tech-deals-discussion

[earnest storm]

that psu only has 2 8 pin cables

esp since hes considering buying used avoid it

[cursive sage]

I’m not knowledgeable on PSUs, thought it was good though

[earnest storm]

its ok

nothing amazing, and theres reasons to avoid

[cursive sage]

Could you explain why it’s a bad thing? I thought that the MSI one had all the cables

[earnest storm]

it only has 2 8 pin cables

any gpu that uses 3 8 pin cables will need to use a 12v to 8 pin

12v is bad

[cursive sage]

I still don’t get it

[earnest storm]

you will have to compromise and risk your gpu if you have a gpu with more than 2 8 pin connectors

[high radish]

You can use 2nd end of cable in this case tho (of course if it have one lol) 1cable for 1st connector, and another for 2nd and 3th . Nothing bad can happen since tdp on 9070xt is like 304W . You have extra 75W from mobo just in case tho

Not safe on power hungry cards like 3090 etc but it's safe with 9070

[earnest storm]

still, its no insane deal that deserves a compromise

[high radish]

Yeah of course. Just saying

[earnest storm]

mhm

[sonic grail]

Alright I'm back, time to research

[sonic grail]

If I get 9070 or 9070xt I'll probably trying to figure out how to undervolt also

[bold willow]

Any good deals on $800 prebuilt recently?

[uncut plume]

Not unless you're looking for an i5 and 5060.

[earnest storm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VBXNXR here

[earnest storm]

thats easy, just move some sliders in adrenaline

[bold willow]

I’ve seen some R5 8400F ones, would that be better than i5?

At least with AM5 it’s a better platform than 14th gen intel

[earnest storm]

8400f is like

essentially ewaste comapred to the rest of am5

[uncut plume]

Better potential upgrades. Whether it's actually better than a 14400f or 225f? Kind of but not really.

[earnest storm]

if it has a 8400f i dont have good hopes for the mobo

[uncut plume]

It's also gimped on lanes.

GPU will be stuck at x8

Gen 4 too.

[sonic grail]

I have a questionn

What is your opinion on these cpus?

[earnest storm]

what cpus

am5?

[earnest storm]

none are better value than this deal

[uncut plume]

Is that used?

[sonic grail]

Not sure tbh

Was thinking I could pair it with this

They said they build pcs for people

[earnest storm]

dont

youll waste money

[sonic grail]

Understood

[earnest storm]

just get the list i sent

[sonic grail]

Agh I was really trying to make my itx work

[earnest storm]

it can but youre gonna make some compromises

and a3 matx is small

[uncut plume]

No it isn't. It's just short.

[earnest storm]

25l is small...

[uncut plume]

It's basically the same footprint as a midtower.

[earnest storm]

its still small

[uncut plume]

Most people who care about itx care about desk space, not vertical space.

[earnest storm]

that doesnt make it not small

it makes it have a big footprint

[uncut plume]

What's your goal?

[sonic grail]

Wait do yall want to check the post selling the stuff too?

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/comments/1ppdtz8/usaca_h_msi_z790i_asus_z790i_asrock_z790i_asus/

I was thinking combining parts I can probably negotiate

[earnest storm]

still not better than the deal i sent

maybe the ram

[sonic grail]

I want to build a smaller pc like itx/matx

Kind of like a ps5 so it's easier to move around

[uncut plume]

Do you have a specific case you like?

[sonic grail]

Goal is probably velka 3, dan a4 sfx level but that's not possible because I want a 9070

So any small case that can fit 300~ gpu

[uncut plume]

I think a4 can fit a reasonably long 3 slot. I'd have to double check. Why impossible?

[sonic grail]

Oh it can? Also I think it was discontinued so it's quite pricey

[earnest storm]

just get the list i sent you

[uncut plume]

Lian li licensed it. I haven't checked in a while. Think it was like 150.

[earnest storm]

it will need more expensive other parts

youre gonna be making compromises for not that much smaller

[sonic grail]

Is just ssd and klevv ram ok?

[uncut plume]

Itx motherboard costs a bit more yeah and psus can be a lot more.

[earnest storm]

you also cant get the deal i sent

[sonic grail]

Yeah that's true the cpu and motherboard combo is really good value

[earnest storm]

i would just get the a3

youre making no compromises and still getting a smaller system

[sonic grail]

Ahh I was looking and saw Lian li is going to make a b4

That's like the perfect size wth

[earnest storm]

ye

but youll have to wait for that

[sonic grail]

Quok what do you think about the ncase m2?

I know it's more expensive but it fits everything right? Other than the cpu cooler I think

[uncut plume]

That's another one that has a lot of variable configs and you'd have to pay attention to what works together.

[earnest storm]

if youre going for small matx get the a3 matx

your budget will make sff hard unless you make compromises

[uncut plume]

If you don't like the a3 there are other cases in that layout. Jonsbo has a bunch like the d31 or z20.

[sonic grail]

Alright I give up I'll go either a3 matx or jonsbo d31 from the guy on reddit

[sonic grail]

What's your opinion on jonsbo d31? Do you think it's a good case?

I just want to buy more items from the guy to potentially get a bundle discount.

[uncut plume]

It's about the same as an a3 in layout but different styling. Not sure if it could fit a 360 like an a3 but I wouldn't put a 360 in an a3 anyway, it really messes up the PSU compatibility.

[hybrid void]

https://cooj.cc/products/cooj-sf3-8-9l-a4-structure-aluminum-alloy-itx-case that one is pretty small but can fit reasonable hardware

also you can always go with Formd (Ncase) T1 as a safe bet if the price is ok

ncase m2 is fine if you want to go with matx, it's way smaller then a3 and jonsbo d31

[sonic grail]

Wow cute case, I've bought all my parts already tho I'll keep this in mind for the future

Kind of crazy how my reaper can fit in that tho lol

[pallid geyser]

Hmm @thin bolt let us know if they cancel your order on pricing error

[hybrid void]

Completely forgot, there's also Jonsbo Z20, it's the size of CM NR200 but still can fit matx, 240 aio and ATX psu, and slightly bigger D32

[hybrid stone]

And the new Gamdias Athena is in that same class

[hybrid void]

Not even close, it's like 2.5x Z20 and 2x D32 in volume

[hybrid stone]

It’s similar to the A3 and D32 - not the Z20 for sure. Specifically in exterior dimensions.

No hands on time yet but I have one coming soon.

Any of those class cases though, while cool are kind of pointless because you are only saving on height compared to a mid tower. Footprint is the same.

Can work for some folks but not meaningful if it’s going on a desk

[hybrid void]

D32 and A3 is like 25l and that thing is 45l, it's not only higher, but longer and wider

also they can be mounted vertically and get a smaller footprint, there's plenty projects like this https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/1dz1vtf/lian_li_dan_a3_case_tower_mod_3d_printed_stand/

[hybrid stone]

I think you are looking at old Athena data. Feel free to double check this but I know the Athena measurements are right

Case size comparison (inches / liters)

DAN A3
• 17.4 × 9.7 × 7.9 in
• ~21.9 L

Gamdias Athena (446 × 235 × 347 mm model)
• 17.6 × 9.3 × 13.7 in
• ~36.4 L

Jonsbo Z20
• 14.6 × 7.3 × 11.6 in
• ~20.3 L

Jonsbo D32
• 16.2 × 8.0 × 15.6 in
• ~32.9 L

Volume (small → large):
Z20 → DAN A3 → D32 → Athena

[hybrid void]

https://www.gamdias.com/en/component/case?series=ATHENA

seems like there's plenty of cases named Athena, my guess is you are talking about M4M

also A3 and D32 are pretty close in dimensions and they both are somewhere around 25-26l mark

[hybrid stone]

Yeah my bad. Check this out on @Newegg:Gamdias ATHENA M4M WOOD, with ATX 3.1 850W 80+ GOLD PSU 5yr warranty, mini ITX, mATX, micro mesh small form factor PC case, 3 PWM fans (Airflow up to 57.56 CFM), fits: 395mm GPU and 360mm radiators. https://www.newegg.com/gamdias-technology-atx-mini-tower-cases-computer-cases-atx-form-black/p/2AM-00BP-00069?Item=9SIAJGNKNC0440&tpk=1

[vague pine]

Epic is giving away 1 month free Nitro if you haven't had nitro in the past 12 months. Will auto-renew if you don't cancel subscription

[lament ingot]

Did you get hacked

That seems fishy

I smell fish

[vague pine]

bro doesnt want to open the epic games store 💀

[lament ingot]

I prefer stream🗿

Steam

Actually just uninstalled fort lol

[delicate lake]

Kinda based

Epic do kinda suck tho

[lavish willow]

Hhhm..m.m

[uncut plume]

Not caring about nitro, not wanting to open egs, not wanting to have to remember to cancel something. All good things to believe in.

