Measure the case
#overclocking
vague gull
astral nexus
ok brb
135mm
from mobo to side panel
rn I have an NH-L12S
which is 70mm
and it looks like there is about 55mm of space between it and the side panel
I'll be back later, gotta go do school
sharp furnace
120 aio if you are going tha T route deepcool isn't an unreasonable solution
winged hill
If someone's never overclocked ram before where does one start? To figure out the timings and if the speed can be bumped up?
olive portal
Mess with the ram you get the blue screen @winged hill
bleak sable
what is a good 3070 CORE and mem OC
rugged acorn
you really just need to experiment with it
clever epoch
you can OC RAM just fine. Run memtest after OC to make sure it's stable
Start by bumping up the voltage. All DDR4 sticks should be able to do 1.4V stable 24/7. If you have Samsung B die you can do 1.45V
see how fast you can get the memory, then mess with the timings
jade gate
So yeah power consumption was added to Zen 2 not long ago
dull ginkgo
I mean mine is like
jade gate
80c is max speed
jade gate
yikes
jade gate
40C passive
41C 40%
60C 60%
80C 100%
dull ginkgo
haven't touched bios fan curve in a while
yea that's why
anyways lemme just see what p95 gives me temps
jade gate
id say mines passive aggressive if you will
dull ginkgo
anyways 60c idle atm, time to p95 and check power draw and temp
jade gate
even an nhd15 is treading the line with p95 on my cpu
dull ginkgo
whew
jade gate
ik thats not good
dull ginkgo
140w power consumption
dull ginkgo
jumped to 95c
jade gate
thats better than 200w tho
dull ginkgo
fan just started spinning it sounds like
jade gate
please fix your fan curves lol
jade gate
ew
dull ginkgo
It's going up in temp lmao
dull ginkgo
yea it was throttling I'm pretty sure
jade gate
it throttles at 100c
dull ginkgo
jade gate
disgusting
jade gate
please change that
jade gate
do what i do
dull ginkgo
yes I know dragon center is not good but idc I'm lazy
jade gate
40C Passive
41C 40%
60C 60%
80C 100%
eww...i uninstalled that once I got my rgb configed
jade gate
hmm
dull ginkgo
and my PC isn't in a great position to get fresh air
p95 time again
it's hovering 93c
not going higher
oo it's going up
tbh my thermal paste spread is prob bad
jade gate
I peaked at 103C once with p95
dull ginkgo
I peaked at ~104c once
jade gate
oh god
dull ginkgo
mostly because I wanted to have fun with 1.4v
jade gate
the pain
dull ginkgo
don't ask
jade gate
LMAO
dull ginkgo
it was temporary
jade gate
you sadist
dull ginkgo
it was for a 3dmark run actually but yea
dull ginkgo
was wondering if it was cpu crashing
so I p95'd it
@jade gate look man I'm cursed to not be able to reach 10k on time spy
jade gate
f
dull ginkgo
9974 highest
jade gate
32GB ram...i see a fellow intellectual
proven canopy
b die can do 1.5v daily :P
Will probably need direct airflow on the ram for stability, but generally yes.
dull ginkgo
yea
jade gate
do they make ram with heatpipes?
dull ginkgo
they make waterblocks
jade gate
WHAT
dull ginkgo
isn't there that thermaltake AIO with ram waterblock in the loop?
proven canopy
isn't there that thermaltake AIO with ram waterblock in the loop?
yes and it's silly
proven canopy
You'd think anyone who wants to waterblock their ram would already have a custom loop
I think AIOs have their use case, but watercooling the ram isn't one of them
dull ginkgo
yea
jade gate
yeah
dull ginkgo
tbh I would've think there's more GPU AIOs
but you do have to take it apart to slap one on
jade gate
and then theres evga hybrid coolers
dull ginkgo
and then there's the kinpin
jade gate
drools
jade gate
theyre sexy af
dull ginkgo
triple rad
jade gate
plus they're ln2 ready...not that i have the money to do that
dull ginkgo
oh yea p95 running for a while now
steady at 95c
and an even higher power spike
180w
jade gate
damn
proven canopy
You can bench any evga gpu on ln2 without voiding the warranty.
proven canopy
It's more that you have to hard mod the card and/or flash a warranty-voiding XOC bios to really take advantage of extreme cooling
dull ginkgo
I think MSI too
Since MSI allows for taking apart cooling solution and custom cooling solution and OCing
proven canopy
But EVGA often provides said XOC bios's , the password on the zip archive is iwillnotrmathiscard lol
dull ginkgo
lol
proven canopy
Ya, look at the chart I pinned in #graphics-cards
dull ginkgo
oh I actually have that sheet lmao
you probably gave it to me a while back or something
jade gate
that ice on the back hurts me
dull ginkgo
condensation is sad
proven canopy
On any longer session, I'd insulate the back, since the core heats up/down enough to melt some of the condensation/ice
Otherwise, frost isn't conductive, so doesn't really matter
dull ginkgo
side note, occt small data set cpu test seems less stressful than p95 smallfft, I wonder about linpack
jade gate
so you only lubed up the fornt of the card but the back was dry? 
proven canopy
Didn't insulate at all
dull ginkgo
get it all wet >:D
jade gate
man likes his cards wet
proven canopy
Nothing gets wet during the bench
dull ginkgo
after the bench
dull ginkgo
I dare you to hair dryer that
dull ginkgo
must be 2000
proven canopy
Lol yep. crosshair iv extreme.
