Looking for a work PC for my mother, she mostly does office stuff but for some reason keeps a lot of tabs open all the time. Are refurbished PCs with I7 worth considering or should I be looking for newer stuff?
#tech-deals-discussion
soft ingot
fair moon
i7 doesn't mean much without the generation as well
uncut plume
Looking for a work PC for my mother, she mostly does office stuff but for some r...
I'd be looking at least 8th gen or newer if you're looking used, 16gb ram and ssd. i5 or i7 aren't as important as the actual cpu. A 10th gen i5 can be better than a 8th or 9th gen i7.
fair moon
Honestly just get her a browser with good tab caching 
soft ingot
i7 doesn't mean much without the generation as well
The one I was worried about was 6th, was also suggested an 8th gen i5 which also scaresw me
soft ingot
Honestly just get her a browser with good tab caching <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Good luck getting her off chrome lol
uncut plume
You need at least 8th gen to have native win 11 support.
soft ingot
She does need a new device, her workstation is ancient
uncut plume
Pretty much everything older is 4 cores too.
soft ingot
uncut plume
That one is using a laptop cpu but yeah, that's a lot newer.
fair moon
Honestly a decent price though, especially with current ram and ssd pricing
soft ingot
That's a laptop CPU? Ugh, I know too little about intel CPUs
fair moon
They putting laptop CPUs in desktop towers 😭
uncut plume
13620h. It would normally be something you see in a laptop or mini pc. The important distinction from a desktop cpu will be that it's soldered to the motherboard instead of socketed. So if it ever fails you can't just replace the cpu.
soft ingot
That's not great but I also doubt I would be allowed to open it unless there was a serious problem anyways lol. Are the laptop ones susceptible to the intel microcoding issue?
uncut plume
The hx were but intel denied that. The hx were the same silicon as the high end desktop models. That one is more like an i5 13400 or 14400 or 12600k.
It was mostly the 13700k, 14700k, and i9s having problems.
fair moon
Not sure how good the 8500G is but there's this
6c/12t zen 4 at 5ghz
Only 16mb l3 cache but I don't think that matters much for light use
Oh 5200mhz ram though. Was wondering how they got a ddr5 system for cheap haha
soft ingot
That'd do it these days unfortuantely
uncut plume
5200 is the base supported speed for 8000g. It's likely 5200 jedec too so cl 42.
soft ingot
I think it's hillarious that my link was the second one she sent me and it was surprisngly good value
uncut plume
8500g is okay, main drawback is the l3 and the pcie lanes being absolutely gimped. You only get 10 and they're gen 4 but if you're not adding a gpu or multiple nvmes it's not a big deal on a prebuilt that's igpu only.
fair moon
Especially with it on 5200mhz though I think the 13620h actually outperforms it cpu wise
uncut plume
For basic work I'd probably take a regular 9600x or 7600 or something though. If you don't want to do slightly more than light gaming the extra gpu power on the g series are pretty irrelevant.
fair moon
Doubt you'll find either of those at that price tho
uncut plume
Most cpu only systems will be intel though. The one I built for my gf last year was 9600x but that was custom and bak when everything was on sale.
soft ingot
Ah the good old days
uncut plume
I should have bought her ram instead of using an rma kit I had laying around. I could have paid for the rest of the pc selling that ram now.
fair moon
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-v500-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-1tb-...
Honestly you could poke around more but this is pretty solid. Good cpu, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, good I/O
I assume she doesn't need any real gpu power?
soft ingot
Nope, most it does is video playback if needed/desired
fair moon
Something upgradeable would be nice in our eyes, but in my experience with older folks who aren't super into tech, they really don't care and would rather just buy a new pc
soft ingot
She wants her PCs to last for a long time, then she's fine upgrading. I don't see anything that's not future resistant on my link
uncut plume
If you can get a dell or lenovo one around the same price they'll have better support/warranty than asus.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/697555/dell-tower-ect1250-desktop-computer Do you have a microcenter?
soft ingot
Closest one is a couple hours away unfortunately
soft ingot
If you can get a dell or lenovo one around the same price they'll have better su...
I've had good luck with lenovo laptops, is asus that bad?
uncut plume
There has been a race to bottom for warranty/support among all the big brands but the gamery brands like asus and msi are beating the bigger brands like leneovo and dell.
I'd generally be sticking to lenovo for laptops too. I have a slim 7i aura 258v that should be arriving this week to replace a dead vivobook.
soft ingot
Wait that might literally be the same one you linked from microcenter but best buy price lol
fair moon
If you can get a dell or lenovo one around the same price they'll have better su...
I'd second this. I've had pretty solid experiences with Dell
fair moon
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/dell-desktop-intel-core-ultra-5-225-2025-16gb-me...
Pretty similar cpu perf to the 13620H. Better efficiency but that doesn't matter outside of laptops. Not sure if it's worth $100 more
soft ingot
Pretty similar cpu perf to the 13620H. Better efficiency but that doesn't matter...
Even for Dell vs Asus?
fair moon
Yeah. Dell might have a bit better support but realistically I don't think it's worth paying the much more.
uncut plume
I checked some other places and for a new one I don't see anything better than those. Costco the only one really on sale is a 265 with 32gb for $850 which isn't bad but I feel like we have crept up rather a lot on price from where you wanted to be already.
soft ingot
I checked some other places and for a new one I don't see anything better than t...
Do you have a preference between the two or do you agree with stevie?
uncut plume
You were asking about a refurb 6th gen originally. Were you trying to get it really cheap like that? A 10400 6c/12t with 16gb ram and an ssd should be like $250-300 used.
soft ingot
I was sent a few refurbished rigs that were not quite that cheap so I think she's ok with a bit higher price as long as it lasts. That was my qualm with going refurb
uncut plume
https://www.ebay.com/itm/406914203016?_trksid=p2332490.c101886.m1851 If you wanted to go cheap that looks decent. 6th/7th gen ones should be significantly less than that, not more.
