#overclocking
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okay so it throttles always because of temps
You need more Airflow into the case then
my case has 4 intake fans and then 2 output
not counting the radiator for cpu
140mm all fans
If your GPU is temp throttling its not getting enough air
i cleaned it last week
are blower fans just dumb
well this is what happens when 60% of your parts come from a prebuilt
for this link you gave me how do i put this onto gpu
from the top where the transistors are or do i unscrew everything and replace the blower fan
remove everything, slap this on
I would just take that POS plastic housing off and replace it.
can i find videos on how to do the swap cause i really don't want to mess up the card
Its like 4 screws that hold down tha plastic housing
oh ok
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Will i be reapplying thermal paste of any kind
yes
@orchid flame thank you
you will
i see i have the cheapest rtx 2080ti
That stuff ahs a high thermal transfer rate
ok thank you guys
I just rethermalled my CPU and GPU and its the non curing kind as well. its a no name brand but i checked it online and it had a good thermal transfer rate and My temps dropped by 10c on both my CPU and GPU at full load
what is that blue stuff the guy put on his gpu
it liekly isnt no-curing paste if it is no name
its likely thermal grease
but alas
No It says it doesnt harden
okay
Type Z9, 1 fluid ounce. Silicone base, extra high-efficiency heat transfer. Made in USA. For mounting transistors, diodes, rectifiers, and resistors. Thermal joint compound for any device where efficient cooling is desired. For effective transfer of heat between components & h...
this isnt meant for CPus
and its more of a grease than a paste
On the Box it said CPU
I dunno My temps dropped on my CPU
Mine does say Heatsink on the Tube
It is a Silicone Based grease but it is very effective I will admit that
Temperature, Rating -40 to 400 °F
Wow, thats really not good
Most computer specific pastes are somewhere in the range of 6+ W/m.-K. and I think some of the new ones are around 10
Lol ya - AS5/chinesium goop generics are ~6, kryonaut claims 12, conductonaut 79, copper 400 W/mK.
I wonder if you used a thin pad of soft enough metal and enough mounting pressure you could fill the gaps between the cooler and the IHS
Like a thin layer of gold 😁
rip gallium over time tho
Galvanic Corrosion
Indium is quite common
as is gallium
I have yet to see tin used
Intel uses Indium iirc
doesnt perform as well as a gallium blend like conductonaut
@slim ledge galvanic corrosion likely wont cause anything to the die, its more of a concern with the IHS and CPU block (whether it be a waterblock or air)
yeah.
the point is that there are particular IHS and block materials often used to mitigate or stop galvanic corrosion
the most common ones are gold and silver
Gallium won't harm the silicon/die in any sane use case.
The problem is gallium/alloys in contact with IHS's that aren't nickel etc -
Gallium will displace Al for example, never heard that process referred to as galvanic corrosion, but it's to be avoided
Silver and gold work very differently to prevent galvanic corrosion - in a semi-conductive coolant loop made from parts of mixed metals - e.g alluminum and nickel. Silver is a great sacrificial anode, gold is just noble
either way, both are quite effective
Yes.. as long as you coat everything important in gold. Counts as rgb ? 🙂
People used to put little silver "kill coils" in their reservoir - most people know better now.
lol
so what about zinc being used in thermal compound then? Thats what is in my Z9 compound and it does seem to transfer the heat pretty well. Thankfully i have a water cooling loop with a non conductive coolant that thermaltake makes
But It does lower my temps and gives me a higher OC margin at the same time
Makes for great sunscreen in a pinch
But does sunscreen work well as white grease
I dont know. Never Used sunscreen really. I have a permanant tan from Fishing all day everyday during the summer when schoolw as out
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Planning to get an EVGA 2080 super FTW 3 with a r7 3700x in an
MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI
Do u guys think I can get consistent 1440p 144fps with a minor CPU OC and GPU Max stable OC?
memory is ddr4 3600mhz CL 16
Easily with a 2080
I have my RX-470 OCed to RX-570 speeds and I have no problems with stability issues
So I Dont see why a 2080 Super FTW would have any issues with running 144fps as long as the refresh rate of the monitor supports that type of frame rate
My monitor is fine, It supports 144fhz I am just confused with triple A tittles
I Run Modern warfare at 96fps on high settings. But I have to limit it to 60fps due to my Monitor
I use a 32inch Toshiba Regza 1080p TV for my monitor and it has a 60hz Refresh Rate
at 96fps I would periodically get screen lock
Look up benchmarks specific to your expected use case.
guru3d, gamersnexus, techdeals, whoever happens to have solid data on your game(s) of choice.
should be okay
after doing some research I found out that the card is basically a monster compared to other 2080s
factory OC with about a 4-6% OC headroom on the GPU and an average of 100+ fps on triple A games at max settings 2k
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@agile flame ive heard the msi gaming edge is kinds bad
Get t he tuf x570
ehh ryzen cpus don't really get much from overclocking and that board doesn't really look to be suitable for overclocking
yeah board doesn't look fun, but you can still benefit from overclocking a 2600. i got mine to 4ghz, others to 4.1-4.2ghz, but dunno how well the stock cooler can handle it
with lower voltage
I don't think the stock cooler can handle heavy overclocking
yeah gpu should be fine
I think that mobo can oc ram too, might want to double check about that tho
So gpu and ram are good but cpu isn’t?
