Gonna break the 20 pointer barrier?
#overclocking
proven canopy
mental turret
im pretty sure i have already lol
jovial bluff
Can anyone help me so I kwasnt having any stablioty issues til i checked mark temp dependent vmin on in mpt but then i turned it off and i reinstalled my gpu drivers and everything and still having stablity issues since enabling that..? idk what it does… but I DDU and I restored my BIOS to default and still getting fps spikes and not smooth at all
mental turret
oh
jovial bluff
oh
When I move my camera around in game it doesn’t feel like 165hz at 165 fps feels like 60
mental turret
have you actually used something to measure your frametimes and fps and whatnot? like with riva statistics or something
jovial bluff
have you actually used something to measure your frametimes and fps and whatnot?...
Yea capframex
It was being bad even on stock settings with no oc
jovial bluff
Should my minimum frequency be at 500? Or should I put it 100 below my max
kind walrus
Put it 100 below max and* bring your max down
If 2600 is causing all this stuttering then 2600 is just not stable
Or follow Forks' advice and not use adrenalin for this
jovial bluff
Put it 100 below max and* bring your max down
Doesn’t it cause clock stretching though
My oc settings are fine I havent hsd any issues til I enabled that setting in mpt@
scenic vine
Having your min too high can cause clock stretching if there's something throttling
Like a heavier load (power limited)
short blade
can you run imlc/aida on this? i am curious LOL
sudden torrent
Binning time?
mental turret
No, I just spilled a tray of my good ram lol
sterile flame
Hello papis
Can anyone help me
okay
Can someone help me with uhhhh limiting my cpu wattage
since it stays at 88c idle
mental turret
If your idle temperature is actually 88C then power draw is not the issue here
mental turret
Are you sure you mounted your cooler correctly
sterile flame
Prebuilt from micro
mental turret
I assume it's been like that since you got it?
sterile flame
I guess
Because I only noticed that because dallas looked at my temps
And told me
After me being in bios trying to enable resizeable bar
And the fans have always been spinning like crazy
Kinda
mental turret
Yea, you should take it back to microcenter in that case. I assume it's still under warranty or the return period or whatever? Only been a week
sterile flame
Alr
sudden torrent
Also for future reference and others BIOS is not idle, it does put a load on the CPU constantly just not a big one
mental turret
(practically idle)
sudden torrent
It doesn't allow sleep states either iirc so that'll increase the temp naturally
restive sequoia
It doesn't allow sleep states either iirc so that'll increase the temp naturally
Don't think on a workload that low 88c is really normal or justifiable
sudden torrent
You're correct, I was just saying that BIOS isn't indicative of actual idle temps
ancient bridge
They could have done it wrong
Thats what i was saying
Even with a load it shouldn't hit 88
short blade
Also for future reference and others BIOS is not idle, it does put a load on the...
yeah my bios temp is a few degrees higher than windows idle temp
like 30-33 vs 23-24
more than a few I guess
pallid nest
Sus
kind walrus
You should have a look at moreclocktool or overdriven as well
jovial bluff
Instead of amd software?
kind walrus
Yes
kind walrus
And? If forks says it's better then use it
kind walrus
With Mct I would always have to set the overlcocks though manually everytime
Forks has some ridiculously good results with rdna 2 cards, I would take his advice over mine
Strongly suggest moreclocktool or overdriven
jovial bluff
Forks has some ridiculously good results with rdna 2 cards, I would take his adv...
Oh bet
@proven canopy
What about cpu fan temps
And tower fans
What should they be at
proven canopy
Forks has some ridiculously good results with rdna 2 cards, I would take his adv...
Lol, hardly, also I've gotten pretty bad bin luck. My ref 6900xt seems good, but those are locked to 3000mhz...
You should ask @humble jay for advice 
jovial bluff
Welp
kind walrus
Lol, hardly, also I've gotten pretty bad bin luck. My ref 6900xt seems good, bu...
24K on a 6800XT is more than enough proof for me
humble jay
69XT OCF
proven canopy
I forget what sub the 24k was, the card was on ln2 though. Probably 8c8t 12900k @ ghz ecores off. I wish I ran once with all enabled for a higher total score.
jovial bluff
?
mental turret
proven canopy
jovial bluff
?
jovial bluff
?
kind walrus
?
zenith palm
ahh you needa turn off windows driver auto update for some reason they have an issue with amd atm
jovial bluff
ahh you needa turn off windows driver auto update for some reason they have an i...
ooh
zenith palm
also ddu in safe mode
jovial bluff
yea i did
thats what i dont get lol-
so do i pause it the auto update.. and then do a safe ddu in safe mode ?
how do ik when to turn the drivers back on
i just did that
zenith palm
you have an amd cpu? chipset drivers will go in there
zenith palm
try factory clean install with adrenalin instead?
jovial bluff
the one in program files shows something else
zenith palm
Tried an older version?
jovial bluff
that is
dull ginkgo
Straight up delete previous adrenalin version then
jovial bluff
DDU did that
dull ginkgo
iirc ddu has options for deleting software too or just drivers
jovial bluff
dull ginkgo
deleted from appdata too right
dull ginkgo
If you're deleting all the AMD related software, delete the AMD folder
jovial bluff
jovial bluff
If you're deleting all the AMD related software, delete the AMD folder
Well idk if that AMD folder is my software though..
