tech-deals-discussion

[fair moon]

Nzxt monitor sale, IPS 1440p 144hz $125 or $144 with stand

Maybe 165hz but at least 144

I've heard the Nzxt IPS panels aren't amazing but at that price I don't think that matters

[pulsar fable]

Well I'd keep the link up at least. That HP is back down to $220, so it might go back down in price if it comes back in stock

But that's just me

[fair moon]

I think it was a clearing out stock kinda thing

[pulsar fable]

Oh

Well in that case nvm

[fair moon]

Cause it was on NZXT's website and had a "50% off all monitors" banner

[pulsar fable]

Hold up

https://nzxt.com/product/canvas-32q

It was just the 27in out of stock. The 32in is still in stock

And their 240hz 1080p for $125 is still in stock
https://nzxt.com/product/canvas-25f

[fair moon]

The 32in says in stock but when you go to cart it isnt

[fair moon]

Decent deal if you're into esports I suppose

[pulsar fable]

Hmm, looks like a hiccup on their side then

[fair moon]

The 1080p one is actually in stock tho

[warm thicket]

@thin gust #general-chat or #building-and-recc-chat would be the proper place to ask.

#building-and-recc-chat may be better since it does not go as fast as #general-chat.

[pulsar fable]

Holy crap the Nzxt monitors are back!

Just snagged a canvas 27q for $125 (before tax and shipping, but those vary from person to person)

[azure pond]

nice

[pulsar fable]

The 32in curved is in stock as well

For $20 more

[azure pond]

sick

id post em

[pulsar fable]

I will, I was busy buying one XD

[azure pond]

lol

if i hadn't spent so much recently i'd get one as a gift for my brother

but he's getting my current main monitor, that'll be more than a good upgrade for him

[pulsar fable]

Oh my bro is getting my monitor as a spare discord/YouTube monitor

[azure pond]

his current only monitor is a 1050p 60hz tn panel

[pulsar fable]

Upgrading from a $50 FHD 144hz to a $105 QHD 144hz monitor. What a time to be alive

Well I paid more because tax

[warm thicket]

Damn, tempting

[pulsar fable]

Call me crazy, but this deal eluded me last night. I was not taking another chance

Hmm, so the 27q is an IPS and the 32q is a va

Something to note for those looking at either option

Both the 25f and 27f seem to be ips

Whatever the specs, I'm glad I found this and didn't immediately buy the HP x27q, not that that's a bad display

[azure pond]

they're similar, i believe x27q is a bit better though

[frail socket]

is nzxt having struggles because of the sale? Haven't been able to access the site the past couple days lol

[steel wren]

@daring depot that channel is for deals pal, here is for chat

[daring depot]

Ok

[pulsar fable]

Yes. But, and hear me out
$165(ish I forget the price it's now $250)
Vs
$145 (or $125 without a stand if you have your own)

[molten halo]

that nzxt monitor sale is crazy good atm 👀

[frail socket]

too bad I can't even load the site 😭

[pulsar fable]

Oops, did I accidentally overload the site with Newegg deal finders XD

[frail socket]

i would legit consider the NZXT monitors at this price but I can't even get in the main homepage lol

rip nzxt

screwed over by newegg tech deal enjoyers

[pulsar fable]

Hmm, I can get to it fine, but then again I'm on corporate wifi and not crapcast

Sorry ""Xfinity""

Maybe if I go home and get back on Comcast I won't be able to access it

[frail socket]

My internet's just fine. 950 mbps at the moment so it shouldn't be that

[pulsar fable]

Oh

Then I don't know why I can connect and you cant

[frail socket]

plus it's not even a personal internet connection, it's my school's wired

the site's never been blocked

and ive been able to access it before

[pulsar fable]

Oh

Yikes, I wish I could help ya

[frail socket]

interesting. Turned on my cellular data on my phone and could get in nzxt

[fiery zephyr]

Whats with all these deals popping up when im broke lmao

[frail socket]

I wonder if there's a conflict with the provider or something

idk

[daring depot]

Damn I wish I needed a new monitor

[pulsar fable]

My paycheck is coming today, so I'm hoping I don't go broke :I

[frail socket]

150$ for 27

[daring depot]

Jesus that's a good deal

[frail socket]

27" qhd

it's so good 😭

[fiery zephyr]

lol that checks not gonna last long

[pulsar fable]

$125 if you forgoe a monitor arm

[fiery zephyr]

I know 😭

[frail socket]

I don't have space for 3 monitors and can't use a normal monitor arm because this desk doesn't have any open clamping space, since the back is all flush

[azure pond]

Mhm, nzxt one is a bit better of a deal

[pulsar fable]

Hmm, can't post an image of the deal here

No matter

[azure pond]

Was just saying that the panel quality is a bit better on x27q

Color accuracy might be a bit better on the nzxt one, not sure

[pulsar fable]

Oh I'm not doubting that

That's why I said "not that the HP is a bad monitor"

At $165 it was still a killer deal

[daring depot]

Why did this have to happen now!? I want that monitor

[azure pond]

Oh i got mine for 147

$170 after tax

[pulsar fable]

Oh for $147 even better

Good on you!

[azure pond]

Actually it should be arriving soon

[frail socket]

I'm out of date to return my second monitor now, too bad

[azure pond]

Still, it'd be a toss up between it at 147 and the nzxt one at 125

Both very appealing

[fair moon]

I have to pay shipping smh

$140 total

Worth it still or wait for black Friday?

[azure pond]

Up to you

Imo I doubt we'll see better deals, but I'd be surprised if we don't see comparable ones

[fair moon]

Uhhhhhmmm

Might wait tbh

I'd be willing to spend over 140 for a curved panel honestly

(I don't want 32in though)

[azure pond]

Yeah 32 seems too big for gaming imo

24 and 27 are the sweet spot

[fair moon]

32 at 4k maybe but not 1440

[azure pond]

1440p iirc is better pixel density at 32in than 1080p at 27in

It's fine, just too big imo

Would be too much tunnel vision for me

[fair moon]

Yeah 1080p 24 is good

But good to remember you can always just move further away from a monitor

[jolly inlet]

Black Friday is a bad time to buy tech in general. They mark things up so they can look marked down and some companies go so far as to make stripped down models especially for sale that week.

[fair moon]

Yeah well I really want a curved panel and I won't be using it till December anyways

[azure pond]

Hey fal

Could you check build chat?

Another opinion would be helpful

[grand orbit]

Those canvas deals are freaking insane

[azure pond]

Yeah, they're good quality panels too right?

[grand orbit]

Decent iirc ye

[fair moon]

Have to factor in shipping + stand though

Still a good deal but it does add a bit to the cost

[grand orbit]

150$ 1440p 165hz screen oh no

[fair moon]

160

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[fair moon]

Like I said, still a good deal but the "125" is a bit baitey

[molten halo]

welp just bought one, sadly they are outa black back panel ones

time to replace my 24 inch secondary

[fair moon]

From what I could tell the front bezel is still black, just the rear is white

[light holly]

@pulsar fable btw.. stand for the 32" curved is $25 xD

[molten halo]

Yeah, if the bezel was white I would’ve not bought it at all, hopefully it doesn’t end up bothering me too much kinda picky when it comes to colors

[light holly]

Watch these monitors be crappy and have bad ghosting lol

[molten halo]

It’s my secondary display anyways

[light holly]

That's a lot to spend on a secondary display

[fair moon]

They're IPS so if anything bad colors not ghosting

[molten halo]

130 isn’t that bad

[light holly]

I mean. 27" HP at walmart for $30 on clearance.

