☢┃stalker-general

[sturdy verge]

thing is there will always be bugs, fixes that need fixes like every game out there.. real question to yourself is do you want to put up with that ?

[sage mist]

I don't have any mods man.. just please help me fix it.. I've spent more time waiting for stalker 2 to get to the main menu than actually playing it

[thin moat]

i would not be bother of bugs and all that since i know there will be something here or there so for be its nothing its just idk i want to really enjoy it but if it very few things to do or alooot of things there . and i i really like the stalker survival gameplay and i know that its not in yet but what happen after the campaign and all that

[sturdy verge]

well it is definitely more playable and enjoyable as each hotfixed has happened but that is my view on it, in the end it really depends on how you want to look at it while playing it..

[thin moat]

so probly wait lets say give it 3-4 months and then try it out i have thinking like that

[sturdy verge]

if that's what you want to do go for it 🙂 do what you feel is best for you.

or if you have xbox pc pass or even get a free 7 day one, play it on there test it out, like it buy it if ya want, dont like it well ya saved money then

[weary hedge]

Ocksajen (Oxygen)

[hollow pelican]

I seem to have a problem

[maiden grotto]

Really, going to have to check that out.

That is something interesting.

Do you get anything for it?

[hollow pelican]

so not sure why but the game just wont even start when pressing any key or button after the shader thing comes up

[maiden grotto]

I think i have that... get on the pipes from the other building

[shrewd kindle]

Yeah it’s the baby blue camo armor, really dislike the color of it but it turns you into a walking tank lol

[maiden grotto]

I think it makes them more visible...

But i just run up to them with shotties and let rip.

But that is interesting and a really nice touch.

[maiden grotto]

Nothing wrong with baby blue 🤣

[shrewd kindle]

Takes a certain kind of crazy to wear bright blue camo in an area filled with monsters and bandits. Kinda suits scar

[jolly oak]

That dude survived my "rescue" but all he says is don't get in his way. He's a fool XD

[marble onyx]

can you get to malachite before main quest if you have pass ?

[sturdy verge]

i ran into six fingered(that name lolol) yesterday at the monolith hospital lol and the ninth 😄

[marble onyx]

why the hell snbipers at duga one shot u 😄

[velvet leaf]

My eyes hurt after trying to beat the flashbag anomaly and get an artifact for 30 minutes. Is there any way to get an artifact? I used like 20 med kits and that was NOT enough.

[sturdy verge]

at cordon military at the edge i got one shot too LMAO i just wanted to snoop around the building not inside LMAO

[marble onyx]

thats rly stupid, i dont even play veteran, im on stalker diff and in diamond exo ...

[sturdy verge]

let me be noseyyyy hahahah

[edgy wren]

Flashbangs do seems to follow you as well I think.
Or at least being pushed?

[sturdy verge]

yeah going to turn us into blind dogs lmao

[maiden grotto]

It's a love tap.

[edgy wren]

How I know it seems to follow me is when I was away from it and kept tossing bolts, then it just went right up to my face.

[sturdy verge]

think there is a bug too where he says we meet again but it didnt happen for me, will try again and see if it does.

[hollow wave]

"Time stopped rolling after i had to ROLL back on my saves from the kaymanov ending , ive been walking around for a about an hour; started at 5am and its still 5am"

Im on Xbox series x and im tryna get time to roll again, any help would be appreciated

[sturdy verge]

yessss, i liked him was hoping to see him before that again with noon at wild island.

[velvet leaf]

Nah, I gave up. I was like five meters away from an artifact, but you have to deal with a combo of flash bags AND radiation, so I simply reloaded an earlier save to move back to Yaniv. My eyes started to hurt after like 40 flash bangs🙁

[wintry pumice]

You can't. Do you see the compass go red?

[edgy wren]

Oh yeah, while I was in the red forest and bumped into mercs, the corps shows up doing nothing about the situation until their group get hit by the merc's grenade but didn't return fire or pissed at them.
Also ahh.

[wintry pumice]

More importantly they break all your stuff adding to the repair cost

[marble onyx]

that most annoying anomaly def

[edgy wren]

Gif doesn't work it seems.

[marble onyx]

i managed to finnaly get a save that allow me to play and does not crash in stash .. just before duga so not much of a loss.. but 3 days of trying to fix it just got me too much i dont even want to play for some reason 😄

[velvet leaf]

I’m playing with Boosteroid, so it’s not an option for me. I will just skip this artifact. This is the second time that I fail to grab an artifact near this anomaly. Flashbangs are the most annoying thing about this game.

[late moth]

is the 5.45 conversion for the kharod good?

[simple shard]

Unequivocally yes

[edgy wren]

Yeah gif things are broken in this server.
Oh just like from the quests for Corps where the people you need to kill can be Freedomer or loners cause they killed their men.

[simple shard]

Still waiting on sidorovich nude mod

[sturdy verge]

i can see it now, laying in a bunk with a ton of chicken everywhere 😄

[slender pawn]

Im guessing we all "know" in the future there will be a stalker 2 anomly/gama type mod

[simple shard]

I just accept that the zone has altered cartridges & calibers, barrel lengths, grain, suppressors, etc. to where they all do fantasy things to guns that c-con scientists believed to be true and thus now it is that way, in the zone. This is also why enemy broken weapons with 2 rounds in them fire accurately and fully automatic at ranges over 150 meters, the enemies simply do not realize they're broken and low on ammo and the zone makes their delusions true until you kill them and open their inventory. Chekhovs gun? No, schrodingers gun.

Uninformed CoD mindset when connecting to the noosphere gave the zone cartoon logic

[simple shard]

Once the SDK drops, after patches have slowed and potentially DLC has been released, is when we'll start seeing more cohesive overhaul for sure. I'll be ready to commit to modding at that point, until then it's wasted energy for my tastes

[late moth]

is the assault rifle silencer worth using?

[celest osprey]

Has GSC released any infromation about what the multiplayer will be?

[sturdy verge]

not that i know of but they did mention a roadmap being shown next year 🙂

[slender pawn]

Agreed, there are confirmed 2 DLC at this moment we have no idea what they are or what will be released in them expect for their attempt at a "multiplayer" mode but i am very enjoying the game and sad that there is no freeroam mode when you finish the game so i am just sitting here waiting for more announcements of the future of modding and the game

[celest osprey]

Wish they dropped MP and fixed the game tho xD

[sturdy verge]

yeah its mentioned in announcements that early 2025 more updates or something but dont know what yet

[slender pawn]

They also announced a roadmap at the start of 2025 per there words

[celest osprey]

Had to stop playing because the latest patch made things worse for me. NPC's are raining from the sky and getting shot through things randomly is quite annoying.

[sturdy verge]

dang, that sucks. Its been great for me

[simple shard]

Thx for the rec, still planning on holding off until patches slow down at least, don't like having to fuss with broken mods

[celest osprey]

At least I know when large group of NPC's will spawn - the game stutters like hell 😄

[shrewd kindle]

The svu is an absolute beast of a rifle in this game, but man it feels like it’s made of paper the way it chews through durability lol

[slender pawn]

i feel as it is like to early to start modding imo, im waiting for the roadmap to see how long i really have to wait till new content

[paper pine]

I am enjoying the first wave of A life changes looking forward to further fixes

[celest osprey]

Same.

[sturdy verge]

me toooooooooooooooooooo! saved me many times when i ran out of ammo 😄

[paper pine]

Lately when the holidays got stressful just wandering the zone in the rain or breeze and sheltering in abandoned buildings sipping vodka and snacking on canned food and bread is extremely relaxing

[slender pawn]

can we agree at least skif is a good protagonist in the game?

[maiden grotto]

STALKER, I have some meat, you need a job, you stratch.... my back and i'll scratch yours.

[paper pine]

Skif is the most relatable stalker protag so far i think the others had much greater purpose and were fun to play as but skif is just, a guy and thats cool

[shrewd kindle]

The ultimate apartment hunter

[paper pine]

man just wants that primo real estate. And i'd wanna keep all the cool shit i found in the zone if i were him too

[maiden grotto]

Strelok

[slender pawn]

all endings are super confusing imo, but it leaves more for me to be intrigued

[sturdy verge]

skiff will sit on that brand new couch for 5 mins get right back up and head back to the zone lol 'i'm looking for a new couch'

[slender pawn]

eh the first game shapes strelok and the character but you cant really relate to him, due to everyother game trying to stop him or making him in a bad image

[shrewd kindle]

“The zone owes me a new flat screen”

[stark crescent]

i listened to both english and ukranian korshunov. i think english korshunov speaks with more authority. more heart.

[maiden grotto]

Think they are all awful tbh.... to the point i have no interest in competent the game.

[stark crescent]

"i will shoot each and everyone of you, until i earned enough useless bonds, that its paper will pay for the down payment of my appartment."

[sturdy verge]

"Zone owes me a fridge full of non energy drinks, need more paper for it"

[slender pawn]

i disagree there all unique in there own ways i was most confused by the skif ending but the others make 100% sense if you payed attention to the game.

[maiden grotto]

I consider the other ones dlc.

Strelok for me is what thecstory is about.

[stark crescent]

"need more bonds. i better start a side hustle where i lure stalkers into a pit of bloodsuckers"

[sturdy verge]

10 years later, quiet is still contacting skiff asking when he will get that advance from sid

[slender pawn]

The Strelok one makes the most sense due to us knowing Strelok for so long, but the Devs have confirmed Skif as the cannon ending.

[stark crescent]

honestly, the devs should have gone the fallout route, and allow us to built bases. the mod community would go absolutely ape shit on the possibilities.

[maiden grotto]

It's not that they don't b make sense or anything. It is simply that I just don't like them.

Just not for me.

[simple shard]

skif is so cooked hes willing to tag along helping scar get the equipment to start a meth lab and talk to ghosts because he thinks it will somehow buy him a new laundry basket later

[sturdy verge]

aw never got to see skifs face just his green eyes 😄 does he have hair? does he have yellow teeth?

[stark fossil]

Hey if you wanna feel how old FPS movement felt like in games, take out your detector whale sprinting. For a brief moment you’ll be Marty McFly😄

[stark crescent]

"i will built a wall so big, that not even an emission can get over it. and i will let the ward pay for it"

vote for me, john sidorovich, and i will make the zone great again!!

[maiden grotto]

Hell no... that is the one thing this game doesn't need.

[sturdy verge]

scars ending: hahahah this looks so real! something is tickling my ....scratches shows dog eating ya ..... lol

[dense quartz]

Without mods is there a % possibility that npcs drop armor when you kill them or is this just possible with a mod?

[stark fossil]

This guy...should.t he be some side quest thingy?

[paper pine]

man if i were Skif i'd kick back in my new apartment and just stare at all the artifacts I had on display

[stark crescent]

i think the idea itself is great. the zone is absolutely massive. and we already know that 2 area's are gonna be added through the dlc's. so its gonna be even bigger. you can claim an area. built a base for hte faction of your choosing. it adds to the longevity of the game. if more modding is allowed, you attract more players, cause the game speaks to a wider audience. not just those coming for the zone, but those who mod as well. fallout can only be dragged on for so long. modders need a new challenge.

[sturdy verge]

i killed a monolith and he had a suit 😄 same for a military

[marble onyx]

u need to be very lucky to get one 😄 but yes it is possible i got exo once when i was roaming pripyat for first time i visited it

[sturdy verge]

welp i hope the ones who come play when mods are in that they play vanilla first experience it and all then do the mods.. cause most will end up just spawning in money and gear.. like example using some unlimited sprint mod.. when you can just get artifacts for that 😄

[dense quartz]

Thanks for the answers guys!

