skill issue tbh
#linux-and-android
sand pecan
Arch is pretty straightforward once you've gotten used to it
think of it as a linux course rather than a os
I've been dailying arch for 3-4 years
fast mango
think of it as a linux course rather than a os
sand pecan
I've learnt more using arch for a couple months than debian for an entire year
however
arch has a pretty steep learning curve
but you learn a lot about linux in general too
I'd recommend installing arch from scratch to anyone interested in linux
but uh
it never works the first couple time
sand pecan
Perhaps vm installation
that still comes with some issues tbh
I'd dual boot it for the first couple installs
it's pretty easy for the first couple times to say
forget to set the locale
near maple
i tried that
it fixed speakers
speakers sounds normal now , but headphones sound better but still distorted , its as if some of the audio is very dim and some is very loud , and media does not play emedietly , it requires me switch output device multiple time before it plays , i tried switching back to pipewire , and speakers still work , and headphones still the same
i've also noticed that , the headphones are on mono , meanwhile the speakers are stereo , and while switching between pipewire and pulse i used the command "pactl info" , and i've noticed its says the sample rate is 48000hz
i think its suposed to be 44100
tried "pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock.force-rate 44100", but it didnt seem to do anything
actually nvm
i dont think the sample rate is related
i think
sand pecan
did you install pulseaudio-alsa?
Might also be a good idea to install pavucontrol to see what's going on
near maple
i didn't , ill try when i switch back to arch
ebon acorn
Will reverting to a previous timeshift snapshot revert these changes entirely and does it modify my home folder at all?
Linux Mint for clarity.
sand pecan
Will reverting to a previous timeshift snapshot revert these changes entirely an...
You can probably just install a previous version of the drivers
Through the linux repos
ebon acorn
My latest system updates prompted me for a secure boot password too which I have written down.
It said something about a key being generated for me. Do I select enroll mok or enroll key from disk?
I don’t fully understand what this is or does, I just gather some stuff needs special permission to install on a secure boot configuration
fallow belfry
Yeah me too
It's an unnecessary pain
Even dual booting Windows, I'll have it on to install Windows and turn it off after
ebon acorn
Even dual booting Windows, I'll have it on to install Windows and turn it off af...
I’d find that a little inconvenient.
I’m reverting to my previous time shift as I think I might have borked up my mok util
More learning
(Sigh)
fallow belfry
Sure it's a minor inconvenience, since it takes a whole 30 seconds to change including boot time
I also leave it off because Windows won't upgrade versions if secure boot is disabled
ebon acorn
Sure it's a minor inconvenience, since it takes a whole 30 seconds to change inc...
I just want to be able to seamlessly transition back and forth without having to edit BIOS settings every time.
fallow belfry
You don't though
You change it once
Windows boots with it off just fine
It just complains when you try to upgrade from 22H2 to 24H2 or something
ebon acorn
I thought you were suggesting you enabled it every time you booted Windows
Do regular Windows security and driver updates for the current version install with secure boot off?
ebon acorn
Which is easy enough to enable for and then disable after…
I’ll take that option under consideration, but I’m also interested in figuring out how to use MOK and such.
small fractal
Sounds silly but what does secure boot even do
fallow belfry
Sounds silly but what does secure boot even do
It prevents unauthorized operating systems from booting.
If configured right you can prevent people from stealing all your data by turning off the PC and booting from a USB drive.
Linux doesn't always play nice and if needed I can do the same thing with other settings like BIOS password at POST
small fractal
Wouldn’t just having the data encrypted solve that issue?
fallow belfry
That solves a different issue but yes that would help
near maple
chat
i tried ubunto from a usb
after i was done
windows now asks for a bitlocker key on boot
i do not have the bitlocker key
what do i do
can i revert the changes made by what ever ubunto did
mortal totem
well asking for a bitlocker key implies that you had bitlocker turned on in windows
sometimes the key can be attached to the microsoft account, depends how it was setup
near maple
sometimes the key can be attached to the microsoft account, depends how it was s...
windows was already setted up before i bought the device
its not on any of my microsoft accounts
what did ubunto do
i didn't even install anything
i just booted from the usb
can't i undo what ubunto did
mortal totem
it's not something that ubuntu did, it's drive encryption that is setup in windows so to prevent someone from taking your drive and being able to access the data on it. if it was setup with a account already there you might have to ask whatever retailer it was
fast mango
its not on any of my microsoft accounts
Dang I think you are cooked then
Well I do remember rebooting the computer at work and it didnt ask again lol
Maybe try that its probably just tripped up
And when you get back in, turn bitlocker off
Its turned pn by default
near maple
it's not something that ubuntu did, it's drive encryption that is setup in windo...
i went to the store and asked , and they said they dont have it
what am confused about is
i just ran ubunto
why did i trip up the thing
i already tried rebooting multipe time , i guess ill have to lost my data
mortal totem
I think when you boot another os windows detects it as a hardware change prompting the password. I guess there is a chance it would go away if you completely remove the ubuntu disks and do a cold boot?
but regardless in the future unless you are holding critical data I wouldn't recommend using those entire disk encryption softwares
near maple
I think when you boot another os windows detects it as a hardware change prompti...
what is a cold boot
i've already removed the ubunto usb stick and tried
mortal totem
complete shutdown and power off before turning back on
near maple
ill try that
mortal totem
the idea is to trigger a post test
near maple
didn't work
fallow belfry
You can try toggling tpm off and on if that doesn't work too
near maple
ill see
near maple
You can try toggling tpm off and on if that doesn't work too
also fail
anything i can do last before reinstalling windows?
also , i keep my windows activation right?
