instead of getting another 16
#building-and-recc-chat
strong idol
cyan ravine
Would match 2 more 2x8's and save money while also keeping on the table any potential OC value later imo
strong idol
word
ill look into it
thank you @desert gulch @cyan ravine
i really appreciate the help
mossy venture
warzone for me was fixed by ram upgrade
other games are likely not related to ram tho, unless you have tons of bloatware
or are running a lot at once
mossy venture
id try to avoid corsair
strong idol
is this corsair?
strong idol
lmao
mossy venture
crucial is one of the best memory manufacturers
strong idol
oh word
cyan ravine
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164205?item=...
That's likely a bingo on your other kit
strong idol
thats the kit i already have
mossy venture
oh wait, thats a 16gb kit
mossy venture
i wouldnt spend that much on it
strong idol
everywhere is super expensive
mossy venture
id either look for a cheaper version of it or get that tridentz kit and sell your current one
ye, crucial ddr4 isnt made anymore
mossy venture
so its expensive now
mossy venture
it is, considering a 16gb 3200c16 kit is $50
strong idol
would i be stupid and dumb and stupid if i did it
mossy venture
yes
strong idol
fair enough
cyan ravine
I would just lurk around 2nd hand sellers for it until you see a decent kit for like 60 or less
jagged ember
a lotta people come in and just blow money on useless stuff and don't listen
jagged ember
rip
strong idol
I would just lurk around 2nd hand sellers for it until you see a decent kit for ...
would it be worth buying second hand instead of just going with a different kit
flint sapphire
To be fair you could always just spend 450 on a 5800x3d have better cpu performance and not have to worry much about ram. The l3 cache seems to help most of ryzens dependence on good ram 
cyan ravine
If you ever get the urge to you can add a few percent more to your system at least with some good ram, esp. on ryzen
cyan ravine
When's the last time you updated bios?
cyan ravine
Lol
Bios updates over the last couple years have been set to address stability issues like that, if not it'll be something else in your mobo settings like vSoC
There will be a guide on asus' website where the support page is for your board
If not in the manual
In the bios it's called ez flash or something similar on asus iirc
Been a minute I might have remembered that last bit wrong 
strong idol
watching i video on it now
man you have been so useful
ok my bios version is 1205
the current version is 2803
is that bad
obsidian wigeon
nope
strong idol
i need a flash drive to update bios?
jagged ember
yes
eager vessel
i updated my bios today ^_^
eager vessel
oddly, i noticed today a slight increase in performance
but i also tweaked a few things
strong idol
what does that mean
eager vessel
i nearly doubled the speed of my ram
strong idol
Does anyone see anything out of the ordinary/needs adjusting? I’m not really sure what I’m looking at tbh
I changed memory frequency to 3600
cyan ravine
You change the DOCP to the saved profile (Usually the first one if there's two) to get back your old ram speed
cyan ravine
Like, right above the memory frequency option
Lol
Under ai tweaker
It'll be like part way down
cyan ravine
That's it, docp
It'll apply the 3600 profile along with the few timings that are also saved under the SPD
So it'll revert it back to the full speed before the bios update
cyan ravine
All good. A common occurrence is people often don't turn it on so they never know
Can ignore that
strong idol
Is the bclk frequency okay at 100?
Also, last question, do you think I should turn on asus performance enhancement
cyan ravine
Yes
Uh no
I can't remember but I don't think that's MCE but one that skews performance for scenarios like 3dmark or cinebench iirc
strong idol
So it’s like makeup but for computers
cyan ravine
All good. You'll be running a later AGESA now which should hopefully help with the random shutdown issues
strong idol
I deeply hope so
cyan ravine
If not come back to the #overclocking channel we can probably figure it out
dark nova
I don’t know if anyone here was here from when I was figuring out what gpu to upgrade to. Did we ever conclude if a founder’s edition 3080 would fit in the Corsair 220t if I have a front mounted aio?
Cause im kinda assuming on the safe side it’s best to do the founder’s edition 3070ti
cyan ravine
FE is like 300mm yes?
dark nova
Yeah
dark nova
Goddamn
cyan ravine
As long as you have no rad on the front it's fine
dark nova
I do though
dark nova
Might be safer to just go with 3070ti then
mossy venture
Might be safer to just go with 3070ti then
3070 ti is not worth it
dark nova
Oof my aio is 26.9 mm
mossy venture
just get a 3070
dark nova
Damn
mossy venture
oc a 3070 and you beat 3070 ti lol
dark nova
I just want a ti cause it sounds cooler than a vanilla 😭
mossy venture
it also draws a lot more power and is hotter
mossy venture
super in 30 series does not exist
dark nova
I was just meaning in general
mossy venture
yes
dark nova
Okay
still roostBOT
Aboocher19#9673 has been warned
dark nova
Choosing parts is tough
Would it be worth waiting for the next series cards to come out?
