you used the pc part picker for the US so we assumed you where in the US
#building-and-recc-chat
fossil cedar
quartz kayak
Poland
fossil cedar
ohhh well ill remake a list for poland
quartz kayak
unfortunately not supported
quartz kayak
quartz kayak
seems like it
fossil cedar
seems like it
whats the budget?
winter marsh
not ready for a new vga and monitor just yet
quartz kayak
about 4000 PLN
most important question is, will the LGA 1700 socket get any new CPUs or will i have to rely on 12th gen for an upgrade
stoic island
13th gen should be on lga1700, don't remember if confirmed or not
potent portal
13th gen is confirmed same socket, 14th is unknown
desert gulch
14th is rumored on a diff one sadly
winter marsh
A new Star Wars movie out soon?
olive cypress
13th gen is confirmed same socket, 14th is unknown
Wow, surprised that Intel keeps the same socket instead of changing it always as they usually do
potent portal
They usually change every two years
desert gulch
there were orignally rumors that intel would have 3 gens on the same socket (12th,13th,14th) but it seems those are false
potent portal
All AMD has to do is finally commit to a life cycle for AM5 that's at least 4 years and they've got next gen in the bag
ripe spear
The only Gen Intel only did once really was 1st and 4th
meager palm
Hi everyone I have a problem with my m.2
I can see the m2 in bios but not in disk management and in easeus it’s labelled as lost partition
winter marsh
The Ryzen 7000 series is why I didn't bother to build a Z690 mobo
That and the current prices of DDR5
ripe spear
7000 series will be the end of APU's
AMD has shown that 7000 series will have RDNA2 GPU's in their CPU's
which that was like the point of APU's before was to have a good enough GPU
But if you have a iGPU in your CPU that could perform like a RX 5300 as an example then you'd be able to play games with that CPU alone
potent portal
7000 series will be the end of APU's
Probably not true. They'll only have 2 rdna2 cores so they're mainly competing with Intel igpu, and there will likely be some with fewer cores and stronger GPU.
winter marsh
Motherboards on the other hand are B for entry level, X, and E for high end
ripe spear
Probably not true. They'll only have 2 rdna2 cores so they're mainly competing w...
Well we will just have to see on when it is released because we all know people are going to benchmark with just the CPU alone
ripe spear
Motherboards on the other hand are B for entry level, X, and E for high end
You forgot H
For Intel it is a little confusing to someone new because you have 2 H's, B, Q and Z
ripe spear
True but I have no interest other than the Asus X670 TUF, plus I hate auto-spell
Prime looks nicer than the TUF
south cliff
Prime looks nicer than the TUF
i like it better than tuff to
ripe spear
It also has RGB on it lol
south cliff
rbg give way better performance
ripe spear
I would try out Ryzen again but with a B series board and with a Ryzen 3
winter marsh
I will be a very sad day for that mobo
ripe spear
If i am able to play Kingdom Hearts alone with a Ryzen 3 7000 series that would be nice
Oh ya and the Prime board would be perfect for white builds
winter marsh
I'm gonna stuff it in my Zalman case unless it needs a AIO
And for that I'll recycle my two week old 240mm Arctic Freezer 2 I am using on my 5800X3D
Btw I'm heard nothing about the PSU's the mobo.s and vga's require yet?
Even the Asus boards post look like they run off two 8 pin connectors for the cpu
fossil cedar
seems like it
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LwbvZw id do this for your case
earnest olive
Even the Asus boards post look like they run off two 8 pin connectors for the cp...
you only need to populate 1
unless you're doing extreme subambient overclocking
you will thermal throttle with a 2x360 custom loop before you can actually overdraw an 8-pin EPS on alder lake
cursive wharf
you will thermal throttle with a 2x360 custom loop before you can actually overd...
Pretty sure you need a chiller to overdraw an EPS cable
But I dont remember the actual recommended max anymore sadly
winter marsh
I am assuming the new mobo's will still need a 24 pin main power cable as well.
earnest olive
Pretty sure you need a chiller to overdraw an EPS cable
yeah thats what i was saying
it's 334W iirc for 8-pin EPS
plus however much the socket can deliver
meanwhile 420mm aios struggle to hold down 12900K @ 240W
tough jungle
It depends
Terminals and wire gauge mainly influence it
EPS can go as high as 480w
earnest olive
😳
tough jungle
On 12v, anyways
earnest olive
what's the spec number?
like how pcie 8-pin spec is 150W but most cables can do way more
cursive wharf
Isnt spec 300w for EPS?
earnest olive
i remember 334W being the spec but i'm not 100% sure about it
tough jungle
Regardless, a mainstream CPU will do fine on a single connector
Dual only makes sense if you're going towards either HEDT or sub-ambient cooling
earnest olive
yeah, subambient required to even have to worry about it
it's an lga1700 board so it can be assumed hedt won't be in the equation
tough jungle
I consider lga1700 as mainstream
Then again, a lot of PSUs come with it these days
Never hurts, but it doesn't benefit much either
strong raft
Big sad that gpus didn't use EPS. This is the only reason atx3/pcei5 is a bigger deal than otherwise
devout relic
Looking to start my first build on a budget. Where should I start? I’ve read some things and watched some YT videos, but would like some real time input. I’m not extremely savvy when it comes to this stuff, but I’d like to give it a go. 😋
boreal notch
Hey I'm looking to buy a rtx 3080 ti anybody have a good place to buy online rn?
potent portal
Looking to start my first build on a budget. Where should I start? I’ve read som...
What kind of a budget? $800-1000 is a good entry level build, and more is better of course
potent portal
Hey I'm looking to buy a rtx 3080 ti anybody have a good place to buy online rn?
If you really need a 3080 ti this one is $1050 right now https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-gv-n308tgaming-oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932436
But personally I'd recommend a 6900 XT, which is more equivalent to a 3090 and cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gKnypg/msi-radeon-rx-6900-xt-16-gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-rx-6900-xt-gaming-x-trio-16g
boreal notch
If you really need a 3080 ti this one is $1050 right now https://www.newegg.com/...
I thought rx cards were worse than rtx
potent portal
Who said that? They're pretty competitive right now. RTX just has a couple extra features and RX has the same performance for cheaper
potent portal
If you mean ray tracing it can do that, just not quite as well.
Most games don't do RT very well right now anyway.
strong raft
RTX hype sure is moderate.
potent portal
What games do you want to play that use ray tracing? Because really it sucks in most games because they only do shadows or single sources of light
And it's not worth the 30% reduction in performance when using a 3090
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/jonzmuda/saved/#view=DjpFZL Guys how’s the list looking? Any changes?
