building-and-recc-chat

[bitter mason]

it's on the shelf waiting for 11600KF clownliness

[cyan ravine]

well maybe not now, but if considering future options

[bitter mason]

I should find a cheap ass radiator & use my C*rsair Hydro block for testing fun time

[earnest olive]

kenzie removed ram from his pc while it was powered on

[cyan ravine]

true

[earnest olive]

i don't think he's going to become b-die oc megamind

[cyan ravine]

ok [REDACTED]

[bitter mason]

ah but I believe in Kenzie, he could be

[analog pulsar]

@bitter mason im gunna say truth I want 4000 series but i also didnt feel like waiting for gpu to come plsu we might have to wait for power supply to come out too with 16 pin so i just snagged a 308o while i could plus if i cant get my hands on a gpu i still have a 3080 to use

[bitter mason]

I mean that's pretty bold ngl. I wouldn't remove memory during use lmao

[cyan ravine]

i have no idea what would happen

sparks?

[analog pulsar]

my pc just shut off

[jagged ember]

it pretty much just died

and broke the stick

[bitter mason]

I haven't seen hot swap option for RAM In BIOS

[earnest olive]

worst case, contact touches the wrong pin during removal and causes a short

frying both ram and board in the process

[jagged ember]

i haven't seen hotswap pcie devices either lol

[earnest olive]

best case, pc shuts off

[bitter mason]

I dunno PSU gets those pretty quick

[earnest olive]

he was using an evga w1

[bitter mason]

I wasn't paying attention & tried to connect a usb to my ethernet port the other day

shut off immediately lmfao

[earnest olive]

LMAO

[analog pulsar]

no i think it was something else

@subtle halo you were there what happened

[bitter mason]

I probably shouldn't admit that

[analog pulsar]

what power supply was i using

[bitter mason]

was just too lazy to like stretch to see behind the computer

I've also shorted rgb before

that'll turn it right off too

[cyan ravine]

Oh I've shorted rgb, poor lights

that's the limit of my stupidity though

[bitter mason]

that wasn't my fault that time tho... well it was but I didn't realize the little adapter I should've soldered on wasn't connected right anymore

I actually threw that strip away

[fossil cedar]

It does iirc

[bitter mason]

short also arced & burned it

I couldn't figure out where the burning plastic smell was coming from initially

lol I gotta stop doing electrician things to computer stuff

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive what i wanted in my pc is 4000 series and the new 16 pin power supply "thats suppose to come out" all we have rn is gigabyte one thats C tier i think but then we ran into issues like intel P-E cores cant run vms well and am5 is suppose to be DDR5 so is am4 the best we got rn

[bitter mason]

I mean you could wait until like September-December for AM5 but 5950x is a beast

[novel wraith]

@fossil cedar do you know where i could find some compatible SSDs that i could use to upgrade this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09127DDVT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

something like 2tb

[analog pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtBB2VnF8M&t=387s does this video talk about new cpu at all

[bitter mason]

lol I watched that whole thing live

like super nerd

[analog pulsar]

lol

[bitter mason]

hmm why is this 5600g ignoring my TDC/EDC/PPT limits? it's maxing 56C lol

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive also did you see what i said PCpartpicker only have 64GB CL18 3600 for $300 or 64GB CL16 3200 for $284

which ram better

[earnest olive]

how much is 3600c16

[analog pulsar]

doesnt exist

[jagged ember]

I think it might exist

[bitter mason]

oh get the Thermaltake AIO

[novel wraith]

@bitter mason do you know if this https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-Plus-MZ-V7S2T0B/dp/B07MFZXR1B/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2TNN63XMN1G10&keywords=2TB%2BM.2%2BNVMe%2Bdrive&qid=1653761444&s=electronics&sprefix=2tb%2Bm.2%2Bnvme%2Bdrive%2Celectronics%2C83&sr=1-3&th=1 would be compatible with this again https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09127DDVT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[bitter mason]

with installed 3800c16

that has RAM cooler built in cuz totally unnecessary lol

[analog pulsar]

well 2x32GB but we go 4x16

[jagged ember]

should work fine

the drive is single sided and the laptop has a second m.2 slot

[bitter mason]

well the 3060 version says two M.2 Slots but it probably comes with two... I don't see the 3070 version even on here but I would think if that's a premium feature then the 3070 (better) version would have it too.

[jagged ember]

however, i reccomend the SK Hynix P31 Gold

[bitter mason]

you're likely going to have to remove one M.2 to use that tho

[jagged ember]

that would be really dumb

if you couldn't use both slots at the same time

[subtle halo]

??/

[bitter mason]

well ya like I think both slots will come populated with M.2s

[bitter mason]

damn that price is up there lol

[jagged ember]

oohh

[fossil cedar]

it has 2 m.2 slots, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gs7G3C/team-mp33-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fpd002t0c101

[jagged ember]

that would be even more ridiculous lol what laptop manufacturers give you two nvmes

[earnest olive]

if it's that expensive just go 3600c18

[jagged ember]

or sn570?

[bitter mason]

heck just throw down a little more & get bdie lmfao https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374091?Description=3600c14&cm_re=3600c14-_-20-374-091-_-Product

[analog pulsar]

newegg i think had a third party for 2x32GB 3600 CL16 for like $500

[analog pulsar]

ew no RGB

[earnest olive]

$500 💀

[bitter mason]

3200c14 but you could almost certainly clock these up to 3600c14 or 3800c14 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232563?Description=3200c14&cm_re=3200c14-_-9SIA4YU66S0673-_-Product&quicklink=true

but still insane price

[novel wraith]

awesome thanks guys

[analog pulsar]

screw it we making a 10k pc build

[bitter mason]

maybe get a 2x16gb kit to start off

& see if you need 64gb

or just forget the whole bdie thing & go with those royals

I think those are probably CJR

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive ay Cl16 and 3600

[earnest olive]

kenzie.