Cause I building a specific build called spectre v2 and the motherboard intended is the AsRock b450m Pro4 but it is oos rn so I went with that cause that was advised as a good alternative
Or what might be better if you guys could send me a motherboard that is compatible with all my parts and is good to overclock I could just get that one
@sterile flame just curious, but the "Spectre v2" build you are talking about, could you link the original buildlist for that?
@hard ice everything the same just motherboard is called AsRock b450m Pro4 but it’s currently oos
i asked because it is not exactly a good build
do yourself a favour, and ask in #building-and-recc-chat what kind of build can be made with whatever budget you have. Because it must be possible to beat that build. @sterile flame
(i would do a list myself, if i was not on my way to bed (the joys of timezones))
@sterile flame check out the MSI Pro VDH max
costs the same
is overall better and presents a better upgrade path
as for Zen+
Overclockign Zen+ is fine
it does the job
2600 can OC
I dont see it as the MOST important though
you''d really benefit from that ram and GPU
so i've got 3000 mhz RAM and i want a performance boost on 3rd gen ryzen, do you think i could OC to 3200?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cdjpnk/ryzen_3xxx_series_ram_overclocking_community_sheet/
is a great resource for all things ryzen overclocking
@hard ice https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DCWpDx
This is my full build
It’s seems good to me
Can run most games fine. Like oc is not necessary at all for me just wanted to see if I could
@orchid flame so with this build ^ could I oc cpu to 4ghz a long gpu and ram
I mean GPU and ram woudlnt hit 4ghz if thats waht you are asking
No cpu only 4ghz I was just wondering about any oc for gpu and ram
Yo sup all so i have a 8gbx2 sticks in my mbo running at 2400. The max my mbo can go is only 2666. Is it safe if i overclock my ram to that speed? @ me with answers, ty.
@charred marten depends on what the rams max speed is
@sterile ridge idk some sites said its safe to overclock since they don’t produce much heat but i wanna be sure lol
@charred marten send your ram and mobo
@charred marten read the subtitle for this channel and make certain you understand what it means
@charred marten Yes it is safe to overclock your RAM to that speed. I had 16gb DDR3 1600mhz and safely overclocked it to 2200mhz with no problem by changing timings on it. It was stable and never had any issues with it either. RAM doesnt produce as much heat as a processor does and will only go as fast as you set it essentially. Now The MOBO does have OC capabilites of what the MAX RAM speed is in OC mode. if its 2666 from 2400 that is a safe OC as most overclocks are safe anywhere from 10-15%. anything over that you run the risk of burning components out.
Attempting and failing a high memory clock only risks corrupting your windows install.
Increasing your memory (or other) voltage(s) can risk component failure.
True. With the Overclock he is looking for though is a Safe one as it wont stress the RAM much and shouldnt need any additional voltage to get that frequency. Its more of a timings change to go from 2400 to 2666
@latent wolf but would it even be worth it at that point?
Depends on the Processor you have @sterile ridge If its a Ryzen yes. Ryzen loves RAM clock speeds. Intel no it wouldnt. Intel processors prefer amount over clock speed.
Amount of ram? Lol what
I mean if the timings rn are 16 2400, having 18 2666 isnt gonna be the best
Intel Likes more RAM available
Not so sure about that
You can get CL16 2666
It depends on his ram
That to
If he has e die, sure
I know my RAM is D die and I have it clocked at 3000mhz using XMP with CL15
But I do have a Ryzen 5 2600X CPU with 32gb of RAM
Why does the ram amount matter?
More available channels if all 4 DIMMS are being used
Sure 4x16gb would enable Dual Channel on the motherboard but you can do the same with 2x4 depending on the slots
Its just from my experience that Intel CPUs are RAM hungry and the more you have in the system the better they work.
4x16? You mean 4x8?
It will only work better if you need more ram
If you arent using 16gb on intel, its fine
Same with ryzen
May be. I can only speak from my experience with Intel processors
Ryzen responds better with a higher RAM clock. You can have 8gb at 3600mhz and Ryzen will run amazing but 8gb at 2200mhz the system will seem slow.
Something to do with the drivers or just the way the CPU is coded. Im not sure which one it is. It might be neither
Neither
Most Ryzen CPUs are built with what they call CCX's. One CCX is generally composed of four full fledged cores and some amount of L3 cache. A typical Ryzen 7 chip will have two of these CCX's on one package.
The thing is that these two CCXs need to communicate with each other. That's where something what AMD calls Infinity Fabric comes in. This technology allows these two CCXs (and more if we're talking about Threadripper) to communicate with each other. However, as fast as it needs to be, priority of resources are often "bottlenecked" by the RAM speed since the infinity fabric is tied with the speed of the memory controller.
Therefore, if the memory speed is faster, communication and processing becomes more efficient. This is different with Intel as I believe the memory controller is fully separate from their processing cores (keep in mind it's still all in one package).
Word blob sorry
Its cool
Ok That would make sense why a Ryzen Works better with RAM speed
It allows the CCX's to communicate faster and not be bottlenecked
Exactly
So the theory that Ryzen runs better at highere clock speeds is correct
It was just more detailed than I originall thought
Much more
Yeah
I have my R5 clocked at 4.0ghz on all cores. Max Turbo Ive seen is like 4.8ghz on all cores. But If I used LN2 cooling I could clock it at like 5.6ghz. Thats a crazy clock speed
Nice copy pasta Flex.
