#overclocking

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latent wolf
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Also depends on his PSU as well

slow skiff
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okay so it throttles always because of temps

orchid flame
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doubt PSU is an issue

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@slow skiff ...

slow skiff
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like with the fan 100% temperature throttles

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PSU is chillin

latent wolf
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You need more Airflow into the case then

slow skiff
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my case has 4 intake fans and then 2 output

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not counting the radiator for cpu

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140mm all fans

latent wolf
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If your GPU is temp throttling its not getting enough air

slow skiff
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i cleaned it last week

orchid flame
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there you go

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that should help you out

slow skiff
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are blower fans just dumb

orchid flame
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yes

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there is 0 reason to buy a blower model

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they suck at cooling

slow skiff
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well this is what happens when 60% of your parts come from a prebuilt

orchid flame
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and they are as loud as it gets

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Just buy an Accelero

slow skiff
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for this link you gave me how do i put this onto gpu

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from the top where the transistors are or do i unscrew everything and replace the blower fan

orchid flame
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remove everything, slap this on

latent wolf
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I would just take that POS plastic housing off and replace it.

slow skiff
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can i find videos on how to do the swap cause i really don't want to mess up the card

latent wolf
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Its like 4 screws that hold down tha plastic housing

slow skiff
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oh ok

orchid flame
slow skiff
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Will i be reapplying thermal paste of any kind

orchid flame
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yes

slow skiff
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@orchid flame thank you

orchid flame
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you will

slow skiff
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i see i have the cheapest rtx 2080ti

orchid flame
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I recommend Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut

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as it is non-curing

latent wolf
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That stuff ahs a high thermal transfer rate

orchid flame
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its called specific heat

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but anyways

slow skiff
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ok thank you guys

latent wolf
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I just rethermalled my CPU and GPU and its the non curing kind as well. its a no name brand but i checked it online and it had a good thermal transfer rate and My temps dropped by 10c on both my CPU and GPU at full load

slow skiff
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what is that blue stuff the guy put on his gpu

orchid flame
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it liekly isnt no-curing paste if it is no name

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its likely thermal grease

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but alas

latent wolf
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No It says it doesnt harden

orchid flame
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@slow skiff thermal pads onto the VRms

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you need those as well

slow skiff
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okay

latent wolf
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@orchid flame Thats What Im using

orchid flame
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this isnt meant for CPus

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and its more of a grease than a paste

latent wolf
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On the Box it said CPU

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I dunno My temps dropped on my CPU

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Mine does say Heatsink on the Tube

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It is a Silicone Based grease but it is very effective I will admit that

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Temperature, Rating -40 to 400 °F

manic helm
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Most computer specific pastes are somewhere in the range of 6+ W/m.-K. and I think some of the new ones are around 10

proven canopy
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Lol ya - AS5/chinesium goop generics are ~6, kryonaut claims 12, conductonaut 79, copper 400 W/mK.

cold jolt
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I wonder if you used a thin pad of soft enough metal and enough mounting pressure you could fill the gaps between the cooler and the IHS

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Like a thin layer of gold 😁

slim ledge
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rip gallium over time tho

orchid flame
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Galvanic Corrosion

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Indium is quite common

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as is gallium

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I have yet to see tin used

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Intel uses Indium iirc

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doesnt perform as well as a gallium blend like conductonaut

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@slim ledge galvanic corrosion likely wont cause anything to the die, its more of a concern with the IHS and CPU block (whether it be a waterblock or air)

slim ledge
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yeah .....

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the die is selicon so...

orchid flame
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yeah.

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the point is that there are particular IHS and block materials often used to mitigate or stop galvanic corrosion

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the most common ones are gold and silver

proven canopy
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Gallium won't harm the silicon/die in any sane use case.
The problem is gallium/alloys in contact with IHS's that aren't nickel etc -
Gallium will displace Al for example, never heard that process referred to as galvanic corrosion, but it's to be avoided

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Silver and gold work very differently to prevent galvanic corrosion - in a semi-conductive coolant loop made from parts of mixed metals - e.g alluminum and nickel. Silver is a great sacrificial anode, gold is just noble

orchid flame
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either way, both are quite effective

proven canopy
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Yes.. as long as you coat everything important in gold. Counts as rgb ? 🙂

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People used to put little silver "kill coils" in their reservoir - most people know better now.

orchid flame
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lol

latent wolf
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so what about zinc being used in thermal compound then? Thats what is in my Z9 compound and it does seem to transfer the heat pretty well. Thankfully i have a water cooling loop with a non conductive coolant that thermaltake makes

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But It does lower my temps and gives me a higher OC margin at the same time

proven canopy
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Makes for great sunscreen in a pinch

latent wolf
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Really?

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Its a white grease so how would that work as sunscreen

proven canopy
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But does sunscreen work well as white grease

latent wolf
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I dont know. Never Used sunscreen really. I have a permanant tan from Fishing all day everyday during the summer when schoolw as out

hard goblet
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geniuses gathered here xD

placid night
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Buildzoid is the best

agile flame
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Planning to get an EVGA 2080 super FTW 3 with a r7 3700x in an
MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI

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Do u guys think I can get consistent 1440p 144fps with a minor CPU OC and GPU Max stable OC?

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memory is ddr4 3600mhz CL 16

latent wolf
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Easily with a 2080

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I have my RX-470 OCed to RX-570 speeds and I have no problems with stability issues

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So I Dont see why a 2080 Super FTW would have any issues with running 144fps as long as the refresh rate of the monitor supports that type of frame rate

agile flame
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My monitor is fine, It supports 144fhz I am just confused with triple A tittles

latent wolf
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I Run Modern warfare at 96fps on high settings. But I have to limit it to 60fps due to my Monitor

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I use a 32inch Toshiba Regza 1080p TV for my monitor and it has a 60hz Refresh Rate

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at 96fps I would periodically get screen lock

proven canopy
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Look up benchmarks specific to your expected use case.

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guru3d, gamersnexus, techdeals, whoever happens to have solid data on your game(s) of choice.

dull ginkgo
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should be okay

agile flame
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after doing some research I found out that the card is basically a monster compared to other 2080s

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factory OC with about a 4-6% OC headroom on the GPU and an average of 100+ fps on triple A games at max settings 2k

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THX guys

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😅

latent wolf
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NP

sterile ridge
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@agile flame ive heard the msi gaming edge is kinds bad

agile flame
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Mmm, well I can always switch it out

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There's like 3 mobos around the same price

sterile ridge
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Get t he tuf x570

sterile flame
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Could I overclock this? If so how?

jade pulsar
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ehh ryzen cpus don't really get much from overclocking and that board doesn't really look to be suitable for overclocking

thorny oriole
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yeah board doesn't look fun, but you can still benefit from overclocking a 2600. i got mine to 4ghz, others to 4.1-4.2ghz, but dunno how well the stock cooler can handle it

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with lower voltage

jade pulsar
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I don't think the stock cooler can handle heavy overclocking

sterile flame
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I’m just looking to get 4ghz on cpu

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Could i oc gpu and ram to 3,000

jade pulsar
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yeah gpu should be fine

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I think that mobo can oc ram too, might want to double check about that tho

sterile flame
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So gpu and ram are good but cpu isn’t?

