#building-and-recc-chat

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desert gulch
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Ability to overclock and a couple performance cores

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That's the main difference

haughty rover
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Which one should I get

desert gulch
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What's the price difference?

mossy venture
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for you, you most likely wont feel much of a difference in most games between the 12600kf and 12700f

mossy venture
desert gulch
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I'd go 12700f then imo

mossy venture
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might be 60

desert gulch
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Either go 12400f or just jump to 12700f

mossy venture
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i dont feel like checking

haughty rover
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Ok

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Ty for yalls help

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MSI Full HD Gaming RGB Non-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms 1920 x 1080 144Hz Refresh Rate Adjustable Height Arm FreeSync 27” IPS Gaming Monitor (Optix MAG273R), Black (OPTIXMAG273R) a good monitor for the pc?

mossy venture
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if youre fine with curved

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1440p is nice to have with a 3080

haughty rover
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Ok

cyan ravine
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Q is flat, QC is curved

haughty rover
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This is my secondary

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SAMSUNG T350 Series 22-Inch FHD 1080p Computer Monitor, 75Hz, IPS Panel, HDMI, VGA (D-Sub), 3-Sided Border-Less, FreeSync (LF22T350FHNXZA)

cyan ravine
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That's fine for a second screen

haughty rover
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Yeah

cyan ravine
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Really any cheap thing unless you intend to use it for colour-accurate work

mossy venture
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G27q is curved

mossy venture
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VA or ips

haughty rover
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Ok

mossy venture
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Wait that does actually look flat

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Am I going crazy

haughty rover
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Ty

mossy venture
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It is flat

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I'm going crazy

cyan ravine
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Lol

mossy venture
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Sorry felix

cyan ravine
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All good

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Makes you wonder why G27Q exists sometimes LUL

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But it's a good screen, great price

haughty rover
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Sooo

mossy venture
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Sooo?

haughty rover
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Still get it?

mossy venture
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Yes

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Imo

cyan ravine
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Yea for sure

mossy venture
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M27q is overpriced atm

haughty rover
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Ok lol

mossy venture
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$360

haughty rover
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Daym

mossy venture
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Otherwise I'd normally suggest that

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G27q still great though

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Especially at $250

haughty rover
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Yeah it's 314 on Amazon thou

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Prob gonna get through newegg

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Should I get the protection plan it's trying to get me to buy

mossy venture
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Imo nah

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Believe it comes with warranty from gigglebyte

haughty rover
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Ok

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Dude I just realized the graphics card is the most expensive part of the pc

strong raft
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Yea pretty much always been a thing unless you wasted money on certain cpus in the past. (AHEM extreme edition Intels, haha)

frigid night
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That pfp is sus.

boreal notch
strong raft
mossy venture
merry lake
strong raft
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Curved is the QC/FC.

cyan ravine
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It's 3.2 gen 2x2

patent oasis
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The fans go inside or outside

mossy venture
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what case is that?

forest briar
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Typically it’s the inside for wires

flint sapphire
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Inside.

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4000d I just recently built in with the fans on the inside of the case kekw

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cyan ravine
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Fans are a perfect colour match there

patent oasis
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Msi board

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Where do these go

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forest briar
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Check the motherboard manual

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It’ll show you

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^

cyan rune
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whenever I asked the person I hired to help me build my pc, I was kindly told to “look at the manual, dip####”

cyan rune
strong raft
forest briar
jagged ember
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I mean it is good advice if you aren't mean about it

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at least, for pinouts

cyan rune
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The person I hired knows me well

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He wasn’t being mean about it

jagged ember
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generally that is used negatively so

cyan rune
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Generally, yeah

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But when it’s mutual, it’s funny

patent oasis
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It wont turn iff

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Can i just turn it off via psu

jagged ember
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well is there video output?

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if not just hold the power button

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if yes just shut it down from windows

patent oasis
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It wouldnt turn off on command

strong raft
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For 1st boot or not, try hdmi. DisplayPort sort of needs drivers.

patent oasis
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Alright

frank cloak
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Hi all. Found out my AMD Ryzen 7 2nd gen is dead. Want to switch to Intel. Want to reuse what I can. Vid card should still be good. Memory is DDR4 2666, 2x8GB, so I think I’m good there. I’d like to reuse liquid cooler too. Are AMD and Intel liquid coolers interchangeable?

desert gulch
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With a new build you would need a new lga1700 bracket for it to work on brand new intel

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You could reuse the cooler aslong as you found the lga1700 bracket, probably by contacting the company

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Although some manufacturers sell the lga1700 bracket on Amazon or whatever for like $5 so there may be that option aswell

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If we knew the specific model, we could probably find that out for you

frank cloak
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The PC was a CyberPowerPC build. Big mistake. Cooler has their logo. So I don’t know the manufacturer. Guess I’m getting a new cooler too. Or still stick with AMD. Thanks.

desert gulch
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Np, could ask them as last resort or just go amd

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Good chance the motherboard would work with a Ryzen 5 5600 after a bios update or something

mossy venture
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oh

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shouldve read down

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id also recommend new ram, 2666mhz is kinda slow

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you can get a 32gb 3200c16 kit for $90 or a 16gb kit for $15

desert gulch
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Not much difference tho for the price

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It's already dual channel which is nice

frank cloak
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I haven’t built a pc in probably 10 years or more. I’ve used laptops. I always used AMD, but I recall having issues. Wasn’t sure if it was b/c I built it or it was AMD. Had issues with this pc too. Explorer would lock up. Makes me wonder if it’s AMD. But it also used OTS parts, which I would’ve done.

mossy venture
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its definitely not amd

frank cloak
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I’m gathering that. Prolly get a new MB, lightning strike nearby, fried 3 USB devices. Sent MB to Gigabyte, told no issues. I find that hard to believe. Not sure I trust it or them anymore.

bright dome
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are these temps hot??

