building-and-recc-chat

[sharp belfry]

Yo I was looking back over the list, which is the cooler thank goes on top of the CPU

I may be dumb, but this is my first pc build ever so 😅

[worn wave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zr8bt6/id-cooling-se-214-xt-argb-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb Is what Bacca suggested it seems.

[sharp belfry]

Ah ok I missed that, he said if you want. Do I need it?

[winter marsh]

It’s not like keep the packaging around

[mossy venture]

A heatsink came in the box with the 12400

It'll be fine enough

[sharp belfry]

Cool thanks.

[humble fossil]

RTX 10000

[rain bloom]

Quick question, I just did a user benchmark and my GPU is under normal and my RAM is way under normal. Any ideas why this may be?

[stoic island]

ubm kinda sucks?

in general, xmp

Below average is meh, 50% of things are below average, doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it

[rain bloom]

Is there a better free option?

[rain bloom]

My XMP profile said it was running at 3000, which is the package speed

I’m also running a 1660 Super so I’m assuming it’s below average from when the card is brand new

[little osprey]

a card does not get worse performance as it ages

its not a mechanical object

other than the fans of course

[earnest olive]

!ubm

[still roost]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[earnest olive]

if more than 0 people are overclocking, than a not-overclocked 1660 super is below average by default

3200mhz ram is also considered entry-level nowadays so yeah 3000 is below that

but please don't use userbenchmark

[rain bloom]

Duly noted

[rain bloom]

I’ll try this passmark thing, thanks for the heads up. Someone was asking me about benching so I just went looking for software

[little osprey]

3dmark is cool for benching

theres a free demo on steam

[earnest olive]

3dmark would be best for testing your own system

passmark is cool for a quick "okay how's i5-11400 vs i7-11700" without owning the hardware

[little osprey]

i find youtube more useful because i only really care about gaming performance

intel ark is nice as well but its just specifications

[rain bloom]

Free demo huh?

[little osprey]

Yeah

[rain bloom]

I’ll give it a try I think. Thank you everyone

I call my build the 1080p king lol

[little osprey]

what cpu

[rain bloom]

5600x

[little osprey]

Damn nice

9400f / 1650 here

1080p peasant 💀

[rain bloom]

If I can play the games, I will play the games. Plus I’m about to go to grad school next year, after that I can build a tricked out rig

And ya know, little time for gaming

70 C isn’t too hot under benchmark for CPU right?

[honest glade]

anyone willing to tear apart a build i'm planning for my little sister?

[little osprey]

eh its getting up there but its fine i think

my temps are always garbage because i have an HP case

[little osprey]

Like you want someone here to do it for you?

[rain bloom]

I’m thinking I need more fans. My case is surprisingly good for the price

[little osprey]

which case?

[rain bloom]

Cougar Air I believe it’s called

[little osprey]

ah yes

insane value

[honest glade]

hah, or to tell me my "build" is trash.

[little osprey]

Well im not sure if anyone here can do it for you lol

[honest glade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RkwHW4

[little osprey]

we're just people behind a computer screen

Ah i see what you meant

Its not bad, a couple parts are questionable for why you picked them but otherwise i think your sister will be very satisfied with it

[honest glade]

she's been using a broken laptop for the past 2 years, cant even play the 2-4th Assassin credd games, the Battery is shot, and she cant find a replacment.

[little osprey]

This will definitely make her happy

Even though its on igpu

Do you plan to grab a graphics card down the line?

[honest glade]

thats the hope. the Fans were chozen to pair with the Cooler, i wasnt sure how much colling she'd need, but hoped she'd be pleased with the options to change her collors.

thinking it'll need it sooner or later.

tleaving that to her to ask for when that time comes. she's on a budjet right now of 200, i set my limit at 600, but i've seen the GPU market go up and down.

[little osprey]

You could probably grab an rx6600 ($300 ish) or an rtx3050 ($249)

used gpus are getting cheap though

[honest glade]

that was the plan.

what parts were you concerned about with my Build as-is?

[little osprey]

the ram is known to underperform i think

not 100% sure but its not the best

its fine for the average user though

[honest glade]

i was also looking at Gskill Ripjaws, since it's a bit cheaper. i wasnt sure though

[little osprey]

for the storage, you could have stretched the budget like $10 more and got 512gb mp33

power supply is quite hefty for the rest of the parts

[desert gulch]

I feel like the cooler won't be enough, personally

[little osprey]

that too

[desert gulch]

Even tho it's locked cause b560

[little osprey]

it'll just run a little hot and probably thermal throttle a little as well

[honest glade]

the PSU is currently instock, under my bed, i figured i'd be Future proffing the box for the GPU down the line.

[little osprey]

Makes sense then

its a great power supply as well

[honest glade]

thanks, i felt lucky when i found it

[rain bloom]

For 3Dmark should I be doing something like firestrike?

[earnest olive]

time spy

you can compare to my 1660 super result

[rain bloom]

I’ll run that after this is done since I already started it lol

[earnest olive]

just compare graphics score

oh i have a fire strike result for that pc too actually

[little osprey]

fire strike makes your pc look better

[rain bloom]

Mine was just a bit lower than your fire strike, I think it was like 15011

I’m trying time spy now

5600x versus 3700x make a huge difference?

[earnest olive]

just look at graphics score

[rain bloom]

Perfect, I’ll check after time spy

[earnest olive]

i can tell you my old 5600x got 9235 cpu score in time spy

[rain bloom]

Graphics score 6105, CPU 7523, overall 6282

Seems notably lower?

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

i was overclocking

i never run hardware at stock

even my laptop isn't safe

my laptop cpu scores higher than my liquid cooled 5800x

[rain bloom]

Ah. I would melt if I tried to overclock with my current rig

[earnest olive]

lol

my laptop literally makes sparking sounds when i push it

happens when you force it to sustain triple its design power to run 4.6ghz on 8 cores

[rain bloom]

I bet. My laptop is already on its last legs, I’ll leave it be lol. And yes, that sounds like a recipe for sparks

[earnest olive]

performs like a beast though

beats desktop 5800x + 3060ti while costing $1265 including a 240hz screen in that price

[rain bloom]

If I’m getting up to the 70s for temp during bench should I buy more fans?

[earnest olive]

70 is good

stock thermal limit is 83

most cards will allow adjustment up to 91-92

[rain bloom]

My CPU capped at 74, GPU capped at 73

During the test

[earnest olive]

for ryzen cpu stock thermal limit is 90

your temps are fine

[rain bloom]

Very nice lol

And it sounds like for not over locking my stuff is doing a good job?

