building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

it's already enabled

[green egret]

But why is the ddr speed 2400

[winter marsh]

then reboot

[obsidian wigeon]

that's base speed

[winter marsh]

that is a safe defult setting every mobo has

[obsidian wigeon]

xmp profile is enabled

you can see profile 1 being listed

[green egret]

Look it says enabled but look top left it says ddr speed is 2400

[obsidian wigeon]

don't worry about it

it's working fine

[green egret]

Nah it’s 2400

[obsidian wigeon]

if it's enabled, it is enabled

[winter marsh]

there is a multiplier involved

[obsidian wigeon]

just check in hwinfo

or cpu-z

[winter marsh]

or cpu z

[obsidian wigeon]

you'll have to download em tho

[green egret]

I did it said like 1239

Really low

[obsidian wigeon]

1239 is base frequency

Before it's doubled

[green egret]

That was in cpu z

[winter marsh]

so image 1239x2

[green egret]

Yeah that’s2400

[obsidian wigeon]

ddr stands for double data rate

[green egret]

My xmp says 3200

[obsidian wigeon]

hmm

that's odd

[winter marsh]

what rate was the memory you purchased?

[green egret]

3200

[winter marsh]

check bios for a XMP 2 or 3 setting, if not try advanced settings or check your owners manual for memory settings

[strong raft]

To double check ram speed just boot and open cpuz or w/e. Don';t need to overthink stuff so much.

[green egret]

Ok I’ll reboot and see

Ok yeah it works

How do I enable the disk1? It’s my other nvme

I gues I need to partition it too?

Ty guys btw

[strong raft]

Yep hit ok and then can use it as storage or w/e. In the past we didn't need to do this for some reason, but w/e. People need to learn, haha.

[green egret]

Yeah you guys are awesome

And seems like fun to

[winter marsh]

Np, yeah Microsoft is nolonger your friend so to speak

[green egret]

I hit ok

But nothing happened

Do I need to make a simple volume

[winter marsh]

Well when you can out tech the Geek Squad, thats fun

[green egret]

I assume

It’s true

Cool I think it worked I created a simple volume and it’s called new volume D:

[strong raft]

should be good, show a newer pic.

[green egret]

Thanks guys you rock

I lied i called it the I drive

500gb I drive to be exact

Cause why not have some fun with it

I’m going to rename the C drive to Games

[strong raft]

idk, I leave C as C for obviously reasons. you can rename any easily though. funny I also have an i drive.

[green egret]

I was going to make it A drive but I was like meh

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/disquette-floppy-disk-gif-6328721

[winter marsh]

My storage drive reads as a Simply Dynamic

[green egret]

Does Microsoft not let you put chrome on the task bar anymore lol

Got it

[strong raft]

[green egret]

Haha

You can’t drag and drop

[winter marsh]

I have it on my toolbar and desktop

[green egret]

Now to download steam and ruin my social life

Or make it better idk which one yet

[strong raft]

taskbar > desktop because 1 click > double click.

[winter marsh]

Ah I Steam victim, I meant user

[green egret]

Hah

Soo true

[strong raft]

sure depends on the month. Sometimes talk a lot and hangout w/ tons of people on discord, then sometimes.... not.

[winter marsh]

You know I can't wait to get even with those Russian ACM players in pvp

Nothing worse then becoming streamed bug food

[green egret]

Wait wait wait download steam and be really cool, download warzone and get angry, download apex lose my free time, download cs:go uninstall it play league 15hrs a day become professional lol player

[winter marsh]

That reminds me I need to do a test play

No those are normal human opponents

[green egret]

Also got to instal the motherboard in my case first so it looks pretty

Goodnight guys!

[winter marsh]

I fight bugs that spit acid, explode, or are bullet proof

[green egret]

It was a pleasure

speaking to you all

[winter marsh]

They crawl on walls or under floors

[green egret]

Oh before I go

[strong raft]

Yes, DL apex to lost free time by pointless "grinding", also rage w/ bad teammates & the whole crappy thing about "BR". I've played a lot of FPS games though, unlimited respawns or at least more play time in each match was much better. banner timer alone is pretty annoying. OVerall it is pretty fun though. I like all the guns. They need to do a firing range sort of mode but let us play on the actual maps.

[green egret]

Who uses GeForce now vs GeForce experience

[strong raft]

For me, neither. I prefer to just set my own settings

[green egret]

How do you update you graphics card

Drivers

[desert gulch]

Depends on gpu

[desert gulch]

Amd drivers are thru the adrenaline app

[green egret]

True

[winter marsh]

okay I was scared offline

[green egret]

Damn my new comp is great.. I hate the psu it has coil whine

[winter marsh]

locked in at 62 fps and too much clarity to walk in solo

[green egret]

Or fan making noise or something

[winter marsh]

coil whine? hmmm how good are you at wire management

anything loose in there can rub up against a fan

[green egret]

Idk yeah it’s something in there

It sounds like something is buzzing in there

Something is loose maybe

Wow it’s so much worse in this video omg lol

But yeah it’s rly annoying

I should get it rma’d

[strong raft]

If coil whine, might be from psu but it's generally caused by gpu. Frame cap can be a big help. I do a global cap of 480fps through afterburner because it's the quick way, and a 170fps cap in most games because my new monitor is 165hz. As for drivers I'll share my usual choices. arrow marks my current one. no point for me getting latest & I got a nice one that is a "clean" setup that's 1/2 the DL size of the nvidia.com drivers.

[green egret]

Do u hear it

I don’t know if that’s coil whine

Sounds more like a buzzing to me

[strong raft]

I hear it. how much of a load?

