tech-deals-discussion

[tropic agate]

oh yeah

crap

[nimble charm]

cant i send links?

[tropic agate]

yeah

[stoic crest]

well, not enough levels

[tropic agate]

I just did

oh yeah

[stoic crest]

gotta dm someone and get em to repost

[nimble charm]

https:// www.amazon.in/Acer-AN515-45-GeForce-Graphics-Keyboard/dp/B09M3K2NGV/ref=sr_1_5?crid=34BURW62JUFW7&keywords=ryzen+7+rtx+3060+laptop&qid=1642175290&sprefix=ryzen+7+rtx+3060+%2Caps%2C1575&sr=8-5

[tropic agate]

or talk a bit more

[nimble charm]

just remove the space

[stoic crest]

nitro 5 has one of the lower tgp 3060's

[nimble charm]

what abt this one? seems contras ratio and tgp is bad

[nimble charm]

hmm

does it make a big difference in perf?

[stoic crest]

but it's india so i wouldn't expect like a legion 5 to be same price

eh, not that much

[nimble charm]

hmm

[grand orbit]

i would wait for @oak sentinel to come back online

[stoic crest]

yeah

[nimble charm]

ya ok

it 1030pm here

gn

[oak sentinel]

whomst hath summoned the lazy one

i shall scroll

dw

[grand orbit]

3060 lappy for india

[oak sentinel]

https://www.amazon.in/ASUS-15-6-inch-i7-11800H-RTX-3060-FX566HM-HN100T/dp/B09CCKX5K9

[fleet marlin]

Amazon has a 32" 165Hz display for $231, then I find out it's 1080P

[nimble charm]

means?

[nimble charm]

still a cool price

[nimble charm]

not an intel lover

[oak sentinel]

Ok. You dont have to love intel to recognize that their 11th gen laptop cpus were top tier

[opal flume]

11th gen laptop cpus pretty pog

Better than stinky 10th gen with no undervolting

[nimble charm]

tru but multi core performance is in the hands of amd

[oak sentinel]

No?

[nimble charm]

and i do other rendering , rasterization etc so

[nimble charm]

uuh

ok leme check some rewiws and then talk

[fleet marlin]

nope

[fleet marlin]

indeed. Their single core perf slapped (cinebench because it was quick,

[stoic crest]

11800H has same multi core to 5800H

And it's about as efficient too

AMD no longer wins on multi core, its equalized by Intel since 11th gen

At least for mobile

And 12th gen is about to be better than AMD, if the e-cores are utilized correctly

[nimble charm]

hmm

ok thanks for the info

is it worth to wait for the 12th gen?

[azure pond]

12th gen is already out

[grand orbit]

[azure pond]

12700k is below msrp on neweggs deals

[stoic crest]

he's speaking of laptops

[azure pond]

ah

[nimble charm]

lol

[nimble charm]

still comparing compareable models with brands, amd wins in desktops except gaming

and 7000 series is gonna crush intel

[grand orbit]

Uhh okay in multi core 5950x can outperform a 12900k but it's close and depends, but this doesn't matter as you're looking for a laptop

[grand orbit]

We don't know that, they might they might not

[nimble charm]

ya agree totally

[nimble charm]

uuh but its 16 cores against 16

i hope

[grand orbit]

What?

[nimble charm]

ntng

nvm

i am hoping amd would push more than 16 cores i meant

[grand orbit]

I mean they might well do but doesn't matter right now cuz it wont be for at least 6 months

[nimble charm]

but if you are planning to build a pc for sucha budget its worth the wait

[fleet marlin]

Eh, it's more like a 12 or 14 core if you count the Ecores haha. Imagine how good a full 16 Pcore cpu would be.

[grand orbit]

Ehh not really, if you're using a pc like that you're most likely using it for work/making money off of it

[stoic crest]

12th gen already has more than 8 cores

e-cores

alder lake is revolutionary for laptops tbh

in perf and efficiency

[shrewd aspen]

Hmm sounds awfully familiar

[stoic crest]

no

it ain't fx

this is where lots of cores actually makes things good

[shrewd aspen]

I wasn't referring to fx was talking more like sounding like TR more cores means better kinda idea lol

[stoic crest]

oh

[shrewd aspen]

Mainly first gen or second I can't remember where it kinda was a waste

[stoic crest]

mhm

but then optimizations drops

and boom, they're now useful

[shrewd aspen]

True

[stoic crest]

same case for alder lake

rn support for stuff is kinda.. rocky

[oak sentinel]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

[nimble charm]

wut lool

[nimble charm]

ya thats what i was talking abt

[marsh sphinx]

We’re can I get help finding a laptop

[grand orbit]

!ask

[ebon stratus]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[west coral]

hp may not work so try best buy price match

[fair moon]

can you not get desk pads thru the Hyte deal anymore?

I'm only seeing the T-shirt option

[grand orbit]

@west coral i don't see any gpu listed in specs just that it's compatible am i blind?

[grand orbit]

yeah i was looking for in separate thingy

[brittle lagoon]

prob pretty low pl

but really nice deal still

[grand orbit]

yeah still gonna beat like 3050 ti laptops at that price with a 10300h or somethign

[brittle lagoon]

mhm

[opal flume]

@marsh sphinx Don't use #tech-deals for discussion, use this channel please

[azure pond]

the laptop isnt 989 anymore

atleast not for me

sadly

[marsh sphinx]

It’s it still in stock

Is it?

That’s a good price

[grand orbit]

Not for 1600

[marsh sphinx]

Oh

Sad

[marsh sphinx]

I thought it was 900$

[azure pond]

it originally was

sale ran out

was thinking about it

but i mostly need a laptop with a decent battery life

[grand orbit]

Still in stock, but price up at 1600 now :/

[opal flume]

Flash sale I guess

[marsh sphinx]

Dang I was gonna get that

I need a better pc

[opal flume]

HP don't want too many people buying their pepeg laptops for too cheap

Otherwise it might be a good deal

[marsh sphinx]

I’m sad now

[marsh sphinx]

Otherwise it would expose the true msrp

[azure pond]

my brother bought the 2070s mq version of that laptop november of 2020

its a decent laptop

havent tested the cooling on it

ive wanted to test it for a while but havent gotten around to it

[grand orbit]

Actually decent laptop just not for the price, if it was like ~1400 it would be good

[azure pond]

was so tempted to buy that

[opal flume]

I mean, yeah it seems like a decent laptop, need to see the cooling to make anything more than decent determination, for $900 it is a pretty excellent deal. Just can't expect HP to be generous with deals for too long

Gotta be quick on the draw with too good to be true deals like that

[azure pond]

biggest reason i didnt was i need a decent battery life

but its such a good deal i was still tempted

[grand orbit]

Cooling should be fine, the 3070 in that has a low tdp

[grand orbit]

Would probably have been pretty good

[azure pond]

nah its a 140w

atleast the link i saw to it on reddit said it was

[grand orbit]

115w

From notebookcheck

[azure pond]

Notebookcheck more reliable than a random redditor tho

[grand orbit]

Notebookcheck? Must have clicked on wrong one

[azure pond]

wat

[grand orbit]

Is that fron notebook check?

I must have clicked on wrong laptop if so

[azure pond]

no

[grand orbit]

Ahh

That was reddit ?

[azure pond]

yeah, thats why i said notebook check more reliable than a random redditor

[grand orbit]

Ah right i got confused, the colour and layout of the text kinda looked like notebook check

[azure pond]

ah

whats a 115w 3070 comparable to?

desktop 2070s?