[stark crescent]

what do you think what will happen once stellar blade releases on the pc? every modder in existance is gonna turn that game into a gamer's fever dream. GSC needs to be quick with their mod support

[stark crescent]

some games really become better with mods. like how for mechwarrior 5 the mechlabs expanded the ability to modify your mech. and i was there on the discord when those modders discussed all the difficulties of modding. and from that difficulty, they created some of the best mods.

[maiden grotto]

Occupy existing building yeah... build from scratch no.

Doesn't fit with the game

[stark crescent]

cosmetically alter the buildings already existing on the premise. create an actual bedroom. add a radio here n there. maybe built some traps.

have you ever used console commands and noclip through the map? the devs themselves experimented alot with the textures they got in the game. i have seen entire rooms half completed under the map. not visible through any normal means. i think the devs forgot to remove them. which might explain some frame drops here n there

[sturdy verge]

oh got a question, does anyone know if that cabin is still around that had some crazy guy in it always yelling stay away think it was outside of freedoms base in SoC.

[rough crater]

there is so much running back and forth with no fast travel points nearby, i hate this, its getting pointlessly tedious

[chrome jetty]

None of the endings actually makes sense, just as S2 writing

[maiden grotto]

Nope... most of the rooms are half finished cause they rushed to finish the game.

[slender pawn]

How does the Strelok one not make sense?

[stark crescent]

noah?

[sturdy verge]

nah noah was in a ship this other guy was in a cabin in a swamp right outside freedoms base and when ya pass him you end up fighting some monoliths as well.

he says ''im insane! I belong in an asylum!'

[rough crater]

whole left side of map i got no travel points because malachite becomes red after a quest >_>

[stark crescent]

how would the strelok ending make sense. one hermit guy, hunted down by maybe a hundred sleeper agents, unable to move freely anywhere near the generators, who is now protected by thousands of striders.

vs the ward, a government backed organization with multiple bases, vehicles that can appearently survive the zone anomalies, with sircaa, a scientific institute that can freaking grow artifacts like if they are apples.

[slender pawn]

He has always been hunted his whole life before SOC story wise aswell in clear sky, "Kill The Sterlok". But his whole goal in all games is to stop the zone/destroy and thats what he exactly has done?

[gloomy citrus]

@ripe falcon Any lore video about S2?

[stark crescent]

AND AGATHA!!! what is her role in this entire story? she always appears here, but not here. we can figure out on our own that agatha always appear in hologram form, maybe she is even a psi agent herself. which means that her actual living body is being protected somewhere. but she seems to be the one in control of sircaa

[sturdy verge]

we shall see soon i bet, she plays a good villain.

[sturdy verge]

I did find a pda where he sounded confused as if he was reprogammed again and waking up from it, stating his name and that he used to work for sircaa etc etc etc

[slender pawn]

i only saw her once due to my story decisions so i cant say much on her. she seems intresting though.

[chrome jetty]

How is a single pod capable of controlling the Zone that much?

[slender pawn]

the other are "dead"

[chrome jetty]

Okay and?

[sturdy verge]

if skiffs in that pod is he controlling it even tho he 'gave it freedom'

[slender pawn]

So whoever goes in would have the most influence?

[chrome jetty]

What about C-Con/SoC lore?

[hallow furnace]

How the hell do I stop psi radiation

[sturdy verge]

get preggo by a bloodsucker

[hallow furnace]

I can't play the game because of the psi radiation

[slender pawn]

what about what happens at the end of SOC then.

[chrome jetty]

You don't see the correlation lol

[rancid orbit]

Just say you’re dumb bro

[chrome jetty]

C-Con rep says that they cannot fully control the Zone nor the noosphere despite having 7 intellectual minds (pods)

While in HoC we only have 1 active pod and that single person is capable of controlling the Zone (and the World) a lot more than C-con was capable of?

[sturdy verge]

69 people would be better

[chrome jetty]

At least 8, even then they'd do it in order to contain the Zone

While in HoC there is only one dude?

Like lmao

[shrewd kindle]

Streloks just that smart

[chrome jetty]

The equipment is the same and is more aged than it previously was in SoC as well, so more reasons for that to simply not be possible

Despite the fact that Subtle Matter theory didn't exist

[rancid orbit]

Do you think something would be more effective with 7 different bosses or 1

[chrome jetty]

Ever played STALKER?

[shrewd kindle]

7 nerds < 1 strelok

[rancid orbit]

I finished my second playthrough today lolcow

[chrome jetty]

Shadow of Chernobyl

Not S2

[rancid orbit]

Yeah, I did radiophobia this time around

[chrome jetty]

Then i think you should know why your previous answer doesn't make any sense

[rough crater]

thanks ill check it out

[slender pawn]

im not 100% this makes sence but the second explosion to the creation of the zone was caused by the doctor yes? and he was supposed to be the 8th person in the pod. So possibly the pod wasn't at full "power" due ot missing a person like a 'Energy" or "fuze" the 8th person or piece was to put it into its full potential and sway the influence which created the endings. i don't know if that makes sense but it did in my head.

[chrome jetty]

Yet the 7 scientists are dead

I am talking based about the og STALKER lore

[gloomy citrus]

Thanks to the artifact?

oh

nevermind then

I wonder what they used before we replaced it with the artifact

[chrome jetty]

Doesn't make sense because the artifact didn't exist back then

If you look at just S2 lore you are only going to get a messed up lore that is incoherent with itself

[gloomy citrus]

Its there. Ever since the beginning.

Dont know how Strelok got it in the first place.

[slender pawn]

i was ab to say

[rancid orbit]

OG STALKER lore was full of weird contradictions, atleast this retcon actually makes sense and serves the narrative

[chrome jetty]

It's not Skif's artifact

[gloomy citrus]

hmm

[chrome jetty]

Nor it's Faust's artifact

[gloomy citrus]

I'm not an expert in this kind of thing.

I'm just glad I'm hearing the voices of the monolith again.

[chrome jetty]

Like? Tell me some examples that fucked up as much as S2 did

Go ahead

I am curious

[slender pawn]

he got it off of Strelok?

[chrome jetty]

Not the first time being incoherent with itself, we can also talk about the neuroprogramming TVs that don't affect Strelok but if you side with Scar it will not affect Scar

[slender pawn]

i fw the strider flashbacks

[rancid orbit]

In the true ending the zone looks like its gone which obviously isnt the case, also clear skys entire plot was invented out of thin air and didnt occur in SOC

[pure jasper]

I threw his corpse on a vortex .3.

[chrome jetty]

You really never played STALKER previously right?

Just say it, it's okay, no need to lie

[slender pawn]

i really like his character and lore.

[sturdy verge]

i said come in, dont stand there

[pure jasper]

Same
Still threw him in a vortex tho
I wanted the achievement, and he was the nearest corpse

[rancid orbit]

Im starting to think youre projecting.

[slender pawn]

wish he didnt die in a stupid way.

[pure jasper]

Fr
Mf looking all T-1000, but died like a lil b1tch

[chrome jetty]

Let's do something like this, i am looking for some high quality discussion regarding lore, you are making points that don't make sense, probably because you never cared about dialogues or because you never played the games or some other reason, so there's no point discussing with someone that doesn't know the lore to begin with

[wide ferry]

so uh, anyone else not getting emissions since the latest update?

[slender pawn]

also wait has doctor been faust the whole time in S2? or what happened.

[rancid orbit]

You didnt even know the heart of chernobyl was in the og games 😂 Stop talking lolcow

[chrome jetty]

@meager crag CS lore not canon btw, incoherent he says

[sturdy verge]

getting a good amount enough to run into some preacher at cement factory 😄

[chrome jetty]

Anyways, you are one of the few left that still knows the lore, the few are the loremasters, at least there's still C-Con tbh @grand warren

[stark crescent]

korshunov never lies to you, he has heart for the men under his command. and in the end, he wants the zone to be gone so everyone stops bickering over it. he even shot dalin because he was done with his scientist crap

[pure jasper]

Gun him down

[wide ferry]

I did not! I will have to give it a shot, thank you. I thought the Shining Zone revealed itself lmao

[meager crag]

Wat

[icy drum]

Kind of wish there was an ending with noontide, I enjoyed helping them

[pure jasper]

/give @e Emissionx100

[rancid orbit]

Anyways if any non-korean bug person wants to actually discuss and respond to my points id be happy to respond

[sturdy verge]

o.O ...

[slender pawn]

they got destroyed half way in so there is no way too.

[chrome jetty]

[meager crag]

I actually speculated that Strelok's artifact was indeed the Heart

[icy drum]

I know, sadly

[rancid orbit]

Its the exact same model bffr

[meager crag]

Anyways, what's the actual discussion

[shrewd kindle]

Can’t wait to find the kidney of Chornobyl

[sturdy verge]

how much we miss flint/magpie

[pure jasper]

Tf does the Heart even do .3.

[slender pawn]

What do the endings really mean/ if they make sense

[meager crag]

Yes, but that was before the game was actually out

[icy drum]

No idea, I didn't even use it after I shot him with 40mm grenades till he died

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-invincible-omni-man-jk-simmons-that's-the-neat-thing-gif-4390372980992221432

[violet dune]

GSC needs to make pre sequel dlc for the zone. before strelok.

[pure jasper]

Lmfaoo
Pancreas of Chornobyl

[slender pawn]

do we even have any hints at the two DLC's

[pure jasper]

.3.
I mean, it has to do something right
Its a unique artifact
What does it dooooo
Grahhhh i need to know

[shrewd kindle]

Prypiat’s bladder

[simple shard]

i dont actually care that they retconned and extrapolated from existing lore with artistic liberties to add/expand material. arguably some of the changes do make extant lore "worse" but it does make it more flexible imo, which is a fine enough direction to go if the expectation is that the series will continue

[violet dune]

the times when c-con was only on blueprints and scientist only trying to figure it out also sidorovich rookie village only starting gathering and all that good stuff. would be a banger

[rancid orbit]

Theres no info on any of the lore because s2 sucks and nobody wants to document

[slender pawn]

i would not say S2 sucks

[pure jasper]

3:<
You telling me no one actually tried the artefact to see what it does
Also heck you, the game is awesome

[simple shard]

i have to be honest this is the first place ive seen people putting the SoC story/narrative on some kind of untouchable pedestal

[meager crag]

||Ward: Full control over the Zone and seemingly more people. Skif becomes a Marked Agent||
||Spark: The Shining Zone has been revealed, just that it also means that those who are still currently alive got zombified||
||Strelok: The Zone is now protected. Nobody gets in, nobody gets out. Seen how the Stalkers rely on the supplies from the Big Land, everyone is doomed to die eventually||
||Skif: Multiple Zones get created all over the world. Also, Faust never died ||

[slender pawn]

lets be honest all stalker lore is confusing

[meager crag]

No clue whatsoever

[dense quartz]

The flashlight is so underwhelming i almost always forget that i have it on and when i try to turn it on i turn it off

[pure jasper]

[meager crag]

But is it defined in HoC?

[rancid orbit]

It gives you a bunch of healing effects. The lore blurb is basically “its mysterious ooohhh” so they dont have to explain it

[violet dune]

Scar one is super depressing.

[meager crag]

The Shining Zone is real

[slender pawn]

i understood all this but our argument earlier was if it made any sense due to past lore

[pure jasper]

Anything's real if your brain is fried enough

[shrewd kindle]

Yeah I can buy better flashlights at the dollar store, really hope they bump up it’s intensity because I like having dark nights

[simple shard]

flashlight is still the biggest crime S2 has inflicted on the series as it stands currently. absolutely atrocious, I assume due to some bizarre rendering issue or conflicting sources, but it's terrible. Needs circumference of light cone choked, light extended by like 5-10x, made brighter, obviously light sources should cast shadows, etc.

