feels so empty , it was fun at first hour or so but after on it's just boring
CoP is more about exploration and free roaming.
Main missions are meh, but side missions are pretty good
i agree with that
Though Zaton indeed felt a bit empty for me too
also ragdoll and gunplay feels off
But after I moved to Jupiter there were a lot more stuff to do
didn't reach that yet
Alright, just finished CoP, and thus the trilogy.
Time to dive into the shithole called Overhaul Mods 
Not sure, but for some reason I didn't want to use anything but shotguns
I still used rifles, but rarely. Mostly when I needed to snipe someone
i use same sensitivity and it feels off
worst part about CoP is how empty it is
at least gunfights in first 2 games will give you a reason to engage in game
maybe because bandits are no longer hostile to you, and you just roam around occasionally killing zombies or mutants, idk
i'm not really picky in these stuff, but I can say there were a lot more gunfights in previous games
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1o996FD2lx1rlHUwY9fmaFo-g_fE9uXPmrx_PoaXsI3Y/htmlview?pli=1#gid=0 @zealous lantern here's some lists of mods to take a peak at from fellow stalker chymo
Looks familiar. I think I've seen this link in someone's bio in this channel. Looks like there's a lot to pick from. Thanks!
Ah, of course, it was the Emperor of Cat Kind!
if you're native ukrainan speaker you do have a wider catalogue of UA translations, check out https://stalker2fenomen.at.ua/load/
oh wait it seems to be dead

The link works for me
But overall there weren't any new posts since 2022. And some download links are dead, and some are not.
thanks anyways
the download links don't unfortunately
doesn't matter, we can still lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
Iirc they lowered gun stats at least in CoP but made the upgrades more noticeable because guns were too good in SoC that there wasn’t a need to get any upgrades on guns done.
i lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
i lobe clear sky
i hate- i mean lobe clear sky
big shame.
bro why do i keep getting Fallout shorts and videos on yt
gotta admit it kind of makes sense to play Fallout after stalker series
Yall what happened to the seperate games channels
i cant find em, clear sky, call of pripyat or soc
It's now one channel
Bruh
So real. I lobe clear sky
what
nothing

hey lets peace
🫱 shall we?
alright
🤝 
im doing that mission in cop with the trade, i keep failing the mission kill the witnesses, what do i do?
For clear sky. Uh. Can you get those stalkers to move from yantar to garbage without killing the duty soldiers? Also could I just join up with another faction then rejoin the loners so the war would reset?
"Marked one! You were the Shadow of Chernobyl?!?!?!"
"Scar, these skies are pretty clear..."
"I hear it... The Call Of Pripyat..."
War won't reset
there is no reset mechanic, war goes on whether you are in or out
Dang. So will they just perpetually be at a stalemate unless i like. Kill a loner squad?
Cuz I know what's causing it. Bandits are at 0 resources
Resources just controls the equipment of new squads
Stalemate? Are there a duty squad and a loner squad trying to claim the same point?
Bandits are at 0 resources in garbage. Loners squads refuse to move even while being attacked
Faction resources have nothing to do with that
It's like the ai think the loners already won even tho the bandits still control the garbage
It's the loner spawn-cap that's the issue as far as I can tell
Plus their shift to the yantar spawnpoint after the roads to the cordon are taken
Without killing friendlies/neutrals? You don't
Ah. So is that why I need to kill that duty squad on the road to agroprom? Or would I need to kill a loner squad or two?
But let me emphasize, the reputation impact from killing 2 or 3 squads is easilly fixed
Killing loners in this situation wouldn't help, they'd just respawn at yantar
Dang. Even tho I've not like been there yet? Do they automatically switch when you move to garbage?
They automatically switch when your objective becomes capturing the depot
Daaang
Question though
Is there any squad on the road to agroprom on the garbage?
(The point just east of the depot)
There is a duty squad on the entrance to agroprom yes
That's good, if it were empty you'd be out of luck
So are those guys stoppin the guys from yantar from moving to assist garbage?
The duty squads at the agroprom and garbage exit block the loners, yes
Biggest flaw in the faction war system imho, neutrals aren't let through
So as soon as I kill them the squads will start movin?
When you kill the dutiers at the agroprom exit, yes
Killing the dutiers at the garbage is best done with a mission receives of the loner squads that moved up
? Like one of the loner side missions?
Once two squads of loners have taken the place of the dutiers you cleared out, they can offer a mission to capture the point held by the duty squad at the garbage. It's better to do that because then you can be pretty sure that that squad will capture the point when you do. Squads might not move in to capture if you do it without the mission
If you're not sure what that's supposed to look like, I demonstrated it in that one video
Gotya. What happens if duty don't hold any positions in garbage? Will nothing happen or will they just continue moving to take more positions?
That's what I meant with that point needing to be held by a squad
Ah
If that point is empty, you're likely to be out of luck
Weird.
I think we're misundertanding eachother
Can you send another screenshot? One with the depot on it?
Yup
I am yea
At this point duty won't be at the garbage
Do they move in there at a later point?
Yeah, at some point you habe some business with duty. Afyer you conclude there they will start their faction war with freedom and spread out
Ah ok. So wait to kill the guys at agroprom yea?
Like. Kill them after doing stuff for duty?
Well, wait and see IF they take the exit on the garbage side
Alrighty. So if they take that spot kill the dutyers there and at the entrance to agroprom. Gotya
Yeah, otherwise the only real way to have loners occupy the depot would be the fleamarket spawnpoint, and you wouldn't enjoy the amount of killing required for that :' )
agroprom, absolutely agroprom
killing the guys at the garbage first with no squad rearing to take its place would leave it unoccupied and un-targetable for squads, breaking the faction wars for loners, duty and freedom
Gotya. Also how would I get my rep back up with duty? Can I do the thing where you help them take positions thing? Like how you can help the loners take the farmstead ruins back as a repeatable?
admittedly, duty is the hardest faction to gain reputation with without joining them
but you should be able to get a chunk back from their fetch-quests in agroprom, red forest, and the army warehouses
Gotya. You get those from squad leaders right? I've not been able to get any from the loner squads yet tbh
Like. How many bars would I lose from killing the squads I need to kill?
just north of duty's base there's also a point they like to occupy. on occasion it gets attacked and requests help(but I think they only get attacked if they're already weakened in numbers)
Gotya
3 bars at most
first you need to complete all fetch quests at the swamps, then the fetch quests at the cordon become available
Ohhhh
after that garbage(most likely), dark valley, agroprom
Dang. I kinda just didn't do those lmao