I never said I knew that myself
Thought it was quite obvious I didnt write that in 2 minutes
One of the techies sent me a list of CPU and RAM overclock settings. On LN2 its possible but with plain Liquid Cooling I highly doubt it
5.8 is world record rn
That would explain the High Clock speed
They had the cpu at like 1.76v
@latent wolf the highest they get on aio is 4.5ghz
Ok Makes sense
Highest on custom water is 4.5ghz too
Probably with a 240mm RAD. I get 4.0ghz on a single 120mm RAD
And I ahve no thermal issues at all
have**
Maybe on a 360mm?
lol the record on air for R7 2700 is higher than the record on aio, and is only 20mhz below highest on custom water
🤔 what do they count ln2 as
yeah probably xoc or something like that
Yeah
Only problem is it deteriorates so fast once it hits the heat and there is no way to cycle it that I know of
wydm?
Be Cool if someone created a LN2 Cooling loop without having to put padding around all the circuits
oh ic yeah
it Looses its cooling ability once it has passed over heat from what I understand unless it is cooled back down again
I could be wrong
yeah
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Oh Crap
they use wonk stuff like blowtorches for ln2 pots
they heat it up so they can cool it more
Ok
Bearded Hardware live streaming some LN2 x299 OC'ing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pmuxzgSwM
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The rare dual core 4Ghz 7700k
only 1 in the world like it
decent. below average. bad. jk .. looks cool
ur result is kinda bit low but not that low @blazing venture
yes
yours is oc?
yeah both test is stock then u loosing 100+ points not biggie ..
i cant imagine rendering a film frame by frame xD thats why it cost a lot to make it... yay
grind it xD
tap that score above
ow you beat it
nice
wait round 2 @blazing venture
??
😮
go on xD take your time hahaha
I didn't know it was a competition.
yes until you tap the full potential ahaha to go further and beyond.
it's better than my score
round 3 box you will be amaze haha
i cant wait longer @blazing venture heres round 3 xD
I know there's some silicon lotto involved, but does anyone know a safe method of GPU overclocking? I'm experimenting to try and get the most I can out of my ROG 1660 super and am not having much luck. I've been going in 50 MHz core clock increments and 75 MHz memory clock speed increments and been having inconsistent results
and by inconsistent results I mean random windows UI crashes
I'll just see a spike to 100% GPU utilization in afterburner for no reason and then bam
really?
afterburner makes it seem so insignificant lol
I'll try 10 MHz increments then
how about memory clock speeds?
@errant carbon consider this: there was a reason why we got real happy back in the day when we could finally do 1mhz increments when doing any OC
I'm just a zoomer man, I'm new to this stuff haha
i usually do 25mhz, if it crashes then its not stable
is there any way to bypass the monitor firmware limit on how fast it can go
like I oc'd my 75 hz to 80, but past it, it gives me a warning from my monitor
Yeah I wouldnt even know how to do that on a TV. Im Stuck at 60fps thanks to a 60hz Refresh
hello guys. I have a ryzen 5 3400G and it's idling at 1.4v. Any solution in the BIOS? I am currently using a negative offset to lessen the voltage spike when in full load.
negative offset is really the only option. Fixed voltage will never idle at anything lower than the fixed voltage. Some programs will keep the system from idling properly like icue and cam and certain temperature monitoring software. You can set the windows power plan to power saver and it should let it idle properly if software is whats causing it.
@dim plank
Who knows how to Overclock am locked Pentium?
cant overclock locked processors
not in the system he has
its a custom dell all in one
with a entirely custom mainboard
and i am mentioning it, so he doesnt get any ideas about it being possible and potentially fries something
lol
It can be done by overclocking the RAM. By Doing that You can also increase the Speed of the CPU. I was able to on a old DDR3 Rig I had from ASUS. When I overclocked the RAM it increased my CPU speed. Not by Much but every little bit helped on that system. Now Dell May have locked that option out of the BIOS. I wouldnt know without knowing what system it is that he has.
Yeah that Is AMD though. Usually You have to use XTU for Intel CPUs and that can only OC Extreme Edition CPUs typically.
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Keeph8n streaming some 980ti liquid nitrogen OC
https://www.twitch.tv/keeph8n
WTH??? How long will it run like that on LN2
Forever if I keep adding ln2
Lol ya, sandy is quite hard to kill
Ive never Fried a AMD processor. Never LN2 cooled a CPU. But The most I got was a No Boot to OS from system instability.
only cpu I ever killed from overclocking was a duron using a peltier. I don't remember the exact voltage I was giving it but the cooler couldnt cope and it went into a feedback loop and things escalated quickly. I don't know how hot it actually got but it didn't like it.
My thermal probes at the time were too large to get right next to the die so temps were coming from the heatsink a few mm away. I just remember looking over and seeing it way over 100C and jumping to shut everything off
I had these huge industrial temp probes that came from the factory my dad worked at. they were used on a machine that did rubber extrusion and they were used to keep track of the temperature on the extrusion line. They replaced them every couple of years and threw out the old ones so my dad brought them home to me. They went up to something like 800C but they only went down to something like -4C. I probably still have some of them somewhere.
I've only ever killed two chips. Athlon 64 3200+ when I stepped on it and a few of the pins got stuck in my foot and a 7350K when I forgot to clear cmos after running it on ln2. It didn't die but it degraded by about 150mhz on air
So my friend tried overclocking his pc, both cpu and ram at the same time. Which once he did that and restarted his pc and nothing booted up. His pc turned on but his keyboard and mouse wasnt receiving power, and his monitors were not displaying anything. Anyone can help me?
does it boot to BIOS at all?
im a friend of strafe and he says no it does not
reset the cmos
unplug the power, take out the little round battery, and let it sit for about 10 minutes or so and then put the battery back in and try turning it on again. that should reset the bios
the back side?
unplug it from the wall or that cord from the psu
but make sure its off first
ok
then take out the battery and let it sit
This guy sent his whole squad in here to find the fix lol
lol
there is no display on moniter and the keyboard does not turn on
how long has he left it on?
he turns it off everynight
i mean after reseting the cmos
he said less than a minute
he changed it from 3500 to 3600
changed what from 3500 to 3600?
but in DDR3? i dont think that ram really went that high
First rule of tech support: Try not to assume anything
his motherboard is ga-78lmt-usb3 r2
yeah the highest DDR3 I can find is 2800.
