tech-deals-discussion

[cinder kiln]

jeeez

any idea on what panel that is?

I'm guessing same panel as M32UC but you never know

[azure pond]

Nah I've not a clue, I just found out how to check what stuff costs me with my employee discount and saw that sale

Which apparently there's really nothing that is cheaper with my discount than it's sale price

[dense lichen]

since it's $100 off, i should just bite the bullet and buy this 7950x3d, right? riiight? xD

[azure pond]

Ehh

If you need the cores and gaming performance sure

If just gaming 7800x3d at $370 100% of the time

[velvet rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102969702875156/1175797770288906330/Screenshot_20231119_085920_TikTok.jpg?ex=656c8a01&is=655a1501&hm=846906919f9695de4f4b0c0824bddfda5c3621bc43f08adbd2c59472b4669b83&

I don’t see this?

I see $99.99

[pallid geyser]

I can't even find it on there

doesn't show up for me

TTS is a jumbled up mess rn

absolutely wouldn't bother with it if it weren't for the great pricing '

[tiny heron]

I just looked up "aoc monitor" just now and it's the first result

You can also click the "black friday filter" to thin the results a bit

[tawdry dragon]

Is it worth paying an extra $100 or so to get a 3080ti over a 3080?

[jolly inlet]

No

It's about 3% difference in performance

Considering the 3090 is about 5% over the 3080

[tawdry dragon]

Not just gaming, 3d rendering and such

[jolly inlet]

How large are the renders

Will they fill a 10GB VRAM buffer? It takes a rather large project to do that

[tawdry dragon]

It's close, and also ai stuff which takes a ton of vram

[jolly inlet]

Yeah AI you want as much VRAM as you can get

3080 12GB model might be the move

[tawdry dragon]

Same price as 3080ti in most cases iirc

[cinder kiln]

not really for $100

unless you can offset that extra in earnings fast

not for 2gb

[tawdry dragon]

I just don't want to be limited by vram

[jolly inlet]

Then get a 3090

[tawdry dragon]

$300 more than 3080

[cinder kiln]

it's still not a huge justification for a TI

[tawdry dragon]

True, but it's basically a 3090 with half the vram

[cinder kiln]

oh hey, run out at ten, and if you run out at twelve?

[jolly inlet]

If this concerns you then VRAM clearly isn't as important as value

[cinder kiln]

at that point, get a quadro

[tawdry dragon]

I mean, fair

[tawdry dragon]

this is a build with some parts that I have laying around, any changes I should make? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnzNvj

[azure pond]

Looks perfect

[tawdry dragon]

👍

might add a cooler tho

[azure pond]

If you dont have the ssd only possible thing is 670p with a coupon on tiktok shop

But idk if that's still in stock

[tawdry dragon]

from what I've seen this is the cheapest 2tb ssd rn (apart from ms30 sata)

price rn for me

[azure pond]

Mp34 tier drive

Maybe a tiny bit better than m371?

Same difference

[tawdry dragon]

but not 2tb

If I really wanted a good drive i'd get this

[azure pond]

Oh was that m371 2tb?

Sorry I missed that

[tawdry dragon]

yeah

[azure pond]

Yeah mb

[tawdry dragon]

all good

how much do you think I could sell that pc for?

[azure pond]

On the low end 750

High high end 1100

[tawdry dragon]

in my area the cheapest 3070 pc is $1000, and it's a prebuilt

[azure pond]

I'd say 925 would be a pretty normal starting price but maybe your local market people are willing to pay more

[tawdry dragon]

In my area most people don't know about pc's it seems

the last pc I sold people kept wanting to trade a ps5 for it

[azure pond]

If they'll pay it, it's not like you're really taking advantage of them. They're going to spend the money whether you sell it to them or not

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah maybe, but for now I need to save up for a few other things before I buy this pc, namely christmas presents

might have to add a new case and fans before I sell it tho bc the ones that I have were used for about 2 years, and even though I've cleaned them thoroughly they're still not in the best condition

how does the h6 flow already have 32k reviews?

it's been out for not even 3 weeks

ah wait nvm

[jolly inlet]

Yeah they do that to piggyback off the existing reviews. A common scam is to take a well reviewed item and replace it with a scam item. That's why you'll sometimes see reviews that have nothing to do with the product on the page.

[tawdry dragon]

Yeah, I see it happen all the time, but it is what it is

[daring depot]

I forgot this company even existed, but has anyone heard of the company Vaio?

It's a Sony offshoot I think and their stuff is mediocre nowdays, but I'm tempted to buy one for the sake of nostalgia (or cause why not)

Any good?

[stoic crest]

Vaio, ah yes

They used to be super popular in Thailand

[shut lava]

Vaio use to be Sony's name for their line of laptops and desktops. Its not an offshoot its just the name of the product line just like Bravia or Xperia.

[molten halo]

Vaio used to come in purple so therefore it’s kinda sick

[umbral horizon]

It had that sleek pre-ipod 2000s metal logo

[shut lava]

The first slim and light laptop I had was a used Vaio that I bought from a friend. Well not slim and light by modern standards, but slim and light at the time. The screen was good quality and the the laptop worked great. I have no diea hwo their modern versions are.

[radiant night]

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16883289347?Item=N82E16883289347

Thinking about getting this pre-built, any red flags?

It says it comes with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU

Does that mean less Vram?

[cinder kiln]

ridiculously expensive for what it is

similar build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rT3w7R

and I wouldn't really pick any 4070 over some $460 at that

and this is just aiming for like for like, I could use less accurate parts and get quite a lot cheaper

like KF over K, cheaper m.2, faster equivalent gpu, cheaper motherboard etc

[molten halo]

isnt the 6800 non xt basically 4070 perf for $100 less at this point? without the suite of features of course

[cinder kiln]

as I said, like for like

I'd never pick this combo, if ever

[molten halo]

lol

[cinder kiln]

for the price of that prebuilt you can get a near top of the line pc

gaming-wise anyway

4070 is middle of the road

[molten halo]

heres basically a equiv pc using ur build list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yJWc4M

[cinder kiln]

yeah that's not far off the mark

pretty much maxed out and still $200 to spare
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sYGJt7

[marsh sphinx]

How does a 4070 Ti compare to a 7900 XT in games?

[cinder kiln]

XT somewhat better in raster

but worse in RT

[azure pond]

If you're gaming, you can do a lot better

[azure pond]

Cyberpowerpc is having a black Friday sale, or see how much shipping would be on this to Canada https://www.ebay.com/itm/176010872884?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Yv4sdo0oQIG&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

It would need a ram and ssd upgrade, but easy enough and would be around $200

Ends up $100 more than the build on wegg, (not including shipping) for a much better build, gpus like what, 65% better?