Or will they probably be ridiculously pricey?
mossy venture
if youre patient
dark nova
I mean I’m not in a rush to upgrade I’m just trying to make sure I’m making the best choice I could
cyan ravine
I would say waiting is better but while it's on this subject case compatibility for existing cards is well enough documented versus what's on the way
cyan ravine
Absolutely
obsidian wigeon
yes
cyan ravine
6900XT too
dark nova
Cause I think that’s the biggest thing is I want to play forza and have the game look stunning
obsidian wigeon
6900xt obliterates 3070
dark nova
My 1660 don’t like the game very well haha
obsidian wigeon
i would grab that 6900xt
mossy venture
id go for the 6900xt if it were me and i had the budget
obsidian wigeon
if your psu is good enough
mossy venture
very much good enough
cyan ravine
One of the best
dark nova
My only concern is I would probably have to change some software then right? Since I currently am running an nvidia card
dark nova
Idk what ddu is ._.
obsidian wigeon
then install amd driver once the amd one is installed
it's a tool for clean gpu driver removal
you can get it from guru3d
dark nova
Okay cool
Then I could sell the 1660. Or put it in on my brother’s pc so that he’s no longer running a 1060 haha
obsidian wigeon
1660 doesn't go for much these days
dark nova
I know unfortunately
obsidian wigeon
I would just give it to someone
dark nova
Shoulda taken it out and sold it back when they were going for like $700 lol
obsidian wigeon
even then 6900xt was fairly well priced in that time
it was like close and below msrp sometimes
dark nova
It was mind blowing to me honestly the price I was seeing the 1660 sell for during those crazy times considering I literally bought it for 265 I think
Woulda been huge profit on my end if I did take it out and sell it
I gotta get on here to have these discussions at a better time than right before I sleep lol. I sometimes forget what I’ve talked about and forget if there was any other questions I had lol
eager vessel
gone are those days 😦
carmine swallow
Can I ask questions here regarding laptops?
earnest olive
not really the right channel for it
analog pulsar
Hello I'm looking to downgrade the 3080 bc I'm about to give the kids there computer and I wanna give a gpu that's more around same power as the i3 so I was thinking 3050 or 3060 someone messaged me today 6700xt how is that card compared to performance wise
frigid night
Hello I'm looking to downgrade the 3080 bc I'm about to give the kids there comp...
6700xt is a little better than 3060ti
Probably pretty comparable.
cyan ravine
Not with a 3080
vague oracle
$4-500 imo
runic spruce
U can buy a red devil card for that price I think
fossil cedar
Hello I'm looking to downgrade the 3080 bc I'm about to give the kids there comp...
Would to 6600xt for like 350 or 6600 for like 275
analog pulsar
Would to 6600xt for like 350 or 6600 for like 275
So what on top money should I ask or something
late fjord
So what on top money should I ask or something
Nvm I just seen your original post 😅
frigid night
Nvm I just seen your original post 😅
fossil cedar
So what on top money should I ask or something
Wdym?
fossil cedar
Ohhhhhh
I thought you where just gonna sell and buy
Ehh it's a gaming z trio 3080 12gb right?
analog pulsar
Ehh it's a gaming z trio 3080 12gb right?
Yea
analog pulsar
I thought you where just gonna sell and buy
I would say trading seems better
fossil cedar
I would say trading seems better
You might not be able to trade, might be easier to sell and buy 2nd hand
But I'd say you could get 700-750? For it maybe
analog pulsar
oh
rich void
Yeah 700-750 sounds accurate for a used 3080, maybe a little more for the 12gb mode?
fossil cedar
I don't think so tbh, sips said he saw a 3090 sell for 850 iirc
Also 3080 12gb gaming oc is 730$ atm
frigid night
I got tree fiddy @analog pulsar
rich void
What's max laptop ram speed
It's going to depend on the specific laptop
analog pulsar
Oh
rich void
Also not all laptops allow you to easily upgrade ram. Some laptops have soldered in ram
rich void
It can make sense to buy additional ram for a laptop yourself (since oems charge so much for it) but you have to be sure the laptop enables it
twin sedge
Anything i should change? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sd284s
analog pulsar
Also not all laptops allow you to easily upgrade ram. Some laptops have soldered...
Well ik but laptop I got doesn't have it
I made sure
@fossil cedar pato should I just get 6700xt and call it a day
Will 6700xt be a good gpu for i3 12100F
fossil cedar
Up to you, imo 6600 or 6600xt would be a more even match tho
analog pulsar
Yea true
rich void
Well ik but laptop I got doesn't have it
Well you're the one best positioned to figure out the speed of ram and the ram capacity of that laptop unless you share the model
fossil cedar
Anything i should change? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sd284s
Looks good
analog pulsar
Well you're the one best positioned to figure out the speed of ram and the ram c...
Ik ik
M15 R7 but I was just gunna use what I have rn and see if I need to upgrade it later
https://i.imgur.com/z1Lu30A.png ive been using this for couple months now max load i got to was like 13GB- 12.5GB
rich void
M15 R7 but I was just gunna use what I have rn and see if I need to upgrade it l...
I think this is the doc you need: https://dl.dell.com/content/manual22171472-alienware-m15-r7-setup-and-specifications.pdf?language=en-us&ps=true
Based on the specs it may only support 4800mhz. The gaming laptop I used to have had bios locked down such that you couldn't oc the ram, I don't know if this one is any different or not
analog pulsar
https://i.imgur.com/Kb27Wm4.png ew 256GB
twin sedge
Then dont get the 2230
jolly grotto
my recent build will overclock soon, (used remotely as a server)
green egret
thermaltake th240 vs cooler master ml240
jagged ember
arctic liquid freezer II 240
olive cypress
my recent build will overclock soon, (used remotely as a server)
What's that build for? Server?
Nvm I got it, it's for cyberpunk
*cyberbug
untold vessel
I have a budget of $1300. Should I wait to build a Gaming PC after the next gen graphics cards come out, or should I build right this second with all of these deals going around?
eager chasm
my recent build will overclock soon, (used remotely as a server)
For the love of all things tech, switch the graph to show logical cores
Almost nothing useful about the total graph
fossil cedar
**I have a budget of $1300. Should I wait to build a Gaming PC after the next ge...
You asked this yesterday also whats with the bold lmao
forest briar
He wants to be seen
desert gulch
he also already got an answer yesterday from a couple techies and ig just decided to reask?
eager chasm
for $1300 you can make a pretty nice computer right now, hell the $500 gaming PC with an actual GPU is a thing again
rich void
he also already got an answer yesterday from a couple techies and ig just decide...