[analog pulsar]

what

[fossil cedar]

mp33 cheapor

[analog pulsar]

perfect the ram is as much as the CPU

[bitter mason]

MP33 Pro had better read & sequential write for $3 cheaper than MP33 regular last week when I ordered a 1tb for 5600g build

[jagged ember]

o

true I haven't looked at prices lol

although I did just get sn570 open box

[analog pulsar]

not since 223 days ago

[bitter mason]

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-1tb-mp33-pro/p/N82E16820331563?Item=N82E16820331563

[formal girder]

Both my kits of 128gb and 32gb of ballistix together was cheaper than this

[analog pulsar]

well is it rgb

[formal girder]

The 32gb kit yes the 128gb no

Your also choking your CPU performance if gonna be using software to control the rgb

[analog pulsar]

bruh its fine omg

i used this software on a 3600

[bitter mason]

MP33 pro also has longer lifespan

@visual bone you may have to change your go-to NVMe lol

[subtle halo]

how long it last

[bitter mason]

a mere 2 million hours

[frank stirrup]

keeps changing with time as prices fluctuate anyway tbh

[bitter mason]

well I felt accomplished getting slightly better NVMe for same price lol

[analog pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Jayson1156/saved/nXJyWZ @bitter mason is this better ram speed now sinve zen 3 can only go so fast

[bitter mason]

ya those are good if you want to run XMP & not OC at all.

[analog pulsar]

man

[bitter mason]

I know, it sucks

trying to predict whether you wanna embark on that craziness

but the most expensive way to do it is to get it thinking you never will & then decide you want to & have to repalce it lol

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/forgetStyx/saved/#view=M2qcHx

look at the lists here

this is what I refer to

[bitter mason]

I have a 64gb Trident Z 2x32gb kit in a box in a drawer for that exact expensive reason lol

[frank stirrup]

guy updates with cheapest drive in tier by size

[analog pulsar]

well just sad had to downclock ram i could of had 4000mhz but intel had to make P-E cores

[stoic island]

list isn't actively updated, no xs70 :p

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive if am5 comes out and its only DDR5 would you not recommend it

[frank stirrup]

theres no if here

and theres not enough info to recoomend anything

[analog pulsar]

wym

[frank stirrup]

just wait

[frank stirrup]

100% confirmed that am5 will be ddr5 only

[earnest olive]

let me just look into my crystal ball

[analog pulsar]

well

[frank stirrup]

yes?

[earnest olive]

to be clear

[frank stirrup]

do u not see ddr5 on the bottom right

[earnest olive]

i have no irrational hatred for ddr5

i say it's not worth buying because it doesn't represent a relevant performance boost for the price at this point in time

[analog pulsar]

i see it but whats what im saying

[earnest olive]

if zen 4 brings one, then it may be worth it

ddr5 will eventually replace ddr4 as it matures by default

early ddr4 got destroyed by good ddr3

it's normal

[frank stirrup]

i usually dont understand what ur saying tbh

[frank stirrup]

might help bring price down too

bring ddr5 into mainstream

[analog pulsar]

if i get a ryzen 9 5950x Ill be stuck with no upgrade path unless i go am5 but if i do that ill have to go ddr5

[frank stirrup]

bro just chill and wait for a few months

[analog pulsar]

bc intel isnt a option rn

[frank stirrup]

am4 isnt dead yet

at least from what amd said in latest event

like actually unless you find a time machine, calm down

we dont have a way of seeing the future and making recommendations

[analog pulsar]

[frank stirrup]

if u have to buy rn, id say 5950x for ur use case

if u ask for my opinion id say dont buy rn

better cpu/price drop on 5950x soon

So please dont bug anyone about this till am5 releases and reviews come out because you will be wasting your and our time really

[analog pulsar]

oh

[analog pulsar]

okay

[bitter mason]

remember tho, the "c" after the frequency is very important number

[frank stirrup]

I should take a look at ddr5 soon

havent really familiarised myself with it

[bitter mason]

me neither

I see 4800c650023498343209 & just think nvm

[frank stirrup]

with am5 coming up tho, i probably should

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

[earnest olive]

in the context of someone running xmp... no not really

[bitter mason]

okay sorry letting my RAM OC bias get involved lmao

[earnest olive]

it's worth paying $20 extra for 3600c16 xmp over 3600c18 xmp on a 16gb kit

[frank stirrup]

i mean lower cas latency will still help if u have the budget

[earnest olive]

it gets a lot more questionable when you're looking at a $150 difference on a 64gb kit

[frank stirrup]

on xmp

[bitter mason]

ya but on 64gb kit it's crazy difference

ya heck

[earnest olive]

i'm not disputing that

but is it worth $150

[frank stirrup]

nah

[bitter mason]

only if you want the option to OC in the future

[earnest olive]

exactly

[frank stirrup]

but realistically 64gb is edge case anyway so same rules for buying dont apply

at least imo

[bitter mason]

but my mistakes aren't how everyone else is gonna approach things so

[sharp temple]

Just trying to figure out some possibilities for upgrades for my pc is it worth upgrading to a 3070 from a 3060 and what about the 40 series cards?

Like user benchmark says the 3070 is 57% better than a 3060

[potent portal]

!ubm

[still roost]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[sharp temple]

Oh OK then

[potent portal]

That passmark link is a bit better for your gpu comparing needs

It doesn't give arbitrary number like UBM's skewed "effective" score

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive oooo

[sharp temple]

I like that color

[potent portal]

5200 DDR5 is ok I guess, not a terrible combo

[sharp temple]

Wait all of it for 300?

That seems like a steal

If my parents would let me I might just buy that. But sadly no

[potent portal]

I'd def try to overclock that DDR5 tho, as it is it's worse than good DDR4

[little osprey]

I saw someone doing 43.5 ns Aida latency with a 7K RAM kit.

10900K latency with 100K read/writes.

[ornate condor]

Good deal

[ornate condor]

I mean z690 mobo + 32gb ram for 300$ is still good deal even if it was regular 3200mhz ram too lol

[analog pulsar]

am i saving any money if i go with a bundle

[mossy venture]

No

12900f is $490

[analog pulsar]

saying you can only buy amd

[strong raft]

Am4 is an obsolete socket, even w/ these powerful cpus.

[analog pulsar]

i searched up mobo but thats like 300 plus cpu is 500 seems like bundle bad

lol these together = 928 less then that "bundle"

[ornate condor]

Am4 is dead and gone. As ddr4 rams

[analog pulsar]

bruh

[strong raft]

Ddr4 to ddr5: get gud scrub

[ornate condor]

Am5 is coming soon and it will only support ddr5 so rip am4 and ddr4

[frank stirrup]

incorrect

watch the amd event

[desert gulch]

Zen 4 is gonna tank for value tho

I'd be surprised if we even got a $350 6 core

tsmc 5n+dual chipset mobos moment

Plus ddr5 😳

[ornate condor]

Ddr4 is dead

[analog pulsar]

Woah cpu pins are on the right say whaaaaaa

Asrock looking nice

[vague oracle]

It’s like that on a bunch of mobos, it’s also on the Crosshair VIII Impact I’m buying soon

[humble fossil]

hi

[vague oracle]

Wait no, they’re right next to the 24pin, not on the top right corner on the Crosshair

[analog pulsar]

Yea cpu pins are normally on left side of mobo not righr

[humble fossil]

What is the difference between the Asus b550 strix motherboards E and F?

