#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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also, seriously, you should reconsider spending 2.5k on a pc if you can't afford it without installments

potent portal
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I linked one for 2k with a 12700kf and 3070 ti already

earnest olive
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nobody needs a 2.5k pc for gaming

mossy venture
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3060 ti 10400f for $1.2k

obsidian wigeon
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see now that's something fair

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im sad to see people overspending on a pc

mossy venture
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A million times better price/perf (and better perf) than that cyberpower pc

little osprey
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well its for my gf if i can find one cheapper it will be better

obsidian wigeon
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dang it's on a big sale

mossy venture
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At the one

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I just posted

earnest olive
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take it from someone with a 3090

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this kind of performance is not necessary

mossy venture
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And got downvoted five times

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Idfk why

earnest olive
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you can be perfectly happy gaming on a 3060 without breaking the bank

little osprey
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10400 is meh but it should be ok...

potent portal
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Yeah unless you're doing high end gaming at 4k you don't need to spend more than 2k max

mossy venture
little osprey
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it has has 512gb

little osprey
earnest olive
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10400 is absolutely fine for a 3060

mossy venture
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A 2tb hdd is $50

little osprey
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your right

obsidian wigeon
mossy venture
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Or 1tb ssd is $80-100

obsidian wigeon
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it's amazing wtf

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probably "hurr durr i5"

potent portal
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At that point you want a custom loop

earnest olive
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nobody downvoted my first ever tech deal

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feeling cute

mossy venture
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I wonder what my first one is

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Time to check

little osprey
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like i wanna make her a good custom and all

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but she dosent want one : (

untold beacon
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Well I hooked up my 1070 from my other build but still that’s not gonna solve the issue

obsidian wigeon
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eh getting that 3060ti abs rig is good value

mossy venture
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My first tech deal is a scalped 3080 lmao

little osprey
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ik that 3060 is good

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Hmmm

potent portal
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Yeah I can't find my first message that got votes there, I've been here too long lol

little osprey
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terrible deal.

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my first official tech deal was Cyberpowerpc 😂

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ooof

potent portal
obsidian wigeon
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my first post was like some ssd

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and some combo with cpu+ssd

polar veldt
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Question about replacing broken graohic card

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I have a dell 8940 with a broken 1060 super nvidia oem card

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Any recommendations on what to replace it wirh

earnest olive
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1060 super doesn't exist

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did you mean 1660 super

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any graphics card that physically fits in the case and your power supply's power connectors will work

polar veldt
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That's the one. Hard to read numbers

earnest olive
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since it's a dell you won't be able to easily change the power supply

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how many power pins does your card have? 6-8?

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can you tell if your power supply has any extra graphics card power connectors?

south cliff
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oem 1660 super i think has 8

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nb its a 6 pin

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@earnest olive

potent portal
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It's also a 125W max power, can't adjust up. Oof.

south cliff
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is that bad 125 watts?

potent portal
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Most can do 135-150W

south cliff
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well its a dell oem

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card

potent portal
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More power more frames

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In theory

south cliff
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rx 570>any card

little osprey
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yo guys is this pc good

south cliff
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its good

obsidian wigeon
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why do you keep pushing for cyberpower?

little osprey
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what you guys think

south cliff
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ikr

little osprey
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X

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D

obsidian wigeon
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also what price is it, I can't get in there rn

little osprey
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idk

obsidian wigeon
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i need vpn lol

south cliff
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also i think a 120 mm aio isnt going to work with a 12700k

little osprey
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1700

south cliff
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1829

obsidian wigeon
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oof

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that's kinda bad

south cliff
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yeah

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it is

obsidian wigeon
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no, it is bad

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120mm aio on that thing

south cliff
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thats wha ti said

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you need like a good 280-360 on a 12700k

potent portal
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Yep, that's a 280mm minimum needed I'd say

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Stock power draw is crazy

south cliff
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how much?

obsidian wigeon
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200w is expected

potent portal
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Spec says 190W

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200+ is totally possible

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My overclocked 5800X draws a lot less than that

obsidian wigeon
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but if you're willing to use a tad perf

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it could be efficient

south cliff
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i cant elive gpu prices are going down

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alot

potent portal
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Right? It's amazing how fast they dropped

south cliff
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only like 200 above msrp for a ftw3

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3070

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wellll

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nvm

potent portal
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3070 ti for $700

south cliff
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500 for nvidia version

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717 for ftw 3

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im very happy

untold beacon
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Hey guys

south cliff
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hi

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did it break

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?

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or is it alright?

untold beacon
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Since the 980 is a PCIE 3.0 ssd

potent portal
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It's fine in a 4.0 slot don't worry, PCIe is fully backward compatible

untold beacon
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Okay

south cliff
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i was about to say

untold beacon
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So listen it pops up in task manger but it won’t let me use the ssd

potent portal
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Go to disk management

south cliff
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is it partitioned

potent portal
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Shortcut by right clicking start button

obsidian wigeon
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it has to be initialized and partitioned

south cliff
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yeah

potent portal
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It'll ask if you want to initialize GPT or MBR, pick GPT

untold beacon
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I’m a just call it a night I’ve been doing this for the past 4 hours so I’m a head to bed

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I’ll fix this problem tomorrow

south cliff
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ok goodnight socialcredit

untold beacon
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Goodnight man

strong raft
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I'm waiting for RTX 420

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Asus TUF model has been that price very often lately. 🤘 Pog

potent portal
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The one I found was the Gigabyte Eagle OC

fossil cedar
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@plain cobalt what cpu cooler is that in build pics btw?

plain cobalt
fossil cedar
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Ahh how is it?

plain cobalt
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pretty good, rated at 280W TDP, enough to cool stock 10900

frigid night
worn wave
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Nothing near that price

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It's a Core 2 Duo

frigid night
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I was thinking its worth closer to $200.

worn wave
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Not even that

frigid night
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Its an aio thats still pretty ok

worn wave
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The specs are not worth that much

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2GB of RAM, low to mid range Core 2 Duo from 2007

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What would the use case of this PC be anyways?

frigid night
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Alright. Well, I bought one for $10.

worn wave
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It's no where near worth the listed price.