@dull ginkgo
dull ginkgo
yay to windows update settings
dull ginkgo
turn them back on whenever you need them
jovial bluff
And how do Ik when that is lol-
Iv never had thee problems with my other pc I don’t get it
dull ginkgo
Windows updates don't matter much unless there's something big
for the time being just leave it off
dull ginkgo
yea
jovial bluff
People are telling me my gpu is running off windows drivers and not the amd gpu drivers like what
dull ginkgo
windows automatically grabs drivers when you reboot again after ddu and you're connected to the internet
kind walrus
Yes
Do that
Specifically do that
You can also pause windows updates in the settings and turn off your wifi/remove the ethernet
jovial bluff
how am i gonna download the driver with no internet lol-
dull ginkgo
download the file and not install it
jovial bluff
so this
kind walrus
It's not going to disappear from your downloads during ddu
jovial bluff
when i download this though. it downloads the adrenalin software
jovial bluff
i havent Ddued though
kind walrus
Just download it now then ddu
jovial bluff
rn i have 22.5.1 instaled
kind walrus
Mhm
jovial bluff
but when i try to launch it. it says this
kind walrus
I'm aware of the error
You can't ddu without downloading the drivers you install after ddu prior
Otherwise windows just auto opts for some driver it can grab in that time
jovial bluff
So 1st step is this?
kind walrus
1st step
Download 22.5.1
Then
That
Then pause windows updates in settings (it'll resume after 7 days)
kind walrus
Or do that first
Do either
Your problem is it's updating itself and figuring itself out before you even get to finish the ddu process
You need to stop it from doing that
With 22.5.1* downloaded you can now also remove your ethernet and turn off your wifi
kind walrus
Then it's set as intended
Next, pause windows updates for 7 days
Then unplug ethernet and turn off wifi
Then do DDU again
In safe mode
Then install 22.5.1 as you've already downloaded it
jovial bluff
unplug ethernet rn?
kind walrus
Yes
jovial bluff
that shuts off the wifi right
jovial bluff
my pc isnt wifi blutooth thing it needs a ethernet to work
kind walrus
Bottom right corner
jovial bluff
Yea I unplugged my Ethernet
kind walrus
Oh ok
jovial bluff
Okay now DDU?
jovial bluff
I mean unistall my bad
kind walrus
Clean and restart
jovial bluff
Bet
kind walrus
Then when it boots to windows
Log in
If log in requires internet
Plug in ethernet
Then unplug when in
Then install 22.5.1
I shouldn't need to give any other instructions
jovial bluff
jovial bluff
It’s running
kind walrus
It's literally the official driver just run it
kind walrus
I would
short blade
jovial bluff
short blade
did some testing on tWR scaling
AIDA cares a lot, IMLC doesn't care at all
interesting
kind walrus
Reboot
kind walrus
You should be done
kind walrus
i already have this enabled
Change this back
Unpause windows updates
Plug ethernet back in
Done done
jovial bluff
Didn’t start with no internet in rn lol
kind walrus
Well plug it back in
kind walrus
Plug ethernet back in
I did just say this
kind walrus
Ya cos you listened
kind walrus
Now I shouldn't need to repeat myself nor anyone else when they say ddu
kind walrus
but iv done this befopre
Not like this obviously
jovial bluff
do i turn that off
kind walrus
Idk, had no effect on the ddu process
jovial bluff
No idea, I never talked to you about that
this problem i was having is happening to everyone
kind walrus
this problem i was having is happening to everyone
Again, wouldn't know about that
I never talked to you about that
kind walrus
You can just install 22.11.2
No need to ddu
You've cleaned it all up with ddu now, anything past this point is fine
proven canopy
Team wegg benching flash drive, password is wegg https://www.dropbox.com/s/dplsjxioy8z2r1q/Team Wegg benching flash drive 1.0.7z?dl=0
jovial bluff
im trying to hepl my nephew with his pc and his wifi on his pc is really bad but when he goes to his phone the sped is better and faster he isnt hardwired either he is able to play without a cable but its showing slow speeds..? any advice
zenith palm
probably no wifi drivers installed or just a bad wifi module in the pc for future questions of this type please head over to #building-and-recc-chat though
kind walrus
@proven canopy is precision X1 better for 4090 curve tuning? I can only see up to 3ghz in afterburner
I don't mind working half blind
But curious
Not sure if you'd maybe heard something from someone else about it maybe
restive sequoia
<@546791995830566912> is precision X1 better for 4090 curve tuning? I can only s...
