tech-deals-discussion

[azure pond]

On ebay and best buy within the last year I've still seen 710 in pcs labeled gaming pcs

And 730

[cinder kiln]

There you go

Compared to that a 4060 would definitely feel high end

[azure pond]

I cannot type wow

[pulsar fable]

...my amd bulldozer CPU has a better GPU integrated into it than a gt710

[azure pond]

Mhm

[cinder kiln]

I would also say that's a nice deterrent too

People will see that and think, "yay, high end for 900"

And so they more likely buy the sensible laptop instead of some 4080/4090 hotbox

[grand orbit]

710

[keen marsh]

3rd gen intel i5 with igpu only.

[grand orbit]

You've seen that advertised as gaming pc tho?

[keen marsh]

Yes

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-OptiPlex-Desktop-Computer-Keyboard/dp/B0BKZTSKKR This ones an I7 but you get the point

[azure pond]

Not the rgb optiplex

[keen marsh]

It doesn't say gaming PC in the listing but it does show up if you search gaming pc on amazon

because the way they listed it

"Specific Uses For Product Gaming"

[stoic crest]

[keen marsh]

And then when you go to mini computers you can get celerons and stuff listed as gaming pc's

https://www.amazon.com/Blackview-Computer-Processor-Business-Ethernet/dp/B0BJJZYSLB/ "Intel N5095" lmao

What I want is a GHF51 SBC so I could make a Steam Deck mini thats mostly functional. but they are 400$ so it'd be way too expensive for the performance.

2C/4T Ryzen powered SBC with Vega 3 lol

Would be around the same performance as the Loki Zero or Anbernic win600 but for twice the price.

[high radish]

That's pretty good deal

[obtuse sandal]

@azure pond why do you think the case is a bad deal?

[azure pond]

It's got a solid front, if someone likes the aesthetic that much it's fine but there's a good few better options at that price point

Multiple fractal design cases and g360a

[obtuse sandal]

I see. Thanks for telling me

[cinder kiln]

As someone who's owned the case, it's not worth $90

Let alone anything it would normally sell higher for

[brisk sphinx]

@azure pond that PSU says it’s $250 for me

[high radish]

They pulled coupon already

[high radish]

I see x670 mobo for 150$ but checkout is closed duo shabbat https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1725923-REG/msi_x670propwifi_pro_x670_p_wifi_am5.html

[grand orbit]

That's a pretty good deal

[lime python]

Is micro center worth a stop if I don’t really need anything but am traveling by one for the first time?

[grand orbit]

I've heard it's nice to walk around but honestly unless you're going to sight see it or potentially want to browse deals/look at cases/monitors in person i don't see much of a point

[tiny heron]

If you go on the website and choose the store they have a virtual walk through as well

[jolly inlet]

You can always take advantage of their new customer deals and get a 2TB SSD for like $30

[civic sun]

I should probably do that

[azure pond]

ty fal

[umbral horizon]

Can I trade in multiple gpu's for one purchase

[grand orbit]

Doubt it

[umbral horizon]

Boo

[tawdry dragon]

Just sell them lol

[umbral horizon]

I spose

[brisk sphinx]

Gpu trade ins would be nice at MC

[torpid night]

“I’d like a quote for my abused RX 580”
“$65”
Doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. They’d probably pull a Game Stop on everybody

[fair moon]

Whatever they buy it for needs to leave a margin for them to male make profit off of it

[forest prairie]

male profit

[grand orbit]

Did he stutter?

[forest prairie]

male profit

[cinder kiln]

male profit

[stoic crest]

female profit

[forest prairie]

I would like to see female profit tbh

[umbral horizon]

Yeah but if they became known as "the place you can get some side cash for old parts" that'll get people in the door, in the system, and into coming back

Smaller used places like Disc Replay don't give you a lot for what you bring in but people do it all the time

Because they know they can just offload junk and get lunch money for it

[forest prairie]

Boutta get the gt730 dlc

[tawdry dragon]

part of the esports expansion 💪

[azure pond]

Is this anything special? I'm assuming not since it's $10 a fan, but c12c 3 pack rgb is oos as far as I can tell and p12 argb are expensive rn
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HJPHJMH

If whoever has input on these thinks it's worth posting then please do

[tawdry dragon]

wdym oos? https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-TL-C12C-S-Computer-Included-Quantities）/dp/B0BKKFBR9R

pcpp is acting up, I'm guessing it has the wrong link or something because it's a completely different price as well

[azure pond]

Oh, nice

Shoulda checked myself, ty

[tawdry dragon]

yeah np, and by the way, the sickleflow is nothing special at all.

[uncut portal]

Is the solidgm ssd good offer?

Also what does it mean by back order

[azure pond]

Yes it is a good price

Backorder means it'll take a while to come

[uncut portal]

How long usually

[azure pond]

M450 would be just as good for gaming and is $28 after rebate, but rebate is annoying

It varies

It could be a week it could be two months, it should give you an estimate (it normally comes a good bit before the estimate) when you go to checkout/shipping

[uncut portal]

I don’t wanna do rebate lol

[uncut portal]

Oh ok

So you think I should buy it?

Is it better than the m450?

[azure pond]

Better is subjective, but technichally yeah

[uncut portal]

Is there no difference?

[azure pond]

The difference just doesn't matter for gaming

[grand orbit]

There is but the average user won't see a very noticeable

[uncut portal]

Ok

[uncut portal]

I mean imma use the PC not just for gaming lol

[azure pond]

My choice between the two, if p41 plus is cheaper or within like $2, it would be the p41 plus

[azure pond]

Like what?

[uncut portal]

I guess programming

M450 is 37 while the solidgm is 32

[azure pond]

Still doubt it'd make a difference, but can't hurt

[uncut portal]

After taxes and all that

[uncut portal]

Alright

[grand orbit]

Programming you'll notice even less lol

[uncut portal]

Hmm alright

[silver remnant]

when y’all think the 4070 ti or 4090 will be cheaper

and will they have black friday deals

trying to pair up my 13700k

huuuuuuge difference in my computer with the new cpu actually ridiculous

[cinder kiln]

possibly black friday or christmas, but I'd say unlikely

nvidia has been confirmed to starve supply for 40 series

so they can keep demand and price high

if you want better value for money, go with a 6950XT or 7900XT/XTX

[brisk sphinx]

^

Coming from a 4090 owner, as nice as it is, unless you absolutely need the extra computing power, there’s no point to it

Just get a 6950xt or 7900XTX

[jolly inlet]

And also so they can allocate as much silicon to their AI chips as they can, since that's the money maker right now

[silver remnant]

969 for the 7900 wow

id just wait for black friday for sure

[azure pond]

xtx was just $880

a couple days ago

it went as low as $830 on prime day

[uncut portal]

How good is the motherboard and ssd combo

[tawdry dragon]

It's about the price you'd get with those new, maybe a bit less.

[azure pond]

Yeah bit less

It's a ddr5 mobo so not a bad deal

[umbral horizon]

2 pack babyyy

[grand orbit]

Decent, effectively the motherboard is 120$ in that combo if you take the ssd at normal retail price

[high radish]

if you need both items it's pretty good deal that ssd is good for gaming btw . Not the best for big file transfers etc but decent for gaming

[azure pond]

Like 98% of nvme ssds are good for gaming lol

[trim pier]

What’s the difference between 620, 650, and 670?