[bold willow]

I have epic games for the free games that I never play

I just like building my library

Although the jackbox party pack was nice and I might use that

[stoic crest]

i did play death stranding thru egs

since epic was giving the game away

respectfully, i don't get the negativity towards the epic game store, it's just another game store that happens to be run by a manchild ceo

and we don't know steam's future when gabe dies as some food for thought

[cursive sage]

On the other hand I get it

Steam has better customer support, refund policies

An entire community built around it instead of just a shop

[stoic crest]

those are valid reasons to like steam, i agree

though i don't see any harm in merely claiming free games and using the game store to play some of the games i want that they give away for free at least once or twice in a year

granted it is my personal view, and i respect others' views as well

[cursive sage]

I also don't like using more than one launcher to play the games I would like to play

[stoic crest]

if it's free, i won't have to refund honestly

[cursive sage]

And since Steam has the best launcher out of all of them, well

[stoic crest]

yeah

i can see that

having two or more launchers gets annoying over time, speaking from personal experience

[bold willow]

Oooo Bioshock

Another game I will impulse buy but never play

I keep buying these game bundles and never playing them lol

[civic sun]

Personally I just hate the ui for egs. Also it’s storage and game save management is abysmal compared to steam

The amount of time I’ve wasted reinstalling games that I already have downloaded

[thin bolt]

It doesn’t need any mods

They’re also not super duper long games

[bold willow]

What game should I get from the steam sale?

Detroit Become Human $3.99
Stardew Valley $8.99
The Witcher 3 $3.99 (or $8.00 for 1,2,3)
Dead Island 2 $4.99
Overcooked $1.69
Assassin's Creed Valhalla $5.99

Possibly looking for a good campaign or a nice replacement for minecraft as my go-to relaxing game.

[uncut plume]

Witcher 3 is the best game there by far.

Same price on gog and drm free though.

[bold willow]

gog means i own the game right?

lol

[delicate lake]

I think it is ok to torrent ubisoft games

if it is that cheap then might as well get the free one

just know that valhalla is kinda janky and also takes a long time to finish

Detroit is a good game, worth buying for sure

[bold willow]

meh i like building my steam library lol

kinda thinking of stardew but idk if its as good as its said to be

[cursive sage]

Do you have Control?

If you aren't interested, I'd say Witcher 3 is pretty good

I would definitely pay for Witcher 3 complete edition over the Witcher 1,2,3 bundle

[bold willow]

ok its like the same price

[cursive sage]

Witcher 1 you get for free by making a GOG account

Witcher 2 you can probably buy it separate

[thin bolt]

Bioshock 1, 2, infinite

[bold willow]

so bioshock 1,2,inf vs witcher 3 complete edition

what is better

[fair moon]

I mean it comes down to your personal preferences

Personally, Titanfall 2 >>>

[bold willow]

Only campaign I ever played entirely is the Wolfenstein franchise

[cursive sage]

What games do you normally play?

[thin bolt]

Bioshock

Witcher is on sale a lot

[bold willow]

Minecraft and SCP: CB rn

usually i play fps games like valorant > overwatch 2 > marvel rivals

but i kinda want something more casual

i dont wanna get mad at teammates anymore

[thin bolt]

Bioshock

[delicate lake]

is drg on sale

[bold willow]

?

titanfall 2 also looks pretty good

[uncut plume]

You shouldn't have any trouble finishing that campaign. It's like 5 hours long.

[delicate lake]

deep rock galactic

goated

[bold willow]

already have it lol

rock n stone

[cursive sage]

I would have suggested Half-Life but it looks like you have it but barely touched them

[bold willow]

bros investigating my steam account

[cursive sage]

well yeah, duh

just so we know what you already have and don't have, and what you play

[bold willow]

huge steam account but only played like 10% of it

most of the time its impulse buying bundles

[cursive sage]

when you play games, do you pick a hard difficulty and focus on gameplay?

or do you care at all about story

[delicate lake]

baste

[bold willow]

i actually dont like campaigns where its constantly running and gunning npcs

i like story

[cursive sage]

okay but a story to go alongside running and gunning

[bold willow]

i hate parts where its constantly redoing a stage of pve

i guess i liked wolfenstein a bit since it wasnt purely running and gunning but some missions were stealth based and u might have never even shot a person

i like story

wolfenstein was good story imo

[cursive sage]

i agree

only did first order though

[bold willow]

no

i did 3 of them

new blood, first order, i forgot the other

[cursive sage]

the new colossus

[bold willow]

might not have been on the same steam account

10 hours The New Colossus
13 hours The New Order

nvm i guess i did only 2 of them

old blood doesnt seem my style

[cursive sage]

If you liked Wolfenstein you might like Halo

the campaigns

[bold willow]

id be down, they redoing halo 1 right?

[cursive sage]

yeah but that comes out in 2026

[thin bolt]

BIOSHOCK

[bold willow]

master chief collection is $10

[delicate lake]

mid cash grab, mcc is better

[bold willow]

only ever played halo infinite

[cursive sage]

yeah MCC is good

and so is bioshock but never completed it

[thin bolt]

BIOSHOCK IS KNOWN FOR ITS STORY

so is mass effect but we all know how @cursive sage feels about it

[cursive sage]

what do you think i feel about it

[thin bolt]

You feel nothing
Because you haven’t played it

[cursive sage]

okay true

thats accurate

[thin bolt]

But buy Bioshock @bold willow

[bold willow]

steam cart rn, maybe ill buy everything lol

[thin bolt]

Do it

[cursive sage]

holy hell thats a lot

[bold willow]

about a year of games for $30

[thin bolt]

[cursive sage]

i thought this was a pick one situation

[bold willow]

i thought so too

but $30 isnt too bad for some of the biggest titles ever

[thin bolt]

Play bioshock first

[cursive sage]

personal preference going but

I don't like Titanfall 2

[thin bolt]

It’s an acquired game

[bold willow]

I enjoyed destiny 2 a lil, is it similar?

[cursive sage]

I like the campaign but I feel its too short

[thin bolt]

I only like the multiplayer

[cursive sage]

And the MP is like ehh

not there in playercounts

[thin bolt]

Campaign was too short

[bold willow]

i dont want a multiplayer fps rn

i get enough of that

tired of it honestly

[cursive sage]

If it were up to me I would swap Titanfall with Mass Effect or Control

[bold willow]

i dont enjoy it, its more like an addiction than relaxing.

[bold willow]

which one?

[cursive sage]

oh, which one uhh

[bold willow]

Andromeda Deluxe is $4, Legendary edition is $6

[cursive sage]

Mass Effect LE

definitely

I forgot Andromeda was there for a second

[bold willow]

newest one

[cursive sage]

yeah

you get an easy 100 hours of content (because it's a remaster of 1-3)

[delicate lake]

[thin bolt]

Plus

There are also like

Thousands of mods for ME

[cursive sage]

I thought you were going to bring up the story and how the choices you make could change it

[bold willow]

final cart?

oh shoot didnt mean to show that

lol

but yeah halo, bioshock, witcher, ME LE

i think i wanna do halo first

$40 for like 10 titles and new games be costing $60 for one

[delicate lake]

dawg

like

is the aim trainer even good

[bold willow]

its less bloatware compared to aim trainer, which is overrated.

[cursive sage]

uhm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314237259284877342/1433545242891649185/togif.gif

[delicate lake]

i dont like the aimlabs terms of service

why cant i train without getting farmed

[bold willow]

the sequel, catgirl aim trainer isnt as good imo

[delicate lake]

[cursive sage]

I feel like if you posted this to Reddit, you could farm karma

your cart

[cursive sage]

oh hell nah

[bold willow]

this is crazy bro

$14 for 19 OF THEM! what a steal

[delicate lake]

aimbeast looks good

[bold willow]

yeah i am lacking on karma rn, but also i use my reddit for school stuff so id rather not have my diploma be linked to anime feet aim traner.

[delicate lake]

might lowkey buy it

[bold willow]

I played comp fps games my entire life and never touched an aim trainer.