The other two we looked at are both alright but they aren't especially good deals or anything that you'd need to hurry and buy before it sells out or a deal ends.
soft ingot
Should I be looking/waiting for anything or should I go happy mother's day/birthday and send it?
uncut plume
If the timeline for some personal event like a birthday lines up then not much you can do about that. You might be able to get something a little nicer or a little cheaper waiting is all.
stoic crest
honestly, cloud stinger 2 core is just a bad headset even if it's cheap
it has an overpoweringly bassy, dark sound profile
stoic crest
i have seen refurbished arctic 1 wired
i have one personally in the wireless version, and it sounds excellent
i use it wired tho
fair moon
Bro Moistcritikal keeps playing ranked R6 siege with a single earbud 💀
stoic crest
this one's also decent
for not much more money too
but i understand if money is very tight, i'm simply suggesting better alternatives to gather some more dollars for
but then again
say, a kid wouldn't care at all whether a headphone sounds bad or good if you buy one for em to use to play games with
would be a good gift to em regardless
balmy lake
This brings to mind the VLDL skit when Adam finds out why everyone else has earphones.
final grotto
I urge anyone to purchase beyerdynamic headphones. You can wear them for hours without them hurting your ears
fair moon
I can wear my razer kraken TE's indefinitely without hurting my ears
lament ingot
I can wear my razer blackshark v2's indefinitely without them hurting my ears
Doesn't mean they're good, but they sure are comfy
I actually kinda wanna get some good headphones, for both gaming and audio quality
fair moon
Yeah, comfort is independent of audio quality, and can also vary greatly between people
The Kraken TE honestly ain't bad especially after an EQ tune. Once I'm living alone I'll probably splurge on some nice open backs
lament ingot
Want bass
lament ingot
Want bass
"Tell me you're a teenager without telling me you're a teenager" type stuff lmao
uncut plume
I prefer iems now instead of having a big thing sitting on my head and heating up my ears.
lament ingot
I pretty much only wear mine to the gym, they start to hurt after a while
balmy lake
because Theo Yells.
zenith lantern
https://discord.com/channels/500085440221806603/500102969702875156/1504910829030...
lament ingot
@thin bolt theo_irresponsible
tawdry dragon
@cyan tree It's a decent phone, but nowhere near s26u level unfortunately
cyan tree
don't really need the extra...everything thou
yo should i buy it or hold out for the razr 2026? what do you guys think????? 👀
also, 3.5mm headphone jack!!!!! :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
fair moon
We really shilling credit card sign up bonuses in #tech-deals
thin bolt
Yeah I’m gonna remove it.
Let’s avoid that type of thing in the future. We want tech deals, not bonuses for signing up for credit cards
fair moon
Yeah there's a whole subreddit and probably other sites that focus on credit cards
cunning flame
Yeah I’m gonna remove it.
Let’s avoid that type of thing in the future. We want...
primary thing was the 10% cashback lol
was a $260 CPU
thin bolt
I get 33% back on my local kfc with one pay, so it’s not exclusive
bold willow
Just send ur credit card info in tech deals and boom 100% off
bold willow
The Logitech G923 is $264 with a shifter (deal)
The Moza R3 is $330 for Xbox compatibility
Should I spend extra on the Moza R3?
I’ve never used a wheel before
But I want to
I would like Xbox compatibility
But ngl spending $50 more for less seems odd
Especially for my first wheel
I probably won’t use manual shifting or clutch but it would look nice and might be fun to use once Ina while
pallid geyser
I didn’t really like the 923
Just didn’t feel natural
If I were to ever get another id probably get a belt driven
tawdry dragon
does anybody here want assetto corsa?
frosty gate
does anybody here want assetto corsa?
Free code? Heck yeah
tawdry dragon
Are you actually going to use it though
frosty gate
my friend was telling me to try it in VR
final grotto
I would use that
tawdry dragon
Elan give me a sec
final grotto
I take it back, I don't have money to buy a wheel yet
frosty gate
Don't need a wheel, just joysticks is fine
final grotto
I see. I'd still prefer a wheel, thank you though heheh
tawdry dragon
Of course
frosty gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzyCg-OFTKo this video was fun to watch, but admittedly, i'm knee deep in Forza 6 currently 🙂
fair moon
I just started FH6 and ooooh
Bigger, denser map 😍
Subaru Brat 😍😍
As a Toyota and Subaru fan in general, Japan is a great setting
hybrid stone
https://youtu.be/WHksnfH0Ijc?si=YTgevu3pFnofzef8 loaded one here boys
final grotto
Pretty sure that thumbnail is ragebait or something the 9800x3d is better than the newest 9950x3d2
Which makes sense... Cus one is made for gaming .... And the other is for workloads
cunning flame
Pretty sure that thumbnail is ragebait or something the 9800x3d is better than t...
9850x3d =/= 9950x3d2
9850x3d is a higher clocked 9800x3d. it is faster, just not by much. it's like a KS SKU from Intel
final grotto
9850x3d =/= 9950x3d2
I never said that
I was commenting on the video thumbnail
I thought the 9800x3d was the best
mortal blaze
@high radish u think is deal ? Z890 GAMING PLUS WIFI 16GB Starter Kit for $252?
like for reselllllll
that price for an AMD, on my opinion, is good but nah a excellent deal
final grotto
9850x3d is a higher clocked 9800x3d. it is faster, just not by much. it's like a...
But I was wrong, so thank you for correcting me
high radish
<@922257692926574654> u think is deal ? Z890 GAMING PLUS WIFI 16GB Starter Kit ...
I bought 2 of that so I will have 32gb kit and e tra 1 z890 mobo lol . I think deal is alright. Z890 mobo is around 150$ so 100$ for 16gb ram is good
cunning flame
I bought 2 of that so I will have 32gb kit and e tra 1 z890 mobo lol . I think d...
my only problem is that 2x8 is inherently slower than 2x16, and you can get 2x16 oem a die for $200 on ebay. so same price pretty much, and you get better performing dram at a given clock, and it's a die so i clocks forever
high radish
my only problem is that 2x8 is inherently slower than 2x16, and you can get 2x16...
Ram on this one was 1x16gb . That's why I got it tho
thin bolt
Tempted to buy that monitor since I wanna buy Forza 6
Buy me another
bold willow
Buy me another
Send me $200 and I’ll buy you the monitor but I keep Forza 6
You get 10% friend discount
So $180
thin bolt
Send me $200 and I’ll buy you the monitor but I keep Forza 6
New plan, you send me $200, and I keep the monitor, but you take forza, and you give me an extra 10% for the friends bonus
#expert #followformorefinancialtips #stayinschool
cursive sage
New plan, you send me $200, and I keep the monitor, but you take forza, and you ...
