building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

i mean i can get 200 fps in league with intel integrated

[merry badger]

league isn't exactly a demanding game

[mossy venture]

val can run max settings 144fps on a 1050 ti i believe

[earnest olive]

probably could in val too if val didn't refuse to run on integrated

my laptop gets cpu bottlenecked in val

but it was really cool to see the fps go up after improving my ram oc

with the old 3200c17 ram oc i was stuck at 400 fps

went up to 440 fps average with 3600c19

[fossil cedar]

That's grand ye

[obsidian adder]

I have a cheap custom build I bought off a guy new, has room for one graphics card. I need to run four monitors for business. Not gaming. What cards do you recommend?

[mossy venture]

what do you do for business

anything intense?

[earnest olive]

does it have integrated graphics?

some PCs can support 4 displays without a graphics card even

if you have integrated graphics that can handle 2-3 displays then you can choose pretty much whatever you want lol

[obsidian adder]

It has integrated graphics, that can run two. But when I put a graphics card in that can run two, I can’t get both to work

[obsidian adder]

No, I sell tools

[mossy venture]

1030 works

730

[obsidian adder]

Mine integrated only supports 2

[obsidian adder]

Not sure what that means

[mossy venture]

gt 1030

[earnest olive]

you need to enable integrated graphics in your bios for them to run simultaneously

if you already have a graphics card with 2 display outputs then no need to buy anything new

just gotta find that bios setting

[obsidian adder]

What’s the difficulty level on that process because I can’t Google how to do it

[obsidian adder]

Too expensive, I’m not a millionaire. $250 Max

[mossy venture]

1030 is 70 max used...

[ripe spear]

Also have to make sure it is the GDDR5 model

DDR4 model is fine for watching 4K media and playing SNES games

[ripe spear]

If he has 250$ in total he could wait for EVGA's next midweek madness and see if they would sell something like a GTX 1660 Super/Ti for 250$ or less

[earnest olive]

what motherboard do you have?

y'all he doesn't need to buy a new graphics card lol

just needs to turn on integrated graphics

[mossy venture]

ohh

i see

didnt see that part

[ripe spear]

What is his CPU/APU then?

[mossy venture]

they have a gpu and an igpu

[earnest olive]

idk but supposedly it has 2 display outputs

[kindred pawn]

Should you spend more on a cpu or gou

[desert gulch]

Gonna depend fully on your use case

For a build that's orientated towards gaming, typically you spend more on a gpu

[kindred pawn]

Thanks bro

[kindred pawn]

What if you want to stream?

Or is there an option to make it more gpu intensive

[earnest olive]

just get an nvidia gpu and let nvenc handle the streaming

for pure gaming you don't need anything higher end than an i5-12400 to handle like, a 3080 at 1440p

might want to step it up to like r7 5800x3d if you're going higher than 3080 just because... well, you're rich

or if you intend to use a 3080+ for 1080p high refresh as well

[kindred pawn]

My buddy just wants to stream minecraft 💀

[desert gulch]

What's his budget?

[kindred pawn]

He said he'd spend 400 on a gpu but I asked what's his budget for a cpu and he says 800?

[desert gulch]

Bruh 💀

[kindred pawn]

He says it's cause he'll spend the 400 on the gpu then see what he needs for a cpu

[desert gulch]

Something like a 3060 would be great for playing and streaming Minecraft imo

Depends if he wants to max out settings and have shaders or rtx stuff

[kindred pawn]

And what kinda cpu would he need? I suggested a ryzen 7 5800x

I also said he should get the 3060

But I suggested the 3050 first which is cheaper

[desert gulch]

For CPU, something like a 12400(f) would do greay

Great

[kindred pawn]

Is Intel better than amd or is it preference?

[mossy venture]

are you making a new build?

[desert gulch]

Intel currently have much better value

In the midrange, amd and Intel are fairly close

[mossy venture]

only place they meet is 5950x and 12900k, but id still go intel

[desert gulch]

I'd only suggest amd currently if you plan to go without a graphics card for a while, you live near a microcenter, or you don't live in a place with good Intel 12th gen availability.

[kindred pawn]

Oui

Yes

[mossy venture]

whats the budget and what country do you live in?

[kindred pawn]

Canada, budget is yet to be set for the whole build but I'd say for the gpu and cpu it'd be 600 each

Actually gimme a sec I'll bring him in hrre

[mossy venture]

doesnt mean much without a total budget

[desert gulch]

12400f and 3060 probs will fit in 1200 cad ez

[formal girder]

Should be $400 for CPU and mobo and $800 gpu for top experience

[mossy venture]

id imagine something like this would be the budget https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/T3J2k9 could go 12600kf and ak620 if wanted

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cqCD4D/arctic-freezer-34-esports-cpu-cooler-acfre00057a with this if wanted, forgot to add a heatsink

[kindred pawn]

With my knowledge I'd have never known I could get this for $200 more than my build I made in neweggs build thing

[mossy venture]

pcp better than newegg builder, since it shows all prices instead of just the prices on neweggs build list

if you find out an actual budget lmk and i can revise the list

[kindred pawn]

He'll be here in a sec but in the meantime I have a $2000 budget for Canadian, what can I get for that? I'd be gaming and a little streaming

[mossy venture]

one sec

id try to do this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FR3MFg

[kindred pawn]

Bro went ham on that gpu

[kindred pawn]

So what would I be losing with a cpu that cheap

[mossy venture]

not much

with NVENC, streaming isnt heavy on the cpu

12400 is enough for a 3090 ti

could go for 12600kf if wanted, with an ak620 for the heatsink

[kindred pawn]

But for gaming would i lose many frames? I haven't really known the impact a cpu has

[mossy venture]

nope, not in games that itll matter

in esports youre always going to be cpu bottlenecked, but youll still get more than enough frames

[mossy venture]

for reference, even with a 12900ks/5800x3d and a 3060 ti youll still be cpu bottlenecked in a lot of esports

[kindred pawn]

Ik it'll sound stupid but if it's being bottlenecked what would happen

[mossy venture]

nothing

[kindred pawn]

Oh ._.

[bold iron]

Hey Im donells buddy trying to see how to build a pc idk much about them

[mossy venture]

whats your budget for the whole build?

and what do you plan to use the pc for?

[bold iron]

I wanna be able to stream minecraft and do YouTube videos/live streams and what I’m trying to do is with every paycheck Im gona buy a née part of the pc so in total about 1.5-2k I’d say

New*

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QJrh9r this works

[bold iron]

Is that all good enough for minecraft?

[mossy venture]

easily

[desert gulch]

Piece buying in general isn't very reccomended btw

[mossy venture]

you can do a 700 build for minecraft

if youre on a budget you can do much cheaper than that build

[kindred pawn]

I thought building was better

Or is piece buying something different

[desert gulch]

Piece buying is buying the individual parts over time

[kindred pawn]

Why isn't it recommended

[desert gulch]

You can get dead parts and not know and then it's just a pain

[kindred pawn]

Ohh ok

[desert gulch]

Then you're out of return period and in warranty/rma

[bold iron]

Thank you for your help man and yea that budget is great should I just buy it over time like every piece at a time or all together?

