#building-and-recc-chat

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fossil cedar
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Check your manual for the front header pinout

forest lava
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That's the thing... I don't think it's part of that

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It's separate from the power, reset, hdd led, etc

worn wave
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Its most likely power LED

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Does it come from the front panel?

little osprey
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Ye hopefully

fossil cedar
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Budget?

little osprey
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i’m trying to decide if i should keep or get rid of the 9400f

fossil cedar
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What's the budget?

little osprey
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hhhh

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around 1.2k usd

fossil cedar
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And what do you have currently? Like can you reuse ram or is it 2133 or something

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Reuse storage maybe?

little osprey
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2666 not worth

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i’ll reuse my hard drives

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i might want an mp33 or 34 1tb tho

fossil cedar
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Would you keep 1650 and try get better priced gpu or?

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Yeye

little osprey
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3060/ti

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one of ‘em

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whichever i can get when i’m buying parts

fossil cedar
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I mean you can fit them in a brand new build now

forest lava
fossil cedar
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When will you be buying

little osprey
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two months maybe rn i’m just deciding if it’s worth reusing 9400f or not

fossil cedar
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Ehh for 1.2k I'd say no

little osprey
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ill be buying a 200+ dollar case soonish lol

fossil cedar
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Obviously this list would be slightly different in 2 months but if you were to do rn I'll whip up a list for that

little osprey
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So by going 9400f it would be roughly $950

fossil cedar
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Mkay 1 sec

forest lava
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That is not power led

fossil cedar
little osprey
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Mmmm i might need a smaller case

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like a microatx size that still fits atx parts

fossil cedar
little osprey
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My desk doesn’t have space for a bigger case

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It barely fits my HP one

little osprey
forest lava
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As soon as I add the 24 pin connector, my build is as good as done

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I just need to experiment with my RAM

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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You could do o11 air mini

little osprey
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hm, facts

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i’ll have to research cases

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i want it to be something pretty original and not overused ones

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unique ig

earnest olive
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make a cardboard box case

little osprey
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maybe i’m being too picky here

earnest olive
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and paint it

little osprey
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Drywall pc

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shove the parts in the drywall

forest lava
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Hmmm

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@bitter mason So only one pair of my RAM appears to be compatible at a time...

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The C00LF is compatible with the other C00LF, same with B00LF to the other, but using all four of them doesn't allow the device to post

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It just makes the PC stuck in a failed boot loop where the case fan spins

earnest olive
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is this after attempting to apply xmp or is this at default settings

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have you tried a CMOS clear

fringe iris
earnest olive
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maybe some of your ram slots are faulty, try slots 1/3 and 2/4 separately

forest lava
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fortunately my 8x2 GB 2400 ram works

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Why does it say I can't run windows 11

earnest olive
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enable tpm in bios or do a bios update to one that is windows 11 ready by default

forest lava
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I'm stuck on something else now

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I'm not in a position where using the ethernet is viable so I bought a tplink internet adapter

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Except I need to download a driver

jagged ember
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use your phone as a hotspot for your wifi

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and plug it into your pc

forest lava
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I don't have a usb charger cord

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I've been using a laptop charger for my phone for over a year now

jagged ember
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that's something I didn't think I'd ever hear tbh

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I'm out of ideas then

forest lava
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lmao

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Eh could a usb work?

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If I were to download the driver from my laptop onto a usb?

little osprey
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Lol😂

earnest olive
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absolutely nobody in the world has ever used an O11

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definitely get that one

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make sure you also fill it up with some unifans for maximum uniqueness, that combo has never been seen before

little osprey
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Oh wow, really? I am bamboozled by this information

earnest olive
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don't forget your funko pop and supreme sticker on the front glass

little osprey
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funko pops are cringe

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in pc builds

earnest olive
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me with my vayne statue

little osprey
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L

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Your build is exempt

earnest olive
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ok but this vayne statue is cooler than a funko pop

little osprey
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exactly

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Funky poop

earnest olive
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dragging her support along with her crossbow

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chad

little osprey
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You should hang a paimon figure from the top of your case

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By the neck

forest lava
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Now that my PC is mostly done... I have one final inquiry

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GPU drivers

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Do I need to install them?

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Or is it pre-installed?

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Somehow have Vsync off on desktop

stoic island
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Will need to download GPU drivers

frigid night
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I'm deciding if I want to grab a different case before I slap all my collected stickers on it.

little osprey
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Yoooo nice

earnest olive
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I spy ketchup and mustard

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on brand for sausage man

little osprey
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Epic.