fallow belfry
Theoretically it would automatically reactivate but that works best when it's tied to a microsoft account
You can always contact MS and/or the seller to reactivate too
near maple
the crazy part is
i dont have windows on my pc
its all linux
all arch
😎
i tried installilng an app using yay , and its been spewing walls of texts for minutes
😭
near maple
why does tech hate me
near maple
installed windows finally after hell ,
and i still have arch working
lost all my data , and still couldn't fix the audio issue
but at least i found out that
on ubunto the same issue persists
its not just arch
fast mango
Me who installed nobara and endeavor and had 0 issues whatsoever
I still have not done arch yet
near maple
arch is not for beginers
i hate ubunto
it ruined everything for me
arch didn't do any harm
sand pecan
what
near maple
it tried it's best
near maple
what
trying ubunto is what triped up my bitlocker
make my data inaccessible
can i remove this stupid incryption
sand pecan
That sounds like a windows problem
near maple
i installed windows\
but it had no internet drivers ,so am currently installing the drivers from linux
sand pecan
Windows, especially windows 11, does not like sharing the system with another os
near maple
can i remove bitlocker
i installed it , and it never gave me a password
i didn't even connect a microsoft account
use*
i think am talking too much about windows here
its linux chat
near maple
anyway , the audio problem i mentioned earlier , its in both ubunto and arch
sand pecan
ughhhh
near maple
this thing is haunting me
its the one thing holding me from using arch for anything else
near maple
the headphones are distorted meanwhile speakers work fine
wait i can try the stupid sound card dongle that came with my headphones
it might do something
what
i fixed it
some how
i didnt even try the dongle i just readjusted the headphones
WHY DIDNT WINDOWS DISTORT THEN AM SOO CONFUSED
sand pecan
i didnt even try the dongle i just readjusted the headphones
huh
Fascinating
There are shenanigans at play here
fast mango
When you download something via terminal or package manager, where does it go
fallow belfry
Depends on the package manager
terminal will download to the current working folder
package managers have their own staging folders
fast mango
fallow belfry
If you're worried about old packages taking up space there's commands to clean up ones you don't need
fast mango
So when you download something windows related, wine will pull up its windows directory so those programs can operate normally
But is uninstalling affected by this?
Because revo came in clutch on windows
Or I guess I could just search for the files and delete them
fallow belfry
Wine isn't full emulation of Windows. It behaves differently when installing and uninstalling.
In other words, wine tracks exactly what gets added by what installer to the registry and file system and that makes it easier to delete.
Windows relies on the registry for that, which in turn relies on the installer programmers following standard practices
fast mango
In other words, wine tracks exactly what gets added by what installer to the reg...
Ah ok
Shouldnt be bad then at all
fallow belfry
And fun fact, WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator
sand pecan
not sure how it works on fedora but
here's how I remove package in arch
To remove a single package:
Pacman -R
To remove a package and dependencies:
Pacman -Rns
To remove package manager cache:
Pacman -Sc
there should be something similar on fedora
package managers are really powerful
found it for fedora
To remove a single package:
dnf remove
To remove a package and dependencies:
dnf autoremove
To remove package manager cache:
sudo dnf clean all
fast mango
To remove a single package:
dnf remove
To remove a package and dependencies:
dnf...
Honestly just dnf remove will remove dependencies too
But nobara has its own package manager where you can look up things like an app store and when you click the check, it downloads and when you uncheck, it removes everything
Pretty cool
It also has a flathub section where you can search for those too
So I use a combination of that and terminal
fast mango
For some reason I see my used disk space drop more and more
Maybe the caching updates deep rock keeps doing is freeing up space
Still though, not sure how it dropped so much a few days ago
I swear I saw it say like 260 and it went down to like 230
And now I even have 2 more gigs of free space
sand pecan
Hmm
bold pumice
(copied from general) okay so I made an .sh file for ubuntu (it's on desktop presently) to try to run ycruncher without having to do a bunch of commands in terminal this is what it says:
cd Downloads
cd 'y-cruncher v0.8.6.9545-static'
sudo ./y-cruncher
those are the commands I run in terminal to start ycroncher but it refuses to do anything lol is there a way to make this actually go to terminal & start ycroncher?
also, is there anything to see memory timings in Linux? I have CPU-X but it's eh
small fractal
chmod +x
forest latch
(copied from general) okay so I made an .sh file for ubuntu (it's on desktop pre...
also you can go directly into the ycruncher folder
i would probably do like
cd '~/Downloads/y-cruncher v*'
sudo ./y-cruncher```
(if it doesnt need root perms, then you won't need to add the sudo)I think it does need permissions but I will try this when I get home
bold pumice
okay I've tried like 5 things & they all suck. Is there any good way to see RAM timings?
forest latch
I try to double click or run as program
oh yeah i forgot, you also need the shebang line
add #!/bin/bash to the very first line of the file
linux doesnt use file extensions for determining what program to use; it uses the shebang line
fast mango
Hmm
Im rarted its because it was showing total system storage and I had an external drive plugged in when I checked
fast mango
oh yeah i forgot, you also need the shebang line
add `#!/bin/bash` to the very f...
Very true
I can run my mc server with a simple double click
bold pumice
oh yeah i forgot, you also need the shebang line
add `#!/bin/bash` to the very f...
lol trying this now
forest latch
idek why it's called shebang lmao
fallow belfry
I always think of that song when I hear "shebang" too lol
bold pumice
I always think of that song when I hear "shebang" too lol
it's a terrible thing really lmao
does Linux have screen snip? lol
or paint
heck I'm so dumb at this
GIMP right right
still borked lol ah well
my guess is it has something to do with the shebang not turning different colors like the sudo & the cd did
which also happens to be one of the strangest sentences I've ever written
sand pecan
The ycruncher script just runs another script
Did you also chmod the .sh script to add execute permissions?
bold pumice
Did you also chmod the .sh script to add execute permissions?
probably not since I don't quite, uh, know what that means lol
sand pecan
probably not since I don't quite, uh, know what that means lol
Basically it changes the permission to the file
bold pumice
ah okay I will investigate this
sand pecan
chmod +x [file path]
Should add execute permissions on the file
bold pumice
okay let me attempt this hold on one second
heck neither launch or do anything still
bold pumice
well I just realized I did an even bigger heckup
the 450gb partition was supposed to be like the main one I use... ig that would be where /home is but instead /home is on the little 42gb partition lol
ig I could move /home to the / partition somehow then just delete teh 42gb partition & extend the 450gb one?
heck I should just reinstall but dammit lol
dusk kernel
idek why it's called shebang lmao
(I haven't researched this so I could be wrong.)