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Well for $10 not bad at all then

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Because that is all it is worth in reality

frigid night
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Was hoping I could clean it up and get it running good and make a profit on it.

mossy venture
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And even that's pushing it

worn wave
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You would need to spend more than its worth to make it useable for modern day tasks

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SSD and RAM upgrade at least

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Unless you literally just clean it reinstall windows and try to sell it

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Windows 10 would run awfully on that without a RAM or SSD upgrade

frigid night
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Hm ok. Maybe I can just use it as a 2nd monitor.

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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^

earnest olive
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you can get core2 duo PCs for free and 1080p60 IPS monitors for $25

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no shot that's ever worth 200

frigid night
mossy venture
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whatever you can find on facebook marketplace

earnest olive
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check fb marketplace

mossy venture
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i think the best i saw was a 1080p144hz VA panel for $55

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ive seen 1080p60 for as low as 15

earnest olive
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I've gotten multiple 1080p+ monitors at that price range

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my current second monitor is a 1920x1200 IPS with full ergonomics that I'm currently using as a vertical monitor

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also cost $27

mossy venture
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i bought my third monitor for too much

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i thought it was a good deal at the time

earnest olive
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also most all in ones do not allow you to repurpose them as a monitor

mossy venture
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thought 1440p75hz was sooo good for gaming

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much better than my 1080p165hz

earnest olive
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that pc is complete ewaste and it's a joke that they think they can get 400 for it

mossy venture
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paid $120 for it off reddit

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ooh

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sips

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p31 is on salefor $93 rn

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its normally 115 right?

little osprey
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around that

earnest olive
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I think it's normally higher

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good deal

mossy venture
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should i post in tech deals

little osprey
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if you think it’s a good deal

mossy venture
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nvm

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just posted it

earnest olive
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for reference if you're trying to get into flipping @frigid night $400 got me a build with i7-6700K, 16gb 3200c14, gtx 970, 512gb dram SSD, vertical mount, custom cables, 3 RGB fans, 650w gold psu, all on a red theme

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flipped for 650

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that's the kind of hardware you should be looking at for 400, not a core2 duo all in one

mossy venture
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my grandma spent like 1.5k on a god damn all in one

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with a 4600h

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when i found out it hurt me

earnest olive
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and this was during the shortage so the GTX 970 was $140 of that

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all in ones are a disgusting technology that needs to die

mossy venture
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agreed

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we should cool and all in one with an all in one

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because that works

earnest olive
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creates even more ewaste than your usual dell proprietary non upgradeable pc

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12 year old dell monitors are still solid

frigid night
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I only bought it because it landed in my store and the dude wanted smokes.

earnest olive
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12 year old dell PCs are not

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you bought that thing?

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for how much?

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oh no

frigid night
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$10

earnest olive
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still too much

frigid night
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Lol

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I'll find a use for it i suppose.

earnest olive
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use it as an extremely power inefficient shop display

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idk, the year is 2022, I'm seeing 4th and 6th gen desktops being offered for pennies/free sometimes

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saw a full build with an i5-4590 + 8gb + 320gb hdd posted for $20 the other day

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had a customer give me his old i5-4670 + 8gb + z87 mobo for free after upgrading his pc

mossy venture
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i tried to sell a 3470 and 1030 build for $150 and didn't even get any interest lol

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and that was back at the height of the shortage

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when 1030s were going for 100-120

earnest olive
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probably would have gotten a lot more interest if you put a 1050ti and asked for 200-250

mossy venture
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yeah and i would've had to buy the 1050 ti for 150-200 if i didn't want to wait too long

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also prolly wouldnt have fit

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tiny case

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barely fit the 1030

earnest olive
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ah I was assuming it was an optiplex or something

mossy venture
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if youve heard of it, thinkcentre

earnest olive
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I have

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lenovo

little osprey
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Office pc moment

frigid night
earnest olive
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i use it solely for marketplace

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ebay is an awful place to sell

frigid night
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ah, I have it disabled on my phone. I deleted my account years ago.

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just not my thing

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no social media. Discord is about as close to it as I can handle.

earnest olive
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facebook marketplace is really not social media but alright

frigid night
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can I get to marketplace without having to access through facebook?

jagged ember
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it's in the name

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I don't think you can

frigid night
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right I understand that, yall saying it isn't social media, but if I can't acces it without first going through facebook, then that makes it part of social media

jagged ember
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but

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that's not social media

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Facebook itself is

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a marketplace is not social media

stoic island
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Facebook marketplace is somewhat separated from Facebook

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You just log into Facebook

fossil cedar
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Just google fb marketplace and login with Facebook

stoic island
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It doesn't have much Facebook functions

frigid night
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ok. I just don't have a fb and don't really want to make one,.