[mossy venture]

since youre on a budget i would do this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VTLK78

and buy it all at once

unless youre a minor and dont have to worry about bills and such

[bold iron]

Okay yea and ill buy the first link you sent it’ll just take me a month to be able to afford the whole thing

Cause i wanna get some good gameplay Im while being able to stream or record at the same time

[mossy venture]

prices mightve changed by then

so check back in with us when you have the money

[bold iron]

Yes ill keep that in mind thank you

[ripe spear]

Thoughts on this system https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JrT3Rv ?

[mossy venture]

very imbalanced

and i would not buy most of those parts

especially at that price

thats the price of a 3060 ti build in canada

[ripe spear]

That is also a ITX build

[mossy venture]

is matx acceptable?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/QZsBv3

[ripe spear]

That defeats the purpose of it being an ITX build

[mossy venture]

what form factor is itx again?

[ripe spear]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jWW7wc

At the time that i made that list there wasn't any H610's in stock

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bRZPfv

mitx

[cyan ravine]

I would at least pay the $80 difference and go to the 3060 ti like Bacca's saying

550 3050 just sounds wrong

[desert gulch]

Iirc those had super limited vrms

Those asrock crap itx b660 bosrds

[mossy venture]

its crap, but its either that or a gigglebyte h610

[desert gulch]

I'd like to say it was 95w hard limit?

[mossy venture]

for the same price

p200a has a solid top...

[ripe spear]

Well i would be going for this board https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/MMKKHx/asrock-h610m-itxac-mini-itx-lga1700-motherboard-h610m-itxac

[mossy venture]

id spend the extra for the b660

[ripe spear]

And also sticking to the i3

[mossy venture]

then thats fine, but id still do the rest of the parts in the list i made

1tb hdds are pointless, 2tb are the same price, the psu in that is C tier, the 3050 is not worth anywhere near 550, the ram is worse than the ram i put in my list

and the heatsink is also not worth the price for a 12100f, the stock cooler is more than enough

[ripe spear]

I like having a HDD still for additional storage for downloads

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/x2JmP6/deepcool-gammaxx-400-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx400v2-bl this would be fine

[mossy venture]

then get a 2tb one

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008

or https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gHNxFT/western-digital-wd-blue-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezbx

[ripe spear]

That case doesn't come with additional drive bays for 3.5"

[cyan ravine]

So you already own the 1tb?

[ripe spear]

and the back doesn't fit it as well

I have a 1tb 2.5" Seagate HDD

right now i just use it as an external

[mossy venture]

thats fine then

[cyan ravine]

Is that why you had one in the list then

[ripe spear]

Yep

Also the 3050 i get in the mail on Monday

[mossy venture]

then return it

550 is absolutely ridiculous for a 3050

[cyan ravine]

Did you really pay 550 for that

[ripe spear]

I didn't change the price cause it is the b stock i got from Wednesday

[cyan ravine]

Oh what price was it

[mossy venture]

how much did it cost you?

[ripe spear]

It was like 280$ US

[mossy venture]

total?

or before import taxes

[ripe spear]

Well i paid in USD cause i also have a US bank account and a friend to send it to me after from Vermont

[mossy venture]

how much is it after the shipping and everything

[ornate condor]

customs fee sux

[ripe spear]

Shipping was free

[mossy venture]

from your friend in vermont to you

[ripe spear]

Cause i am a Elite member on EVGA

[ripe spear]

He comes to Canada on Monday on his own cause of his work so

[mossy venture]

ok

[ripe spear]

So no additional fee's

[mossy venture]

cool

[ripe spear]

But if i was to pay that in CAD it would be 352.59

So a lot less than 550 lol

[mossy venture]

ok

[cyan ravine]

That's a lot better

[ornate condor]

in my state theres tons of cargo forwarder company warehouses

couse my state is tax free lmao

[ripe spear]

So here is what it would look like updated https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbNTmr

[mossy venture]

3600c18<3200c16

also the p200a in my list is the same case just without the shipping costs

[ornate condor]

EU have 20% impport fee lmao

[mossy venture]

the asus tuf is also a better psu

B tier instead of C tier

[ripe spear]

I could always pay like 10$ more for this then https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y9QcCJ/kingston-fury-renegade-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-kf436c16rb1k232

[mossy venture]

thats worth it then

[fossil cedar]

How much cheaper is 3200cl16 tho?

[mossy venture]

its 145

[fossil cedar]

Ehh that's 3600 cl16 -20 tho

[ripe spear]

130

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/x2JmP6/deepcool-gammaxx-400-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx400v2-bl id also just get this heatsink

or stick with stock

the heatsink you have in there is super overkill for an i3

[fossil cedar]

Also I've heard vuogo cost a fortune in shipping I'd double check with @cursive wharf which one it was tho

[fossil cedar]

I'd probably grab that instead

[cursive wharf]

Vuugo be $20 - $25 shipping usually, not insane but can easily be a deal breaker compared to a diff retailer + product

[ripe spear]

For that cooler i would have to check it out from my local shop instead because i don't know if it would come with the LGA1700 brackets by default

[cyan ravine]

Just use the stock cooler

[fossil cedar]

By now it does

[ripe spear]

Oh ya and the only reason for 32gb of memory is cause Borderlands 3 on DX12 is a memory killer

When i had 16gb of memory it was using like 90% of it

[fossil cedar]

Also zero it's really not worth going from 11400 to 12400

[ripe spear]

One of many reasons why i am building a ITX system is because oddly i still do LAN parties at my friends place lol

[fossil cedar]

Oh itx nvm

[ripe spear]

I am not building a new system i am building a second system

[cursive wharf]

Major garbage collection of RAM cache typically happens at like 95% - 97% mem usage. Unless you notice stutters from page filing or crashing you most likely wont need to worry about 32gb

Good to have still, just a note to make

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i got that

[ripe spear]

Well slowly we're going to be hitting the age of when 32gb will be the norm and 16gb will be the minimum

[fossil cedar]

COD moment

[earnest olive]

...?

[fossil cedar]

Cache file of 25gb was too small apparently

[earnest olive]

where did you get this idea

[mossy venture]

more expensive, same perf

[earnest olive]

same perf?

[mossy venture]

also i got it from you and pato lol

[earnest olive]

first word latency isn't the same as perf

when did i say that

bandwidth still matters...

