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bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:46 PM

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That's a sub-set of 20

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:46 PM

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No it wasn't

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Yes it was...

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:46 PM

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They are distinct hardware wise

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:46 PM

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The 16 series cards used 20 series GPU cores without RTX on the die.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:47 PM

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And a good deal of other low level changes

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Doesn't matter here though

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If you have a muxless laptop, then you will need to use some sort of GPU passthrough approach

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:50 PM

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I think I may have found something.

night charm Jul 10, 2021, 10:52 PM

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lol i have nvidia and intel with no issues on arch, then again it is a desktop not a laptop

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:52 PM

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I wish you luck, but unless it's an exact step by step walk through for that laptop I doubt it will get very far

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Yeah, because you aren't using Optimus Switching Graphics @night charm

night charm Jul 10, 2021, 10:52 PM

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what i was hinting at with this part of the message

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:52 PM

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There are a few other issues in laptops besides that, but yeah

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Like I said, the easiest way will probably be to install pop

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If you want to get fancy you might be able to grab the configurations on pop and graft them into arch, but that would more than a bit of a hassle

night charm Jul 10, 2021, 10:56 PM

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somewhat on topic, i was never able to get kvm/qemu working

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Just to check @bright shell, are you using nvidia or nouveau?

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:57 PM

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nvidia

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Because I like my full GPU support

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Nouveau is not a great solution.

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Which is sad.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Is nouveau blacklisted in your module conf?

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Do I need nouveau?

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 10:58 PM

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No

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You want to avoid it at all costs

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That's why you blacklist it

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bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 11:01 PM

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I don't even have any files in that /etc/modprobe.d directory

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 11:02 PM

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You won't by default on arch

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How much have you used linux before this?

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 11:03 PM

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I've dabbled with Fedora and Ubuntu

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But, Arch is where I'm really trying to get my hands dirty and learn Linux.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 11:04 PM

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You know that for someone that knows linux the only major difference between distros is the package manager, right?

night charm Jul 10, 2021, 11:04 PM

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sorry for interrupting

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Ehhhhhh, I have friends who would argue that is not the case at all.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Generally it is

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There are some perks like pop playing nicely with nvidia but that's pretty much it

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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I've got basically almost everything except the Hybrid GPU switching set up.

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That's the only thing I have left before I'd call this setup done.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 11:05 PM

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That's like saying you're 1% of the way done

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 11:06 PM

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I've got Wi-Fi, Audio, xfce, Steam, Discord, basically everything except Hybrid GPU, and then after that it's just making everything look pretty.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Those are all trivial though

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Hybrid laptops graphics are anything but

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Will you be playing any games on this laptop?

bright shell Jul 10, 2021, 11:07 PM

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Maybe a little.

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Probably Emulation more than anything else.

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But, I might load up the occasional 3D game.

frank steeple Jul 10, 2021, 11:08 PM

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If it's only going to be light or old games that would run fine on integrated, just disable the GPU and save time and battery life

tulip forum Jul 11, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Will it be harder to setup Arch Linux for real compared to a VM

frank steeple Jul 11, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Not really

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I don't really get the whole push to use arch though. It's not really that different

night charm Jul 11, 2021, 3:51 AM

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tulip forum Will it be harder to setup Arch Linux for real compared to a VM

largest issue you will run into is getting it to work with whatever wireless card you have

tulip forum Jul 11, 2021, 3:51 AM

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night charm largest issue you will run into is getting it to work with whatever wireless car...

i dont have one

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im planning on switching to Arch but for now ima get good at setting up VMs

night charm Jul 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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frank steeple I don't really get the whole push to use arch though. It's not really that diffe...

it looks the best in neofetch kekw

night charm Jul 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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tulip forum im planning on switching to Arch but for now ima get good at setting up VMs

have fun

tulip forum Jul 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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im having a time with my 3 failed attemps

night charm Jul 11, 2021, 3:53 AM

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3 failed attempts in a vm?

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how far do you get?

tulip forum Jul 11, 2021, 4:00 AM

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usually to around the point where i start to use VIM

frank steeple Jul 11, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Then don't use vim

night charm Jul 11, 2021, 5:27 AM

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when do you have to use vim in the arch install lol

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i think there is some system wide variable you can set so nano is the default editor instead of vim? thats useful when you want to edit the sudoers file without vim

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but ngl i couldnt figure that out so i just edited the sudoers file without the visudo command lmao

bright shell Jul 11, 2021, 1:51 PM

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VIM is pretty easy to work with.

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Just press I to type stuff in, and then press esc, and the type :wq to write and quit (save and quit)

frank steeple Jul 11, 2021, 3:38 PM

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visudo is how you're supposed to with it anyway

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bright shell Jul 11, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Honestly, that isnt the current Arch experience. Does setup take a bit of time? Yes. However once you do the arch wiki setup guide, its almost plug and play after that. I just have a crappy dual GPU setup on my laptop because it's an older HP model.

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Wi-Fi just needed a Gui application, and it worked out of the box

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Audio? 2 pacman packages later and audio works.

frank steeple Jul 11, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Notice how the comic is about setting up a system

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Pretty much any dual GPU setup where one is nvidia is a pain on arch, not just yours

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In fact, they're a pain on most every linux distro

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Arch is just a pain to setup for no real reason

wanton snow Jul 11, 2021, 7:40 PM

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night charm it looks the best in neofetch <:kekw:741678350791081994>

macos looks the nicest imo

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it's all rainbow

sleek halo Jul 11, 2021, 10:00 PM

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rainbow is EPIC

mortal totem Jul 11, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Rainbow

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I just want rain

night charm Jul 12, 2021, 12:05 AM

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wanton snow it's all rainbow

neofetch | lolcat

fallow belfry Jul 13, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Did Lili get booted again??

frank steeple Jul 13, 2021, 1:58 AM

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F

sleek halo Jul 13, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Bruhh why

undone lichen Jul 13, 2021, 2:46 AM

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how

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how does one get banned twice

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just follow the rules smhmh

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hell, even i can do it, and thats saying something

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https://tenor.com/view/yes-moment-moment-monke-moment-monkey-monki-gif-18818008

Tenor

tight eagle Jul 13, 2021, 4:16 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/asdadasdasd-gif-18092639

Tenor

brave isle Jul 14, 2021, 4:22 AM

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What’s good

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👨

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I use arch Linux btw

frank steeple Jul 14, 2021, 4:31 AM

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That's a cool boot screen. How'd you set it up?

river island Jul 14, 2021, 11:27 PM

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does anyone kknow of a way to control fans on my asus tuf dash. I cant seem to find out how to. im on pop os

bright shell Jul 15, 2021, 1:21 AM

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Probably a resounding "Not possible"

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But, you might find more out on a dedicated PopOS discord.

frank steeple Jul 15, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Oh, it's definitely possible. They're controlled somehow. The question is how hard is it and is it worth it

night charm Jul 16, 2021, 10:18 PM

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https://twitter.com/gnome/status/1415992946659364869?s=21

GNOME (@gnome)

@kdecommunity @valvesoftware That's fantastic news, congrats @kdecommunity!

Likes

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STEAM DECK RUNS ARCH LINUX.......... I NEED IT NOW

fallow belfry Jul 16, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Yep Steam OS isn't Debian based any more, 3.0 is now Arch

night charm Jul 16, 2021, 10:21 PM

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hopefully this means more support coming for linux gaming

fallow belfry Jul 16, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Well they said their custom Linux is supposed to be even better for gaming

night charm Jul 16, 2021, 10:23 PM

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steam confused me with their partnerships... they partnered with hp and microsoft to make the reverb g2 which sources parts from valve's own headset... and then they use linux for their own operating system?

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idk i would have thought partnering with microsoft to make a custom version of windows for the steam deck would mean better support for games... or maybe they asked microsoft and they said no because it would hurt xbox sales?

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i mean im not complaining tho... it all seems pretty pro consumer

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or maybe thats what they want me to think da_heck

fallow belfry Jul 16, 2021, 10:26 PM

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Another positive note is it's not locked to Steam only, they support other launchers and programs, specifically mentioning Epic.

bright shell Jul 16, 2021, 10:48 PM

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I mean, you can install Windows on the Steam Deck

fallow belfry Jul 16, 2021, 10:49 PM

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I'm sure drivers are a B----

bright shell Jul 16, 2021, 10:52 PM

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I doubt it.

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It's Zen 3 and RDNA2

fallow belfry Jul 16, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Chipset drivers would still be a problem. I guess they could just make some.

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And I saw Zen 2

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So more like the 4000 series but with RDNA

bright shell Jul 16, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Oh, I thought it was Zen 3

frank steeple Jul 16, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Zen 2, yup

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Drivers would be wacky

frank steeple Jul 16, 2021, 11:40 PM

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night charm idk i would have thought partnering with microsoft to make a custom version of w...

Probably a combination of that, simplicity, and cost

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 12:41 AM

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I'm sure AMD will make drivers for it.