Probably why i suck at everything that needs aim

[delicate lake]

i dont even know if i will like

[bold willow]

Marvel rivals cloak is my goat

[delicate lake]

[stoic crest]

furry aim trainer is wild

[delicate lake]

my aim is pretty decent but its tracking something for a while that i am not very good at

especially something moving around a lot

i can only do it for a short time

[stoic crest]

or rather any kinda trainer that has a certain implication

[delicate lake]

which is ok for the most part because i typically am not in scenarios where i have to track for a period of time

[bold willow]

my mains were Rook (R6S), Killjoy (Valorant), Juno (OW2), and now Cloak (MR)

so literally played anything that didnt depend on aim

support character

[delicate lake]

gooning aim trainer

[bold willow]

if your gonna train, why would you wanna aim at lifeless blobs?

add some personality to your aim trainer.

[delicate lake]

what if it is a cheat code to aim success

eyes lock on to the ooga booga

[bold willow]

All the pros I know use Gooning aim trainer with the sexy maids dlc

[delicate lake]

grok is this true

[bold willow]

can i post the aim trainer deal in tech deals or will i lose my newegg citizenship

i wonder if buildapcsales is chill like that

[stoic crest]

i guess it's effective lmao

give your brain something it likes and lock in

[bold willow]

i wish it was co-op

[cursive sage]

Could the price of PSUs go up in 2026? I saw some pretty good PSU deals earlier

Not sure if I necessarily need a new one or not

[uncut plume]

When no one is wanting to buy ram/storage/maybe gpus for a new pc the other stuff is more likely to go down than up.

[cursive sage]

That's cool

I'm hoping my 3060Ti can last me until this whole thing ends

[mortal blaze]

@high radish sir

I see this deal in another site but don't have RAM like another's

[Bundle] ASUS TUF GAMING B850M-E WIFI + Team Group 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR5 6000 CL 38 - $169.99

Can u lookin if it's real? Pls

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b850m-e-wifi-micro-atx-motherboard-amd-b850-am5/p/N82E16813119758

[high radish]

yeah it was oos , it came back in stock but without ram

[fair moon]

8gb ddr5 is dookie anyways

[uncut plume]

Better than no ram.

[delicate lake]

Tru…

[mortal blaze]

uh ok!

if u know about somethin in stock combo w/ DDR5 ram tell me pls

😄

[uncut plume]

You can search 'memory combo' on newegg and it'll show you the ones they have. They go in and out of stock and the better they are the faster they sell out.

[mortal blaze]

a less 200 bucks

[fringe olive]

Is 229 USD for 32 gb CL36 5600 bad or good for the current market?

[fair moon]

Good I think

[wispy stream]

pretty good just make sure it's a good reputable brand

[fringe olive]

It is kingston

[earnest storm]

brand rly doesnt matter, just avoid corsair for lower speeds and youre fine

[thin bolt]

[gusty willow]

Ive come to the conclusion avoid anything corsair thats not ram or a psu

[earnest storm]

even corsair ram has issues

[gusty willow]

i personally havent had a problem with it but everything else has eitheir come in broke or malfunction within a month

got a keyboard that would double tap keys after a month replaced samething in a month

[earnest storm]

well im not talking about that, corsair ram can have mismatched ICs, and they LOVE to get the abs cheapest IC for the speeds they advertise

so if you plan on doing non expo, or getting cheap ram then manual oc, avoid corsair at all costs

[gusty willow]

i use teamgroup no problems here

[earnest storm]

meh brand really doesnt matter

for good things, but for bad things it does

[gusty willow]

personally i just went with what got the job done for the cheapest just happend to be teamgroup

[uncut plume]

I'm using team too. Was $73 at the time for a 2x16 hynix kit with no xmp/expo profiles on it and it had lp heat spreaders. Pretty much exactly what I wanted.

[delicate lake]

I like my t create

[wispy stream]

Why Corsair?

[earnest storm]

Issues, they’re fine as long as they’re the cheapest decent ram speed you can find, otherwise it’s not gonna be great

[earnest storm]

@high radish what a typo

[high radish]

typical newegg lol

no black kit with m-atx board this time . only this one and rog b850 have free ram

[opal flume]

Man I knew things were rough but I didn't know 2gb dimms were making a comeback

[delicate lake]

[lament ingot]

16gb ram with ThreadRipper 💀 💀 💀

[zenith lantern]

[hybrid stone]

Edit: Man I have this 48GB kit of DDR5 7600 CL36 but I only build AMD rigs. No use for it.

[sonic grail]

In this economy?

😭

[hybrid stone]

Hit me up in you’re interested. Fair pricing.

[sonic grail]

Ahh I appreciate you but I got my ram already. I'll ask my friend if they need it but I think 48GB might be too much for her.

[thin bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-3-rule-gif-13145477849228074323

[hybrid stone]

Sorry! Will review now lol

[thin bolt]

It’s all g

Just try to keep it in dms

If someone mentions they have something and you want it, that’s fine

You’d then move to dms

[sonic grail]

Sorry Mr. Roomba

[hybrid stone]

Edited 😂 happy holidays y’all

[thin bolt]

It’s okay

[sonic grail]

Woohoo almost Christmas

[lament ingot]

What's rule 3?

Do we have rules?

[wispy stream]

3. No sweepstakes/ giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

[lament ingot]

Oh right

[wispy stream]

lmao

[lament ingot]

Guess it worked

[mortal blaze]

jjjjjj

[delicate lake]

Fr

[bold willow]

bro i needa wallet

every time i pull this thing outta my pocket all my cards fall out

[fair moon]

These are my favorite minimalist/slim wallet

https://www.threadwallets.com/collections/elastic-wallets

[lament ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[bold willow]

Welp i've got a long list to go through now

I think imma start with Halo

[cursive sage]

Start with Halo CE

BTW if you press Tab in Halo CE and Halo 2 you can switch from classic and remastered graphics

I did Classic but do what you want

[thin bolt]

Don’t install the original Bioshocks
They’re pointless

[bold willow]

Only infinity?

[opal flume]

Roomba means don't install 1 and 2, install 1 remastered and 2 remastered

The first and second games' remasters are just the og games and dlcs with updated graphics. Though 2's remaster didn't include multiplayer mode iirc

[lament ingot]

Yeah start with ce

Ce, 2, 3, odst, reach, 4

[thin bolt]

@bold willow

[bold willow]

Is the halo infinite campaign worth it?

[torpid night]

Ehhh

It's a weird Halo

[lament ingot]

Haven't played yet

[bold willow]

Btw I’m moving my pc into a new case and might need to replace the thermal paste, is this good? https://a.co/d/2AmGBzp

[thin bolt]

I use their cpu fan with wife’s pc. Not bad. Not sure about their paste though. Havent used it yet.

[fallen idol]

From my experience there is very little difference between pastes

[bold willow]

So it’s worth it cause it’s $3

The paste I used I mixed with alcohol so I could actually spread it onto the cpu

It was super dry

So I think any paste would be better

[fallen idol]

You mixed paste with alcohol?

[thin bolt]

That’s not a good idea

[thin bolt]

Go for it

Just don’t mix it this time

[cursive sage]

The campaign is strange but enjoyable

I wouldn’t get it unless it’s cheap

it’s the sixth halo game, because the fifth halo game is not on Steam just so you know

[bold willow]

CPU has a drinking problem

[cursive sage]

Why were a bunch of messages deleted from here wow

I just reloaded this channel after my internet got back and saw a bunch of messages disappear

[high radish]

basically b550 board ( lowend) and 32gb ddr4 ram for 175$ . for current market not bad at all

[earnest storm]

2x8

175$ for am4 where you can get less for am5

[high radish]

There's 2 kits . One with combo and another gift with mobo . Headline is little confusing I guess

[earnest storm]

Oh

Isn’t am4 unstable on 4 sticks?

[high radish]

ddr4 is alright with 4 sticks . But this mobo is really low-end tho. Only suits to r5 5600 I guess

[earnest storm]

Ig its ok

Tbh would prefer one of the am5 combo for cheaper

Unless ram is super needed

[high radish]

Yeah. For ram , Newegg and mc bundles are best bet

[earnest storm]

On mc put ram back in bundles?

[high radish]

I saw few recently I think . Did they not bundling with Rams anymore?