[vague oracle]

This mobo they’re next to the 24 pin, actually really cool imo

[analog pulsar]

Oh

[humble fossil]

@austere condor

[vague oracle]

Really bad financial decision but I want it

No need to ping random people, someone will answer eventually

[humble fossil]

I don’t

[ornate condor]

AM5 finally got LGA cpu locking mechanism lol

[analog pulsar]

Meh don't think like that

[ornate condor]

I hate am4 couse everytime when I try to remove heatsink it popping up with cpu lol

[analog pulsar]

[vague oracle]

When AM5 comes out, think AM4 mobos will get cheaper?

[ornate condor]

Maybe not

It depends on amd will continue to produce them or not

It can get more experience as old intel mobos lol

Because they're discontinued

[vague oracle]

So what you’re saying is I should buy the impact now?

[ornate condor]

Probably it will get cheaper for a little while and then gonna get expensive back

[strong raft]

Not when a lot of am4 mobos are already "cheap". The high end stuff, who knows

[ornate condor]

wait that z690 mobo have 4x m2 slot too

it's so tempting deal but I awoiding gigabyte

should I give 4th chance to gigabyte and buy that mobo + ddr5 ram bundle

[analog pulsar]

Well there'd gigabyte elite AX that's cokes with 4 m.2 slots

[dapper sapphire]

Which motherboard should I get? I kind of don't want a mini board though, but it's a z690.

GIGABYTE Z690I AORUS ULTRA LITE DDR4 Mini-ITX for $149.99

or MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Motherboard (mATX) for $129.99?

[jagged ember]

660

why do you even want a 690?

[dapper sapphire]

Ohh okay sounds good, I just heard z690 are generally higher end and can overclock, not sure if I will tho

[jagged ember]

yeah if you aren't gonna use the features of a 690 board it's not worth it

especially because it has way less expansion than the B660

[dapper sapphire]

Okay thanks!

[ornate condor]

that gigabyte z690 had issues with pcie4 so they recalled it and offered them as lite version which only supports pcie3 lmao

[unborn mesa]

does the asrock X570 Pro4 has 2 m.2 slots or am i reading this wrong

[ornate condor]

I see 2 m2 slots on it

and one m2 wifi

[dapper sapphire]

ohh gotcha

[frank stirrup]

one of them

there is a non lite version that has pcie 5

[mossy venture]

whats happening with it?

i didnt see the event

[frank stirrup]

its gonna remain low end for amd while am5 takes over high end

[mossy venture]

ooh

meaning theyre going to make a new am4 series...?

or continue production of 5000

or low end next gen will be am4

[frank stirrup]

maybe zen 3 refresh

with igpu

or maybe new series

[mossy venture]

ah

well yeah 6000 series

thats going to be am4

[frank stirrup]

not much more info

just wait

am4 defi isnt dead yet tho

[mossy venture]

sounds interesting

[unborn mesa]

thx

[hybrid ether]

I love how my pc functions as a space heater

[mossy venture]

most do

[unborn mesa]

exactly why i put mine by my feet

[winter marsh]

Question, why is the Arctic Freezer 2 240mm AIO bad for the Ryzen 5800X3D?

[mossy venture]

because the 5800x3d is a hot asf cpu

l3 cache is hot

the 5800x3d has 128mb of it

[winter marsh]

Never seen it go above 70

[mossy venture]

5800x3d is the hottest gaming cpu, just below 12900k/s

[unborn mesa]

bacca why could i be getting low fps in games

[winter marsh]

Intel Cpu's double as portable stoves

[mossy venture]

5800x was the hottest gaming cpu until 12700k and 12900k came out

and then 5800x3d is basically as hot as 12900k/s

theres no difference in temps

[winter marsh]

brb restart required for app update

[restive halo]

@mossy venture Completed that build. Just posted it in build pics

[winter marsh]

mended to me here, and it rated better than Asus AIO's

[mossy venture]

certainly looks interesting

[mossy venture]

lf2 aios are great

just not a 240 on a 5800x3d

[winter marsh]

nothing larger than a 240mm will fix in a Cougar 410 case

[mossy venture]

then i wouldnt have bought that case :P

whatever, if you have issues then you can deal with them as they arise

[winter marsh]

Case came before the Cpu and AIO

Bought and built the pc when X570 and Ryzen 3000 was top end

[mossy venture]

ah

[winter marsh]

This was home for since 2021

As you can see a three fan card kills front mounted AIO

It was home to a 3600XT aunder a Wraith Prism

I shoe-horned the 240mm uptop

[unborn mesa]

is it normal for fps to be way inconsistent in some games?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

some games are made that way

aka trash optimization

[unborn mesa]

well i used to get 150+ on warzone and fortnite and i upgraded cpu and im getting less than 100

[obsidian wigeon]

huh

that's cooling problem

likely

[unborn mesa]

under 70c

[obsidian wigeon]

what was your cpu before you upgraded?

[unborn mesa]

5700g

[obsidian wigeon]

that's pretty odd

[winter marsh]

DX9, and 11 behave differently as well as the game engine itself

[unborn mesa]

not a huge upgrade but still

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just weird

[unborn mesa]

im on a 5900x and 6900xt btw

[obsidian wigeon]

better cpu

and enough cooling

yet less perf

i suggest checking your ram settings

[winter marsh]

You may want to uninstall and DL a new copy of Ryzen Master

[unborn mesa]

yea gta was getting under 200 which idc about but ya know still would like it to atleast hit my 165 refresh rate

[unborn mesa]

dont even have it tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

your ram setting probably got scuffed

[mossy venture]

rm is terrible

[unborn mesa]

probably

[obsidian wigeon]

it's worth checking out

[unborn mesa]

yup im going to

[winter marsh]

It gave me issues with the 3600XT, 5600X, and 5800X3D I installed over the last two days

[unborn mesa]

cuz i dont mind low fps i do mind the lag

[winter marsh]

Message read it didn't support the Cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

Ryzen master has nothing to do with performance problems in this case

[unborn mesa]

isnt that just for overclocking

[south cliff]

what is a good price for a 3070 used/

[unborn mesa]

how used

[south cliff]

just used

[mossy venture]

considering you can get one new for 600

550 or lower

[south cliff]

i have seen some for like 534

msi gaming x trio

[obsidian wigeon]

That's nice

A 3 fan 3070

Consideing it's in cad

[south cliff]

used tho

[obsidian wigeon]

Assuming it's like that

[south cliff]

its usd

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

then meh

[unborn mesa]

just test it

[winter marsh]

I'm looking at buying three 2080's used and two 3080's any working condiction

[unborn mesa]

if u dont mind me asking

why

[south cliff]

we all now why

[unborn mesa]

probably but not gonna guess so

[winter marsh]

know why? there are five pc to upgrade

[obsidian wigeon]

sheesh

[unborn mesa]

see i doubt u guessed that

[south cliff]

dang

[unborn mesa]

have u checked facebook marketplace or ebay?

