building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

How many are intakes and outtakes

And which positions are what

[ornate solstice]

2outtake and 3 intake

[mossy venture]

I saw your budget is $70, you won't really get much better than the mx330 for that

[desert gulch]

m27q on left?

[mossy venture]

I'd set the back and the top to exhaust

And the front ones to intake

Is that what you have?

[ornate solstice]

wait actually i think that’s how i have it

[mossy venture]

Alright, what's overheating?

Gpu or cpu

[ornate solstice]

my gpu

[mossy venture]

What gpu is it?

[ornate solstice]

5700xt

[mossy venture]

What model

[potent portal]

Way less ghosting and better response time with the LG

[desert gulch]

yknow how i can tell which is the lg?

[ornate solstice]

5700xt gaming x

[desert gulch]

its all in the colors, lg panels have those nice colors

[mossy venture]

And sorry, one more question

What temps are you getting?

[desert gulch]

probs junc near 100c, just a guess as a 5700xt owner

we shall see tho

[mossy venture]

It sounds more like a thermal paste issue than case issue honestly

[ornate solstice]

they stay pretty low but then every now and then it jumps

[little osprey]

may I inquire upon the decision to go blue team instead of red team here 🤔

[mossy venture]

12600k beats 5600

By a good bit

[ornate solstice]

i was planning on switching to water cooling or something like this

ID-COOLING ICEFLOW 240 VGA Graphic Card Cooler 240mm Water Cooler GPU VGA Cooler Compatible with RTX 20XX Series/GTX 10XX Series /900 Series/AMD RX 200/300 Series/GTX 1600 Series https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L4YQJG3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_56EGXMYKHVGV2T8YYMBM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[mossy venture]

It's equicelang is the 5700x, which is more expensive

[obsidian wigeon]

not good bit

big chunk kek

[mossy venture]

I would not get that aio

[obsidian wigeon]

especially outside of games

[mossy venture]

If you want one get the liquid freezer ii

[potent portal]

^ Also potential for upgrades later, to 13th gen

[obsidian wigeon]

but that's not related

[little osprey]

huh, guess intel came back

[mossy venture]

5000 series is a "dead" platform, not worth buying unless you already have a 5000 series cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

no longer 2020 😔

[mossy venture]

Which is why brand loyalty sucks

People will say amd is on top for cpus, meanwhile 12400 beats 5600 and is cheaper, 12600k and 5700x and cheaper, 12700k and 5900x and cheaper

[potent portal]

Next gen looking REALLY interesting too

[mossy venture]

5950x still makes more sense than 12900k, just because they're basically the same price for the cpu but mobos for 5950x is cheaper

[potent portal]

For both red and blue

[mossy venture]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

5800X3D is the best gaming cpu rn

But it's dead end platform

[mossy venture]

Just not worth $450 for a dead platform

Yeah

The 12600k is the best price/perf gaming cpu rn

12700f is also a good choice at $310

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd say 12600k and 12400 are the best value for gaming

or 12700 non k, it's still not too bad to miss out on oc

[mossy venture]

12400 def a good choice as well, just not for your budget imo

12700f on b660

[desert gulch]

its a great option

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[desert gulch]

12700 non k performs the exact same as a stock 12700k

its nice

[potent portal]

Yeah overclocking doesn't really get you much these days anyway

[desert gulch]

like 3 fps lmao

[mossy venture]

If I were to build rn I'd go 12400 12600k or 12700f

[obsidian wigeon]

ram oc is where you gain the most

and gpu oc

[mossy venture]

Yep

[potent portal]

And those 3 fps cost 40W

[mossy venture]

The one thing I'd change about the list I made

Is maybe a 32gb 3600c16 kit

Kinda worth it with your budget

[desert gulch]

and a aio lol, or barely under ak620 limits

[mossy venture]

Ak620 is pog

[desert gulch]

very

[mossy venture]

Just not in stock rn

[desert gulch]

better than d15 for 2/3 d15 price?

im in

[mossy venture]

So peerless assassin is a good choice for a non oced 12600k

[potent portal]

Intel especially 🔥 🥵

[mossy venture]

Or 12400/12700f

Is 12700f any hotter than stock 12600k?

[potent portal]

A bit

[mossy venture]

It has more cores right?

[potent portal]

Yes

[mossy venture]

12 vs 10?

[desert gulch]

a couple more p cores

yeah

[mossy venture]

Thought so

Peerless assassin should still be fine

If not drp4 isn't really worth it at $90, not when lf2 280 is $110 or smthn

[desert gulch]

mhmm

[potent portal]

Actually now that I look at the intel specs, 12600 max turbo power is 117W and 12700F is 180W

[mossy venture]

12600k or 12600?

[desert gulch]

k

[potent portal]

non-k

[desert gulch]

oh wait

i thought you were asking reccomendations lol

[mossy venture]

12600 and 500 shouldn't exist

[potent portal]

The 12600k is 150W

[mossy venture]

Ye

[desert gulch]

neither should 12900ks, but here we are

[mossy venture]

So maybe will be getting close to the edge with a peerless assassin on a 12700f

[mossy venture]

True

[potent portal]

You know what else shouldn't exist?
LGA1700 Pentium being marketed for gaming

[mossy venture]

Also true

When I upgrade gpu I'm giving my 3060 ti to either my brother or my cousins, I'll probably make whoever it goes to a cheap 12100 build

Wait

I'm being an idiot

Ignore me

[little osprey]

hm

[quasi stone]

Do you know if the jfp1 plug into the f pannel because the jfp1 came separate

[ornate condor]

Looks like decent psu https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-platinum-ps-tpg-1200f1fapu-1-1200w/p/N82E16817153363

[mossy venture]

is it under the A tier section on the psu tier list?

oh, yes it is

great price then

[obsidian wigeon]

im okay with tt plat units tbh

they're good

[ornate condor]

Yeah I had 750w Thermaltake psu before and they're good. Especially toughpower series

Smart series is not good

[fossil cedar]

Tough power can be a tier or d tier depending on which one lol

[ornate condor]

Umm I always buying grand rgb

Rgb= more power

[desert gulch]

That PSU has no otp but whatever ig

[rugged sparrow]

Is it easy to replace a cpu cooler?

[desert gulch]

Usually

[ornate condor]

But make sure you have thermal paste lol

Does Random crashes couse of ram speed?

Apps closing randomly without any error sign lol

I think I messed ram oc

[fossil cedar]

It definitely can be, what did you stress test the ram with?