[molten halo]

[light holly]

I'm just trolling anyways. I game on a G32QC with a G27Q as ssecondary / aforementioned HP / and I just bought that HP that was on sale in tech deals for a 4th monitor lol

[molten halo]

Consider resale though, ips 165hz 1440p ez 80-100

[fleet marlin]

I wonder how many like me currently run 1080p for games & 1440p secondary.

[light holly]

People who found good deals on 1440p but only have a card that does good with 1080p 😛

[molten halo]

Gotta future proof the monitor

[light holly]

I did for sure.

[fleet marlin]

The great thing is just switch monitors, if I want, when gpu is upgraded.

[molten halo]

Meanwhile the 4090s that are bottlenecking at anything other then 4k

[fleet marlin]

Partly cpu & game engine, but still funny. It's literally pointless under 4k in most games.

[jolly inlet]

Some games are bottlenecked at 4k even lmao

[molten vapor]

Me. With my 5950X/3090 pc. 🫠

Idk if it’s the size or resolution but it gives me headaches. And I can’t have two monitors on my desk without one turned vertical and my 1080p monitor can’t turn vertical.

[fleet marlin]

I hear that. 1st 5+ years of gaming was on a 19" crt so 4 yrs ago the change just to 24" 1080p was good. Besides my gpu, I like this 24" Asus well enough to not bother trying to game on the 1440p. Plus you understand how this setup is almost better than if they were swapped, even if vertical 27" makes me look up a bit far.

[pulsar fable]

Hmm, reading it again I can see why it looks that way

Sorry about the confusion

[fair moon]

no you're fine, im more annoyed by nzxt lol

[pulsar fable]

Aren't we all?

[fair moon]

[high radish]

@fleet marlin my notifications is on for deals channel anyway

Yeah it's finally there

2x 2tb price = 4tb price

Time to get rid of 2tbs and get 4tbs

[loud sandal]

@pulsar fable wym no stand

[daring depot]

I saw that evga sale, but it looks like their website is being bombarded as well

[jolly inlet]

Bot swarms

Even the scalpers are sold out

[daring depot]

aww man

eh ill look later, not rushing for another gpu

[jolly inlet]

Personally I'd wait to see what AMD has to offer. We'll have more details soon on that.

7900XT should be a fair bit cheaper and use less power

[daring depot]

oh yeah forgot about that

i mean...how hard is it to switch from nvidia to amd

[jolly inlet]

I'm also sure they'll be using 1440p data to compare to the 4090 and it'll be dead even due to engine limits lol

[jolly inlet]

We have a guide for that

!ddu

[ebon stratus]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[daring depot]

ah!

dunno why i said that, cool that makes it easier

[jolly inlet]

You use that to wipe the drivers, tell it to clean and shutdown. While it's off you swap to the new card. Then boot normally and install new drivers.

[pulsar fable]

Sorry I'm an hour late. When you see the monitor on the site, you see it's price. When you click on it, it's $20 less than it was previously, and when you add the monitor to the cart then and there, you'll see that $20 back in the form of a monitor stand

It's technically a seperate thing and can be removed to reduce the price by $20

[loud sandal]

oh

thats cool just bc say people have monitor arm and they dont need stand

[pulsar fable]

Yep

Or you can just buy a cheap vesa stand that can do more than that default stand can

[azure pond]

My x27q arrived, gonna get it set up later tonight

[oak sentinel]

For scientific not stealing related reasons, can I have ur address?

[azure pond]

262 lane drive Texas Maine

[oak sentinel]

Ill not be right there to not steal ur monitor

[azure pond]

Perfect

I'll not make cookies

[oak sentinel]

nice

dont not make the ones with raisins

those are icky

[azure pond]

Gross

Oatmeal raisin cookies are nasty

I'll make chocolate chip and peanut butter

[oak sentinel]

i hate peanut butter

reeeeee

[grand orbit]

Aye don't be dissing oatmeal cookies, they slap if made with choc

[grand orbit]

I concur icky

[azure pond]

Your opinion is wrong

[grand orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-club-penguin-club-penguin-dance-skill-issue-gif-24610458

[oak sentinel]

truuu

without chocky tho

crongy

[grand orbit]

Wif chocco obvs

[light holly]

already????

[azure pond]

yeah, prime next day

[light holly]

bleh. I never get next day shipping. It never gives me that option. I always have to wait 2 days for them to process my order and then another 2 days to get to me. IF I'm lucky.

and everything ALWAYS ships from a city 8 hours away

[jolly inlet]

You have some sad lives if you've never had a good oatmeal or peanut butter cookie

[fair moon]

I don't think oatmeal is the best cookie but they're still good

They get too much hate

[fleet marlin]

I'll take oatmeal raisin cookies made by grandma over a random chocolate chip. 🤷‍♂️ They freeze well too, and PB cookies good for some variety. People are too picky sometimes.

[jolly inlet]

Chocolate chip is hard to get right for some reason

It seems so simple but whenever most people try to make them they just go flat

[fleet marlin]

Flour* content alone can be a big deal. Sometimes I do the normal nestle bag recipe then add a bunch more flour. Come out like cakes, so good.

[light holly]

They are cooking at to high a heat.

[fair moon]

I like my cookies incredibly dense and chewy

If I want cake I'll make cake

[jolly inlet]

Chocolate chip is also the one cookie everyone likes made differently for some reason

[fair moon]

Thoughts on snickerdoodles?

[light holly]

idk anyolne that likes a flat choco chip cook

I love me some ginger snaps

[fair moon]

I love snickerdoodles but I can see how some people might not like em as much

[light holly]

snickerdoodles are the shiz though

[fleet marlin]

I do for variety, but can't be burnt (the thin choc chip)

[jolly inlet]

They're good at christmas, but I might be biased. Grandma made them every year. Same with snowballs.

[fair moon]

Snowballs?

[jolly inlet]

https://www.spendwithpennies.com/snowball-cookies/

[fair moon]

Huh

Never had those

Our Christmastime cookie has always been mint chocolate crinkles

[jolly inlet]

Crinkles are good too but I've only had them a few times

Wait this isn't general chat what are we doing

[grand orbit]

In my defense peanuts make me gag cannot even stand their smell

[jolly inlet]

That's fair then

But still sad

[grand orbit]

Tried them the first time in canada a few weeks ago... Tasted so bland

[jolly inlet]

They weren't made right then

No cookie should be bland

[light holly]

There are cookies that are meant to be bland though

[fleet marlin]

Yea, to punish. (Joke)

[light holly]

where at in Canada?

[grand orbit]

I was in Toronto but got them on way to niagra

It was like a bakery place and everything else from there was v nice

[light holly]

For those times you need the performance increase that only RGB can provide.

https://www.woot.com/offers/pure-daily-care-luma-led-skin-therapy-mask-4?ref=w_gw_zl_lc_11

[opal flume]

If it is on your face enough, will your skin cells start emitting led lights too?

[jolly inlet]

Bioluminescence engaged

[daring depot]

Side effects may include: radioactive skin, skin burn, constant feelings of nausea and miscoloring of reality, safety pins stuck in your face..