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running i7 12700k withiCue elite 150

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intels website says they have built in safetys to prevent overheating

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Device name Grandpa
Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700K 3.61 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable)

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

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this is my system

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and these are the temps while playing conan exiles

desert nebula
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Can someone help me with wifi. I don't know what to buy.

bright dome
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I have the MSI z690 ddr4 wifi6 mb and i get awesome wifi downloads of 500Mb+ on a wifi connection and 900Mb+ on hardwired connection

strong raft
bright dome
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ok, ty

desert gulch
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Also nobody uses fahrenheit for PC temps

strong raft
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I'm going to just to mess with people.

desert gulch
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It's all in Celsius, even the USA people do it

bright dome
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lol

desert gulch
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If the USA people use a metric unit, that's pretty important

bright dome
merry lake
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@mossy venture i hit a max of 63c while gaming with the h510i and the 212 cpu cooler lolol

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and im in arizona, hottest fkn state ever

cyan ravine
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Prolly a 65W cpu that one

obsidian wigeon
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what cpu

bright dome
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another question... shouldnt my icue be pulling air through the radiator instead of pushing airm through it?

cyan ravine
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iCUE is a software, it can't pull anything mechanically

obsidian wigeon
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it still doesn't change the fact that h510 series apart from flow is crap cooling wise

cyan ravine
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Lol but pushing or pulling air, as long as the fans are working on the rad, either way is honestly fine

strong raft
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push or pull doesn't matter long as the airflow is actually in the correct direction. 12700K has a lot in it, but 65-70C seems warm for 15% load. idk. Pump rpm so variable is mainly what I see . Anyone else have something to add?

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merry lake
bright dome
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okay let me rephrase the question... shouldnt my aio be pulling air through the radiator from outside the unit instead of the otherway around?

cyan ravine
obsidian wigeon
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huh

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how did it get that low of a temp is a wonder to me

cyan ravine
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Oh wait no, that's at 100

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The highs and lows vary by like 30rpm

obsidian wigeon
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but ya know there's still better cases for less

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just to add

merry lake
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i set up the fans good i thin

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think

cyan ravine
bright dome
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and correction, i have the H100i

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its set on top

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so that would mean the outflow it is doing is good??

cyan ravine
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Yes

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Realistically it still doesn't really matter

bright dome
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k, ty

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I was just concerned because for such a simple game to be pulling those temps, I couldn't even imagine a more harder game what temps I would be pulling

strong raft
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For pump click on balanced, I'm curious what other options there are. A higher speed pump setting could definitely see if cpu temp will get a bit lower.

cyan ravine
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I should note btw, a h100i on a 12700K is really asking for the higher temps of itself

bright dome
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and BTW I changed it all to MAX FANS AND PUMP

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WHAT COOLER WOULD YOU ALL SUGGEST?

cyan ravine
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You really want a 280 or 360 aio for that cpu

bright dome
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sorry caps

cyan ravine
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Arctic liquid freezer II 360 or EVGA CLC 360 (<<On sale rn)

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Make sure the case can fit it first

obsidian wigeon
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clc is loud

bright dome
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kk gonna check right now

obsidian wigeon
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but you can limit the fans to 70%

cyan ravine
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Still cheaper than LF2

bright dome
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shoot evga only 79.00 thats half what I paid for thre H100 LOL

cyan ravine
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Yup

bright dome
cyan ravine
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And it's solid

bright dome
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let me go to pcbuilder to ensure it fits first

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well it says it will fit

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thank you peeps for your help, i'll order this tonight

frank stirrup
bright dome
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lol, ty I aint a young pup anymore so I depend on new tech to help me with decisions... and you guys

bright dome
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okay peeps, it doesn't actually say it is compatiable with the socket LGA1700

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am I just not reading it right?

mossy venture
bright dome
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okay, ty

torn peak
frigid night
torn peak
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No.

frigid night
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Ok lol

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Why the expensive ones?

torn peak
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Corsair fan (pun intended)

cyan ravine
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How much of this is already bought?

torn peak
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Motherboard, PSU, fans (minus 3), SSD 980 drive, Commander Core XT, Commander Core, keyboard, mouse, headset, light strips, monitors

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So a good chunk of it

frigid night
cyan ravine
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It'll all still sync to iCUE so you still get to use that if that's your thing

frank stirrup
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also what u got rn

torn peak
frank stirrup
torn peak
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B550 board is fine

torn peak
cyan ravine
torn peak
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Because I don't have the 5000D

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I have the 4000D

cyan ravine
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Ok. Let's ask this instead. Why a 5000D when you already have a 4000D?

rotund zealot
frigid night
rotund zealot
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5000d/x is great

torn peak
rotund zealot
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5000d is chonk Pog

cyan ravine
torn peak
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That way the GPU can get the air it needs

cyan ravine
torn peak
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Because side fans pull in air and the front ones push it over the GPU

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Hence the ML120 Elite fans

rotund zealot
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Tcb

torn peak
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Kes help

frigid night
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The front ones pull in air AND push it over the gpu thinksmart

rotund zealot
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Buy mls from the eBay store

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36 bux for 4 mls

cyan ravine
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You could change the fans at that price to T30's in your 4000D and have more success than spending twice as much for ML120's and a 5000D

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More to the point it's a gross waste of income

rotund zealot
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Ehhh on ebay you can get 4 ml120s for 36 dollars