[winter marsh]

two Asus Tuf B450 Plus Gaming, one MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max, one MSI B550 Gaming Edge WiFi, and my own Asus Tuf X570 WiFi

[mossy venture]

mobo has almost nothing to do with gpu compatibility

psu is what you want to check

[winter marsh]

Yup my Newegg and Ebay carts are filled with planned purchases

Three pc themed sets of DDR4 3600Mhz, two headsets from Newegg

[mossy venture]

c18 or c16

3200c16 is better than 3600c18

[desert gulch]

depends

[mossy venture]

even on my 3600 i got better perf with 3200c16

[winter marsh]

all 18-22-22-42

[mossy venture]

id do either this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8BLwrH/gskill-aegis-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc then

[obsidian wigeon]

oh yeah

first word latency matters too

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[obsidian wigeon]

i love it how pcpp lists it on some kits

[desert gulch]

yea

[winter marsh]

Crucial, G-Skill, and OLOy

original Cpu was cheap Ebay Ryzen 1500X

Sitting on 16mb or DDR4 2133

[desert gulch]

mb?

[mossy venture]

ima assume you mean gb

[desert gulch]

😳

[winter marsh]

gb

[desert gulch]

it may be sitting on cache instead of ram

xD

[unborn mesa]

what settings should i check

[obsidian wigeon]

xmp

[unborn mesa]

ok one min

[winter marsh]

or D.O.O.C depending on the mobo manufacturer

XMP is Intel's trademarked standard

[obsidian wigeon]

hmm

wow damn, 3200c16 actually has worse first word latency than 3600c18

or about equal

[unborn mesa]

Docp

[winter marsh]

So D.O.O.C. can befound in the overclocking menu

[obsidian wigeon]

docp/xmp

[unborn mesa]

I know

Just saying its docp

It was off

[winter marsh]

Okay it's like I'm on my tablet opening my bio's

[unborn mesa]

Didnt know it was off since i havent used pc for games lately

[winter marsh]

I'm still working on rigs upstairs and down in the room

[obsidian wigeon]

then there's your problem

[unborn mesa]

yup

now to clean my keycaps and play games

[winter marsh]

Thats the crappiest windows update I've ever seen

Free Windows 11

[unborn mesa]

did you update to windows 11?

[winter marsh]

Not a chance

[unborn mesa]

Yall like my keyboard?

[winter marsh]

It was a nightmare going from 7 to 10

[unborn mesa]

did you use 8?

nah ill send u link

[winter marsh]

Nobody used Win8

[unborn mesa]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098BGPT6W?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

vintage white switches

[unborn mesa]

i had it on like 2 laptops

[winter marsh]

I only buy Spill Proof keyboards for the kids

[unborn mesa]

thats nice

[winter marsh]

Apex 3 by Steel Series

[unborn mesa]

dang my airsoft gun tracer isnt working anymore

whatttt

[obsidian wigeon]

tfw i used win 8.1 for a while

it was fine, just the dreaded start menu was the bad thing

[unborn mesa]

yep

[winter marsh]

The last brat has abandoned Fortnite

[obsidian wigeon]

win 10 was horrible when it first came out, but then it eventually became goo

im enjoying win 11 rn

on an "unsupported" cpu

[unborn mesa]

isnt tactile clicky?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

tactile is just well

tactile

not clicky

they're usually more silent

[split shoal]

i love the side and bottom fans of the lian li o11 is there any other cases like it?

[unborn mesa]

i mean these are pretty quiet

yep

they just thock

[obsidian wigeon]

they don't click nor have a bump

just goes down linear

[unborn mesa]

with keycaps they do

but im not using keycaps rn

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, the keycaps hits the board

hence the thock

[unborn mesa]

thats how it happens

[winter marsh]

I'm off on a test flight

[winter marsh]

That was an odd experience

[unborn mesa]

well lets find out if i get low fps

200-300 fps

[little osprey]

when’s a good time to build since hardware is coming out

i’ll have money for it by mid july

Just haven’t been caught up on release dates

[unborn mesa]

late year im assuming

if not early 2023

[barren talon]

@scarlet iron post here

[unborn mesa]

the hardware out now should drop price but it u want newer hardware in a couple years imo

why bitly link

[vestal hare]

he might have a chrome addon?

[desert gulch]

@earnest olive

hey

NOBODY CLICK ON THAT LINK

i turned my vpn to netherlands and its an ip grabber 💀

have fun with the address of a vpn bozo

[barren talon]

oh no

[unborn mesa]

lmao thought it was sus

[unborn mesa]

smart

[desert gulch]

hehehe

crappy vpn but it works for stuff like that

[frank stirrup]

coulda just used wheregoes

[unborn mesa]

wonder why dude wanted our ips

[frank stirrup]

trash

[desert gulch]

can show your city and stuff

[frank stirrup]

maybe dont use random stuff from parametric selection

[desert gulch]

ppl like to troll with it

[unborn mesa]

pointless imo

[desert gulch]

yeah

some ppl like to do it idk

[unborn mesa]

oh well

pointless

dude banned yet or what

[desert gulch]

you know whats also pointlesS?

a circle

[unborn mesa]

u know

[desert gulch]

I am the funny man

[unborn mesa]

thats true

hilarious

[stoic island]

No, it's pointful

[unborn mesa]

how

[desert gulch]

stop evil twin

[stoic island]

Infinite points :p

[unborn mesa]

^

isnt a circle 360 degrees

[frank stirrup]

yeah circles have points they just have no lines

[stoic island]

infinitely small lines

[unborn mesa]

^

well guys i have no idea what to do

so lets design myself a new case

[desert gulch]

use a cardboard box?

[unborn mesa]

its the principle of custom pc

[frank stirrup]

ree

[stoic island]

No tactile no thock :p

[unborn mesa]

-_-

[stoic island]

U4Ts fun

[unborn mesa]

no clue what that is

[stoic island]

Fun quiet tactile switch

[unborn mesa]

send link

[stoic island]

Some random sound test
https://youtu.be/YUEXuKyFueY

[unborn mesa]

i want link to buy

isnt the holypanda thing new doe

[stoic island]

Sold out most places

Holy panda old now

Prob like 2 years old?