I can’t change the cpu, or ssd
desert gulch
in terms of value, i think theres def some things that could be changed
oh your bought those already?
little osprey
Yeah but just those two items
desert gulch
EVGA CLC 280 for 60/AK620 for 65/maybe some other cooler on rare occasion
2x8 3200c16 SP for 50
maybe throw in a 4TB WD Blue for 60 if needed
Pulse 6600 for 300/Speedster 6600XT for 360/Speedster 6700XT for 480/Sonnet 6800XT for 700/Ventus 3080 12GB for 800
MX330-G for 52/MB311L for 75/NX260 for 78/Lancool 205 Mesh for 86/P360A for 90/Lancool 215 for 100/TD500 Mesh for 100
650 GA for 60/650 GT for 65/750 GT for 80/750 G6 for 90/850 G6 for 105
those are all kinda the basic good value stuff in usa market
where would you plan on getting the gpu? those FE are fairly elusive tbh
little osprey
I am gonna wait till next Christmas and by then the 4000 series will be out and I’m sure there will be some available. If not, there’s always the 6600xt
desert gulch
i wouldnt wait
little osprey
I’m broke rn I just spent money on a new cpu
desert gulch
waiting while you have 2 spendy components you have no way of testing is not a great idea. Having a dead part you didnt know about is kinda risky
i mean, by xmas, new cpus should be out aswell
little osprey
i mean, by xmas, new cpus should be out aswell
Ik but I’m not going for a super crazy Pc I’m just going for one that lets me run games consistently at 100+ fps and able to render certain things
desert gulch
are you not able to return those parts?
little osprey
Nah I got them a bit ago but I got advice from orange mushroom to get it and isn’t he super good with computers
He said in my situation a 5900 is good
Because I wasn’t looking to upgrade my mobo
desert gulch
yeah hes good, but with no way to test them, kinda iffy
oh you already have a board, you didnt mention that
little osprey
Sorry forgot to mention that
little osprey
Not currently I still have to set it up but Pc part picker says it’s compatible
I just got it around a week ago and I need my brothers help setting it up
desert gulch
aight
boreal notch
What games do you want to play that use ray tracing? Because really it sucks in ...
well I'm getting it mainly for vr
devout relic
What kind of a budget? $800-1000 is a good entry level build, and more is better...
I was thinking between $800-900 if possible.
ocean oxide
is this a big upgrade from a gtx970?
wait the website doesnt really have a buy button, where would that be
spring belfry
can someone take a look at my build?
I can send a link to it, i want ddr5 and aircooling. Trying to futureproof it.
desert gulch
Ddr5 really doesn't future proof currently, esp with the extra you spend just to get equal performance to current ddr4
Also, if looking for overclocking the CPU, which I'm assuming you are, any half serious overclocking is not going to be happy on a air cooler, even a top of the line one
potent portal
well I'm getting it mainly for vr
Then a 6900 XT is more than plenty
boreal notch
alright thanks for the help
potent portal
wait the website doesnt really have a buy button, where would that be
If the buy button is missing it's out of stock
ocean oxide
ah thats a rip
mossy venture
I can send a link to it, i want ddr5 and aircooling. Trying to futureproof it.
That psu is pointless
ocean oxide
thanks tho
mossy venture
Get a 1000w g6
analog pulsar
Why
potent portal
It's meant to be 2 banks per dimm but 8gb is only one so you're losing half the performance
potent portal
2x16gb is good
analog pulsar
Okay
little osprey
Hey is someone able to help me? My pc just I think killed itself
south cliff
Hey is someone able to help me? My pc just I think killed itself
sure i can help
little osprey
just got it, 2 of my 3 hard drives are dead
for some reason
I mean they were old but my pc got stuck on the boot screen even though both had nothing to do with booting
mossy venture
I mean they were old but my pc got stuck on the boot screen even though both had...
I've had that happen before
Took an hdd out of my old pc and plugged it into my new one, wouldn't boot after a week
Took it out and it worked
tough jungle
Big sad that gpus didn't use EPS. This is the only reason atx3/pcei5 is a bigger...
They do, just not on consumer 😄
meager dew
trying to help my friend get a reasonable desktop or laptop for gaming in the $700 range
potent portal
What kind of games?
mossy venture
trying to help my friend get a reasonable desktop or laptop for gaming in the $7...
can they build it themselves?
meager dew
nope
no expertise
but i was wondering if somebody could help find a system that price thats better than a gtx 1650/i5-10500
i doubt it but i was able to find builds like that for $700
mossy venture
i cant find the build pato linked a few days ago
could also do this https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619965321&urlLangId=&quantity=1 and put in this kit of ram https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&catEntryId=3074457345619965321&urlLangId=&quantity=1 and more storage
desert gulch
could also do this https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/ConfigureView?langId=-1&storeId...
same links?
mossy venture
could probs grab quicker mem
unfortunately hp builds dont allow ram oc
so 3200 c22 best you can do
desert gulch
old intel XTU does
mossy venture
does it?
desert gulch
mossy venture
desert gulch
its $2 anyways so even if they cant get it to work, whatever
you may have to go uninstall every bit of xtu if it comes preinstalled tho
and then grab a old version and xmp it
ripe spear
Any good work laptop 500 usd budget
glossy gull
ripe spear
Well the link works just think your phone can't detect it lol
fossil cedar
Works for me too
autumn wolf
my iphone 8 is able to open it 
frigid night
Works for me too
Can confirm
fossil cedar
Can confirm
frigid night
https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582
Autocorrect ok? Lol
fossil cedar
frigid night
Why it corrected to that idk lol because I never ever use that word. Or them for that matter hahaha
strong raft
Pro tip: disable auto correct
frigid night
No I like it most of the time.
Just some words it thinks it knows better than what I want.
ripe spear
You don't know what you want thought that is why auto correct does it for you lol
winter marsh
Hmm new parts just means more work right?
fossil cedar
Huh?
winter marsh
In most scenarios you would have to power off the PC and install the new part, cases require a entire rebuild, and UI like mice, monitors, and keys require no effort at all.
I'm waiting on a new case and AIO, after that two CPU, and headsets or ddr sticks
analog hearth
In most scenarios you would have to power off the PC and install the new part, c...
mice and keyboards are called “peripherals” not “UI” devices lol
fossil cedar
mice and keyboards are called “peripherals” not “UI” devices lol
Think they meant IO
fossil cedar
In most scenarios you would have to power off the PC and install the new part, c...