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Brand new

cyan ravine
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5 p12's for less tho

rotund zealot
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The one that come with the capellix

rotund zealot
cyan ravine
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Ehhhh

frigid night
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And p12s are more than enough in a 4000D

cyan ravine
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P12's actually look dope in a 4/5000D

rotund zealot
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Thats cheaper then the p12 argbs

frigid night
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I run antec prizm x and still get phenomenal temps.

rotund zealot
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P12 argbs are 46 bucks

cyan ravine
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New

rotund zealot
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The mls are also new.

torn peak
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a single ML120 elite is $30

rotund zealot
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Its just some system integrator ditching the mls on the coolers

frigid night
cyan ravine
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Alright. But this still absolutely doesn't change the fact that he wants to spend $200 for nearly 0 benefit

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Let alone the ram, cooler, the 5800X3d and the GPU all being a bad marriage

frigid night
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Its just a thrown together build yeah?

torn peak
torn peak
cyan ravine
rotund zealot
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Bruv. Buy the ml pro 8led on eBay.

torn peak
frigid night
cyan ravine
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That's what, 150 extra. So actually 300? 300 extra?

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Uhhh

torn peak
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However 4000D before I got the airflow panel:

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Black Friday sale so it was cheaper

cyan ravine
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Right and the 4000D is still fine

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So before this goes off the rails, are you asking for advice? Or is this just a show and tell

frigid night
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The only reason to really go with 5000D over 4000D is if you plan to

  1. Use a gpu and cpu with both having an AIO
  2. Building a custom loop
rotund zealot
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Dual aio buildkekw

torn peak
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Show off my future build

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I'm under no obligation to follow what you recommended

cyan ravine
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Ok well I won't say anymore then

rotund zealot
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He didn't ask for advice anywhere wuuut

cyan ravine
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3 people responded with suggestions. It's the underlying context of the channel. I don't think we were entirely out of line. But I won't say anymore about the build

frigid night
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I mean, I get that he didn't ask for advice, but its hard when we care about our members and not wasting money when cheaper/better options exist out there. Of course we are gonna put our thoughts out there and try to change their mind.

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This is build chat after all.

torn peak
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I respect all builds no matter the choices of the builder/user

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However I will recommend some better products for either a little more or little less

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But a PC is mainly personal choice. What specific parts the user wants

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According to this, it's an S- tier board

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Aka, some of the best VRMs out there

onyx whale
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How long before "DDR6" RAM comes out? is that even on the table yet?

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oh it looks like 2024.

analog hearth
onyx whale
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Yeah I'm just curious about how long it takes for the next gen. I had ddr3 until about a year ago lmao

analog hearth
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I did some basic statistics math (primarily because I’m bored). but yeah it looks like DDR6 with release around 2024 or 2025

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fossil cedar
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On avg like 6 years

mossy venture
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One out of every like twenty times I boot my pc, the lights and fans and all come on, but the display doesn't come on, bios thing doesn't flash (where it says asrock, and f2/del to access bios)

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I have to hold the power button to turn it off, and then when I turn it back on its fine

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Anything I should be concerned about?

cyan ravine
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Goes all the way through post though?

mossy venture
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after i turn it off, yes

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and back on ofc

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when it doesnt post, nothing comes up on the monitor

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im assuming its a mobo issue, which would actually be fine since im replacing it later this year

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or drive

frank stirrup
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Updoot bios

mossy venture
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kk

fossil cedar
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Yeah update bios

still roostBOT
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Lyss#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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yes these are trash-tier cpus but not sure which out of these variations would be the theoretical "optimal/best"

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mossy venture
little osprey
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AM2 Machine I have I'm trying to show a little love

mossy venture
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Nothing would be a noticeable increase tbh

little osprey
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so like these would be a notable performance jump from that

mossy venture
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I stand by what I said

mossy venture
little osprey
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Or did you mean out of those varitations? if so mb

mossy venture
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My old laptop with a 4030u is as strong as the 6000+ from what I can tell

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It has trouble running minecraft

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Actually much stronger multi core

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Wait im confused now

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One second

potent portal
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Does your board support AM2+?

little osprey
potent portal
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It's the same socket so it would just be a bios update

little osprey
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It's OEM

potent portal
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Do you have a model number for the board? Or at least the PC?

little osprey
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Dell Dimension E521

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From what I've seen, no one has used any higher than the 89w variations of the 6000+

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Not sure why people stray away from the 125 other than presumption the PSU couldn't handle it/heat but I don't think That'd be that much of a problem? can the CPU Fan even be changed on these? if not I'm sure a slight PSU upgrade would still do just fine? 🤔

timber marsh
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Question to someone, recently I need to reinstall windows but don't have aUSB, would I beable to take the ssd out of the pc, plug it into a different pc and install windows 10 setup on it, then move it back to the other pc and have it run fine?

little osprey
little osprey
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if it auto installs some

little osprey
potent portal
potent portal
little osprey
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I don't know I've literally been doing heavy compiling with the current cpu and it didn't seem to even be getting that hot but I guess so

little osprey
potent portal
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Those old chips have a max temp around 60C

little osprey
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ohh that makes more sense

obsidian wigeon
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very low max temp

flat tinsel
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best way to install 3 pin RGB fan to 4 pin RG header mobo?

forest briar
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You need an adapter

merry lake
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i like me new case

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h510i

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i get good temps

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surprisingly

jagged ember
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on what hardware?

olive cypress
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That's sus

vale veldt
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Rtx 2060 KO
R7 3700x
16 gb corsair rgb ram
b450 ds3h
EVGA GOLD PSU 850 WATT
ROSEWILL ATX BLUE LED CASE
Seagate barracuda hd
Some other ssd i won from robey tech
adata su750 sd

I’m buying a used pc off my friend, what’s a good price for this

olive cypress
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Maybe 800?
750?

