#windows-ios

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balmy grove
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Pff, I'll probably end up with another much newer laptop in the future anyway

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I can always wait

crisp spire
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u have da 3600x yea

balmy grove
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The mining rig will only have it lmao

crisp spire
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win key+r

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tpm.msc

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do that

balmy grove
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I'll check rn

crisp spire
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on laptop

balmy grove
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laptop?

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nah, i checked

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windows says no tpm detected

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but the rig for sure has tpm 2.0

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bios has zero tpm mentions

crisp spire
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oofers

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you can still update tho

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when the official win 11 iso comes out

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dw about it

balmy grove
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oh?

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ill stay tuned then

crisp spire
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swap a file from the win 10 iso into the win 11 iso

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its that easy

balmy grove
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oh wow

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inb4 someone actually manages to do google play store on win 11

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cause ms did show android app support

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but they use amazon app store

crisp spire
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will have to wait for the final one

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should still work tho

balmy grove
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then the actual thing could work, theoretically

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just gotta wait, whelp

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but im patient if it actually works

icy oak
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I'm probably gonna stick with Win 10 a while longer. Give 11 a year or so to start sorting itself out before I even start considering it as an upgrade.

spice beacon
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Most people should yeah, get the early bugs out of the way

dense mirage
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This might be an issue

crisp spire
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TPM?

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You can bypass that

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One file copied over from win 10 iso to win 11 iso

icy oak
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The new system I just built I'm pretty sure smashes all those requirements. Just not going to upgrade immediately because any new Windows version takes at least a year after release to be decently functional.

dense mirage
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And secure boot, and internet requirements

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Also, bypassing a security feature by modifying your iso is generally considered a very bad idea

spice beacon
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That moment when win 11 uses the amazon app store instead of google play store peepoSadSip

dense mirage
icy oak
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I'm pretty sure a Ryzen 5600x system is fine.

dense mirage
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Not sure if windows 11 will allow that or if it'll require an actual hardware module thouogh

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In either case, you'll probably have to manually enable it in bios

crisp spire
cinder mauve
pine tendon
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Oh sorry didnt see you i installed it of a usd thumb drive but no code so i need a code now

finite merlin
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Usd?

cinder mauve
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i wanna see if i have tpn 2.0, where do i find it in bios settings

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if my laptop doesn’t support it i’m selling both my laptops and getting myself a new one for windows 11

lofty apex
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...Why would you get rid of your laptops just for a new version of Windows? Especially Windows 11? DaHeck

cinder mauve
tepid silo
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Look for fTPM

lofty apex
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...You don't have to be on Windows 10 forever, but you also don't have to replace your laptops the instant Windows 11 comes out. At the end of the day it is effectively just a reskinned version of Windows 10 with some new bleep bloops for you to mess around with

cinder mauve
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would**

tepid silo
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Have you looked?

cinder mauve
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not yet i was just going back to the settings

lofty apex
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Try looking under security, it might be there

cinder mauve
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this is under security

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i don’t see it anywhere

lofty apex
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If my eyes aren't spazzing out on me, I do believe it says TPM at the bottom yes?

cinder mauve
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yes

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but not fTPM

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and i can’t select any of those options

strong surge
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fTPM is just Firmware TPM from AMD

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You have TPM enabled but it's probably 1.2

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and not 2.0

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That said, just wait until more details come out

cinder mauve
strong surge
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Microsoft would be really stupid to require 2.0 for an OS

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Everyone would have to buy modules or update hardware

cinder mauve
strong surge
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I sincerely expect this to change

lofty apex
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Yeah, Microsoft needs to clarify if they really mean 1.2 is the hard limit or not

cinder mauve
strong surge
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Right and that's not what MS wants

cinder mauve
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i only got this laptop a year ago and i use it everyday

strong surge
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So just sit tight and wait for more news XD

cinder mauve
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i don’t want to have to get a new one

strong surge
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We've got 6 months until the release

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Plenty can/will change

vestal ibex
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The DX12 requirement also limits you to GTX 10 series or newer GPUs. At least AMD GPUs go back to Radeon HD 7000 for DX12 support. (and even some 6000s)

vestal ibex
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That counts

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The 6000 series is from 2010 so anything AMD that's newer than that supports DX12

dense mirage
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And after that, Linux will pretty much always support it

cinder mauve
vestal ibex
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New does not mean best

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Despite what these companies have tricked you into believing

cinder mauve
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i know but i want a more modern look

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i hate having to use taskbar x for a ventered taskbar, its so glitchy lo

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i apologize if i sound cocky and greedy and ungrateful

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im grateful i even have a computer

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but if i cant get win 11 i will be dissapointed

vestal ibex
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This whole thing stinks of M$ copying Apple. Slap a new interface on it and call it a whole new OS, even though it's practically the same.

dense mirage
vestal ibex
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Remember how they claimed at the announcement event that "no one else" supports window snapping?

cinder mauve
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also i could never switch to linux a i dont have money to switch, b ill lose everything c not all apps have a linux download option

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example genshin impact game i play everyday

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isnt on linux

pine tendon
pine tendon
cinder mauve
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o

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i still could never do it

dense mirage
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And any gui customization you could think of

cinder mauve
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i can download it on my other laptop i dont use

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how do i do it lol

dense mirage
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Grab a USB, flash to installer to the USB, plug in USB, press install

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Do you have Nvidia graphics?

cinder mauve
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on the laptop i wanna install linux on?