#️⃣ = "hash"
❗ = "bang"
"shebang" is just a shortening of "hash bang"
forest latch
that would make sense
well, i knew that the ! was bang, but idk how they got # to be "she"
though it being like "hash(e)" is a good theory
dusk kernel
ProTip - Don't bother trying to make sense of the English language. It's all madness and chaos. LOL
forest latch
lmao
mortal totem
Isnt that more of a slang?
fallow belfry
TIL pound-bang
bold pumice
you've never heard someone say like, "the whole shabang" or something like that? ig it's probably in the wiki article above
In any event, I can't believe I made my stupid /home partition a mere 42gb while the system partition is 415gb & can't be written to lol
sorry I mean the "root" partition
am I getting the nomenclature correct at all here? I'm trying I swear lol
apparently I could copy /home partition to the root partition but I'd have to use liveusb thing like I'm about to install ubuntu
sand pecan
Yeah it's flexible with linux
bold pumice
damn I take it back
sand pecan
You can also shrink the system partition and extend tbe bome
bold pumice
GIMP is way better than ScreenSnip for screenshots
but as soon as you wanna draw some nonsense on it (a favorite passtime of mine), nothing
sand pecan
GIMP can take screenshots?
bold pumice
ya it's pretty heckin cool I press prtscrn or whatever
bold pumice
can't draw no
sand pecan
That's weird given the whole schtick of gimp
bold pumice
there's probably some plugin thing
well actually
it opens in imageviewer if I click on the notification at the top
sand pecan
What if you get it to open gimp instead
bold pumice
so maybe I can set it to open in GIMP by default
sand pecan
aha
bold pumice
ya now I can write on it & what not
not sure it'll open there by default tho... gotta find the heckin file & go to properties in whatever we're calling fileexplorer
sand pecan
If gimp's taking the screenshots
It might be configurable in the gimp settings
At least that would make sense
sand pecan
You can also shrink the root partition
Then extend the home
I like to have a separate home partition
So I could reinstall with ease
fallow belfry
Gimp is also so much more powerful than paint
dusk kernel
The world is falling apart, but it's been a decent day for me. I got 2 new pairs of Pumas (Puma is a brand of shoes, aka kicks, but I'm too old to use that term LOL) ... AND I saved a decent little system from the recycling pile at work. It's the little things, right? LOL
ASRock B365M Pro4 with an Intel® Core™ i5-9400F @ 2.90GHz
https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/b365m pro4/index.asp
16GB RAM (G Skill - 2133 MT/s)
Random little GPU card
Rosewill 600W PSU
Rosewill case
This will be useful, but I don't know what I'll use it for yet.
fallow belfry
Pihole?
dusk kernel
I have a few actual Pi's I could use for that.
I have a bunch of DVD's I've been planning to rip, so I could attach a few DVD drives and use the new box instead either of the other two boxes I have. That would keep them safe from whatever random bone-headed thing I might do while doing the DVD ripping. 😆
Maybe save backups to it? My "backup plan" is non-existent so I do need to work on that.
fallow belfry
Plex box would have been my second suggestion
dusk kernel
I rarely actually watch movies. LOL The pile of DVD's is random stuff left in the attic by a previous tenant. 😆 But yeah, I could at least try Plex so I have a clue what it's all about.
I see this in the manual, so maybe some NAS and backup functionality would be good.
Storage • 6 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s Connectors, support RAID (RAID 0,
RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 10, Intel Rapid Storage Technology
17), NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug*
crisp pivot
Is there a linux that can run chrome?
mortal totem
There should be an official installer for linux. Most linux distros come preinstalled with firefox but that doesn’t mean you can’t install other browsers
sand pecan
Most linux distros can run chrome
ebon acorn
I'm running Linux Mint 21.3. I have been having some graphical issues I've brought up before here. Screen tearing and the inability to adjust refresh rate or resolution in the display manager. Most attempts to update or change drivers have so far been fruitless in getting results.
I just realized I am currently running kernel 5.15.0-134 while the latest one is apparently 6.8.0-52.
Is it possible that a kernel update would solve some of my issues and is it advisable to attempt it?
ebon acorn
I don't remember when exactly I made my LM 21.3 images, but I could have sworn they were the latest version at the time. Apparently LM 22 is already out, but I'm not sure for how long or how much of a difference that would make.
fallow belfry
Yes it's quite possible that a kernel update can help. There's no reason not to try since you can always load the old kernel again during boot if there's problems.
dusk kernel
Looks like I won't be adding any drives to the "new" system yet. It's a semi-modular PSU and won't power on with anything plugged into a modular port, even if it's only a SSD.
dusk kernel
Oh duh.... PEBKAC... LOL The lesson has been learned without breaking anything.
dusk kernel
dammit.... now I can't find the [any] key!
I'm pretty surprised that I managed to get the wrong connector pushed into the damn thing. Luckily I found the PSU on Newegg to confirm the port configuration...
https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-glacier-series-glacier-600m-600w/p/N82E16817182340R
So I can use that box with only the 2 m.2 drives, and would need to buy another 1... or buy a power supply and add other drives. Oh well... back to pondering. :-D
fallow belfry
Luckily it sounds like the short circuit protection worked flawlessly
dusk kernel
Luckily it sounds like the short circuit protection worked flawlessly
Not sure about "perfectly" but it didn't release the magic smoke and booted several more times.
near maple
how does picture in picture work in hyper land?
near maple
how does picture in picture work in hyper land?
can i get floating windows for the video , or that doesnt work
dusk kernel
2 PSU swaps later... the "salvaged" system is up and running, and I can add drives to it for whatever random use I come up with. First project will probably be to attach 4 DVD drives and rip the pile of DVD's using 4 instances of Handbrake. LOL
dusk kernel
can i get floating windows for the video , or that doesnt work
hyprland can do floating windows. Their wiki has lots of info. I'd start here...
https://wiki.hyprland.org/Configuring/Window-Rules/
sand pecan
hyprland can do floating windows. Their wiki has lots of info. I'd start here......