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700?

vale veldt
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Anyone else have opinions?^

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Is that a realistic price

olive cypress
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Those are good components that can keep up for long time

vale veldt
olive cypress
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That's a lot

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It's used, not new

desert gulch
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I'd pay probs 700-750

south kite
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7-750 as already suggested is fair

mossy venture
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For $900, you get a 12400f 6650xt build I believe

vale veldt
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Can I upload a picture

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I just confronted him

mossy venture
vale veldt
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I told him to take his silly games elsewhere

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
strong prawn
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when did x99 support m.2 nvme?

frank stirrup
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and ssd or hdd

strong prawn
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8 8tb with 2 ssd 1tb

south kite
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You can add whatever as long as you repurpose the pcie lanes. I wouldn’t touch that board with a 10 foot pole tho

strong prawn
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my synoloy keep failing and eating hard drives

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been rma twice

frank stirrup
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just a consumer board with 2 m.2 slots

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and a sata expansion card

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which is pretty cheap too

strong prawn
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yeah trying to find it on the cheap dont need a gaming board

south kite
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But you need lots of data lanes which takes more expensive boards typically

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Could probably do a b550/b660 though

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I’m sure someone could help you out with a budget and if you’re buying everything or already have certain hardware

strong prawn
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got most of it just need a good motherboard cpu for it

frank stirrup
strong prawn
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dont i need more ram tho with unraid ?

south kite
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Yeah I went with an h670 for the extra pcie slot lanes when I needed an expansion card

frank stirrup
south kite
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^^^

strong prawn
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can the i3 to handle plex transcoding?

south kite
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12100 is like a 7700k

frank stirrup
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heres a sata expansion card

frank stirrup
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got an igpu as well to display

strong prawn
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ok

frank stirrup
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its quite a bit better at everything

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20-30% better multi core and single core

strong prawn
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i was looking at the i5-12400f as its cheap

south kite
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True was more equating it to older i7 performance as in don’t overlook it because it’s I3

earnest olive
frank stirrup
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thats just wrong

south kite
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I swear this is the most argumentative server I’ve ever been on lol

earnest olive
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i3-12100 even beats an i7-7800x

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i mean if you're going to type wrong information don't act surprised when it gets corrected

frank stirrup
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Yes

south kite
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If you take it 100% literal yes

frank stirrup
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...

earnest olive
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...? how is cpu performance supposed to be taken any way but literal

frank stirrup
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so when you say 7700k, you dont literally mean 7700k

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what

south kite
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I said like first

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Not the same

earnest olive
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hey guys i9-10900K and i9-12900K are basically the same thing why not just spend $600 on an i9-10900K

south kite
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As in 4c8t

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How about you ask what I meant?

earnest olive
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ah yes, all 4c/8t chips are the same

south kite
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Instead of assuming

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I didn’t say same

earnest olive
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i7-860 and i3-12300 are the same

south kite
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Your reading is poor

frank stirrup
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How about you learn to express yourself better and not say one thing while meaning the other.

south kite
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Leaving this trash server

frank stirrup
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Bye

earnest olive
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mans couldn't just accept that he was spouting misinformation

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acting like performance numbers are up to interpretation

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that's a new one

frank stirrup
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He was on vast amounts of copium

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bro when i say 7700k i dont mean 7700k i mean all old i7s bro

calm roost
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What's up all

little osprey
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Yo

calm roost
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Waiting on my CPU and Case to arrive to finish building another system

little osprey
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Exciting

calm roost
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Yeah, 4th build in 2 months. Building is too much fun when parts are actually available

little osprey
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Lol. Hopefully your wallet is coping well 😂

calm roost
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LOL yeah my wallet is good. Build to sell.

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11400F, NZXT Z490, Corsair Vengeance RAM, H510 Flow, Vetroo V5, H510 Flow, EVGA 750 GT, 970 EVO Plus 1TB

analog hearth
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lmao why did bro get so angry

earnest olive
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sometimes people just can't accept being wrong

jagged ember
rancid schooner
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Looking to somewhat of this build: what u think
Intel i7 core
2x 8g memory ram
Intel motherboard but idk what one
Rtx 2070 graphic card already have
500w-600w power supply
1tb storage as well
Any other idea would be good. Or anything.

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Need some advice pls

desert gulch
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It's too broad. I7 could be from 10 years ago or 10 months ago

stoic island
rancid schooner
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It just a rough idea

stoic island
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2000 usd, you can get a better GPU than 2070 lol

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Or what currency?

forest briar
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He already has the 2070

rancid schooner
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Aud

stoic island
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Yes, I mean you can literally afford to buy a whole new better GPU, lemme see what I can do

forest briar
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You can get a banging computer for 2000aud

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Paid $2700usd for my rig and it's exceeded ym expectations tenfold

rancid schooner
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Nice

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I dont want it to be too expensive but as long i a have deacent computer with that buget ik it will we great

forest briar
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Well your budget will get you 100x better than decent

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12700k/f, 32gb ram

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probably a 3080

rancid schooner
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Yea the 2070 i got from someone else becuase they didnt need it i can always upgrade when i need to

potent portal
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GPU prices in Australia are still not great but getting better

stoic island
rancid schooner
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Yea ill use that i am just gathering ideas atm

stoic island
#

If 2000aud is budget, you can do a bit better on a bit of everything

#

Could do 12700 and a better mobo

#

Could grab a cooler, stock cooler is usable but can be loud

rancid schooner
#

Ill have a think about it. Just for now gathering ideas and advice

#

Thanks as well for the ideas

stoic island
#

You're welcome

cyan ravine
little osprey
#

is there anywhere I can go cheaper on this

south cliff
#

Am I allowed to talk about something else than pc parts here

#

Like a be headset

#

Vr

little osprey
mossy venture
#

Aside from that, not really

#

Unless you want to go down to the 550w asus tuf, it'll be fine with the 1080

little osprey
#

Bet

#

Ill probably go for 3060ti or whatever nvidia has in store for budget gamers next gen