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Cause I building a specific build called spectre v2 and the motherboard intended is the AsRock b450m Pro4 but it is oos rn so I went with that cause that was advised as a good alternative

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Or what might be better if you guys could send me a motherboard that is compatible with all my parts and is good to overclock I could just get that one

hard ice
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@sterile flame just curious, but the "Spectre v2" build you are talking about, could you link the original buildlist for that?

sterile flame
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@hard ice everything the same just motherboard is called AsRock b450m Pro4 but it’s currently oos

hard ice
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i asked because it is not exactly a good build

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do yourself a favour, and ask in #building-and-recc-chat what kind of build can be made with whatever budget you have. Because it must be possible to beat that build. @sterile flame

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(i would do a list myself, if i was not on my way to bed (the joys of timezones))

orchid flame
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@sterile flame check out the MSI Pro VDH max

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costs the same

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is overall better and presents a better upgrade path

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as for Zen+

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Overclockign Zen+ is fine

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it does the job

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2600 can OC

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I dont see it as the MOST important though

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you''d really benefit from that ram and GPU

tacit solstice
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so i've got 3000 mhz RAM and i want a performance boost on 3rd gen ryzen, do you think i could OC to 3200?

proven canopy
sterile flame
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This is my full build

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It’s seems good to me

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Can run most games fine. Like oc is not necessary at all for me just wanted to see if I could

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@orchid flame so with this build ^ could I oc cpu to 4ghz a long gpu and ram

orchid flame
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I mean GPU and ram woudlnt hit 4ghz if thats waht you are asking

sterile flame
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No cpu only 4ghz I was just wondering about any oc for gpu and ram

charred marten
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Yo sup all so i have a 8gbx2 sticks in my mbo running at 2400. The max my mbo can go is only 2666. Is it safe if i overclock my ram to that speed? @ me with answers, ty.

sterile ridge
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@charred marten depends on what the rams max speed is

charred marten
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@sterile ridge idk some sites said its safe to overclock since they don’t produce much heat but i wanna be sure lol

sterile ridge
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@charred marten send your ram and mobo

hard ice
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@charred marten read the subtitle for this channel and make certain you understand what it means

latent wolf
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@charred marten Yes it is safe to overclock your RAM to that speed. I had 16gb DDR3 1600mhz and safely overclocked it to 2200mhz with no problem by changing timings on it. It was stable and never had any issues with it either. RAM doesnt produce as much heat as a processor does and will only go as fast as you set it essentially. Now The MOBO does have OC capabilites of what the MAX RAM speed is in OC mode. if its 2666 from 2400 that is a safe OC as most overclocks are safe anywhere from 10-15%. anything over that you run the risk of burning components out.

proven canopy
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Attempting and failing a high memory clock only risks corrupting your windows install.
Increasing your memory (or other) voltage(s) can risk component failure.

latent wolf
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True. With the Overclock he is looking for though is a Safe one as it wont stress the RAM much and shouldnt need any additional voltage to get that frequency. Its more of a timings change to go from 2400 to 2666

sterile ridge
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@latent wolf but would it even be worth it at that point?

latent wolf
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Depends on the Processor you have @sterile ridge If its a Ryzen yes. Ryzen loves RAM clock speeds. Intel no it wouldnt. Intel processors prefer amount over clock speed.

sterile ridge
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Amount of ram? Lol what

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I mean if the timings rn are 16 2400, having 18 2666 isnt gonna be the best

latent wolf
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Intel Likes more RAM available

sterile ridge
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Not so sure about that

latent wolf
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You can get CL16 2666

sterile ridge
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It depends on his ram

latent wolf
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That to

sterile ridge
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If he has e die, sure

latent wolf
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I know my RAM is D die and I have it clocked at 3000mhz using XMP with CL15

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But I do have a Ryzen 5 2600X CPU with 32gb of RAM

sterile ridge
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Why does the ram amount matter?

latent wolf
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More available channels if all 4 DIMMS are being used

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Sure 4x16gb would enable Dual Channel on the motherboard but you can do the same with 2x4 depending on the slots

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Its just from my experience that Intel CPUs are RAM hungry and the more you have in the system the better they work.

sterile ridge
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4x16? You mean 4x8?

latent wolf
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Ryzen on the otherhand like RAM clock speeds

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Yeah Sorry Typo

sterile ridge
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It will only work better if you need more ram

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If you arent using 16gb on intel, its fine

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Same with ryzen

latent wolf
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May be. I can only speak from my experience with Intel processors

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Ryzen responds better with a higher RAM clock. You can have 8gb at 3600mhz and Ryzen will run amazing but 8gb at 2200mhz the system will seem slow.

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Something to do with the drivers or just the way the CPU is coded. Im not sure which one it is. It might be neither

sterile ridge
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Neither

latent wolf
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Ok

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I know Jayztwocents did say that Ryzen loves clock speed on the RAM

sterile ridge
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Most Ryzen CPUs are built with what they call CCX's. One CCX is generally composed of four full fledged cores and some amount of L3 cache. A typical Ryzen 7 chip will have two of these CCX's on one package.
The thing is that these two CCXs need to communicate with each other. That's where something what AMD calls Infinity Fabric comes in. This technology allows these two CCXs (and more if we're talking about Threadripper) to communicate with each other. However, as fast as it needs to be, priority of resources are often "bottlenecked" by the RAM speed since the infinity fabric is tied with the speed of the memory controller.
Therefore, if the memory speed is faster, communication and processing becomes more efficient. This is different with Intel as I believe the memory controller is fully separate from their processing cores (keep in mind it's still all in one package).

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Word blob sorry

latent wolf
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Its cool

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Ok That would make sense why a Ryzen Works better with RAM speed

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It allows the CCX's to communicate faster and not be bottlenecked

sterile ridge
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Exactly

latent wolf
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So the theory that Ryzen runs better at highere clock speeds is correct

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It was just more detailed than I originall thought

sterile ridge
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Much more

latent wolf
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Yeah

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I have my R5 clocked at 4.0ghz on all cores. Max Turbo Ive seen is like 4.8ghz on all cores. But If I used LN2 cooling I could clock it at like 5.6ghz. Thats a crazy clock speed

blazing venture
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Nice copy pasta Flex.

sterile ridge
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I never said I knew that myself

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Thought it was quite obvious I didnt write that in 2 minutes

jade pulsar
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Typeracer

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5.6 seems a little high for ryzen

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But idk

sterile ridge
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It is

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I dont think intel can get that high

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Maybe on one core but

latent wolf
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One of the techies sent me a list of CPU and RAM overclock settings. On LN2 its possible but with plain Liquid Cooling I highly doubt it

dull ginkgo
latent wolf
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Dam

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@dull ginkgo You Know if that was with LN2 or Liquid Cooling

dull ginkgo
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Ln2

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Ofc it's with ln2 lol, that prob isn't possible on water

latent wolf
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That would explain the High Clock speed

dull ginkgo
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They had the cpu at like 1.76v

latent wolf
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Thats crazy

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Possible on water if you use like a Car Radiator maybe

dull ginkgo
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@latent wolf the highest they get on aio is 4.5ghz

latent wolf
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Ok Makes sense

dull ginkgo
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Highest on custom water is 4.5ghz too

latent wolf
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Probably with a 240mm RAD. I get 4.0ghz on a single 120mm RAD

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And I ahve no thermal issues at all

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have**

sterile ridge
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Maybe on a 360mm?

dull ginkgo
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lol the record on air for R7 2700 is higher than the record on aio, and is only 20mhz below highest on custom water

neon rapids
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🤔 what do they count ln2 as

latent wolf
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Liquid Nitrogen

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who Knows Probably exotic

neon rapids
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yeah probably xoc or something like that

latent wolf
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Yeah

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Only problem is it deteriorates so fast once it hits the heat and there is no way to cycle it that I know of

neon rapids
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wydm?

latent wolf
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Be Cool if someone created a LN2 Cooling loop without having to put padding around all the circuits

neon rapids
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oh ic yeah

latent wolf
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it Looses its cooling ability once it has passed over heat from what I understand unless it is cooled back down again

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I could be wrong

neon rapids
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yeah

latent wolf
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Oh Crap

neon rapids
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they use wonk stuff like blowtorches for ln2 pots

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they heat it up so they can cool it more

latent wolf
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Ok

proven canopy
proven canopy
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The rare dual core 4Ghz 7700k

jade pulsar
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only 1 in the world like it

hard goblet
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core2duo.