Afterburner needs a update for 4090s iirc
wheat ether
scalar do auto
narrow schooner
Ok
narrow schooner
everything is different
wheat ether
try doing -15 first
wheat ether
yes
narrow schooner
ok
wheat ether
then try doing cinebench r23 single run
narrow schooner
then imma run cinebench ye
wheat ether
to see if that has any significant changes
wheat lintel
Bro what are those limits
wheat lintel
Also why is there only one magnitude in curve optimizer?
narrow schooner
idk
wheat lintel
There should be a seperate one for each core
sterile flame
nice
narrow schooner
now what abt my 6900xt
can i get it to be more unlocked
its just limiting me at 375w
wheat lintel
MPT
narrow schooner
what
wheat lintel
For not much real world performance gain
narrow schooner
well
wheat ether
There should be a seperate one for each core
you can do that
but this is more of a bandaid approach
wheat lintel
Oh god, the ! guy found this channel
wheat ether
can you just go away lol
wheat ether
should i get mbt
try going -20 on curve
to see if it makes any difference
i know it did for me
wheat lintel
should i get mbt
Ehh if youre just trying to go for benches then sure but if you’re looking for performance gains in gaming then don’t bother
wheat ether
whats mbt
narrow schooner
Ehh if youre just trying to go for benches then sure but if you’re looking for p...
ok, well i didnt buy a 6900xt ocf for just gaming
wheat lintel
Yep
wheat ether
moving on since my 3090 is happy
since its not radeon
this is what i have
and 1000w bios
wheat ether
@narrow schooner did you die?
mental turret
i still dont have a great way to measure power draw lol
I could buy a kilowatt, but that just measures total system power draw, and id buy an elmor pmd but ehhhh $50
zenith palm
Use hwinfo64 and maths init
mental turret
That's not always accurate and running hwinfo in the background will lower my benchmark scores
sudden torrent
You know you want that PMD
mental turret
50 dollars though 🗿
sudden torrent
But PMD tho
I would buy it myself but they don't have one for the nvidia 30 FE plug
mental turret
Adapters 
sudden torrent
For that to work I'd have to do like 4 adapters cascading lol
PSU > 12 pin cable > 12 to 3x8 > PMD > 3x8 to 12 > gpu
With gender change adapters after the PMD
proven canopy
Big titanium psu + kill-a-watt is most useful imo, I have a pmd and barely use it, creates a lot of clutter
kind walrus
@proven canopy @humble jay can I get some clarification here
6 ghz 2p 5.6 ghz 8p 4.4e
1.3v
This is good??
humble jay
Ecores should do higher
proven canopy
What bench? Just try run some of the hwbot benches that have global points and see how you stack up
kind walrus
I'm seeing an sp104 chip do less that's why I'm asking
I haven't done any per core rules just all core and offset
kind walrus
Ecores should do higher
I think one e core isn't happy past 4.4
I need to figure out which cluster
kind walrus
What bench? Just try run some of the hwbot benches that have global points and ...
I can later. I'm running out of time atm
I keep getting a clock timeout windows event for processor 16
So I have to figure out which e core that is
It's consistently that one
This is all btw at under 310W
Spikes higher but meh
I'm also trying to learn how to run higher vcore but fixed vid
kind walrus
Wait does SP even mean jack anymore? Wasn't the best indicator bust was very useful
Does SP all go up a notch for 13th gen due to better frequencies?
tall pelican
I would buy it myself but they don't have one for the nvidia 30 FE plug
he did on his shop, but it may be oos atm
sudden torrent
Isn't 12vhpwr different from the 30 FE plug though
I'm pretty sure they're different sizes
tall pelican
pretty sure same size, FE just doesnt have the +4 pins
you can always ask elmor though
sudden torrent
I'll double check it later when I'm home
zenith palm
Afaik they're the same just no sense pins on 30 fe
dull ginkgo
The auto OC thing? Only available to some GPUs
proven canopy
You can't hurt the pc dragging the clock or voltage slider in afterburner
unreal timber
so if i max it nothing but good things will happen
proven canopy
haha
unreal timber
Was hoping for a yes or no
sudden torrent
You can max the voltage and power and it'll run hotter but clock higher. Everything else is trial and error.