[fossil cedar]

He talking xmps

[cursive wharf]

idk anything about COD, but dat be fun

[fossil cedar]

3600 18 22 vs 3200 16 18

[earnest olive]

sure, but it's still higher bandwidth, higher IMC frequency, etc

[cyan ravine]

Could you even use the 3600 xmp on h610 anyway lol

[earnest olive]

no

[mossy venture]

idts

[earnest olive]

h610 is capped to 3200

[fossil cedar]

Hard crashed on me so i had to just set on auto

[earnest olive]

but in general 3600c18 is better than 3200c16. it's just a matter of what the price difference is

[ripe spear]

Ya H610 is capped to 3200MHz

[earnest olive]

i don't know where people got the idea that intel has zero scaling with ram speed

[cursive wharf]

G1 is capped at 2933 still right? I cant remember now

[earnest olive]

no

[mossy venture]

i never said that...

[earnest olive]

wait

on h610? i don't know

on b660 definitely no

[earnest olive]

well that's the only "logic" that could lead to the conclusion that 3600c18 is inferior to 3200c16

[fossil cedar]

Idk i think the power supply maxes out at 1600w /s

[mossy venture]

im just repeating what id been told by multiple people here

[earnest olive]

and it's also an incredibly common idea that's completely wrong

well then i'm telling you otherwise

[ripe spear]

B660 for ASRock goes up to 5000MHz

[mossy venture]

otherwise thered be no point in getting 4000mhz ram compared to 2333mhz ram for intel

[earnest olive]

...which is pretty much the same as what you're saying

lol

[mossy venture]

ok

[fossil cedar]

B660's limit is nothing

[earnest olive]

if you said "3600c18 is usually not worth it over 3200c16" then sure i agree

[cursive wharf]

Can only get 3200 on locked board by using G2 (as we are talking about locks, it be any non mem OC board). Maybe they moved to G1 now, as Im pretty sure this was 11th gen. But idk

[earnest olive]

but saying "3600c18<3200c16" is objectively false

[earnest olive]

i'm running 3600 gear 1 on HM570 + non-K 11th gen CPU

laptop, sure, but 99% sure same rules apply to desktop

actually, 11th gen locked boards give you access to VCCSA still, while 12th gen doesn't

[cursive wharf]

"3600c18<3200c16 in $/perf" has a chance of working too, if you're on an unlucky day

[earnest olive]

so it's kind of annoying on 12th since you just have to play lottery with what you can run on auto VCCSA

[fossil cedar]

Sips why you got carter pcs in your pc smh

[earnest olive]

oh god imagine those gpu temps

[cursive wharf]

Idk mobile, but H570 got mem OC stuff

[earnest olive]

yeah, B560 also did

i used some B560 boards

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[earnest olive]

explosion

[fossil cedar]

bUt aSus sTrIx BeSt

[cursive wharf]

No NVLINK tho

[earnest olive]

i think those cards have become asus asphyx not asus strix

[cursive wharf]

Wait are they straight up just missing one connector per card while the PC is on?

Guess not. No PCB cutout for the connector. So those be 3070 Strix White then

[ripe spear]

wtf is wrong with this GPU lol

Also the f=fudge cause it is PG13 in here lol

[cursive wharf]

Seller doesnt know what they are talking about. AMD GPUs dont have "CUDA Cores"

[jagged ember]

amd definitely uses nvidia cuda cores

[ripe spear]

@jagged ember I found a case for you lol

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00GU-000B5 feast your eyes on this lol

Also they got the color wrong

[jagged ember]

why is the case the same color as the hair

[ripe spear]

That is what i said

@jagged ember I found a 3090 that no one in their right mind should ever buy

https://www.newegg.com/corn-rtx-3090-vulcan-oc-v/p/1FT-0040-000H8

[ornate condor]

lol

imagine paying 4k for it

[ripe spear]

I could imagine that during the shortage

[ornate condor]

*saying who paid 2.4k for white strix 3090

[ripe spear]

2.5k for this white 3090 lol https://www.newegg.com/ax-rtx3090-x3w/p/1FT-0040-000W7

[ornate condor]

it was last year and gpu prices were really high

[ripe spear]

@ornate condor Tell me what do you see wrong with this picture https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-0040-00177

[ornate condor]

looks like mix of tuf and rog lmao

[ripe spear]

Look at what it is and the price and why it costs less

This Corn company is really messed up

[winter marsh]

Howdy ho

[ornate condor]

oh it's retail price

[ripe spear]

I found the perfect GPU for a Spider-Man build but i wouldn't pay what they're asking for

https://www.newegg.com/p/1FT-0040-00167 if you vertically mount it

[ornate condor]

white strix is most beautiful gpu ever

lol 1.7k for 10gb 3080

[ripe spear]

This is the only beautiful Asus card

[winter marsh]

I’ll settle for the Asus TUF myself

[ornate condor]

gundam

[ripe spear]

https://tenor.com/view/mobile-suit-gundam-gundam-robot-anime-sword-gif-17779579

[ornate condor]

I like white strix more than gundam actually

I got gundam monitor but white strix 3090

[winter marsh]

There are Gundam and Neon Genesis Evangelion builds too you know

[ornate condor]

heres my build . I mean old build. I always forgetting to take current pic lol

[ripe spear]

Ya but Gundam is more popular

[winter marsh]

The Evangelion products are available for retail just yet

[ornate condor]

umm I really didn't like eva series

I wonder if there will be white strix 40 series

couse theres no white strix 3080 ti , 3080 12gb , and 3090ti

I wonder if it's discontinued

[ripe spear]

Id only care for the Evanelion parts if it was based off this one

@ornate condor i know you'd care as well if the system was like that one lol

[ornate condor]

lol I want vertical mount my white strix but idk if it will affect temps

and actually i'm too lazy for it lol

[ripe spear]

If your GPU would be up close to the side panel then the temps might get hotter

I honestly don't know what case you own so

[ornate condor]

its DT500

[ripe spear]

But for air cooled from what i seen in most cases tends to get hotter

You mean TD500?

[ornate condor]

coolermaster dt 500 white

not the best case but that was only one white case I found nearby lol

thinking about getting Lian li case tho

[ripe spear]

You got the name wrong https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mid-tower/masterbox-td500-mesh-2021/

[ornate condor]

lol

[ripe spear]

Also i think you might need to buy the mount for it

[ornate condor]

yeah its not included

[formal girder]

Sadly I have the 3080 10g white strix

[ornate condor]

unicorn

[ripe spear]

Nothing wrong with that

[ornate condor]

I was looking for it for long but it was impossible to get one last year

thats why I got 3090 lol

[formal girder]

In an all black and silver build with no other rgb/lights

[ornate condor]

[formal girder]

It doesn't feel right

[ornate condor]

white strix deserves better

[ripe spear]

Quick replace your parts in this case but white https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-evo/

[cyan ravine]

The rgb makes it stand out even more lmfao

[formal girder]

It's bigger and more power hungry than my 3090

[ornate condor]

it deserves build like that

[frigid night]

Ok guys, I was able to find all the part names and compile them to a list.. I am curious if the price is what it's worth or what you guys think it should be worth. Please don't suggest upgrades as I don't want to spend any money on this build (maybe a disc drive because there is a spot for one). The only use case this PC will have is Diablo 3 (think once a week if that.) and facebook/hulu/disney+. Most likely nothing else.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/tiraniss/saved/qndJnQ

[ripe spear]

Mine is a black and white build lol

And don't worry the top fans i did flip them

[ornate condor]

btw I love Trident Z Royals

[formal girder]

I can't do flashy ram since I spent a good amount of ballistix black

[ripe spear]

I have enough RGB fans in my system that i don't need flashy memory lol

[formal girder]

I might consider white fans or Arctic P12 argb fans

[ripe spear]

This is the kit i bought which you can daisy chain the fan header and the RGB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HJPBFTF/?th=1

It is very quiet

For the ARGB header you can daisy chain them and then plug it into the ARGB header

[ornate condor]

for same price I would get current gen setup like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[frigid night]

I already have this PC. I bought it for $150. I am trying to get an actual price on it so I can sell it to my EX.