#

I like how the gpu i want is the same price as the rest of my parts combined

#

😔

mossy venture
#

I wouldnt bother getting a psu yet though

potent portal
#

4060 won't come 'til February probably

little osprey
#

realistically, yeah

mossy venture
#

^

little osprey
#

so ill just cave in now

#

or soon, for that matter

mossy venture
#

And its supposed to perform around 3080 level, but nothings guaranteed of course

little osprey
#

I can probably cope with the 1650 for a bit but ill most likely pick up something 30 series to hold me off until i can get my hands on a 40 series

mossy venture
#

6600 $260 looking smexy

little osprey
#

Ikr, or 6650xt instead of the 3060

mossy venture
#

I mean

#

If its a temp card, not worth the extra $130

little osprey
#

True

#

I think any 8gb card would be fine ngl

#

So the total would be $733 before tax with a 6600. not bad

potent portal
#

That's more than just the 6600 in that cost right

little osprey
#

Yes. Lol

#

I have a 512gb m.2 ssd already so i'll pass on more storage

#

Its NVMe at the very least

potent portal
#

You could call it that

desert gulch
#

Probably more of an nvme than the qlc P2... Lol

obsidian wigeon
#

that ssd is an odd one

mossy venture
#

Same?

#

Either works

little osprey
#

Idk. It does what I need it to do

mossy venture
#

Yeah lol, I find my low end sata ssd fine

little osprey
#

Things like my case, gpu, and motherboard don’t do what i need them to do which is to meet my standards… lol

mossy venture
#

Honestly I'd spend the bit extra for the mag mortar

#

It's a good bit better of a mobo

little osprey
#

i was looking at it but it may not be on sale when i buy

#

So i just popped the asus back in

mossy venture
#

Could say the same about the asus one

little osprey
#

Eh the asus one usually hovers at the price tho, afaik

mossy venture
#

130

little osprey
#

We will see, the mortar has been at this price for about a month so far last i checked

mossy venture
#

$130? A few days at the most

little osprey
#

Really? The price graphs i saw on pcpp must be incorrect then

#

Or maybe I am remembering wrong… Most likely that

kindred pawn
#

anyone here know if the 3060 can fit in a phanteks p300

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

kindred pawn
#

oh cool

#

thanks

kindred pawn
obsidian wigeon
#

well the p300 can fit most gpus just fine

kindred pawn
obsidian wigeon
#

330mm is a lot of gpu length

#

it can fit even 3 fan cards

kindred pawn
#

and it says it can fit 330mm?

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

fleet heron
obsidian wigeon
#

even a 3090 strix is only 318mm

#

just to say how big it is

fleet heron
#

Daym

#

That's a big boi

kindred pawn
#

oh well this ones i think 299mm

#

so we chilling

#

@obsidian wigeon so then should i get the p300a for better cooling?

#

i wanna make sure my pc doesn't overheat

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

#

p300a is better

#

cause of mesh front

kindred pawn
#

i meant upgrading sorry

forest briar
#

I have the p500a and been EXTREMELY satisfied with it

mossy venture
#

I believe they're very similarly priced

obsidian wigeon
#

oh

kindred pawn
obsidian wigeon
#

already got the case

calm roost
#

White P360 is $70 after rebate

obsidian wigeon
#

well i would do p360a instead

#

it comes with fans too

#

p300a has none

kindred pawn
#

in theory we could get the p360a rn

#

but i'd be broke af for the next 2 weeks

obsidian wigeon
#

can you return the p300?

#

if it's just bought

kindred pawn
#

bought it november 2021

obsidian wigeon
#

oh

#

then nvm

#

make do with it lol

#

it won't be that bad

mossy venture
#

It's a fine case, just not good to buy new atm when p360a is essentially the same price.

kindred pawn
#

yep

obsidian wigeon
#

add some fans and it's better

mossy venture
#

P12s pog

obsidian wigeon
#

like arctic p12

#

ye

#

a 3 pack is dummy cheap

mossy venture
#

I still need to buy my p14s

#

Clc 280 new fans pog

obsidian wigeon
#

i wanna just drill a hole into my laptop's bottom chassis

#

trash cooling be like

kindred pawn
#

do i specifically need 3 fans

obsidian wigeon
#

no

kindred pawn
#

or could i get away with 1

obsidian wigeon
#

just saying that 3 pack is worth getting

#

1 fan will do okay, but more is good

mossy venture
#

I would get the 3

obsidian wigeon
#

^

mossy venture
#

Means one exhaust at the back, two intakes at the front. Or one intake at the front, exhaust at back and the top

kindred pawn
#

idek where i can find a 3 pack

mossy venture
#

Amazon

#

It's like $15 I think?

obsidian wigeon
#

just search arctic p12 and choose the 3 pack

mossy venture
#

It's $25 for a 5 pack

obsidian wigeon
#

on amazon

kindred pawn
#

its $49.99 for a 3 pack

mossy venture
#

Are you in the us?

kindred pawn
#

no

mossy venture
#

Ah

#

That changes things

#

Where do you live?

kindred pawn
#

canadia

#

free health care land

mossy venture
#

Alr one second

#

I'm jealous

kindred pawn
#

why lol

fossil cedar
kindred pawn
#

thats what i was thinking

#

just gotta be sure

mossy venture
#

Otherwise maybe just get two single fans

#

Or three

potent portal
#

Land of the free and home of the undismissible medical debt

mossy venture
#

Also home of other political things

#

That i can't specify in this server

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

mossy venture
potent portal
mossy venture
#

Ah, sucks just the two

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

How many 140s can the p360a support?

fossil cedar
#

2 afaik

potent portal
mossy venture
#

Would it be worth getting a 5 pack for it?