[loud sandal]

did some digging and researching and i found this if you are looking for laptop
has 11th gen cpu and 3070 130 watts and thunderbolt and good price while getting money back

also battery is 99whr

battery can last about 10 hours on igpu ONLY but thunderbolt you can charge it via usb type C do you could bring a battery bank with you and charge it

@azure pond btw i looked at the laptop you sent in chat

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GF65-Thin-10UX/Specification

its 75 watts

the good laptops i could find is these

I did find this but 2 things to mention is 1. gpu power is 105 and 2 is only 8Gb on board ram if you dont run ram in same compacity ig it doesnt sync and you run into single rank vs dual rank and running single rank means less fps but im not sure on the %

this laptop does run gpu at 130 but theres no thunderbolt just USB type C with display port 1.4

if you rich rich this pc gives gpu 165 watts plus 94whr battery

[light bay]

yuck barracuda

crappy smr drive

[loud sandal]

no its not

[marsh sphinx]

It’s meh

Plus that’s not really that big of a price drop

[loud sandal]

well yea not a lot but did you see 1TB price

its like 50 cents less

[warm thicket]

If it's SMR, it's crappy for the average desktop user

[loud sandal]

what is SMR

this is how much i paid yea its like $10 but

[warm thicket]

Shingled Magnetic Recording

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aztTf2gI55k

[light bay]

tbh id rather a 1tb barracuda over a 2tb

atleast the 1tb is cmr

[warm thicket]

^^^^^

[loud sandal]

😳 i think i mostly used mine for games

[warm thicket]

SMR drives are fine for cold storage

[light bay]

https://www.amazon.com/WD-Blue-2TB-Hard-Drive/dp/B07JC1TQ7N/

[warm thicket]

But not for gaming or many other uses

[light bay]

this is a much better drive for basically same price

[loud sandal]

thats 5400 rpm

[light bay]

doesnt matter

its also cmr

which makes it basically identical to 7200rpm smr drive perf

[warm thicket]

I would rather a 5400 RPM CMR drive

[light bay]

despite less rpm

yeah

[warm thicket]

That does not take in SMR vs CMR

[light bay]

thats assuming not cmr to smr or vice-versa

[warm thicket]

You can't just use the first data you see from google

[light bay]

thats assuming just speed of the drive

[opal flume]

Better yet, the 7200rpm version is $2 more

[light bay]

yeah

[loud sandal]

writing data means putting stuff onto the hard drive

[light bay]

yup thats what writing data is

[void whale]

lol I see you had the same idea before me, I didnt even check this chat

[light bay]

also those barracudas have a meh reliablity

i guess for games it mostly wont matter since most have saves online, but having a drive die still sucks

[marsh sphinx]

i got a 2tb barracuda for free shrug

[loud sandal]

i mean mine didnt die for a long time but it did and i think it died bc i was moving it around a lot and touching it

wait

@light bay https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-Internal-3-5-Inch-ST4000DM004/dp/B071WLPRHN this is what NZXT gave me

is this smr too

[warm thicket]

Yes

[loud sandal]

THATS WHY ITS SO SLOW

[marsh sphinx]

Almost all 1 star reviews

[loud sandal]

what

it has 4.5

[warm thicket]

Lmfao, never trust Amazon reviews

some of the worst crap ever

[loud sandal]

no i domt but im just saying

[warm thicket]

4 1 star reviews on the front page lmao

[marsh sphinx]

Lmao

[loud sandal]

i mean

they gave 4 stars

SUS

@warm thicket @light bay heres what my drive speed is

idk what these number mean but you might LOL

[dark notch]

why yall buying hard drives in 2022

[azure pond]

Hdds good for extra space

Games and stuff that don't need an ssd

[light bay]

You saying you can afford a 16tb ssd for your homework?

That's impressive

[dark notch]

i get my homework off my friends server

SSD is cheap enough for games

[fleet marlin]

4TB is only $65 btw (5400rpm model of course) 4TB 7200 is closer to $90 expectedly

[light bay]

Yeah, I was just proving a point

Didn't really look for anything other than a direct comparison

[civic sun]

me stare at bricked barracuda right next to me

[oak sentinel]

how did that happen then?

[civic sun]

no idea, it's not even mine someone told me to look at it but I haven't had any time to actually look at it besides attempting to spin it up once

[cloud hornet]

@light bay WD Blue 2tb and up is SMR

Also consider that people here generally use for game install storage, somewhat rare to do writes

Only WD drive line ups with guarented CMR is WD Red Pro/Plus (WD Red non-Pro/Plus is SMR) and WD Purple

Anything else is dependent on the drive capacity. Such as what I said above, from what I could find WD Blue/Green/Red 1tb and lower are SMR

Also smth to consider with SMR/CMR; there are some and potentially most SMR drives that do have CMR cache in addition to the DRAM(?) cache

[cloud hornet]

Also going back to this, game installs would be capped be internet more often then a meh SMR drive.

The takeaway here: CMR > SMR yeah, but dont get too hooked up about it.

[brittle lagoon]

Useful thingy
https://hddscan.com/blog/2020/hdd-wd-smr.html

And yea cmr is better but it's not THAT big of a difference

[ebon stratus]

Sadit?#0262 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[plain ledge]

is this good?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162027?Item=N82E16813162027&quicklink=true

[grand orbit]

Not really, if you don't mind what colour, get msi z690 a pro, if you want white, get asus prime z690 -either prime a or prime p

[plain ledge]

whats the cons of it since i rlly like how it looks but if the cons are bad i can reconsider

[grand orbit]

Basically it's a 190$ board that's marked up by 60$, meh power delivery less m.2 slots, rear io is meh
If you wanna learn more check this vid, he starts talking about the board you're looking at around 47 mins, watch from there on
https://youtu.be/fEoNInG7cZQ

[plain ledge]

Thanks alot

[grand orbit]

Np

[snow basalt]

anyone know a good deal for a 3060

[rose ocean]

If you can find one for sale, chances are that's the best price you will find.

[fleet marlin]

Near (orig) msrp would be a decent "deal". Soooo

[jolly inlet]

Anything under $450 for a 3060. MSRP is $330 but not a single model exists near that price.

[fresh sapphire]

is it really? holy crap..

[fleet marlin]

yeah and 60 ti was $400, lol. (for FE)

[worn basin]

is this real ?

320 i mean

[grand orbit]

That it's 320$? What ya asking about?

[worn basin]

oh nvm im dumb

[nimble charm]

sed

[fleet marlin]

There's 2 or 3 listings for some items btw. Alternate sellers sometimes.

[azure pond]

Correct me if I'm wrong, is this 4400c15? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXLFDL6/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_dl_WQTPM27AXFFDXR6RWASP

Nvm

I didn't see base timings, just the cl

It's c19

[grand orbit]

Still a really good deal, that's b die

[azure pond]

yeah

[merry palm]

What's the benefits of b die?

[grand orbit]

You can oc the snot out of it

[azure pond]

if i had an intel cpu id buy it in a heartbeat, but id have to mess with downclocking to see benefit

could probably get 3600c14 easily on it though

[grand orbit]

3800cl14 easy

[azure pond]

hows your crucial kit ocing so far?

i saw you say smthn about it the other day, have you gone any further?