[marsh sphinx]

They look like Russian tea cakes

[sick spade]

Lmao, I almost wanna buy one.

[frank timber]

is this a good deel https://www.amazon.com/MSI-PRO-Z690-P-DDR4-Motherboard/dp/B09GLD6563/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3H4479TZDVXGJ&keywords=z690+msi+pro&qid=1665827734&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjI2IiwicXNhIjoiMS42MCIsInFzcCI6IjEuMjUifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=z690+msi+pr%2Caps%2C125&sr=8-1

[grand orbit]

Normalish pricing

[frank timber]

Ok

thanks

[high radish]

Lol my discord app crashing when I hit amazon links

[light holly]

git gud

[steel wren]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-19411985

[loud sandal]

I opened it fine

On phone let me try pc

[high radish]

I can't open amazon links on phone lol

Other links working but when I hit amazon links app crashing lol

[loud sandal]

Haha

[fleet marlin]

@frank timber

[heady jasper]

Doesn't this belong here if it's not a serious deal? #tech-deals message

[fleet marlin]

Coreect it belongs just in this discussion channel instead of the actual deal channel, preferably.

[grand orbit]

@frank timber that definitely looks like a scam screenshot also you're supposed to give the link and infi

?

100% a scam lol random retailer too

[ivory minnow]

@flat junco #tech-deals message
That deal doesn't exist anymore...the site is bugged.

[stoic crest]

It probably just expired

[flat junco]

Oh rip

[pulsar fable]

[fair moon]

@quasi abyss dunno about the mouse but that's a membrane keyboard

[azure pond]

Omg guys, $70 p41 https://www.newegg.com/solidigm-1tb-p41-plus/p/N82E16820329021?Item=N82E16820329021&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-329-021-_-10172022

4125 sequential, pretty sad for a gen 4 drive no?

[pulsar fable]

Wait a minute

Something doesn't seem right about that p41

Aren't they supposed to be made by sk hynix?

[warm thicket]

Yes

[pulsar fable]

Yeah, this p41 still goes for a premium
https://www.amazon.com/SK-hynix-Platinum-Internal-Compact/dp/B09QX6SL2Y

[warm thicket]

Not sure what the purpose of them having another brand is.

[jolly inlet]

It was a joke deal. I can see people being confused. No way bacca would make that mistake lol.

[fervent elk]

it’s a qlc drive

[brittle lagoon]

p41 plus different drive

it's basically also sk hynix

but subsidiary

qlc+hmb but actually decent

like think rocket q4

[fervent elk]

oh yeah QLC can make sense just not if it’s anywhere remotely near the price of a TLC drive

[stoic crest]

p41 non plus is the good one

[brittle lagoon]

P41 plus is good for a different segment

[stoic crest]

not when mp33 exists kek

[brittle lagoon]

P41 plus is substantially faster

Like twice the seq speeds kind of fast

[stoic crest]

oh

[azure pond]

Ye, just find it funny when brands copy other brands names

Lenovo g27q moment

[molten halo]

Nzxt hasn’t even shipped my monitor yet smh 6 days after purchase

[pulsar fable]

Just "label created"

[loud sandal]

Strange

[lean briar]

@quasi abyss why are you always putting the vigot keyboard

[quasi abyss]

i saw it on the bestsellers ,thats why i put it

[pulsar fable]

Might be worth checking again

I just checked my email and found this

[keen marsh]

Ngl i trust dell with monitors more than I trust NZXT

[grand orbit]

Nzxt is obvs getting a oem to do the monitors and slap their sticker on it like they do with their psus and mobos

[pulsar fable]

Oh no doubt about it

I could care less about Nzxt or their products, it's just that this monitor was cheap

[grand orbit]

Yep their z690s have been decent price recently too

[mortal blaze]

@quasi abyss read me, pls

MSI keyboards, headsets, mouse and similars dont like us 😦

i have rlly good option MSI: monitors, gpu, cases and board

i hope u r so good and MSI enjoyer more 😄

https://tenor.com/view/teteo-dembow-dominican-altagama-rochyrd-gif-24754285

[grand orbit]

Huh?

[mortal blaze]

the man is like every 2x3 sendin MSI mouse and keyboards combo via #tech-deals 😭

[grand orbit]

I see one keeb man

[slow sluice]

They delete their old keyboard posts and put up new ones every few days

@quasi abyss personally I'd just pay the $10 more for a C2

[molten halo]

[loud sandal]

Lol

Just call nzxt be like yooo where my monitor

[mortal blaze]

u bought NZXT from new egg¡?

[molten halo]

we post deals from across the world wide web in tech deals, purchased a monitor from nzxt directly for cheap was suppose to ship in 3-6 days

[cinder kiln]

Eggi weggi

[mortal blaze]

?

i dont asked that

XD

[molten halo]

"purchased a monitor from nzxt directly"

[fleet marlin]

Reading skills be lacking. It happens.

[loud sandal]

Lol

[stoic crest]

MSI keebs sucks anyway

It's why we keep downvoting them lmao

Model over brand, it's the rule

MSI makes good stuff, but they have bad stuff too

[flat junco]

I'm 1000% surprised Darkwood is free, that game is a masterpiece

[cinder kiln]

agree, amazing game

[high radish]

Looking for decent keyboard

[fervent elk]

if you want something barebones without RGB, macro keys, or anything fancy, the g.skill KM360 is an awesome keyboard

it’s very well built and has been awesome for the several months ive had it

[high radish]

I currently have evga z15 but I'm not quiet happy with it

Preferred rgb and clicky

[fervent elk]

mmmmmmmmm

[slow sluice]

Banned

[pulsar fable]

y-yeah, i mean who would be dumb enough to use rgb clicky keebs

_>

<_<

[high radish]

[light holly]

so.. get you some bronze speed switches lol

Z15 is actually quite a good board.

[high radish]

Z15 is good yeah only 2 things I don't like. Caps lock light is not visible and switches sometimes not feels like clicky

[light holly]

What switches do you have? You can't see your caps lock light?

[high radish]

Original switches

[light holly]

er.. The board comes in 2 variations lol

So.. Silver/Bronze

[high radish]

Yeah when I lay back , I can't see caps lock on light couse it's behind keys

Umm idk which one it is lol

[light holly]

I feel like that is gonna be on any board?? I also lay back all the time and can see the caps lock light?

[light holly]

Hm.. Pull off a key and see what color the stem is 😛

[high radish]

idk why I can't see it lol

I always checking if caps lock is on or not

[light holly]

That's way odd. The only time I have issues with caps is when I'm playing Apex because I keep hitting it by accident 😛

[grand orbit]

Sweet find @azure pond

[light holly]

Dang..

I need that monitor.