[meager crag]

Reality is what you think is real

[rancid orbit]

Its very average

[pure jasper]

Also also
Wtf is the Alpha Artefact.
Dalin said it was the thing that created the zone
Which sounds like complete bs

[dense quartz]

If you were in charge of the flashlight rework that would be awesome as you stated everything that is exactly wrong with it

[wide ferry]

Scar is actually just liquid ocelot

[meager crag]

10/10 story writing

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/liquid-ocelot-liquid-solid-snake-mgs-mgs4-gif-19383955

[violet dune]

i could see dlc starting from strelok ending or maybe ward.

[simple shard]

It's in a sad state to be sure. tbh I wish they had worked to fix that before re-implementing their first pass at a-life

[dense quartz]

The flashlight not casting shadows is btw one of the things thats super akward as the flashlight shadows bring such a great feeling and immersion and tension like in the first stalker titles

[pure jasper]

Just like you fr

[meager crag]

I'm thinking inbetween events, tbh

Before the endings of HoC

[shrewd kindle]

Have they mentioned if they’re gonna brighten up the flashlight?

[slender pawn]

i would think if anything i thought it would be Skifs

[meager crag]

Think so? At least they've heard about it

[simple shard]

the flashlight behavior alone accounts for seriously like 40% of stalker's atmosphere

[violet dune]

very possible. like cp77

[pure jasper]

Wait
The flashlight doesnt cast shadows ???
Damn, i never noticed

[meager crag]

If only we had malfunctioning night vision goggles like SoC

[dense quartz]

Yep 100%. Agroprom underground with the flashlight doesnt need any explanantion it speaks for itself

[sturdy verge]

||and skiff gets his nice new place||

[pure jasper]

Right
What does it do tho
Besides powering up the Wish Granter
Does it have any heebie jeebie powers, or is it just a portable energy generator

[shrewd kindle]

It makes apartments go boom

[meager crag]

So true

[sturdy verge]

why he wants a new one so desperately

[meager crag]

Now I want an Alpha Artifact RPG-7u

[pure jasper]

Oh so just like when I send people pipe bombs then

[violet dune]

skif just become "dark" from x3 lab... sadly

[meager crag]

It B wat it B

[dense quartz]

In times like this be careful with such comments or someone will knock violently on your door 🤣

[meager crag]

We can see what he sees on the monitor, just like Dark

Also, funnily enough, Sidorovich

Despite him never even going past the Garbage

[pure jasper]

Snubnosed RPG-7 with an alpha warhead would be sick

[slender pawn]

doesnt the wish granter just do what scar wanted

[meager crag]

[meager crag]

Nah

[sturdy verge]

also scar never told me how to avoid zombies! left me hanging and all

[meager crag]

The Wish Granter is also another weird retcon

It was an illusion

Now it's suddenly an actual thing?

[pure jasper]

Little do they know
My house is a tomb for feds

My doors are booby trapped

[wide ferry]

I really like the idea of the original Spark group tbh, it feels like a taste of Clear Sky before Scar took over

[chrome jetty]

First of all, are we talking about STALKER lore or S2 lore?

[meager crag]

Both

[chrome jetty]

STALKER og says that Monolith doesn't exist, it's canon

[pure jasper]

Its a machine
Tjat creates an illusion
Which SIRCAA stupidly turned on again

[meager crag]

Exactly

[slender pawn]

i really liked star or whatever the second in command in spark was

[maiden grotto]

It wasn't... The only one i never finished was clear sky.

[simple shard]

it is critical to the board's and by proxy the ward's grander strategy to monitor exactly how much chicken is consumed in that bunker on an ongoing basis

[meager crag]

Except now HoC says it's not an illusion, but an actual creation, a machine or something like that

[chrome jetty]

S2 says it isn't an illusion if you side with Spark, but it's not the og STALKER lore so not canon of the og STALKER timeline

[violet dune]

Star i think, but he also nuts a bit

[pure jasper]

I like it
Means I have a physical thing to worship uwu

[rancid orbit]

You missed a cutscene

[meager crag]

Does it even matter if it's physical or not?

[pure jasper]

Yes
Cuz if its physical, i can do blood sacrifices to it :3
And force non believers to touch it

[simple shard]

stalker 2 is essentially unreliable narrators across the board, with skif's own recollection (and thus the narrative as you see it play out in different mutually exclusive ways, based on your choices) being one of them

i don't necessarily see that as clever writing on the part of GSC, but rather the only way to actually interpret the continuity as detailed in S2

[chrome jetty]

Remain? There were multiple documents of S2 (2011) that were scrapped and perfectly fitted with STALKER lore

[spark badger]

I always thought the monolith was a physical object that produced psi illusions

[chrome jetty]

It's obviously because a part of the og writers went to 4A or somewhere else

[pure jasper]

It is what S2 says

[chrome jetty]

It's what the STALKER trilogy says, but on S2 depending on who you side with, the Monolith is real

[spark badger]

Yeah, when I played the original I just assumed it was a physical thing too though. I may have missed something though

[meager crag]

Okay, first of all, both of those aren't actual Monolithian rituals. Secondly, they shoot everyone on sight except when they're slowly turning into Monolithians which is, to my knowledge, not possible in HoC's time

[frigid hill]

yeoldenfelixuwu has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[simple shard]

true, yea

[maiden grotto]

Clear sky

[pure jasper]

Who said I cant do sacrifices for the monolith

[spark badger]

I must have missed that stuff

[slender pawn]

Im not tryna argue but what does striders flashbacks prove

[simple shard]

striders brain was gumbo for the c-con's gumbo pot

[chrome jetty]

Nothing, it just shows that Strider was there during Operation Monolith and that the Monolith somehow micro manages everything like in CoH

[chrome jetty]

Which also doesn't make any sense regarding the Monolith voices telling them where to aim

[meager crag]

Also, another thing, apparently all Monolithians forgot who they were before turning back to normal, but Strider in CoP actually remembers a little bit of his past before het got brainwashed

[pure jasper]

Somehow, i feel like C-Con isnt very trustworthy

[chrome jetty]

That too lmfaooo

[slender pawn]

im newish to the community but what are we tryna argue that the monolith is?

[violet dune]

i have screenshots me chilling with monolithians. @maiden grotto yes, but the zone was already created. im talking about even earlier days. how everything started and people start gathering in the zone.

[chrome jetty]

The Monolith is in fact just an illusion created by the C-Consciousness as a failsafe in order to protect themselves and the secret of the Zone so it won't jeopardize their plans

[slender pawn]

i thought it was just them brainwashed from the wish granter?

[pure jasper]

Doesnt mean the illusiom cant come from a machine tho

[meager crag]

This is, in fact, more confusing than Fallout retcons

[chrome jetty]

?

[spark badger]

Tbf, S2 takes place like ten years later. It's not out of the question that people could recover parts of their memories.

[paper trail]

I love that you get so many different cutscenes and perspectives going full ward or full what ever the other side is.

[meager crag]

Except I'm saying Strider remembers his past back in CoP, but suddenly all Monolithians forgot their past in HoC, which is 9 years later

[simple shard]

it's not really an argument, we know what the monolith is in call of chernobyl, S2 muddies the waters and introduces vastly disparate realities depending on player choice. thus, it is best to say that in stalker 2 skif has been smoking whatever scar has been and whatever you see that conflicts either isn't real or is skewed after the 'canon' ending
assuming you care at all about them actually lining up at all anyway, that's pure headcanon

[chrome jetty]

**Except Faust

[pure jasper]

Heck
Uhhhh
They made a spare physical version in case the emmiters broke .3. ?

[meager crag]

That too, but Faust is special

[chrome jetty]

Call of Chernobyl?

Come again?

[meager crag]

Faust actually remembers his past WHILE being a Monolithian

[chrome jetty]

***"Monolithian"

[meager crag]

Uh, Call of Chernobyl is a mod

[simple shard]

Shadow, of course, derp, not the mod

[maiden grotto]

Don't think so.

SoC several times, nothing was mentioned. As far as i can remember.

[spark badger]

Faust seems to remember everything, although he's definitely special

[meager crag]

Heart of Chernobyl was never mentioned in the Trilogy, so yeah

[pure jasper]

Ngl, Rainbow Emmitter sounds like some gay conspiracy

[slender pawn]

what was at the ward base that made skif go crazy and hallucinate

[tepid osprey]

Stalker 3: Call of the Mobile, the new mobile game!

[meager crag]

Yeah, he's the only one who remembers his time as a Monolithian (the brainwashed one, not the pre-CS one)

[chrome jetty]

Yeppers, it also wouldn't make much sense for it to exist, there's no mention about it in the documents as well

[simple shard]

stalker 2 heart of chornobyl more like walker poo fart of bore snore ville
LMAO!

[pure jasper]

Wish Granter, Machine Edition™️

[meager crag]

I don't know anything about the documents, I just know everything about the in-game lore of the Trilogy

[spark badger]

I have suspicions that he may not have even been a fully brainwashed monolithian, considering his origins.

[slender pawn]

i really enjoyed the game

[terse ravine]

what changes if you sneek out of orbital station instead of shooting your way out

[meager crag]

Well yeah, he was a human with Controller abilities, after all

[simple shard]

but nah i personally don't care much at all about the lore changes, and it's a fun game, interested to see where GSC goes with it but more particularly modders later on

[meager crag]

Unfortunately, I do care

[pure jasper]

Modders gonna make that game G.A.M.M.A 2.0

[chrome jetty]

I do care

[meager crag]

They truly meant it when they said HoC would be AAA quality

[slender pawn]

due to the lab experiments no?

[meager crag]

Like, it's not like they didn't have people on their team studying the Trilogy

[spark badger]

Can't believe they killed my boy Hermit

[meager crag]

Although, seeing the lore of HoC, one does have to consider the possibility of this not being the case

[chrome jetty]

S2 lore and writing is so bad that some STALKER mods would be canonically more fit as a sequel of the STALKER series. Thus being

RTTZ

Wind of Time

Spatial Anomaly

Valley of Whispers

[pure jasper]

Fr
I love surrendering all my pc's storage to a single game

[meager crag]

Yeah, hella sad

[meager crag]

Scary post fr

[simple shard]

I mean I guess one can pray that they "fix" it with one or both of the DLC, but I doubt that's gonna happen. If you're looking for more of the OG writing style, there's always the next Metro...

[meager crag]

Yeah

[spark badger]

I loved finding his little notes

[chrome jetty]

Do you agree with me though?

[meager crag]

No, because I only play Vanilla

[pure jasper]

Its eerie seeing Freedom owning Rostok, while leaving the army warehouses empty
Also, where tf is the radar
Did they tear ot down so the Brain Scorcher wouldnt be turned on again ?

[slender pawn]

me waiting for the roadmap at Jan 1st 12:00 am

[chrome jetty]

You can fix A-Life and the technical issues, but you cannot fix the lore and writing

[shrewd kindle]

Why have flashlights been terrible in so many games lately? Starfield, dying light 2, stalker 2 etc.

[meager crag]

I'm unfortunately not that well known with the map. Would answer if I could

But nothing makes sense anyways

[simple shard]

I sympathize with the people disappointed by the S2 narrative, although I'm personally not terribly wounded by it, I think it's a justified grievance

[meager crag]

Like, Swamps and Zaton at the South-East of the Zone? 💀

[slender pawn]

we also have two more DLC on the way so there can be fixing.

[chrome jetty]

It's so Vova Vist over

[pure jasper]

Like
They put the mapmarker saying the Brain Scorcher is a wholeass building.
When it was an underground X-lab in a monolith base.
It had bigass satelite dishes on top of it
Where tf did it all go

[chrome jetty]

Lore cannot be fixed

They already did the damage

[meager crag]

Uh, where actually is it on the map?

[chrome jetty]

They should've hired @meager crag as a narrative designer

[meager crag]

Ayo, the Mouth of Ky has entered the chat

[meager crag]

😳

[paper trail]

Can someone tell me what exactly is wrong with the writing ? As a non Expert in stalker lore I found the story to be good.