jade gate
what socket? fm2? hella dumb lmao
proven canopy
I think I'll go with liquid electrical tape on the board over vaseline or plasti dip
am3
proven canopy
960t
jade gate
jeez
proven canopy
9590 is way later
still mural
Hey guys, i cant seem to find any stable overclock for my i5-10600kf. no matter what the Voltage is its still failing stability tests. i tried x48 all core LLC 5 with AVX -1 and VCore 1.36v and its still failing
and checking silicon lottery
10600K 4.80GHz 4.70GHz 2C+100MHz 1.260V 170W Top 88%
is it just my cpu crap?
still mural
Lian li galahad 240
temps below 75
on Aida64 it just Stops and tells me hardware failed or just BSOD
OS got corrupted like 5 times already 😦
i preformed MEMTEST and it passed 2/4 passes
left prawn
@still mural start slow
still mural
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md
Little background?
proven canopy
That's a great ddr4 oc guide
still mural
and why should i OC my ddr4?
proven canopy
Surprised 1.36v /48 isn't stable tbh
still mural
-_-
proven canopy
I'd try to find highest stable at 1.25v first and go from there
I linked that because I think you'll find the recommended testing software useful
I recommend OCCT in general
still mural
lets say i go XMP off. and start testing, after i find somthing stable, if i turn on XMP wont it be unstable
proven canopy
Could be, but I wouldn't assume that
proven canopy
It's around 1.4v for *lake cpu's with top tier cooling.
There's no one magic voltage cutoff of safety
left prawn
lets say i go XMP off. and start testing, after i find somthing stable, if i tur...
Ok so I have an AMD system so this may not apply but when I was OC'ing my RAM, the voltage automatically defaulted to "XMP" voltage when I set the voltage to 1.35V or higher. XMP voltage on my mobo for some reason is 1.392V. When I set the voltage to 1.34V and below then it goes to 1.36V.
So you may want to see if XMP is taking more voltage than it should be
Because XMP is only supposed to succ 1.35
still mural
okk
left prawn
yet mine did the big succ and took almost 2
still mural
will check on next tests
left prawn
👍
proven canopy
Ok so I have an AMD system so this may not apply but when I was OC'ing my RAM, t...
This is all true, but it's not a problem.
left prawn
Yeah it was for me because I've got the worlds crappiest board lmao
If I want to run at CL14 and 3066 MHz it won't work at 1.392V even
But if I run at CL14 and 3000 MHz it will work perfectly fine at 1.36V
All because of my boards crappy VRM design lmao
dull ginkgo
I give up on CTR :P
proven canopy
That has more to do with the type and bin of memory chip
dull ginkgo
I have cinebench r20 and r23, yet it says no cinebench detected
left prawn
That has more to do with the type and bin of memory chip
True but according to CPU-ID I have Samsung B-Die
dull ginkgo
try typhoon burner
left prawn
@proven canopy So I should be able to OC the bad boys to the other side of the universe LOL
left prawn
Did for me
dull ginkgo
anyways try typhoon burner
left prawn
Me?
left prawn
I used them too
dull ginkgo
what'd it say?
left prawn
It told me I had both Samsung and Sk-Hynix so it didn't really help
dull ginkgo
send ss?
dull ginkgo
wdym first or second
dull ginkgo
wat
left prawn
and then you can see a full report
dull ginkgo
Dunno, all I do is read, and click on the first stick, and this is what it gives me.
left prawn
So you have Hynix D-die?
dull ginkgo
djr yea
left prawn
Well CPU-ID told me the manufacturer of my RAM was Samsung
And Thaiphoon told me the Manufacturer was Hynix
dull ginkgo
ignore that and go with thaiphoon burner
left prawn
But then Thaiphoon told me I have B-die
dull ginkgo
Download thaiphoon burner again and look at it again
dull ginkgo
There's that B-grade section, maybe you misread it?
left prawn
LMAO
winged hill
Is it worth trying to overclock gskill trident z 3200 cl6 ram or just buy faster rated ram?
dull ginkgo
Don't expect ram OC to let you OC at all
so if you want higher frequency, just buy the kit rated for higher frequency
winged hill
Ok 👍
clever epoch
you could probably bump up the voltage and get the timings down a bit
if you really want to memory OC though, get B die
proven canopy
Rev.e is equally fun to OC either for daily or bench imo
my 3000 cl15 dual rank kits do 3800 14 19 19 38 at 1.5v
clever epoch
rev E is good for intel, but the timings don't get as tight as B die
tall pelican
^^^^^ my 3600c16 dr kit does 3800 14-17-11-35
clever epoch
those are some interesting timings 😄
tall pelican
Its called amd timings
clever epoch
lol fair
my 3200C14 kit could probably do 3600 14-14-14- 30(ish) but my 1700X memory controller is 💩 and starts getting errors at 3466
tall pelican
3200c14 is bdie 💤
proven canopy
3200 14 14 14 28 would be pretty nice on first gen ryzen
clever epoch
yeah that's what I'm doing right now
tall pelican
💤
clever epoch
Samsung B(ae)-die
tall pelican
Samsung B(oring)-die
clever epoch
about to get another 2x8 3200 C14, we'll see how that goes
tall pelican
And is the same price as 2x16 reve
clever epoch
You can get 2x16 B die for $200
proven canopy
Rev.e is easier on the imc, if you need lots of (fast) ram, 4x16 rev.e is a great choice
tall pelican
And 2x16 reve for $90
clever epoch
proof
tall pelican
pRoOf
proven canopy
$100/2x16, but still
clever epoch
yeah I'm not seeing anything close to that on PCPP 😛
flint quiver
jade gate
Damn
flint quiver
Damn
Lol the kit is rated for 4000 at cl15 so this was no issue for it to go down, just won't boot 1:1 above 3733
proven canopy
Nice work
flint quiver
Now I just need to finish blitzing my radiators and then switch to the dark hero put her under the HKIV and try for higher 1:1 lol
gilded gazelle
guys is dark hero better than msi godlike ?