Yeah but something like storage/ ram is pretty quick
For case you can leave cpu and ram in mobo and if small tower cooler/stock/aio you can leave that on the cpu too
analog hearth
ah
the annoying thing for cases is the front IO connectors
I wish there was a standard single cable on the case that plugged into the motherboard with that single connector
olive cypress
Some cases have a single connector for that
Like nzxt
I hope it becomes a standard too
analog hearth
and then sometimes you get positive and negative stuff switched around
fossil cedar
I wish there was a standard single cable on the case that plugged into the mothe...
That's the one thing nzxt is great at actually
They do that on their cases
analog hearth
at least somebody’s thinking lmao
winter marsh
The only easy install in the Lian case will be the easy AIO rack
fossil cedar
?
fossil cedar
I don't see the point tbh
analog pulsar
I don't see the point tbh
it looks like you can either have it open or closed open allowes a thiccer rad while close gets cool air to mobo idk
but also it seems thiccer rad will still get more direct cooling to mobo bc it will make that 110mm go down
winter marsh
Correct
The Liquid Freezer II – 240 has an aluminum radiator measuring 277 x 120 x 38mm. The thickness of the radiator is 38mm. The overall thickness would be 64mm after installing the fans
fossil cedar
Yeah but i don't see why not just only have the large one
winter marsh
The 240mm Arctic is merely referenced for measurements, a 360mm Arctic will be installed.
Right now the Arctic 240mm resides top mounted in a Cougar MX410 RGB case that has no air flow
It's not a mesh front and Cougar Support hasn't responded to sell me the Mesh front panel, which leaded me here to debates for a high air flow mesh front replacement case.
Front mounted AIO space became the priority and I settled on Lian after my Antec choices where rejected 🙂
I started with Antec but built in Cooler Master, NZXT, Cougar, Fractal Design, Raidmax, DYPC, MSI, and Sama PC cases.
The MSI case is great for the kids MSI themed build
Anyway back to bed unless something is delivered or something comes up in chat
jagged ember
what is this, #build-pics ?
winter marsh
Not really, I was being grateful with “Build Chat” helping me select the Lian case, and compared it to the previous MSI case I purchased to build a kid’s MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi mobo
fossil cedar
Not really, I was being grateful with “Build Chat” helping me select the Lian ca...
They where talking about the other guy lol
@quasi sun just to let you know your about me is against the server rules so if you don't want to change it you're gonna get a kick if not a ban :)
south cliff
do i have to do anything when i get my new gpu?
obsidian wigeon
what gpu?
quasi sun
<@173574849610907648> just to let you know your about me is against the server r...
Sorry, I just woke up
obsidian wigeon
if radeon, i wouldn't worry about the drivers
quasi sun
I spend thousands on newegg plz no ban
obsidian wigeon
but just to be safe, run ddu before you put new gpu in
fossil cedar
do i have to do anything when i get my new gpu?
Ddu old gpu drivers, install new drivers
south cliff
ok
obsidian wigeon
ye
fossil cedar
I spend thousands on newegg plz no ban
All you gotta do is change about me, your link promoting your store is against the rules
winter marsh
I know but my message was for that chap displaying promo pics
quasi sun
All you gotta do is change about me, your link promoting your store is against t...
Oh, I just have this for all servers first time I ran into it my bad
fossil cedar
No harm just just letting you know if you don't change I'll have to :/
It didn't seem on purpose :)
winter marsh
I literally slaps the kids computers together with recycled parts, Z97, 970A, and FX990 motherboards
So next topic is selecting a good video card for Ryzen 3600XT/5600X CPU’s on B450 motherboards
quasi sun
No harm just just letting you know if you don't change I'll have to :/
Am I allowed to just leave the link in my bio?
winter marsh
I originally thought about using used RTX 2080 Supers
But price to performance favors the RTX 3070
mossy venture
But price to performance favors the RTX 3070
depends on what price you can find both cards at
but yeah 2080s tends to go for more for some reason
winter marsh
I noticed that, plus I don’t want to purchase a possible burned mining card
mossy venture
mining cards are in better condition than gaming cards most of the time
ive mined on my 3060 ti for over a year and its perfectly fine
mining does not damage cards if youre not stupid
winter marsh
I haven’t been able to research the performance of a PCIe4 card on PCIe3 mobo
mossy venture
as long as it isnt a 6400 or 6500xt, its fine
winter marsh
I’ve purchased cards that had shorts in their display ports that rendered the port inoperable
winter marsh
Just avoiding used cards at this point
To date only Asus has RMA’d outdated hardware for me
mossy venture
who wants to make me a build list
whats the budget and what country do you live in
ornate solstice
usa
ornate solstice
gaming/ streaming
fossil cedar
Am I allowed to just leave the link in my bio?
It's against the rules :/
mossy venture
kk
winter marsh
Kids are gaming naturally
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kd9GjZ one option
winter marsh
Primary source of purchase is Newegg
mossy venture
or if you can go a bit over budget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kntp3y
pato will prolly make a list too in a moment
mossy venture
It's against the rules :/
would undervolting a 5800x with pbo make it bearable on my vrms?
winter marsh
BRB
ornate solstice
ooo i like the second one thank you
fossil cedar
would undervolting a 5800x with pbo make it bearable on my vrms?
Idk what do your vrms get with your 3600?
mossy venture
oh right i forgot to run p95
fossil cedar
$1200 is price range
30$ over budget but worth
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9GJbk9
fossil cedar
You can grab the motherboard baka recommended but i would pay the 9$ for a board you could happily upgrade to basically any 13th gen cpu in and yeah can just use stock cooler which is a quick 15$ add on fix after if your temps are too much/too loud for you
fossil cedar
you just have the cheaper ram, couldnt find the kit
✨sort low to high ✨
mossy venture
✨sort low to high ✨
i always type in 32gb 3200c16 and it doesnt show up, prolly putting too much in
fossil cedar
I just use filters, 2x16, 3200, max cl 18
desert gulch
You can grab the motherboard baka recommended but i would pay the 9$ for a board...
May as well grab h670 riptide pg
It'll handle 13th too
fossil cedar
May as well grab h670 riptide pg
Nowhere near as good vrms as bazooka
fossil cedar
i thought asus prime was fine?