You could also buy parts yourself and pay someone to build it for you

If you did go that route https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KBbprv

[pallid geyser]

This one OOS unfortunately

[cinder kiln]

can anyone confirm this
https://www.ign.com/articles/black-friday-gaming-monitor-deal-samsung-odyssey-oled-g9

[high radish]

Yes it's currently for a grand on Amazon

[cinder kiln]

that's a good price for such an extreme monitor

[marsh sphinx]

Easy with the #tech-deals 😭

Only so much I can buy

[high radish]

Yeah cancelled my old order which was 1100$ and ordered again for 1000$

[zenith lantern]

the $230 4tb wd_black sbn850x is so tempting

[high radish]

49 inch monitor deals are so tempting

[fleet marlin]

Hold for another $10+, lol.

[zenith lantern]

is that actually going to happen

[radiant night]

What about this one?

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1446_1448&item_id=243212

Spark any red flags?

[azure pond]

just still bad price even for pre built

[radiant night]

Anything in particular stand out as bad pricing? 1500 USD + tax doesn't seem too steep.

Or is the price not worth the performance?

[azure pond]

Just not worth the performance

Mainly, cpu is super overkill for the gpu which is a main point of cost likely

See if you can find a 4070 ti build around the same price

I'm pretty sure cyberpower sells in Canada, they have a black Friday promotion atm

Or a 4070 build for a good bit cheaper with a worse cpu

Since the better cpu won't matter in games. If you're not gaming it's a different story though

Or doing more than just gaming

[radiant night]

Checking them out, they do ship to Canada, but it would take quite a while

[azure pond]

Ah how long?

[radiant night]

Guarantee by Dec 24th

[azure pond]

Hm, probably late shipping due to holidays and black Friday. I doubt it would actually take that long but I can't gaurantee that

So it's up to you

[radiant night]

Speaking of, is the Intel Core i7-13700F overkill for the 4070 series?

[azure pond]

This isn't terrible https://www.amazon.ca/Skytech-Chronos-Gaming-PC-Desktop/dp/B0BTRXP7C4/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?crid=38UNT5E4LF914&keywords=4070+ti+pc&qid=1700502905&sprefix=4070+ti+%2Caps%2C95&sr=8-12

4070 is fine with a 5600

13700f is around 25% better than 5600? That's a guesstimate

To put it in perspective, 13700f is fine with a 4090

[radiant night]

So it's not a compatibility issues, it's just the 13700f is more for no good reason?

[azure pond]

Yeah pre built pricing atm looks kinda trash

Yeah, if you could I'd wait and check out sales on black Friday

4 days away

[radiant night]

Yeah, going to try that. Just that Canada Computer sale is already BF prices so I wonder if I could buy and not worry about something better

[azure pond]

Though actually

[radiant night]

Yea Newegg Pre built for 4070 series is crazy

[azure pond]

Could buy and just cancel order if something better pops up

[radiant night]

Yea probably do that

Thanks for all the help

Gotta make sure the 2 grand I spend isn't for some outdated trash

[silver shard]

wrong channel

[broken gorge]

is newegg going to be doing more BF sales that it is rn? or is this what its gonna be for the next week

[azure pond]

it should be

[jolly inlet]

Cyber Monday is where the real online deals are

[tawdry dragon]

I really want to buy stuff rn but I need to control myself

[azure pond]

I'd say the same thing but I literally just can't

So no self control needed from me

[broken gorge]

oh shoot i forgot abt that. should i wait to get my gpu then?

[jolly inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/8ball-bart-simpson-shaking-shake-magic-ball-gif-17725278

Couldn't hurt to wait I think

At the very least the black friday sales would still be on

[azure pond]

GUYS

I found out what the tiktok shop discounts are

Also I doubt they're going to be this good for much longer

It's up to 25% off up to $50 off items listed on wegg

[tawdry dragon]

ship discounts?

[azure pond]

?

Ah

Mb

Also I definitely didn't find this out due to an r/buildapcpsales post

[tawdry dragon]

should I get 64gb ram just because?

My ram I think is failing

I keep getting bluescreens related to memory and hardware type things

[jolly inlet]

No, having that much actively hurts your performance. The most you should get is 48GB (2x24GB)

[tawdry dragon]

48gb is almost always ddr5 tho

[jolly inlet]

Yeah

Which is what you should be using for a 13500 anyway

Because DDR4 kills your performance

[tawdry dragon]

alr had a ddr4 board tho so not sure what to do

[jolly inlet]

Well still don't get a 64GB kit

[tawdry dragon]

and if I replace the board and ram might as well sell the 13500 and get a 13600k instead

[tawdry dragon]

what's the performance hit like?

[jolly inlet]

Or... 7800X3D

[jolly inlet]

On DDR4 it can mean the difference between 4800 and 3600

[tawdry dragon]

productivity is a big part of my pc usage so more cores = better in my situation

[jolly inlet]

7900X3D then

[tawdry dragon]

Tryna not buy things I don't need rn so

I'll probably just get this and be over with it

[jolly inlet]

Just keep in mind DDR4 does take about 15% of your CPU performance away

[tawdry dragon]

15%? really?

[jolly inlet]

Hang on let me find the data I saw before to back that up

I don't like to make claims without evidence

[tawdry dragon]

how tf did they manage to get 270w on a 13500

[jolly inlet]

Well if power draw indicates performance that lines up

[tawdry dragon]

Max wattage on 13500 is 150w

154w technically

[jolly inlet]

No motherboard follows that limit

[tawdry dragon]

65w is the tdp

[jolly inlet]

There's no incentive to follow it, but if they do then their board gets reviewed poorly

I think I'm looking at the same vid as you

And yeah a lot of the benches are about 15% lower with DDR4 except the ones that don't care about memory

And that's with actually decent 3600 c16 DDR4

[tawdry dragon]

to be fair I have a 3070, so in most games it would be gpu limited

[jolly inlet]

It's still a handicap to keep in mind

[cloud hornet]

Prolly total system power

Lots of reviewers use total system power for some reason

[tawdry dragon]

4090 pc in cyberpunk?

look at top of screenshot sent by fal

might be just cinebench for the one I sent though

Not exactly sure

[quasi pasture]

3600 C16 is not decent

[cinder kiln]

Man's experienced ddr5 once and understood the future

[stoic crest]

the future is bright

[quasi pasture]

im just talking about by ddr4 standards

3600 c16 is decent if we were still in 2018 or something lol

[cinder kiln]

[quasi pasture]

[jolly inlet]

3600 c16 was the decent sweet spot for DDR4. Not too slow, not too expensive. You got at least 95% of the max performance your system could possibly give. And it was usually the option of choice for ryzen 5000.

[forest prairie]

Ram is fake

Join your ancestors in the forest

[torpid night]

Fr. Just increase the L3 cache in the CPU. Does the same thing RAM does anyways

[high radish]

Die size disagreed

[torpid night]

RAM is just configurable CPU cache lol

[high radish]

Some laptops comes with soldered in Rams

[forest prairie]

Yessir

[mighty pagoda]

pov: every single macair

[civic sun]

mac*

oh wait the pro desktop might have upgradeable ram

[high radish]

Some windows laptops comes with soldered ram as well . But they have extra 1 slot for upgrade at least

[grave delta]

@azure pond Check this out, you can have it upload to your imgur account and put the url in clipboard.