NEED

[fair moon]

Good deal

Im used to curved 24in though and I can't imagine a flat 32in panel

[azure pond]

Same

[fair moon]

flat 24 is perfectly reasonable, and 27 seems like it would be fine as well but no way 32 looks as good flat as it does curved

[azure pond]

Idk, further away I think it'd be fine

But I prefer sitting closeish

[high radish]

My order keeping cancelling

On that hp monitor

[small token]

shows me no bueno

[high radish]

F

Probably we're too late

[small token]

well i def am lol

[high radish]

I couldn't order either lol

[molten halo]

Nzxt has sent my monitor thank god

[loud sandal]

Lol

[hushed igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/B660I-AORUS-PRO-DDR4-Motherboard/dp/B083NLX6G3/ref=mp_s_a_1_28?crid=RB6EBRBZEDTD&keywords=itx&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&qid=1666245295&qu=eyJxc2MiOiI3LjQ3IiwicXNhIjoiNi40MyIsInFzcCI6IjYuMjIifQ%3D%3D&s=warehouse-deals&sprefix=itx%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-28

Not sure if it’s including cpu tbh

The price seems too good to be true

[stoic crest]

The bundle sucks anyway tbh

[hushed igloo]

I mean for a used combo kinda? It’s from Amazon warehouse so atleast you get simple returns if it doesn’t work.

[light holly]

I don't think it comes with the cpu?

I can't find anywhere on that page that says anything about it coming with a CPU. The only thing that alludes to there being a CPU is the pic and even then, it only says i5 on the box and not an actual model.

[hushed igloo]

^ figured the price didn’t make sense lol

[light holly]

Yeah it's weird that it's listed as a bundle.

[light holly]

@raw inlet idk if its even worth posting the used/open box since for $10 more you get brand new.

[raw inlet]

Yeah, not worth but if the new one goes oos you still have the open box one

[light holly]

Ah right.

[grand orbit]

You can also get 6650xt for cheaper lol

[jolly inlet]

Didn't we have a $235 6650XT recently too lol

[grand orbit]

I didn't see that one

Maybe it was 6600xt

[fair moon]

There was a 3 fan gigabyte model for $265 on Newegg for a while

So 270 pretty close

Oh the same one that's on sale right now actually

[high radish]

I need 4tb ssd moo

4x 4tb sn850x

[cinder kiln]

I bet by the time you get close to using even one of those you'll be buying 4x 4tb gen 5 drives

Lol

[pulsar fable]

Would your motherboard even have enough pcie lanes for all that?

[high radish]

Yes I will replace them with gen5 one when they're comes out

[high radish]

I think my z690 mobo only have one gen5 m2 slot

[brisk sphinx]

@jolly inlet Do you know how stable the epic FO3 is? Because Steam FO3 crashes every 10 minutes or so, and the Xbox game pass version is perfect

[jolly inlet]

No idea

But there are fixes for the steam crashes

[fair moon]

thoughts on rx 6500xt?

I think 1660ti is about equal but with 6gb vram

[pulsar fable]

Honestly I don't know what else I'd use with my pcie lanes, so I'm thinking of getting a motherboard that's essentially "oops, all nvme"

[high radish]

My mobo supporting 4x gen4 but I think only 1st slot supporting gen5

[grand orbit]

Pointless card

[fair moon]

Also seems like justgpu.com should probably have a newegg banner on it somewhere else than the link in the very bottom

[grand orbit]

And that 6600 is just normal price

[azure pond]

Pcie 4.0, similar to a 1660 iirc

[pulsar fable]

The question is, how much is the pursuit of more m.2 worth?

[azure pond]

I dont know the proper words to post this https://www.amazon.com/HGST-Ultrastar-HUSMR7676BDP3Y1-7-68TB-0TS1357/dp/B07FCZ8VMY/

So ima just leave it here for someone else to

[azure pond]

Theyre the same price as sata ssds in most cases

[pulsar fable]

Not the physical m.2s, I mean like the motherboards to support more m.2

Or other hardware and tradeoffs

[grand orbit]

iirc thats generous

[azure pond]

Nearly every semi modern mobo has an m.2 slot

Only one crappy asrock h610 doesn't I believe

Maybe one of their b660s too, not sure

[pulsar fable]

Ok I think something got lost in translation

I was commenting on the fact that War_Pig has a motherboard with 5 m.2 slots

So I was asking "what is the cost of more m.2"
As in, more than the 1-2 on most standard boards

Welp, a quick Amazon search shows that the cost for 6 is $240 USD, 2 missing ram slots, and a whole lot of shared bandwidth

Honestly not as much as I thought

[grand orbit]

except used tho

[pulsar fable]

300 not used*

[grand orbit]

yuck

also its x570?

who the hell buying that new

[pulsar fable]

I don't know

I was just curious

It seems only the msi unify x and the msi z690 godlike are the only motherboards to attempt 6 m.2s. most companies stop at a more senseible 4

[grand orbit]

pcie to m.2 expansions are cheap

[pulsar fable]

Pcie bifurcation isn't tho

[grand orbit]

why do you need to do that?

[pulsar fable]

Don't you need pcie bifurcation to use a card with more than 1 m.2 on it?

[pulsar fable]

Also I don't need it, I was just exercising a thought in the true cost of maximum m.2

[grand orbit]

i dont think so

you can get 2 in 1 pcie to m.2 for like 30$

[high radish]

My mobo is rog strix z690A ddr5

4x m2 slot . But only one is gen5 I think

[jolly inlet]

Most model motherboards support that tbh

[high radish]

Looking for decent z790 mobo and 4090 that looks good together

Come on Asus why no white strix

[fervent elk]

unless youre out of M.2 slots it really isn’t worth getting SATA ssds at their current prices since often the NVME drives are barely any more money

[fair moon]

Noooooooo

Though ARS has fallen around 25% since I subscribed so 389 is still only 2.50usd a month

[pulsar fable]

Yikes

[cinder kiln]

Just use your Z690

[high radish]

but it will not look good with any ugly 4090

[cinder kiln]

[azure pond]

I find this funny https://nzxt.com/product/exclusive-4090-h710i-pc

That gpu is going to be dying

Also 11700kf paired with a 4090

[high radish]

[stoic crest]

oh god

Why

[cinder kiln]

[cinder kiln]

I can only upvote that headset as I own one and love it to death

[flat junco]

Haha

I didn't need it but I'm really curious on trying it out

I had a 598 from a long time ago

Right now my main headphone is r70x

[high radish]

Hd598 is timeless headphones

[flat junco]

I ordered an AKG 702 last week, but the left side is cutting out so I'm returning those

[high radish]

Eww akg

[cinder kiln]

A lot of Senn's are proven timeless. They released the 560S' in like the 90's

[flat junco]

They were pretty good for gaming, I'm too lazy to fix them

[cinder kiln]

600's too

[high radish]

I currently using Beyerdynamics DT990 pro

[flat junco]

Nice, I have a dt770 from around the time I got the 598's

I was thinking about the 1990's from the b-stock deal or the 880s, but they're OOS

[high radish]

Yeah I had one for long but right driver died finally so bought new one from newegg for 104$ for sale

[flat junco]

Yeah, those things are built like tanks, I used to just drop it in my backpack lol

[high radish]

German quality

[flat junco]

I have the TYGR 300R's, but they have too much bass for gaming

[high radish]

I hate bass boosted headphones

That's why I mostly using studio headphones lol

[flat junco]

I have too many headphones collecting dust, I just need to sell them

[high radish]

Same

[light holly]

Mind if I DM you? xD

[quasi pasture]

Have any good wired closed-back headphones?