Prime is fine talking about riptide, but bazooka is a lot better anyway
desert gulch
Nowhere near as good vrms as bazooka
buildzoid said itd be fine
you get better chipset which is nice, you also get bios flashback which is nice
obsidian wigeon
h670?
obsidian wigeon
alright
desert gulch
h610<b660<h670<z690
obsidian wigeon
it's a bummer how b660 boards lack flashback
desert gulch
yeah
esp with risk of some msi ones coming without a compatible bios for 12400f, the most common adl cpu
fossil cedar
buildzoid said itd be fine
Fine vs very good, flashbacks nice sure chipset doesn't really matter
desert gulch
doubt youll upgrade to a k sku 13th gen i7 on a board like this
cause if you are planning on goin crazy on it, may as well grab z690 if planning on a k sku upgrade
desert gulch
except we dont know much about it other than speculation
fossil cedar
Well look at it this way, gonna be better than the a pro even if same components bazooka has better heatsink
ornate condor
Which one is decent b660 mobo 🤔
mossy venture
Which one is decent b660 mobo 🤔
mag mortar
ornate condor
160$ 
desert gulch
hdv boards are beyond aweful this gen. Even the b660 hdv throttles with a 12400(f) lmaooooo
desert gulch
ye
desert gulch
Ye pro A gets hot too but doesnt throttle
it can get over 100c and still not throttle, its crazy
fossil cedar
hdv boards are beyond aweful this gen. Even the b660 hdv throttles with a 12400(...
Did you know the h610 hdv doesn't even have an m.2 slot 💀
ripe spear
102c with 95w cpu <:KEKW:788766717379215410>
HDV boards though are more for the lower end CPU's like a 12100/12400
vague oracle
Except it still throttles a 12400f 
ornate condor
mossy venture
12900ks on h610 hdv when
ornate condor
fossil cedar
HDV boards though are more for the lower end CPU's like a 12100/12400
If you qualify enough as turning on sure
ripe spear
Did you know the h610 hdv doesn't even have an m.2 slot 💀
H610's though for the HDV's they always have 2 models one with and one without
vague oracle
BRUH my old z170 gaming K3 is better than this board
It actually had more than one PCie x16, and these things called heat sinks
desert gulch
Did you know the h610 hdv doesn't even have an m.2 slot 💀
ye
itd be a waste anyways lmfaooo
good thing they saved more ewaste from going oujt
fossil cedar
H610's though for the HDV's they always have 2 models one with and one without
I've never seen a hdv feom the last 3 gens without a m.2 slot
desert gulch
HDV boards though are more for the lower end CPU's like a 12100/12400
NOT THE 12400
12400 throttles even on the b660 hdv
65w moment
fossil cedar
itd be a waste anyways lmfaooo
M.2 ssds are cheaper than sata ssds these days at least for decent ones
desert gulch
Its basically only for people who like 2.5” sata drives and a 12100
desert gulch
M.2 ssds are cheaper than sata ssds these days at least for decent ones
doesnt matter when you throttling on ewaste
saves more m.2 slots from going to the dump
🧠
fossil cedar
doesnt matter when you throttling on ewaste
I thought you meant the m.2 not the board lol
ripe spear
2 HDV's without M.2's lol
fossil cedar
Odd
ripe spear
I almost bought the H510 model until i realized i had enough for the B560 Pro 4
Cause that H510 is like 80$ Canadian
That is with the tax
vague oracle
Wow H610 still has a VGA output lol
ripe spear
Well tbf their are still like banks and other place of business that would still use the monitors they have for work which their monitors are still VGA
You know slap in a Pentium and they're gtg
Id honestly love to use a laptop if it was to have this CPU paired with a Nvidia MX550/570 https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/226449/intel-pentium-gold-processor-8500-8m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz/specifications.html
Think how long the battery life would be with those 2 under powered chips while gaming
Nothing better than a 5 core 6 thread CPU right lol
desert gulch
Wow H610 still has a VGA output lol
You know what HDV stands for?
mossy venture
hard difficulty video
desert gulch
Actually not super super far off
wheat coral
nope
fossil cedar
<@369668313208324100> do you know what it stands for?
Horrible
Definitely horrible
Vrms
desert gulch
heh alternative meaning?
fossil cedar
Lel
desert gulch
HDMI, DVI, VGA
fossil cedar
Lol really?
desert gulch
yeah
fossil cedar
Lol
desert gulch
i mean, it makes sense when you think abuot it
fossil cedar
I mean yeah but weird
fossil cedar
I guess the vga can be handy
desert gulch
yeah
asrock calls it a d-sub which just means vga basicallly
super weird inspiriation for a naming line but now you know xD
fossil cedar
Interesting
desert gulch
asrock really should start taking away some of those ports and put that money towards proper vrms tho, maybe even heatsinks 💀
m.2 too
full atlas
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcCzZw how’s this
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcCzZw how’s this
are you making a whole new build?
full atlas
That would be a whole new build yes
mossy venture
if you can get everything for those prices, yeah its fine
full atlas
Alr thx
fossil cedar
asrock really should start taking away some of those ports and put that money to...
Indeed
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcCzZw how’s this
This models better and same price
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tWJgXL/xfx-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-video-card-rx-66xt8dfdq
full atlas
Alr
untold vessel
Everyone, I'm looking to purchase a prebuilt PC with Newegg's Build to Order Service. The Budget is $1,250, and we can go about $50 overboard if we can justify it. I did note that the Eniac Build Fee is $99, but we're willing to pay it, effectively making our true budget $1150
We're looking to build it with Intel, Use DDR4-3200MHZ RAM, have at least a 3060 in it, and can just use the free version of windows 11 with the watermark, so no OS is necessary to purchase (I know, I know).
The use case for this PC will be mainly Gaming and Video Streaming, light schoolwork and perhaps dabbling with Digital Art & Drawing.
No Peripherals will be needed, and no fancy RGB will be needed, we're looking to put 100% of the budget into pure performance, even if the resulting PC is a little ugly.
What do you guys think? What can we 'scrounge up here?
>>Ooh, also, no storage is needed. Purchased the Sk Hynix 1tb already.
restive halo
@fossil cedar Hey I have a build getting a 0d error code?
Won't post. No signal to the screen.
untold vessel
Looks beautiful
restive halo
The guy needs it back tonight. 😫
fossil cedar
Everyone, I'm looking to purchase a prebuilt PC with Newegg's Build to Order Ser...
Probably better off just getting an abs prebuilt
untold vessel
Probably better off just getting an abs prebuilt
Couldn't find any
fossil cedar
<@191276897227898880> Hey I have a build getting a 0d error code?
