tech-deals-discussion

[lime pier]

IMO just get an Air then, they're quite good for the price. Check hardwareswap reddit, discord doesn't have as many people posting apple stuff but it's worth a look.

Also check r/AppleSwap, it's not as good as hardwareswap but often has decent deals on ipads and such

[cinder kiln]

I can't remember a time when air wasn't the more decent half of apple ngl

Mini too, mini's can be quite nice

[velvet rock]

I would like a keyboard tho

[lime pier]

you can get a keyboard with the Air, however I wouldn't recommend Apple's keyboard unless you can get it cheap used. it's incredibly overpriced and not durable at all

[velvet rock]

Was looking at the logitech one

Gonna post in hardware swap trade a laptop I have hanging around for a ipad

3060, 64gbs of ddr4, used prob 12 hours total no oil even on the keys, 17" , etc.

Should be able to get one

[tawdry dragon]

Really good laptop, should be able to sell it and get a pro

[velvet rock]

How do you protect yourself froms scammers on there, I see most use paypal?

[lime pier]

must use paypal invoice/goods and services exclusively

never use FnF

[lime pier]

you can get a pro for that, def don't post it as a trade. Just sell it and buy a cheap ipad and pocket the extra like $500

[velvet rock]

What should I ask, it has a little overheating problem so maybe 600

700

[tawdry dragon]

700 easy

[lime pier]

probably 700 yeah, if it's got a good ryzen or 12th gen+ intel cpu

500-600 if it's got 10th-11th gen or a low end ryzen processor

can get a solid ipad for 200ish

[tawdry dragon]

I got my 3050 ti/ 11400h laptop for $420 (screen defect), so if yours is still in good condition and has better specs you should be able to get quite a bit for it

[velvet rock]

Asus TUF706HM - ES76

I7 - 18000H @ 2.30 GHz

Ram - 64gbs

Storage - 2tbs

GPU - RTX 3060

[tawdry dragon]

11800h?

I'd say $650 -$750

[velvet rock]

Ight

[tawdry dragon]

start with like $800, and gradually lower the price if nobody buys it

[velvet rock]

Gonna post soon, lot's of stuff you have to add to the post to be approved lol

[tawdry dragon]

Lol, that's a good thing

[grand orbit]

Ime basically all earphones get uncomfortable after a few hours, and yeah needs adjusting sometimes but if your ears get irritated when you use in ears, like i do it's the best option

[civic sun]

my friend keeps trying to tell me that I wasted my money on headphones and iems are so much better for the price but I have the same issue. gets uncomfortable after a while and shifting just slightly annoys me. I also have earwax problems when using iems for a few days consecutively

[forest prairie]

I just don't want little cones in my ears

[torpid night]

I've learned to just deal with it

So now I have AirPods

[civic sun]

the comfort I can deal with. the ear clogging I can't. I already had to go to a ear doctor to clear out my ear once, don't want to have to go through that again

[torpid night]

I want to clear my ears out

[forest prairie]

I need that

[cinder kiln]

I hate the in-ear stuff too

tried it for like, 3 years

it was just painful

[torpid night]

Would I use it at my desktop? No. When I'm around the house or maybe even traveling? All the time

[civic sun]

yeah I would say it has a place but I am not personally a fan of replacing desktop audio with iems

[torpid night]

heck no

[forest prairie]

Why not use a bt speaker for around the house

Just imagine music when travelling

[torpid night]

Because I'm not the only one in the house

And my music taste is vastly different from everybody else's in this house

[forest prairie]

Headpone

[torpid night]

ye

[cloud hornet]

Assert dominance smh my head

[torpid night]

Against a house full of country listeners? 💀

They already consider me a rebel despite being normal and they're political radical (for the obvious side. I don't want to break the rules here)

[forest prairie]

Country?

[civic sun]

that's what I do

[torpid night]

country music

[civic sun]

my music taste is clearly the best

[forest prairie]

What kind of country

Country pop or something

[torpid night]

just general country

maybe not country pop though

like George Straight type country. just the normal stuff

[forest prairie]

I just assume country means country pop because that's what it ends up being 90% of the time

[torpid night]

ye not that

[forest prairie]

If it ain't from the 1930s it's country pop fr ‼️

[torpid night]

lol it wouldn't be known as contemporary country?

[forest prairie]

Idk

[torpid night]

contemporary makes sense to me

[civic sun]

sub genres are too difficult to keep track of

[torpid night]

because country pop to me is like old Taylor Swift (bad example but the first example I could think of)

[forest prairie]

Country pop is when the country pops ‼️

I just see it as whatever they put on the radio that everyone listens to like fast food

[light bay]

It drives me crazy when people say that like Zach Bryan and Morgan Walker are really country

If your family listens to older country you should listen to newer "country" and just insist it's real country lol

[fleet marlin]

Where's the deal discussion

[forest prairie]

Right here champ

Pave the way to greatness

[cinder kiln]

@grand orbit

[lapis parcel]

Is the pc i linked in the deal channel better than this ? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-m16-16165hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i9-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-off-black/6494637.p?skuId=6494637

Both are on sale down cheap

[forest prairie]

9 number bigger than 7 number

[lapis parcel]

There was even a rtx3080 version of the hp opem 40l down to 439

[lapis parcel]

Anybody who finds those two deals in stock is it availble for shipping none around me have them im tyring to find a store to pricematch it but am having no luck at all

[fleet marlin]

Price before links plz, & this low of stock might as well just put em on this channel, but that's just me.

[lapis parcel]

does new egg pricematch?

[jolly inlet]

Sometimes, only when they have "price match guarantee" on an item page

[lapis parcel]

Now they might process it

[lapis parcel]

I might stop at bestbuy/walmart to see if they have those on the shelf and i could pricematch it

[lapis parcel]

Question does Best Buy not update the app to show instock when they get more in for any location

[lapis parcel]

Well I’ll figure out tomorrow when I go into Best Buy which ever they have I’m gonna get

[cinder kiln]

Damn all those systems are a good deal

End of boxing day sales ig

[shut lava]

If the 4070 super is actually available for MSRP, does that make the 6900 XT/6050 XT for $600 less of a deal?

[grand orbit]

6900xt ye, 6950xt a lil bit

[shut lava]

The performance difference between the 6900 XT and 6950 XT of the same manufacturer and model is so small that I don't see it being a difference on what is a good deal. A difference of 2% to 5% depending on the game and resolution.

[jolly inlet]

They did use slightly better memory and bumped the power on the 6950 XT so it can overclock a little better, but comparing stock performance you are correct

[azure pond]

Imo 6950xt at $600 currently isn't a good deal

I'd rather a 7800xt at $500

[grand orbit]

Finally online order that's not through third party, lets see if they also managed to do this for other countries than US

They do not... But they made it a lil cleaner

[velvet rock]

@tawdry dragon @lime pier What other marketplace did you say had good deals on iPads?

I’m in hardwareswap

[tawdry dragon]

I don't think that was me

[lime pier]

appleswap

they only have a reddit tho i think

[trim pier]

@azure pond to

Hey

Is the z790 aorus board 13th gen supported

[velvet rock]

Can you send it me

Dm

[trim pier]

Also should I buy it to replace my z690 asus tuf gaming d4?

[jolly inlet]

That depends on which CPU you have or plan to get, but all 700 series boards will support all 13th gen desktop chips on a technical level

[trim pier]

Ah, I guess my name got deleted but I have that 13600k and 7800xt pair

I really want that 4070 super idk why 😭

[jolly inlet]

13600k will lose about 15% of its potential performance using DDR4. Whether that's worth buying a new motherboard for is up to you.