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 12:43 AM

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That's not AMD's job, and those aren't the drivers that are likely to be the issue

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 12:49 AM

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That's like entirely AMD's job...

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And, Controller drivers are Steam's job, which they will likely just use Steam Input.

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Which is Platform Agnostic.

fallow belfry Jul 17, 2021, 12:53 AM

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bright shell That's like entirely AMD's job...

That part gets complicated, since it's custom hardware they'll make only the drivers that Steam asks them to make. It's also unclear if the drivers will even be available from AMD or if we have to get them from Steam.

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 12:53 AM

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I doubt Valve is going to be stupid enough to not tell them to have Windows drivers ready.

fallow belfry Jul 17, 2021, 12:56 AM

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It wouldn't be the stupidest thing Valve has done if they "forget" about that

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2 words: Steam Box

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 1:27 AM

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There's a whole lot more hardware in there too

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 1:27 AM

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fallow belfry Another positive note is it's not locked to Steam only, they support other launc...

👀 i didnt know this, side note does egs run on linux?

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Basically everything in a computer besides the ram and certain parts of the north bridge and south bridge need drivers

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 1:29 AM

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my power supply doesnt need a driver Dumb

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my case does tho

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Mobile power supplies often do need drivers though

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I'll put it this way, if they need a custom driver for anything, and it's very likely they will, there's no real reason for them to put the effort and money into developing the drivers for an unsupported operating system

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We're talking $100k+ for some feature that basically nobody is going to use, and would quite frankly be really clunky or finicky

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Driver dev pays very well

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 3:28 AM

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Whats a nice linux distro, mostly using this for vms, gonna try to get a win and macos vm running.

fallow belfry Jul 17, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Arch 🙃

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 3:41 AM

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Arch 🙃

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(it is pretty complicated for just running vms... but its lightweight!!)

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(plus you can rice it)

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 4:15 AM

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da_heck

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maybe something i can figure out how to install within 3hrs or so

fallow belfry Jul 17, 2021, 4:16 AM

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Ubuntu

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Debian

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 4:16 AM

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If it's primarily for hosting VMs could look into one of ther server oriented distros

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Ubuntu, Debian, RHEL, Fedora

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Maybe CentOS, but RIP CentOS

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 4:17 AM

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if you had to pick one which would you use, a interface would be nice tho, it is for vms but will ocasionally do some things within linux

fallow belfry Jul 17, 2021, 4:17 AM

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It's nice that Red Hat is free now (to a point)

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Very nice

fallow belfry Jul 17, 2021, 4:18 AM

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mortal totem if you had to pick one which would you use, a interface would be nice tho, it is...

Debian is my choice there. Has a desktop UI and all the Linux goodies. .deb install files are nice and easy.

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 4:18 AM

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I might distro hop at some point

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debian is very nice

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but ya know, I wanna try things

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Alright after i fix up gpu settings i will cleanse windows

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hmm https://i.imgur.com/yBGnBIm.png

Imgur

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intol chan?

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see yall in a hour or so https://i.imgur.com/2icVuHS.png

dusk kernel Jul 17, 2021, 5:35 AM

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frank steeple but ya know, I wanna try things

C'mon Sharkie... try a new distro... expand your horizons... live a little! 😉

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:39 AM

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lol https://i.imgur.com/E2vwB4r.png

Imgur

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 7:41 AM

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i should really just make a check list of all the licenses and accounts i need to deactivate or migrate when i am uninstalling a os 😔

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 12:50 PM

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if you do go with arch i can help with setup

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also just fyi arch can have a gui, if you want it to of course lol

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exhibit A

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657753562247462922/776470395758182460/unknown.png

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 2:10 PM

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dusk kernel C'mon Sharkie... try a new distro... expand your horizons... live a little! 😉

Yeah, main thing is that most distros don't have that many advantages over debian, and it'd take a while to migrate everything over

dusk kernel Jul 17, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Yeah, fair point... gotta weigh the pros/cons of making that sort of change. nod

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 3:20 PM

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That combined with the fact that Nvidia only verifies the software I use on seven repos, I don't really have that much of a reason to switch on my main rig

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Which desktop environment should i use for debian

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 3:40 PM

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Pick your poison.

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I enjoy XFCE for lighter installs (E.x Laptops)

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But, if it's a Desktop, then you could easily just pick something that looks good to you.

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Ok this sounds stupid, how do i login as root, everytime i try it asks for the user password rather than the root password and then says user is not in the sudoers file

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Nvm dum dum i got it

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 5:04 PM

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You don't want to login as root.

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You want to use sudo

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Debian should have sudo by default.

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 5:06 PM

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i use bspwm/sxhkd + polybar, its a tiling window manager with like endless configurability

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it is a bit more complicated to set up, but i enjoy being able to make hotkeys for a ton of stuff through the sxhkd config file and polybar is cool

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 5:09 PM

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I honestly can't really get into TWM's

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 5:51 PM

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bright shell Debian should have sudo by default.

It doesn't, and Ghosty was using sudo

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 5:52 PM

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That's incredibly odd. I thought Arch was the only "super basic" distro.

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 5:52 PM

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No lol

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You don't need sudo, so debian doesn't include it in the base install

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Ehhhh, Sudo is quite nice though so you don't explicitly need to remember 2 passwords.

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Yeah, but it's had multiple security issues and is by no means necessary

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A minimal install of debian is just as Spartan if not more so than arch

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:13 PM

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gentoo

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:20 PM

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no ye i just had to fix sudo permissions

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took me good minute

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 6:23 PM

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night charm gentoo

LFS

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:24 PM

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is that even a distro tho

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Technically no

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:33 PM

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lol

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:34 PM

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one day i might try arch

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:35 PM

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that day is now

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i wanna try lfs... but i probably wont get very far 😁😁

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@frank steeple is there anything more advanced than lfs

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nvm

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https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/lijd7v/linux_from_scratch_great_way_to_learn_about_linux/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

r/linux - Linux From Scratch - great way to learn about linux

1,081 votes and 185 comments so far on Reddit

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its a book kekw

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not a distro

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:45 PM

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ok now how do i go about putting nvidia gpu into windows vm

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:45 PM

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vmware?

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or kvm

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:45 PM

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qemu

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kvm yes

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:45 PM

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that gets pretty advanced quickly

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:46 PM

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xd

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:46 PM

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first off, the display is running off a different gpu right

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gpu passthrough requires 2 gpus, one for host, one for guest

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:46 PM

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rn i believe linux should be on intel gpu, monitor from dgpu output is currently black

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:47 PM

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thats good

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and thats about all i remember xd

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:47 PM

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xD

night charm Jul 17, 2021, 6:47 PM

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i tried doing this awhile ago and failed

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but i also didnt put too much effort into it

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 6:49 PM

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rn i just got vm setup and that's about it lol

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 7:31 PM

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how do you get nouveau

bright shell Jul 17, 2021, 8:25 PM

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Why do you want nouveau?

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It's like, not good.

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Nouveau drivers suck balls since Nvidia won't just open up the source and let people make actually good Linux drivers.

mortal totem Jul 17, 2021, 8:35 PM

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im not planning on using the nvidia for linux but it looks like nouveau is required for some of the things to get it to go into vm

frank steeple Jul 17, 2021, 10:47 PM

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I'm not sure of nouveau will do anything without nvidia

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If something in the repo requires it, it should install automatically

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Hmm

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Should it install auto at any boot or only when it is first installed?

fallow belfry Jul 18, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Normally on install or hardware change

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You can just get the package from your repositories too

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 12:29 AM

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Alright I’ll try something when i get home

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:40 AM

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Ok i tried booting gpu and got this

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:43 AM

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Missing a driver file

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:44 AM

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How do i fix

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:45 AM

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You could try adding i915.modset=1 to the boot flags

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I take it this is a relatively recent intel CPU?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:47 AM

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Ye this is 9th gen, error occur when i attempt to use dgpu

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:48 AM

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What GPU?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:48 AM

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2070

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Are you plugged into the integrated or discrete card?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Both, rn i just changed igpu to primary again so i can get to the desktop

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So like 1 monitor dgpu and 1 igpu

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:50 AM

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What sort of drivers do you have for the dgpu?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:50 AM

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I might not have any xD

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Trying to figure that out

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:50 AM

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That could explain it, if it's trying to use the intel drivers

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You're on debian, right?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:50 AM

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Yes

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:51 AM

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2070 or 2070 super

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Non super

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:51 AM

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https://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/465.31/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-465.31.run
Here are your drivers

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:52 AM

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oh ye how do you run that

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:53 AM

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Once that file is downloaded, run sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target and then reboot, when you reboot, you will be in a tty session, login with your normal username and password

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cd to whatever directory that you saved the download to, then run sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-465.31.run

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Once that is done, run sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target and then reboot to reboot

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Once it reboots you'll be back in your normal GUI with nvidia drivers setup

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You can technically do it without the boot target changes and rebooting, but it usually just works cleaner this way

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:57 AM

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Unable to find development tool ‘cc’ in your path

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 1:58 AM

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sudo apt install build-essential

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:00 AM

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Lol this is fun, now: unable to find kernel source tree for the currently running kernel

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:00 AM

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What's the output of uname -r?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:01 AM

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4.19.0-17-amd64

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:02 AM

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sudo apt install linux-headers-4.19.0-17-amd64 linux-source-4.19

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Ok now getting somewhere

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Or not

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:03 AM

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What this time?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:04 AM

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Started to load but cant load kernel module ‘nvidia.ko’

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:04 AM

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odd

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Little small

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:05 AM

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ooooh

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noview

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:06 AM

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Noview?