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I might, but I really don't

fossil cedar
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Need to have an account anyway

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Or someone elses

analog pulsar
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It's in the app itself

mossy venture
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Marketplace still isn't social media

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The marketplace is separate from social media. You don't participate in the social media aspect to use marketplace

analog pulsar
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We still get photos and talk to people on market place

jagged ember
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then every market place is social media?

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ebay, best buy, newegg, amazon

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Alibaba, taobao

analog pulsar
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Isn't ebay and stuff categorized under social media in the play store and Apple store

jagged ember
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have you looked?

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they do have an entire category named 'shopping'

earnest olive
jagged ember
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bro yes

earnest olive
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bro...

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😳

viral ore
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bro yall on aliexpress O_O

ornate condor
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Any decent 1200w+ psu ?

viral ore
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at that wattage, most of them

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the real question is why you need more than 1200w?

ornate condor
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3090ti + 12900k hmm

viral ore
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ok so like 850 will do it

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1000 would be good

ornate condor
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I currently have 1000w but I wonder if I overloading it

viral ore
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oh psh not at all

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if it were having problems it would shut off

ornate condor
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12900k drawing almost 300w and gpus is almost 500w hmm

viral ore
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depending on the model...

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thats 800

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800 != 1000

ornate condor
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Its corsair rmx

waxen yacht
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Hello, Im planning to upgrade my PC and was looking for a new motherboard. Is there any difference in performance with 2 ram slot motherboard and 4 slot ram motherboard? I will only put 2 8gb 3200mhz ram on it.

ornate condor
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No performance difference they're botch dual channel actually

obsidian wigeon
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Hm, which cpu do you have?

ornate condor
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But it giving you more upgrade patch

obsidian wigeon
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And what's your budget for a mobo

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Two slots of ram on a board usually means it's a crap board or an itx

mossy venture
waxen yacht
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planning to upgrade from i3 9100f to i5-11400f

earnest olive
viral ore
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i thought you would never ask

ornate condor
waxen yacht
viral ore
obsidian wigeon
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that's not bad

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but yeah, i'd get 12400f

waxen yacht
obsidian wigeon
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or 12400

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cause 12400 is cheaper rn

viral ore
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140? oof imo jist wait till you can afford something better

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wait till you have 200

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get something worth paying for

ornate condor
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12400 us for 175$ right now

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And theres 110$ b660m mobos

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It's worth extra if you can effort it

analog pulsar
waxen yacht
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I think ill save up moree. But the thing is i really need to upgrade it because of work 🥲

earnest olive
viral ore
earnest olive
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beehive_o_flushed2 perhaps

mossy venture
waxen yacht
fossil cedar
viral ore
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i need this

ornate condor
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Especially on asrock mobos

strong raft
ornate condor
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True lol

little osprey
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What is a suggested SSD M.2 for the Prime Z690-P D4

strong raft
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If 1TB, hynix p31 at $92ish. If 2TB and/or gen 4, the $220 crucial p5 plus. FedoraTip @little osprey check tech deals. Pepe_cheers

little osprey
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ok thank you

desert void
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what would be a good build with a budget of 2500cad

fossil cedar
desert void
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gaming, building myself

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asking for a friend his budgeting is awful

fossil cedar
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Okay 1 sec

fossil cedar
desert void
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sure

fossil cedar
ornate condor
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So you all saying 1000w is enough for 3090ti + 12900k hmm

ornate condor
timid dragon
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So how do I upload a pic of my build?

ornate condor
timid dragon
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It doesn’t let me

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The little plus on the left side of my screen is dark and I click on it and nothing happens

analog pulsar
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@timid dragon you need higher rank but you can sent them to be and i can reupload them

frank stirrup
timid dragon
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Ahh okay okay I got you

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@analog pulsar okay thank you (:

frank stirrup
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itll take like 5 mins

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to get thee rank

timid dragon
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Ah okay bet thank you

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How are all of you?

frank stirrup
ornate condor
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I see very little difference between 50% and max fan speed like it's just few degree hmm

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I don't know what is point of maxing aio fan speed

fossil cedar
ornate condor
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Oh didn't seen that lol

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I thought it's usd

fossil cedar
ornate condor
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I see all prices are high now lol only mobo price got my attention then

desert gulch
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They'll tell you the benefit

ornate condor
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Umm mine is asus lc360 lol

desert gulch
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Lol

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Ek elite could also tell you

ornate condor
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Fans getting so loud but temps are pretty same lol

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I bet that's why its running at 50% in auto mode lol higher speeds are not efficient

analog pulsar
ornate condor
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Cool

untold beacon
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@potent portal remember the problem I was having yesterday

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Isn’t the 980 a gen three ssd

strong raft
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The non-pro is, but 980 pro is solidly a top tier gen 4.

untold beacon
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Ya

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I made a stupid mistake @strong raft

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I put the 980 in the gene 4 slot

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🤦🏻‍♂️

earnest olive
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a gen 3 drive is supposed to be able to work in a gen 4 slot

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pcie is always backwards compatible

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in fact, pcie is even backwards compatible with pci if physically adapted

potent portal
earnest olive
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plenty of people running gen 3 ssds in motherboards that support gen 4

untold beacon
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I mean

earnest olive
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you can put a graphics card from the 90s in a z690 motherboard with pcie 5

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and you can put a 3090ti in a motherboard from the 90s

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and they will work

untold beacon
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But if the slot even says gene 4 specifically on it

earnest olive
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that's called marketing

untold beacon
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Wouldn’t that mean gene 4 only

earnest olive
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there is no such thing as a gen 4 slot that does not support gen 3

untold beacon
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I mean then my ssd just might be

potent portal
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Not if it's backwards compatible, that's the definition of backwards compatible

untold beacon
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Screwed up

earnest olive
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if your car advertises going from 0 to 60 mph in 14 seconds, does that imply that your car cannot accelerate to 30 mph?