What model GPU? We can give you a guess for a safe overclock
proven canopy
To clarify, you can't "blow pc up" by dragging said sliders in AB. Maybe if you lock fan to 0% and run it until something melts...
unreal timber
Asus 5500XT Dual evo OC 8gb
I don’t know much about overclocking but I wanna overclock so any help is appreciated
sudden torrent
Maybe start with +75 core and +400 memory, and test to see what kind, if any, errors pop up
sudden torrent
Instant crashes during tests means drop back on core, graphical weirdness means drop back memory
Nah it just would crash if you maxed out
proven canopy
Yep. I'd test core first, then mem
Run something like 3dmark time spy
Or play cod
unreal timber
Ye that’s what I need it for cod is so badly optimised
Valorant get like 300fps
Cod 90ish
kind walrus
2nd run of 13900KF tuning. 6.0 2p and 5.7 8P seemingly stable (need to tease a bit more voltage out of it I think)
Gonna try figuring out which is the bad e core cluster
Still 1.3/1.31V VID/vcore
6 is definitely doable at reasonable voltages
What I'm doing different now is messing with LLC, I'm doing LLC 4 this time (3 seems better but too hot)
Might play with the LLC a bit more
kind walrus
I have drawn some pretty terrible e cores
So far seems to be 4.5e stable
For 2 clusters
IT MIGHT BE 3 BAD REEEE
kind walrus
Nope, 4.6e is stable
I just spent like an hour tryna test limits of the e cores and then all of that just washed away and now it wants to do 4.6
proven canopy
I have drawn some pretty terrible e cores
meh, 8 core rankings are worth way more anyway
strong e cores are nice for TS/FS overall score though I guess
kind walrus
@proven canopy r8 it so far
6.0 2p 5.7 8p 4.6e 5.0r
I think I'll def be lapping, I think 6 is the P limit for sure but my 8p might be able to go a little higher
I'm 1.29vcore/1.315VID (Vid bumped up due to 5.0 ring)
But I think 1.32 is still *kinda safe
I haven't really locked in the stability yet tho but it's running comfortably
If I put the ring down to 4.9 then the vid goes back to 1.285
Omg if I had the temp headroom it might do 5.8p
kind walrus
Suprim does 3030MHz
Might try flashing the liquid bios to it for 600W and see what it does
sudden torrent
kW bios next?
sudden torrent
kW
As in a kilowatt
kind walrus
No KW one yet
sudden torrent
4090?
sudden torrent
There is
kind walrus
Send
If you have it send
I went looking through the KFA vbios stuff and MSI but if maybe asus had one then I didn't look through all of those
There's like 159 unverified vbios'
@proven canopy 1000W 4090 vbios?
proven canopy
What about it
kind walrus
If I say please will I get it
proven canopy
I wouldn't flash that, might get the card stuck at x8
kind walrus
Stuck as in, no flash back to 16?
proven canopy
Don't really need it tbh anyway, especially for ambient
sudden torrent
Ooh is that what happened to BZ?
proven canopy
yes
kind walrus
Ah ok
sudden torrent
rip
kind walrus
Well my riser is 4.0
proven canopy
It didn't break my friend's suprim fwiw
kind walrus
So I will pass
Thanks for letting me know about it tho
Ok I'll try suprim liquid 600W
I don't think it has 500 graphics points in it but I still have ram to do which will probably be a lot of points
Wat
sudden torrent
The 1.1?
Hit the load test
It changes based on bandwidth and drops speed to save power at idle
kind walrus
Oh ok
I did see it drop 2.0...1.1
Made me freak out
Never witnessed that before
Oh yeah there's 4.0
sudden torrent
If you hit the "?" there's a small render that comes up to load it hopefully enough to get it to max state
sudden torrent
Yep, never stop learning
kind walrus
Good news is occt is working on my bench drive again
It genuinely just wouldn't launch for 2 days
Ima also ddu so I have clean drivers
Are the codes still the same I wonder
Oh I forgot about voltage slider unlock
kind walrus
Flash was successful
575W bay beeee
YEET
WTF
Oh ok afterburner was just dumb
It said 42C core and hwinfo saying 87C hotspot
It's actually 62 core
sudden torrent
You made sure it was the legit copy of AB right? There's a virus version going around
kind walrus
Not the extremely convincing, afterburner-msi.com (don't click this one)
Ah man I need to do ram after this, it'll take forever
💀
My programs looking sketch af rn
4090 don't like high clock crash kekw
My card suddenly trying to do 3120 on the new vbios
It can do it
For a moment
sudden torrent
kind walrus
3090 seems stable
Hey that's my old card!