[earnest olive]

also, most of the time gpu overclocking doesn't produce a large increase in temps/power

especially on something like a 1660S

one form of overclocking (called undervolting) even aims to reduce temps/power without sacrificing performance or minimizing performance loss

for instance i can push my strix 3090 to 3090ti performance at 3090ti levels of power draw (480W)

or i can keep it at 3090 performance at 3070 levels of power draw (270W)

[rain bloom]

Oh, that’s interesting

Once I land a higher paying job I’m gonna start looking at some upgrades

First is keyboard and mouse

Then probably a better monitor

Then either an NVME ssd or better Ram

[earnest olive]

don't bother with ram upgrade before gpu upgrade imo

you're currently going to be too gpu bottlenecked for it to matter

could probably overclock your current ram to 3733mhz or so if you ever decide you hate yourself enough to get into ram overclocking

i've taken random 3000mhz prebuilt mystery ram up to 3733c18

[rain bloom]

But I’m assuming it’s not that much of a difference with my setup?

[earnest olive]

depends on game

with ram overclocking you can often see improvements to your 1% lows even while gpu bound

but not worth spending money on a new kit before gpu still imo

[rain bloom]

The most demanding game I can think of that I play at this moment is Destiny 2 lol. I’ll be experimenting more over this year but I can always lower the settings before I start micromanaging everything

[snow trail]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X7gmC6 Looking to upgrade to a whole new system from a 1080 to 3060ti. Please let me know what I should change to optimize anything needed.

[stoic island]

It's a good start, do you plan on OCing?

[snow trail]

sorry is OCing overclocking?

[stoic island]

Yea

[snow trail]

ive never tried on any of my systems

so probably not

do you recommend it?

I could go up in price if needed

my budget is around $2000

[stoic island]

Oh you can do better than 3060ti at that budget

[snow trail]

what gpu would you suggest?

3070ti?

[stoic island]

To start with editing this, this would offer you the same performance and save you money, just no OCing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DmHDjZ

[snow trail]

and the pc will be doing lots of flight sim related stuff.

microsoft flight sim 2020

[stoic island]

Considering you'd have 1100$ left in the budget for a GPU, you can definitely do a 3080

Like this for 850$
https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-10g-lhr/p/N82E16814137677

[snow trail]

should I still try to get a founders 3080 for cheaper?

I know they are hard to get

[stoic island]

With a 3080, the list could look like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2MdYd9

I mean, if you can, sure, it saves you 150$, but I haven't heard of a bb drop in a while

[snow trail]

Ok

flight sim could handle this well?

and just casual work and other games like val

@stoic island

[stoic island]

mhm

[snow trail]

Ok

and no OCing

thanks!

[stoic island]

Won't be able to overclock CPU

[snow trail]

what does OCing do?

I know there are risks

[stoic island]

You just mess around with settings until you get something better than you started with, telling components to run faster than they typically would

[snow trail]

why wouldnt the manufacturer automatically set that?

[stoic island]

The problem for manufacturers is how different parts coming out of the same factory at the same time can behave slightly differently, let's look at an imaginary example, a one CPU might be able to do 5.0ghz at 1.3v, while the next CPU that comes out of the fab might only be able to do 4.8ghz at 1.3v

Intel does have TVB and various other boosting things, which goes off a Voltage/Frequency curve and the temperature of the CPU, to run at a predetermined higher clock than usual should conditions allow for it

Manual overclocking involves tweaking beyond that, to try and find a higher frequency that is stable

Intel wouldn't be able to get away with selling products that are unstable out of box

And while at stock, the CPU might only boost to lets say 4.8ghz at 1.3v, but you can test doing 5ghz at 1.3v, and see if that' stable

If it is stable with no other complications, great, you get a bit more performance at no cost

But since not every CPU can do that, Intel can't just go make every one of their CPUs do that out of the box

[snow trail]

ah I see

[dense palm]

Well all my stuff are finally here

Just waiting for some case fans which I can prob put in later

So how much thermal paste do I need to apply

[ornate condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-nutella-nutella-chocolate-thermal-paste-meme-gif-24395210

[dense palm]

[leaden plume]

Why cant my pcie cables connect to my gpu

[mossy venture]

which end did you put into the psu

[leaden plume]

The side that doesnt say pcie

[mossy venture]

is it a pin that splits into 6 and 2?

that one goes into the gpu

[vapid jolt]

I received my psu it says proof of purchase for the rebate forms is this the proof thing

[fossil cedar]

Proof of purchase = receipt

[vapid jolt]

What recipt

It didn't come with one

The thing on the newegg box?

[fossil cedar]

The one you got emailed

When you paid for the order

[vapid jolt]

?

Oh ok

[vapid jolt]

I received no email with a receipt just ones telling me they removed the order

[fossil cedar]

Huh

[vapid jolt]

Is it invoice?

Cause I have a invoice number for the order

[frigid night]

Not sure where he is at in the world, but Proof of Purchase here in The US is the UPC Barcode.

[vapid jolt]

I'm in the us

Whays a upcoming barcode

Upc

[frigid night]

The UPC Barcode is that bottom barcode in that pic that you sent. By sending that in with your invoice that is how they know that you bought the item. Otherwise anyone could easily just use a fake invoice without the barcode or they could come across a barcode somewhere and not have an invoice saying they bought it.,

Invoice = receipt
UPC = Proof of Purchase

[vapid jolt]

Ahh ok so cut that out of the box or take a picture

[vapid jolt]

This one right

[frigid night]

in most cases they will want the physical copy of it

[vapid jolt]

Ok

[frigid night]

make sure you take a picture for your own records though

[vapid jolt]

Ok

State the invoice to it also right?

[frigid night]

otherwise anyone could just grab a pic of it off the internet and claim it is theirs.

[frigid night]

Where did you buy the item from?

[vapid jolt]

Newegg

[frigid night]

ok so Newegg will have the terms of your rebate

[vapid jolt]

I have the invoice

[frigid night]

you'll need to go to your orders and find it.. That will state the proper procedure to get your rebate.. if you don't follow it to a T, then you may very well not get your rebate./

Each company has it's own way of doing a rebate.

You HAVE to follow it to a T

[vapid jolt]

What's a t

[little osprey]

yo sup

[frigid night]

Dot your I's and cross your Ts

It's a figure of speech. Basically if you don't follow exactly how they want it then they will deny your rebate

[vapid jolt]

Oh so I can't just staple the invoice to it

[frigid night]

Go to your invoice

and see what they wantt

a lot of places will have you print off a paper to go with it

[vapid jolt]

Ok

Thankd

Thanks

[frigid night]

no problem. If you have any questions or need help finding the invoice you can DM me,.

[vapid jolt]

Ok 👍

[frigid night]

rebate*

[indigo maple]

What is better the 6900xt or the 3080

[mossy venture]

are you building a new pc?