[grand orbit]

This is the 3200cl16 ballistix kit btw

[azure pond]

pato ima be honest

i have no clue how to read that

[grand orbit]

Lol, primaries are 14-9-19-12-27
On intel the primaries tRCD WR and WD are combined but sperate on amd

[azure pond]

wow

[grand orbit]

:)

[grand orbit]

So if you were comparing to timings listed as xmp it would be 14 19 12 27 but still good, also the other timings better

[plain ledge]

do ddr5 motherboards support ddr4 ram? i am really new into pc's

[grand orbit]

No

[light bay]

Sure with an adapter

But it'll make latency and stuff crap

And the adapters aren't quite released yet

[grand orbit]

Basically no

[raw juniper]

Is the Razer Nari Essential headset for $42 the best headset you can get for that price?

[fleet marlin]

Wireless*. Yeah, probably worth a try. It's also currently $56 on amazon just for reference.

[keen marsh]

Razer makes decent headphones, but their warranty sucks. 😅

[fleet marlin]

Luckily never had to use it, or bothered to. My previous deathadder started doubleclicking on 1 button so I got the $22 essential model for now. o.g. Tarantula still working fine, along w/ the Kraken Ultimate (so far). Don't mean to be a razer shill, lol.

[brittle lagoon]

@grand orbit decent deal but I think that's common price for txm in gbp?

[grand orbit]

Pretty much around that but still very good

Literally like the cheapest A tier bar the txm 550 for 5£ less

[azure pond]

12400f has been in stock consistently for 179 on b&h

[grand orbit]

Tbf it's not in stock atm

[azure pond]

It's not?

[grand orbit]

Nope

[azure pond]

First time it hasn't been since it came out ig, atleast that I've seen

[grand orbit]

Yep only oos last few days

[grand orbit]

Actually i just checked, i had just Amazon selected under merchants of pcpp 🤦

[late kraken]

has anyone ever encountered an issue with open box deals before on newegg? one of them is perfect for my friend and in his price range but hes concerned with the all the parts might not be there thing as in the comp will come and not work because it doesnt have cables for the gpu etc

neither of us are sure how it works

lol

[brittle lagoon]

It's like refurb but not really used, it should be delivered in working order, only thing it might be missing is extra cables, like say extra sata cables or maybe the HDMI cable it should've came with

[cloud hornet]

Oh boy, sometimes I do that and just die

Sometimes wonder the heck happened to prices/availability to stuff Im looking at.

[light bay]

@graceful mantle how's that a good deal?

Bitfenix 750 formula is same price and way better in every aspect except modularity

And bitfenix 650 whisper is same price and better in every single way

[graceful mantle]

I just thought that since it was from a reputable brand, was fully modular and was a decent price for the wattage imo that it would be a good deal

[brittle lagoon]

Hive is meh anyways

[light bay]

Would you buy a pgm if it was on a huge clearance?

[light bay]

What tier is it?

[brittle lagoon]

C

[light bay]

Low priority?

[brittle lagoon]

ye

[light bay]

Oof

[dull flame]

How much is a pig with it's own saddle?

[grand orbit]

Yeah i wanted to le die

[grand orbit]

@grave delta your deal looms familiar

XD

[grave delta]

lol - I searched for the link, didn't see anything, yeah, I'm surprised it's stil llive

[grand orbit]

Insane deal

[grave delta]

oh damn, didn't notice those were 3 pin

[grand orbit]

Yeah

Still good

[fleet marlin]

They're usually stuck at 1800 rpm or what? Oh, perhaps we can simply undervolt them. Around 50% cheaper than the pwm ones for me.

[grand orbit]

Nope, you can do fan curves, dc just doesn't have as precise %'s basically

[azure pond]

theres supposed to be a best buy drop today

be ready

[marsh sphinx]

WHEN

I need

Gpu

When

@azure pond

[azure pond]

theres no way to know exactly when

[marsh sphinx]

Dang

[azure pond]

but leaks say there will be a bb drop sometime today

[marsh sphinx]

Ok

Ok

Mass ping me if there is

Is it in person or online

[azure pond]

yes

[cunning girder]

Ping me too

[azure pond]

@marsh sphinx

@cunning girder

[marsh sphinx]

They sold out

I was in the queue

[azure pond]

FE sold out very fast

theyre super botted because theyre fhr

theres non FE still in stock

[marsh sphinx]

I only want a fe

Because of fhr and msrp

[cunning girder]

Damn I was taking a test

Rip

[raw juniper]

I was quick enough to get in the que for a 3060ti FE but not quick enough to actually get it 😔 until next time

[azure pond]

i got in queue for 3080 fe twice, 3070 fe twice

got none

[marsh sphinx]

Dang that sucks

I remember I had an opportunity to get a 3060 fe when they released but I decided not to get one

[swift flare]

i just want any type of 3060 TI, but if now is expensive, with 20% more then how to buy it... another year no PC...

[loud sandal]

You never get gpu unless you fast

[marsh sphinx]

I was fast

[loud sandal]

Be faster

[marsh sphinx]

I guess

[marsh sphinx]

be fasterer

[opal flume]

@silent solar Do not use #tech-deals to ask questions about or discuss tech deals

[marsh sphinx]

@void vigil that is a trash deal

[void vigil]

Oh

Ima delete it

[azure pond]

I woulda had a 3080 but it dropped during the 5min I left my pc to get food

[loud sandal]

Omg

[marsh sphinx]

When will the next drop be

[opaque sparrow]

:8ball: | It is certain, Fal'Cie

[jolly inlet]

There will be one then. At some point.

[pseudo osprey]

hi

how are you

[graceful mantle]

@light bay how is that a bad deal

A 3060 prebuilt for $1100 is good considering they usually go for $1200 or 1300

[light bay]

Recently 3060ti and 10/11400f abs prebuilts have been under 1200 range, even new

[graceful mantle]

what

show me one

[light bay]

They oos now

But they were in a couple days ago

So unless you're hard hard capped at 1100 usd, it's way way better value to go 3060ti for the extra 100 bucks

It's like 2060s vs 2080s, huge perf uplift

[graceful mantle]

ive never seen a 3060ti prebuilt sub 1200

unless it black friday

[light bay]

I've seen open box a little below for 3060ti

And brand new just above

So it seems p decent imo

[graceful mantle]

but i mean its still a good deal tho

[light bay]

I guess if you need a PC rn and only have 1100

[graceful mantle]

considering that the 3060ti prebuilts in that price range are either really rare or sold out

[light bay]

But it's such a limited scope idk

[keen marsh]

Nah the prices raised a bit in the last few weeks

everything below the 3080 went up like 100-300$ from ABS. if you don't include open box PC's

[fleet shore]

I found a brand new R3 1200 for 800dh

In my local gaming pc part seller

[fleet shore]

Wich is 80$

[grand orbit]

Yikes, rip off

Should be able to get an i3 10100 or 12100 for not much more

And it would be soo much better

[fleet shore]

I want an AM4 socket cpu for upgradeability

Even tho it'l change soon...

But you have to see the mo bo prices in here T-T

[grand orbit]

If you want upgradability go 12100

Ryzen 1000 gets absolutely demolished by anything recent

[fleet shore]

And btw its like the only platform that I can build on on my price tag

But I found an IN STOCK gpu for 350$

in morocco intel is sacred for pcs and they add up to that price

[grand orbit]

What's your budget in local currency?

[fleet shore]

6500morocan dirhams

Dh

Even tho I have to go ama still be on the listen for you @grand orbit okey

Peace out for now

[grand orbit]

Okay if you can link a few sites i can have a look

[fleet shore]

This is the cpu in question

https://www.pcgamer.ma/amd/171115-amd-ryzen-3-stepping-1200-af-340-ghz-socket-am4-boxed-microprocesseur.html

pcgamer.ma

Ultrapc.ma

Pcpromaroc.ma

Ise the translation thingie its in french

[grand orbit]

okay ill have a look

[fleet shore]

Thanks dude you'r a legend

[tropic agate]

if it’s in your budget, the 2200g or the 2600 are better options

[grand orbit]

btw is the 6500 excluding or including the gpu price?