[flat junco]

https://tenor.com/view/pfsf1968-gif-18754243

[stoic crest]

lol

My good is probably average

I got earbuds that has slightly muddy sound signature

And they sound great for me

[lofty moss]

560s bang

that is all

[azure pond]

My headphones are great studio headphones, not really geared towards gaming tho

[quasi pasture]

I want a pair of Modhouse argon mk3's

[azure pond]

Not good for footsteps and other sounds in games like valorant

[quasi pasture]

I really need something closed-back lol

[stoic crest]

Same

[quasi pasture]

Don't say dt770

[flat junco]

dt770 250 ohm

[quasi pasture]

I'm using Monolith M1060s rn

[flat junco]

I have ATH-r70x, ATH-AD700x, TYGR 300r, DT770 250 ohm, HD598. And I think that's all for over ears

[quasi pasture]

im not into IEMs tbh.

I have T2 pro's and T2 plus's, they sound great, but ugh, literally every IEM i've owned just doesnt fit well

[flat junco]

I don't mind IEMs, they just get uncomfortable after like an hour

[quasi pasture]

i have weird ear holes

[flat junco]

Have you tried Etymotics? You have to shove them deep into your ear canal

Like, almost an inch

[quasi pasture]

Yea ive considered buying one but ehhh

[flat junco]

They sound great, you just have to keep them clean

And the Isolation is great, almost like ear plugs

[quasi pasture]

yea i'd imagine so

[stoic crest]

sheesh

earbuds that goes that deep?

[quasi pasture]

these are what i want rn https://www.modhouseaudio.com/argon-mk3/zimu3wz0oyxlavnprki2jovso6c31v

a little pricey though

[flat junco]

Also....about that 560s deal, not sure how 100% this comment was

[stoic crest]

hm

well it's not new, probably just repackaged refurb tbh

like how acer does with their refurb

[light holly]

I'm being skeptical xD is this truly a super good deal?

[quasi pasture]

the real question is:
would you rather get X2HRs for 100, or 560s for 100

[flat junco]

I've heard good things about them for a while now, I'll let you know when I get them lol

I think I'd go with the 560s

[light holly]

idk what X2HR is

[flat junco]

I think the x2hrs are V-curved

[quasi pasture]

they are

[flat junco]

560s are neutral

[quasi pasture]

Yea

I liked my x2hr's

[flat junco]

I don't mind the V-curve, but I get fatigued after a while with treble

[light holly]

ew treble

my ears are very sensitive.

sensory overload easily.

[quasi pasture]

im really sensitive to sibilant mids in particular

[loud sandal]

Get better ears

[quasi pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

[stoic crest]

Even if it's cad

That mini pc is overpriced

[pulsar fable]

@high radish hmm, seems they knocked off an extra .99

Off the headset

[high radish]

Lol

[frail socket]

Hyperx headsets are great tbh

I have cloud 2’s

[light holly]

@high radish Are those good for the normal $50 price point?

[azure pond]

I ordered them. If I don't like them my brother can use them, he's using his laptops speakers still

[pulsar fable]

Well it's score on rtings isn't abysmal, so that's a good sign
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/hyperx/cloud-stinger

[light holly]

yeah that's what I'm looking at.

for $19 it looks pretty alright

[pulsar fable]

Probably not 50 worth, but I'd pick up a pair for $19

[light holly]

yeah I picked up a pair

[loud sandal]

@high radish I can't open Amazon links

[pulsar fable]

Yeah I've been having that issue as well

[high radish]

Lol it happened to me before too

[pulsar fable]

Discord broke something on this latest update

[high radish]

It works now

At least for me

[loud sandal]

Can someone open that monitor deal

[pulsar fable]

The $110 one?

[loud sandal]

Yea

[pulsar fable]

Yeah, you can hold the link down, wait for the menu to pop up, and click "open link"

That's the workaround for now

Anyway, that picture shows it

[fair moon]

No

[loud sandal]

yea

[dry flume]

the cloud stinger offer isn't available anymore?

[azure pond]

It is

Might be region locked

[pallid geyser]

Gotta say, the Stingers were more comfy than my 38x’s IMO

[pulsar fable]

Might be region locked, because I can still get them for $19

[dry flume]

hmm might be

offer does not show up for me

[frank timber]

Bro I bought it for 50 😔

[pulsar fable]

Maybe you can return it and buy a second one at this lower price?

How long ago did you buy it?

[frank timber]

A while ago

[pulsar fable]

Oh, rip

[frank timber]

Ye

[pulsar fable]

Can't help you there

Do you at least like the headset regardless?

[frank timber]

I might get another one if my current one breaks

[pulsar fable]

Good idea

[frank timber]

It’s pretty good

But

I broke the mic

So I don’t think the mic is that durable

[pulsar fable]

Eh, I have a fifine dedicated mic

[frank timber]

Same

[pulsar fable]

So that's not much of a concern to me

[frank timber]

It’s amazing for the price rn

[flat junco]

@vague pine I blame you. Bought 3 pairs of skates and 2 grips lol.

Just went with the original skatez for now for the xm1r, vpu, and ec1-c

[fair moon]

Whole headset ain't that durable

Can get Razer kraken for ~40 USD, way better construction and maybe better drivers

[austere sage]

i bought it

[austere sage]

since its on sale for 109$ i bought it

[loud sandal]

lol

[austere sage]

i had to

[light holly]

For $19 I'm deciding to give it a shot. Its amazon.. if I don't like it.. can send it back, but rtings rating on it for $19 doesn't seem bad at all.

@vague pine I'm thinking of buying skates for the Orochi. Does the glass really wear down pads fast?

[vague pine]

glass on glass, ye. glass skates on a cloth pad, depends on the pad but it can and some the performance will just kinda hit a plateau. glass skates on a hybrid/glass infused pad, ye but again plateau. ptfe skates on a glass pad, not really but would probably have to be broken in more depending on the skates

[light holly]

I see. I think the only ones for the orochi are glass skates. I use a MTG card mat as my pad. Not a huge deal if I wear the mat down, was just curious at how long before then.

[vague pine]

should be fine for a while before hitting that performance plateau

[light holly]

With the plateau will it be less performance than the normal skates at that point?

[vague pine]

eh, its less friction so its still worth imo depending on the dpi and sens you play

just nice and smooth overall

[light holly]

Yea, atm I am at 6000dpi. Planning on bumping up another 500-1000. Probably today.

Also.. are grips worth it?

[vague pine]

wai hol up

6k dpi and plan on upping it?

wut

WHAT

like what

[light holly]

Lol

6k is starting to feel to slow

[vague pine]

you aint doing 360s you doing 1080s

[light holly]

Not at all

So the lethal skates v2 say they don't work in humid places.. is 50% humidity to much?

[vague pine]

probably

also to answer the grips, depends up to you

also on the kind of material your mouse is

[light holly]

I never have to lift my mouse so probably don't need.

[vague pine]

if its like super cheap plastic id say its a nicer feeling but grips overall is preference

[light holly]

Well its the orochi v2. Feels solid enough.

Maybe in the future if I wear down the plastic ill get grips.

[light holly]

Looks like I'll be going with the corepad grips/skates ptfe since I don't want to risk not being able to use my mouse because of the humidity.

Also, you said there was some sort of creator code?

[vague pine]

ye theres multiple people that have codes

i use code Boardzy

it only takes a few cents off but i mean discount is discount

[light holly]

Hm. Yeah won't let me apply discount with the deal you posted.

