fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:07 AM

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I'm about to turn canned air upside down

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LMFAO

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:07 AM

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lol

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i have like 300ish cfm on my card

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and an ac

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lol

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:07 AM

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It's actually staying really cool

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Less that 35c

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CPU didn't get past 110F

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:08 AM

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with all my cooling my card wasnt getting too hot

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around 70c

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:08 AM

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I have (4) pny 3070 I need to test and see if they are better LMFAO

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:10 AM

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seems floppin

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Nevermind lol

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I doubt they are good at all though haha

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:14 AM

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Would easily beat my graphics score if you flash the msi vbios, my tuf was 100% stock

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:15 AM

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proven canopy Would easily beat my graphics score if you flash the msi vbios, my tuf was 100% ...

MSI VBIOS on an EVGA card?

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Oh, the power limit yeah?

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:16 AM

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yes

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Mine was a TUF

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:16 AM

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might play around with that some day

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They're so hard to get I'm not sure I want to tinker without a backup

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Not worth it tbh lol

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Exactly

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Not in your daily at least

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:17 AM

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I'm happy with how it is but I might see if I can push it a bit more

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I can def push CPU more, that score was just with PBO and stock power limits

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:17 AM

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quick rose MSI VBIOS on an EVGA card?

You have crossbar support?

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:17 AM

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A what?

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Oh, you mean Resizable BAR?

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Yeah lol

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Derped that

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Yeah and that score was also done on a PCI-E 3.0 link

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4.0 won't make a difference though

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I can't remember if Resize bar was on or not but I don't think it matters for benching either

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:19 AM

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quick rose I can def push CPU more, that score was just with PBO and stock power limits

Throw in a 5900x when you need it

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With some DR bdie

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:19 AM

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I don't think the 5900x is worth $550 TBH

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Hence I haven't bought one

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:20 AM

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but cpu go BRRR

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:20 AM

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Ye it does

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I'm probably gonna pop for AM5 when it comes out

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Rather than go to 5000 series

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:21 AM

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i hope 1700 has something epic

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:21 AM

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We will see

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Rumors have a 20% IPC over 5000 series

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Im' more curious to see what DDR5 brings

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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What's crazy is that I cut the case open and modified the poo out of it to make the GPU fit

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It's literally on the PSU

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Can it breathe? lol

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Yeah haha

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Just not that fan

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Other two plus the front

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:26 AM

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quick rose I don't think the 5900x is worth $550 TBH

it is if you get a good bin

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otherwise stinky

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decent bit of chips can get 5.1 maybe 5.2

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spicy though

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:27 AM

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proven canopy Can it breathe? lol

That is around back underneath lol

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I haven't seen it above 40c

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:28 AM

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That's very low for full load

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:29 AM

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sterile flame it is if you get a good bin

nah, value is good regardless

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:29 AM

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I have fans at Max and other pumping. But it was higher at lower fan speeds. Like 44-48c

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:30 AM

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what case

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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Nzxt h210

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Tiny AF

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:33 AM

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damn

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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sterile flame what case

clever epoch Jun 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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jesus

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:34 AM

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I took a Dremel and an oscillating tool and chopped it up internally

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:35 AM

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3060 or 3070 strix

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:35 AM

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sterile flame 3060 or 3070 strix

3070 lol

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:35 AM

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i would try to move the motherboard standoffs up tbh

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just a couple mm

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:36 AM

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It won't move. But temps are great

quick rose Jun 7, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Rather invest into am5

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If its a flop ill get a 5900x

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:36 AM

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likely won't be

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the LGA leaks were supposed to be 1700 something

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:37 AM

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quick rose Rather invest into am5

I want to use them but since Intel sponsored I can't complain

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:37 AM

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sterile flame the LGA leaks were supposed to be 1700 something

1716

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thats am5

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and intel is 1700

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:37 AM

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ye

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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I wish amd would remove the pins though

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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they are going to next gen

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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they are

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Really?

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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yeah

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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yeah

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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Nice

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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amd is lga 1716

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intel is just 1700

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

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1700 is still a lot

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I have some 1366 and it's huge lol

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:39 AM

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waiting for amd to actually be 1701 lol

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:39 AM

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probably gonna be some kind of modding to make it work at some point

finite frigate Jun 7, 2021, 1:39 AM

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lol

sterile flame Jun 7, 2021, 1:39 AM

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or try atleast

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:40 AM

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I just want my Samsung 980 pro 2tb in triple raid zero LMFAO

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 1:42 AM

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No you don't

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 1:57 AM

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proven canopy No you don't

Lol

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6600 is plenty

tall pelican Jun 7, 2021, 2:16 AM

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fierce jungle I wish amd would remove the pins though

the pga is better on smaller pin count cpus, since they're incredibly easy to clean

fierce jungle Jun 7, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Got to 28 lol
Then to 20. Lol

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I'm working my way up there

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Damn it's my CPU causing issues of scoring higher. Wonder what I'm missing

proven canopy Jun 7, 2021, 5:05 AM

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You should hwbot

zenith palm Jun 7, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Wait really? I thought it put it back to stock if you didn't have it open

zenith palm Jun 7, 2021, 9:39 AM

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quick rose Im' more curious to see what DDR5 brings

That 1st gen ddr5 tax tho gonna be spensive

dark ferry Jun 7, 2021, 11:21 AM

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Especially if someone figures out how to mine crypto on RAM.

hardy dune Jun 7, 2021, 2:10 PM

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dark ferry Especially if someone figures out how to mine crypto on RAM.

Well if that happens were pretty much screwed

lavish tundra Jun 7, 2021, 2:39 PM

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hardy dune Well if that happens were pretty much screwed

not really

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also y react to ur own message lol

zenith palm Jun 7, 2021, 2:53 PM

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dark ferry Especially if someone figures out how to mine crypto on RAM.

Ram doesn't do computation fyi so unless it was a ram chia competitor lol

barren ridge Jun 7, 2021, 2:54 PM

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^

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Anything crypto related won't be using ram for loooong

lavish tundra Jun 7, 2021, 4:07 PM

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zenith palm Ram doesn't do computation fyi so unless it was a ram chia competitor lol

even in that case, only the very high capacity sticks would go out of stock and the very fast stuff

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average consumers like gamers shouldnt see too much of a problem

zenith palm Jun 7, 2021, 5:20 PM

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Exactly

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 1:59 AM

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I got to the 13th spot lol

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Working my way up haha

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 2:24 AM

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fierce jungle Working my way up haha

Ice water bucket
Thank me later

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:26 AM

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sudden torrent Ice water bucket Thank me later

Haha I'm working with a 120mm aio in an itx case. I'm impressed at what it's doing already. If I hit top 10 I'm happy 😁

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Especially with you doing a 120mm, ICE BUCKET
Take the fan off the radiator and drop the rad into the bucket, agitate it while benching, and see your score shoot up

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Haha I'm scared lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Watch your humidity, if the dewpoint is high enough you'll end up with condensation on the electrical bits

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I just swapped it to all core ratio. I am hoping that's going to help

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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That said - rad in an ice bucket is somewhat common way for people to bench their daily for hwbot points

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Why? You're not even breaking the loop to do the ice bucket

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Yeah I'm in Louisiana. Humidity is stupid anyways lmfao

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:30 AM

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proven canopy That said - rad in an ice bucket is somewhat common way for people to bench thei...

I want true test tbh. Just like it is.

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Ooh man

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It scored higher

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Top 5

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😱😱😱😱😱

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https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=2839&gpuId=1342&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

3DMark.com

3DMark.com search

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wait all my speeds/scores are the highest beside cpu score. what the heck lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Is your cpu running stock

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:34 AM

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proven canopy Is your cpu running stock

heck no. its 5260 mhz all cores all ratios

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well atleast what it says its doing

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:34 AM

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What did you set in bios

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Did you max out power limits?

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:35 AM

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no power is pretty minimal imo

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proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:35 AM

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What is that software

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What do you have set in bios

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For ratio, bclk, pl1, pl2 etc

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:36 AM

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is the cheapo asrock software lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Oh, why is your bclk 103mhz

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Yeah don't use any of that

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:36 AM

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well im a newb lol

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and what should the bclk be set at?