[slender pawn]

agreed imo

[pure jasper]

Top right of the map
Somehow, its above Malachite
Not sure it was supposed to be there
That part of the map made me very confused.

[meager crag]

Several retcons, basically. For someone new to the series, it wouldn't be that big of a problem

[sonic pivot]

What to fix?

[simple shard]

For me, the stalker narrative across the trilogy was always just kind of the window dressing that enabled the world to exist that I got to explore and screw around in, the story itself was more of a vehicle than anything. Even before the mods started to flourish I approached it very much as an atmosphere- and gameplay-first experience, the lore has never been so compelling to me as to live in my head outside of the game so to speak

[icy drum]

I have no idea how the old games ended, besides knowing clear sky was annihilated. And strelok took down the scientists. But other than that I find this story pretty good

[chrome jetty]

[slender pawn]

ive been playing for like 4 years but ig im still new (people saying it is ruined is way to far)

[paper trail]

What would be the worst in your opinion ?

[meager crag]

Such as the Monolith being real, Strider no longer remembering his past, Coupons instead of Rubles making no sense, Strelok's whole view on the Zone, Clear Sky's mission basically written like fanfic, etc.

[pure jasper]

Them removing my beloved Brain Scorcher and Radar area from the map 3:<

[meager crag]

I forgot some of it, I should probably write it down

[violet dune]

its just for die hard fans a problem. for others its not. map its different because GSC tried to make it more similar to IRL with positioning and swamps if you look at google maps would make sense to have on the right side because of the river and very watery land.

[chrome jetty]

They were not joking when they said there was no need to have played the trilogy in order to play S2

[slender pawn]

its on the map

[meager crag]

True

[pure jasper]

It is not
I went to where the Brain Scorcher lab should be
Not only they blocked it off
They just removed the damn satelite dishes :c

[tepid osprey]

Scar being an agent is a new thing right? I was like wharr

[meager crag]

Hmm, toughie. Either Clear Sky's mission and Scar being a Marked Agent before the events of CS or Sidorovich apparently being a Marked Agent, if the Ward ending is to be believed

[slender pawn]

eh not rly

[chrome jetty]

And Nimble is not who killed Fang either way

[chrome jetty]

It is lmfao

[spark badger]

Tbf, considerable years have passed since that satellite was standing. I wouldn't be surprised if stalkers destroyed it due to the damage it did before being shut off

[meager crag]

Like, I'm alright with him being a Marked Agent, it's just that he was one even before the events of CS which is odd

[simple shard]

Hand to God I beat SoC probably 3 times before I could actually tell you what the game was "about" more than the absolute unavoidable basics of the plot and main guys, narrative just wasn't what attracted me to it
granted i was still in my youth so there's a good chance i was playing it blasted out of my mind

[tepid osprey]

Yeah its all confusing. So who did kill fang then? It appears they never decided

[icy drum]

Or one of the other factions destroyed it

[meager crag]

Oh yeah, this was actual bull

[spark badger]

It's also not stated that nimble killed fang. It'd just a message telling him to look for them

[paper trail]

I see yeah sounds like a lot, @pure jasper maybe the cloudy areas are adding it back

[meager crag]

Nimble killing Fang? That's such bs

HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SCAR

[chrome jetty]

It surely wasn't Nimble

[violet dune]

thsi AI generated scar makes me MAD! 😡

[spark badger]

Yeah it doesn't say that he killed fang is what I'm saying. He was sent looking for them. There's no message saying he killed them.

[chrome jetty]

Drweski writing ahh level

[tepid osprey]

It was said that whoever killed Fang ‘looked like a loner’ and had a ‘huge scar on his face’. Probably not the exact quotes but yeah

[violet dune]

scar didnt had scar, it was a camo

[meager crag]

I already figured out it was actually Leshiy who killed him. At least, that's what I speculate. It makes sense. SoC tells us Fang was killed by two Bandits and a Merc dressed as a Stalker. Just after meeting Leshiy and going to Limansk, you actually meet two Bandits which you can spare. My theory is that those two Bandits got hired by Clear Sky along with Leshiy. The two Bandits get killed, Leshiy manages to kill Fang and joins Freedom. After all, you can even find a Vintar BC at the Army Warehouses, the weapon Fang was killed by

[pure jasper]

Perhaps
Could be what @spark badger said too
It would make sense that a faction went there to destroy it, since if it got re-enabled, it'd be bad news
Wonder where the hell the Barrier went tho
And the lovely skulls that decorated the area

Dont miss the Chimeras or Psi-Suckers tho

[simple shard]

I think after this playthrough I might give GAMMA another round

[spark badger]

The fang thing didn't even make sense back in CS. I feel like they originally planned for the player to have a quest to kill fang and that would explain the message about a guy with a scar on his face killing him.

[slender pawn]

i was thinking the same

[meager crag]

Except Lebedev tells you they will deal with Fang and Ghost while Scar has to focus on Strelok

[pure jasper]

Fr gamma is great
Its lack of a story like S2 breaks its legs tho.

[paper trail]

I wish you could become an Xbox-Controller to fight Faust. Would be at least an even fight.

[harsh jungle]

I encountered a Srgt Santa

[chrome jetty]

Leshiy can have a scar in his face but it is covered with some clothes

[meager crag]

And a gas mask in SoC

[chrome jetty]

Also, scar doesn't have hazel eyes

[meager crag]

Yeah, they're blue

[simple shard]

I don't mind the lack of narrative personally, I'm kind of interested to see how sandbox-y modders manage to make S2

[spark badger]

Yeah, I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying that it's most likely that originally it was supposed to be scar, hence the mention of the scar. I've seen anomalous' video about leshiy and I agree

[meager crag]

Wait... does he still have blue eyes in HoC?

[paper trail]

Btw does anyone else also think that Powerplug has a screw loose ?

[chrome jetty]

We are the ones who told about that theory to Anomalous

Especially Tejas

[meager crag]

Lmfao he doesn't

[spark badger]

Yeah I love his videos

[tepid osprey]

Wharr, I watched that vid actually. Does make sense

[plain fiber]

Ah shoot, that actually would have been relevant to the ongoing conversation.

Whoops!

[pure jasper]

Fr
Imagine the same weapon variety/complexity, functionality and health system, with the storytelling of S2

[meager crag]

Oh yeah, I told him about the whole event of Tejas' speculation and how I figured it out

Haven't seen the video in case he made one

[spark badger]

I never mentioned anything about a retcon

[tepid osprey]

I was reading that 😭

[meager crag]

Oh yeah, for those wondering why Coupons are actually a retcon, it's because Rubles are actually stored on your PDA in CS

[simple shard]

i have not listened to a single english voice line lol
second i heard they were all like brit VAs and stuff i knew i couldnt put up with it

[paper trail]

He sounds lets say interesting xD

[pure jasper]

I think i might have a second playthrough wirh the audio in ukrainian after I finish this one
English doesnt feel the same

[plain fiber]

Scar's English VO is better than his Ukrainian VO, I'm sorry.

The Ukrainian VO for Scar sounds too edgy, like I'm listening to someone try to do an impression of Shadow the Hedgehog after smoking an entire carton of cigarettes.

The English VO for Scar is straight-up masterful, and his physical acting was superb as well; the way he speaks sounds like an actual mentally unstable person where as the Ukrainian VO sounds like a caricature.

@tepid osprey Here it is again, sorry about that. Accidentally left this whole thing sitting in my message box but forgot to actually post it last night.

[icy drum]

So since noontide are ex monolithians. Did it just make them much easier to be turned back into the monolithians once again due to the brain washing still technically being there?

[chrome jetty]

We also see Leshiy..

[simple shard]

"The Ukrainian VO for Scar sounds too edgy, like I'm listening to someone try to do an impression of Shadow the Hedgehog after smoking an entire carton of cigarettes"
100% S2 lore accurate, that makes this the correct VA

[meager crag]

Also Wolfhound is still alive?

[icy drum]

Also no idea why that replied to a random comment but alright then

[civic swift]

Gamepad stalkers rise up

[paper trail]

Hippidy hoppidy that's now my property.

[tepid osprey]

His English voice actor does indeed do a great job. I wish all of the English voice acting was done by English speaking Ukrainians tbh

[pure jasper]

I'd suppose the lack of the Brain Scorcher satelitte array would make turning them back harder, no ?
Since theres no means for the scorching of brain to occur.
Wouldnt the Duga explosion also mess that up, since Scar basically exploded part of the Rainbow Emmitter ?

[spark badger]

It had a lot of charm in the older games

[meager crag]

Stop in the name of the Law, you thief

[plain fiber]

See I disagree, I find him very creepy in his English VO and mo-cap, because he convincingly comes across like a real mentally unstable person.

I even showed the scene at the Mill to my dad (he worked in psychiatric rehabilitation for years) and he agreed with me; it's a pretty damn accurate portrayal.

[icy drum]

It kind of confused me at how they suddenly turned back

[wide ferry]

ngl I really wish Gurza Dreaming was still playing at 100 Rads bar

[chrome jetty]

Deggy pulled out the stealth card

[tepid osprey]

I’d prefer them over American and English ones tbh. Just doesn’t feel right

[plain fiber]

I would have preferred it too tbh, especially when we have previously Ukrainian or Eastern European characters suddenly speaking in American or English accents.

[spark badger]

Duty took it away with them, same with the guy that says "Get out of here stalker"

[meager crag]

Tf you mean, Scar is more sane than anyone else I've ever met

[pure jasper]

Imo, SIRCAA must had a very powerful antenna array
Either that, or the failed experiment managed to re-activate the Wish Granter somehow

[sage dew]

Speaking of VA xD people are always like "BOOHOO the voice acting in S2 is terrible." What Language do you play ?" I ask them - them "English?" Me "-_- I'm leaving"

[paper trail]

Powerplug is the perfect technician for him.

[icy drum]

I could see why Strider turned with his direct exposure to the device but not the others as much.

[tepid osprey]

I think the English voice acting is great but the accents just don’t sit right for me

[paper sand]

i believe all of the psi emitters got reactivated, on my ward run just did this part and korshanov mentions that the antenna on the noontide base, and other antennas all got activated

[sage dew]

Yes very dumb american trope

[wide ferry]

Star in the Spark faction literally has a New York accent in ENG lmao , shit took me out the first time i heard him speak, mans should be in Brooklyn

[violet dune]

feels like UK gang chilling in the zone

[meager crag]

I do think their whole "I'm not saying goodbye." line could've been better if they added something like "Stalker" or "Friend" after it

[simple shard]

skeefa hurry, duty is having a birthday party at the cement factory, you have to steal the pinata and bring it back to me skeefa, a true klondike of candy awaits us skeefa

[meager crag]

As that would've brought their point across better, I think

[pure jasper]

Not only that, he completely ignores skif, which any respectable monolithian wouldnt, he'd have smoked everyone in that room like a blunt.
Also, the other monolithians got turned back really fast
Almost immediately.
What exactly was the SIRCAA staff doing in an experiment that required both the Alpha and the wish granter

[plain fiber]

This this this! In terms of actual quality the majority of the English VO is great, I just don't like the formerly Ukrainian or Eastern European accented characters now having American or British accents.

In general I don't mind there being a mixture of accents, the Zone is a place that attracts people from all over after all and is of international interest; it's the same reason I don't see the issue with there being black people in the Zone. I just don't like previously established characters being changed in such a way.