Based hyprland user?
sand pecan
can i get floating windows for the video , or that doesnt work
Could be a config issue
I haven't touched anything in my hyprland.conf
near maple
Could be a config issue
ill go read the wiki
cuz picture in picture videos just tile them selves up
they don't float
sand pecan
ill go read the wiki
You can probably toggle float
There should be a hotkey
I do have a keybind to toggle floating in my hyprland.conf
You might want to check your hyprland.conf to see what your keybind is
Mine is probably rebinded
near maple
i tried it
the window's ratio isn't correct kinda looks stupid
but ill go read the wiki and figure something out
sand pecan
Hmm so it's not auto scaling
I don't use picture in picture much so I usually manually rescale the windows
But there should be a way to auto scale it
Perhaps with a windowrule?
near maple
oh i tried
sand pecan
Hmm
sand pecan
Interesting
sand pecan
Oh I didn't know you could do that lmao
I usually use the keyboard to scale
Thanks for the tip
near maple
np
sand pecan
But yeah good luck with your hyprland config
dusk kernel
Based hyprland user?
Who, me? 😁 Naahhh... I have hyprland installed on one of my devices but have only barely used it. I just know there's a lot of info on their wiki.
I am most interested in using hyprland on my audio system. But I would need to figure out how to set it up to put apps into specific tiles when they're opened by another app. Basically, I open 1 app, Raysession, choose a "studio," then Raysession opens 6-8 other applications. Right now I have them all going where I want by using kwin rules. Settingj that up was tedious AF. Some day I'll tinker with hyprland again.
sand pecan
can i safely clear this folder
Are you trying to clear cache?
You can probably just Pacman -Sc
near maple
Are you trying to clear cache?
empty space
near maple
3 days configuring my hyprland
all that time was spent figuring out how to make stuff transparent
sand pecan
3 days configuring my hyprland
Ahahahha same
They make it so convenient tho
I have my browser windows transparent unless it's on youtube.com or in full screen mode
Windowrules 🙏🏻
fast mango
Not sure what the issue is but minecraft keeps crashing my desktop environment
It runs so well but will freeze and crash the desktop at random times
sand pecan
It runs so well but will freeze and crash the desktop at random times
Java version?
fast mango
Java version?
Yeah
I tried looking this stuff up and found nothing
Even on google because I don’t use google all the time
But sometimes you gotta use google for something specific and even it returned nothing
Tried older kernel versions and still
Oh you know what
I forgot about how prism launcher has some launch conditions but im not optimistic that will fix it
fast mango
Well prism automatically installs the required runtime depending on the version you pick
fast mango
That shouldn't be the issue then
Yeah its weird
I think its driver related
Because its kinda like adrenalin timeouts but can be a little worse sometimes
Depends on how quickly I kill the task after it freezes 
Like last night it was really bad
Screen was going black and showing a static image and artifacting for a couple minutes
Kept trying to reset itself and recover but kept going black and artifacting
And this was before the gpu swap too
sand pecan
How am I somehow stable on arch
near maple
i've spent soo much time designing my waybar
but its 100% worth it
it feels good knowing you made it by your hands
if fortnite worked on linux , i would never use windows again
sand pecan
i've spent soo much time designing my waybar
Real
This is what I love about arch
once you've got it setup the way you want it
it's perfect (except when stuff don't run)
near maple
yea
sand pecan
I love how waybar uses css too
no need to dig through pages of documentation because there's already a lot of good css resources out there
linux in general is pretty good at making things really easy to configure
proven mirage
it's perfect (except when stuff don't run)
Is there a way to save your setup to get it back easily for when your os breaks and you have to reinstall?
I'm asking because I constantly break my Ubuntu install and am tired of redoing everything
mortal totem
You could try an immutable system
proven mirage
You could try an immutable system
I have but they piss me off
proven mirage
also how tf you keep breaking ubuntu
I haven't broken anything in a while so I forget, but I genuinely have no clue
I know one time was when I tried updating from 22.4 to 24.4 early
I think the others were where I did something that broke the de and didn't know how to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package
forest latch
oh
sand pecan
Is there a way to save your setup to get it back easily for when your os breaks ...
I separate my / and /home folder into different partitons
And I export the list of packages I have installed
So if it breaks I can reinstall it pretty easily
proven mirage
Thanks
forest latch
i dont think i've managed to break linux enough to need a reinstall outside of when i do it intentionally like with rm -rf /
sand pecan
Sometimes with rolling releases they can just destroy themselves
fast mango
Well kernel update is here so lets see if that solves my problem
fast mango
Its finally out
https://www.howtogeek.com/linux-kernel-6-14-released/
Its over for windows
However today the update was 6.13.8
I don’t mind waiting a lil longer its all good
fast mango
Uhh goofy mistake 
https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/25/linux_6_14_day_late/
fast mango
unkempt light
Its over for windows
I kinda wish apex didn’t ban Linux
fallow belfry
I kinda wish apex didn’t ban Linux
It's not Apex so much as the anti cheat they use
fallow belfry
They just drank the Kool Aid that the anti cheat gave them
fast mango
sand pecan
Imagine if linux actually got better software compatibility
If you can run photoshop or ms office on linux
It'll be joever for windows
fast mango
If you can run photoshop or ms office on linux
Ok so theres a bit to it but you can get photoshop to work
You install it on a fresh windows vm and copy all of its files over
smoky fable
They cut off linux and said it got rid of cheaters
because Linux didn't fully support EasyAntiCheat and a disproportionate amount of cheaters were on linux.
or actually it might have been that Linux was also enabling cheat devs to bypass the AC easier
https://x.com/PlayApex/article/1852019667315102151
Linux cheats are indeed harder to detect and the data shows that they are growing at a rate that requires an outsized level of focus and attention from the team for a relatively small platform. There are also cases in which cheats for the Windows OS get emulated as if it’s on Linux in order to increase the difficulty of detection and prevention.