Boards of course

[torpid night]

Don’t forget 690 (idk the differences but bigger number is always better)

[trim pier]

Only amd I’m talking about

[torpid night]

Ah

[cinder kiln]

io

More connectivity, more features

For core performance? Nothing

Or "nothing" in the true sense

[trim pier]

Seen it lower @uncut portal

[uncut portal]

Ong?

[trim pier]

129.99

Just on a random day

[cinder kiln]

140 is ok tho

Just not really a deal

[uncut portal]

Oh ok

I’m still waiting for decent deal for the 5600 so I can buy it

Y’all should lmk if y’all see it

[tawdry dragon]

I got a 5600x for my sister's build for $120 a few weeks back

And the 5600 used to be $120 iirc, they just raised the price

[uncut portal]

When bro

I be missing all the deals

[tawdry dragon]

prime day I think

I keep a lookout for deals almost constantly

[uncut portal]

Send me them pwease

I might as well wait for Black Friday

[tawdry dragon]

I mean, this seems like a decent deal https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/data-storage/cssd-f2000gbmp600cxt/mp600-core-xt-2tb-pcie-4-0-gen4-x-4-nvme-m-2-ssd-cssd-f2000gbmp600cxt?utm_source=Slickdeals_LLC_10451&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=490888_Online Tracking Link&utm_content=Corsair&clickid=1JNU6XzKQxyNROqRXqQDewRjUkFUGLQBRXyIVg0&utm_coupon=Deal&irgwc=1

but it's about the same as the ud90

so not really a deal

[tawdry dragon]

I'm waiting for a good deal to buy a drone/gaming laptop rn

[uncut portal]

Why a gaming laptop?

[tawdry dragon]

current laptop is failing me because of lack of vram, so I want something that I can use on the go to do gaming/schoolwork without my laptop lagging

and I already have a pc that I upgraded just recently.

[azure pond]

Eh kinda mediocre

Tech is just gaming, so there's cheaper options

[tawdry dragon]

I was just showing a deal, not something specifically for him

[marsh sphinx]

MP44L 2TB for $70?

[fair moon]

https://www.newegg.com/solidigm-2tb-p41-plus/p/N82E16820329022

[tawdry dragon]

Someone already sent this

I already have a killer PC, and a cheap laptop

But the laptop is holding me back

[light holly]

Hey, this has a word in it that the chat filter would not be ok with.

[trim pier]

2 words that everybody’s already heard or is gonna hear in their life

[light holly]

2 words that are not ok in this server though.

[trim pier]

Plus it’s at the VERY END

[light holly]

So?

[trim pier]

It gives the video meaning, as if it’s some sort of plot inside a book

plus you should search how many times I’ve sent that here

And nobody had a problem with it

[light holly]

This is still a pg server with kids who's parents may not be ok with those words.

I for sure wouldn't want my children to watch that due to the words in that video

[trim pier]

nothing to make a big deal out of, you want it deleted? Fine. but letting you know that eventually EVERYONE is gonna know it unless they’re locked inside a basement with no clue of what social media is.

[light holly]

It's not a point of whether EVERYONE will eventually see it. It's a point of this is a PG server with kids and even adults who do not appreciate that kind of language. There are set rules for this server for a reason. Just because you don't find it offensive doesn't make the rules not apply to you.

[trim pier]

#anime message #general-chat message #building-and-recc-chat message I don't wanna continue this fraudulent of an arguement any longer but i'll use your point. No hate to them at all but these aren't so "PG" if you tell me, sure they don't swear but oh I don't want my kids watching bloody fights, getting nightmares, or seeing promotion of dangerous actions (even though it really isn't)

I understand that two swear words are horrible here, but if you're moderating me I shouldn't be the only one. This server has mods + admins roles, it's more of their area to say not you. DMing a mod, idk if they have a mod bot here for that is even a better solution cause it removes a situation like this from the start and flood tech-deals discussion

[steel wren]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[forest prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bed-laying-lazy-dzekas-gif-20013760

[steel wren]

funny how our own humanity make us to dump problems into others instead of facing them ourselves xD

everytime 😛

[tawdry dragon]

but he has a point, that's not the first time that video has been sent

[steel wren]

yeah he is right on that one sadly mods cant be everywhere, however the second part is totally wrong "This server has mods + admins roles, it's more of their area to say not you" thats wrong, its kind of a "civic duty" as users as well to stop these types of rule violations to happen to make the server as PG friendly as possible, mods or not.

Just be an adult and accept that you made a violation and try not to make it again, if you see other doing the same, just ask them to stop, dont use them as an excuse to fall on the same thing, easy as that.

[umbral horizon]

No dude, someone said "No". I can't handle that kind of simple rejection.

[light holly]

I get your point, however your video is what I saw. These others I did not, so therefore I couldn't have said anything (ignorance is bliss). You are right, the mods+admins are the ones with the power but, me, as a part of this community who follows the rules, expects the same from other members and will hold them accountable. It's not solely up to the mods+admins to make sure people are following the standards set by the higher powers of the server. This is 100% a community server and I am part of that community so I will not stay silent when something like this is posted. I didn't say something to attack you specifically and if you feel like that is so, I apologize. However, the fact remains that you posted offensive material in a server that says not to. It doesn't matter that someone else has posted offensive material in this situation. If I had seen them, I would have said something to them as well.

I've said my piece. I will not continue this further

[steel wren]

well said pal 🙂

[umbral horizon]

"Last word" fiiiiiight

[pallid geyser]

[fair moon]

I trust reo has good intentions and I get the point about it being a community but also I've seen minimodding go bad before

[fleet marlin]

Some good points spread around. Not to attempt mini-mod, but perhaps a ways past time to let this convo lie down or at least relocate it.

[fair moon]

@azure pond that's tempting

However if I buy a riser cable to vertical mount my gpu in my current case that also means getting an aio for the cpu

And then most likely rebuilding the PC in a different "upside down" config

It's tempting though

[uncut portal]

It will look cool tho but if it costs way more to buy a new aio and all that it’s not worth

[cinder kiln]

[fair moon]

I don't have a glass panel so visually it would be the exact same lol

[uncut portal]

Yeah there’s no point then

[fair moon]

Would probably see a slight thermal improvement but not sure

Not solely from vert mount but rather the airflow change

[uncut portal]

But do you really need a slight improvement

[fair moon]

wouldn't hurt, gpu currently hits 80c under full load

probably not worth the cost and time though

[uncut portal]

Are you always on full load tho? I

[uncut portal]

I mean if you want to you can

[fair moon]

no only when gaming

[uncut portal]

If you’re gonna do that might as well get a better cpu or some too

[fair moon]

3060ti/5600x

next big upgrade will be gpu not cpu

[uncut portal]

What gpu are you gonna try getting

[fair moon]

can't say now, probably won't be for at least a year

[uncut portal]

Ah alright

[azure pond]

@trim pier @marsh sphinx

[trim pier]

?