[sharp flame]

People complaining about hearing an american accent in the zone when we all know usa would be there cause oil

[paper trail]

Btw guys how did you follow the story at all while having everything in ukranian? I mean there are subtile situations in which I couldn't even follow what a character is saying. Only way for me was playing im english and kinda pretent its a Hollywood movie

[meager crag]

Clear Sky voice actors, my beloved

[tepid osprey]

Yeah lol. I’m English so its kinda funny but theres a certain Kingdom Come VA whos voice is too unique and I instantly recognised it from that game 😅

[violet dune]

also no anu cheeki breeki iv damke in EN

[pure jasper]

Cheeki breeki my beloved

[sage dew]

Didnt hear it in UA either ... no luck?

[spark badger]

Hearing Irish accents gave me whiplash

[violet dune]

it happend for me. very rare line

[sage dew]

Gotta edit my review! I said "=C no cheeki breeki!"

[meager crag]

Or Bri'ish

[sharp flame]

Devs should get an aussie or kiwi VA, for some random npc found living out in the middle of nowhere, just one lonely npc

[spark badger]

I heard Cheeki Breeki maybe 3 times total. It's definitely very rare.

[tepid osprey]

А ну чікі брікі і в дамке! american accent

[pure jasper]

I miss the anomaly weapon jamming curses ngl
Would be funny to hear skif complain when his gun doesnt gun

[violet dune]

And well, chiki briki and in a damke!

[spark badger]

This too, but hearing Irish accents in games are very rare. Making it over to the zone was very funny.

[meager crag]

Y gun no moar dakka?

[sage dew]

Theres a mod for this xD

[sharp flame]

Be funny if when gun does jam, skif starts cursing at it an randomly throws it on the ground in a fit of rage... Just to spice up our gameplay

[meager crag]

Aye, Scar got that fr

[pure jasper]

There is >_> ?

[icy drum]

Also the thing about bandits how are they as accurate as a Rifleman. You'd think that they one have pretty broken guns and two they are pretty much untrained. I see mercs or other factions having good aim. But not generic bandits and thieves.

[spark badger]

They're built different

[pure jasper]

Need
Gun not gun correctly ?
Throw gun at enemy !

[sage dew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/900

[tepid osprey]

They should’ve had a Scottish stalker in Rostok randomly shouting “Freedom!” Lol

[pure jasper]

I hate the fact that rostok is freedom now.
I loved mass murdering whenever i went through it

[violet dune]

mhm. puts headshots from 70m with shotguns without any bullet-drop and shoots 20 buckets, but always have 3-4 buckets if you kill it with broken weapon

[jagged roost]

As a Scot I’d have liked that 😂

[meager crag]

Freedom, my beloved

[paper trail]

The scottish guy with his goldfish artifact friend caught me off guard way more

[meager crag]

Although, yeah, I guess the places don't make that much sense

[tepid osprey]

[pure jasper]

I always play Weedom fr
They went from weed anarchists to hecking merchants

[marble onyx]

anyone encountered getting teleported like 2milion meters from objective in X5 lab ? 😄

[paper trail]

By the gravitational anomaly ?

[pure jasper]

Its eerie to see army warehouses abandoned
What if the monolith returned ????
Who would have defemded the Barrier ?!?

[meager crag]

Which is honestly sad. Their whole thing was understanding the Zone, letting people know what's happening in the Zone, free access to the Zone and coexistence with it. I feel like this change kinda goes away from that

[plain fiber]

Lol, no. I'm American and if I heard a Bandit that sounded like what's-his-name from Kingsman, I'd immediately think "Ah yes, an English hoodlum.".

[meager crag]

Well uh, the Barrier doesn't exist because of how the map works, so there's another retcon for ya

[marble onyx]

not even sure, doesnt seems its anomaly i cant go to main menu or even quick load .. but game isnt in "not responding" state 😄 im slowly dying from bleed

[tepid osprey]

“Transpose to me thy possessions stalker!”

[pure jasper]

[spark badger]

I think I might have missed him lmao. I switched to Ukrainian relatively quickly

[plain fiber]

The problem is with Makluha coming back, someone needs to shoot him and put Loki from CoP in charge.

[restive storm]

Guys, the door to the sultan`s base is closed and is not opening no matter what I do. I am not enemies with them either. What do I do?

[meager crag]

I haven't heard much about Mikluha yet tbh, so I don't know what he's like

[pure jasper]

I used to make my base near the Brain Scorcher.
Never knew the place was a X-Lab Maintenance tunnel

[plain fiber]

No no, not the guy played by Colin Farrel(?), Edgerton or whatever his name is; the main character.

[marble onyx]

sultansk ? thats strange they should auto open .. have you fast traveled there ?

[spark badger]

He just chills on the roof of Rostok and doesn't say much

[tepid osprey]

He sounds chill over the tannoy in Rostok but he sold out

[meager crag]

I wouldn't know kek, Trilogy and HoC are two different beasts altogether

[meager crag]

Missed potential fr... again

It's sad, but I'm not surprised

[restive storm]

I would but the closest base is rookie village which is 2.2 kms and I ain`t traveling that much tbh

[pure jasper]

I mean, makes sense
But
LET ME IN THE DAMN BRAIN SCORCHER REEEEEEEEEEEE
I need to visit that place at least once in HoC

[tepid osprey]

Oh I dunno, I was just pretending to be a posh English bandit lol

[spark badger]

I'd like to hear him tell the story about surviving for a month with his squad. I think both freedom and Duty had content cut from 2. Zulu is mentioned several times and even gives you a voice message, but he never appears

[plain fiber]

OG leader of Freedom, you can meet him in Clear Sky. If I remember correctly, he pissed off to the center of the Zone with a squad and was just...gone for a few years then came back, became Freedom's leader again, and invented the Coupon cryptocurrency.

It's under his returning leadership that Freedom has become the scuzzy shadow of it's former self it is now.

[meager crag]

Like, the actual Freedom wouldn't agree with being the Ward's lapdog. And even if they're forced into it, I don't think they'd be that alright with it

[meager crag]

Fake, we meet Chekhov in CS

We learn of Mikluha in SoC after the Brain Scorcher gets disabled

Him and his entire squad managed to survive the Brain Scorcher for an entire week. No one died

[pure jasper]

Which is odd, since roubles where already digital by then

[meager crag]

Also, Coupons are bs because Rubles were already on PDAs as we can see in CS

So another retcon

[icy drum]

So what was the brain scorcher?

[violet dune]

i dont get why they didnt went with hryvnia. the set is in 2021

[pure jasper]

A psi-installation that fried whoever got close to it
Of you got close enough, C-con would control you directly.
Also had a massive satelite array above it

[icy drum]

Ah so like what happened to the monolithians in a way

[meager crag]

A gigantic barrier that prevented Stalkers from going to the North and which could turn any dumb enough to try going North into a brainwashed Monolithian or zombified Stalker

Although I don't believe the whole Zombified Stalker thing was mentioned in the games

[tepid osprey]

It was an installation that blasted out deadly psi energy to anyone who got close and prevented stalkers from going North until Strelok deactivated it in SoC

[violet dune]

coupons existed IRL but for food only if im not wrong

[pure jasper]

Thats how the first monolith squad was created, afaik

[meager crag]

Yeah, it's basically this and they funnily enough created a retcon

[plain fiber]

@meager crag My response to the the changes surrounding the map: #s2-lore-discussions message

[sage mist]

Sigh I'm stuck waiting cuz stalker 2 shit itself on shader comp again 😭 I will legit cry now I even deleted my damn shader cache and it didn't work

[tepid osprey]

I mean, we all know why the Ruble retcon happened but what I don’t understand is why not use the Ukrainian currency at the time?

[restive storm]

Use shader skipping mod on nexusmods. Tbh, shader compiling doesn`t do shit for me

[violet dune]

but if outside of the zone is normal life why not just use current UA currency. the set is in 2021. this would make sense, because stalkers from outside come to the zone to make money

[meager crag]

If they're even planning on doing that anymore

[sage mist]

I already did that 😭 it didn't work fml and I don't wanna go through the hassle of modding

[plain fiber]

They've put out an actual fix for some Intel CPU-specific issues for CS and CoP, I can't imagine they wouldn't put some actual work into the OG trilogy on PC.

[meager crag]

Oh, I know. It's not a radius either.

Like, the Zone itself is a 60 KM radius, including the Belrusian side

But that's not the case here

[tepid osprey]

Ahh interesting insight

[violet dune]

tell this to USD

[pure jasper]

I like fhe fact i get to actually meet some of the people responsible for creating the zone
Really cool stuff uwu

[plain fiber]

Didn't they just say they would? With how much they've put out already, I just don't get the cynicism.

Plus apparently they have 400ish employees now, which means more teams to do different things.

[meager crag]

Shame that it's one of the ways Stalkers get their hands on weapons

[meager crag]

Not sure, I'm not that up to date with what went on here these last couple of days

[plain fiber]

Here, this was posted on the 20th: #📰┃announcement message

[meager crag]

Ah, neat

Here's hoping they actually fix it and don't make it more unstable

Thanks for the link

Like, Freedom are actually the journalists of the Zone, funnily enough

[plain fiber]

Oh, are they actually "beams" or "walls" then?

[tepid osprey]

Wharr I hope my irl Freedom patch will still have those

[meager crag]

If only they implemented my suggestion

Ah well

[meager crag]

It's a part of the Zone

Simple as

Would've been sweet to see what's to the North of the CNPP

[tepid osprey]

What did you suggest?

[meager crag]

The Belrusian side, y'know?

[plain fiber]

The Brain Scorcher? Yes I know it's part of the Zone, but the emitted psi-fields from each antennae only have a 1 km radius, so there were several that formed a "wall" of sorts through their connected fields.

We may be having a communication breakdown and if it's my fault I apologize.

[icy drum]

Wish you got to prypiat sooner. Seams like there's way more to the place than what i managed to explore my first play through

[meager crag]

Basically some sort of mention of how both Freedom and Duty recruits. We know that Freedom shares their secrets with the outside, so there must be some sort of website or something which could be a motivation for new Stalkers to join them. As for Duty, we actually know that they get reinforcements by chopper, which means they've likely got some base outside the Zone. Which means that they could actually be recruiting civilians. Would've been interesting to learn about, I think

[plain fiber]

Duty 100% has connections within the Ukrainian military, that's probably how they're able to get choppers.

[pure jasper]

Wasnt duty created by an ex military squad ?

[meager crag]

Uh, the Brain Scorcher would be to the South of the CNPP, no? I mean the Belrusian side of the Zone, like an actual 60 KM radius. We've basically just explored the Southern part of the Zone, but what about the rest? I'd love to see that

[tepid osprey]

Ahh I see! Would’ve been cool if they did that and mentioned ‘a gaming server’ as a nod to the discord lol

[meager crag]

Yes, Captain Tachenko actually sabotaged comms and left them there to die

[slender pawn]

i swear everytime i play i am always paranoid i never know who i would want to "side" with because all have weird morals

[meager crag]

Any and all survivors who did manage to group up joined Duty

[pure jasper]

Heckin dutiers

[meager crag]

Duty got founded in 2006 by the way, the year the Zone got created

[pure jasper]

They're glorified hunters now
Bunch of decadent milsim larpers with shotguns

[meager crag]

Operation Fairway is actually the failed mission Major Degtyarev is sent to investigate

[slender pawn]

like i find freedom and duty cool but saying that is like a crime due to both of thier morals

[spark badger]

Was operation fairway not the one after the brain scorcher went down?

[meager crag]

Captain Tachenko was a part of the First Army Raid of 2006

[meager crag]

Nope, that's Operation Monolith

[pure jasper]

I would have loved to see a chopper hit an airborne anomaly ngl

[meager crag]

They always have been, no matter which game

[pure jasper]

In HoC they're literally just that tho
Not even pretending to save the world from the zone
Just hunters killing livestock for money

[meager crag]

Speaking of Duty, I had another suggestion which would've been kinda interesting

And in a way, they did introduce it but not as much as I wanted

[meager crag]

Oh, that's kinda cringe then

Mfw all factions got worse in HoC

[spark badger]

I still find it funny playing COP and thinking to myself "surely this operation failed because the maps didn't account for emissions changing anomaly locations". And then thinking there must be more to the story only to find out the military just didn't know

[pure jasper]

Humanity decays fr

[tepid osprey]

I hate to say it but its true

[slender pawn]

i hope the DLC has a better reactions/plabality with factions

[plain fiber]

Yes.