proven canopy
yes
tall pelican
board vs board, dark is better, but bios vs bios, I'd lean towards the godlike
neon rapids
just run a custom bios ez
left bladeBOT
Fitz#0441 has been warned
tall pelican
custom bios wont fix 💩 IF straps
gilded gazelle
why board vs board , just because of that cpu oc feature on the dark hero ?
flint quiver
Dark Hero has more power phases, beefier vrms and the cooling for the vrms.
tall pelican
"beefier vrms" that you'll never use
and on ambient, you dont even need a heatsink on them
even on ln2 or dice, the coldness through the board will chill them
flint quiver
maybe but its also a sweet looking board so :p lol
tall pelican
maybe but its also a sweet looking board so :p lol
sweet looking board that unfortunately is at the mercy of asus bios team
obtuse nimbus
Guys i have a 10600kf and msi gaming edge wifi and rtx 3080. Should i overclock the cpu? I have been playing cyberpunk, the temps in my lian li case are around 70-80 degrees for my gpu while playing for 10 hours. Can i squeeze more performance oit of the 10600kf or just leave it as is. Temps for cpu is around 60-70 i think, i use artic 240 aio.
Any helper?
olive portal
Who needs cinebench when window antivirus scan does it
10 times better than cinebench bc it also checks for viruses
obtuse nimbus
olive portal
So it finished and I have no viruses
And took less than a hr unlike what they said it would take over a hr
Took 3 minutes
olive portal
Sure
proven canopy
Could try a manual all core 4.8 on the 10600k if you want.
I'd go for memory oc instead
(or both)
olive portal
Guys i have a 10600kf and msi gaming edge wifi and rtx 3080. Should i overclock ...
Go for it if your bottle necking
A lot
flint quiver
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54881844? 3970x game mode with the 3090
obtuse nimbus
Could try a manual all core 4.8 on the 10600k if you want.
I'd go for memory o...
You mean turn on xmp?
obtuse nimbus
Go for it if your bottle necking
How do i know if i am bottlenecking?
proven canopy
XMP on is a good start
obtuse nimbus
XMP on is a good start
Done that sir, whats next 
obtuse nimbus
Depending on that ram you have, could OC for a bit more performance
Using corsair 3200mhz cl16
16gb
proven canopy
Probably not much OC headroom on those, but if you're interested, could still try
proven canopy
seems fine
obtuse nimbus
I saw this review on my gpu https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-suprim-x/31.html
proven canopy
Use windows + shift + s btw
If you want to compare scores http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/geforce_rtx_3080/
obtuse nimbus
Use windows + shift + s btw
Ooos i am on my phone
@proven canopy i am not getting these temps when i game, and i put it on gaming mode already
Is that normal
proven canopy
idk what you're asking
You're getting different gpu load temps vs what reviews quote?
obtuse nimbus
I feel like i am not getting the advertised temps and quiteness for paying premium for this card
obtuse nimbus
You're getting different gpu load temps vs what reviews quote?
Yes i guess so
I saw multiple review on yt and written reviews, all of them say this card runs cool and quite but i am not getting those temps and noise level
olive portal
How do i know if i am bottlenecking?
msi afterburner
gpu is bottleneck is a good thing btw
flint quiver
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/16322214/spy/16322050 power slider cranked vs 100% nothing else changed
olive portal
the gpu usage in games should sit from 90 to 100%
obtuse nimbus
the gpu usage in games should sit from 90 to 100%
Ahh i see
olive portal
if its below that overclock the cpu
obtuse nimbus
if its below that overclock the cpu
So i check the usage through gpuz?
Is that fine?
olive portal
well msi afterburner kinda does a better job bc u can see it while gaming and it really doesnt disturb u. idk bout gpuz tho
olive portal
So i check the usage through gpuz?
but if it shows the usage percent it should be fine
flint quiver
Break another WR on your stream forks?
proven canopy
Nope lol, just testing zotac stock 3090 performance
Going to flash bios and compare
350w is too little for that card
11.9k port royal score lol
Try stock (but PL maxed) on your card if you wanna compare
flint quiver
Which one I have a ROG Strix 3090 and FTW3 Ultra 3090 now lol
strix is in my TR system and ftw on the 5900, going to play around with sli this weekend lol
proven canopy
CPU doesn't matter at all for PR, so whichever is most convenient
I mean, I've looked up comparison scores, but ya
flint quiver
cool let me kill everything else running give me a few
The strix lets me go to 123% power idk why I can only go to 107% on the ftw3 its on the oc bios switch.....
