overclocking

[proven canopy]

You'll get more for your 1b sub once leeg removes mine

[bleak sable]

and when the 1B kicks the other guy off first place

[proven canopy]

I messaged him about it twice, idk

Just report mine lol

[bleak sable]

loli migght

hopefully the 1b 3.2 run updates and gives me first

guy cheated for a lot of points

[proven canopy]

Almost certainly not intentional

Neither was mine ofc

For a while benchmate was bugged and would sub 3.2 to the wrong category automatically

[bleak sable]

yeah im sure

i just wanna win

also my 1060 laptop is amazing

[prisma arch]

i got an error from that

[tired ridge]

did u say my name

[prisma arch]

lmao

[clever epoch]

They might compete at the low-midrange. They're gonna have a hell of a time keeping up in 2023

their iGPU drivers are biiiig poopy. Hopefully it's on a brand new driver stack (and it seems like it is), because the iGPU stack is a mess

[sterile flame]

MLID says to expect at least 3060- tier performance

Almost seems like MLID has a personal vendetta against Nvidia sometimes though so who knows

[clever epoch]

expect around 3070. It has similar specs, more cache, better node; but it's also Intel's first attempt, and drivers may be questionable

[short blade]

4*tRRDS is the minimum value for tFAW but it is allowed to be higher

but i've only had one kit that couldn't do tFAW = 4*tRRDS and it wasn't CJR

the ancient CJR kit i just worked on did tRRDS 4 tRRDL 6 tFAW 16

tRRDL 4 wasn't stable

[zenith palm]

@proven canopy I'm doing the corsair ddr5 thing, where do i see my aida score? And I've a r5 3600 what should i put in for freq?

[proven canopy]

freq doesn't really matter

Just have to show the aida window, right?

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/208677-the-official-corsair-ddr4-oc-open-thread/

https://hwbot.org/competition/CORSAIRDDR4OCOPEN

[sudden torrent]

Wait DDR5?

When did you get DDR5 @zenith palm lol

[zenith palm]

It says to put in the aida benchmark score

[zenith palm]

Sorry it's ddr4 but to win ddr5

[sudden torrent]

Ahh I see

[proven canopy]

Check previous subs to make sure https://hwbot.org/competition/CORSAIRDDR4OCOPEN

[zenith palm]

The pdf that was in the zip said otherwise

Thanks

[proven canopy]

wait, what does the pdf say

e.g. https://hwbot.org/submission/4803774

[zenith palm]

Yeah those submissions don't have but 1 sec

[zenith palm]

didnt let me sub without score

[proven canopy]

looks good to me

ofc, you enter in your read bandwidth you got as score

[zenith palm]

am i blind?

[sudden torrent]

That's what I had to do for time spy cpu test too

[proven canopy]

It's in the upper left of the aida window, check cens's sub

[zenith palm]

so memory read

ahh okay

https://hwbot.org/submission/4810846_patokav_aida64___memory_read_ddr4_sdram_45397_points?recalculate=true this sub okay?

[sudden torrent]

Boy I hope that 3200c16 is baseline score

And not after overclock

There's plenty of ways to cheese the aida64 bench too

[zenith palm]

Just subbed xmp cuz of random draw prize lol

[sudden torrent]

Baseline it is

[zenith palm]

Yep, i tried booting my 3600 18 19 19 40 auto 2nd and tert at 1.35v etc but did that boot failure enter recovery screen i have ptsd about so yeeted back to 3200

[sudden torrent]

3600c18 won't be much faster read anyway

[zenith palm]

Probs not lol

[sudden torrent]

You'd want to get first word latency as low as possible to improve read speeds, tightening timings is better than increasing speed

[zenith palm]

@sudden torrent swastika fun 🙃

[zenith palm]

Hmm if i can resub mb i should try 3200cl14

Well I'm doing the freq one atm

[sudden torrent]

Don't know why a white name was even allowed to post a pic...

[proven canopy]

Seems good - will look more closely later

[zenith palm]

That's weird, mb overclocking channel bugged

[zenith palm]

Thanks, can you resub?

[proven canopy]

You can always sub again to beat your old score.

[zenith palm]

Okay cool

[bleak sable]

lmao forks

+175 core -500 mem

beat the 2nd by 100+ seconds

[sudden torrent]

Daaang. Guess dropping mem increased power budget for core.

[zenith palm]

damm

[proven canopy]

Lol, nice

[proven canopy]

Nah, you just want to max freq above all tbh

[zenith palm]

would that not be more suited for stage 2 the frequency oc?

[prisma arch]

is this the 10km world record

[sudden torrent]

Yeah fallen just overclocked his legs, ez

[proven canopy]

Read bandwidth is most dependent on frequency, only a few timings kinda matter.

[zenith palm]

Ahh, well couldn't get it higher than xmp anyway, my kit does not like cl14 at all

[zenith palm]

Which timings affect it btw?

[forest radish]

the primaries and tRC are the biggest

also tRFC

[void kelp]

hey you guys know how to overclock amd cpu

[sudden torrent]

Guides are in the pins

On Zen 2 or 3 PBO overclocking is recommended

[void kelp]

hmm

[tall pelican]

Trtp matters a lot, and trdrd for the corsair comp read

[proven canopy]

But all of those are secondary to raw mhz aren't they? At least within a strap or two

[short blade]

i've gained like 2 gb/s read from tightening timings at the same freq

[tall pelican]

yeah, pretty much all secondary to frequency

you wont hit something like 4500 and 5 rdrd_sg, then at 4533 be limited to 6 rdrd_sg

also I still need to do frequency for ddr4 comp 🤢

[prisma arch]

damn

[proven canopy]

Comp deadline is in 3 days and I still don't own corsair lol, might borrow a kit, idk

[short blade]

i'll toss you mine, catch

[tall pelican]

just read is 3 days though, right?

[faint tangle]

jumps in between and grabs it

[tall pelican]

time for bestbuy run?

[proven canopy]

Yeah there's some $70 lpx kit at best buy

I'd rather buy some b-die and just aim for 5133 cl18 or something for fun

That said I've talked quite a few people into subbing for the comp who wouldn't have otherwise, so my job is done

[tall pelican]

yeah, we really just need more people, so companies will sponsor more comps

[short blade]

pretty sure it's worse than whatever you have lol

[zenith palm]

That juicy 3000mhzcl16?

[short blade]

indeed

[prisma arch]

clocking over

[bleak sable]

I wish I could understand cpu and ram OCing

But cpu OCing is too dangerous and my pC can’t clear cmos easily/no reset buttons

[sudden torrent]

It's only dangerous if you go outside recommended limits

[bleak sable]

i would, otherwise i wouldnt beat any scores lol

[sudden torrent]

Would you believe that I'm benching with my cpu at 1.27v

[bleak sable]

thats low lmao

which cpu

constant or max?

[sudden torrent]

5800X and that's load voltage, negative offset in bios

[bleak sable]

oh wow

eh if i had an intel cpu i would be more inclined

also any advice for how i could ram OC

[sudden torrent]

Memory is pretty simple. Figure out what die you have and you'll have an idea of what it can do.