Also does gifs

https://i.imgur.com/b6a5vxx.png

https://i.imgur.com/fYhzZWN.gif

[high radish]

How's checkout at tiktok can you use PayPal or something

[mighty pagoda]

i wonder how much money tiktok makes just by getting so much info based on peoples carts on tiktok

it lets them advertise way more accurately i guess

[high radish]

Yeah I just don't trust it lol if it had secure payment options I would use it

[azure pond]

I'm crying that I can't buy that series s

[cinder kiln]

I can't buy any of the tiktok deals

[azure pond]

Fair enough

I can purchase it, im just too broke

If best buy WOULD PAY ME MY MONEY I'd be able to buy it

But I'm still missing 24 hours worth of work

9 days late

[tiny heron]

Asking for a friend. This 12700kf or 13600kf. Upgrading from a ryzen 3600 paired with rtx 3070

[cinder kiln]

I don't think you'll ever see it that cheap again

[grand orbit]

I'd spend 20 or so on the 13600kf or get a 7600(x)/7700(x)

[azure pond]

^^

13600kf or 7600 is def worth it over 12700kf

[cinder kiln]

Is it really 140 for a 13600kf

[azure pond]

Or 12600k

[cinder kiln]

I thought it was 180?

[azure pond]

Yeah its more like 170-180

One sec I'll check exactly

[cinder kiln]

The slight boost over 12700k isn't really worth more than 20

[azure pond]

Yeah 170

[cinder kiln]

7600 makes sense cos you don't need a cooler let alone some beefy aio

So the 30 is easily offset

[azure pond]

Yeah but then 12700k not worth over 12600k since 12600k is like $30 cheaper, so I'd say 12600k or 7600

[cinder kiln]

12600k for 90???

Wtf

[azure pond]

Yeah its crazy

[high radish]

[azure pond]

$120 before coupon, and 25% off up to $50

7600 for $150 imo is better

[cinder kiln]

90 for 12600k beats all of them

Period

[high radish]

TikTok still looks sus to me

[azure pond]

Ig depends on what you're doing. I'd spend the extra for 7600, but in value yeah you're right

[azure pond]

Sold by newegg.

[cinder kiln]

7600 is barely faster in games than a 12600k

60$ difference, you'd easily break lower with the 126k

[azure pond]

Yeah fair enough

[high radish]

Yeah but what about card info

[azure pond]

If tiktok is selling card info

Hundreds of thousands if not millions of people are about to have their card info stolen

[cinder kiln]

With these prices who cares

[azure pond]

I gaurantee you that is not the case

Hell just pay with PayPal or something if you're worried about it

[cinder kiln]

Open a separate debit account for tiktok if you need to

Ye

[high radish]

I have 40k limit on amex so I have to be careful usually not bothering with websites that don't accept Paypal. Except amazon ofc lol

[cinder kiln]

Open a debit account

Put money into debit account

Buy off tiktok

If you always have a limit on the account no one can really do crap to your account

Oh dear, they took $50

Welp, that's all that was in there

🤷‍♂️

[high radish]

Yeah I think I have Virtual debit card as well . Will check to see how that tiktok thing works later

PayPal is bae their protection is amazing

[tiny heron]

Update on the Xbox series S. Another $50 off

[azure pond]

Yep, not even that cheap used

I really hope it's still up on Friday

I shouldn't buy it but I'm going to if I can

[tiny heron]

I couldn't resist I got one 😂

Haven't had a console in over 3 years. But sometimes I just want to lay in my bed and play something instead of being at the desk

[fleet marlin]

Should note that's w/ your 1st coupon for 25% off. I sadly already used it. $90ish 12600K is pretty good too. I also did the 4TB mp34 for $120ish. previous deals was an xbox controller for $18.
--- someone said I still have to do the plug in sensor or w/o word I'm thinking of even if I have a usb c cable to pc?

[high radish]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[azure pond]

New account

[fleet marlin]

Maybe just use another credit card for that? Yea, i could go for a $150ish series S. Sold my one S a year or 2 ago.

[hybrid void]

is it working on one sim card? tried it through blue stacks and vpn and no luck 😦

[swift forge]

Isn’t the tiktok shop kinda sketchy or something?

[vague pine]

if youre buying from randos probably

[azure pond]

Everything that we post in tech deals is shipped and sold by newegg

So no

There are obviously scammers, but where aren't there

Including on newegg and Amazon

But as long as listed by wegg, good

[cinder kiln]

@azure pond

I'm still on the fence

even at $15

that thing is ANCIENT

[vague pine]

150 for a xbox series s is tempting

[azure pond]

True, $2 more gets 214xt

But $15 cooler is $15 cooler

[cinder kiln]

that $2 is kind of worth it

at least the dummies that still buy hyper 212's will be pleased thoughh

[grave delta]

Best buy still carries those here

Also basically just C-tier psu's

[fair moon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JpqdnQ/evga-cpu-cooler-100fsc901kr
evga makes air coolers?

not a deal just saw it while looking at other air cooler prices

[azure pond]

Didn't know that

For $17 seems solid too

[daring depot]

is that monitor deal gone? the m27q is 250 for me

[azure pond]

the -p? or just m27q

[daring depot]

-p

[azure pond]

weird, shows 220 for me rn

[daring depot]

Maybe new customer?

[azure pond]

nah old account for me

it just varies for some people for some reason

it doesn't make sense

[daring depot]

sucks. I really wanted this monitor but I can definitely find better deals

[azure pond]

check build chat, i just linked a few

[daring depot]

is there a significant difference between 165 and 144hz btw?
also ok

[azure pond]

well not linked

but yknow what i mean

nah not really

[daring depot]

gotcha

[azure pond]

120-180 is all very similar

[terse pine]

that pre built pc is crazy

[tawdry dragon]

can easily build a similar or better pc yourself, but it's not bad

something like this, and yes I know you can save money on the cpu cooler I just like this one https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6zcVDZ

[pulsar fable]

Just a bit confused. Did this go up in price?

[tawdry dragon]

maybe just a diff account price, let me check

same price for me

but I do have $50 off from the coupon

[pulsar fable]

So, is that extra $30 off gone, or is that a "new user" $30 coupon on top of the $50 coupon?

[tawdry dragon]

$230 but I have a 25% off coupon up to $50

so $180 for me after coupon

$10 shipping tho

[pulsar fable]

Also there's a few coupons floating around atm

[tawdry dragon]

max coupon for me rn

some products have a 30% off coupon tho

[pulsar fable]

So it would appear

Even the Xbox S is in that category

[tawdry dragon]

You have max $20 off?

that kinda sucks for some higher priced items

[pulsar fable]

I have 4 separate coupons

[tawdry dragon]

not here, #building-and-recc-chat

[bleak sleet]

Oh

[tawdry dragon]

I have 3

[pulsar fable]

I think all apply to the newegg tech items

Man that Xbox s is tempting even though I don't be able to play my library if 360 games on it

[tawdry dragon]

I saw some bose qc45's for $100 new

oos now tho

hmmm

[azure pond]

Series s still shows $200 for me

[tawdry dragon]

diff accounts

[azure pond]

Sorry meant 200, typo

[cinder kiln]

INSANE DEAL

[tawdry dragon]

yeah, it happens

what insane deal

xbox?