Glorious panda like a year old

[unborn mesa]

dang fr

im out of date no cap

i got some gateron black ink just sitting there

[stoic island]

You could manually look through mechmap sites and look for u4t if you want but where I got it from is oos
https://www.mechmap.tech/

[unborn mesa]

eh its ok

i got like 400-500 spare switches

its bad

@bitter mason that build in #build-pics how much did that cost you

[winter marsh]

Okay I am back

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/more-than-you-can-afford-pal-more-than-you-can-afford-ferrari-fast-and-furious-expensive-gif-25234833

(||issa joke||)

[unborn mesa]

Ngl doubt that

[desert gulch]

You can afford anything with a big enough loan

[unborn mesa]

dont need a loan

[strong raft]

@unborn mesa

[desert gulch]

Hell, take out a loan big enough and buy the bank who loaned you the money

🧠

[unborn mesa]

unfortnately couldnt see it

[desert gulch]

Get on my level kid

[strong raft]

Amateurs, amirite

[desert gulch]

Yup

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[unborn mesa]

the irs must love you

[desert gulch]

HOW TO GET RICH IN 5 MINUTES (not clickbait)

[unborn mesa]

Bruh

[frigid night]

@wheat coral what is that paper thing for?

[frank stirrup]

what paper thing?

oh in build pics?

[frigid night]

Yeah

[frank stirrup]

thats a love note from his girlfren

[frigid night]

Ah

[wheat coral]

thanks rawr

[frigid night]

Lol

[wheat coral]

oh this is build chat

[little osprey]

hows the pc looking 🤣 im not actually gonna build this I was just really bored https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bNGXfv
what should I change

[frigid night]

Nice, but I'm thinking that AIO is not going to do anything for that cpu lol

[little osprey]

yeah, I know pretty much nothing about coolers so I just kinda threw a compatible one in there lol

[frigid night]

With that kind of build you'd definitely want to look into custom loops

And at that point with 2 gpu that big, you might look into a different case that'll allow more room for a good sized custom loop.. I'm thinking 3 rads at least.. thats a lot of gpu to keep cool.

[little osprey]

whats a diffrent case that I could use because anything I tried other then the o-11 dynamic isnt compatible

[frigid night]

I'm not sure of a case tbh.. but you're gonna want a lot of cooling capability.

[little osprey]

ok let me look some stuff up im sure ill find something

what about the Corsair Obsidian 1000D

that seems massive

[frigid night]

Idk about this with 2 gpu like that, but... this is what I have my eye on for when I go to custom loop.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Tempered-Vertical-Computer-CA-1H1-00F1WN-00/dp/B01N1GP2GZ/ref

[frigid night]

Eh, doesn't have mesh panels which would be good for airflow.. check this one out instead.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Super-Tower-and-Full-Tower-Cases/7000D-AIRFLOW-Full-Tower-ATX-PC-Case/p/CC-9011218-WW?utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_term="keyword"&utm_content=corsair&gclid=CjwKCAjws8yUBhA1EiwAi_tpERWPTHhi6UpA0NdUJTXC1ODRr_-eZSefgrq4_XctnmNQgr6jDVaOfRoC7BwQAvD_BwE

Sorry for huge links. I'm on mobile so cba to shorten them.

[winter marsh]

Okay looks like I am going back to my roots

Antec is where I started

[distant python]

That boards capable for 4.0 ssd might wanna move up to the 980 2tb

[mossy venture]

4.0 ssds offer next to no benefit if you're gaming

[distant python]

Didn’t mention gaming, referenced board capabilities

[mossy venture]

Didn't see the list you replied to, mb

[winter marsh]

okay a new case and aio worked into the purchase plan

[distant python]

All good no hate

[fossil cedar]

Meh 2x3090 is gonna do nothing more than 1 unless it's for rendering or something, poor choice of ram and motherboard and especially cooler and now i can see you just high to low sorted most things...

[little osprey]

no I didnt lmao I just looked up best (x) on market rn

[fossil cedar]

You're thinking of 980 pro, regular 980 is worse than 970 evo plus but 980 pro isn't even a good choice for a very high end ssd, would want a sn850 or firecuda 530 or something

[fossil cedar]

They lied

[little osprey]

lol ok

[fossil cedar]

This would be a better balls to the wall pc btw
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfVYXy

[vague oracle]

Bought it, thanks

[fossil cedar]

Xoxo

Enjoy your 24tb of ultra fast ssd

[frigid night]

that's ridiculous... I"m like halfway there

[fossil cedar]

You have 12tb of ssd?

[frigid night]

nono

I just meant in price

[fossil cedar]

Oh lol

Your setup cost 4k?

[frigid night]

almost

don't judge 😛

[frigid night]

really close... price isn't including the money spent on my desk and the materials it cost me to make my pc stand. Or the other stuff that I have like the soundbar and monitor arm mount

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/tiraniss/saved/Yg8JnQ

[green egret]

Z690 mobo + 32gb ddr5 ram for 300$ :PepeBean: :FedoraTip: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4498968 is this a good deal

And will it support a 12400f cpu

Cause I just got an msi b660m mortar wifi motherboard but it didn’t get here and I bought 32gb team delta ram with 500gb nvme bundle

[forest sonnet]

wtf

[fossil cedar]

Private list

[frigid night]

does that mean you can't see it?

now can you?

[fossil cedar]

It's a good deal for a 12700k+ it's not worth it for a 12400f, just get a b660 msi pro ddr4 130$/b660 msi mortar ddr4(if you want wifi) 160$ and a 2x16 kit of 3200mhz cl16 for 100$

I can see it now

Why is there a 500$ 1650 super?

[frigid night]

huh, I didn't realize it was listed as that muich

[green egret]

Yeah. I got the bundle on team group 2x16gb rgb plus 500gb nvme for $144

Then I bought a team mp3 1TB nvme as well

If I went with the ddr5 deal on Newegg I could just use a spare 2tb hdd I have and the price would be about the same though… and the price would be abt the same

[frigid night]

k updated. I guess I'm a bit further away than I thought. however there is still about $200 worth of stuff not listed as well as another $120 in fans that I have that I will be using once I get the 5000D

[green egret]

The only thing is I’d upgrade my cpu which would be the extra $100

For for an extra $100 is it worth having ddr5 setup?