@meager crag Yes it's south of the CNPP, but considering it's been confirmed there's a network of psi-antennas that the Scorcher connects to, it's likely that the Belarussian side was blocked off from the center of the Zone as well; there were probably additional antennas over there.

[meager crag]

Yeah, the Military is unfortunately not that accustomed with the Zone

[pure jasper]

Fr
It do be like that sometimes
Big oopsie means chopper go bye by

[sturdy verge]

for grays last hunt mission did anyone hear a car driving and crashing ? lol

[meager crag]

Indeed, a topic unfortunately not used by HoC. It would've been cool if they did something with the other antennas as well, ngl

[plain fiber]

charismatic type of histrionic
Yes! In some ways the English VO and mo-cap remind me of interviews with Charles Manson.

[tepid osprey]

Yeah that was weird. Reminded me of the Ghosts mission in Metro 2033

[spark badger]

Duty probably had cut content related to Zulu. He's mentioned several times and the duty guys in the game are fed up with Voronin, and think Zulu can take duty back in the right direction. He even has a voice actor despite not appearing physically

[pure jasper]

At least something good happened since CoP 🙏

[sturdy verge]

yeah that glass shattered made me think of stone cold steve austin intro LOL

[plain fiber]

Speaking of Freedom and Duty, why the hell is Duty selling NATO weapons? One of their "things" is that they exclusively use Warsaw Pact weapons. (Sidearms notwithstanding.)

(Haven't been to Rostok to check if Freedom's trader is doing the same thing; selling Warsaw Pact weapons despite exclusively using NATO weapons.)

[pure jasper]

Im gonna buy the full trilogy soon
Never had money for that before
I do now, so I can finally enjoy it instead of watching videos abt it

[spark badger]

Ragman in rostok sells Warsaw pact weapons, the other more official looking freedom trader doesn't

[meager crag]

Same goes with Freedom, unfortunately. GSC lied about the whole "placeholder" thing, I guess

[tepid osprey]

Anyone else notice the guy doing the Wilhelm Scream in the tornado

[plain fiber]

Yeah Ragman is an independent trader so I wasn't counting him.

@meager crag Iron Giant here says that the actual Freedom trader doesn't sell Warsaw Pact weapons, so this is just some weird thing with the Duty trader.

[meager crag]

I assume he means Birch? Birch just sells armor

[spark badger]

I don't recall Eugene selling Warsaw Pact, but then again the store refreshes all the time so I may have missed it if he does.

[pure jasper]

Its a damn shame we cant yeet grenades at sidorovich
Fallout 4 ahh invincibility

[meager crag]

CoP Freedomers use the AKM-74/2 as well

[pure jasper]

Me when they AK-74 my AKM

[meager crag]

Well, CS does have the AKM-47/2, so if you like 7.62

[plain fiber]

I don't count Ragman since he's an independent trader. The A-Life Freedom squads in CS may have been an oversight, especially since the SA80 L85 serves as the NATO equivalent of the "starter" assault rifle.

[pure jasper]

Shoudlnt it be AK-74U
And AK-74M ?

[meager crag]

The IL 86 is giga Chad, trust me bro

[meager crag]

AKM-74/2U and AKM-74/2 when it comes to CoP

[spark badger]

The stall in the rostok trader room with mutant parts but nobody sitting there makes me feel we were supposed to be able to sell mutant parts again in this one

[meager crag]

AKS for HoC

So AKS-74U and AKS-74S

[pure jasper]

Anynone else feels a distinct lack of Papasha in S2 ?

[sage mist]

guys any idea when a patch might be released for the shade comp issue?

[meager crag]

Probably cut to meet the new release date

[slender pawn]

DLC

[meager crag]

Yeah but for both Duty and Freedom

[plain fiber]

That's what I'm saying though, I don't think Ragman is actually a part of Freedom, he just trades within Rostok.

[spark badger]

Probably early January. Right now if my game freezes during shader compiling though, it just skips them next time I boot up and it works fine

[slender pawn]

the other traders dislike him aswell so i would agree

[spark badger]

Eugene absolutely hates him lmao

[slender pawn]

thats what i was tryna say

[pure jasper]

Ofc, his wares are shit

[meager crag]

You know, it's ironic

[icy drum]

They both say don't go to the other one so

[meager crag]

Now that the Arena is Freedom territory, it's now Freedom who allows them to feed the dead contestants to the mutants

Ironic

[spark badger]

Yeah he buys red quality weapons so he can sell shit wares. He also gets the weapons from the dead stalkers in the poppy field

[icy drum]

Wait ragman buys red weapons?

[meager crag]

Freedom having Rostok is meh tbh

[tepid osprey]

Ragmans name is interesting. We used to have ‘Rag n bone’ men in the UK who would wander around gathering the things people didn’t want anymore. I wonder if the devs knew about this and made him the Ragman. He does buy anything and red condition guns we don’t want anymore lol

[spark badger]

As long as they're not 0% durability he will

[plain fiber]

Also the music artist Rag n' Bone Man.

[meager crag]

Anyways, I'mma play a bit of Vermintide II, ping me if you have any questions and I'll see if I can answer them later

[plain fiber]

Not anymore, I shot what's-his-name in the head after he gave me the unique rifle and then took the icon back and delivered it to its' rightful owner.

[pure jasper]

I want the entire Stalker lore

[plain fiber]

I'm pretty sure that's what his PDA says yeah.

[tepid osprey]

Perhaps Pomor is a Rag n bone man 🤔

[small plover]

where can i put a small advice for the beloved studio of GSC of please support the game with dx11 or a unreal engine 4 release, becuase seriously the game is high demanding even more than call of duty or red dead

[plain fiber]

Also let's be honest; while letting Swedish live is the more morally correct choice, killing him and getting on Sidorovich's good side is the far more pragmatic and beneficial option.

Sid may be a bastard, but he's been in the Zone for decades and is extremely well connected; you want to be on the good side of someone like that.

[pure jasper]

Or you can shoot him in the head

[meager crag]

Nevermind, game crashed

[meager crag]

Okay, which one, Trilogy or HoC?

[slender pawn]

i am replying gamma right now what faction should i start with...

[tepid osprey]

Looks like you got Vermintided

[meager crag]

https://tenor.com/view/victor-saltzpyre-gif-22117141

[pure jasper]

Both

[plain fiber]

Well unfortunately you can't actually do that in the game; Sid is invincible and always has been.

[small plover]

no that would be unfair, but like a community pack for people struggling to run it, i'm very pleased with the game, even though i play it all on low, and with a lot of changes to the engine.ini file, my rig isn't powerful but the gpu is 1650 super, so i'm not complaining, just can they support potato pcs like me till we get new ones xD

[marble onyx]

any way to go around the x5 lab anomaly bug ? it teleports you under the map

[meager crag]

Okay, so basically...

||Play the Trilogy and HoC ||

[spark badger]

Same lmao

And yeah there's a PDA convo between ragman and pomor

[pure jasper]

Nah, a heart attack'll get that fatass eventually

[pure jasper]

But
But my wallet

[slender pawn]

there on sale bro

[icy drum]

Also isn't unreal probably one of the easiest engines to build off of? Just what i heard

[meager crag]

The answer to your wallet is YES

[small plover]

yeah i get it,, just an old stalker who couldn't save enough coupons for 4070

[meager crag]

The Trilogy is zased as fvck and worth it

Oh, and I guess HoC exists in case you want that

[pure jasper]

I DONT HAVE MONEY TWT
I spended it all on furry art

[plain fiber]

That is...wildly impractical to request.

Upgrading to a better optimized/more stable version of UE5 would likely be doable, (it would take a while though) but you are literally asking them to make a new game from scratch.

(I know I'm repeating what's already been said but I wanted to respond.)

[meager crag]

And there's your problem

[icy drum]

I meant to build from in general, I know back porting is not easy

[slender pawn]

guys what faction should i start on in anomaly

[meager crag]

Renegades

(They're in Anomaly, right? I don't play mods so I don't know)

[pure jasper]

Maybe next time i get paid
Do gotta enjoy HoC first tho
I spent my entire paycheck on it, after all

[tepid osprey]

When can I play S2 on my GameCube?

[meager crag]

Also "spended"

https://tenor.com/view/go-shower-shower-go-cat-drick-gif-7359584500487161762

[oak pecan]

Yay im in the discord.

[pure jasper]

In my defense
Its good art

[meager crag]

Hello in the discord, welcome to STOC

[meager crag]

Show

[pure jasper]

I cant
Not done yet
I only got 2 out of 7 arts
One of which is my pfp
My artist refused to draw me in a Corundum

[pure jasper]

I dont even got image perms TwT

[meager crag]

True

Only jannies and content lads

[slender pawn]

chati joined duty forgive me

[pure jasper]

Perish to a dog at Rostok

[tepid osprey]

Welcome in Stalker 🙂

[slender pawn]

this slow mode is making me mad... otherwise uhh i need to see the otherside of what freedom faces

[meager crag]

I guess it can be decreased, seen how things are going slower as of late

[pure jasper]

Still, good hecking art tho

[meager crag]

Although it do B vacation, so it's kinda understandable

[oak pecan]

Thanks

[tepid osprey]

[meager crag]

7 commissions for how much?

[pure jasper]

165 total
Also getting myself a vrc avatar :3

[meager crag]

Bro, you know how much Warhammer you could've bought with that instead?

Or better yet, how many copies of the entire Trilogy so you could gift it to everyone?

Ah well, as long as it's worth it to you

[pure jasper]

No cuz warhammer is over 390

[icy drum]

I actually have the original trilogy on my ps5 I just haven't played them

[meager crag]

Depends on model. A Titan though? Absolutely

[pure jasper]

Shit's expensive here ok
Old CoD games are still over 200 on steam

[meager crag]

Although I always buy them for cheaper at my local store

[icy drum]

Battlefield 4

[pure jasper]

TwT
Last time i checked, the OG trilogy wwas abt 40 each game
I dont have that money anymore
I do get paid right on my birthday in a few weeks tho >_>

[meager crag]

Bro what

Where do you live

Venezuela?

[icy drum]

I bought it on ps5 all 3 for like $20

[meager crag]

Wow

[pure jasper]

Close
Brazil
Im a 🇧🇷🐱

[meager crag]

Ah, so yeah, that does make sense

Have you checked Steam rn? Everything's on discount

[icy drum]

That checks out

[pure jasper]

A dollar is 6 bucks here nowadays

[meager crag]

What's the price if you look at this page?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4500/STALKER_Shadow_of_Chernobyl/?curator_clanid=6313

Steam

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl

The Zone, a place full of unfathomable wonders and sinister threats – former exclusion territory near the Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant. This most dangerous place on Earth became even more mysterious after an obscure accident in 2006. Anomalies with precious artifacts, starving mutants and greedy thugs have flooded these lands along with stalker...

Price

$4.99

Recommendations

35894

Metacritic

82

[pure jasper]

Im
Broke
Gotta pay for my gayass vrc avatar

[pure jasper]

34,99
HOLUP, ITS ON 75% OFF I CAN AFFORD THIS SHIT

[meager crag]

Yeah, one sec

You can get the whole Trilogy for even cheaper than the individual prices

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/35983/

[pure jasper]

:3
I can afford it

Might even gift it to someone
I dont know anyone interested in it tho

[pure jasper]

Shit 18 bucks for 3 games is really good

[meager crag]

PEAK games too

[marble onyx]

guys, is there any attachment or something i could miss outside the named AK in X5 lab ?