[cinder kiln]

Wot

No the xtx

[tawdry dragon]

oh ok

[azure pond]

Yeah incredible value

Though obviously can get 15% off other gpus too

[cinder kiln]

Best radeon card deal to date I swear

[azure pond]

425 for 7800xt

[cinder kiln]

Jfc

Wait we just had a guy who wanted one

[trim pier]

@azure pond 7900xt for 642$ is a crap price right?

WAIT

is the 7800xt reference card better than the merc 7800xt?

I just realized

if I do the 15% off on the 7800xt, I can get one for around 460$ which is cheaper than 531 (aka how much i'm spending on amazon rn)

[azure pond]

No

That's great

[cinder kiln]

It's by far the best price it's ever been

[trim pier]

okay so uh

if amazon still had the 7800xt merc for 509.99

I could of price matched it w newegg with their 15$ off coupon

get the 15% cash back

and pay it in installments which doesn't give me a depression of an empty bank account

for around uhhh let me check

I could of gotten a 7800xt for 455.97$ after tax.

that's nearly a 100$ difference from what i'm paying now

wait. @azure pond you think the microsoft thing works through tiktok?

[azure pond]

I've no clue but if it does that would be both hilarious and sick

[trim pier]

calling their support rn

[tawdry dragon]

deal? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MSVHZTT

[fair moon]

Highly doubtful. Most likely need a browser extension for the Cashback and TikTok shop is only in-app

[fair moon]

Yeah. The prebuilts for $28 are pretty good as well

[azure pond]

I read this outta context and was like "where the hell you getting a $28 pc"

[tawdry dragon]

wish.com

[fair moon]

I got a (full sized) GMMK base last Black Friday for ~$35 and put my $10 EVGA switches in it

[tawdry dragon]

although it's a 60% keeb (I hate them)

I actually recently built a keeb with silent switches and it's pretty good

[fair moon]

Yeah I prefer full sized

[tawdry dragon]

I prefer tkl or 75%

[azure pond]

I'm a full size fan, I think the k4 is 96%?

Dame difference

[fair moon]

I like having a numpad/10key

Got a large enough desk the space doesn't matter to me

[trim pier]

@fair moon that keyboard barebone, is it any good?

considering I do need a tkl and idk if it's expensive to build one from scratch

[fair moon]

For $20 I think it's a pretty good deal

[trim pier]

could you link me like any good key switchs maybe?

[fair moon]

The gmmk software isn't the best but it works

[fair moon]

My keyboard knowledge doesn't extend that far, sorry

[tawdry dragon]

do you want loud, quiet, smooth, tactile

[fair moon]

I got some EVGA switches when they were on sale for $10 but I doubt they're that cheap rn

[trim pier]

quiet n smooth if possible

[tawdry dragon]

like how quiet? silent or just not loud

[trim pier]

tbh I don't want asmr quality sounds

both

whatever works lmao

I don't really like the clicky noises so loud

[tawdry dragon]

price range?

[trim pier]

try keeping it under 25$ maybe?

idk how much key switches are tbh

[tawdry dragon]

aliexpress then

[trim pier]

cause the board is 20$, if switchs are 25$, then the keycaps are like another-

ah

[trim pier]

how much are they usually

[tawdry dragon]

most switches are around $50 for a tkl board

[trim pier]

😭

[tawdry dragon]

like on brand ones

[trim pier]

might aswell by a tecware phantom+

[tawdry dragon]

I have aliexpress switches

not mad

[trim pier]

oh

[tawdry dragon]

bad

[trim pier]

well start linking them up 😏

[tawdry dragon]

yeah hold on

Just search up keyboard switches on ali

I have these ones https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805166935430.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.113.5aad2cc79pIA5S&algo_pvid=5957ba72-a3f2-41cc-be34-9c65c68d1dbc&algo_exp_id=5957ba72-a3f2-41cc-be34-9c65c68d1dbc-57&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!42.95!17.61!!!42.95!!%402101d91e17006126037178916e9efb!12000032797840514!sea!US!4392043946!&curPageLogUid=BJqPlKBoCxSi

cream yellows I think

[fair moon]

outemu or gateron are the budget switches I've heard of

Could also get a kailh set for ~$30, idk how they compare to outemu and gateron

[pallid geyser]

man wtf

why is tts stuff cheaper for yall lol

m27q-p is $249 for me

[azure pond]

It varies per person, I've no clue what causes it to vary still though

[pallid geyser]

DISCRIMINATION

[azure pond]

@pallid geyser migthtve figured it out

Mightve

Someone said it's people who haven't bought anything tend to have the higher prices

However new users tend to also have the lower prices

[pallid geyser]

i dunnno its so weird

i haven't purchased anything on there so

maybe so

[tiny dirge]

@azure pond how does that cashback thing work

that youd get like 200 off a 7900xtx

[azure pond]

It explains it on the link, click on the newegg thing

[trim pier]

you gotta buy it through microsoft edge

open microsoft, search up cashback microsoft, go to shopping tab and boom

[tiny dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-spiderverse-into-the-spiderverse-spider-noir-spidergwen-gif-26876252

[trim pier]

👍

I literally got a 7800xt for 450$

I originally planned for a merc for 532$

that would of taken 3 weeks to get here

while my sapphire comes at the end of this week

[tiny dirge]

mercs are the best looking amd cards

[trim pier]

no fr

but the 7000's is crap looking

aluminum back (so it's silver color) with a front black color and white outlined fans?

just ugly.

should of adapted a 6000's series look, cause the only rgb on it is their logo which is only white.

[tiny dirge]

honestly

7000 is kinda sick

i only dont like

the logo on the fans

not being symmetrical

[trim pier]

same

[tawdry dragon]

best looking card

[trim pier]

so minimialistic but the color scheme along with the qick version just the black version of it

[trim pier]

if midas from fortnite was a gpu

[tawdry dragon]

midas isn't from fortnite lol

[trim pier]

there's a character named midas

[tawdry dragon]

which is based off a story

Where king midas gets a wish where anything he touches turns to gold

[verbal kraken]

Did they do the cash back already?

[trim pier]

not yet

I calculated tho

[verbal kraken]

do you know when they are going to handle that?

how long it takes?

[trim pier]

about a week

[verbal kraken]

Do you have to use Edge?

@trim pier

[trim pier]

yes @verbal kraken

[daring depot]

can you cancel orders on tiktok shop? \

Im kinda craving a 170hz monitor over the 144 i bought

[trim pier]

ya ypou should

[azure pond]

For why

I mean if the panel is similar or better quality sure

But 26hz isn't worth compromising elsewhere

[trim pier]

btw I meant to reply to the cancel order question

[verbal kraken]

@trim pier So after you make the purchase do you just report to bing?