I think so right..?

[jagged ember]

eh

[stoic island]

Ddr5 is not worth it rn

[jagged ember]

ddr5 not worth it

to expensive

[stoic island]

It's more costly for no performance gain

[green egret]

It would be $100 more for my entire build out

[jagged ember]

only a couple percent or something iirc

[green egret]

Plz read above

[jagged ember]

yeah not worth it

[green egret]

Idk I think it might be if I want to resell in 2-3 years

[jagged ember]

until ddr5 prices settle down

[green egret]

It’s $299 for the motherboard and 32gb ram. DDR5

[jagged ember]

I think intel is betting on ddr5 prices going down

with their new 13th gen chipset

[green egret]

For DDR4 it’s $303 for motherboard ram and nvme

So it’s only $4 difference

[jagged ember]

imo better deal

[forest sonnet]

nope

[jagged ember]

you get storage too

[green egret]

Yeah but like I said I have a 2tb hdd I’m not using

So I can use it

[jagged ember]

no one really even needs ddr5

[jagged ember]

just use it all lol, nvmes and hdd

[green egret]

I know but what abt in 3 years when I go to resell it

[forest sonnet]

300 usd can get 12400f - 150usd
pro b660m-a 129 usd
mp33 - 70-80 usd

[jagged ember]

ddr5 pricing might come down by then

so

I wouldn't bet on it

[green egret]

And so will dd4

[jagged ember]

and ddr4 systems would still sell just fine

it's not like their prices will plummet suddenly

not everyone wants ddr5

if you want it you can get it

but I wouldn't

[green egret]

.

Gigabyte z690 gamin X DDR5 + aorus 2x16gb DDR5 ram + 2TB HDD for $299

VS.

MSI b660m mortar wifi DDR4 + team group 2x16RGB DDR4 + team group 500nvme for $303

[jagged ember]

you didn't pay for that hdd in that 300 dollars

[green egret]

I got the hdd for free

Jealous baby

[jagged ember]

you shouldn't add it into the list like that, then

it's not a fair comparison lol

[green egret]

That’s what I’d use it for though

I wouldn’t even use it in the other build

[jagged ember]

yes but it's not part of the cost

[green egret]

And if I go for option 2 I’m buying a $79 1TB NVME

[jagged ember]

listing it like that implies you paid 300 for all of the items on the list

[green egret]

So I’m leaving that out too

I did… I got the hdd for free man

[jagged ember]

from the 300 dollar bundle?

[green egret]

This is for me not everyone else

No I got it for free

[jagged ember]

okay

[green egret]

Brand new

Let’s just say my friend gave it to me

[jagged ember]

I'd still stick with ddr4

[green egret]

It has been laying around for 2 years haven’t touched it

[jagged ember]

it won't hurt your resale value massively in 3 years

[green egret]

Also….. I’d prob want to upgrade my cpu if I went ddr5

[jagged ember]

so it'd cost more overall?

if you went ddr5

[green egret]

Option #1: Gigabyte z690 gamin X DDR5 + i5-12600k + se-914-xt - aorus 2x16gb DDR5 ram + (free) 2TB HDD for $697

VS.

Option #2: MSI b660m mortar wifi DDR4 + i5-12400f, t-force delta 2x16RGB DDR4 + team group 500nvme + 1TB team mp3 nvme for $544

Yeah ddr5 will be at least $150 more that’s with the free hdd and a cheap cooler

[green egret]

Yeah I’m gona stick to ddr 4 then

I forgot I’d need cpu cooler too

[mossy venture]

Could also get a 12700f and b660

[green egret]

That would be really expensive to add the ram on after that. This is a package deal w mobo and ram

[mossy venture]

What's your budget?

[green egret]

None just comparing

[mossy venture]

12700f at $310, msi b660 at $130 and 32gb 3200c16 at $100

[untold beacon]

that seems about right

[green egret]

Ddr5 ram?

[mossy venture]

Ddr5 isn't worth at the moment

[green egret]

So why would I upgrade my cpu then

[mossy venture]

Because cpu perf is better?

[green egret]

Are you referring to option #1 or 2?

[mossy venture]

None?

I'm making my own suggestion?

[green egret]

Oh

I’m good with the 12400f prob more than I need

Just going to be playing warzone and apex

And steaming

[mossy venture]

Do you need wifi on the mobo?

[green egret]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Or are you using ethernet

Msi b660 mag mortar I think has wifi

[green egret]

Have b660m mortar wifi

[mossy venture]

Or there's an asus prime variant with wifi

Yeah good mobo

[green egret]

Kk sweet do u have it

[mossy venture]

Nah but it can handle a 12900 without throttling vrms

[green egret]

I’m excited it comes tomorrow

I already have all my ram nvme case

And cpu

[mossy venture]

For ram https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8BLwrH/gskill-aegis-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

Oh

[untold beacon]

nice

[mossy venture]

Cool

[green egret]

I got the rgb tforce delta

[mossy venture]

3200c16?

[green egret]

It came with a 500gb nvme

Yeah

[mossy venture]

Oh nice

Better deal than the 3600c18 one

If I'm thinking of the right one

[green egret]

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz Desktop Memory (White) TF4D432G3200HC16FDC01 Bundle with CARDEA Z44L 500GB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 2280 Gaming SSD (Read 3,300 MB/s) TM8FPL500G0C127 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WZWDRKS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_gl_i_JVGT677N38C9PCZ25AVS

[untold beacon]

like i just finished building my pc a few days ago it runs pretty smooth without a graphics card

[green egret]

There was another deal for $139 with 1TB nvme and 2x8gb

I went with the 2x8gb and 500gb

Then bought a 1TB nvme as well

[untold beacon]

alright

sounds good

[green egret]

Yes happy I saved $$$ on this build

[untold beacon]

and you know what

i went all out

[green egret]

And getting the things I want not from people in pcmr having me buy a le grand macho cooler

[untold beacon]

and spent almost 2 grand

[green egret]

I did too

Including my screen and everything

It was 2 years ago

Not a bad pc but not great

[untold beacon]

well this is my new build

[green egret]

Pics?

[untold beacon]

just the pc alone costed me that much

[green egret]

Mine was like $1500

Or $1600

[untold beacon]

the moniters were about 1 grand together

[mossy venture]

What gpu did you get?

[mossy venture]

Tf monitors did you buy

3 m27qs?