[ripe spear]

wrong link

[frigid night]

She had wanted me to build her a pc with a $800 budget

but this will do what she wants for cheaper.

[ornate condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZM8vRv

[frigid night]

and she is willing to buy it. I just need to know a price.

[south cliff]

what is a good price for a used 6800

[ornate condor]

500$ maybe 🤔

[ripe spear]

Cheapest 6800 XT new is 790

So id say between 600 to 700

[ornate condor]

he didn't said 6800xt lol

[south cliff]

used 6800 on ebay is like 550 -600

[ripe spear]

6800 is 700$

[south cliff]

i want used tho

[ripe spear]

So still around 600$ in that ball park

[south cliff]

idk

one is going for 550

[ornate condor]

i wouldn't pay over 500 for it lol

for used one I mean

[south cliff]

is it a good card/

foor 500

[ripe spear]

When buying used it is always good to read everything on the page

[ornate condor]

couse theres 3080s for 700-800$ is aviable around

[south cliff]

i only have a 650 watt psu

[ornate condor]

[south cliff]

would it hold a 6800?

and my 12600k/

[ornate condor]

[south cliff]

is 650 enough/

[ornate condor]

if it's A tier maybe

[ripe spear]

650 is the minimum that is recommended

[south cliff]

i only play 1080p to

so it wont draw that much

[ornate condor]

if it's good one it can be enough I guess

[south cliff]

its like a segotep thing

[ornate condor]

check your modell on tier list https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[ripe spear]

If you're only playing games at 1080p why not just aim for a 6600 XT instead?

[ornate condor]

6600xt is eww lol

[south cliff]

because i want a 6800

[ornate condor]

1fps with RT

[south cliff]

its a b teir

[ripe spear]

Well if you want a 6800 i would suggest to upgrade your PSU as a just in case

[south cliff]

my friend has a 1k watt psu so i could steal it from him

he has a 3700x and a gt 710

[ornate condor]

A tier 650w can handle it but lower tiers I doubt

[ornate condor]

lol why

[south cliff]

idk

[ornate condor]

if you can steal it just steal it lol

[ripe spear]

Remember when there was a GPU shortage people only had the option for a GT710 or 1030

[south cliff]

well he didnt know what to buy

[ornate condor]

lol 1030 was for 200$ tho

[south cliff]

he spent a hundernd on it

[ripe spear]

I question that 1000w PSU then

[ornate condor]

igpu is better than 710 lmao

[south cliff]

his dad had it

and gave it to him

[ripe spear]

Maybe his dad knew it has problems for higher end parts

[south cliff]

what?

[ripe spear]

Do you even know what PSU it is

[south cliff]

no

i will ask

[ripe spear]

If it would end up being this one i would worry a little https://www.newegg.com/apevia-prestige-series-atx-rp1000w/p/N82E16817148080

Apervia doesn't have the best rep when it comes to PSU's

[south cliff]

no its not that

if i can remeber

i think it had like a lion on it or smt

[ripe spear]

Is it this https://www.newegg.com/lepa-maxbron-b1000-mb-1000w/p/N82E16817494018

[south cliff]

yep

[ripe spear]

First 2 reviews isn't looking that promising

[frigid night]

Is this accurate? No OCing is being done.

[south cliff]

yeha

[ripe spear]

Some what but also you can't really OC the 6500

[south cliff]

but if there is any problems with my computer when i get my 6800 i will know its the psu

[frigid night]

right, I was just throwing that out there so there was no question that the power draw would have extra ykwim?

[ornate condor]

🔥

I got 850w for 12600k + 3080 aorus master

[ripe spear]

All the good reviews for that PSU seems for systems that could run with a 450w without any problems

[south cliff]

but you thin k my pc would blow up/

[ornate condor]

can you link your current psu ?

[south cliff]

me?

[ornate condor]

yup

[mossy venture]

i ran a 6800xt with a 3600 on an A tier 650

with ocing

[south cliff]

i got a 12600k

[ornate condor]

if it's Atier I think it can handle it

but idk if his psu is a tier or not

[south cliff]

its b teir

[ripe spear]

That RX 580 i would OC/UV it

[mossy venture]

ehh

[south cliff]

https://www.segotep.us/products/cp-psu-st-p650f

[mossy venture]

i wouldnt risk it

[south cliff]

pretty sure its this

[ripe spear]

I never heard of that company

[mossy venture]

its B tier

[south cliff]

well i didnt need anyhting over 650 until now

[ripe spear]

@mossy venture This is the PSU he wants to get off of his friend https://www.newegg.com/lepa-maxbron-b1000-mb-1000w/p/N82E16817494018

[mossy venture]

pls no

[ornate condor]

[south cliff]

i never said i was going to get it

[mossy venture]

that would be the same as attaching a bomb to your pc

[south cliff]

well he got a bomb

[ornate condor]

as close as Gigabyte hazard 750w bomb lol

[south cliff]

so you think i should risk it

[ripe spear]

Well it is your funeral i mean PC

[ornate condor]

got gigabyte hazard 750w from shuffle bundle . I'm glad people here said its blowing up before I installed it lol

[south cliff]

?