HOLY

ABZHDBWNSKDKCODKS

[trim pier]

Is the 70$ difference tho worth it

@azure pond #tech-deals

[marsh sphinx]

Would definitely buy it but ain’t got the spare cash

[trim pier]

• I might get a 6950xt tbh

Waiting for that 529.99$ one

[azure pond]

Wdym

Oh alr

I'd say 6950xt would be worth it then but idk when that sale will happen again

Or if it will

[trim pier]

True

[trim pier]

70$ difference for 7800xt, 6950xt has been as low as 529.99

[azure pond]

7800xt def is not worth it at $70 more

I'd say either same price or within $25

[trim pier]

• shipping takes a month, which i can make 1.4k in that month 😭

[azure pond]

Oh didn't see that it was backordered

It'll likely come much sooner than that tho

[trim pier]

True

But i’d have to pay around 200$ before the card even arrives

Which hey it isn’t bad but that’s only when it’s expected

[high radish]

Mine has been delivered

[trim pier]

Lucky

[high radish]

[high radish]

is 6800xt worth 430 ? isn't 7800xt for 450$ better deal ?

[grand orbit]

nope pretty much same perf

[high radish]

[azure pond]

7800xt isn't $450

7700xt is

[high radish]

Wasn't it 400&450 ?

[azure pond]

No

450 and 500

[high radish]

My memory sux lol

[trim pier]

Still waiting for the 6950xt

Didn’t but 6800xt sadly

Buy*

[high radish]

You ordered for 530$ ?

[trim pier]

Nah, just waiting for it to come back

[high radish]

[trim pier]

Ngl i feel like this is a monthly thing

Like when was the 6950xt for 529.99$?

[fair moon]

Looking in #tech-deals I don't see it under $600

[trim pier]

It was definitely 529.99

[fair moon]

Oh my bad

It was 529 once

#tech-deals message

Which may have been a price error

Shortly after that was posted it got bumped to $629 and the 6800xt on the same Amazon listing is $529

[pulsar fable]

So... 6800xt for the mid end soon?

[azure pond]

I'd say 6800xt kinda is mid end now

Higher end of mid end, but mid end

[fair moon]

Top of mid end or bottom high end

Right on the brink imo

Depends on your frame of reference I guess

[grand orbit]

if you wanna talk about tech deals talk here please

@tiny olive

[fair moon]

"how dare they put something on sale after I bought it not on sale >:("

[tawdry dragon]

It's my fault if I buy something not on sale but it goes on sale later, but when it goes on a BIGGER sale after I bought it on sale it infuriates me

[fair moon]

Iirc there was actually a slightly deeper Deck sale a while ago

[cloud hornet]

"How dare the price lower by $0.01 after 69420 millennia after I bought it"

[tiny olive]

Close.... but how dare they put it on a better sale..... 😦

[light holly]

How dare I have bought something before waiting for it to go on sale

[tawdry dragon]

I bought stuff on a good sale, and a month later it was an extra $50 off

[tiny olive]

Echo

[tawdry dragon]

I mean, look further up, I said it first lol

[keen marsh]

If you bought it before the sale, message steam, its very likely they'll send the difference @tiny olive Depending how recently it was you bought it

[jolly inlet]

It was the same discount, 10-20% off during summer sale

[azure pond]

Hey @fair moon 7600s are down to $230 w/o rebate

Oh nvm they're back up to 260

[fair moon]

Damn really?

Oh

[azure pond]

They were for a few days though

[tiny olive]

A few months back. I got it on the first sale, I think it was 750 total w tax, s and h (10% off?)

Totl

[unreal geode]

hey i have a flashdrive that can store around 128 gb of storage in it
i was thinking of selling it
its a sandisk and i was wondering what price you think it would go for

[light holly]

Can buy a brand new 256gb SanDisk for $10 +/-

So.. like a few bucks lol

[unreal geode]

shoot

at least i tried

i mean i got this painting i did in art class

ik its not tech but like

i could probably make some money off it by selling it to some rich people

[keen marsh]

There was an earlier discount in March for it's year anniversary that was only 10% off across the board.

[keen marsh]

Ah so probably in March then for it's year anniversary

That was when I bought my 2nd steam deck, the 64gb version that I put a 1tb SSD in for Windows.

[tiny olive]

I got the 1tb in there too. Now I need a dock.

[light holly]

12700kf $150 never opened.. Should I grab it?

[stoic crest]

ye

[cinder kiln]

absolutely

[trim pier]

25$ used TX850M Corsair on FBM for me

No clue if that’s any good

I think it says A tier on the psu list?

[cinder kiln]

that would be a very good one iirc if it's a new one

I think the older model is still fairly decent

damn, 1000W? that's tempting

[trim pier]

Fr

[trim pier]

No clue if it is the newer or older,

[cinder kiln]

you can tell by the label

coloured is like, 2015

[trim pier]

Older ngl

[cinder kiln]

oh god that's hella old

[trim pier]

So not worth the 25$ ? 😭

[cinder kiln]

not sure

not studied enough on psus lol

that's definitely like, closer to a decade old

that 1000W looks like a price error

the 850W is also on sale for 109

I'm pretty sure that's a price error

anyone who needs a decent B tier 1000W that's a good price

[trim pier]

HOLY @cinder kiln 6800xt is 429.99 again

[cinder kiln]

that's another good sale

[trim pier]

Should I downpay it for 1440p or do 6950xy

[cinder kiln]

that's one of the best sales rn for radeon

you could do that with the 13600k and the ud1000gm

that would be an awesome combo

[trim pier]

Cause like.. 117$ downpay + 86$ per month over 5 months

For the 6800xt ^

[cinder kiln]

I'd do that with the psu if you need a new psu

the ud1000gm

it's a b tier but you're also not near 1000W with your specs so it's more than fine, good price

that's basically 750W new price

[trim pier]

NO

IT WENT OOS

[cinder kiln]

lol

psu still in stock

👀

[trim pier]

Ik

But I have a 750w

I don’t oc either 😭

[cinder kiln]

which 750w

[high radish]

Bh checkout is closed

[trim pier]

Gt

Evga

B tier

[cinder kiln]

oh you're fine then if the cpu is kept stock

[trim pier]

Ye

Btw

[cinder kiln]

that's kinda pushing it for a 6950 tho

[trim pier]

6950xt at 172$ downpay + 126 per month for 5 months

[cinder kiln]

how much total tho

630?

[trim pier]

Wait

[cinder kiln]

pass

[trim pier]

4 payments of 126$

[cinder kiln]

630 is a pass

[trim pier]

And a down payment of 176

[trim pier]

Damn

[cinder kiln]

430 for 6800xt is too much better

[trim pier]

It’s oos 😭

But performance

[cinder kiln]

rip

[trim pier]

Fr

[cinder kiln]

you could camp the website to see if the price sticks until reopening

[trim pier]

But the uh 6800xt vs 6950xt for price and performance

Like wouldn’t 6950xt still be better?

[cinder kiln]

nope

[trim pier]

Ah

[cinder kiln]

6950 is not 30% better than 6800xt

both are navi 21

that's the difference of like, 6700xt to 6800xt

big jump

6900xt isn't too much further ahead of it's little brother

[radiant leaf]

where

[cinder kiln]

oos

like, 5 minutes ago

[radiant leaf]

damn

[trim pier]

Rip they added shipping to the gigabyte

I think

[trim pier]

@radiant leaf

The card is back for 429.99 but it’s failing to add to cart and etc

Likely oos still

Just lyk though

Nvm

It is oos

Bruh

[trim pier]

I believe the difference between rev.2 and rev.1 is the 12 pin pcie slot and maybe updated parts is all, not 100%.