X
fast mango
And its probably gonna stay like this too
Block it and dont code for it in the future
So I did remember wrong
And yeah it doesnt help that linux people are autistic 
they do literally share code and make forks of cheats and stuff
Open source cheats
sand pecan
Ok so theres a bit to it but you can get photoshop to work
Yeah but still it's annoying
If you have to go through janky steps to get it to work
Then it's not really user friendly to the average computer user
unkempt light
It's not Apex so much as the anti cheat they use
No
unkempt light
They just drank the Kool Aid that the anti cheat gave them
Oh
sand pecan
Big thing that needs to happen is affinity photo supporting linuc
Real
I've been trying to get that thing to work for ages
I got uh
The splash screen working
Still wouldn't launch but it's something
fast mango
I got uh
Yeah its worse than photoshop lol
Someone on wine forum and reddit has a way to get it working or something but its super convoluted
Makes getting ps working look like its running native
fast mango
I tried installing cachyos a couple times and got an error that was something like "external command finished with error. command mkinitcpio finished with exit code 1"
Something like that
And its at the end of the installation too
I will try a different file system and see if that did anything
Oh maybe it is because I chose systemd instead of grub? Even though grub was highlighted I still picked systemd because the window showed systemd was the default
quick ermine
because Linux didn't fully support EasyAntiCheat and a disproportionate amount o...
Kernel-level anticheat doesn't even work lmfaoooo
Ricochet is kernel level and yet COD is full of blatant cheaters that never get banned despite unanimous reports
smoky fable
Kernel-level anticheat doesn't even work lmfaoooo
Read the other messages/the blog post. It's more about Linux offering cheat devs and cheaters easier ways to cheat and less about EAC
quick ermine
Read the other messages/the blog post. It's more about Linux offering cheat devs...
I'm talking on Windows
like
Kernel-level AC sucks baboon butt AND it's a huge security vulnerability
wild sigil
Read the other messages/the blog post. It's more about Linux offering cheat devs...
Not that it's even a valid excuse...
Cheats are often compiled on windows
So ban windows too
Its just an extra vector for hackers, same as Linux
They don't even explain how Linux supposedly offers easier ways to cheat in game
forest latch
literally the only defense i see people make for why they would prevent players from running on linux is because "more linux users know how to cheat in games"
which is honestly a stupid argument
fast mango
Maybe relative to how many people on linux play the game, there would be a lot of cheaters
So let’s say 1.8% of people play your game on linux but a larger relative percentage are cheaters. Maybe 30% or something, but that’s really low overall
Who knows really
I don’t
Just theoretical
fast mango
I tried installing cachyos a couple times and got an error that was something li...
Ok so it failed again
Command <i>mkinitcpio</i> finished with exit code 1.
Output:
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux-cachyos.preset: 'default'
==> Using default configuration file: '/etc/mkinitcpio.conf'
-> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux-cachyos -g /boot/initramfs-linux-cachyos.img
od: cannot skip past end of combined input
==> ERROR: invalid kernel specified: '/boot/vmlinuz-linux-cachyos'
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux-cachyos.preset: 'fallback'
==> Using default configuration file: '/etc/mkinitcpio.conf'
-> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux-cachyos -g /boot/initramfs-linux-cachyos-fallback.img -S autodetect
od: cannot skip past end of combined input
==> ERROR: invalid kernel specified: '/boot/vmlinuz-linux-cachyos'
Invalid kernel specified
So I guess its looking in the wrong spot to download it or something or has the wrong pointer
Ok so these posts are saying its a boot partition issue
I guess I need to manually create the partition
fast mango
Ok manually creating the partitions solved this issue
sand pecan
Installing flatpak just so I don't have kde bloat packages
fast mango
Jank
It was a simple fix but still goofy that the replace partition option didnt just work
Cachyos goes hard ngl bruh
sand pecan
Yeah its the closest you can get to ms office
I installed it because libreoffice's powerpoint program is pretty crap
What's cachyos
fast mango
Arch based distro that is apparently pretty fast and easy to use
fast mango
Its actually kinda like nobara
fast mango
Aren't they all fast
Yeah lol thats just what they say
fast mango
I think what they are trying to do is have a super friendly distro like nobara but not be "bloated"
fast mango
When I installed it took up like 8.9 gb which is kinda crazy really
fast mango
What DE does it come with
You can choose like 15 options or something idk
Its a long list
sand pecan
Oh nice
fast mango
I just picked kde but there were some other ones that caught my eye
Its just what I am familiar with
sand pecan
Yeah
You'll probably enjoy arch and its packages
Installing packages is so much easier
Does it come with an AUR helper by default?
fast mango
You'll probably enjoy arch and its packages
It has its own package manager like nobara
fast mango
Yeah its just a gui manager
fast mango
It also comes with its own firefox fork that is hardened and has ublock preinstalled
fast mango
Does it have AUR?