Reason: Bad word usage
the fx 6300 has a normal clock of 3500mhz
oh alright.
I'm not really knowledgeable on OC but im assuming he did it in the bios correct?
yes
he overclocked his cpu and ram at the same time. which i think caused the problem maybe?
That just makes troubleshooting harder.
do you know exactly what all he changed?
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yes he tried overclocking his fx 6300 from 3500mhz to 3600mhz and his ddr3 ram from 1600mhz to 1833mhz, or somewhere around there
i mean resetting the cmos just reset it back to normal right forks?
That's the first thing I would do.
Reason: Bad word usage
ok I told him to unplug the power source and remove the battery for 10 minutes. Is that sufficient enough to reset it on all boards?
Weggbot is going off in here
alright do me a favor, shut down the pc, unplug it, take out all ram except one and then try to turn it on again
I have a similar system but it’s a bit worse
It’s a FX-4300, 1050ti, 8gb ddr3, gigabyte ga-78lmt-s2 and 1tb hard drive
I’m still unsure about an over clock bc I don’t wanna fry my cpu
what kind of cooling does it have?
air cooling
Air
So it shouldn't have fried the cpu if it wasn't left on with the OC for to long
what air cooler?
honestly if you dont know how to properly overclock get a professional to do it
at least I don't think, but again I'm not a big OC guy
Reason: Bad word usage
Yeah I’m having my friend do it the next LAN party
guys watch the language geez lol
I don’t wanna ruin my system
I wouldn't OC that cpu though
Weggbot is going to act up
Yeah no
The frequency increases alone don't seem problematic - but maybe some voltages were changed
@echo zenith just because someone else does it, does not mean it cant go wrong.
I plan on going with a better mobo with a Ryzen chip and 16gb ddr4
one, the power gained on those cpu's aren't really worth it, and 2, theyre old enough that the chances of frying are more probable than a new pc (at least according to a friend of mine)
ryzen's kinda auto-clock themselves - better to let them do their thing. Unless you're going for hwbot scores.
My mobo has a "boost" mode or something which does a light OC for me lol
I want to find a good mobo
But I’m unsure what to buy. Also unsure about which Ryzen I want
I like the ASUS x470 or x570 🙂
post your budget and question in #building-and-recc-chat @echo zenith
ryzen 3600, x570 TUF
@hushed sky your friend still not getting the machine to post?
asus prime x470 pro to be more specific
what did he do to fix
well
What was i
its booting up
It
he did the thing where he removed the battery
alright
Ok 👌
Ah He reset the BIOS

o man
thats a funny looking ice cream machine
lol
@bright briar that's probably not possible with the rampage extreme
Oh ok
are the asrock b450m pro 4 and the gigabyte ds3h have the same amount of overclockability? I used a youtube pc build guide that used the asrock pro 4 but i ended up getting the ds3h and i now want to oc the same as the build guide video showed. Is it safe?
What chip?
ryzen 5 2600
You can probably overclock it a little bit but I would not push it too far on that board
@sterile flame ds3h is a worse board, and you have to remember that OCing differs greatly between person to person.
should i not oc at all?
Also, at that point in the video, he's talking about GPU overclocking
GPU is not dependent on motherboard
CPU overclocking depends on the motherboard
i have no NEED to oc i would just like to get the most out of it
so i can oc gpu the same safely?
You could always push it a little and see what you can get
Do a stress test
Furmark works as a good way to test stability
If anything crashes, dial it back a bit
okay great, so i just set my ram to 3000 mhz like 30 min ago and things seem fine. Mobo can handle that ram right
Should be able to
Run a game or something
I'm forgetting what you can use to check ram stability
So just a game works
alright, ill try and copy his video stress test then set it up accordingly
I dont believe in bad boards I say overclock anyway 😝
far cry 5 seems good right
all I know is I have a gigabyte z370 hd3p which is also a tier terrible and it is having no trouble OCing my 8700k to 5.3 on all cores... I'm just saying. I know vrms are not created equal and maybe I am lucky but I would still try.
my pc is fine as it is rn and i would like to get the max but i wouldnt wanna break anything for no reason
and either way you would want to also have aggressive cooling if not a better motherboard
i have 4 120mm fans
I mean the cpu cooling solution
oh
@sterile flame Is it a Ryzen 5 2600X?
Cause the X One has Overclock capabilities that surpass the Regular 2600
Bottle of r404a is on the way for my single stage that will be part of the 5ghz daily zen build
Cascade phase change for the cpu so it will idle at about negitive 105C and run at about negative 97C
Gpu will be on single stage
I am getting in some r404a so if everything goes to plan with building the single stage I should hopefully be able to run -35C on the gpu
Let's hope that you don't get any condensation issues, but that all sounds pretty damn neat
Idk why but at first I thought you had smth like this
https://youtu.be/kgnfvb2t-TQ
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That is halla expensive
My setup will cost about 2700 total
Which is still a lot but nowhere near what that would cost
He's lying - mythical is actually TiN's alt
That setup is probably 10 times what mine costs
And needs to be refilled
He's lying - mythical is actually TiN's alt
I wish
lol, really tho- TiN is in a league of his own.