I didn't install their beta bios and won't until its out of beta maybe that one lets you go higher on the power
olive portal
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/54886610?loginkey=eDBqk-4xl--6HE0a4i4r4g
Proceeds to play among us with that pc
dull ginkgo
Minesweeper
thick lichen
o/
hard ice
that is because you have such a basic screen setup @uneven ermine :P
uneven ermine
probably
hard ice
printscrn just takes a grab of everything, so yes, its another step (in that you have to open up something that you can paste the content into)
sterile flame
Anybody know best budget cooler for ryzen 3300x over clocking?
uneven ermine
i rarely have to take a screenshot of both screens
lucid wyvern
nice
olive portal
Tf did he type
olive portal
Lmao
clever epoch
but @EV#9401 took one for the team
olive portal
Can he just be banned
tall pelican
there was a 2nd guy
winged hill
hallow venture
I wanna overclock my Gigabyte RTX 3070 eagle oc but idk where to start
vernal sail
I would download Fur mark and MSi afterburner
use MSi afterburner to crank up core and memory clock slowly until @hallow venture stable while running a benchmark
vernal sail
Oh that could work too
I only use afterburner
And crank up until unstableity, and then dial it back
hallow venture
theyre both slightly different so its confusing me and i havent overclocked since i built my pc 7 years ago
okay and as i crank up the memory and core should i bump up the voltage too?
vernal sail
Actually, the Gigabyte software probably does most of the gruntwork
But after the gigabyte software try that
hallow venture
also should i restart the benchmark everytime i crank it up more
or can i do it at the same time
vernal sail
Umm, i would personally restart
But good cards like that probably dont have much room for this anyway
They are usually pretty well pre OCed
hallow venture
Any benchmark you recommend? the only benchmark ive used is Heaven Benchmark but i feel its a little outdated
im gonna try to oc it anyways i wanna see if i can get anything else out of it and i just wanna practice its been a while
hallow venture
did you mean furry donut?
vernal sail
I think this is the first time I have ever spelled donut lol
hallow venture
lol
yeah i looked it up and furry donut came up and fuzzy donut means vagina in urban dictionary and i was like hmmm
hallow venture
Lmao
winged hill
Interesting
hallow venture
Okay well ill download that benchmark and use the Aorus engine to oc it
ill post my results later tonight
thanks for the help
proven canopy
I wanna overclock my Gigabyte RTX 3070 eagle oc but idk where to start
Check the top pinned post
3dmark time spy is a good , free gpu benchmark to start with.
A download link is also in the pins
hallow venture
@proven canopy Okay ill look into that thanks for the info
dull ginkgo
not shameless, it's for the greater good
proven canopy
Check out hwbot / the newegg community overclocking team
dull ginkgo
that reminds me, I need to sub with my pc lmao
Gonna make some weak subs with very small oc first
@proven canopy btw, do they require benchmate on Ryzen systems for GPU benches too or no
hallow venture
so far this is what i got i think i can sqeeze a little more out of before its unstable
hallow venture
So im curious if im getting screen tearing should i lower core or clock?
or both?
at least i think its screen tearing im getting red lines and checkers
proven canopy
<@546791995830566912> btw, do they require benchmate on Ryzen systems for GPU be...
no
dull ginkgo
Alright, that's nice, because I was confused on how I was gonna get a 3dmark bench in
winged hill
So I only used Ryzen master to auto OC my 5600x and noticed it pretty much just constantly stays at 4.2ghz and most others getting 4.2-4.8 by making adjustments to Precision Boost instead
winged hill
just use PBO if you want automatic oc
The PBO in Ryzen Master?
dull ginkgo
in BIOS
oh yea recently I figured out if bios voltage is in override mode, it'll override the voltage you put in Ryzen master
I was confused asf on how I was able to do 1.15v 4.2ghz
and then I realized it never changed from 1.3v manual
winged hill
So I figured something was wrong and reset all the bios settings back to default and turned off ryzen master. re ran the test and got a even better score and it shows my cpu now going up to 4.6. it was for some reason locked at 4.2 in the bios.
clever epoch
honestly even PBO just increases power consumption and doesn't really help with performance much at all (from what I've seen/heard)
it says you're running at high frequencies but the scores don't match up
better to do a manual OC IMO. At least if you can get the all core frequency higher than your boost clocks
winged hill
Yeah?
dull ginkgo
ofc you'll beat pbo scores with manual lol
pbo is just better than stock boosting behavior
if you're chasing benchmark scores you go manual
winged hill
I was thinking of just leaving it as is. Im not looking for super high scores. This was all mostly to tweak my performance in cyberpunk. With high/ultra at 1440 dlss and ray tracing I was able to get my fps from around 45 to around 60 depending on situations. I did the hex edit so that all the threads get used instead of half of them. So I mostly used the bench to test out OC'ing the gpu mostly.
hallow venture
whats a good benchmark to stress test your cpu?
i tried 3dmark but i couldnt figure out how to do a cpu benchmark if there even is one
cedar bobcat
Anyone know if it is even possible to overclock on an a520m?
dull ginkgo
@hallow venture Prime95
hallow venture
I'm actually using that as we speak
dull ginkgo
@cedar bobcat I mean
see that at the bottom
@hallow venture make sure to do smallfft, not blend
hallow venture
Yeah I read the stress text before doing it I did a small
dull ginkgo
p95 smallfft seemed to actually cause more stress and power draw than OCCT
hallow venture
Started it 5 minutes ago
dull ginkgo
nice
hallow venture
I have a noctua d-15 I think thats the name
Also I clocked my core ratio to 4.7 and its only using 3.8 while testing why is that?
hallow venture
i left my voltage on auto thinking it would adjust to the core ratio
should i manually do it?