[trim pier]

microsoft edge -> search microsoft cashback, shopping tab, choose website of your choice, claim, then buy yayayaya, make sure you have it say that you've earned cash back in top right, and youll get an email to your outlook

[verbal kraken]

Thank you much appreciated @trim pier

[trim pier]

anytime

[verbal kraken]

I guess this is the best deal that would be available for a 7800xt this holiday season

[trim pier]

it's a good card, though if the 6950xt was still available as refrub

you should buy that

especially if it's oc

[tiny dirge]

ayo

what is that

[tiny dirge]

i cant find it

[trim pier]

@tiny dirge join vc 1

nvm

I can't stream

@tiny dirge https://www.bing.com/rebates/details?merchant=newegg&domain=newegg.com

see if it's working

does it allow you 15% cashback?

[verbal kraken]

How exactly do you get the cash back?

[trim pier]

well

they first process the order

so you wait a little bit, then go to the cashback webpagea

and it'll show you if your cashback is claimable or still in process

[verbal kraken]

So you have to give them your debit card info?

[tiny dirge]

thats normally how you buy something online yes

[verbal kraken]

ok lol...I'm just talking about the cash back

[trim pier]

well in ORDER to get the cash back you need a card

or a bank account

card probably though

[verbal kraken]

I was just wondering if you could get a check mailed to you instead of spreading your info around

[trim pier]

nah unfortunately no, if you're really scared about info like that being spreaded around, go to wells fargo and open an account to never use but to only apply for things

@tiny dirge wdym pandora?

[tiny dirge]

this thingy

[trim pier]

ooooooh

I thought you meant promo

also don't forget abt cashback 💀

[tiny dirge]

there worded it better

[tiny dirge]

i still cant find it

[trim pier]

price of item - % cash back + tax

[tiny dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-wall-talk-gif-5290288

[trim pier]

https://www.bing.com/rebates/details?merchant=newegg&domain=newegg.com ?? @tiny dirge

are you using chrome or microsoft edge

also I reverted my timezone

still works.

[tiny dirge]

i opened it on edge

[trim pier]

uh huh

[tiny dirge]

do i only see it in checkout

[trim pier]

want me to stream AGAIN? 😭

[tiny dirge]

no no no

hol on

[trim pier]

after you open edge

[tiny dirge]

let me cook rq

[trim pier]

you should look in the top right

there's a little tag

saying cashback activated

[tiny dirge]

it said that

[trim pier]

mhm

now what you gotta do on newegg is find your said item which is?

[tiny dirge]

a 7900 xtx ig

for xt price

[trim pier]

let me take the skillet rq

@tiny dirge asrock phantom or sapphire pulse

best deal guys, 20% off temu the website that steals your info!! https://www.bing.com/rebates/details?domain=temu.com

[grand orbit]

@mystic sedge talk here about deals #tech-deals is only for posting them

[torpid night]

random deals like 10% off. bruh please. those basically aren't even deals in this economy 💀
#tech-deals message

[fleet marlin]

1670 for 4090 is junk unless maybe a strix or similar. Sub-1600 or ez pass

[cinder kiln]

The rest are 2k+ rn

So yeah, not great, but at least people who are desperate have something

[swift wing]

hope the RX 7800 XT goes on sale

any ideas if gpu's get friday/monday deals?

[cinder kiln]

It's on sale rn

Check #tech-deals for the bing rebate and microsoft cashback stuff

I can't help you with it cos I'm not in US but it's there, some 15% cashback

$425 7800xt

[swift wing]

oh, did a discord search in that chat for 7800 and nothin came up

[cinder kiln]

All good

[swift wing]

Anyone got insight on that ^ let me know

[cloud hornet]

Love it when an already obtusely overpriced GPU is overpriced even more for no real reason. $1700 is sadly a good deal for a 4090 rn.

[fleet marlin]

It's like 2020 or such again, haha.

[trim pier]

Need help on the rebate?

[swift wing]

Ye. If you think 425 is the cheapest ittl get. Was thinking about waiting for a sale if there's any chance one will show up

Last item is some ddr5 ram as well. Haven't spent any time looking for a deal tho

[pallid geyser]

Dude I swear Black Friday back in the day was like punching an old lady in the face for the deals at Walmart

Now it’s like

Oh joy

$5 off

I can’t wait to fight the crowds

For $5 off

[tawdry dragon]

nah, best deals are from the brand's website

[swift wing]

Went to Walmart on black Friday last year on complete accident to buy somethingrandom for $2. Completely empty lmao

[tawdry dragon]

I went last year and there was a surprisingly small amount of people

got a christmas tree on sale and left

[trim pier]

@swift wing

So you won’t exactly get it for 425, but you’ll get a close enough price like 450 maybe.

Also buy the reference model, small, cute looking, and comes in a cool box.

[tawdry dragon]

$50 off for a card that just released is actually a pretty good deal

[trim pier]

So to start off, open Microsoft edge. Search Microsoft rewards or go to the link that I provided yesterday in #tech-deals (PLEASE USE MICROSOFT EDGE) and find newegg.

You have to click it then claim the deal, go to the website and buy the card.

Promo codes are excluded from this 15% cash back, so cheapest you can get,

After that, go to checkout, check in the top right the tag in the search bar and see if it’ll check coupons, it’ll apply your 15% cash back (but the website aka newegg won’t show) and then fully buy it through newegg.

You’ll get an email through your outlook if it was connected with the browser that you had received cashback, give it a week and it should be ready to transfer back to your account

[velvet rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500102969702875156/1176559925791576125/Screenshot_20231121_112825_TikTok.jpg?ex=656f4fd1&is=655cdad1&hm=06f994a755494f4cb8e3f55d8eedc8c693f646d0d38018a4fa9f37bc404fc0db&

It’s $250…

[trim pier]

The math equation is price of card (ex: 499.99) - cashback (aka 15%) + state/country tax = price you pay.

[trim pier]

?

[velvet rock]

The Xbox

[tawdry dragon]

It's different on different accounts

I have $230 for example

[swift wing]

Ill try to follow those steps in a few min, how long does this method last for? @trim pier

[tawdry dragon]

nobody can really say

[velvet rock]

Why is it different…

[tawdry dragon]

idk, tiktok is weird

[velvet rock]

It’s on TikTok?

What code

[tawdry dragon]

what?

@fleet marlin you answer the question then

[fleet marlin]

People can't snooze on the deals. I currently don't have coupons now & xbox is at 250 for me too. 🤷‍♂️

[velvet rock]

Smh

[trim pier]

No clue

[trim pier]

You need the new account thing for it to be 200$

Which well

Is a long process

[swift wing]

@trim pier does it need to be the reference model?

[trim pier]

Any model you’d like

But do the cheapest

Promo codes do not work

[swift wing]

ok thanks

@trim pier says 4%. that normal?

[trim pier]

Nope, I see what happened. Yesterday they had the triple cashback so it was 15%

But now it’s over

[swift wing]

ah unlucky

[trim pier]

Unfortunate

But hey

Just wait till Friday

Or

If you’re tight on money, use zip

[swift wing]

If i see a deal yeah, if nothin pops maybe wait till monday?