They're not human
@latent wolf its a normal 2600
2600 on the gigabyte board should be good for a 4ghz all core overclock. most 2600's will max out around 4-4.1
if you are on the stock cooler you might be limited by temperature. It will easily get into the 80's at 4ghz on the stock cooler.
and that board does not have fixed cpu voltage. it only uses offset. So the offset is additive or subtracted from whatever the motherboard is calling for. If the motherboard wants 1.25v and you have a offset of +0.1v then it will actually get 1.35v.
That gigabyte vrm is not very good and the cooling go the vrm is awful
ya, but the 2600 isnt too bad going to stress it too much. as long as there is any airflow in the case I think they should be fine
A 1400 is probably already a lot of stress for that motherboard
I personally would not bother overclocking
You won't see that much of an improvement
at 4ghz its noticable. I tested my 2700x on a asrock b450m pro 4 at 4.2 and never ran into issues with the vrm. Its vrm solution is also pretty horrible.
ran my 2600 in the asrock board at 4.1ghz for about a year without issue
Now it powers my mighty athlon 3000g
The pro 4 has a better vrm and cooling for the vrm that the gigabyte
I overclock everything I can get my hands on and I would not overclock on that board
And if he is using something besides the stock cooler there probably isn't going to be much airflow
I wouldn't necessarily say its better. its a doubled 3 phase on the asrock vs true 4 phase on the ds3. The vrm cooling is similar on the actual cpu vrm, but the asrock has the advantage of the soc also having a heatsink. Atleast neither board covered the minimal surface area with giant stickers with their logo slapped on it. Neither board is ideal, but I still don't think it would be an issue getting to 4ghz and not having to worry.
I still refuse to believe in bad vrms until I see some 😝
Tier D Basic manages to get to 5.3ghz on all cores without issue
Tier D Basic (pentium, celeron, i3, i5)
Asus: TUF, Prime-P, Prime-Plus, Prime-C
Asrock: hxxx-Pro4, HDV, DGS, HDVP
EVGA: Stinger
Gigabyte: D3, XP, HD3, DS3H, N-wifi, s2p, n, m h, d3, S2, DS2V, HD2
MSI: A-Pro, PC-pro, Gaming Plus, Pro-VDH, Pro-VD, Pro-VH, Pro-D, Pro-VHL, Pro-VL
@lone igloo I will try to dig up the picture of my z370 board that had a hole burned almost all the way through it
All of those have dead vrms
Top one is the z370 one
but how many of those died on normal overclocking? Killing a board isnt something that most people will every manage
All died on ambient
Not all were vcore death
Some were memory
Dark was pch vrm death
Z370 gaming was memory death. It was rubbing 3800 cl14 4x8 at 1.8 so nothing that far out of spec
😄
Z270 apex were vcore
But admittedly I didn't have the vcore heat sink on for those at the time
how did you kill pch vrm.
the poor aorus z370 boards like lots of other z370 boards werent designed with good vrm heatsinks. so many people with thottling issues with a 9900k.
a buddy of mine ended up having to add the vrm's to his loop to keep a stock 9900k from throttling on the gaming 7
I can't afford to play with high end stuff anymore. My wife would kill me
I have thrown all kinds of voltage at my athlon though. took my 6600k up to almost 1.6v on air for a short run, but decided to save it for my itx VR build instead of killing it.
although I do still have some of my old 775 stuff laying around I could try some fun stuff with. I would need a new board though since my motherboard died
I had a p5nt deluxe, but it always had issues. Chinese power supply finally killed it when it caught on fire.
I also had a p5n7a matx board that overclocked well with some heatsinks on the vrm but it ran out of voltage adjustment and I never felt like volt modding it. I killed that one when I dropped a hdd on it while it was running. shorted something and I never took the time to try and figure it out
Only functional 775 board I have left is one that I got for free. an msi p6ngm-l I think. single channel memory. Very limited voltage options. I managed to get an e8300 to around 4ghz I think it was, but it was just sad.
It cant handle the q6600 very well.
The p5nt had bad issues with corrupting the bios. I ordered some extra preflashed chips on ebay at the time and would just swap them out whenever one corrupted and then swap the bad one back in and flash
soldered legs on one later so I could just piggy back them to get it to boot
I was done with asus boards after that. I have owned probably a dozen different asus boards over the years, but that one always had trouble. RMA'd it 3 times and asus just kept sending the same board back.
@sterile flame Ok I have a 2600X and If I try to go over 4.1ghz My System Fails to boot properly and the Bios Gets Reset
Does 4ghz work?
really? my 2600 is booting at 4.2 currently
Overclocking is different for everyone, and can depend on a huge variety of factors, including just quality of the chip itself.
ya, a cpu is literally a lazer cut rock
but because its so small, its cut imprecisely
well, super precisely from our point of view, but still loaded with manufacturing errors, so every chip behaves differently
sorry just got back home so I couldnt reply earlier. I get that some boards have vrm issues I have just either been really lucky or others are using far more extreme overclocks I have 3 tier D boards all with 8700k's all overclocked to 5.1-5.3ghz none of them have melted any holes through them yet....
all 3 are the gigabyte HD3 so maybe it just shouldnt be where it is on the list
I got my 2600 to the 4.2 I said earlier on a MSI B350 PC mate
I just personally cheaped out on my motherboards and then after I had everything and wanted to upgrade the motherboards down the line I couldnt find a single reason to
Not a single person on here would recommend that I upgrade so I think its silly to tell people with similar boards to not even attempt an OC and tell them their motherboard will melt a hole in itself...