dull ginkgo
maybe
try like 1.3 to start, might need to increase
again, I don't really know Intel well
hallow venture
okay ill try that after this test
also does this test end like in 3dmark or do i have to end it manually?
dull ginkgo
manually
hallow venture
okay i was gonna do what the stress text said and do it for like 15 to 30 minutes and then when i go to bed or something i was gonna stress test overnight
dull ginkgo
do like 30min max imo
hallow venture
30 max?
works for me
is there a way to tell how long its been going on for?
i lost track of time
dull ginkgo
I mean 30min max as a reasonable person
10 min works
P95 is very heavy, you won't need very long to test stability
hallow venture
is the main thread timestamp the time you started the test?
dull ginkgo
don't remember
I'm personally lazy and impatient so I do like 5 minutes and call it a day lol
hallow venture
fair enough lmao
yeah that is so weird like i turn the test off and i jump right back too 4.7
but when in the test i go down to 3.8
Do you think changing my cpu voltage from auto to adaptive mode would fix it?
I'm gonna try it
nope not the problem when i started it stayed at 4.1 then dropped back to 3.8
im gonna play a game and see if the same thing happens
maybe its just prime95
olive portal
Anyone here has a 5000 series cpu and what’s the highest clock u could do on it?
flint quiver
I have a 5950 and with pbo on have seen 4.94ghz sustained all core but haven’t tried to oc any
frosty fern
isnt there a software that can overclock your computer?
dull ginkgo
Bios :p
olive portal
whats the max voltage for an i7 10700k before they start breaking?
olive portal
isnt there a software that can overclock your computer?
yea bios are the best way to overclock
and amd hit the 5ghz mark
dull ginkgo
I wonder how much voltage it takes to instantly kill your chip
maybe like 6v
who needs VRMs
olive portal
who needs VRMs
yea vrms are overrated just let your house set on fire
hallow venture
I heard that if you changed your volts for at least an i7 8700k to 1.8 volts or something like that you wouldnt have a computer anymore
proven canopy
who needs VRMs
I paid for the whole 12v rail, I'm gonna use the whole 12v rail
proven canopy
Most bios won't let you set instant-brick levels of vcore without ln2 mode enabled
azure hollow
how far do you think i could oc a r5 2600x with a artic esports duo 34 at max fan speeds
silk helm
at least 10
rotund aurora
Hi! I have dell g3 and my BIOS does not support XMP or OC. Is there any way to run my RAM at 3200mHz?
vernal sail
well, I am not sure but I would reccomend trying intel extreme tuner
low pelican
is this help for overclocking? if so how does someone with a r7 2700x get there ram to run at advertised speeds without there pc freaking out?
does it need a bios update maybe?
azure hollow
sometimes your mobo doesnt support the ram speed that your ram is advertised at and it will blue screen sometimes while you are playing games because your mobo doesnt support the speed your ram is trying to run at
azure hollow
i didnt know that, i did know that i had a issue with my previous mobo and my ram speeds
proven canopy
It's also mobo dependent, but less so
azure hollow
ye
tall pelican
its more of a 2700x trying to run dual rank
proven canopy
Maybe needs a manual 1.1v on soc
azure hollow
well, while on the topic of overclocking in the overclocking chat i want to ask
so
i have a r5 2600x obviously
and it is rated to oc to 4.2 ghz
when i threw it to 4.2 it was unstable
i have it running at 4.1
and it is fine
so would i just give it some more voltage? would that fix that?
clever epoch
4.2 GHz boost on a single core. It's unlikely that all of your cores can run at that boost frequency simultaneously
sharp mason
What is overclocking?
vague gull
make pc go fast
sharp mason
Vroom vroom?
midnight shore
make pc go fast
cinder umbra
What is overclocking?
olive portal
Increasing the performance of your parts. This mostly applies to cpu,gpu and ram. So basically it increases the performance by increasing the power. Sometimes when u get some of the parts which have higher quality it can be undervolted better with more performance. That’s the silicon lottery.
@cinder umbra
sharp mason
How do you overclock?
olive portal
How do you overclock?
loook up a turtorial
olive portal
How do you overclock?
and u overclock in the bios and make sure u have a good cooler when overclocking
or a decent one
harsh nebula
I'm building with a ryzen 7 3700X and an AIO... do I not need to manually overclock and just let the precision boost overclocking do it's thing..?
cold jolt
pbo is the better option
harsh nebula
okay thanks 😄
sharp mason
Nice
pulsar nexus
hi looking for help on oc a Ryzen 7 5800x on a B550 Tomahawk mb. any videos or guide i can follow ?
tall pelican
enable pbo
vapid berry
enable pbo
proven canopy
enable pbo
tall pelican
obp elbane
arctic jackal
Can anyone give me a stable oc for the 3700x
tall pelican
pbo
neon rapids
can we pin a message that just says pbo
tall pelican
"if you have ryzen 3000 or 5000 series, enable pbo"
there's also a huge asterisk of 3900x/t and 3950x doing better at stock than pbo in single core loads
olive portal
If I mess with the vccio and cpu system agent volt will I get better oc s? Any recommendations I should do. I’m doing a 5.1ghz oc with offset 1 at 1.35v
tall pelican
io and sa wont help with your core
drowsy meadow
Guys can i overclock ryzen 5 5600x with b550 tomahawk
vernal sail
yes
clever epoch
any B550 mobo over $200 can handle a 5950X, probably OC it too. Any B550 that you didn't scrape from the bottom of the barrel can probably OC a 5600X
dull ginkgo
Doesn't even need over 200$
clever epoch
Yeah, I think the MSI Mag B550-A Pro can easily handle a 5950X at $150
tall pelican
it'll handle a stock 5950x no problem, pbo with something like p95 might be rough
sterile flame
What is pbo
dark ferry
peanut butter oil
twin jetty
help with oc 1070ti?