[ornate condor]

Nothing honestly lol

[fossil cedar]

Then probably

What ram is it and what timings/voltages etc

Not stress testing ram is probably the worst thing you can do when overclocking your daily apart from sending stupid voltages

[ornate condor]

Let me check it with occt

[fossil cedar]

Use occt mem as the minimum

Test mem5 extreme anta is a better indicator

Unstable ram oc can literally delete your windows install

[ornate condor]

oof

I was using xmp and just messed up with it yesterday lol and apps started randomly crashing

Its xpg lancer ddr5 6000mhz cl40

I put it 6400mhz 30-37-37

1.5v

[little osprey]

why 6400mhz

lmfao

Oh nevermind it’s ddr5

[ornate condor]

Yeah

[little osprey]

i was like wyd with ddr4 at 6400mhz 😂

[earnest olive]

gaming

[ornate condor]

Lol I don't think it can even boot like that lol

I'm not sure which voltage I should set

[little osprey]

4.20

[desert gulch]

Absolut is better

But ig extreme is probs good enough for just a daily

[ornate condor]

For ram ?

I'm not sure should I increase voltage or reduce

[desert gulch]

Depends on the kit

[fossil cedar]

That's a major change you definitely need to test something like that

[desert gulch]

Some kits handle higher voltage than others

[fossil cedar]

The vodka?

[desert gulch]

I don't know enough about ddr5 to really reccomend a voltage, even for a specific die

[desert gulch]

lol, Have you never used the absolut config?

[ornate condor]

I do have xpg lancer 32gb ddr5 6000mhz cl40 kit

[fossil cedar]

Nope just anta x arshia

[desert gulch]

It's a anta config

Hmm

Try it someday

[ornate condor]

Reduced voltage to 1.35 and boot failed lol

[fossil cedar]

Just try xmp for the moment run the sfc dism bat file in pins #windows-ios

[ornate condor]

Xmp working fine but want to oc it lol

[fossil cedar]

Then I'd recommend if you wanna ram oc probably go to the hwbot discord and ask for advice there, lot of ddr5 talk there also if you ram testing do it on a test bench install so you don't hurt your main windows install

[fossil cedar]

No, it's to correct any errors already made that can be harmful to your Windows install

[ornate condor]

I do have important projects lol let me run backup real quick first

Set it xmp and it's running normal . I'll mess with it after backup

[fossil cedar]

Just run the sfc dism it will help correct errors it takes 2 secs to run and just runs in background

[ornate condor]

Sure I will . Just backed up full drive just in case lol

[fossil cedar]

Good idea lol

[ornate condor]

Yeah I had lost lots of data couse dead hdd and faulty OS . so now I just backing up everything lol

Backup complated. Time to burn rams lol

[ornate condor]

Set 1.60V voltage and it's running good for now lol

Let's test it

[potent portal]

1.6v on ddr5? 🔥

Watch those temp sensors and see if it gets unstable at high temp

[ornate condor]

oof never checked temps lol

[potent portal]

That's like 1.7v on ddr4, you'll probably want active cooling for stability

[analog hearth]

nah it's stable. the memory modules are just gonna die within a couple of days

[ornate condor]

it doesn't even boot with 1.35v . And crashing at 1.50v so I set it 1.60v lol

Nevermind failed at test again

Occt itself crashed lol

[potent portal]

Do you have active cooling on the memory? Or at least a fan very close on the case?

[analog hearth]

nah

[fossil cedar]

use tm5 extreme anta you will find any errors faster

[ornate condor]

it's xpg lancer rams . My intake fans are close to ram ?

[potent portal]

Close like a few inches?

[ornate condor]

Nevermind actually top fans are much closer lmao

[frank stirrup]

those be exaust tho right

[ornate condor]

Does rams getting that hot actually? Never bothered with checking ram temps

[strong raft]

Obviously. (or at least just a high enough temp if which they do not like)

[potent portal]

Yes, especially at high voltage

[ornate condor]

Yup

[frank stirrup]

flip one as intake then

the one right above the ram sticks

if possible seperate that fan to another header on the board

and have it at 100% all the time

[ornate condor]

It's aio fans

[potent portal]

A lot of memory dies will get unstable at around 45-50C, and at 1.6v you'll get there in seconds

[frank stirrup]

Thats doing nothing to cool ur ram then

[ornate condor]

Sounds like good plan actually lol

But it probably gonna mess aio lol

[frank stirrup]

move aio to the front

problem solved

[potent portal]

Or if you have an old 80mm fan or something slap that on the memory

[frank stirrup]

indeed

[ornate condor]

I think can add regular fan to side but idk if it helps

[fossil cedar]

Micron superiority #ad i mean what

[ornate condor]

Alright what's safe temps for memory .

[potent portal]

You'll want something blowing cooler air between the sticks, that's the goal here

[ornate condor]

Looks impossible lol

[frank stirrup]

depends on the die

[potent portal]

We're not 100% sure for ddr5 dies yet afaik

[frank stirrup]

In general you shouldnt be overclocking ram without knowing the die

1.6 could be unsafe voltage for your ddr5 die

unknown as of now

[potent portal]

Probably is tbh, that would destroy some ddr4 dies

[frank stirrup]

yep and ddr5 is built for even lower voltages

[potent portal]

Exactly

[frank stirrup]

for now stick to xmp on ddr5 imo

[potent portal]

Personally I'd do 1.45v max, and get the timings as tight as I can at that

Even that is above spec

[ornate condor]

it's from hynix

[frank stirrup]

ok

[ornate condor]

Probably M die 🤷🏻‍♂️

[frank stirrup]

Advice applies

[potent portal]

The die types are not comparable between ddr generations btw

[ornate condor]

Alright. I'll set 1.45v and gonna mess with timings then

I realized I have old bios version too . Let's update it first

So where should memory temps hang ? Under 45c ?

[frank stirrup]

ye

[ornate condor]

Damn overclocking is so fun

Till you burn your device i guess

[strong raft]

And/or corrupt OS or something

[ornate condor]

Backed up full drive already

Alright updated bios. And setting it to 6000mhz 30-38-38 1.45v

[weary wave]

Hey guys. Does anyone know if it's possible to use an old Android phone as a primary desktop PC display? Will a Galaxy S8+ accept an input to display on its screen?

The intent is to use the phone with an ultra portable test bench to test out used parts I'd be buying, without having to lug a full monitor around

[potent portal]

Yes but it'll take some setup on both the phone and computer

https://www.alphr.com/use-android-second-monitor/

You can set it up so that it runs on startup and you can connect after boot

Looks like it'll also work by USB

There's also miniature LCD screens that connect by HDMI that would be a lot simpler

[weary wave]

Yeah, I'll have to explore those options, thanks

[analog hearth]

I'm actually using a portable monitor rn while at work

it's awesome

much better than using an Android tablet as a separate monitor

[weary wave]

Old Android phone = free, portable monitor not :)

[analog hearth]

"not"?