As is tradition
desert gulch
xD
eager chasm
**I have a budget of $1300. Should I wait to build a Gaming PC after the next ge...
just do it, the prices took a nose dive today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79H_XOwpZo
untold vessel
You asked this yesterday also whats with the bold lmao
This gaming PC is for a commission I'm doing with no set time limit
untold vessel
he also already got an answer yesterday from a couple techies and ig just decide...
^
The real question is: Can $1,300 put together a good system with speculative pricing of the 13th Gen intel and 4000 Series graphics cards?
fossil cedar
We can't put together a system with speculative pricing at all
desert gulch
how are we gonna price something that isnt even out?
potent portal
Midrange 40 series won't even be out until next year
desert gulch
gpu stock could be crap again, where you cant even find anything at msrp, we dont know
fossil cedar
And remember the first 40 series to come out will be 4080 and 4090, rest of the series might be like 6 months away
Just build now if it's for a commission
eager chasm
Seriously prices of 30 series cards just tanked cause of a MASSIVE overstock, there is no way the 40 series will be anything near as good at launch as the value is right now
now is a pretty good time to buy
untold vessel
I getcha
What do you guys think of this
Good build? Can we chop the prices down?
plush lily
whats a good ddr4 mobo to go with a i7-12700kf
eager chasm
Good build? Can we chop the prices down?
if you make it an AMD build the 5700X and a motherboard to with it would be a lot cheaper, but would benefit from higher speed ram
actually 5800X is only $2 more than a 5700X right now
absolute bargain
strong idol
hello friends and family
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8LVLwc this is my current setup and i am looking for 32gb of ram instead of 16. I cannot find the set i have now bc they dont sell them anymore. does anyone have a recommendation
eager chasm
you could just buy 2 16GB kits
same thing
then sell your current kit
@strong idol this the kit you are looking for?
fossil cedar
if you make it an AMD build the 5700X and a motherboard to with it would be a lo...
Only reason to go amd atm is you already have an am4 board
strong idol
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164205
thats the one
they upcharged it so much though. thats why ive been considering just going with a different brand
eager chasm
Only reason to go amd atm is you already have an am4 board
well he asked about shaving cost, and it would shave a sizable chunk of it while not really losing THAT much performance
fossil cedar
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164205
That's way too overpriced, you could buy a 32gb kit of 3600cl16 new for that
fossil cedar
well he asked about shaving cost, and it would shave a sizable chunk of it while...
No it wouldn't, check my list
strong idol
That's way too overpriced, you could buy a 32gb kit of 3600cl16 new for that
any suggestions?
eager chasm
just get 32GB of a different kit and sell your current one, what I suggested before
fossil cedar
any suggestions?
Yeah I'd just get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc
If you want rgb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc
eager chasm
if you want stock of something that isn't around anymore you'd be massively over paying
eager chasm
Sketch seller with only 1 rating at 5 stars, it's your money to risk
stoic island
shipping is gonna suck
eager chasm
ngl I don't trust unknown sellers of parts on ebay, especially with too good to be true prices
strong idol
is there anywhere you know of that i could sell my current parts that isnt ebay
like a discord server or something
eager chasm
I sold my old parts through a local LAN party group
potent portal
ngl I don't trust unknown sellers of parts on ebay, especially with too good to ...
That's a product rating and has nothing to do with the sellers
strong idol
people keep saying that the ram i have is good so why did they stop selling it
potent portal
is there anywhere you know of that i could sell my current parts that isnt ebay
R/hardwareswap
potent portal
people keep saying that the ram i have is good so why did they stop selling it
Ballistix I'm guessing? They discontinued it to focus on DDR5
fossil cedar
It's so sad
eager chasm
GSkill is a great alternative
potent portal
They've been cheap lately too
strong idol
hey wait
strong raft
Those non usa prices right now are nuts, for ballistix
strong idol
the seller has 631 reviews
fossil cedar
Although tbf microns ddr5 sucks atm so i get they need the recourses
strong idol
is he still sketch
fossil cedar
630 reviews with 95% or higher sounds good
strong idol
nvm they cant send it to me
potent portal
630 reviews with 95% or higher sounds good
100% rated, not bad at all
strong idol
mans a professional flipper
potent portal
Aka scalper
forest briar
analog pulsar
I reopen and close hwinfo
My gpu temp keeps going blank
Wait
It's just bc of some thing with power save mode
ornate condor
I guesssing bad driver 
would also say bad sensor but it works without power saving mode so
probably bad drivers or another stupid windows issue
jagged ember
you sure everything is updated kenzie
and you've also removed mcafee
and other bloatware
jagged ember
https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180
he hooked up to cope
mystic needle
idk if anyone remembers but i came here for help cause my pc would crash when playing almost anything that 3d graphics at 60hz and up, I fixed the issue when I replaced one of the wires connecting to my asiahorse cables to my gpu, and my games stopped crashing, but just recently the same issue occurs and i’m experiencing crashes again and again it’s only games like doom, or watch dogs 2, or No mans sky, but games like minecraft dungeons(when not at 170hz) dont starve together, anything simpler will run just fine, i tested my pc for everything again and nothing is wrong with my ssds or hdd and cpu and gpu pass the stress tests
sharp temple
@fossil cedar so this is the 2tb ssd I should get SK hynix Gold P31 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen3 M.2 2280 Internal SSD l Up to 3500MB/S l Compact M.2 SSD Form Factor SK hynix SSD - Internal Solid State Drive with 128-Layer NAND Flash https://a.co/d/gMHADkY not the WD Blue one or the TeamGroup one?