[vague pine]

oof, sadge

[light holly]

Ordered. Probably didn't really need em, but eh why not.

The orochi v2 apparently have pretty darn good stock feet.

[vague pine]

they do

[high radish]

That laptop is good deal

Slap extra 8gb ram on it and done

[fervent elk]

[open kite]

What’s a good price on a used EVGA 3070 in the US

[silent rampart]

3 dollar

[open kite]

The cheapest I can find after tax is like $430 why I was wondering

[open kite]

Never used it before I see a lot more on there for cheaper just already sold

[open kite]

eBay will be hard bc you get hit with $40 for taxes so it will always be more

[pallid geyser]

man i want that m27q

[cloud hornet]

Garmin Instinct E-Ink
Legit thought that was some printer ink. Was highly confused at $300 original price and $100 sale price.

[flat junco]

Lol, not sure why it's discounted so much. I'm pretty sure their whole instinct line uses e-ink

Probably because e-sports edition

[mortal blaze]

evga and gigabyte rtx 3050 249

[grand orbit]

That's an awful price

[pulsar fable]

6600 going for $220. I would not get a 3050 for $250

[fair moon]

I would not get a 3050.

Or wait is the desktop version more than 4 gb

Yeah it's 8

250 is still not a deal

[brave steppe]

thermaltake versa h18 black
asrock b450m hdr-v
16gb beast
amd athlon 3000g
some evga bronze psu 550watt

my 1st build was doodoo

[azure tartan]

that i7-13900k seems to be available at most microcenter locations

[frail socket]

I don’t have a microcenter anywhere near me 😭😭😭😭

Closest one is 260 miles

[high radish]

then antonline is better option with current gas prices lol

[azure pond]

@quasi pasture may I ask why the monitor isn't a good deal?

Just curious

Ik most people don't notice much if any of a diff between 144 and 240

Is that it, or is smthn wrong with the monitor itself?

[light holly]

Looks like a pretty solid monitor to me.

[pulsar fable]

Yeah

[quasi pasture]

I just think there are better deals to be had, I wouldnt personally buy that monitor so I wouldnt really recommend it to anyone else

[pulsar fable]

I mean Nzxt had that one 240hz deal for $125, but this doesn't seem that bad

[azure pond]

Fair enough

X27q at same price definitely a better deal

Speaking of, really liking the x27q

Nice upgrade from 1080p 165hz VA

[quasi pasture]

i want an m28U 🤓

[azure pond]

I want a 4k 19 inch monitor

[quasi pasture]

why

[azure pond]

16hz

[azure pond]

Sarcasm

[quasi pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/big-time-rush-big-time-movie-logan-btr-logan-henderson-logan-mitchell-gif-22724082

[flat junco]

Bacca's deal is like:

https://youtu.be/ussCHoQttyQ

[open kite]

$335 usd for 3070 the best price I can find

[pulsar fable]

That's not to shabby

[jolly inlet]

About the same price as a used 6700 XT so yeah not bad

[open kite]

Good it is still under warranty too took me about a week to find one that wasn’t $400

[grand orbit]

Literally the same price or cheaper as ips 1080p 144hz monitors

[lone onyx]

Check this out on @Newegg: Thermaltake Smart Series 600W SLI / CrossFire Ready Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply Haswell Ready PS-SPD-0600NPCWUS-W https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-smart-series-ps-spd-0600npcwus-w-600w/p/N82E16817153232?Item=9SIBGM3J9U5386&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIBGM3J9U5386-_-10272022

So I bough this and I get a confirmation text from Walmart saying it’s shipped, and when I click the link it says the cost was almost 20$ more than what I paid. Has anyone else had a experience like this, I suspect a Newegg sells is laundering money😂

[warm thicket]

Yeah, that is not a good power supply.

[cloud hornet]

First off, TT Smart 80+ White is one of the worst PSUs one can buy and you should replace it ASAP. It lacks basic internal protections and almost always fails catastrophically (fire/explosion or killing other components), plus many other issues relating to PSU performance. Secondly, price differences of +/- $15 is very normal between products no matter if base price is $30 or $800

[light holly]

Sorry to ping you over a few day old comment.. I just got mine and I can't seem to unlock the spatial audio option. Were you able to with yours?

I can only hear things that are in a frontal cone of my camera direction

[pallid geyser]

to be honest, I haven't really fooled around with the settings on them, so I don't think I'm of much help on this topic :/

You could probably ask in #peripherals-and-displays though

These were recommended to me by quite a few people but I believe @brittle lagoon was the one that made me bite the bullet on them

[brittle lagoon]

wot

pc38x?

I have a pc37x

Just leave it on stereo, don't mess around with windows sonic or anything

and positional audio should sound fine

[light holly]

No sorry, I got those $19 HyperX Stingers

[brittle lagoon]

as a side note, if you don't like how pc38x feels, there's nice aftermarket cups

[pallid geyser]

oh nice, I definitely need to look into those

[light holly]

I'm just not sure how to get them to do spatial audio, I posted in #peripherals-and-displays if you wanna see what I mean.

[pallid geyser]

that may only be in the Stinger 2 version

idk

https://www.vortez.net/news_story/enhanced_hyperx_cloud_stinger_2_with_spatial_audio_released.html

[light holly]

I might just return em. My soundbar seems to work better than these so far.

[brittle lagoon]

like dekoni pads
https://drop.com/buy/dekoni-pads-for-sennheiser-pc37x-pc38x

[pallid geyser]

those look much comfier and I will very likely be making the swap

lol

[brittle lagoon]

actually there's prob better pads

those look thin

[pallid geyser]

the cloth is ok, but if you wear them for an hour or so, it just starts messing with the back of my ears

& my earlobes

blah

[brittle lagoon]

ick I know dekoni made nicer pads for pc37x/pc38x but I can't find them

like I'm 90% sure they made elite sheepskin pads like these but for pc37x/pc38x
https://dekoniaudio.com/product/elite-sheepskin-ear-pads-for-sennheiser-hd600-headphones/

oh well

[light holly]

Got it figured out. I decided since I have a Steelseries Apex Pro coming that I'd just download that software now. I have spacial audio now

this headset isn't to bad.

[pallid geyser]

yeah, especially for $19, lol

[light holly]

yeah, I kinda wish the headset clamped a little more

[fair moon]

who approved this

looks like they had a spare backplate from a small card and wanted to reuse them lmao

[brittle lagoon]

And PCB

[flat junco]

Just got my 560s, these things are brand new, pic in #peripherals-and-displays

#peripherals-and-displays message

[grand orbit]

smaller pcb is a lot better for thermals on those fins tbf

also stevio you can get a 6650xt for like 270 280 so its not really a deal nor not a deal

[fair moon]

It was just the lowest i've seen a (new) 6600xt

[grand orbit]

nice tech deal

[grave delta]

Why is the right side up

[loud sandal]

@high radish now it's $629

[high radish]

[flat junco]

pǝxᴉɟ

[grand orbit]

How in the

[cinder kiln]

¿ǝɹoɟǝq uɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ uǝǝs ɹǝʌǝu ǝʌ,noʎ ¿ƃuoɹʍ s,ʇɐɥʍ

[grand orbit]

ǝɯ uo sɹǝǝq ʎƃɐlodɐ 'ǝʇɐɯ ʎɹɹos ɥɥɐ

[light holly]

@vague pine :)

[vague pine]

stonk

[flat junco]

Same, got mine today too

Just a heads up, don't pull off the existing rubber on the sides, if you have the viper ultimate

It's part of the mouse body, just clean with the alcohol pads and put the stickers on the rubber

[light holly]

Orochi V2

[flat junco]

Ahh okay, I was so close to removing the side rubber part, but I'm glad I looked it up first

There are parts where the pieces had wrinkles, but nothing that would bother me while using the mouse

[light holly]

That looks noice

I don't think mine came with the side button grips though

Hm. It looks like mine didn't even come with side grips

[flat junco]

Oh, I didn't know I even had them until I took them out of the baggie lol

[light holly]

Yeah same. I just checked the bag. It was so thin, I didn't think they were in there lol

[flat junco]

Did you get a shiny metallic red bag too?