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:36 AM

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What is this

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@tall pelican have you seen anything like this

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:37 AM

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proven canopy What is this

is that bad? lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 2:37 AM

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My 5800X beats your 11900k score, you can do better lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:37 AM

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i see other 11900k score beat mine up. not sure what its doing haha

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temp maybe

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Is this some kind of auto-oc from the asrock software?

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:39 AM

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proven canopy Is this some kind of auto-oc from the asrock software?

no i manually did it. from other videos and forums a little at a time. why? i usually just use asus and let it auto and never have issue lol

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you're worrying me

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Most of those settings don't make sense to me - why 51 core, 45 cache, 103 bclk, 1.6+v etc, can't be right

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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proven canopy Most of those settings don't make sense to me - why 51 core, 45 cache, 103 bclk,...

i tried looking for some examples of what to use but i have seen any that were good so far. 46/47 cache crashes it. 52 will run but the offset made it higher than i would like.

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NEWB sorry.

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Leave bclk at 100 for the most part

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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ooh that was auto btw

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Examples on the net are ok as a starting point but really doing it yourself is the best result

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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use cpuz or hwinfo64 to show what you're running

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 2:41 AM

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That said impressive result for auto

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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uhhhhh not sure what software that is, but sounds like VID

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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i have hwinfo running

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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5.3 on my 10900kf VIDs to like 1.7

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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vid would make sense, but also wouldn't surprise me if some assrock software auto'd that lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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i read 11900k loves voltage

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 2:42 AM

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if you dont set the voltage, VR Vout reads VIDs

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also if its with 3.3v, 5v and 12v, I'm assuming its reading off a superio

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:43 AM

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proven canopy vid would make sense, but also wouldn't surprise me if some assrock software aut...

well there isnt much to it. ill send another ss

#

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that all you can change within it. i assumed i had to use their software to control it? is there a better software to use?

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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bios

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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Overclock with the bios alone

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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i did that at first but was having ram issues. i guess i start at it again

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 2:45 AM

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yeah that 1.62 is def off a vid since 1.52+.1

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and 1.52 is stock vid table

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 2:46 AM

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i increased the voltage some

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i think my mobo is the issue. but due to the only itx with dual NICs it was the only choice at the moment

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:05 AM

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proven canopy Overclock with the bios alone

Thank you

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:05 AM

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tall pelican bios

and thank you

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lol yes it did it

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https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=2839&gpuId=1342&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

3DMark.com

3DMark.com search

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and GOT IT. Thanks man

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Nice! Top score for your config! I'd say there's still room to improve it but that's still great

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:08 AM

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definitely cpu can get better.

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gpu is pretty maxed out.

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:09 AM

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Yeah 11900k should be able to beat a 5800X, you're a little over 100 points under my CPU score so keep it up, I want to see you beat it

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:10 AM

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sudden torrent Yeah 11900k should be able to beat a 5800X, you're a little over 100 points unde...

haha it should. still worried about the 120mm aio.

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no complaints here though. dog poo mobo and cooling

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:10 AM

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Yep you make do with what you got, you've done pretty well so far

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:11 AM

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this look better @tall pelican @proven canopy ?

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Use cpuz

quick rose Jun 8, 2021, 3:12 AM

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That does look better

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:12 AM

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Bjohnson who formerly had the #1 score has a 13734 CPU score, shoot for that

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:14 AM

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proven canopy Use cpuz

sorry, for what? freqs?

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 3:14 AM

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Yes

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:14 AM

#

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also i apologize. i have always used auto OC'ing. I just do a good job at building lol

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Anyone actually try doing per core OC?

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Yes on my 5800X, pretty decent results

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:48 AM

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It's not hard because of the voltage? or can you set per core voltage?

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:49 AM

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PBO takes care of most of it tbh, I've got a -0.0125v offset and each core in curve optimizer has a different setting

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I get over 5GHz on every core

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:49 AM

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okay I gotta find where to mess with that in MSI

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I put the three hottest cores at 49, 3 medium cores at 50, & 4 coolest cores at 51

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so far

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haven't tried it yet

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:51 AM

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10 cores? You're on a 10900k?

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:51 AM

#

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Yes sir. That look about right?

#

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Going based on my little test

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I'm just worried about LLC. like how can say Core 9 at 51 have enough voltage to not throw L0s when Core 4 is at 49? Won't 49 have too much voltage and end up running hot?

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 3:53 AM

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fierce jungle and GOT IT. Thanks man

niiiice

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:54 AM

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I have stable 50 ratio OC at 1.290 on LLC mode 3 but I don't think that's enough voltage for a 51 ratio

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ah to heck with it. Let's just boot up & see what happens

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I see a GSOD in my future

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 3:57 AM

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You lost me at Intel, sorry man. I mainly OC on AMD.

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:59 AM

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well time for some good old trial and error

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I have a 10900k on a z490 e gaming from Asus.

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 3:59 AM

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weird HWiNFO shows all cores at 49

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 3:59 AM

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I can test some thing tomorrow.

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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I have 10900K on Z490 MSI

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sounds great thanks

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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i have an old xeon

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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I haven't used msi in years.

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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finite frigate i have an old xeon

Same as well lol

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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v

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:00 AM

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well what in tarnation... all cores show 49 ratio

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this is bananas

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I did somethign wrong

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 4:01 AM

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you could try XTU or smth so you dont have to go to bios

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:02 AM

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I think I might do that because I'm tired of restarting my computer 899999x

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ahh

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I think I know why

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wait no that's voltage mode. That doesn't help

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I'm still gonna try offset mode

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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finite frigate you could try XTU or smth so you dont have to go to bios

That was the problem before though, bios is giving better results

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

#

o

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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finite frigate v

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 4:03 AM

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oh yeah

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2620 is like what 6c

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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sudden torrent That was the problem before though, bios is giving better results

Yes lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Task Manager isn't reliable for frequency checking

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Use hwinfo

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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what's a clockgen features? lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:04 AM

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finite frigate 2620 is like what 6c

Dual 6 cores brand new for 1500 bucks. Dells

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:05 AM

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What’s best ram over clocking guide/video

quick rose Jun 8, 2021, 4:05 AM

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sterile flame What’s best ram over clocking guide/video

#overclocking message

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:06 AM

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still shows 49 on every core. what the heck

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Your the guy who told me trident z royal or something was better than a 3600 c14 14 14 1.4v kit

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:07 AM

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sterile flame Your the guy who told me trident z royal or something was better than a 3600 c14...

Gskill is king imo. But I only buy them so. Biased lol

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:07 AM

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Yes that’s he said

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Gskill

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:08 AM

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I have literally bought over 2500 sticks of gskill ram

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:08 AM

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are you heavily ocing it

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:09 AM

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No mostly xmp.

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:09 AM

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Yes

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So

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:09 AM

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What's Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology?

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:09 AM

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I'm newb in OC'ing. Building and auto set is what I do lol

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:10 AM

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I’m learning OCing atm

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Buying this ram

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I gotta do like 20 different timings

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:10 AM

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modern walrus What's Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology?

Speedstep off
speed shift on

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:10 AM

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thanks. That's the default setting apparently

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Speedstep is more a heat/freq factor

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:11 AM

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For CPU Core Voltage Monitor VCC Sense or Socket Sense?

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:11 AM

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sterile flame I gotta do like 20 different timings

Use auto for everything and then try speed manual.

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:12 AM

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Yea...

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:12 AM

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modern walrus For CPU Core Voltage Monitor VCC Sense or Socket Sense?

Socket sense must be something MSI?

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Is a $300 10850k the best cpu I can get for that price

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:13 AM

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sterile flame Your the guy who told me trident z royal or something was better than a 3600 c14...