[ripe spear]

@ornate condor according to that tier list my PSU is a B

[mossy venture]

what psu

[south cliff]

we know that

[ornate condor]

so it's lil bit risky

[ornate condor]

b tier psu is alright but not for max load

[ripe spear]

This was the PSU i was using before that one lol

[desert gulch]

Wym

B tier is fine

[mossy venture]

thats what i had

[ornate condor]

thermaltake actually have good psus lol but not that smart series I guess lol

[desert gulch]

I just can't reccomend segotep currently since they have a crap ton of variations of the same model and you can't tell them apart until you have them in your hand

It's kinda like buying a sx8200 pro and expecting the performance stated on the sticker

[ripe spear]

I know they have good ones but at the time and budget i had i went for that one which was a Smart 600w but also i was using a 1660

[south cliff]

well hmm

[ornate condor]

for 1660 even 500w is alright

[south cliff]

what should i do/

[ripe spear]

It was on sale for 45$

Canadian

[ornate condor]

I'd say upgrade psu if you can

[ripe spear]

And during that time it was buy that or wait 2 months with no PC

[ornate condor]

I mean its alright for 1660 lol

its not power hungry gpu

[ripe spear]

Ya then i won that SFX PSU and replaced it right away lol

like a year later

[ornate condor]

my dad were using 1660 with D tier 500w psu lmao

[mossy venture]

i had my 3060 ti running on a 500w E tier

[ornate condor]

🔥

[south cliff]

i used to have a 30 dollar psu

[ripe spear]

[south cliff]

i had a i3 9100f and a rx 570

or a i5 2400

cant remember

[ornate condor]

currently have 1200w thermaltake toughpower and hoping it will be enough for 13900k + 4090

[ripe spear]

I had a i5 2500K from 2011 to 2018

[south cliff]

i had a i5 2400 i3 9100f i5 9600k and now a 12600k

[ornate condor]

I don't remember full list lol

[south cliff]

i have never used amd before

[ripe spear]

Oh if i go in the history of CPU's i owned then i had a Pentium II 400MHz, Pentium III 1GHz then a Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz, i5 2500K, Ryzen 5 2600 and now a i5 11400

[ornate condor]

like core 2 duo , i5 2400 , i3 6100, i5 9400 , ryzen 5 3600x , 10600k , 10700k , then 12600k and 12900k I think lmao

[south cliff]

i5 2400 was a beast

[ornate condor]

I dont remember models of core 2 series lol

[south cliff]

well 2500k was

[ornate condor]

2400 is still useful for daily usage lol

[ripe spear]

I remember the frequency of my Core 2 Duo only

[ornate condor]

not for gaming but for regular things

[south cliff]

like gmail

[ornate condor]

movies

or office work

[ripe spear]

Destiny 2 recommended lol

[south cliff]

they only 15 dollars to

[ornate condor]

lol

[south cliff]

i remeber i didnt know how to install windows

[ornate condor]

I remember I played battlefield 4 on 2400 + 1650 build lol

[ripe spear]

You know for 170$ i could of bought a Dell Optiplex with a i7 4790

it had 16gb of memory as well and a 256gb SSD

[south cliff]

not that good

of a deal

[ornate condor]

yeah I dont remember things when I had core 2duo stuff lol

[ripe spear]

GPU though i think was like a HD 64 something

[ornate condor]

I remember my first pc had 1GB of ram lmao

[ripe spear]

So you know i am speaking in Canadian dollars

[south cliff]

oh

[ripe spear]

And also it is a optiplex

[south cliff]

i had a optiplex to

790

[ornate condor]

it was like core 2 duo i dont remember which one , 1gb ram = 512mb gpu lmao

[ripe spear]

Ya but with one that has a 4th gen i7 in it is still very good for modern gaming

Sure you can't really max out the games but still can play on high settings when using something like a GTX 1650 Super

[ripe spear]

https://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?make=Intel&model=Core 2 Duo&type=Desktop Processor This might help you remember

[ornate condor]

probably e6400 lol

maybe e8400

[ripe spear]

I know mine was 2.66GHz i just don't know which one i also did have 4gb of memory and a Asus GT 8600

I played Crysis on that system lol

Game would crash every like 2 hours

[ornate condor]

I think its e6400 couse I see 8400 is released at 2008 but I bought it at 2007 lol

it had one 1gb ram and upgraded it to 3gb later lmao

[ripe spear]

mine would of been 2007 as well cause i remembered i bought WoW Burning Crusades and needed a new system to play it

[ornate condor]

I was literally just 10 years old thats why my dad bought it to me lmao

and you know it was really expensive in my country

[ripe spear]

I have been thinking of buying this for my system and yes i know it would be overkill for my CPU but it is white https://www.amazon.ca/CASTLE-240EX-WH-Technology-Motherboard/dp/B0943WD95Q/

[ornate condor]

white = more fps

[ripe spear]

White + RGB = even more fps

[ornate condor]

I was playing STALKER a lot lol it was out at 2007 as well

first game I was played

still playing it sometimes tho lol

[ripe spear]

The 3 games i was playing back in those days was WoW, Crysis and homefront

I think i might have Stalker on GoG

Wait no i don't lol

[ornate condor]

new stalker gonna release at end of year

[ripe spear]

Wow first stalker

[ornate condor]

it was scheduled for april but delayed till end of year

[ornate condor]

yeah lol

10gb

wow

[ripe spear]

So even the cheapest core 2 duo at like 1.8GHz could play it

[ornate condor]

I dont even remember my gpu lo li think it was something 512mb lol

[ripe spear]

All 3 stalker games are the same system requirements

[ornate condor]

maybe it was 8600gt

[ripe spear]

512 could be a GT 8800

i know that GT 8600 they were 256gb

[desert gulch]

Requirement just means the game will open

[still roost]

clockslice#5770 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

clockslice#5770 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[ripe spear]

Well we witness someone getting banned lol

[desert gulch]

Reccomended/ideal usually give a half playable expirience tho

[ornate condor]

spam ?

[ripe spear]

Those requirements i showed are the minimum lol

[desert gulch]

Ye that's what I mean

Minimum just means it'll open, even if in Seconds per Frame

[ripe spear]

I need to play more CP2077 lol

[ornate condor]

people were using bigass monitors back then in my country lmao

[ripe spear]

I used a LCD monitor i forgot the resolution

[ornate condor]

1440x900

[ripe spear]

I think mine was more like 1024x768 cause it was a 4:3 monitor

[ornate condor]

oh mine was 16;9 i think lol

[ripe spear]

@mossy venture what do you think of these speakers https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0877BPCJM/

I want to go bluetooth on speakers

[mossy venture]

not a clue

i dont know peripherals

[ripe spear]

@ornate condor Do you know anything about speakers?

[ornate condor]

umm I use studio monitors

logitech speakers have good surround I can tell

[ripe spear]

Ya i am using Logitech now but a cheaper model of it which the sound is alright but i was thinking of going for bluetooth so i can play around with the positioning more

[ornate condor]

I dont like bluetooth couse latency lol

[kindred pawn]

If i have a 1050 paired with a r7 5700g should i take my 1050 out

[south cliff]

i mean i could get a 3060 ti

[kindred pawn]

@mossy venture what are the differences between these 2 cards

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00118036

https://www.newegg.ca/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-10g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137686?Description=3080&cm_re=3080-_-14-137-686-_-Product

[vague oracle]

The EVGA one is actually good, MSI one is pretty damn bad

[cursive cipher]

i have a question, why cant this build be assembled with the assembly service, i dont quite understand why some products are off the hook and some are not. https://newegg.io/aaee9dc

[vague oracle]

Oh god, first of all why a 2000 dollar build and only a 3060?