[untold beacon]

the odessy g7 4k 144hz

and then the aoc 27in 165hz 1080p

[green egret]

They made me get a team 3D 480gb ssd instead of an nvme

I got a 2070 super then traded it for a 3080 @mossy venture

I got lucky

It was right when they sold out

[untold beacon]

man

[green egret]

Right before

[still roost]

Taybeast#1077 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[untold beacon]

luck

on this mans side

[green egret]

Yeah I bought at the right time. Abt 1-2 months before the 3000 serious came out

And evga has step up so I took full advantage of it

[untold beacon]

nice

[green egret]

Yup

My ram is messed up though I’m pretty sure

So I have to order a usb

[frank stirrup]

I got me a 6750xt for 470 usd shipped including tax

[untold beacon]

thats nice

very nice

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

crazy deal

[mossy venture]

Oh nice

[fossil cedar]

Keep it, good bundle

[green egret]

Yes I’m going to.. should I put windows on that Cardea 500gb nvme or on the team mp3 1TB nvme

The Cardea is slightly better

[fossil cedar]

You'd be better off going 12600k + ddr4 over 12400 ddr5

[green egret]

But not sure how to manage the storage ..

I’m sticking to the option #2

All ddr4 with 12400f

[fossil cedar]

Dam that's still quite a bit

[green egret]

If I install windows and warzone and apex legends

[fossil cedar]

I'd put it on the faster drive even tho it's smaller

[green egret]

Warzone and apex is like half of the 500gb already

[fossil cedar]

You can put your games on the other drive tho

[green egret]

Yes I’ll have to

Will it start to slow down if it’s more than half full?

[fossil cedar]

nah

[jagged ember]

not if it's a good drive lol

[frigid night]

I know lol. I didn't stumble into buying pc related things... I flippin leaped off the edge.

and almost everything I got was on sale at the time.

a few things have gotten cheaper since though

[little osprey]

Would a b560, i5 10100f be worth a upgrade with a gtx 970?

Don’t know to upgrade or nah

[ornate condor]

Which cpu you currently have

oh if you have 10100f already you better upgrade your gpu

Rx6600 should be fine for 10100f I guess

[fossil cedar]

yeah could you rephrase with what you currently have and what you where thinking of getting?

[little osprey]

I5 4590 lmaoo

[ornate condor]

I think it's pretty enough for gtx 970

[little osprey]

Which?

[fossil cedar]

id go i5 12100 and h610 for like 30$ more maybe, it would be worth it

[ornate condor]

I don't think 4590 will bottleneck to gtx 970 lol

But yeah you can get 12100f and can upgrade gpu later tho

[little osprey]

Nice, also should I replace thermal paste on Gpu or cpu?

Bought the pc from someone though I don’t know when they replaced it before, or if they did

[viral ore]

yeah, windows 10 will bottleneck it tho lmao

[ornate condor]

Lol

[viral ore]

4c/4t? more like useless

[ornate condor]

Come on gtx 970 is alright for it lol

[viral ore]

no

running windows 7 maybe

1080p60

[little osprey]

Ah hell nah

[viral ore]

Ah hell yea

aint no way that chip is doing anything nowadays

[fossil cedar]

maybe your gpu, your new cpu would come with thermal paste on the stock cooler

[ornate condor]

I seen people pairing i5 2400 with 1650 or 960 lol

[viral ore]

linux box or recycling center

[viral ore]

yeah theyre clueless

gpu power has nothing to do with what makes a cpu acceptable or not

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fDrKXy

[little osprey]

Bet, is the Noctua NT-H2 fine enough?

[ornate condor]

Installing noctua heatsink is nightmare lol

[viral ore]

the stock cooler would be fine probably

on the 12100?

[fossil cedar]

yeah but unless you have some lying around, arctic mx5 would be a better choice, you shouldnt have to repaste gpu tho

[little osprey]

I meant I3 aswell, looks pretty much my budget tbh

[fossil cedar]

12100 is far faster than 10100

[viral ore]

hows that board gonna handle P states tho

[little osprey]

Better safe then sorry to replace?

[ornate condor]

12100 is faster than older gen i7s lol

[fossil cedar]

Oh definitely especially with the new stock cooler

[viral ore]

assuming its just gonna lock at 65W

P1

[fossil cedar]

I mean check your temps and see

[little osprey]

Anywhere to compare to?

[viral ore]

compare what to what

you just check temps

if they're under 80C under load, then its fine

[fossil cedar]

use hwinfo 64 or msi afterburner to check you temps while running 3dmark's demo on steam

[little osprey]

Bet

[fossil cedar]

id recommend hwinfo64 over afterburner tho as it will show gpu hotspot

[jagged ember]

or you can get both and have hwinfo display it's data through afterburner

[humble fossil]

What is the difference between the Asus b550 strix motherboards E and F

[bitter mason]

not even sure exactly tbh... most of those parts were in H500P case before that... I'll figure it out even tho I probably don't want to know

[unborn mesa]

Its cool its nice tho good job

[little osprey]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PN6sKp

How fix compatibility issue

[frank stirrup]

by ignoring it

not an issue anymore

[fossil cedar]

Well you shouldn't be buying 5600x in 2022 anyway

[little osprey]

What do u recommend lol

[desert gulch]

12400(f) is generally highly recommended

Very similar performance to 5600x for much cheaper

It's an Intel CPU tho so you'd need to remove the motherboard on your list for it to show up

[little osprey]

Does that pair well with a 3060

[desert gulch]

What's your budget for the whole build?

[little osprey]

Like over 1000

[desert gulch]

@frank stirrup wanna make a list?

I'm on mobile

[still roost]

ravixus#2796 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Like around 1500

Would there be anything wrong with getting a mid tower with that motherboard

I’ve had an issue with space last time I got that motherboard and a mid tower

[fossil cedar]

Would do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cWJ8Zw

[wheat coral]

shut it rommy youre a nerd

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[wheat coral]

iirc that cooler sucks for lga 1700

[fossil cedar]

Same just edit link with <>

[fossil cedar]

It's fine

Huhh

Will In sec

[wheat coral]

mp33 is not the best os drive but for that cheap ii guesxs

REEEE RADEON

joke thats fine

also good job doing 32gb ram

good list pato

if it were me i'd change a few things but

budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KTFtC6

minor tweaks

p31, 12600kf, lf2 280, 6750xt, z690

[fossil cedar]

Nah only saw 1200 of previous list

[wheat coral]

im ading a pack of p12s too lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TWKBv3

there

[ornate condor]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084HMHGSP?th=1&psc=1 can I use all 4 m2 slots on it ? lmao

[wheat coral]

maxxed out fan wise now

[wheat coral]

if you plug this into a x16x16 slot yes

[ornate condor]

umm idk about my mobo lines

let me check

umm idk this is my mobo https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z690-a-gaming-wifi-model/spec