Of course the Royals are better lol, there shouldn't be any dispute there at all

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Must be I dunno. I'm leaving it on default. Man I just cannot figure out why it only shows the lowest core ratio as the ratio for all cores

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:14 AM

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sudden torrent Of course the Royals are better lol, there shouldn't be any dispute there at all

no not royals

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Also u don’t even know what speed eathier

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So not sure how ur saying that

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I’m not even gonna argue with people anymore about the ram in this discord

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Sure but who's buying 3200 Royals

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Royals are just the heat spreader design, decide based on the xmp rating / results reported by others, check out fitz's spreadsheet in the pins

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:15 AM

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No clue

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No

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I mis spoke

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Not royals

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For the third time

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But Nevermind that no sense in arguing about it since I have my own opinion and answer

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Is a $300 10850k the best cpu I can get for that price

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:17 AM

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sterile flame Is a $300 10850k the best cpu I can get for that price

That's cheap so sure lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Perfect mid range high fps gaming cpu tbh

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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sudden torrent Of course the Royals are better lol, there shouldn't be any dispute there at all

Everyone else likes dominators lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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sudden torrent Sure but who's buying 3200 Royals

4000+ lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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fierce jungle Everyone else likes dominators lol

No

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Unless you're talking ddr3

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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proven canopy No

YouTube sorry lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:18 AM

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That said, some of the best b-die is ripjaws v lol, a very plain heatspreader design

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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proven canopy That said, some of the best b-die is ripjaws v lol, a very plain heatspreader de...

😂

sterile flame Jun 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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fierce jungle That's cheap so sure lol

Well I can oc it into the 5s, just didn’t know if there’s some ryzen competitor to it or something I’d have to check out but since it’s $100 off probably not yea

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:19 AM

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fierce jungle 😂

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That's correct lol

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Should I just settle for a 5800x on my other build? I want the 5900x but it's basically $600

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:20 AM

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Hardly a "settle" lol, especially for gaming

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:20 AM

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I always say spend what your wallet can handle

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:21 AM

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My 5800X is fantastic, competes with the 11900k nicely

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Pretty sure it demolishes everything rocket lake when both are properly tuned

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In gaming at least

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Maybe not "demolishes" but it should be ahead

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Unless you push rocket lake to 400w lmfao

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:22 AM

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If done right 11900k can beat the 5800X, especially in memory tuning, but if you're not an extremophile like us easy AMD win

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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I'm just going all in with a custom loop build & it feel like I'm holding out on the most important part by not doing 5900x

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then again I am using a 3070 so maybe that's about right anyway

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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modern walrus I'm just going all in with a custom loop build & it feel like I'm holding out on...

5950x then

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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haha that thing is like $1k

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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The difference between 5800X and 5900X in gaming is really kinda small for how much price difference there is

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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the darn EK waterblock for the GPU was $300

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:23 AM

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Better use Samsung 980 pro. Dont skimp on them

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:24 AM

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Nah bro P31 beats that in random IO

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:24 AM

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sudden torrent Nah bro P31 beats that in random IO

Warranty bro lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:24 AM

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980 pros are cursed lol, lot of firmware issues, do you actually need the write endurance and mixed i/o?

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:24 AM

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I've never had a Samsung fail. Still rocking 950s lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:25 AM

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Run CDM, post screenshot

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Me neither and I think I have 30+ samsung ssd's running

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:25 AM

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I've had adata, wd fail

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:25 AM

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I've never had a single SSD fail except a couple of second gen Mushkins with bad controllers

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:25 AM

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Only ssd I've had fail out of 50+ was an OCZ from 2011

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:25 AM

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Don't remember if I've used others yet

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:26 AM

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sudden torrent I've never had a single SSD fail except a couple of second gen Mushkins with bad...

Didn't hp ssds use those same controllers? Asking because I have one lol

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:26 AM

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I put a Sabrent rocket for the NVMe

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:26 AM

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Just go by windshields's list

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:26 AM

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fierce jungle Didn't hp ssds use those same controllers? Asking because I have one lol

I don't think so? Let me double check

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:27 AM

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proven canopy Run CDM, post screenshot

Damn acronyms lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:27 AM

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https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskMark

Downloading File /75252/CrystalDiskMark8_0_2.zip - CrystalDiskMark ...

Free download page for Project CrystalDiskMark's CrystalDiskMark8_0_2.zip.CrystalDiskMark is benchmark software that measures the transfer speed of media data storage drive such as HD, SSD, USB...

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:28 AM

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fierce jungle Didn't hp ssds use those same controllers? Asking because I have one lol

HP drives are using Silicon Motion controllers yes but an updated version from the ones I had that failed

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Old one was SM2246EN that failed, newer HP drives are using SM2259

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:29 AM

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proven canopy https://crystalmark.info/redirect.php?product=CrystalDiskMark

Gotcha lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:31 AM

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sudden torrent Old one was SM2246EN that failed, newer HP drives are using SM2259

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Need to inspect this one

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sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:31 AM

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Grab the model number while you're in CDM

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:32 AM

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I removed it to install the new one. PC poor over here lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Well if it's not in use it won't fail, just don't short it from all the dust when you try to use it again lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Haha. I'm going to run cinnamon Linux and compile android from it

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So it will get use. Just didn't want to destroy the os until I was done

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Linux is really light on the writes, it'll be fine

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:34 AM

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It's got triple m.2s as well

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not bad

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:41 AM

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proven canopy Run CDM, post screenshot

i assume you meant on the 980?

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:42 AM

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yes, and hey, that looks great

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Tons of 980 pro users are seeing a fraction of the r/w speeds they should be

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:42 AM

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i bet the 970 evo in here is less lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:42 AM

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Nice iops on that 4k shallow write

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:43 AM

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Honestly surprised to see 99 rand 4k q1t1

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:43 AM

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its kinda strange to see this cheap mobo perform decently lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:44 AM

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Cheap doesn't have to mean bad. You said it was ITX right? A lot of those are better than ATX boards

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:44 AM

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yeah its an asrock z590m-itx/ax

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needed those dual nics since only one pcie

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:45 AM

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Probably one of the few good Asrock Z590 boards from the look of things

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:45 AM

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What kind of use case needs dual nics on itx

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:45 AM

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they just released the gaming one. thought about getting it.

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:46 AM

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proven canopy What kind of use case needs dual nics on itx

local san drive. but then added two sans lol

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so now 10gbe switch will be fine lmfao

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i wanted the small form so i can sit the iscsi near it

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 4:47 AM

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10g over copper outside of the rack is silly

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:48 AM

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its a foot away or two

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hell cat8 is out now lol 40gbe haha

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It was an office machine build then decided to keep 10900k as the office machine

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:49 AM

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I don't know of any user-grade boards that support cat8 lol

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:49 AM

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sudden torrent I don't know of any user-grade boards that support cat8 lol

Me either lol. Fiber cards is what we use

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2.5gbe is standard in gaming boards lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 4:50 AM

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Well it's becoming standard at least

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:50 AM

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okay well my searches are finding that per core OC doesn't work on MSI Z490 boards...

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https://www.overclock.net/threads/msi-meg-z490-ace-unify-overclocking-club.1748968/page-18#:~:text=PER CORE doesn't seem to work on MSI's,does indeed work%2C at least on the Unify).

Overclock.net

MSI MEG Z490 ACE & UNIFY Overclocking Club

Hi guys I'm new here.

I'm building a new pc for my new Sim Racing Rig mostly I will play Assetto Corsa and Iracing

I'm using the Z-490 UNIFY & I9 10900K I'm not planning to overclock for now as I'm not to a computer savvy for that, so maybe in the future.

I have a few questions as I'm still...

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:51 AM

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modern walrus okay well my searches are finding that per core OC doesn't work on MSI Z490 boar...

All core is awesome lol

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:51 AM

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ya but I can't get it to run any higher than a 50 ratio

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which is lame

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:51 AM

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Any beta bios?

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:52 AM

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still hitting 94 on core 4 & 6 at 50 on CB

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:52 AM

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modern walrus which is lame

Which is weird because I get 5.1 easily

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:52 AM

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which is ridiculous

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ya & I have all sorts of ridiculous cooling going on

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I even replaced my CoolerMaster 360 AIO with a Freezer II

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and no luck

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:52 AM

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But 1050w pwr with 280mm rad

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Oh 360

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Dang

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:53 AM

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ya it's bananas

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:53 AM

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I'll send you a pic and see if it helps

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:53 AM

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I took a 4" hole saw to the shroud just to blast air up to the AIO

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You leave your AVX offset & Ring Ratio on Auto?