As for the 4070 Super, it is currently the best value nvidia card and wouldn't be a bad buy at MSRP if you really want the nvidia extra features.

[trim pier]

Looking at benchmarks rn, really doesn’t seem worth for 5-10 fps for 100$ more

That DLSS 3 and RT is promising but I’ll keep my 7800xt at this point

Though I really do want an upgrade to ddr5, just a 270$ upgrade I might aswell go with AM5 right

[jolly inlet]

If you already have the 7800 XT I wouldn't even consider the 4070S, it's basically the same performance

[trim pier]

Ya I wouldn’t, just the “new” impulse buy

But with the upgrade, wouldn’t it be better to just sell my cpu, mobo, and put it towards AM5 than LGA1700 upgrade?

[jolly inlet]

I'd wait to upgrade until next gen AMD in a couple months tbh. 8000 series is supposed to be on par with 7000X3D in gaming with none of the drawbacks.

[trim pier]

Hmm I thought that was for AI though

Considering it’s integrated graphics and etc

Unless you mean the 8000s gaming series?

[jolly inlet]

That's 8000G series, which is just 7000 with a better APU

[trim pier]

Ah

[jolly inlet]

I mean like the 8600X CPU

They're due late March or April

[trim pier]

Aghhhhhh

I hate upgrading tbh

So much impulse buying

[severe jolt]

8800X3D when

[trim pier]

Considering when I bought my stuff, it was during the high DDR5 prices

Aka late 2022

[jolly inlet]

It's not in the plans so far. No leaks of roadmaps have shown it.

But we are getting 12 core CCDs

[severe jolt]

Wryyyyyy

[jolly inlet]

Instead of 8

[severe jolt]

Why is that good?

Like

Doesn't more cores in CCD mean less cache?

Cuz I'd assume it's gonna be 4 Zen 4 and 8 Zen 4c for the 12 cores per CCD

[jolly inlet]

The only reason to avoid chips like the 7900X was in order to get 12 cores, you need 2x 6 core CCDs, and when the cores have to communicate between the CCDs there's a latency penalty. With a 12 core CCD, no latency penalty, best gamer CPU becomes a 12c/24t

[severe jolt]

Tbf Zen 4c still full fat cores
But less cache

[jolly inlet]

No it's a new process node that's allowing them to shrink things

[severe jolt]

Oh?

What, 4nm?

[jolly inlet]

3nm iirc

[severe jolt]

Yields might suck at that tbf

And who knows, maybe they'll make 6 cores with more cache in a single CCD
That'd be pretty based for gaming

[jolly inlet]

It's been around for a while so TSMC should have it down by now

[severe jolt]

I guess we'll see

I'm frankly more hyped for the APUs (cuz my sisters REAAAAAAALLY need a new computer)

[jolly inlet]

8700G being able to do 1080p high refresh in fps games with FSR on is nice

[severe jolt]

Ikr?

It's perfect for my sisters who only watch Netflix or play low spec stuff (Minecraft at most)

And since I wanna replace my mobo and case anyway, they can have my current ones (tho I'll have to chuck 2 fans in the case so there is some airflow)

Just need to figure out BIOS updates

It'll be low-key perfect for them

[azure pond]

Have you seen anything on cost for it?

[jolly inlet]

Yes but we all know how often that changes

[severe jolt]

What would be interesting is
X3D APUs

I doubt it'll happen because it'd probably be too good

But the thought experiment is interesting to me

[jolly inlet]

They've done weird things with 3D cache in their internal testing. Who knows.

[severe jolt]

Unless something like a sudden crypto surge happens I doubt it'll come to market

Or another bout of lockdown surging demand for GPUs

But if I'm wrong and they become a thing anyway

I'm getting one lmao

[jolly inlet]

AMD gave up on the low power, low end market so a 3D APU could be a godsend for people that can't add a higher power GPU to their prebuilt

[severe jolt]

I mean

I'd imagine prebuilts straight up just not coming with a GPU if that becomes a thing

[jolly inlet]

That's already a thing

[severe jolt]

And go like super cheap ~400 bucks total

[severe jolt]

I mean yes but a prebuilt with an 8 core x3D APU and no GPU wouldn't suck

And it's still an X3D chip so you can slap a GPU into it later if you so desire (assuming you also upgrade the PSU because such a rig would only have like a 250w)

[fair moon]

I doubt they would do an x3d apu

Unless the graphics in the chip become powerful enough to use the speed of x3d

[tawdry dragon]

it'd be cool, but the gpu would be severely limiting

[azure pond]

Yeah it'd be counter intuitive

The whole point of x3d is stronger gaming performance

While the newer apus are capable of gaming, they're very entry level. Nowhere near 5600x3d level, let alone 7800x3d

[fair moon]

Yup

[fair moon]

This chart doesn't show it but the igpu downgrades alongaide the cpu

[azure pond]

Hm, do you know what cpus have which igpus?

[azure pond]

I might pick up an 8500g or 8600g depending

Hm alright

I might just go for a used cpu and gpu over a new apu

[tawdry dragon]

I think these'll be showing up more frequently in mini pcs

[fair moon]

Iirc I watched some yt video and they said the 740 is a pretty considerable decrease from the 780/60

[azure pond]

Yeah I've got a while before I'm deciding anything anyways, It's gonna be at least a few months till I'm buying

[fair moon]

Yup

[tawdry dragon]

Might as well just get a 7600+rx580 bundle for the price, unless you need that low power low heat type deal (instead of 8700g)

[azure pond]

Maybe I'll upgrade my 3060 ti with a 4070 super and put the 3060 ti in the new build

[fair moon]

12cu -> 8cu -> 4cu

[azure pond]

It's going to be cool seeing how the apus scale with hynix tuning

I wonder if it'll be a similar thing with 5600g/5700g where they could handle like 4000mhz-4400mhz gear 1 and the igpu performance soared

[fair moon]

Yeah for people doing their own builds I think the 8600G will the the popular choice

[azure pond]

Any idea how the cpu perf compares to current gen?

Will it just be a 7600 with less cache and a better igpu?

[fair moon]

Not sure

[tawdry dragon]

I forgot that 7600 had an igpu

[fair moon]

Could see lower cpu clocks maybe? iirc the 5600G is considerably worse than the 5600

[azure pond]

Oh yeah for sure

That's mainly the cache though

[fair moon]

Oh ok

[azure pond]

5600g is a 5500 with an igpu

[tawdry dragon]

pcie 3.0 be like

[fair moon]

5500 similar to 3600 right?

[tawdry dragon]

I think so

[azure pond]

Eh

5500 is better, but side by side its not a huge difference

5500 close to 3600 than 5600

[fair moon]

Me personally is very excited for 5700x3d

I have 2 kinda barebones am4 systens, one at home and one at school (travel with gpu/cpu/storage). So upgrading to am5 kinda means 2 motherboard upgrades

Still doin alright with my 5600x for now though

[tawdry dragon]

That's what I like about my lga 1700 platform, I can get the worst of the worst, or the best of the best on the same motherboard.

Although I have a ddr4 board so that's a limitation

[azure pond]

@lapis parcel you gotta include price and description in the message

[lapis parcel]

ok sorry

[azure pond]

no youre good, just letting you know

[lapis parcel]

When did maingear start making laptops idk if ive ever seen one before

[jolly inlet]

It's fairly recent. Last couple years maybe?