[bleak sable]

no thats not the issue lol

my cmos pins and battery are under my gpu

and my pc has no reset buttom

[sudden torrent]

Wire your own button

[bleak sable]

oh lord

i would need to see how

[sudden torrent]

You plug it in https://www.amazon.com/Button-Desktop-Computer-Motherboard-Re-starting/dp/B079DLX7NS/ref=sr_1_4

[bleak sable]

thanks\

itll clear cmos right

[proven canopy]

Doesn't @tall pelican use something like this?

I use those on platforms without mobo buttons all the time e.g. quad g34

[bleak sable]

guy who subbed to the wrong bench still hasnt been removed

90 hardware points for nothing

[sudden torrent]

Give it time

[tall pelican]

yeah, elmor's doodad

doesnt tear apart your finger when you press it either

[proven canopy]

I got lardy to delete my gpupi 3.2 sub so you should get the global team power points for that

[brisk hound]

Looking for some guidance. I have a ryzen 5 3400g and 16 gb of Corsair vengeance ddr4 at 2133. These are in an Msi x470 gaming plus max (msi click bios 5).
I’ve read that overclocking even just the ram helps ryzens. In order to do that, do I just have to change the clock speed, or do I have to change voltage and such? I’m pretty sure my cpu can only use up to 2933 MHz.

[proven canopy]

What IC are in the sticks? Can you post a picture of the label on one of the sticks?

[brisk hound]

On the box or in my system

[proven canopy]

In your system, not sure if the box will show all the info

[brisk hound]

Okie one minute

Here we go

It’s 3200 MHz

But i don’t think I can go that high with cpu

[proven canopy]

Have you tried booting xmp?

[brisk hound]

No, I don’t know what that means

I’ve seen the option though

[proven canopy]

Could try that and run some stability tests. That said - I'd be careful overclocking anything on a daily system.

[brisk hound]

Ok I’ll look into it

Also, overclocking settings, there’s a memory try it option. Here’s what it says on the right side

Should I enable it and try one

[proven canopy]

No, if anything I would just enable xmp and see if that's stable, then go from there.

Updating your bios may also improve memory stability (if needed) - I would look at the release notes on later bios versions, if you do update, make sure the new version supports your cpu.

[brisk hound]

But on both xmp profiles, it defaults to 3200 MHz. Will that hurt anything?

[proven canopy]

Hurt what

[brisk hound]

My cpu

[proven canopy]

no

If anything you'll corrupt your windows install.

[brisk hound]

Well that wouldn’t be pleasant

Should I maybe boot it into a live Linux drive instead of windows

[proven canopy]

This isn't as good of a memory test as tm5, occt, other stuff you can run in windows - but you can boot it live https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6216-memtest86.html

[brisk hound]

Thanks I’ll try it after lunch

[zenith palm]

Your cpu should be able to get to 3200, wouldn't count it getting any higher tho

[brisk hound]

Okay I’m going to try the A-XMP mode from my bios and use the thing forks sent. We’ll see…

[zenith palm]

Xmp should work ye

[lavish tundra]

ram?

like what are you trying to say pato?

[brisk hound]

Nah I was wondering about my cpu, the specs say it only supports up to 2933 MHz. They said it should be fine

[lavish tundra]

3400g can do a lot more than 3200mts ram

which is why I was confused by what pato said

[brisk hound]

Ah

Have you ever used a 3400g

[dull ginkgo]

don't forget it's zen+

not zen 2

[lavish tundra]

apu tho

[dull ginkgo]

p sure 3400g isn't monolithic

[lavish tundra]

3400mts is a safe bet iirc

3600 doable probably

[zenith palm]

Yis

[zenith palm]

3400g mediocre imc, only the 56/5700g have nice imc iirc

[lavish tundra]

3400mts safe bet

[zenith palm]

Ehhhhhh also, there's like no 3400mhz xmp kits

Manual tuning pain for most

[tall pelican]

3200g is zen+, all zen and zen+ are monolithic apart from tr

[dull ginkgo]

oh fun

all of them have kinda bad imc so

[tall pelican]

"bad", reve/b can generally do 3600+

[dull ginkgo]

Can they? I know people that had trouble with 3200 on zen+

[short blade]

yeah I wouldn't call 3400 a safe bet on zen+

[tall pelican]

it was pretty common with light ICs

reve from zen+ time was pretty bad, but if you get a zen+ cpu, and give it current reve, its 3600+

iirc coffee got his to like 3933 or 4000 with current reve?

old reve was like 3333

[sudden torrent]

3400G is Zen+

Despite being named a 3000 processor

[tall pelican]

.

[sudden torrent]

I really need to stop skimming

[bleak sable]

Beat the mobile 1060 record for 32B 3.2 GPUPI

Beat the record by like 7 minutes I think

[sudden torrent]

Dang, very nice indeed

[zenith palm]

Damm

[brisk hound]

Okay so I ran the passmark memtest 86 off a usb stick with my ram in A-XMP mode, but what am I looking for

Actually I had just been doing the ram benchmark, now it’s doing the “test” which seems like it’s all ram stuff

[zenith palm]

The test will take a while

If you see error go up at all, stop and cry lel

[brisk hound]

I was gonna say, it’s been going almost ten minutes

Oh don’t worry, I probably will cry fr

So far there’s no errors soo

Ima wait

[zenith palm]

It'll take an hour I'd say

[brisk hound]

Aw man yeah it’s still on the first pass it says

I’m used to my computer doing stuff fast xD this is a new feeling… waiting…

[zenith palm]

Ram testing slow af

[brisk hound]

I see and I hate

Eh it’ll be worth it prbly

[sudden torrent]

The reason it takes so long is some errors only show up after extended use and heat, so while it's doing the preliminary tests it's heating up the memory to try to trigger those errors if they'll happen at all.

[brisk hound]

That makes sense.

My ram has stayed at a steady 15C the whole time though

Maybe later it’ll heat up. My cpu got to 64C and now it’s cool again

[prisma arch]

cold

[brisk hound]

Yeahh, and it still says that

My cpu has gotten to 69 degrees c, isn’t that pretty high

[tall pelican]

what's your ambient temp? Most likely just a misreading if your ram doesnt have temp sensors

15c ~ 59f

[brisk hound]

Oh yeah, I actually don’t know if it has temp sensors

It’s doing a waiting period in the test, so it’s not working super hard right now, but I touched my finger to the actual ram (in retrospect a bad idea), and it feels pretty hot. Like not burning, but real warm

[sudden torrent]

Warm is fine, if it gets too hot you'll see errors

[brisk hound]

By ambient temp, did he mean using an actual special thermometer or just by getting near it

So far no errors :D

[sudden torrent]

Ambient temp is just room temp

[brisk hound]

Ah ok

The air blowing out of my pc is slightly warm, but nothing compared to rendering davinci resolve fusion stuff xD not worried at this point

[prisma arch]

4266mhz ram cl16

[proven canopy]

what

[sudden torrent]

Just spamming

[brisk hound]

All done, no errors :) no crying

[sudden torrent]

Nice

[brisk hound]

So now I’m gonna just have some faster ram ig

Thanks guys so much

[prisma arch]

nice

[proven canopy]

Probably good to go yeah - if you want to be extra sure, run testmem5 with the anta777 config or some occt memory large avx2 next time you step away from the pc. memtest86 is just a convenient utility at times because it can't bork your os.