#

Well that answers that

#

Stock fans and a p12 from my current case it is

#

And the two p14s for the clc

fossil cedar
mossy venture
#

Wait fal are you gun and cheeseburgerian?

potent portal
mossy venture
#

Cool, thank you

#

I'll prolly just get the two then, and use the two stock and one p12

kindred pawn
#

free shipping too

mossy venture
#

Only can support two

kindred pawn
#

the p300a?

#

oh then i'll just buy 2

potent portal
mossy venture
#

East coast here

potent portal
#

3 actually, one top I missed

mossy venture
#

Wowww fal, can't believe you

potent portal
fossil cedar
#

Doesn't p360a have 2 fan slots on top that looks like p300a

kindred pawn
#

where does the 3rd fan go

#

i only see 2 available

mossy venture
#

I have p360a

fossil cedar
#

Ahh

mossy venture
potent portal
kindred pawn
mossy venture
#

Always good to have that back exhaust

kindred pawn
#

imma just buy 3 and not the 5 pack

obsidian wigeon
#

wait what

mossy venture
#

Kk, if you're not getting a 3 pack I'd do 1 p14 and 2 p12s

obsidian wigeon
#

ddr5 sodimm has 24 gigs capacity?

mossy venture
#

Gross

#

Or vice versa

obsidian wigeon
#

why does 24 gigs stick even exist

#

i don't understand

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

fossil cedar
#

Not joking

obsidian wigeon
#

jesus

#

samsung is nuts

kindred pawn
#

samsung gang

kindred pawn
icy crater
#

Woahh DDR5? Back in my day it didn't even exist yet. 🧓

#

I need help y'all. How idk how to buy a suitable surge protector for my pc.

#

It's been acting wonky after a short power outage like sometimes it doesn't turn on.

#

How do I find out how much power an outlet can give me? Cause I'm afraid I might take too much power from one outlet in the surge protector and it might be bad.

#

Also I have no idea what is joules vs watt vs amps.

#

But I found out on a website that my computer needs up to 600 watts of power.

#

And someone told me it might be 5 amps or something.

icy crater
#

Just bought this one hopefully it is good. 😭

olive cypress
#

This is a Fujitsu Siemens Celsius r630, not much special, old 2008? Server
Ma dad wanted to sell it and he asked me to. I saw these are selling for over 5k on eBay, what's special with those? It's just a crappy old server, 2 xeon CPU mono core...
What would be a good price that someone could be interested in? Now I'll tell which components it has

IMG_20220219_172623.jpg
#

2× xeon 1core 3.6GHz,
Its dual core motherboard with 8 ram slots
4gb ram ddr2 333mhz (4*512mb and 2×1gb)
3×60gb HDDs
Disk/ dvd/ floppy reader
Gt 710 or 730, don't remember exactly
Some more peripherals like PCI cards

#
  • 700w PSU
    +Big fat fans
olive cypress
#

Maybe 500/600?

#

Nobody selling it for that cheap, only found 1600€ or more (up to 6000)

vague oracle
#

The bends on the most recent #build-pics are making me sad

frank stirrup
vague oracle
#

Criticisms are how someone can improve, and there’s no rule against criticisms in build pics

elfin flame
potent portal
#

Well they are made to move a lot of air in a relatively high heat environment

pale dust
#

guys channel is just

#

Alex

rich void
#

That guy seems to just do a little of everything

#

iirc he did a episode or two where he made craft beer and there were some issues with it imo

rich void
#

If his other work is like the craft beer episode I think he gets some technical stuff wrong as well

little osprey
heavy atlas
#

is that a good build?

mossy venture
#

Depends if the parts are bought already or not

#

But if not bought yet, it's kinda crap

heavy atlas
#

i alr got the cpu motherboard and ram

mossy venture
#

rip

#

can you return any of it?

heavy atlas
#

idk

mossy venture
#

i mean ram is fine, as long as it was under $80

#

well, more like under 65

heavy atlas
#

wb the motherboards

mossy venture
#

mobo is alright, but 12th gen is better price/perf than amd at the moment

#

12400f has same perf and is $170

#

whats the budget for the rest of the build, not including cpu mobo and ram

heavy atlas
#

prolly like 500

mossy venture
#

does that include the gpu?

heavy atlas
#

not including the gpu

mossy venture
#

what gpu do you plan to run

heavy atlas
#

idk yet

#

this will b my first build

#

so i need help with it

mossy venture
#

well, whats the budget for the gpu then

heavy atlas
#

500

#

-600

mossy venture
#

ok, so 1100 for the rest of the build total?

#

not including cpu, mobo and ram?

heavy atlas
#

mhm

#

i might switch the cpu

mossy venture
#

i would recommend getting different ram

heavy atlas
#

y

desert gulch
#

It's discontinued so quote hard to find and spendy

mossy venture
#

because 32gb is good to have for that budget

#

and by good i mean kinda necessary

heavy atlas
#

can you put a build together for me that with the same mother board but rest different

mossy venture
heavy atlas
#

1000

mossy venture
#

not including gpu?

heavy atlas
#

including

mossy venture
#

oh wait, i never asked this: do you live in the US?

mossy venture
#

you said it was 1100 excluding mobo, cpu and ram

#

now including them it went down?