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Even if I do that though, at 51 I'm hitting TJ max

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or if I'm not hitting TJMAX

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I'm dropping L0s

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that's IF i get past GSOD

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 4:57 AM

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Damn I'll do more testing on the actual 10900k tomorrow

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 4:57 AM

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Thanks. I'm gonna see if I can make sense of Turbo Ratio Mode to try to achieve the same effect as per core

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but I don't see where I can pick which cores get the offsets

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so my luck if I put 51 it'll assign it to Core 4 & 6 which are my worst for thermals

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:01 AM

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Remoted In at pulled up hwinfo

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 5:02 AM

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must be I just got the shaft in the lottery

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 5:04 AM

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Not exactly the shaft, if you can hit 5 GHz you're above average

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:05 AM

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Here's some info from xtu

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proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:06 AM

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sudden torrent Not exactly the shaft, if you can hit 5 GHz you're above average

Sure - but only by SL's binning procedures

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Silicon lottery?

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 5:06 AM

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True enough, but they haven't done anything too crazy

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 5:06 AM

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fierce jungle Silicon lottery?

https://siliconlottery.com/pages/statistics

Silicon Lottery

Historical Binning Statistics

Historical binning statistics from Silicon Lottery

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:07 AM

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Thought so. I benchmark all our cpus and keep the best as well lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 5:09 AM

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fierce jungle

Fix that memory, it says you're at 2933 C18

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 5:11 AM

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fierce jungle

OH GOD

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armor card

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ewwwwww

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:11 AM

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sudden torrent Fix that memory, it says you're at 2933 C18

That might be right lol. I built it last year and wasn't too worried. I think it's 3200

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 5:11 AM

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feels bad

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:11 AM

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finite frigate ewwwwww

I needed 5 outputs. No gaming on this one

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 5:12 AM

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was gonna say wanna have an oc off but with that piece of garb model you wouldbnt compete

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:12 AM

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finite frigate ewwwwww

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It's the left machine

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Right machine is 7940x lol

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 5:15 AM

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i see

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yeah

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i thought it was an armor card in your tiktok

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but from the vid it looked like a gaming xx

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:15 AM

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It's more of a VM/compiling machine

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 5:15 AM

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yeah

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:15 AM

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Right was gaming. But upgraded

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 5:15 AM

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those armor cards were uhh

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not good

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thermal throttled at stock

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even in ideal airflow conditions

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Mindblown

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I came to see what this chat was saying to my guy Milk about the ram kits

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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pulsar flint Mindblown

haha who pinged you about it

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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No one did

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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pulsar flint I came to see what this chat was saying to my guy Milk about the ram kits

Gskill is best for sure. Imo at least

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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He told me and I decided to show up myself no one asked me y I do anything

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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oh nvm misread

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:17 AM

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To do*

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 5:23 AM

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good lawd

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Did we (I) do something wrong/bad. I reread and might have missed something?

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 5:24 AM

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well apparently I have a BIOS update. Maybe it'll make MSI suck a bit less like when DragonCenter gets updated

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:25 AM

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modern walrus well apparently I have a BIOS update. Maybe it'll make MSI suck a bit less like ...

You using that to OC?

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Try xtu as well as bios

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 5:25 AM

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I think I'm going to cuz unless I do all core it doesn't even listen to me

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:26 AM

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Xtu has the oer core

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 5:26 AM

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I saw in your picture. That inspired me to use it haha

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Lol sorry just seen the message. Power settings in windows can cause issues as well btw

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:47 AM

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If I catch y'all recommending worse ram for more money you're getting called out no 🧢

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pepecoolshades

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:47 AM

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fierce jungle Gskill is best for sure. Imo at least

G skill ain't it

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Ram brands don't matter

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You pay for the ic inside of it

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And maybe for the rgb design if you care

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Give me the B DIE

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eyes eyes eyes

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:52 AM

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rev.E/B is pretty fun to manually OC

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:52 AM

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bdie is boring as hell

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Rev E is for high mhz but timings? Yeah no

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:52 AM

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reve is fine, its literally just trcdrd

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:53 AM

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tall pelican bdie is boring as hell

B die is the best for someone who buys it and uses it daily. For competitive ocing I can see how it's boring

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:53 AM

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pulsar flint B die is the best for someone who buys it and uses it daily. For competitive oci...

eh, I'd say it's best for much of competitive OC aside from freq valid

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:53 AM

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bdie for daily is terrible since you have to actively cool it to take advantage of it being bdie

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Terrible for daily? But a $5 fan on your sticks fixes that

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:54 AM

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but meh rgb

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:54 AM

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Who cares

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KEKW

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:54 AM

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proven canopy eh, I'd say it's best for much of competitive OC aside from freq valid

Boring and best are not the same

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B die is tried and true

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:54 AM

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still havent found a bdie kit do that trp

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:55 AM

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So aside from max valid - what other IC would you use for 32m, x265, geek3 etc

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@pulsar flint

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Nothing else

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Boring because it's tried

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Not because it's not the best

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B die is the best

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:56 AM

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tall pelican still havent found a bdie kit do that trp

There's xmp b die that can outdo that

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Wait

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:56 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-what-what-excuse-me-pardon-huh-gif-11545810

Tenor

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:56 AM

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I didn't read it right

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I didn't see the right

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Taiphoon caught my eye

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Nah for sure I take that back I didn't see your timings on the right

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:57 AM

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first thing someone looks at is the thaiphoon

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https://tenor.com/view/ight-imma-head-out-spongebob-imma-head-out-ima-head-out-gif-14902967

Tenor

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:57 AM

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Bro

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KEKW

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It's the biggest window on your desktop

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You made the smallest window the part you want people.to look at

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KEKW KEKW KEKW

dull ginkgo Jun 8, 2021, 5:58 AM

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It's just the default size of the zentimings window...

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 5:58 AM

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🤡

left bladeBOT Jun 8, 2021, 5:58 AM

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BigM8#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:58 AM

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Bro

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Goddamnit

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I don't use zen

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I have Intel

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 5:59 AM

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I dont use zen

okay, so you're stuck with trcdrd=trcdwr=trp

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Yep

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I'm on a 9900k since 2019

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Kind of skipped a whole wave of stuff from both companies because 9900k still goated

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 6:04 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/fellowkids-steve-buscemi-kids-how-are-you-gif-5510636

Tenor

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 6:05 AM

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i do great

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/697995591921172532.gif?@everyone

orchid flame Jun 8, 2021, 9:25 AM

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tall pelican still havent found a bdie kit do that trp

That’s cool and all but Aida dumb

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It’s reporting that you have 101% of theoretical max for copy

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Yes, let me go back in time and run gb3 for sparky

orchid flame Jun 8, 2021, 9:26 AM

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And that copy is higher

orchid flame Jun 8, 2021, 9:26 AM

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tall pelican Yes, let me go back in time and run gb3 for sparky

Ew, just run IMLC

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 9:26 AM

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Cuz old aida, dual rank mem and dual ccd

orchid flame Jun 8, 2021, 9:28 AM

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Anyways why do low SOC volts?

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I assume kit is already maxed out so you just lowered volts

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 9:34 AM

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That was auto

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Msi magik was like 1.1 soc

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 12:36 PM

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I think I'll try the z590 extreme with a 10900k

zenith palm Jun 8, 2021, 12:39 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/bb20-bbtyler-peek-a-boo-point-gif-12654131

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How this guy picks which gpu they using today XD

fierce jungle Jun 8, 2021, 1:29 PM

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zenith palm How this guy picks which gpu they using today XD

lol no they are all the same. we dont need them for high power graphical. just h265 decoding. so they all get either a single gt1030 or dual 1650s

zenith palm Jun 8, 2021, 1:31 PM

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fierce jungle lol no they are all the same. we dont need them for high power graphical. just h...