[grand orbit]

@tawdry dragon lol out of stock already

Deffo typo

[tawdry dragon]

oh wow

that was fast

[grand orbit]

I'd say they set stock to 0 because meant 200$

[tawdry dragon]

lol, probably

[azure pond]

All oleds use the same panel, there's a new one on sale for $600

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011462

[grave delta]

Same panel? It can be either LG or Samsung

[azure pond]

I was told incorrectly then, my bad. Is one superior?

[jolly inlet]

Depends more on firmware tuning

There's some new ones coming this year too

https://youtu.be/GJf6iBDIyOc?si=HvHjfCZbkadcpBHU

4k240 soooon

39" WOLED ultrawide

[tawdry dragon]

My PC can't even do 1440p 120 😭

1440p 480hz intrigues me

[jolly inlet]

Yes it can, you're just not playing games that can

[tawdry dragon]

Boutta play AOE 1 max settings 🔥🔥🔥

Might be locked to 60hz though

[jolly inlet]

DLSS

Performance mode will get you at least 120 fps in almost any game

[fair moon]

Performance mode ain't worth 120hz ngl

Blurry ah mess while in motion

[daring depot]

you gonna need bare minimum 3080s sometime soon

[cloud hornet]

Minesweep is the easiest game to run and even a 4090 cant run it at >69fps on 1440p. So idk about that man.

[trim pier]

The only time you’re gonna get 300+ fps on 1440p ultra settings is when you got two 4090s hooked up to your monitor on Tetris

Your not gonna worry about the dusk stage and make it 10x difficult with the refresh rate being so fresh

[jolly inlet]

A lot of game engines won't even let you get over 300 fps

[normal spear]

fps that high kinda just becomes overkill on any pixel density unless you play pro, and even then its still overkill honestly

[trim pier]

Well there’s actual good things with such high frame monitors

Cause there was a video about the delay you see

But tbf it’s best on 1080p competitive

[azure pond]

I think we might see a transition to 1440p OLED being the go to for competitive play

[jolly inlet]

I'll take a 120hz OLED over any 480hz monitor

[thin bolt]

I’ve been stuck on 75hz for over 3 years

Moving to anything higher will make me happy

[severe jolt]

I've been stuck on 60hz for over 9 years

75 was a big jump from that

But I'd imagine that 100+ will be even bigger

[azure pond]

I mainly play valorant and would LOVE an oled

[tawdry dragon]

I was on 60hz most of my life, then I made kind of a stupid decision to buy an overpriced dell 1080p 120hz monitor, but it was the best playing experience that I had up to that point.

[severe jolt]

Yeah 120hz is a big jump if your GPU can do it

[tawdry dragon]

I had a 650 ti 😭

I was playing mc so it was alright

[severe jolt]

I had a 970M

And my screen was only 900p

[tawdry dragon]

I was running 720p 60hz on a 32" monitor/tv thing

that was before I got the 120hz monitor

[daring depot]

isnt that just a tv?

I used to play on one of those too

[tawdry dragon]

My main monitor now is a 32" 1440p 144hz monitor

[tawdry dragon]

32" 16:9 displays kind of border between monitor and tv imo

[thin bolt]

https://offerup.co/gHrq4992uGb

Like 30~% off

Not the best, but still something

[jolly inlet]

I feel like that boundary is a little closer to 40 inches

It's up to the individual, and it's one of those things you can change your mind on later

[thin bolt]

I’ve had a 32” tv at one point, and that felt big playing games on

[jolly inlet]

I play a lot of immersive games and the larger screens amplify that

[thin bolt]

Anything over 27” for just a one monitor setup feels strange

If you’re doing multiple monitors/business stuff, larger monitors are more understandable imo

[normal spear]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/ELEMENT-32-Class-720P-LED-HDTV-ELEFW328/33844084

Thats the tv i was stuck on until literally like 6 months ago lol

Now im rocking my 27" 1440p 180hz and i dont think i could ever go back 😭

[tawdry dragon]

Thing is, for a good 5-10 years my family used a 32" as a TV, so that's what I'm used to

[fleet marlin]

Plenty depending on seating distance of course. 27" was plenty in my bedroom, 32" was decent in my living room. No I would probably get 40-45", partly to "largen" stuff on screen a bit and not feel like needing binoculars at times.

[severe jolt]

I have a legitimate 32" LCD TV from like a decade ago

it's got massive bezels to make it look larger

[pallid geyser]

ooo that acer

[tawdry dragon]

My 32" Sceptre monitor's backlight went out

[jolly inlet]

You can usually replace that. But make sure it's fully discharged first, the light often uses AC current and will give you a good zap.

[high radish]

When whill newegg stop bundling up that trash ram kit

[jolly inlet]

When people buy it and it runs out of stock. Because it's a bundle option from low sales usually.

[high radish]

Lol . I have bunch of them and it's worst kit in the market I'd say

That heatsink literally does nothing. Ram heating up to 55-57C easily

[jolly inlet]

Even worse than the 2x8gb 4400 c40 kit?

[high radish]

Lol I comparing them to regular kits in market like teamgroup etc . Teamgroup kit sitting at 38C in same build that kit hits 57C

Btw teamgroup kits mostly decent this gen

[forest prairie]

What kit in question even

[high radish]

That ripjaws s5 kit newegg bundling all the time

[forest prairie]

I don't even remember what brand ripjaws is lol

[high radish]

g.skill

[forest prairie]

Ah

[dull flame]

Is the newest post on deals a scam?

[torpid night]

if you're talking about that "we like bonus" guy, more than likely yes

@bleak maple another one in #tech-deals

idk maybe not. feels like a weird bot

[azure pond]

@mortal blaze it's a scam

That seller has put up a lot of random listings of tech at odd, low prices to scam people

[mortal blaze]

yes, i think same 1

but if someone wish take risk 😋

[azure pond]

No.

[mortal blaze]

@azure pond u mean to delete, true?

[azure pond]

It's not a risk it is gauranteed a scam

Yes

[mortal blaze]

ok, dw!

i do it now

[azure pond]

Thanks

[mortal blaze]

ready 😁

srry for my english

[azure pond]

Oh your English was perfect, no worries

Oops

Anyone who gets mad at a non native English speaker for not knowing English properly is an idiot anyways

[trim pier]

@azure pond

6400 cl32

[azure pond]

Niceee

[stoic crest]

jeez

ballin

[trim pier]

so uh I may of read that wrong

gg's

it was actually C40 ;-;

[azure pond]

F

[tiny heron]

Anyone else having the issue when you use the $20 coupon on tiktok it says to use a different payment method. Wonder if they are starting to track people making new accounts 😅

[trim pier]

I’ve had that issue before

It’s just a glitch.

What you gotta do is either reset the whole thing or sign and out and sign in

[tiny heron]

I tried switching from one account to another. Not sure if that's the same as signing out. But I'll give that a go.

I tried my debit my credit and through zip and affirm. All said choose different payment method. I'm like damn they caught me 😂

[tawdry dragon]

I had that issue I think, try switching to another device

In BlueStacks you can make another instance which emulates a different phone

[proper folio]

Would?

[plucky crescent]

If you can see in person maybe but those are usually floor models but it isn’t oled so it shouldn’t be burned it or anything like

[turbid aurora]

Is there a way I can use my Amazon balance to buy something on Newegg

[jolly inlet]

Buy a Newegg gift card from Amazon?

[turbid aurora]

I looked for those but didn’t see them

[jolly inlet]

That was my only idea so 🤷‍♂️

[fair moon]

Can’t buy gift cards with Amazon balance

[jolly inlet]

So they say but there are a lot of third party sellers that might not categorize their items right to trigger that

[tiny heron]

Almost enough for a 7900xt 😏

[jolly inlet]

Hopefully we see the 7900 XT drop a bit in price with the new nvidia cards on the market. Then you'll be even closer.