[earnest storm]

They stopped for a while

yeah they totally added it back

[high radish]

Yeah I just checked

They have this at least

[earnest storm]

That’s good wth

Oh dude if you get a goated manager you can totally ask for that bundle with the cpu/mobo at the bundle discount

[high radish]

Pick your poison I guess. Mobo + ram from newegg and cpu alone or cpu + ram from MC and mobo alone lol

[earnest storm]

or you get lucky with the manager

i got so lucky with mine, he totally let me return my 9700x bundle for what i bought it at vs the price it went down to

[high radish]

Or you don't have MC around so only chance is newegg

[delicate lake]

Oh cool they are still doing that

I thought it went away ngl

[fair moon]

That's typically how returns work lol. You get back what you paid

[earnest storm]

it was an exchange, my 9700x bundle for a 7800x3d bundle so

[uncut plume]

MC dropped the ram from bundles for a while. Then they added it back as an option for $280-300, now they're doing that for $200 above what the ramless bundles were. And some of the lower spec bundles are down to single stick again, it's not +$55 for the second one anymore though. Not sure what they'd do if you wanted an r5 combo with two sticks. The single x16 is priced at $175 individually. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/bundle-and-save.aspx

[earnest storm]

those 1 stick deals might be hard avoids

[fair moon]

Single channel isn't as bad for ddr5 as it is ddr4

So you could probably get by with 1x16

[hybrid stone]

They just don’t make any sense compared to just buying the CPU + 32GB + Open box board

16GB bundles are indeed dead IMO to include the 7600X3D, sadly.

[delicate lake]

And if you can get that $200 ram deal

200 for 7600x3d, 200 for the ram, open box board

Goes hard

[hybrid stone]

exactly. But then you are in that 100$ ladder. +100$ gets you a 7800X3D, +100 to 9800X3D lol. But truth be told the 70TI does fantastic with the 7600X3D, as does the 5080 with the 7800X3D

[delicate lake]

Best value would be 78x3d

76 still good if u dont wanna spend more

[trim pier]

I impulse bought a 6000 cl30 off of woot for like $50 back in October, regretted it after a day or two, now I don’t lmao

Still no ddr5 mobo though, they still cost like a 7600x3d which is insane 😪

[delicate lake]

What

[stoic crest]

mobos aren't that expensive

at least ones that do the job and have enough i/o and ssd slots

[high radish]

Mobo prices going down recently as well . Even highend mobos can be found under 300 . 150-200$ getting you decent mobo currently

Ebay floating with mobos bacause newegg bundles again

[delicate lake]

Correct

There is one from msi for 150

[trim pier]

The AMD motherboard market is great

just trying to find a decent z790 that isn't 180-200+ has always been a struggle

[uncut plume]

If you mean the msi b850 pro-s that's one of the only b850s that is limited to a gen 4 gpu slot.

[fallen idol]

check open box

[trim pier]

My local microcenter just received a z790 tuf plus for $110 🙏

[tawdry dragon]

I was trying to find a z690/z790 DDR5 motherboard that was matx (impossible)

[bold willow]

if i already have 3 monitors should i buy a fourth for no reason

i got that $40 1080p 24" 180hz monitor deal a while ago

then i bought an oled

[lament ivy]

https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-dark-rock-5-120mm-intel-lga-1700-1200-1150-1151-1155-amd-socket-am5-am4/p/N82E16835269007?Item=N82E16835269007
anything special?

https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-120mm-intel-lga-1700-1200-1151-1150-1155-1156-amd-am5-am4/p/N82E16835103364?Item=N82E16835103364
or this?

[balmy lake]

If you’re going to spend that much, i’d go thermalright phantom spirit with an extra heat pipe and twin fan.

https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-000Y-000K7

of course it all really depends on your CPU and how much heat you’re needing to dissipate. The $29 one you posted is not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

Well, not all depending on dissipation. It also depends on how much space is available and how tall your RAM stick(s) are.

[lament ivy]

9800x3d, 9070xt, x870E-P, 1000w gold

[lament ivy]

Deciding on a case/fans/plugs if needed

[earnest storm]

70$ for an air cooler? Just spend 50 on an aio

[high radish]

https://a.co/d/aVxr82f just like this one

[earnest storm]

Yeah

[lament ivy]

better option? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7Q3F42D?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[uncut plume]

They're about the same. I'd just pick whichever you think looks best.

[kindred portal]

putted out bunch of

mouse

[bold willow]

Hole in one!

[bold willow]

My thermal grease arrived, it tastes awful.

[delicate lake]

fr

[pallid geyser]

I get the krabby patty flavored one

https://tenor.com/view/krabby-omondays-krusty-krab-gender-krabby-patty-spongebob-gif-20450730

[hybrid stone]

Just a heads up - my local MC is already OOS on the Crucial Ram they just switched to with their bundles, so you can only get the bundles if you pay the 50$ for the G.Skill kit. If you see something you like, snag it quick

[lament ingot]

Rip

[gilded zodiac]

i had to double read this to make sure i read it correctly

[lament ivy]

Completing a decent new build:
9800x3d, 9070xt, x870E-P, 1000w gold
Good RAM. Will be used for gaming mostly MMOs and some heavy newer games to try since my current 1080 rig is like 12 years old and I’m a little behind.
Could anyone suggest to be a decent priced fast 1TB storage? I spent a little extra on every piece because it’s been so long, want to make sure I get something that will compliment the build vs cheaping out to save $40.
I have always used Samsung evo/pro m.2 when I built my wife her gaming rig like 6 years ago, but I’m sure times have changed. Open to other ideas.

[brittle lagoon]

I'd recommend 2tb minimum if it's the only drive, funnily enough, 980 pro is probably the best priced option considering everything cheaper had their prices raised or is out of stock rn

[kindred portal]

what's the diffrence between 980 and 990 pro ?

[brittle lagoon]

Different controller and nand, 990 pro also has higher rated write

[lament ivy]

Understood, I’m not in a major rush because I still have my old computer. Just don’t want to rush and overspend with the way storage prices are now. I also have a microcenter 30min away of that helps at all.

[brittle lagoon]

Microcenter does tend to have nice deals, Inland performance plus would be their in house equivalent that you can look out for

But in general there are a ton of equivalent drives, too many to list, better to check each one that's available to you

[lament ivy]

Yeah, it’s more just finding a decent deal especially if I’m going to go 2tb and haven’t seen anyone link a good hard drive in tech deals

Also not sure between 990 pro and 9100 pro at similar prices

[brittle lagoon]

990 pro is overpriced imo, and 9100 pro is cool but generally way overkill

Unless you have a specific task that might make use of it

[lament ivy]

Ah sorry you said 980 pro. Seems like older tech on a new comp? That’s why I was considering 1TB 980 pro for now then maybe get 1 or 2TB when storage prices drop in a year or two if I need it

It’s just gaming, I generally uninstall if I’m not playing the game so prob enough

[mortal blaze]

any deal board and ddr5 combo? jeje pls

[brittle lagoon]

It's a bit older tech, but in reality for gaming we still don't really take advantage of anything faster than gen 3 drives, direct storage implementation has been just a year away for like 4 years now at this point

Relatively recent comparisons for reference:
https://www.techspot.com/article/3023-ssd-gaming-comparison-load-times/

With ssd prices going up recently with the AI bubble, I don't really think it's a good idea to go with anything better than a good gen 4 drive, because that will be enough even if direct storage comes around, and it's already overkill for what we can do right now

[brittle lagoon]

Also, the reason for suggestion 980 pro at time of writing was because it was $180 for 2tb, that seems to have sold through, so I would probably go for mp600 elite at $205 for 2tb right now, or roll the dice on nv7000-t at $177 for 2tb and hope you get the better hardware variant

[delicate lake]

The gamestop nvme went up in price

170 now

It was 150 for a while

[brittle lagoon]

No idea if they've changed the hardware or what variants there are for that so I wouldn't risk it tbh

Nv7000-t at least you know you're rolling the dice on getting 232l ymtc tlc or qlc with the same controller with 2tb

[lament ivy]

Yeah see that’s the issue I’m having. Was hoping to get a link (or DM if preferred) of the actual good variant with where these prices are coming from if possible? I went to look, but also had a hard time deciphering though all the variants and didn’t want to mess up on basically my last piece

[brittle lagoon]

Oh yea I usually assume people are already using pcpp, it gets you prices from most storefronts for new parts
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nqrxr/corsair-mp600-elite-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-cssd-f2000gbmp600enh
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mL7scf/netac-nv7000-t-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-nt01nv7000t-2t0-e4x

[lament ivy]