[brisk hound]

Ok. “Step away from pc”. Is that a joke. Maybe I could run it overnight

I’ll plan to do it, especially if I’m gonna do a resource heavy thing

[sudden torrent]

Not a joke. TM5 can take hours.

OCCT is limited to 1 hour on the free version

[brisk hound]

The one I just did took 3 hours 9 minutes and 27 seconds

Good to know. I might try both, but not while I want to do game or editing xD

[granite finch]

how to overclock in ideapad gaming 3

[sudden torrent]

Probably undervolting is best. Normally they can perform the same with a lower voltage, or better because less heat.

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-throttlestop/

[sudden torrent]

https://www.maketecheasier.com/reduce-cpu-temperature-undervolting/

[granite finch]

it means laptop dont overclock untill i just set it up by using 3rd party software

good

now i dont have to worry

thanks

[prisma arch]

is that a laptop

[granite finch]

yes so i am not doing

[prisma arch]

what cpu

[granite finch]

i5 10th

2.50ghz

intel integrated uhd + dedicated gtx 1650

[prisma arch]

if intel cpu you can use Quickcpu to get more performance out of it
works amazing with my i5-8250u
and change power plan to ultimate performance

[granite finch]

hm

[prisma arch]

also what games u play

[prisma arch]

overclock
nobody overclock

[zenith palm]

Could you not spam the name of every channel in like all the channels please 🙃

[prisma arch]

oh

it seems to be a habit

[lavish tundra]

its spam tbh

[proven canopy]

psa

[dull ginkgo]

Oh nice

[lavish tundra]

very poggers

https://www.ocbase.com/download/edition:Coolermaster

direct download link

[mossy fable]

can and how do u overclock a 2014 macbook air w big sur os?

[lavish tundra]

No

[mossy fable]

ok ty

[modern walrus]

Aside from Benchmate, are there other benchmark programs that submit to HWBOT for you?

[clever tree]

anyone know undervolt software for intel h series?

[modern walrus]

That I do not know

[prisma arch]

im not sure

[clever tree]

bc xtu refuses to install

[prisma arch]

Quickcpu = better performance i guess

[clever tree]

but heat

[prisma arch]

i think thrs a voltage slider

[clever tree]

ok will try

[prisma arch]

in version 3.3.4 or something there was a speedshift section where you can lock the processor at its max frequency

[clever tree]

my cpu hits 90 when i open phas

[prisma arch]

oh

maybe u need a better cooler
but try the software first

[clever tree]

laptop :/

[prisma arch]

ohh

laptop

right

that works fine

[clever tree]

yes

[prisma arch]

not sure if it will let you adjust voltage on laptop

[clever tree]

how much would i drop voltage offset by?

[viscid briar]

anyone have tips on overclocking my 3770k?

[prisma arch]

can do in bios or software

[prisma arch]

not much
try very small increments if it even works

[clever tree]

ok

time for stress test

is 50mv too much for a starting level?

aida 64 extreme

[prisma arch]

thats seems fine
50mv offset
maybe try with 25 or 30 first

[clever tree]

ok

works so far

[prisma arch]

ok

[pallid nest]

ooooo OC channel

[clever tree]

time for expload

[finite frigate]

Y’all got any ideas as to what bridging those pads would do

I assume allow for more voltage considering there’s monitoring points right above it

Card is an asus r9 280x

[proven canopy]

Did you take that pic with a flip phone?

[finite frigate]

nah im just lazy and dont want to focus lmao

[sudden torrent]

I'm no expert but I think those are for monitoring voltages

[finite frigate]

i was talking about the bottom most one

i guess that could be to enable the monitoring through those

[sudden torrent]

The ROG conn?

[finite frigate]

yeah

[tall pelican]

the holes are for soldering in probes / wires to probe

rog conn is to connect to asus controller, but Im assuming its just sda/scl

[brittle lake]

I have a msi pro mp241 is it safe to overclock?

[dull ginkgo]

overclocking a monitor is weird

[prisma arch]

i got mine from 165 to 166

hz

major difference

but somehow my school mintors are 75hz running at 60hz so i decided to troll everyone by setting it to a rly weird aspect ratio and setting it to 30hz

[prisma arch]

how to 'overclock' a laptop with non OC processor guide
download quickcpu version 3.3.4.0

set these to 100%

go to advanced settings and do this

go to speedshift and do this too
now it will be locked at higher frequency

[brittle lake]

Does it work for desktop too?

[lavish tundra]

better to use the bios on desktops

[proven canopy]

Turbov core is really nice to play with on Asus boards.

[bleak sable]

Ok

[prisma arch]

nice

[bleak sable]

@proven canopy this was what I was talking about

[proven canopy]

Why the phone screenshot lol

But yeah, nice job

Climbing up there

Two spots behind buildzoid's community team

[prisma arch]

my 8250u is like 85th or something in this random benchmark test

[proven canopy]

Pro tip - if you're trying to figure out how to get lots of points, look up a certain chip/card then look down the list and see what benches get lots of hardware points

The more people that bench a certain piece of hardware for a certain bench, the more hardware and hardware team power points you'll earn.

[tall pelican]

Ima be messing around with an 1165g7 soon, but iirc its all like 2.5 points lmao

[sterile flame]

It's astounding to me that you don't actually have to run anything for CPU frequency validation

Just get it to a high frequency and screenshot
They should at least include a light benchmark you have to finish to validate the score

[proven canopy]

cpuz's validation includes a light stress test.

[dull ginkgo]

Yea

Couldn't get my crappy laptop chip to hold high enough freq during validation

[zenith palm]

It's a very light stress test imo

[short blade]

yeah i've definitely had some ocs boot successfully, run cpu-z successfully, then crash mid validation

not quite as simple as just setting a high frequency

[prisma arch]

oh

[short blade]

cpu frequency shouldn't be about having it bench stable it should just be about frequency that's why it's called cpu frequency

[nova loom]

So if I plug my GPU into my cpu does it go faster?

[modern walrus]

how concerned should I be about this?

[tall pelican]

deviation, not at all

more just a 'huh" measurement

[bleak sable]

@proven canopy thoughts on 3200G on LN2?

[bleak sable]

Or I could 2-3 SLI 470s

GTX 470

[proven canopy]

Why do you ask? Don't want to try a 5300g? Check the hwbot page for the chip

[bleak sable]

Thought it was OEM, just wanted to mess with LN2 not for hwbot

[proven canopy]

Won't be good for points, but if you enjoy that platform, go for it

Something like a 10600k would be really fun to learn memory on on, any 8th gen and on chip really

If you want to bench legacy cpu, look for a p5e3 premium and a kit of hypers or similar

[bleak sable]

Memory I know

Cpus I do not

[proven canopy]

Haha really?