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:07 AM

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sudo apt purge *nouveau*

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And then put this in a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf

blacklist nouveau
blacklist lbm-nouveau
options nouveau modeset=0
alias nouveau off
alias lbm-nouveau off

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Then reboot

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Ok hopefully i spelled that right

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Same error

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:12 AM

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What are the results of lsmod | grep -i nouveau

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:13 AM

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There was no output

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:13 AM

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😕

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Did i bork something xD

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I don't think so

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The GPU is plugged in right now, right?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Ya the monitor with it plugged in is on but with no display

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Fans spinning?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:15 AM

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I dont think nouveau installed to begin with either i had some errors before says firmware for module nouveau are missing

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Okay

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Yes spinning and lights on

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:15 AM

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What are in the log files it mentions?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Ahh i got to remember where it was lol

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:16 AM

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/var/log/nvidia-installer.sh

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Oh my it is very long

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Can use less /var/log/nvidia-installer.sh to scroll up and down

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Some of the bottom and top

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Vt-d is enabled with multi monitor and igpu as primary. Is that something i should change

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:24 AM

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That should be fine

sudo rmmod rivafb
sudo rmmod nbidiafb
sudo rmmod rivatv

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Try that, if it doesn't work set the 2070 to primary

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:25 AM

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How how do you exit this less viewer

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Hit q

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Module rivafb is not loaded

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Any of the others do anything?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:28 AM

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All not loaded

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Okay. Go ahead and set the 2070 as primary and unplug the monitor that's hooked up to iGPU

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Im at the login

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Cool, is that on the 2070 monitor?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Ye first it gave same error but then go to login, it is still on tty tho if that means anything

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Okay, that should be fine then

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Now it asking for 32bit libraries yes or no

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Do i need that

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Yes

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They're nice, especially for steam

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Because steam is still mostly 32 bit for some unknown reason...

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Sadge

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Yup, install those things it says

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sudo apt pkg-config libglvnd-dev

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:37 AM

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I click ok and it went through installation anyway. Should i install that still

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Should be fine

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:44 AM

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Ok i get snack then more fun stuff xD

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Are there any good guides on how to pass gpu into qemu kvm

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 3:14 AM

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None that I've used, but I'm sure there are some out there

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 3:19 AM

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Oki i look

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 3:39 AM

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gnome twitter pfp is not cropped properly ssadge

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 3:47 AM

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I hate that

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 3:57 AM

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f

dusk kernel Jul 18, 2021, 4:27 AM

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They're just being artistic with the PFP. 🙂

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 4:46 AM

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love it

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 5:05 AM

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ok im having trouble getting a gpu into vm but i got to find error first

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Ok well it looks like the gpu likes to work now and its outputting but no win installer instead i see this

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 5:37 AM

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Hmm i might be getting somewhere

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insatll successful, next to figure out code 43 in windows

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 7:09 AM

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if anyone knows how to bypass the code 43 error that shuts down nvidia gpu in a vm lemme, know im still searching, but for now i slep

bright shell Jul 18, 2021, 12:11 PM

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Uhhh, didn't that get fixed with 30 series cards?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Im on 20 series

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 2:17 PM

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lol i found this https://youtu.be/JGvrXXonoqM

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ow ye it did work, just had to update to latest driver, thanks nvidia 🙂

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 3:43 PM

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BattleEye has confirmed that they are working with valve to add Linux support

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Same with EAC

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https://tenor.com/view/thanos-last-stone-mind-stone-gauntlet-infinity-war-gif-12255971

Tenor

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Yawy

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Are playing games through a vm still going to be problem with anti cheat tho

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Probably

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 4:23 PM

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😦

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But anyway that going to help a lot for linux gaming

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Good news is you probably won't need to use VM

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Ye exactly xD

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Gonna try to finally join linux gang

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But for now i have to fix up my vm so it use right amount of cores and ram haha

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Also im not at pc rn but i ask anyway, does anyone know how to make the qemu vm windows mirror instead of extend windows? Rn the windows desktop comes up on a second monitor from a dgpu with pci passthrough but the actual qemu window is basically another display in windows

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Hmm now if only linux had vr

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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mortal totem Also im not at pc rn but i ask anyway, does anyone know how to make the qemu vm ...

does windows + p not work?

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 6:00 PM

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mortal totem Hmm now if only linux had vr

TRUE

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 6:02 PM

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No like so that qemu doesnt see the windows as another display so its just the gpu output, i found something called looking glass might work but i got to look more

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I might be able to get q2 vr with vm but i dont think itll work,

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 6:03 PM

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i dont see why not

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2070 should have a USB C on the card, no?

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^ might make it even easier

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Ya and rn it’s looks like all the drivers on windows are working

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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mortal totem Gonna try to finally join linux gang

so like full linux for primary use?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Tho i do also plan to make a windows install on part of the drive used for the vms so i can do testing on others pcs with it

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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also sorry for all the pings, i forget to disable it after i reply once

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Haha

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Well i try to learn linux

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 6:05 PM

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which distro did you settle on?

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Rn im on debian

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I am tempted to try arch but that might be awhile xD

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 8:21 PM

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There's not really that much of an advantage that arch has

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It's just hard to install, that's all

night charm Jul 18, 2021, 8:30 PM

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um... neofetch...

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arch logo cool 😠

frank steeple Jul 18, 2021, 8:32 PM

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meh

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#

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There are cooler ones

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tight eagle Jul 18, 2021, 8:36 PM

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🪟

mortal totem Jul 18, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Rainbow macos best

night charm Jul 19, 2021, 4:08 AM

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going to dip my toes in debian

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 4:08 AM

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ok, anyone know how i can put an entire hdd into a qemu/kvm

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ayy nice

night charm Jul 19, 2021, 4:08 AM

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hmm

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does it show up in the windows program for creating/formatting hard disks?

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or only the virtual

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 4:09 AM

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oh i didn't check that menu but i think it was only the virtual storage that was up

night charm Jul 19, 2021, 4:09 AM

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worth a shot

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(i dont really know but im trying to find out with you lol)

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 4:10 AM

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yes anything is appreciated xD

frank steeple Jul 19, 2021, 4:11 AM

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mortal totem ok, anyone know how i can put an entire hdd into a qemu/kvm

If it's PCIe or USB you can definitely do passthrough, not too sure about sata though

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 4:12 AM

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yup its sata xD, i see a option to add storage with bus type options SATA and VirtIO but i hope that wouldn't delete any drives

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oh and i found out im stupid, I was trying to install nvidia driver on linux before because i was missing things but the guide i was following was blacklisting and deleting all the drivers xD so i was really set from the beginning but whatever I have feeling i might need in future anyway so good to know

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 5:39 AM

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how do i connect to a network drive in debian

spiral widget Jul 19, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Ok I just thought of this and I know the answer is probably no but did Linus make it???

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 6:35 PM

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linus who xD

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 7:06 PM

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ok i tried using oculus quest 2 in windows vm and it works

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that about all i can say xD

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had to use gpu usb c port because you need separate controller passthrough for oculus to see headset, but the experience was not the most pleasant, a lot of stutters, but that could be the way i attached the storage holding the game or the port

spiral widget Jul 19, 2021, 7:47 PM

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mortal totem linus who xD

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@mortal totem

frank steeple Jul 19, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Not him

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Linux was made by the true Linus

mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 10:13 PM

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The one and only

frank steeple Jul 19, 2021, 10:14 PM

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mortal totem Jul 19, 2021, 10:23 PM

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I tried to find gif but they all have bad word xD

zealous lantern Jul 19, 2021, 11:31 PM

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if linus tech tips made a distro i could imagine his being pronounced like lie-nux

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similar to how he pronounces his name

fallow belfry Jul 19, 2021, 11:35 PM

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I could make a LTT distro, 'nux is open source and all I need to do is change a few variables, add some custom graphics, and hope they don't sue

spiral widget Jul 19, 2021, 11:52 PM

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zealous lantern if linus tech tips made a distro i could imagine his being pronounced like lie-n...