[fossil cedar]

That's good for ddr5

[formal girder]

They mean the portable monitor isnt free but their phone is already a free monitor

[analog hearth]

ah

give me a break it's Friday

[ornate condor]

I think I stabled it to 6400mhz 30-37-37 at 1.45v somehow lol

[analog hearth]

DDR5?

[potent portal]

Yeah

[potent portal]

Probably what I was thinking then and 1.6v was getting too hot. More power doesn't always mean better.

[fossil cedar]

that would have to be the world best b die under ln2 pushing like 2v to do that on ddr4

[potent portal]

Considering the best someone in the USA has posted on hwbot is only 6300 yeah

Meanwhile, Hicookie gets this

That's some surprisingly low timings too

[celest horizon]

b-die is not the choice for max frequency on ddr4, you want djr or rev.b/n

[fossil cedar]

true but the latencies are more b die like

[ornate condor]

I was randomly set it to 1.50v at first try lol

anyways it running at 6400mhz 30-37-37 stable for now

how can I check ram temperature 🤔

I don't see it at hwmonitor

[potent portal]

Well, check hwinfo but you might just not have a sensor for it

[ornate condor]

can't find it . so probably it doesn't even have one lol

[potent portal]

🤷‍♂️

I don't have one either

[ornate condor]

same lmao

[potent portal]

I know when my memory gets too hot at least since it's b-die. And I also found the trick to it being slightly less heat sensitive.

Thanks to one of buildzoid's rants lol

[ornate condor]

I never vorried about ram temperature before lol

[potent portal]

Well keep in mind DDR5 runs at 0.1V lower than DDR4

So when you set it to 1.6v it's like setting a DDR4 stick to 1.7v

[ornate condor]

I usually running rams at xmp but overclocking is fun tho lol

[potent portal]

Which is in "kill your stick as fast as possible" territory

I agree memory overclocking is fun. I love problem solving and seeing how much hardware can do before it hits a hard wall.

[ornate condor]

I think 1.45v is safe zone so I'll keep it at there and gonna play some games later to see if crashes complately gone

[toxic knot]

why do almost all cases have the stupid acrylic side panel? i hate it, and its so hard to find modern cases with an opaque metal side panel

its so annoying

i have to buy 8 year old cases

[cyan rune]

im sure you can make a metal side panel

it'd need fabrication tools, ofc, and it'd be costly

[toxic knot]

yeah sure, i would if i had a laser cutter

[cyan rune]

you really dont need a laser cutter

[toxic knot]

cnc machine then

[cyan rune]

nor that

just measure out 4 holes where the screws would go

[toxic knot]

money, then

[cyan rune]

i don't think it'd be incredibly expensive

lemme check some prices

[toxic knot]

"and it'd be costly"

which is it?

[earnest olive]

what's wrong with an 8 year old case anyways

not like atx standards have changed in the past 20

[cyan rune]

incredibly expensive meaning if you paid someone to do it

[earnest olive]

we had 250W GPUs and people pushing them further 8 years ago, not like nobody cared about airflow back then

[toxic knot]

nothing is wrong with them, its just annoying that when you find the case of your dreams its "outdated" and you cant buy it

[earnest olive]

maybe you can buy a coolermaster n200 it's microatx though

[toxic knot]

i mean... a scrap jard and some pliers. make a case

[earnest olive]

there's also a version of the meshify C with solid metal panel

[cyan rune]

i like seeing the no rgb and hamburger of a cpu cooler in my case

[toxic knot]

is it just me or does it look very big?

thats another thing, its hard to find opaque cases that arent 3x3x5 metres

[earnest olive]

the meshify c is actually pretty small for an atx tower

[toxic knot]

oh....

nevermind then

[earnest olive]

sounds like you want a microatx or mini itx then

the meshify c is small enough to have compatibility issues with some 30 series gpus

201 mm x 378 mm x 445 mm

355mm graphics card clearance

$74.80

supports microatx and mini itx boards

[toxic knot]

nice! oh yeah, a problem with 8 year old cases; no usb c front io. my family and i are all trying to move to usb c

[earnest olive]

can be solved with a pcie usb-c card

[toxic knot]

front io uwu

[cyan rune]

there are a lot more pcie gadgets than i thought there were

[earnest olive]

there's 5.25" drive bay cigarette lighters

[cyan rune]

Wtf

[toxic knot]

if you want custom front io, get a drill and some glue

[cyan rune]

i need to see these prices

[toxic knot]

:(

[earnest olive]

i mean i found an opaque case with front usb-c

it's also like $200

[toxic knot]

yeah i'd like to not use too much on a case. dont know if its possible for a cheap usb c case to exist. some ive seen are quite expensive :(

[sand falcon]

I am happy to announce that you can once again get a flagship gaming PC for 2k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G8G34s

[earnest olive]

i mean the product you're asking for is a niche inside a niche

[cyan rune]

oh my god the cigarette lighter also has a cup holder

[toxic knot]

dvd drive??

[cyan rune]

yeah

i've got a few optiplexes that have the dvd thing

i'll have to do some more research on this

[toxic knot]

it shouldnt be. more full metal cases should exist.

[earnest olive]

okay i found

the cheapest opaque case with a usb-c port in the front

[sand falcon]

@toxic knot I just have my glass side facing directly at the wall

[earnest olive]

actually

idk if that metal mesh is too offensive for you

nvm

does this even have usb-c or is pcpp lying

[cyan rune]

me looking at that mesh:

[toxic knot]

i mean.. i think i could live with the mesh

name?

[toxic knot]

looks isnt the only problem. my parents are divorced, so i have to move my computer a lot. a glass or acrylic side panel could break easily...

[earnest olive]

wrap it in a blanket

[sand falcon]

Acrylic doesn't break easily

[toxic knot]

scratches, then

[cyan rune]

it scratches easy tho

[toxic knot]

yea

[earnest olive]

black metal can get scratched too

[toxic knot]

metal scratches look cool, acrylic scratches dont

[earnest olive]

just did some restoration work on a horribly scratched black metal case

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083FSNFNQ

[earnest olive]

well this one definitely has usb-c

and is small and literally has a handle for carrying

[sand falcon]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFJ0H3Q?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

BOX

[earnest olive]

no front usb-c

[toxic knot]

name?