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no i have intel. and i have amd on this main laptop im not gonna install linux on

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so no nvidia at all no

cinder mauve
dense mirage
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2, maybe 4

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Some are less than one

cinder mauve
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and if i ever wanted to revert back to windows, would i have to pay again

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would the key still be there

dense mirage
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Genshin is currently getting mixed results on Linux, sometimes works sometimes doesn't

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You'd probably want to sync the key to your Microsoft account

cinder mauve
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how?

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i mean i have 2 laptops. 1 has winodws

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other im gonna download linux on

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so they key will be on 1 laptop

dense mirage
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I can't remember how exactly

cinder mauve
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ill google it

dense mirage
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I think it's automatic, but idk

cinder mauve
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so thats good

lofty apex
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Or you could get the product key for the laptop's version of Windows 10, write it down somewhere and if you want to switch back you use that key with a fresh install of Windows 10

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You do it by using some command prompt script I think

cinder mauve
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its already linked to my acc

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so no need

lofty apex
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Oh, derp. Nevermind

cinder mauve
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also which linux do i download?
website says

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ubuntu

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cent os

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debian, fedora, slackware

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mint

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and so on

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theres 25 options

dense mirage
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Probably ubuntu, kubuntu, mint, or pop

cinder mauve
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oh those are the distributions

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so lik ehwere to get it from

dense mirage
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There's more than 25 actually, where are you looking?

cinder mauve
dense mirage
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Ah

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Also elementary

cinder mauve
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ill just do ubuntu

dense mirage
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Take a look at some screenshots

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Especially elementary

cinder mauve
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i just want the basic

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classic linuz

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linux

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most use

dense mirage
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There isn't one

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Looks familiar?

cinder mauve
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that looks like mac os

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can- i get that one? LOL

dense mirage
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Yup. That's elementary's default theme

cinder mauve
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i like it

dense mirage
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Elementary is built off of Ubuntu btw

cinder mauve
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elementary isnt on the list so ill just google it

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ok

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so linux is like

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1 software

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with different variations

dense mirage
cinder mauve
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it says you have to purchase it

dense mirage
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Nope

cinder mauve
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its 20 dollars apparently

dense mirage
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Read closely

cinder mauve
dense mirage
vestal ibex
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"Pay what you want" meaning you can pay $0

cinder mauve
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yea but it still forces you

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OH

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DAMN

dense mirage
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How much you wanna pay?

cinder mauve
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OK

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nothing

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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OK its downloading, 2 mins

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this is gonna be fun

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the laptop up downloading it on is a touchscreen

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will that still work

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if not idc

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just curious

dense mirage
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Type in zero and the button changes to download

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It will

cinder mauve
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oh it says to have an SSD

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mine is an HDD

dense mirage
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That's fine

cinder mauve
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intel i3... i have an i3 10th gen

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it is 64 bit

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and has 8 gb ram

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so im all good

dense mirage
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It'll just take a bit longer to boot on HDD

cinder mauve
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thats fine

dense mirage
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Probably about 20 seconds tops

cinder mauve
dense mirage
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You'll need a program called Rufus

cinder mauve
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bruh..

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oh

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alr lemme download it

dense mirage
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You need to flash the iso file you just downloaded to the USB

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Is there anything on the USB?

cinder mauve
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i downloaded rufus

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yea but wont it wipe it automatically?
it was my old install of windows actually

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but i dont need it

dense mirage
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Okay, cool

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Any files you need off of the laptop?

cinder mauve
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nope

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everything is already on here

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ok rufus is open

dense mirage
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Cool beans

cinder mauve
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now what

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rufus is open

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im assuming youve done this before

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you know like every step HAHA

dense mirage
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For device, select your USB

cinder mauve
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already done

dense mirage
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I'm a sysadmin 😂

cinder mauve
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i dont know what that is 🤣

dense mirage
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Boot selection select the elementary iso you just downloaded

cinder mauve
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ok all good

dense mirage
cinder mauve
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thats cool

dense mirage
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All good, click start

cinder mauve
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theres "write in ISO imagie mode" and "Write in DD image mode"

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im assuming ISO

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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copying iso files

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i appreciate the help btw

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this is going to be fun

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im excited

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windows is the only OS ive ever used

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ever

dense mirage
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It's a fun experience, especially on a secondary computer that you can mess around with

cinder mauve
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yea my dad got it off a friend brand new for like 50 bucks

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i dont have a huge use for it

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so its fun

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im especially gonna use it for windows 11 beta, maybe maybe not

dense mirage
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Virtual machines are your friend

cinder mauve
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it can run windows 11, according to pc health check

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eh i dont wanna pay for one

dense mirage
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They're also free

cinder mauve
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all the ones ive seen you gotta pay

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could ya dm me some when u get the chance?

dense mirage
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Virtual box is a big one

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I'll show you how to install it once Linux is up and running

cinder mauve
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eh i dont need that right now

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maybe tomorrow

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OKAY

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it says status ready

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now what? :D

dense mirage
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Is it done copying?

cinder mauve
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yep

dense mirage
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Cool

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You know how to boot to a USB drive?

cinder mauve
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advanced startup?