The key is for Microsoft store btw
obtuse igloo
No deals on the new Nova Omni?
lament ivy
PNY - GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Overclocked 16GB GDDR7 PCI Express 5.0 Graphics Card with Dual Fan - Black
Is $419.99 New like an insane steal or?
Or better to just grab a 3080ti used?
thin bolt
PNY - GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Overclocked 16GB GDDR7 PCI Express 5.0 Graphics Card w...
Thats average
Used 3080ti >
lament ivy
Thats average
Is it? According to my search you can’t find used ones below $450
thin bolt
Is it? According to my search you can’t find used ones below $450
They debuted at $429
It’s a $10 off msrp
A 9060xt has around the same power, and should be found cheaper
lament ivy
A 9060xt has around the same power, and should be found cheaper
It’s not cheaper and says 5060ti is 10% better
thin bolt
3080 ti will still be better @lament ivy
fallen idol
What’s so good about the monitor in #tech-deals
stoic crest
it's a good panel for a good price
though an oled can be had for $399 from gigabyte now
with a lot of peak brightness at that
1300 peak, 400 nits nominal
HDR400 true black certificated too
fair moon
What’s so good about the monitor in <#500102969702875156>
pretty good monitor for $200 and it's bundled with a Forza Horizon 6 key which is like $70 of value of you were gonna buy the game anyways, or probably $60 if you sell it to someone
fallen idol
its just straight ips right
fallen idol
ah okay was just wondering
I have a mini led but I was curious cause it had so many up votes lmao
I also can't stand 1440p at 27", so I think my next monitor will be a 4K 26.5-27"
stoic crest
4k 27" is rare
lament ingot
I feel like 1080p is optimal for 24", 1440p for 27", and 4k for 31.5" or 42"
uncut plume
4k 27 is actually fairly common now. I have a 28 and I like the extra sharpness over 1440p 27.
lament ingot
Interesting
fair moon
PPD > PPI
stoic crest
that's cheap for ram these days
$250 for 32gb ddr5 when the market average for new kits is $400
fair moon
$250 for 32gb ddr5 when the market average for new kits is $400
Even for 5600cl48?
bold willow
sodimm
fair moon
And that yeah
bold willow
still on pc part picker its cheaper than everything else
however mostly everything is cl46 or lower but idk how much of a difference that is
16.42ns vs 17.14ns
very smal
bold willow
Yeah but compared to like 6000cl30 it's way slower
$380
uncut plume
A lot of laptops don't even have xmp/expo available. C48 is kind of weird though, the standard jedec profile for 5600 is C46.
sick spade
Gotcha. Personally I grew up with Mac Retina screens so I like their sharp and clear images.
Going from FHD@24" to QHD@27" was a nice little bump but still no where near as good as Mac's high res displays.
I will probably go with 4k@27" or 28" when I upgrade my GPU in the future.
fair moon
The current iMac is 4.5k at 24" holy
I guess if you like sitting really close to your monitor that's an option
But yeah imo 1440p 27" is pretty solid at a normal viewing distance, and 4k 27" would be quite sharp
I think a bit above 60 PPD is considered retina-level
4k27in at a viewing distance of 2ft is 75PPD
sick spade
The current iMac is 4.5k at 24" holy
For me when I went from a 16" Retina Screen to a FHD 16" screen I thought it looked like pixel art. Took me a entire year to start getting used to the lower resolution.
bold willow
Whats the best deal for a console (or console-like) device?
Xbox Series X
PS5
Steam deck
Lenovo Legion Go S
Asus ROG Ally X
MSI Claw
-# or wait for steam machine
I would prefer a windows/linux based system since we have a huge steam library.
But if the xbox/ps5 offer way more performance for a similar price, id rather get them
Don't care much for integrated screen, care more about the performance plugged into a TV
4K60 maximum, or 1080p 60hz
i keep seeing handheld consoles go on sale
stoic crest
don't wait for the steam machine, it'll be so expensive
uncut plume
Do you care about the form factor much?
fair moon
AMD BC250
Idk how much they cost these days tho
Hmm, $135 OBO on ebay
Requires some tinkering but the end product is roughly equal to a Ryzen 3600 + rx6600 *with the caveat that it has 16gb of shared vram, so cpu performance is hurt a bit
bold willow
Requires some tinkering but the end product is roughly equal to a Ryzen 3600 + r...
Enough to run modern titles like Forza 6 at 1080p 60hz at least?
fair moon
With medium/low settings I'd imagine it would
This is a terrible bnechmark but better than none lol
The settings I highlighted in particular are too high and should be set to medium/low to stop it from hitting vram limits.
That would clean up a lot of the stutters I imagine
and lowering a few other settings slightly should bump average to 60+
oh it also looks like he might have the vram split set incorrectly, bozo
On the bc250 server i'm seeing a couple other people say 60fps is doable in fh6
reactivating the deactivated CUs without hardware nor firmare modding??
For reference the bc250 is a repurposed PS5 chip, with the cpu cut down to 6 cores and gpu cut to 24 CUs
but reactivating the CUs should push the gpu performance closer to a 6700
probably in between a 5700xt and 6700
it's rdna "1.5" so the upscaling isn't great
fair moon
Yeah it absolutely reqires tinkering like I mentioned before
bold willow
Is there something less DIY?
fair moon
Handheld, console, minipc, build your own
bold willow
Any simpler solutions than a BC-250?
I do have an RTX2060 available (literally sitting in a box doing nothing)
zenith lantern
Migu migu oowwwweeeooo
bold willow
@haughty mural what about a setup like this?
I have a 2TB hd, i have a 500 gb nvme (might be corrupt), i have a case and fans.
Just running this with bazzite & steam or just fully using steamOS
idk if u can find cheaper alternatives
kinda hate that the ram is almost half of it tho
lament ingot
Rip evga
fair moon
I do have an RTX2060 available (literally sitting in a box doing nothing)
Yeah I'd just make a lil build with that
bold willow
Yeah I'd just make a lil build with that
Any cheaper alternative to the parts i have selected (not worse, just better bang for buck)
fair moon
Any cheaper alternative to the parts i have selected (not worse, just better ban...