[tiny heron]

Yeah going to keep trying to hold out and maybe go xtx

[quasi abyss]

or 4080 super 🙂

[cinder kiln]

Already down to that amazing price of 710, definitely in prep for that 4070ti super launch

The super tie

[tawdry dragon]

How'd you get that much gift card balance 💀

[shut spoke]

It’s crazy to think a Ti Super exists

[cinder kiln]

Super tie

[thin bolt]

Fighter

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-vader-darth-vader-tie-fighter-space-gif-14523503

[tiny heron]

Sorry busy day. But trading in abandoned phones from work and I get virtual visas from Samsung for selling their phones

[tawdry dragon]

ah alright

[tiny heron]

[thin bolt]

That sounds cracked
How tf do I get that job

[grand orbit]

Like from the lost and found box? 💀

[trim pier]

Hook me up???

Also I’m sure there’s a way for you to downpay on Amazon with certain cards

[velvet rock]

Who tf have you a gift card that much

[fair moon]

^

[tiny heron]

While I probably could make much more selling them privately, used marketplace is a headache.

[tiny heron]

Sort of. Everytime I work a different store there are phones that may have been supposed to be trade ins from years ago or no one knows why they are there or where they came from.

[fair moon]

If they're old enough it probably isn't worth it to sell used

[shut lava]

Less time spent per dollar gained.

[high radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904073551957614703/1003165002196340786/hattip-resize.gif

[jolly inlet]

But you also don't have to worry about the buyer trying to scam you

The scam is already upfront with the below-market-value offer

[shut lava]

You must be lucky and have experience have the top 1% of buyers of used electronics. LOL

Hlaf the people who message me on hardwareswap can't make up their mind if they actually want the item, then many want to haggle over a few dollars in the shipping cost of a $200+ item.

[tiny heron]

Amazon gave me $120 for a cracked front and back note 20 with pen missing.

[quasi pasture]

ikr, they have the mentality of a child when it comes to communication and their finances or something lmao

[tawdry dragon]

they'd give me that much for an s20 fe in mint condition lol

[shut lava]

Yes the "buyers" in hardwareswap have a skill issue with actually buying something without being annoying.

If I did that I wouldn't have any buyers there because most of them are bad ones.

They are no different thans ellign onlien anywhere else.

Yes my personal experiences of selling online for years are invalid and wrong because you didn't have the same experiences. lol

[trim pier]

hey ladies

stop bickering at eachother

[shut lava]

Butthurt? that's funny. I'm just calling you out on your BS of thinking that hardwareswap buyers are any different than any other online marketplace.

[trim pier]

shush 🤫 🧏

shush 🤫 🧏

[shut lava]

Reddit hardwareswap is no different than any other enthusiast hardware or electronics forum or marketplace.

[opal flume]

Ebay gonna send you the live spiders for that one

[shut lava]

They all have plenty of annoying buyers who can decide if they want to actually buy the item or just chat about it for a week, want to bicker over $2 or $3 in shipping charges on items that are $200 and up and so many lowball everyone for half the item's average selling price. To say hardwareswap is any better is an exaggeration.

I've had plenty of tire kickers on hardwareswap over the years. Quite a high ratio compared to serious buyers. Also plenty who ask 2 days after an item is listed "is it still available?" THen you respond that it is and they neevr reply back.

I view it no different than any other computer/gaming forum for slae section or online markerplace for comptuers or electronics. They are all the same.

Obviously we disagree and will never agree on it. In my experience its no different than anywhere else in terms of the amount of time and effort to sell something. You think its the easiest thing ever.

[cinder kiln]

This went off the rails at an interesting juncture

I think it be best if there's an agree to disagree here

[shut lava]

I tried #tech-deals-discussion message

[cinder kiln]

Try again

Disengage

[shut lava]

He is a hardwareswap mod so obviously he will disagree. lol

[cinder kiln]

Doesn't really matter if he was the king of france, I'd still say it

Lol

Not worth arguing over

Good lord, I don't think I've ever seen so many downvotes 💀

Rightfully so but jesus

[shut lava]

It needs more downvotes

[stoic crest]

the most downvoted deal ever

straight to the oblivion

[quasi pasture]

did it beat the record of that one time i posted an x99 board

[stoic crest]

i believe so

[quasi pasture]

sheeeesh

that makes my x99 deal posts valid

i should post some more for old times' sake

[shut lava]

That one?

[cinder kiln]

Valid huh

[quasi pasture]

Ultra valid

[stoic crest]

oh

that's

way too much

over 100

[cloud hornet]

What we actually need is a bad 3080Ti deal with 100 upvotes

[cinder kiln]

I'm more just impressed that seemingly 19 or more people were so disappointed they were unified enough to downvote it 19 times equally

[stoic crest]

[jolly inlet]

Finally Epic has another decent game for free. It's been a month since anything worth considering dropped.

[fair moon]

Prolly spent $$$ on the winter holiday giveaway

Outer Worlds, destiny 2 collection, saints row, guardians of the galaxy, ghost runner, fallout 3

[thin bolt]

Welcome to the addiction

[fair moon]

I actually played destiny 2 a few years ago

Like up to shadowkeep I think?

[thin bolt]

Completely different game now

Prepare to learn everything

[jolly inlet]

Not in a good way I've heard. They fired most of the community support team right after that team won awards.

They started bleeding players and the latest expansion was mid (so I heard)

[thin bolt]

It was layoff times for the industry
As much as I hated the layoff, a majority of the layoffs were from very old positions

Also that is true, which basically guaranteed that layoff was going to happen

Sony has a grip on their business and they ain’t letting go again

Which is going to cost them greatly

[keen marsh]

Support team for current games + the whole team for Blizzards Survival game that was still being worked on until literally today = old positions?

Oh wait, Bungie layoffs, not Xbox layoffs

[keen marsh]

I'll sell you my 3080 ti for a 1500$ /s

[azure pond]

I'll do that if you buy my 3060 ti for $1000

[keen marsh]

Eww 8gb vram

[pulsar fable]

I bet the 12gb of vram on my non ti 3060 will bring up the price
/s

[keen marsh]

3060 ti 16gb vram when

[pulsar fable]

Replace the ram modules yourself

[keen marsh]

Too much effort. Would rather let Nvidia charge me 200$ extra for it.

[fair moon]

I seriously can't believe Nvidia put only 8gb of vram on a 1080p/lower end 1440p card 😡😡 it's not going to be FuTuRe PrOoF so I'm going to buy a 3060 instead 😤😤

[azure pond]

I'm really curious what they were thinking with the 4060

Their entire selling point on the 3060 was its vram

Now the 4060 is the same performance with less vram

At the same price

It's just plain funny

[cinder kiln]

Then they release the 4060ti 16gb

Just look how bad that value is

[azure pond]

Value before 40 series launch across the board was so much better

[cinder kiln]

Having your whole low end on the high side of that chart is noooot a good thing

[cloud hornet]

Mid end, low end is 4050

[cinder kiln]

4050 sells as a desktop card now?

[cloud hornet]

But then again, 4060Ti is technically XX50 tier (no, I will never let this die)

[cinder kiln]

Can I actually just say. If 4050 dropped at like

240?

250?

It wouldn't be too bad

Maybe less, 220?