ornate condor
sharp temple
So is the 31 my best optin
ornate condor
yup its good one 
sharp temple
Vs these two
ornate condor
sn570 is slower than p31 I think
sharp temple
Yeah
ornate condor
not sure about mp34
sharp temple
Pato was saying that earlier just wanted to double check
jagged ember
p31 is one of the best gen 3 ssds
hands down
570 most definitely slower than it
and less power efficient, and has less endurance
analog pulsar
you sure everything is updated kenzie
It is a power save feature for somw reason
Wait
Sorry
Advance optimus
jagged ember
oh optimus
idk what to do about that, probably just force it to use dgpu or something
analog pulsar
I did
south cliff
Anyone know a good deal for prime day on like a pc part or monitor or just something
sharp temple
So I should get the P31 at the price that it is
south cliff
there is a lot of good deals
Well just something y’all would recommend
potent portal
I posted one for a 750W PSU in #tech-deals
desert gulch
Probs A tier unless it was h1 inspired for the new model
potent portal
It's the new 2022 model, they upgraded it to Gold and full modular. The old 2020 Bronze model was A tier, so unless they really borked something it's an easy A.
silent osprey
So I should get the P31 at the price that it is
Yea sure, it's basically the best Gen 3. Not usually $160.
trim orbit
Привет
trim orbit
So I ordered all my parts, and ended up with:
AMD Ryzen 5 5600g, ASUS TUF x570 plus wifi, Msi 3x 3080 oc 12gb, EVGA 750w qm, rosewill prism s500, teamgroup mp33 256gb nvme ssd, teamgroup 16 gb 3200mhz cl16 ram, seagate barracuda 2tb hard drive, and I think that covers everything! Any thoughts?
trim orbit
hello but English pls
Sorry mb homes
empty pollen
So I ordered all my parts, and ended up with:
AMD Ryzen 5 5600g, ASUS TUF x570 p...
ummm
5600g on an x570 mobo?
empty pollen
it does, just not a good cpu for that mobo, plus gen 12th is by far better in price/performance
empty pollen
you can cancel your order
trim orbit
But as long as it works
empty pollen
i guess
and help the guys here with your budget so they can tailor a very good pc for you
potent portal
You might need to update bios to get the cpu to work
trim orbit
It’s already on the way and I just might stick with amd anyways
empty pollen
thats... quite problematic on that mobo
if i recall it rigth the tuf x570 dont have a bios flashback
trim orbit
Dang
empty pollen
maybe you are lucky and your cpu will work no problem, if not then your mobo will need a bios upgrade using another amd cpu, maybe from an old build or a friend
empty pollen
dont know how the refund thing works with newegg, but if you can return the whole build that should be better, so the guys around here can help you to get a better bang for your buck
currently you can get a better and cheaper pc using 12th gen instead of amd
trim orbit
Lol, I’ll check it out, thanks
potent portal
If the motherboard comes with version 4002 (from 6/19/21) or newer then it will work with the 5600g out of the box
potent portal
Otherwise you would need an older CPU to flash bios or refund/exchange
Probably not, check the box and it'll say what version it shipped with originally
trim orbit
What if my friend was willing to ship me over a cpu to borrow for a sec
I think it’s a 3600, I helped him build the rig a couple years ago so it should work with a x570fs
potent portal
That would work
X570 works with 3000 out of the box
Unless it's one of the weird ones like 3800XT
mossy venture
I really would just return the 5600g
It's a lot worse than the 5600
Basically a 3600 with an igpu and better imc
elfin flame
What is the best budget board for a 12100(f)? 
I wanna replace parts in my dad's PC.
mossy venture
What is the best budget board for a 12100(f)? <a:JammingFroge:730166317100826644...
There's a $100 msi b660 board
I think so
Io kinda sucks though
potent portal
Io kinda sucks though
Also no heatsinks
potent portal
mossy venture
Pro a same price I thought?
mossy venture
Ah
Rommet is very biased
Hmm?
Was joking
I'm half delirious atm so might not be uhh
What's the word
Whatever
I got my covid shot yesterday and have spent all day sleeping and haven't eaten today
Pro a wifi is $120 iirc
One sec
potent portal
Pro A it is
potent portal
Dats the cheapest with wifi
Not a lot of good tech deals for prime day, just the usual marked up to mark it down "deals" that are just the regular price it's been for weeks
Won't find too many boards that could handle a 12900k with unlocked power limits at that price too
trim orbit
what if i went and ordered a 5800x
potent portal
That would probably work without an update
trim orbit
and i know you said 12th gen is better and i believe you, but i just really want amd lmao
alrighty, well i just might do that then
potent portal
5800X gets HOT though
trim orbit
ah
potent portal
It's one of the hottest modern processors because of the heat density
potent portal
It doesn't even come with a stock cooler, for good reason
trim orbit
ooohhh ok
potent portal
5700X is cooler because lower power limits but you'd need newer bios again
potent portal
That would be fine, especially at 1440p or higher
trim orbit
gotcha
the funny thing is i chose a 3080 but currently have a 1080p 60hz monitor
i plan on upgrading but rn i really dont even need my 3080 lol
i've been using a zephyrus g14 as my daily for around a year now
potent portal
You can use DSR to render in a higher resolution and display in 1080p, it'll look smoother that way
velvet agate
so I got this build and I would like some advice on how to make it better without going higher in price https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CjCtKp
trim orbit
oh cool
change out your memory my man
that was the first kit i got and it was slow
thats what im putting in my new rig and its on a nice sale
velvet agate
thanks
potent portal
Those 2 kits will perform nearly identical though...