Ryzen 5500 is only $86. It's essentially a 3600 but since you're pairing it with a 2060 I think that would be fine.
There's also a semi modular Corsair cx750m for $60. The MSI is probably fine but the Corsair would have much more headroom and resale value
Stock cooler is also ok but personally a single tower thermalright is worth the $15ish in exchange for much quieter operation
late breach
Ryzen 5500 is only $86. It's essentially a 3600 but since you're pairing it with...
3600 but pcie gen 3
stoic crest
which works fine with a 2060 anyway
grave delta
first
willow niche
first
brittle lagoon
ITS A THING
willow niche
whete is the delete message button
willow niche
it doesnt show it
brittle lagoon
@grave delta shouldn't you do like 10sec slowmode in actual tech deals
humble crystal
Aye
grave delta
I guess, don't think people will abuse it, but they should combine their links into single posts anyway.
light bay
First
delicate jewel
On the topic of tech deals, I've been seeing xbox series x's available for msrp lately.
humble crystal
On the topic of tech deals, I've been seeing xbox series x's available for msrp ...
Good sites or sus?
civic sun
When did this become a thing
tepid otter
Heh
humble crystal
See you later
tepid otter
Tech deals had been dead since I left
humble crystal
When did this become a thing
At 0854
tepid otter
grave delta
@humble crystal Why get those when the arctic p12 5 pack is $30 shipped
humble crystal
<@!310497958238093322> Why get those when the arctic p12 5 pack is $30 shipped
didn't realized, my bad. Taking them down
delicate jewel
Good sites or sus?
Ebay
delicate jewel
why does it matter if they're new
humble crystal
Bots or fake accounts
I just checked those $500 Series X, eBay removed them
So, def fake accounts
delicate jewel
I'll have to check again if the seller I saw was new
grand orbit
Ah okay. Just have to make sure the seller isn't new and it should be okay
Scalpers would probs mark as new tho
Wait they msrp nvm
delicate jewel
So I was lied to?
grand orbit
Most likely
humble crystal
So I was lied to?
They do that a lot on sites like eBay and StockX since Covid started and scalpers took everything with bots
cerulean saffron
i have 6 game builds waiting for video cards... this is killing me, can only try to convince customers that a Ryzen 5700G is a good idea if anything its a place holder till i can get some video cards, i picked up some 3060's from china with there 90 dollars shipping , they work but get super hot dont trust them. so what is everybody else doing for there gamer customer base laptops ?
grand orbit
Some are doing old gpus like a 960/70 or something, something and some are finding gpus through retail
But I'd go 5600g over 5700g, 5700g just aint worth
cerulean saffron
i have some of them in stock most dont want built on GPU its a hard sale unless its a office pc
grand orbit
Look for 970s and 980s
cerulean saffron
my local bestbuy has not gotten any video cards in, iv been in the shuffle for 5 weeks and have not gotten picket yet. only 1 of them pc's are a rush Art student wanted a 30 series card but may go with a lower card and tell them ill still get them one later on when i can score one.
grand orbit
my local bestbuy has not gotten any video cards in, iv been in the shuffle for...
Check out the pins in #graphics-cards there's a buying guide thing
cerulean saffron
hmm will take a look thanks
civic sun
post deals in #tech-deals and discuss in here that way people can actually see the deals
grand orbit
@marsh sphinx 3600x has the biggest price drop cpu wise at 269 
marsh sphinx
bruh.
lilac prawn
The hell is this new channel lmao
spiral kelp
It's so people will still talk in #tech-deals but now the mods get to tell people to post in #tech-deals-discussion
torpid night
oooh new channel
old salmon
another one to mute
oak sentinel
another one to mute
you can just mute the entire server
humble crystal
oooh new channel
Yes indeed
oak sentinel
Check out the pins in <#500101029157797899> there's a buying guide thing
Self promotion in the wrong channel nerd
spiral kelp
old salmon
I only have the newegg studio and insider. I ignore the rest unless I want to look something other than that.
humble crystal
@twin socket you can upgrade the Lenovo Legion up to 32GB so buying another 8GB RAM will be cheap and easy to upgrade
twin socket
<@!322399773137305610> you can upgrade the Lenovo Legion up to 32GB so buying an...
makes sense, thanks
humble crystal
makes sense, thanks
You're welcome
marsh sphinx
What’s gonna be the first pin
willow niche
grand orbit
Self promotion in the wrong channel nerd
grand orbit
What’s gonna be the first pin
Probably this message 
willow niche
say sike
merry void
exotic barn
Oh wow this is a thing.
torpid night
I have made a petition that 69 and 420 are not funny anymore
marsh sphinx
When were they funny to begin with
spiral kelp
Forever
narrow rivet
whats a decent price on 1080ti used ?
light bay
500 or below for a decent one
brisk sphinx
<@!322399773137305610> you can upgrade the Lenovo Legion up to 32GB so buying an...
You talking about the desktops or laptops?
forest prairie
discussion? 👀
minor lava
yessir
forest prairie
would be neat if you could reply to a message in another channel
I guess you can just link it
slow sluice
Threads aren't working with moderation yet from what I've seen
pine dune
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torpid night
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minor lava
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opal flume
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exotic barn
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lofty moss
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oak sentinel
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void whale
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torn needle
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rough basalt
Ofc an nzxt fan says that
torpid night
what
misty orbit
https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-g1-120-gp-0850-x1-850w/p/N82E16817438133 looking for a 850w would this be fine, and anything i should look out for
grand orbit
https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-850-g1-120-gp-0850-x1-850w/p/N82E168174381...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf this would be a better choice
torn needle
I
misty orbit
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modula...
not better performance just price, is that right
grand orbit
not better performance just price, is that right
Better power supply too
grand orbit
in what way? 850 watt, 80+ gold cert, fully modular
80+ has nothing to do with the quality just the efficiency at certain loads btw
slow sluice
80+ gold is also a pretty wide efficiency target to hit
misty orbit
then how do i check quality
grand orbit
For example gigabyte pgm can blow up 
Just ask others like the 2 techies you're talking to rn or you can look at power supply reviews
slow sluice
Look at single rail vs multi rail, what components they use, reliability reports, how they handle power spikes, how the over power protection is (cough cough giagbyte)
For example, the GP-P850GM is a 850W 80+ gold fully modular PSU...