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is love

blazing venture
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not sure if this is good or not

hard goblet
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decent. below average. bad. jk .. looks cool

blazing venture
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that is stock number?

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I have played with OC at all

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I just ran it

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as is.

hard goblet
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yes

blazing venture
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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still more than enough for what I need 😄

hard goblet
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yours is oc?

blazing venture
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I did have ICUE open... I should close it and re-run it

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no mine is stock

hard goblet
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yeah both test is stock then u loosing 100+ points not biggie ..

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i cant imagine rendering a film frame by frame xD thats why it cost a lot to make it... yay

blazing venture
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ok so closed everything down

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not much change 😛

hard goblet
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grind it xD

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tap that score above

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ow you beat it

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nice

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wait round 2 @blazing venture

blazing venture
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??

hard goblet
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beat this xD

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still stock

blazing venture
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😮

hard goblet
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go on xD take your time hahaha

blazing venture
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I didn't know it was a competition.

hard goblet
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yes until you tap the full potential ahaha to go further and beyond.

jade pulsar
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it's better than my score

hard goblet
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round 3 box you will be amaze haha

hard goblet
errant carbon
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I know there's some silicon lotto involved, but does anyone know a safe method of GPU overclocking? I'm experimenting to try and get the most I can out of my ROG 1660 super and am not having much luck. I've been going in 50 MHz core clock increments and 75 MHz memory clock speed increments and been having inconsistent results
and by inconsistent results I mean random windows UI crashes
I'll just see a spike to 100% GPU utilization in afterburner for no reason and then bam

hard ice
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50mhz is a massive jump

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go slower

errant carbon
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really?

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afterburner makes it seem so insignificant lol

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I'll try 10 MHz increments then

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how about memory clock speeds?

hard ice
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@errant carbon consider this: there was a reason why we got real happy back in the day when we could finally do 1mhz increments when doing any OC

errant carbon
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I'm just a zoomer man, I'm new to this stuff haha

neon rapids
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i usually do 25mhz, if it crashes then its not stable

robust cipher
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is there any way to bypass the monitor firmware limit on how fast it can go
like I oc'd my 75 hz to 80, but past it, it gives me a warning from my monitor

hard ice
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you can fry the panel by doing that.

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just saying.

latent wolf
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Yeah I wouldnt even know how to do that on a TV. Im Stuck at 60fps thanks to a 60hz Refresh

dim plank
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hello guys. I have a ryzen 5 3400G and it's idling at 1.4v. Any solution in the BIOS? I am currently using a negative offset to lessen the voltage spike when in full load.

manic helm
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negative offset is really the only option. Fixed voltage will never idle at anything lower than the fixed voltage. Some programs will keep the system from idling properly like icue and cam and certain temperature monitoring software. You can set the windows power plan to power saver and it should let it idle properly if software is whats causing it.

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@dim plank

bright briar
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Who knows how to Overclock am locked Pentium?

uneven ermine
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cant overclock locked processors

lone igloo
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well I mean you can

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you can turn up the FSB its just not very stable

hard ice
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not in the system he has

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its a custom dell all in one

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with a entirely custom mainboard

lone igloo
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oh well then no

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needs a new mobo

hard ice
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and i am mentioning it, so he doesnt get any ideas about it being possible and potentially fries something

lone igloo
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lol

latent wolf
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It can be done by overclocking the RAM. By Doing that You can also increase the Speed of the CPU. I was able to on a old DDR3 Rig I had from ASUS. When I overclocked the RAM it increased my CPU speed. Not by Much but every little bit helped on that system. Now Dell May have locked that option out of the BIOS. I wouldnt know without knowing what system it is that he has.

bright briar
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Hmm

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Ok

latent wolf
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Yeah that Is AMD though. Usually You have to use XTU for Intel CPUs and that can only OC Extreme Edition CPUs typically.

swift anvil
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l

proven canopy
dark linden
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My 2500K on ln2

latent wolf
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WTH??? How long will it run like that on LN2

dark linden
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Forever if I keep adding ln2

proven canopy
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Lol ya, sandy is quite hard to kill

latent wolf
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Ive never Fried a AMD processor. Never LN2 cooled a CPU. But The most I got was a No Boot to OS from system instability.

manic helm
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only cpu I ever killed from overclocking was a duron using a peltier. I don't remember the exact voltage I was giving it but the cooler couldnt cope and it went into a feedback loop and things escalated quickly. I don't know how hot it actually got but it didn't like it.

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My thermal probes at the time were too large to get right next to the die so temps were coming from the heatsink a few mm away. I just remember looking over and seeing it way over 100C and jumping to shut everything off

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I had these huge industrial temp probes that came from the factory my dad worked at. they were used on a machine that did rubber extrusion and they were used to keep track of the temperature on the extrusion line. They replaced them every couple of years and threw out the old ones so my dad brought them home to me. They went up to something like 800C but they only went down to something like -4C. I probably still have some of them somewhere.

dark linden
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I've only ever killed two chips. Athlon 64 3200+ when I stepped on it and a few of the pins got stuck in my foot and a 7350K when I forgot to clear cmos after running it on ln2. It didn't die but it degraded by about 150mhz on air

hushed sky
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So my friend tried overclocking his pc, both cpu and ram at the same time. Which once he did that and restarted his pc and nothing booted up. His pc turned on but his keyboard and mouse wasnt receiving power, and his monitors were not displaying anything. Anyone can help me?

tacit solstice
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does it boot to BIOS at all?

proud tree
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im a friend of strafe and he says no it does not

violet condor
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reset the cmos

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unplug the power, take out the little round battery, and let it sit for about 10 minutes or so and then put the battery back in and try turning it on again. that should reset the bios

proud tree
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do i unplug the cable from the psu?

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he*

violet condor
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the back side?

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unplug it from the wall or that cord from the psu

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but make sure its off first

proud tree
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ok

violet condor
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then take out the battery and let it sit

mild moat
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This guy sent his whole squad in here to find the fix lol

violet condor
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lol

proud tree
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there is no display on moniter and the keyboard does not turn on

violet condor
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how long has he left it on?

proud tree
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he turns it off everynight

violet condor
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i mean after reseting the cmos

proud tree
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he said less than a minute

violet condor
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give it a little longer than that

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also do you know what the specs are

proud tree
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amd fx 6300 and gtx 1050

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16 gb ddr3 ram

violet condor
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what did he try to OC? the 6300?

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also whats the motherboard?

proud tree
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he changed it from 3500 to 3600

violet condor
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changed what from 3500 to 3600?

mild moat
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Ram and cpu was said earlier

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So I'm assuming ram here

violet condor
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but in DDR3? i dont think that ram really went that high

hard ice
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First rule of tech support: Try not to assume anything

hushed sky
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his motherboard is ga-78lmt-usb3 r2

violet condor
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yeah the highest DDR3 I can find is 2800.

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hard ice
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the fx 6300 has a normal clock of 3500mhz

violet condor
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oh alright.