[trim pier]

Ehhh

Black Friday usually is cyber Monday deals

It goes the other way around too

[swift wing]

ight thanks for the info

[brisk sphinx]

Meh if that liquid devil is open box it’s 2 things, either vram is 💩 or the nickel coating on the waterblock is starting to fail

Waterblock also can not be opened to clean for maintenance

[radiant night]

My workplace is offering me a 3090 gaming PC for 2500$ CAD flat.

Windows 11 Home
Intel® Core™ i7-12700K processor Dodeca-core 3.60 GHz
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3090 with 24 GB dedicated memory
32 GB, DDR5 SDRAM
2 TB HDD, 1 TB SSD

Should i take it?

[stoic crest]

nah

[radiant night]

Any particular reason? I am a bit wary buying a 3090 despite it competing with 4070 ti

[stoic crest]

hella overpriced at 2500

if you build you can spend kess and get nicer parts

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tTPkjH

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qWBRz6

nvidia option

[radiant night]

Yeah, this is the one I'm going with

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2HYbwg

But wanted to see if my work was actually giving me a good deal, lol

[stoic crest]

ah cool

fair lol

[azure pond]

Don't buy the cooler off vuugo though, vuugo charges absurd shipping

I'd just get this, also a really nice dual tower as a bonus https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/xMLFf7/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-white-arg

[verbal kraken]

Great deal on the Samsung Odyssey G5 34" UW 1440p right now with the $70 off promo code.

on newegg

[jolly inlet]

I would not recommend that monitor. It's a VA panel and it doesn't even have the strengths of VA, it's more like a TN in quality.

[azure pond]

@elfin cloak

[high radish]

I have 7th december estimate at least

[tranquil frost]

does anyone know any other promo codes except for zip111? please send me it im about to make an expensive purchase

[fair moon]

Microsoft Cashback maybe

Not a code but can get 15% back

[tranquil frost]

how can i do it?

[fair moon]

^

[tranquil frost]

thank you

[swift wing]

seems like the newegg 15% is now 4%

[azure pond]

Yeah was just a day long sadly it seems

@cinder kiln check that one out

[velvet rock]

#tech-deals message

As I bought mine a week ago for way more

Smfh

[tiny heron]

Unfortunately the 7600 doesn't show stackable coupon for me

[velvet rock]

@azure pond can you lmk if you see any 55” tvs

Moving in first apartment looking for a deal

Best I see is this one rn

Limited-time deal: INSIGNIA 55-inch Class F30 Series LED 4K UHD Smart Fire TV with Alexa Voice Remote (NS-55F301NA22, 2021 Model) https://a.co/d/0m5CIrh

[cinder kiln]

Maybe some day

[fleet marlin]

Amd 7600 is 169 for the majority of us who used all coupons a day or 2 ago already. Getting hopes up, haha.

[tepid oracle]

Cant u make a new account

[swift wing]

Anyone know what time potential black friday deals pop at?

[slender yarrow]

Hey! Not sure if I'm in the right channel, but I just wanted to ask if this computer looks good for the price? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-5700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8gb-2tb-ssd-black/6553003.p?skuId=6553003

[silver shard]

isnt the 4060 one of the worst gpus ever made especially the 8gb version

[azure pond]

Eh, new account is very easy to make

[azure pond]

It's OK

For pre builts it is good value

But can do a lot better custom

Or used

[slender yarrow]

Yeah that’s probably true, I just don’t want to go through the hassle of building a computer, especially if a part comes messed up or doesn’t work

[azure pond]

Then as long as you're informed, it's a fine buy. Might be smthn better tmrw, but could order it and cancel it if you see something better tomorrow or cyber monday

[gusty river]

Call me crazy, but BestBuy has the SkullCandy Crushers on sale for $100 and I bought them just for the sheer absurdity

[azure pond]

Eh

Skullcandy from what I know tends to be lower quality than much cheaper options

[gusty river]

I’m aware, but have you ever tried the Crushers? I highly recommend you find a store that has a demo model and try them. They’re just plain crazy, they literally shake on your head

Truly nothing quite like them in the headphone world

[fleet marlin]

Yea I should've checked day or 2 ago. $20 off is decent on $60ish to $100 items though.

[azure pond]

Yeah, they literally just swapped to those ones with the most recent update

I just updated 30 min ago

[azure pond]

Is that respawn chair a good deal?

[marsh sphinx]

😭

[waxen yacht]

a 9th gen iPad, apple watch SE, and meta quest 2 are all on sale near me for around $200, are any of these worth it?

[tawdry dragon]

they're all about what they're supposed to be with the exception of the apple watch

[daring depot]

Does tiktok shop have a price match function?

[fair moon]

All bundled together or $200 each?

[daring depot]

The monitor I got is now 30 bucks cheaper than when I bought it

[waxen yacht]

each

[fair moon]

Highly doubt it

[fair moon]

Not bad prices but not steals either
Edit: just saw apple watch SE 2nd gen for $180 on Amazon

[fair moon]

That would be price protection not price matching. You might be able to contact Newegg and see but probably unlikely

[quasi pasture]

amazing deal

[quasi pasture]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285482745793? honestly not a bad deal

about 160 for everything

[fair moon]

Epic games store has coupon for additional 33% off any game over $15. Shame that none of the games I'm interested in are on there (literally went thru my steam wishlist and searched each game on EGS; nothing worth getting)

[thick hill]

Should I grab some upgrades for my pc or wait for cyber Monday?

Most likely Im looking for RAM and ssd

[cobalt turret]

@azure pond did the 7600x deal change

seems like its back to 200+discounts

[stoic crest]

depends on your pc's current specs

and whether you do stuff that warrants an upgrade as being worth it or not

[thick hill]

Thanks for reply, currently I have ripjaw 16gb(2x8) ram 3200 and WD_black 500gb , was thinking to double RAM like add more 2x8 and 1tb WD_black (since i have 2 slot on board)or maybe kept 500gb and go for hdd idk

[stoic crest]

you could get p41 plus 1tb

as for ram there's silicon power kits for $50, 32gb 3200

or if you wanna save some moneys, there's also another ssd worth getting

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

g.skill has ripjaws kit with same specs for $5 more

just in case you want to stay with same brand

nvm it's actually 10 more

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8BRYcf/team-t-force-cardea-z44l-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpl001t0c127

[thick hill]

they fit together? or do i have to remove WD

[stoic crest]

nope, just use second slot on your board

ram you will need to replace the old kit with new too

for max stability and stuff

[thick hill]

to be honest I was thinking to buy another set of 2x8 ram so i could use all 4 slot for rams

[stoic crest]

that's a bad idea honestly

mixing up ram can bring in more problems than it's worth

running 4 dimms is harder than 2 as is

[thick hill]

So me better to sell get 2x16 and sell the old ones , makes sense now

[stoic crest]

mhm

[thick hill]

sadly there is no Silicon power rams on newegg, have 20$ gift card

[stoic crest]

try substitute it with other kits

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gvk

this one is on newegg

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bcnypg/team-t-force-vulcan-z-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-tlzgd432g3200hc16fdc01

oh wait this gets better

[thick hill]

oh and free flash drive, i needed that

[stoic crest]

i honestly only gazed at price

but that's a nice bonus

[thick hill]

But, how good is Vulcan compared to the ripjaw? I used to told for many years that ripjaw is one of the best

oh nvm, amazon have same price without sale

[stoic crest]

teamgroup is decent

gskill is obviously best but most often times team group offers you the same ram with same dies for less money

sometimes the cheapest too

[velvet rock]

Any deals in tvs

The one I was gonna get sold out

[azure pond]

Best buy has some good ones

[raw juniper]

This looks like a great deal that Robbie posted but is the monitor any good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CC8XKK3N

Never seen Koorui before

[stoic crest]

one model was reviewed by optimum hardware

it was pretty good

not sure about that exact model tho

sorry, i meant optimum tech channel

https://youtu.be/eLr0MctXRsY?si=qxMciyj9gGizEqU5

[azure pond]

It's alright

I'd spend the extra for 27qs or go down to 1440p 144-170hz

[stoic crest]

^

[velvet rock]

Where?