Nice, I'm just messing with you dw lol

proven canopy Jun 8, 2021, 7:08 PM

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orchid flame It’s reporting that you have 101% of theoretical max for copy

What's the equation for that btw

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nvm found on google

orchid flame Jun 8, 2021, 7:56 PM

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proven canopy nvm found on google

Probably not the most accurate version of it

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It’s [Channel bit width][Channel count][Data transfers per cycle (data rate)][Frequency][1/Byte length]

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Multiply that by [efficiency] and you have actual bandwidth instead of theoretical

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The reason you can’t use the popular formula (effective clock x channel count x 64/8) is because a lot of that isn’t constant

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Example: DDR5 moves to 32 bit channels with 2 channels per dimm

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If you use the old equation your theoretical max will be off by a factor of 2

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 8:42 PM

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morning nerds

lavish tundra Jun 8, 2021, 9:04 PM

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Morning flopp

finite frigate Jun 8, 2021, 9:50 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/goose-dancing-goose-fast-goose-default-dance-gif-17516685

Tenor

pulsar flint Jun 8, 2021, 10:20 PM

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hEY

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What timings are the absolute most essential to latency, rather than bandwidth

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 10:31 PM

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$565 for 5600x. Decent right? Not great tho

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 10:35 PM

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terrible

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that's bad 5800x, or good 5900x

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 10:37 PM

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Lol heck.

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Meant 5900x

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Msrp is $549 apparently so I'm happy with it

quick rose Jun 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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AMD.com has stock on Thursdays around 9 AM PST. Get one for MSRP there.

modern walrus Jun 8, 2021, 10:38 PM

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Well I appreciate the info but the ship has sailed. Order is in already

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I mean I guess I could cancel but for $15 I'll pick convenience

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Does AMD charge shipping? Might be even less than $15

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I should finally have all the parts to finish my build in the next 7-10 days. Pretty heckin excited

frank osprey Jun 8, 2021, 11:13 PM

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does anyone know how to set the ryzen 7 2700x to not go past 4.00 ghz i want it overclocked but i dont want it to go past 4 ghz because unity likes to crash my computer when i overclock it

zenith palm Jun 8, 2021, 11:15 PM

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frank osprey does anyone know how to set the ryzen 7 2700x to not go past 4.00 ghz i want it ...

Ehh just use precision boost overdrive or stress test your overclocks with something so you know their stable

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 11:32 PM

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zenith palm Ehh just use precision boost overdrive or stress test your overclocks with somet...

PBO doesn't exist on 2000

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Not in any usable form

zenith palm Jun 8, 2021, 11:32 PM

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sudden torrent PBO doesn't exist on 2000

Ohh yeah

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Shhh

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Welp they should just do a stable oc under load still lol

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 11:35 PM

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frank osprey does anyone know how to set the ryzen 7 2700x to not go past 4.00 ghz i want it ...

You can just set a manual overclock, every 2700X can do 4GHz at 1.35v, and you probably don't even need that much voltage.

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(That's 1.35v before droop under load for those who might complain)

frank osprey Jun 8, 2021, 11:36 PM

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thx im watching a jaystwocents video on it rn

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 11:37 PM

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please dont use the jays2c video

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"bios does 1.45v, so lets manually set that"

sudden torrent Jun 8, 2021, 11:38 PM

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I'm going by silicon lottery stats mr doubter

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It's pretty much exponential if you want to go higher than that though, 4.15GHz at 1.4v is uh... yeah

tall pelican Jun 8, 2021, 11:40 PM

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Im going off some 2700xs hitting hard walls at 3.9

frank osprey Jun 9, 2021, 12:01 AM

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I have it set to 4ghz at 1.350v rn

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I'm going to put it under load with unity

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Yup I'm good now thx guys

sterile flame Jun 9, 2021, 12:06 AM

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i did 1.325 @4.2 for 2 yr

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 3:57 AM

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So for advance offset mode, it allows you to put a voltage offset for various ratios, which sounds nice but how the heck am I supposed to know the base voltage? Like for instance, if I put -.040v for 51 ratio what will the voltage be? I don't know x - -.040 = how many volts?

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what the heck is x? lol

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:45 AM

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modern walrus So for advance offset mode, it allows you to put a voltage offset for various ra...

What cpu?

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Because generally the 'base' voltage will change depending on conditions such as frequency, temperature, load, and more

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@modern walrus

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:48 AM

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10900K

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From what I've been reading the offset is the difference between what the VID is requesting and what you're giving it

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:49 AM

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That isn't what the offset is

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the voltage offset, offsets the target voltage and the voltage you get is still lower then that

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:49 AM

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well darn as soon as I think I have a breakthru... lol

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:49 AM

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But yeah with the same conditions if you apply a -50mv offset, the chip will request 50mv less voltage

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so the best way to find out what voltage you will get is to try it

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:50 AM

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Is there a "safe" voltage for this CPU & a "max"?

lavish tundra Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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safe limit should generally be max limit for everyday OC

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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What board do you have?

lavish tundra Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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south sky But yeah with the same conditions if you apply a -50mv offset, the chip will req...

chip requests more , board cuts it off

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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If your board has a current reading just go off of that in max intensity load

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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lavish tundra chip requests more , board cuts it off

What? No

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What does that even mean

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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I tried to get fancy & put 5/10 cores at 51 & the rest at 50 because I cannot get 51 all core to stay under TJmax, let alone somewhere that is reasonable to use all the time

lavish tundra Jun 10, 2021, 5:51 AM

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look at hwinfo

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:52 AM

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MSI Gaming Carbon Wifi Z490

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:52 AM

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I'm fairly sure you'll have a current reading, so just watch that

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Max safe is 245A under max load

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:52 AM

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lavish tundra look at hwinfo

look at what

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:53 AM

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I look at vCore

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:53 AM

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Do you have your bios set to vcc_sense mode?

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because that'll give you correct voltage readings

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:54 AM

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I have Core voltage monitor as VCC Sense

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:54 AM

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good

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:54 AM

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but I didn't see that in HWiNFO

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:54 AM

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vcore will show proper voltage then

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What are you voltages under max load?

lavish tundra Jun 10, 2021, 5:54 AM

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NVM i was tripping

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:54 AM

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all good

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:55 AM

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Honestly I just started trying to use offset now

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I was on override before

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:55 AM

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what did you get with override?

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:55 AM

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But override is no good when cores are at different voltage

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I wanna say it never exceeded 1.4

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:55 AM

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cores can't be at different voltages

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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oh really? hmm

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so basically the only way to get stable with multiple core ratios

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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the mainstream chips always have the same voltage for all the cores, unless if the cores are in a sleep state, then it can be at 0V

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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is to have a voltage that works for both

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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yeah

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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in terms of temps & stability

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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yup

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though some cores can be better, and those cores may do 5.1ghz when others do 5.0

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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I think I just need to accept my 50 ratio all core

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:56 AM

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per core OC doesn't even work properly though

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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really? lol jeez

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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if you have two cores per core oc'd to 5.1 with all other 5.0, it only ever does 5.1 when those cores at 5.0 are off (in a sleep state)

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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Do you think I can get better temps using offset mode for voltage than override?

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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possibly

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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or is not worth my time sitting here changing numbers by .005

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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though likely not in max loads

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:57 AM

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filling out excel sheets

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:58 AM

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offset mode has a VID boost under AVX, which on some chips can run voltage much higher, which can cause stability issues for AVX but not SSE

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(when AVX would have been the limit with override)

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:58 AM

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I'm not even running any bench/stress & with -0.070 HWiNFO shows max voltage at 1.462 so I guess I'll restart & make it -0.090 or something

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then you factor in Vdroop & this is such a mission

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:59 AM

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1.462 is fine under idle and stuff

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Well let me hit it with CB real quick (I know OCCT & others are better but CB hits it hard quick)

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 5:59 AM

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these chips are rated to do 1.7v just fine

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just the current is very problematic

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:00 AM

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currently my voltage is at .916 with nothing going on

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haha cooling is what's freaking problematic for me

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I swapped Coolermaster ML360 to Arctic Freezer II & I'm still hot

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arctic freezer II 360 I mean

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started cb 1.414 instant TJ Max

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5/10 cores

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always the ones at 50 ratio too but I guess that makes sense

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I just bumped from -0.070 to -0.105 in BIOS

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& of course froze trying to log into windows

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LLC is at Mode 4.