[pure jasper]

Wait
AK in x-5 lab

[marble onyx]

yes, as you leaving theres a small compartment you can go and theres a AK named Spitfire

[pure jasper]

Isnt that the one under Malachite ?

[pure jasper]

Ohhh that one
Yeah I sold it off

[ancient frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6KBwBMG1ac S.T.A.L.K.E.R - 1980's Live-Action Movie

well im never sleeping again lol

[pearl sable]

The loner guy that wanted to sit with the other guys at fire but was bad at telling jokes,was a good side mission,he asks you to hide on roof and radio him what to say, lol

[meager crag]

If only there was an option to keep silent and make him have to come up with a joke of his own on the spot

[pearl sable]

What happens if you dont reach time limit to pick an answer or pick wrong one? I managed to pick right stuff to make a funny joke lol?

[pure jasper]

i remembered i have nitro
time to change my server pfp

[meager crag]

Oh, I didn't know there was a limit

Kek

[pure jasper]

much better uwu

[dense quartz]

Soc and cop yes but clear sky ?!?!

[simple shard]

some people loved the faction war mechanics

[marble onyx]

here we go again 😄 after few hours of fun 😄 again the crashes at stash .,..

[pure jasper]

@meager crag THE TRILOGY HAS BEEN ACQUIRED

which stalker game is the first ?

[pearl sable]

Either did I till I was reading all the joke lines carefully and saw the time bar depleting, in split last minute second I chose my answer

[pure jasper]

oh boy
Its OG time

I'm already

[tepid osprey]

Now time to join Freedom. свобода!

[pure jasper]

Always a freedomer

[ancient frost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3agGJ84NQM S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Live-Action Movie (2025) - First Trailer | Tom Hardy no way is this really gonna hapen >?

nm fake

[somber gazelle]

random question is there any reason to give mercs medkits?

[pure jasper]

is there a way to enable subtitles in SoC ?

[somber gazelle]

is it for the story or rep?

[hidden yoke]

anyone know what faction is this???
#📸┃screenshots_and_videos message

[royal garden]

Why can’t we cross small lakes lol?

[hidden yoke]

i wasn't even there yet tho...

[harsh jungle]

my b ill get him to go back to the station

[hidden yoke]

welp

[harsh jungle]

im tempted to restart my playthru lol

[sharp flame]

iv been hunting liquid rock for hours, how damn rare is it 😦

[quick kernel]

How far along are you? I did that for mine and while it was nice to know what I was doing I recognized a lot of places I've already seen before several times. Just to advise you

[harsh jungle]

I was at the part where I was gonna meet scar

[quick kernel]

Oh yeah you've got plenty more to go if it's the first time you're meeting scar.

[harsh jungle]

I’ve gotten as far as the point of no return but I never feel like beating the game lol

[brazen ice]

after 77 hours i ended up having to start a new game.. i don't wanna talk about it, BUT

I found a fire pit with like 7 dudes around it and they all attacked me like super quick. JUST STARTED A NEW GAME... in all my 77 previous hours never had a group that large just chillin turn around and try and kill me

[quick kernel]

Hopefully this game gets an NG+ at some point

[harsh jungle]

or the ability to play past the credits fr

[dense quartz]

Only with a mod, natural it wont happen 100%

[quick kernel]

You don't think so? Why?

[spark badger]

The endings have too significant an effect on how the zone functions

[dense quartz]

I not only think, i know it. It has been already stated officially. Stalker never had an NG+ and this is because its a story driven game that isnt designed to continue playing after the end. You need to reload a save from before.

[quick kernel]

Yeah but that's not what new game plus is... So that's just dumb asf.

[meager crag]

PEAK Sky

It's my favorite

[dense quartz]

There are million single player story games that dont have a NG+.
I dont think its dumb if it doesnt fit the design.

[meager crag]

Hella based, SoC first

[spark badger]

I forgot to respond to that earlier myself. I think clear sky is underrated

[meager crag]

Ah kek, yeah, I'd love to see what happens when you leave him hanging

[pure jasper]

already on it

[quick kernel]

Let's see, Ghost Of Tsushima has NG+, Alan Wake 2 a game in which the story is the backbone has new game plus. The Witcher 3 has new game plus, I could go on. Stalker fans love to hate things that are optional for them to use, y'all are still living in 2010

[ornate sable]

SoC didn't have it either, unless modded in. Which I'm sure some people will do with S2 in due time (if not already?).

[dense quartz]

I think you are missing my point.

[quick kernel]

Yeahhh thinking about it now I suppose Stalker wouldn't make sense for an ng+ since part of the journey is the upgraded loot you get and if ng+ carries over your loot what's the point of exploring again

[meager crag]

Also, you commissioned an avatar and you switched it already?

[dense quartz]

Its more because the endings storywise dont allow a NG+

Im positive tho that a mod like Anomaly/Gamma will emerge later one in a couple years and this will be a continous playstyle

[meager crag]

Yeah, it's basically like Fallout 3 and NV's endings

It do B wat it B

[quick kernel]

But ng+ is a new game entirely, it's not a continuation of the game its a reset. I'm so confused on what you mean.

[spark badger]

I do think it'd be funny to hear Hermann talking to skif at the start of the game, telling him how artifacts work and he's got like 2 thunderberrys and a compass already.

Yeah there's some misunderstanding here about NG+. It's not continuing after the ending. It's starting a new game with your accumulated equipment and upgrades

[dense quartz]

Ah seem like we misunderstand each other. You want to restart the story but keep your loot ?
I was talking about continuing to roam the zone after the end. Sorry.

[pure jasper]

oh no
Thats just a funny pfp for this server
My art isnt done yet

[meager crag]

Ah

[quick kernel]

Oh yeah no New Game + is just a new game, from the beginning with all of your loot basically. But yeah misunderstanding for sure

[meager crag]

Kek

[spark badger]

One person up above did mention playing on after the ending, so I can see where the confusion came from

[pure jasper]

I'll show when its done

[quick kernel]

Although I heard the drum mag for the saiga is only obtainable at the ending and you can't get it any other way so that's a shame

[dense quartz]

Yeah then maybe your theory is right. I know there is a mod that starts a new game with all loot available from the start if that one interests you

[spark badger]

Yeah that's pretty unfortunate. You can only get extended mag before endgame, and even then the drum mag only appears when there's like, 2 more rooms to clear

There's some odd things with weapon attachments. The SVU silencer is in the files and can be spawned through a console command, but it can't be found or bought from traders

[glossy furnace]

hey guys does anybody know how to open up the stash near the medic on the Icarus?

[marble onyx]

i seen a save file on nexus that you can replace your files with, it puts you at Zalysia with 100k creds and all weapons, armors, BPs and attachments in stash, so its kind of simulating NG+ playthru

[dense quartz]

||how deep into the story am i % wise when i meet faust and he pushes the scanner on the ground to escape ?||

[spark badger]

25-30%, maybe a bit more. I'd consider your next mission to be around the 40% mark, it's a long one

[pure jasper]

been on SoC for 20 minutes and I already softlocked myself

[pearl sable]

If they havnt fixed it too u might need to drop your graphics down whilist fighting him, everytime I aimed at him, I'd get major frame drops, was only part It happened

[spark badger]

What'd you do?

[dense quartz]

Nono he escaped no fight yet

[pure jasper]

Nimble's stash with an artifact
i jumped into the little hole where the artifact is and I cant get out

[spark badger]

Rule 1 of stalker, make as many saves as possible and don't overwrite them

[pure jasper]

yep
I forget abt that

[pearl sable]

Pretty much

[sinful silo]

i have popped in to gloat that i have 100%ed the game. thank you for viewing my gloating.

[neon folio]

Do all the artifacts radiate you? Is there a way to negate the radiation of the artifacts?

[pearl sable]

Nice I feel I must be atleast 98% of the way there, ||as I'm going after the main protagonist now, dunno to side with or kill yet||

||every ending I feel is a sad and bad ending lol||

[spark badger]

There's anti radiation artifacts that balance out the radiation the others give you

[pure jasper]

mm
SoC is a banger

I broke a random box and got an artefact
This is peak game fr

[pearl sable]

There's alot hidden stuff in the game that's forsure, it's good to take your time and explore that's forsure

[marble onyx]

fr this game is so unfinished ... it should be marketed as early acess the amount of gamebreaking stuff is ridiculous at this point .. wasted 140 and cant even finish the main story bcs i had to load previous saves which made me loose like 30 hours out of 130 at least

[pure jasper]

[pearl sable]

Autosave regularly on stalker series, even just on main story quest, I had 2 soft lock I managed to get around, but apart from that it's beautiful

[pure jasper]

I'm gonna start savescumming like a maniac

[marble onyx]

i do quicksave regulary, but that does not help at all avoid this stuff, game crashing again when opening stash after 3 days of backuping and trying to find a save that does not doin it .. just to start doing it again after another main story mission
i dont expect from a 110€ game to be troubleshooter simulator instead of a game

[pearl sable]

They'll iron it out, they been pretty solid on patches

[marble onyx]

thats no excuse for releasing the game in this state, they should do it before release or market it as early access 😄

at this point ppl paying to be testers 😄

[pearl sable]

Stop buying games on release bud and wait for reviews, or put it down and play something else for abit, you complaining in discord instead of writing a ticket and telling the devs not gonna get anything done faster

[weary hedge]

Imma keep it a buck with u bro that’s on u for paying 140 for a game but jokes aside try to verify the integrity of the game files

[marble onyx]

i havent bought it on release, i got the game over a week ago, after mostly positive reviews no matter where you looked at

[weary hedge]

The games been working fine for almost everyone for almost a month now that’s y I said verify ur files cause it’s in a completely functional state for like 98% of ppl atp

[pearl sable]

Not everyone's gotten the same bugs but too so hard for them to fix everything at once, they're getting there

[pure jasper]

SoC goated
I eep now tho

[pearl sable]

I only ran into one soft lock but was kind of my fault but too lol after fighting ||fauus|| I went down the stairs and out of the building , then read I was suppose to loot his body so I tried going back up there and the door was locked haha

[pure jasper]

the game was fine for me until now
I feel like you're the problem there, not the game

[fallen lion]

No, this game is riddled with bugs and issues. Not you having the issues doesn't suggest it doesn't exist. Like, I got the ads lag glitch really early, before I could find any reports around. Now there's a few here and there, does that imply I didn't have the issue in the first place?

[pure jasper]

Saying the game is outright unplayable is a lie tho
HoC came out better than several AAA games lately

[fallen lion]

It's not. I had some bugs that forced me to use console to continue. That's a unplayable state. Just look at all the salizzya issues (or whatever it's called), a significant amount of people had it. Or the less common, but still huge enough, where you are locked inside SIRCAA. I love the game, it's really damn good, but it doesn't change the reality of it's state.

[pearl sable]

Only small issue I has was frame droppage whilist fighting fauss, don't I have no idea how some people are having these issues, I'm only running a 3060ti and a ryzen 5 3600x

[neat niche]

hey guys, i have the normal edition on steam, how can i upgrade to ultimate edition?

[fallen lion]

It should be a option on the page in steam?

[pure jasper]

Same
I actually got like
3 fps on faust, so I basically speedran that mf.

[slim sand]

any idea where i can find this tan version of the stalker set? aw cant send images :(

[pearl sable]

I'd frame drop then he'd do that hand thing on me, rinse and repeat, so took me forever to beat him haha

[neat niche]

im confused, can you show me with pic?