I have run an 8700k at 6.4 on an f tier board and not had an issue and also run a 9900k at 5.3 on a low midrange board and blown the vrm @lone igloo
seems pretty random lol
6.4 with LN I assume
nice bet that was neat
Yeah but my room was in the mid 90's during December
And my room was constantly shaking from the compressors
Not to mention the noise
You could hear it from outside
did you insulate the mobo too?
No need to
nice
Socket heater
And cartridge heaters around the ram and first pcie slot
That was my 7740x on cascade with f tier tim and no delid
did you delid the 8700k? I did it to all 3 of mine after the great results I had on the first (I sent them off didnt do it myself)
Probably another 150-200 mhz left in the tank
the delid got me from 5.0 to 5.3 on all cores on the first one
Delid is very helpful
the other 2 cant get past 5.1 though
But the chip isn't mine so I could not delid it
that is true
I dont want to steer anyone wrong and I am not too familiar with AMD anymore but I have had pretty good luck with these tier D boards
Jesus
thats insane
bet that was super fun to put together
New one is currently in the making using reciprocating compressors instead of rotery. I will have to be careful with liquid floodback on the second stage so as not to explode my dorm but it should be near silent
That one I sent a picture of is so loud it drowns out thee delta fans at full speed
Rotery compressors are better but too loud for long benching
But are much more resistant to flood back
They have a build it suction like accumulater
isnt reciprocating more effecient?
But not as powerful and doest handle liquid at all
now we are slightly in my wheel house as I help design cold/hot beverage dispensers for a living lol
And a system failure with r1150 in the second stage is not something you walk away from without some nice hospital visits
yeah that wouldnt be good
like what 700psi
someday a metric conversion is going get me in trouble lol
The compressors need to be robust to handle near vacuum
And rotery are much better at it
And normally have more displacement
whats the power draw
1200-1600W
New one will be closer to 700-900
Dual danfoss SC compreeors one 12cc for second stage and one 15cc for first
I want to see pics when the new one is ready
you should film the build get some youtube views
Pictures of phase change units now that I can do.
Middle one is built by the best builder around
yeah it looks nice and clean
Bottom one is a dual sc12 single stage
Chippy over on hwbot has that one
My ram on cascade
when the dorm catches on fire we will know where to look 🤫
did the 8700k survive to this day?
That's the compressor I am going to be using for my chiller. Almost 4hp and 80cc displacement . The unit should do - 45C at 2kw load
did the 8700k survive to this day?
Yes it still works
jesus 4hp
Yeah I am going to have to unplug the oven to use it
its a beast
Got it for free
My work was changing out the ice machine and thew away the old one so I cut it out
1400$ compressor
yep a large ice machine sounds about right lol
Going to be using a 50 plate heat exchanger
Two actually
Going to be doing a water cooling loop instead of a condenser
lol which one could probably cool that cpu at stock speeds just set on top of it
Yeah
700 psi ethylene gas leak? big oof lol
It is at 500 now
hopefully on the first floor....
I am slowly getting the gas out
what does one even normally use a 50 plate heat exchanger for? a wood furnace? heated driveway?
Moon heating
Because I want it to be more compact and I am already going to have a massive loop
More modular
I am planning on mostly benching quad Fermi cards with it
whats that like up to 6000?
100000
@dark linden Yeah 4ghz Works No Problem. It could just be my motherboard. I have a Gigabyte B450 AORUS M, 32gb Corsair Vengence LPX 3000mhz DDR4 RAM, Ryzen 5 2600X OC to 4.0ghz ON all 6 cores
What voltage?
my 2600 will get to 4.1ghz stable on a wraith prism from my 2700x, but it took too much voltage to get it there. I usually run it at 4ghz now. When it was just a system to play with and ran maybe a few hours a week I kept it at 4.1, but since my kids use it now for school work and gaming it was running at 4ghz. When school got cancelled for the rest of the year and I had to setup it up for homeschool out in their playroom I set it back to stock so it will idle its running about 18 hours a day so I am trying to save a little electricity. 4ghz was around 1.27v, 4.1 took a jump to 1.38v, 4.2 was just to attempt for benchmark runs but was never really stable even at 1.45v and I never pushed it any harder.
every cpu hits a voltage wall, and the increase to get it stable on ambient goes up exponentially from there.
My 6600k will do 4.7ghz at 1.3ish volts. 4.9ghz is in the neighborhood of 1.45v and will crash from time to time. Never managed to get 5ghz stable and went up to 1.6v. If I had the equipment to get cold like forks and mythical it would have probably gone past 5ghz.
to be young and have have money/debt to spend on fun stuff again. I gave up in the early 2000s when all the big names started getting sponsored. Hard to justify to the wife why I need a stack of motherboards and cpus.
Even a complete potato skylake and later chip will do 6-6.2 ghz on ln2 minimum
And really good ones can d 6.8+ in avx all core
@dark linden Im not sure on my Voltage since I have it set to Auto for that.
Box went 
that's a car engine
Overclocking seems to have changed
Hey i need help
@formal wadi What ya need help with
Can i dm you so I can show u pics of my over clocking I have no clue what I’m doing tbh
Sure
Feel free to share overclocking related pics here as well.