neon rapids
quick rose
MSI Afterburner. That's all ya need
vague gull
u also need 2 be lucky 
sterile flame
peanut butter oil
Tasty
harsh nebula
What is pbo
I'm pretty sure its a way for cpus to incrementaly increase their performance and speed if a few conditions are met: Is the cpu too warm? Does it need to increase speed (is task demending enough). idk tho
quick rose
It's AMD's Auto Overclocking feature
And it works really well
Precision Boost Overdrive
rotund echo
can that help me with my gpu? @quick rose Sapphire radeon R9 285 dual-x, i am unclear if this is the OC version
rotund echo
oh
so just gotta use the radeon software
i had a few issues with stability when pushing it past 1020Mhz
as a total noob i assumed the end of the slider was my max
vague gull
forks do u have like
a windows image
with all that stuff on it
or do u install manually each time
proven canopy
That's yosarian's win7 haha
vague gull
whos that lol
proven canopy
The guy who was just chatting in general
vague gull
oh nice
sterile flame
i have an ryzen 9 3900x and i got the core speed to 4250Mhz, is that good or wat?
radiant kettle
@vague gull I use an iso cause I don't wanna make a big ass image and I'm also lazy to make an image for every platform
radiant kettle
Not that custom
Just found an iso with crosshair vi drivers slipstreamed in around launch of ryzen and used it since
quick rose
Yeah
that's really low
Just turn on PBO and let it do it's thing. Should be 4.5-4.6ghz. @sterile flame
sterile flame
how do i do that? lol. ive never done this stuff
quick rose
You enable it in the BIOS
Or through Ryzen Master Software
Actually, just use Ryzen master
Download it from AMD
sterile flame
ye i have ryzen master
sterile flame
asus b450-f gaming
sterile flame
asus rog strix b450-f gaming
quick rose
nice
"Under A.I Tweaking -> Precision Boost Overdrive -> Enable
AMD Overclocking -> Precision Boost Overdrive -> Enable
You have to enable it in both these sections for it to work."
Set everything else back to normal, IE no forced overclock
Then put a load on it and watch PBO work it's magic
Also
There is a new BIOS as of 12/9/2020 with new AGESA code
Probably worth grabbing that too while you're in there
sterile flame
Okok
Also kinda fun, my ram have been running at 1233 mhz for 6 months
But they should have been running 3000mhz
Lol
sterile flame
It was 1233 bcs I didn't turn on docp
quick rose
Both of these places
Under A.I Tweaking -> Precision Boost Overdrive -> Enable
AMD Overclocking -> Precision Boost Overdrive -> Enable
sterile flame
I did the ai one
Can't see amd overclocking tho
I found it now
It was kinda hidden
quick rose
👍
sterile flame
And I should be aming for 4,5-4,6ghz?
sterile flame
i7-6700K 4.4GHz perfectly stable at 1.2V is that like normal or did i manage to get a golden chip
dull ginkgo
4.4ghz on Intel, I dunno
@sterile flame From silicon lottery's binning data
all core
sterile flame
@dull ginkgo So i assume i do have a gold bin? cuz mine can do 4.4GHz all core at stock 1.2V
dull ginkgo
uh I dunno
see if you can do each of those
4.6ghz at 1.392
4.7ghz at 1.408, etc
and then match it up with the %
sterile flame
okay
vernal sail
how do you have no rank just curious @pearl crypt
obtuse nimbus
Hey guys i just tried OCing my 10600kf and run a userbenchmark.com test. When the test is running it shows 2 cores are thermal throttling, i am using a liquid arctic freeze 240 aio, is it not good enough to prevent the temps from creeping to 98 degrees?
@dull ginkgo can you help to see if i am being too aggresive with my OC or my aio is just not good enough or i shouldnt worry about the temps because it only hit that temps because of benchmark. This rig is specifically for gaming and very light word and exel work stuff.
quick rose
Geekbench
obtuse nimbus
<@!219944142959149056> what's the voltage?
dull ginkgo
offset mode eh
obtuse nimbus
Because i am using the exact mobo and cpu
dull ginkgo
Personally don't like offset mode
obtuse nimbus
In heaven benchmark i didnt get any gain sir
dull ginkgo
let's see how hot it gets under prime95
obtuse nimbus
So are you saying these temps are not normal?
Should i just revert it? Or do you have better suggestion
dull ginkgo
Wouldn't expect it with a freezer ii, but adaptive voltage might just go weird
obtuse nimbus
Wouldn't expect it with a freezer ii, but adaptive voltage might just go weird
Yeah thats what i thought, bought the freezer 240 because i saw great reviews from gamernexus. But one thing i noticed is that i could hear the fans of the aio ramping up? Could it be because of the aio setting?