Not sure yet
sand pecan
Might unironically be the most user friendly distro
Click all packages
Does it have a dropdown that shows all the repos
sand pecan
It showed in the screenshot
fast mango
fast mango
It showed in the screenshot
sand pecan
I'd be interested to see how they develop this
Seems like a pretty user friendly and customisable distro
fast mango
Oh dude this already has 6.14
Lets see if my performance improves
Cachy having some weird small bugs
Probably because new kernel
fast mango
Honestly man
I think im quitting linux
Im not in the mood to keep trying to fix things for the time being
Got some other stuff going on
It would be nice if plasma would actually gather the crash data instead of just sitting there forever
This past month has been really bad and this is just another thing on the table that just keeps trying to irritate me
There has to be a way to find logs for these catastrophic crashes
mortal totem
Weakling
fast mango
I'll keep trying I was just pissed today
I thought it was just a minecraft issue but this happened on another game, so now its really a problem
What's weird is that this issue was fixed for a bit after I downloaded 6.13.8 and then it happened again last night
Bro thought he could rest easy
fast mango
Alr i have a plan for this
fast mango
Fails to gather info every time
Well at least I logged what happened with journalctl
So thats a start
i WILL fix this and i WILL be happy
fast mango
Lets see if my performance improves
So about that
Steam wouldn’t launch the game and the steam window just closes every once in a while
I think thats a rolling release thing
Buggy ass
sand pecan
There has to be a way to find logs for these catastrophic crashes
Journalctl
Oh
Bro figured it out
sand pecan
Buggy ass <:pieskull:1278810686289477683> <:pieskull:1278810686289477683>
This is why I use my own minimalistic install
The less packages I have the less like it is to kill itself
fast mango
The less packages I have the less like it is to kill itself
I have no desktop environment while reporting this crash hahaha
Everything is black
Crashed so hard that the crash handler crashed trying to automatically retrieve crash data
fast mango
Ok so DE went black again after restarting
What is this bro
Yeah i literally cant do anything
Goes black for a quarter second, desktop environment comes back after a couple seconds, goes black again and stays black even after installing mesa git drivers
Im not even mad im just tired
This has been a thing for a couple weeks
yea idk what to do anymore besides make another log or something
idk
fallow belfry
This is why I don't update 
I think my kernel is still on 5.12
I also keep /home on a secondary partition so if I did want to upgrade I just have to install over / and I don't lose anything
fast mango
This is why I don't update <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Idk man I think its something i installed because it just started happening some time ago
Even when rolling back it still happens I just dont get it
Just sucks because I really do like linux
Besides this weird crashing thing minecraft set off it was pretty good for the most part. Sometimes its even better than windows really
fast mango
Goes black for a quarter second, desktop environment comes back after a couple s...
I guess my desktop environment is corrupt or something because of this
fast mango
Well good thing I installed cachy a couple days ago
sand pecan
Cachy nuts
fast mango
Cachy nuts
I wonder if I can reinstall my desktop environment or something
Looks like its pretty straightforward
Because when I was installing cachy it showed all list of packages to download, with kde checked and all the other ones unchecked
Which made me think that its pretty straightforward to change
Ok i will do this tomorrow and see what happens
sand pecan
I wonder if I can reinstall my desktop environment or something
Yeah just reinstall the package
fast mango
fast mango
Yeah just reinstall the package
Do I have to delete everything kde or will it be overwritten
Everything I am seeing is for switching to kde from something else or its people reinstalling on different distros and the steps are varying a little bit
sand pecan
Do I have to delete everything kde or will it be overwritten
It would be ideal
fast mango
It would be ideal
Looks like I have to log out for that
Cant delete anything while logged in because the de is running
sand pecan
Yes
Although
You could break your entire os
I'd just reinstall the plasma package instead
Or whatever kde package your distro is using
fast mango
Or whatever kde package your distro is using
So should I just hit it with the sudo dnf install kde-plasma-desktop
fast mango
Nobara rn
sand pecan
yeah
fast mango
I guess its gonna overwrite everything right
sand pecan
It's going to reinstall the package
fast mango
Alr we ball lets see
fast mango
It's going to reinstall the package
Ok so it did what I thought it would
It failed because everything is already installed
fast mango
So I gotta find out what to delete
sand pecan
Or maybe it's a fedora thing
fast mango
Ok so I wonder if I can log out and do sudo dnf group remove kde-desktop-environment
And then do sudo dnf group install kde-desktop-environment
fast mango
The linux autism continues
fast mango
It's a massive net of dependencies
Nobara wiki has a guide and shows removing bloat
sand pecan
Lmao I just use Hyprland
fast mango
But its a guide for people switching from gnome to kde
sand pecan
From the ground up no bloat
fast mango
Not reinstalling but it should be the same thing for bloat
sand pecan
Requires a special level of autism
fast mango
sand pecan
Spent an entire day just on the stupid waybar
Tiling WM users are a different type of autistic
fast mango
Or maybe it's a fedora thing
Unrelated but yeah dnf transaction will fail because whatever package is already installed
fast mango
Tiling WM users are a different type of autistic
It wont completely uninstall kde
It says it’s uninstalled but when I reinstall it the confirmation shows a 0 byte download
And when I log in my de is completely unchanged and still goes comepletely black after 15 seconds
So I guess i go on cachy, mount this boot partition, move everything and reinstall nobara
dusk kernel
Are you using the command line to reinstall? And do you have dnf?
fast mango
Yeah
dusk kernel
$ man dnf
dnf has a "reinstall" option
fast mango
When I do reinstall it says there is no argument for it
fallow belfry
It says it’s uninstalled but when I reinstall it the confirmation shows a 0 byte...
The installer is still cached, if you wanted there's a couple cleaning commands you can use
dusk kernel
You should be using something like...
$ sudo dnf reinstall [package names]
fast mango
You should be using something like...
$ sudo dnf reinstall [package names]
Ik
Doesn’t work for kde
fast mango
https://dnf.readthedocs.io/en/latest/command_ref.html#clean-command-label
Nothing worked so its reinstall time
Or i mean it worked but the kde thing is still unchanged
dusk kernel
I've forgotten why you need to reinstall and I'm too pissed off about my damn job to focus... but... yeah, sometimes it's simpler and faster overall to just reinstall everything. That's why I've always kept a separate /home partition
fast mango
Hold on
What if I install gnome
Maybe then ill be able to remove kde properly or something idk
fast mango
I've forgotten why you need to reinstall and I'm too pissed off about my damn jo...
Kde kept crashing when playing minecraft so I thought it was a Minecraft issue until it happened on a different game
Then game to realize it was an issue that Minecraft was triggering rather than a minecraft issue
And after it crashed super hard yesterday to the point where the crash handler crashed and the entire desktop environment went black, I rebooted and now the desktop will go black for a half second, reload, do it again, and after a few seconds then stay black forever
I can still use the computer but there is no desktop environment
Which is why I wanted to reinstall but it is clearly not working
dusk kernel
Ooohh... OK, I kinda remember that now. 😁 Have you considered it might be a video driver issue?
fast mango
Installing mesa git drivers did nothing so I think it really is kde
sand pecan
I've forgotten why you need to reinstall and I'm too pissed off about my damn jo...