Ya id like to see them too
He had His GPU way Overclocked and it would have fried
Thats a yikes. Good job saving him 
Okay well this is unusual.
I've been bodging together a server from an old Asus laptop I took apart about a year ago (it was in terrible condition).
It has an AMD A10-8700p CPU inside.
I've done away with its original cooler and am now using a desktop cooler on it.
Thats Actually a Decent CPU
I'd like to try overclocking it and see how it performs.
I had a A10-6700K in my DDR3 system
Yeah, I think it was thermal throttling like crazy inside the laptop though.
Has to be a black edition or a K series chip to really do any OC to it
I decided to take it apart once it started smelling of magic smoke..
OOOFFFFF
Oh peck really?
Yeah As far as I know. Thats with the Socket FM2 and FM2+ mainboards anyway
I've never done any overclocking before.
Now with Ryzen that all went out the window
How come I can't overclock? Is it locked?
AMD locks out CPUs designed for laptops due to the thermal solutions that would be needed typically dont fit inside a laptop
The current setup that I have is a desktop cooler, strapped on tightly using some spare jumper wire and powered with more jumper wire taking 12V IIRC from the sata power pins, since the fan header broke I think when the original laptop died.
So the fan runs at pretty much top speed at all times. The voltage it's getting is over what the fan is rated for. It's really silent though and keeps the CPU super cool.
Which is why I was hoping to get a decent overclock.
I mean dont get me wrong keeping the CPU cooled down is a good thing. But that Processor doesnt have any OC ability unless you can change the RAM timings in the BIOS. Then you might be able to get a little bit of a overclock but not much.
That'd just be a RAM overclock though, right?
The CPU isn't being oc'd in that situation.
Actually on ASUS Boards a Overclock on the RAM does affect the Clock Speed of the CPU. I used to have a ASUS F2A55-M motherboard and when I overclocked the RAM it also overclocked the CPU. Not by Much but every little bit helped
yes
Yayyy
Forks isn't a doe hard amd fanboy
Die*
You have no idea how many there are on the pcmr server
Also why'd the stream end?
it has nothing to do with fanoyism
lol
it just has to do with the reality of products
if someone says "Intel bad" just ignore them
brand generalizations are utterly pointless
unless we're talking about Corsair's ram
Why would you think I'm a diehard amd fanboy lol
anyone with half a braincell has the decency not to fanboy
@proven canopy we told him its really not worth it to get a 9700k over a 3600 cause he's gonna be playing at 1440p and he probs isnt gonna do a proper OC
and he thinks its about fanboyism
smh
you know chiller
I know what you're doing here
you come to the overclocking channel
which is mostly popul;ated by Intel CPUs
and you ask if a 9700k is good
and say that those who say no are AMD fanboys
lol
kinda petty ngl
O_O
9700k bad
for budget
Not Only that But I personally Dont Like Intel. I have had nothing but bad luck with them in the past when it comes to certain programs that I run for my graphic design stuff that I do for College and for Clients. I have had less problems with a AMD processor. Its not Fanboy type stuff with me its more of a practicality reason and past issues with Intel. Dont get me wrong Intel Based CPUs have their uses. They have better Server processors than AMD does. That I will give them. When it comes to Desktop Processors its my opinion that AMD is better at that.
I think mine was stable at 4.375 but I haven't done much testing on it yet
It sure made a difference after I plugged in the +4 cpu cable
I bet
It isn't safe to keep it there for any extended period of time
can "handle" it but
That's prob going to eat away at it's life near 1.5v
Yeah. Maybe a Year or 2 at most at that voltage. Most CPUs run for quite a long time. Also we dont know the cooling solution being used to achieve that either. Heat will Kill a CPU faster than Voltage and Clock speed
Yeah Thats 185 Farenheit
I like using celsius
Thats to hot.
Still The thermal Solution isnt working very well. Must be air cooled then. Would need a Liquid Cooling Solution to bring those therms down
Im running a 2600X at 4.0ghz and My Therms dont even get that high
Most aio liquid coolers are not better than a good tower cooler
I hit 65c under full load while gaming
Then again I am running a Custom 120mm Rad Liquid Cooling Setup
My Case Supports 240mm I just cant afford a 240mm Rad at this time
Custom is different but most aios have really underpowered pumps and don't work better than a 60$ air cooler
I honestly would never suggest an aio to anyone. They can leak, their pumps tend to die after a few years, they have mixed metal and they are not any better than a good tower cooler
Be less If I had a 240mm RAD
What cpu?
240 might only drop it a few degrees
Really? Even Though Right Now I have a single 120mm? I thought with a larger cooling area and a Top Mount RAD setup in my case it would drop further than that
You probably aren't putting off more than 200W of heat. Unless you have a really skinny rad it probably won't help a ton
It will help but you aren't going to be seeing massive gains
I wasnt really looking for massive gains. Just some drop in overall themrs to extend the life of my CPU
You won't extend the life of the cpu
Maybe even get a little bit faster of a overclock
And 2000 series zen does not overclock much
Even if you drop temps by 150 degrees you would probably only gain 500 mhz
Ah
You can crank the voltage but if you are really worried about degradation it is not worth it
Right
I do both gaming and Graphic Design on the same rig. Adobe doesnt seem to like the fact I have a 6 core 12 thread CPU
Well anyways
Adobe does not like amd
Thats a good point as well
Going from 4275mhz to 3800mhz dropped temps by like 30c
so :p
I'm underclocking it for folding
as much as Adobe can try, truth is AMD just makes up for Intels optimization advantage by just providing more performance
Okay I will get yelled at but I like AIOs for the look they look cleaner than tower coolers and I’d pay the price premium
Ok
@lofty totem if you're willing to pay the price premium for a good AIO, we don't have anything for ya
@dull ginkgo that sounds like we cannot help?