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I dunno it seems like this offset v. override is just a different means to the same unreachable end

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:07 AM

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modern walrus started cb 1.414 instant TJ Max

1.414 is insane

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load?

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:08 AM

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That was at like full AVX load on CB23 I think

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jumped to 1.412 & same instant TJ

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:09 AM

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not suprising

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Maybe I'll try LLC 5 with higher offset

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:10 AM

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1.4V is absolutely insane

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:10 AM

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Where should it be like 1.3?

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:10 AM

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1.3 is insane to cool too

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:11 AM

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ya I'm not doing the whole de-lidding thing so I think I'm SOL

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I guess while I'm talking to someone who knows what they're talking about, which causes the computer to just freeze without GSOD or anything: super high thermals or low voltage?

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:12 AM

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both can do that

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higher temps mean worse clocks/voltage

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So high temps induce voltage to be too low (even though voltage may be fine at lower ones)

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:13 AM

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OC is hard when there's no GSOD cuz sometimes I dunno whether to go up or down on voltage or LLC

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It's been total trial & error

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GSOD only seems to happen with WHEA errors

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which I know means more voltage

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or at least I think I know

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but now what you're saying makes me think GSOD could be a thermal issue too

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:14 AM

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But yeah, if you don't care about reliability there is a fine balance between voltage and temps

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Too high voltage can cause instability too

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:14 AM

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so I just keep tinkering until I hopefully land on something stable like a blind squirrel finding an acorn lol

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Like when I was seeing how high my 9900K could clock, 1.7V was much worse then 1.55V (5ghz vs 5.55ghz)

robust aurora Jun 10, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Less then 1.3 load should be enough

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:17 AM

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just shot to 1.398. How the heck do I keep it under control better? Offset it way more or higher LLC?

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It's like it doesn't listen to me lol

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:17 AM

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1.398v under load or not?

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:17 AM

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yes

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load

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:17 AM

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Also if you are using offset set AC_LL and DC_LL both to 1.1mOhm in bios

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:18 AM

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okay I gotta look for that setting I've never encountered it

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:19 AM

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modern walrus MSI Gaming Carbon Wifi Z490

what's the name of the sensor that you're getting voltage from?

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:19 AM

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on HWiNFO it's vCore

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:20 AM

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then its just a superio reading, and its not accurate

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:20 AM

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BIOS Voltage Monitor is set to VCC Sense

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I don't think I have a better reading unfortunately

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:20 AM

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you dont, just an msi issue

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I sent a picture of HWiNFO to someone before & they were confused that I didn't have it

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I'm not a big MSI fan these days

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The other Option is Socket Sense instead of VCC

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:21 AM

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pretty much completely ignore the voltage you see in hwinfo

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:21 AM

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heck okay

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:22 AM

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isn't vcc_sense proper voltage though fitz? since it is a vccsense to vss sense reading

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:22 AM

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is LLC Mode6 getting too crazy here?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:22 AM

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MSI Z490 Loadline Values
Mode Socket Vcc
1 0.130mΩ 0.000mΩ
2 0.213mΩ 0.067mΩ
3 0.528mΩ 0.126mΩ
4 0.652mΩ 0.213mΩ
5 0.875mΩ 0.524mΩ
6 1.100mΩ 0.641mΩ
7 1.333mΩ 0.842mΩ
8 1.529mΩ 1.158mΩ

so vcc 5 or socket 3 should more or less be best for llc

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:23 AM

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oh wait that's right vcc_sense for VCore reads VCC_sense to socket gnd

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so yeah it's wrong

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:23 AM

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its msi

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:23 AM

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don't those boards have a vrvout sensor now or something?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:23 AM

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only meg line

south sky Jun 10, 2021, 6:23 AM

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damn

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:24 AM

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ya mine is MPG

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heck

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okay well I can't even get into windows with an offset over -0.100

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& LLC at 5 I'm still getting wild temps

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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if you're doing offsets, you shouldnt need llc

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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The closest thing I got to stable was with Offset+Adaptive Mode with voltage set to 1.330 with a -.035 offset but I had 4 cores 94 degrees+

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oh really?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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yeah

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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okay so set it at flat?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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no, just leave it auto

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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oh for real?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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yes

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:30 AM

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Auto is usually junk lol

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I'll try that thanks

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okay it's now Auto LLC with -0.090 offset

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Windows let me log-in...

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okay just logging in--not running CB or anything--HWiNFO showed max vCore at 1.454. Even if that voltage is pretty off, seems to me I need way more of an offset before I should even bother hitting start on CB

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:34 AM

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I mean, it'll drop more under load, but its still a superio that'll always be over estimating

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:35 AM

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It's hard to know what to put for offset without an accurate voltage read

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The 50 all core w/ 48 ring ratio & 0 avx offset that actually works has the voltage set to 1.290

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I should like CB that & see what the voltage is. Maybe I can approximate the difference between vCore & actual

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:39 AM

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I mean, you'll probably be better off with an override or adaptive voltage than banging your head against a wall with offset

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:40 AM

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Override I can't seem to get stable

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and I haven't tried adaptive

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What does Adaptive even do?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:40 AM

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adaptive is override, but if you have windows set to balanced power plan, it'll lower voltage when the core downclocks

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:41 AM

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oh no it's on Ultimate Performance

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:41 AM

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then adaptive = override

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:42 AM

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which will bring LLC back into play I guess

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:42 AM

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yup

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:42 AM

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This is frustrating. How do you deal with this?

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:42 AM

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I personally just do override, and dont bother with 100% stability

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:43 AM

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core ratio 51 just isn't in the cards. I gotta deal with it

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How crazy do your thermals get?

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I mean is the rule, if it doesn't TJmax go for it? lol

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:43 AM

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if you figure out which core it is, you can do turbo ratios, and set the worst cores to x50 , and everything else to 51 and 52

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:44 AM

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2, 4, 6, are my worst

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Im direct die, but even my 9700k was just game stable

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:44 AM

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4 & 6 the absolute worst

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:44 AM

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are you going off temps, or event viewer thread numbers?

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:44 AM

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temps from HWiNFO

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:44 AM

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that doesnt tell you good or bad cores

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make a whea logger in event viewer

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:45 AM

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haha every time I think I've figured something out, it's wrong

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 6:45 AM

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APIC ID is the core reporting the error

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 6:46 AM

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I see

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I'll try to figure it out from there from now on then

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I probably have 100 logs by now

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200 maybe

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when I look for videos explaining they're either 10 years old, not for MSI, or some other form of useless

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amazing how 5 milivolts is the difference between stable/not stable & like 10 degrees

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I'm gonna go back to trying to get all core. This offset is too crazy for me

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I can get 5.1 with a -1 AVX but what's the point of that

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 7:00 AM

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none, because even discord will use avx LeoKek

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 7:05 AM

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Lol gosh darn it

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right now 51 ratio vCore is pretending voltage is 1.326. Max temp 94 & I'm only on Pass 1

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oh and here's an L0 error

tall pelican Jun 10, 2021, 7:25 AM

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but is it stable for what you use it for?

modern walrus Jun 10, 2021, 7:26 AM

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I've never really tried tbh

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what's weird is in override/adaptive with voltage set at 1.315, it shows vCore as 1.33 under load

lavish tundra Jun 10, 2021, 7:20 PM

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lmao good luck

sudden torrent Jun 10, 2021, 7:21 PM

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The world record frequency on liquid nitrogen is 4.19 GHz
Not going to happen

lavish tundra Jun 10, 2021, 7:31 PM

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ok then set voltage to 1.8 and try

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since you really wanna kill the cpu

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@river relic

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wish your CPU a good death while you at it

faint tangle Jun 11, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Non oc'd my 3600 sits at a max temp of 82 and norm stays at 80 under full load. Is it safe to oc it?

lavish tundra Jun 11, 2021, 8:15 PM

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I wouldnt

faint tangle Jun 11, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Kk thanks

zenith palm Jun 11, 2021, 9:30 PM

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faint tangle Non oc'd my 3600 sits at a max temp of 82 and norm stays at 80 under full load. ...