You're gonna have to check the manual for what that code means
restive halo
Lol it says for future codes
fossil cedar
Couldn't find any
fossil cedar
Lol it says for future codes
Huh?
mossy venture
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218?Item=N82E16883360218 specifically this one
fossil cedar
False
mossy venture
$1200 3060 ti build
untold vessel
With 3060 ti's
Reconsideration may be in order for me
fossil cedar
you clearly didnt look at any lol
mossy venture
what you could do for a custom build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dMF8H2
fossil cedar
if you where building for 1200 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4mLPzf
mossy venture
fair enough
ripe spear
I threw this together which is $970.92 (cause the newegg building thing was only giving my Asus boards) and also he said he has a 1TB NVMe already
mossy venture
id go for the g5 for $6 more for modular
untold vessel
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218?Item=N82E16883360218 VS https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195?Item=N82E16883360195&quicklink=true @fossil cedar worth dropping down to 10400 from 11400 to get 3200 RAM vs 3000 RAM + Guaranteed 3060ti from ASUS?
mossy venture
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218?Item=N82E16883360218 VS http...
no
untold vessel
I threw this together which is $970.92 (cause the newegg building thing was only...
Sheeeeeeeeeesh you went to work tysm man
mossy venture
though the case is better
untold vessel
though the case is better
yeah to be honest it was the case that made me say this too
fossil cedar
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218?Item=N82E16883360218 VS http...
3000 vs 3200 is barely no diff
get the 11400
mossy venture
case does have better airflow though, though that def wont be an issue
fossil cedar
no models may vary but doesnt matter what brand
mossy venture
the 11400f one has 500gb more storage
fossil cedar
unless it says garunteed model
mossy venture
so i would 1000% get the 11400 one
ripe spear
3000 vs 3200 is barely no diff
Intel will read the memory at 2933 so it is best to get 3200MHz memory
untold vessel
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mossy venture
b560s support xmp
fossil cedar
nah 11400 3000mhz is better than 10400 3200mhz
fossil cedar
Intel will read the memory at 2933 so it is best to get 3200MHz memory
intel sees both lol
ripe spear
I know cause when i was setting up my memory on my system they only give 2933 or 3200
untold vessel
This is all so intriguing, thank all of you for this
ripe spear
I have 3000MHz memory
fossil cedar
I know cause when i was setting up my memory on my system they only give 2933 or...
that board dependant
mossy venture
I know cause when i was setting up my memory on my system they only give 2933 or...
with what mobo
fossil cedar
2933 11400 is still better than 3200 10400
mossy venture
the 500gb extra storage on the 11400 one makes it a done deal imo
will have to spend more to put more storage in the 10400 one
ripe spear
I checked with mine which is a ASRock B560 Pro4 and 2 others which was a MSI and gigabyte
ripe spear
All 3 checked was B560 boards
fossil cedar
It says that the error code is reserved for future codes
Uhh am not sure then, do the usual, reseat memory, power connectors etc, clear cmos
restive halo
Uhh am not sure then, do the usual, reseat memory, power connectors etc, clear c...
Did all that
ripe spear
Only reason i am suggesting 12th gen is because more upgrade headroom
Meaning if he uses a 12100 now he would later go with a 13400
When it comes out
fossil cedar
Did all that
Did you try clear cmos with the battery not with the jumper?
restive halo
Did you try clear cmos with the battery not with the jumper?
No
fossil cedar
When it comes out
Yes but far worse gpu, also eniac only has certain products not all of newegg
ripe spear
6600 XT is a far worst GPU?
fossil cedar
Yes 3060 ti is about 25% better
untold vessel
Guys
is Seasonic more or less the undisputed king for PSUs
And would it be worth it to go with a DDR5 Mobo if I know for a fact I'll be upgrading when intel 14th / 15th gen is out
potent portal
mossy venture
And would it be worth it to go with a DDR5 Mobo if I know for a fact I'll be upg...
no
potent portal
DDR5 still isn't worth it
mossy venture
ddr5 is a waste of money atm, youre better of getting a new mobo later on
untold vessel
i know DDR5 is laughed at, but considering upgrade room, can we make the slightest feasible case?
ripe spear
Yes 3060 ti is about 25% better
I was also building based on what he originally mentioned saying that he would of wanted at least like a 3060 which a 6600 XT would be better than a 3060
fossil cedar
is Seasonic more or less the undisputed king for PSUs
No, if anyone I'd actually say corsair has the most balanced lineup
ripe spear
Also looked like he wanted everything from Newegg
potent portal
i know DDR5 is laughed at, but considering upgrade room, can we make the slighte...
That's the problem, unless you have a high end overclocking motherboard you're not getting much faster on DDR5 even when faster sticks are available
untold vessel
32 GB of ddr4 beats 16 gbs of ddr4 everytime yes?
fossil cedar
ddr5 is a waste of money atm, youre better of getting a new mobo later on
Unless you're going 12900ks*
untold vessel
So, for the build I'm about to do, i'm better off saving money, going ddr4, and then upgrading to ddr5 when it and mobos are more advanced?
fossil cedar
i know DDR5 is laughed at, but considering upgrade room, can we make the slighte...
Nope ddr5 is gonna improve a lot in 2 years
potent portal
untold vessel
Nope ddr5 is gonna improve a lot in 2 years
and therefore I should not upgrade until ddr5 becomes mainstream?
fossil cedar
32 GB of ddr4 beats 16 gbs of ddr4 everytime yes?
Depends on speed/timings and tasks
fossil cedar
and therefore I should not upgrade until ddr5 becomes mainstream?
Yes
untold vessel
Depends on speed/timings and tasks
16 gb 5200 cl 40 ddr5 vs 32 gb 3200 cl 16 category light gaming
potent portal
First gen of any DDR is just rough. Barely matches the best of the previous iteration.
fossil cedar
16 gb 5200 cl 40 ddr5 vs 32 gb 3200 cl 16 category light gaming
8gb ddr5 sticks suck
They have half the banks
untold vessel
8gb ddr5 sticks suck
suck worse then single channel 16 gb stick? of ddr5
fossil cedar
Neither are good options
untold vessel
hmmmm
fossil cedar
Ddr5 isn't worth it unless you're going super high end and willing to fork out ~250$ for 32gb
potent portal
Better off waiting for it to get cheaper in a couple years once supply lines stabilize
fossil cedar
And they'll be faster
fossil cedar
16 gb 5200 cl 40 ddr5 vs 32 gb 3200 cl 16 category light gaming
You should get the 4000cl19 kit of 2x16 ripjaws for 130 from gskill
untold vessel
ah
I see, I see
anyone know what's up with the Build to Order tab on Newegg's website?
I try to view other mobos and it says no results found
nvm just started an entirely new build
Good and Cheap Mobo recommendations for that 4000cl19 kit of 2x16 ripjaws, anyone?
mossy venture
Good and Cheap Mobo recommendations for that 4000cl19 kit of 2x16 ripjaws, anyon...
for 12th gen?
mossy venture
if you where building for 1200 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4mLPzf
this is your best bet for a $1200 budget if youre building yourself
sorry forgot to turn ping off pato
restive halo
Try that, take out battery, unplug from wall wait 5 mins
Nothing still
untold vessel
for 12th gen?