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I'm not really knowledgeable on OC but im assuming he did it in the bios correct?

hushed sky
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yes

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he overclocked his cpu and ram at the same time. which i think caused the problem maybe?

proven canopy
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That just makes troubleshooting harder.

violet condor
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do you know exactly what all he changed?

proud tree
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:0

sullen patio
hushed sky
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yes he tried overclocking his fx 6300 from 3500mhz to 3600mhz and his ddr3 ram from 1600mhz to 1833mhz, or somewhere around there

violet condor
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i mean resetting the cmos just reset it back to normal right forks?

proven canopy
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That's the first thing I would do.

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violet condor
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ok I told him to unplug the power source and remove the battery for 10 minutes. Is that sufficient enough to reset it on all boards?

mild moat
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Weggbot is going off in here

proven canopy
#

That's also what I would do.

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(and reset the cmos while power is removed)

violet condor
#

alright do me a favor, shut down the pc, unplug it, take out all ram except one and then try to turn it on again

echo zenith
#

I have a similar system but it’s a bit worse
It’s a FX-4300, 1050ti, 8gb ddr3, gigabyte ga-78lmt-s2 and 1tb hard drive

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I’m still unsure about an over clock bc I don’t wanna fry my cpu

vapid berry
#

what kind of cooling does it have?

hushed sky
#

air cooling

echo zenith
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Air

violet condor
#

So it shouldn't have fried the cpu if it wasn't left on with the OC for to long

vapid berry
#

what air cooler?

sullen patio
#

honestly if you dont know how to properly overclock get a professional to do it

violet condor
#

at least I don't think, but again I'm not a big OC guy

left bladeBOT
#
Strafe#7952 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

echo zenith
#

Yeah I’m having my friend do it the next LAN party

violet condor
#

guys watch the language geez lol

echo zenith
#

I don’t wanna ruin my system

violet condor
#

I wouldn't OC that cpu though

mild moat
#

Weggbot is going to act up

echo zenith
#

Yeah no

proven canopy
#

The frequency increases alone don't seem problematic - but maybe some voltages were changed

hard ice
#

@echo zenith just because someone else does it, does not mean it cant go wrong.

echo zenith
#

I plan on going with a better mobo with a Ryzen chip and 16gb ddr4

violet condor
#

one, the power gained on those cpu's aren't really worth it, and 2, theyre old enough that the chances of frying are more probable than a new pc (at least according to a friend of mine)

echo zenith
#

Yeah

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I got the computer with a monitor keyboard and mouse for $300

proven canopy
#

ryzen's kinda auto-clock themselves - better to let them do their thing. Unless you're going for hwbot scores.

violet condor
#

My mobo has a "boost" mode or something which does a light OC for me lol

echo zenith
#

I want to find a good mobo

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But I’m unsure what to buy. Also unsure about which Ryzen I want

violet condor
#

I like the ASUS x470 or x570 🙂

hard ice
proven canopy
#

ryzen 3600, x570 TUF

hard ice
#

@hushed sky your friend still not getting the machine to post?

violet condor
#

asus prime x470 pro to be more specific

hushed sky
#

yeah he got it fixed

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its all g

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thanks boys

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its booting up

violet condor
#

what did he do to fix

hushed sky
#

well

mild moat
#

What was i

hushed sky
#

its booting up

mild moat
#

It

hushed sky
#

he did the thing where he removed the battery

violet condor
#

alright

mild moat
#

Ok 👌

latent wolf
#

Ah He reset the BIOS

dark linden
#

4040 12-11-11-28 1t

vapid berry
dark linden
#

Lga 775 on ln2

vapid berry
#

o man

mild moat
#

Dang

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Thsts crazy impressive

fallow bison
#

thats a funny looking ice cream machine

jade pulsar
#

lol

bright briar
#

Nice

#

Trying to go for 7 GHz?

dark linden
#

@bright briar that's probably not possible with the rampage extreme

bright briar
#

Oh ok

sterile flame
#

are the asrock b450m pro 4 and the gigabyte ds3h have the same amount of overclockability? I used a youtube pc build guide that used the asrock pro 4 but i ended up getting the ds3h and i now want to oc the same as the build guide video showed. Is it safe?

dark linden
#

What chip?

sterile flame
#

ryzen 5 2600

dark linden
#

You can probably overclock it a little bit but I would not push it too far on that board

sterile flame
#

this is thevideo,at 10:46 he shows how to oc

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could it do the amount he shows?

dull ginkgo
#

@sterile flame ds3h is a worse board, and you have to remember that OCing differs greatly between person to person.

sterile flame
#

should i not oc at all?

dull ginkgo
#

Also, at that point in the video, he's talking about GPU overclocking

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GPU is not dependent on motherboard

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CPU overclocking depends on the motherboard

sterile flame
#

i have no NEED to oc i would just like to get the most out of it

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so i can oc gpu the same safely?

dull ginkgo
#

You could always push it a little and see what you can get

sterile flame
#

the cpu?

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or everything

dull ginkgo
#

GPU

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I would not recommend overclocking your CPU on that board

sterile flame
#

how would i test stability

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okay

dull ginkgo
#

Do a stress test

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Furmark works as a good way to test stability

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If anything crashes, dial it back a bit

sterile flame
#

okay great, so i just set my ram to 3000 mhz like 30 min ago and things seem fine. Mobo can handle that ram right

dull ginkgo
#

Should be able to

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Run a game or something

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I'm forgetting what you can use to check ram stability

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So just a game works

sterile flame
#

alright, ill try and copy his video stress test then set it up accordingly

lone igloo
#

I dont believe in bad boards I say overclock anyway 😝

sterile flame
#

far cry 5 seems good right

dull ginkgo
#

Nilboggen it was tier E on the tier list lol

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Sure

lone igloo
#

all I know is I have a gigabyte z370 hd3p which is also a tier terrible and it is having no trouble OCing my 8700k to 5.3 on all cores... I'm just saying. I know vrms are not created equal and maybe I am lucky but I would still try.

sterile flame
#

my pc is fine as it is rn and i would like to get the max but i wouldnt wanna break anything for no reason

lone igloo
#

and either way you would want to also have aggressive cooling if not a better motherboard

sterile flame
#

i have 4 120mm fans

lone igloo
#

I mean the cpu cooling solution

sterile flame
#

oh

latent wolf
#

@sterile flame Is it a Ryzen 5 2600X?

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Cause the X One has Overclock capabilities that surpass the Regular 2600

dull ginkgo
#

Looks like I bricked my pc or smth in 3 days

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lol

dark linden
#

Bottle of r404a is on the way for my single stage that will be part of the 5ghz daily zen build

dull ginkgo
#

Quite interesting

#

Closed loop?

dark linden
#

Cascade phase change for the cpu so it will idle at about negitive 105C and run at about negative 97C

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Gpu will be on single stage

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I am getting in some r404a so if everything goes to plan with building the single stage I should hopefully be able to run -35C on the gpu

dull ginkgo
#

Let's hope that you don't get any condensation issues, but that all sounds pretty damn neat

dark linden
#

That is halla expensive

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My setup will cost about 2700 total

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Which is still a lot but nowhere near what that would cost

proven canopy
#

He's lying - mythical is actually TiN's alt

dull ginkgo
#

Your setup is also really expensive xD

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Ofc

dark linden
#

That setup is probably 10 times what mine costs

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And needs to be refilled

#

He's lying - mythical is actually TiN's alt
I wish

proven canopy
#

lol, really tho- TiN is in a league of his own.

dull ginkgo
#

They're not human

sterile flame
#

@latent wolf its a normal 2600

manic helm
#

2600 on the gigabyte board should be good for a 4ghz all core overclock. most 2600's will max out around 4-4.1

#

if you are on the stock cooler you might be limited by temperature. It will easily get into the 80's at 4ghz on the stock cooler.