[brisk sphinx]

Ripjaws are bottom of the barrel, really meh

[raw juniper]

Thanks!

[thick hill]

wow

[thick hill]

which is good then? like not top but not bad aswell somewhere middle

[torpid night]

swear if this mf says Corsair lol

[pallid geyser]

corsair vengeance is the Nissan Altima of the ram world

[torpid night]

wait since when? I thought they were good

[pallid geyser]

oh whoops meant Corsair

[brisk sphinx]

You think I’m going to say Corsair? LOL

[torpid night]

just making sure lmao

[brisk sphinx]

Gskill tridentZ is solid, newer teamgroup kits are pretty good

As long as it’s a good IC, ram brand doesn’t really matter that much

But also doesn’t matter if you ain’t planning on manually tuning the ram

[shut lava]

There has only been one other time that the 5800X3D was lower in price and people still downvote a historic low price. lol

[stoic crest]

7800x3d has been very cheap

at 359 iirc

[azure pond]

7600 is $170, mobo is $90-110, ram is $65-80

[shut lava]

Still a lot more expensive to upgrade to AM5 for someone on AM4 already.

[stoic crest]

fair enough

[shut lava]

Its only cheaper if you select bottom bin components and can get the 7600 through the TikTok shop. Everywhere else the 7600 is $199.99. The $80 DDR5 is CAS40. A $90-$110 AM5 motherboard is an A620 or base model B650 and some of them have issues with their VRMs and throttling when you swap in higher power draw CPUs. So that limits future upgrades. The lowest possible price 7600 system has the potential to be a downgrade in component quality. Techspot says a 7600 with PBO is 2% faster than a 5800X3D across multiple games at 1080p. So you are replacing everything with low end components and hoping to get a 2% improvement in performance over a drop in CPU upgrade and risking not having a motherboard that can handle a higher end CPU upgrade in the future. Sounds like a lot of tradeoffs.

[tiny heron]

The 5700x for $135 the other day was more worth it than a 5800x3d imo

[fleet marlin]

So what if only 1 fan, $35 is pretty good.

[velvet rock]

Really good

But when you think about it

3 rgb fans by the time they’re bought will be the same as my case

Montech AIR 903 MAX, E-ATX Mid Tower Case, High Airflow, 3X 140mm ARGB PWM & 1x 140mm PWM Fans Pre-Installed, Tempered Glass Side Panel, Mesh Front, Type-C, Support 4090 GPUs, Black https://a.co/d/0wEj2BD

[cinder kiln]

Just about any AM5 with a mobo heatsink can run a 7950x, idk where you get the idea that something like an a620m gaming x can't run one

There are reviews on this

I don't really agree with the ram either though, but I do agree the 5800x3d is a middling option when you can take a new platform further and sell off the old parts instead

Hell you could even sell the old cooler you'd want to use with a 58x3d cos the 7600 is fine on stock

[shut lava]

I saw a few AM5 motherboard reviews where lower end B650 and A620 boards had greatly reduced performance with higher power draw AM5 CPUs because their BIOS throttled power to the CPU socket.

[cinder kiln]

If you're talking about the b650m hdv, that's a bios imposed limit and can be removed.

And it runs a 7950x

I've seen a number of AM5 reviews, the only ones you avoid are rev. 1 prime B650's and bare bones A620's with no sinks* whatsoever

AM5 is overbuilt almost completely across the board, you get basic tier boards with 8+ 60A stages and plenty of capacity to handle a 150W chip

Even the A620 itx boards are a bit silly for as stupid cheap as they are

You've got like, a620i gigabyte on 6+2+1 which is sufficient for running no pbo

A620i asrock pg on 8+2+1

A620m gaming x on something like 6+2+1?

All the pro rs boards punch way above their weight

A or B

And these are all boards that dip sub 150

[shut lava]

There were a few MSI and Asus boards that had issues with higher power draw CPUs. I don't remember if other manufacturers had issues. I'll have to go back and look at the models. VRMs with a 7950X were 90C and they were throttling the CPUs. So the performance in various benchmarks and some games were lower.

[cinder kiln]

Sorry it's 8+2+1 on gaming x

And first review I pulled up from tom's hardware, it's fine with a 7950x

[cinder kiln]

Yes cos asus had crap prime boards

As I said, avoid prime rev 1

Not sure about the msi ones, afaik the heatsink'd msi boards are all fine

Caps at mid 80's, perfectly fine

$110

For context, 155W 7950X

[shut lava]

Don't A620 boards have overclocking disabled and also don't have the faster USB ports?

[cinder kiln]

Yeah?

But on ryzen, cpu overclocking means jack squat for performance

It doesn't matter

You won't get $50 performance, spending $50 more for a motherboard

[fair moon]

My a520 still does PBO I think just no manual OCing

[cinder kiln]

And you can still use xmp/expo

Even then pbo is superlative

You get maybe 1%

If not worse

[fair moon]

Huh

[cinder kiln]

I'm talking games

In multithread it helps a tiny bit

Curve optimiser does way more

[fair moon]

Gotcha

[cinder kiln]

There's 1000 reasons not to overspend on AM5

Once you hit $125 you start to lose, by $150 you're definitely losing on mobo cost

Even the $99 B650m-p MSI has a 6 stage vcore

That sink is tiny though

I don't think we've ever recommended it here tbf

Actually no it's 6+2+1

It's still a bit beefy lol

[marsh sphinx]

Nerd

[cinder kiln]

Jeez the a620m gaming x is 87$ rn?

Wtf

It's only $40 more and you'd offset all that through selling parts

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dcsmd9

Break way higher than a drop in

[shut lava]

My issue with buying the really cheap CAS 40 RAM with AM5 is that some of the benchmarks show that the non 3D V-cache CPUs show a 5-10% difference in FPS in games between CAS 30 and CAS 40 DDR5 6000.

[cinder kiln]

I didn't rec cas 40

I recc'd hynix c32

There are also cheaper options

Like cl46 tcreate could run whatever expo profile you'd dream of with 5 minutes of bios changes

That stuff is A die underneath

A lot of people I know boot 8000+ with CL46 tcreate

Let alone the cl32 hynix I'm putting here that's probably m die

[brisk sphinx]

Example: me

[shut lava]

Your link had CAS 32 5600 which is equal to CAS 40 6000 in some game benchmarks if you run it at EXPO 5600 timings. So you are suggesting they overclock the CAS 32 5600?