4050m isn't that bad at all

[lofty moss]

the world needs cheap 1080p gpus

[cinder kiln]

It really does

They're leaving us

[lofty moss]

6gb vram fine at 1080p

[cinder kiln]

[cloud hornet]

Dont think so, but Nvidia is marketing their lowest end available Ada as mid end.

[cinder kiln]

In a way yes

It is mid end

[lofty moss]

put one a them in my pc yes please

[azure pond]

4060 already performs around 2070

[cinder kiln]

My new pfp

[azure pond]

4050 would at best be 2060s

[cinder kiln]

2060s would be perfect for near 220-240

Cos added rt perf

[azure pond]

Ehhh

[cinder kiln]

If anyone asks why I'm a tractor now, tell them it's the new rtx 4050 ti super

[azure pond]

6650xt was that price at 2070 super performance what, 2 and a half years ago?

[cloud hornet]

$220 3050?

[azure pond]

If 4050 comes out around 2060-2060s performance, max $180 imo

[cinder kiln]

3050 is no where near 2060s

3060 is near 2060s

[azure pond]

3050 is around 1660s/1070

Iirc

[trim pier]

How is that gonna fit in my pc

[cinder kiln]

It's fitting rn

Just look at it

It's right there

Inside your screen

[cinder kiln]

Almost back to sub 2500 maximum performance
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wYnQMV

Oh I guess if you do a 1tb drive it gets there
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JqcfRK

[fair moon]

From what I've seen on Reddit, the xx60 copers have shifted from "moar vram, FuTuRe PrOoF" to "better dlss/frame gen/RT"

Though there does seem to be less sentiment for the 4060 than 3060 (thankfully)

[keen marsh]

Yeah. The only real improvements over those are RT performance and VR cause vram iirc

Like 3050 is an okay VR GPU depending on your games. Some of the most popular VR titles like beat saber, blade and sorcery, Skyrim VR, and super hot are fine on it, but you'd be better off with anything else from Nvidias Line Up.

Like, no reason to get the 3050 with the 3060's current price. Especially not a new 3050

[cinder kiln]

Eh I could agree with 200 maybe

The brands don't really want to go so low tho

6600xt is 240 rn

I'm sorta taking it from a current snapshot

Like if you ask me what it really be worth, well, 5700XT is pretty nice near 120 used

Very true, huge change in the last few gens

[cloud hornet]

inb4 random company like Moore Threads saves us from death of RGB monopoly

[opal flume]

Gamers must seize the memes of gpu production, then we can truly be free to express our smug superiority over our builds

[jolly inlet]

Mmm yes the memes must be seized

[lofty moss]

interesting take, but i think it goes a layer deeper, in that the expectations are being set that people need the luxury of a 1500 dollar GPU to play modern video games, when in reality im sitting here using an 8 year old gpu, and the median PC gamer should be as well

we dont all get to play games at max settings, and thats how its supposed to be

[azure pond]

it's because nvidia has abandonded the low end

the 3050, 3060, and 4060 have all been terrible value

[cinder kiln]

I expect games to release on low settings on all 90 cards in the future

[lofty moss]

note the part where i said 8 year old gpu

[cinder kiln]

And to have 96gb vram by 2027

[azure pond]

no i know

im saying it's become this way because of how bad value most lower end cards have been

[lofty moss]

i do agree with that

[azure pond]

though it started before that

I'd say around 20 series is when that mindset transition happened

30 series made it worse, and the shortage

it would have been so nice to see 2080 super performance selling for 400

now we see 2080 super performance selling at 350-450

3 years later

[lofty moss]

i think people should be buying used gpus

[azure pond]

100%

[lofty moss]

i actually disagree with the idea that nvidia should be selling a 4010, 4030, 4040, 4050, thats just ewaste tbh

leave that market for intel 🤣

[forest prairie]

igpu

[lofty moss]

bring back igpu gaming

[azure pond]

agreed, but 4060 shouldnt be the same performance as the 3060

3050 shouldnt lose to 2060

[lofty moss]

marketing moment

[forest prairie]

3050 should beat 2070 :)

[azure pond]

3060 should've at least been 2070s performance

4060 should've at least been 2080s

[fleet marlin]

1060 was the last 60 tier I actually saw close to previous gen 80 tier. (of course current 3 most recent gens have also had a huge spread of performance

[forest prairie]

2060 was eq. to 1080

that's pretty good

[azure pond]

thought 1070 was?

[forest prairie]

1070 is not eq. to 1080

lol but I think it's 1080 ~ 2060 from what I remember verifying a few times

[azure pond]

hm ive been wrong for a long time then lol

[thin bolt]

We need a chart

For equals in all categories and brands

[fair moon]

#graphics-cards message

[cinder kiln]

That needs an update

Actually that really needs an update

Didn't realise half the new gen isn't there lol

[jolly inlet]

Bug @flat wind to put the sheet on Google docs so techies can edit

[forest prairie]

okay

@@@@@@@@ demonmit1

[west grotto]

@azure pond whats the combo that leads to 483??

[azure pond]

7800x3d strix b650e (I think?) And 32gb g.skill ddr5

No not strix

It's a gigabyte b650m

Oh it's the ds3h

Ew

I'd spend a bit more for another

[flat wind]

oof, its almost been a year since i updated that

i should do that eventually

but its a lot of work

and super refresh is coming soon

probably will wait for that

[azure pond]

I could help with it, possibly felix and some others here as well who'd be willing to (not volunteering felix or anyone else, there's just probably some people open to)

I know what beats what so it shouldn't take too too long

[hoary nebula]

Desperately searching for eligible items to add to cart to bring up the total to $25

[flat wind]

its not my opinion, its data. it takes time to go grab the numbers and put them in a sheet and do the work

[azure pond]

Ah I thought it was just a spread sheet. I could still help, but I'd be less helpful than I thought lol

[thin bolt]

On what

[hoary nebula]

I'm trying to buy just 3 phantek halos since they're on sale for dirt cheap - but I don't want to pay shipping. I'm trying to find something I want from the list of items that will bring my cart total high enough to eliminate the shipping charge

[stoic crest]

how much is the shipping tho

[hoary nebula]

5.80

[stoic crest]

i don't think buying $25 of stuff is worth it for free shipping

unless you actually have something to justify that

like a fan of two

[hoary nebula]

It is if I was going to buy the stuff later anyway!

[cinder kiln]

Tower cooler

Headset

Mouse

Face cam

Idk

They sell eggs on newegg, buy some of those

[high radish]

is that monitor decent ?

I see color gamut is only 100% srgb

[stoic crest]

it's just another decent value gigabyte gaming monitor

not exactly marketed for color production

[high radish]

Yeah can't complain about it but I think acer one for 170$ were better deal ?

This one was 170$ few days ago

[azure pond]

G27q better, but both good deals

[high radish]

Alright I still being lucky with Acer so

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

[severe jolt]

1070 Ti can be OCd to 99% of a 1080

if my memory serves right

[fair moon]

Ti tho not base 1070

[hoary nebula]

I stayed up all night trying to find items that were "eligible for free shipping" that I wanted, or thought were a good value, and I came up with nothing, and ate the shipping cost for the item I did want

[light holly]

slacker

❤️

[cloud hornet]

What??? You didnt make a program that automatically pulls all the data to put into a spreadsheet???? Smh my head I thought you was techie. ||/s||

[forest prairie]

sounds about right but yeah that's Ti as well

[grand orbit]

@tiny dirge please just say the real price rather than whats its discounted at, makes it look like a 30$ psu :D

[tiny dirge]

changed it

[grand orbit]

thanks

[azure pond]

13400f and 3050 at $770 and 13700f and 3060 at $1000 are both ass value

[jolly inlet]

Help
Bought open box PC and the box was closed shut

False advertising

[cinder kiln]

Demand refund

Wage war on store

[pallid geyser]

It also gives an option to put in email on that VA monitor to get 5% off

So that brings it down to $128ish

[cinder kiln]

No other business name inspires me like "MOVE SPEED" does

50% epic

[tawdry dragon]

I mean, reviews are good

[trim pier]

The move speed sitting in my pocket, ready to explode any second once I press the button:

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-gif-11339234860235694668

[tawdry dragon]

worst reviews that I saw were that it didn't work, or bricked their device

[thin bolt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155743279881

This any good or a deal?