[green egret]

Nothin lol

It just sounds like that no matter what

When it turns on

So happy with my comp btw. Downloading warzone 89gb file in 15min

I wonder how long it will take to install it

I told Newegg right when I got it but didn’t want to wait for another psu and they wanted me to send it back before I got a new one

My loss

Oh well. The cpu they sent me works great and the customer service guy honored the $10 promo even tho it didn’t work on my app

[obsidian wigeon]

Coil whine is non issue

If it's not too loud that is

[potent portal]

Some people are more sensitive to high pitch sounds than others

[obsidian wigeon]

true

[frank stirrup]

I enjoy coil whine

i like how it sounds

[flint sapphire]

Coil whine enthusiast

[obsidian wigeon]

coil whine is very quiet for me

at least for my laptop

[green egret]

Why is this skipping

[obsidian wigeon]

it only makes tiny little coil whine

[frank stirrup]

some people whine more than the coils about coil whine im ngl

[flint sapphire]

I usually just wrap my entire pc in insulation foam and then I can’t hear it at all!

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

and have cpu at 100c

[flint sapphire]

Yeah it’s weird it suddenly turns off after about 12 minutes

[green egret]

And what the hell is this

Is this gpu issues

[flint sapphire]

Yeah that looks like gpu issues

[green egret]

Fuq

RMA??

[flint sapphire]

The skipping might be because of tht shader download

Restart the game and your pc before jumping to conclusions

[green egret]

Ok I think it’s my gpu though

[flint sapphire]

What gpu is it?

[green egret]

3060ti auros

Should I just try benchmarking it

[flint sapphire]

Can run 3dmarks stress test see if it dies 🤷‍♂️

[green egret]

Does it do graphics

So I can see if something is just wrong

[flint sapphire]

It’ll basically check if it’s stable and if there’s any errors

[green egret]

Like doesn’t cinebench do mmmmm make something

[flint sapphire]

Can grab it on steam or online

[green egret]

Ok

Maybe it’s just the lobby messed up

[flint sapphire]

I’m not to familiar with dying gpus tho, I’m sure someone else in here has a bit more experience

It’s probably just a glitch

[green egret]

I’m gona run a match

Yeah it’s prob a glitch it’s working fine it looks like otherwise

[flint sapphire]

Warzone isn’t exactly known for being not a glitchy mess

[green egret]

Ok it just froze right when I landed

And says 142fps but my monitor is only 60fps

[flint sapphire]

Begone demon

[green egret]

Can it be the fps is messed up or something

[flint sapphire]

Yeah 6 nails one foot isn’t natural

[green egret]

Ok it’s frozen and I can’t exit the game it won’t let me alt tab out

[strong raft]

hey wakamoly

[green egret]

Or alt f4

[strong raft]

ctrl alt delete then do task manager

[flint sapphire]

Waka look through your settings quick disable any rt that might be on and just lower settings

Or tht

[green egret]

Not working

[flint sapphire]

Alt f4 it is

[green egret]

Not letting me get to task manager

Not doing anything

I signed out and signed back in ok

[winter marsh]

GAME CRASHED?

[green egret]

Yeah

Is that from my gpu

[winter marsh]

Sorry for Caps got nailed by STO's interface again lol

[green egret]

Look at the vid I posted

[flint sapphire]

Rommy why do you want my pc all of a sudden anyways? Did rawr show you that quick benchmark I did for him?

[green egret]

Wtf it’s askin me to run the game in safe mode

[flint sapphire]

Yeah since it didn’t shut down correctly it’ll do that

[strong raft]

[green egret]

Ok I’m trying it

[frank stirrup]

just reverts all settings to what it thinks is good nothing else afaik

[green egret]

Ok hope it doesn’t crash again otherwise I need to RMA it I guess ?

My fps is going crazy up to 250 fps but it’s just a 60hz monitor

[flint sapphire]

Do a stress test on 3dmark or something before you assume the worst

[green egret]

Ok

[winter marsh]

Could be a Direct X issue but I haven't seen that in a long time

[green egret]

Alright it’s working For now

I disabled some options

[winter marsh]

@green egretLoading screen fps or in game?

[green egret]

Anti aliasing

[green egret]

In game I have 180fps

But 60fps monitor

[flint sapphire]

The menu’s usually have some shader downloads which can cause the game to pause and skip.

But the black square of death is usually a issue with a gpu or the game itself

[green egret]

Kk phew

[winter marsh]

180 on a 60 fps monitor?

[flint sapphire]

180fps on a 60hz refresh rate monitor

[green egret]

K getting weird black screens

Like the vid I posted

I’m just gona post it again

[winter marsh]

I'm gonna be in and out while behaving like a responsible adult

[green egret]

So this just happened when I jumped out of a house in a match

But I ram away and it is fine

This game is crazy lol

I think it can be the monitor too or no…

[flint sapphire]

It’s not that’s a graphics card issue most likely

Maybe drivers or a direct x issue

[frank stirrup]

what gpu?

[flint sapphire]

3060ti

Auroras he said

[green egret]

Yeah it’s just sometimes the screen is getting black and I have to move my mouse around rly fast so it goes away

[flint sapphire]

Have you updated your drivers

[green egret]

Yeah I just did

[flint sapphire]

Was it working fine before the driver update?

[green egret]

Nah I haven’t tried with others

[winter marsh]

Is Win11 still a lil wacky in gaming or did they fix that already?

[green egret]

In tight spots everything just becomes black

[flint sapphire]

Should be fine… don’t have to much experience with it though just built my first win 11 machine

[green egret]

This game is sick

Besides the whole screen getting black

[winter marsh]

I don't know, the 1st time I took a free upgrade from 7 to 10 it it turned my PC into a kiosk

[strong raft]

That's why you never do the "upgrade", or never get a newer Windows version within 3 months of release, but that's just me.

[winter marsh]

I had no usb support so no mouse or keyboard functional

I only started using Win10 when I was able to purchase Win10 Pro OEM Disc for 25 bucks a pop off Ebay

[frank stirrup]

ddu

@green egret

[winter marsh]

I still my Win7 OEM's so if it didn't workout I could go back

[frank stirrup]

https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[frank stirrup]

that key works on win 10 and 11

[strong raft]

Someday this server might have the setups where we can type /ddu or w/e and a bot will post that link for ya. 😄

[flint sapphire]

One day

[frank stirrup]

@celest horizon pls add https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU to a !ddu command

[winter marsh]

Another useful application

[strong raft]

yea like so

[frank stirrup]

eh patos guide can just be linked

maybe my batch file could have a command too

ill bring it up with the techies

[strong raft]

yea w/e whether it's a link botted in w/ ! ddu command or somethin. Don't have any bots on my personal server so no idea how much work it is, and someone would have to feel like enabling something something.