#

and that board does not have fixed cpu voltage. it only uses offset. So the offset is additive or subtracted from whatever the motherboard is calling for. If the motherboard wants 1.25v and you have a offset of +0.1v then it will actually get 1.35v.

dark linden
#

That gigabyte vrm is not very good and the cooling go the vrm is awful

manic helm
#

ya, but the 2600 isnt too bad going to stress it too much. as long as there is any airflow in the case I think they should be fine

dark linden
#

A 1400 is probably already a lot of stress for that motherboard

#

I personally would not bother overclocking

#

You won't see that much of an improvement

manic helm
#

at 4ghz its noticable. I tested my 2700x on a asrock b450m pro 4 at 4.2 and never ran into issues with the vrm. Its vrm solution is also pretty horrible.

#

ran my 2600 in the asrock board at 4.1ghz for about a year without issue

#

Now it powers my mighty athlon 3000g

dark linden
#

The pro 4 has a better vrm and cooling for the vrm that the gigabyte

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I overclock everything I can get my hands on and I would not overclock on that board

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And if he is using something besides the stock cooler there probably isn't going to be much airflow

manic helm
#

I wouldn't necessarily say its better. its a doubled 3 phase on the asrock vs true 4 phase on the ds3. The vrm cooling is similar on the actual cpu vrm, but the asrock has the advantage of the soc also having a heatsink. Atleast neither board covered the minimal surface area with giant stickers with their logo slapped on it. Neither board is ideal, but I still don't think it would be an issue getting to 4ghz and not having to worry.

lone igloo
#

I still refuse to believe in bad vrms until I see some 😝

#

Tier D Basic manages to get to 5.3ghz on all cores without issue

#

Tier D Basic (pentium, celeron, i3, i5)
Asus: TUF, Prime-P, Prime-Plus, Prime-C
Asrock: hxxx-Pro4, HDV, DGS, HDVP
EVGA: Stinger
Gigabyte: D3, XP, HD3, DS3H, N-wifi, s2p, n, m h, d3, S2, DS2V, HD2
MSI: A-Pro, PC-pro, Gaming Plus, Pro-VDH, Pro-VD, Pro-VH, Pro-D, Pro-VHL, Pro-VL

proven canopy
dark linden
#

@lone igloo I will try to dig up the picture of my z370 board that had a hole burned almost all the way through it

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All of those have dead vrms

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Top one is the z370 one

manic helm
#

but how many of those died on normal overclocking? Killing a board isnt something that most people will every manage

dark linden
#

All died on ambient

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Not all were vcore death

#

Some were memory

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Dark was pch vrm death

#

Z370 gaming was memory death. It was rubbing 3800 cl14 4x8 at 1.8 so nothing that far out of spec

manic helm
#

😄

dark linden
#

Z270 apex were vcore

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But admittedly I didn't have the vcore heat sink on for those at the time

manic helm
#

how did you kill pch vrm.

dark linden
#

I didn't it just died

#

Got it through rma though

manic helm
#

the poor aorus z370 boards like lots of other z370 boards werent designed with good vrm heatsinks. so many people with thottling issues with a 9900k.

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a buddy of mine ended up having to add the vrm's to his loop to keep a stock 9900k from throttling on the gaming 7

#

I can't afford to play with high end stuff anymore. My wife would kill me

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I have thrown all kinds of voltage at my athlon though. took my 6600k up to almost 1.6v on air for a short run, but decided to save it for my itx VR build instead of killing it.

#

although I do still have some of my old 775 stuff laying around I could try some fun stuff with. I would need a new board though since my motherboard died

dark linden
#

Good 775 boards are hard to find

#

Took me a year to find my two rampage extremes

manic helm
#

I had a p5nt deluxe, but it always had issues. Chinese power supply finally killed it when it caught on fire.

#

I also had a p5n7a matx board that overclocked well with some heatsinks on the vrm but it ran out of voltage adjustment and I never felt like volt modding it. I killed that one when I dropped a hdd on it while it was running. shorted something and I never took the time to try and figure it out

#

Only functional 775 board I have left is one that I got for free. an msi p6ngm-l I think. single channel memory. Very limited voltage options. I managed to get an e8300 to around 4ghz I think it was, but it was just sad.

#

It cant handle the q6600 very well.

#

The p5nt had bad issues with corrupting the bios. I ordered some extra preflashed chips on ebay at the time and would just swap them out whenever one corrupted and then swap the bad one back in and flash

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soldered legs on one later so I could just piggy back them to get it to boot

#

I was done with asus boards after that. I have owned probably a dozen different asus boards over the years, but that one always had trouble. RMA'd it 3 times and asus just kept sending the same board back.

dark linden
#

Two of my Rex's died on ambient

#

I was so mad

latent wolf
#

@sterile flame Ok I have a 2600X and If I try to go over 4.1ghz My System Fails to boot properly and the Bios Gets Reset

dark linden
#

Does 4ghz work?

dull kiln
#

really? my 2600 is booting at 4.2 currently

dull ginkgo
#

Overclocking is different for everyone, and can depend on a huge variety of factors, including just quality of the chip itself.

cold jolt
#

ya, a cpu is literally a lazer cut rock

#

but because its so small, its cut imprecisely

#

well, super precisely from our point of view, but still loaded with manufacturing errors, so every chip behaves differently

lone igloo
#

sorry just got back home so I couldnt reply earlier. I get that some boards have vrm issues I have just either been really lucky or others are using far more extreme overclocks I have 3 tier D boards all with 8700k's all overclocked to 5.1-5.3ghz none of them have melted any holes through them yet....

#

all 3 are the gigabyte HD3 so maybe it just shouldnt be where it is on the list

dull kiln
#

I got my 2600 to the 4.2 I said earlier on a MSI B350 PC mate

lone igloo
#

I just personally cheaped out on my motherboards and then after I had everything and wanted to upgrade the motherboards down the line I couldnt find a single reason to

#

Not a single person on here would recommend that I upgrade so I think its silly to tell people with similar boards to not even attempt an OC and tell them their motherboard will melt a hole in itself...

dark linden
#

I have run an 8700k at 6.4 on an f tier board and not had an issue and also run a 9900k at 5.3 on a low midrange board and blown the vrm @lone igloo

lone igloo
#

seems pretty random lol

dark linden
#

My point is that there is a risk

#

And ryzen doesn't gain that much from oc

lone igloo
#

6.4 with LN I assume

dark linden
#

Cascade

#

For daily proof of concept

lone igloo
#

nice bet that was neat

dark linden
#

Yeah but my room was in the mid 90's during December

#

And my room was constantly shaking from the compressors

#

Not to mention the noise

#

You could hear it from outside

lone igloo
#

did you insulate the mobo too?

dark linden
#

No need to

lone igloo
#

nice

dark linden
#

Socket heater

#

And cartridge heaters around the ram and first pcie slot

#

That was my 7740x on cascade with f tier tim and no delid

lone igloo
#

did you delid the 8700k? I did it to all 3 of mine after the great results I had on the first (I sent them off didnt do it myself)

dark linden
#

Probably another 150-200 mhz left in the tank

lone igloo
#

typed before I saw that

#

impressive

dark linden
#

Did 6.4 in single core

#

And 6.1 multi core avx

lone igloo
#

the delid got me from 5.0 to 5.3 on all cores on the first one

dark linden
#

Delid is very helpful

lone igloo
#

the other 2 cant get past 5.1 though

dark linden
#

But the chip isn't mine so I could not delid it

lone igloo
#

gotcha

#

lol they just let you cascade it

dark linden
#

Can still rma it if the ihs is still on

#

No proof of subzero oc

lone igloo
#

that is true

dark linden
#

That's the cooler

lone igloo
#

I dont want to steer anyone wrong and I am not too familiar with AMD anymore but I have had pretty good luck with these tier D boards