[sand falcon]

https://www.amazon.com/BYEASY-Inches-Internal-Reader-Type-C/dp/B08DKDHMGR
Front 3.5" though

(there's probably a cheaper/better one)

[earnest olive]

i checked it doesn't have front usb-c even if that hole in the front looks like it does

[toxic knot]

yeah i see that now :(((

[earnest olive]

think this is the best choice for you

[toxic knot]

i can live without usb c, i cant live with acrylic or glass

its like a mac pro with the handle on the top

[earnest olive]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811854109 here you go then

only $50 with rebate

and here am i thinking i might need a bigger case than an o11 dynamic

[toxic knot]

oh god. it uses one usb a for all those ports. definitely wont get that 3.0 speed when using both. 2kbs when using all ports lol

[earnest olive]

graphics card too big

[sand falcon]

wdym

[toxic knot]

if you look through some of the pictures

[sand falcon]

USB is designed to multiplex, lots of the USB on any case is all hooked up to the same port

[sand falcon]

Yeah?

Take for example my computer, I only have four USB buses, two USB 3.0 and two USB 2.0

[toxic knot]

isnt 19 pin slot pretty slow?

[sand falcon]

No, that's full USB 3, just the older gen USB 3

Here's my USB configuration

I have two devices plugged in that aren't showing up there, dunno why

Three technically, but the one is just using USB for power

[still roost]

MCMatt02#1840 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[toxic knot]

ok... cool

[dusty compass]

opaque metal is just normal metal you melon, literally go on newegg and look at rosewill cases

[toxic knot]

I know that. I’m not an idiot. I don’t know why I typed it like that.

[little osprey]

Melon

[sand falcon]

Friend, in Elvish

well, mellon technically

[toxic knot]

Anyways. This is the front i/o on my current case. Bought it used as it was the only semi cheap opaque metal case I could find

[strong raft]

A lot of ram has no temp sensor btw, from what I've seen.

[toxic knot]

I don’t know why he ripped out the two USB ports

But he did

[sand falcon]

That's impressive

[toxic knot]

Thanks :)))))

[strong raft]

My CM RC690 is obviously 10+ yrs old & I like it. 11gen rig might not even get a case

[toxic knot]

thats a pretty neat case

esata front io

[strong raft]

Oh that's perfect for those who vert mount gpu

[toxic knot]

nice

[strong raft]

Yea RC690 is pretty good. Inside painted black & removed the whole hdd cage. Might remove the 5.25" drive bays but that's where my sata drives sit. Only thing better would be if it was the RC69

[jolly dew]

When splitting the cpu cable for power supply to motherboard. What side do i use?

[strong raft]

Solid 8pin end always goes to psu, and if theres a 4pin & 8pin port for cpu-you only need the 8pin (aka 4+4pin & aka EPS)

[jolly dew]

Why do I see so many videos with people doing al 12?

That’s why I’m asking bc I’m confused.

[strong raft]

Probably just because they can. I lot of psus don't have a 2nd cpu cable & a single 8pin "EPS" as it's called, can easily do 300ish watts.

[jolly dew]

So if I’m not over clocking I don’t need the extra ones?

[strong raft]

Bingo. It's not like the pcie stuff where 8pin = 150w & 6pin = 75w.

[strong raft]

Ok to be clear here's a pic to confirm what I was thinking of. Random mobo obviously

[ornate condor]

1x8pin is very enough for most cpus

[jolly dew]

Ok cool thank you

[ornate condor]

make sure using 4+4 instead of 6+2

[fossil cedar]

8 pin eps is like 300w

8 pin pcie is 150w

[jolly dew]

4 pin is 150, 8 pin is 300 I just read

And it is 4x4

[ornate condor]

so 1x8pin is even enough for 12900k lol

but not overclocked one

[strong raft]

I mentioned, lol

[ornate condor]

my 12900k pulling over 300w when I overclock it to 5.2ghz

[strong raft]

12400K/12500K at 5.2ghz would be fun, but they didn't give us that.

[ornate condor]

lol

13900k 5.8ghz wen

[strong raft]

I remember 3ghz was a big enough deal and here we are almost doubling that (w/o OC).

[ornate condor]

yeah and 3200mhz rams ... now isung 6400mhz

there were times 3200mhz rams were best rams lol

[strong raft]

Funny enough that's less impressive just w/ the way ram is. Ddr-400, ddr2-800/1066, ddr3-1600/1866 etc, etc. Still neat though, I'll admit. Plus it's great ram itself hasn't really been a bottleneck for a while

[ornate condor]

another impressive thing is 12600k to me lol . it litrally beating 11900k

thats improvement on technoloji and thats how it supposed to be . but gpus disagrees about it lol

same value gpus for same price after 5years lmao

like amd rx6400 which have 160$ msrp and its worse than 1650 ....

[celest horizon]

I mean, the 10900k beats the 11900k

[south cliff]

it does

?

[strong raft]

I don't disagree. 12400 in games is also really impressive, as is the 12100. Of course can't expect too much from 4 cores these days though. Yeah, gpu been jacked up. At least some people got $$400ish 2080 ti's when 30 series arrived haha. Eh, arent 10900k & 11900k actually super close in games? I went 11700F partly because the performance is probably close enough but I get the lower wattage.

[celest horizon]

https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/10900k-vs-11900k/

[ornate condor]

10900k 5.4ghz

[south cliff]

But isnt the 11900k at stock?

the 10900k at 5.4

[celest horizon]

The 5.4 is pretty unrealistic, I would go by the 5.2 numbers

You need a very good chip for 5.3/5.4 daily

[ornate condor]

I can't oc 12900k to 5.4ghz

5.3ghz single core

[celest horizon]

It's not perfect testing - but both chips are given the best memory tune they could get, or pretty close to it

Some 12900k can do 5.3 all core, nearly all can do 5.2

[ornate condor]

manually overclocking 12900k is not really worth it

couse really bad thermals and power draw

it literally drawing over 300w...

[strong raft]

Diminishing returns out the wazoo, for (most) games anyways

[little osprey]

hey

what's the difference between the z690 P and A (wifi)

[ornate condor]

A is more good looking and have 4 m2 slot

and theres some small differences like usb ports and stuff

[little osprey]

asus z690p or b660a

[ornate condor]

Z chipset > B chipset

but it's depends on which cpu mostly

[cyan ravine]

Z is for overclocking with K Intel CPU's mostly

[strong raft]

Crap z690 < good b660 < good z690. Decent vrm heatinks & rear io are always helpful.