[loud sandal]

Is it weird I can read this

[vague pine]

i should probably get me some corepad skates and grips as well. have yet to try out their skates or grips

[cinder kiln]

You might be Australian

[flat junco]

I thought they had the wolfgang seal of approval ™️

[vague pine]

i know theyre good, theyve been around for a while. just i mainly use tiger ice skates

[flat junco]

It's weird, they're slicker than stock, but I can feel more of the mousepad

if that makes sense

I heard they're more control vs speed

[vague pine]

well depends on which you get since they have just their normal skates, air skates more so meant for speed and then their actual control skates

[flat junco]

Yeah, I just got the normal ones

I figured they're a good starter lol

[vague pine]

yeet, bought

[flat junco]

Do you like the Haste?

[vague pine]

dont know

[flat junco]

lol

[vague pine]

its coming in on monday

[flat junco]

I think I'm done buying mice in the meantime

I have three decent mice and I don't need anymore

[vague pine]

still got a lot of mice to buy

[flat junco]

I think if I get a new mouse, it'll probably be the viper 8k

[vague pine]

xm1r at some point, lamzu atlantis, and hopefully a new razer viper mini wireless comes out in december

and rn waiting on the pulsefire haste to arrive on monday

[flat junco]

Yeah, I think it'll either be the Haste or viper 8k, or both

[vague pine]

haste ive always been wanting to try and then they released the wireless version and when i was about to buy that, i think thats when the viper ultimate dropped to like $80 and after a while then i switched to the orochi, then the cycle continued with more mice

until finally like a year later, finally buying the pulsefire haste

[cinder kiln]

Kinda glad I didn't wait for that new viper mini

I was gunning for it but defaulted to DA V3 pro and kinda don't wanna change now

[vague pine]

still a good choice

[flat junco]

I heard good things about it

Also, haste is on sale at best buy for $45

[vague pine]

wired or wireless?

wired its like $45 an amazon as well. wireless is $65. if its the wireless thats for $45 at bestbuy then i might have to cancel my amazon order and drive to best buy

[flat junco]

It's the wired one lol

[vague pine]

meh

its gone down to $30 multiple times

[flat junco]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/yfqjp5/seems_like_hyperx_pulsefire_haste_2_wireless_is/

[vague pine]

q2 of next year

too long

need mice now

[flat junco]

Gives you time for your wallet to recover*

*maybe

[vague pine]

my wallet is never recovering

i bought a $400 monitor and then spent $200 on food and pokemon cards and now a puselfire haste wireless

my check hasnt even hit yet

[flat junco]

I like how you lumped up pokemon cards and food lol

[vague pine]

once that hits, i might buy a new gpu

[flat junco]

$30 food + $170 pokeman

[vague pine]

theyre interchangeable

i can go without food if i have pokemon packs to open

if i dont have packs to open, im stuffing my face with food

[flat junco]

Boredom is the worst

I'm trying to drink water so I'm not eating snacks

[vague pine]

boredom really is the worst, im always constantly trying to stop myself from pressing the buy button on amazon so i dont end up with 12 more mice and mousepads on my doorstep

feel as though im buying more mice and mousepads than i am using them

[flat junco]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/yf7wpc/pov_making_a_tier_list_40_almost_all_on_the_photo/

This you?

Didn't think it was gonna be a sticker lol

[light holly]

I did i did. I was like whoaa

[light holly]

Yo sammmmeee

Pokemon cards be just as important as food.

[vague pine]

getting there

7 mice. 8 really since i have 2 viper mini's

[vague pine]

almost to 1k

yeet

[daring depot]

Im trying to get into mice, so far Ive got 6

still trying to figure out a mouse that isnt logitech but logitech style

[light holly]

@flat junco Idk about yours, but mine feel niiice and slidey compared to the stock Orochi V2 skates. I did have to break out my 91% ISO to get the stock adhesive off though as the wipes they provided sucked.

Thank you @vague pine

[light holly]

After putting most the grips on, I've realized that the dimensions for the grips are a tag bigger than they should be. Also the palm grip part.. I'm not sure where it should go because wherever I try to place it, it wants to overlap the side grips.. which would mean I couldn't open my mouse to swap the battery..

I mean after looking at ʞɐǝɹℲssǝlɯɹɐH pic of his mouse and trying to put mine there is where it wants to overlap as well as anywhere else on that part.

@civic sun

every channel

[cinder kiln]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/652683/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-raphael-am5-45ghz-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
https://www.microcenter.com/product/652682/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-raphael-am5-47ghz-12-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included
https://www.microcenter.com/product/652681/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-raphael-am5-45ghz-16-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included

Tried looking for the associated free DDR5 kit and can't find it

sadge

otherwise these would be somewhat worth it

[daring depot]

Yall know any alternatives to the Razer Basilisk that are lightweight? Deathadder is too wide for my hand and 140 is a bit too expensive

[steel wren]

g502 from logitech

same as basilisk

but ligther.. a lot

[daring depot]

...tempting

I think i'm looking for less than 80g tho

[azure pond]

i think I'm ready to buy now

ima wait till I see a great mobo price on warehouse, when I do I'll buy it, and cpu next week

z690 would be nice but I'd settle for a b660 with wifi and good vrms

not much good rn, best is a z690 pro rs for $130

the multi core diff between 13600k and 12600k is insane, I know 13600k has more e cores but even so

11k more points on whatever passmark goes by

[steel wren]

yeah ill go for a 660 as well

but ill wait for the 4080 and the 7900xt

if not, then ill ditch the plans and ill settle for a 3080 and some high end z790

so first week of december will be my deadline

yeah 13600k as well

[azure pond]

yeah I'm def going for 13600k

[steel wren]

however we need a b660 with some bios flashback

its a gamble to get one without, maybe the bios is updated.... maybe is one collecting dust on the shelf

[azure pond]

can't we just install to a usb before putting the new mobo in?

[steel wren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[azure pond]

pretty sure that's how that works

we just install new bios to a usb first, boot to bios, and update from there

could ask pato or someone else smrt

[steel wren]

indeed, because that's assuming you can enter bios without the cpu

becasue... you know... 13th gen on a 660

[azure pond]

yeah idk

i could be wrong

[steel wren]

unless the 13th gen count as a basic 12th

hmmmm

[azure pond]

ravell add me

[steel wren]

gotcha 👍

[azure pond]

ty

[jolly inlet]

Get a used 1700 pentium for like $20 worst case

[vague pine]

in the sense of ergo, could try looking at xtrfy like their m1 or m4, roccat has some ergo mice but i think theyre a bit over 80g still, pulsar's xlite as well is ergo and light but none of them are the same or very similar in shape as the basilisk but they're ergo mice

[small token]

i am using a 12700K on a Z690 and will update the bios before i go to a 13th gen if i even do

[light holly]

@high radish dang. Thats cheaper than my 12600k that I got at the beginning of the year.