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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mk\

dense mirage
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Find the boot device selection, and select your USB

cinder mauve
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uh

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it says

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verification failed: (ox1a) security violation

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i clicked ok

dense mirage
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Ah, yup

cinder mauve
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the selected boot device failed

dense mirage
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Forgot about that lol

cinder mauve
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press enter to continue

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what the hell is this

dense mirage
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Secure boot

cinder mauve
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ah

dense mirage
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Go into bios or firmware settings or whatever that laptop calls it and disable it

cinder mauve
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alright

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bit locker??

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nvm

dense mirage
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Windows 10 thing

cinder mauve
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i clicked skip this drive

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ok im in uefi firmware settings/bios

dense mirage
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Windows saw something different going on and locked down out of caution

cinder mauve
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actually pretty smart of them

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to do that

dense mirage
cinder mauve
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boot device options im assuming

dense mirage
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Bios setup

cinder mauve
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alr

dense mirage
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Long story lol

cinder mauve
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hold on gtg do sum

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brb

dense mirage
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Np

cinder mauve
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ok back

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ok lemme go into the bios setup

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boot options?

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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OH LORD

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I PRESSED A LETTER

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AND MY COMPUTER MADE A HUGE BEEP

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THAT SCARED ME

dense mirage
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Is it an HP?

cinder mauve
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MHM

dense mirage
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Yup, they do that

cinder mauve
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okay i disabled safe boot!

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alright changes saved

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lets try that again

dense mirage
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Man, I start typing the next step and then you keep telling me you already did it 😂

cinder mauve
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HAHA

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some of it is self explanitory

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bruh it says bitlocker recovery again

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i pressed esc

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skip drive

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ok good

dense mirage
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Find the USB?

cinder mauve
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why do hp's beep 😭

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and yes

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it scared

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the living hell out of me

dense mirage
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HP dum

cinder mauve
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like im still shaking a little bit

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legit could be used as an emergency alert alarm

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AYYY

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ITS WORKING

dense mirage
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I hard disabled the beeper on mine lol

cinder mauve
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we

dense mirage
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Nice

cinder mauve
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are

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in

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okay click install elementary?

cinder mauve
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and it safe to connect to my home wifi

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correct?

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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just being safe

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dont want us to get hacked or anything

dense mirage
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More secure than windows under most circumstances actually

cinder mauve
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wouldnt be surprised

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i use norton usually

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wait

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should i have uninstalled norton

dense mirage
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Linux runs more than 90% of the internet and a good chunk of the power and communication grids

dense mirage
cinder mauve
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mk

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erase dusj abd unstall elementary?

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disk and*

dense mirage
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Yup, unless you want to keep windows. You can have both on one computer BTW

cinder mauve
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I DO WANNA keep windows

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so i can boot back into it

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at any time

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is that possible

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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like kind of like boot camp on mac os

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you can switch between each os you want

dense mirage
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There should be some sort of install alongside windows option, right?

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Yup, almost exactly the same idea

cinder mauve
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@dense mirage

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those are the only options

dense mirage
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Ah man, the nice button is gone. No biggie. Select something else

cinder mauve
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ok done

dense mirage
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Time to play with partitions! How big is your HDD?

cinder mauve
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only 128 gb

dense mirage
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Oof

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Huh

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You might not want to dual boot on that laptop then

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You could, but it'll be tight

cinder mauve
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i wont then

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is it possible to just delete hte linux and reinstall windows

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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mk

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ill do that then

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the key is attached to my microsoft acc

dense mirage
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You can go both ways

cinder mauve
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alright its gonna erase it all

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goodbye windows

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hello cute penguin

dense mirage
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Lol

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I'm really hoping you get these references...

cinder mauve
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i get the ill be back

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isnt that terminator

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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my parents quote it sometimes

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so i know lol

dense mirage
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Red pill blue pill was the matrix

cinder mauve
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i may be young, but i at least know what a VHS is.

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and cassettes

dense mirage
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I do not miss VHS. Those things sucked lol

cinder mauve
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we have one, we have a couple of tapes from the late 90's when my sister was a baby. it was cool

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also my biggest flex

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i beat the oregon trail game.

dense mirage
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Which one?

cinder mauve
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i found online the remake of the old one from the 90's

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i think its 90's

dense mirage
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Nice

cinder mauve
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may be late 80's

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bye i just found this meam

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meme*

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Doctor: "Sir, i'm afraid your DNA is backwards."

Patient: "And?"