You can easily get a 3080 within that budget

[cursive cipher]

i dont need a 3080, and the mother board is the one from sub 2.5k same with the m.2 drive

[kindred pawn]

how about I get 2 x 8 gb of ram cause i already got 2 x 8, then i buy the ssd, replace my cpu and get the 3080

[vague oracle]

But why waste 2k on a 3060 build? If all you want is a 3060 build then spend a lot less on it

Not a single 3060 build is worth anywhere close to 2k

[stoic island]

Just need to note it's horribly overpriced but most likely something is sold by someone other than Newegg, which means Newegg doesn't hold the stock and therefore they don't have it on hand to build with

[vague oracle]

Honestly imo I’d just get this https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali583/p/N82E16883360218

Or this if you don’t care about open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560-master/p/N82E16883360190R

[cyan ravine]

the ram is probably the only half decent idea in that build if that

actually I got no idea about the monitor tbh, price seems ok

[cursive cipher]

i don't do intel, just personal preference, more so looking for a water cooled pc

[winter marsh]

I finally settled on the perfect case

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[winter marsh]

https://lian-li.com/product/lancool-ii-mesh-rgb/

[rich void]

Oh yes get that one

That's a really good case

[winter marsh]

Big seller was the HD rack slider, so I can make 100mm of space for a front mounted AIO

[ripe spear]

I would recommend if you get that case to get it in black

[winter marsh]

You have no ideal how cramped my old Cougar MX410 is

I intend to from Newegg

[ripe spear]

You have no idea how quick white for that stains lol

[winter marsh]

Yeah I've spilled a few cups of coffee here

Minsc & Boo are suffocating on top of that 1060

[mossy venture]

You realize performance is performance and neither is better.

Just at this moment 12th gen is a better idea since it is cheaper than 5000 series equivelants

Water cooling a low-mid end build is also stupid, it's wasting money on parts that won't utilize it

[winter marsh]

Truth is that AIO isn't enough, I rebuilding in a larger case to cool my Ryzen 5800X3D and fit a Asus TUF RTX 3080

[mossy venture]

That's like saying I only like oak trees and not white oak

5700g also has no place in a build with a dgpu

It loses to a 5600 and costs more

[winter marsh]

@mossy venture I tried using the Asus Fan Expert 4 to tune the AIO, big mistake.

[mossy venture]

I've no clue what that means

[winter marsh]

Actually the 5800X3D beats the 5600X in Cinebench MultiThread, and does wonders for my Star Wars Squadrons game sustaining 144 fps in 1080p max settings on a 1060

[ripe spear]

@mossy venture did someone change your name lol

[mossy venture]

I said 5700g

Ofcourse a 5800x3d beats a 5600x...

It rivals a 12900ks in single core

[mossy venture]

.

Their build list is a 5700g and 3080 10gb

[winter marsh]

Next upgrade after the 3080 is a 32 inch 1440p gaming monitor

[mossy venture]

I feel like you're having a conversation with yourself and I'm just witnessing it

[winter marsh]

And you look like a Brian but who's complaining.

[mossy venture]

I still don't know what anything you've said means

That pfp isn't me if that's what you're talking about

[ripe spear]

For that build i am looking at with the 5700G i honestly would add in another CPU cooler since it comes with a Wraith Stealth cooler which is ok but if he plans on overclocking in the future that will be cooked

[mossy venture]

5700g doesn't have any place in a 3080 build

At all

5600 is cheaper and better

Let alone 12600k

[kindred pawn]

i regret buying my 5700g

[mossy venture]

As you should

Not even worth it over 5600g if doing an apu build

2 extra cores and no other perf gains

[ripe spear]

Id buy a 5700G but only if i was buying the ASRock Deskmini

[mossy venture]

Two more cores that won't be utilized

[winter marsh]

I bought the kids the 5600X and passed down my 3600XT

[obsidian wigeon]

5700G is trash for dgpu build lol

[mossy venture]

Mhm

[obsidian wigeon]

The cache cut severely cuts its perf

[mossy venture]

3600 tier perf

For single core

[obsidian wigeon]

5700X is a thing

[kindred pawn]

What's a dgpu

[mossy venture]

Which is 12600k perf, just more expensive

[obsidian wigeon]

Dedicated gpu

[winter marsh]

Yes but isn't that a cut down 5800X

[mossy venture]

But they don't like to listen to common sense and are dead set on buying amd

[mossy venture]

No

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, but there's barely any perf loss lol

Just a tad less clock speed

[mossy venture]

It's 200mhz slower and maybe 2% worse

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[mossy venture]

Aside from that it's identical

Oh also

It's MUCH cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

It's better to get 5700X than 5800X

[mossy venture]

Can actually be cooled with a decent heatsink

[winter marsh]

I'd like to see a Ryzen 5000XT but that isn't happening

[obsidian wigeon]

Easier to cool, similar perf

And cheaper

[mossy venture]

Whereas 5800x almost requires an aio

[mossy venture]

Would be no point

[south cliff]

on pc part picker my build with the 6800 is only 594 watts

[kindred pawn]

I bought a 5700g cause I didn't think I was gonna use a gpu at first

[winter marsh]

65 watt TDP vs 105 Watt TDP

[mossy venture]

3000xt had no point either, other than a money grab

They were hotter alternatives for very small gains over the non xt versions

3600xt is like 5% better than 3600

[obsidian wigeon]

don't really trust that, a 750w psu is a recc imo

[mossy venture]

3900xt just a hotter 3900x and is maybe 3% better

[winter marsh]

I cool the kids 5600X with leftover FX-8350 Wraith Prism RGB Coolers

[mossy venture]

Spikes exist

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[ripe spear]

tbf though if something was to happen to his GPU at least he could use the 5700G iGPU for the time being until said GPU comes back from being RMA'd

[mossy venture]

But the cpu perf is so much worse

[obsidian wigeon]

at that point

[mossy venture]

Amd igpus have no place in dgpu builds

[obsidian wigeon]

get 12600k lol

[south cliff]

i think ima take my chances

[mossy venture]

12600k is $270 and better

[obsidian wigeon]

if igpu is backup

[mossy venture]

MUCH better

[south cliff]

and stick with my 650 watt

[obsidian wigeon]

it'll do fine

[mossy venture]

That's a stupid choice

[south cliff]

but after maybe 2 weeks then i will buy new

[mossy venture]

But you do you

[obsidian wigeon]

just kinda pushing it

[south cliff]

becasseu im poor

[ripe spear]

If cost is a factor i would go down to a 12400

[mossy venture]

You're poor, but can afford a 12600k and 6800

What

[south cliff]

i have a 12600k

[mossy venture]

12600k is cheaper than 5700g lol

[south cliff]

it took me 3-4 weeks to get

and that was 230 dollars

and now im spending 500-550 on new gpu

now to get that it took me a good 2-2.5 months to get

so i have to wait a good 1-2 weeks so i can get a new psu

[winter marsh]

Ebay has refurbished 850 watt modular Sea Sonic psu's for like 60 bucks

[south cliff]

i want to buy brand new tho

[obsidian wigeon]

refurb psus

sounds like a way to get a bomb lol

[south cliff]

yup

[winter marsh]

Understood, I built like 8 kid gaming rigs so I cut cost where I can

[south cliff]

what's a good psu for like 100-130

[winter marsh]

No new Corsair psu's are bombs

[obsidian wigeon]

um, no

[frank stirrup]

Revo df

[winter marsh]

Every Corsair product I've ever purchased "1 AIO and three PSU" are either dead in the box or a day or so afterwards

[autumn wolf]

bad luck

[south cliff]

is the gskill mb750g a good psu?