potent portal
Sure, if the frequency was the same
velvet agate
If they are nearly identical then I will go with the cheaper of the two haha, im a broke college student
trim orbit
I can't argue with that my man
trim orbit
i stand corrected i suppose
potent portal
3200 to 3600 doesn't make a big difference on Intel
potent portal
If it was AMD absolutely do 3600
long rock
Ive got a 5600X and love it
long rock
Its a nice nice boi
potent portal
I'd go mx330-g air for the case
Am I missing something or is that no longer on pcpp
mossy venture
Am I missing something or is that no longer on pcpp
stoic island
Am I missing something or is that no longer on pcpp
prob incompatible
mossy venture
Oh maybe
long rock
looking for a case?
potent portal
prob incompatible
I unticked the compatibility filter tho
Oh it's the search being stupid
It won't find it if you just type 330
stoic island
mx330
its just how the search algo works I think
so it only looks for 330... words
long rock
phanteks just released a new case, might be worth checking out, its an airflow case if thats what you are going for
potent portal
For some reason their search only starts at the beginning of "words" and can't match the middle
long rock
ive got a p500A and i love it lol
stoic island
g360 is good if you're talking about that
long rock
yeah
its like a baby P500A
my birthday is coming up, may look into a new mouse and some cable management stuff for my case along with an argb controller
long rock
i made the mistake of not realizing i needed a ARGB port on my mobo, so all my fans are dark minus my exaust from my old case. u can see my setup in build chat
trim orbit
dang
empty pollen
fan controllers are just glorified Y splitters 😛
long rock
looked at maybe swapping my G910 keyboard for a 415 i think? its got the brushed alumunim frame, rgb too, but its missing the volume scroll wheel i love
my new pro headset is pretty nice tho
i was between the pro or the 733? and i ended up trying both on and i think the 733 is a little cheap even being wireless for like 130 bucks
the pro is built extremely well for 100 bucks
trim orbit
i have the 733, battery life has degraded and mic isnt great
long rock
went wired because im not about to drop 200 on a wireless
trim orbit
but its light and comfy sooooo
long rock
Yeah
trim orbit
my peripherals include the g502 lightspeed, g733, and a g512 keyboard, and the only thing thats slightly dissapointing is the 733
trim orbit
niceee
the only thing about the 910, and the 512 for that matter, is they're absolutley massive
i really want like a 75% or maybe 60
long rock
the 910 is quitw big, its heavy too
i wish i could have key cap interchangibility
and less plastic
i am looking at the G502 hero mouse too
may go wireless on it
long rock
the 513 carbon is what i like keyboard wise
trim orbit
such a great shape and its hefty
long rock
the 502 has always intriged me
i noticed that too! its a nice heavy mouse
i think i have a well built setup. its all very like, sturdy lol
okey the 502 lightspeed is 80 bucks
would i need the lightspeed deskpad too?
long rock
lol
god the 512 looks so nice but its missing the volume scroll which i love on my 910
i bought the 910 figuring i will eventually prolly need the extra media keys so its better to have and not need than not have and need down the road
oh, on the G502, do you use the freewheel feature a lot scrolling?
potent portal
I use the freewheel all the time on the G502
I like the adjustable weight too, and the hero sensor is excellent
long rock
sweet
may do that as a birthday present
i need a rear case fan too, gonna pick that up, and the argb controller
i think i wanna do a 140 in the back
potent portal
Arctic P14, there's RGB and non models
long rock
i wanted to sync it with my 3 front fans, which is why i was gonna stick with phanteks
unless i could sync another type to it
trying to figure out what to do about an argb controller because i dont think phanteks has what i need
potent portal
Brand doesn't matter as long as it's the same 3 or 4 pin RGB type
long rock
ahh
potent portal
Cooler Master has good RGB/fan hubs
Unless you specifically need a controller because the board doesn't have RGB at all
potent portal
You'll need a controller that has a decent remote and mode settings then
long rock
ahh
potent portal
Some you can connect to a USB header and it acts like a RGB header
long rock
https://www.razer.com/gaming-pc-accessories/razer-chroma-addressable-rgb-controller idk if i can post links here but this is what i was looking at lol
ive got that odd 3 pin in the back and nowhere to hook it up lol
Looks like this
phanteks has a fan hub but i dont think it supports the argb pins, may be wrong
potent portal
Wow Razer makes a garbage product page
I can't tell if that requires an ARGB header
long rock
lemme show ya what ive got then lol
potent portal
Ok found the install manual and that's one of those controllers that connects by USB header I mentioned
So that would work
long rock
Ahh, ive got USB ports avaible too I think
potent portal
No not the ports, the actual 2.0 header on the board
potent portal
long rock
ooooo
Yeah they are on the bottom of my board marked USB
soo, rear fan, the controller, and maybe an SSD
thats right guys, i dont have an SSD
potent portal
Too bad MP33 sale ended
Still a good price at $72 but it got as low as $63
For 1TB
long rock
yeah
thats actually not a bad price
i will be burning a hole in my wallet tommorow with the mountan bike rebuild so imma wait till my birthday and see if prices on them have changed at all
potent portal
Fair. Should still be good prices for the things we've discussed.
long rock
ye
i found a Crucial MX500 for like 90 bucks, i could get it down to like 75 with a promo code
potent portal
Don't have M.2?
long rock
ooh it doesnt lol
potent portal
You could add M.2 using a PCIe adapter
If the PC is newer than the last gen of AM3+ it can boot from nvme
long rock
its an AM4 board, i thought you mean the ssd didnt have M2 lol
pretty sure my board does then
long rock
yup its got it lol
potent portal
You could get the MP33 for $72 then
long rock
oooo
potent portal
Ooh actually Silicon Power A60 for $70
long rock
i ma save that
potent portal
long rock
got that saved lol
trim orbit
Too bad MP33 sale ended
Yeahp, I bought one and I think it’s gonna be great
potent portal
It's a really good budget drive, you'll love it
trim orbit
Dang haha
south cliff
I’m probably going to do the worst thing with money buy Csgo cases
obsidian wigeon
your wallet is crying
rugged anvil
fossil cedar
<@191276897227898880> so this is the 2tb ssd I should get SK hynix Gold P31 2TB ...