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OK INSTALLATION COMPLETE

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restarting

dense mirage
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🤦

cinder mauve
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was that to what i did with elementary

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or the joke

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AYYY

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ITS ON

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ELEMENTARY OS IS RUNNING

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I

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LOVE

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THIS

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NOW is it possible to download chrome, and apps that support linux

dense mirage
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Start the app enter

cinder mauve
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i did

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all the apps suck

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lol

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im just downloading chrome through the borwser

dense mirage
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The ones they have up front do

cinder mauve
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browser*

dense mirage
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Chromium should be in there

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Not sure about chrome chrome

cinder mauve
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chromium web browser?

dense mirage
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Yup

cinder mauve
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i think i can actually

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like actual chrome

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sending photo

dense mirage
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Deb

cinder mauve
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cant open it

dense mirage
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Uh

cinder mauve
dense mirage
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Oof

cinder mauve
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ill just use the default browser

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i kinda like it

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also can i remove the usb stick

dense mirage
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It's Firefox, right?

cinder mauve
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idk

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how do i safely eject it

dense mirage
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Yup, USB stick is clear to remove

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Yank, you haven't mounted it yet

cinder mauve
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what do you mean

dense mirage
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Yank it

cinder mauve
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also i have like 5 mins then i have to go unfortunatley

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o

dense mirage
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Cool beans

cinder mauve
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i can yank it and not have to eject it

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ok all good

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this is very exciting

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ill play around with it myself a little more tomorrow

dense mirage
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Usually you do, but because you haven't actually connected it in this case, you didn't need to

cinder mauve
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i have a few more mins

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hey i can get macos without spending 1500 dollars on a laptop that turns into a stovetop with 1 tab open!

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win win

dense mirage
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For installing software, generally go through the app center, there's some few dozen thousand packages there. For the ones that aren't, grab the Deb file and install it with the terminal

cinder mauve
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i can even sign in with my gmail

dense mirage
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Yup

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Daily driver usage is pretty much the same

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The main thing is some games don't work, but that's being worked on

cinder mauve
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how do i pin an app to the bottom taskbar

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yea im ok with that

dense mirage
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I actually don't know lol. Try right click?

cinder mauve
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lets see

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didnt work

dense mirage
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Darn

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I'm sure there's some way. I don't use that GUI though, so I have no clue

cinder mauve
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i cant download any apps

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i tried downloading discord deb

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didnt work

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okay i gtg

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any messages you send abt this

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ping and ill reply tmrw

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cya! thx for the help

dense mirage
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Roger

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😂

cinder mauve
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kk

brittle cedar
obsidian summit
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its still 99 percent health after all that

crisp spire
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after all what?

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4tbw lol?

bronze fable
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If its rated for 400tbw then yes its normal

crisp spire
bronze fable
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Yeah 4tbw is almost new drive lol

crisp spire
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even this isnt a lotta data written

tired orchid
crisp spire
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Its a .debian file download

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that debian based linux OSes use

brittle cedar
dense mirage
brittle cedar
dense mirage
brittle cedar
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idk?

dense mirage
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There ya go

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No reason to have windows

floral wedge
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Does windows 11 support everything 10 does?

strong surge
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Yes AFAIK

tired orchid
dense mirage
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Not officially, but it appears to at least support most stuff even if it's unofficial

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Officially everything before zen+ or 8th gen got dropped, but it seems to work on them anyway

floral wedge
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Yea I have a Gen 7 that performs better than a lot of newer stuff and I think it will be ok

strong surge
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7th gen intel?

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No tpm 2.0 support.....that will be an issue.

tired orchid
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Oh, older than 8th gen Intel is just not going to work?

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That's what we like to call, Really F'ing stupid.

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Just remove TPM requirement from Home and make it Optional for Pro, but Required for Enterprise

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Everyone is happy.

dense mirage
hoary nacelle
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^ my i7 8700 and m3 8100Y are both included in the supported list

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neither of which have TPM 2 i think

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idk i havent researched though

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all i know is i just did the training at best buy for windows 10 and now im going to probably have to do another one for 11 lololololol (end me)

dense mirage
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For some desktops at least you can add on the module

strong surge
floral wedge
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I'ma hope that it will work but I have no idea

wary furnace
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So using the Windows tool to put Windows on a new drive, going to clear the old one in a bit, do I choose upgrade or create installation media? Can't find the new drive in file manager yet because it hasn't been set, but I think this will be able to see it?

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And if I can use create installation media and put it on the new drive, would it be able to boot into the installer from that?

crisp spire
maiden valve
crisp spire
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I have it as the 3rd os on my pc

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Like my new good pc

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Win 10, MacOS Big Sur and linux mint

maiden valve
crisp spire
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Gamin on linux has come a long way

maiden valve
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I'm more watching Windows 11. Apparently Microsoft decided to be brash and usurp Chromium devs to create a modified Linux kernel for Windows 11

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Linus was NOT happy about that. There's rumors floating around that Microsoft wanted to make Windows 11 run on a modified Linux kernel and make it run better than any Linux distro, with the intent of making Linus Torvald irrelevant and force him to sell out.