[stoic crest]

it's fine

[azure pond]

A 500gb hard drive at $15 is not a deal.

Small size hdds like that typically fail faster and are older. No company is still manufacturing that small of an hdd. I doubt 1tb even is atp

[uneven mango]

I'm no longer buying HDDs with SSD prices as low as they are.

[jolly inlet]

I only bought my latest HDD because I couldn't find a 14TB SSD in my budget but the HDD was $200.

[azure pond]

Yeah hdds only make sense 4tb+

[tawdry dragon]

I overcompensate for everything, I don't like hdds because I feel like they'll die quickly, I also like overcooling everything

[forest prairie]

Just move to Alaska

More cooling

[tawdry dragon]

alaska has slower internet

[forest prairie]

You win some you lose some

[jolly inlet]

I have a 1TB HDD in my current active desktop that has a manufacture date in 2014

(yes it gets backed up regularly)

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah honestly I'd be terrified if I had that

I'd rather spend $100 on a 2tb ssd

[jolly inlet]

It's mostly for cold storage of old photos, videos, documents, app data, etc.

[forest prairie]

I need to build some storage

[pulsar fable]

I'm pretty sure we can get 1tb per $10 drives. Not sure 500gb for $17 is that good a deal

[azure pond]

500gb for 17 is dismal value

4tb was like $55 for a good while, might still be

[pallid geyser]

i'll give you $0.50

take it or leave it

[pulsar fable]

Well at least refurb server drives are still cheap, even if they have (probably) 20k-50k hours on them
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H4YV359

[jolly inlet]

Cheapest cost per GB drive on pcpp right now at $0.14 per GB
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H289S7C?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

Or if you prefer, $14 per TB

These too https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08K98VFXT?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DHY61JP?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[azure pond]

The funniest part is 500gb sata ssds were $20-22 a few months ago

I'd know cause I bought one

And an nvme around the same price

Hell I got a 1tb m450 on amazon for $28.

Let alone the deals on tiktok shop

[forest prairie]

I got 1tb somsang for 40 but that was used lol

[azure pond]

1tb 980 non pro is like $57 right now

[jolly inlet]

Pretty recently 2TB NVMe were $50 but that ship has sailed

[azure pond]

Yeah, I'm happy I got my p41 plus 2tb for $30

[fair moon]

the chip factories are scaling back production I think

[azure pond]

I have plenty of storage now

plenty

Between mine and my partners pc I have 6tb of ssd storage, 1tb I'm using for a future build, and a 2tb crucial external ssd I sold to my brother

All of which I got on sales

[forest prairie]

I need more storage, right after storage prices go up

[azure pond]

Hdd or ssd?

And how much do you need?

[jolly inlet]

The fabs are booked 3 years in advance. The big consumers of TSMC chips like Nvidia and AMD ordered far too many thinking the shortage would go on much longer than it did. They then had to sell that extra fab time they didn't use at a steep discount to someone and that mostly went to storage devices, increasing the supply and lowering the overall cost resulting in less price to consumers.
Now, there's another boom going on with AI so Nvidia and AMD are using the fab time that they had booked 3 years ago to make AI compute units that they sell wholesale for $10k each.

[forest prairie]

both

[azure pond]

P41 plus 2tb still fairly cheap on tiktok

$90 and can put a coupon on it

1tb sn770 $55

[jolly inlet]

That 18TB Exos drive is CMR and 7200 rpm. They're also known to be fairly reliable. It's only $280. (If your answer to how much storage you need is really "yes all the storage")

[fair moon]

If you need ssds I'd grab em now, pretty sure prices are forecasted to rise more

[jolly inlet]

Indood

[pulsar fable]

Finally, I can download half my steam library

[jolly inlet]

Hmm, my steam library seems to have gotten smaller since I last looked... It was almost 700 before but down to 611 now. Has steam been removing older games or something?

I had about 20 games installed when I took this snip

Yeah no I'm missing about 10 of my star wars games and a half dozen 40k games

wtf steam

[fleet marlin]

Reminds me when Epic and whoever completely delisted the whole Unreal Tournament series.

[cloud hornet]

U sure it wasnt just stuff moving categories, like games to tools?

[jolly inlet]

I'm pretty sure Star wars dark forces 2 isn't in my tools

[cinder kiln]

Inb4 tool of entertainment

[hoary nebula]

Newegg doesn't refund the difference if an item is discounted while it's shipping to you, huh?

[cinder kiln]

If you bought it at a set price you should get the set price back

Usually without shipping factored in

If you received less than you paid for the item, that's an error

But not if it's only discounting shipping

[hoary nebula]

I might need to clarify. An Item I bought has gone on sale for $10 cheaper since I bought it, while it's still in transit

[cinder kiln]

You should still be refunded the item price

Not the discount price

[stoic crest]

In my experience such refunds after purchases aren't applicable, the kind that gives you discounts

[cinder kiln]

To clarify

Whatever you paid for the item, will be the refund

Not the current going price

If that's not what happens, contact them immediately for the error

And again, this should not include shipping in the refund

[hoary nebula]

I'm not talking about getting a refund, I'm talking about newegg price-matching itself and returning to me the difference in price

[cinder kiln]

Oh you mean like

[stoic crest]

Nah, that doesn't happen

[cinder kiln]

It went on sale after you bought it ye?

[hoary nebula]

ye

[cinder kiln]

Nah they don't do that

[hoary nebula]

Boo and hiss

[cinder kiln]

They'd be pretty magical if they did...lol

[hoary nebula]

Best Buy does it

[stoic crest]

Almost all places I think only price match before purchases

Not after

[cinder kiln]

Man no shops do that here

[stoic crest]

Same

[cinder kiln]

Not a single store I've been to in my country

US don't know how good they get it sometimes

💀

[stoic crest]

^

i just feel sad about it, or cancel my order and get refunded

then buy again

at the discounted price

[azure pond]

https://serverpartdeals.com/products/toshiba-mg-series-mg07aca14te-14tb-7-2k-rpm-sata-6gb-s-512e-3-5-refurbished-hdd

[civic sun]

slightly tempting as a backup disk

[stoic crest]

tbh $16 for 500gb hdd seems cheap, but it isn't compared to sata ssd

[jolly inlet]

Considering those enterprise drivers are rated at what, 2.5 million hours? Yeah that's decent

[stoic crest]

but for the toshiba

good price

[civic sun]

some devices can only get so cheap

[jolly inlet]

I'll explain once you can tell me why a mile is 5280 feet

Seems legit

[stoic crest]

it's the length of one ford f-150 duh

[jolly inlet]

Now, without a calculator, how many feet are in 5/8 of a mile? Because 5/8 KM is easy, 625M.

(yes I tacked on a riff about our school system with the "without calculator")

[fair moon]

https://www.rd.com/article/why-5280-feet-in-mile/
Tldr: Romans had 1000 paces (5000 feet) in a mile, then the British made it 8 furlongs (8*660ft=5280)

[jolly inlet]

Ok but why? It could have been anything else.