[lavish tundra]

memory OC is

[bleak sable]

Yeah I did it

I just don’t have a reset switch and I got lazy eith timings before

[proven canopy]

Haha

[steady pivot]

[prisma arch]

how

[barren ridge]

But ocing is fun tho

It's fun to mess with things

And sometimes isn't pointless in some cases

[proven canopy]

A little bit of oc and tuning is very practical. Spending more time in your bios than in game is not.

Overclocking and benching as a hobby in itself is a different story.

[zenith palm]

Say by by to windows at least once and good bit of time

[lavish tundra]

stabbing urself in the foot with a hammer is less painful

all the values involved in overclocking ram

[sudden torrent]

That's not even all of them

[lavish tundra]

Thats all on amd no?

others can be tuned only on intel or something?

[sudden torrent]

My board has a lot more than just that in the memory overclock menu

[lavish tundra]

oh?

[sudden torrent]

I'll grab some screenies just for you

[prisma arch]

ok

[lavish tundra]

UwU

[sudden torrent]

And you too I guess 😜

[prisma arch]

lol

[sudden torrent]

My bios saves screenshots as bitmaps apparently

[lavish tundra]

there do be a few that are not in my bios

Hmmm

[sudden torrent]

I like how I can manipulate the training behavior if I ever wanted to slam my memory against the wall so hard it doesn't boot 12 times in a row until it finally gives up

[prisma arch]

why dont you take a screenshot OF the bitmaps
but yea i dont have those timings on my bios

[sudden torrent]

Screenshot of a screenshot? Hmm. Not a bad idea actually. I'll keep that one in mind for next time.

[distant cedar]

i over clocked my cpu (ryzen 7 3700x) from 3.6ghz base speed to 4 ghz and i got like 5 degrees extra but wayy better score on cinebench

im using a noctua uh-12s

[lavish tundra]

single core perf might have dropped

[distant cedar]

oh ill chek on that

[prisma arch]

can u get it to 4.2 all core
not sure how zen 2 fares with overclocking

[distant cedar]

ill try

[prisma arch]

i wouldnt go past 1.4 volts
ever

[distant cedar]

thanks for the advice man

[zenith palm]

For ryzen 3000, you're most of the time better off using pbo btw, also what voltages are you using?

[zenith palm]

That's way too much

[distant cedar]

my core voltage is 1.25

[zenith palm]

Yeah i wouldn't really go much over that

[zenith palm]

Test with precision boost overdrive tho, basically like more aggressive boosting, helps with heat too

[prisma arch]

what board does he have

[zenith palm]

Doesn't matter that much 1.4 just isn't a safe voltage for ryzen 3000

[distant cedar]

msi B550 mpg

[prisma arch]

oh ok

[distant cedar]

i have mine on enhanced mode 2 in bios

i made my cpu base speed 4.2 ghz and i got a better score in cinebench should i go any higher or is that too risky

[zenith palm]

Enhanced mode in what?

[distant cedar]

bios

[tall pelican]

How you adjust trefi on amd?

[lavish tundra]

Fair point

[naive rapids]

Does anyone have some good settings for the rx 5700xt red devil it sounds like an aeroplane at every demanding game running 1440p

[short blade]

you can also just open bmp files in mspaint and save them as jpg/png

[dull ginkgo]

Just try to uv it manually and test it yourself

[lavish pecan]

Hmm, quick question, my ASUS motherboard has two PBO options, one under AI Tweaker and one under AMD Overclocking in the Advanced section. Is the one under Advanced the one I should be using?

[sudden torrent]

AI Tweaker is going to be more of a cookie cutter profile. You'll get better results and temps doing it yourself in Advanced.

[lavish pecan]

Ah, okay. The one in Advanced was what I was using, just want to make sure. Thanks

[zenith palm]

How's peoples opinions on buildzoids heavy 3060 ti mem uv btw?

[sudden torrent]

It makes some sense to me. The GPU isn't going to use as much of the memory bandwidth as it has available. It also wouldn't be the first time that a spec was over-designed compared to what was actually required.
The fact that he barely got any score improvement even after getting the memory stable at so much higher clock speed means it's all mostly pointless anyway, again because it's core limited and not memory limited.

[prisma arch]

base speed ok

[zenith palm]

Yeah figured, just thought it was really interesting that the performed practically the same with significantly less voltage

Wonder if it would be practical for mining 🤔

[lavish pecan]

Oof, my GPU spazzed while running 3DMark, checked Afterburner and the max power limit percentage had decreased by one.

[frail dock]

Need a software to control fans. Not using Corsair. All fans plugged into mother board.

[tall pelican]

Bios

[short blade]

if you'd like a software that can control case fans off of pretty much anything you can imagine and costs $14 for a permanent license, I can't recommend argus monitor enough

you can even set case fans to take the highest of multiple inputs and give each input a unique curve

and rename each header whatever you want

simply unrivaled for fan control

you can control case fans off of ssds, gpu, vram, cpu, ram, literally every temp sensor in your system

[sudden torrent]

That sounds insanely useful, I'd probably get that

How's the CPU usage though?

[sterile flame]

so im finally overclocking, and just wanna know what does it do exactly?

[sudden torrent]

Overclocking is so named because you're (usually) making the "clock" speed run over what the factory settings are. This can accelerate how fast it's able to complete a task.

[sterile flame]

so i made my 1660 ti (yes im going to upgrade it eventually) 140+ core clock, 1500+ memory clock, and 110% power limit, got a score of 4400 on furmark, is that good?

or should i push it further?

[sudden torrent]

+1500 on memory is unlikely to be stable, and furmark isn't a good benchmark. It's a stress test. Go for 3Dmark time spy, there's a free version.

[tall pelican]

try 3dmark, since furmark just tests power limits

[sterile flame]

Im doing 3d mark rn

https://i.gyazo.com/574091b7d3f2ad05f6d061028fb6a61b.png

is this good?/

[sudden torrent]

Yeah that's one of the top scores for people running with your CPU/GPU combo

Only a couple hundred points shy of the best

[sterile flame]

oh cool

i did overclock the gpu some

but good to hear

[short blade]

this is while running it really hard reading 3-4 controllers for each fan group with each controller having its own curve

really lightweight well optimized program

my ram is oc stable thanks to argus monitor lol i was able to ramp up case fans to prevent dimm temps from exceeding 55C

if you strap a fan to your ram for ocing b-die, this will let you actually control that fan so it becomes even more useful

must-have program for anyone strapping a fan to ram imo

[tall pelican]

or ya know, a temp probe on the ram, and bios control

[short blade]

my bios doesn't let me control fans based on ram speed even if i have temp sensors in my ram

maybe some other bios has it but i haven't seen it yet

[tall pelican]

you cant have fan speed based on a temp header?