[ornate condor]

Z chipset also have better storage and pcie line options

Z690P is same price as B660A lol

[south cliff]

ik budget z690 mobos are the same as budget b660

i got my gigabyte z690 aruous pro somthing for 206

and i was looking at b660 its about the same but some are like 20 bucks diffrent

[ornate condor]

I got Z690A DDR5 I think it was 300$ at preorder

its probably cheaper now

4x m2 slot is very useful

[strong raft]

I wouldn't say very, but sure. Msi Pro z690-A has 4 slots. Gonna be good options when I eventually go lga1700 someday. Most people have hdd(s), sata ssd(s), and 1 or maybe 2 nvme. I impulse bought some stuff. Funny enough my drive sizes are gonna be 500GB, 1TB, & 2TB. Tbh I feel like a single gen 4 is almost wasted for me because transferring between any drive sort of takes the speed of the slowest 1, but idk.

[ornate condor]

I do have 4x m2 ssd right now

3x 1tb gen4 and 1x 2tb gen3 970

and 2tb sata ssd

[strong raft]

. My nvme stuff is sn550, 970 evo plus, & S70 Blade, lol. For sata I've MX500's, a 250GB as my old boot & a 1TB that's empty.

[ornate condor]

boot is sn850 . and 2x msi m470

Sadly 1x 4tb m2 ssd price = 3x 2tb m2 price

[strong raft]

Yea 4TB prices are wack usually. I want to resell the sn550 to free up a slot, but idk if it would. No big deal. 3+ TB of nvme is great when I'm used to 1/2 that & small decent boot drive ok. At least a fresh reinstall isn't a big deal anymore VS on hdds

[ornate condor]

Eww HDD

Those things are slow as hell and running like tank lol

7200rpm ones are damn loud

[strong raft]

My fans are louder. Fine for tons of pics videos or many older games maybe. More like cheap as hell. $25/TB.

[high yew]

is it okay for the hot air of my case to get sucked from my fans and pass through my aio rad

[jolly dew]

I got everything put together and plugged in, I think correctly but my pc won’t turn on. Is anyone able to help me possibly find the issue? 😄

[ornate condor]

Did you turn on switch on psu ?

[jolly dew]

Yeah I tried both off an on

[ornate condor]

Did you installed it in case or just testing

[jolly dew]

It’s all in the case but I’m just testing it

[formal girder]

Make sure your plugs to the motherboard and PSU are fitted in properly

[jolly dew]

I feel like everything is

[formal girder]

Whats your psu?

[jolly dew]

It’s a super flower

[formal girder]

Model?

[ornate condor]

first I would try shorting power button pins

[jolly dew]

Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 850W 80+ Gold

I figured the power supply would at least turn on and show rgb

[formal girder]

Did you plug in front panel headers?

And make sure your plugs are done properly

[potent portal]

Anything assrock below those too

[strong raft]

Yes, case air isn't all that hot. Aio rad as "exhaust" is fine , & really common tbh

[jolly dew]

On the gigabyte z690 ud ax I have the power sw etc facing down, the arrow is on top. That’s correct? I might have to jump the power supply to see if it’s even working

[formal girder]

Make sure your PSU isn't in hybrid either I doubt it will fix but check if possible

[jolly dew]

In what?

[ornate condor]

First I would try to short power switch pins

[jolly dew]

How?

[ornate condor]

Just pull power switch cable from mobo and short those 2 pins with screwdriver or something

[jagged ember]

as in, find out which pins are the power pins from the manual

[jolly dew]

Haha I had my reset and power mixed up

[ornate condor]

As what I thought lol

[formal girder]

Could've pressed reset to power on lol

[jagged ember]

happens to all of us lol

[formal girder]

I've yet to mess it up cause I have it imbedded in my head since I first found a HDD led

[jolly dew]

This evga geforce rtx 3080 is stinky 😅

[potent portal]

I've done this like twice 😅

[potent portal]

How so? Too hot? Too loud? Low FPS?

[jolly dew]

I’m hoping because it’s new lol temps seem fine and made sure to take all the plastic off

[potent portal]

Once you get the drivers installed it should be better

[quasi stone]

Why is the vga light on?

[formal girder]

Make sure your monitor is plugged into the gpu

[cyan ravine]

Is the gpu pushed all the way in until it clicks in the slot?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[cyan ravine]

No Venti lol

[obsidian wigeon]

have you released the little tab on the side of pcie slot before putting a gpu in there?

you have to do that

[cyan ravine]

PCIe power cables also plugged in until they clicked?

[obsidian wigeon]

oh wait i didn't read the whole thing

lol

[cyan ravine]

All good lol

Hey I am the plus regular now

[strong raft]

now regular plus, you are. hmm - yoda, probably

[quasi stone]

I did all of those the tab is in it clicked fully idk what’s wrong

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Byf89r

my build

Nice

Seems quite pricey but if thats the aesthetic you're going for then good for you

yems

i got the i7 out the way

just need the rest

about like 900

also what's the difference between b660a and z690p

[potent portal]

You can overclock the cpu on a Z690 but not a B660

Not worth the price premium for most people imo

[obsidian wigeon]

if you go b660

might as well go 12700 imo

stock vs stock the non k and k version performs the same

and cpu ocing doesn't gain you much these days

the 12700f is even cheaper too, if you don't mind losing igpu

only 312 on pcpp

[jolly dew]

I’m nervous this graphics card smells when the fans run

[little osprey]

ah

[potent portal]

What kind of a smell?

[jolly dew]

Like a mild plastic/new smell idk

[potent portal]

Cheap plastic will do that sometimes

That's where the "new car smell" comes from, the plastics are off-gassing

[little osprey]

Z690 cheaper tho

might just get the b660 instead tho it's like a 15$ diffrence but it looks way better

[potent portal]

Looks like there's not a lot of difference as far as specs, both have all the headers and slots you'll need for the foreseeable future

[little osprey]

the asus rog strix and the asus prime

also isn't the z690p like ddr5 ram

[potent portal]

There's a DDR4 version

[little osprey]

great

what happens if you put ddr4 in ddr5 slots

[potent portal]

It will physically not fit

Look for "D4" or DDR4 in model names, like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vxt9TW/asus-prime-z690-p-wifi-d4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-z690-p-wifi-d4

Pcpartpicker will also only show compatible items when you have a list going

So if you have a kit of DDR4 on you list it will only show DDR4 boards

[little osprey]

ah ok

The Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler may require a separately available mounting adapter to fit the Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard.

what does this mean

[potent portal]

That just means there is a chance your cooler doesn't come with the new mounting bracket, and you might need to contact corsair to send you one.