[fiery sable]

Hello, so I’m new to building my own computer, and I was wondering if the parts I’ve selected will work properly with each other and if there might be any problems when I go to start building my pc, or if I need anymore parts. I have already bought the case and power-supply.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xYcrMb

[indigo maple]

Yeah I’m building one for my friend

[desert gulch]

It's really really expensive for the performance you're getting

[mossy venture]

whats the budget?

[mossy venture]

whats the budget?

[desert gulch]

Looks to be $5k

[fiery sable]

Currently rn im saving up to order the parts I need, I just want to make sure it’ll all work together properly before I start ordering the rest

[mossy venture]

there is no point in most of the parts in the build list

so im asking for a budget so i can make you a build list

[fiery sable]

Ok, uhh I guess 3-4k

And I already have the case and power supply

[mossy venture]

do you want a white theme?

what psu

[fiery sable]

Yes

[mossy venture]

also what case

[fiery sable]

The same ones in that list

[mossy venture]

i would return the psu

[fiery sable]

May I ask why?

[mossy venture]

its not great

its B tier, which i would not run a 3090 on

[fiery sable]

Ah ok, well I don’t really need a 3090, plus Idk if I’ll be able to return it as I bought it a while back

[mossy venture]

case is super super overpriced, but if you really want it whatever

[mossy venture]

i wouldnt run anything over a 3070 on it tbh

[fiery sable]

Case I got for $112

The price went up a lot after I got mine

[mossy venture]

ah ok

good price then

im assuming you want the best of the best, so i left the 3090 in, but tbh theres like 8% difference between it and a 3080 12gb https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TkLxgb

and id also do 12700k over 12900k, but again if you want the best of the best and dont care about cost, go for it

[fiery sable]

Ok thx

[earnest olive]

12900KS/DDR5/420mm AIOs/3090Ti: am i a joke to you?

[mossy venture]

idk any good 420mm white aios

[earnest olive]

fair enough

[mossy venture]

3090 ti is useless over 3090

[fiery sable]

Could you do one with the case and power supply I already have so I can see the price difference, I don’t really mind which gpu I get

[dense palm]

So after installing my psu I found more power cables

[mossy venture]

and good ddr4> ddr5

[earnest olive]

so is 12900KS vs 12700K but hey best of the best right

[dense palm]

Are those extra cables?

[earnest olive]

not true

[mossy venture]

thats what i said

[mossy venture]

.

[earnest olive]

top end ddr5 defeats b-die

[mossy venture]

:p

[earnest olive]

by an insignificant amount

but

best of the best with unlimited budget

🙂

[mossy venture]

i really wouldnt run a 3090 on it with the transients it has

[dense palm]

Imagine having unlimited budget

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t3Fh78

[dense palm]

So I had extra power cables with my earthwatt psu

Is that used if I need more

Or do I plug it inp

[earnest olive]

don't have to imagine just sell your car and home and do it

[earnest olive]

i don't understand this question

you need what you need lol

save the unused cables if you want to upgrade later and might need them

[dense palm]

Ah I see kk

Was wondering if I have to plug them in right away

[earnest olive]

that would defeat the purpose of being modular

[dense palm]

Going home soon. Please help be later

Picked up my cpu cooler

So everything but 2 case fans are here

[indigo maple]

2000

[mossy venture]

alr, one sec

[indigo maple]

I also saw a 6900xt for $899

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x6R8Q6 or https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mrVXRv

could do a liquid freezer ii 280/360 if wanted, could also add more storage

@indigo maple

[indigo maple]

Would it be a big difference in cooling if I went with the liquid freezer ii 280

[mossy venture]

wouldnt be huge, but maybe worth it

[analog pulsar]

DDR5 is expenzive

[dense palm]

Which direction does artic fans move airflow

Would air be coming in or out for this one

Those are the phantek fans that came with it

And I installed the arctic fan in the same direction

Or do the fans have to point the other direction?

[analog pulsar]

#build-pics
@earnest olive website when?????

when will we be able to buy pcs off the famous orange mushroom

[dense palm]

Ok need to install the fans the other direction for arctic

[desert gulch]

So is your whole proposed build list 💀

[analog pulsar]

no

[desert gulch]

Yes

[analog pulsar]

no

[desert gulch]

Yes

[analog pulsar]

no

[ornate condor]

is there any white x570 mobo

[analog pulsar]

hm

[earnest olive]

i don't really wanna ship more if i can avoid it

[analog pulsar]

why

[earnest olive]

stressful

[analog pulsar]

oh

[desert gulch]

Sips ship me a PC with a 3090 and aio installed

Please don't use packaging since that wastes money, but make sure it gets here in perfect condition

Btw I live on the other side of the world

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive sips can you help me translate DDR5 good memory speeds

[ornate condor]

6000mhz cl40

[analog pulsar]

like ik for DDR4 anything above 3600 is good with CL16

[ornate condor]

I have 6000mhz cl40 rams

And overclocking it to 6400mhz 30-37-37

[earnest olive]

6400c32 is top of the line for XMP right now

for overclocking just make sure you get hynix ICs

[analog pulsar]

well i dont mean top line like good for gaming

[cyan ravine]

Anything like, 6000+ is usually one of two good IC's, mismatched xmp timings is usually hynix which is pog

[analog pulsar]

is this good

[ornate condor]

Hell no

[earnest olive]

tbh if you're not getting top of the line ddr5 just get ddr4 lol

no reason to buy something like 6000c36 or worse

[analog pulsar]

okay

[ornate condor]

5200cl40 is eww

[analog pulsar]

lol

[ornate condor]

XPG Lancer RGB is Hynix M die

[mossy venture]

Why do you even want ddr5

[ornate condor]

Ddr5> ddr4

[earnest olive]

this would be like buying 2666c18 ddr4

lol

[analog pulsar]

well they have this but i want something that comes into 64GB size and I wanmted to see price diffrence from the DDR4 kit i have rn

[analog pulsar]

oh

[mossy venture]

12700f+msi b660+32gb4000c18 for $130 or 32gb 3200c16 for $100

[cyan ravine]

Kingston 6000 C40's have a high hit rate of hynix ic's for cheap

[analog pulsar]

i dont care about money i just want best system

[mossy venture]

Cheap and ddr5 do not belong in the same sentence

[analog pulsar]

DDR5 go brrrrrrrrrrrr

[ornate condor]

XPG Lancer DDR5 RGB 6000MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL40-40-40 UDIMM 288-Pins Desktop SDRAM Memory RAM Kit (AX5U6000C4016G-DCLARBK) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NCR1ZGK/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_CN4M26GP7R70QY4PCM1N

I got this one

[cyan ravine]

truth but relatively speaking it's better

[mossy venture]

Unless you're spending $500 on a single kit of ddr5, ddr4 is better

[analog pulsar]

okay

[mossy venture]