Ehhhhhhh yes
ripe spear
Oh i am picking up a Zotac 750 Ti for 30$ Canadian tomorrow
mossy venture
Ehhhhhhh yes
the build service is not worth it
it costs way too much for what you get
better off getting the pre built
untold vessel
it costs way too much for what you get
In what ways
mossy venture
In what ways
buying all the parts off newegg, you pay more for that
untold vessel
buying all the parts off newegg, you pay more for that
ah
untold vessel
and then paying for it to be assembled
ah
untold vessel
youre better off with the pre built
Well in that case okay maybe I'll build it myself
mossy venture
then the build pato made is perfect
untold vessel
then the build pato made is perfect
Where is it again 
mossy venture
if you where building for 1200 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4mLPzf
.
mossy venture
?
untold vessel
but would you guys recommend me downgrading to a 3060ti in order to make everything RGB for that list
I know
i know
mossy venture
but would you guys recommend me downgrading to a 3060ti in order to make everyth...
mmmmmmm
fossil cedar
anyone know what's up with the Build to Order tab on Newegg's website?
Tbh it's very limited parts wise
untold vessel
what do you think pato?
fossil cedar
sorry forgot to turn ping off pato
All good
untold vessel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6yt8H2
oooh fancy
fossil cedar
Nothing still
I guess start tearing stuff apart and rebuilding it if you've checked everything else
vague oracle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6yt8H2
No RGB PSU, smh
mossy venture
No RGB PSU, smh
you'r
mossy venture
untold vessel
better case recs, anyone?
fossil cedar
i don't really neeeeeeeeeed a 3070
Get a 6700xt then imo
untold vessel
want to display this puppy's guts
vague oracle
I’m a Lancool II mesh shill
untold vessel
what size is the ssd
1tb hynix
mossy venture
alright
untold vessel
Get a 6700xt then imo
why so
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Hwkcf/corsair-cxf-550-w-80-bronze-certified-fu...
Literally no point the rgb won't be seen lol
untold vessel
Literally no point the rgb won't be seen lol
case recs?
mossy venture
fossil cedar
case recs?
4000d airflow, p360, p400a
untold vessel
5% better than 3060 ti and cheaper
hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
untold vessel
5% better than 3060 ti and cheaper
Can you please update the part list
Guys, what's the best 16x2 set of RGB ram
yes I'm serious
fossil cedar
Do it yourself
restive halo
I guess start tearing stuff apart and rebuilding it if you've checked everything...
So taking out all the ram accept the one in slot 4 furthest from the cpu and iit posted but it shut off on me in about 45 seconds
fossil cedar
So taking out all the ram accept the one in slot 4 furthest from the cpu and ii...
Try that same thing but move to slot 1,2,3, 4 with all your sticks, one at a time
untold vessel
Do it yourself
What would the best 6700xt model be per your opinion
mossy venture
thje cheapest one that isnt mech 2x
fossil cedar
Or asrock challenger
untold vessel
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RFGbt6/xfx-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-speedster-swft-309-video-card-rx-67xtyjfdv vs https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HBG3C/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-challenger-d-video-card-rx6700xt-cld-12g ?
mossy venture
xfx
untold vessel
for $9 less would it be better
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KdzFf7/kingston-valueram-4-gb-1-x-4-gb-ddr4-3200-cl22-memory-kvr32n22s64 4x32 kit? 😳
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KdzFf7/kingston-valueram-4-gb-1-x-4-gb-ddr4-320...
no
mossy venture
but secksy green
no
untold vessel
if you buy that i will throw a frog at you
MORE GREEN
mossy venture
and not a green frog
,
untold vessel
and not a green frog
mossy venture
pls dont bypass filter
untold vessel
boo
untold vessel
its godtier
untold vessel
why
mossy venture
timings
untold vessel
actually why, I don't know
mossy venture
c22 is the main timing, subtimings are like 36-36-50 something or some high crap like that
the performance from 3200c22 kits are terrible
and youd have to buy 4 of those to hit 16gb, which 4 sticks of ram is worse than 2
untold vessel
explain timings to a 4 year old
untold vessel
explain latency to 3 year old
untold vessel
ah
mossy venture
pato, sips, or rawr could explain much better than me
as well as other people
but i dont feel like making a list of those people
untold vessel
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk VS https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7
$12 difference
mossy venture
near identical kits aside from looks
fossil cedar
the performance from 3200c22 kits are terrible
It's flat 22s and tras like uh 40 or something idk but still bad
mossy venture
ah
frail valve
When getting a 4k monitor, should I aim to get it in 27/28in or 32in size?
mossy venture
When getting a 4k monitor, should I aim to get it in 27/28in or 32in size?
if youre gaming, especially on that 1650s, you should aim to not have a 4k monitor
frail valve
if youre gaming, especially on that 1650s, you should aim to not have a 4k monit...
Oh no I am not gaming at 4k, just spreadsheets, word docs, youtube, and movies
mossy venture
then whatever monitor size you think fits your need
frail valve
ok
mossy venture
though 1440p would do just fine
frail valve
yeah local shop has a 4k 27in for $199, so I was just weighing my options
fossil cedar
When getting a 4k monitor, should I aim to get it in 27/28in or 32in size?
4k 32" min imo
fossil cedar
Oh no I am not gaming at 4k, just spreadsheets, word docs, youtube, and movies
Games are gonna luck pretty bad if you're running 1080p on a 4k monitor btw
frail valve
I know, I still have my 1080p acer 144hz monitor for gaming
fossil cedar
Ahh
But yeah imo 27" usually 1440p better option
Or at least should be able to save a bit of money although 4k 27" for 200 not bad
frail valve
a friend sent me this link not too long ago
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Refurbished-LG-32UP50S-B-32-60Hz-UHD-HDR-Monitor-With-FreeSync-Black/284926506
but given that its name is LG 32UP50S-B and the description says LG 32UL500-W, im skeptical
ripe spear
Eww 60hz
untold vessel
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z6ddnQ/gigabyte-b660m-ds3h-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b660m-ds3h-ddr4 VS https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yZPQzy/asus-prime-b660m-a-d4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-b660m-a-d4
$30 difference
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z6ddnQ/gigabyte-b660m-ds3h-ddr4-micro-atx-lga17...
go for msi mag bazooka
ripe spear
I don't like MSI and i would say to go with MSI
untold vessel
go for msi mag bazooka
can i please have a link
mossy venture
strong raft
Yea that or the 1 right below. Also could just run ddu instead like we probably should.
south cliff
Well people have told me to do it in safe mode
strong raft
Oh my bad, yea perhaps. I forget which thing we actually select.
oak jay
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rzP74s anybody have any changes that you would make to this build?