[short blade]

nope

[tall pelican]

which mobo, so I know not to rec to anyone

[short blade]

maybe it's a feature limited to very high end boards

cause i haven't seen it on any mobo i've used lol

[tall pelican]

if you have a temp header, you can base fan speed off of it

if not, you have a broken bios

[short blade]

the highest end boards i've worked with didn't let you control fans based on ram temp

or gpu core/vram

z490 strix, x570 taichi

maybe i am just too poor

haven't seen it on the 30+ modern mobos i've worked with

[tall pelican]

both of my giga boards let me, asus b550xe and c8h both work too

giga boards are b550 master and z590 ultra

[short blade]

didn't see such an option on my b550 aorus elite

[tall pelican]

give me a sec to get into bios

[short blade]

those are significantly higher end boards aren't they

[tall pelican]

no

b550 is like $250 and ultra is like $300

[short blade]

yeahhh my mobo was $90

not trying to spend as much on a mobo as i do on cpu

out of the 30+ modern mobos i've worked with (b450/z370 and newer) only 2 exceeded $200 and neither of them could control case fans based on ram temp in bios

$14 software that lets you do it on whatever board you want still sounds good to me

i've seen bios fan control based on cpu, pch, and pcie x16 slot (why this exists is beyond me)

[tall pelican]

Sorry it took some time, kvm doesn't turn on fast enough to let me get into bios lmao

[short blade]

cool but i still don't think that's a standard feature

even if it was i think the $14 would be worth it for fan control based off of gpu sensors alone

[tall pelican]

It is if you spend 3 digits on a mobo

Super cheap mobos are expected to just be plugged in and turned on, never customized

[short blade]

most of the mobos i've used are 3 digits lol

just not nearly 300

that's how much my cpu cost

[tall pelican]

if it has a temp header, you can control fan speeds off of it

[short blade]

not seeing people talking about it online

idk even arshia said he was definitely going to check out argus monitor i'd imagine it's not a standard feature

[tall pelican]

I mean, if you really want in OS fan control, integral has one https://github.com/integralfx/SysFanControl

[short blade]

hmm

this looks pretty good

[finite frigate]

love how they yoinked the logo from speedfan

[barren ridge]

wait wait

i could use that

and pray it works on my lappy

ah rip it won't work on mine

[modern walrus]

Any obvious reason my temps were horrible with this waterblock?

[sudden torrent]

Are your pads the right height?

If they're too high, even by 0.5mm, contact with the core won't be as good

[modern walrus]

according to EK spec yes

I followed instructions to the t

Those pads came with it btw

and in 3070 waterblock stock pads never had single issue

[sudden torrent]

Any reason these don't have pads?

[modern walrus]

105c hot spot with only like +100

whoa

well

the only reasons are it either fell off when I opened it

which I will look

or I goofed & forgot it

which damn

the latter seems more likely

could that really account for the massively terrible temps?

btw is paste sufficient in your opinion?

[sudden torrent]

If the memory is getting too hot it'll throttle the card, and the heat will spread to the core

[modern walrus]

Also I noticed taking it apart that I may have been too conservative when tightening screws

[sudden torrent]

For the memory pads? Or the paste on the core?

[modern walrus]

core

pads no paste just spec

er pads supplied with block I mean

[sudden torrent]

Ah, looks like it could be a little better on the mounting pressure. Seems a little uneven, and there's a spot that didn't contact the block as much

[modern walrus]

I'm gonna add thermal paste

or should I clean it off & repaste you think?

using kingpin btw

[sudden torrent]

Ideally clean it off, but adding a little more and spreading it with a spudger or something would work. With a big die like that it's hard to get even spread even with the standard X pattern

At least clean off the block

[tall pelican]

looks like not enough pressure, still a visible layer of paste on the die and block

and for dies, dont just "X" it, you have to spread it over the entire die

[modern walrus]

sad thing is I attempted to spread it & failed miserably apparently

[sudden torrent]

Chalk that up to the mounting pressure then, or uneven spread

[modern walrus]

I'm sure that missed pad was a major factor no/

Thank you both btw

Too much?

Flash kind of exaggerates it

[sudden torrent]

No such thing as too much

Looks fine to me

[modern walrus]

Thanks a lot

I'm gonna close it up & make sure it's screwed down tight

Won't go crazy tho

I'm gonna screw down the four screws surrounding gpu first also

That way other screws can't potentially take pressure off

[sudden torrent]

I spotted this while browsing newegg, has anyone here heard of or used this brand? The timings are a joke but it's still interesting. https://www.newegg.com/neo-forza-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/0RN-0097-00036

I thought my kit was a meme kit at 19-23-23 but this takes the cake at 19-26-26

Yes it's still most likely b-die but that bin tho

[sterile flame]

forza? as in forza motorsport? lmao im joking

never heard of that brand before

[tall pelican]

cant have too much, only having too little

[short blade]

if there's "too much" it will just get pushed off to the sides which is completely harmless

[sudden torrent]

Exactly ^
It's harmless to surrounding parts because it's not electrically conductive

[modern walrus]

alright well thanks again

[tall pelican]

*as long as the paste you get isnt electrically conductive

[modern walrus]

I'm almost ready to add coolant again

[sudden torrent]

IE not liquid metal

[modern walrus]

It's kingpin kpx so not liquid metal

sucked to vacuum out my coolant when it was about 24 hours old

but beats useless waterblock

[tall pelican]

or ya know AS5

[modern walrus]

I didn't truly appreciate the waterblock until I put my 3070 back on stock cooler

Stock coolers are trash

for GPU at least

[tall pelican]

air is trash for gpus

[modern walrus]

when I saw hot spot at 105c I knew I messed up

I'm hoping for more like 60c once this is working correctly

[sudden torrent]

60 is aiming quite high

At least for hot spot

[modern walrus]

high in terms of ambition or temperature?

[sudden torrent]

Ambition

[modern walrus]

what does a "good" hotspot temp look like usually?

[sudden torrent]

65 hot spot is a more reasonable target I feel

Considering the rest of the core can be 10-15 degrees lower

[modern walrus]

ah okay

well sub-90 I'll be satisfied

I guess maybe I had unrealistic expectations for the dual D5 pump

[prisma arch]

im not sure if i have too much thermal paste

[sudden torrent]

Hard to tell in that pic, so to be safe just add more. But really it should be spread and not all clumped like that, you'd get air pockets.

[modern walrus]

alright well time to test

what is the deal with this crap?

[sudden torrent]

The deviation? Nothing to worry about

[modern walrus]

56% correct is a pretty bad grade lol

[sudden torrent]

It's not a good indicator of true accuracy

[modern walrus]

well as long as it's getting voltage right I think I'm okay

that's just deviation from actual power usage?

heck yes

[sudden torrent]

Hover over it and it gives a rundown

[modern walrus]

stock settings I'm at 52.1 max

on hot spot

[sudden torrent]

Is that with furmark or time spy?

[modern walrus]

Furmark GPU stress 8x MSAA

[sudden torrent]

That's really good then, I guess your pumps are working how you hoped

[modern walrus]

I was 104c at stock before

I didn't hit 80c on Cinebench

with TDC/EDC at 190amps

is it dumb to even set them so high?