[cinder kiln]

Just the 12vhpwr ye

[cinder kiln]

I want that udgm dammit

[trim pier]

Same

Also I keep getting teased by amazon

This was on my screen, tried buying and it was oos

[pallid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/state-farm-gotta-be-quicker-than-that-almost-had-it-gif-13263172252295108925

[grand orbit]

Goddd dammmm

I just read the OOS message

Pepehands

[fair moon]

You can get 3x iBuyPower PCs with 3080ti, 11700KF, 1TB SSD for $2736 from GameStop with their buy one get 2 free clearance deal

If you buy the Pro membership it probably comes out to ~$920 per pc

Maybe a little more idk

[azure pond]

I find that kinda funny

[fair moon]

I will say I've looked at their buy one get one free clearance before and it does seem like some of the prices have increased for the b1g2f

Oh and the PCs might be pre-owned, not sure. It says they have a 7 day money back guarantee and a 1 year warranty

[light bay]

7 day money back guarantee? It'd be a real shame if it turned out I wasn't satisfied with 2/3 of the PCs I got...

[fair moon]

I doubt they'd let you refund only part of the purchase though. You're technically paying full price for 1 and getting the others as a deal, not getting each for ~920

[light bay]

Bummer

[pulsar fable]

Oh wow it exists

[keen marsh]

See if its available in any store near you? its not for me

[fleet marlin]

what a chump. (same item, 150 is just the 1st time it's been relisted)

[stoic crest]

lmao

wants 100 outta it

[forest prairie]

I'll take it for 50

[cloud hornet]

I'll take it for $1500

[forest prairie]

you will?

ok damn

[jolly inlet]

Sold, will send once money is received

[grand orbit]

@fleet marlin while it's a great value cooler it's it's normal price

[trim pier]

Day 3 of waiting for 6800xt back in stock through amazon

[fair moon]

PCPartPicker doesn't like it but that rosewill case says max 150mm CPU cooler so the Thermalright x 120 and SE214XT should in theory fit

[azure pond]

Whatever it fits, $50 for a case and psu is not bad at all

[fair moon]

Yeah for sure

[azure pond]

I doubt the psu is any good but I also doubt it'd have any issues running an igpu

If its decent maybe a 6600/xt/6650xt/7600 and whatever else

[fair moon]

Or just a lower power card, 6600/xt

6600 pulls around 100w iirc

With a sub 100w cpu that would be fine

[azure pond]

With a 400w psu and a low wattage cpu like 12400f or 5600/lower you'd be fine with a 3060 ti

As long as the psu isn't crap

[shut lava]

I thought about grabbing that Pro Art B660 board, however I've cut back on my PC building side business. I looked in some boxes and I have enough spare parts sitting around for another PC minus a motherboard, so I just want back and not its out of stock. There are lower priced LGA1700 boards, but that one looked nice.

[azure pond]

Yeah its one of the higher end b660s, b660m pro rs is fine for up to a 12700, but its got a good bit less features and definitely worse vrms

[trim pier]

Idk if that 400$ 6800 is even worth

and tbh I think that 6800xt for 429.99 was a pricing error

cause the 6800 is going for same price

[burnt prawn]

hey, saw the deal with the Ryzen 7 7700X and was wondering if anyone knew if the radeon 6800xt would be a good fit for it. thanks

[stoic crest]

yes

it won't have any issues

[fair moon]

It almost certainly was

Wait I was thinking 6950xt for $529

[torpid night]

Yes

[olive lance]

yeah

[pallid geyser]

man. so hard not to get that monitor

been so close to pulling the trigger lately on one

don't need it

[trim pier]

1080p?

[pallid geyser]

the 1440p one

[trim pier]

Oh ya ik, but are you at 1080p?

[pallid geyser]

oh, nah, im at 1440p on my main monitor. my second is just a lil piece of crap 1080p 60hz tho

wanna replace it

[azure pond]

I mean, 1080p 60hz is fine if the panel is decent, but if you want better 1440p IPS 75hz might be worth it instead if it's cheaper/better quality panel instead of higher refresh

[pallid geyser]

yeah, i typically use it for discord and youtube while gaming

just dont wanna spend the money

lmao

[marsh sphinx]

Hi, I was considering getting a laptop this upcoming week

And was wondering how to go about researching different options

Also, how do I come across the best deals out there?

[stoic crest]

What's your budget and use case for a laptop?

[marsh sphinx]

Can’t go over $1200-ish

I’d mainly use it to study and to produce music and make songs (FL Studio, Pro Tools, and such tools)

I want it to be able to run audio plugins comfortably

(Virtual instruments)

Durability is also important for me

[stoic crest]

then you'd want to get something with as good of a cpu as you could get

avoid msi laptops with 12th and 13th gen intel cpus paired with nvidia 40 series

msi has cheaped out too much with this year

[marsh sphinx]

This is alien-language to me

[cinder kiln]

Best buy time

G14 go brrr

[stoic crest]

look for zephyrus g14 in best buy

get the one with the best cpu you could get

[marsh sphinx]

I just need something that’s going to run FL Studio smoothly not going to lie

And other audio software

Got you, I’ll check it out

[cinder kiln]

What you want is ryzen 6000 or 7000

Those are excellent for battery life

Which is your #1 want in a laptop imo

Then a nice gpu like, 3060/4050/3070/3070 Ti

One of those

16gb ram

I'm generalising this pretty significantly

[marsh sphinx]

Do I really need a good GPU though? I won’t be gaming

(In my case)

[cinder kiln]

Oh, then no not really

But gaming laptops do represent the best value for money

[marsh sphinx]

Battery life… to an extent I guess

[cinder kiln]

If you want the laptop to be able to last a long time it helps a lot to have a good gpu

Especially for unknown projects

[marsh sphinx]

RAM and CPU seem important for music

[cinder kiln]

Yes

[cloud hornet]

Popping in here for a small mention that if you're doing realtime audio work, let them know. audio latency is important for realtime stuff

[cinder kiln]

Good codec too if possible so I'd recommend good audio equipment

Like a nice pair of cans and the apple dac

[marsh sphinx]

I eventually want to get into real-time

[cinder kiln]

@stoic crest you can help them look ye? I'm about to jump out

[marsh sphinx]

But am not currently practicing it

[cloud hornet]

Im also deliving for some 6hrs or so, so cant really help rn either.

[stoic crest]

ye i can

but best buy is not cooperating rn

ugh

[marsh sphinx]

Can we maybe continue this convo tomorrow?

I’m about to hit the sack

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah, didn’t find the G14

Only found a $1,500 G14

[marsh sphinx]

I’m not familiar with these terms

[stoic crest]

yeah that's fine with me

[marsh sphinx]

Alright

I’ll ping you

Thank you guys

[cinder kiln]

Oh, codec is basically the chip that turns data into sound

Good codec = better quality sound

For your headphones to receive

[proper folio]

Looking to build a pc but not in any rush. Will prob shoot to buy everything by end of year.

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GP-UD1000GM-PG5-Certified-Modular/dp/B0BTJYYTGM/ref=asc_df_B0BTJYYTGM/

Is this psu a good enough deal to buy before getting other components?