[wheat coral]

im gonna go with no

itll have 8 lanes to it

and i dont know how that card works but i bet youll only be able to use 2 of those slots

if the card works well, all the slots will be 2 lanes, which is as fast as 4 pcie gen 3 lanes

[ornate condor]

yeah 2 x m2 slot means x8 line

[wheat coral]

aka get gen 4 drives if you wanna use that

[ornate condor]

4x m2 slot means x16 so no line for gpu lmao

[wheat coral]

pcie 4x8 is fine for gpu

[cyan ravine]

X4 for second slot

[ornate condor]

looks like it have extra x16 pcie3.0 line

oh let me check manual

[cyan ravine]

Actually no i might be stupid

I just woke up

Lol

[frank stirrup]

no

[desert gulch]

L

[winter marsh]

howdy ho

[wheat coral]

howdy

[fossil cedar]

or for 1500 id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F8zYXy

[wheat coral]

why no z690?

[fossil cedar]

no need

[wheat coral]

also put a p12 in there for airflow reasons

[wheat coral]

faster ram, mce

[fossil cedar]

sure

[fossil cedar]

mce?

[wheat coral]

multi core enhancement

[fossil cedar]

and no same ram capabilities

?

[wheat coral]

essentially lock 1 core boost to all cores

even if youre nto gonna oc thats big help

[fossil cedar]

ehh just remove power limits

[wheat coral]

good ssd, cooler may be a bit loud at higher power draw, good gpu but its like 10$ for the better giga model

also matx in atx case is the ugliest thing ever

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYbXfv

[ornate condor]

still couldn't understand lol Can I use 4x gen3 ssd on that pcie expansion ? if I connect to lower pcie slot

[wheat coral]

looks liek a big maybe, if not you could just return it

[winter marsh]

Case looks good but same issues I have with the MX 410

[ornate condor]

can't find proper table for how this mobo sharing pcie lines lol

its not even on manual

[fossil cedar]

It's really not, gpu will cover the diff lol

[fossil cedar]

What now

[cyan ravine]

I could barely fit a 6800 and 12700f, $20 over 1500 tho

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3njyFg

[ornate condor]

umm wanna extra few m2 slot but idk if I can use 4x m2 slot expansion or just 2

[fossil cedar]

Eh 500gb ssd in 1.5k build embarrassing tbh

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

Yeah I'd be 50 over to try fit the 1TB

[fossil cedar]

Why wouldn't it?

[fossil cedar]

12600k would shave down the 50 tho

[ornate condor]

umm idk. can I ?

[fossil cedar]

Also meh psu choicr

[cyan ravine]

Evga gq 850?

Or am I over-compensating the wattage at 850

Oh wait no it's 12600K instead

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nYhyFg

[fossil cedar]

Ye lol

[cyan ravine]

Ye that's better

Could also still bump up to that 12700F and be 20 over budget again

[fossil cedar]

Eh I'd rather go 50 over budget for 2tb

[winter marsh]

that was fun

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NRhyFg

[potent portal]

I'm assuming you'll be upgrading that 1060 to a 3080 or something right?

[winter marsh]

Actually I got in line with scalpers at my local Best Buy to purchase a RTX Asus Tuf 3080 that never came, it's been hell and high prices since then

[potent portal]

FE 3080 is a unicorn too. Maybe look at 6900 XT instead, it matches the 3090 and has been under 1k

[winter marsh]

My birthday present wasn't available and the scalpers cleared out Newegg by the time I got home

Well best Buy did have RX 5700 in stock

[potent portal]

Ew

[winter marsh]

Lol that exactly how I felt lol, I could have nailed a PNY RTX 3080 but it would have never fit in the case

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx6900xt-pgd-16g/p/N82E16814930052

[winter marsh]

Original build was on a 3600XT

Max GPU Length 330 mm

[potent portal]

The 6900XT I linked should fit your case with 80mm of clearance in the front just in case you have a liquid cooler on the front

[winter marsh]

I am presently limited to 310mm

[fossil cedar]

3080 12gb is the way too go atm actually if you're in the us imo

Seen them like 850

[potent portal]

It's that cougar gemini case right? It says 410mm

[winter marsh]

the Cougar MX 410 isn't listed on Parts Picker

[fossil cedar]

I'd probably grab this if it firs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VpJgXL/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n3080gaming-oc-12gd

[potent portal]

This one fits https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6900-xt-gv-r69xtgaming-oc-16gd/p/N82E16814932414

$950 after MIR

[winter marsh]

so after a bios pc fan increase to keep the 5800X3D from going thermal again, I picked a Arctic Freezer 2 360mm and a larger Antec case to transfer too

[potent portal]

10mm too long

[winter marsh]

Antec DA 601

or a Antec DP 502 Flux

The DA 601 is more attractive but the DP 502 comes with more fans

[next dock]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N62WGX/fractal-design-lumen-s28-rgb-78-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fd-w-l1-s2802 this cooler any good

[fossil cedar]

Damm

[winter marsh]

You know the Arctic 2 AIO is 54 idle and ramps upto 71 underload

[fossil cedar]

I'd go corsair 5000d airflow/phanteks p500a/fractal meshify 2

[fossil cedar]

It's fine, if you want rgb tho, arctic liquid freezer rgb or ek rgb would be better

[winter marsh]

I kinda miss the 1st case I built in 14+ years ago

[next dock]

performance wise is it alright though

can't seem to find many reviews of it

[fossil cedar]

Like i said it's fine but i wouldn't get it when the other 2 i mentioned are the best

And same price/cheaper

[winter marsh]

I was even trying to order the Cougar 410 Mesh front panel but I think now the 240mm can't handle the 5800X3D without an aggressive fan curve

[next dock]

mp33 vs pro model? is it just faster speeds

[winter marsh]

I was using Asus Fan Expert 4 and it went nuclear and shutdown

I let it cool off and set the fan speeds in bios

cpu is great in Star Wars Squadrons even on a GTX 1060 I hit max fps

in MMo's however the 5600X matches it because of the GTX 1660 Super

[fossil cedar]

Pro is slight improvement

[fossil cedar]

I'd recommend just tuning case fans and cpu fan in bios, and uninstall any windows software to do it and then control your fan speeds with msi afterburner

[winter marsh]

I wont touch an M.2 until they improve the life cycles vs standard ssd

[viral ore]

what on earth

[potent portal]

What are you talking about

M.2 drives have the same or better TBW rating compared to sata