Not caring about money is why you had to sell your 3080 ti build

[analog pulsar]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[cyan ravine]

2 sets of these I went through were samsung, 1 hynix but died to bad psu

[ornate condor]

Good ddr4 rams are over 200$ for 32gb kit anyways so 270-280$ to ddr5 ram is not sounds bad to me

[mossy venture]

Depends what qualifies as good

4000c18 kit is $130 rn

And is same as 3600c16 (similar anyways)

[earnest olive]

you can get 32gb b-die for $200 or less

[mossy venture]

My 32gb Rev e was $95 after tax

I think Rev e is the right term

3200c16 from crucial

[analog pulsar]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374049?Item=N82E16820374049&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-2qfhPA71PXDjWFaJSGqJ9w theres this DDR4 kit

[dense palm]

Is this set up so air is coming in or out

[earnest olive]

good rev. e with an oc is really nice

[earnest olive]

in

[dense palm]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqbTwP/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-4000-cl18-memory-f4-4000c18d-32gvk

[dense palm]

The arctic fans are set up the other way so confused

[mossy venture]

Why do you even want 64gb

I dont even use 24 while gaming

[ornate condor]

64gb> 32gb

[mossy venture]

Gaming and streaming, that is

[dense palm]

Not… enough… RAMS…

[analog pulsar]

and thats you

[mossy venture]

Your point being?

[dense palm]

Gotta run 30 chrome tabs

[mossy venture]

If you're gaming, 64gb is pointless

[analog pulsar]

thats your usage not mine

[mossy venture]

Then what's your usage?

Coding? Vms?

[analog pulsar]

im not explaining again

[ornate condor]

Wait you got 2 kit and they had different die ?

[mossy venture]

👍

Gl with the build kenzie

[cyan ravine]

Yup. Died to overvoltage of a bad PSU when I was building it

[mossy venture]

I have too much of a headache to deal with this

[desert gulch]

Want more of a headache?

[analog pulsar]

yea thats why im not explaining bc its just gunna give you a bigger one bc you are gunna tell me that i dont need something and im not gunna listen sooooooooooo

[ornate condor]

Oof . I want to add another kit but I wonder if it will be same die now

[cyan ravine]

If you got hynix in that adata kit I'd leave it lol

[mossy venture]

Telling you that you don't need something because you don't need it is quite literally- nevermind

Bye

[cyan ravine]

It's hard to run 4 dimms of ddr5 rn anyway

[ornate condor]

I had set 1.6V accidentally when I overclock it but it survived lol

[analog pulsar]

I'm already set on all my parts and what i want i dont need advice on what i need i just wanted to know price diffrence of DDR4 and DDR5

[cyan ravine]

My psu was bad, it worked but killed a bunch of parts in the process

[ornate condor]

Oof

[cyan ravine]

Significant

For like

[ornate condor]

DDr4 to ddr5 is like 10-15% difference for now

[cyan ravine]

3%

Gains

[ornate condor]

On rendering

[analog pulsar]

I got someone from this server to build the list for me so thats good enough for me that are okay with what im buying but when i post the damn list everyone things they need to change the list to fit a budget

[mossy venture]

There is no way I can respond to this without being rude

So I am not going to

[cyan ravine]

Also I feel like getting a 3090 Ti now is a bit sketch when the rumours are abuzz about new gpu's in <4 months

[mossy venture]

40 series rumored to launch mid July

[cyan ravine]

If true, that's 8 weeks away

Always take with a grain of salt though

[analog pulsar]

I'm not trying to be ignorant but what I choose for my pc is good parts that will last me through out the years before I need to upgrade again yes some stuff I can get cheaper but I'm not looking for cheaper I'm looking for high performance with high capacity with RGB on it with also great airflow

[cyan ravine]

Yeah well, you can get a significant boost just by waiting for a bit longer, also with Zen 4 so close as well

[analog pulsar]

Well I'm not building rn pato did inform me 13th gen is coming out

[ornate condor]

13900k 5.8ghz

[analog pulsar]

Aldo zen 4 is ddr5 I heard

[ornate condor]

Probably

[analog pulsar]

So I might just stick with intel

[ornate condor]

Idk why people have criticism about ddr5 lol

[cyan ravine]

Then I wouldn't pinpoint on certain ddr5 kits now, they will get better later

[mossy venture]

Being good parts doesn't mean that they're not stupid to buy or that there isn't better for the price

[mossy venture]

Because it's expensive

[ornate condor]

It's still better than replace mobo later for upgrade it

[analog pulsar]

Well Fal picked out 64GB 4000 ram for me and that's best ram there is

[mossy venture]

Not bouta pay $300 for a low end kit of ddr5 that's worse than a $130 4000c18 kit

[mossy venture]

K

[ornate condor]

Lol 300$ ddr5 is not lowend

[mossy venture]

Who said you'd be buying a new mobo for the same cpu

If I go to 13th gen, I'm keeping my kit of ddr4 and won't be changing mobo, ram, or cpu till 16th gen/amd equivelang or newer

[ornate condor]

For 300$ you can get very good ddr5 32gb kit

[mossy venture]

Not better than 4000c18 of the same size

And its still more than double the price

Not worth it whatsoever

[cyan ravine]

I mean it's fair to say the point remains in a couple years time there will be likely better kits for lower prices

As DDR5 reaches a more matured point

[mossy venture]

Yeah definitely

[cyan ravine]

We are still in early adoption

[ornate condor]

Ddr4 probably gonna dead next year

After am5 and 13th gen

[mossy venture]

Ddr3 isn't dead lol

Why would ddr4 be dead

[ornate condor]

I'm pretty sure 14th gen gonna be ddr5 only

[cyan ravine]

The 6000 kits rn will definitely be lowend in DDR5's life in the long run though

[mossy venture]

Unless you mean it won't be used by future generations

[cyan ravine]

32gb as well, who's to say how long that'll last, waiting for chrome to bump up the ram usage

[mossy venture]

16gb is still usable

[ornate condor]

16gb is not even enough for some games

[cyan ravine]

Yeah but like, 5 years from now, 32gb will probably be difficult lol

[mossy venture]

32gb is nice to have, not needed though

[mossy venture]

I ran cold war at max settings while streaming with discord and Chrome open and didn't pass 14gb

[ornate condor]

I see some games using more than 16gb ram

[mossy venture]

Games use more when you have more

[ornate condor]

Dying light 2 is one of them

[mossy venture]

Cold war now eats about 13 whereas it used to use around 7

Maybe 12

Since i upgraded from 16gb

[ornate condor]

Dying light 2 at 2k max settings with RT using 18gb ram alone

I mean if you not want to go through to find exact same ram in near future, just get 32gb kit lol

[analog pulsar]