Enable pbo and get a gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt or vetroo b5

stuck token Jun 12, 2021, 2:08 AM

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Quick question. EVGA GTX 1070-Ti, what should go do for intervals while overclocking both core, and memory clock speeds

tall pelican Jun 12, 2021, 2:09 AM

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core clocks in steps of 12.5, so I'd personally do 25, and memory I'd go in steps of 200 (can fine tune it more if you're picky about it)

stuck token Jun 12, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Ok, core clocks were more of what I was unsure of memory I assumed to be about 250. Thanks for the info, been running base clocks since I got it 3 months ago, might as well Overclock it.

south sky Jun 12, 2021, 2:39 AM

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faint tangle Non oc'd my 3600 sits at a max temp of 82 and norm stays at 80 under full load. ...

no reason not to

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You could get better clocks with the same temps or even get the same or a but more with less temps

sterile flame Jun 12, 2021, 3:32 AM

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whats good static clock for an 8950k
aio is arctic freezer II 360mm
asus prime z490a

proven canopy Jun 12, 2021, 5:18 AM

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https://www.twitch.tv/antitux

Twitch

Antitux - Twitch

Frosty Friday - First night with the new Streaming machine! - LN2 Extreme Overclocking - 3DMark Port Royal 17692 - 16th In the World!

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3090 on liquid nitrogen

orchid flame Jun 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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@south sky hey

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I got smth

south sky Jun 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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got what

orchid flame Jun 12, 2021, 9:54 AM

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One sec

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Y9ou have it too

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But you no share so I had to get it myself

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madrage

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lavish tundra Jun 12, 2021, 9:57 AM

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orchid flame

what does that entail exactly

orchid flame Jun 12, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Nothing peposmugsshh

lavish tundra Jun 12, 2021, 10:00 AM

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so its a pdf document thats completely useless?

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im confused

south sky Jun 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

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orchid flame But you no share so I had to get it myself

I have the ddr6 one

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oh that's 79-5A

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I'm dumb

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interesting that, the samsung ballot is not as long as 79-5

orchid flame Jun 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

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south sky oh that's 79-5A

You have 79-5A I assume?

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Also, do you know why I can’t see the DDR6 one?

south sky Jun 12, 2021, 10:57 AM

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orchid flame You have 79-5A I assume?

not the final one, but also not that ballot

south sky Jun 12, 2021, 10:57 AM

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orchid flame Also, do you know why I can’t see the DDR6 one?

What do you mean?

dull ginkgo Jun 12, 2021, 4:08 PM

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lavish tundra so its a pdf document thats completely useless?

It's just ddr5 specifications in a draft :p

lavish tundra Jun 12, 2021, 4:16 PM

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dull ginkgo It's just ddr5 specifications in a draft :p

bruh

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nice

dull ginkgo Jun 12, 2021, 4:28 PM

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It's the kind of documentation you don't slog through and leave it to others to summarize

lavish tundra Jun 12, 2021, 4:30 PM

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dull ginkgo It's the kind of documentation you don't slog through and leave it to others to ...

makes sense

dull ginkgo Jun 12, 2021, 4:30 PM

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That's a 480 page pdf

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Would prob take weeks to read, months to understand

lavish tundra Jun 12, 2021, 4:33 PM

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any idea why the emails are blured?

dull ginkgo Jun 12, 2021, 4:33 PM

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because they're people that don't want to be doxxed...?

lavish tundra Jun 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Makes sense

sterile flame Jun 12, 2021, 7:37 PM

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What’s should I be ocing a 8950k too statically

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Cooler is arctic freezer II 360mm
Board is ASUS prime z490

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Case is phantex 500a if that matters

sudden torrent Jun 12, 2021, 8:03 PM

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sterile flame What’s should I be ocing a 8950k too statically

Are you sure that's the model number of the processor? I see a 8950HK but no 8950K on Intel Ark

sterile flame Jun 12, 2021, 8:09 PM

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@sudden torrent *10850k

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My bad

sudden torrent Jun 12, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Ah well that changes things dramatically lol

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Do you want to attempt a per-core overclock or just do all core?

sudden torrent Jun 12, 2021, 8:17 PM

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sterile flame <@396513761550270464> *10850k

For all core you should be able to do 4.9GHz SSE, 4.8GHz AVX. It'll use over 200W, probably closer to 230W, and you'll need a die sense vcore voltage of at least 1.15v
It's possible also you won't be able to hit these numbers if you got a bad bin chip.

orchid flame Jun 12, 2021, 8:42 PM

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south sky What do you mean?

I can’t find the download for DDR6 draft on the site

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Why...

dull ginkgo Jun 12, 2021, 8:46 PM

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maybe they only give access to specific people, who knows

orchid flame Jun 12, 2021, 8:53 PM

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dull ginkgo maybe they only give access to specific people, who knows

my account should have full access

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its in comitee 42.3

dull ginkgo Jun 12, 2021, 11:05 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

modern walrus Jun 12, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Sooo... if my 10900K is hitting a max of 97 on RealBench stress test that's pretty bad huh? to TJ tho? lol

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voltage at 1.302 under load

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I thought I had a stable OC at 50 a/c but I tested it again recently & got 1 WHEA error.

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Any WHEA errors mean not stable right?

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Even then the thermals were hitting 94

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I got a bad bin for sure

zenith palm Jun 12, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Yeah whea errors bad

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97c is not good, what cooler you using

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 12:30 AM

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orchid flame my account should have full access

did you actually pay to enter?

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 12:48 AM

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freezer II

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360

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I can't really get much better w/o doing a custom loop

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& H500P Mesh isn't a great case for custom loop anyway

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Define "stable." Does "stable" mean no WHEA errors or any issues whatsoever

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?

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cuz if "stable" means Prime95 stable, I don't even think the chips are stable out of the box

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I could probably get more stable if I drop the ring ratio. I forgot I had it at 48 on a 50 core ratio

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Anyway, I dunno if I can be stable with a 50 ratio at all. btw I noticed after logging all my results in an Excel sheet that 1.285v with Mode 3 LLC, 1.300v with Mode 4 LLC, & 1.340v with Mode 5 LLC all result in a vCore of 1.286-1.288v under load. Is there any difference in using any of those 3 since they have the same practical effect?

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 12:59 AM

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south sky did you actually pay to enter?

not me no

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i have a friend who's a google software engineer

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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that's cool

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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yeah, trying to get access to the doc

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but its basically impossible to find

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could you send a link to it?

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:00 AM

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maybe thaiphoon will leak it like they did with one of the early ddr5 ballots

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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ye ik
but like

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I have access to it

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literally jut cant find the download

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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I don't think it's on the site

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 1:01 AM

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oh

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where tf is it then lol

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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I got emailed it by someone

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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oh.

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sad

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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I used gmail and google scans gmail emails, so maybe your friend can find it

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 1:02 AM

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south sky I used gmail and google scans gmail emails, so maybe your friend can find it

LOL

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you know I have your email
but no...thats not a thing

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I'll just look more on the siteto see if Ican find it

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:03 AM

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they said they do in their terms! haha

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 1:03 AM

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yea but not a normal software engineer

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 1:03 AM

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yeah i know

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It's a robot

proven canopy Jun 13, 2021, 6:21 AM

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You're a robot

lavish tundra Jun 13, 2021, 6:21 AM

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No IM a robot

sudden torrent Jun 13, 2021, 6:27 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/squidward-im-squidward-spongebob-squarepants-gif-14639116

Tenor

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:02 AM

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modern walrus 360

Don't think you should be getting temps that high with that cooler

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:03 AM

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modern walrus cuz if "stable" means Prime95 stable, I don't even think the chips are stable ou...

Also yes it means p95 stable

lavish tundra Jun 13, 2021, 9:10 AM

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modern walrus cuz if "stable" means Prime95 stable, I don't even think the chips are stable ou...