There is one lol

zealous lantern Jul 19, 2021, 11:54 PM

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wait is it actually made by him

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i just thought that the idea would be funny but i didn't realize it exists

bright shell Jul 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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mortal totem I tried to find gif but they all have bad word xD

As a mod, can't you just campaign to remove the bad word filter?

fallow belfry Jul 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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That filter is what's keeping you from being flooded with bots spamming @ everyone

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Believe me, they try

night charm Jul 20, 2021, 12:21 AM

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tried debian, couldnt figure out how to make a startup script, gave up

fallow belfry Jul 20, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Quitters never prosper
Only cheaters do

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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And no not much campaign, that is for head of community to decide i suppose

frank steeple Jul 20, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Mods are technically not included in the filter, but ya know

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It's nice to have

fallow belfry Jul 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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So what you're saying is once I become a mod I can drop all the F bombs I want?

obtuse scarab Jul 20, 2021, 1:35 AM

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so I installed Linux on a pretty slow hard drive just to try it and now I'm hooked, should I get a new ssd so I can dual boot?

fallow belfry Jul 20, 2021, 1:36 AM

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If you want. You can also set it up so it uses like 20GB and shares the main drive.

obtuse scarab Jul 20, 2021, 1:37 AM

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wouldnt I have to partion that tho and then I will have to format it

sleek halo Jul 20, 2021, 1:39 AM

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In the Linux installer there should be an option to install alongside Windows

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It will partition itself for you

frank steeple Jul 20, 2021, 1:44 AM

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Linux is already installed, also most installers don't have that auto partition and dual boot option

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 1:45 AM

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just use vm like me, lot nicer instead of rebooting everytime

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speaking of which, if i try to install windows on a unallocated section of one ssd should i have any problems? would it wipe the whole drive?

frank steeple Jul 20, 2021, 1:46 AM

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You should be able to install to free space only

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 1:46 AM

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hopefully all goes well xD

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but that's for later anyway, now i have to try to fix up this hdd

fallow belfry Jul 20, 2021, 1:50 AM

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It's easy to resize the Windows partition to be a little smaller, then tell Linux to install in free space

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 2:00 AM

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ye i just can't remember what the options were even tho i done so many win installs before haha

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 2:19 AM

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if i got a pcie sata controller would that make it easier and faster to pass a sata hdd into vms?

frank steeple Jul 20, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Yes

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 3:45 AM

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i may invest in one now

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maybe a usb controller too and hook up a hub to it, is there anything i should look out for in a controller? or are they all pretty much the same

mortal totem Jul 20, 2021, 4:28 AM

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@frank steeple do you know how i can get spdif to work in debian? one of my external dacs runs on spdif direct to pc but i don't see option to use for sound

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ahh nvm im dumb

brave isle Jul 21, 2021, 7:09 AM

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Has anyone here installed Cisco Packet Tracer on anything that's not Ubuntu or Debian?

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Running Garuda right now

mortal totem Jul 22, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Baa channel bad babe

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Name

brave isle Jul 23, 2021, 5:13 AM

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?

night sierra Jul 23, 2021, 6:53 PM

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anyone have a beginners guide to linux

frank steeple Jul 23, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Install and go

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If you need something search your app store program for it first

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That's pretty much it

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https://youtu.be/_Ua-d9OeUOg
Anthony has a good video going over some stuff

YouTube

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How to install Linux instead of Windows 11

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▶ Play video

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Note that you probably don't need wine at this point, and the shadow play alternative is completely optional

mortal totem Jul 23, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Oh ye they just posted that i was gonna link it here xD

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But you still need wine for non steam games right?

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I wish oculus link would be on linux

frank steeple Jul 23, 2021, 11:24 PM

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I think there's a way to get non steam programs to run through proton

mortal totem Jul 23, 2021, 11:24 PM

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really?

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for ex; something like overwatch?

sleek halo Jul 26, 2021, 2:27 AM

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HI

cerulean magnet Jul 26, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Highest activity met today in #linux-and-android chat, this peak will never be surpassed

brave isle Jul 26, 2021, 2:30 AM

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lmao

night charm Jul 26, 2021, 5:20 AM

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mortal totem for ex; something like overwatch?

you gotta be careful with their anticheat tho

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account could get perma banned

mortal totem Jul 26, 2021, 10:34 AM

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Ow ._.

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Well i don’t wanna do that now

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 12:37 PM

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I'm having trouble installing extensions for vscode

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/374627183760506890/869534009053548564/Screenshot_2021-07-27-12-57-16_1024x796.png

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What could be wrong? Typing ping 1.1.1.1 in Alacritty works, so I'm def connected to the internet.

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 1:33 PM

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as a workaround, I can still install extensions from vsix files. Still, it would be very helpful to have access to the marketplace

frank steeple Jul 27, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Where did you download vscode from?

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 7:57 PM

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I got it from the AUR, yay -S code

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I forgot to update that I solved it, using instead yay -S visual-studio-code-bin

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Wonder how I was supposed to know that tho

frank steeple Jul 27, 2021, 7:59 PM

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I don't even see a package called code in the AUR

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That would have been my first hint that that's not the right way

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 8:01 PM

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ah, might've been code-git

frank steeple Jul 27, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Ah

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Yeah, that could do it

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That's a cobbled together community build. It's gonna be missing features

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 8:03 PM

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I see. How do you know this?

frank steeple Jul 27, 2021, 8:03 PM

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By reading the documentation

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visual-studio-code-bin is the official binary

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ahh I see

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Pinned comment here https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/visual-studio-code-bin

AUR (en) - visual-studio-code-bin

Visual Studio Code (vscode): Editor for building and debugging modern web and cloud applications (official binary version)

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thanks :)

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gotta get in the habit of checking docs. Just switched to arch since I got a new laptop

frank steeple Jul 27, 2021, 8:12 PM

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I'd really recommend checking what you're installing from the AUR before you install it

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It's had malware on it before

finite cargo Jul 27, 2021, 8:51 PM

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:o good call

kind panther Jul 28, 2021, 3:15 AM

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@frank steeple how do you feel about daily driving an old android phone thats running linux?

bright shell Jul 28, 2021, 3:46 AM

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Ok, I'm absolutely flabbergasted that most of the Battlefield games run perfectly out of the box on Proton

frank steeple Jul 28, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Most games in general now run out of the box

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More coming soon

mortal totem Jul 28, 2021, 11:24 AM

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Linux gaming epic

fallow belfry Jul 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

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Direct storage on Linux when?

mortal totem Jul 28, 2021, 11:25 AM

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I heard that oculus is discontinuing their proprietary api and moving to openxr, i wonder if that can help at all with getting oculus on linux

frank steeple Jul 28, 2021, 3:08 PM

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fallow belfry Direct storage on Linux when?

Technically now I think

lone flame Jul 29, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Well, Windows 11 finally convinced me to completely switch to Linux. Expect me to migrate over in about a month.

Looking at either POP OS or Manjaro. (What do y'all think? I have some experience with both)

Any advice for making this transition as smooth as possible?

sleek halo Jul 29, 2021, 1:34 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ua-d9OeUOg

YouTube

Linus Tech Tips

How to install Linux instead of Windows 11

Join us in War Thunder for FREE at https://playwt.link/JoinLinusTechTips Get an exclusive bonus using our link - thanks for supporting the channel!

Windows 11 is about to make a lot of people feel left behind, but there’s one operating system that’s recently been getting better and better for new and old hardware…

Check out Pop!_OS: https://po...

▶ Play video

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This is a great video on PopOS

lone flame Jul 29, 2021, 1:35 AM

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I'll give it a look! Thanks!

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Also, is Lili and Sara back in ban jail?

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It's been a while since I've been on the server...

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 2:14 AM

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Yes

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Anyone here use or has used Garuda?

ripe knotBOT Jul 29, 2021, 3:55 AM

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Monoxide.exe#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Whatcha looking at it for?

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 3:56 AM

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I'm using it

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Used to use Kali, sucked, went Garuda, or other's like to say "Durrrr I use Arch"

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 3:57 AM

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You daily drove Kali?

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Yes, most of the attraction was the tools.

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Oof

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 3:57 AM

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I have a budget laptop

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Wanted to make it "lighter"

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 3:57 AM

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I assume you quickly learned that Kali wasn't a good idea?

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 3:58 AM

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I'm stubborn, but I eventually stopped

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Rn I just dual boot with Garuda

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 3:59 AM

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So what led you to Garuda? It's definitely one of the lesser known distros

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Sure I've only used two distros, and the experience with Linux has been incredibly inconsistent and inconvenient with hoops to jump through that wouldn't be a problem with Mac OS or Windows in the slightest.

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By hoops I mean fixing problems from seemingly stupid to difficult

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:01 AM

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frank steeple So what led you to Garuda? It's definitely one of the lesser known distros

Hype men Youtubers, the interface, the "ease of use"

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:01 AM

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One thing you might look at for a Garuda laptop is some power management tool like tlp

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Power consumption is not good

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:01 AM

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They have the CPU balanced towards speed by default, which tends to eat battery

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:02 AM

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TLP, acronym meaning?

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Ngl, I forget

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Laptop something?