[high radish]

I bought 12600k for 230$ I think

[jolly inlet]

Crazy Intel putting things on sale so soon after launch. What are they worried about I wonder...

[high radish]

[light holly]

Idk, but amd already released their stuff right?

[jolly inlet]

Most of it

[light holly]

Are they expecting them to release something else?

Oh

[jolly inlet]

Zen4 3D is due around Feb

But that's too far away to be the cause here

[high radish]

Tbh I don't think it will be game changer

With current thermal solution

[light holly]

Ah. Try to offload as much as they can before 3d comes out takes market because its better?

[jolly inlet]

Maybe they're pushing their advantage. Make it as cheap as they can so everyone that's going to upgrade will have done so by the time 3D chips come?

[high radish]

I mean currently intel is mostly better value overall

[jolly inlet]

3D stacked cache means thinner IHS, I don't see them being any hotter

[high radish]

Yeah but cache is on die so it makes little bit difficult to cold actual die

[light holly]

Hm

[jolly inlet]

Der8auer already showed up to a 20 degree drop in temp from de-lidding, the thick IHS is a huge limiter

[high radish]

I just don't get why amd gone to that small surface area design

That makes them to do thick ihs

Couse there's smd components on top of cpu

[jolly inlet]

The 7000 chips may run hot but they're not throttling, unless you intentionally put a crap cooler on

The thick IHS was in part for Z axis compatibility with AM4 coolers

The other part (unconfirmed) was they knew they needed more room for 3D cache so they had better yields than 5800X3D

[high radish]

I think main reason to thick ihs is smd components under ihs

Intel places that smd components under cpu

That makes intel cpus little bigger but its good for cooling

[jolly inlet]

They also pull ridiculous amounts of power for the same work

So it's a tradeoff

[high radish]

Yeah saw 350w usage on my 13900k lol

But my 7950x couldn't pass 5.3ghz overall

Barely saw 5.4ghz

Even with 360mm aio it can't reach claimed turbo speeds

But I easily can OC my 13900k to 6ghz 2 cores

5.8ghz 4cores and 5.7ghz all cores somewhy 5.8ghz all cores blue screening frequently

[jolly inlet]

Lap it, there's guide tools available now (or soon if not). Shave that IHS down.

[light holly]

I wonder if SA can be pushed to 1.45 on 13th gen.

[jolly inlet]

It's the same process node so probably?

[high radish]

I got rid of 7950x already lol

it's just joke

[jolly inlet]

Oh well. Guess I have one less guinea pig.

Gotta make someone lap one. For science.

[high radish]

I bought it couse I expected a lot from amd but eh it had same single core performance as my 12900k

Yeah it had better multicore performance ofc but I saw 13900k have much better single core performance and similar multicore so bought 13900k

in most cases single core performance is more important

[light holly]

It is?

[high radish]

Yes

[light holly]

How come?

I thought multi core was better. Hence why they've made cpus with more cores?

[high radish]

in most games and in most applications speed depends on your single core performance

Yeah you need more cores with good single core performance

[light holly]

I thought games were utilizing multicore

I know older games are single core

[jolly inlet]

Gaming is not the target for more cores, it's the HEDT people that want to run blender while they game.

[light holly]

Blender.. not entirely sure what that is.. but why run it while gaming?

[high radish]

Most games using 4 or 6 cores max

[jolly inlet]

4 cores is still the highest share of gaming CPUs right now, so most games target that

[high radish]

That's why there's no much difference between 13600k and 12900k at gaming

[light holly]

Oh ok.

[high radish]

13600k have good single core performance. It is probably new gaming king

[jolly inlet]

Quite possibly yes

[light holly]

I know of this good deal on a 13600k that someone posted in a server. Christmas is coming up.. I'll DM you my address.

[azure pond]

Wouldn't surprise me if a 14100 would match a 12900k in gaming

[jolly inlet]

And relatively reasonable power draw compared to it's high end brothers

[high radish]

Lol

[jolly inlet]

That would be a huge jump tbf

[light holly]

Is.it a huge jump from 12th to 13th 600k?

[azure pond]

Not much in single core

[light holly]

Tell me no so I don't buy that 13600k

[azure pond]

Around 8% better I think

[jolly inlet]

Like... 10%?

Depends on the game

[azure pond]

Multi core its a big jump, since 4 more e cores

[high radish]

Yeah if you're gaming and doing light works 13600k ideal cpu

[azure pond]

Did 13th gen e cores get a boost?

[jolly inlet]

Totally not worth upgrading if you already have 12600k

[azure pond]

Or are they adl e cores

[light holly]

Thats what I needed.

[jolly inlet]

They're the same but moar cache and higher clock

[high radish]

12600k to 13600k is like 10% uplift on gaming and like 20% uplift at workload

[light holly]

I'll wait for next gen then.

And see where intel vs red ugly stand at that point.

[high radish]

Which makes 13600k desirable for working people as well

[jolly inlet]

14th gen Intel is supposed to use chiplets tiles

[light holly]

Tiles?

How do we know this already?

[jolly inlet]

They announced it https://www.extremetech.com/computing/335413-intel-shows-off-tile-based-meteor-lake-ponte-vecchio-cpus-at-vision-event

And they're totally not the same as AMD chiplets. They swear.

[light holly]

Nice. Does that explain what the "tiles" are?

Cuz idk wth you mean by chiplets or tiles

[jolly inlet]

Different functions of the CPU are divided up into different chips, with things like I/O being on one die and the cores being on another

[light holly]

All I know is I put metal square thing in mobo and it goes brrrr

[jolly inlet]

It makes the CPU scalable and resource efficient

[light holly]

Oh ok

[jolly inlet]

So if they need to add more cores to a CPU, just add another chip

[high radish]

Weird

[jolly inlet]

No need to redesign the whole thing

[jolly inlet]

Which part? The one where Intel is starting to measure in Angstroms?

[high radish]

Sad thing is you will need new mobo for 14th gen lol

[jolly inlet]

Yes that was also confirmed by multiple sources

[high radish]

Intel always changing mobo after 2gen so not surprised

[jolly inlet]

Occasionally 1 or 3 but usually 2 yes

[light holly]

That won't be an issue. I will find a white mobo at that time.

[high radish]

I think it was always 2 lol

6th to 7th , 8th to 9th , 10th to 11th

[light holly]

Hm.. I believe you could do 6th/7th/8th? I'm tryna remember, but I'm pretty sure someone said i could do an 8th gen cpu on my 7th gen mobo.

[high radish]

they were same socket but different architecture

I think you could able to run it with some bios trick

[light holly]

Maybe thy said with a mod or something

[high radish]

Yeah I think you could able to run them but you need modded bios

[jolly inlet]

You had to pin mod too, they were the same socket but Intel decided you couldn't use the same board for more than 2 years

[light holly]

Dang

Wait so did the 12600k come out this time last year?

[jolly inlet]

I think it was november last year