[desert gulch]

!ddu

smh forks hasnt added yet

[frank stirrup]

forky probs napping

[strong raft]

then also perhaps might as well make it do this link specifically, lol https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[desert gulch]

did pato die?

@frank stirrup what happened to him

[frank stirrup]

Nothing

why?

[desert gulch]

looks like he died

unfortunately

[frank stirrup]

LOL

wrong pato smh

[desert gulch]

nah

both irish

that pic looks like him

both boomers

therefore, same person

[frank stirrup]

no no our pato is hotter

[desert gulch]

"our" 💀

he's mine

[flint sapphire]

Says the communist?

https://tenor.com/view/sus-suspect-among-us-gif-18663592

[green egret]

What is that

[desert gulch]

im just a mr12

[desert gulch]

display driver uninstaller

[green egret]

It will fix this issue?

[desert gulch]

basically uninstalls gpu drivers

[green egret]

That’s it tho

Is that the fix or is it something else

[desert gulch]

no way to know for sure

thats the fun of troubleshooting

its a great place to start tho

[green egret]

I’m going to 3Dmark bench it

[strong raft]

ddu does much more, it finds and removes any old driver junk. if you get video glitches in other games, then ddu is worth a try

[green egret]

Does it matter which bench I choose?

Fire strike

Ice storm

[strong raft]

Timespy

[flint sapphire]

Do a direct x 12 stress test timespy

It’ll run for like 30 minutes and end if anything weird happens

[green egret]

Is that on steam

[flint sapphire]

It comes with 3dmark

[green egret]

3Dmark is $29

[strong raft]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/223850/3DMark/

[flint sapphire]

Rip

[green egret]

Wth

Is there. Free one

Is cinebench free

[strong raft]

[desert gulch]

cinebench free yes

[flint sapphire]

Cinebench is a cpu bench tho

[desert gulch]

but cinebench is cpu

ye

[green egret]

Oh wait 3Dmark fire strike is free

[flint sapphire]

Trying to find issues with your cpu

[desert gulch]

timespy is too...

[green egret]

I thought timespy@is in 3Dmark

[flint sapphire]

Timespy should be

[strong raft]

oops

[desert gulch]

CHILLLLLLLLLLLL

[flint sapphire]

The download demo button he’s pointing at

Kinda sus

[strong raft]

sticky keys turned on.

[desert gulch]

lmfao

[green egret]

I don’t even see download demo in my steam and I have a free fire mark bench but it won’t download lol

[strong raft]

show a pic if you'd like, haha.

[green egret]

Ok. Where is a fre one

Not 3D mark

[flint sapphire]

…

[strong raft]

perhaps unigine superposition.

[green egret]

So I can see if it has the black screen

[flint sapphire]

Unigine would be fine

[green egret]

Ok

So I run it and it shows if there are errors

Pretty big file guys

[flint sapphire]

It’s a test bench scene

[green egret]

Damn only 2gb but taking 3 min to download

[flint sapphire]

It’s got lots of assets with lots of polygons

[green egret]

So what should I watch out for

[flint sapphire]

It crashing or any artifacts

[green egret]

Will the black spots come

[flint sapphire]

It’s not gunna tell you much

[green egret]

Are artifacts black spots

[flint sapphire]

Maybe

They can be

It’s just a weird graphic error that shows up while trying to display some 3d scene… well actually they can just show up.

Usually a sign of a bad driver or a gpu issue like we’ve been saying

[green egret]

Hope so

Idk if that’s permanent damage

[strong raft]

artifacts aka glitches in the video that just doesn't look right. Could be your gpu itself, or maybe ddu would fix the warzone issue, hard to say. running ddu would be good.

[green egret]

Ok how long does it take

I have to sleep soon

I’m going to download apex and see if there’s anything glitching too

Someone told me it was a game glitch it happens to them too

[desert gulch]

glitches in the video can be a sign of failing vram

[winter marsh]

So a broken game update

You could try Valley Benchmark

[green egret]

It’s prob the failing vram

[desert gulch]

Heaven is another decent benchmark to try

it stresses vram fairly heavily

[green egret]

I’m trying unigine

[desert gulch]

ah aight

[green egret]

Graphics test rn

[desert gulch]

good

[green egret]

It’s ok if steam is downloading apex in the background rigt

[desert gulch]

imma go write an essay so ill let someone else help

[green egret]

Ok I’m getting a lot of artifacts

[winter marsh]

Both are good at testing cards, I used to have Final Fantasy Bench

[green egret]

This is bad right

Little glitches everywhere

[frank stirrup]

Did u ddu?

[green egret]

Nah

Not yet

How long does it take

[frank stirrup]

5 mins

[green egret]

Also when I ddu do I need to download the latest driver again

Ok can u send instructions again plz

Can I screw something up while doing it

[winter marsh]

Did you delete it from DL folder?

[green egret]

Huh

What’s that mean

I think unigine just froze

[winter marsh]

download folder

[green egret]

Delete what from download folder

[frank stirrup]

nope scroll up

[green egret]

Kk

Unigine crashed

[winter marsh]

Drivers you installed, or did you got thru GF Now or GF Experience?

[green egret]

GeForce experience

[winter marsh]

Okay just reinstall from that

[green egret]

I’ve got the latest game ready drivers

[potent portal]

When you DDU GeForce experience gets deleted too though

[green egret]

It’s fine I’ll redownload it

[winter marsh]

Sometimes I get lazy and DL drivers directly

[green egret]

My gpu will still work though

At least

Was the unigine benchmark bad?

Were those the artifacts?