I appreciate it and should have been clearer. I was mainly referring to the 980/990 pro over the other ones you suggested. The comparisons on these are a bit over my head, but if I don’t mind waiting prob a week or so for stock to replenish somewhere I assume that is just better regardless of the small $50 difference or so? This is a long term rig and again not trying to rush or scimp on that last piece

[earnest storm]

its nothing worth 50$ over

[brittle lagoon]

Mp600 elite is comparable to 990 pro, at the end of the day, I think it's best to refer to in-depth reviews that include data for both for specific performance in specific applications:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-mp600-elite-2-tb/

Oh and fyi if you do end up getting 980 pro/990 pro, update the firmware right away once you get it, there was a bug in early firmware for both that'll degrade the drive much faster than normal

[lament ivy]

Then what would you go for, if I wasn’t in a rush and trying to future proof as much as I can long term when I likely won’t be switching parts out

[earnest storm]

honestly, those are both pretty expensive

https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/hard-drives-ssds/external-hard-drive/products/gamestop-nvme-ssd-card-2tb-with-heatsink-for-playstation-5/394133.html?utm_source=rakutenls&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_content=PCPartPicker&utm_campaign=10&utm_id=2558510&utm_kxconfid=tebx5rmj3&cid=afl_10000087&affID=77777&sourceID=8BacdVP0GFs-HuUAvckoO8OYiADpopn1aQ&ranMID=24348&ranEAID=8BacdVP0GFs&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-HuUAvckoO8OYiADpopn1aQ id get the gamestop ssd

[brittle lagoon]

I don't like the prices on any drives rn but yea

I don't trust knowing what hardware is on the GameStop drive so I would rather gamble on nv7000-t instead

[earnest storm]

it has DRAM iirc

its a good drive

[brittle lagoon]

3 years ago one variant had map1602a

No real info since

[lament ivy]

Yeah, no gambling on this one for me 😅

[earnest storm]

its a good drive

[lament ivy]

Like I’m spending around 2k on this pc, I don’t care about $50 for piece of mind haha

[earnest storm]

theres spending better for better, and theres overpaying

[brittle lagoon]

map1602 and longsys(?) nand, and the nand likely changed since then. Nv7000-t is known only map1602 with either 232l ymtc tlc/qlc, best case GameStop has the same performance, worst case is who knows what

[plain sphinx]

Any recommendations on decent priced PoE switches? Running a new camera system for my home, totally spaced when I bought the switches and got non-PoE 🙃. Thankfully I can use the switches for other projects.

Still would need 2 switches with minimum portd as each are only has 3 cameras.

[bold willow]

I got that free $10 bestbuy certificate, any recommendations for a usb C charging block around $15 or less?

Also I got the HP omnibook 5 and was wondering if I could use a slower charger without the huge PSU for on the go charging?

It’d be like a 20W anker block

Otherwise, I’m buying this hand sanitizer dispenser. https://www.bestbuy.com/product/purell-es6-automatic-wall-mounted-hand-sanitizer-dispenser-6424-01-graphite/J79C99P2YR/sku/11790510?sb_share

[fair moon]

I would grab this GaN charger from ugreen
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/ugreen-nexode-30w-usb-c-charger-compact-foldable-gan-charger-for-iphone-series-samsung-smartphones-ipads-black/J3R84YGXHH/sku/6621054

[delicate lake]

Is this tuff in 2026

[bold willow]

hmm i have an anker 25W one rn

is INIU a reputable brand?

[fair moon]

haven't heard of them

[bold willow]

Insignia?

[fair moon]

That's best buy's store brand I believe

[bold willow]

So its good just not high tier like UGREEN or ANKER

[fair moon]

Yeah it's probably alright

The UGreen one being GaN is nice, especially for a laptop where you're probably going to be pulling quite a bit of power from it

[bold willow]

but like is it safe for a laptop?

cause it comes with a 65W huge power supply

ill probably get the UGREEN one its only gonna be $2

[fair moon]

Yeah it should just charge slower

But GaN should in theory keep the charger cooler and allow it to sustain the full 30W for longer periods

[balmy lake]

I have iniu. Its been fine for me.

One at home. And one for my desk at work

[bold willow]

I wonder if I could tell the laptop to charge slower somewhere

It expects 65W but I’ll be using a 30W box

[fair moon]

I believe the charger itself should slow down if it needs to

[hybrid stone]

https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/5513867/Verbatim-Vi7000-2-TB-Solid-State/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=sag?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pla_cor_evg_peripherals_general_unid_prch_non-match&mediacampaignid=21424347582&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21424349187&gbraid=0AAAAAD2Eb4d3tOXpEsOL3S70EOwdhfroa&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyP3KBhD9ARIsAAJLnnZ2qbstzuWKjbV-EBGHLbnSkXoDes0EN3DjxeuNTp1COYqZ6gh8YfcaAiVoEALw_wcB

[sonic grail]

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Processor 8-core 16 Threads up to 4.5 GHz AM4 | GameStop https://share.google/EW9mm0idfhm8SW5ma

Yoo is this a deal? $200 for 5800x3d on gamestop new

[delicate lake]

https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/cpu/products/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-processor-8-core-16-threads-up-to-4.5-ghz-am4/341864.html

That is in fact a deal

[delicate lake]

This is also in fact a deal

Why is that so cheap though

[high radish]

maybe because for just 2 years warranty and 700tbw

[delicate lake]

Ah

Assuming you dont get a dud, should still be good

I wonder how slow it is when the cache folds though

[high radish]

yeah I don't think it's that bad but 2years warranty is very low for ssd

[fair moon]

Probably meh qlc

[fair moon]

OOS for me both in Oregon and Colorado

Probably like one random store has a few and is clearing stock

[stoic crest]

700 tbw is alright

should last for years

but if it's qlc nand, speed is a concern

[torpid night]

Why is this even posted?
#tech-deals message

[fallen idol]

What’s wrong with it?

[thin bolt]

It’s gone @fallen idol

[delicate lake]

[fallen idol]

Oh so not what I posted?

[thin bolt]

Nah

[fallen idol]

Ah gotcha

[bold willow]

Anyone know a good cheap "mini-pc" that I can run firefox on and steam videos (onto my TV)?

I don't think a firefox stick would be good enough.

[alpine eagle]

anything with an n100 or better would work fine for web browsing/ videos

[delicate lake]

yeah the n95 is brutal

i have it

[bold willow]

i do have a 2 fan rtx 2060 sitting in a box but id wanna make an itx or very small matx build with it to fit on my tv console

idk if its worth it to use the 2060 for a tv box tho

i do have a google chromebook tho

[earnest storm]

most of those are too bad to do anything

[torpid night]

Any Beelink

[bold willow]

This seems like a good deal, especially with 16GB of ram and an almost N100 level performance https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Generation-i5-1035G7-Processor-Computer/dp/B0CBV228M7/

[fair moon]

You can get used hp elitedesks or similar for ~$100

Tons out there with Ryzen 2400Gs and Intel 6500s

Something like this and drop in another 8gb
https://www.ebay.com/itm/267537398425

[bold willow]

Do you know if these have PCIE slots on the motherboard? If so, couldn't it theoretically plug in a GPU if i take the motherboard out of the case?

[fair moon]

They do not have a pcie

They have a sata connector and m.2

And some of them have a proprietary connector to add in an optional gpu unit (I think it's a Radeon 550 or something)

Here's what mine looks like. Circled are the gpu connector (left) and where the sata ribbon connector goes (right)

[bold willow]

I have a google chromebook with Intel UHD Graphics 600 and 4gb ram, im guessing that wouldnt be good enough

[torpid night]

If you can, try to push your budget to the S13. I think that N150 is a lot better than that N5105

[cursive sage]

Just Ultrakill alone is $15 on its lowest recorded price, this is a pretty good deal

[vague pine]

$12 still gets everything, i just might do it for ultrakill and haste

vampire survivors is in there too

dababy moment, less gooo

[opal flume]

I remember when Humble Bundle had good bundles frequently. And didn't make it so you always had to pay them something. And when they used to have the Yogscast Jingle Jam Bundle

[pallid geyser]

What would really top off that humble bundle is if they included balatro

[delicate lake]

Considering…

[sonic grail]

Any portable monitor deals under $60? I missed the msi refurbished one on woot 😭

Idk if buying an offbrand one is worth it on amazon

[delicate lake]

What is the offbrand

[shrewd aspen]

https://a.co/d/cpIu3Jc I got this for Christmas and loving it
1080P-60hz-ips-matte

$50^

[sonic grail]

It's like interhill and azroppa etc

Just brands I'm not really familiar with like KTC, MSI, Asrock etc

[sonic grail]

Ohh this looks good!