potent portal
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It's like playing PS4 games on a PS5

untold beacon
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Who the crap knows

earnest olive
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...we do

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and we told you

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lol

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most things designed to go a certain speed can also handle going half of that speed

potent portal
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You can try another slot if you really want but if it doesn't work then it's a bios issue, which I already recommended updating

earnest olive
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your fans can run at 50% without exploding

untold beacon
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Bro you don’t understand

earnest olive
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your cpu can downclock to idle without exploding

untold beacon
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It won’t even let me out of the BIOS

earnest olive
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your psu can supply 375w without exploding

untold beacon
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There is nothing for it to boot up on

earnest olive
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why do you need to leave bios to update bios?

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there is a tool to update bios... in the bios

untold beacon
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I’ve even updated BIOS

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It’s a infinite

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Loop

earnest olive
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then it's a faulty ssd

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simple as that

potent portal
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You didn't say you got the bios updated, I thought you were still a year behind

untold beacon
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I just sends me back into the BIOS over and over and over again so as I said probably just a bad SSD

earnest olive
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the first thing i said was that bios loop is normal behavior when a storage device is not detected

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something's wrong with it

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try a different one

untold beacon
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I’ll just get a new one with the warranty

potent portal
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A test for you: take out the SSD and try to boot the Windows installer usb

earnest olive
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i'm fairly certain fal'cie understands a lot more than you think he does, but he can't read your mind with information you haven't provided

strong raft
untold beacon
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No crap this guy knows a lot more then me

earnest olive
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nintendo dsi and gameboy? nintendo switch and anything before it?

potent portal
earnest olive
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i don't think a ps5 runs games from playstations older than 4 does it?

potent portal
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Yes, there's PS2 and PS1 games on the PS store

earnest olive
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virtual console emulation?

potent portal
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But not PS3 only titles because Sony made the processor too weird

potent portal
earnest olive
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i remember the original nintendo DS had the original gameboy advance cpu included to run the gameboy games with

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that was kinda cool

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running completely natively

strong raft
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Oh I meant maybe the ps3 couldn't run ps2 games, or maybe ps4 couldn't run ps3 games. Something like that. -- anyways what about removing all drives and rebooting then trying to enter bios, then shutdown and pull cmos. Then reinstall a drive.

earnest olive
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bios update would replace the need to clear cmos

potent portal
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Original PS3 had hardware emulation of PS2, second gen had software emulation

earnest olive
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it could be a physical seating issue

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dunno if that has been tried

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my friend has a 1tb nvme with no screw in her pc being held down with tape and prayers lol

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still working so far

potent portal
earnest olive
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listen to fal'cie

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very smart guy

ornate condor
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Umm sometimes wrong boot mode can couse not boot up 🤔

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And not detecting drive

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I would mess with boot options on bios

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I had similar experience before lol

strong raft
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Idk, but hopefully already tried uefi vs legacy boot settngs. Funny my z77/3rd gen was uefi but obviously doesn't have nvme.

potent portal
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That wouldn't prevent the Windows installer from booting though

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It boots both UEFI and CSM depending on config

ornate condor
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I had similar issue like bios loop and not boot option were not detecting I fixed it by changing modes

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And you have to save and restart after changing modes to boot options show up

strong raft
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Idk, I'd personally still lean towards the P31 Hynix even w/ lower sequential specs that's aren't really a factor in general use or gaming.

potent portal
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That's the same tier as the P31

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Which really speaks volumes that most of the other A tier drives are 4.0 and the P31 trades blows

untold beacon
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Update

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Didn’t do what you said @potent portal because I thought of something else why not use my Storage unit from my old pc

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So I used that for the build and I booted right up into it

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And right now I’m selecting the 980

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To be my main boot up drive

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Well it’s taking a lot bit but I’ll get it done

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Well that was a fail

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So I’m going to get my windows hard drive now and see if I have to have windows with the boot up or what

untold beacon
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Well can’t find the hard drive so

south cliff
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did you partition the drive?

ruby sentinel
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What if I use a fork for a pizza cutter?

native dew
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Ok so basically

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For context, I’m in the process of getting parts mainly for video editing, gaming, and streaming. So far I have a case, 850w PSU, 2x16 RAM, 4TB HDD, and a RTX 3060 shipping soon. I was told to get a better RTX (3070 or above) to compensate for the more higher end specs and I haven’t picked out a CPU/Motherboard yet.

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Advice?

potent portal
native dew
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I’m getting paid tmrw and I can pretty much afford most combos I see on Amazon.

ruby sentinel
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What do y'all think?

native dew
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I’m also getting a grant of $1,700 soon from my school but uh
Idk when that’ll be deposited to me so can’t rely on it rn he

ruby sentinel
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A grant? You better keep your grades up or else

native dew
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It’s all good I got straight A’s

ruby sentinel
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I'm proud of you

potent portal
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A good Z690 with a 12600k or 12700k would be good. Most of your usage tasks rely more on the GPU.

native dew
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And my tuition this semester is already paid off

ruby sentinel
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A 12700k is the best bang for your buck.