[cinder kiln]

the british interfered is why

[jolly inlet]

It's bad enough we have rulers that show an inch as being different measurements

I guess one is to show off with

[cloud hornet]

hotdog measuring contest

[high radish]

Metric system is much better than measuring thing with feets foots arms legs etc lmao

[stoic crest]

it's an ancient standard so

bound to have flaws

[jolly inlet]

Ancient people were smaller than modern people too

[fleet marlin]

Rather have 1L of fuel or 1 Gallon?

[cinder kiln]

the problem is not even that it's ancient

it's that it's been rewritten 100x and still used while being ancient

reject imperial, join the base 10 metric system

[fleet marlin]

Superior gang can use both.

[cinder kiln]

too hard

just embrace the ez life

[cloud hornet]

I will never understand why governments dont outlaw imperial. Imperial needs death penalty

[cinder kiln]

everything is 0-100 or 0-10

base 10 time of day when

[fleet marlin]

What's 98.6F in Celsius?

[pulsar fable]

If the rest of the US used metric i would gladly switch

sadly that attempt failed in the 80s and we only have one highway to show for it

[cinder kiln]

idfk

stop making me google things

[cinder kiln]

you have a lone highway with a metric speed limit?

[pulsar fable]

100F = sick. Thats all its good for

[pulsar fable]

somewhere in the middle of nowhere. The US Government tried enacting a bill to replace imperial freedom units with metric

however, and stay with me on this, it gained severe backlash by anti-metric groups

some of which called the switch to be a ""communist thing""

https://www.geographyrealm.com/the-only-metric-highway-in-the-united-states/

...oh

it was the metric board, not an act

and it was disbanded by Ronald Reagan

[cinder kiln]

lmfao

that looks so normal to me

[pulsar fable]

so he wasnt just content with "trickle down economics" ;-;

[cinder kiln]

and yet looks like communism to americans

[fleet marlin]

Eh, not much farther than 500 yards.

[cinder kiln]

lil bit

[pulsar fable]

anything americans don't like is "communism"

[jolly inlet]

Have you ever seen a road sign measured in yards though

[cinder kiln]

oh yeah you guys do like

0.5mi

[fleet marlin]

Point was I can think of 500m as 500 yards and the distance isn't much different. Isn't different enough to matter that is. It's an exit.

[pulsar fable]

as per google: "1 meter is about 1.09 yards."

we were this close

[cinder kiln]

ur yards are small

ours are a good few hundred meters

no room for the dogs or anything smh

[fleet marlin]

Ur?

[pulsar fable]

would also help the whole quantifying* big objects problem

how does telling me an asteroid is the size of 101 dalmations helpful??

[fleet marlin]

#tech-deals-discussion message

[cinder kiln]

ur

[pulsar fable]

oh damn i didnt even realize. uh

so you seen the new TI Super?

who came up with that name?

[jolly inlet]

Right? I'm going to need that in bananas to be useful at all

[fair moon]

yes F is good for temps humans often experience

0 = really cold
100 = really hot

[torpid night]

Yes fr

I don't get why I also have to continuously argue it

[fair moon]

it's not perfect (guessing most people would agree 68 is a lot more comfortable than 32) but it works alright

[stoic crest]

470 for 7800xt?

kinda bleh considering 4070s exists

but it's a healthy discount still

[modest wagon]

I really wanted to order from newegg, but the shipping to AK is ridiculous...everything is labled Free Shipping, then click on smol disclaimer and bam, costs added to AK, I get some sellers have to, but it was every item I was interested in...tbh, I sadly won't be using newegg anytime soon, found what I wanted for 10$ cheaper no less with shipping included elsewhere, won't say, but its safe to assume which one....I was LF a 1440p 165hz monitor...also I was very interested in a refurbished GPU as the price is very good, but then get hit with that shipping, being I live in Anchorage, not some rural area, it just doesn't make sense in 2023/24.... GG, I used newegg in the past for a combo deal and was not hit with shipping, idk why its different now, this was 4yrs ago when I built my sons PC...oh well...

[stoic crest]

this server is the community side if anything

so you can shop anywhere

[cinder kiln]

would love to tell you that you'd be heard mate but we're all volunteers, no one here works for them

we often tell people to shop for the best deal, not just newegg

like

everywhere

[torpid night]

this guy really thought he did something 💀

yeah that's right. absolutely everybody in this server works for Discord and we just lost a customer

[jolly inlet]

I have no loyalty to the company either, I'm here for the community. I'll gladly post an amazon link instead of a newegg one at the same price because they do have faster shipping.

[cinder kiln]

I'm not loyal too

but

if they sent me a contract

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-press-priest-red-button-tempted-afraid-gif-5712598

[jolly inlet]

You want that special "Staff" role?

https://tenor.com/view/pitbull-happy-smiling-teehee-doggo-gif-15868225

[cinder kiln]

[azure pond]

Worth posting? https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-Monitor-FreeSync-Premium-E275B-QPD168/dp/B097G21FHC/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=1440p%2B27%2Binch%2Bmonitor&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&refinements=p_6%3AATVPDKIKX0DER&sr=8-7&th=1

[jolly inlet]

Sentiments around that one are that it's a solid 4/5 for the price. OSD is basic but it's quite usable overall. I'd say yes that's good at $175.

[marsh sphinx]

@azure pond Can I ask you a quick question if you don't mind?

[azure pond]

Of course

[marsh sphinx]

Am looking for a monitor. Atleast 23 Inches, atleast 165 hertz and a budget of $100-$130(can go a little over) with Internal Speakers built in

I have a monitor, if you want to see it

Unless you have a better option for me

[azure pond]

Either that asus one you linked in the other chat or this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3zKscf/benq-mobiuz-ex240-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-ex240

That's more "premium" but honestly $30 extra on a 1080p screen is a bit odd

It depends what you value and if you plan to upgrade your gpu soon

Speaking of, what gpu are you on again?

[marsh sphinx]

I got a 4060, Intel I5 13600F

I bought a IbuyPower PC

regular price was $1200

I got it for $600 brand ndw

[azure pond]

Do you alr have it?

Oh ok

Mb

[marsh sphinx]

All good

Walmart near me was closing

they were doing a 50% off sale

[azure pond]

Was gonna say, 4070 build for $1200 in tech deals lol

[marsh sphinx]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Slate-6-Mesh-Gaming-Desktop-Intel-i5-13600KF-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4060-16GB-DDR5-1TB-NVMe-SSD-Liquid-Cooled-RGB-Windows-11-Home-64-bit-SlateM/5001803453?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=3524&sourceid=dsn_ad_505c8d87-ffca-4490-8e08-8d74e40af541&veh=dsn&wmlspartner=dsn_ad_505c8d87-ffca-4490-8e08-8d74e40af541&cn=FY24-Q4WTYW-Q4WTYWJanuary-PMAX_cnv_dps_dsn_dis_ad_xcat_s_n&gclsrc=aw.ds&wl9=pla&wl11=local&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJX8yijSv52qM2UiI_ADh_fIbJeek_wy0LfXu2hrN1q9XA1CTiloJ0qhoCbQcQAvD_BwE

[azure pond]

Then yeah 1080p is the right choice, unless you plan to upgrade gpu within the year

[marsh sphinx]

4060

Did I get a good deal btw?

[azure pond]

If you do plan to upgrade it wouldn't be a bad idea to spend some more for 1440p

Yeah thats solid

Better than anything else around the price

[marsh sphinx]

So the walmart is 1080p correct?