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I like boards of canada better tho

cerulean hatch
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can i ask a tech support related question here?

formal girder
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Go ahead

cerulean hatch
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i unplug and replug my computer a lot because i live with a lot of people and have to move around a lot. lately right after i plug it in it wont turn on right away. i have to wait like 10 or 20 seconds and then it will turn on

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i havent had any issues besides that tho

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is the power supply failing?

earnest olive
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smh

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no more ketchup and mustard

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sad

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you should get red and yellow custom cables

earnest olive
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hopefully lol

cerulean hatch
earnest olive
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you'd be surprised

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I saw someone who actually just turned off their PC by unplugging it

cerulean hatch
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lol probably right

earnest olive
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and didn't care when we said that can damage your components

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like they would do that every night

cerulean hatch
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wow lol

little osprey
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No, ur epic

earnest olive
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unfortunately I don't really know the answer to your question

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maybe the capacitors are charging up

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dunno

cerulean hatch
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ok i might ask on a forum or reddit or something then

earnest olive
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if you turn it off, unplug it, then immediately plug it back in and turn it on, do you still have to wait?

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or is it only after it was unplugged for a while

cerulean hatch
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i never leave it unplugged so i couldn't say

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its about 50% of the time it happens tho

earnest olive
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weird

cerulean hatch
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yea idk maybe an electrical issue

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like with the house wiring

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is there an optimal amount of time you're supposed to press the power button? i've had experience with computers not turning on if you dont press it long enough

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but then other times you hardly tap the power button for a second and it turns on

earnest olive
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i've handled like 50 different pcs at this point and power button is always instant

little osprey
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@little osprey WHat are you gonna be doing with the system you wanna build

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Oh well yea, those boards can definitely be fun

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Some of them have server chipsets yea, c602

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well actually just 1 model i knw off the top of my head anyway

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I know for sure they all support xeons, but iirc some of them have issues with the consumer lga2011 chips because of their different PCI-e lane count

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you should be totally good with a xeon though

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sounds good lol

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is there anyway i can build a ryzen 7 5800x, 3060 build for 1400?

forest lava
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@bitter mason @fossil cedar Thank you again for all your help. I just finished installing the last drivers and it's 99% functional

little osprey
forest lava
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I highly doubt you'll be able to get a build with both of those pieces at 1400

little osprey
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what about 1600

forest lava
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Maybe

mossy venture
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Is the point of the pc gaming?

little osprey
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yea gaming lol

mossy venture
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Alr one moment

little osprey
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i have a ryzen 7 3700x and a 2060 super prebuilt rn

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but im selling it

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and i wanna replace it

little osprey
mossy venture
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2060 super is very slightly worse the 3060

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Like

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Less than 10%

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Not worth upgrading

little osprey
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i just wanna get rid of a prebuilt tbh

mossy venture
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And the 3700x is also a great cpu

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You could keep the cpu and gpu

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And prolly some other parts

little osprey
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should i keep the mother board

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wait

mossy venture
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Depends what it is

little osprey
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i have a pic of the specs

mossy venture
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Send

little osprey
mossy venture
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All you need to change is psu, case and cooler

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Rest is fine

little osprey
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what do i do with the case psu and cooler

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sell it?

mossy venture
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Sure

little osprey
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i wanna get a lian li mini, then idk what cooler, and then an evga psu

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and i dont have a bad 2060 super, i have the msi twin frozr 7

little osprey
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lian li o11 mini or lian li o11 mini air

bitter mason
mossy venture
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The psus super overkill for you but it sounds like you'd want to upgrade gpu soon

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You'll be fine with a 3080 on that

little osprey
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should i just stick to these specs and save up and upgrade as i go

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would this be good

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or even the 360 one

mossy venture
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wait

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replied to wrong one

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the 3700x is a fine cpu, even for a 3080

little osprey
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yea ik

mossy venture
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id upgrade gpu first

little osprey
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ok

mossy venture
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the psu could definitely use an upgrade

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as in gpu upgrade after the case, cooler and psu

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that psu will cry with a 3080

little osprey
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ok

mossy venture
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not to say that you need to anytime soon, but out of cpu and gpu gpu should be the first to upgrade

little osprey
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is there anything better looking for the same price as the 5000 d

mossy venture
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the p400a digital if you want to check it out

stoic island
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looks are subjective

mossy venture
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i like the look of it

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but its a bit expensive rn

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i prefer functionality over looks personally

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but to each their own

stoic island
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p500a 4000d airflow td500 mesh CM h500 (no suffix) all good

little osprey
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4000d airflow is nice

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plus 15 cheaper than the 5000d

mossy venture
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is it on sale?