[grand orbit]

2200g isnt really, its still zen 1

[tropic agate]

yeah, true

You can usually get the 2600 for around £120 (1,509.08 Moroccan dirham)

[grand orbit]

doesnt always cross over, also 120£ for a 2600 is an oof

[tropic agate]

yeah, I agree

old but still pretty expensive

in the uk, prices on cpus have been stupid lately

£173.69 for a 1600

[grand orbit]

https://www.ultrapc.ma/processeurs/4254-amd-ryzen-3-4300ge-35-ghz-4-ghz-mpk-processeurs.html
https://www.pcgamer.ma/socket-am4/171130-asus-prime-b450m-a-ii-socket-am4-carte-mere.html
anyway id probably do something like this

[graceful mantle]

Its back to normal price

And out of stock

[grand orbit]

Was just showing you one

[graceful mantle]

What im saying is that the 3060ti ones are out of stock very fast, so its not reasonable to say “just spend $100 more for a 3060ti” when they’re out of stock

[minor lava]

Yoooo pato grats on mod assist

[light bay]

Well, with spending a sum of money like $1200, most people would rather wait for a few days and get snag a way better system rather than just buying one that's in stock at that very moment

[graceful mantle]

Well what if some people cant afford anything more expensive?

A $95 is pretty big

[light bay]

85 but yeah

I doubt many of the people here are that capped at 1105, I bet most of them would go the extra 85 if they realized the huge perf difference

[graceful mantle]

Yeah but the thing is they’re never in stock

[light bay]

They are

You just have to snag them

Check every once in a while

[fleet shore]

God damn

Actually tho

I found a better mobo

Its a B550M pro4

[silent rampart]

@west coral you lied to me

[west coral]

y

[marsh sphinx]

Is that Starbucks thing real and is it in Canada?

[fair moon]

It seems to have ended

Idk if it was real

[oak sentinel]

takes 4-5 days he said

[west coral]

the way it works is they send you some messages for 5 days every day about motivation or whatever, and at the end you get your points which should be dropped to an account on starbucks rewards

[fair moon]

Msg freq varies Msg&data rates may apply HELP for help STOP to cancel.
The Good Vibe Messenger has ended. Starbucks sends you positivity, love, & joy for 2022.

This makes it sound like it ended

[pulsar fable]

A shame

[fair moon]

But at the same time I dunno if it would've been legit

150 stars is quite a bit

[pulsar fable]

That is a good point

[fair moon]

Usually star codes are like 5-15 stars

[west coral]

it was legit, it’s still going on for people who started it earlier

[azure pond]

i ordered the crucial ram a day or two ago, says it will get here feb 18th-20th

im guessing thats a high ball, but well see

[light bay]

for $90?

[azure pond]

yeah

[light bay]

Nice

[azure pond]

both excited and hating life for ram ocing

[light bay]

Ram oc but Ryzen? Aight

You needa get Intel for ram oc smh

Your 3600 won't even really care too much above 3600mt/s

Which that ballistix will probably get to fairly easy

[azure pond]

im hoping to get 3600c14

[jolly inlet]

Depends which die you get. 3600c16 wouldn't be bad either.

[azure pond]

yeah, better than 3600c18 with a 38 subtiming

[jolly inlet]

Eww

[azure pond]

I'm sending my current kit to my SO once I replace it, since they have 8gb of 2400mhz... on an apu

[hushed python]

My 5900X and 12700k produce similar results. As long as you have a good board and recent chip, it'll be fine.

[light bay]

on what ram?

at some point you wont be able to beat intel imc

[azure pond]

Ram isn't all that matters

Intel def has better ram ocing as you said

[light bay]

theres a reason all these people who do competitive ram oc dont use ryzen

yeah

[azure pond]

10900k can do 4000mhz ram easily

[hushed python]

Idk, I see plenty of subs with Cezanne...

[azure pond]

5900x would start to have issues around 3800-4000

[light bay]

yeah fclk is the limitation

[grave delta]

Why would you say that's "better"

[hushed python]

Synced fCLK would cause issues, yes

But if you're doing RAM OC for the RAM, it's fine

[grave delta]

More dram mhz? sure, but why choose a cpu based on that alone

[hushed python]

RKL and ADL fall apart at 3800+ too

[azure pond]

Jay didn't say anything about which cpu is better, just compared the memory ocing capabilities

[hushed python]

Neither my 5900X nor 12700k can't go past 3900 synced

[azure pond]

And said that me ocing ram on a 3600 will hit a limit much sooner than an Intel equivelant

[hushed python]

Memory OC capabilities are the same

[azure pond]

12700k literally supports ddr5

?

[hushed python]

If you want to say synced, you're topping 3900-4000 if you're lucky

Desynced, they're the same

[hushed python]

3900 synced aka Gear1

[light bay]

also keep in mind its a 3200cl16 rated kit lol

[hushed python]

You can't run DDR5 in gear 1

[light bay]

i was just joking he needs intel for a ram like that

lol

[azure pond]

3600c14 would be nice but I'll prolly settle for 3600c16, because I value my sanity

[light bay]

yeah

[hushed python]

Will depend entirely what die you get

[grave delta]

Or buy the 3200c14 I linked in #cpus-mobo-and-memory and clock it to whatever you want

[hushed python]

^

[grave delta]

That kit will do 3800 14 14 14 28 1t if your cpu can

[light bay]

thats $220 tho

the kit he bought was $90

[grave delta]

Or 4400 c16 intel 10th gen, 3733 c14 tight 12th gen gear 1 etc

[hushed python]

My 2x8 S8B can do 4533 16-18-18 stable

[grave delta]

Sure, but it's $220 because it's 2x16

Can get similar 2x8 for $100

[light bay]

the ballistix is too

[azure pond]

I went for a 90$ 3200c16 kit

[grave delta]

I hope that's 2x16

[light bay]

2x16 3200cl16 for $90 is a steal

[azure pond]

I was hesitant to upgrade to a different 16gb kit

[azure pond]

Yes

[light bay]

it is

[azure pond]

It was prollt the only way I was gonna buy new ram, if it was that 32gb kit lol

[light bay]

lol

[azure pond]

Didn't want to upgrade to a different 16gb kit just to get top 100 for my setup on 3dmark

[grave delta]

Do you know what IC is in the kit you bought?

[azure pond]

Nah I don't

It's the same kit pato has

[grave delta]

One of my friend's daily OCs https://i.imgur.com/HcYbfwB.jpg

[hushed python]

At least it's crucial.

[light bay]

prolly rev e

[grave delta]

Oh, nice, yeah, guaranteed rev.e/b. Hope for b

Will be easy to tell once you get them

[azure pond]

I'm not going to go crazy with the tuning as soon as I get them

Just gonna go for 3600c16 at first and see where that gets me

[light bay]

yeah

[azure pond]

After that i might try to tighten subtimings more and then might lower initial depending

[grave delta]

Rev.e/b are so common there's tons of info for tuning out there.

[azure pond]

But I dont want to spend 5+ hours in a single day on it lmao

[grand orbit]

For rev e, ryzen is actually bit better because tRCD isn't tied together

[grand orbit]

So was this ballistix kit tho :p

[fleet marlin]

Recall the best you did at 1.45 or 1.4v? Perhaps these would be a waste to try 😅

[grand orbit]

I just sent 1.5v why?

[fleet marlin]

I mean 1.5 ok to really daily?