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:02 AM

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I've tried calcule kernel I believe it's called, then went back to zen

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:03 AM

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https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/TLP

TLP

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Zen is a good kernel

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:03 AM

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I just love how Garuda f***ing removed the shutdown button out of nowhere

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Bluetooth can't turn back on

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Stupid small to large issues

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:04 AM

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That's odd

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To be fair, I don't use that button anyway

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:05 AM

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I also wanna slap the next person who tells me to "Just use Wine" when trying to run a program where there's no Linux supported version.

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Wine is garbage, it has never worked for me, I hate it.

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Wine is fine, proton tends to be better

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Wine is best with winetricks so you can actually take advantage of all the tweaking options

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:08 AM

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Isn't proton for Steam games, my recollection is rough

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 4:10 AM

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Valve develops proton and has it built into steam, but you can use it to run non-steam programs

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 4:42 AM

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I thinking about just getting a next gen MacBook with the M1X, M2, whatever they wanna call it. I'm switching over to iPhone anyways this fall

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Never owned a MacBook nor iPhone though I'm familiar with both.

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Eh, I'd see what comes out to compete with them

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Some big name companies are starting to put out their own arm laptops

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 5:50 AM

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But Windows and Linux support is bad?

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 6:44 AM

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I'm gonna try Manjaro, what do you think?

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TLP doesn't seem to be active or work, for an instance it did, but upon reboot, no.

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Did you set it to start on boot?

brave isle Jul 29, 2021, 11:57 AM

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frank steeple Did you set it to start on boot?

I read it was auto, but tried the command to turn it on and only received errors

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 12:16 PM

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Garuda uses systemd, right?

bright shell Jul 29, 2021, 1:31 PM

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frank steeple Garuda uses systemd, right?

I'd hope so. Most modern distros worth their salt use systemd.

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 1:40 PM

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bright shell I'd hope so. Most modern distros worth their salt use systemd.

That is most definitely not true

bright shell Jul 29, 2021, 1:40 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

frank steeple Jul 29, 2021, 1:40 PM

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More and more are moving off systemd

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Matter of fact, the current top distro on distrowatch uses SysV

finite cargo Jul 29, 2021, 4:48 PM

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How feasible is it to switch from X11 to Wayland without reinstalling? I installed Archcraft and really like it, but I want to set an animated wallpaper.

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paperview, the only solution I know of, writes the animated wallpaper to the root window. This conflicts with compositors, which also do that.

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This means that, to have an animated desktop, I have to forego transparency, which is a deal breaker for me.
I heard that Wayland has actual support for animated wallpapers, so I was thinking maybe I could switch to that?

brave isle Jul 30, 2021, 2:59 AM

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frank steeple Garuda uses systemd, right?

No idea, btw I'm unfamiliar with the word

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I went to Manjaro, now got shorter battery life even though TLP is integrated

bright shell Jul 30, 2021, 3:44 AM

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finite cargo How feasible is it to switch from X11 to Wayland without reinstalling? I install...

I wouldn't use Wayland if you are on an Nvidia GPU

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Wayland and Nvidia don't really work together.

finite cargo Jul 30, 2021, 7:00 AM

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I'm on an Intel iGPU

toxic ermine Jul 30, 2021, 7:15 AM

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linud

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oops I'm new to discord. Hi i watch linus and jays2cents and many others.

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Oh yeah theres alot to chat about but very few who will understand or listen? maybe everyone is sleeping.

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--version

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install program name how to setup program to run on boot?

brave isle Jul 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

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toxic ermine install program name how to setup program to run on boot?

Does not compute

raw beacon Jul 30, 2021, 10:42 AM

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brave isle Does not compute

Right?

brave isle Jul 30, 2021, 11:19 AM

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frank steeple More and more are moving off systemd

Long story short, I went to Pop OS. I deleted a whole rant on different distros including Pop, but deleted it from the cringe. Installed TLP, enabled, but how to I have it automated? Manjaro had it integrated and always on.

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Battery estimate at idle is 1:29, with TLP it's 5:29, and when doing light work it's 4:28

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@frank steeple I've figured it out. It was just bad timing. It takes about 2min for TLP to kick in even after checking the status of it in terminal giving a false positive of it being on.

brave isle Jul 31, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Why here?

frank steeple Aug 1, 2021, 12:33 AM

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I'm impressed

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FreeBSD

hazy river Aug 1, 2021, 1:35 PM

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whoa

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freebsd game

lone flame Aug 3, 2021, 7:37 AM

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got Ubuntu up and running on my Surface Book 1! Testing on this before I make the switch on my main!

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Gunna do POPos on my main

lone flame Aug 3, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Okay, I'm trying to get Howdy to work with my surface book. I am running the Linux-Surface kernel to enable the camera and touch. The camera is working in qcam, but not in cheese. Can I get some advice on how to set up Howdy?

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please @ ping me if you are replying so that I get a notification.

frank steeple Aug 3, 2021, 10:06 PM

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lone flame Okay, I'm trying to get Howdy to work with my surface book. I am running the Li...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Howdy

Howdy

night charm Aug 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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frank steeple https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Howdy

THIS EXISTS??

frank steeple Aug 3, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Wait

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The wiki in general or that page?

night charm Aug 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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the package

frank steeple Aug 3, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Ah

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Yup

bright shell Aug 4, 2021, 5:18 PM

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lone flame got Ubuntu up and running on my Surface Book 1! Testing on this before I make t...

I'm sorry you went through the hell to run Linux on a surface device.

frank steeple Aug 4, 2021, 5:50 PM

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It's not really that bad

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Especially on the older devices

desert trail Aug 4, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Should I put Linux on my pentium 4?

tight eagle Aug 4, 2021, 9:06 PM

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Wouldn't be a bad idea

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A small distro or something I guess

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Maybe you could turn it into a NAS with whatever NAS OS people use

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Freenas I think

mortal totem Aug 5, 2021, 4:30 PM

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how do you set default audio device in debian, i managed to get it to get correct output when first booting up, but when pc goes in standby for whatever reason it keeps reverting back to hdmi

frank steeple Aug 5, 2021, 5:34 PM

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pavucontrol should be able to do that

wooden moat Aug 8, 2021, 10:57 PM

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fellow linux people

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i require a lot of assistance but for now i only have one question

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why does my bluetooth keep turning on and off? works fone for a bit and then simply doesnt

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it is pop os on a lenovo g50-30 if i recall correctly

wooden moat Aug 9, 2021, 8:59 AM

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i guess no help for this random stranger

tight eagle Aug 9, 2021, 12:17 PM

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Happens sometimes

mortal totem Aug 9, 2021, 12:20 PM

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You can check some of the steps here i suppose https://support.system76.com/articles/bluetooth

System76 Support

Bluetooth Troubleshooting

Here is how to fix several common Bluetooth issues with your computer.

wooden moat Aug 9, 2021, 12:39 PM

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thenk

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so far i did rfkill unblock. now its just my controller that keeps disconnecting. i will look more into it xP

nocturne dragon Aug 10, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Does anyone have suggestions for distros (or varied flavors of distros) for a new user of Linux like me? I tried Mint but the Mint OS distro by default looked very prototype-like almost to me (like the OS hasn't been visually refined). I have considered Ubuntu, Mint, and Pop OS with me leaning towards Ubuntu but I don't know how locked down that distro is as I want to be able to learn to become a power user of Linux before 2025 (when they stop support for Win 10 and I switch permanently).

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I should also clarify this: I am a gamer during my free time but also use my computer for work applications and would need to use a distro that supports that more easily.

mortal totem Aug 10, 2021, 3:59 PM

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Pop os probably bit easier to use but if that is your goal maybe you want to try ubuntu since it is popular and can find lot of info on it

frank steeple Aug 10, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Ubuntu is falling out of popularity, I'd recommend Pop

mortal totem Aug 10, 2021, 4:47 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Pop is getting a lot of attention lately

nocturne dragon Aug 10, 2021, 7:10 PM

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thanks for the advice you two!

frank steeple Aug 10, 2021, 7:45 PM

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An open letter to all arch users out there:

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Fight me

mortal totem Aug 11, 2021, 2:12 AM

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also bob forgot to say, i do have the pulse audio control panel but for whatever reason the configuration likes to change back to hdmi

rustic stump Aug 11, 2021, 8:19 AM

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frank steeple An open letter to all arch users out there:

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tons of init i wonder what is that xD

fallow belfry Aug 11, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Ubuntu 😳

kind panther Aug 11, 2021, 10:32 AM

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its the ubuntu app for windows lol

wooden moat Aug 11, 2021, 9:42 PM

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sigh i tried a lot of stuff to fix my bluetooth issue with pop os but it seems to keep happening. what i see is that it looks for devices and then turns itself off momentarily before opening back on

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i have tried finding the latest bluez version, ublocking, looking into power saving options. tlp isnt installed, messing around with the settings, checking for firmware updates but still no clue. doing a btmon shows that it just closes its own bluetooth address and then somehow opens it again

rustic stump Aug 11, 2021, 10:14 PM

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fallow belfry Ubuntu 😳

Wsl2 ubuntu

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It uses real kernel now unlike wsl1

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All gui apps in ubuntu if u installed one will listed as installed app in windows allows u to just run it like native app

fallow belfry Aug 11, 2021, 11:17 PM

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And you still haven't modded it so it runs another OS? Smh

frank steeple Aug 11, 2021, 11:33 PM

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You don't need to, you can select from a few of the big name distros

fallow belfry Aug 11, 2021, 11:40 PM

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That's even worse, that means you made a conscious decision to use Ubuntu over another distro

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I haven't really played with wsl2 (first version was awful and never touched it again) so I just stick with my dual boot

rustic stump Aug 12, 2021, 2:11 AM

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fallow belfry And you still haven't modded it so it runs another OS? Smh

u can use arch theres arch distro too

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theres centos too

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wsl2 can do gpu compute now

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https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/wsl-user-guide/index.html

CUDA on WSL :: CUDA Toolkit Documentation

The guide for using NVIDIA CUDA on Windows Subsystem for Linux.