Aw man it doesn't say latency though, I wanted to at least get 4ms for light gaming 😢

[bold willow]

GeForce now makes sense with ram prices right?

[brittle lagoon]

Not exactly when they're raising prices and adding hour limits

[shut lava]

Only if you play games for a limited number of hours per month. If I remember correctly, extra hours can get costly.

[bold willow]

It says 100 hours per month with 6 hours per day maximum

My friend doesn’t play that much anyways so I think it’d be a good option for him

He has one of those things where you do work for money all day

[shut lava]

People run into issues with new game releases and wanting to play all weekend.

The 6 hours per day can really limit the enjoyment.

[brittle lagoon]

game support and mod support can be pretty annoying

the current hour limits aren't that bad but they're just a sign of what's to come

[bold willow]

Yeah but like for a few months it’d work and maybe he will get his own pc

[brittle lagoon]

don't go for any of the long term options, get them to try a month and see how it goes

the latency can be very annoying, especially if network conditions aren't completely ideal

[civic sun]

woah I heard of those before

[bold willow]

He doesn’t do heavy competitive

[brittle lagoon]

I mean it's bad enough to affect single player rpg games

[bold willow]

Hm

[brittle lagoon]

depending on network conditions

[bold willow]

Well they do have the free plan for 1 hour to try

[brittle lagoon]

they should try it out but don't bet on it

[bold willow]

I guess another option is a used gaming laptop cause those lose value super quick

[shut lava]

Finding a used PC might be worth it over GeForce Now if things such as latency and hour limits matter.

[sonic grail]

Any deals on surge protectors lately? And what should I look for in surge protectors?

[delicate lake]

There's this small guy on sale rn
https://a.co/d/7a8KjeA

[sonic grail]

Whoaa that's amazing! So many outlets

[sonic grail]

Thank you!

Also just to make sure since US outlets is 1500W I can only have less than that all together right?

[delicate lake]

1800 for 15 amp and 2400 for 20 amp circuit

[delicate lake]

Yeah smart use of space with the side outlets

But it might get messy or take up a lot of space if cables are plugged in on all sides

I would use the top ones first and then go out if needed

[sonic grail]

🫡

[delicate lake]

Assuming you have it on the floor

[sonic grail]

Just ordered, that's crazy I think the old tripplite one I purchased a while back was like only 1000 ish joules and was 32 bucks

I'll have it on my desk

[delicate lake]

If you have it under the desk then it won't matter

Speaking of mounting I really gotta mount mine

[sonic grail]

Is TUV listed similiar to UL listed?

[delicate lake]

This being on the floor aint it fr
https://a.co/d/6omUcMq

[sonic grail]

So many plugs ahaha

[delicate lake]

tuv is preferred in europe and ul for north america

so i guess the european version

[sonic grail]

Ohh I'm in US it should be fine right?

It's just their labs are from there right?

[delicate lake]

it seems that ul is more rigorous than tuv but i actually dont know much

as long as it has tuv or ul it should be good from my normie pov

main reason i got mine was the spacing between the outlets and was also conveniently on sale

[sonic grail]

Oh wait that's true spacing on outlets is important

Alright Imma check my plugs just in case

[delicate lake]

yeah but that one i linked earlier has good spacing

[delicate lake]

in fact it has even more than mine

[sonic grail]

Ahh yeah it does whewww

[delicate lake]

believe it or not i was having a spacing issue a few days ago but got around it

even on that chungus

[sonic grail]

Wait how do you find out spacing? I can't find the listing

[delicate lake]

here

that is from the listing

[sonic grail]

Ahh I see wow 2.2 inches yeah that should be plenty

[shrewd aspen]

Gonna be fair, after current usage it seems to be a basic 1080p monitor which is perfect for any console/pc at the cost and size

Just highly avoid using HDR on it, you will meet the maker’s light from the beginning of time

[sonic grail]

Okk that's my backup option if I don't find any other big brand portable monitors for a good price

[sonic grail]

What does this mean? 😭

[shrewd aspen]

Just gets washed out with brightness

[celest talon]

Ok peoples! Lets Rock this....one.:} My Main rig is not the subject of todays enquiry. Which is on the trade in I am about to do with Newegg. The offer was a buck of my backup rigs gpu upgrade. I am trading in a card with less than 300 hours on. When I upgrade my MR's cpu the 5600x will slide into the BUR. I mean it isn't nothing special. All I would say abouyt BUR, 1. Its the backup. 2 AMD build currently has a intel Arc770 on a B550 mobo. Everything else is basically not worried bout. I mean I havent touched BUR, I built it for my son but. Anyway, I want a decent backup, yk? I mean between my roommate, son, and few friends I actually have. I am a MAD Gamer here! Used to be yk Hs;) I have 6950XT. A770 to a??? tbh I had....this is my thoughts on BUR. Should the time arise where I am needing to use BUR for every day type.....I would not want to take a step backwards Ig. Ik that places me in the 7000 series but idk jack bout them really. I learned tech\computers..after cars and guns. But before I raised my damn hand...sooo a Long *** time ago. I went college for it. I started in the mental department like literally damn smh;} ANy and all help. I mean I am here asking for idk, your attitudes and opinions. ....and saying hi! So Hi.

I am surfin g doing my research right now as well.Is rdna4 a thing yet?
budget is...idk whats a sideways step to the 6950xt? I hate Google! We BEEF'N. yk big beef'n.
If you can't tell, I am not a people person. I am a HUGE introvert. Everyone claims they an intj, ok....you think its kool huh? Well I don't. Frickn hate it!

[bold willow]

What

[pallid geyser]

I ain’t reading all that
I’m happy for u tho
Or sorry that happened

[opal flume]

Bouta use ChatGPT for the first time to get a tldr

[uncut plume]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6950-xt.c3875 I think you're looking for something like that. 9070 or 9070xt probably make the most sense depending on available pricing.

[fringe olive]

What in the block of text.

All that exposition just to ask for a GPU reccomendation essentially.

[bold willow]

New York Times Bestseller

[celest talon]

Oh, so you guys don't know how to read english.And I didn't explain to you that I don't know how to interface with two leggets???

[thin bolt]

To be fair, your post was a lot of rambling compared to the need of actual information you requested.

[delicate lake]

Fr

[brittle lagoon]

I did actually respond in #graphics-cards smh

[delicate lake]

It’s like when you ask an “ai” if there is a seahorse emoji and it goes crazy

But I would go for the 4070/super or a 9070 if possible

[delicate lake]

I am skeptical about this cooler
https://www.ebay.com/itm/287075417675

Actually it’s not bad

[cursive sage]

If there's a MicroCenter near you or if you'd like to try pricematching with Best Buy

https://www.microcenter.com/product/691104/asrock-amd-radeon-rx-9070-challenger-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-50-graphics-card

[thin bolt]

Hey @jade prawn is this still a good deal

#tech-deals message

[pallid geyser]

wtf 💀

[thin bolt]

[jade prawn]

Seriously 🚫

[thin bolt]

Well

Is it still a good deal

[pallid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-buy-now-buy-it-now-gif-25006426

[bold willow]

Is $90 for a 4TB WD Black P10 a good deal?

[thin bolt]

Yes

Sounds like a scam

[bold willow]

Target clearance

In store

Is it really that insane of a deal?

[delicate lake]

Then it’s legit

[opal flume]

A 2tb P10 directly from WD is currently $90, so yes

The 4tb ones are usually 140-150

[uncut plume]

I didn't think hdds had gotten that bad too.

[opal flume]

P10s are external drives. An internal WD blue drive is $75 for 4tb right now and a WD black hard drive is like, $170 right now for 4tb

Actually, the PCPP listing is wrong, it is $100

For a blue 4tb

[fair moon]

22.5/tb is crazy ok

If it's in store they probably only have a handful left and wanna clear stock

Oh wait is it a hard drive

[uncut plume]

I haven't seriously looked at hard drives in years. The last one I bought was an 8tb external for $100, $120 something like that.