[grand orbit]

For rev e, yes, for other dies no

[fleet marlin]

gotcha. Also pic for lulz. Will be a nice surprise eventually.

[grand orbit]

You getting the ballistix kit for your rig?

[fleet marlin]

Thought of it. I sold the G.skill. Yeah I'm gonna. Probably can easily do 3600c16 at about 1.35v at the least. I'm an OC noob.

[grand orbit]

You might have to up voltage a bit but it's fine, rev e can do higher than 1.5v safely

[grave delta]

You can run rcdwr 8 on b-die

[fleet shore]

Eyo actualy yes (sorry I am extremely late had some exams for tomorow)

[grand orbit]

Including? If so yeah go with what i sent, without, then go with you can do something better probs

[fleet shore]

I found and rx 580 used for 270$ and a new PALIT OC GTX 1650 GDDR6 for 356$

[grand orbit]

Rx 580 any day

[fleet shore]

Just have to see if he is still willing to gib that for that price

It was originally going for 400$

Its my skill to get fown prices on used I know I know xD

So its Rx580 4gb XFX and a AMD Ryzen3 1200 / 4950 and 16gb T force Team group 3000mhz CL16 an AsRock B550M pro4 and Aerocool LUX 550W 80+ bronze and finally aDark Flash meshify DM21L white All at a total of drumroll 720$

[grand orbit]

Umm ryzen 1000 doesn't work on b550

[fleet shore]

T-T pain

So then ummm

4590 it is

[azure pond]

What 4950

i7-4950? I haven't heard of a ryzen 4950

[fleet shore]

R3 the oem one

[azure pond]

What's your budget for the cpu

[fleet shore]

Very much under 150$

[azure pond]

Look for a used 2600 or 3300x

[fleet shore]

And am sorry its Ryzen 3 4350G pro

[grand orbit]

They're not in the us

[fleet shore]

Our used market is very bad

[azure pond]

Ahhh

[jolly inlet]

4350G is significantly better than 1200 anyway

[fleet shore]

https://www.ultrapc.ma/processeurs/3013-amd-ryzen-5-3600-wraith-stealth-36-ghz-42-ghz-processeurs.html

Uhhhh well

100$ more and I got 6 cores

[brittle lagoon]

not really worth 100usd for 6 cores over 2 cores

[jolly inlet]

Honestly, not really worth it just for extra cores imo

[fleet shore]

Hummm

Well ok

[brittle lagoon]

if it was like 12400, go for it, but its just a 3600

[jolly inlet]

How much was that 4350G? It's not a bad processor at all

[grand orbit]

They're in Morocco or something, 4350g was best option

[jolly inlet]

4c/8t with igpu

30% better raw single core performance over the 1200 he was considering

[fleet shore]

1990dh

200$

[brittle lagoon]

Morocco might get shipping from french/spainish retailers

[fleet shore]

Yes indeed morocco

[fleet shore]

Uhmmm about that... taxs and border fees

Its 100$+

[jolly inlet]

4350G remains your best option then

[brittle lagoon]

unfortunate, so 4350g it is for now

[fleet shore]

Yup

[fleet shore]

Well I guess its unlocked

As always

Get my self a coolermaster fan cooler and add like some .5ghz to it

[grand orbit]

Doesn't matter a huge amount, precision boost is great

[grand orbit]

Your most likely better off with the stock cooler and better ram

[fleet shore]

But hey neat price for 2022

And a 270$ rx 580 god damn

[pulsar fable]

Amd stock coolers aren't that bad. Well, at least compared to Intel's offering up until the 12th gen CPUs

[fleet shore]

Heard that it has changed

[fair moon]

Is it 4gb or 8?

[brittle lagoon]

stealth is pretty bad tbh

[pulsar fable]

Or right stealth

[fleet shore]

4gb

[pulsar fable]

My 1600 came with the spire

My bad

[opal flume]

Spire is fine, they just don't give out anymore

[brittle lagoon]

spire is decent, max/prism is great (for stock)

[fair moon]

Yea the spire is alright but stealth is ehh

[pulsar fable]

I forgot after the 1st gen Ryzen they changed to the stealth

[fleet shore]

I would be happy to game at 144hz in apex legends or warzone tho :/

[opal flume]

Nah, I got a spire when I bought an xt cpu. They just decided to go cheapo

[pulsar fable]

Even I can't get 144 fps in warzone at min settings :(

Granted I only have a gtx 1650 super

[fleet shore]

You only...

[brittle lagoon]

2nd gen got stealth+spire+max, 3rd got stealth+spire+prism, 5th got just stealth

[opal flume]

Mhm

[fair moon]

I think it just depends on the cpu. My 3600X came with spire but a friend's 3600 came with a stealth

[brittle lagoon]

2600 gets stealth, 2600x spire, 2700 spire, 2700x max

[pulsar fable]

Compared to the rtx beasts some people have. Still aor better the r7 360 I had earlier

[brittle lagoon]

3600 stealth, 3600x spire, 3700x+ prism

[pulsar fable]

The 2700x got the max? Mine came with the prism

[opal flume]

My 3600xt came with a Spire

[brittle lagoon]

pretty sure 2700x gets max, 2700 got spire, 3700x gets prism

[opal flume]

5600x got a stealth because why not cheap out on stock cooler and go with a premium price

[brittle lagoon]

difference between max and prism is that prism has rgb

otherwise same cooler

[pulsar fable]

Then I'm not sure why my 2700x came with a prism.

[brittle lagoon]

maybe they changed later

I know people with a 2700x and a max

I only got 2700

[fleet shore]

https://www.jumia.ma/palit-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-gamingpro-4gb-gddr6-44008339.html?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pdpshare-apps

[pulsar fable]

Yeah, I got mine after the Ryzen 3000 series released and microcenter was getting rid of inventory

$140 for the 2700x, probably a later revision

[brittle lagoon]

1650 about same as 470 if not worse btw

[fleet shore]

Just sayin

I still have the chance for that rx580 4gb

Oh jeez apparently

[fair moon]

Definitely go for the 580

[fleet shore]

He has 2 cards

[fair moon]

20-30% more frames than 1650 iirc

[fleet shore]

An Asus and an XFX

[grand orbit]

The 580 is better than 1650 and cheaper, it's a no brainer

[fleet shore]

One has GDDR6 and the other GDDR5

[brittle lagoon]

doesn't really matter

stronger core is stronger core

[fleet shore]

https://www.avito.ma/fr/jirrari/accessoires_informatique_et_gadgets/RX_580_ASUS_4Gb_DDR5_47125639.htm

[brittle lagoon]

doesn't matter how much or how fast vram you add on if core is weak

[fleet shore]

Its cheaper too

[fleet shore]

I do find them new GTX 1650 for 200$

Msrp xD

[brittle lagoon]

not really msrp tbh

1650 was a bad value on launch, 1650 super was neat

[fleet shore]

https://www.avito.ma/fr/centre_ville/accessoires_informatique_et_gadgets/rx_580_8gb_xfx__48042101.htm ey ey ey that's the one

8gigs

[brittle lagoon]

well uh, be careful, 'member since 2021', more scams from people making new accounts all the time

[fleet shore]

Normal in morocco

And I have to meet him so

XD

If its a scam I would have done some sport

[brittle lagoon]

just be cautious

[fleet shore]

Okey

[pulsar fable]

Anyone know how good dell's monitors are? Some of them are on sale on dell's site, but I'm not sure if they're worth posting (mainly because I don't really know what makes a monitor good apart from what's on the spec sheet)

[grand orbit]

some good ones

[grand orbit]

search it on rtings and see if they did a review on it

[pulsar fable]

Hmm, nevermind. The monitor is pretty good, but it has similar specs as an m27q at almost the same price ($300 to $330 depending on retailer)

[warm thicket]

Got that free HYTE deskpad today, it's quite nice tbh

[pulsar fable]

At that point, just get an m27q or wait for that to go on sale

[fleet marlin]

Actual specs are sometimes meaningless when it comes to monitors. Response time for instance can be exaggerated.