...but it has a bad habit of exploding
grand orbit
Can't seem to kick that bad habit xD
misty orbit
ok so for rails i found a corsair psu thats just 20 bucks more than the msi, however im checking this list and msi is multirail and the corsair is multi/single rail
slow sluice
It can't be both
misty orbit
well its switchable
misty orbit
Corsair | AXi (<=1500W / 1600W) - RMi - HXi [5] - HX Platinum [5] - Vengeance Silver
this lol?
misty orbit
which is good right
slow sluice
Are you gonna use more than one PSU?
misty orbit
probably not
slow sluice
Then you don't care about anything more than a single model
What components are you running?
misty orbit
so far i have the cpu and ram, which is a ryzen 7 5800x, 2 x 16 gb, 3600MHz corsair ram
slow sluice
What GPU will you get
misty orbit
lemme check
slow sluice
Also quick check, will you have more than five HDDs or fans?
misty orbit
Also quick check, will you have more than five HDDs or fans?
the fans im not sure but definetly not that many HDD's
this is the gpu im hoping for: 3060 ti nvidia 10 gb dram founders edition
misty orbit
how come you recommend this one
slow sluice
It's an extremely nice PSU that happens to have a really nice sale right now
misty orbit
what is the scaling for gpu upgrading?
or idk how to put it, but like wouldnt it better for a bigger watt ability in the long run
slow sluice
Could handle up to a 3080 with that CPU
misty orbit
mmm
slow sluice
Maybe even a 3080ti
misty orbit
why do people need like a 1250 watt one? is it for alot of HDD's
slow sluice
It's for extremely powerful or overclocked systems
slow sluice
Guys smh only post deals in <#500102969702875156> then come back here to discus...
I already posted it tho
spiral kelp
I'm kidding lol
misty orbit
whooosh
misty orbit
i might go with the Seasonic however it has about a third of the reviews as the EVGA and is rated 4 stars compared to EVGA's 5 star
slow sluice
Yeah, that doesn't matter
That evga is decent but lackluster
The seasonic is one of the top of the line, it has less reviews because less people buy it
willow niche
lol imagine looking at user reviews
slow sluice
Usually it's way too expensive for a 650W PSU, but it's currently more than 50% off with all of the promotions
misty orbit
i never got what the difference between multi and single rail one tho
slow sluice
Single rail can deliver all of its power to a single place
Multi rail splits the power it can deliver
spiral kelp
Secure the bag!
slow sluice
For example, there's a dell OEM PSU that's something like 500-600W, but because of the way that the rails are set up it can only get something like 150W to the GPU
willow niche
lol
slow sluice
For a single rail PSU, it is capable of delivering all of its power to a single component, so that 650W seasonic PSU could theoretically power a 3090 if the CPU isn't doing very much
slow sluice
No, most multi rail PSUs are much more balanced than that
Single rails just tend to be better on average
There are bad single rail PSUs ofc
(again, looking at you gigabyte)
misty orbit
then switchable would be crazy, cuz if ur gaming then the gpu will be chillin, then if ur doing something on premiere or blender than it can power all the components that is needs
willow niche
CWT GPU in fact is like the most parroted OEM rn and it's multi rail iirc
slow sluice
Switchable would be largely pointless, if the GPU is capable of of running in single rail there's not really any reason to not run it in single rail
misty orbit
yoo look a 850w seasonic for 90 dollla too https://www.newegg.com/GAMEMAX-RGB-0850-850W/p/1HU-02T9-00012?Item=9SIATPEE8H6140&cm_sp=SH-_-517230-_-8-_-1-_-9SIATPEE8H6140-_-seasonic+power+supply-_-power|supply-_-1
lean yoke
gamemax?
slow sluice
yoo look a 850w seasonic for 90 dollla too https://www.newegg.com/GAMEMAX-RGB-08...
That's not a very good PSU
lean yoke
that's not a seasonic either
slow sluice
Probably not an IED, but still not great
willow niche
yoo look a 850w seasonic for 90 dollla too https://www.newegg.com/GAMEMAX-RGB-08...
omg, 80+ gold and fully moduler!!!
slow sluice
With RGB lol
willow niche
lol
misty orbit
i was scanning videos on psu's, saw a linux tech tips one, saw that seasonic sponsored him clicked and got pranked
slow sluice
I love that it doesn't even give the brand name in the description
willow niche
i was scanning videos on psu's, saw a linux tech tips one, saw that seasonic spo...
linus kek tips
slow sluice
You know they're confident when they do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JmPUr-BeEM&t=1012s
Here's that gigabyte PSU I keep talking about btw
willow niche
@slow sluice expand your selection to some EVGA units may i suggest
misty orbit
yea linux talked about it
willow niche
linux is operating system
misty orbit
<@!590241344803569675> expand your selection to some EVGA units may i suggest
i was orginally looking at one
oak sentinel
So wait single rail>multi rail on average?
willow niche
i was orginally looking at one
lol
slow sluice
So wait single rail>multi rail on average?
Marginally, but there are much more important things
lean yoke
linus
willow niche
So wait single rail>multi rail on average?
ig but that information is useless anyway because no one should determine quality baded on that
grand orbit
<@!590241344803569675> expand your selection to some EVGA units may i suggest
Nothing wrong with evga just usually better psus for the price
willow niche
Nothing wrong with evga just usually better psus for the price
no there are some really bad units from evga
a lot of them
or just the sussy OTP
always sussy
grand orbit
no there are some really bad units from evga
Ik that i mean the decent ones lol
slow sluice
<@!590241344803569675> expand your selection to some EVGA units may i suggest
In general yes, I got a nice deal on a supernova, but right now there's not really anything that's competitive with that seasonic
willow niche
Ik that i mean the decent ones lol
thats true the decent ones are usually poorly priced
willow niche
In general yes, I got a nice deal on a supernova, but right now there's not real...
i mean your selection of psu's to make fun of
like the BBQ
slow sluice
Oh lol
oak sentinel
Marginally, but there are much more important things
so is a multi rail unit better for certain cases or single rail marginally better for it all?
slow sluice
I don't know of any disadvantages to single rail, there might be some weird edge case though
slow sluice
i mean your selection of psu's to make fun of
Cheap evga sure
grand orbit
N1
slow sluice
Problem is these were supposed to be decent PSUs from gigabyte
grand orbit
110$ psus for 750w or something
misty orbit
@slow sluice thanks btw
willow niche
Problem is these were supposed to be decent PSUs from gigabyte
well from what ive heard they were just supposed to be the AP-GM but cheaper
slow sluice
np
willow niche
well from what ive heard they were just supposed to be the AP-GM but cheaper
however they had no idea how to do that
light bay
I don't know of any disadvantages to single rail, there might be some weird edge...