@mossy venture I'm just gunna say one more thing I had 32GB ram on my nzxt pc and I ran out of ram with that pc when I gave 3 vms 8GB ram and I ran them all the vms are for the people who can't afford to buy a pc like I can like the i3 3220 pc I'm probs gunna run a VM on that and share my pc power with that pc so at least the pc can play game if they want too

My stepdad has a ryzen 5 3500U laptop that has igpu that cant really run games that good so what I do is I turn my pc into a gamer server I just cut my gpu and give 25% of the gpu to him and I would like to say it worked instead of playing the game at low settings looking horrible he was able to play at high settings while I used my pc as well we both played games and was able to pay together maybe 32GB can be okay bit I also habe a lot of background task that eat up ram as well

[ornate condor]

I don't think 16gb gonna last for long so I would not recommend building with 16gb if you not upgrading frequently

[analog pulsar]

Also the current pc I'm on which is i7 3770 with 1050 ti can run games but if person wants to run games at higher settings or any other games they might be limited to what they can play

[little osprey]

Play Fallout New Vegas. Great game! 👍

Runs on a potato

[strong raft]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but this rear fan is backwards.

[strong raft]

13th gen is basically ddr5 only, except if it'll be used on a ddr 4 600 series mobo.

[analog pulsar]

oh

well then

[strong raft]

[south cliff]

Should I buy the 3070 ti for 750 or wait till next gen and might have another inflated market

[strong raft]

USA? That's $50+ over what the asus tuf usually is, and a good non-ti can match the 70 ti anyways. Plus, there's the point about 290w tdp vs 220w tdp (mainly from the gddr6X)

[south cliff]

Well that’s what it was last time I saw on Newegg

[unborn mesa]

guys i got a good mount on cpu cooler finally

[south cliff]

Nice

[strong raft]

Yea even amazon doesn't have it any cheaper currently, so basically it's not the time to buy one. non-ti 70 is often a full $100 less though, that's what I'd aim for. edit: just an example: $600 for plain 3fan gigabyte eagle https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-gv-n3070eagle-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932451

[deft solar]

Damn

[scarlet rampart]

what's a good cheap-ish 1 TB M.2-2280

[strong raft]

sn570, MP33/34, or check pcpartpicker and sort by price. There's many nowadays that I can't recall.

[little osprey]

1tb mp33 is always $70-80

[desert gulch]

A60/a2000 too

[scarlet rampart]

anyone know where I can get a 2060-3060 gpu for a decent price?

is this a good build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G2F9C6

[unborn mesa]

Ebay ,Facebook marketplace after you try to lower then

[vale mango]

I think the GA model of the psu is bad

[strong raft]

craigslist maybe, but also R/hws if lucky (because everyone there isn't as "dumb" as ebay, etc.

[frigid night]

You better be giving kiki tons of head pats.

:P

Oh

Can you even pet her?

[fossil cedar]

No idea what that is but a receipt is always proof of purchase

[frigid night]

In the US a receipt just shows that you bought something, but "proof of purchase" is the barcode.

[fossil cedar]

Showing that you bought something is proof of purchase tho......

[frigid night]

Yes/no

Its a security deal to require the barcode as well as receipt because a person could have 1 or the other and not actually have bought the item and still get a rebate/refund/etc

https://help-desk.advanceautoparts.com/s/article/What-is-a-proof-of-purchase-for-rebates

I know its a car deal, but it applies.

[strong raft]

Ok to add gas on the fire: Receipt is literally proof of purchase, but perhaps not by itself sometimes. -- Although yes for some situations, barcode is proof of purchase (send copy/pic of it for mail in rebate or something). Pato, upc is universal product code or something like that. I'd have to Google to confirm and explain it.

[still roost]

Vanya#0001 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[frigid night]

The heck..

Lame.

[strong raft]

In the past I actually cut the barcode off a mobo box to mail in for rebate 🤣

[frigid night]

Well...

The 3 rebates I did required the actual barcode.

They wouldn't accept a picture or copy.

So I had to actually cut them out to get the rebates.

[ornate condor]

Another gigatrash product and another issue

Just got X570S Vision mobo and built it with 5950x but no any light

[frigid night]

G27q is quite good.

[fossil cedar]

I see but that's just proof you have the item not that you bought it

[strong raft]

Possession is 9/10 of the law, lol (old saying). Yea that's the funny thing about the barcode itself, doesn't exactly prove purchase/ownership. Various companies definitely have different ways of doing rebates. Been a while since I tried one.

[ornate condor]

I think that X570S is doa

[cyan ravine]

X570s aero g?

[ornate condor]

Vision

Oh it is aero lol

Vision was b550

[cyan ravine]

It's got 4 post lights that all flash up red in the middle right, nothing from them?

Usually that board like

Makes the fans go nuts

Then calms itself down

During post

[ornate condor]

No any light sadly

[cyan ravine]

She might indeed be doa

Sadge

[ornate condor]

Want to try update bios but didn't work either

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I used like F3D iirc, it was kinda meh in my experience but I think I was cpu limited for the ram oc

Only 3733 fclk

[ornate condor]

This is 3 out of 3 fail from gigatrash

[cyan ravine]

I would swap for B550 vision if you haven't already tried it

And/or not have gigglebit trauma

[ornate condor]

Bought z590 mobo it was doa, got 3080 aorus master and failed after 2 months , and another doea mobo

[cyan ravine]

Jeez

Did the 3080 warranty go smoothly at least?

[ornate condor]

And fun part is that 3080 was rebelled as refurbished before I bought it as brand new lol

Yeah RMA sent me new one couse refurbished items not repairing again lol

[cyan ravine]

Oh well that's an ok end result at least

Better than never hearing from them at one point not too long ago

[ornate condor]

Lol

But selling refurbished items as new is something scummy

[cyan ravine]

It doesn't surprise me though I've had a few gigachad failures

2 ssd's and one of the psu bombs (before it was known to be bad)

It ocp tripped itself until it stopped turning on at all

So I consider myself a bit lucky

Nothing else damaged, I got it warrantied and forked extra over for an rm850x

[ornate condor]

Alright updating my companies to avoid list
#1 Gigabyte
#2 Zotac
#3 Biostrar
#4 Asrock
#5 MSI

Lol I got that gigatrash hazard 750w bomb as part of combo from shuffle too

[cyan ravine]

Mine was in a pre-built, had no idea until later

[ornate condor]

[cyan ravine]

The 3080 survived though

[ornate condor]

Luckily I heard before using it and sold it lol

[cyan ravine]

Hmm what could you get instead for the price of the vision g

Maybe crosshair

[ornate condor]

Sadly there's no another white x570 but there's few white b550

[cyan ravine]

Like vision lmao

[ornate condor]

But idk if pairing 5950x with b550vis good idea lol

[cyan ravine]

It's fine

B550 is ultimately the better conventional chipset for normal people anyway

Esp. gigabyte b550

Best ram oc

[ornate condor]

I think b550 vision is ECC too

But I definitely gonna avoid it anyways lol

[cyan ravine]

You could also take something like a dark hero and paint the heatsinks

Seen a few people do that

[ornate condor]

[white depot]

ok hi

im back

yeah at this point i might just buy a whole new pc again

😔

so any cpu mobo recommendations?

i wont upgrade my 780 untill it dies

comepletely

also amd or intel?