Yes it's better
elfin flame
I've got a challenge for someone:
Make a $500 AUD build w/ 16GB of RAM and 512GB M.2 SSD.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2JLqBj
This is the best I could do.
fossil cedar
You realize that's gonna be an office pc
potent portal
fossil cedar
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/K7tH8
This also mine is infinitely better cus your board has no nvme slot unless you like playing bios simulator 
Uh wtf
That is not the list i made
There we go
Could just grab that board and go like bx500
potent portal
Get a $10 PCIe M.2 adapter and call it a day
fossil cedar
Yeah but why do that when the prime board is 10 more anyway lol
potent portal
Then get the $5 one 
potent portal
Bruh just go 4200g or something and it'll game way better than a 710
potent portal
I did not say 5600g for a reason lol
cyan ravine
yeah but it's the cheapest one on pcpp
potent portal
I didn't see a rule against manual price entry in the terms of the "contest"
cyan ravine
well if I throw $10 more to mine I have all decent quality parts
A-BN is a tier C PSU 
potent portal
That's plenty for iGPU builds
runic spruce
If ur really on a budget u could just make a case out of the cardboard https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HRQMTn
runic spruce
I just realized I made a gaming pc to squeal to 370 usd
I could prob do better if 2nd hand was an option
Oh
vague oracle
Heheheh we love the OEM bomb PSU
UHD 730 should be able to at least somewhat game in lighter titles
fossil cedar
bUt iT wIlL mElT
cyan ravine
If you ditch the case and pick and MSI A-BN it goes to 488 and you only have to deal with throttling VRMs
runic spruce
https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-gamers-nexus-pc-bomb-planted-gif-22845602
Plant the bomb on A
vague oracle
C is the better plant but ok
cyan ravine
Plant it in E (tier)
cyan ravine
Tbf having a case with a bomh psu I would feel safer than one without
Always good to have a blast shield
runic spruce
Fun fact
U can put your psu in a water loop
And real life is like mc, no blast damage in water
cyan ravine
Probably have similar success with a toaster lol
fossil cedar
$500.26 https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/d7cVGL
I see that and i raise you 13$ more for not bomb
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HZB7pH
cyan ravine
WAIT
add a p12 over the vrm for the remaining $12
And you have no more vrm issues
This is genius
Then
Perfect
strong raft
cases? where we're going, we don't need cases.
cyan ravine
vague oracle
I see that and i raise you 13$ more for not bomb
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/lis...
Smh, what fun is it if your pc can’t have the possibility of blowing up
olive cypress
NZXT be like:
Hey let's make a post to make some people laugh
3 seconds later: gets roasted by some random dude 
vague oracle
Hey the PSU isn’t a bomb
fossil cedar
Smh, what fun is it if your pc can’t have the possibility of blowing up
True
And aus uses 230v 
sharp bear
my pc is recognizing my usb stick but somehow the creation tool isn't, tried formating the stick but still no results. Any ideas?
fossil cedar
my pc is recognizing my usb stick but somehow the creation tool isn't, tried for...
What's your stick formatted as? Needs to be fat32
sharp bear
It is formated as fat32
other usb sticks aren't getting recognized too
Which should I choose?
plugged it in the mainboard, now it works
frigid night
plugged it in the mainboard, now it works<:steveconfused:722597717465104414>
Maybe the USB connector from your case is not plugged in all the way then?
fossil cedar
Maybe the USB connector from your case is not plugged in all the way then?
But it's only not being detected in the media creation tool 
frigid night
Hm
Well then the media creation tool is just prejudice against the cases USB ports.
sharp bear
after installing windows I plugged the lan cable, but it doesn't connect to the internet
olive cypress
Idk try this
https://youtu.be/p9jmQgPg7mg
frank stirrup
after installing windows I plugged the lan cable, but it doesn't connect to the ...
Have ur drivers sorted?
sharp bear
I just finished setting up windows
sharp bear
Idk try this
https://youtu.be/p9jmQgPg7mg
it didn't work :(
sharp bear
where do I find my ip address/subnet mask/default gateway and DNS?
frank stirrup
where do I find my ip address/subnet mask/default gateway and DNS?
dns 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1
ip address will be on ur router
192.168.xxx.yyy
the .yyy can be anything u want
subnet mask will be 255.255.255.0
onyx oxide
I have some left over cash is was looking into some parts possibly and looking for recommendations. I am already looking at a Kraken to replace my current CPU Cooler that I don't think is made anymore but anything extra would be great knowledge to have https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fVHQfv
sharp bear
It still says "unidentified network"
fossil cedar
I have some left over cash is was looking into some parts possibly and looking f...
Kraken is overpriced and meh aio in the first place, also just not needed for a 2600, first upgrade would probably be to a better ssd tbh and put your windows install on that, team mp33 500gb or 1tb is a great choice atm. Could upgrade your gpu to something although that would depend on budget, if you still had budget, could upgrade to a ryzen 5 5600, also the stock amd cooler is going to be better than the one you have atm. If upgrading gpu you will need a new power supply and would highly recommend a better case, tbh might be just worth selling your current pc and building from scratch
frank stirrup
Kraken is overpriced and meh aio in the first place, also just not needed for a ...