Unironically the best trick
I can just yeet my system at a moment's notice
And reinstall all packages from a list
fast mango
Flatpak wont install on cachyos for some reason
dusk kernel
I love it when security codes are fun sequences of numbers... I just got "505050."
fast mango
Alr so I backed up all home folders
Not really sure what else i am missing
I think thats it
Nice to have everything in one folder
sand pecan
Last time I just left the whole partition
And bind mounted the /home from the new install
fast mango
Maybe I should do that idk
But you know whats crazy
I unplugged my vertical second monitor because for some reason linux thinks its the main monitor when installing, but I forgot what my corectrl was set at so I went back into nobara to see what it was
Screen didnt go black once
Wtf
Well I uninstalled about 170mb of kde packages so Im not sure this is recoverable
Ok hold on lets see if the de goes black with the second monitor ima plug it in again
oh my god…
The second monitor was causing this
Bro…
But I dont remember what command I used earlier today that wiped out a bunch of stuff
fast mango
I thought secondary monitor stuff was solved a long time ago man
Cant believe it
Ok I have my mc server up and lets see if my desktop environment crashes when the second monitor is plugged in
fast mango
Well I uninstalled about 170mb of kde packages so Im not sure this is recoverabl...
Alright hold on
What if I wait until fedora 42 comes out
Im coping so hard rn
mortal totem
Fedora can be pretty unstable from what i heard
valid python
okay so, as much as I am reluctant on doing it, I honestly still kinda want to experience linux through the madness of arch
but first i have to pick between gnome and KDE Plasma
this guy's video pretty much just influenced me to pick KDE Plasma but I would like some input from other users of either desktop environment
it has a lot of customization too from what i've seen (Bog's vid)
and no I have not yet seen what Gnome has to offer
wild sigil
KDE is pretty windows like
fast mango
this guy's video pretty much just influenced me to pick KDE Plasma but I would l...
Gnome is cool but it felt like i was using a phone or tablet
fast mango
Fedora can be pretty unstable from what i heard
I think it was my monitor doing all of this bruh
fast mango
KDE is pretty windows like
valid python
Gnome is cool but it felt like i was using a phone or tablet
thanks
valid python
Its very familiar and easy to pick up
perfect then, the windows thing microsoft has is great. it's just the microsoft part i don't like
totally customizable as well
fast mango
dusk kernel
The great thing is.... you can install both KDE and Gnome, then choose which one you want to use each time you login. Then when you choose a favorite, you can uninstall the bulk of the one you don't prefer.
valid python
The great thing is.... you can install both KDE and Gnome, then choose which one...
this is incredible
fool proof way to decide on something of course but i'd've already used a real good amount of time doing that for 2 browsers lol
dusk kernel
Yeah, trying out the options can become quite a deep time pit. 😆
fallow belfry
The down side of so many options and customizations
sand pecan
I don't currently use either
But in my experience KDE plasma offered better customisation and features
fallow belfry
I'm looking forward to trying Steam OS on desktop
Should be interesting to say the least
fast mango
Keep trying to install my distro again and get hit with rsync error
Exit code 11
But nothing is full and I reformatted my drive with the iso
And the drive i am writing to has a lot of space
It cant mount the ventoy for some reason
I don’t understand
Oh thats right
Its hitting me with the cant load blockdev
And you know whats weird
My thumb drive isnt being read by my bios
Doomed to use windows forever
I wonder if grub is messing something up
fast mango
Ok so I guess this is some kind of april fools joke or something because even on this other drive i get the same error
fast mango
My thumb drive isnt being read by my bios
Because it has to be in the port a certain way to work
sand pecan
Grub meme strikes again
fast mango
I went back to windows, did diskpart and mounted the efi partition, then deleted fedora
NOOOOOO
sand pecan
Did you jinx it
fast mango
IT WAS FINISHING UP MAN
sand pecan
What is this jank
Idea:
Make a new efi partition
Perhaps MS doesn't like sharing efis
fast mango
Maybe I should have deleted that linux folder along with fedora
But the guide never mentioned it
So I didn’t touch jt
fast mango
Make a new efi partition
How would I make it use that though
Wouldn’t it go to the one with windows
Im gonna try reinstalling again
sand pecan
You can select it in bios
sand pecan
How would I make it use that though
Make a fat32 partitions and select that as the /boot in the installer
sand pecan
Yes
fast mango
Wait I did that earlier today before I did that whole efi thing and it didn’t work. But this is something different so ill still try
sand pecan
I don't think it's necessary you should do it anyways
fast mango
Alr
HAHAHAHAHA
THE AUTISM CONTINUES
But its weird
This is my third install
When I installed the second time there was no problem
Strange
Great grub is still here. I just removed the fedora from it
Wow so they were right about grub
Oh I know why thats there
So this failed install is what it booted to
From earlier
I accidentally deleted it
So I have to go to diskpart again on windows and delete that
Fellas dont use grub the worst mistake of my life
I have two fedora boot options
sand pecan
Boot manager jank?
This is why I just do manual
So different oses don't mess with my grub config
fast mango
I swapped the two and still
fast mango
Do you want me to go to live again
fast mango
Yeah I don’t think im going to the gym tonight
sand pecan
That's what my efi looks like
sand pecan
Show efi
fast mango
Its booting up
sand pecan
You probably want to delete the initramfs images and grub folder
And probably anything linux
sand pecan
yeah you wanna delete the grub folder
And all the initramfs
Delete everything except efi and loader
Not sure what loader is
So I wouldn't touch it
fast mango
Only the jobless can sit there for hours and hours being autistic like this
But really though I learned a lot switching over
Windows hides so much from you man its nuts
dusk kernel
money don't grow on trees
I love that song. 😁
For anyone who has never played Borderlands...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKtsdZs9LJo
sand pecan
I take that 99% of regulars in #linux-and-android are also single
dusk kernel
I take that 99% of regulars in <#796889072110796820> are also single
I'm a Gemini so I'll never be truly single 'cause I'm a twin. har har
fast mango
I think thats the best one yet
near maple
why are there soo many ways to install applications on linux can they make a standard or something 😭
.deb appimages
pkgs
any ideas on how to install .debs on arch
fallow belfry
any ideas on how to install .debs on arch
.deb is compiled for Debian
near maple
what......
forest latch
Only 0.1 petabytes
fallow belfry
The good news is that's probably just a recursive loop of soft links and the physical size will be much smaller
It will probably throw an error at some point
sand pecan
why are there soo many ways to install applications on linux can they make a sta...