You were talking about

I’m gona run apex and see if I get errors

I rly need to sleep

Damn

Btw this can’t be my ram can it

Ok sry a lot of msgs. I think it’s a game error. Apex is running ok right now

[winter marsh]

bad ddr typically wont allow a pc to boot at all

[frank stirrup]

maybe

what was this gpu used for previously?

[green egret]

Ok Nevermind apex just crashed. Here’s a pic @frank stirrup

They told me to ddu it also

[winter marsh]

I got a PNY 1060 with a bad dvi port but runs fine on any other connection

[frank stirrup]

so why do u keep ignoring this

[green egret]

cause i just didnt car but i do now

[frank stirrup]

probably vram damage then

tbh

[green egret]

yea prob overheating

[frank stirrup]

did u mess with voltages at all?

[green egret]

i can rma it

[frank stirrup]

anyway go rn ddu rn

[desert gulch]

did you undervolt it at all?

[green egret]

nope i only oc'd it

and it was brand new from the guy

[desert gulch]

thats bad for mining

[green egret]

i saw ship date and everything

[desert gulch]

mining youre looking to undervolt usually

[green egret]

i didnt undervolt

[desert gulch]

i know

[winter marsh]

most manufacturers will rma anything if you are willing to pay the shipping cost

[green egret]

oh

[frank stirrup]

I dont think gigabyte transfers warranty

so u cant rma under warranty

[green egret]

it wasn't used though

no it wasnt used

no one registered it

[frank stirrup]

yeah there u go

second hand

[still roost]

wakamoly#4570 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[winter marsh]

I've rma'd old model mobo's from Asus, and MSI

[green egret]

shoot

[frank stirrup]

it was in his hands

then it was in urs

[green egret]

hopefully the ddr will work

otherwise i can repad it

[winter marsh]

both clearly refurbished hardware

[desert gulch]

repad it why?

[green egret]

it's prob vram

idk

[desert gulch]

if vram is failing, repad wont do anything

[green egret]

oh

ill prob hav to contact him

and see if he's willing to help me

[desert gulch]

only way to fix failing vram would be trying fix physical defects on the card

like a broken SMD cap or something

[winter marsh]

Expecially that old Asus Mobo I never could get to work right

[green egret]

so my gpu is basically f'ed

[frank stirrup]

i mean i think this is just heavy degradation on the vram module itself

[desert gulch]

yeah

[green egret]

im gona try running apex 1 more time

[desert gulch]

in which case youd have to replace the whole vram chip(s) which is a huge pain and probs not worth

[frank stirrup]

so only fis is desolder and reball new modules

[green egret]

how do i get msi overlay

[desert gulch]

rivatuner

[frank stirrup]

useless waste of time

[green egret]

how do i unable it

ok so what should i do then

[frank stirrup]

ddu however could help

if u stopped ignoring lmao

[green egret]

lol

[frank stirrup]

just go run ddu

[green egret]

kk idk how to do it

it's so much work omg

[frank stirrup]

I linked a guide

[desert gulch]

ddu is MUCH MUCH less work than replacing vram modules

[winter marsh]

I am gonna be illresponsible again and play another round of STO before bed

[green egret]

apex is glitching out

if i click somewhere on the screen it minimizes it

ok so i download DDU

[frank stirrup]

Oh damn its almost like we knew

[green egret]

then i run in safemode

[frank stirrup]

run ddu

[green egret]

and then re-download drivers in safe mode or regular mode

[frank stirrup]

guide has been linked a few times

[green egret]

ok

[frank stirrup]

its also pinned in #windows-ios

[green egret]

i am on the DDU website but i do not see where the download link is

i'm on wagnardsoft.com

[frank stirrup]

https://www.wagnardsoft.com/DDU/download/DDU v18.0.5.1.exe

[green egret]

wait if i downlaod it then i run windows in safe mode right

[frank stirrup]

yes

[green egret]

ok so downlaod it.. then safe mode.. then install it.. then regular mode and download drivers again

[frank stirrup]

yes

[green egret]

and it says dont connect to the internet

[frank stirrup]

read the guide man

[strong raft]

[flint sapphire]

[strong raft]

Like pullin teeth.

[autumn wolf]

same

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-migraine-stressed-out-charlie-day-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-15254012

[potent portal]

Only possible if the mining was on that same PC

DDU will fix that too

[strong raft]

changing AB profile or exiting would also possibly not use the mining settings, btw they're getting a bit of help on another server. idk about you but I'm done.

[green egret]

I’m gona go to sleep

Ty for all the help

I will ddu tomorrow when I get the chance to

[humble fossil]

no I didn’t

[fossil cedar]

Fat rip

[humble fossil]

it’s good?

and what case h500 white or black?

[fossil cedar]

No h212 is bad, bad motherboard cooler case and power supply choices

[humble fossil]

i will change it

[humble fossil]

why the mobo and psu

[fossil cedar]

Badly priced

Way too expensive

[humble fossil]

I found it 158$

[fossil cedar]

That's ntb

[humble fossil]

oh that’s used

it’s 270$

[fossil cedar]

That's awful

[humble fossil]

and the other one is 160$

the f model

[frank stirrup]

ouch dont get this at all

none of the parts selection is great

[humble fossil]

like what

[frank stirrup]

left is terrible

right is bad for total budget

[humble fossil]

i will change cooler

why ram

[frank stirrup]

corsair ram is garbage tier

[humble fossil]

why

[frank stirrup]

u can get much faster ram for that much

[frank stirrup]

it just sucks

also failure is higher

[humble fossil]

i will change case and cooler

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

better ram

[humble fossil]

And ram

why psu

[frank stirrup]

that power supply is overpriced like crazy too

its worth half what ur list has it at

[humble fossil]

u will see gold

[frank stirrup]

and that mobo is worth 150 on a good day

[frank stirrup]

ok so?

[humble fossil]

i * sorry

[fossil cedar]

They in Saudi so they might be converting but still big ouch

[humble fossil]

i can from Amazon us

[frank stirrup]

its big dum to go behind platinum certification anyway

[humble fossil]

buy

[frank stirrup]

it adds nothing

[fossil cedar]

Ik that

Bonk

[humble fossil]

1670$ its good for that

[frank stirrup]

ik uk i just saying

[frank stirrup]

that pc is worth 1.4k max

[humble fossil]

and uk have good prices

[frank stirrup]

in the form its in rn

[humble fossil]

can u build please?