[obsidian wigeon]

i have never heard of that

[winter marsh]

Best purchase I ever made was a warrenty so I swapped that defective Corsair for a EVGA model that's been operational since then

[obsidian wigeon]

corsair makes good psus, it's just that your luck didn't do well with that one

they do make some bad stuff, like cv and vs lineup but that's it these days

[south cliff]

what would happen if you buy a psu and its bad and your pc gets fried is it the componanys fault?

[winter marsh]

Maybe Best Buy stocked only crappy Corsair PSU's

[obsidian wigeon]

um, well.. yes

[south cliff]

would they have to pay for it?

[obsidian wigeon]

but you can't do much about it unless their warranty policy covers other parts too

[south cliff]

ahh

[winter marsh]

Actually when Comp USA was in business I bought a bad mobo and psu from them

[south cliff]

what happened after?

[winter marsh]

They made me buy tools and disassemble the pc to test and confirm what I already told them

[south cliff]

Did you get your stuff repaired?

[winter marsh]

So PSU testers became my best friend

Complete replacements

I passed that AM3 FX990 to the kids ages ago after I upgraded to a X570 mobo

[mossy venture]

Get any A tier psu off the tier list pinned in the #cases-psu-and-cooling chat

Mpg, d.f, rm, rmx, earthwatts, leadex iii tend to be my go tos

[strong raft]

G5 is pretty solid also* (price dependent obviously), and get the nutto 10-12 yr evga warranty/service,.

[stoic island]

G6.

It's smth like
G5 <<< G3 < G2 < G6

[strong raft]

yea my bad, meant G6. Funny my near 4 yr old G3 is better than the G5 so I wish it wasn't only a 650w, but oh well.

[junior crescent]

Could someone make a pc list for 1440p ultra gaming for 1600 AUD

[potent portal]

What games do you expect to play at that resolution and detail?

[frank stirrup]

damn @fossil cedar is sleeping on the job

i cant believe hes done this

[potent portal]

Because unless you can get a 3080 for 800 aud that's not likely on games like cp2077 or flight sim

[frank stirrup]

@junior crescent

[potent portal]

If you're just playing CSGO or Fortnite that's much easier

[frank stirrup]

i forget how amd cards are priced in australia

[potent portal]

That's because they're rarely in stock

[potent portal]

Pcpp says 6800 XT for 1169-1200

[frank stirrup]

not awful

[potent portal]

But still 3/4 of their budget

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[frigid night]

I guess we no longer have a Rawr. Oh well, didn't like him anyways...

[frank stirrup]

wow

:(

[strong raft]

vanya now

[potent portal]

Just say the word

[frank stirrup]

Yes do it they were mean to me

:(

oh btw

find the issue here

its a funny issue im ngl

[potent portal]

Pain

[frank stirrup]

itll take you like 2 mins

its just funny

look at front panel

[potent portal]

Can't zoom in enough

[frank stirrup]

there bettr pic

[potent portal]

Pretty sure that's not right lol

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[potent portal]

I know asus FP sucks but come on

[frank stirrup]

they vertical instead of horizontal

mans reset and power buttons be like

mans shorting the speaker to gnd instead of powering pc on

[potent portal]

They've also got the power LED on the HDD pins

[frank stirrup]

lol yeah

mans pretty high level in aorus server as well

[potent portal]

I did that on purpose once. Never again. That's a bright freaking light flashing super fast.

[frank stirrup]

shouldnt be making rookie mistakes like this imo

ALWAYS triple check front panel connectors with mobo manual

[potent portal]

Must have never touched an Asus board before. Their FP header really is bad.

Takes up so much room for no reason at all

[frank stirrup]

i mean it does also clearly say pwr switch there

below a horizontal line

pointing to correct pins

[frank stirrup]

I agreeee

building my asus pc was a nightmare

never again

oh did i tell you about the trash bios update for my b560 tuf?

[potent portal]

No, what happened?

[frank stirrup]

basically if the pc was booted up after it was switched on, it always used to go to asus overclock failed page with the press f(something) to go to bios or press f(something else) to boot default values

but if i went to bios, kept the same values and booted from there, it used to work fine

mind you the only oc i had was a 3600c18 oc for c die

no issues there

reverting to older bios fixed all issues

it was so dumb

literally overclock failed error at jdec too

like bruh show me what oc i have on

then tell me its failed

anyway asus board has been the worst to work with

i will not be buying another one in the future

[potent portal]

Sounds like typical beta bios problems. I avoid that when possible.

[frank stirrup]

bruh their wifi antenna isnt even magnetic

[frank stirrup]

it wasnt a beta bios

it was latest non beta

💀

[potent portal]

Well then their firmware QC sucks, but I guess that's to be expected

I'm just glad I haven't had issues like that with any of my boards. I stick with MSI when possible. They have their own shenanigans, like mine has 3 different overclocking menus that do the same thing, don't update the others, and one is in hex, but I can live with that.

[frank stirrup]

Im gonna stick to gigabyte because thats what im comfortable with

[potent portal]

Gigglebit

[frank stirrup]

My only hands on experience with msi has been with a very very low end board so im not gonna form opinions based off it

[potent portal]

Their good stuff is good, but their not good stuff is awful

Like the aorus boards are actually really nice

But then you have the DS3H

[frank stirrup]

all the hardware ive used

im missing a t600 box

but everything else is there

[potent portal]

The X670 one they announced?

[frank stirrup]

x570 taichi is disappointing tbh

[potent portal]

Ah, yeah that's their higher end stuff without getting too crazy. It's pretty good.