[sudden torrent]

If your board can handle that much power on the VRM why not?

[modern walrus]

that's with changing a setting to 110% max board limit

you can go extreme to 130% of board limit

doubt I can cool that tho

[sudden torrent]

Now's the time to test and find out

[modern walrus]

+135 GPU clock I'm at 57.6 max

369w

[sudden torrent]

You'll be able to get that clock higher than before since it's more stable when it's cooler

[modern walrus]

I was worried 18awg was gonna be too small for 3080ti

but I have each feed on a single rail so it's okay you think?

[sudden torrent]

Probably fine yeah

[modern walrus]

i.e. 3x PSU connections

[sudden torrent]

You can run a stress test for a few hours and see if the cable gets hot

[modern walrus]

starting to worry if 850w PSU is gonna be enough

since CPU is basically idle rn

but I'm almost at 200w under load

[sudden torrent]

Benchmarks are a good start when testing that, but OCCT has a power test if you want to do that

It'll use the 3D test and the CPU test at the same time

[modern walrus]

oh ya that test is nuts

only time I've gotten up to 90c on CPU that I can recall

[prisma arch]

i can get 90 degrees with chrome open

[modern walrus]

maybe your paste does need to be redone

[prisma arch]

uh huh

[modern walrus]

er buy some more fans lol

what cooler do you have on GPU?

[prisma arch]

wait ur supposed to have fans on ur gpu

[modern walrus]

ya sometimes

[prisma arch]

not very good for rainy weather tho

[modern walrus]

I'll say

[sudden torrent]

Goals https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PnGbt6/

[modern walrus]

does g.skill have b-die?

both sets I have are hynix blah ones

[sudden torrent]

Yeah they use b-die all the time

[modern walrus]

mjr ajr I think

[sudden torrent]

Also c-die

[modern walrus]

maybe just not in the trident Z or whatever ones

[sudden torrent]

Not many other dies would take an XMP voltage of 1.55v

Also those timings are insane, I doubt rev.e could hit that

[modern walrus]

I've never taken the time to do RAM OC

I really should tho

Just seems like so many variables that it's nuts

[sudden torrent]

Just focus on a couple at a time and it's easier

[modern walrus]

Plus clearing CMOS everytime it goes bad is a pain

my 64gb set won't even go from 3800 to 3833 without crash

[sudden torrent]

Not every time, I've only needed to when I tightened tertiary timings too much

[modern walrus]

I dunno if my CPU can handle more than 1900 FCLK tho is probably why

[sudden torrent]

64GB is a lot harder to OC, lots of strain on the IMC

[modern walrus]

I have to clear CMOS after that

[sudden torrent]

1900 fclk is par for the course on 5000 series anyway

[modern walrus]

I thought about pumping voltage up since G.Skill suggests 1.4

but compared to B-die there doesn't seem to be nearly as much info availabe

[sudden torrent]

Do you know what die it is?

[modern walrus]

MJR

The CAS is 18 which is blah

Command is 1T which I think is good but I dunno that's pretty much the outer limits of my knowledge on memory

[sudden torrent]

That's a weird one all right

Guessing 16gbit because 64GB

[modern walrus]

haha ya

[sudden torrent]

I'm assuming you've seen the r/overclocking page on it?

[modern walrus]

and my 32gb set is ajr

which is another like uh?

supposedly it's better than c-die but not as good as b-die

I bumped it from 3200 to 3300 mhz without doing anything else & it runs fine

[sudden torrent]

AJR looks like it's binned for 3600 18-22-22

[modern walrus]

xmp puts it at 3200 16-18-18

see that's another thing I don't understand

which is better of those two?

[sudden torrent]

042 code ending in S820A?

[sudden torrent]

Yep, should do the 3600 easy enough

[modern walrus]

April 2021. Others in here weren't even sure what it was

but is 3600 18-22-22 better than 3200 16-18-18?

I asked if there was a formula for calculating which was better lol

[sudden torrent]

On Ryzen, higher clock is better first and foremost because fabric clock

[modern walrus]

good thing is it's on intel so I can have the last two numbers not match

[sudden torrent]

This is what gives the die away on g.skill

[modern walrus]

oh crap ya this is on Intel

the 64gb is on Ryzen

[sudden torrent]

Then on Intel higher clock can be good but cas is also important. Between the two I'd say the 3600 is better.

[modern walrus]

you think I can run that without changing any other settings?

I may have tried this before & it didn't work but I'll try it again

1.35v sufficient?

[sudden torrent]

You might need to bump the voltage a bit, and you'll want to do one timing at a time

First thing to do is set the timings really loose when you bump the speed

[modern walrus]

so like 20-24-24?

[sudden torrent]

Yeah that would do

Then you can try to drop the cas

[modern walrus]

Should I keep bumping until I crash or just enjoy 3600? lol

[sudden torrent]

3600 is about the peak you'd get good speed/latency ratio on that I think

You could try higher since intel doesn't mind odd numbers as much

[modern walrus]

alright I'll try it rn

I've been meaning to get to it

I have that RAM OC guide book marked too

This Aorus board doesn't need CMOS clear nearly as often as the ASUS one

I think the 64gb isn't gonna budge much but maybe after I do this one I'll try it since I'll have a better sense of what to do

The only way I thought I might see better results with the 64 is to reduce command rate from 1T to 2T

[sudden torrent]

CR2 will negate a lot of your gains

[modern walrus]

the 32 is 2T by default

[sudden torrent]

Eww

[modern walrus]

haha that bad huh?

[sudden torrent]

Being able to send commands only every other cycle instead of every cycle can make a huge difference

[modern walrus]

maybe that's why ajr sucks

[sudden torrent]

It's lighter on the IMC though, so it has its uses when you get into more extreme OC

[modern walrus]

I wonder if I could get to 1T on this set

probably have to do like 3000mhz 20-26-26 or something

[sudden torrent]

Probably not that bad

It's usually just a little less stable so you have to compensate with voltage to the uncore/SoC and such

[modern walrus]

ya see those are voltage settings I never touch because I have no idea what's low or extreme

The only time I've changed those settings was when Fitz recommended some

I have a profile saved in BIOS called Fitz so I don't forget them lol

[sudden torrent]

Fitz is a good source, better at Intel than me for sure

[modern walrus]

I saved those settings on the Ryzen. oops lol

[sudden torrent]

Nah he's still good at Ryzen too lol

[modern walrus]

I guess they're kinda pointless for it since it's at XMP

Dude knows everything. Like when he tells you stuff take notes or screen shot or something

[sudden torrent]

Not necessarily, there's times when things aren't even stable at XMP and you need to fix it with VDDP voltage or something

[modern walrus]

for some reason I had more success with CPU oc after putting those voltages in so I've kept them

[sudden torrent]

Makes perfect sense to me, the voltages affect more than just memory

[modern walrus]

it's crazy how complex it all is

I've only been able to isolate small parts & do that

I mean GPU is pretty easy

all core OC for intel is like mid level

PBO on Ryzen I must've spent 50 hours on by now

if not more

I have like 6 different spreadsheets of tweaking core offset magnitudes & crap

I was only ever to see 4600mhz+ on CB by doing core offset in addition to PBO's offsets

[orchid flame]

?????