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N7Bqd9

[humble fossil]

thx

I don’t want rx

[deft solar]

i bought 999$ of mac

[frank stirrup]

stop spamming a message in every channel whenever u come on

u dont get any exp that way

the bot doesnt work like that

lmao

[analog pulsar]

Hi

[stuck juniper]

Can someone make me pcpartpicker list 1500$ white build

[fossil cedar]

Gaming?

[stuck juniper]

Mostly

School, gaming, very light editing

[fossil cedar]

Mkay

@stuck juniper https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fPvR4s

[little osprey]

Im a first time pc builder and was wondering if anyone could look at my part list and tell me if there there is anything wrong with it. I will mainly be using it for Gaming, Editing and 3D Modeling. (buget $2350)
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Choy978/saved/#view=kK9wYJ

[stuck juniper]

There are cheaper 70ti’s

[little osprey]

its basicly a place holder

[stuck juniper]

Ah

[little osprey]

i live neer a mirco center

probably buy it there

[mossy venture]

One second

[little osprey]

ok

[mossy venture]

What's your budget?

[little osprey]

2350

[mossy venture]

And do you plan to oc the cpu?

[little osprey]

probably not

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCkDwc

Ddr5 isn't worth it atm, 12700f same as stock 12700k, z690 not worth if not ocing, psu is overpriced

[little osprey]

how big of a difference does oc make

[mossy venture]

Not much for casual use

[little osprey]

ok

thx for your help

[mossy venture]

Np

[fossil cedar]

Btw this is better and 300$ cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPdqd9

Maybe grab the hdd bacca suggested if you want

[desert gulch]

Isn't rev df still cheaper?

I'm a bit iffy on amp with higher transient

[fossil cedar]

No rev df is 122

Amps fine

[mossy venture]

Isn't amp a tier too?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[ripe spear]

Just saying but if his budget is 2350$ wouldn't a single 4tb NVMe be better then?

[fossil cedar]

4tb isn't needed by most also expensive usually

[ripe spear]

One from Adata i saw is 399

Little more than double than the one you picked out

Anyways was just going off that guys original build since he had a 1tb nvme and a 2tb HDD

[little osprey]

probably what i will do

[ornate condor]

4tb ssd price = 3x 2tb ssd price

[fossil cedar]

Was it a good one tho

[ripe spear]

It was this one i was looking at https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n6bCmG/adata-xpg-8100-4-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-asx8100np-4tt-c

[fossil cedar]

That's a pretty low end drive

[ripe spear]

Gen4 i would go for this for myself https://www.newegg.com/team-group-4tb-t-force-cardea-z44q/p/N82E16820331737?quicklink=true

[mossy venture]

yeah, at that point id get an 870 evo (i think thats the name?) and a smaller nvme ssd for boot

[ripe spear]

All of my SSD's in my system is Team Group

[mossy venture]

ive got an intel ssd that ive never touched, and a low end pny ssd from a pre built

hgst hdd

[ripe spear]

My boot drive is using a 512gb of this one https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/product/mp33

[fossil cedar]

Or could get 2x us70 for 380 if you really needed that much

[ripe spear]

And 2x1tb of this https://www.teamgroupinc.com/en/product/l5-lite-3d

Had those since like 2018 and still going on strong

[mossy venture]

ive got too much storage

i use maybe 2tb and i have 5.5

[ripe spear]

But i want to replace one of the 2.5 with a 2tb-4tb nvme

Total storage i have 6.5tb because i have a 4tb HDD i use for files

[little osprey]

i got
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=st1000dm003-1er162&adgrpid=1330409634317392&hvadid=83150673192068&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=79323&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83150948729519%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=18008_10500485&tag=mh0b-20&ref=pd_sl_8706vp44j1_e

[mossy venture]

the 4tb hdd i got i got for like $60

before it i was using a random 2tb external that i now use with my laptop

[little osprey]

nice

[mossy venture]

but i really dont use it much

[ripe spear]

mine was 70$ Canadian

[mossy venture]

the 512gb 660p i have i also got for free

i mean

i did that too

rommy

[ripe spear]

He said he did that was well lol

[mossy venture]

i got a p360a today

for $60 after $20 mir

its white so itll stand out like a sore thumb, but nice case

and idc about looks

[frank stirrup]

I ate my 660p

[mossy venture]

no, you ate your thermalpaste

[ripe spear]

That is if you do the mir after

[mossy venture]

why would i not

[ripe spear]

My case is also white lol

Rommy have you seen my PSU lol

Yep

Had to buy this to make it work

But i like having a SFX PSU now cause it gives me more options for future builds

[mossy venture]

ive got an mitx board, it looks tiny in my case lol

my cable management is also non existent

[ripe spear]

Meaning if i ever go for a ITX build in the future i don't have to worry about the PSU

[mossy venture]

im not sure if im going to rebuild in the p360a yet or wait till i buy a new cpu

but like

effort

[ripe spear]

This was taken like 6 months ago before i fixed up my top fans

[mossy venture]

might also be swapping mobo though

so id have to rebuild if i do

meaning why possibly rebuild twice

[ripe spear]

I got lazy with some of the cables lol

[mossy venture]

i also want to leave this build mostly in tact for a cousin or smthn

ye

i forgot i was going to give this to a cousin afterwards

or sell it, not sure yet

[analog pulsar]

@bitter mason i have a question about water cooling so if you buy an aio you cant take that apart right ? like remember how we we talked about arctic only using 19mm rad

[desert gulch]

correct

you cant take apart an aio

[analog pulsar]

so to buy a bigger radiator you need to rad and tubes and cpu block

[desert gulch]

bigger rad than a 420 lf2 would be custom looping

so pump, reservoir, tubing, radiator, block, etc

Quite expensive

[analog pulsar]

i mean thicc rad

[desert gulch]

lf2 is the thiccest rad i know of

good luck

[analog pulsar]

@desert gulch I was just thinking of buying a thicc 360 rad and putting it on cpu

[desert gulch]

just buy liquid freezer ii

[analog pulsar]

is ek okay

[desert gulch]

yeah

ek makes good stuff

[analog pulsar]

Do you know what's the difference

I was thinking about buying a Y60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfsG-Ai2PA&t=825s

He said 360 aio can fit on top

[desert gulch]

p sure its just the fans

[potent portal]

The Elite is not worth the extra fans. It's just push/pull and it gets you maybe 1-2 degrees better.