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It gives you better performance than the 12600k and almost as good as a 12900k

native dew
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Ic ic

ruby sentinel
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You can get a 12700k for about 350

native dew
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I heard Ryzen was better for Video Editing though

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Unless it doesn’t really matter

ruby sentinel
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I payed 374.84 for mine.

potent portal
#

Doesn't matter, 12th gen Intel matches or beats comparable Ryzen.

ruby sentinel
#

I mean. I guess you can go Ryzen.

ruby sentinel
#

Intel is just way better.

potent portal
#

$340 12700k

ruby sentinel
#

Yup. But you aren't taking into account that taxes are added first and then the discount

#

So depending on where you live you could pay more.

potent portal
#

Taxes vary by region

#

If they're in Oregon there's no tax at all lol

ruby sentinel
#

That's what I said.

#

Oregon has no sales tax?

native dew
#

In Virginia

potent portal
#

Yep no sales tax in Oregon

ruby sentinel
#

Sales tax %?

vague oracle
#

Should be around 5% iirc

native dew
#

Yea

#

5.3

ruby sentinel
#

Damb

vague oracle
#

Close enough, I’ll take it

ruby sentinel
#

We have 10.25 over here.

native dew
#

Christ

ruby sentinel
#

Yup

vague oracle
#

I got 4% where I am

ruby sentinel
#

Lucky

#

Texas?

vague oracle
#

New York

potent portal
#

Do you need wifi on your motherboard?

vague oracle
#

Combined its around 7.25%

ruby sentinel
#

New York has 4%

#

Holy crap

vague oracle
#

You have to add in the county sales tax

potent portal
#

8.75% here

ruby sentinel
#

Alabama, Georgia, Hawaii, New York, and Wyoming, all at 4%

#

Colorado is the lowest.

#

2.9%

vague oracle
#

Pennsylvania lowest

#

0%

ruby sentinel
#

I feel scammed

native dew
ruby sentinel
#

I have to pay so much taxes.

ruby sentinel
#

It's just for flexible

potent portal
vague oracle
#

Nevermind, PA now has sales tax again apparently

native dew
#

Wifi

ruby sentinel
#

If you can't use a Ethernet than you need WiFi.

native dew
#

Excuse my dumbassery BlaneyPog

potent portal
ruby sentinel
#

Also, WiFi motherboards have Bluetooth

native dew
#

The instructions on my tower case also says it requires an aRGB 3v5pin motherboard iirc

potent portal
#

It has that

native dew
#

Ballin

frank stirrup
#

that board has everything u need

ruby sentinel
#

Yup

#

I personally don't like messing with extra cables and the lights are too much. But it can be cool.

native dew
#

Thanks for also picking out the CPU Cooler but I already had my sights on the Kraken Z63

ruby sentinel
#

Wow

#

Rich boy

native dew
ruby sentinel
#

I'm poor so I have a EVGA CLC 360

potent portal
#

That's the 280mm one right? Should be fine

ruby sentinel
#

There is only one size for the z63

frank stirrup
#

im so poor i have a smaller hyper 212 that idles my cpu at like 65C'

#

lolololol

ruby sentinel
#

Guys. You didn't look at my build. TwT

#

Look at it.

#

The link

native dew
ruby sentinel
#

Only 2 fans.

native dew
#

Or is that the x version

ruby sentinel
#

The z73 has 3 fans

native dew
#

Once again excuse my dumbassery

frank stirrup
ruby sentinel
#

Holy crap. My CLC is 5th best water-cooler

ruby sentinel
desert gulch
#

Hella loud

potent portal
#

It moves up a rank if you change the fans

ruby sentinel
#

But mine wasn't very loud.

#

Like 36 dbs at high

desert gulch
#

Sheesh you measured it?

ruby sentinel
#

Yes sir

desert gulch
#

Or other pples testing?

ruby sentinel
#

Wanna see?

desert gulch
#

Ye

ruby sentinel
#

Jk

#

I'm poor. Don't have the tools.

frank stirrup
#

lemme make my build list

ruby sentinel
#

Only have drills and construction stuff.

#

Don't have fancy sound stuff

frank stirrup
ruby sentinel
#

Not reliable

desert gulch
#

Headset mic

potent portal
ruby sentinel
#

I didn't know that it came with the LGA 1700 installed.

#

I asked the person to please send me one and they did.

potent portal
#

What case though?

ruby sentinel
#

I feel bad

#

No case, my dude.

potent portal
#

Open air? Rock on

ruby sentinel
#

I am building a custom case out of a furniture thing

#

No open air. Too much dust.

#

I'm allergic to dust too.

#

This is the work in progress

#

Just seeing how to put everything

potent portal
#

Interesting. It'll be fun to see when it's finished, put it in #build-pics

ruby sentinel
#

That's the plan.

#

Just need to wait like 2-3 months to get a GPU

potent portal
#

Can't afford right now or waiting for prices?

ruby sentinel
#

For the new ones to be announced

#

I want to see if it's worth.

potent portal
#

Ah, well those won't launch for at least 6 months

ruby sentinel
#

But supposedly the 4060 is as good or a little bit behind the 3080

#

It's okay. I can wait.

#

I'm pretty patient.

potent portal
#

4060 will be closer to February

ruby sentinel
#

Nah

#

They will probably need to put them first since Intel is going to put their first cheap GPU up for sale.

frank stirrup
#

my build

ruby sentinel
#

Nvidia will try to get a comeback

#

It's private.

frank stirrup
potent portal
#

Not from what I've seen, they're launching 4080 and 4090 first

ruby sentinel
potent portal
#

Because AMD is tougher competition than a newcomer like Intel

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
#

i thought about it

little osprey
#

Nvidia and intel always release the high end ones first

frank stirrup
#

and no

ruby sentinel
#

lol

little osprey
#

budget always follows Q1 or Q2 of the next year

ruby sentinel
#

I can't find any to buy!