I was speaking on the behalf of #NoctuaGang
that context was not there :)
aye :)
I'm not against a H115i If your budget allows and you want the look
or a evga clc 280 whatever its called
i am personally quite against AIO's unless everything else is in your system is already absolutely pushed to the max
OR
you have a very specific environment where it makes logical sense to actually use a AIO
lets say, stacked systems with the aio's all moved to a gathered section for managed intake/outtake
(air wise that is)
aio's are great for silent systems as well. My little h50 on my pentium in my hackintosh build is so quiet and I have the other fans turned down to low. its the quietest system I have ever owned probably.
I do hear that the pumps on some new AIO's are loud though. both my corsairs were extremely quiet
this is a personal quirk, i cannot help but notice the sound of the water, which just adds to my dislike for AIO's :)
not all aio's you can hear 😄
very true Box
I like watee
I actually like the sound of running water so that would be kinda cool if when u turned your pc on it sounded like a little waterfall :)
My aio does that but I have to be really close
you have your own white noise machine
If I use my PC as a pillow sure
Sign me up
I wouldnt since its the wraith stealth but if you got a wraith spire for it you could do a little
I was shocked by how quiet a d5 pump is, bit of a high pitched whine - but I'm sure that it'd be nearly inaudible if mounted in a case.
buy an old fx cpu oc and cook dinner on it👌
lmao
Old Celeron cpu
trying to convince the wife to let me get a 3900x or maybe a 3950x. Not sure I will buy one now, but it will give me enough ammo if I hold out till zen 3 I can probably get one of those.
Stupid question, is Intel game mode that good or am I better leaving it off? (I also have an rx 580 for my gpu and 16gb of RAM)
Watchu doing
just testing something
To a search for water spigot lol
aahh
Hello?
Intel game mode?
Yeah
Mind sharing a screenshot?
I think it just sets an auto-oc.
But should I keep it on or off?
I can't imagine it'd be that harmful - I'd prefer to just set things manually, but if you like it on, go for it.
@proven canopy iirc that sets a +300mhz or something like that frequency boost over stock
What voltage should I try for a 3700x at 4050mhz?
😮
I like that voltage
Try 1.3v
What’s a good cooler for oc on a ryzen 5 3600? Or should I oc at all?
depends on if you want to
No reason to oc the chip for practical use - it does a great job managing itself.
Do so for fun/benchmarks/internet points.
I have it and that is true
Quite possibly
Change the security settings on it through the security tab. I did that and I gained access and everything still works properly. Its just a locked folder where Xbox Games and other Windows Based Apps are installed at
@jade pulsar ^^^^^
help a homie out
What Ya need
how to safely oc
Ah thats easy Dont go anything over 15% of the CPU Base Clock Speed
Also depends on the CPU
hm
What CPU you have?
Ah yeah GPU overclocks are alot trickier than a CPU
Im using msi afterburner
Like I have my RX-470 running at RX-570 clock speeds and I havent had any problems
What GPU you have?
5700xt
I would still go with the 15% margin though
ok
Thats more due to thermal issues that may come up.
You may or may not get more FPS by overclocking
Yeah thats not much
When I overclocked my GPU to RX-570 specs I got better FPS but it got even better when I increased the Overclock on my CPU
Like I can run Modern Warfare at like 92fps but am limited to 60fps by the TV screen I use for my monitor
Yeah. Its a 32" 1080p Flat screen TV
thats pretty good
Yeah thats pretty dam good if you ask me
It is OCed to 570 specs though so that helps it out as well
Yeah. Its mostly the Clock speeds that changed
Thats why I can run my 470 at 570 speeds
Probably
is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the Ryzen 5 3600 able to cool it when your overclocking it?
when overclocking you should get a better cooler, however any decently good cooler should work
thx
can someone help me overclock my GPU? I have it maxed and ran the benchmark and nothing really happened. All worked but no clue
I have an i5 8500H and a 1050TI.
......
Lmao
you're going back to intel
So much time wasted...
yep...
Also whats up with that case choice?
Ya lol
kinda funny they wanted us to move the budget down to 1500$ when we mentioned amd
and the 1500$ amd build has as much processing power as that
Every time I look at that list I wince at something else 😂
Totally
My System is a Ryzen build and it would cost about 1200 new. Not bad when I can play MW at 92fps with OCs applied to both CPU an GPU
@knotty talon Intel or ryzen
@hard ice im going to toss in a thermaltake throughpower platinum and hope that the psu was the root of the issue /fingerscrossed wont be here till next week though. the other PSU i have on hand is a 650 and it wont power this system
toughpower*
@ornate yacht hmm
something else for you to perhaps play around with
scale down the system as much as you can, component wise that is
its tedious work, i know.
but that is what i would be doing myself IF launching it into low orbit wasn't a viable option
I can’t over clock my i7 8700 no k right
Not really
Ok
Heh
Basically idk what’s happened but on aida 64 cache memory benchmark the results i got ages ago for my 4000mhz ram 4.8 core 4.7 cache i now get the same bandwidth but higher latency on the memory and all caches, any ideas? Tried upping core/cache voltage and vccio/sa, lowering ram clocks and raising timings didn’t fix the high latency
asking for someone else could you over clock a non k cpu if its a pre built by changing things in intel xtu
No
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