[analog pulsar]

Oh

[potent portal]

Unless you were going to take the extra fans and put them on your case

But even then... not worth

[analog pulsar]

No I was just wondering what difference is if it's nothing them I'll stick with regular 360mm

lol big

Gamer nexus recommended lain li o11 over hyte Y60

sheeeeesh 10 fans

[ornate condor]

I want keys like that

But I'm too lazy to move it to new case lol

[analog pulsar]

sheeeeesh

so pretty

[ornate condor]

Too dark

I want do this lol

Another beautiful one

[analog pulsar]

Royal ram

[ornate condor]

I had royals

They're pretty looking

[sand falcon]

Throwing out that there's not really that much difference between a 280mm rad and 360mm rad with everything else held constant

[ornate condor]

My build I mean old build . Btw Gundam Monitor looks amazing

[frank delta]

I had royals in one my builds they’re nice but man they get finger prints easily

[bitter mason]

There may be more exceptions but I think generally AIOs are not designed to be taken apart. The only exception I know of is that alphacool AIO that has that feature where you can add parts to the loop. I think if you disassemble an AIO you'll void the warranty

[analog pulsar]

oh

[analog pulsar]

huh

[ornate condor]

Why would you disassemble aio lol

[analog pulsar]

yea

[bitter mason]

Pretty sure it comes apart there so you can add like gpu block, ram block, or whatever else

I hope the stock pump on that thing is powerful lol

because ram block, gpu block, & cpu block is probably a whole lot harder on a pump than just cpu

[ornate condor]

Getting custom loop is better idea in that point lol

[analog pulsar]

talk about warranty LOL

warranty void sticker

[bitter mason]

Damn they're tempting you to void it lol

Custom loop isn't thaaat hard. It's probably fairly easy if you do soft tubing

[analog pulsar]

🤔

ay i like this MOBO

OMG AMAZING

[left storm]

holy 900 for a mobo

damn

[ornate condor]

[left storm]

0-0 AUUUUUUGH

[analog pulsar]

Any reason why arctic 420 and 420 A-RGB disappear from pcpartpicker

[desert gulch]

Probs cause your case in there no workey with them

Take out the case and try it again

[analog pulsar]

No I deleted case and still no show

[desert gulch]

Lemme see if I can find

[analog pulsar]

Maybe I gotta refresh page

[desert gulch]

Shows up for me

[potent portal]

Do they come back if you disable compatibility filter

[desert gulch]

But I also had no cooler or cpu

So idk

[tough jungle]

I literally sent the link

It's still on there

[analog pulsar]

I see now

[earnest olive]

@neon condor the locked i5 on the apex lmao

you're probably hurting that board's feelings

[stoic island]

or the board is just taking a vacation

[earnest olive]

that case unironically looks better for airflow than half the cases on the market now

[winter marsh]

I'm shopping for a new 2k gaming monitor and have two choices

[earnest olive]

double side intake

[winter marsh]

ASUS TUF Gaming 32" 1440P Gaming Monitor (VG32AQL1A) - QHD (2560 x 1440), IPS, 170Hz, 1ms, Extreme Low Motion Blur Sync, FreeSync Premium, 99% DCI-P3, DisplayPort, HDMI, USB Hub, DisplayHDR 400

Or this Z-EDGE UG30 30" Ultrawide 21:9 WFHD 2560x1080 200Hz 1ms Curved Gaming Monitor, FreeSync, HDR10, 2 x HDMI + DisplayPort + USB, with RGB Light, VESA Mountable, Built-in Speakers

[potent portal]

Might I suggest https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093MFKDLP

[winter marsh]

@potent portalI can't shop on Amazon....

[ripe spear]

You can use that link as a reference though to see the specs of the monitor and see if the cost would be better for you

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8snypg/lg-32gp850-b-320-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-32gp850-b

[winter marsh]

Thats a much better price offer

[potent portal]

Rtings has it listed as one of their best gaming monitors in the size category https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gp850-b

[analog pulsar]

what case

[earnest olive]

bryce's in build pics

[analog pulsar]

oh

[winter marsh]

The cases I pick are horrible for air flow

I picked them only because they are Antec

[rich void]

why?

[jagged ember]

why do you pick only by the brand?

[mossy venture]

Both of those cases look meh at best

I will never understand brand loyalty

[rich void]

They always pick really bad cases for (as far as I can tell) unknowable reasons

[mossy venture]

Antec has some alright cases

Those just aren't some of them

[rich void]

I'm saying that person always picks bad cases

Last time it was bad Cougar cases or something

[analog pulsar]

Is tomahawk mobo good

[cyan ravine]

Sure

[mossy venture]

I prefer hatchet mobo

Depends on what cpu you want to run on it

But I believe generally they're decent

[analog pulsar]

Is there any issued with vrm running hot at all

[mossy venture]

Not saying I'd run a 5950x on a tomahawk b450

[cyan ravine]

Depends on the combo

[mossy venture]

Again, depends on the cpu running in it

[analog pulsar]

Someone said edge mobo bad bc of vrm

[analog pulsar]

I7 12700k

[mossy venture]

It'll be fine

Wouldn't be my first choice in mobos, since there's cheaper with same quality, but seeing as you're going for looks it works

[analog pulsar]

Does it have good OC range

[mossy venture]

You sure you want to get into ocing for the 5-10% boost in performance you'll gain