Prolly price tbh
But no perf advantage for sure
slow sluice
True
willow niche
I dont think you all realize how important it is for me to get techie
marsh sphinx
I dont think you all realize how important it is for me to get techie
Why happens when you get techie
willow niche
I will die
Kidding
marsh sphinx
If it has happened before it can happen again
willow niche
alright i'll stop thiis is like the only cool tech server
marsh sphinx
thank you
long ore
Hi, I'd like to know if NewEgg by nay chance carry this 65" Flat Screen TV with 4K ULED Android Smart TV. 240v compatible and use type G electrical plug.
coarse moon
Great deal yep totally
light bay
if only that was 500 dollars cheaper it would actually be p decent lol
void whale
Great deal yep totally
wheres this at? lol like costco? trying to rip people off?
minor lava
Costco sucks
willow niche
oh I thought best buy
minor lava
Costco sucks
*for electronics
willow niche
costco based for bulk food
coarse moon
wheres this at? lol like costco? trying to rip people off?
Yea actually
coarse moon
That cooler tho lol
coarse moon
480gb ssd in a 2K system
exotic barn
I see lmao.
plain sphinx
Costco always gots tech
Wisconsin has ones around 1500, none id buy but still got em haha
grand orbit
if only that was 500 dollars cheaper it would actually be p decent lol
Look at the cooler on that poor 11700 tho
stoic crest
It's gonna run toasty
minor lava
._.
brisk sphinx
Thing is this is marketed as portable and that will fit in your pocket
jolly inlet
So will an average M.2 drive in an enclosure
slow sluice
So will a 1TB microSD card in an adapter
willow niche
so will an hdd with cargo pants
slow sluice
Pants fell off, please advise
spiral kelp
Lmaooo
willow niche
Pants fell off, please advise
bigger pants needed
slow sluice
Gotcha
light bay
yeah
willow niche
AHAHHBD HZ GSGSH D
marsh sphinx
Bbjoopplnnn
tame sentinel
iPhone 11 any good for 599?
jolly inlet
If you like iPhones, sure. There's very little difference between older and newer models these days.
marsh sphinx
iPhone 11 any good for 599?
Yeah
The 12 is like $800
if it’s from a service provider there’s probably some catch tho
jolly inlet
My next phone is going to be modular
jolly inlet
Right to repair is getting more traction so we'll see stuff like this more frequently https://www.onearmy.earth//project/phonebloks
marsh sphinx
woah
stoic crest
right to repair is gud
grave delta
Phoneblocks is a terrible idea lol, reminds me of the solar roadways meme.
jolly inlet
It's a concept, but it could become closer to reality with user serviceable parts becoming more common
Google worked on it for a bit but eventually scrapped it to focus more on software https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Project_Ara
ebon stratusBOT
fbi.matt#6969 has been warned
dark notch
Right to repair is getting more traction so we'll see stuff like this more frequ...
that seems terrible
why the hell would i want a modular phone
that makes it:
bigger
more expensive
oh and
waterproofness
jolly inlet
It also makes it so when something breaks or you need to upgrade you don't need to spend a whole $800 to replace and toss out the old one
jolly inlet
Also, it's a concept phone, not a final product
dark notch
throw it on concrete
and who said you need to buy a $800 phone?
there are very good $200 phones out there
that will browse the internet, watch youtube, use discord, and play a couple mobile games great
if thats what you need a phone to do
people dont buy a $800 phone to do basic needs, they buy it because it is a luxury product, people like having nice things
jolly inlet
You're arguing against a product that doesn't exist right now
dark notch
99% of people dont care about right to repair etc.
yes
im arguing against a concept
jolly inlet
Concepts also get changed dramatically before they hit production. Ever look at a concept car?
dark notch
there are things that should be repaired and things that shouldnt be
sure but some concepts are just wrong
jolly inlet
sure but some concepts are just wrong
Like this one
dark notch
im not a car person but sure, that looks dumb
like im all for having companies release schematics, or at least making them available at a reasonable cost
jolly inlet
As a concept, yes. A finished product may use some of the design ideas but won't look anywhere near that.
dark notch
and making parts available
well certain design elements i think suck.
and a modular phone is a bad design element
minor lava
modular phone could be a great idea if people knew more about tech
dark notch
if they scrap that part and make a regular phone with a nice screen, waterproofness, headphone jack, and made schematics and replacement parts (screen, back glass, battery, mainboard) available, then that would be great
like if you even think about a phone
the parts that get damage the most are:
screen
battery
back glass
how often do you have a defective storage or cpu or camera?
making a phone for the one in a hundred thousand yet compromising on the other 999 thousand makes no sense
but i digress
jolly inlet
how often do you have a defective storage or cpu or camera?
Often, if you like to modify firmware like I do
I almost bricked a couple phones lol
And did make one unable to connect to cell data
dark notch
jolly inlet
I'm only making 2 points here:
It's a concept
It's not for everyone
dark notch
if this company wants to make a product for the one in a hundred thousand, sure. But dont act all surprised when its a stupid price for bad hardware in the name of right to repare, like the other right to repair "projects"
fairphone and that laptop lol
jolly inlet
I never said anything about the price. I know it'll be higher.