#

wat

heavy atlas
#

1 sec

#

so just make a new build including the mobo and put different ram and cpu the total price will be 1300

mossy venture
#

ok

#

if you need to spend less, you can switch the psu for the asus tuf 650, and go for a 3070/6750xt

heavy atlas
#

so will it run good??😹

forest briar
#

THat's a very solid pc for the price, yes

heavy atlas
#

okk

#

thanks

mossy venture
#

if going intel, could do a bit better with 12400f but yes

#

but since you said keep mobo i left it in

heavy atlas
#

can i go for a higher cpu?

mossy venture
#

5700x, if you want to

#

but youll want a better cooler

#

which would be ak620 or clc 280

woeful fossil
#

Prime z690-p memory suggestion?

mossy venture
woeful fossil
#

DDR 5. Seems to be limited that are compatible

potent portal
elder sand
#

Question, could I use my laptop's m.2 ssd with the os and drivers as my ssd in my brand new pc?

potent portal
#

Technically yes but it's best to install fresh. It will also deactivate the license unless you're not planning on using the laptop again.

thorny sparrow
#

Hopefully someone can help me. So i did a new build. turned it on. its on and all but i cant get anything to show on the screen?

steep fern
#

Anyone ever run into a issue where you start your pc, it boots to windows, freezes then restarts?

earnest olive
#

did you plug monitor cable into the integrated graphics port by accident?

thorny sparrow
earnest olive
#

ah

#

well good thing you figured it out

thorny sparrow
#

cpu*

woeful fossil
obsidian wigeon
#

that's just dead kit

smoky linden
#

any pc builds for $10 - $25?

obsidian wigeon
#

are you joking?

olive cypress
#

Lol

formal girder
obsidian wigeon
#

you can get a pc someone left in the trash

frank stirrup
smoky linden
obsidian wigeon
#

im not

smoky linden
smoky linden
frank stirrup
frank stirrup
smoky linden
frank stirrup
#

get good

#

troll better

smoky linden
frank stirrup
#

I care enough to not waste money on 41 steam games if we were short on food

#

Cant say the same about u

smoky linden
smoky linden
frank stirrup
#

Sucks to be you ig

#

destiny 2 is also a lot more fun than being a troll

#

takes some skill too

formal girder
#

fatkek oh Lord what have I slid back into

obsidian wigeon
#

trolling has failed

vague oracle
#

What did I just witness?

formal girder
#

idiot imagine trolling

vague oracle
#

I found him a pc kekw

obsidian wigeon
little osprey
obsidian wigeon
#

pop air mini is all i can think of

little osprey
#

Honestly that might just work, thank you

#

I specifically wanted to get a really small space, its basically exactly perfectly mATX sized

#

Also, I know this may sound like a stupid question,

obsidian wigeon
#

you can ask

little osprey
#

But this is my second time having a case, taking the side panel off, and it literally just, shattering, is there any preventative measures I can take or something I'm doing wrong cause 💀 💀

obsidian wigeon
#

oof

#

well

#

try to not put too much pressure on it

#

i never had the glass side panel break on my case

flint sapphire
#

I’ve seen someone tap a tempered side panel only to have it shatter instantly kekw

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

flint sapphire
#

It can happen and it sucks sadge

little osprey
obsidian wigeon
#

yeeah

#

it's why warranty exists thank god

formal girder
little osprey
formal girder
#

Cleaning isn't hard

mossy venture
#

I leave my side panel permanently off

formal girder
#

Delete case boom best airflow

mossy venture
#

Prolly gonna have my side panel on when I switch to the p360a though

icy crater
#

How do I know what type of ethernet cable I should get?

#

Does it depend on the modem and my motherboard?

earnest olive
#

if you have gigabit or less you're good with cat 6

frank stirrup
little osprey
#

true, scratches easier though and is kinda hard to come buy the higher you go in price

earnest olive
#

side panel off, electric duster once a week gang

rich void
#

I use a datavac every few months

#

I take off the sides, front, and the filters.

desert gulch
#

I use max out the fans on my 5700xt once a week, it stirs everything up, basically a duster

rich void
#

That just pushes dust into the air for you to breathe though

desert gulch
#

You breathe dust anyways, whatever

frank stirrup
#

not superior nose breather gang

desert gulch
#

im both thoi ngl

frank stirrup
#

dam bro

sand falcon
#

I'm an eye breather

frank stirrup
#

damn bro

sand falcon
#

#builtDifferent

vague oracle
#

Damn eye breathers, should’ve been ear breathing

sand falcon
#

That usually means that there's something wrong with your eardrum

rich void
frank stirrup
#

ill let myself out

earnest olive
#

I'm an nzxt breather

#

I don't breathe

still bay
#

anyone got like a relatively cheap 600-900$ pc build? this is for my beach house, my current pc that im using here rn cant even run cs. for games, ideally id be able to run most games? the monitor is 1600x900 however might be upgrading to 1080p. i mainly just play like csgo and then other stupid games but yeah. looks dont matter at all ill be disable any and all rgb as i dont like how it looks.