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They're just trying to maintain their monopoly on the consumer PC market, from what it looks like. Stifling competition has always been the biggest play in their playbook...And the saddest part is a lot of people know but don't care.

cyan pulsar
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Does i5-9400F have TPM 2.0? Its 8th gen

cyan pulsar
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Nvm just realized my issue is storage…

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Got a 256GB drive

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Dont have 64GB minimum left on if

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It*

spice beacon
cyan pulsar
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Its enabled

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I realized that that indeed wasnt the issue and it is indeed storage as i only have like 30GB left and it says it requires at least 64GB

crisp spire
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win key + R

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opens the run bos

cyan pulsar
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Alright

crisp spire
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type in

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tpm.msc

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and hit enter

cyan pulsar
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Yeah it says 2.0

crisp spire
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Yep ur good to go then!

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I would 100% pick up a 500gb ssd tho

cyan pulsar
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Was looking into a 1TB actually but thanks though

crisp spire
#

thats a good one

cyan pulsar
#

Cool

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well now im confused

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i meet every requirement...

spice beacon
#

Can you move the file explorer first?

cyan pulsar
#

well actually the RTX 2080 super is directX 12 compatible right?

spice beacon
#

Wanna see what the software says

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Ye it does

cyan pulsar
#

alright

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maybe since im apparently not on the latest feature update?

spice beacon
cyan pulsar
#

Currently waiting for it to install lol

crisp spire
#

Nah its not the update

cyan pulsar
#

I thought i installed it like a few days ago but apparently not

crisp spire
#

do you have secure boot on?

cyan pulsar
#

I should

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I thino

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Think*

crisp spire
#

also did you restart the app after copying stuff over off ur ssd?

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thats a very important step

cyan pulsar
#

That’s something i cant check till i go to my moms

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I didnt even have it open today

crisp spire
#

restart it

cyan pulsar
#

Yeah

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I did

crisp spire
#

again

cyan pulsar
#

Well the entire PC is now restarting

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Now to wait for connection to be available again in Parsec

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Still says i cant update it

spice beacon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cyan pulsar
#

My laptop can upgrade and its a year older than my desktop even -_-

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It also has 85% full storage

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Only has 15.8GB of 105GB apparently

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Oh actually my desktop doesnt have the TPM enabled apparently

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I typed the command on my laptop not my desktop by accident -_-

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Thats why it said 2.0 earlier

crisp spire
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lol

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how do you make that mistake

cyan pulsar
#

Using my desktop through parsec

crisp spire
#

oh i see

cyan pulsar
#

Theres even a ethernet cable connection to show that as when you look to the left side of my laptop where the ethernet cable is there is no cable coming out lol

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There isnt a way to access my BIOS without being at my house right? XD

crisp spire
#

I mean parsec is an app that runs on windows

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does windows load while in the bios menu?

cyan pulsar
#

I have no idea plus you have to load into the BIOS before the PC even fully turns on so i have no idea how thatd work…

crisp spire
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Ok let me simplify

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bios and windows are seperate

cyan pulsar
#

Yeah

crisp spire
#

bios loads

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and then the bios loads the windows boot loader

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and then windows boots up

cyan pulsar
#

Yeah

crisp spire
#

while ur changing bios options

#

windows hasnt even thought about booting up lmao

cyan pulsar
#

Yeah

#

Also when does Windows 11 launch again for insiders?

crisp spire
#

soon

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4-5 days soon

cyan pulsar
#

Cool

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So then means i also should have time to turn this on then lmao

brittle cedar
cyan pulsar
#

Yeah i know how to do it i just think i disabled it by accident

brittle cedar
#

what does it do?

strong surge
#

Trusted Platform Module, it's like a hardware password for the OS

brittle cedar
#

oh

rocky tiger
#

What do I do for Win10 reset? Do I get the new reinstall on “cloud” or “local”?

spice beacon
#

Download that grab a 8gb+ usb stick that you don't have data on (or move the data) and run that

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Then you boot to the usb stick and reinstalled Windows

rocky tiger
#

What about the built-in options of “could download” and “local reinstall”?

crisp spire
#

Not as good

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Media creation tool best

rocky tiger
#

Is it just the download time or will the actual copy be worse if I use cloud save?

crisp spire
#

Cloud save is a way to save game save files lol

cinder mauve
#

what is a good app/software that gives specific apps taking up storage? i wanna see everything taking up my storage on my laptop but windows doesnt show anything, like it doesnt show steam or epic games apps, etc

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ping if answer

spice beacon
cinder mauve
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theyre all in megabytes

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i dont know how to convert the big ones like genshin or assetto to GB

cinder mauve
#

@spice beacon

cinder mauve
last gorge
delicate onyx
#

Is it possible to go from CSM to UEFI without reinstalling windows?