But in the long run I might save some money by buying upgrades instead of new phones.
dark notch
will those upgrades be cheaper than a new phone tho
jolly inlet
"Might" being the operative word there. It's impossible to tell, because see point 1, it's a concept.
dark notch
sure. But judging by the other projects, doesnt seem like it will
theres a lot of really good cheap phones
one of my friends had a moto G6, upgraded to a moto g9
really likes it
its like $200 and has a better screen than my phone (which im sure you can guess 
)
loud sandal
Oh there's a chat
jolly inlet
Yep this exists now
spice wadi
<@419872005190451206>
Why was I tagged
loud sandal
Something from #tech-deals
spice wadi
What
dark notch
@warm thicket the DDR3 haswell EP chips are the coolest....
DDR3 ECC is so fkin cheap
its like $1/GB
marsh sphinx
@dark notch sorry for the late reply, yea it supports ddr3
dark notch
oh thats cool
marsh sphinx
All the OEM only haswell ep xeons support ddr3 aswell as ddr4
Yea that's why in conjunction with those Chinese x99 boards which are cheap as well as pretty decent, you can get a really killer workstation build for cheap
If I remember correctly, a stock 2678v3 with no turbo boost unlock was about on par with a 2700x
uneven void
Do you know any good boards that have dual sockets for them?
marsh sphinx
Besides "regular" c612 boards from servers and whatnot, there are some dual socket Chinese boards that work well
uneven void
:o nice, I always wanted to build a PC with more than 1 cpu lmao
marsh sphinx
Those server boards are super expensive though. Meanwhile the c612 boards on aliexpress hover around 150-200
Yea it's super cool to have a system like that
If you do go for a build with that cpu, make sure the board you get supports ddr3 (so you can take advantage of the cheaper price), and make sure to get 4 ram sticks so you can utilize the quad channel function of that cpu
You can DM me if you are actually interested in putting together one of these systems, I have plenty of experience with xeons from around this time, and I've put together a number of systems using these Chinese boards
I'm obsessed with the x79 and x99 platform lol
uneven void
Will do when I actually get the money for it lol
marsh sphinx
sounds good lol
the prices and best value CPU and platform might change over time though
for example that 2678v3 might go back up to 120
uneven void
Oh I see
spice wadi
Stop bullying me
forest prairie
okay
loud sandal
Stop bullying me
what LOL
this
i found it
its $70 off with code so price is like 270 something
🤷♂️
idk math
void whale
its CAD right?
loud sandal
Yea
torn needle
About 212usd
I guess it isnt terrible at that price for a 32” but i would get a 27” 1440 monitor over that
loud sandal
yeah 32" 1080 is like
Omg I didn't see that lol
marsh sphinx
There is a similar one with less specs for 2100 but I want the better specs for like 2500ish but it is at 2999 which is too much a jump
Me must know if this out of stock one will go on sale or something!
jolly inlet
That's not really something anyone here would know. Even the Newegg staff don't have anything to do with pricing.
marsh sphinx
Awww
jolly inlet
That looks like some baller specs though on that laptop, RAID 0 on the NVMe drives and everything
marsh sphinx
Cause I want to buy that product with a long warranty
It's actually perfect
But my budget is like 2500
A similar product is on sale, was hoping the better spec one would be too
Current laptop blows and I want to upgrade to that one soon :c
jolly inlet
It's out of stock everywhere I can find it, not likely to go on sale if they can't even keep it in stock to start with
I mean Amazon has it but it's scalped
marsh sphinx
What do you mean by scalped?
jolly inlet
They have it listed for more than the retail price
Like, here's the exact same model https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-Opti-Mechanical-Keyboard-G733QSA-XS99/dp/B08SJTP83P
They've got a similar one with a 1440p 165Hz screen for $4200
Closer to your budget is this one, with a 3070 instead https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-Opti-Mechanical-Keyboard-G733QS-XS98Q/dp/B09CYKXBBM?th=1
civic sun
ye a laptop that is 360hz and has a 3080 will likely not go on sale(at least a real sale) for a very long time, it is too high in demand
marsh sphinx
dang.. i could by a nice pickup truck for that money
jolly inlet
Personally I prefer to spend money on my PC a little at a time. Platform upgrade maybe once every 6 years or so.
To be honest, I spent more on my current PC setup than I spent buying my car, but I did buy it at government auction.
marsh sphinx
Personally I prefer to spend money on my PC a little at a time. Platform upgrade...
yea im the exact same when it comes to pc upgrades
marsh sphinx
Nooo, but there were some 3080 laptops on sale and some 3070s. Also a rebate or something for the oneI want would be nice. Just the 3k price tag is huge Q.Q
marsh sphinx
Is it possible to get notifications for a specific item?
humble crystal
You can set alerts if something is out of stock
So you will be notified once its back in stock
marsh sphinx
But not for an item on sale?
humble crystal
There is a price alert that you can set
marsh sphinx
You can also do a price alert on pcpartpicker if you want to look for other websites too
humble crystal
You can also do a price alert on pcpartpicker if you want to look for other webs...
This
zinc kiln
..... Oh wait yeah you are right. Two days ago it was more off, ok I'll change it
I bought that pre built then and I'm taking parts from it to build a different pc
marsh sphinx
Yea but that has to be a set price
willow niche
@west coral regarding your post; fair warning
that motherboard is not the greatest
I wouldn't try overclocking much
swap with:
14$ more
light bay
@dark notch that leadex iii 750 for $90 seems pretty meh imo
dark notch
how so? 
brittle lagoon
it's still good but if revo df is cheaper, revo df is cheaper.
light bay
it's still good but if revo df is cheaper, revo df is cheaper.
Yeah only thing I don't like about 750watt leadex iii is noise
It's pretty loud
While the 850 leadex iii is quite a bit quieter
willow niche
Just a kinda meh psu
its very good
only reason why I wouldn't get it is if something just as good or better is cheaper
light bay
only reason why I wouldn't get it is if something just as good or better is chea...