#

the only setback is im in canada

#

so parts would have to be able to be ordered in canada

#

for reference thats roughly 1-1.1k CAD

#

budget can be extended i just see no value is spending a ton when the computer will see no use for most of the year and will be used to run basic stuff

mossy venture
still bay
#

yes thats what i meant

#

i could always go down to like walmart and buy some prebuilt or get one ordered but i enjoy building so id rather do that

mossy venture
#

Could wait for some else's list as well, like pato

#

I'm not super familiar with Canada market so there might be a bit better

still bay
#

apologies since u already made it but is there any chance the case could be smaller

mossy venture
#

Risen is also big brain

frank stirrup
#

Leave the pato alone hes on vacation this week

mossy venture
#

Could give his opinion

#

Oh ok

#

Yeah can switch the case

#

One sec

frank stirrup
#

Leave the risen alone hes a little brain dead at the moment

still bay
#

thanks man

mossy venture
#

Is the mb311l small enough?

still bay
#

it doesnt actually have to be tiny, i just dont want a massive case

mossy venture
#

Ah

still bay
#

it would stick out

#

and just look bad haha

mossy venture
#

So the mb311l is too big?

still bay
#

ah no i wasnt talking about the mb311l

mossy venture
#

The mx330 is thin, I think its fairly short in length too

still bay
#

im not familiar with that

frank stirrup
#

Dimensions wise the mb311 isnt small. Its pretty large for an matx case, pretty much atx mid tower sizes

mossy venture
#

Ah

still bay
#

i havent looked at anything involving computers in the last like 6 months

#

all i care about is keyboards

#

and even that ive kind of grown disenchanted with

mossy venture
#

Can you check if the mx330 would fit? Otherwise I'm not sure what case to use

#

P200a too expensive

frank stirrup
#

They leave quite a bit of space at the top and the psu shroud is big as well

still bay
#

sorry let me clear that up

#

its not an issue of fitting

frank stirrup
#

Although top side space makes cpu power connectors a breeze

still bay
#

i just dont want a massive case haha

#

like at home i have a 4000d and i think that would look bad

#

yk what maybe im overreacting itll be fine

mossy venture
#

@frank stirrup how's the evga gm?

#

That's a mid one right? Low b

#

Iirc

#

Also I have to go in three minutes

#

On my break

frank stirrup
#

Dont remember off the top of my head

#

Lemme check

mossy venture
#

Eh, it'll be fine with a 6600

#

Issue is no good mitx mobos for a 12400

frank stirrup
#

B tier

#

Plenty good enough

mossy venture
#

Unless asus prime h610 is fine enough

frank stirrup
#

Ill take a look in a few

#

Slap on whatever rn

#

Ill improve it

mossy venture
#

Kk

#

As rawr said, wait for his version

#

I can't take a look around for a better priced psu or mobo atm, hell see what he can do

olive cypress
#

Maybe a 12th gen pc could get expensive for the motherboard

#

(PSU can be change too)

#

Should be ≤800$ if you get the best deals

strong raft
#

B660 is often under $170 now.

frank stirrup
#

Also he needs a list in canada

#

Not the us

olive cypress
strong raft
#

Well that should, AM4 is pretty old .So, only $20ish more for a "decent" mobo apparently. Good to see at least. (Risen this is CAD before you mention it). FedoraTip

Screenshot_20220703-141141_Firefox.jpg
steep fern
#

Hopfully someone here can help me, upgraded my mobo and cpu to a 11900k and a asus Maximus hero xiii, formatted all drives and fresh install of windows, issue I keep running into is once my pc boots and gets to my desktop, 10 or so seconds go by and it freezes then black screens and restarts. Anyone have any ideas?

frank stirrup
cyan ravine
earnest olive
#

see if you find a BugCheck code or WHEA uncorrectable

olive cypress
earnest olive
#

is the rest of the system known good?

frank stirrup
cyan ravine
#

I know

earnest olive
#

dont think 10400f is a bottleneck with a 6600

cyan ravine
#

I tried too many times with 12400 and couldn't do it lol

earnest olive
#

but how's the price of 12100f in comparison?

cyan ravine
#

I think 12100f makes it yes

earnest olive
#

12100 is significantly better than 10400 in like, every game

steep fern
#

@earnest olive I'll try that now

cyan ravine
#

One sec

#

Yea it does

#

Meh board but it's 12100f so

frank stirrup
#

You hav skill issue

earnest olive
#

huh

#

i opened pcpp and i have a PM from someone asking to commission a build from me

frank stirrup
#

Sorry bout that im actually a big fan

earnest olive
#

is the a-gf too long?

frank stirrup
#

Should be ok

cyan ravine
olive cypress
#

No

frank stirrup
#

Either way

cyan ravine
#

The evga gm is still 82 innit

olive cypress
cyan ravine
#

So doesn't really matter

#

I was skill'd

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

seems like you need to 3d print a bracket for ATX

frank stirrup
#

Still within budget

cyan ravine
#

Kind of amazing that it's this close to a mid tower budget

#

Considering itx

olive cypress
#

Those prices aren't the ones you usually find

#

I'd never pay 400 for a 6600

earnest olive
#

at 1082 i'd go for a cheap air cooler even if it ends up going a few bucks over 1100

olive cypress
#

Those sell for 250

cyan ravine
#

Nah canada just weird man

earnest olive
#

intel stock cooler gets loud on a 12400

earnest olive
frank stirrup
olive cypress
#

Ooh
Canada?
💀

earnest olive
#

400 cad is 310 usd

cyan ravine
#

Well we know who's gonna win that battle now

#

Lmfao

earnest olive
#

well im sitting at my gaming chair and not contributing much

frank stirrup
#

Lol n00b

cyan ravine
#

Toilet >>>> gaming chair

frank stirrup
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Yes

earnest olive
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real gamers combine both

frank stirrup
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I want rgb gaming toilet

earnest olive
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my ex actually got me an rgb thing for toilets lol

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battery powered and has a motion sensor so when you walk in front of it it lights up the toilet

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why? i don't know

olive cypress
cyan ravine
frank stirrup
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Bro screw call of duty me and the boys aiming for the center of the bowl instead 💀

cyan ravine
steep fern
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@earnest olive can I look at the event viewer via safe mode?