[cinder kiln]

No

There's no correlation

The reason cl40 runs so slow is because it's often Samsung or micron

Which trains wide af timings on any mobo

Hynix trains really well and trains tight

Picture it like the samsung b die of ddr5

Also for the record. Cas means nothing on ram. It's influence is next to none, especially on ddr5

[shut lava]

I thought I saw benchmarks of CAS 32 5600 where it didn't do any better than CAS 40 6000 in game benchmarks.

[brisk sphinx]

CAS does barely anything to help with performance

[cinder kiln]

Even if you did it means nothing anyway

10 minutes with buildzoid easy timings

Fixes all that

And gives you way more

All you need, is a hynix kit

Which are all CL32 or less

Or the tcreate kits which are cl46+

You can buy any 5600 hynix kit, dial in a 6400 cl32 xmp and it'll run with 0 effort

[brisk sphinx]

Wait Felix, unrelated to this convo but this is M-die right? https://www.microcenter.com/product/668881/teamgroup-t-create-expert-48gb-kit-(2-x-24gb)-ddr5-7200-pc5-57600-cl34-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-ctcwd548g7200hc34adc01-white

[cinder kiln]

Yes

It can't be anything else

It's 5h24m

[brisk sphinx]

Sounds good, thanks

Off to MC I go

[cinder kiln]

Hynix will always train tighter than any samsung kit, and will quite easily offset any bandwidth gains, and that's just running at basic settings

Like the mobos, overspending on ddr5 has no benefit if you know what to look for

So knowing all this? If you ask me, paying $40 more (and ultimately earning more back from flipping the old gear) to run a new platform, with excellent ram and space for upgrades? To me it's easily worth it

Also knowing just how much better the user experience is on AM5 over AM4

It's so easy to work with

Less usb nonsense, less random issues like audio driver failure

There are tangible side benefits too

Once upon a time a 5800x3d made a lot of sense, but that time has really passed. A 5600x3d would still make sense, provided we had way more than the handful sold

And we haven't even dived into the $80 12600K deal on tiktok either lol

Which slaps the both of these

[shut lava]

Going back to my original comment about all the downvotes, when I look at the "value" of tech deals, I often think of it in terms of suggestions to the average user who isn't going to manually edit RAM timings. So swapping in a 5800X3D for their 3600 or whatever and gaining several more years worth of use is a lot less complicated and tiem consumingthan making sure they select the right RAM, changing the RAM timings, and not downgrading motherboard features/connectivity/future overclocking, but I see the point of an AM5 swap for some people.

[cinder kiln]

But defending changing ram timings isn't a strong point to make

Because you're inputting a manual xmp

Any hynix kit can run any <6400 XMP

And there's literally 7 numbers

It takes 2 minutes

I mean, if you want to justify spending what, 20, 30, 40 more on a simple button instead of 7 that's fine, but this is really what it boils down to

This is why I always recc the 5600 vulcan kit

You can take almost any other xmp and just run it if it's sub 7200

[shut lava]

Many of the people I've sold PCs to would need to be guided through every step of changing a few RAM timings or they wouldn't even bother because BIOS = scary. I guess I deal with a different population and many of them aren't enthusiast or that knowledgeable about PC hardware.

[cinder kiln]

But even still, I'd be both willing to help with that, and additionally, this is without even establishing a precedent that 5600CL32 is slow

you could even go so far as to just, load the 5600 xmp

bump the frequency to 6200

and that's it

and it'll still be faster

irregardless of any test

You then have a faster xmp by simply only changing one extra option instead of 7

the option to change the frequency always sits on the same screen as setting the xmp

they are almost always next to each other even

And again, going around the point that supposedly 6000 CL40 is faster

maybe if it was hynix and not samsung I'd maybe believe thatt

yeah idk if I believe any 6000 C40 kit
https://www.igorslab.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-FPS-1080p-4.png

you'd be looking at maybe 1-2% if anything at all

for context here the samsung is tuned, vs the hynix at xmp/expo

[shut lava]

I think it was techspot's multi game benchmark average that showed a bigger difference between CAS 30 and CAS 40 DDR5 6000 on a different non 3D V Cache CPU and the 5600 and CAS 40 6000 were the same FPS.

Its probably a lower difference in a less powerful GPU also.

[cinder kiln]

Ok, in your defence, I think I know which test you're talking about

However Techspot and Ram knowledge is almost like oil and water

He tries but he can never really crack iit

I think this is the one you're talking about ye?

[shut lava]

It might be I'd have to go back and look

I thought it was a different chart with more CPUs

[jolly inlet]

It's that last timing on the Ryzen system EXPO profile that makes some of the biggest difference. There's a reason they included it in the AMD targeted profile.

[cinder kiln]

I'm not seeiing any test with 5600

and yes, that expo timing iirc is trefi

which does make a difference

my point is you can have any hynix kit and achieve the same result on ryzen 7k as any other xmp/expo kit or better

you can literally import those timings, or if more lazy, just bump the frequency all the same

let alone it being that hynix is just faster in a vacuum

but again, we could still go the other direction, $80 12600kf off of tiktok shop, $130 B760m pg riptide for bclk overclocking, $80 hynix kit

you'd spend the equivalence of a 5800x3d, and I would argue both would warrant similar coolers

[fair moon]

Anyone know if an arc a750 for $180 is a decent buy?

[cinder kiln]

yes

It is

if you know how to use it

arc is like, I wanna say, early rdna? rn

there are a lot of stability and support issues still prevalent

but when it works, it works reaaalllyyy well

[fair moon]

Cause IIRC when it came out the 6600 beat it pretty good in gaming but I assume drivers have gotten better

[cinder kiln]

it's even better now

when it works it sits above a 3060ti or close

sometimes trades lower

[fair moon]

Dang.

[cinder kiln]

but you don't get day 1 game drivers

playing with arc control breaks everything

let alone any overclocking of any kind

[jolly inlet]

If you're prepared to deal with minor issues in some games and major issues when games are new, then Arc is pretty darn good for that price

[cinder kiln]

some old games are just, useless

yeah pretty much

[jolly inlet]

I've been considering getting an Arc card for my Plex server. The A580 is just the kind of thing I need for 4k transcode. I'll nab an A750 if it's close in price.

[cinder kiln]

Arc would be interesting for me

I just don't have another system needing it

maybe if I sold the old laptop?

[jolly inlet]

Put it in another computer as a secondary card so you can switch between them as needed

[cinder kiln]

would give me a great reason to build an itx A580 rig tbh

nah

I'd need a new psu

what I could do

itix case with atx psu

P-GM

💥

use 7600 a620i, a 1tb ssd and a a580 or a750

[jolly inlet]

No new PSU needed, just use the daisy chains since you'll only be loading one card at a time

[cinder kiln]

but then I need new cable

REEEE

actually curious now

what would a cheap itx A750 look like for me