And maybe the fact it's loud as hell
But yeah
I mean like quality wise it's fine I just wouldn't want to sit next to a loud PSU all day
willow niche
buy earplugs, improve gAMING
willow niche
yes
dark notch
And maybe the fact it's loud as hell
is it nornally that loud? was not aware
granted i have no experiance with it, only with like 3-4 leadex 1 and a couple leadex plats
and a leadex 2
(G2 and G3)
1300 and 1600 G2 are leadex plat
iirc
dark notch
just "detuned"
brittle lagoon
who knows
dark notch
leadex 2 meh tbh
not as good as 1 (they tried to make it compact too much)
i think 3 is better iirc
brittle lagoon
leadex iii over leadex iirc
dark notch
for the 850 and 1000W G3 they shoulda just added another 10mm
willow niche
but protections on g3 are interesting
evga mometno
people with their seasonics and CWTs tripping ocp
brittle lagoon
180c otp moment
dark notch
bro
willow niche
bbq
brittle lagoon
willow niche
I'm an engineer
I have degree in electrical engeer?
dark notch
problem is its too smol need more caps
brittle lagoon
I have degree in electrical engeer?
I have degree in Celsius what do you mean
dark notch
rankine bro
willow niche
impressive.
brittle lagoon
I don't
brittle lagoon
huh
dark notch
brittle lagoon
g2 was neat
dark notch
g2 is my favorite series
brittle lagoon
although I still am reminded of some weird holdup time issues someone saw
dark notch
only problem was that if i turned on two 1000W+ units at the same time it's trip the breakers
had a friend run mining rigs
brittle lagoon
ofc it would
dark notch
had about 25 G2s
brittle lagoon
inrush current fun
dark notch
over 4 years
not a single one died
vs 2 GQ units out of like 15 and one antec HCP (out if 4 antecs)
brittle lagoon
oh fun
dark notch
ebon stratusBOT
fbi.matt#6969 has been warned
dark notch
i would help him sort thru psus
dark notch
and at the end of an afternoon he's let me pick one
brittle lagoon
and at the end of an afternoon he's let me pick one
just take the g2
brittle lagoon
mmm
brittle lagoon
noooo
willow niche
wait isnt hcgg just seasonic oem
brittle lagoon
hcp weird
willow niche
he needs it for his electrical bill
willow niche
oh
willow niche
I thought delta made fans
dark notch
close enuf 
brittle lagoon
mmm
willow niche
imagine not just sellig one psu and it being good
brittle lagoon
it's not segotep it's not good enough
brittle lagoon
hx gold?
dark notch
plat
brittle lagoon
neat
dark notch
2019 model not part of recall
brittle lagoon
oh yea flextronics makes axi
brittle lagoon
pretty cold take ngl
nah too many people shill ss
people usually go like super flower cwt seasonic best oems
willow niche
ofc
dark notch
someone buy me one of these
so i can take it apart
i wonder if its just the G+ with slightly changed parts
brittle lagoon
@dark notch go buy segotep and take it apart
willow niche
I don't really use reddit
good, good
brittle lagoon
lol
dark notch
binned power supplies when
brittle lagoon
I mean, a lot of things kinda do that
afaik like revo d.f. can hit all the plat requirements other than at 100%
brittle lagoon
(therefore cwt gpu in general might)
brittle lagoon
like the difference between plat and gold is so small
there are different requirements at different loads tho
willow niche
(therefore cwt gpu in general might)
no revo df supremacy becasue better fan and dust free
dark notch
yeah
willow niche
-1 dust +1 effeciency
brittle lagoon
lol
brittle lagoon
actually lemme check smth
dark notch
yeah
willow niche
/zlkjahfisudyfidsjfhskjfhksdfjhksdjfksjfhsd
dark notch
i mean
its on the edge
i think it was like it wasnt consistently platinum enough
50% of units hit plat
brittle lagoon
I love it too
dark notch
1300 and 1600 G2 is based on the leadex platinum platform
not sure about 1000
The OEM of this unit is Super Flower. The exact same platform is used by their new Platinum certified Leadex PSU. EVGA apparently chose to lower the efficiency in order to offer a lower price. The primary side uses a resonant converter to boost efficiency. Active components on the secondary side rectify the +12V rail that feeds two DC-DC converters which generate the minor rails. The design is in general very clean, and its heatsinks and the polymer caps that filter the +12V rail in the secondary side actually reminded us of Seasonic's Platinum units.
yep its also leadex plat
brittle lagoon
lol
dark notch
brittle lagoon
I mean
brittle lagoon
supposedly segotep gp-p is platimax df with worse caps
willow niche
who cares about effeciency rating give me segotep motherboard
brittle lagoon
lol
brittle lagoon
80+ plat too apparently
willow niche
leadex G2 was the first of the cheap, affordable, high quality 80+ gold psus
really?
brittle lagoon
g2 was more bae that I thought
dark notch
2013
willow niche
respet
dark notch
seems like it
i cant find any other 80+ gold psus that were affordable
850 G2 is $150
MSRP
brittle lagoon
mmm
dark notch
so like $100-130 on sale i'd assume
brittle lagoon
really good price for back then
dark notch
which is still a decent price today
willow niche
yea fr\
brittle lagoon
wasn't focus gx 750w 150$ msrp or smth
only con
brittle lagoon
lol
dark notch
oh boy another extra half watt
dark notch
its standby
willow niche
wasn't focus gx 750w 150$ msrp or smth
BUT SEASONIC JAPANESE CAPS 80+ GOLD FULLY MODULAR LINUOS TECH TIPS
brittle lagoon
it literally powers the LEDs on your mobo and thats it
argb wasn't even prevalent back then
dark notch
screw ATX12vo but we dont need all that stuff
brittle lagoon
you want 3.3vo?
willow niche
it literally powers the LEDs on your mobo and thats it
b-but my b550-f
dark notch
naw the negative voltage rails
brittle lagoon
oh lol
brittle lagoon
yea ok
dark notch
we dont need 4 3.3v rails
2 is enough
we're not in 2001, CPUs arent powered off 5V
3 is enough
we dont need -12v and -5v, and we can remove a ground since we removed a bunch of hot leads
imagine how much easier it is
brittle lagoon
prob
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dark notch
well thats cuz the +2
brittle lagoon
yes
brittle lagoon
BUT PEOPLE NEED THEIR ARGB
/s
and sata
well, sata power would be from psu but yea
dark notch
2 3.3V
2 5V
4 12V
1 on, 1 PG (whatever), 1 5VSB
then three grounds
hmm
maybe more ground
2 3.3V, 2 5V, 1 on, 1 PG, 1 5VSB, 5 ground
brittle lagoon
more gnd more 12v