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Windows 11 requires UEFI and I have an invite for the windows 11 preview

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(Requires UEFI because you need secure boot)

runic geyser
#

is anyone else having issues with parsec

#

noticing it's hanging for a few seconds at a time

delicate onyx
#

can you convert Master boot record to GPT?

runic geyser
#

yea

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literally just use diskpart and the command is convert gpt

dense mirage
uncut sierra
#

I think I'm funny

#

multiTask

delicate onyx
#

Screw it

#

Too much work converting an active windows install to GPT

#

Wiped my entire OS, windows 11 is downloading now

#

Idk why they need secure boot, pain in my rump

tired orchid
#

Honestly, the ideal thing that they need to do is make it so that Home does not require the TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot at ALL. Pro should have it as Optional, and Education/Enterprise should be the only version to REQUIRE TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot.

dense mirage
#

Secure boot is a non issue

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That's something that if you don't have enabled you should enable ASAP

#

There's also rumors, nothing I've been able to confirm yet, that TPM 2.0 is only a soft requirement and that the hard requirement is TPM 1.2

tired orchid
#

I'm like 80% sure my dad's 6600K + Z170 has like, no TPM support at all.

delicate onyx
tired orchid
#

He couldn't find anything in his Asrock Z170 Pro4 motherboard.

delicate onyx
#

It should be under security

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It's called PTT or FTPM

#

Does your motherboard have a tdpm header

tired orchid
#

His does, I don't have to worry due to myself being on Ryzen 3000

delicate onyx
#

So Intel 6th and 7th gen core series can emulate tpm 2.0. there is a few hiccups occasionally

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8th gen Intel and older is flawless emulation

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And I think amd Ryzen 2nd gen and older is flawless emulation

tired orchid
#

Zen+ and Newer has TPM 2.0 emulation

delicate onyx
#

What did Ryzen G1 have? 1.2? None?

tired orchid
#

Probably 1.2

delicate onyx
#

Has anyone figured out why windows 11 wants tpm yet?

dense mirage
#

Security

dense mirage
#

Or, you know, just look at the board

tired orchid
#

There's TPM Emulation in the motherboard, but for some ungodly reason it isn't in the Security tab of the BIOS.

dense mirage
#

I was more talking about the fact that the manual had the tpm header labled

#

If the 1.2 hard requirement pans out, there's going to be basically zero issues for desktop users

#

Laptops are another story, but given that any laptop without at least TPM 1.2 is already probably 5+ years old, it's not gonna have to worry about still being usable for windows in another 4 years

#

The bigger issue about Windows 11 requirements is the CPU

civic shell
#

should i install preview of win 11 right mow

dense mirage
#

Do you need the computer for school, work, social life, or games?

civic shell
#

me?

dense mirage
#

Yes

civic shell
#

it is my daily driver

dense mirage
#

I'd lean against it then

civic shell
#

ok

dense mirage
#

This is the first beta release that's available

civic shell
#

then maybe after a month or 2 when it will be stable

dense mirage
#

Maybe

civic shell
#

shouold install then\

#

k

runic geyser
#

tpm requirement is gonna make a lot of ewaste

#

also will make ransomware ezpz

#

since now everyone can just use bitlocker keeeek

hoary nacelle
#

dumping some stuff about 11 here so if you dont care just tldr i love it

#

i installed it on my surface go 2, so far i have been loving the improvements to the touchscreen experience

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it has shifted my view of surface products, before i thought they were good if you could put up with windows touchscreen quirks and how it didnt work so great, but those issues have all been addressed

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it has become more responsive, scrolling is smoother, and things are larger/combined to make it easier on a touch interface

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example the basic settings

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i love how it combines that all into one panel that pops up

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little bit upset they removed full screen start/dont have a replacement for it, that would have really sealed the deal on the new touch interface, but oh well... this is still a dev build so maybe there is still hope

#

brb gonna update my desktop now, hopefully it doesnt screw up my macos and linux boot partitions too bad...

runic geyser
#

it looks like chromeos

#

lol

thorn lagoon
#

Microsoft in general irons out all the little touches with the final builds of their systems/games/products/whatever

thorn lagoon
#

Taking some design elements from pretty much every mildly popular OS ever

hoary nacelle
#

huge improvements in the touchscreen side of things

#

Also my keyboard doesn't have a seizure in discord now anymore

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And I didn't even have it in tablet mode kekw

#

i hope they try to convince more apps to move towards windows store

#

im happy to see creative cloud + OBS on it already

#

i know most people hate windows store... but the closer i can get to a package manager without 3rd party software the better

#

queue forks coming in to talk about chocolatey

thorn lagoon
#

OBS on windows?