[cinder kiln]

Solid deal, yes

[azure pond]

I wouldnt buy parts separately unless you're upgrading a build part by part

[prisma mortar]

tbf

psu doesn't matter as much

i def wouldn't buy parts seperatly asides from case, psu, and fans

everything else should be bought together though

case, fans, and psu market doesn't change too much, so if you see a good deal on those, imo you could grab it
and 1000w would power virtually any consumer system

[high radish]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-gamers-nexus-pc-bomb-planted-gif-22845602

[trim pier]

@dull flame nice deal but tbh not worth

Rim brakes, no mud flaps, 0 suspension, and small frame/wheels

[dull flame]

Coca cola

[trim pier]

Nice

[dull flame]

🙂

[light bay]

@white escarp he's all yours bro

[white escarp]

👍

[tiny heron]

🫡

[marsh sphinx]

@cinder kiln@stoic crest

Back at it

Do you guys mind guiding me a little?

[stoic crest]

sure

[marsh sphinx]

You said G14 right

[stoic crest]

mhm, or anything zephyrus g series

durable build and decent hardware

[marsh sphinx]

G14 seems to exceed my budget

[stoic crest]

legion 5 is also compelling

[marsh sphinx]

Which websites should I be looking at

Doesn't PCPP list the cheapest prices for a given piece of hardware

[trim pier]

It does?

Just it’s not always accurate

[marsh sphinx]

Maybe not for laptops

[jolly inlet]

It's the cheapest that the site knows of, not always the absolute cheapest

It's especially problematic outside the US where it doesn't know about local retailers, so it only lists newegg international

[marsh sphinx]

I'm in the US

[stoic crest]

best buy, newegg, b&h

and amazon

ebay antonline shop maybe?

[light bay]

Best buy has a eBay that also has good deals sometimes

[marsh sphinx]

This is so confusing

There's like a million G14s on Newegg

[stoic crest]

yeah, get one with latest cpu

higher number better in your use case

[marsh sphinx]

So

What

Ryzen 9?

Well

The actual chip

Ryzen 9 is just branding

[stoic crest]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745674-REG/lenovo_82wk0082us_16_legion_pro_5i.html

this looks great

tho it's $1269

[marsh sphinx]

Retail is $1,799?

Damn

So good deal probably?

I think I can strech it to $1,269

$1,799 is probably MSRP

[stoic crest]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745673-REG/lenovo_82xv005gus_15_6_loq_15irh8_gaming.html

[marsh sphinx]

So maybe

[stoic crest]

still good cpu

$899

but you get a mostly plastic build

it's not an issue

just a note

[marsh sphinx]

Plastic feels hella cheap

And isn't as durable

Is it not

[stoic crest]

plastic of modern laptops are pretty good now

[marsh sphinx]

I'm on a MacBook right now

I like the way the material feels

[stoic crest]

but aluminum is certainly better

[marsh sphinx]

Not plastic

Right

[stoic crest]

legion pro 5i would be better then

if you can stretch your budget

[marsh sphinx]

A Zephyrus?

[marsh sphinx]

Better than

[stoic crest]

zephyrus is thin and light

legion is more chunky but it's great

[marsh sphinx]

Specs-wise, what's better?

Portability would be a nice thing to have

Because I might be taking my laptop to class from time to time

[stoic crest]

it depends really, zephyrus often offers worse parts per dollar

[marsh sphinx]

However

Specs over anything else

I don't want to "overkill" though

[stoic crest]

legion pro 5i is a bit of a handful to carry, but its specs are worth it

[marsh sphinx]

Like... FL Studio ran fairly smoothly on a PC I used to own

And that PC was a Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB of RAM, GTX1660

Crashed sometimes though

[stoic crest]

legion will breeze through fl studio without issues

[marsh sphinx]

Would "downgrading" a little make sense for me? To save a couple of bucks

Don't get me wrong, the Legion seems like a great choice

[stoic crest]

it's fine, perfectly

i just need to hunt deals atm

[marsh sphinx]

But aren't its specs "overkill" for music production

[stoic crest]

long term usability is nice though

[marsh sphinx]

If there are better deals for less money, maybe I should consider other options too?

That's right

[stoic crest]

yes

https://www.newegg.com/eclipse-gray-asus-rog-strix-g16-g614ju-ns54-gaming/p/N82E16834236429

you could get this

rog strix g16 with i5 13450HX

it's just $999

[marsh sphinx]

Is it considerably worse than the Legion

[stoic crest]

nope

just less ram

[marsh sphinx]

Or other options I could get for +$200

[stoic crest]

16gb opposed of 32

yeah i can look for more

[marsh sphinx]

Thank you

[marsh sphinx]

My PC had 16

Is that not enough?

Why would one need 32

[stoic crest]

in audio production 16 is kinda not enough

that's why you got crashes

[marsh sphinx]

Really?

I thought my crashes were CPU-related

[stoic crest]

and cpu related, partly yes

ryzen 5 2600 isn't all that fast by any means

hopping to intel 13th gen would be night and day

[marsh sphinx]

Got the job done back in the day

Right

You can't imagine how slow my current MacBook is

[stoic crest]

ram is minor thing to worry

16 is still usable

[marsh sphinx]

For sure

Plus, upgrades are a thing right? When it comes to laptops (PCs in general)

Can't you just switch out your RAM sticks if you need more

In the future

[stoic crest]

yes

you could in these laptops i have sent to you

[marsh sphinx]

Right

So going for the $999 one is probably a good choice

If the only major difference is the extra RAM

[stoic crest]

other options are over 1200

[marsh sphinx]

When comparing it to the $1,200 one

Right

[stoic crest]

i7 version of g16 is also 1267

too expensive, not needed anyway

[marsh sphinx]

Probably not

I don't know much about computers though so you tell me 😹

[stoic crest]

https://www.amazon.com/Zephyrus-Special-Pantone-Validated-GA401QEC-K2064T/dp/B09VS7971V/ref=pd_aw_pspc_dp_m_m_5?pd_rd_w=lyp3I&content-id=amzn1.sym.bf5038ff-fa03-4dd5-b515-682974a204ae&pf_rd_p=bf5038ff-fa03-4dd5-b515-682974a204ae&pf_rd_r=EBTTEP9872P8DBRGH9D0&pd_rd_wg=utidc&pd_rd_r=ee6d448d-ae1d-45cd-a833-2c38325cae2e&pd_rd_i=B09VS7971V

erm there's also this zephyrus g14

but considerably worse cpu

compared to newer offerings

if you want the mostly similar experience to a mac, zephyrus is close

[marsh sphinx]

I don't mind switching

I'm going get used to it anyways

To my new laptop I mean

Its build, etc.

[stoic crest]

then g16 will do

you can disable rgb if you don't wanna look too out of place lol

[marsh sphinx]

That's definitely a feature I need

[stoic crest]

frankly, i can't find anything that's worth mentioning other than the legion and g16

it's either too expensive, or just costs more with lesser parts

like less storage

[marsh sphinx]

That makes sense

So either G16 or Legion

[stoic crest]

mhm

[marsh sphinx]

https://www.newegg.com/eclipse-gray-asus-rog-strix-g16-g614ju-ns54-gaming/p/N82E16834236429

This is the G16 right

Which Legion are you referring to?