[pulsar fable]

Well all of it's scores are identical to the m27q's on rting, say for a -.2 in gaming and -.3 in hdr content.

Eh what the heck. If I am to be down voted, so be it.
Quick question tho, can I post multiple links to the same product in the same post, as the price for this slightly differs from retailer to retailer (+/-$10)

[grand orbit]

just post the one with the cheapest ? i mean i guess, try to separate each deal to a separate post tho imo

[molten halo]

honestly the biggest selling point for the m27q is the fact it comes pretty well calibrated for color accuracy out of the box and then also competes with other monitors above and around its price point. Plus kvm switch. (not everyone spending $300 on a monitor is gunna have a color calibrator laying around the house)

[vague pine]

Dell monitors are good, just that theyre fairly expensive and overpriced for what theyre offering compared to the market. That monitor though is pretty good, ever so slightly worse than the m27q on rtings but still a good monitor if on sale

as much hate dell/alienware gets, their monitors are really the only good thing about them especially if you can catch some things on sale

[molten halo]

...and that spicy 5.2/10 color accuracy out of the box

[fleet marlin]

1650 for $300? . It's a $150ish gpu.

[jolly inlet]

It might have been less... For 5 minutes

[dapper cargo]

is 1650 worth for a 3070 gpu prebuilt

[marsh sphinx]

Wdym

[azure pond]

Wat

[marsh sphinx]

As a streaming card yes

For gaming no

[azure pond]

Ohh

$1650

Depends on brand

Also rest of the specs

[fleet marlin]

No, 3070 isn't worth $1650 if that's what they meant. Slightly confusing with "1650" after the gpu we just talked about

[azure pond]

Yeah that's why I was confused

It depends on the specs

1650$ for a 5800x or 12600k build, maybe

3600 and 3070, not so much

Also depends on psu, ram, cooler, case

Pretty much the whole pc

[dapper cargo]

3070, i7 11700f

decent mobo

but apparently the cooling sucks

it’s the asus tuf

idk what motherboard it uses to be honest

[fleet marlin]

Not crazy of a price. Checking current prebuilts and using hardwareswap could give you a better idea of a price range.

[azure pond]

If you're fine with open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559-master/p/N82E16883360189R?Item=N82E16883360189R&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-189R-_-01242022

Newegg doesn't like to show open box pcs for me properly, but there's an open box 10400 3070 ABS build for 1500$ somewhere

[raw juniper]

I am hopefully getting a ryzen 7 5800x tomorrow for $210 from offerup.

I only say hopefully cuz that price sounds too good to be true so something might be up

[fleet marlin]

Yep, usually $350ish so let us know

[raw juniper]

Will do!

[rose ocean]

Mine came too. Super nice packaging, thr mat is okay too!

[earnest cairn]

Anyone know of a Monitor for a decent price at least 100 Hz

[pulsar fable]

Any other specifications or features? Ie. Resolution, panel type, etc

[light bay]

G24F

[marsh sphinx]

wassup with all those bent pins

[marsh sphinx]

corner pins

? its hella noticable

[raw juniper]

Not sure how to respond other than it wasn't to me

[marsh sphinx]

yeah idk it could work

[raw juniper]

How would one go about fixing them? I think I know how it happened too, I think the guy accidently put the cpu in the plastic case backwards

[marsh sphinx]

i really wouldnt recommend touching them

could just make it worse

[fleet marlin]

Use a mechanical pencil and/or credit card to line them up. Go slow

[raw juniper]

Worth a try at least.

[jagged locust]

Very slow

[raw juniper]

I think I got it

[jolly inlet]

Just make sure to go very slow and don't force the cpu in when you place it in the socket. That corner pin might still be a problem.

[raw juniper]

Will keep in mind, thank you!

[marsh sphinx]

nice

yeah just be careful with it

[raw juniper]

I was so anxious I felt like my heart was going to explode lol I don't have a chance to try putting it in my motherboard today so we'll have to "to be continued next time" on this one until tomorrow

[jolly inlet]

Make sure it's in the clamshell case the right way lol

[raw juniper]

Lol it is now. I didn't think much of it when he gave it to me that way, I knew it looked weird but didn't realize the clamshell would do that. Damn AMD and their pins

[brittle lagoon]

Intel still gets pins, just on the mobo

[fleet marlin]

Yeah those kinds should literally drop right in easy. Ikr, intel had lga since a decade ago

[brittle lagoon]

I mean, amd chips also just drop right in easily

Problems come when people try to press it in

[raw juniper]

Yeah, just AMD pins are more accessible.

@marsh sphinx I appreciate you pointing out the pins being bent. My dumbass just missed it entirely.

[marsh sphinx]

yeah no problem

i wouldnt have caught it if they didnt tell you to check in with us after getting the chip

[fleet marlin]

I meant cpus with pins should drop in easy, not be forced.

[raw juniper]

I appreciate all yall in general lol

[raw juniper]

So it fits into the board without persuasion, I think it was a success.

I also just snagged an evga 3060ti on their site so I'd say today was productive.

[dapper cargo]

whats the cheapest place to buy a prebuilt??

[jolly inlet]

That changes basically every day but you can usually find some old Dell workstations for $200 on ebay

[marsh sphinx]

really? on offerup?

[raw juniper]

Oh no no, sorry. On EVGA's site. It was a "b-card" or whatever it's called

[marsh sphinx]

ah alright

[fleet marlin]

B-stock*, like refurbished/returns.

[marsh sphinx]

damn got pretty lucky unless you were in the queue before it was disabled

woah

e5 2699v3 is down to ~150 usd

I NEEEEEED IT

[jolly inlet]

V3 tho

[marsh sphinx]

hey, haswell is still competent

plus, 18 cores

[jolly inlet]

Barely better than the 1650 in my home server

[marsh sphinx]

e5-1650?

[jolly inlet]

I'll take single core perf over huge thread count

Yep

[marsh sphinx]

well if you've overclocked your 1650 then sure i guess maybe?

the point is the core count

[jolly inlet]

Depends on your use case really. I use mine as a file/plex server mostly so single core is king

If you're doing a bunch of vm work cores are nice

[marsh sphinx]

r5 2600's are selling for the same price as the 2699v3 sheesh

[jolly inlet]

You know I was considering adding a second cpu to my server, it's a dual socket. I might go with core count on that one, maybe a 2690v2

[marsh sphinx]

I was considering upgrading my server with two 2650v2's

Last time I checked they were under 20 bucks each

Dang under 15

[jolly inlet]

16 threads only and low single core compared to others
I guess it's an upgrade over nothing lol

[marsh sphinx]

It's really good value though

And yea, in my case it's still an upgrade

[fleet marlin]

Lot of these xeons are way cheaper than their "cousin". Makes me want to snag a xeon version of the 3770 for this old machine, give an extra reason to repaste. Can xeons do games just as well or are there a few quirks I can hear?

[jolly inlet]

Depending on which one you get they may not support SSE instruction sets required by some games

It'll run, just... badly. And crashy.