#

That could be nice

#

How’s the bloat on that tho? Don’t windows store versions of apps tend to be a bit more bloated?

hoary nacelle
#

what i really want to see them improve on is quality control on what apps are allowed into the store... and most importantly not promoting junk like the chrome user guide

hoary nacelle
#

lol

thorn lagoon
#

Yeah they def need some quality control

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Apple App Store too

hoary nacelle
#

apple app store is usually decent

#

its the best in terms of quality control between google apple and microsoft

runic geyser
#

like not even close

thorn lagoon
#

Still bad

runic geyser
#

it's great

thorn lagoon
#

So much shovelware

hoary nacelle
#

...

runic geyser
#

yeah and?

hoary nacelle
#

if you look for the shovelware

#

but they usually only promote quality apps

runic geyser
#

if you seek it out its bad

thorn lagoon
#

I don’t need to look most of the time

#

But yeah ig you are right

hoary nacelle
#

how often are you in the app store?

thorn lagoon
#

I can usually find the app I’m looking for

#

Pretty damn easily

hoary nacelle
#

windows store promoting garbage $4 chrome user guides on the front page is nothing like the app store

runic geyser
#

^^^^^^^

hoary nacelle
#

hopefully they fix that... because apple needs competition

thorn lagoon
#

Yes they do

hoary nacelle
#

everybody and their mother has an iphone it seems like

runic geyser
#

apple is great tbh

hoary nacelle
#

even though android has a much higher market share... it seems like apple still dominates

runic geyser
#

been vibing with my macbook

hoary nacelle
#

m1?

runic geyser
runic geyser
hoary nacelle
#

LOL

#

rip support in about 2 years

thorn lagoon
#

Oh yeah, new IPad Pros have the M1

runic geyser
hoary nacelle
#

so happy with my surface go 2

runic geyser
#

and i can get 16 inch with more than 16gb ram

#

32gb is minimum for me

hoary nacelle
runic geyser
tepid silo
runic geyser
#

cant say no to free laptop

tepid silo
#

You have no desire to get hands-on fun with an m1 macbook?

runic geyser
#

only 16gb ram max

#

its like a little baby toy for little baby people

#

im idling at 16gb usage rn

thorn lagoon
#

I usually idle around 16gb as well

#

Does ctrl+shift+esc still work in windows 11?

runic geyser
#

@tepid silo i was thinking abt getting m1 macbook pro just so i can skin it

#

cause i want the new dbrand series but i already skinned this one

#

i bought xps 15 for wife and she likes it

hoary nacelle
#

so does win + shift + s

#

YOU KNOW WHAT DOESNT WORK ANYMORE

thorn lagoon
#

I tried win shift s

hoary nacelle
#

win + x + u + u :(

#

like it cost them $0 to not remove that feature...

#

i gotta shut down my computer like a normal user now...

tepid silo
hoary nacelle
#

m1 is trash x86 for life

#

screw arm

thorn lagoon
#

Weird tho, snip thinks my 1440p monitor (shows up as such in windows settings) is a 1080p monitor. Neofetch thinks the same thing.

hoary nacelle
#

waiting for leg

runic geyser
#

and work specifically let me expense a work pc, not a new toy

thorn lagoon
#

Bank

hoary nacelle
#

ROUNDED WINDOW BORDERS

tepid silo
#

So... sweat it out on a current gen thinkpad x1 carbon?

hoary nacelle
#

also the new sounds are really nice, out of the way and quiet

runic geyser
thorn lagoon
runic geyser
#

i dont want a thinkpad anymore

hoary nacelle
runic geyser
#

i had a p50 and a p53 and an older x1 carbon

hoary nacelle
#

wait

thorn lagoon
#

ALSO, THE TASKBAR DOESNT EXIST ON SECONDARY OR TERTIARY MONITORD

shadow jay
#

some of the app doesnt have icons sadge

runic geyser
#

i wanted something i could put robot camo on

hoary nacelle
thorn lagoon
#

I don’t care

runic geyser
#

80% of purchase was motivated by dbrand skin

hoary nacelle
thorn lagoon
#

It’s weird to have it as a default setting

hoary nacelle
#

lili werent you the one telling me to get a thinkpad over the surface

shadow jay
#

this looks fine

shadow jay
hoary nacelle
#

not setting

thorn lagoon
#

default visual appearance

hoary nacelle
runic geyser
#

this laptop was like $4k lol i would never spend that

thorn lagoon
#

How do I bring the task bar to the left, where’s that setting

hoary nacelle
shadow jay
runic geyser
#

give it a year

hoary nacelle
thorn lagoon
#

Thanks

hoary nacelle
#

i think

shadow jay
#

because i can do that also xD

hoary nacelle
#

if not you can just right click taskbar and click taskbar settings

shadow jay
#

@hoary nacelle check if it has icon if empty

hoary nacelle
#

where?

shadow jay
#

dont type anything.. just click search

#

just like that

hoary nacelle
#

oh i unpinned search

runic geyser
#

right now im vibin tho

shadow jay
#

yeah try search

hoary nacelle
shadow jay
runic geyser
#

macbook, lenovo gamer laptop, system76 gazelle, and pixelbook

shadow jay
#

xD

#

its buggy

hoary nacelle
#

default apps seem to have icons... 3rd party not so much

runic geyser
#

one device per OS

hoary nacelle
#

PIXELBOOK?