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rzP74s anybody have any changes that you would mak...
yes. many
whats the total budget
oak jay
around 1300
oak jay
last person i talked to reccomended cheap ram and a way overkill gpu
mossy venture
corsair makes terrible ram, nzxt makes terrible case
that psu is not great
get arctic p12s for fans
oak jay
im gonna do that case either way, and its crucial ram
mossy venture
im gonna do that case either way, and its crucial ram
oh misread, still not worth $125 for a 16gb kit
mossy venture
im gonna do that case either way, and its crucial ram
and that case is not worth it
i would highly not recommend it
id get the p360a or 4000d airflow
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LmCFf7/arctic-p12-pst-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00137a for fans
south cliff
got everything working now installing drivers
mossy venture
what about a full atx motherboard
for the 4000d airflow or p360a, thats fine
oak jay
ok
mossy venture
but the mag bazooka is one of the best b660s, especially for the price
hot holly
id get the p360a or 4000d airflow
P360a the better option
mossy venture
P360a the better option
meh
hot holly
It is cheaper
oak jay
what about this?
mossy venture
theyre both good casess
hot holly
So
mossy venture
what about this?
bazooka better, but either works
oak jay
ok
i have a different version of it in my current pc
the new ones for my brother
also opinions on the hyper 212 evo
not evo
mossy venture
its garbage
oak jay
alright
mossy venture
any 212 variant is trash
oak jay
i assume an aio is overkill for a build like this
mossy venture
i assume an aio is overkill for a build like this
very
though if you want one, the clc 280 is on sale for $62
it would be super super overkill for anything under an oced 12600k
mossy venture
it is a bit loud
oak jay
i dont think he cares
probably gonna end up on the floor either way
i may upgrade to a 500gb ssd and a 2tb hdd
is that m.2 ssd reliable?
oak jay
alright ill keep it and add a 2tb hdd
hes not very good at storage management so more fast storage is a good idea
hot holly
Mp33 is pretty dang good for the price I would recommend going with a sn570 if possible
oak jay
im gonna swap to the sn570 just because its a more well known brand
the total for he build is like 1500 now but thats probably fine
hot holly
im gonna swap to the sn570 just because its a more well known brand
Whatever, sn570 is better anyways
hot holly
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/47Jfmr
Use the stock cooler with the 12400f
Instead of spending 60 bucks on a aio
oak jay
750?
hot holly
750?
Around there
650 watts would be fine but
I would personally recommend a little more
oak jay
hot holly
850 watts is too much
hot holly
Ye
hot holly
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/47Jfmr
I’m assuming your planing to do rendering and editing
strong raft
Better off w/ a higher tier 750w tbh. 3070 doesn't need an 850 for sure
hot holly
Better off w/ a higher tier 750w tbh. 3070 doesn't need an 850 for sure
His power supply is fairly decent
oak jay
32gb ram because he loves leaving tabs open
hot holly
32gb ram because he loves leaving tabs open
Personally I would change a few things
oak jay
evga?
desert gulch
Yeah
If you want a nice 850/750, grab a g6
If you don't really plan on upgrading GPU much, grab a EVGA GT 750, decent HEC unit
oak jay
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Rt8H2 this better?
desert gulch
If wanting to save money, aio isn't needed for that chip
oak jay
i would rather go nvidia
desert gulch
Id toss a se-214-xt on there, it's like a $20 air cooler
The stock one should work but it wouldn't be very quiet
hot holly
The stock one should work but it wouldn't be very quiet
Personally I don’t think a ton of people would care but alr
oak jay
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkZZ2m is this better
hot holly
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkZZ2m is this better
My build Is a lot better
Your main use is gaming
So
desert gulch
I'd dump the HDD, if you need more than 1tb, may as well grab a 2tb ssd
oak jay
its basically the same just different gpu, less storage, and a different case
the case isnt locked in, at some point we will go to microcenter and pick one
desert gulch
If going to a microcenter, I'd revamp a good part of the list
oak jay
hes got a 500gb 2.5 inch ssd in his laptop rn so maybe that can be moved over
i mean yeah some stuff is gonna change depending on what we can get
mossy venture
650 watts is going to be enough
more than enough
650 is enough for a 3070 with a 12700k
oak jay
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkZZ2m are there any actual issues with this
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkZZ2m is this better
mp33 is a better ssd
oak jay
not what could be better any issues
hot holly
650 is enough for a 3070 with a 12700k
Nah
mossy venture
Nah
coming from someone who ran a 3060 ti on a 500w psu
yes it is
stop talking out your ass
hot holly
mp33 is a better ssd
No it isn’t sn570 is better
oak jay
im doing the sn570
mossy venture
im doing the sn570
which is a waste of money, but you do you
oak jay
from a known brand lol
desert gulch
Sn570 is better than mp33, just worse value
mossy venture
from a known brand lol
mp33 is one of the best budget ssds
oak jay
this isnt a budget pc
hot holly
Sn570 is better than mp33, just worse value
Sn570 has great value
mossy venture
this isnt a budget pc
k
desert gulch
Why pay more for something you won't notice?
mossy venture
Sn570 has great value
not at $18 over mp33
desert gulch
Sn570 has great value
No.
mossy venture
Why pay more for something you won't notice?
theyre also deadset on an h510 flow
oak jay
no im not
desert gulch
You're getting real close to p31 territory, which smokes a sn570
oak jay
its whatever my brother likes lmfao
mossy venture
👍
desert gulch
theyre also deadset on an h510 flow
That's fine, it's an good case
mossy venture
idk why i try anymore
mossy venture
That's fine, it's an good case
not for the price
desert gulch
Better than a h510 non flow
mossy venture
not when p360a is the same price
hot holly
this isnt a budget pc
You still wanna get the best buck for bang
oak jay
i just put massive noctua industrial fans on the front
desert gulch
@wheat coral thoughts on h510 flow?