PBO tuning is super easy too lol

GPU is FAR FAR more complex than you think it is

and ram is the coolest 🙂

[orchid flame]

actually

VDDP only interacts with ram

its memory PHY voltage

🙂

does nothing other than ram

[sudden torrent]

I was referring to more than just a single voltage

[clever epoch]

RevE doesn't do tRCD too well, so it for sure won't hit that.

[orchid flame]

well

yeah its not doing 7.5ns

but I have seen afair bit of 8.2ns Rev E lately

mainly binned C9BLM

so its getting close

[lavish tundra]

Glad to see you return to tech arshia!

[modern walrus]

PBO got a little complicated for me once I added additional core offset but I'm just a noob lol. GPU is more complex? not doubting you just wondering what I did wrong/omitted doing

I think it was relatively easy for me because thermals haven't been much of a concern

[orchid flame]

GPU is really simple if you want it to be

but supercomplicated if you want it to be

namely

VRAM Timings

[modern walrus]

should I cut voltage more?

[left blade]

Arshia#2457 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[modern walrus]

oh heck no that's possible? haha

[orchid flame]

its possible on some VRAM

yes

[modern walrus]

how would you even begin to do that?

er back up

how would I even know if it's possible on my vram?

[short blade]

arshia 😳

I know it's pretty easy to edit vram timings on polaris and navi 1x

anything else I'm not sure

[modern walrus]

so there's no graphics card BIOS you can enter the same way as you do for motherboard?

[short blade]

nope, and afaik nvidia vbios requires signature so if you want to use modded bios you have to put windows in driver test mode

or something like that

[modern walrus]

sounds complicated as hell but will it get rid of lhr on my 3080ti? lol

[short blade]

LHR is implemented into the hardware, not just a vbios lock

[modern walrus]

oh I thought since maybe the 3060 could unlock lhr with 470.05 driver that maybe there might be something like that for 3080ti

I must accept my 18 hash rate fate I suppose

[short blade]

18?

[modern walrus]

well ya unless I use crazy wattage

[short blade]

if you really want to mine on your 3080ti you should be able to push around 60 mh/s in kawpow or 80 mh/s in ethash using nbminer LHR partial unlock

kawpow is more profitable

[modern walrus]

the inefficiency to get a decent hash rate is the biggest deterrent as far as I can tell

[short blade]

should be around 300 watts on that card

[modern walrus]

hmm maybe I'll do that then

3070 gets 60hash at like 125w

[short blade]

tuned 3090s do 125 mh/s ethash with 300 watts

yeah

3060ti/3070 are the best mining cards

the higher you go the lower efficiency is

[modern walrus]

my 3060 was decent. 45-48 at 100w

[short blade]

however you also get to compress more hashrate per card

so you can build less mining rigs if you have a large multi card operation

so 3080/3090 is still desirable

3080 moreso

[modern walrus]

I need a way to mine externally since I couldn't fit 3070 & 3060 into same case

but the external things are like $300 or something crazy

[short blade]

they didn't bother making any 3090 LHR because miners are less interested in them than the lower cards

lol you don't need a rig

if you only have 2 cards you can just do this

[modern walrus]

I think that bottom card is the one I have (assuming it's 3060)

is that a motherboard they're sitting on tho?

I was trying to find a PCIe extension to hook up to the motherboard in the case

then I could power it independently with a 500w EVGA PSU I have

can it run fine with a x8 PCIe adapter?

[short blade]

they're both 3070s

yeah pcie x1 is enough

and yes they are in a spare b550 mobo I had that has 2 pcie x16 slots 3 spaces apart

I wanted to avoid buying risers and stuff

they'll become ewaste eventually

they're hooked up to a 650w psu which is pretty overkill but it was cheap

[modern walrus]

I definitely wanna avoid buying risers as much as possible

they're stupid expensive

[short blade]

I will eventually be able to put this all in a gaming pc

so no waste generated

[modern walrus]

once I get my RMA Z490 back I was gonna throw it in there to mine

[short blade]

3600x, b550 tuf, 16gb 3600c16, crucial p5 500gb, seasonic focus gm 650

[modern walrus]

well temporarily until I sell the whole thing

[short blade]

decent core for a gaming pc

might just leave a 3070 in it

[modern walrus]

thing is if I can find a way to hook it up to this other build I can avoid having to buy ram/CPU for now

that's not a bad setup at all

your spare is better than a lot of people's primary

[short blade]

solid 1440p setup for sure

well I have a lot of spare PCs and parts lying around lol

[modern walrus]

haha that's why I even started building this last pc i'm gonna sell

misc fans, motherboard, psu

If I keep them they'll end up obsolete junk

so might as well put them together

[short blade]

yeah i have a 5600x + 360 aio + 3733c14 build sitting on the shelf

[modern walrus]

well not the fans but everything else ya

[short blade]

was my old build

[modern walrus]

ya I had a CM 360 AIO

[short blade]

had one interested buyer that flaked on day of meetup

[modern walrus]

thought heck might as well use this

[short blade]

since then haven't gotten any interest

[modern walrus]

I really don't know how to go about selling

[short blade]

now i'm trying to source a 3060ti LHR to replace the 3070 FHR that it was paired with

so i can sell it for cheaper

[modern walrus]

Offerup is sketchy & ebay takes like half your profit

[short blade]

i been using facebook marketplace but lately feels like it's drying up

[modern walrus]

oh really? heck

well even if I let it go way cheaper than I'd like to

it's really all profit

or recouping losses at least

[short blade]

i'll buy you lunch for it

[modern walrus]

haha it's not even a computer yet

MSI just got the board on the 10th

which means I'll get it back by like December probably

10700K or 11600K?

I'm torn because I know 10700K is better

but I think 11600K might sound like it's better to the less knowledgeable since it's newer

[short blade]

nahh

i7 tax

a lot of users would pick an i7-860 over an i5-11600K

[modern walrus]

will do i7 then

Any recommendations for VCCIO, System Agent, or VCC Substained, PLL, PLL OC, VTT, STG, 18PCH, 1V8P voltages for memory oc?

[proven canopy]

Read the ddr4 guide

The overclocking wiki as well

[modern walrus]

will do thank you

so far 3200 16-18-18-38 is at 3600 17-22-22-42

baby steps

[faint tangle]

11600k is better value iirc

[modern walrus]

True but last time I checked the price difference was $20

[faint tangle]

11600k is better for gaming

Better single core performance

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Core-i7-10700K-vs-Core-i5-11600K

[proven canopy]

Lol, get the 10th gen

[faint tangle]

Why?

[modern walrus]

thanks I'll look into that. I was looking at it from the perspective of which would be more inviting to a potential buyer, but I think there's no clear answer because it would depend entirely on the buyer's knowledge

[proven canopy]

https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/10900k-vs-11900k/summary

Different chips - but same idea, comet lake comes out on top in most cases when both systems are tuned properly with their ideal ram config.