#

omg

shadow jay
#

xD

hoary nacelle
#

your purchases confuse me

runic geyser
#

yes i love it sm

shadow jay
#

unpin

#

gang

#

xd

runic geyser
#

i have the 1.7k trim

hoary nacelle
#

do you at least have linux installed on it

#

oh my god

runic geyser
#

its so fast

shadow jay
#

the transition

#

everything

runic geyser
#

i think chromeos is my mose used os at this point

hoary nacelle
#

disgusting

#

microsoft edge ftw

runic geyser
#

it's basically an ipad pro that has desktop browser and extensions

#

i pay for chrome enterprise im gonna use chrome enterprise

hoary nacelle
#

ipads have extensions now xd

runic geyser
hoary nacelle
#

idk

#

i thought u meant adblocker or something lol

runic geyser
#

youtube literally unusable without those

#

yeah ubo is adblocker

thorn lagoon
#

Lili, what browser do you use?

hoary nacelle
#

oh

#

didnt realize you shorted ublock to ubo

runic geyser
#

chrome enterprise

shadow jay
#

smh

#

now i have to use google chrome

hoary nacelle
#

i actually like edge a lot

runic geyser
#

based

#

wait unbased

hoary nacelle
#

no wonder my name is trash

runic geyser
#

i was calling tomie based

shadow jay
#

because my password are sync in google

runic geyser
shadow jay
#

not in microsoft

runic geyser
#

lastpass moment

hoary nacelle
#

MY DESKTOP IS DONE INSTALLING

#

YAAAAY

runic geyser
#

wait what do i use

shadow jay
#

lastpass i dont trust that

runic geyser
#

1password

shadow jay
#

if they live longer than google

#

maybe

#

xD

#

but google will never die

runic geyser
#

for work

shadow jay
#

that site might die

#

xD

runic geyser
#

and selfhosted bitwarden for personal

hoary nacelle
runic geyser
#

that will die when i do

shadow jay
#

i only trust google to peak into my anime selection

runic geyser
hoary nacelle
#

i set it to ctrl alt del when i themed my pc to look like vista

#

and i forgot how to change it back

#

i want a logitech brio webcam for windows hello

#

i love it on my surface

runic geyser
#

why would i let my pc see what i look like

thorn lagoon
#

Cringe

runic geyser
#

work told me i couldnt drill my macbook webcam

thorn lagoon
#

Don’t want skynet killing me

hoary nacelle
#

brb

runic geyser
#

i didnt look at schematics for the 16 inch but i wanna see if i can just disconnect it

hoary nacelle
#

IM SO HAPPY

runic geyser
#

or if integrated with mic/display cable

hoary nacelle
#

ROUNDED BORDERS

#

booo it ditched my spicetify theme

thorn lagoon
#

Hmmm

#

I should go do that on my lappy

#

BRB

runic geyser
#

my win10 is so heavily modified it would actually die if i trued to upgrade

hoary nacelle
#

sara you found the taskbar alignment thing right

runic geyser
#

so im stuck

thorn lagoon
#

No

runic geyser
thorn lagoon
#

I’m on my phone rn

hoary nacelle
thorn lagoon
#

Alright cool

#

Thanks

hoary nacelle
#

i love how unpinning search and widgets are like theyre programs now

#

instead of going through 30 sub context menus

runic geyser
#

zach forehead dox?

hoary nacelle
#

there are plenty of pictures and probably my full name in here multiple times if you really searched

#

ive been in here since like 2019...

#

i mean going out of your way to find them would be really rude

#

but

#

you theoretically could...

runic geyser
#

lol i was helping this host and all my friends were like "he accidentally self doxes all the time"

#

and i was meeting with him and he was sharing screen and accidentally opened photo scans of his gov ID

#

so you cant be as bad as that

hoary nacelle
#

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

#

SPICETIFY + ROUNDED BORDERS

runic geyser
#

wow that looks uh

#

really bad and ugly?

hoary nacelle
#

i remember this from a arch user who was here awhile ago

#

and ive been wanting to replicate it forever

thorn lagoon
#

Was pretty funny

hoary nacelle
#

and now i dont have to full switch to linux to achieve it :)

thorn lagoon
#

He was freaking out

hoary nacelle
#

things are surprisingly intuitive too... i figured since win + s was search, win + w was widgets

runic geyser
#

ppl grab my ip all the time im like "ohhh nooo you got an ip from my asn pool whatever will you do"

hoary nacelle
#

everything feels pretty snappy on 11 on the desktop side of things

runic geyser
#

"guess im in france/NL/canada kek"

thorn lagoon
#

Yeah but it’s funny when they have those internet-driven fear of IPs and all that

runic geyser
#

yeah

thorn lagoon
#

Sound could use a bit of mastery tho

runic geyser
#

gib me ur ip ill ddos u off the face of the earth

hoary nacelle
#

this looks really clean

#

i mean im going against everything i know as a poweruser

#

but i love the new updates tbh

runic geyser
#

@hoary nacelle that screenshot made me almost want to use a linux gui

#

i forgot theyre nice now

shadow jay
hoary nacelle