Let's try 3105
Interesting that it's pulling the same power tho
sudden torrent
That's what happens when you're voltage limited
kind walrus
I'm thinking the flash did nothing and this was the voltage slider
Yeah
Oh well, I have a backup of the vbios
So no harm done
sudden torrent
epower time
kind walrus
Ok +210 seems stable
I can't really do a curve like this tho
If it wants 1.1 I couldn't help it
It got to the end of the test and died on 3105
The fan whine is the loudest thing on this card
NOOOO
I'M 17 POINTS SHORT OF TOP 100
sudden torrent
That's run variance level, I say shut it down and let the heat that's soaked dissipate and run again
kind walrus
Ima bump the clock a touch again
Maybe I need more mem clock
My core clock seems to be about as good as it'll get
I'm 68th for my hardware total
Hmmmmmmm
Mmm ima try more mem
If I did the ram I would be well into top 100 reeeee
I need to do ram I think
Ok I'm at least happy af with the system
I BSOD
NOOOOOO
IT WAS LOADING THE RESULT
YESSSZ
YEEEESSSS
98TH BAY BEEE
sudden torrent
Woo! Nicely done
kind walrus
It didn't upload to my acc
Ok not making that mistake twice
The score uploaded but not linked
Big sadge
Try again
kind walrus
YESSSS
YEETED MY ROOM TO COLD AND GOT A BUNCH OF POINTS
It uploaded correctly
93rd BABY WOOOOO
kind walrus
Ram ram
Oh vram?
Well I think I was pretty close to the limit
+1200 I was seeing regression
+1150 was where I landed so I can try again another time ig
No time left for now
mental turret
upload to hwbot
proven canopy
Cracked the paste before I turned on ht + mem oc, but could be worse. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/33345305
Did a 2475 core run for 16.8k gpu score
kind walrus
Jeeeeez
pallid nest
limit is 480W gpu
pallid nest
wheat lintel
Idk if RAM would help here
RAAAAAAM
proven canopy
Went better than expected, 2505 mhz gpupi https://hwbot.org/submission/5138999_
tall pelican
<:kekw:763002218030039060> limit is 480W gpu
tbf mine thinks its a "530w" gpu.... it also thinks its pulling like 20w in furmark
pallid nest
Lol
kind walrus
This can def be better
I haven't tested above* 6GHz so this should be a pretty normal score
mental turret
uneven flax
tbf mine thinks its a "530w" gpu.... it also thinks its pulling like 20w in furm...
shunt mod go brrr?
mental turret
soc simp
mental turret
do you guys like my overclock
eternal relic
oh lol, i was just asking around if i could grav mount my trex to gpus with a riser
i only have access to dice tho, should still be fun
just need to wait for hot to get back in stock now
proven canopy
I don't think gravity mount is a good idea for dice. It is very easy to crack the paste on a gravity mount gpu, and you'll have to stir the dice around
If you can do without that, sure
eternal relic
can dice get cold enough to crack kpx?
i never stirred with my last benching either, just poured pellets
mental turret
can dice get cold enough to crack kpx?
i dont think so
still shouldnt grav mount though lol
mental turret
i dont actually do gpu xoc so i forget lol
proven canopy
can dice get cold enough to crack kpx?
maybe with enough voltage, but that's a problem on ln2 as well around -130 IME
Again, the problem is that you need to agitate the dice at some point
It will be difficult to do so without wrecking the mount
proven canopy
Yeah, I'd imagine small pellets wouldn't need much stirring
eternal relic
they were fairly large tbh
can see them in this
lilene said not to crush them down
proven canopy
I mean, if temps get worse over time, you know the answer
mental turret
lilene said not to crush them down
why
eternal relic
smth about splashing
mental turret
you should crush your dry ice
eternal relic
it help sub 40c in that 2080ti bench
held*
alright, ill powder it down next time
uneven flax
what was your 7980xe running at on dice
eternal relic
we dont talk about that awful session
uneven flax
90c then?
eternal relic
nah, 67c
uneven flax
💀
eternal relic
got cpu to 4.7ghz avx512, mightve been phantom throttling from vccin starve tho
eternal relic
imc is too awful for me to be competitive
uneven flax
imc is too awful for me to be competitive
damn no 4kc12?
uneven flax
imma test my chip next week
eternal relic
gl
proven canopy
maxmem refused to work
what
eternal relic
would have an error in 1B with maxmem
8gb maxmem, tried 25M as well, different error from not enough mem
tight plover
can i overclock my gskill trident z royal ddr4 3200 to 3600 (on x570e)
tight plover
sk hynix
zenith palm
probably youll have to change the timings though
pallid nest
@kind walrus hello you there
it says its running 5.01ghz
this is hwinfo
So is it running its highest clock speed already
sterile flame
To improve my vram, i've increased the memory clock offset to +550 in msi ab, is there anything else i can do to improve vram performance
3060 maxq
steady lance
In games like Minecraft where Single threaded performance is more important would it be better to just OC the crap out of 1-2 cores versus trying to get a better all core OC?