REEEEEEE WALL OF TEXT
Honestly
how dare u pato
smh
fossil cedar
Well they asked
onyx oxide
Kraken is overpriced and meh aio in the first place, also just not needed for a ...
oooffff... really? It was a prebuilt to be honest and I don't have much knowledge of hardware and I currently use it for work while using for games and streaming so I don't think I would be able to sell it unless I had another on standby at the current moment
if it helps I have like maybe 1000 to play with
onyx oxide
I wouldn't mind sell and rebuild but I would have to rebuild and then sell
Like I would get all the parts and then buy it using Affirm or something, get the pieces, build, and then sell this one or keep it for my wife
flint sapphire
Well I’d do both of Patos suggestions like the nvme and 5600x, should put you back around 300-400
Could probably pick up a 3060 and be within that $1000 budget still
onyx oxide
Isn't there an insane deal somewhere for that type of ssd? WB Black or whatever it's called
Again, i'm super noob to hardware...
flint sapphire
I’d suggest looking at our deal chat, wb black is solid but the p31 is practically best in class
vague oracle
Yeah best buy has the 2tb SN850 for $135 iirc
flint sapphire
And that
vague oracle
Cheaper than a 2tb P31 too
onyx oxide
it's actually 121 near me lol
flint sapphire
Pretty much any gen 3+ nvme will be a huge upgrade
onyx oxide
oh wait that's 1TB
Ok i'll definitely look into that. Is there any chance you know where that goes on this motherboard? i've looked and don't see the spot
flint sapphire
Mind just taking a picture fast? Might be under your gpu
onyx oxide
I think I see it actually... under the GPU Fan?
flint sapphire
Is it just like a thin tall rectangle with 3 holes for standoffs horizontal to it 👀
onyx oxide
flint sapphire
That’s the one
onyx oxide
Awesome! ok I'll see if I can pick that up soon. What was the other thing he recommended? A new GPU right?
flint sapphire
A new cpu and gpu
mossy venture
You could also run a 5600 on that mobo with a bios update, and I'd replace psu and gpu next
flint sapphire
5600
flint sapphire
You’d still be in budget
onyx oxide
So the list I have is NVME, PSU (AUSU 650), and 5600 GPU correct?
isnt the 2TB WB-black like 56% off on newegg right now?
Or if we do a new motherboard is the same price with the 1TB
flint sapphire
Okay the cpu is a ryzen 5 5600x gpu is a 3060 or something around 400 like the radeon 6600 (not to familiar with amd pricing) and the power supply you got. The sn850 is way more worth it for your use case, wd black is a gen 4 nvme which you won’t be able to use to its full speed on your mobo
vague oracle
SN850 is wd black…
flint sapphire
Pfff w.e
vague oracle
flint sapphire
Wait it’s the same drive
still roostBOT
neverrelmer#5002 has been warned
flint sapphire
I’m going crazy
onyx oxide
I was just excited the price on a 5600x lol
flint sapphire
The 5600x is a great upgrade tho
onyx oxide
I meant that's it's 56% off right now lol
flint sapphire
Should be around 179 usd
onyx oxide
that's correct. I'm now looking at the radeons
vague oracle
Asus tuf, not strix
onyx oxide
Or this one?
vague oracle
The second one
mossy venture
onyx oxide
I don't see any SN850 that isnt' Gen4
onyx oxide
Okay the cpu is a ryzen 5 5600x gpu is a 3060 or something around 400 like the r...
So I shouldn't get the Gen4?
fossil cedar
if it helps I have like maybe 1000 to play with
Oh yeah I'd definitely sell your current pc then and just buy a new one, would you like to do 1k + money from selling pc or just 1k?
mossy venture
Tho I'd keep the hdd
onyx oxide
Oh yeah I'd definitely sell your current pc then and just buy a new one, would y...
I know you are trying to help but it feels like you are just saying everything I have sucks lol
fossil cedar
Yeah you can keep some hard rrives
mossy venture
I know you are trying to help but it feels like you are just saying everything I...
I mean
Lowkey
onyx oxide
I get it, i get it lol
mossy venture
When you're looking at putting 1k into it, the only things you'd keep are maybe motherboard, case, and hdd
onyx oxide
At the time I didn't know this place existed and I needed a computer fast
fossil cedar
I know you are trying to help but it feels like you are just saying everything I...
Not at all it's a perfectly capable pc just not really worth your time upgrading much as almost everything but the motherboard and hard drives would require a replacement and at that stage you're building a new pc
sharp bear
contacted micorsoft in regard to this issue, it didn't help at all
onyx oxide
Not at all it's a perfectly capable pc just not really worth your time upgrading...
Ok, if you don't mind showing me 1,000 one without selling this one would be great. I can just wipe this and give it to my wife for a Sims machine/steam machine for the living room or something
I'll still keep that list for upgrading this one a little bit later just so it's an ok machine and i'll replace the PSU just in case since @mossy venture has be worried about it lol
fossil cedar
Yeah sure, you looking to build yourself or do you want a prebuilt?
onyx oxide
I gotta learn someday lol. I'll build it myself and save the extra 100 for a better part
fossil cedar
Cool, you can either save 100 or so or get better parts, up to you
onyx oxide
Cool, you can either save 100 or so or get better parts, up to you
i'd rather get better parts so I can at least coast on it for a bit till a get a raise at work lol
fossil cedar
If you can go a bit over 1k I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DKVH8r
onyx oxide
And I'll use my own CPU Cooler fan right?