[stoic crest]

the bhphotovideo link

legion pro 5i

and yes that's the g16

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745674-REG/lenovo_82wk0082us_16_legion_pro_5i.html

https://www.newegg.com/eclipse-gray-asus-rog-strix-g16-g614ju-ns54-gaming/p/N82E16834236429

comes down to two choices

save money or push it

32gb at the moment is around $100 for ddr5 sodimm kits i believe

or less

oh they're just $85-70

depending on speed

999+70 https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb-262-pin-ddr5-so-dimm/p/N82E16820331808

for the g16 with ram kit

so comes down to just $1069 to have decked out ram

i gotta rest now, so imma leave it here. i hope it helps ya

[marsh sphinx]

Thank you, I’ll think about it a little and make a choice

Appreciate your help

[marsh sphinx]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-16-1-qhd-gaming-laptop-12th-gen-intel-core-i9-12900h-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-laptop-gpu-1tb-ssd-shadow-black/6518349.p?skuId=6518349

People also suggested this to me

Any thoughts? How does this Omen compare to the Asus and the Legion

[marsh sphinx]

Found this too

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125879480679

[tawdry dragon]

that omen isn't all that good gpu wise

acer nitro is the best option if you're gaming iirc since it has basically the best gpu you can get in this price point. But don't quote me on that since I haven't been doing much research on them recently

[marsh sphinx]

The thing is, I don't care all that much about gaming

I'm mainly trying to make music, and study

With occasional gaming

[tawdry dragon]

Music making and studying don't take all that much horsepower

[marsh sphinx]

Some people have been telling me all the GPUs I've been looking at are way too much

If gaming isn't my main thing

[marsh sphinx]

I've had bad experiences in the past

[tawdry dragon]

From a quick google search, I'd say that about right

[azure pond]

music making can

[marsh sphinx]

Terrible crashes while making a song

[azure pond]

music making youd want to focus on cpu perf and high speed/low latency ram, which is hard to find in a laptop (most laptops don't even have xmp)

[tawdry dragon]

I didn't read further up, but now that I think about the usage, the omen isn't the worst option

[azure pond]

so a good cpu would be the main focus

[tawdry dragon]

ddr5 could be an option

[azure pond]

ddr5 should be the only option in this case

[marsh sphinx]

I just want something that can run my semi-demanding music softwares smoothly

Nothing too fancy

[tawdry dragon]

he sent this one a bit up https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-16-1-qhd-gaming-laptop-12th-gen-intel-core-i9-12900h-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-laptop-gpu-1tb-ssd-shadow-black/6518349.p?skuId=6518349

[marsh sphinx]

I don't need a crazy graphics card or anything

[azure pond]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4728vs4749/Intel-i9-12900H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-6800H

[marsh sphinx]

Good CPU and good RAM (might switch to 32GB down the line), with enough storage

[azure pond]

12900h kinda slaps the 6800h

[marsh sphinx]

Seems to be all I really need

[tawdry dragon]

usually, high end cpus in laptops means an at least good gpu

[azure pond]

this seems like a very good option for you

[tawdry dragon]

so you're going to be getting a 3060/3050ti if you don't want a thin and light laptop (which will most certainly overheat/thermal throttle)

[azure pond]

at some best buys this is in the $900-1000 range for open box https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-16-wqxga-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i9-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-ssd-natural-silver/6537115.p?skuId=6537115

[marsh sphinx]

Oh yeah cooling is VERY important when I think about it

[tawdry dragon]

from what I remember, gaming laptops are just better because they don't thermal throttle as much as thin and lights, so I'm pretty sure that won't be as powerful as the omen

[marsh sphinx]

I can not deal with a laptop being on the verge of explosion

[tawdry dragon]

it won't explode, just get very hot and probably thermal throttle

[marsh sphinx]

Right

Ideally, I don't want that to happen

By explosion I mean fans making crazy amounts of noise

[tawdry dragon]

remember that I'm not an expert at laptops, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.

[tawdry dragon]

most laptops will do that anyways, some of them are just less noisy

[marsh sphinx]

Isn't open-box risky?

[marsh sphinx]

Looking for that

[azure pond]

not really, if it has issues return it

[tawdry dragon]

especially if you're putting a heavy load on the cpu, then the fans will kick on and start making noise

[tawdry dragon]

sadly the less noisy ones are the laptops with the massive thermal solutions and like 4 fans.

[marsh sphinx]

I'm sure most laptops made these days aren't excessively noisy anyways

[tawdry dragon]

Go look for some reviews of the laptops we recommended, and see the noise levels for yourself.

[azure pond]

they can be

my non gaming thin laptop has an mx550 and 1240p, it gets pretty toasty and not exactly quiet just playing minecraft

it probably needs a clean or repaste

[tawdry dragon]

My dell inspiron kicks on it's fans almost always while running nothing.

anyways I have to go, I'll see ya later

[marsh sphinx]

Omen right

[tawdry dragon]

good luck on the laptop choosing

[marsh sphinx]

Thank you

[tawdry dragon]

yep, make sure the specs are as close as possible

[marsh sphinx]

What do you mean as close

[tawdry dragon]

like make sure that the omen is the 12th gen i9 as in the listing

as in the video

[marsh sphinx]

Bet

[light holly]

I repasted mine that has a 1060 and 6700. After doing so, even when playing games neither component gets above 50c and rarely hear the fans.

[marsh sphinx]

@stoic crest

Hey, are you free to chat?

[stoic crest]

ye

[marsh sphinx]

I made a recap list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pUoepAhgP5A4_PPaZPAlakSw-9qc_lokVPCja3PJtbI/edit?usp=sharing

With like basic specs

Of the different options I'm considering

[stoic crest]

my opinion still leans towards asus offerings

[marsh sphinx]

Are there any laptops that stand out, that I should immediately get rid off

[stoic crest]

im a little bit biased since i own tuf a15 myself, but asus is genuinely good

[marsh sphinx]

Someone told me Acer Nitro 5 had terrible cooling

[stoic crest]

acer nitro 5 is fine, just that it's an all plastic laptop

nitro 5 since that generation is fine

fans can run absolutely silent when not under load

but the lenovo loq 15 has far better cpu for your task

for a cheaper price tag too

[marsh sphinx]

What would be the major differences between the Asus laptops you're leaning towards and the LOQ then?

[marsh sphinx]

I should probably just get cross Acer off my list then

[stoic crest]

build quality (they're all good but the asus offerings has aluminum on them) and cooling

omen is good, just that im a little concerned about the 12900h

it can get pretty toasty

[marsh sphinx]

Right

[stoic crest]

probably under control but it sure requires the fans to kick up pretty fast

13450hx as far as i know is more efficient and is about almost as fast

[marsh sphinx]

Right

So, G16, for better build, and better cooling?

[stoic crest]

mhm

legion pro 5i is the best option but it's also the most expensive lol

[marsh sphinx]

Or Zephyrus for 60 more

[stoic crest]

gpu is not our focus at all, so 3050ti is okay

yeah the zephyrus g14 is fine

[marsh sphinx]

In terms of CPU?

Or what else

[stoic crest]

cpu and build quality

zephyrus is also great, just that the models that are within your budget are a little old

[marsh sphinx]

I need good cooling too

[stoic crest]

but they're perfectly fine for what you do

[marsh sphinx]

Cool

[marsh sphinx]

Zephyrus over Strix?