I loved building in it personally, and it seems well put together and all that for the most part
oak jay
its basically the same as any other case lmfao
wheat coral
<@369668313208324100> thoughts on h510 flow?
expensive, but a good case
desert gulch
Yup
mossy venture
its basically the same as any other case lmfao
its a meh case at a too high price
oak jay
its a meh case at a too high price
L opinion
desert gulch
Gamers Nexus reccomended it for when it hit $80 ish
Everything in the h510 flow is REALLY well thought out, I have to say
Routing cables and stuff in it is great
oak jay
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkZZ2m are there any issues that will cause the pc to be terrible and/or not work with this build?
still roostBOT
olivera#4370 has been warned
wheat coral
it would look amazing with rgb there
desert gulch
i hate this bar
I was fine with it while building tbh
desert gulch
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkZZ2m are there any issues that will cause the pc...
Grab a wifi board at that price
oak jay
if you have full modularity its fine
oak jay
Grab a wifi board at that price
alright
desert gulch
If you want a nice wifi board https://www.ebay.com/itm/384921535372
still roostBOT
point#1776 has been warned
wheat coral
full atx with matx is no
never ever suggest that
its the ugliest thing you could do to a build
desert gulch
Then grab the full ATX version if you want
wheat coral
literally its so awful
desert gulch
Like $20 more for full ATX iirc
hot holly
full atx with matx is no
I could care less lmao
desert gulch
Gaming x ax better imo
oak jay
my standpoint is full atx should be with full atx
desert gulch
Should be like $170
oak jay
no wifi
desert gulch
Ax means wifi
oak jay
oh
desert gulch
Just grab the non "M" version
Yeah
If going to microcenter, I'd honestly not go 12400f tbh
earnest olive
Thats gigabytes way of saying wifi
it comes from the wifi specification name
wheat coral
ax is for wifi 6
earnest olive
wifi 5 = IEEE 802.11ac
wifi 6 = IEEE 802.11ax
wheat coral
802.11ax
desert gulch
it comes from the wifi specification name
Just trying to explain it in a easy way xD
hot holly
I would put a mini itx in a m atx case for all I care
desert gulch
If going to microcenter, I'd go Ryzen 5 5600
earnest olive
mini itx boards tend to carry a price premium
oak jay
If going to microcenter, I'd go Ryzen 5 5600
you are the only person to recommend ryzen and i agree
desert gulch
you are the only person to recommend ryzen and i agree
Only for microcenter and apu ppl, and a few other specific cases
oak jay
i have ryzen and its fine
desert gulch
5600 at mc is like $130 after coupon iirc
mossy venture
pro vdh wifi
oak jay
they are all micro atx
wheat coral
i have seen 3 people in the last week say its an awful board/has die don them
desert gulch
Here's the coupon for microcenter 5600
Brings it down to $125
Which is a amazing price for it
oak jay
yeah i paid like 200 for my 3600
desert gulch
Mhm yea
oak jay
what chipset is best atm?
desert gulch
Z690 if talking consumer grade gaming
earnest olive
if you're on ryzen b550 is good for 99.9% of users
oak jay
ok im calling is this is what im going to go off of
stuff is probably going to change but in general this is the build
wheat coral
how much is a p31 gold 1tb
mossy venture
110 i think
winter marsh
Howdy ho
strong raft
110 i think
Sometimes $93. 
winter marsh
@oak jay btw the Ryzen 5 5600X can be purchased for 195.99 now on Newegg https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-ryzen-5-5000-series/p/N82E16819113741?Item=9SIASGMJEN5793
@oak jay The MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi is a solid mobo and this MSI is pretty cool as well https://us.msi.com/PC-Case/MAG-FORGE-100R
desert gulch
<@630179973579276318> btw the Ryzen 5 5600X can be purchased for 195.99 now on N...
That's horrible
He's getting the 5600 for like $125 at mc, probs just forgot to edit price
winter marsh
Btw you can find used 5600X CPU's on Ebay for as low as $175.99
As well as the MSI Mag Forge 100R case for as low as $50.99 Open Box on Ebay
NM the MSI cases are priced above $100 USD
upper oriole
HTTPS://pcpartpicker.com/list/qb2PJM question on there is anything should change? Also what monitor should I look for?
potent portal
What about it? I could give a ten page explanation
dapper crypt
What about it? I could give a ten page explanation
It's terrible right I heard it's terrible
dapper crypt
What about it? I could give a ten page explanation
and the prebuilt I bought might come with it, idk if the brand varies
south cliff
my new 6700xt is like night and day from the rx 570
potent portal
In general Asrock and Intel don't get along, mostly because their power limits are below Intel spec
potent portal
my new 6700xt is like night and day from the rx 570
Bench it! Get those good chemicals flowing
dapper crypt
In general Asrock and Intel don't get along, mostly because their power limits a...
So there's a high chance that it's not going to be ASRock since I have an i7?
south cliff
how should i bench it
dapper crypt
how should i bench it
i use userbenchmark.com but idk if its a good one
desert gulch
its fairly bad for actually benching
potent portal
So there's a high chance that it's not going to be ASRock since I have an i7?
No that has nothing to do with it. They'll just use whatever they have on hand.
desert gulch
for benching gpus, 3dmark is generally highly reccomended
dapper crypt
so whats a good benching website
dapper crypt
No that has nothing to do with it. They'll just use whatever they have on hand.
gotcha
south cliff
does 3dmark cost anything?
potent portal
Time spy demo yeah
south cliff
ok
dapper crypt
No that has nothing to do with it. They'll just use whatever they have on hand.
I did skytech and they had ASRock z690 and one Asus
cyan ravine
That asrock board tho 😝
potent portal
how should i bench it
Unigine superposition is also fun to run
cyan ravine
ITS MY FIRST TIME OK
Not your fault
desert gulch
heaven is neat
cyan ravine
They don't write a manual for knowing which is good or not
dapper crypt
They don't write a manual for knowing which is good or not
I even have the slowest processor i7-12700F :( but i do have a 3070 tho
cyan ravine
Is it just a 12700F? Or 12700KF?
desert gulch
nah bro that is a really good cpu
desert gulch
yeah
dapper crypt
it's clock speed is 2.1GHz tho
cyan ravine
It's good. But you won't benefit from Z690 with it unfortunately.
Fortunately the board might be somewhat ok with it, in a twist of irony
south cliff
Also i have a question is it fine if my cat sits on top of my pc?
potent portal
I highly doubt they're giving you a Z690 board if they're just giving you the non-K
desert gulch
Also i have a question is it fine if my cat sits on top of my pc?
@coarse coral answer this young lad's question
potent portal
If they do they're dumb
dapper crypt
thats not boost at all
boost is 4.9 GHz
desert gulch
If they do they're dumb
keep in mind the board is supposedly a ddr5
dapper crypt
but that's overclocking it, is it not?
desert gulch
but its a great cpu
cyan ravine
What you want is a good B660 board with a 12700F like an MSI A Pro