[marble onyx]

State is just rly unacceptable for the price tag, i got the idea why you might defend it and i enjoyed huge part of the game i managed to get into but if you say game is worth what they asking for it, you probably dont like your money enough 😄 and making excuses for releases like this its why devs keep releasing unfinished stuff, but yes, iam the problem for sure

[pure jasper]

<.<
Imma do that fr

[marble onyx]

upgrade is not an option currently

[fallen lion]

Oh damn, wtf why?

[neat niche]

dawg what 😔

[pure jasper]

Took me a while to realise o could shoot the emmiter

[pearl sable]

Poor guys probably had a harsh deadline they've would of had to of met, they're onto it with the fixes and will fix the issues you're experiencing

[marble onyx]

yep, you can only buy different version but no way to get upgrade currently, soemone asked about it here on DC and devs answered that it will be probably option in future, currently not tho

[pearl sable]

Me too ngl lol

[fallen lion]

I agree on this, however I get unicorns frustration, and its 100% but the game will get fixed and a lot is already. But i stand by the opinion of this should have been early access.

[neat niche]

man i really need those weapons, thx for the info

[marble onyx]

well, your only option is currently wait if you already after point of refund and buying higher version

[neat niche]

yeah 47h in already 😔

[hidden yoke]

question for main quest. In 1 of the main quest where you'll go and get the Emitter for Scar, there's an Optional main quest where you go to Sphere(?) to get ANOTHER Emitter.

What was the point of that optional mission if you just smash it when you see Scar?

[pearl sable]

#❔┃main-quest

[stray cove]

Any idea where strelok’s hideout is in agropom? Just did the whole underground but didn’t come across anything.

[stark fossil]

It’s a main mission thing you can’t go in before that

Or if you’re already at that stage and you’re in, the hideout is up the ladder in one of the open ventilation shafts - big round cutouts in the wall in a semicircular corridor with a few toxic pools

[ripe anvil]

when your game is soft locked by a bug

@pearl sable Wishful Thinking, right after the Dr Dalin/Colonel Korshunov cutscene where you || momentarily choke out dr. dalin in a rage ||

[pearl sable]

What's part?

[stark fossil]

@stray cove if you played older Stalker games the hideout is in the same spot

[fast bramble]

Hi, can i join to a faction in stalker COP with SGM 2.1 mod?

[pearl sable]

Have u got a close autosave to reload see if it's same, sometimes can be a small bug fixed by reload

[ripe anvil]

ive reloaded a few times and also gone back furhter saves, still whart happens is that right after the cutscene where you || choke out dr. dalin for a moment || and at the end of the cutscene, dr. dalin walks out of frame and then seemingly despawns and is nowhere to be found. when i go to talk to korshunov to follow up the questline, dr. dalins dialogue will attempt to start but because dalin is not anywhere in the room or seemingly anywhere in the entire complex the dialogue never starts, the dialogue is unskippable, and i cannot pause to reload, im just just stuck staring at korshunovs blank face forcing me to alt f4. ive restarted the game a few times, tried loading from a few different saves, but dalin still doesnt spawn in so the dialogue with korshunov breaks

[fallen lion]

I had the same issues, and had to resort to console commands to fix it.

[ripe anvil]

how ? i have the console command mod already for my flashlight mod

[fallen lion]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1hikb15/game_breaking_bug_wishful_thinkingsircaa_quest/ here is the thread that helped me, there a youtube video linked somewhere that got me on the right path

[dense sandal]

What faction is slag heap and Rostock?

[ripe anvil]

thanks im gonna try this out

[pearl sable]

After I finish the game I might explore the console commands stuff, can u spawn stuff In Like npcs in like fallout 4 ans skyrim?

[quick kernel]

Rostock is freedom and I think Slag Heap is just loners?

[fallen lion]

It took some faffing back and forth with commands, so be patient.

[sturdy verge]

wonder if there will be psi storms later on 😄 seen someone ask that question prior to release and the answer was NDA lol

[ripe anvil]

this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo4ohYOnH-s

[fallen lion]

I'll be honest, no that's not the video but it's basically the same. I probably mixed up something in my endless sea of tabs troubleshooting this.

[ripe anvil]

the dalin bug im having is actually earlier than that spot in the video

[fallen lion]

Well, if anything it should point you in the right direction, you just need to dig and find the correct quest line commands to punch into the console. But my bad, I have mixed up something here.

[frigid hill]

randomguy22 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[twin solar]

Ok, time to rewrite without any bad words?? Idk what I wrote that set off the censor, but I digress...

So one issue I had with not just Stalker 2, but with the rest of the games, was that very few people seemed to use a technician or attachments aside from you and a few select NPCs. Now that mods like Itemization, Mutant Loot and Repair Kits are starting to pop up on the Nexus, I'm wondering if it may be possible to address this in Stalker 2.

For instance, random Stashes might have a 5-10% chance of containing some Stalker's kitted out weapon or armor item, with random attachments and/or upgrades applied. Perhaps enemies and allies, depending on rank, might be more or less likely to carry similar randomly kitted out items? A low ranking bandit in the Lesser Zone might not have much more than a bog standard Boomstick, but those elite Mercenaries that kept hunting me in the late game would probably carry some personalized gear. Perhaps all this might be balanced with an increase in the base cost of weapon upgrades.

This might be something I would try myself were it not for me lacking much knowledge of modding outside of basic config file editing, though if there are any resources available for learning this kind of stuff I'd honestly be interested in trying my hand at it.

[fallen lion]

I think I saw a mod like that yesterday, but I agree, it's strange that nobody uses technicians, and/or have attachments on weapons.

[clever fiber]

So I'm looking through the achievements there are ones for artifacts and arch artifacts. What are arch artifacts ?

[cosmic elbow]

did they buff vs vintar/lavina or it still sucks for endgame?

[twin solar]

I see, would you happen to remember its name?

[fallen lion]

No, I was just scrolling trough nexus.

[twin solar]

Aaaaah

[royal garden]

Does anyone know if pda leaderboards are coming back? Be nice if it did

[marble onyx]

and another bug 😄 you know the animation in X5 bunker when u jump down to psi dog ? the closing eyes one ...
now my game it started doing on every single save in the slot, so i guess its same as ppl had issue with constant psi damage after duga, effect from another main mission carry over to all saves

[jagged zinc]

You could report the bug…

[marble onyx]

skif closing eyes every 10-15 seconds and screen it totaly dark for like 3 seconds, then nothing and again blink .. and dark screen 😄

[clever fiber]

I really hope this game doesent turn into a case of hey we fixed this but broke 10 other things caus so far this patch made the game buggier then it was

[glass compass]

They aren't bugs. They are anomalies.

[marble onyx]

i mean, for me at least its getting worse and worse with every patch they release, i had no issues when i got the game for first 3 days, then big patch was released and issues started that i wasnt able to get thru shaders for 10 hours no matter what, next day, smaller one was released, and the UE crashes started going rampage that i had to constantly load older saves to be able to play, to the point i actually got back in story more than i progressed 😄
i like the gameplay and trying to play it somehow, but no matter how many chances i give it and try to find a solution, game throw another gamebreaking stuff at me

[somber gazelle]

honestly thought it was a neat bug and for a little bit thought it was a feature too. Every time ya loaded into the game your characters eyes would open should become a mod maybe.

[clever fiber]

I would usually say the same but it's kinda getting annoying running through Iraq with bugs

[clever fiber]

With me nothing game breaking but it's every patch brought more bugs then it fixed. And a life is more active then 2009 fallujah in iraq

[marble onyx]

it would be okay if it was only when loading, like skiff woke up instead of constant blinking and getting pitch black screen 😄

[somber gazelle]

now yea thats annoying

[lone sigil]

I just realised skif isn't even a stalker. He's just some dude who lost his house and you could literally just screw over everyone in the zone

[twin solar]

I honestly don't know if I'm just lucky or if I have some magical hardware combination that the game likes, but my first playthrough was mostly bug-free. There were a few serious ones that I think everyone experienced, like the Door of Death in Zalissye (Which incidentally was fixed immediately after I finished the mission, I replayed and didn't have it), or Strelok disappearing in his boss fight (Didn't happen again after I reloaded), but most of the time there was either slavjank (People levitating over beds) or bug-free.

[marble onyx]

oh yes 😄 a-life changes is ... i mean world is not that empty but going from rostok to chemical factory 😄 and encounter 3 groups of bandits, just to get attacked by stalkers cos you killed one by mistake, beacuse all of them are look almost same, and when you get to looting finnaly those bodies 2 bloodsuckers alrdy running around you 😄

[marble onyx]

lot of bugs seems very random, not related to anything, guess you are lucky 😄 i managed to get all the way to sirca without bugs both my playthru attempts , and after that the bugs started spiraling and i just go stucked for 4 days

[ripe anvil]

i just gave up on the main questline and reloaded to a save i had that was before entering sircaa

[clever fiber]

#📸┃screens_and_videos i got a meme for ya

[marble onyx]

im not sure if that broke my game, but i explored whole map almost after getting out of lesser zone and seems i somehow killed some quest related npcs also, but if thats the case it breaks the whole point of open world 😄

[marble onyx]

thats .. too accurate 😄

[clever fiber]

For real lmao

[twin solar]

I see. Interesting. Out of curiosity, do you use an Intel processor or an AMD? I've heard that there are some issues unique to Intel processors, though not sure how big the issue is.

[marble onyx]

R7 7700x

[twin solar]

I see

[ripe anvil]

i got an R9 5900x and same problems

[twin solar]

I'd have to check on my own PC specs once I get home, but yeah, I guess the correlation isn't as strong as I thought. Maybe the bugs are just random, and the Zone favored me

[ripe anvil]

random areas of the game are just an extinction level event for framerate

[marble onyx]

bugs relation to hardware seems minimal, from what ive seen threads ppl having same issues on all kind of rigs...
not sure if its somehow related to amd but i even got some driver crashes, or full memory crash when playing stalker, which never happend at any point while playing any game before

[pearl sable]

Took me ages to realise that part I kept getting sniped and dying at is a scripted part to stop you progressing to a certain part of the story haha

Was so dedicated to trying to find him

[marble onyx]

invisible walls 😄

[ripe anvil]

this game will rezone your CPU for strip mining

[pearl sable]

https://tenor.com/view/striping-strip-strip-off-strip-dancing-fitness-dance-gif-13303887

Strip mining

[round light]

I've never played a stalker game before, and struggled at first. But gettig the hang of it now, what a fun game.

[hidden yoke]

game fun, just need more optimization (still think ue4 is enough instead of ue5)

[round light]

more ammo less dogs

[hidden yoke]

if i have more frame, the dogs won't be an issue

[livid coral]

Play stalker gamma it's quite relaxing, easy and enjoyable

[pearl sable]

I might when I finish 2, I need something until kindom come deliverance 2 comes out

Is gamma the best one play next out of all of the other ones?

[marble onyx]

since im waiting for fixes 😄 i got dying light 2 for meanwhile, but that idea with gamma isnt bad, might give it a go .. how is it compared to cop ?

[spark badger]

Gamma is an open ended hardcore survival sandbox game that has a different gameplay loop and has a lot of big changes to how the game is played. It's a big departure from the main games

[spark badger]

Gamma is great, but I'd recommend jumping into the OGs first personally, but it depends on what you're looking for

[marble onyx]

i dont see gamma on steam, only trilogy ..

[spark badger]

Gamma is a mod, it's not a main game

[marble onyx]

ah .. trilogy is 8€ for all 3 games currently .

[pearl sable]

Ah true, might just do that lol

[pearl sable]

Oh ok cheers for that 👍🏿

[marble onyx]

i mean 75% off, so its worth till game will be in better state 😄 i will have something to play cos after getting hyped for hoc, theres no game that i want to play that keep me entertained 😄

[pearl sable]

75% is abit harsh, then their just throwing money away and can't save on resources spendings and future projects lol