[azure pond]

Ibuypower tends to be on the worse end of pre build quality, but at that price it's still great value. Just would recommend checking the psu, cpu Temps, etc

[azure pond]

Yeah

[marsh sphinx]

CPU temps are good, everything is mostly good. Except needs more ram, and can't check the PSU

[azure pond]

If you want better image quality and likely better speakers, the BenQ one

[azure pond]

Why not?

[marsh sphinx]

Doesnt look like a PSU, looks like a prebuilt PSU

[azure pond]

Also ye 16gb ddr5 is not fun

[azure pond]

Ah. That's fun

Then I'd say it's fine for a 4060 but swap it when you upgrade gpus

32gb silicon power 6000c30 at $95 is good value

[marsh sphinx]

Of course, If I was to sell it how much would it go for? Its literally brand new, never been turned on except to install windows, box and everything included

[azure pond]

With ram swap I'd say around 800-1200 depending on the buyer

Without ram swap 700-1150 (high end of the price is people who don't really know what they're looking at)

[marsh sphinx]

sounds good

[thin bolt]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m87507985282?sv=0

[stoic crest]

bleh

[brisk sphinx]

You can get a 6600 new for $160, that 1660 is pretty bleh

[azure pond]

What, you can?

Last I saw they were all $200

[jolly inlet]

This one? It's a scam https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09J2NCD2L?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
This is the seller, all the classic signs https://www.amazon.com/sp?ie=UTF8&seller=A1MHUS0J0346MU&isAmazonFulfilled=0&asin=B09J2NCD2L&ref_=olp_merch_name_0

[brisk sphinx]

Ahh, I just saw prices on pcpp didn’t actually look at the listing

[thin bolt]

https://www.newegg.com/p/27N-008H-00001

[quasi pasture]

hot take

i have a 6TB hdd in my daily

apparently thats crazy in this server now ig

https://tenor.com/view/blake-snell-gif-14295965

[azure pond]

Why is that a crazy take

[quasi pasture]

people earlier saying stuff about ssds and hdds

im too lazy to explain

[azure pond]

Felix was saying 6tb of ssd is unecesary yes

I didn't spell that right

[quasi pasture]

WHO IS TES

[wispy fern]

ok

haven't done anything to my hdd yet

lol

4TB nvme suffering

[quasi pasture]

🥶

[hoary nebula]

What do you all think of this?
https://www.newegg.com/addlink-2tb-s93/p/0D9-00VZ-00032?Item=9SIBPBKK210839&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

[wispy fern]

i feel like transferring some files just to save some space on that nvme

maybe a game that even with an hdd still has adequate load times

[azure pond]

I'd grab this instead

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BvD4D/silicon-power-ud90-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp04kgbp44ud9005

Or if you have tiktok shop there's some great options there, one sec

P41 plus 2tb is $90 and you can add a coupon on top of that

For 4tb I gotta check

Ah nothing for 4tb looks like mp33 pro and mp34 4tb are oos

They were $160-180

[hoary nebula]

But that one is slooooowww

[cinder kiln]

Why is it slow

[hoary nebula]

Isn't that what the specs say for max sequential read and write? The Addlink one is 7400/6500, and the Silicon Power one is 5000/4500

[cinder kiln]

So when they put those numbers on the box

They say "up to"

And every single time, this means speeds within the first 30 seconds or a read or write operation

When they slow down, most ssd's throttle down to about the same speed after that 30 second burst

For anything like, large movie file copying, video editing and scrubbing, torrenting, you'll notice a bit of a difference in raw speed, but in real world performance?

If I told you these two perform very similar, would you be surprised?

[hoary nebula]

I guess not

[cinder kiln]

Apart from the numbers they put on the box, they're both strong mid range gen 4's

So the experience you'll have between them should be very similar

There's way more to an ssd apart from read and write speed of a single file

Which is what that number is

When you're moving a whole folder of stuff, they don't copy that fast

There's a whole other side to them, in iops performance, random performance, high density performance

Stuff that's not on the box

Sorry if I sound like I'm grilling, not trying to

[hoary nebula]

Ugh, so I have to go look at reviews

[cinder kiln]

Trying to teach lol

Yeah

The overall impressions of both are similar tier of performance

I will say this

[cinder kiln]

If you plan to use the drive for anything not this above

Then going for the fastest of the fast will net milliseconds of your time over days

It's really not worth it

Sticking to good budget options can get you that 99% without spending 50% more

[azure pond]

I mean, if it's just being used for game storage it's irrelevant anyways

[cinder kiln]

Pretty much

[thin bolt]

@cinder kiln what’s the best 48GB ram (2x24) with that RGB line at the top? Making a build for a friend and he wants black and RGB everywhere

[azure pond]

P41 plus while not the fastest is actually really good. If you've two open nvme slots the 2tb is well priced on tt shop

[cinder kiln]

The difference between a great gen 4 and a normal sata ssd in games can be as much as a couple tenths of a second

[thin bolt]

Just wanna make sure I’m not making a mistake

[cinder kiln]

What's the pc for

[thin bolt]

Editing 1080 video and video games

[cinder kiln]

What resolution is the pc

Like what cpu gpu

[thin bolt]

I think he has a 4K capable monitor and a 7800x3d and 4070

[cinder kiln]

I'd do 32

And if he hasn't bought the 4070, go 4070 super

Huge upgrade

Worth the extra from the ram

1000%

[thin bolt]

I’ll replace that

What ram do you suggest then

Black and RGB is his ask

[cinder kiln]

These are good

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LTcG3C/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-ff3d532g5600hc32dc01

The pictures never do them justice

They look way better irl

[thin bolt]

Sweet. Just fits the budget

Thank you

[cinder kiln]

Yeah

Get him to 4070S

By any means

Except psu

Keep psu good

[azure pond]

If what he does is multi core focused 14600k might be better value at $300

[thin bolt]

That might be a good idea

I’ll ask him if I can make the switch

[azure pond]

Pg sonic wifi is $130 last I checked

[thin bolt]

@azure pond turns out that he needs 48GB
Could I set him up for just a Corsair vengeance or something

Won’t tell me why he needs it

[cinder kiln]

He doesn't

and no

vengeance sucks ass

what's his budget

[thin bolt]

$1,100

[cinder kiln]

i'll make something

[thin bolt]

He has a 4070, going to trade it in for a super

[azure pond]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RV4Zxr/gskill-ripjaws-s5-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-f5-6400j3239f24gx2-rs5k

No actually good rgb options honestly

[thin bolt]

No trident z5?

[cinder kiln]

trident z5 is honestly one of the worst d5 options to work with

unless you buy the 8000+ kits, don't.

[thin bolt]

God I suck at ram stuff

[cinder kiln]

vengeance is worse

tbf

but teamgroup is goated

v color

lexar

adata

silicon power

[thin bolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wMV2FT/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-48-gb-2-x-24-gb-ddr5-7200-cl34-memory-ff4d548g7200hc34adc01

?

[cinder kiln]

won't work on b760 and on amd that's worse

than 6000

[thin bolt]

[cinder kiln]

mclk desync

[azure pond]

I'd honestly just not go rgb if going 48gb

[cinder kiln]

makes anything between 6400 & 8000 basically terrible

[azure pond]

32gb its an extra $5-15

48gb its an extra $70

[thin bolt]

Alr
So no RGB for him

Got it

[cinder kiln]

how much is his 4070 worth to the budget

[thin bolt]

Already got it

[cinder kiln]

i know

I mean for trade in value

is it a return