That applies to every brand and model right now

[little osprey]

oh

is the b660 new or something

[potent portal]

Yeah it's a brand new socket, LGA1700. The first time Intel has changed their bracket in many years.

[little osprey]

ah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Byf89r

my builds compatible right

[potent portal]

Yes

I like that pcpp also does the breakdown of how many and what slots and headers will be used, nice touch.

[little osprey]

Yeah new update

ok

so if it comes without it i just contact corsair and ask them to send me it?

[potent portal]

Yes they'll ask for invoices for the cpu and cooler and send you one

[little osprey]

ok

[still roost]

Tropix#5797 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

bro the feeling when you need a dollar

[autumn wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[fossil cedar]

5$ more and get a good bit better psu btw
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R4Gbt6/corsair-rm-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020231-na

[little osprey]

are they both 750W tho

[fossil cedar]

It literally says that lol

[little osprey]

aren't they*

i meant

what's the difference

[fossil cedar]

Better components

[little osprey]

k

where does the psu even go in the o11

[potent portal]

Behind the motherboard tray

[little osprey]

wtf

so it won't really be visible

[potent portal]

Yep

But watch the swears 😉

[little osprey]

oh my fault

[fossil cedar]

In basically every mid-high end case you don't see the psu

[obsidian wigeon]

^

most people doesn't like seeing a psu with its labels

[ornate condor]

is xpg S70 2TB for 225$ deal ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/293993948211?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=bfXu4EYfQxy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=QikrwtJhTda&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[ruby sentinel]

No. Bad.

Jk. Idk

[indigo maple]

*budget $2000 USD Dollars
*I want it to be mainly a gaming pc but also be able to use it as a office computer for productivity
*would be playing Minecraft, forza horizon, cod, overwatch, some vr games and I also and a photographer so I’ll be using photoshop as well
*I plan on purchasing the system ASAP
*I would prefer if it has wifi because I don’t know If I’m always gonna have Ethernet near by. Im looking for something that can run at 1440p smoothly if possible.

[frank stirrup]

2k for pc only or pc plus monitors and all?

also u are in the us right or converted to usd?

[ornate condor]

is there any difference between XPG S70 and S70 Blade ? 🤔

[indigo maple]

I bought a 2k 165hz monitor and I have the 4000D airflow so far @frank stirrup

[little osprey]

w

you got keyboard + mouse + headphone/mic yet?

[indigo maple]

@frank stirrup I’m in the us

Yes I have all of that as Well

[vagrant moat]

What’s the best highest preformance mousepad u can buy

[indigo maple]

I have my razer mini mouse

And the low-profile Logitech keyboard

[vagrant moat]

Which one

Is that

?

G pro wireless?

[indigo maple]

Hold up let me find it

Logitech G915 Lightspeed Wireless RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard With Tactile Switch

Razer Viper Mini Ultralight Gaming Mouse

Plus the monitor and the case is what I have so far

[mossy venture]

12600k 3080 12gb build very possible

At work tho so can't grab my list

[obsidian wigeon]

you can do 12700f tho

it's a good choice

besides it's like 320 bucks rn

[little osprey]

this psu okay for 650w fully modular?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rz2bt6/corsair-cxf-650-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020217-na

ignoring rgb

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

cx is decent

same for cxf

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zD8YNc

Just saw what you said foxy

12700f also good choice

@indigo maple

[fossil cedar]

If it wasn't from ebay sure

[indigo maple]

@mossy venture could i switch out the RAM for g.skill ripjaws?

[ornate condor]

It's from adata itself

And same price for s70 blade at amazon

[fossil cedar]

Is suppose if it's cheaper with postage than newegg or Amazon sure

[fossil cedar]

Although best value high end picks atm are
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6GK2FT/adata-xpg-gammix-s50-lite-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs50l-2t-c
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NLbTwP/sk-hynix-gold-p31-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-shgp31-2000gm-2

[mossy venture]

If you wanted to, but make sure it's either 3200c16, 3600c16, or 4000c18 (not really worth unless on sale though for the 4000)

[indigo maple]

would i really know the difference tho?

[mossy venture]

Diff in performance

It's worth the little extra

Also 3200c16>3600c18

And 3600c18 Costa more

Costs

[indigo maple]

but between the brands are they similar to the Silicon Power in terms of performance

[fossil cedar]

In terms of ram higher frequency/lower timings are more important than brand

[indigo maple]

how does this look? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W34qRv

[ruby sentinel]

Does anyone have crucial ballistic 8×2 3600 ram?

CL 16

[frank stirrup]

rule 2

3

i mean rule 3

[ruby sentinel]

I'm asking if they have it and haven't failed yet.

There must be a reason as to why they are now discontinued.

[ruby sentinel]

Pretty good, but are you buying the CPU from Newegg or do you have a Micro Center near you?

And the GPU

[ornate condor]

I never used XPG SSD before but I heard good reviews about it

[frank stirrup]

crucial focussing on manufacturing ddr5

[ornate condor]

I do using xpg rams currently and it's working great . Even tho I gave 1.6V to it yesterday

[ruby sentinel]

Dang.

But ddr5 is so expensive and not worth with the 12th gen.

[indigo maple]

@ruby sentinel unfortunately no, if i did i would of most pretty much everything from there

[ornate condor]

I wouldn't say

[obsidian wigeon]

ddr5 is gettin cheaper

[ornate condor]

I do using ddr5 32gb 6000mhz rams and bought it for 275$ . Good ddr4 rams are for 200$ so

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZBLJyK

[obsidian wigeon]

like we can already see lower than 400 bucks kit

with 6400mhz and okay latency

[fossil cedar]

[ruby sentinel]

Take into account that there are more places to buy those parts.

You can buy 'new' from Facebook marketplace, Mercari, etc.

[ornate condor]

Sure thing

[ornate condor]

Be aware of scammers

[ruby sentinel]

Although there are some scams. I never came across one but it's possible.

[ruby sentinel]

Yup. Already know.

[mossy venture]

Bruh

[ruby sentinel]

I bought my MSI tomahawk z690 from Mercari brand new for 200.