[fair moon]

Ohhhh it is a hard drive my bad

[opal flume]

They've gone up starting in September

[fair moon]

130mb/s isn't too bad for a 2.5" disk

Wouldn't reccomend gaming off of a hdd in the big 26 but it could be good for media and/or backups

[opal flume]

$0.0225 per gb is cheaper than anything listed on PCPP for hard drives with a valid price right now

And isn't super high density

When compared to internal drives that is

Besides Barracudas

[fair moon]

Yeah also with hard drives it's nice to have a new one with full warranty

[opal flume]

My thing just updated and Amazon is selling 4tb Barracudas for $80

[fair moon]

Looks like pretty similar specs. Both 5400rpm and 256mb cache

Unfortunately the P10 has soldered circuitry so a shuck is difficult

[bold willow]

Idk if it’s not crazy I’m not gonna get it

[fair moon]

I wouldn't buy it unless you need the storage rn

I don't see hard drive prices increasing

[opal flume]

[thin bolt]

They have been on a slow rise

[fair moon]

... I mean they don't use much ram/nand

I guess if ssds are crazy expensive maybe HDDs would rise a little

[opal flume]

They have been rising, specifically in higher density categories

[fair moon]

Interesting

[opal flume]

WD also increased their hard drive prices across the board

That $100 WD Blue 4tb was $85 back in September. Then they did a price drop in October and in the last week or two of October they raised it to $100

[fair moon]

I feel like some amount of fluctuation is fairly normal

Fake sales etc

We'll have to watch longer term I suppose

[bold willow]

I was just thinking about setting up a large storage for movies n stuff

[civic sun]

hdds are fine for that

[thin bolt]

I use an HDD for games I don’t play often

[opal flume]

I use one for smol and or old games that weren't made with SSDs in mind

[thin bolt]

Yeah

[bold willow]

Bro tryna buy old dell pcs from my university e waste thingy

But the only options are like lots of 70+ desktops lol

They got a ton of Macs but idk if I could use that for a tv pc

[thin bolt]

Bulk buys are their man stuff man
Happens all the time

[bold willow]

But them at $10 a piece and then resell them to me on eBay for $70

Or even they could just pull the 8gb of ram out and make a profit

I think I should just make a pc

I’m swapping out of my lian li a3 which would look kinda cool sitting below my tv

Then I could at least use my rtx 2060 for something.

[delicate lake]

@high radish where the cooler at

Me nah see ahn da fone

[high radish]

Comes with cpu

[high radish]

Cooler comes as gift with cpu even without ram combo

[delicate lake]

Ah so just add to cart

[high radish]

Yeah add cpu to cart and it will add as gift item

[delicate lake]

[high radish]

I had lots of b850 mobos from combo so I'll get 9600x to pair them

[sonic grail]

Woohoo good deal war_pig

[shut lava]

The 9800X3D advertised price was bait and switch. Originally it was $399.99, but shortly before the sale I received another sale email with an updated price of $449.99. It only showed up as $449.99 after the discoutn code. #tech-deals message

Even 1 minute after the sale started(noon my local time) the $449.99 price was displayed. Were there only a dozen at the $399.99 price?

[uncut plume]

Probably. The good door buster deals have been botted out in seconds before because of low quantity.

[shut lava]

At first I thought, its amazing how companies can't make good anti bot protection, then I realized they don't care about anti bot protection as long as they sell products.

[uncut plume]

Stuff like that where it's priced so well that it's meant to be an advertisement they should care about keeping bots out. The whole point is to build goodwill and get traffic from real people on their site hoping they'll come back next time they need something.

Maybe they just want to get people looking at the $450 price, clear some inventory before the 9850x3d comes out and pushes the price down and/or results in the 9800 getting discontinued. Making people feel like they missed out on $400 doesn't feel like a good way to encourage them to bite at $450 though.

[stoic crest]

it brings in sales, thus they just don't bother with bot protection

[mortal blaze]

if a bought a deal of ryzen 5 9600X + msi mag a13 black for $199 (1/16/2026) and now its $185, i can claim for refund of this 15 dollars?

[thin bolt]

@foggy coral

[mortal blaze]

Thx

[vague pine]

cl38, but for $200 in this ram economy

[balmy lake]

Did asrock fix frying cpu’s tho? Or was that resolved in some other way?

[hybrid void]

it wasn't, and now Asus are frying X3D too, seems like these CPUs are simply too fragile

[latent stone]

do they not do performance tests before they release new cpus or new motherboards into market?

[thin bolt]

Sometimes
You gotta dig

What are you looking for?

[latent stone]

just a question to reply to stu

or a question for anyone

[thin bolt]

They do performance tests. But a company can only do so many tests.
They don’t have every single configuration of possibilities.

For example, let’s say I am the company.
I can test for about 100 things in 100 hours.

The 10000 people who buy my product can test the same amount in the same time, so that’s many multitudes more tests and stresses that I cannot do within that timeframe, thus have no results for.

[latent stone]

mm makes sense

[delicate lake]

At least asrock has been trying to do something about it

The other companies are just kinda like whatever

But asrock releases multiple versions

they were releasing something new like every month last year

[earnest storm]

yeah they did

[delicate lake]

They are still killing them

[earnest storm]

are they? ive only heard that its been fixed

[thin bolt]

As far as I’ve seen(I’m not too into that space), it’s very very rare

[hoary lodge]

which is better

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qxv7rM

the motherboard and AIO are cheaper

but

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3JdT4p

the AIO and motherboard are more expensive in this one, but buying both the motherboard & AIO for 590

is the deal worth or not?

does it rlly make it difference? should I go cheap or secure this deal rn?

[delicate lake]

Probably what happened is the number of deaths went down

But they are still dying

And still more than other brands

[delicate lake]

It does not

Get the cheaper one

And honestly you can get away with a 7800x3d

Damn it’s like 380 everywhere idk then

For 450 98x3d would be better long term

Also you can get an even cheaper board tbh

[hoary lodge]

Can you rlly go cheaper? Some board are quicker than others

And some aren't compatible with Ram sticks that are 6000 if I remember correctly

Def don't want those types

Everything I ain't for long term too

AIO seems rlly nice plus it could go up to 2800 RPM; don't care about noise

[brittle lagoon]

We're pretty far past Intel's locking boards to frequencies era, these boards are all unlocked, board to board variations only really come into play at like 7000-8000+, most of the time, your imc is going to be your limiting factor before your mobo.

Even though Asrock has been dealing with the 9800x3d deaths for a while, it's still pretty unclear if the origin of the issues have been solved, the only thing that's for sure is that reports have gone down in frequency

Although there has also been some reports of Asus boards with 9800x3d deaths in the past few days, but the numbers are still low for now

[brittle lagoon]

Would also refer to actual testing results and not just looking at rpm, rpm being too high isn't necessarily a good thing, like on the old deepcool ls720, where the pump was too strong and running at 100% led to worse performance because of the extra turbulence lol, there's also how coldplate, radiator, and fan design will affect the end performance significantly beyond the pump performance

[hoary lodge]

I see, I guess I can still roll out the 200 buck motherboard, but the AIO, I'll do some proper research cuz that thang looks sick

Want it to work great as its looks

[hybrid stone]

I’ve built 70+ rigs in the last year and virtually any B650/B850 board that has the features you want/need* will run everything completely fine

If you want to overpay for the look of the AIO feel free, but just know that a 50 thermalright or 100 montech option is more than enough. Anything past that is aesthetics.

[hybrid void]

Is B650 that much different from A620? Imo A620 is totally ok unless you want extra connectivity

[hybrid stone]

A620 is just not worth the savings with how affordable B650 is at this point. Pretty easy to get B650 for 65-125$ at this point depending on where you source it

[earnest storm]

and also one of the MAIN points of am5 is upgradability, which an a620 defeats that entire purpose

[hybrid void]

How? Future CPU's won't work on A620?

[earnest storm]

not any good ones

also bad vrms and bad vrm heatsinks

[hybrid void]

unless you're going for something like 7900x almost any a620 vrm is fine

[earnest storm]

not even

any cpu better than a r5, you want better than an a620

just avoid them at all costs, its not a good chipset and they dont have much one them

[brittle lagoon]

My main problem with a620 is going to be the IO lol, chipset being gen 3 can be very annoying when you're adding extra drives, as well as worse throughput on the USB ports

VRMs are going to depend on the exact board, they tend to be worse because the boards tend to be a lot cheaper

[high radish]

I mean market floating with cheap b650/b850s right now . Especially ebay (thanks to newegg combos)

[hybrid void]

unfortunately cheap itx is scarce

[earnest storm]

its a 30$ difference for a new itx a620 vs b650, or an extra 10 off that for a b850

thats very much worth it

[fair moon]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007476459944.html

My am4 jginyue doesn't support windows sleep but other than that works perfectly

Sleep may be fixed for the am5 boards

[fair moon]

8+2+1 vrms

[pearl sand]

What would this be worth if I swapped the rx7600 for a rx7800xt?