#

I need the 3600

little osprey
#

you cant find 3600mhz ram?

potent portal
ruby sentinel
#

And yours is all mixed up. Why have 3200 and 3600

frank stirrup
#

me at one point

#
  • 2 more were in my pc
ruby sentinel
#

Nice fingers.

frank stirrup
#

sorry for causing ballistix shortage

little osprey
ruby sentinel
#

No!

#

I already bought the 3600

little osprey
#

ballistix is dirt cheap for eu

frank stirrup
little osprey
#

and its in stock there too

ruby sentinel
#

I don't want to buy 32gbs of 3200

frank stirrup
#

3200 was cheaper

#

by like 50%

little osprey
frank stirrup
#

so i got that when i upgraded to 32gb

potent portal
#

You need to know what to look for if you're doing 3200

ruby sentinel
little osprey
#

ok didnt say you did

#

i just mentioned it

frank stirrup
#

ballistix 3200 is as goos as the 3600 kit really

little osprey
#

yes

#

ballistix good

ruby sentinel
frank stirrup
little osprey
#

3200cl16 is fine

ruby sentinel
#

3600 cl16

little osprey
#

oh

frank stirrup
ruby sentinel
little osprey
#

overclock moment

ruby sentinel
#

UwU

frank stirrup
#

but imc cant take the load with 4 sticks

little osprey
#

w build

frank stirrup
#

so 3600c16 is what i do now

little osprey
#

case seem kinda expensive for that price

frank stirrup
potent portal
frank stirrup
#

just converted to usd

little osprey
#

build is a fat 7/10

ruby sentinel
#

Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4B (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083V93HJG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_C930E1YDGTDB74NF383Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

frank stirrup
ruby sentinel
#

That's what I got

little osprey
#

570 lacking but still better than my card i think

#

im biased to give you a better score because my pc is trash

frank stirrup
little osprey
#

yes but in general still better than my card

frank stirrup
#

top 15 globally bin

little osprey
#

so its good in my books

ruby sentinel
#

You're good in my books

potent portal
#

Get a GPU when you can and it'll be good, and also 5800X3D

little osprey
#

bruh

#

5800x3d lol

ruby sentinel
#

Great for gaming

#

Sometimes.

little osprey
#

i mean yeah after a gpu upgrade thats a good option

potent portal
#

By the time it's a good price in India next gen will be out, and it's cheaper than a platform upgrade

frank stirrup
little osprey
#

i think the cpu is still okay even after gpu upgrade

ruby sentinel
#

A maiden upgrade is better.

frank stirrup
#

and i fully plan a cpu upgrade next year

potent portal
#

As it stands, the parts are outdated but still halfway decent. I say 6.5/10

#

You'll need a new cooler for an upgrade too

frank stirrup
#

i built it 2020

potent portal
#

But you already know that

frank stirrup
#

so yeah makes sense

frank stirrup
little osprey
ruby sentinel
#

2 years old?

little osprey
#

i like how you bought corsair fan for $15

#

and 3 pack of cm 120mm fan for $30

#

why cant i send the image

ruby sentinel
#

My laptop is a HP pavilion x360 and it can beat up your desktop

little osprey
#

uhhh

#

oh my god

#

didnt mean for the image to send that many times

frank stirrup
ruby sentinel
#

Buy it

frank stirrup
#

i bought far far cheaper fans

#

amazon shipped these ones

frank stirrup
potent portal
frank stirrup
potent portal
#

I'm sure limited part selection played a factor

frank stirrup
#

it really did

#

good psus are hard to get here

potent portal
#

It's great for what it is then

frank stirrup
#

a tiers are very very tough to get and almost impossible to find in shops

potent portal
#

You wouldn't really need an A tier for that at least

frank stirrup
#

yeah but just saying

#

an a tier psu will start at 150$ converted

#

that pc will get my rx570 when i upgrade tho

#

also the prices listed arent what they say

#

i just dont remeber how much it was

potent portal
#

Figured

limber oyster
#

so....my co-worker asked me for a parts list for a dual gpu crypto-currency mining rig....

#

i have no idea what to look for

#

can anyone help?

fossil cedar
#

Not to make profit

limber oyster
#

he's the manager as well so...

potent portal
#

There's not enough time to pay off the investment cost before mining stops

fossil cedar
#

1 that's illegal and stealing from work, 2 still not worry it

limber oyster
#

and what you mean by mining stops?

potent portal
#

Ethereum mining is ending this year. 5 months give or take.

limber oyster
#

what about bitcoin or something?

fossil cedar
#

Eth is the most profitable to mine on a GPU

limber oyster
#

ahh

fossil cedar
#

Bitcoin is not mine-able on gpus anymore... To complex you need an asic

potent portal
#

Bitcoin cannot be profitably mined on a gpu

limber oyster
#

gotchya

#

so...how do people do it then?

fossil cedar
#

You would have to move to ergo or something which is meh

fossil cedar
limber oyster
#

whats that?

potent portal
#

Other coins might make about half as much per watt

#

Assuming they don't end too

limber oyster
#

(ik next to nothing about crypto if you cant tell)

potent portal
#

The current return on investment time is a year and a half for a LHR 3080. Ethereum mining ends this year. Then you're stuck with a GPU you have to sell at a loss because it's last gen.

limber oyster
#

so what im hearing is crypto mining is dying out comepletely?

fossil cedar
#

Basically your friend needed to get into this at least a year ago

fossil cedar
potent portal
#

There's been widespread criticism of crypto mining for how much power the network uses. There's a lot of social and political pressure on mined coins. Some countries and regions are banning it outright.

limber oyster
#

ik Cali banned it, they tried to ban pc gaming as well

potent portal
#

No that's a clickbait headline

strong raft
#

Eh all they did was stop prebuilts over a certain wattage

limber oyster
#

ahh

potent portal
#

Not even that, it's new efficiency standards. Some companies and some models didn't meet it.

limber oyster
#

the so called pcie 5.0 right?