#

Jesus

#

thats insane

#

bet that was super fun to put together

dark linden
#

New one is currently in the making using reciprocating compressors instead of rotery. I will have to be careful with liquid floodback on the second stage so as not to explode my dorm but it should be near silent

#

That one I sent a picture of is so loud it drowns out thee delta fans at full speed

lone igloo
#

gonna have pistons in the next one lol

#

even cooler

dark linden
#

Rotery compressors are better but too loud for long benching

#

But are much more resistant to flood back

#

They have a build it suction like accumulater

lone igloo
#

isnt reciprocating more effecient?

dark linden
#

But not as powerful and doest handle liquid at all

lone igloo
#

now we are slightly in my wheel house as I help design cold/hot beverage dispensers for a living lol

dark linden
#

And a system failure with r1150 in the second stage is not something you walk away from without some nice hospital visits

lone igloo
#

yeah that wouldnt be good

dark linden
#

48 bar

#

And highly explosive

lone igloo
#

like what 700psi

dark linden
#

Something like that

#

690 something I think

#

Low side is at 0.2 bar

lone igloo
#

someday a metric conversion is going get me in trouble lol

dark linden
#

The compressors need to be robust to handle near vacuum

#

And rotery are much better at it

#

And normally have more displacement

lone igloo
#

whats the power draw

dark linden
#

1200-1600W

#

New one will be closer to 700-900

#

Dual danfoss SC compreeors one 12cc for second stage and one 15cc for first

lone igloo
#

I want to see pics when the new one is ready

#

you should film the build get some youtube views

dark linden
#

Pictures of phase change units now that I can do.

#

Middle one is built by the best builder around

lone igloo
#

yeah it looks nice and clean

dark linden
#

Bottom one is a dual sc12 single stage

#

Chippy over on hwbot has that one

#

My ram on cascade

lone igloo
#

when the dorm catches on fire we will know where to look 🤫

dark linden
#

Yeah campus security knows me

#

Trip the breaker a lot

lone igloo
#

did the 8700k survive to this day?

dark linden
#

That's the compressor I am going to be using for my chiller. Almost 4hp and 80cc displacement . The unit should do - 45C at 2kw load

#

did the 8700k survive to this day?
Yes it still works

lone igloo
#

jesus 4hp

dark linden
#

Yeah I am going to have to unplug the oven to use it

lone igloo
#

its a beast

dark linden
#

Got it for free

#

My work was changing out the ice machine and thew away the old one so I cut it out

#

1400$ compressor

lone igloo
#

yep a large ice machine sounds about right lol

dark linden
#

Going to be using a 50 plate heat exchanger

#

Two actually

#

Going to be doing a water cooling loop instead of a condenser

lone igloo
#

lol which one could probably cool that cpu at stock speeds just set on top of it

dark linden
#

Yeah

proven canopy
#

700 psi ethylene gas leak? big oof lol

dark linden
#

It is at 500 now

lone igloo
#

hopefully on the first floor....

dark linden
#

I am slowly getting the gas out

lone igloo
#

what does one even normally use a 50 plate heat exchanger for? a wood furnace? heated driveway?

dark linden
#

Moon heating

lone igloo
#

why the loop instead of condenser?

#

seems like it would be more complex to me

dark linden
#

Because I want it to be more compact and I am already going to have a massive loop

#

More modular

lone igloo
#

makes sense

#

going to get a new cpu for the new one?

dark linden
#

I am planning on mostly benching quad Fermi cards with it

lone igloo
#

whats that like up to 6000?

dark linden
#

100000

latent wolf
#

@dark linden Yeah 4ghz Works No Problem. It could just be my motherboard. I have a Gigabyte B450 AORUS M, 32gb Corsair Vengence LPX 3000mhz DDR4 RAM, Ryzen 5 2600X OC to 4.0ghz ON all 6 cores

dark linden
#

What voltage?

manic helm
#

my 2600 will get to 4.1ghz stable on a wraith prism from my 2700x, but it took too much voltage to get it there. I usually run it at 4ghz now. When it was just a system to play with and ran maybe a few hours a week I kept it at 4.1, but since my kids use it now for school work and gaming it was running at 4ghz. When school got cancelled for the rest of the year and I had to setup it up for homeschool out in their playroom I set it back to stock so it will idle its running about 18 hours a day so I am trying to save a little electricity. 4ghz was around 1.27v, 4.1 took a jump to 1.38v, 4.2 was just to attempt for benchmark runs but was never really stable even at 1.45v and I never pushed it any harder.

#

every cpu hits a voltage wall, and the increase to get it stable on ambient goes up exponentially from there.

#

My 6600k will do 4.7ghz at 1.3ish volts. 4.9ghz is in the neighborhood of 1.45v and will crash from time to time. Never managed to get 5ghz stable and went up to 1.6v. If I had the equipment to get cold like forks and mythical it would have probably gone past 5ghz.

#

to be young and have have money/debt to spend on fun stuff again. I gave up in the early 2000s when all the big names started getting sponsored. Hard to justify to the wife why I need a stack of motherboards and cpus.

dark linden
#

Even a complete potato skylake and later chip will do 6-6.2 ghz on ln2 minimum

#

And really good ones can d 6.8+ in avx all core

latent wolf
#

@dark linden Im not sure on my Voltage since I have it set to Auto for that.

blazing venture
#

amateur

mild moat
#

Box went gone

hard goblet
#

that's a car engine

manic helm
#

so much fluke

hasty hill
#

Overclocking seems to have changed

formal wadi
#

Hey i need help

latent wolf
#

@formal wadi What ya need help with

formal wadi
#

Can i dm you so I can show u pics of my over clocking I have no clue what I’m doing tbh

latent wolf
#

Sure

proven canopy
#

Feel free to share overclocking related pics here as well.

mild moat
#

Ya id like to see them too

latent wolf
#

He had His GPU way Overclocked and it would have fried

mild moat
#

Thats a yikes. Good job saving him Clapping

obsidian delta
#

Okay well this is unusual.

#

I've been bodging together a server from an old Asus laptop I took apart about a year ago (it was in terrible condition).

#

It has an AMD A10-8700p CPU inside.

#

I've done away with its original cooler and am now using a desktop cooler on it.

latent wolf
#

Thats Actually a Decent CPU

obsidian delta
#

I'd like to try overclocking it and see how it performs.

latent wolf
#

I had a A10-6700K in my DDR3 system

obsidian delta
#

Yeah, I think it was thermal throttling like crazy inside the laptop though.

latent wolf
#

Has to be a black edition or a K series chip to really do any OC to it

obsidian delta
#

I decided to take it apart once it started smelling of magic smoke..

latent wolf
#

OOOFFFFF

obsidian delta
#

Oh peck really?

latent wolf
#

Yeah As far as I know. Thats with the Socket FM2 and FM2+ mainboards anyway

obsidian delta
#

I've never done any overclocking before.

latent wolf
#

Now with Ryzen that all went out the window

obsidian delta
#

How come I can't overclock? Is it locked?

latent wolf
#

Yeah

#

Its a locked CPU since its designed for a laptop

obsidian delta
#

-_-

#

Not what I was hoping to hear lol

latent wolf
#

AMD locks out CPUs designed for laptops due to the thermal solutions that would be needed typically dont fit inside a laptop

obsidian delta
#

The current setup that I have is a desktop cooler, strapped on tightly using some spare jumper wire and powered with more jumper wire taking 12V IIRC from the sata power pins, since the fan header broke I think when the original laptop died.