[mossy venture]

Tf did msi do lmao

And how is msi on there and corsair isnt

Gigabyte also makes good mobos

[strong raft]

I'll say perhaps 12100(F) & a decent cheapish 600 series mobo. 12400(F) even better of possible (4core vs 6core). Am4 is nearly eoL, but certain cpus are pretty good & there's good deals sometimes huh

[ornate condor]

I bought 2 mobo from gigabyte recently and both was doa lol

[ornate condor]

Msi was on top of that list actually lol but I put that to 5th after too many said that lol

I avoid Msi couse their public policy sux they gust bribing to reviewers to give good reviews to them

[winter marsh]

I have never had any issues with MSI mobos and have a few, Z97, B450, and a new B550

[obsidian wigeon]

MSI doesn't do that anymore tbh

Their marketing team was a nightmare, but not anymore

It's just an old thing

[ornate condor]

What about NZXT mobos 🤔

Never had any but their b550 mobo looka amazing

[worn wave]

NZXT motherboards are just overpriced crap for the specs

[ornate condor]

This looks good https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091BJ65L7/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_EG7A00BE7FC5VXEMWWZW

[worn wave]

They look very nice and minimal but it's to attract "gamers" because many are willing to buy it just for the looks

[ornate condor]

I want white too

There's lots of white mobos for intel but no any good white mobo for AMD

[obsidian wigeon]

The N7 is decent

Just overpriced

[ornate condor]

I was hoping build it today but doa gigatrash mobo ruined it

[winter marsh]

@ornate condor My locally purchased Asus FX990 Sabertooth, and PSU was both DOA out of the box, I took it back to CompUSA and had to disassemble it for replacements.

[cyan ravine]

Really B550 Vision is the only decent white board

Otherwise as I said, get a crosshair and paint it

[ornate condor]

Yes but no any gigabyte for me

[cyan ravine]

You'd be better off for the trouble lol

[ornate condor]

I surprised Asus ROG Strix series don't have white AMD mobo

[cyan ravine]

Strix b550 exists but it's very meh

[winter marsh]

NZXT N7 B550 - AMD Motherboard - Matte White

[ornate condor]

Yes I'm looking for that one currently

But I think it's Asrock oem actually lol

Couse it have asrock bios

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F9VP2RC/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_K0E848DN6V0GBY532G4G hmm

Why this one is so cheap

[winter marsh]

NZXT N7 Z590 - N7-Z59XT-W1 - Intel Z590 chipset (Supports 11th Gen CPUs) - ATX Gaming Motherboard

[fossil cedar]

The intel version sucks

[ornate condor]

God has spoken lol

[fossil cedar]

N7 b550 -good, z590 💩

[stoic island]

They used ASRock crappy board for z590 iirc

[cyan ravine]

Honestly I have no idea about the b550 N7 so trust pato

[stoic island]

The one that throttled 11900k stock

[ornate condor]

Alright . Looking decent white mobo for 5950x. and no gigabyte pls

[winter marsh]

I am an Asus fanboy

[ornate condor]

Only see NZXT and Asus b550 but idk about it

https://tenor.com/view/cocaine-strix-gang-strix-3090-rtx-white-gif-22429477

[ornate condor]

Me too lol

By own build is almost full asus

Asus mobo , white strix 3090, asus LC360 aio

[mossy venture]

I'm a whatever works and isn't overpriced to all hell fanboy

So I avoid strix because of the latter reason

[winter marsh]

Asus Tuf Keyboard, Asus X570 Tuf Gaming Plus WiFi, want a Asus RTX 3080 Tuf Gaming V2 OC card, but skipped on Asus AIO

Will be retiring my Logitech Headset and mouse for Asus manufactured

I need coffee or sleep

[frigid night]

I vote sleep

[winter marsh]

the kid playing Fortnight voted cup coffee

or is it fortnite, don't know just know I hate the game

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm a value fanboy

I can cope with wack qc

But if it gets too much I'd refund lol

I'd expect at least okay warranty service

[mossy venture]

The issue with no longer buying from a company after one or two f ups, is I would no longer be buying from evga

Every company has issues, or bad models, or will have some stuff doa, no company will be perfect

[obsidian wigeon]

Same, I wouldn't avoid one brand just cause they have a problem in the past

[analog pulsar]

the Z590 was great

[obsidian wigeon]

If they don't improve however.. that's bad

well z590 n7 board is crap

it's made by asrock

the vrms are just trash

[vague oracle]

Didn’t it throttle on a 11600K?

[obsidian wigeon]

idk why asrock messes up on intel so badly lately

[analog pulsar]

it isnt i had a i9 11th gen it and it was fine

[obsidian wigeon]

they make decent amd boards

[analog pulsar]

only weird thing as you can make cpu TJ at 115C

so the mobo wont throttle cpu until it hits 115C

[ornate condor]

I don't see any reason to buy from same company after you having problem with their all products lol

I bought 3 products from gigabyte and all of them were faulty . Don't need to mention again they sold refurbished 3080 master to me as brand new tho

[obsidian wigeon]

I meant that if they improve

If a brand gives me so much issues and still doesn't improve later on

I'd avoid em

[ornate condor]

And thing is I never had any doa products except gigabyte . Got like over 10 ssd and 5 kits of ram and like 3 mobo in last few months and no any issue

But got 3 products total from gigabyte and 2 doa

And one refurbished product

Oh I mean 3/4 . Forgot about aorus SSD . It works for now at least lol

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-13416222

[analog pulsar]

Omg

[mossy venture]

With certain exceptions, such as Biostar

And I for the most part avoid Thermaltake, though the A tier psus are an exception

[obsidian wigeon]

biostar

yeah i forgot about that

but the funny thing is that they make ref radeon card boards

[mossy venture]

just saw the other day that they make aib gpus

biostar is the cheap out bottom of the barrel brand

[ornate condor]

I currently using 1200w Thermaltake toughpower psu which is good one

I got 1200w for future upgrade to 13900k and 4090 but I think 1200w will not be enough too lol

[south cliff]

it will

[mossy venture]

1200w will be enough for 4090 and 13900k lmao

[south cliff]

1200w is alot

[desert gulch]

Depends if 4090 uses ATX 3.0

[mossy venture]

leaves 500w minimum for the rest of the system at peak 4090 wattage (including spikes)

assuming youre not heavily ocing a kingpin 4090

[deft solar]

I’m using 1200w

[mossy venture]

what psu tho

[ornate condor]

I assuming 4090 will be like - 600-700w . And 13900k is roughly 300w

Even 12900k hiting 330w

[mossy venture]

yes, leaving plenty for the rest of the system

[ornate condor]

Yeah lets see what wattage will they have

[fossil kraken]

The “hub” was preinstalled. Can I install other fans and connect them to the fan headers? Or do they have to go to the motherboards headers?