It is (mostly) standard if you use the package manager
fast mango
I think thats the best one yet
We are so back
When 3% of the world uses your operating system
fast mango
I think nobara broke after that last update
Was doing just fine before it
Then I reinstalled so no fallback
fallow belfry
This is why I never update unless I need a new feature 
Kernel 5.12 for life (or until I upgrade from a 750 ti to Arc)
fast mango
The minecraft crash happened on cachy as well
So no Minecraft on linux then
Despite it running better
I wonder if a different desktop environment would do something
near maple
on linux , lighter games such as geometry dash and osu get a huge performance jump
for osu about 250 to 500 , and for geometry dash its from 500 to the 999 fps cap
could this be related to my optimus laptop setup?
cuz i remembe similar gains on geometry dash , when i tried connecting to a tv
fallow belfry
That's possible, if your laptop doesn't have a mux switch
Linux can just, not need one
sand pecan
I use prime-run to run games with my dgpu
iirc gamemoderun has a bunch of optimisations
near maple
chat, i've made a new arch install on my primary ssd , and i want to transfer everything over , what would be the most optimal way
i wanted to move the cp command to copy the folders on root ,but i got this, i don't know what it means
fallow belfry
dd
Jk, you just need to change your command to sudo cp -r
That tells it to recursively look in folders and copy the contents
near maple
i tried dd before installing another arch
i wasn't able to edit the fstab for some reason , because the drive wasn't showing up on my filemanager from my existing install
fallow belfry
dd is a quick way to wreck your PC
It's lovingly referred to as "disk destroyer"
One mistake and everything is gone, no confirmation
sand pecan
dd is a classic example of "use at you own risk"
it's pretty powerful when used correctly
but that power also includes destroying your disk
near maple
one last thing , what folders should i be copying
where do applications save there data
i was planning on moving all
but let's say i ran into a bit of a probleming copying /proc
oh
ijust realised
i was copying /folder to /newinstall/folder
which means it was saved as /newinstall/folder/folder
😭
forest latch
i use dd mainly to destroy data on a disk
/dev/urandom
run it a few times and the data on the drive should be fully unrecoverable
emphasis on should
but policies sometimes require the physical destruction of the drives as well
near maple
one last thing , what folders should i be copying
my apps seem to be there , and hyprland , waybar , and mpvpaper seem to work
but
browser ins't able to find my profile
discord and kitty terminal don't work
most apps don't work
i dont know what am missing
i was able to copy all folders except sys , proc , and run]
fast mango
on linux , lighter games such as geometry dash and osu get a huge performance ju...
Minecraft gains are huge
Its like going from 1440p to 1080p
Without changing the resolution
Deep rock is also faster than windows by like ~10%
Also didnt have a single crash switching to bsl
Bsl is pretty similar to complementary so thats nice
Proton is nuts man
Warframe used to be between 2/3 to 3/4 of what windows was, like I turned up the resolution
Then when ge-proton 9-25 came out its nearly parity with windows
Within 10%
dusk kernel
browser ins't able to find my profile
Did you copy the "dot files" in your /home/[username]/ folder? I use Firefox and my profile is at /home/[username]/.mozilla/firefox/[profile_folder]
fast mango
When 3% of the world uses your operating system
Fellas I think I found the problem
Updating ge proton to 9-27
26 has no problem
fast mango
Such a simple solution
That became worse because of my stubbornness
And my stubborn ass still didnt put home on a different partition
Bosnia brain
sand pecan
I did pacman -Sy am I cooked
Bro is distrohopping at a rate of 1/day
valid python
hi y'all
fast mango
Bro is distrohopping at a rate of 1/day
Nah I had cachy for a couple weeks now
valid python
so i'm kinda not able to start this whole linux setup thing, and to combat that i'd rather just start talking here and asking literally the first ever steps to do anything regarding linux and arch
it's a starting problem i'm facing atm since last week
fast mango
I use cachy for minecraft and nobara for everything else
sand pecan
I'd just stick with one
sand pecan
so i'm kinda not able to start this whole linux setup thing, and to combat that ...
What are you looking for in particular?
fast mango
I never installed arch but what you should do first thing is shrink your partitions unless you are putting it on a new system
fast mango
True
valid python
What are you looking for in particular?
my vision is, I would like to be able to dual boot into Windows 11 (purely just for gaming and compatibility stuff & since W10 won't be supported anymore), and to Arch linux as my main daily driver and everything else
fast mango
Shrink your windows partition
sand pecan
Pre partitioning is a good practice
valid python
sure tell me more
sand pecan
Basically you just set up the partitions before actually installing the system
Are you looking for anything specific in regards to arch?
What do you want out of your install?
valid python
What do you want out of your install?
can you mention anything about this as examples
I mainly just wanted to switch to linux after knowing microsoft was gonna end support for windows 10 which is what I use currently
valid python
I dipped my toes into linux with Mint and thought eh why shouldn't I use this instead
sand pecan
I'd recommend an arch based distro
@fast mango uses CachyOS
There's also EndeavourOS
I generally don't recommend installing arch from scratch for beginners
It's a massive pain in the ass to get everything set up
fast mango
Yeah fr
Cachy was just your typical distro installation but with arch under it
Pretty good
valid python
Why arch specifically?
I'm gonna be honest, it was because I've watched a few long videos about arch and stuff, knew about all the customization and everything, and a bonus of not using microsoft. I actually also really enjoy dissecting technical stuff, learning more about a new thing as I go and get some satisfaction when completing what I wanted to achieve