restive sequoia
You dk which cores it will hit and how
Stable all core seems better to me
Unless you are forcing the game on the overclocked cores with lasso I see no point
eternal relic
i heard mc is multicore now from some mc server recently, not sure how true that is tho
might've been referring to server side of things
sudden torrent
You'd really just want it to increase your normal boost target because yeah, you can't pick what cores it uses efficiently
restive sequoia
Minecraft with shaders or rtx probably would end up gpu bound first
eternal relic
i run heavily modded mc at like 500 fps on a 6 year old 7980xe, anything past haswell is probably fine surely
unless shaders, yeah
steady lance
You'd really just want it to increase your normal boost target because yeah, you...
Gotcha.
steady lance
might've been referring to server side of things
Yes, that'd be server-side.
lofty hatch
Heyo, so, i just got my new 3060ti, I'm trying to use msi afterburner to auto OC and it goes for 30 seconds, changes a few little things then says cancelled, any reason why that would be? Should I use a different program? Should I use the galax 1-OC software made for my card?
kind walrus
I've had OC scanner maybe work once for me and it was terrible
eternal relic
oc scanner blue screens for me lol
might be using power limits in it's oc forumla, so that might be breaking it
kind walrus
Afterburner is great but oc scanner reminds me of like, ryzen dram calculator 💀
Just terrible
sudden torrent
You mean the calculator that told me my c-die could do 3600c18 with 1 simple trick?
Spoiler, it doesn't.
zenith palm
I mean you should be able to do 3600c18 with b die
sudden torrent
Well yeah but not my old c-die kit rated for 3200c16
That kit's not budging up from that. All I could do was SCLs and slightly tighten tRFC
3266 would error within seconds
On a somewhat related note I got my 5800X to do 4775 all core in R20 on ambient. Stock max boost is 4700 so I had to brag just a little there lol.
I'm the #3 score on AIO now 
sudden torrent
Did it again in R23. It's hilarious that the people below me might have 5050 but they're clearly clock stretching. Upon closer inspection their effective clock is 4525 lol.
ancient bridge
On a somewhat related note I got my 5800X to do 4775 all core in R20 on ambient....
Should i use 20 rather than 23?
Ive been using 23 for a while now
sudden torrent
Should i use 20 rather than 23?
ancient bridge
Ok lmao
scenic vine
proven canopy
R20 has global points, both have hardware points
wind prairie
I've had OC scanner maybe work once for me and it was terrible
The one time i used it it actually made a not horrible voltage curve
mental turret
pallid nest
welp speeeeed
restive sequoia
show me some fps gains
potent fiber
Hwinfo > task manager. Time for cinebench or w/e.
mental turret
Nice, came in a shell
pallid nest
Hwinfo > task manager. Time for cinebench or w/e.
Hardware just shows 1 number
Wait
I don't mean that
potent fiber
Who's gone crazy w/ ram on a nonK 12th gen or done some stuff w/o touching the (vcc)SA? Was gonna aim close to 3600c16 or maybe around 3200c14 because gear 2 is poopoo.
sudden torrent
Why not try 3600c14 if you're going to be on b-die like that
scenic vine
Ballistixs should have no trouble with that
But yeah non-k ram oc is pain, unless you're on ddr5 - it's more bearable there
zenith palm
Who's gone crazy w/ ram on a nonK 12th gen or done some stuff w/o touching the (...
Why not try get 3800 16 or 14
zenith palm
Why not try 3600c14 if you're going to be on b-die like that
Tis 16gb rev e
scenic vine
Why not try get 3800 16 or 14
0.95vccsa is the reason
zenith palm
Oh right missed the non k
potent fiber
Yea it ok. I'll try anything w/ 1.5 Vdimm or less. Btw it 8Gbit I think (1GBx16chips). Work tomorrow so Sunday is pc day. Gonna tune mem then play old games on the temp 660.
mental turret
overclocking juice acquired
ancient bridge
oh big sexy
scenic vine
Yea it ok. I'll try anything w/ 1.5 Vdimm or less. Btw it 8Gbit I think (1GBx16c...
M8E usually does really solid CL
great tRP too, poor tRCD
3600 12-17-12 might be attainable, c13 shouldnt bad that hard
tCL scales with vdimm, tRCD/tRP do not
short blade
sounds ambitious with my experience with m8e
12-17 anyways
14-18 should be easy, 13-18 might be doable depending on the bin
at 1.5v
i needed 1.7v to hit cl12 at 3800
trcd 18
zenith palm
Yea it ok. I'll try anything w/ 1.5 Vdimm or less. Btw it 8Gbit I think (1GBx16c...