[earnest olive]

well they're available

why wouldn't you be able to use them

[unborn mesa]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jk7Jnt how much could i sell this for everything is about 3 months used and cpu is brand new

[fossil cedar]

why?

and kinda hard to know

[unborn mesa]

Asking me or the conversation before me

[fossil cedar]

you

and idk like 2k?

[unborn mesa]

Need money for sum else

[shy estuary]

soo,am new here, joined just for the sake of it, ive been trying to buy this pc, which i think is decent for a lil bit of gaming, price is 325€,specs:
i5 4690s
rx550 4gb
8 gb ram ddr4
500gb hdd

mb wasnt mentioned

thoughts?

[fossil cedar]

i mean its hard to tell but thats what id guess

[unborn mesa]

Seems decent but i dont know

[fossil cedar]

honestly if youre budget is this low id just get a console thats really low end psecs

[shy estuary]

i mean it can play some games like asseto corsa and all

[unborn mesa]

Series s will cost around 300 usd and would probably age better than that tbh

But is that the game you’re wanting to play?

[shy estuary]

me?

[shy estuary]

.

[unborn mesa]

Yes

[shy estuary]

yeah, since am not gonna run graphics mods and that,

and some other games, like gta sa or v, and css

maybe csgo

[unborn mesa]

No mods on gta v?

🤨

[shy estuary]

idk, but i was about assetto corsa

[unborn mesa]

Might keep it imma think about it

Thanks tho

[shy estuary]

the only mods are going to be the cars

[unborn mesa]

Yea they still do mess with ur gpu a good bit to render them in

[still roost]

thatguycalledWolfy#6692 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[shy estuary]

bruh

[shy estuary]

do u think that pc can play most games in low settings?

[unborn mesa]

Yea but the thing about pc is might aseell get something thatll out do a console

With those specs youll be mostly limited to older games

Then bad graphics on a pc dont sound fun tbh

[shy estuary]

meh, used to it

other then that,tnx fir the hrlp

help*

[fossil cedar]

it seems a bit pricey for the specs imo

[shy estuary]

yeah ik, dw, everything expensive here

although u can find some good deals, they will still be a bit crazy

[fossil cedar]

look on r/hardwareswapEU

and ebay ofc

[upbeat lake]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fhZ3wc is this good? i already have a PSU

[fossil cedar]

nooooooo

and what psu you got?

[upbeat lake]

its kinda outdated but it works and im 79.512% sure it wont fry everything before u say anything but its a corsair hx850

[shy estuary]

yeah theres is no online shopping here lol

[unborn mesa]

Dang

[upbeat lake]

so what should i change

[next star]

Hey y’all I’m buying a Pc today it’s a rtx 2080 super with a i7 9700k for 900 dollars it comes with a keyboard and we are gonna bench mark it is it a good deal

[upbeat lake]

2 parts isnt enought to determine that but based of of those 2 yes it is

[next star]

I’ll send you a pic

[fossil cedar]

if you can do a small bit more, this https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jpkKqm

[upbeat lake]

i need 2.5tb

1tb isnt enough

[fossil cedar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/brQ2xs

[upbeat lake]

bro whats wrong with a 2060 tho

like

[fossil cedar]

very overpriced

[upbeat lake]

1. i kinda need it to be nvidia cos im used to nvidia control panel
2. a 2060 is still pretty good for less

[upbeat lake]

yeah but arent all gpus rn?

[fossil cedar]

no

[fossil cedar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fwv74s

get this

there you go

[quasi sun]

Nice

[upbeat lake]

Bro did I not just say I kinda need it to be nvidia lmao

[ornate condor]

Rx 6600 is similar to 2060 . Rx6650xt is much better than 2060

As Nvidia I would go for 3060

In US 2060 and 3060 selling for similar price idk how prices is in your country lol

[fossil cedar]

why?

[fossil cedar]

similar is an insult

[upbeat lake]

lemme check

[ornate condor]

Nvidia have better RT performance and better drivers lol

[fossil cedar]

drivers are just as good

RT is a gimmick tbh

[upbeat lake]

lmao the 2060 is slightly better

but no i do agree RT is dumb

[ornate condor]

RT is love

[fossil cedar]

no its not, 6600 is equivalent to a 2070

[upbeat lake]

it makes no difference except the frames

[ornate condor]

Xt maybe but I'm not sure about regular 6600

[fossil cedar]

nope

[upbeat lake]

oh and being blinded if you decided to drive in cyberpunk

[fossil cedar]

xt is like 2070 super

[ornate condor]

Cyberpunk 2k RT on

[upbeat lake]

2060 is better

if u want i can check more sources

[desert gulch]

Ubm?

[upbeat lake]

ive been through 3 already and all say 2060 better

[desert gulch]

!ubm

[still roost]

`UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg`

[dense palm]

Am I supposed to feel some resistance when pushing this down

[ornate condor]

Yup securing 12th gen is harder than olders

[upbeat lake]

okay fair

[dense palm]

Thanks just making sure I am not breaking it lol

[ornate condor]

Lol lga1700 mounting is really scary lol

[upbeat lake]

oh look

2060 still better on the nerd site

[desert gulch]

That's basically margin or error tbh

50 points on 3dmark is miniscule

[upbeat lake]

okay

the 2060 is cheaper

by like 150

[desert gulch]

Where?