[indigo maple]

ik

[indigo maple]

i was tweaking the build

[fossil cedar]

Micro center are only good for cpu + motherboard combos so don't worry that much what you would save on cpu you'd loose 100s on all the other parts lol

[indigo maple]

i liked the build but i just can't decide what i want

[fossil cedar]

Go with mine 🙂

[indigo maple]

yeah but i also like being able to see the product before buying just makes it harder online

[obsidian wigeon]

why no b660+12700f ree

it cheap rn

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cFZRKp

[fossil cedar]

Ehh if they wanna oc let them oc

[mossy venture]

There https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LnpGPX

[obsidian wigeon]

oh they wanna oc

[ornate condor]

You can find 3080for decent price like 850$ nowadays

[obsidian wigeon]

alright then

[ornate condor]

Or 3070ti for 700$

[obsidian wigeon]

but ocing with ak620 tho

eef

needs aio imo

[mossy venture]

Oh mb

Forgot to change that

[ornate condor]

I think only difference between XPG S70 and S70 Blade is heatsink

[mossy venture]

In a rush making these since I'm at work

Could you fix it foxy?

[obsidian wigeon]

okay, i'll do it

[mossy venture]

Ty

[obsidian wigeon]

but that's gonna go over budget, rip

[mossy venture]

Mobo was $200

Not 270

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

[mossy venture]

Also 12700f would be fine

Since ocing isn't really important for gaming

[ornate condor]

I would recommend 12700k of kf

[obsidian wigeon]

idk they insist on it

[ornate condor]

I saw 12700k for 330$ before

If you not rushing you can hunt good deals

[obsidian wigeon]

12700f is like 319 atm

[ornate condor]

And 12700k for 350

[ruby sentinel]

Just get a 12700k

[obsidian wigeon]

but budget is 2k

[wicked frigate]

Guys I want to buy a ig cpu

Should I go with intel or amd

[ruby sentinel]

But if you really need to get bellow 2300 then stick with the 12600k

[obsidian wigeon]

what's your budget

and what mobo do you have rn

[wicked frigate]

Me?

[obsidian wigeon]

if not i can suggest you a few

yes

[ruby sentinel]

Ni

[ornate condor]

I agree 12600k is amazing cpu . I pairing it with 3080 too

[obsidian wigeon]

honestly stick with 12700f for the build

you don't need a k unless you plan to really oc

[wicked frigate]

Ok well I am trying to spend least anoint of money I can because I have a pus of 450 and I need to get a cpu, mobo, ram

And maybe a case

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[wicked frigate]

Yah

It’s just my secondary pc

For games like Val

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f+msi b660m a pro should do

[wicked frigate]

Ram?

[obsidian wigeon]

or 12100f cause it's valorant

[wicked frigate]

Not only Val

[obsidian wigeon]

ram could be anything with 3200mhz and cl16

[wicked frigate]

Like other games I would say too

[obsidian wigeon]

ah, 12400f would be it

[wicked frigate]

Should I go for 16 or 32 gig

[obsidian wigeon]

maybe try 11400f if it goes over your budget

[ruby sentinel]

@indigo maple
You can also buy GPU from Walmart or best buy.

[obsidian wigeon]

just do 16

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

32 if you don't mind spending more

[wicked frigate]

Wait I have another question for my good pc I am planing to wait for 40 series. Will I have to get a new psu for it?

[ruby sentinel]

I have 16 and I run warzone at I think 30fps 1080p low settings with UHD 770

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[wicked frigate]

Cause of the pcie cables

[obsidian wigeon]

you only have 450w unit anyway

[wicked frigate]

No on my other pc I have 1000

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

nope

you won't

at least not on something as high end as 4080 or something

[wicked frigate]

But I am just wondering will 40 series require a new psu census’s of the new cable

[obsidian wigeon]

the new cable is only used on higher end skus

for the hungry cards

[wicked frigate]

I see

And does that require new psu

?

[obsidian wigeon]

not really

you can get adapters

[fossil cedar]

Well I'd assume so since they changed b660 to z690

[ruby sentinel]

750 is recommended for 3080?

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[obsidian wigeon]

750w is fine for 3080

given you don't put 12900k on it

[wicked frigate]

Foxy I’ll come back with a pc part picker and tell me I need to tweak anything

[obsidian wigeon]

for which build?

your secondary or

[fossil cedar]

Yes but if buying a new psu get 850w

[wicked frigate]

The budget

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

[wicked frigate]

My good one is already built have a 1050ti in there waiting for 40

[obsidian wigeon]

okay, i'll whip something up for you

[wicked frigate]

Ok thx

[obsidian wigeon]

what's your budget for the secondary rig?

[wicked frigate]

Try to spend as less amount as you can

I have a 450 psu

[obsidian wigeon]

okay

[wicked frigate]

A gt 610

[obsidian wigeon]

gimme a few mins

[wicked frigate]

And maybe might need a new case

But yah

[indigo maple]

true, but most of time its sold out before i can even buy the gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GM3bLs @wicked frigate

This is with case

You can cut it lower if you don't want one

[wicked frigate]

I see should you recommend me going with amd in this situation

?

Like the 5600g

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

[wicked frigate]

With that board I can’t plug in directly

[obsidian wigeon]

Just step down to 11400f

[wicked frigate]

To my monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

alright, let me edit it

[wicked frigate]

Cause would ig be better than gt 610

[fossil cedar]

If it isn't going to have a graphics card, yes get the 5600g, otherwise get the 12400

[wicked frigate]

I have a 610

[fossil cedar]

Assuming it's for gaming

[wicked frigate]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

Then go 5600g ye

[obsidian wigeon]

ooh 10400 is even cheaper

[wicked frigate]

Not intel?

[obsidian wigeon]

5600g costs quite a bit more tbh

[fossil cedar]

Nope, and has better integrated graphics

[obsidian wigeon]

but

i can't argue that

[fossil cedar]

No?

[wicked frigate]

I meant I can save 20 from the cooler

Cause it comes with one

[obsidian wigeon]

i'll leave it on pato

[wicked frigate]

I just need a mobo

I don’t know which one and ram

Ram I’ll can look around but mobo idk

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W44qRv

[wicked frigate]

Does this mobo have

A vga

HDMI

Or anything like that

Also

Any way to make it cheaper or no?

[obsidian wigeon]

hdmi wouldn't be a worry

and honestly, there's no way to make it cheaper

[wicked frigate]

I see

[obsidian wigeon]

unless you want a worse case

[wicked frigate]

I see

Also

Do you know any app that track price drops

?

Form any trustee website

[little osprey]

pcpp does

[obsidian wigeon]

slickdeals and honey is one i know

but pcpp is good at that already

[wicked frigate]

Is that a app or extension

[little osprey]

pc part picker

its a website

that we linked you

[obsidian wigeon]

ones i mentioned are plugins, yes

[wicked frigate]

Ohhhhhh

[obsidian wigeon]

they do have sites tho

[wicked frigate]

I wanted the lian li strimer

24 pin

But I am trying to find it for cheaper

Are the 30 series ever going to hit msrp?