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thought it was the same price

little osprey
mossy venture
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nice

little osprey
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newegg

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should i get an id cooling aio

mossy venture
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if you want an aio, liquid freezer ii 280 or 360

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the 240 is overpriced atm

little osprey
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also my ram is white and my motherboard is kinda white so i might just go white case and buy a white 3080 down the line

mossy venture
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p400a digital has a white variant

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its cheaper than the black one too

little osprey
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i can get a white 4000d airflow for 85

mossy venture
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if you prefer the look go for it

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but i believe the p400a is better

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and comes with more fans

little osprey
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true

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what i was abt to say

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$100

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not bad

mossy venture
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as for psu, white psus are few and far between

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that would require someone elses help

little osprey
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i dont need a white psu tho

mossy venture
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i only know of one white psu and its expensive

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alr thats good then

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if you want a white cooler, i think the lian li galahad has a white variant

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but its also expensive

little osprey
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yep

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130

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i think

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at microcenter

mossy venture
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oh thats not bad

little osprey
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what psu

mossy venture
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pcp has it much higher

mossy venture
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if you want to wait for 40 series, id grab a bitfenix whisper m

little osprey
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wait 360 lian like is like 200

mossy venture
little osprey
little osprey
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25 min drive

mossy venture
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bitfenix whisper m is a good choice then, so is the rmx 850 and d.f

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also leadex III if mc happens to have any of those

little osprey
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but i cant go there myself 😢

mossy venture
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ah

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dont have a license?

little osprey
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im 14 lol

little osprey
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should i go for like evga psu

mossy venture
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wait

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no thats backwards

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model over brand

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different brands have different models

little osprey
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never heard of bitfenix

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no way im paying 200

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i feel like thats a scam

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lol

leaden canyon
little osprey
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160 at mc

little osprey
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and also should i go white or black

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build

mossy venture
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the whisper m i know for sure is A tier

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idk

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its up to you

little osprey
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i feel like id rather go with evga for 15 more

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plus its already at mc

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so its easier

mossy venture
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@stoic island super nova is A tier right?

little osprey
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this is getting expensive lol

mossy venture
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the bitfenix nova 750 is also A tier

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and itll be fine with a 3080

little osprey
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how much is it

mossy venture
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75

little osprey
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damn

little osprey
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i just down want a gpu to fail on me

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we all know that good be VERY VERY bad

mossy venture
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im about to be running a 6800xt on a 650w

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that psu is A tier, and will run a 3080 fine

little osprey
mossy venture
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currently 3060 ti

little osprey
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i might just stick to evga but thats just me

mossy venture
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but 6800xt is coming very soon

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my evga psu died on me

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the model is more important than brand

little osprey
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its not a giant difference

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ok i have a case and psu

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now time for the cooler

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might as well go black on the build because the inside of the case is black

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i might get the evga supernova 850 watt for 100

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from mc

stoic island
mossy venture
stoic island
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Don't grab any of those

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All overpriced

little osprey
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i could get the ga for 100

mossy venture
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theyre deadset on evga

stoic island
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At least get a g6

stoic island
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@little osprey for next time, just know, don't go by the brand name on the PSU because most of the time, they don't even make the PSU.
In this case, GA is some random andyson platform, GT is some random HEC platform, G3 is a CWT platform, G6 is a Seasonic platform

little osprey
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ok

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thx

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is g6 one i sent good

stoic island
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Yes

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G6 is an improved seasonic focus platform iirc

little osprey
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if in the future i wanna run a 3700x and 3080

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or maybe a 40 series

stoic island
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It'll work, you could do 850w if you want extra headroom, although not too sure on how next gen power connectors will work

little osprey
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ok

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but 750 should be good right

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850 is an extra 10

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might as well

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will a 140 mm psu go into the 4000d airflow ?

stoic island
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Ye, it'll fit up to 180mm

little osprey
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ok

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now its down to the cooler

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should i go 360mm?

stoic island
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4000d won't do 360mm top mount but you can do front mount

little osprey
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then 240 top mount and 3 120s in the front

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prolly

stoic island
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As long as you don't do dumb ram you can do 280mm top mount if you want

little osprey
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wdym dumb ram

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i have xpg ram

stoic island
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Corsair vengeance rgb is unnecessarily wide

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Anything that's not unnecessary wide will work fine

little osprey
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idk i have xpg ram

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doesnt look very fat

stoic island
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Iirc should be fine

little osprey
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k

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what white aio should i get

stoic island
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Ek-aio or Galahad basically

leaden canyon
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Which one would be better? I assume just adding it since it should have 2x slots also should i upgrade the fan on that ?