[marsh sphinx]

I wouldn't recommend ivybridge xeons and older for games in general, with a few exceptions provided they're the 16XX series chips

[fleet marlin]

It'll be temporary, but good to know. Thnx. 3770 nonK is often $40ish also. Perhaps not worth the hassle to soon be a non-gaming setup.

[marsh sphinx]

Yea those old i7's are overpriced

[fleet marlin]

Many are, but people think the "old" stuff has a certain worth that's wack.

[marsh sphinx]

I recently bought an x79 board for 140 bucks lol

It was worth it though, considering what I was getting I'd still call it a good deal

[fleet marlin]

Those can be quite useful, way more than a simple z77/h67 rig.

[jolly inlet]

1660v2 is about equal in single core to 3770k, but has 2 more cores. It also uses 53W more, and currently costs $130.

[raw juniper]

I'm actually surprised cuz it didn't make me go through a queue or anything? Because I have an evga account, it just let me add it to my cart and check out like normal. But yes, very lucky.

[jolly inlet]

You are lucky indeed, B-stock sells out FAST

[marsh sphinx]

@fleet marlin would this fit your use case? https://www.ebay.com/itm/175128259755?

[marsh sphinx]

the 1680v2 can be found cheaper btw

It's actually the next CPU i plan on buying

overclocking

[fleet marlin]

6c would be cool, but if that ebay listing is correct it's a no go (need skt 1155)

[raw juniper]

I'm in a server that has bots that notify when something goes back in stock. Most of the time it's just random ebay listing for $800

As soon as I saw that notification I opened it so damn fast lol

[marble lance]

anyone know about a good deal on a B550 at the moment?

[fleet shore]

Wow Jette un oeil sur cette annonce cpu ryzen 5 3500x https://scmv.page.link/NnXt3sFsmm19rc3r6 a worthy opponent for the ryzen 3 4350GE I was wanting to buy

[raw juniper]

Could go with a second hand one? Especially when the new Ryzen comes out, people will be selling off their boards for the new chipset.

[marsh sphinx]

No, that's a 2011-3 socket

[marble lance]

hm perhaps

[raw juniper]

So much new stuff is coming out right now and soon that the second hand market is really gonna be popping (besides gpus of course)

[marsh sphinx]

Oh you meant you need 1155, read that wrong

In that case you can't use E5 cpus

[fleet marlin]

Yea, mb. Found 4c 1240v2 for $35-40. That's 1 of the 3770 equivalents I think. Good price imo

[marsh sphinx]

You'd have to go for the E3 ones

Yea

I typically stay away from those cpus though, they're usually overpriced, and lack features their e5 counterparts have like quad channel and whatnot

[fleet marlin]

E5 means not skt1155 though for sure huh. I'm just thinking of trying 8T instead of 4T w/ any 3770 or similar, for fun. Anywhere near $40 sounds good.

[marsh sphinx]

Oh yea, there's also 0 upgradability

Well if it fits what you need it for, go ahead

I'm a bit of an lga 2011 and 2011v3 fanatic though so I highly recommend going that route

[fleet marlin]

I know, should've mentioned I'm in process of building 11/12gen rig. Z590 mobo is for sale . Edit, those x58, x-w/e rigs with the quad chan and such always were pretty neat to me. 🤘

[marsh sphinx]

Yea lol

[jolly inlet]

Quad channel DDR3 vs dual DDR4 discussion GO

[fleet marlin]

If it wasn't for mobos getting ddr4 so long ago, I bet ddr3 by itself would be plenty for a while(heck, there's ddr3 that can do near 3000MHz). Hard to get ddr4 to actually duplicate ddr3 speed & timings. I'm a fan of single digit timing, but I literally grew up seeing the change from rdram to sdram, ddr1, 2. Lol

[marsh sphinx]

quad ddr3 better B)

(it depends what platform the ddr4 is on)

or, not the platform, i mean the iteration of it

[fleet marlin]

Yeah, and quad chan basically has twice the mem bandwidth almost huh?

[marsh sphinx]

yea

worse latency though

[jolly inlet]

OMFG
The quad channel Xeons have almost 10GB/s more bandwidth max on the memory controller than the 11900k

1680v2: 59.7GB/s
11900k: 50GB/s

[raw juniper]

Wait I'm an idiot it was a 3060 12 gig not a 3060ti lmaooooo

[fleet marlin]

Quad chan ddr3 2400MHz at like CL10 would be fairly decent

[marsh sphinx]

X79 gang

[fleet marlin]

12GB vram gang?

[raw juniper]

Gang gang

[jolly inlet]

How much was the 3060 then?

Might still be worth it, they can do 1080p max/1440p high

[raw juniper]

Today really has been a rollercoaster of emotions. It was 420 before tax and shipping

I currently have a 5600xt so it isn't much of an upgrade, but I'll sell off that one at cost to recoup some and hopefully get a FE 3060ti restock then sell the 3060 to pay for that one lol

[jolly inlet]

$420 is a good price for a 3060 right now, that's below market value by quite a bit

Performs like a 2070 super in a lot of stuff too

[raw juniper]

Oh yeah, definitely fine with the price I got it for. Just if I could get a FE 3060ti for 400 from a best buy restock (got into the queue for one the other day so it doesn't feel hopeless) I'd rather have that tbh

Definitely still a satisfying card, not trying to knock it at all

[jolly inlet]

I got a 3080 ti FE from the last in person best buy drop. Camped out all day/night. Actually had a lot of fun there, most of us were gamers and brought our Switches so we played some Mario Kart. I wanted a 3080 but they didn't have many.

I also happened to be next to an Intel engineer who's working on the new line of dedicated GPU, so that was some fun conversation.

[raw juniper]

Oh nice!! Me and a friend did something similar for her 3060ti. They only had one left by the time it got to us and she plays games more often than I do so we decided she'd get it. Only thing left after that was 3090s and hahaaaa ain't got money for that thing lol but the euphoria of actually managing to get one was good enough

[jolly inlet]

Surprisingly besides the 3080s that were really low stock, the 3090s sold out first. Probably because scalpers at the front wanting to flip $1500 for $3500.

[raw juniper]

Yuuuup. Really sad. I'll only sell my cards for how much I paid for them. Seeing people trying to sell 5600xts for like 500 is really gross.

Turning these products into investment and speculation vehicles is just so sad

[jolly inlet]

Yeah. At least we're trying to move away from that. Ethereum has an upgrade planned to move off mining completely, and other coins aren't as profitable.

Bitcoin is... well bitcoin

[raw juniper]

Oh? Ethereum is trying to get rid of the mining aspect? Interesting. Still against the idea of crypto in general but that sounds a lot less bad others.

[jolly inlet]

Yep. Soon they'll set off the "difficulty bomb" which will gradually reduce mining profits. Once that's done, no more eth can be mined. In order to get more you have to stake instead of mining.

It's supposed to be waaaaay more energy efficient

[raw juniper]

Interesting! Thanks for that new information. If crypto is here to stay I'd rather it be like that.

[jolly inlet]

I agree. Even though I'm mining myself when I'm not gaming, it's sad how much power even one of these GPUs uses 24/7

[raw juniper]

Yeah, I don't really blame individuals for wanting to mine, it can be profitable, just the medium could be better and hopefully it continues to go in that direction.

I'm off to sleep though. Have a good night and thanks for chatting!