#

So the fan runs at pretty much top speed at all times. The voltage it's getting is over what the fan is rated for. It's really silent though and keeps the CPU super cool.

#

Which is why I was hoping to get a decent overclock.

latent wolf
#

I mean dont get me wrong keeping the CPU cooled down is a good thing. But that Processor doesnt have any OC ability unless you can change the RAM timings in the BIOS. Then you might be able to get a little bit of a overclock but not much.

obsidian delta
#

That'd just be a RAM overclock though, right?

#

The CPU isn't being oc'd in that situation.

latent wolf
#

Actually on ASUS Boards a Overclock on the RAM does affect the Clock Speed of the CPU. I used to have a ASUS F2A55-M motherboard and when I overclocked the RAM it also overclocked the CPU. Not by Much but every little bit helped

odd inlet
#

I7 9700k

#

Is good

proven canopy
#

yes

odd inlet
#

Yayyy

#

Forks isn't a doe hard amd fanboy

#

Die*

#

You have no idea how many there are on the pcmr server

#

Also why'd the stream end?

orchid flame
#

it has nothing to do with fanoyism

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lol

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it just has to do with the reality of products

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if someone says "Intel bad" just ignore them

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brand generalizations are utterly pointless

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unless we're talking about Corsair's ram

proven canopy
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Why would you think I'm a diehard amd fanboy lol

orchid flame
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anyone with half a braincell has the decency not to fanboy

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@proven canopy we told him its really not worth it to get a 9700k over a 3600 cause he's gonna be playing at 1440p and he probs isnt gonna do a proper OC

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and he thinks its about fanboyism

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smh

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you know chiller

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I know what you're doing here

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you come to the overclocking channel

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which is mostly popul;ated by Intel CPUs

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and you ask if a 9700k is good

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and say that those who say no are AMD fanboys

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lol

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kinda petty ngl

minor harness
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O_O

dull ginkgo
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9700k bad
for budget

latent wolf
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Not Only that But I personally Dont Like Intel. I have had nothing but bad luck with them in the past when it comes to certain programs that I run for my graphic design stuff that I do for College and for Clients. I have had less problems with a AMD processor. Its not Fanboy type stuff with me its more of a practicality reason and past issues with Intel. Dont get me wrong Intel Based CPUs have their uses. They have better Server processors than AMD does. That I will give them. When it comes to Desktop Processors its my opinion that AMD is better at that.

steel oriole
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I almost finished a cinebench run with a 4.4ghz oc on my 3700x

latent wolf
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Nice

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I got my 2600X at 4.0ghz stable

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Anything over that and Windows acts funny

steel oriole
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I think mine was stable at 4.375 but I haven't done much testing on it yet

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It sure made a difference after I plugged in the +4 cpu cable

latent wolf
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I bet

dull ginkgo
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@steel oriole holy hell that voltage tho

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1.475....

latent wolf
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Most CPUs can handle up to 1.5 at the most

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Thats Just my Experience

dull ginkgo
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It isn't safe to keep it there for any extended period of time

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can "handle" it but

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That's prob going to eat away at it's life near 1.5v

latent wolf
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Yeah. Maybe a Year or 2 at most at that voltage. Most CPUs run for quite a long time. Also we dont know the cooling solution being used to achieve that either. Heat will Kill a CPU faster than Voltage and Clock speed

dull ginkgo
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I mean its 85c at the start of a cinebench sooo

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That might not be a great sign

latent wolf
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Yeah Thats 185 Farenheit

dull ginkgo
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I like using celsius

latent wolf
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Thats to hot.

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Still The thermal Solution isnt working very well. Must be air cooled then. Would need a Liquid Cooling Solution to bring those therms down

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Im running a 2600X at 4.0ghz and My Therms dont even get that high

dark linden
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Most aio liquid coolers are not better than a good tower cooler

latent wolf
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I hit 65c under full load while gaming

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Then again I am running a Custom 120mm Rad Liquid Cooling Setup

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My Case Supports 240mm I just cant afford a 240mm Rad at this time

dark linden
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Custom is different but most aios have really underpowered pumps and don't work better than a 60$ air cooler

latent wolf
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That is a good point

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Right Now with both Adobe InDesign and Animate open Im at 57c

dark linden
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I honestly would never suggest an aio to anyone. They can leak, their pumps tend to die after a few years, they have mixed metal and they are not any better than a good tower cooler

latent wolf
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Be less If I had a 240mm RAD

dark linden
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What cpu?

latent wolf
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R5 2600X

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Overclocked from 3.6 to 4.0

dark linden
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240 might only drop it a few degrees

latent wolf
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Really? Even Though Right Now I have a single 120mm? I thought with a larger cooling area and a Top Mount RAD setup in my case it would drop further than that

dark linden
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You probably aren't putting off more than 200W of heat. Unless you have a really skinny rad it probably won't help a ton

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It will help but you aren't going to be seeing massive gains

latent wolf
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I wasnt really looking for massive gains. Just some drop in overall themrs to extend the life of my CPU

dark linden
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You won't extend the life of the cpu

latent wolf
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Maybe even get a little bit faster of a overclock

dark linden
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And 2000 series zen does not overclock much

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Even if you drop temps by 150 degrees you would probably only gain 500 mhz

latent wolf
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Ah

dark linden
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You can crank the voltage but if you are really worried about degradation it is not worth it

latent wolf
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Right

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I do both gaming and Graphic Design on the same rig. Adobe doesnt seem to like the fact I have a 6 core 12 thread CPU

dull ginkgo
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Well anyways

dark linden
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Adobe does not like amd

latent wolf
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Thats a good point as well

dull ginkgo
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Going from 4275mhz to 3800mhz dropped temps by like 30c

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so :p

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I'm underclocking it for folding

orchid flame
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as much as Adobe can try, truth is AMD just makes up for Intels optimization advantage by just providing more performance

lofty totem
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Okay I will get yelled at but I like AIOs for the look they look cleaner than tower coolers and I’d pay the price premium

dull ginkgo
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Ok

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@lofty totem if you're willing to pay the price premium for a good AIO, we don't have anything for ya

hard ice
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@dull ginkgo that sounds like we cannot help?

dull ginkgo
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I was speaking on the behalf of #NoctuaGang

hard ice
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that context was not there :)

dull ginkgo
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But there are high quality AIOs

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I should've put it in :p

hard ice
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aye :)

dull ginkgo
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I'm not against a H115i If your budget allows and you want the look

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or a evga clc 280 whatever its called

hard ice
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i am personally quite against AIO's unless everything else is in your system is already absolutely pushed to the max

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OR

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you have a very specific environment where it makes logical sense to actually use a AIO

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lets say, stacked systems with the aio's all moved to a gathered section for managed intake/outtake

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(air wise that is)

manic helm
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aio's are great for silent systems as well. My little h50 on my pentium in my hackintosh build is so quiet and I have the other fans turned down to low. its the quietest system I have ever owned probably.

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I do hear that the pumps on some new AIO's are loud though. both my corsairs were extremely quiet

hard ice
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this is a personal quirk, i cannot help but notice the sound of the water, which just adds to my dislike for AIO's :)

blazing venture
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not all aio's you can hear 😄

hard ice
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very true Box

hasty hill
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I like watee

mild moat
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I actually like the sound of running water so that would be kinda cool if when u turned your pc on it sounded like a little waterfall :)

hasty hill
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My aio does that but I have to be really close

vale nymph
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you have your own white noise machine

hasty hill
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If I use my PC as a pillow sure

lofty totem
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Yes pc pillow new business idea

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They will all have noisy aios

mild moat
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Sign me up

last pumice
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Can ryzen 5 3600 stock cooler oc?