#

that some advertised as using but didnt really

potent portal
#

No, that doesn't exist yet

strong raft
#

Well lots of "high power" prebuilts can't be shipped to CA anymore. Not a big deal though. Gpu prices alone got a lot better already

potent portal
limber oyster
#

so.. just tell him he's SOL?

potent portal
#

He'd be throwing away money

#

It's too late to invest into mining

#

Take that same money he would have put into a mining rig and buy some Ethereum.

limber oyster
#

gotchya

fossil cedar
potent portal
#

The standard exists yes but nothing uses it

fossil cedar
#

3090 ti does

potent portal
#

Sort of

fossil cedar
#

For the power connector

limber oyster
#

did the 3090 ti even release yet?

fossil cedar
#

I mean it does and there's a handful of psus now with the connector

#

Yep

potent portal
#

Yes

limber oyster
#

god, i cant imagine the price

fossil cedar
#

2k

limber oyster
#

or even needing a gpu with that much VRAM

fossil cedar
#

Good for editing workloads

#

And production stuff

limber oyster
#

and yet advertised as a "gaming GPU"

potent portal
#

4k HDR video editing

#

Yeah, it replaced the titan tier for this gen

limber oyster
#

i got into an argument with someone that the 3090/3090 ti is more akin to the Titan Class cards and NOT a gaming gpu. they tried to tell me that 3090/3090ti were gaming cards because that what nvidia advertised them as

potent portal
#

I can advertise a bottle of lemon water as revolutionary breakthrough in hydration, doesn't make it true

limber oyster
#

my point

fossil cedar
#

3090/ti is the titan card

limber oyster
#

or chevy's/ford's being advertised as the best quality vehicle

limber oyster
#

thats why it has 20+VRAM

celest horizon
#

They game better than the 3080/ti, that's all we need to know. Those who can justify the price (for gaming) can enjoy the marginally higher framerates.

#

Or if you just need more vram.

mossy venture
#

i need a 3090 ti for roblox

#

oh also for tetris

viral ore
#

I need 3090ti bc its so cold in my house

glossy gull
#

6700 xt just arrived got it for 560 from Newegg but now I wanna return it cuz I have the budget for the 6800 xt I’m going for 1440p 170 fps comp settings and 100 ish fps on single player games

#

Should I tho

#

Cuz I saw the 6700 xt only gets 130 fps on apex and I want 170 or 144 gos on comp games

#

And struggles on games like metro and stuff

fossil cedar
#

Maybe at high settings but I'd imagine you're going to be running medium/low if you're playing comp games?

glossy gull
#

Ya

#

Ned

#

Med

#

I have the m27q and I wanna get the most out of it

fossil cedar
#

Should be perfectly fine

#

I haven't played apex but the latest cod runs at like 200fps at 1440p low for me with a 3060 ti which is a bit weaker

glossy gull
#

What cpu

fossil cedar
#

R5 3600

glossy gull
#

I get 12400

#

Tomorrow

mossy venture
#

12400 is a great cpu

#

Good enough for a 3090

glossy gull
mossy venture
glossy gull
#

That’s why I’m so sad

#

Like I wanna die

mossy venture
#

Anyways, whatever you want to do. Could post to r/hardwareswap looking to trade your 6700xt + cash for a 6800xt

#

6900xts also available for 1k fairly often, or 3080 on evga available for 920 fairly often too

glossy gull
#

Damn

#

I can refund

#

But it’s 100 usd to refund

#

Like ship it

jagged ember
#

what's the price difference if you'd bought the 6800xt instead

mossy venture
#

That ain't worth it imo

fossil cedar
glossy gull
glossy gull
fossil cedar
glossy gull
#

The guys from Newegg said 130 usd

#

To refund

#

Bunch of clowns

fossil cedar
#

Return shipping should be free if not like 20$ maybe

#

Wth

glossy gull
#

Idk what to do

#

Why do I have to pay 130 usd

mossy venture
rich void
glossy gull
#

I already got all my components

jagged ember
#

damn that's literally 400 difference if you returned it

glossy gull
jagged ember
#

ish

glossy gull
#

Ya

jagged ember
#

not worth a return imo

rich void
# glossy gull Wdym

Some places charge a restocking fee for returns idk the exact Newegg policy but if you opened it that may matter

#

imo not worth a return as well

glossy gull
#

Damn

rich void
#

I returned a card to Newegg unopened and they refunded me everything but the initial shipping ($10), both reps I spoke to specifically asked if I opened it (did not)

jagged ember
#

could do ebay or fb marketplace

glossy gull
#

So depressing lmao

jagged ember
#

then buy 6800xt

rich void
#

That was also right around when the returns scandal hit though so idk I may have gotten lucky

#

FB marketplace or something is probably better, ebay fees will hurt so you'd have to sell for a good bit over MSRP to break even

glossy gull
#

So rip

glossy gull
#

So they 100 percent won’t refund it

#

?

obsidian wigeon
#

They will

#

But you pay shipping fees

glossy gull
#

Damn

#

Only cuz it’s opened

glossy gull
glossy gull
#

Fees is 130 euro

#

6800 xt is 950

#

If I refund

obsidian wigeon
#

oof

#

that's a steep fee

glossy gull
#

Ya

#

Israel

#

Idk what to do

#

6800 xt is 20 percent more performance

#

12th grade?