P95 small ffts stable isnt even completely stable tbh

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Ycruncher is more sensitive

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lol

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but yeah at all auto all chips should be stable

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:12 AM

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@zenith palm is there some setting I could have overlooked dis/enabling that could cause temps to be so high?

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:15 AM

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modern walrus <@191276897227898880> is there some setting I could have overlooked dis/enabling...

I haven't overclocked on intel so i couldn't tell ya tbh

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:17 AM

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I got the max temp down to 94 by lowering ring ratio to 47. No WHEA errors running RealBench or CB23 but even I know 94 is hot even on a 10900K

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But man, I don't wanna settle on a 49 all core. That sucks

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I'm really considering drilling a series of holes in the acrylic top of the case so the air getting pushed out by the AIO escapes quicker

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I've ever tbought about cutting 3 3.5" holes & mounting 2-3 120mm fans up there to pull hot air out

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Just worried it'll look ridiculous &/or my 4 year old will somehow hurt his hand because of it

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Hmm I just thought of this: you think I should remove that top panel & run tests to see how different temps end up?

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:24 AM

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modern walrus Just worried it'll look ridiculous &/or my 4 year old will somehow hurt his hand...

No point push pull rads only help by like a degree or 2

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Ya but I was more concerned with the hot air having little space to escape because the top is acrylic & restricts air movement to pretty small openings in the side

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you see the top panel only has those openings on the side where air can escape

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Btw that's an old picture with the AIO I had before the freezer II

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I wish they offered a mesh top panel for it

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:28 AM

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modern walrus Ya but I was more concerned with the hot air having little space to escape becau...

Ahh, well removing that might help, do you have 3 intake fans?

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:28 AM

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I hace 2 200mm in the front

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I recently cut that in with a 4" hole saw to shoot air up to the AIO

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:29 AM

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modern walrus I hace 2 200mm in the front

That should be fine yeah

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:30 AM

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I mean two AIOs in a row now get really mediocre/bad thermals. Either air can't escape quick enough or the chip sucks

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I used to have it like this

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Which wasn't good because hot air from the radiator got blown into the case

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But then I had another 2 200mm fans up top blowing air in

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My last idea is to cut holes in the bottom & use two 70mm fans (40cfm but loud) to pull in cool air from the bottom of the case to feed that 120mm I cut in

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I'd probably have to put 2x4" to raise the case so they wouldn't just pull in hot exhaust from the power supply

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:35 AM

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Hmm yeah, is your front mesh or arcycluc btw?

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:35 AM

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Mesh

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:36 AM

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Oh jeez i messes up that spelling lol

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:36 AM

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I got it no worries haha

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:36 AM

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Hmm I'm not sure then, is your aio pump to 100%

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:36 AM

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Ya as soon as cpu hits 50 degrees

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:36 AM

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Maybe try all the time

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Ya that's a good idea. It's not even loud

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I am gonna see how it does if that top panel is off so the hot air can escape easy

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It's pretty restricted up top like the acrylic front was. That was why GamerNexus tore it a new one

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Hmm cases aren't really that expensive. Maybe I should entertain just moving everything to a new home. I really like how the case looks but--assuming my chip just isn't crappy--I'd change it up for decent thermals

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Eventually I wanna build my dad a decent computer for work & browsing easy stuff. I could throw the stock 200s back on the front & give it to him

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Something like a corsair 4000d/5000d airflow or td500 mesh or p500a is what I'd recommend to move to if you were gonna

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:41 AM

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Ya that 5000d is beautiful I'd probably do that

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:41 AM

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modern walrus Eventually I wanna build my dad a decent computer for work & browsing easy stuff...

Yeah would do just fine

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:42 AM

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modern walrus Ya that 5000d is beautiful I'd probably do that

It really is yeah

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:42 AM

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Ya he doesn't even know what an overclock is

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I'll just throw an i5 with integrated graphics in there with the 360 AIO I replaced. Some cheap 16gb ram & like a 500w power supply he'd be good to go

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:43 AM

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Yep pretty much

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:44 AM

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Way better than his like 10 year old i7

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I don't even know what gen. Maybe 5 or 6?

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I put an SSD in there. Made a huge difference

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Haha great now this idea is in my head

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Haha more time n money XD

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:45 AM

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My Ryzen 9, gpu riser, & last bit of pipe should be here in the next 5-10 days

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I can finally finish my megladon custom loop build

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I got the EK Waterblock on Friday. It's gorgeous

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:47 AM

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Nice

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:48 AM

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One pipe from the back 140 rad to the reservoir & one pipe from the top 360 rad to the gpu & I might finally turn it on

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Thanks. But ya my thermals are nuts. I gotta find the culprit.

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Can the 5000d take. 200mm fans up front? I didn't even think of that. I'll check it out

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:49 AM

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Not 200mm 140 max i think

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:50 AM

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I guess 200mm fans are kinda gimicky because they move a lot of air but like low static pressure lazily

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Yeah they also mean wide af case

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:50 AM

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Hmm sounds like the 5000d needs to meet my m18 fuel angle grinder lol

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Lol ya this thermaltake level 20 gt is 10.25" wide without any panels on

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I think it's a fill 12" once it's all suited up

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I'm starting to worry about thermals on that but I probably won't mess with the 5900x anyway

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:53 AM

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Yeah just enable pbo or something

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 9:55 AM

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I don't know anything about Ryzen so I'll be back here annoying all of you for that soon

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Well hopefully soon. UPS stays clowning on me

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Oof

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 10:01 AM

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so if I can get thermals under 89 is that about good or should it be lower?

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Intel Speed Shift should be disabled?

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 10:35 AM

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What about disabling hyperthreading on the cores that are always hottest? like 1-2 of them?

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 10:39 AM

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modern walrus so if I can get thermals under 89 is that about good or should it be lower?

Compare your thermals to gamers nexus on their review of the arctic freezer

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I would not recommend disabling hyper threading as hyper threading is greatttt

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 10:40 AM

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per core ht sucks

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windows doesn't know what to do

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 10:40 AM

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zenith palm I would not recommend disabling hyper threading as hyper threading is greatttt

for some workloads you can get nice bumps

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Like in games with 8 core and above cpu's

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but yeah I tested 2c3t on my 9900K and it was a mess

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can't recommend it

zenith palm Jun 13, 2021, 10:41 AM

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Yeah ht is a godsent XD

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 10:41 AM

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I daily no ht on my 9900K

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free perf

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 10:42 AM

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what about speed shift?

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 10:42 AM

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don't bother

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it's good

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I can't think of a reason to disable it

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 10:43 AM

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I see

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I'm gonna try my experiment now

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I did two baseline tests with the top panel

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gonna try not w/o it

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or try w/o it I mean

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bro

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I'm doing a 2d run just for experiment integrity

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the difference is not insignificant

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the difference is an average 4.4-5 degrees

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:08 AM

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south sky but yeah I tested 2c3t on my 9900K and it was a mess

How?

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:08 AM

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that's a secret

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:08 AM

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Per core HT was CML, no?

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:08 AM

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south sky that's a secret

😐

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:09 AM

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https://valid.x86.fr/crfkln here is 6c11t though

Intel Core i9 9900K @ 4203.07 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[crfkln] Validated Dump by DESKTOP-CJ9QFUO (2021-04-13 18:43:18) - MB: Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI-CF - RAM: 32768 MB

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Was it a hardware of software solution?

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:09 AM

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did it two months ago

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Like in OS or pre OS

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:09 AM

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I didn't modify the cpu cursed1

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I'm not sure what category that it would fall into

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:09 AM

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Like was it changed in OS?

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

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all I know is Intel doesn't want you to do this

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Did you boot into windows at 12t?

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

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no

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

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Ah

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Ok

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All I needed

south sky Jun 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

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I did a vtune of it somewhere

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it was funny to look at

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 11:12 AM

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looks like I'm not finished with the hole saw yet lol

orchid flame Jun 13, 2021, 11:13 AM

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Why are you testing in cinebench

modern walrus Jun 13, 2021, 11:14 AM

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to get it hot quickly

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OCCT seems to take forever to really get going

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Prime95 is evil

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lol