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good for doing machine learning

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im waiting rocm find its way to wsl2.. it seems PyTorch cuda is already got it first to wsl2.. soon as microsoft enable gpu compute under wsl2 ..

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no more passthru gpu xD and dual boot

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cedar steeple Aug 12, 2021, 10:03 AM

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lone flame Well, Windows 11 finally convinced me to completely switch to Linux. Expect me t...

why switch linux
if linux why not use hanna montanna os lmao

frank steeple Aug 12, 2021, 10:55 AM

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No

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It's not maintained any more as far as I know

cedar steeple Aug 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

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😦

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it funy

frank steeple Aug 12, 2021, 2:31 PM

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Justin Bieber Linux should still be maintained

zealous lantern Aug 12, 2021, 10:49 PM

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lmao at celebrity OS's

frank steeple Aug 12, 2021, 11:16 PM

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There's also Kim Jong-Un linux

rustic stump Aug 12, 2021, 11:49 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/fHW0MZ8-aa0AAAAM/antivirus-useless.gif

cedar steeple Aug 13, 2021, 12:56 AM

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frank steeple There's also Kim Jong-Un linux

yes

zealous lantern Aug 14, 2021, 1:57 AM

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rustic stump https://c.tenor.com/fHW0MZ8-aa0AAAAM/antivirus-useless.gif

true

lyric gazelle Aug 14, 2021, 7:39 AM

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how do i download linux for the first time?

frank steeple Aug 14, 2021, 2:32 PM

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lyric gazelle how do i download linux for the first time?

You pick what distro you want, download what's called an iso file for that distro, and then use a tool called Rufus to flash that iso file to a USB drive

bright shell Aug 14, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I'd recommend looking at the latest Linux video from Linus tech tips

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It's quite comprehensive and easy to follow

frank steeple Aug 14, 2021, 7:18 PM

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teehee

bright shell Aug 14, 2021, 11:31 PM

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I'm running PopOS on my Laptop. It's pretty dope.

nocturne dragon Aug 15, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I personally have been trying PopOS on our living room computer and we are loving it so far.

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I originally installed Ubuntu but we messed up the partitioning during setup for how we use computers but rectified it when we installed Pop.

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I would recommend trying it and seeing if you like it before getting attached as not every Distro will be for you.

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I guess I should mention that I haven't ever even used Linux until a half week ago. I did install Mint at one point to my sister's laptop but that was to make it usable and I didn't really give it a fair try as I hated the way it looked.

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 3:24 AM

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You can change pretty much everything about the looks

nocturne dragon Aug 15, 2021, 3:31 AM

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I know

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but, needless to say, I am struggling to remember the most basic commands like Xrandr and even Sudo which is important for most things I have looked up how to do

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I am enjoying the OS so much with Pop that I am honestly considering fully switching over to it early even though I promised myself I would wait until either full game support = to Windows becomes possible (likely due to the software they are using for Steam Deck getting adapted) or the year 2025 when Microsoft drops support for Win10.

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They said it would be their last OS and I purchased it (even though I knew they weren't being honest) so I am making it the last OS of theirs I use unless required to do so because of a work requirement.

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 3:41 AM

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You don't really ever need xrandr, just install kde plasma, open up the themes, and install one that you think looks good

bright shell Aug 15, 2021, 3:50 AM

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I honestly don't know if Windows 11 will be the last straw for me.

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The Steam Deck will have to make Linux have 100% compatibility across ALL Steam games before I give Linux the full switch.

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And even then, I'd be using PopOS. Since it has a fairly easy to use installation, and honestly does ignore most of my gripes with Linux, like using the Terminal.

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 3:55 AM

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I don't think they'll hit full 100%, that's basically impossible. I can see them getting 100% for the top thousand or even ten thousand titles though

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Terminal is great part of linux

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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They're currently in at about 70% with the top 1,000, with the main hold ups being from anti cheat

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Much better than win cmd

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Isn't cmd deprecated in favor of pwsh?

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 3:58 AM

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No idea

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I dont use modern versions of windows

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Wait, I did my math wrong

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I forgot to include native titles

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 3:59 AM

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Lol

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Proton is sitting at around 90% compatibility for top 1,000

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 4:01 AM

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Steam helping out the penguin kannapog

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Ye i was gonna say 70 seem a bit low xD

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Forgot that 20% or so are just native now

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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But real question is will Adobe ever come to linux

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Some software has

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Creative suite will probably be a bit

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Hmm how can you get osu on linux

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Of the 19,316 in protondb, 15,755 are reported as working

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I know mc osu is native

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 4:04 AM

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No no mc osu, standard osu

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Smh

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Osu proper is open source, right?

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Yup, it runs on Linux

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https://github.com/ppy/osu

GitHub

GitHub - ppy/osu: rhythm is just a *click* away!

rhythm is just a click away! Contribute to ppy/osu development by creating an account on GitHub.

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It's for their new reworked client though

mortal totem Aug 15, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Aww

frank steeple Aug 15, 2021, 4:15 AM

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So it will be coming soon

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Not sure what the release schedule is

zealous lantern Aug 16, 2021, 5:16 AM

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i realized it was better for me to use endeavouros instead of windows, especially once windows 10 officially loses support

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works for school stuff and other business, even art stuff

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i just need to get adobe cc working with wine if i can

kind panther Aug 16, 2021, 5:17 AM

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zealous lantern i realized it was better for me to use endeavouros instead of windows, especiall...

I mean you can just take the free upgrade to win 11

zealous lantern Aug 16, 2021, 5:18 AM

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i did and have the installation medium on me just in case

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but if i go back, i need to figure out how i should run both operating systems without my pc shutting down randomly

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i think the problem i had last time was that the ubuntu version i used alongside windows was legacy, not uefi

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ubuntu is somewhat behind on things, but i think the problem was the use of a legacy os with uefi

fallow belfry Aug 16, 2021, 5:23 AM

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You've got a whole 4 years left of official windows 10 support, it ends October 2025

zealous lantern Aug 16, 2021, 5:29 AM

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oh right

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i have been rather indecisive on which one i want to work with more, but i guess i’ll keep win10 for big art programs

bright shell Aug 16, 2021, 1:08 PM

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zealous lantern i just need to get adobe cc working with wine if i can

You can't. It just doesn't work.

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Unless something changed in the past 2 years I tried to do it. It just flat doesn't work.

zealous lantern Aug 16, 2021, 1:44 PM

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i figured it didnt

bright shell Aug 16, 2021, 1:51 PM

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If you are a creative type, I'd just get an M1 Macbook and call it a day for work.

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MacOS is... surprisingly well geared for creative workloads.

frank steeple Aug 16, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Lots change in two years

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I've seen reports of partial functionality, but it's a hassle to get working

mortal totem Aug 16, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Ive seen it work in linux, but ye bit of a pain

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And sometimes stuck on much older versions

zealous lantern Aug 16, 2021, 5:01 PM

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i already built my pc and want to make it look pretty, and i dont want to bother with mac tbh

frank steeple Aug 16, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Don't

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It's not worth it

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Arm will be nice, but not yet. It doesn't really have enough support

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 12:06 AM

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mortal totem Aug 17, 2021, 12:20 AM

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See windows bad

raw beacon Aug 17, 2021, 12:20 AM

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night charm

Lol

zealous lantern Aug 17, 2021, 1:56 AM

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Losedows

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Update your windows

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Now

coral mango Aug 17, 2021, 3:32 PM

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night charm

that screenshot causes me physical pain

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Man, it's scary how fast my laptop starts with Pop!_OS on it.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Whatever happened to pop being a baby distro for babies lol

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Note to Self: Schiit gear isn't 100% going to work out of the box...

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For Linux

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So, I need either an RCA to 3.5mm cable and I'll just get the amp... Or I have to go digging for software...

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So, no stack for me on my Laptop...

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F

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 10:57 PM

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bright shell Note to Self: Schiit gear isn't 100% going to work out of the box...