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probably not, but just wondering

mild moat
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I wouldnt since its the wraith stealth but if you got a wraith spire for it you could do a little

proven canopy
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I was shocked by how quiet a d5 pump is, bit of a high pitched whine - but I'm sure that it'd be nearly inaudible if mounted in a case.

proven canopy
spiral gyro
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buy an old fx cpu oc and cook dinner on it👌

dull ginkgo
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nah

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new intel chip

tacit solstice
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lmao

vapid berry
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Old Celeron cpu

manic helm
#

trying to convince the wife to let me get a 3900x or maybe a 3950x. Not sure I will buy one now, but it will give me enough ammo if I hold out till zen 3 I can probably get one of those.

peak flint
#

Stupid question, is Intel game mode that good or am I better leaving it off? (I also have an rx 580 for my gpu and 16gb of RAM)

mild moat
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Watchu doing

proven canopy
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just testing something

mild moat
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Ok

jade pulsar
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oldegg usa amazon

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apparently oldegg is a place?

mild moat
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To a search for water spigot lol

proven canopy
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It's an amazon seller

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Ignore this lol, just testing a bot function

jade pulsar
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aahh

mild moat
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Ah lol

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Aight have fun 👍

peak flint
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Hello?

proven canopy
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Intel game mode?

peak flint
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Yeah

proven canopy
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Mind sharing a screenshot?

peak flint
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Gimme a sec

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This

proven canopy
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I think it just sets an auto-oc.

peak flint
#

But should I keep it on or off?

proven canopy
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I can't imagine it'd be that harmful - I'd prefer to just set things manually, but if you like it on, go for it.

dull ginkgo
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@proven canopy iirc that sets a +300mhz or something like that frequency boost over stock

loud hinge
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What voltage should I try for a 3700x at 4050mhz?

blazing venture
#

😮

mild moat
#

this I like that voltage

dull ginkgo
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Try 1.3v

last pumice
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What’s a good cooler for oc on a ryzen 5 3600? Or should I oc at all?

dull ginkgo
#

depends on if you want to

last pumice
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I kind of want to match x performance

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@dull ginkgo

proven canopy
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No reason to oc the chip for practical use - it does a great job managing itself.
Do so for fun/benchmarks/internet points.

mild moat
#

I have it and that is true

jade pulsar
#

does bill gates own it

mild moat
#

Quite possibly

jade pulsar
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darn it bill

mild moat
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Bill rn:

latent wolf
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Change the security settings on it through the security tab. I did that and I gained access and everything still works properly. Its just a locked folder where Xbox Games and other Windows Based Apps are installed at

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@jade pulsar ^^^^^

noble terrace
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help a homie out

latent wolf
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What Ya need

noble terrace
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how to safely oc

latent wolf
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Ah thats easy Dont go anything over 15% of the CPU Base Clock Speed

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Also depends on the CPU

noble terrace
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hm

latent wolf
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What CPU you have?

noble terrace
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ryzen 5 3600

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Im trying to oc my gpu tho

latent wolf
#

Ah yeah GPU overclocks are alot trickier than a CPU

noble terrace
#

Im using msi afterburner

latent wolf
#

Like I have my RX-470 running at RX-570 clock speeds and I havent had any problems

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What GPU you have?

noble terrace
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5700xt

latent wolf
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Ah One of the newest ones

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That one doesnt really need to be overclocked

noble terrace
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I know

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my friend is flexing his fps and I need to beat him

latent wolf
#

I would still go with the 15% margin though

noble terrace
#

ok

latent wolf
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Thats more due to thermal issues that may come up.

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You may or may not get more FPS by overclocking

noble terrace
#

yea

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Ive seen a lot of videos and its only 6 percent in most titles

latent wolf
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Yeah thats not much

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When I overclocked my GPU to RX-570 specs I got better FPS but it got even better when I increased the Overclock on my CPU

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Like I can run Modern Warfare at like 92fps but am limited to 60fps by the TV screen I use for my monitor

noble terrace
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thats a rip

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92fps on modern warfare for a 470 tho

latent wolf
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Yeah. Its a 32" 1080p Flat screen TV

noble terrace
#

thats pretty good

latent wolf
#

Yeah thats pretty dam good if you ask me

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It is OCed to 570 specs though so that helps it out as well

noble terrace
#

my friend just recently went from a rx 480 to a 580

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not much changed though

latent wolf
#

Yeah. Its mostly the Clock speeds that changed

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Thats why I can run my 470 at 570 speeds

noble terrace
#

his cpu is garbage

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I think thats why

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maybe

latent wolf
#

Probably

sour marsh
#

is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the Ryzen 5 3600 able to cool it when your overclocking it?

violet condor
#

when overclocking you should get a better cooler, however any decently good cooler should work

sour marsh
#

thx

pulsar tinsel
#

can someone help me overclock my GPU? I have it maxed and ran the benchmark and nothing really happened. All worked but no clue

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I have an i5 8500H and a 1050TI.

somber bolt
#

Does this sound good to oc?

dull ginkgo
#

......

mild moat
#

Lmao

dull ginkgo
#

you're going back to intel

mild moat
#

So much time wasted...

dull ginkgo
#

yep...

mild moat
#

Also whats up with that case choice?

dull ginkgo
#

It's all messed up

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don't worry about it

mild moat
#

Ya lol

dull ginkgo
#

kinda funny they wanted us to move the budget down to 1500$ when we mentioned amd

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and the 1500$ amd build has as much processing power as that

mild moat
#

Every time I look at that list I wince at something else 😂

dull ginkgo
#

stahp

mild moat
#

You'll get super similar in game performance lol

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For like 1200 cheaper

dull ginkgo
#

mhm

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1400$ Ryzen build performs like a 3000$ Intel build

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Seems fair

mild moat
#

Totally

latent wolf
#

My System is a Ryzen build and it would cost about 1200 new. Not bad when I can play MW at 92fps with OCs applied to both CPU an GPU

sterile flame
#

92 fps?

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Kek

knotty talon
#

Hello

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Can anyone help to oc my cpu

dull ginkgo
#

@knotty talon Intel or ryzen

ornate yacht
#

@hard ice im going to toss in a thermaltake throughpower platinum and hope that the psu was the root of the issue /fingerscrossed wont be here till next week though. the other PSU i have on hand is a 650 and it wont power this system

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toughpower*

hard ice
#

@ornate yacht hmm

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something else for you to perhaps play around with

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scale down the system as much as you can, component wise that is

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its tedious work, i know.

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but that is what i would be doing myself IF launching it into low orbit wasn't a viable option

plain grove
#

I can’t over clock my i7 8700 no k right

proven canopy
#

Not really

plain grove
#

Ok

sterile flame
#

overclcok your mom

#

ahahahaha

#

funny

mild moat
#

Heh

sterile flame
#

Basically idk what’s happened but on aida 64 cache memory benchmark the results i got ages ago for my 4000mhz ram 4.8 core 4.7 cache i now get the same bandwidth but higher latency on the memory and all caches, any ideas? Tried upping core/cache voltage and vccio/sa, lowering ram clocks and raising timings didn’t fix the high latency

winter acorn
#

asking for someone else could you over clock a non k cpu if its a pre built by changing things in intel xtu

dull ginkgo
#

No

small spindle
#

^

mild moat
#

^

jade pulsar
#

^