[upbeat lake]

UK

[ornate condor]

Rx6600 is for 300$ here in US right now which is not bad value

[desert gulch]

Oh UK, that's dif market then

[upbeat lake]

its 400 in the uk

[desert gulch]

Here's a decent chart

[dense palm]

Doing that right now

[ornate condor]

Good luck with it loo

[dense palm]

Or is this after I set in in the pc

[upbeat lake]

tbh its prob not a good idea getting advice from here cos i know 100% everyone is biased

[ornate condor]

I think it's easy outside

I'd install M2 ssd first lol

[upbeat lake]

whats the biggest ssd available

[ornate condor]

Then heatsink, then rams , then cooler

4tb i guess

4tb price = 3x 2tb price

[upbeat lake]

if ur installing the cooler before putting the motherboard in the case make sure it doesnt block the mount screws

[still roost]

CatboyNotLive#3910 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[ornate condor]

if your mobo is ATX mobo it probably won't

[upbeat lake]

omg

No more saying cuss words guys

[fossil cedar]

no its not lol

its 50 more

[upbeat lake]

DIFFERENT MARKET

im in the uk

[fossil cedar]

unless youre talking 2nd hand

ik the list was from uk

it was uk.pcpartpicker.com

[upbeat lake]

its 100 more here

[fossil cedar]

no its not

[upbeat lake]

it is

[fossil cedar]

bru

[desert gulch]

100tb

[fossil cedar]

70 quid cheaper

[upbeat lake]

not big enough for my christian videos folder smh

[desert gulch]

Smh

[dense palm]

Smh the nvme card slot screws are super tight

Nvm I had to use the screw driver it gave me

[upbeat lake]

not to flex but i have a 760

and 16gb of ddr3 1600

[dense palm]

I dont see the backplate for 1700

Do I need to contact arctic

This was all I got

[frank stirrup]

@halcyon swallow that cpu power cable is gonna haunt my dreams...

[halcyon swallow]

Lmfao

[dense palm]

@ornate condor am I missing the backplate

[halcyon swallow]

YouTube it lol

[dense palm]

Smh

i cant even start yet

Can I use any lga1700 mounting plate or does it have to be for arctic 34?

[earnest olive]

happens when you have a case from 1974

[fossil cedar]

From arctic

[dense palm]

Ugh

Earliest anywhere can ship is tuesday

And all I need is the back playe

[fossil cedar]

Use the stock cooler for the monent

[dense palm]

I guess

[analog pulsar]

What happened

[ornate condor]

Does it says lga1700 compatible ?

[analog pulsar]

So the power cables go in back

[ornate condor]

Why that cpu cable going from there lol

Just wire it from backside of case lol

Wth I seeing lol

[halcyon swallow]

its not long enough lol i tried

[analog pulsar]

Lol

Just grab some cpu cable extenders

[ornate condor]

[late elm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4G7Jnt

can someone help me with getting a better processor and motherboard?

im not sure which one to get

[ornate condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kRpYd9

changed just mobo and cpu

12400F>5600g

better and cheaper cpu

[late elm]

thank you

[ornate condor]

i don't see Ram in your build . do you already have it ?

[late elm]

yea i got it should i add it?

[ornate condor]

I just want to see if it's good one or should you replace it too lol

[dense palm]

Adhesive/glue seems to be here for some reason?

How should I clean it off?

[ornate condor]

what do you want to clean lol

[late elm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ob1itusrex75/saved/QkFmCJ

[dense palm]

The adhesive off

[ornate condor]

says list is private lol

[late elm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ob1itusrex75/saved/QkFmCJ

there it shouldnt be private now

[ornate condor]

same

[ornate condor]

if you talking about that metal thing , you shouldn't remove it lol

[ornate condor]

I mean just link the ram lol

[dense palm]

The area is “gluey”

[late elm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XJYWGX/gskill-aegis-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-f4-3000c16s-8gisb

[ornate condor]

do you have only 8gb ?

if you have 2 of them it's alright you can use it

[ornate condor]

maybe alcohol ?

🤔

[late elm]

i have 2

[ornate condor]

not the best ram but you can use it

not worth to replace

[late elm]

thank you pig!

[ornate condor]

[dense palm]

Ok will try thanks

Where do these get plugged in

I put this one to jvaud

[ornate condor]

one at left is ARGB

at right bottom is Cpu_Fan or case fan

can't see right top one properly

where those cables coming from ?

[ornate condor]

its front audio

[dense palm]

Well thanks for help. I gtg right now so will be back later.

[mossy venture]

Please don't do the build war pig suggested

[late elm]

?

[mossy venture]

What's your budget

And what parts do you have

[late elm]

1500

[mossy venture]

The h510 sucks, he didn't include a motherboard, the heatsink is worse than a $20 se 214xt

[stoic island]

Well, dunno how a H510 slipped past

[mossy venture]

The psu sucks

C tier

Alright one minute

You already have ram?

Anything else you already got?

[late elm]

I mean I bought my pc pre-built from nzxt, but I want to start upgrading it

[mossy venture]

I see

[stoic island]

Tbf gammaxx gte is basically gammaxx 400 and okay

But would still swap h510

[mossy venture]

First thing you should change is the case

And did you already buy the build

[late elm]

So I basically need an entire new pc? Is that what you're saying?

[mossy venture]

No?

I said you should change the case of the nzxt build

Because it's terrible and your gpu/cpu are gasping for air

[earnest olive]

depends on the parts

nzxt h510 isn't that bad for gpu thermals lol

it's mostly bad for cpu thermals

[late elm]

Want me to send the link to the one I have?

[earnest olive]

locked i5 is fine in an h510, anything higher and you probably want to switch

[mossy venture]

Sure

[earnest olive]

i was forced to do a build in an h510 with a 10600K + 3070Ti

[mossy venture]

I would refuse

[earnest olive]

the 10600K temps were pretty awful but the 3070Ti was chillin

[late elm]

https://nzxt.com/product/foundation-pc-h510-edition

[mossy venture]

Did you already buy that

[late elm]

Ye

[earnest olive]

i was able to get the 10600K to 5.0ghz in the H510

[mossy venture]

Can you return it

[earnest olive]

it was just sitting at 100C all core to do so

[late elm]

Idk tbh

[mossy venture]

When did you buy it

[earnest olive]

the 3070ti thermals were completely fine though

[late elm]

3 months ago?

[mossy venture]

Even the vram?

[earnest olive]

that's overclocked

[mossy venture]

So that's a no

Nzxt builds are... meh at best

[earnest olive]

yes i was able to mine on it with the case closed and no repad too

[late elm]

It was more to get my foot in the door

[mossy venture]

You can keep the cpu, mobo, ram, maybe power supply, heatsink, and storage

I'd replace the case and add a gpu

[earnest olive]

@late elm honestly dude, just toss a 3060ti in it and you probably need a power supply

but you'll be fine otherwise

[mossy venture]

Pretty much

[earnest olive]

5600G isn't that hard to cool, it'll be fine in an H510 with a simple 4 heatpipe cooler

[mossy venture]

Eh yeah ig

It's just such a bad case it hurts

[earnest olive]

i'm like 80% sure they put the garbage seasonic s12iii in your prebuilt

so i would upgrade that

[earnest olive]

have you actually used one?

[mossy venture]

Doesn't that one explode

[mossy venture]

Nein

[earnest olive]

cause like, memes aside it's probably not as bad as you think it is

[late elm]

I have my eye on a 3070. Is that fine?