[little osprey]

eh those are usually pretty expensive

idk if they really hit "low" prices

[little osprey]

they have been hitting msrp

not permanently but temporary sales

[mossy venture]

Nah, 12100f for $108 over 11400f for 150 any day

[magic nova]

guys can anyone build me pc for 1800$? goal is 1080p 144hz gaming. without monitor and accessories

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZBLJyK

although thats overkill for 1080p 144

[magic nova]

ty

[rich void]

If you're going for a $1800 system may as well go 1440p high refresh imo

Can get a good 1440p/high refresh monitor for like $300

[magic nova]

well in my country everything is double its original price compared to us

[frank stirrup]

#general-chat message

[magic nova]

for example if in us rtx 3060 is 400$ here is 700$

in Georgia (country)

[ornate condor]

Customs tax sux

[jolly dew]

Can someone help point me in the right direction as to gigabyte z690 and arctic liquid freezer ii 360rbg. The plugs are different than the ii280 argb and I don’t know where they go now 😅

Like the rgb socket is 4 pins not 3

[ornate condor]

4pin = RGB
3pin = ARGB

4pin rgb = 12v
3pin argb = 5v

So you have to find rgb pins at mobo not ARGB

[little osprey]

i think this is what i'm going to end up building

or this

which looks better full or mini?

[mental hornet]

hey

[little osprey]

hey wassup

[mental hornet]

how are yall

[little osprey]

good hbu, might want to move to #general-chat for regular chatting

[mental hornet]

oh ye My bad

[little osprey]

i'm deciding weather i should cop a mini or full

this is another mini

evo or dynamic mini

If you’re deciding then why are you asking us

It’s entirely up to you what size you want

i need help deciding

is a evo like really big

cause i'm tryna put it on my desk

also would sl140 on front and aio on top look the same ?

measure the space available on your desk and look at the case specifications on the case product website

okay

[little osprey]

i don’t know what you’re asking here

are you saying you’re gonna use sl140 fans instead?

[little osprey]

here

if i were to replace the aio their with sl140 and put a triple aio on top would it look the same

sure?

I don’t know i don’t have the parts

[fossil cedar]

Imo evo is too bit to put on a normal sized desk

[little osprey]

yeah but we have no idea how big this guys desk is

or small

[ornate condor]

Just realized r5 5600 doesn't support pcie4

Imagine not supporting gen4 ssd in 2022 AMD pls go home

[fossil cedar]

You're thinking of 5500 iirc

[ornate condor]

oh yeah sry its 5500

[fossil cedar]

5600 is slight downclock of 5600x

[ornate condor]

I was looking at 5500 and thought its 5600 lol

when the hell 5500 came out lol

[fossil cedar]

Same time as 5600, 5700x, and the weird 4000 series cpus

[ornate condor]

but still why pcie3 tho

[fossil cedar]

Cuz yes

[ornate condor]

somehow it really does look like its actually 3600x lol

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MrPik/saved/yxQfdC

anyone have any suggestions on this build? (besides adding a graphics card lol)

[earnest olive]

get a better dark mode extension

or just use pcpartpicker's built in dark mode

what on earth lol

anyways the ssd and psu are awful and should be replaced immediately

the rest is fine

[mossy plaza]

true but its operas lol

[earnest olive]

there is a better board available for cheaper though

[mossy plaza]

it doesn't bother me so I don't use more time on it then I have

[earnest olive]

for future reference you should really just post the list link so it's easier for people to edit

[earnest olive]

pcpartpicker has built in dark mode

[mossy plaza]

sry about that

[earnest olive]

can you post the link so i can edit it lol

[mossy plaza]

^ idk if you can edit it but I think you can

[mossy plaza]

honestly for me I don't know about the ssd but the psu is one that I have right now and it works pretty nice for me

[earnest olive]

private list

[mossy plaza]

ah

1 sec

[earnest olive]

that psu is a verifiable fire hazard

if it hasn't died yet you're just lucky

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9JCbLs

[mossy plaza]

I guess so lol

[earnest olive]

thanks

[mossy plaza]

np

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W327Rv better motherboard, MUCH faster ssd that's double the capacity, unfathomably better power supply, and it's still cheaper

ready for a 3070

if you can find one that fits in that case

maybe have to go with a 3060ti xc

[mossy plaza]

oh damn ty

nahh I'm prob not gonna go that high

I'll prob go for one of the 1000 cards or somethin

[earnest olive]

if you're going to go with a 3060 or lower prob just grab a 5600 non-x to save money

[mossy plaza]

whatever is an upgrade and isn't too expensive for me is fine

[earnest olive]

or even a used 3600 - seeing those around $120 now

[mossy plaza]

rn I'm rolling with a Nvidia Gtx 550 or somethin

[mossy plaza]

damn I didn't know that

well then I'll go for that

[earnest olive]

i'm about to buy a bundle with a ryzen 5 3600x, b450 tomahawk, and 16gb of 2933 ram for $170 to use in a flip build

hopefully can oc the ram to 3200+ lol

[strong raft]

Idk if you were answered. Blade model comes w/ slim optional heatsink so it can go in a ps5 ez. Non-blade is same, but big heatsink stuck on & itself meant for PC, but might work w/ ps5 if ssd cover left off. Btw $220+tax what I paid for S70 Blade. 👍

[mossy plaza]

damn 👀

[earnest olive]

and i could probably do better

[mossy plaza]

well ty man for the info

[earnest olive]

but it's my friend and i don't want to nickel and dime him too much

[mossy plaza]

yea

[earnest olive]

170 is fair enough

saw a 3600x + b450 bundle on hws go for 135 including shipping

35 is prob enough to get some better ram

got some 16gb 3000c16 ram for $30 once that i managed to oc to 3200c14

and another $30 kit that could do 3200c15

probably could have done higher frequencies if they weren't on old Z170 (intel 6th gen) boards

[mossy plaza]

damn well gl with all your doing

[ornate condor]

I thought so . its 225$ now and since I do have heatsink on mobo I gotta remove heatsink anyways

[earnest olive]

you too 🙂

[ornate condor]

I think I'm storage addict lol

[potent portal]

20tb isn't enough for me

[ornate condor]

I want to buy that S70 blade but I'm not sure if it's good deal or not

[potent portal]

Think of it this way, what would you use it for and does it need the extra speed?

[untold beacon]

alright guys go the pc up and working

[ornate condor]

I mean I do looking for fast SSD but I got Aorus 2tb for 170$ 2 months ago and idk if I should see great deal like that again lol