[analog pulsar]

Idk

[mossy venture]

I would just get a 12700f and whatever b660 you think looks good

That isn't asrock

[cyan ravine]

/biostar

[analog pulsar]

Sheeesh same price also I habe tax inabled so that's why it's looks weird

[cyan ravine]

If I had to choose between the 2, the MSI one will likely fair better

Oh wait b660 nvm

[analog pulsar]

Lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jayson1156/saved/nXJyWZ

O11 has cooling on top right

Wait nevermind

[cyan ravine]

Ram and case is pretty expensive but the build looks fine

[analog pulsar]

I remember now

[analog pulsar]

Well ram is just $20 for royal so why not

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it does, top bottom side, front (if nothing in the way)

It doesn't come with fans though so you might want a 5 pack of P12's or something like that

<1st-hand experience

[analog pulsar]

Does p12 have rgb

[cyan ravine]

They have an rgb version yes, costs a bit more though

[mossy venture]

If you're going b660, just get a 12700f

It performs the exact same as a 12700k

[cyan ravine]

She did

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine did you know they have a O11 Evo and 011 version
Difference is you can have 1 more fan on side

[cyan ravine]

The preview is borked

[mossy venture]

He*

[cyan ravine]

Oh

[mossy venture]

Also ah ok

[cyan ravine]

My b

Sorry

[analog pulsar]

Yea idk why preview broken

[mossy venture]

Wasn't an offended correction, just a correction

[cyan ravine]

I still think it's right I say it 😅

[mossy venture]

Yeye

[analog pulsar]

@mossy venture do you think 16GB is usable

[mossy venture]

Personally I'd rather 32gb 3200c16 over high speed 16gb

[analog pulsar]

Reason I ask is bc I saw you can get faster speeds with 16GB

[mossy venture]

16 is a big limitation on such a high end rig

[analog pulsar]

Well we at 4000mhz rn at 18CL with 32GB

[analog pulsar]

Yea ig that's true

[mossy venture]

Can get 32gb 3200c16 for $100

[analog pulsar]

Is it rgb

[mossy venture]

One sec

[analog pulsar]

Also idk people say faster ram better

For Intel and amd

[cyan ravine]

For $60 more you can get silicon power 4x16 with rgb

[analog pulsar]

Send link

[mossy venture]

Cheapest rgb kit I could find https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6KgPxr/gskill-tridentz-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzsw

[mossy venture]

4 sticks more stressful on imc tho

[mossy venture]

It is, was just giving an option

[cyan ravine]

Only 3200 tho

[mossy venture]

Though I wouldn't run over 3800mhz on amd

[mossy venture]

Eh, not a huge difference compared to 4000c18

[cyan ravine]

Isn't 4x16 cheaper than 2x32?

[mossy venture]

Nothing an oc wouldn't make up

Oh that's what you meant

I believe kenzie decided he's not going to be running as many vms, right?

[cyan ravine]

Oh no these would be better choice than what I suggested kenzie

[analog pulsar]

Yea

[mossy venture]

Then I would def go 32gb

Whether you want to spend the extra on 3600c16 of 4000c18 is up to you

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

[mossy venture]

How much of a diff it'll be is not a question for me, not if you want exact numbers

I'd imagine around 8%, which you could make up with ram tuning

[analog pulsar]

Ggood probs knows

They are into ram OCing

[cyan ravine]

Depends on the chips on the sticks tbh

[mossy venture]

Forks, sips, pato, rawr, mr111 could all answer

[mossy venture]

Eh, could get nearly any 3200c16 kit to 3600c17 with decent subtimings

Considering sips got 3600c19 from 3200c22 iirc

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[analog pulsar]

Well I also as sips what would be better case build high end pc and use it for 20 years or upgrade every 2 years with the tech flow

[earnest olive]

why yall talkin about me

[mossy venture]

How tf you gonna use the same build for 20 years

[cyan ravine]

20

[mossy venture]

We wanted to summon you

[analog pulsar]

I mean it's depends

[mossy venture]

I don't see a point in spending 3k on a build right now when next gen will be out within months tbh

[analog pulsar]

Rn don't you think 16 cores or 12 will last some time

[cyan ravine]

It'll last a while

Not 20

[mossy venture]

I mean, 16 weak cores vs 8 strong cores

In two gens the 12900 will be beat by an i5

Or atleast matched

In single core that is

[cyan ravine]

If you want a 20 year value build you should build something cheap now then upgrade every 5 years or so

Completely new every 5

[analog pulsar]

Well I'm just setting something up in pcpartpicker so if new stuff looks not that good or too expensive I still have this build I can do

[mossy venture]

Yeah, id rather spend 1k on a pc now and spend 500 every three years to upgrade gou

Add a few hundred for cpu and mobo

But point stands

[cyan ravine]

Tech moves forward too fast you won't get something lasting 2 decades

[mossy venture]

Mm

Which is why 3090 was so weird

It's $1500 and will be beaten by a $600 4070. To most people it's such a weird buy

Better to buy a 3080 and buy a 4080 next gen for the same price overall

[cyan ravine]

It makes sense for workstation

But not for normies

[mossy venture]

Aight I'm out

I've got school tmrw

[analog pulsar]

"Flex" people enter chat

[mossy venture]

If you have any other questions you can always dm them to me kenzie but for now I need to sleep

[analog pulsar]

Okay goodnight

I'm going to sleep too

[cyan ravine]

Spending money to show off is different to spending money for effective shopping value lol

Like how people buy 77 inch plasmas only to find they're outdated in a few years

[flint sapphire]

Did someone say flex?