little osprey
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which one? or is there anything else thats better?

strong raft
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I'd probably lean towards the MSI. that deepcool also is sold by a 3rd party.

little osprey
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if my psu and case are from a 3rd party is that bad

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@stoic island @mossy venture would this be good as a new psu,cooler, and case

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or can i get a better deal

stoic island
little osprey
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let me see

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130 at mc

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should i go for that

stoic island
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Over the MSI cooler, yea

little osprey
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is there any other aioi can get that is white and good

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these 3 things come out to 350 plus tax

strong raft
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Oh I see, the "shipped from amazon/newegg" PSU is priced moderately higher. nvrmind.

little osprey
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its gonna be like 385 with tax 😭

stoic island
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Can't think of much else

little osprey
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K thx for all the help

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Prolly gonna talk to my mom and order it later tn

stoic island
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Good luck

little osprey
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Thx lmao

stoic island
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You're welcome

south cliff
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I bought a new case and a new aio and i was wondering what was i should put it i have and option for top or bottom?

obsidian wigeon
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Put it on top

south cliff
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not bottom i mean in the front

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im dumb

obsidian wigeon
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Oh front

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Then yeah, front

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Bottom mounting could cause bubbles, and could wear the aio down more

south cliff
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what conficuration push or pul

obsidian wigeon
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Should be pull

south cliff
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ok

obsidian wigeon
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If you do push, you'll just mess airflow up

south cliff
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ok should i put the tubes up or down

obsidian wigeon
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Up

south cliff
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alr

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im not gonna cap i cheaped out on the case but it was a good price so i got it

little osprey
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what is good 3200cl16 ram that can do a capable overclock

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as cheap as possible

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or does $55 silicon power ram oc fine

south cliff
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end link to it

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send

gleaming socket
earnest olive
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don't expect anything binned for 3200c16 to oc well

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ballistix was the exception but it's discontinued now

gleaming socket
earnest olive
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if it's binned for 3200c16 best case scenario for the kit will probably be like 3800c18

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speaking from experience buying a bunch of cheap crap kits to oc for fun

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keeping 3200 and tightening tcl to c15-14 may be possible depending on die

little osprey
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Heh

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😉

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Think ye could

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Yk

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cough

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you still got any of those oc'd kits

earnest olive
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no i put them in flips

little osprey
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damn

south cliff
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is this case fine for the price?

obsidian wigeon
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Not bad for 60

south cliff
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the only thing bad is the power buttons and stuff are on the side

little osprey
obsidian wigeon
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it's like b or c tier

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afaik

little osprey
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how about this

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msi z390-a pro

obsidian wigeon
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What's the price?

little osprey
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$89

obsidian wigeon
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hm

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meh

little osprey
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+$6 shipping maybe

obsidian wigeon
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it's not that good for such an old platform

little osprey
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people are selling them for over $100 in my area

obsidian wigeon
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if you can get like a 9600k or something for cheap it's gonna be golden

little osprey
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i can camp hardware swap ig

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Is the lancool 205 mesh a good pick

obsidian wigeon
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ye

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it's decent

little osprey
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might do that or meshify c

analog pulsar
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Or hear me out you can get fractal Torrent

little osprey
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Nah i decided im not gonna spend that much

analog pulsar
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Lol

little osprey
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maybe if my boss gives me a bonus ill consider

jagged ember
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tempting

little osprey
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Ideally i'd have something like this

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if i'm tight on money maybe ill go for the 9th gen route

strong raft
little osprey
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Nah, i got a 9400f on me

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was just slightly considering moving it to a new build

potent portal
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Ew
6 cores with no HT

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That's barely minimum spec these days

little osprey
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Yes, so i figured i’d just spring for 12th gen

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i can barely run games rn so i figured i’d upgrade

analog pulsar
fossil cedar
junior crescent
fossil cedar
junior crescent
fossil cedar
junior crescent
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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I mean its fine

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But 750w bettr

fossil cedar
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Could go 850w to future proof tho if going 750w instead imo

analog hearth
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I would just go overkill as always

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just go 850W so you don’t have to worry lol

limber star
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hi lads...

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little issue a1 b1 wouldnt boot with xmp enabled.