[jolly inlet]

G'night

[marsh sphinx]

I should probably fix my sleep schedule considering classes start in 2 days but..
Nahhhh

[dapper cargo]

are abs worth it

a lot of reviews says otherwise

[jolly inlet]

Most of the complaints against them will be for things every prebuilt for the most part will suffer from like inadequate memory, cooling, power, etc

As far as prebuilts go they're one of the better "budget" brands

[dapper cargo]

oh

ngl i didn’t trust it bc@of the review lol

[jolly inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2vrvQydVIw

They've been buying and reviewing a lot of prebuilts. That's still one of the better ones to date.

Especially in the price bracket.

[marsh sphinx]

Yea ABS is generally well received these days

[dapper cargo]

o rly

yk i’m actually pretty shocked about that only bc people r saying that they won’t turn on m stuff

but they r generally on the cheaper side

[fleet marlin]

Well shipping a whole-ass pc has risks. Sometimes it's as simple as checking a few cables. Also some people probably should stick to a laptop or have a tech buddy check their prebuilt, or just start learning some stuff. :kekw:

Reviews statistically make things appear worse than otherwise. As in, many of us wouldn't say anything unless there's an issue (as minor as it may be)

[dapper cargo]

the thing is in general i heard alot of people said that ABS pc aren't that reliable

especially on reddit

thats why im a bit concerned

[fleet marlin]

1. people who would buy a prebuilt. 2) reddit.

[dapper cargo]

well i dont know how to build a pc

and if i were to upgrade i would have to upgrade everything bc of how old my pc is

so might as well as get a prebuild

[fleet marlin]

No I don't mean that, I mean more like a lot of prebuilt buyers might have a minor/major pc issue then maybe make it worse by trying to fix it. A lot of prebuilt pcs, you look for unplugged cables, hook up power cable and mouse, KB, w/e, then you're good.

[dapper cargo]

oh i see

im lowkey the type who is scared to try and plug the pc and switch things up

i always screw things up lmao

[fleet marlin]

Yeah you can do a prebuilt then change stuff later on. Things like changing ram/gpu/ssd is easy. Lots of YouTube stuff to watch sometime about building pcs. Kitguru, gamersnexus, jayztwocents. Tbh I haven't built a pc in 5+ years 😅

[dapper cargo]

man laying my hands on something so expensive is stil very stressful lmao

but I appreciate

ngl I prob do have to do some adjustment

no matter what prebuilt i get

[marsh sphinx]

Unless it's an Alienware lmao

[fleet marlin]

Yep, that's more like a normal oem vs a prebuit. Alienware, dell, hp... things like that use tons of proprietary stuff often.

[dapper cargo]

unfortunately as a student w 20k debt i cant afford :D

would 3070 be more worth than 3060 ti or na?

[fleet marlin]

Yep. 3050(almost out)<3060 < 3060 ti < 3070. I won't say what is the best deal because everything is above orig msrp currently & prices vary by day.

[dapper cargo]

oh i know that

but im wondering whether or not its worth it

or are the performances like so alike that its not worth that 200 or 100 bucks

cuz im most likely getting a prebuilt since everything in my pc needs an upgrade

[fleet marlin]

Imo, 3070 would be worth it for within $100-150 of 3060 ti. 3060Ti is pretty darn good. Depending on price, the plain 3060 is also a fine pick for 1080p gaming. Beats my 1080 & then some.

[dapper cargo]

oh i see

cheapest 3070 i can find is around 1600

fat rip

[fleet marlin]

Pc or gpu? Lol, that's 3080 price imo, maybe. We might have 10, ,20 & 30 series to shop through, but gpu prices are basically the worst they've ever been. (For buyers)

[oak sentinel]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali506-gladiator/p/N82E16883360106R

[dapper cargo]

oh im talking about a prebuild

not gpu alone

bc for me just getting the gpu is def not worth it at thius price

[fleet marlin]

Yeah that one Rawr linked seems good. 3060 ti build is cheaper but might only cut off $100. Rawr can you find 1 easy?

[dapper cargo]

there is one off best buy with asus thats 1650 w rtx 3070 and i7 11700f

that was the one i was looking for

but people were saying the cooling system need an upgrade immediately so i was like...

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-you-adam-sandler-gif-14612875

Bad case, bad cooler

Meh motherboard

[dapper cargo]

yeah everyone said that the cooler was trash

[oak sentinel]

sure 1 sec

[dapper cargo]

rly hte only good one is the omen one thats 1800k

[oak sentinel]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali506-gladiator/p/N82E16883360106R 3070 $1615
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559-master/p/N82E16883360189R 3060ti $1360

@dapper cargo

[oak sentinel]

literally linked a great one for 1615$

[dapper cargo]

besides abs

[oak sentinel]

probably beats the omen one at everything too

lol

[dapper cargo]

na not saying newegg sucks but i have relation at bestbuy that i can get it for cheaper

well not necessarily cheaper but depending on the situatiion and stock

[oak sentinel]

cheaper =/= better

[dapper cargo]

so im seeing if i can get it at best buy

[oak sentinel]

get the one off newegg

[fleet marlin]

That $1360 is a slammin deal tbh, for including a $600ish gpu I mean. $255 is a solid savings from a 3070 pc (even counting other possible differences between them)

[grand orbit]

You'd need to save like 300$ for it for be worth it personally

[dapper cargo]

what about that cpu

[stoic crest]

what cpu?

10400f?

that's a decent chip

10700f is also okay too

nah, not okay. decent i meant lol

[dapper cargo]

is it better than ryzen 7 5800

comparison like prob not im assuming

[oak sentinel]

not better

but its fine

[stoic crest]

^

it's not a bad cpu by any means tho

[dapper cargo]

icic

did newegg remove the abs prebuilt reviews

[fleet marlin]

10700 8c is overall better, but the 6c 10400 is still plenty for most games. Pretty much beats the 9gen & anything before by a decent amount. Certain items have few reviews, or sometimes none. Not sure if open box stuff can have reviews or not also

[grand orbit]

No

[fleet marlin]

Ah, I noticed the cpu difference also. Yeah, I'd do the better one. (Buy once, cry once)

[azure pond]

@grave delta it's in multiple chats

[azure pond]

That 60ti was in stock for like 5min

[grand orbit]

Surprisingly long

For a tuf no less

[azure pond]

Yeah

[azure pond]

Lol

I coulda ordered it but I'm not buying any lhr card but a 3080, and I'm not going to buy a card to scalp

I atleast have some integrity

[pulsar fable]

Oh I have run out of integrity, it's just that I've also run out of funds

[azure pond]

ABS stands for antilock brake system

[marsh sphinx]

yes

[azure pond]

Idk whether or not to put this in deals or not, but possible best buy drop tommorow at 6am pacific time (9 est I believe)

@marsh sphinx

[marsh sphinx]

Ok

So

7 am for me

[azure pond]

It's not confirmed, just speculation

It's when the 3050 drops and it's possible bb will be doing a drop with it

If there is one it could be later too

[raw juniper]

Hopefully

[grand orbit]

Damm 32gb for 80$ no wonder it's sold out

[fleet marlin]

was $90 on amazon, but yeah. In the middle of checking out it went away.

[pulsar fable]

Dang, sorry to hear

There's a 3200 cl16 version of the kit for $90. Should I post that as well?

[stoic crest]

yes

[fleet marlin]

Perhaps. my bad, I meant the 3200 ballistix 5-6 days ago.

[stoic crest]

it's a nice deal

[raw juniper]

Doesn't look like best buy dropped any cards, oh welllll. Also the newegg shuffle dropped and I know how the market is right now but come on, $500 for the 3050? Seriously?

[brittle lagoon]

that's just strix, blame asus for that

First 3 are all 250$

[graceful mantle]

Imma go for the eagle

[raw juniper]

Oh yeah for sure, just sayin

Good luck!