Some of the prices are higher on Amazon.... Super rude of you amazon
onyx oxide
Yeah best buy has the 2tb SN850 for $135 iirc
@flint sapphire was saying that Gen4 wasn't going to work?
flint sapphire
no itll work it just wont run at full speed
onyx oxide
no itll work it just wont run at full speed
AH! I misread, my apologies
fossil cedar
And I'll use my own CPU Cooler fan right?
Just the stock intel cooler, although you could get an aftermarket one for about 20$ which would be a bit cooler and a good bit quieter just trying to stay closer to 1k but here's a list with the 2 after market coolers i would choose
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sThTzf
fossil cedar
Some of the prices are higher on Amazon.... Super rude of you amazon
That's the beauty of pc part picker, it gives you the lowest price for each part, if you where to do Amazon only you'd have to spend a bit more for the same pc
onyx oxide
Just the stock intel cooler, although you could get an aftermarket one for about...
Ah I see. So coolers don't matter? like i know I need one but it's not like they don't have the problem of working together like most parts
fossil cedar
Emm it's mainly just the stock ones are good enough for the ~150-200$ cpus usually
onyx oxide
Emm it's mainly just the stock ones are good enough for the ~150-200$ cpus usual...
That makes more sense. I'll take a look at all the stuff and see which is the best for me for right now. Thanks to you @flint sapphire @mossy venture and @vague oracle for all of your helps! I have a lists saved so I don't forget
fossil cedar
Np
onyx oxide
…I helped?
you mentioned a part. It may have been one thing but I wouldn't of known about it lol
sharp bear
4 hours later no results, Microsoft support sucks bad
It is so disappointing to have such an issue
obsidian wigeon
your ethernet driver is missing
obsidian wigeon
yep
download ethernet driver for you board
onto a usb stick then put it onto the rig
obsidian wigeon
mobo
sharp bear
Do I need to get in BIOS?
obsidian wigeon
no
fossil cedar
Drivers are OS related
sharp bear
Now I installed the driver, should I restart?
nothing changed
I don't get it
one last chance, I installed the driver for windows 11🤦♂️
Do I need to uninstall the driver now?
tawdry ember
nothing changed
Not sure if you've tried any of this, but this has allegedly solved your problem - https://windowsreport.com/wi-fi-doesnt-have-a-valid-ip-configuration-windows-11/
This has step by step to uninstall/install drivers and everything just read it
untold vessel
Could we fit a value budget AIO and NVIDIA 3060ti in this build? I have $200 more to work with
untold vessel
Thoughts on these?
https://www.newegg.com/black-rosewill-prism-s500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811147283?Item=N82E16811147283
VS.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pqzhP6/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk02
mossy venture
that rosewill is mediocre at best
g360a is a great case
could also consider 4000d airflow
untold vessel
Understood
g360a vs 4000d thoughts?
I buying these all right now
This second, it's happening
mossy venture
thats personal preference
theyre both great cases
both can support 360mm aios, both have great airflow
mossy venture
4000d airflow i believe comes with 2 non rgb
untold vessel
hmmmmmmmmmm
untold vessel
Yeah tbh
Okay next up
Can we do something more budget friendly for that cooler
Does that $100 jump from the aircooler really pack a punch?
untold vessel
yeah honestly I'm not getting much temps on this anyways
Do I really need an AIO for this build?
mossy venture
no
untold vessel
Oh then 100% ak620
mossy venture
ak620 fine for a 12700f, only time you need an aio on is if youre ocing or have a 12900/5950x/debatably 5800x (my friends 5800x sits around 88c with a drp4)
untold vessel
yeah no ocing here
mossy venture
yeah, since its a b660
untold vessel
yeah to be completely honest with ourselves
well, okay then!
if ak620 is fine for 12700f
how is it for 12600kf
mossy venture
its what me and a lot of others here recommend for them often
untold vessel
Very well, that's what I'll do
Okay so I buy these parts
do I need to buy anything else
Screwdrivers? Flash Drive? Thermal Paste?
mossy venture
could add some more fans if you wanted, but not needed
thermal paste comes with the ak620
mossy venture
if you wanted could get some mx-5, but wont make a huge difference
untold vessel
Screwdrivers and flash drive?
mossy venture
that im unsure on
obsidian wigeon
ah you're welcome
mossy venture
actually one sec
untold vessel
should I upgrade considering the price difference of only a couple bucks more
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GvmmP6/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-ddr4 this is a great deal
fossil cedar
will this matx board be okay in the g360a
Nah
mossy venture
tho no wifi
untold vessel
Nah
why so
I've noted that Pato says matx are a no go in regular cases, but why exactly?
fossil cedar
or will it look odd
Sorry meant to reply to this
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GvmmP6/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherbo...
imo if you dont need wifi on the board this is worth it
untold vessel
Hold on forg, How did you find this nice $480 3060ti
mossy venture
just looking through pcp
untold vessel
it isn't searchable on pcpartpicker
when i sort by lowest to highest price on 3060ti's
fossil cedar
Press the 3060 ti lhr filter
untold vessel
lhr?
potent portal
You have to expand the GPU options, there's more models
untold vessel
what is LHR
mossy venture
low hash rate
fossil cedar
Light hash rate
mossy venture
its irrelevant now
untold vessel
How do we search properly
mossy venture
it doesnt affect gaming perf, and its been 100% bypassed except on 3080 12gb and 3050s
mossy venture
untold vessel
nvm found it
had to extend the options
what is the difference between LHR cards and non LHR cards
mossy venture
nothing