Do you know how i could change the aio fan setting?
dull ginkgo
Bios
dull ginkgo
your choice
obtuse nimbus
Anything i have to change here?
dull ginkgo
I don't mess with Intel OCing
if you're following the guide with voltage, that works ig
obtuse nimbus
obtuse nimbus
I don't mess with Intel OCing
In your proffesional opinion should i just leave it stock or keep it at OC?
obtuse nimbus
Level1tech is way more qualified than me at this
Ohh is he active here?
obtuse nimbus
Ohhh
But he cant answer my concerns
Do you know if anyone can in this discord?
dull ginkgo
Forky
sullen crypt
hey guys can someone help me OC the ram i have a G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 4266mhz with X570-GAMING-X gigbyte cant get over 3700mhz and an AMD 5600x
when ever i try to make it go to 4000mhz the pc turn off and on 3 times then it gos to factory BIOS
quick rose
Have to decouple the RAM. Otherwise, what you're effectively doing is overclocking the FLCK, which is the speed the chiplets communicate at. Honestly, it's not worth that ram speed unless you have CL14 or less timing due to the 2:1 ratio you'll be running with FLCK.
Bottom line, leave it at 3700, FLCK 1850 with as tight of timings as you can get, CL16 or less
sullen crypt
@quick rose i never saw an option for FLCK is there any other name would it have in the botherboard bios
quick rose
What board?
sullen crypt
X570-GAMING-X gigbyte
quick rose
APparently it's under Peripherals. But if you leave it alone, it's tied to RAM speed. No need to manually set it
sullen crypt
so what u think is a good volt for the ram with 3700 just to make sure its fine
quick rose
Whatever the RAM spec is, probably 1.35
The only real benefit you'll get overclocking these is either with PBO or a manual All Core Overclock. Unless you get really lucky with a chip that will do 1900 FLCK
sullen crypt
ok since u have xp in oc same cpu get it to 4700 with 1.298 volt cpu temp on IDL 60c is that ok ?
quick rose
Boost is 4.6 so you're already ahead of the game.
under 1.3 volts is good
IDL temp is NOT good
That should be load temp
Are you doing this on a stock cooler?
sullen crypt
no water cooler
quick rose
Idle temp should be just above ambient, IE room temp
I idle at 32C on my 3700x
On a 360mm AIO
sullen crypt
so waht do u think i should lower the volt to get to 32C
quick rose
DO you have Ryzen Master?
quick rose
My idle voltage sits around 1.2
So
I think there's something wrong with your cooler. Either it's mounted incorrectly, the pump speed is low or bad airflow
Pump should be 100% 100% of the time
Only variable is fans
sullen crypt
from what i can see the fan work fine when the cpu go over 70c
i have 3 fan at the front of the case and one exit fan at the back
dull ginkgo
hm
4266mhz ram might be b die
which can eat up voltage like candy (beyond 1.35v, closer to 1.5v)
sullen crypt
yes
proven canopy
Set your ran to 3600 16 16 16 36 1.35v
quick rose
Ok, make sure your CPU fan is set to 100% then
So the pump is 100% all the time
I have a feeling your pump is running slow with a 60c idle temp
sullen crypt
its a iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT Liquid CPU Cooler corsair
proven canopy
If you can physically feel the inlet/outlet on the AIO temp difference, then ya it's probably pump speed
sullen crypt
so the only way is to have the is setting up the fan to 100 all the time ?
quick rose
Not the fan, the header you have the AIO pump plugged into
sullen crypt
do u do that in the bios menu coz in the cooler program dont have that option
quick rose
Yes. And actually, I'd plug the pump into CPU_OPT and the fans into CPU_FAN
Turn CPU_OPT to 100% in the BIOS
Set the fans to your desired curve
sullen crypt
cool ill try it out and let u guys know ty for the help @quick rose @proven canopy
sullen crypt
coz if ever ill just change to the NZXT cooler if this cooler not worth the time to give me good pef
quick rose
SO the fans get their power from the Pump unit also?
sullen crypt
ya
quick rose
Oh, it's a good cooler
So in the software, is there any control over pump speed at all?
sullen crypt
that the problem in the software dont show the fan speed only the pump speed
with is 1800 i think
proven canopy
Oh, also try setting your soc voltage to 1.1v
quick rose
My CLC 360 is 3000 RPM
proven canopy
Most important advice from all of this : run your ram at 3600 mhz, then work form there
sullen crypt
could be the thermal paste is bad or cheep
quick rose
Or it's not installed correctly. Wrong standoffs or not all the way tight or something
Can you see coolant temp in that software?
sullen crypt
no i dont i use nxzt cam
quick rose
Ok. Do what Forks says, double check your pump mount, make sure it's right
Check your idle temps again and keep the AIO fans at a minimum of say 40% for testing
sullen crypt
well do
quick rose
👍
sterile flame
I didn't upload most yet@proven canopy
final whale
i get 57 degrees on 3.7 ghz all cores on my 2600x should i oc or no
and any rx580 oc things
slate holly
does thermal grizzly kryonaut taste good?
vague gull
try some please
quick rose
Taste like chiken
slate holly
alrighty thanx
obtuse nimbus
does thermal grizzly kryonaut taste good?