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[mossy venture]

(Which is why I find spending twice the money for a pc to have funni lights is weird)

Idc how my pc looks as long as it's functional and does what I want it to

[flint sapphire]

Oh wait I can’t flex then I don’t have enough funni lights

[mossy venture]

I'm bouta have a black build in a white p360a

[flint sapphire]

I do have a Herman Miller chair tho

[mossy venture]

With an mitx mobo in a full tower

[analog pulsar]

Actually the TV size is based on how far away you sit from it I read on google somewhere like 48inch you habe to sit semi close but 80 inch you can see feet away and still see tv

[cyan ravine]

Yeah but it's still a flex

[analog pulsar]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

You could sit closer

And save thousands

[analog pulsar]

Depends how living room is set up

[flint sapphire]

Just buy a 1080p projector and be happy for 5 years

[analog pulsar]

Ew

1080p

8k or bust

[flint sapphire]

At 120+ inches miles away

Looks basically the same

[cyan ravine]

If I can't see my TV from across the river I dun wan it

[analog pulsar]

[flint sapphire]

3500 lumen laser projector or bust

But yeah a super high end build goes out of style in a max 5 years

[ornate condor]

[analog pulsar]

I mean even my i7 3770k pc still runs good

I haven't tried all AAA games bc storage issues

[flint sapphire]

Eh yeah for web browsing and general use I’m sure, but we are a bunch of young gamers with high end component needs

And pretty lights if you can afford it 👀

[analog pulsar]

Well I use it for gaming lol too but I do also have a 3080 punched in there

[flint sapphire]

Up your resolution and fidelity as much as you can

Take the load off that poor cpu

[analog pulsar]

1440p

[flint sapphire]

Make it 4K and ultra quality

[analog pulsar]

[flint sapphire]

Bet it’ll perform at about the same frame rate

[earnest olive]

at 1.25V on a laptop sodimm

[vapid jolt]

How can I use argb fans on a motherboard with no argb headers

[earnest olive]

buy a controller

[flint sapphire]

“Imagine”

[analog pulsar]

[flint sapphire]

Not even joking

[analog pulsar]

Wym

[flint sapphire]

Take less stress off the cpu preparing them frames for your gpu

It’ll probably be at around the same frame rate since I’d imagine your gpu is barely working

Prob at like 30-40% util

[analog pulsar]

Idk I'll have to run game

[flint sapphire]

Tru

[analog pulsar]

I'm gunna buy 6500xt bc it's best gpu

[flint sapphire]

I’m gunna walk away now

[cyan ravine]

Geforce 256 pls

[analog pulsar]

Is 6600 or 6600xt which one better to pair with i7 3770

[frank stirrup]

Arent u building a whole new pc soon?

[flint sapphire]

6600 but like just update your cpu instead with the sale of your 3080 and then also pick up a 6600…

[still roost]

wakamoly#4570 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[flint sapphire]

It’s a bad gpu then

[analog pulsar]

No no I'm gunna keep pc how it is bc this pc isn't for me it's for a friend I'm just using this dell oplex until I can build my own system

[vapid jolt]

I can't find one

[analog pulsar]

@fossil cedar okay sorry for ping first off but remember yesterday About 6400xt while reason I wanted to get that is pc it is small and will run on pcie power only but I forgot some other cards can run on pcie power like 1050 ti and 1650 but is there any others that can run on pcie power and won't need power supply to run the i7 pc can fit any gpu mostly its the i3 computer that needs small gpu to fit inside it

Ouch

[humble fossil]

hi

what i have to get with that?

[analog pulsar]

This ig works on 2.0 pcie

[mossy venture]

Best pcie powered gpu is the 1650

For gaming anyways

Only some 1650s are pcie powered though

Like the asus phoenix

[analog pulsar]

Okay

[mossy venture]

I got mine off amazon for $210

Don't spend more than that plox

[south cliff]

IS THE 6800 BETTER THAN THE 3070?

didnt mean to caps lock

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[south cliff]

i think i might get a used 6800 instad of 3070-3070 ti

[boreal notch]

Should I just buy a pre built PC? A rtx 3080 ti is gonna cost me around $1000 so would it be smarter to buy pre built as the rest of my PC isn't that great?

[potent portal]

Well what's the rest of your PC look like?

Because a last gen 3060 ti prebuilt will be around $1300

[boreal notch]

I have a Ryzen 5 3600, rx 580, 16gb ddr4 ram, cheap mother board, 500gb ssd, super cheap power supply

And a cheap case

[potent portal]

You'll just need a new power supply it looks like

[boreal notch]

So I should stick with just buying the graphics card

[potent portal]

That and a PSU is what I would do

[safe rover]

lol

[quasi sun]

3080 for $800?

[potent portal]

What about it?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah this would be the cheapest
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CysmP6/evga-geforce-gtx-1650-4-gb-sc-ultra-black-video-card-04g-p4-1055-kr

[fossil cedar]

Pretty standard price atm yeah

[earnest olive]

i would say upgrade the ryzen 5 3600 to a ryzen 5 5600/x if going for a 3080ti

my r5 3600x was barely hanging on with 3080 non-ti at 1440p ultra

at 1900 fclk

and pbo/+200 fmax

[fossil cedar]

My ryzen 5 3600 struggles with my 3060 ti at 1440p at 1800 fclk

[earnest olive]

and a super overkill cooler

[fossil cedar]

Granted i still run low

[earnest olive]

lol yeah thats probably why

[fossil cedar]

But i like framesssss

https://tenor.com/view/chappelles-show-dave-chappelle-chappelles-tyrone-tyrone-biggums-gif-4958017

I neeed me my frames

[earnest olive]

with r5 3600x + 3080 in cold war i gained 0 fps turning on dlss at 1440p

[fossil cedar]

Dam lol

[earnest olive]

so yeah CPU bottlenecked

at 1440p ultra

and if I turned on rtx the CPU just died

[fossil cedar]

Sips in cold war, performance preset gives me ~190-210, quality only gave me 160-180 💀

[earnest olive]

I get 220 fps at 1440p native ultra

rtx off

rtx ultra drops it to 140

[fossil cedar]

Rtx icky anyway

[earnest olive]

damn it's almost like we have the same gpu

doesn't matter when we're both gpu bottlenecked

[fossil cedar]

Sips this is why you need to play on low and need a 5800x3d

[earnest olive]

your cpu is too rich for me

you can bring me a 12700k when you come over

I have peasant 5800x