There are some games and use cases that will favor rocket lake, both stock and tuned, pick based on your use case.

[modern walrus]

5000D regular (not airflow)

was thinking I'd order airflow front once it's in stock. It's only $15

[faint tangle]

Why are you linking 10900k and 11900k when talking about 11600k and 10700k?

[proven canopy]

Read my comment

[faint tangle]

Same idea doesn't really relate

Even if it's same gens the performance is different

[dull ginkgo]

Although I was under the impressive rkl imc was better?

[proven canopy]

Only for a hwbot use case

[dull ginkgo]

Ah

[proven canopy]

Can't do more than 3733 c14 gear 1 really

You can see faris's gear 2 testing at 4800c18

[dull ginkgo]

But tbf ipc gains might help from 10700k to 11600k, would like to specific tests on those two chips specifically

[modern walrus]

is 3200-16-18-18-38 better than 3600-17-20-20-40? I have no idea how to compare

[short blade]

3600 17-20-20-40 is better if running at xmp

if not then it depends on the die

sometimes kits are capable of a lot better than their loose xmp profile

[wheat ether]

lol

[zenith peak]

lmoa

[modern walrus]

ajr meh

not running xmp. My weak attempt at OC lol

[modern walrus]

https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/with-hyper-v-busclock-and-pcieclock-less-then-100-mhz.5604/

[proven canopy]

Results from last night https://hwbot.org/submission/4817228_forks_superpi___32m_core_i9_10900k_4min_17sec_991ms
https://hwbot.org/submission/4817223_forks_hwbot_x265_benchmark___1080p_core_i9_10900k_128.448_fps

Going to rebench 32m on xp, efficiency is definitely better on stripped 7 vs win 10 though

[daring olive]

Nice. 5th globally... sweet

[dull ginkgo]

what about stripped win10?

[proven canopy]

Yeah - x265 1080p isn't super competitive though, x265 4k is - will do that eventually

[proven canopy]

Stripping 10 doesn't do much - and to be fair, barely does anything on 7 in itself, but optimizations for 32m are more important

[dull ginkgo]

ah

[proven canopy]

Stripping 10 might help if you were benching on a core 2 duo for a multicore bench

But when you have 10 cores / 20 threads at 6.7 - the OS doesn't take much cpu time

[dull ginkgo]

hm

[steel zephyr]

Go Chiller sent me 4 liters of their graphene nano particle coolant for free to test. It showed up today. It might be a week before I get to do any testing with it. I'm going to run a bunch of tests with distilled water first. Then the same tests with the Go Chiller fluid.

[worldly wasp]

what

[left blade]

fbi.matt#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[worldly wasp]

this website

sucks

cant wait for some more rocketlake copium

[faint tangle]

10700k isnt better than 5800x lmao

[worldly wasp]

just because you say it isnt true doesnt mean its not

the 10700K and 5800X trade blows

within margin of error

[faint tangle]

@dull ginkgo

[worldly wasp]

however, the 10700K gaps the 11600K

certain games prefer ryzens cache (notably CSGO) and in those games zen 3 pulls ahead

other games prefer the lower latency of the cometlake, and in those game cometlake pulls ahead

[faint tangle]

it seems i am incorrect

[worldly wasp]

but almost no games prefer the higher latency on rocketlake, the lower clockspeeds of rocketlake, the smaller cache of rocketlake

[proven canopy]

Except superpi

[worldly wasp]

superpi go to cascade lake

[proven canopy]

What if that's my favorite game

[worldly wasp]

or w-3175X

ice lake X when

oh and to reiterate on the clockspeeds

However, while I could boot at 5.0 GHz, it wasn't stable for any serious workload. Even 4.9 GHz turned out to be unstable in Prime95—other apps worked fine. So I settled for 4.8 GHz with slightly over 1.4 V.
and its not

4.8ghz 1.4v

The Core i7-10700K comes with an unlocked multiplier, so overclocking is effortless, as you can set the desired CPU frequency directly. Getting higher clocks out of the the Core i7-10700K was easier than with the Core i7-10900K because heat wasn't such a big problem, and the CPU won't run into various power limits as quickly. With my Noctua NH-U14S and 1.4 V, temperatures were high but manageable, although right at the edge of thermal throttling.

The maximum overclock of 5.1 GHz was very easy to reach and incredibly stable. I feel like the voltage could be dropped a bit further to improve efficiency and heat output. 5.2 GHz was almost stable on air with the same voltage, only the most demanding tests failed from time to time, so I settled on 5.1 GHz. Using a 240 mm AIO, 5.2 GHz was stable, too, because that solution is able to more efficiently move heat away from the CPU.
5.1-5.2ghz 10700k 1.4

ofc

silicon lottery etc etc.

[proven canopy]

cascade is terrible for 32m lol

[worldly wasp]

really?

interesting

[proven canopy]

You're probably thinking ycruncher

32m is x87

[worldly wasp]

but yeah coffee generally has a 200mhz lead in clockspeeds

i dont do boomer benches
wheres muh cinebench

[proven canopy]

It was written by some japanese lady in the 90s

[worldly wasp]

lol

i mean all the CPU boomer benchmarks are just relatively simple math stuff

things that CPUs have been optimized the heck out of to do

bye

[left blade]

fbi.matt#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[faint tangle]

calc is the devils work and i refuse to hear otherwise

[worldly wasp]

wait what did i get wanred for

[faint tangle]

you said the f word

[worldly wasp]

oh

imma get kicked again sowwy

[dull ginkgo]

Wat you want

[faint tangle]

nvm

[dull ginkgo]

Aight

[faint tangle]

download mis aterburner

wow i cant spell at all

msi afterburner*

[bleak nimbus]

@faint tangle can u join vc?

[faint tangle]

not right now

prolly not tn at all

currently playing valorant in a vc

[prisma arch]

OC software hmmm

ok

[tall pelican]

oh hey matt finally found this server

[worldly wasp]

[short blade]

was wondering why his pfp looked familiar

no wonder

saw him in overclocking discord when i was messing with my rev. e

[storm wedge]

how to overclock my legs to run at 30kmph

[sudden torrent]

Move to Africa and poke a sleeping lion. Run away. Repeat every day for 20 years.

[lavish tundra]

if you wanna try LN OC then poke the lion while its awake

[rigid isle]

Oc to + 8 ghz

[twilit hedge]

Old news

[proven canopy]

@sterile flame Cool build #build-pics message

What kind of temps/heatload can it handle?

[finite frigate]

heheh gpu slidr go uuuuuuuuup

[worldly wasp]

that is a cool build

i presume when the chiller is connected the radiators are not?

[tall pelican]

oh hey Im having to hard line one of those at work rn

[modern walrus]

I'm finally doing memory OC the way the guide recommends. Feels like I have a looooong way to go

btw I think the consensus was before that my sticks were hynix ajr but from what I found ending in 20A means they're like AFR

but I had to translate from Chinese to get the info & wow does Microsoft do a mediocre job of translating