It should work

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 10:57 PM

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It's not working out of the box on Pop!_OS

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Our DACs work with any Linux distro that supports UAC2 (USB Audio Class 2).

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Pop has UAC2

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Well, it ain't working out of the box. I guess I need to check with System76 Support

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 10:58 PM

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Check pavucontrol to see if it's showing up

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Let me plug it back in.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 10:59 PM

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You might just be sending your audio to the wrong device

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 10:59 PM

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I checked the Sound Settings panel

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It didn't even show up

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:00 PM

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Don't bother with the system sound panel, just go straight to pavucontrol

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:00 PM

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so... sudo apt pavucontrol ?

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Idk what it's called in the Pop Shop

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Ok, it's not showing up in pavucontrol

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:02 PM

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If you have pulse it should already be installed

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:02 PM

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I searched it in the thing and it didn't seem to be installed.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:03 PM

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Odd, usually it's packaged

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Try sudo apt install pavucontrol

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:04 PM

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sigh Pop doesn't have a quick command to get to the Terminal...

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Yeah... It doesn't exist to Pop (The Modi)

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:08 PM

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That's very weird. It's USB, right?

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:08 PM

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bright shell *sigh* Pop doesn't have a quick command to get to the Terminal...

Super+T

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:10 PM

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frank steeple That's very weird. It's USB, right?

Yes.

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Ohhhhh. Super + T is super weird IMO

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Might find a way to make it Alt + T

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 11:11 PM

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anything but arch/gentoo/lfs is for babies

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:12 PM

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night charm anything but arch/gentoo/lfs is for babies

Alpine would like to know your location

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Hey, I did at one point do an Arch install from Scratch.

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But, I couldn't get Hybrid Graphics to work.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Imagine using systemd and gnu bloat

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Hey now, I used systemd on my Arch install.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:12 PM

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And it's crappy bloat

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 11:13 PM

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pop os users probably dont even have a libreboot thinkpad with the wifi chip removed 🙄

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fake linux users

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:13 PM

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Why TF would you remove your wifi card on a LAPTOP of all things?

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:13 PM

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Because it's absolutely proprietary

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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its bloat

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Seriously lowers your battery life

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Uhhhhh, but you need Wi-Fi.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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No?

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Ethernet is a thing

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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But it's a Laptop

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It's meant to be a WIRELESS device.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Laptops have Ethernet

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

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That defeats the point of it being a Laptop

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 11:15 PM

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at that point the battery in the laptop is bloat too, since its gonna be plugged into an ethernet the probability of having a outlet nearby is high

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:15 PM

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No

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Yes.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Most of the time do you really even need the internet?

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:15 PM

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If you remove Wi-Fi, and use Ethernet, you defeat the purpose of having it be a Laptop

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Yes.

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Yes I do.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:15 PM

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Why?

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Internet is proprietary garbage run by companies that want to steal your freedom

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:16 PM

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Let's see... To talk to people, to gain knowledge, to laugh, to figure out my work schedule... Need I say more things?

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 11:16 PM

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the internet is literally propaganda

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:16 PM

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And you are using it right now to communicate with me.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:16 PM

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Why would you want any of that? You'd give up your freedom for so little?

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If you really need to communicate hook up an SDR into your CD tray

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It's free, and the cops can't stop you

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I'm assuming you have a radio operator's license?

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:18 PM

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Yeah... Nope.

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Who has one of those these days?

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:18 PM

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Wtf are you doing with your life?

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It's free to get one

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:19 PM

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Being a productive human being?

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And why TF would I need a Radio Operator's License?

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:19 PM

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It takes maybe a week of study

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To use a radio

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:19 PM

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For what purpose? I can much more quickly communicate with ANYONE using the Internet.

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Radio is only useful for music, and even then it's meh for that.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM

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It's one of the last truly free forms of communication

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM

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I'd rather just use my iPod

night charm Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM

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arch was my first distro... my parents are too overprotective 🙄 i totally could have handled at LEAST gentoo...

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Free
Can't Swear on the Radio

KnucklesThinking

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Not on commercial radio no

bright shell Aug 17, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Can't swear on radio in-general.

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And Radio is pretty short range.

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:21 PM

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You're not just gonna go around getting a commercial radio license

frank steeple Aug 17, 2021, 11:21 PM

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bright shell And Radio is pretty short range.

Worldwide actually

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You can use a radio to talk to people on the opposite side of the world

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Minimal communication lag

fallow belfry Aug 18, 2021, 2:40 AM

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You'd need some kind of repeater to do that. Radio waves don't just go through the mantle of the earth.
Alternatively, the internet is a thing. They make phones with PTT functions using voip.

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:48 AM

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fallow belfry You'd need some kind of repeater to do that. Radio waves don't just go through t...

No, but they do bounce off of the ionosphere and the ocean

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Depending on the wavelength

fallow belfry Aug 18, 2021, 2:49 AM

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You'd need a really powerful transmitter to avoid the signal degrading into static

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:49 AM

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Surprisingly not

fallow belfry Aug 18, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Then what's my local radio station's excuse?
I know they need to limit the power to stay in fcc regulation but the transmitter is 15 miles from me and still gets static

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:51 AM

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1,000 miles per watt is obtainable with the right antenna

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:51 AM

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fallow belfry Then what's my local radio station's excuse? I know they need to limit the power...

What frequency?

fallow belfry Aug 18, 2021, 2:51 AM

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High 90s mhz

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:51 AM

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FM?

fallow belfry Aug 18, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Yeah

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:52 AM

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That doesn't really bounce

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Can get line of site, maybe a bit more with the right weather

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Commercial radio stations also try to get as even of a spread as possible, so they're spreading their power over a full 360° doughnut shape

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Point to point communication you can use a super focused antenna and dump all your power into a very small arc

fallow belfry Aug 18, 2021, 2:55 AM

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Yeah true I forgot how common and advanced that tech is getting

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GPS assisted calculations and everything

frank steeple Aug 18, 2021, 2:57 AM

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Don't even need that

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Just point it in the right direction roughly parallel to the ground and for a most part the bounce will spread it out in a line

kind panther Aug 19, 2021, 12:14 PM

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Scammer!

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Yay!

raw beacon Aug 19, 2021, 12:15 PM

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Ew

kind panther Aug 19, 2021, 12:15 PM

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raw beacon Ew

u calling me ew?

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rood

raw beacon Aug 19, 2021, 12:16 PM

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kind panther u calling me ew?

Lol, never! You're cute! 😉

kind panther Aug 19, 2021, 12:16 PM

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raw beacon Lol, never! You're cute! 😉

UR CUTE TOO

raw beacon Aug 19, 2021, 12:19 PM

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kind panther UR CUTE TOO

https://tenor.com/view/no-u-keanu-reeves-got-it-gif-14479787

Tenor

bright shell Aug 20, 2021, 2:23 AM

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I figured out my issue with my Modi + Magni stack.

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The Cable I was using for the Input for the audio, was... somehow not a Data cable.

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It wasn't working on my Windows 10 desktop at first also.

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I feel like a big dumb.

frank steeple Aug 20, 2021, 3:42 AM

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That would tend to do it

mortal totem Aug 20, 2021, 4:29 AM

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I use spdif with modi magni stack, usually doesnt have issues unless sometimes booted in windows

bright shell Aug 20, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I've debated using SPDIF or Optical, but... I don't have an Optical connection on my motherboard.

mortal totem Aug 20, 2021, 5:46 PM

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sad

frank steeple Aug 20, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Probably because optical really isn't great

mortal totem Aug 20, 2021, 6:12 PM

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meanie

fallow belfry Aug 20, 2021, 7:21 PM

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Optical breaks too easy for me, being literally just fiberglass.

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If I were doing an audio setup I'd just use a hdmi to connect to the receiver and have that handle the speakers.

mortal totem Aug 20, 2021, 7:57 PM

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For tv ye i use hdmi

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For pc i have one optical and one usb, because the usb often doesn’t work in windows or linux too well with drivers

bright shell Aug 20, 2021, 9:20 PM

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fallow belfry Optical breaks too easy for me, being literally just fiberglass.

The cheap-o Optical Audio cables aren't even fiberglass, they are just plastic.

lone flame Aug 21, 2021, 6:41 AM

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Okay guys, I got a weird one...
I'm running a surface book 1 with Ubuntu Linux. Running the Surface-Linux kernel. My computer boots fine on battery power, but refuses to boot if on the charger...
I charges fine when off and once its booted up. Just wont start.
any ideas?

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 11:41 AM

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Where in the boot process does it stop working?

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 1:51 PM

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@frank steeple what program and distro would you recommend for sql on linux?

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 1:54 PM

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For the sql server or to interface with it?

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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frank steeple For the sql server or to interface with it?

run it

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intend to VM because I need sql for university and I hate sql on windows

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Do they require any specific server

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If not, I'd just go with MySQL

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:06 PM

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frank steeple Do they require any specific server

no but I would prefer something with a bit of a gui along with cli if possible

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Im using mysql but lack of gui makes it a little less user friendly for a beginner like me

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:21 PM

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For gui, just grab a program called emma

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It'll interface with pretty much whatever server backend that you want

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:22 PM

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frank steeple For gui, just grab a program called emma

works on any linux distro?