#

Or collage

#

Congrats man

#

Lmao

rich void
#

You done this/next month?

glossy gull
#

Like it’s back in the box

#

I opened it for a sec to see it

rich void
#

I mean it's a good card, imo just stick with it.
Your other option is to try to sell it at MSRP locally imo

glossy gull
#

The thing is

#

I have a 2060

#

Used

#

For a year

#

I can sell

rich void
#

Ah, so got a bit to go. Glad you're done with that final, keep at it!

strong raft
#

Still build chat, lol.

glossy gull
#

Even if I pay 100 usd for shipping

rich void
#

I personally do not. $400 more for 20% more performance is rough

glossy gull
#

More then 400

#

I mean

#

The 400 for the card yhe 400 more

#

But 100 more for shipping

rich void
#

Feels like a lot to me, but it's not my money/I wouldn't be the one trying to sell the 6700xt

tardy knoll
#

The lights are moving through the wires in a pattern kinda

fossil cedar
#

@frigid night i thought the character on the left of your mousepad was buz lightyear lol

frigid night
#

oooo I see it 😄

#

haha that's funny

fossil cedar
#

Yeah lol

strong raft
#

Build me something like that old Weird Science movie.Pepe_KEK

#

Mommizard instead of charizard, could be interesting

earnest olive
rugged sparrow
#

What case will be the best for midtower

rich void
rugged sparrow
#

Just used for gaming

#

And around $100

mossy venture
#

p400a digital, 4000d airflow

rich void
#

I mean it depends on what kind of water-cooling support you want, how much glass you want, if you want RGB, etc

rugged sparrow
#

I have a prebuilt right now and want to switch cases during the summer

mossy venture
#

p360a

rich void
#

P400a, lian LI mesh 2, cooler master td500 iirc, there are a bunch of good ones

#

I'd personally look more at the lian LI if I was building my PC again (I have the p400a)

rugged sparrow
#

Also is there a way to see what cpu cooler you have

mossy venture
#

by looking at it

rugged sparrow
#

Hmmm

strong raft
#

It's probably crap. Could take a pic and show us. Pepe_KEK

mossy venture
#

what cpu do you have

rugged sparrow
#

R7 5800x

#

I have the cpu cooler in the picture

fossil cedar
#

oh god

earnest olive
glossy gull
#

I’m not gonna say anything

earnest olive
#

he bought a strix prebuilt

#

oh no

glossy gull
#

Did he already get it

earnest olive
#

my favorite part of the strix prebuilt is that it doesn't use any strix components

glossy gull
#

Ironic

#

People buy prebuilt like it’s ice cream

#

Then their ice cream falls on the ground like the money they wasted

rugged sparrow
#

I got it in January for 1700

little osprey
#

Eh

rugged sparrow
#

Should I get a new cpu cooler because I did a stress test and it peaks around 90.5

rich void
#

That's hot.

#

Case is likely an issue too though tbf

rugged sparrow
#

Does only come with one exhaust fan

#

Lmao

glossy gull
#

Like visuallyngood

#

But 0’airflow

rugged sparrow
#

b-550m asus prime does it support rgb fans and AIO, I don’t know much about mobos

desert gulch
#

5800x can be the hottest running 5000 chip out there

#

It'll support aio

#

And should support RGB aswell, it's more a question of the amount of ports/headers

glossy gull
rugged sparrow
#

I could care less about the money part of it

earnest olive
#

90c is normal for a 5800x

#

look at how much power it's drawing at 90c

#

my 5800x hits 90c under a 360mm aio at 165w

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

if it's 90c at 105w that's a big oof

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

probably

rugged sparrow
#

If I get a 4000D airflow case what would be a good cpu cooler

fossil cedar
#

That's a case not a cooler

#

But it would be a better case yes

rugged sparrow
#

Well ya I was just wondering if there is a certain cooler that works best with the case

fossil cedar
#

Arctic liquid freezer ii 360mm would be the best one

rugged sparrow
#

I would assume you would have to front mount it right?

earnest olive
#

ye

#

top mount doesn't support 360 in that case

#

you can do 280 top

fossil cedar
#

280 is almost as good but 360 is better if you can

rugged sparrow
#

The 4000D come with 3 case fans as well, so I would be able to put 2 on the top and one on the back

fossil cedar
#

2 case fans

#

But yeah you can

frigid night
#

I think the budget went from 400 to 600 maybe even 800

#

lol

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

12100f

frigid night
#

I am trying to get that out of her.

#

she all of a sudden stopped responding when I posted that lol

fossil cedar
#

Lol it's g 1 sec

frigid night
#

I guess the most demanding use would be light gaming.

desert gulch
#

looks fairly good to me

#

i personally would swap to 12100f and b660

#

if really looking to cut costs, even swap to h610, but youll lose out on a bit if you doo

#

but if looking at a 3200cl16 kit, h610 makes sense for a 12100f

mossy venture
#

So it will clock down to jedec

desert gulch
#

yes

#

but

frigid night
#

idk that she really needs more than that. She'll want to watch movies and do facebook and play games here and there

desert gulch
#

itll work at 3200

mossy venture
#

No it wont

desert gulch
#

so doesnt really matter too much either way

#

ye it will