It's says m16fe on your stick :/
I believe that's 16gb rev e
kind walrus
Yes that would be
scenic vine
i needed 1.7v to hit cl12 at 3800
3600c12 is the same absolute latency as 4000c14, which ive seen fairly often
(for tCL)
potent fiber
Don't mind if it's really "16gbit", but I just get mixed up when the dimms are 16GB capacity also. See I thought M8 & M16 mostly meant number of chips per dimm rather than specifically the 8gbit or not. what would the 64GB kit be that's 2x the capacity, lol. ---Maybe these oc easier than a 4x8 setup, but really I'm not concerned being such a ddr4 noob obviously.
potent fiber
Hey locked SA effect CL or really just the gear 1 mhz/MTs? Ah yea I found a Thaiphoon burner pic of how it helps me understand/tell M16 didn't mean 16gbit. 
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Mostly gear 1 stability
scenic vine
scenic vine
I believe that's 16gb rev e
It's Dr 8gbit E
scenic vine
It's chip count
kind walrus
Wait wha
So m4fe would have 4 16gbit chips?
Isn't that 8gb?
If it's just a code I'm following but if those are the chip counts then I'm mega confusion
Is it not 8 16gbit chips SR??
potent fiber
Well M4 could be laptop ram perhaps, idk. I just indeed figured M16 = 16 chips and 16GB dimm / 16 = 1GB. (1GB = 8gbit chip)
---Yea I'll aim for around 3200c14 at 1.4v give or take and also mess around in gear 2 w/ high speeds a bit.
kind walrus
Try and see how high you can post loose timings but higher freq
If you get 3600 you're doing amazing
Then dial it in, you may need to kick freq. Down a notch
Gear 1 @3533, 3466 etc. Will be more worth it than anything you could get in gear 2
potent fiber
Cool, I've heard you need maybe around 4400+ to sort of match 3200 gear 1 or somethin like that. I do know "good" Rev E can hit way higher than my 12400 or b660 will allow, probably. Not a bad thing.
kind walrus
Yeah you'll 100% be SA limited by the chip
They cap around 3600
Some 3667, some much lower
potent fiber
Ah ignore the pic. Couldn't zoom in when I was looking for another. Mhm, I've read even 3600 might be a challenge indeed. That's ok. Not like it helps the 12400 a ton anyways.
kind walrus
So I think I might be on to something about the upgraded input filtering on the XTX resulting in much better clocks
potent fiber
How so, easy 3ish ghz?
kind walrus
Looking at the RDNA 2 vid over again from BZ he talks a lot how the ref card has pretty rubbish filtering, and the main difference between the aib's and the ref cards is exactly that really
OCF upgraded the hell out of that
On the 6900XT
So I'm wondering if that, because he says it talks about removing a lot of the noise from the voltage signal, has anything to do with them clocking higher
XTX has some insane power fluctuations
potent fiber
Makes me think Funny of the opposite of Nvidia in a sense how the FE cards seemed to be binned better. Interesting, this xtx sort of like the higher end 30 series in some ways. 3080 would test my 650w psus, lul.
kind walrus
Aib's are definitely pointing to better results so far
3.2 vs 2.9? Tho the actual results are a lot closer
potent fiber
Around 10% at 3ghz seems like a decent spread though. Still wild these newest cards are around 3ghz while previous gen was/is 2ish ghz.
kind walrus
Yeah 5-10% looking possible
I'm not convinced about this apparent A0 vs. C8 thing yet tho
I don't feel like AMD would willingly release something when they know they can do better? But that's also why the possibilities of 7950 XTX and 7990 XTX exist
So we'll see ig
sudden torrent
So I think I might be on to something about the upgraded input filtering on the ...
Moore's Law Is Dead agrees with you. His theory is they were having trouble getting 3ghz at below the 4080s power limit but if you can push 375W it's pretty easy really.
kind walrus
Moore's Law Is Dead agrees with you. His theory is they were having trouble gett...
XFX barely pushed any higher power tho iirc?
I think it's just more a smoother and clearer signal = more better
The XFX and TUF can do the same clocks as the Sapphire while the sapphire has a much higher tdp
I'm not sure if more power is just plain better yet
Need the card myself to see that
I'd love to see igor do a power consumption graph of an aib card as well
sudden torrent
XFX barely pushed any higher power tho iirc?