Increase iq by 20%
sterile flame
You got champs rank
arctic jackal
Kinda a noob at pc stuff, so can someone explain to me what pbo is?
neon rapids
its like the magical overclock fairy blesses ur pc and makes it run better
quick rose
Exactly that
clever epoch
TIL setting voltage too high on your B die can cause instability. Installed 4x8GB b die on my x370 mobo, ran into memory errors with a long memtest almost no matter what I did (3200 to 3333, loosened timings). Dropped voltage down to 1.4 and the memtest passed
Have to keep GDM enabled otherwise my 1700X throws a fit and won't post above 2000 MT/s on the RAM though
proven canopy
Put a fan over the ram
clever epoch
What for?
proven canopy
B-die gets unstable around 40C
clever epoch
Hmm
tall pelican
also something tells me its not bdie if you're having trouble with 3200-3333
clever epoch
It is. It's just first gen ryzen
The memory itself is fine
As far as I can tell anyways
I verified with thaiphoon burner, etc a while ago
quick rose
Have you separated FCLK and RAM?
clever epoch
I have a 240mm Rad for my CPU pulling above the ram, and a Noctua AF-14 in the back. No way for me to add any more fans as far as I can tell
Also, you can't desync fclk with Zen 1
tall pelican
I verified with thaiphoon burner, etc a while ago
that doesnt mean its bdie
tall pelican
Yeah, desync fclk
and you cant desync until zen2
clever epoch
It's Gskill F4-3200C14D-16GFX
It boots and benches at 3333 14-13-11-12-28 at 1.4 V. Every source I've seen says it's B die. Pretty sure it's B die
tall pelican
3200c14 is bdie, but it should be doing much much better than just 3333c14 at 1.4v
proven canopy
1st gen ryzen tho
tall pelican
should be able to do 3200c13, or even 3333c13
clever epoch
Tried with two sticks. Couldn't boot at C13
With GDM (because 4 sticks) I have to jump to C12, and that doesn't work unless I go down to 3066
Actually haven't even tried C12 with 4 sticks. I had to go to 3066 with 2
If I could boot at 3200+ without GDM I'd be happy. Apparently it's possible if I set procODT to 80Ohms?
But I don't feel like messing with that at this point because I'm stable with GDM and 1T, and already I'm getting my subtimings down to 13
Testing 14-13-12-13-28 atm
BuildZoid says that tRCD(WR/RD) is more important than tCL anyways
umbral loom
well gn merry Christmas hope you get what you asked for 🙂
karmic solstice
If I’m going to oc like everything would 5 case fans and this cpu fan would be good enough or do I need more/water cooled?(or depends how hard I want to push it) Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B CPU Air Cooler, 120mm Single Tower, Intel LGA1151, AMD AM4/Ryzen https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYB8K77/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_PlJ5Fb0G9SY55?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
clever epoch
What CPU
karmic solstice
10850k
clever epoch
You're gonna want something beefier just for running stock imo
NH D15 if you want air cooled
proven canopy
That mugen is fine lol, but personally I'd go u12a
clever epoch
Idk if I'd want to OC a 10850 (basically a 10900k) on that
dull ginkgo
@clever epoch U12a has performance close to the d15 btw
I'd definitely use a U12a when possible, better clearances than D15
sterile flame
anyone in dis chat?
neon rapids
no
karmic solstice
Can you use more than one fan on a single cooler? I know they’ve got 2 sides...
dull ginkgo
You could
karmic solstice
U12a looks like it has already
At what point should I start looking at water cooled
dull ginkgo
@karmic solstice You'll never be forced into it.
karmic solstice
Wym
karmic solstice
At some point air doesn’t cool well enough for the amount of power going in?
proven canopy
Only if you compress and cool the air enough that it's liquid at standard pressure
dull ginkgo
Right now, there is no chip that a heatsink can't cool well enough
proven canopy
Then let it boil off to absorb heat
karmic solstice
How special of a case/fan setup do I need to effectively overclock my cpu/gpu/ram
Is it required/recommended to add a heat sink for each component?
proven canopy
Could probably get 5.0 all core on a d15 or equivalent, maybe 5.1 on the same chip with a full custom loop
Depends on chip lottery
karmic solstice
@proven canopy you consider u12a equivalent to d15? Seemed like there was some discussion about the two of those before
proven canopy
D15 performs slightly better
I much prefer the sound profile of the fans that come on the u12a, and it's much easier to swap gpus
karmic solstice
I don’t think I’ll go that high tbh probably will stop at like 4.5 or something around there haha I don’t wanna accidentally break my chip
karmic solstice
Why is that a underclock? Stock speed is 3.6?
spiral vessel
guys
my ryzen 7 2700 that i overclocked to 4.025 keeps resetting to default everytime i boot up my pc
i use the ryzen master software
dull ginkgo
So it's unstable
spiral vessel
im only overclocking because i think its pulling my gpu's performance i have a rtx 3070\
dull ginkgo
iirc I needed ~1.35v-1.36v to push 4.1ghz so
dull ginkgo
try 1.325v then
Oh and by the way
slight OC isn't gonna gain you any noticeable performance
it'll only be for fun
@spiral vessel if you're only focused on performance, leave it on PBO
spiral vessel
what is PBO
spiral vessel
where would i enable that good sir
spiral vessel
it has the option of Auto - PBO - and Manual
but i cant click precision boost overdrive
future feature in development nevermind
ima try bios rn
charred fjord
is it worth paying the extra 30 bucks to get the higher boost oc on a 3070
charred fjord
wait wut im not very versed in over clocking
spiral vessel
so im overclocking my ryzen 7 2700 to 4.025 with 1.3v
and everytime i restart it keeps going back default
._.
tall pelican
helping a friend with a 3770k, and ran into a familiar face lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mkGQhE1o2w
cold jolt
thoughts on 3800 14-14-14-32 vs 3200 12-12-12-24?
I can run the latter at a much lower voltage
dull ginkgo
For Ryzen, 3800 for the IF