[tawdry dragon]

$900

Maybe

I'd pay at most $700

[bold willow]

Any good deals on laptops that can be gamed on?

~$500 USD

my friend wanna game

[fair moon]

At that price I think you're either getting a 5050 or integrated graphics

[bold willow]

ngl a 5050 would probably be fine

i heard some of the new intel igpus (laptops) are okay for gaming or is that just marketing

[fair moon]

Nvm the 5050 deal is oos

[bold willow]

oof

[fair moon]

I don't know much about the modern igpus but they've gotten pretty good on both Intel and ryzen

r/laptopdeals is a good starting point but you'll have to find an igpu tier list or something

[earnest storm]

Uh… no

[uncut plume]

At $500 you're realistically looking at used and maybe a 3050/ti but if you can find a cheap enough 4050 that's likely a big upgrade. What sort of games?

[thin bolt]

@stoic crest time

[bold willow]

Actually wait he might do $1000

So what about that

[fair moon]

$856 5060 32gb ram refurb

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-tuf-gaming-f16-16-fhd-165hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-14650hx-32gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-1tb-ssd-jaeger-gray/JJGGLH8LZ5/sku/6629421/openbox?condition=0&sb_share_source=PDP&ref=app_pdp&loc=pdp_page

This is OOS now but the fact that it existed might mean waiting for a better sale is a good idea

https://www.reddit.com/r/LaptopDeals/comments/1qn5v12/newegg_lenovo_legion_5i_gaming_laptop_151_wqxga/

[uncut plume]

I was going to say the loq too. https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lenovo-loq-15-6-ips-lcd-fhd-144hz-amd-ryzen-7-250-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ai-powered-gaming-laptop-16gb-ram-512gb-gray/JJGH3SWCF5 $880 though.

[fair moon]

Oh nice

Unfortunate how the gaming laptop market is so much worse than the general use laptop market

[earnest storm]

the general use laptop market is AMAZING rn

b390 coming soon is 🔥

[fair moon]

Qualcomm AMD and Intel are all fighting fiercely

[earnest storm]

for current stuff the 288v is awesome, i found a 2tb 32gb 288v 3k oled laptop for 1k the other week

[fair moon]

Best buy has fairly consistently had 16gb oled snapdragon laptops for 5-600

[earnest storm]

eh

ARM windows is very very...

meh

[fair moon]

For the right person it's good

[earnest storm]

but that right person prolly needs more than 16gb ram

js saying

[fair moon]

Nah

MacBook alternative type beat

Web browsing machine that will have great battery life

Though I do think some of the new Ryzen an Intel offerings have gotten a lot better battery life wise

[earnest storm]

ah

that makes sense

[fair moon]

Not that 8gb macbooks are bad, but at this point if you wanna buy something and have it last like 8 years you probably want more than 8gb

And the 16gb Macbooks get pretty expensive

[hoary lodge]

trying to bling up my future build with lian li RGB cables, but r expensive, any other known brands that are cheaper?

ooo

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804175039573.html?src=google&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!71.53!71.53!!!!!%40!12000031999499548!ppc!!!&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa

[earnest storm]

8 reviews, low sold, crazy delivery time

https://www.amazon.com/Sirlyr-RGB-LED-Strips-Cables/dp/B0FJ1WBPDZ cheaper, better shipping time and on amazon

[hoary lodge]

u r the best

[hybrid stone]

Do not consider anything other than the Lenovo legion or LOQ IMO

Best Buy open box can be a gold
mine (I got my 5050 LOQ there) but also the MC 5060 Legion is a good deal.

Jarrod’s Tech has the best tracker https://gaminglaptop.deals/

[bold willow]

I think he just bought a laptop already

Damn

It’s a gigabyte one idk which

[hybrid stone]

IMO the build quality of the Lenovo’s can’t be beat.

[torpid night]

Just don't go with an IdeaPad

"Idea with no Think"

[bold willow]

He got this https://www.microcenter.com/product/704935/acer-nitro-v-16s-ai-anv16s-41-r2dx-16-gaming-laptop-computer-obsidian-black

$1000 for an rtx 5070 laptop seems good

[brittle lagoon]

as a legion 5 owner, should be aware that the screen connector piece is extremely fragile and can't easily be fixed without a new screen lol

[hoary lodge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C6GCpK

got two from the list already

looking for cheaper 140mm fans that are similar to the lian li 140mm reversed with magnet connection capabilities

also looking for cheaper RGB PSU cables, ones w the PSU cables already embedded into them

[uncut plume]

I'd just swap the really expensive rog cooler for a thermalright, they have ones with a screen like that for around $100 or with a big curved screen like a tryx knockoff for around $200. Then get the nice lian li stuff if you want it.

[hoary lodge]

ogh I already bought a ROG cooler, got it for 300 flat brand new

I'd be down to get lian li stuff if there isn't any cheaper exact copies

[uncut plume]

I don't think there are cheaper ones at the same quality level. Corsair and thermaltake have nice ones with similar features but they're not cheap. The cheap ones like thermalright or aliE brand aren't as nice, both for the cabling and the leds.

And the actual fans. The lian li and corsair are actual good fans not just good fans for argb fans.

[hoary lodge]

big thanks man, lian li it is

gonna try finding if there is any good lian li PSU RGB cable copies

[uncut plume]

Strimer? There are knockoffs. Might be the same story with quality.

Not sure on that though, I always thougth they just look gaudy.

[hoary lodge]

yeah some of them don't have as much RGB

[hoary lodge]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DWPH5N38?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1 vs https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS2QG2KW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[delicate lake]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RVWmP6/asrock-steel-legend-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-sl-16g

[hoary lodge]

better than both?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2v-9UNoW84

came across this too

[delicate lake]

It is basically the same thermals as the gigabyte, both are pretty warm

Just that the asrock is white but cheaper

The xfx is better but it costs much more

[hoary lodge]

down for that

[delicate lake]

The gigabyte draws ~10% more power and is slightly hotter than the steel legend by a couple degrees, so they are basically the same

If you want to spend less then get the steel legend if you want white

[hoary lodge]

since it draws more power = better performance?

[delicate lake]

It also depends on the binning

A worse binned chip at more power would be the same as a better bin at reference spec

[hoary lodge]

oo

[delicate lake]

The difference is not worth the additional $100

In relation to the xfx

You can just get a steel legend and tweak it a bit to match the sapphire

[hoary lodge]

ahhh I see

[delicate lake]

I think I net about a ~7-8% increase with my 9070 steel legend, which is pulling 240w out of the box, which is higher than the reference spec

So I basically match a reference 9070 xt

But you can do the same with the xt and get even further

[hoary lodge]

bet, thanks tech man

[delicate lake]

Interesting how the temperatures are lower in the older video

[hoary lodge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZJBD3/asrock-taichi-oc-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx9070xt-tc-16go

taichi OC seems pretty good too

might just pick taichi oc instead

[earnest storm]

That 12v connector is…

[hoary lodge]

wdym

[earnest storm]

It uses a 12vhpwr connector

Which is known to have issues

I’d honestly just get the cheapest card that you like how it looks

Looks to be a gaming oc or a steel legend for black/white

[hoary lodge]

ooo alr

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9rqKJn

new build now : p

alr bought the case and AIO; time to buy the CPU and motherboard next

[earnest storm]

uhh

why is the aio almost 400$

also 240 for a board is wild

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tTjPmC if you can return the aio still do so, heres the other parts id recommend

(quite literally saves over 700 without me even changing the case)

[delicate lake]

If you wanted to save even more you could get the 7800x3d but I don't know the current price

Not really sure if it is worth

374

Well it at least brings it just under 1600

[earnest storm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vzd4t3 diff case to get to 1512

[delicate lake]

[hoary lodge]

ogh I got the AIO for 300 from someone, new

[earnest storm]

can you send it back?

[hoary lodge]

I'm fine going expensive on stuff, but not stupid expensive like nvidia cards

[earnest storm]

that is stupid expensive.

thats more stupid expensive than nvidia cards

[hoary lodge]

ehhh I'll throw an exception then, lol