Right the usual OC power limit is pretty low, but there's been some amazing results from modders
sudden torrent
Nothing official or public so far, just a couple tweets
We'll see results from BZ soon
eternal relic
i really need to buy input caps
ive been salvaging them from my dead 7970 vapor x lol
with a tiny lil blowtorch at a distance lol, miracle the caps work
scenic vine
I have some but never used them kek
eternal relic
i need them for 260 comp
i bought pack 100 2.5v 820uF nippon caps for output ive been using for months now lol, never actually capped on the input side
probably should
jovial bluff
so i need some help
jovial bluff
sudden torrent
so i need some help
70-75C is perfectly normal for a GPU
ancient bridge
mhm i wouldn't worry about anything below 85c even than ur technically fine
sudden torrent
Yeah up to 95 is technically fine, just not ideal
It'll throttle before that point
jovial bluff
oh okay
any tips on gpu fan curve? dont really know what to set it to
or have it as
questrion
jovial bluff
70-75C is perfectly normal for a GPU
my fan speed is at 97%
but the higest my gpu fans taht i have them go to is 75..
?
sudden torrent
but the higest my gpu fans taht i have them go to is 75..
Something is overriding your setting or you didn't apply the curve
As far as curves go you really just play around with it. You're trading noise level for heat and vice versa. You just have to find what works for you.
jovial bluff
jovial bluff
Did you save and apply?
kind walrus
Gpu fan will not be affected by the bios fan curves
jovial bluff
alright hm idk then
sudden torrent
Some bios can read gpu fan speed but not control it
sudden torrent
In GPU-Z? That just resets the monitoring info
If you're looking for a reset you want DDU
sudden torrent
If you consider this fan behavior to be odd and unacceptable then it's worth a try
But personally I wouldn't care
jovial bluff
Yes
sudden torrent
Either of those will be able to tell you if it's currently at the expected speed and timings
Then if you want to be doubly sure you can run a stress test like TM5
jovial bluff
Alright so it’s working then?
sudden torrent
Yep on the surface at least. I don't think there'd be a need for a stress test unless you start having more problems like blue screens or crashes.
jovial bluff
Hm Mk just asking bc I’m playing apex and when I alt tab my game runs like bad,
sudden torrent
That's more a game problem
jovial bluff
Figured
potent fiber
Some games run funky if you alt tab then alt tab back until pc restart. Sometimes it's also if we weren't fullscreen but idk. Part of why I like dual screens is somewhat less tabbing out. Plus, Apex is Apex (haven't played in 2 months but did for 700ish hrs).
jovial bluff
this popped up again after alt tabing
jovial bluff
Some games run funky if you alt tab then alt tab back until pc restart. Sometime...
yea i havent had this issue with my other ram though but that was 3200mhz
potent fiber
Interesting if ram does that sort of stuff. Not sure on the gfx driver, perhaps ddu & reinstall latest. My dad had an amd (ATI) gpu but I've only had Nvidia. I have driver issues too but can't remember when last was.
jovial bluff
I got the last est
Idk if there’s something special I have to do bc it’s 3600mhz of ram
sudden torrent
Idk if there’s something special I have to do bc it’s 3600mhz of ram
Since you're on Intel you can try changing Command Rate to 1T, I see it defaulted to 2T
jovial bluff
how do i do that
eternal relic
3600 18-22-22-42, is a s8c bin
jovial bluff
dont get what u mean
eternal relic
cdie is pretty much the worst dram for ddr4. tho there's still some oc potential, expecially on that 3600 18 22 22 42 1.35V bin
jovial bluff
Since you're on Intel you can try changing Command Rate to 1T, I see it defaulte...
I should do this though
eternal relic
find "CR" or "Command Rate" in bios, just change "2T" to 1T
sudden torrent
cdie is pretty much the worst dram for ddr4. tho there's still some oc potential...
No it's far from the worst, but it's limited in potential and only scales up to around 1.35v
eternal relic
fine, worst ddr4 dram from sammy 
i have some ChangXin 3200 jedec sticks i tried to tune and they error out with anything beyond a tiny tune
sudden torrent
fine, worst ddr4 dram from sammy <:pepeblush:982620330772291634>
E-Die would like a word
It's described as "C-die but sadder"
2400c14
sudden torrent
Sny idea where it would be under BIOS
Usually under the memory overclocking menu
eternal relic
E-Die would like a word
isnt edie EOL tho
jovial bluff
jovial bluff
Usually under the memory overclocking menu
Ones of those
sudden torrent
Advanced DRAM config
jovial bluff
sudden torrent
Command Rate, set to 1
jovial bluff
There’s
sudden torrent
1N
jovial bluff
Alright snd that’s it?
jovial bluff
For this memory fast boot THSTS on auto shoukd I mess with that or what about DRAM timing mode on link