[stoic crest]

it being ddr4 means you don't need to spend on ram so much

32gb ddr4 kits are like 40 bucks recently?

zephyrus is the thin and light lineup

[marsh sphinx]

I thought DDR5 was better than DDR4

[stoic crest]

strix is thicker

[marsh sphinx]

Oh, got you

[stoic crest]

yeah that's true

but you save money going ddr4 route, if you don't mind sacrificing some cpu performance

[marsh sphinx]

I'm sure the CPU is just fine for what I'm planning to do

[stoic crest]

yeah, it is

[marsh sphinx]

For every laptop on my spreadsheet to be honest

[stoic crest]

true lol

i personally prefer amd cpus anyway

they last pretty long on battery

[marsh sphinx]

Might cross off the LOQ for only having 512GB of storage

[stoic crest]

yeeeah

it's heavily cpu focused in its configuration

[marsh sphinx]

The Zephyrus is so ugly though 😹

"Alan Walker"

[stoic crest]

i feel ya

it does look wild

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-Zephyrus-Computer-Processor/dp/B09P4PSM6P/ref=sr_1_3

there's also this g14 with 40gb of ram

cpu slightly slower but it's virtually the same as 5900HS

[marsh sphinx]

40GB is crazy

Why would I need that much

[stoic crest]

it's not officially shipped by amazon, since it's a third party retailer

but the shop looks legit enough for me to consider throwing it into the mix

[marsh sphinx]

The laptop's white

Can't do that

Unfortunately

[stoic crest]

fair enough

[marsh sphinx]

Okay, removed the LOQ

For having 512GB of storage

😹

You know what, if the 5i is significantly better than any other options, I might just go for it

Unless I can get relatively similar CPU performance and build quality on the cheaper ASUS/HP options

[stoic crest]

nothing tops the legion pro 5i

[marsh sphinx]

Don't really care about memory since I can easily upgrade down the line

[stoic crest]

other than the weight

it's a little on hefty side

[marsh sphinx]

Strix as well right?

[stoic crest]

yeah, same case

zephyrus is the most portable choice

[marsh sphinx]

When I look at it, I can't see what could potentially go wrong if I bought the Strix

Or any of these laptops to be honest

They all seem great

[stoic crest]

you're fine with these options

[marsh sphinx]

And completely overkill for what I'm planning to do 😹

[stoic crest]

exactly lol

can go cheaper but by then you're looking at mostly plastic builds

or worse, msi laptops

[marsh sphinx]

I guess I got to spend that extra buck for better build quality, cooling, and most importantly durability

I ideally want to keep this machine for at least a couple of years

Like 5+

[stoic crest]

in my opinion zephyrus would be the middle ground

its gpu is kinda bleh but that's okay, gaming is just a bonus

[marsh sphinx]

Yup

Alan Walker SE just looks terrible

[stoic crest]

i agree lmao

[marsh sphinx]

Lemme look for another version

[stoic crest]

other versions available within your budget are not black

they're all white

[marsh sphinx]

Nah man... can't do that

[tawdry dragon]

still talking about this?

[marsh sphinx]

Can't do Alan Walker either

[stoic crest]

not like they're gonna yellow out since the body is almost fully alu

[marsh sphinx]

Yes

Having a tough time

[stoic crest]

but i can understand if it's not your thing

[marsh sphinx]

It defintely isn't

[tawdry dragon]

It's been a while since I last checked in, what are you having problems with?

[stoic crest]

then it all comes down to omen (probably loudest option), strix and legion pro 5i

[marsh sphinx]

Choosing between these three!

[tawdry dragon]

alright, I think it comes down to priorities and price

[marsh sphinx]

Priorities are: durability, and how loud the laptop gets

That’s about it

Also, if any other models come to mind, feel free to let me know @tawdry dragon

[tawdry dragon]

there are a few models with an amd gpu, but the cpu isn't the best on them

[marsh sphinx]

As long as FL and Pro Tools and such SW don’t crash because of the CPU being bad

I’m open to anything

[tawdry dragon]

the legion pro 5i seems like a really good option, but imo you should wait until black friday. Unless you need a laptop soon then you should wait. But it's all up to you

[marsh sphinx]

Black Friday’s in like 2 months?

[tawdry dragon]

yes, that's true

but still

[marsh sphinx]

Are deals actually worth it

I probably can wait

Ah… that means 2 months without music

Someone told me this about my list: “So, the only thing I'll say about your list, those machines are powerful, they're pretty, and they're VERY poorly made. Build quality of most of those is near the bottom of the industry. Why? Because SOMETHING has to suffer to make a gaming laptop not cost $3000. For most every OEM, that's build quality and quality of materials.

That said, any of them should suffice easily for what you want.”

[stoic crest]

lmao

they're crazy if that's real

Do they happen to shill for apple products too?

And frankly, nothing but framework laptops are the most durable laptops out there

But the framework is expensive, and comes in limited batches given that they're still new company

Ryzen 7 configuration is 1450 usd

For framework 13

Or rather, 1479 with audio port option selected

https://frame.work/products/laptop-diy-13-gen-amd/configuration/new?variant_id=403

starts at about almost 1000 if you go with barebones

add in storage, ram and install windows yourself

with ryzen 5

[marsh sphinx]

Nah that guy’s probably tripping

[stoic crest]

The problem is that the shipping date is also.. Q4 this year

That means you'll have to wait a few months until yours arrive lmao

If you do order one

[civic sun]

I'm not going to be able to get a recc for your requirements since im a bit of a apple shill when it comes to any photo/video/audio work but I just wanted to comment that if we mean durable durable then dell latitude rugged lineup is usually the go to xD but that is for construction like environments.. framework is a bit expensive but nice for the upgrade paths and repairability.

another note, just make sure you are bouncing tracks you aren't currently working on to reduce strain on cpu

[marsh sphinx]

I’ve never considered getting a Framework whatever that is

[stoic crest]

It's a new, modular laptop brand

Pretty nice, just expensive for what you get

Which is understandable, they're a small company. That and because all of their laptops are made out of magnesium alloy

[civic sun]

maybe @proud notch might have some input? since I know he uses FL

[marsh sphinx]

Yeah, please let me know Sytan

[proud notch]

Sorry, yes?

What's the question?

A laptop for FL studio it seems?

My recommendation is the highest single core performance you can get, which is likely to be an Intel option for you. RAM doesn't matter much, but fast storage can really help when loading projects, especially if you do sound design/high quality exporting or consolidating

@marsh sphinx sorry, I'm a little busy at the moment. If you could tell me exactly what you're hoping for, I'm sure I could give better advice

[marsh sphinx]

That’s right. FL, Pro Tools, and studying. Nothing too crazy

This is what I asked on SuggestALaptop

Are you open to refurbs/used?

No. Brand new only. Open-box seems okay, but only when in "excellent" condition.

How would you prioritize form factor (ultrabook, 2-in-1, etc.), build quality, performance, and battery life?

Performance, build quality (must be durable, and don't want it to feel super cheap, like bad quality plastic, but hopefully I won't be getting that for $1,200), battery life (portability?), form factor (what even is that?).

How important is weight and thinness to you?

Want to be able to bring my laptop to class. So nothing CRAZY thick.

Do you have a preferred screen size?

N/A.

Are you doing any CAD/video editing/photo editing/gaming? List which programs/games you desire to run.

I'll be producing music, using FL Studio, and potentially making songs and engineering, using Pro Tools and such softwares. Might do some very occasional gaming (sports games, GTA, Rust...); I don't think I need a super high-end GPU. Might get into very basic graphic editing, but that's for the future.

I want to use my laptop for classes and for music. And basic entertainment (streaming videos, and light gaming).