[frank stirrup]

looks wise

[potent portal]

S tier VRMs though

[frank stirrup]

X570

[potent portal]

Intel does not get along with asrock, especially on the low end. Artificially throttling power limits below base spec? WTF

[frank stirrup]

B550

[potent portal]

Also S tier

[frank stirrup]

b550 taichi is hawt

[potent portal]

It is vury nice

[frank stirrup]

asrock mobos for amd are great

for intel severely lacking

[potent portal]

"Great" being relative

[strong raft]

ArseRock

[frank stirrup]

as a whole pretty good

[potent portal]

You can just say Assrock

[frank stirrup]

I dunno what they were thinking here

that looks awful

[potent portal]

They've all got that clock theme going, that one is just too subtle

[frank stirrup]

IMO the best high end amd board rn price to perf wise is this one

[potent portal]

Steel legend aren't terrible on intel at least but still not great

[frank stirrup]

b550 master

hawt

10/10

[potent portal]

Yeah those angles 🥵

[frank stirrup]

its pretty much no compromises as well

its built well and has the feature set and quality of boards that cost twice what it does

look at the io

🥵

[frigid night]

Meh

[potent portal]

Just wait 'til next gen, when we have 14 USB 3.0 ports from the chipset

[frank stirrup]

i know im so excited for it

[potent portal]

And USB 4.0 is going to be a game changer

[frank stirrup]

i mean im still excited for it even if i wont adopt for 3-4 more years minimum

[potent portal]

No but really, what do most people use the USB C ports for? VR headsets. What's holding them back right now? Cable quality and bandwidth.

[frank stirrup]

I dont have a usb c port

:(

[potent portal]

Stick that sheet on what's essentially a USB+TB4 port and you solve both at once

Boom, you've got bandwidth to spare for 4k VR

[frank stirrup]

I will say tho that the one feature intel has over amd is tb

i hope tb comes to amd soon

and not on only very high end boards with add on intel chip

[potent portal]

And that feature is losing it's advantage with the coming of USB 4.0 that includes TB4 in the spec

[frank stirrup]

huh

i didnt know tb4 was a part of usb 4

sheeeeee

[potent portal]

40Gbps max

It's not quite true thunderbolt but it does have the same bandwidth and does support displays

I think they're working on handhelds first now that RDNA2 mobile is a thing, VR will be the logical next step

[frank stirrup]

eh close enough then

appl vr headset soon

RealityOS apple headset best

all other headsets trash

[potent portal]

AlternateRealityOS is what they're living in if they think that'll take off

[frank stirrup]

apple is actually gonna be the one who revolutionised and created vr very soon in an apple event

all other companies are gonna be the ones who copied them many years before they released theirs

because apple moment

[potent portal]

Sounds awfully familiar... Where have I heard that before... OH YEAH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Cybertruck

[frank stirrup]

I mean what did u expect tbh it starts with cyber just like cyberpunk 2077

300$ extra

[potent portal]

"We're going to revolutionize the industry with the first of its kind!"
Doesn't launch until after 6 others have

[frank stirrup]

im talking purely about launch behaviour

[potent portal]

Too little too late, all those refunds didn't turn into re-buys

[frank stirrup]

nothing else

[potent portal]

Skyrim launch day level of wack

[frank stirrup]

im hella hyped for my 6750xt tomorrow

[potent portal]

Nah I'll play it in 2024 when I get it for free on epic

https://tenor.com/view/daumen-daumen-hoch-up-thumbz-cringing-gif-20282758

[frank stirrup]

ive installed control to look at ray tracing

:)

[potent portal]

I installed control and I only get to look at game crash screens

[frank stirrup]

LOL

yeah thats why i instalkled

it looks only marginally different in almost all other games

[potent portal]

For the 5-10 minutes I can play at a time yes, it is a great RT and DLSS showcase

[frank stirrup]

I am sad to see my rx570 go tho im ngl

its been a good run

[potent portal]

Unfortunately even when I dial down settings I get "out of video memory" errors, with a 3080 ti

[frank stirrup]

Time to buy an a6000

[potent portal]

See that's the thing, it's only using 5-6 gb

[frank stirrup]

too little vram

need to go a6000

he has spare kidneys

[potent portal]

Currently yes lol

Might have to go 4090 ti to fix control

[frank stirrup]

truuuu hes an adult, he has adultneys now

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

No

No

No

Definitely not

No it's someone else's problem now

[frank stirrup]

sorry falcie u spammed u gotta mute urself :(

No

[potent portal]

3 times isn't spamming, it's the limit

[frank stirrup]

U cant mute me i have cute cat pfp

thats how it works

Nooooooooo

yes

bananable?

i dont wanna get bananaed

[potent portal]

You can't fool the mods

[frank stirrup]

:(

[potent portal]

We all know it's a car now

[frank stirrup]

yes

ill nae nae and whip on u

ur sus

[potent portal]

Wow tell me how you really feel

Uhuh. Suuuuuure.

[frank stirrup]

My car

[potent portal]

G'night

[frank stirrup]

My car in his garage

[potent portal]

Must have quite a few miles on it

Probably gets the zoomies

[frank stirrup]

yeah hes got like .2 horsepower

great mileage tho

Yeah

r/notlikeothercars

[potent portal]

Built Furred Tough ™

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[frigid night]

Wow lol

[fossil cedar]

I can't believe I've done this

[tender cedar]

i'm thinking about building a gaming pc but I have no experience, budget maybe 1200 dollars or something? I want to be able to play games like csgo, doom, hollow knight well but i'm not sure how much that would cost, any advice for builds?

[potent portal]

You could do a 3060 build for that budget, should do all those nicely.

[strong raft]

Build chat being like gen chat. a bunch tonight :kekw:

[tender cedar]

thanks, any specific builds you would recommend?

[potent portal]

Working on a list now

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mJmH3y

Should be able to play just about anything you toss at it

If you want to cut the budget down a bit you can get a 12400f instead of the 12600k

[tender cedar]

thank you

[fossil cedar]

Your budget is too low for 1440p ultra gaming but this is the best you can do for ~1600 aud
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/RxRbpH

[fossil cedar]

Smh why where you sleeping on job don't need to know off top of head just pcpp it

[frank stirrup]

yis but lazy

[fossil cedar]

Smh

[cyan ravine]

Lol they've been significantly cheaper in aus as of late

[stuck juniper]

are phanteks aios good?

[fossil cedar]

They're fine but not good enough to buy imo

For value/perf, evga aio
For performance arctic liquid freezer (rgb)/ek rgb/lian li galahad

[frank tangle]

Hello

I had a question

What are the average temps for arctic eSports duo with a 5600x?

[fossil cedar]

Look at a review it should give you a rough idea

[frank tangle]

Ok

[strange epoch]

So you guys might know the pc I just built I'm haveing heat issues with my 12600k useing a Thermaltake th240

[mossy venture]

under what load, and what temps are you getting

[strange epoch]

Loading cyberpunk and just driving around is 90-95

[mossy venture]

any oc? and what case?

[strange epoch]

No oc and a p360 airflow this is without glass front panel

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/d2fmP6/evga-clc-280-1135-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-400-hy-cl28-v1 could get this

[strange epoch]

Why

[mossy venture]

and replace the fans with arctic p12s

[mossy venture]

because its a better cooler

[strange epoch]

Thats just not necessary

[mossy venture]

i mean the fans on the aio

also p14s*

might want to try remounting the cooler and redoing the thermal paste

[frigid night]

Wow, that's crazy. I'd suggest repasting and mounting your cooler. What method did you use to paste your heatsink? Also.. did the heatsink come with a thin plastic cover film that maybe you didn't notice and didn't take off?