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Yup

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I think on windows too

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Oh its just a python script

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well im gonna run a kali linux vm anyway

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i like kali for coding

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:32 PM

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You're a monster

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/elmo-flaming-sesame-street-fire-hell-gif-9446285

Tenor

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:42 PM

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frank steeple You're a monster

yes but why tho?

mortal totem Aug 21, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Monster

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Kali for coding

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https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

Tenor

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:44 PM

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what do ya use for coding then?

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Debian usually

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:53 PM

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frank steeple Debian usually

any specific distro?

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Debian

kind panther Aug 21, 2021, 2:57 PM

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Aight

brave isle Aug 21, 2021, 4:10 PM

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Bob

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I require assistance again

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@frank steeple

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Both of these happen when i try to clone

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image device

frank steeple Aug 21, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Did you say the new drive was sda1?

brave isle Aug 21, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Nvme0n1

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New drive i want to clone to is nvme0n1

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The usb stick with the image is sdc

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My other ssd cloning had no problems but this one is being annoying

mortal totem Aug 21, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Lol bob

brave isle Aug 21, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Idk i’m just restoring everything to how it was previously and using macrium reflect instead

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clonezilla works but it’s really confusing to a normal human being

fallow belfry Aug 21, 2021, 7:16 PM

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brave isle clonezilla works but it’s really confusing to a normal human being

If the new drive is smaller than the old one (even by 1mb) it'll fail like that unless you use the resize mode. Looks like your old one is 512gb and the new is 256gb.

brave isle Aug 21, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Ye, i’m resizing partition rn

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So it will fit even though there was enough space

true void Aug 22, 2021, 12:18 AM

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hi im on the verge of committing an atrocity over wireless adapter drivers

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the only ethernet cable i have is one that got ripped in half by a door and i haven't asked for offline install help because i would probably get laughed out of the room by elitists

sleek halo Aug 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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What

frank steeple Aug 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Do you have WiFi?

true void Aug 22, 2021, 12:28 AM

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No

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thats the issue

sleek halo Aug 22, 2021, 12:29 AM

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The only option is getting it from someone else and putting it on a USB

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Unless you have a DVD drive with the driver DVD

true void Aug 22, 2021, 1:14 AM

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got it i just had to stop being a fool

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downloaded the linux drivers although had 2 change them up a little for mint

bright shell Aug 22, 2021, 1:52 AM

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How do you have a Wireless Adapter that... Isn't just supported by the kernel out of the box?

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I've never had a Wireless Adapter that isn't just supported out of the box.

sleek halo Aug 22, 2021, 1:55 AM

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I had problems with Mint before and WiFi adapters

fallow belfry Aug 22, 2021, 1:55 AM

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Different distro, different hiccups

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Each has a quirk like that

sleek halo Aug 22, 2021, 1:56 AM

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When I first got my B550 just when they came out I tried to use Mint for my main system and the WiFi and LAN would just not work no matter what

frank steeple Aug 22, 2021, 2:08 AM

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bright shell How do you have a Wireless Adapter that... Isn't just supported by the kernel ou...

Very easily. There are hardly any WiFi adapters that are in the kernel. I'm pretty sure most every adapter isn't

bright shell Aug 22, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Every Laptop I've owned has had out of the box wi-fi

frank steeple Aug 22, 2021, 2:10 AM

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That's not the same as being supported by the kernel, that's the distro you use bundling the driver that you need

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WiFi is a huge problem on Linux, especially if you get into the more advanced or DIY distros. You've probably been lucky or have been using something like pop or elementary that bundles the drivers for almost every adapter more than a few years old

bright shell Aug 22, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Even Arch's basic Terminal interface had it.

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And that was for both of my HP laptops.

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Both same era, 2 different chips

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(2.4ghz only on one, 2.4ghz + 5ghz on another)

sleek halo Aug 22, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Those are laptops

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Generally laptops have better support for WiFi

frank steeple Aug 22, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Meh, it's still hit and miss

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The arch installer also tries to include as many WiFi drivers as possible, since you're kinda screwed on arch without any internet. You just have to remember to install them in your chroot

rotund dirge Aug 22, 2021, 3:04 AM

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frank steeple WiFi is a huge problem on Linux, especially if you get into the more advanced or...

I struggle to get Old HP laptops wifi working out of the box.

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Like 10 year old laptops.

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I heard of a distro meant for super old laptops with wifi bundled, but I forgot the name.

fallow belfry Aug 22, 2021, 3:36 AM

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I know that Kali works with my Compaq laptop from 2009. It's worked with all 3 of the wifi modules I have out of the box.

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Oh and the 2 USB ones

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But of course Kali isn't meant to be a daily (or even installed in most cases)

rotund dirge Aug 22, 2021, 3:58 AM

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Kali is meant to be live so I would hope it has as many drivers as possible.

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I mean if you had to run Kali, you could.

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Might as well run linux mint though.

fallow belfry Aug 22, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I know mint also works on that laptop

rotund dirge Aug 22, 2021, 3:59 AM

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It should. Mint does the same thing iirc.

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Ubuntu only does if check off the third party setting.

rotund dirge Aug 22, 2021, 9:51 PM

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DeadChat

frank steeple Aug 22, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Not really

mortal totem Aug 22, 2021, 11:08 PM

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Kali is really only for networking afaik

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Just has preinstalled software and tools

frank steeple Aug 22, 2021, 11:09 PM

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And some other stuff besides networking that will be left unsaid

mortal totem Aug 22, 2021, 11:09 PM

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Mmmm

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 7:54 AM

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elementryos or popos

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Hmmmm

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thoughts?

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 9:06 AM

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I personally like PopOS better.

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Comes with a lot of hotkeys by default in gnome.

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Iirc elementary comes with snap.

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And PopOS doesn’t.

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I don’t like snap.

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But PopOS uses flatpaks.

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They’re pretty similar though, meant for beginner.

sage fractal Aug 23, 2021, 10:09 AM

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Which distro is best for (web/android) dev ? Only tried ubuntu before

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:35 PM

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sage fractal Which distro is best for (web/android) dev ? Only tried ubuntu before

Hm, now that’s a bit of a weird question. Because there is no best distro for any use. You can customize a distro for your needs.

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That being said, do you just want an out of the box everything works kind of thing?

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Any DE you like in particular?

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And lastly, how often do you want to update your programs?

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Did you like Ubuntu?

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:38 PM

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I would use debian

sage fractal Aug 23, 2021, 12:38 PM

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rotund dirge Hm, now that’s a bit of a weird question. Because there is no best distro for an...

maybe I should have rather asked: what distro do people prefer for development. The reason I asked is because I do a lot of web dev and setting up an apache install on windows is a PITA. I have tried it in Ubuntu, and it wasnt the most pleasant experience, especially because for some reason settings got corrupted and totally messed everything up.

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Hm, that sound weird lol.

sage fractal Aug 23, 2021, 12:39 PM

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I was so POd that I went back to Windows and XAMP

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:39 PM

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For development, any non rolling distro with gnome IMO.

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:40 PM

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rotund dirge They’re pretty similar though, meant for beginner.

I was deliberating between the 2 for their ui nit really whether they are beginner or not. ended up going elementary os cause I liked the ui more

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:41 PM

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kind panther I was deliberating between the 2 for their ui nit really whether they are beginn...

Fair enough. That makes sense.

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I like PopOS ui more.

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:42 PM

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sage fractal I was so POd that I went back to Windows and XAMP

But Ubuntu is not bad. If you really want to use something else, PopOS and Linux mint aren’t bad choices.

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:42 PM

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linux mint master race

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:42 PM

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PopOS uses gnome where mint uses cinnamon DE.

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I just have a thing for PopOS atm.

sage fractal Aug 23, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Will give them both a try. Thanks

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:43 PM

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No problem.

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:43 PM

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kind panther linux mint master race

I like NixOS a lot too right now.

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:45 PM

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I have a thing for xfce desktops rn

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:46 PM

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I can never seem to rice XFCE on my own.

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Also ends up ugly looking. Gotta follow some guide to make it look nice.

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:48 PM

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try manjaro xfce

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10/10

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:51 PM

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kind panther try manjaro xfce

I’m already running manjaro xfce at work.

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But I’m iffy with manjaro atm.

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:51 PM

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What did manjaro do to you

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:51 PM

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Rolling releases in general actually.

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:52 PM

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kind panther What did manjaro do to you

Their updates broke my install a few times.

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Like 2-3 times.

kind panther Aug 23, 2021, 12:53 PM

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ouch

rotund dirge Aug 23, 2021, 12:53 PM

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AUR is really nice, but a lot of apps can’t build on minor version of dependencies so you end up with three versions of the same program.

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When it could be built with one.