Any specific requirements such as good keyboard, reliable build quality, touch-screen, finger-print reader, optical drive or good input devices (keyboard/touchpad)?

I don't want my laptop to break after a month. Can't do super cheap plastic or bad build quality, but I doubt I'll be getting that considering my budget. A backlit keyboard would be nice. If the laptop has RGB, I want an option to turn it on and off.

Leave any finishing thoughts here that you may feel are necessary and beneficial to the discussion.

Just need my music softwares to run smoothly! That's about it. Don't want it to be too noisy. DURABILITY is super important, I'm looking to FUTURE-PROOF with this cop! Thanks.

Budget is around $1,200

[proud notch]

When it comes to specific recommendations for laptop models, I'm not going to be your guy, but when it comes to optimizing hardware selections for audio work, I'm sure I can help.

If you want really good build quality on a budget, the HP Spectre laptops are extremely well built

For CPU, if you're going to be using pro tools and FL studio, you're definitely wanting to prioritize single core performance over multi-core performance, which will likely mean an Intel CPU

If you care a lot about battery life, you would be able to sacrifice some single core / audio production performance in favor of switching over to AMD, which would likely greatly improve battery life

AMD also has the benefit of having very solid IGPUs, which would negate the requirement of having a DGPU at all, especially if you're just going to be doing some light gaming and stuff, AMD would be able to handle that with its IGPU

At $1,200, it is a little constrictive, but if you're not factoring in an IGPU, and you have no real specific display needs, I think a good option would be an HP Spectre laptop, specifically because they are built like tanks

[stoic crest]

eh

spectres aren't really gonna fit 1200 lol

[proud notch]

My mom and I got ours for $800 brand new, with 16 GB of RAM, and a 4700U back in October of 2020

[marsh sphinx]

How much would a Spectre be?

[stoic crest]

that's nice, but a spectre is not really that great for performance tbf

[proud notch]

It depends on which configuration you're looking for, but my mom and I got her laptop for 800 bucks, and up until recently, it greatly outperformed my desktop computer I used for music production

[stoic crest]

and unupgradeable

im sure it has soldered ram

[proud notch]

You would be sacrificing a bit on the performance, but if you want great build quality, and that seems to be something that they are really focused on, a Spectre is really solid

Although, do be warned, they are very heavy because of their solid metal construction

My mom's laptop is thin and portable, but very heavy

Let me see if I can pull up some options really fast

[marsh sphinx]

I don’t mind it being heavy

Just don’t want to be CRAZY THICK

[proud notch]

My apologies

I meant HP envy, not spectre

The envy line is the more affordable version of the Spectre line

For whatever reason I always think that the Spectre is the cheaper of the two, but it's the envy

[marsh sphinx]

Got you

I think I saw a couple of Envy’s online

[proud notch]

Looking straight on HP's website, they have a 16-in 120 hz 400nit 1440p IPS envy with a 13500U, 16 GB of DDR5 5500mhz, and a 512 GB internal and VME SSD for around $1,300

Sorry, 13500h

Like I said, I'm kind of multitasking right now, so I make it a little tripped up lol

I'm on my phone right now, so I'm sure I can get you some much better results in 15 or so minutes when I get on my computer

When it comes to build quality, I do honestly believe that an envy is going to be the best option for your budget range

My mom's NV still blows me away to this day, with its solid aluminum chassis, nearly zero keyboard flex, and overall built like a tank aesthetic lol

*Envy

The 13500H is a.m. pretty solid CPU for music production, it's about 85% the single core of a 12600K, and it still has very solid multi-core as well because it's a 12 core processor

It's not super ultra powerful, but the single core is solid for music production

[stoic crest]

rip storage tho

i wouldn't consider paying more for less upgradability and worse cooling ngl

or less storage on that matter

[high radish]

lol I would pick this one https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gaming-laptops-pcs-and-accessories/alienware-m16-gaming-laptop/spd/alienware-m16-r1-laptop/useahbtsm16r1rplgkcx?cjdata=MXxOfDB8WXww&cjevent=b7daecad58eb11ee822f00140a18b8f9&dgc=CJ&publisherid=1122587&publisher=&aff=Slickdeals+LLC&affid=1122587&aff_webid=4485850&aff_user_id=b64d53f658eb11eea7ade281b58694f90INT&gacd=9684992-28463632-5750457-345576786-177846717&dgc=af&VEN1=12839518-4485850-b64d53f658eb11eea7ade281b58694f90INT-Slickdeals LLC&dclid=CM2Sh7ePvYEDFebdEQgdGgYM8w

[stoic crest]

it's simply gonna be used for audio production

budget not over 1200

[high radish]

idk if settings will reset if I shorten that link

[stoic crest]

1349 just to have 4060, that's cringe

[high radish]

13700kh single core go brr

[stoic crest]

512gb storage with 16 gigs ram

[high radish]

actually 1250$ after code

[stoic crest]

still not worth it

[high radish]

yeah wait

[stoic crest]

bh photo has legion for just similar price

same cpu and gpu

but more ram and storage

[high radish]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295742115620?epid=21061890719&hash=item44db9a8f24:g:NdYAAOSwD3pkhASl

bad build quality but good specs

I got this one

[stoic crest]

i wouldn't say bad just cuz it's plastic, but it certainly ain't the best

[high radish]

but I bought it expensive

yeah it's not bad if you're gentle user like me

I think I bought it for like 960$ and its 890$ now

[proud notch]

The person is stressing good build quality above all else

[stoic crest]

i don't really trust envy lineup

[proud notch]

I'm suggesting it as somebody who has had one for a few years now

[stoic crest]

since hp well, does glue hinges onto the body instead of milling it

it's a likely point of failure

[proud notch]

I'm not sure why I was asked for my input on this then, if we have @high radish suggesting laptops that fit basically one of this person's criteria, and @stoic crest suggesting against my recommendation of an Envy, which checks all of the boxes @marsh sphinx set out

[stoic crest]

it was for audio production i believe

i didn't mean to disrespect you or anything, just stating from what i have observed

[proud notch]

Yes, my specialty. All you need for music production is a good CPU

And the person seems to care the most about build quality, of which the envy is a solid laptop for specs, and build quality. I'm speaking from experience as somebody who has done music production of an envy for a couple years now. Granted, it was mostly in passing, but still.

I'm not the most educated on exact laptop models, but the Envy fits everything the person is asking for. Portable, good for music production, decent battery life, dense/well built

Where as war pig is suggesting laptops with DGPU, big, bulky, and over budget for seeming no reason other than it's a gaming laptop which they don't want

[marsh sphinx]

I’ll take a look at this in a couple!

Thank you guys

[marsh sphinx]

Right, I just need a fast/performant computer for music production

I’ll be going to the studio so can’t bear with FL crashing, endless loading, stuff like that

Portability is definitely great

[cinder kiln]

Hey vie

Soz I was asleep earlier

[marsh sphinx]

My bad if I wasn’t clear, build quality is definitely a plus, but not my priority… durability is though, I guess they do come hand in hand

[cinder kiln]

Ye I haven't read the chat earlier but we did touch on needing a good cpu

[marsh sphinx]

Hey Felix, no worries

[cinder kiln]

But going with a gaming laptop can give you the bang for the buck for longevity

Think of it in this perspective

A thin n lite, say it has

Idk a 7735hs

A ryzen 7735hs

Good screen, good cpu, ample ram

$900