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i put the sticks into a2 b2 . it works with xmp . is this a motherboard issue

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or is it common

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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the manual should say use a2 b2 as well

strong raft
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I miss mobos that had the main slots be a1+b1, just an ocd thing. Although, I've had 4dimms in my last 3 pcs Pepe_KEK

earnest olive
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a2 b2 better for cooler clearance

fossil cedar
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I hath been ghost pinged

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timeout @frank stirrup kermit

little osprey
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Lmao

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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L + Ratio + Maidenless + Touch Grace + No Runes + Solaire Better + Beat Margit the Fell Omen + No Seat at the Round Table + No Steed

frank stirrup
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i love this macro

strong raft
wooden quartz
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So I reset to all Original settings now my not working it says this in safe mode no network

wooden quartz
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Please help

little osprey
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Idk, all i can suggest is that you reinstall windows. but I would definitely give a look at the pinned messages in #windows-ios or just ask there since its a windows related question anyways

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Sorry im not much of a windows nerd myself

wooden quartz
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@little osprey thanks i don’t know how to do that lol

little osprey
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do what?

wooden quartz
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Reinstall windows

little osprey
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Win 11 or 10?

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this guide should work for both

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just backup your files

wooden quartz
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Well I tired to reset my computer due to it acting funny now it shows that and won’t load my profile

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So I might need to buy windows

little osprey
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Dont think thats why...

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If you properly reinstalled you shouldnt have any issues

languid crater
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s

little osprey
wooden quartz
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I might need to purchase windows os because I can’t even get into the computer

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But it’s so expensive to buy

little osprey
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You shouldn’t need to bro

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You can use windows for free it’s just unlicensed and shows a box that says unlicensed product on your screen

hearty oracle
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so im not sure where to ask this, but all of a sudden ( as of today) my screen looks super zoomed in (i do not have a graphics card atm). what can be causeing this?

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also not in magnifier mode

obsidian wigeon
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Gotta get driver for igpu

hearty oracle
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ugh this pc has been soo annoying XD worked perfect since i built it till today Xd

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the none xt right

obsidian wigeon
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uh

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Nah that's not the igpu

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Get one for Vega

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Or something relating to ryzen 5000 series

brittle copper
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@earnest olive so I have a GPU oriented question this time

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Which has greater performance per dollar? The 6700 XT or the 6600 XT

obsidian wigeon
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depends on price :v

potent portal
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At MSRP?

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The 6700 XT is roughly 17-37% better (dependent on resolution) and has a msrp that is 32% higher than the 6600 XT

brittle copper
brittle copper
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Let’s say 1440P as a resolution

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Although the differences should scale similarly

potent portal
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1440p has the 6700 XT at about 27% better

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Because more VRAM

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4k has it at the 37% better range

hearty oracle
brittle copper
potent portal
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No? Why would it be?

obsidian wigeon
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6700xt is like

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3060ti perf

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afaik

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So it's accurate

potent portal
unique haven
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Im almost done buying everything i need

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i just need a graphics card

brittle copper
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@potent portal @obsidian wigeon so given that $480 is 26-27% higher than $380

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Are both cards about the same in value?

potent portal
#

If you're doing 1440p or higher roughly the same in value, mostly depending on what games you play. If you're doing 1080p 6600 XT is better value.

subtle anchor
#

I built my pc the other day, and today I just added the last piece- the RTX 3060. I also have some ram coming to upgrade my 16gb to 32 😉 that's fun. Anyway, any idea what I should do with the other i5 6400 gtx 1050 machine? I thought about making it a server of some kind

little osprey
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You could do the server idea, like hosting a game server (minecraft, ark, etc) or a file server for sure

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I use an old computer for a media server hooked up to my tv so i can watch videos i have saved to the hard drive on it

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I use this thing called “Emby”

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i’m pretty sure it’s free because i don’t remember paying for it

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you can just host media on any computer on a network then grab a phone or different computer and play directly from that media server even if you’re not at home

desert gulch
#

If you don't need a server, you could always give it/sell it to a family member or relative who needs a super entry level PC, or just sell it online

little osprey
#

that too

potent portal
orchid ruin
#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kczJbK
Hi everyone, I finally am going to sell my old laptop which will give me enough money for a new pc.
Any thoughts on this build? I'm using it for CPU intensive games and for editing. I am planning on upgrading the graphics card later on when the prices drop and getting another memory of the same stick as well when prices drop.

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Mind you that I am limited by what parts I can choose because I am buying it from a retailer in my country

frank stirrup
orchid ruin
#

TMS, israel

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I can give you their website

fossil cedar
#

You should yes

orchid ruin
fossil cedar
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Also never get 1 stick of ram 🤮

orchid ruin
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here is the website with the build already inside

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I am also going to need 32gb of ram eventually, forgot to mention

fossil cedar
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And what's your budget in shekal?

orchid ruin
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7500-9500

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but cheaper is better

fossil cedar
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Cool 1 sec

orchid ruin
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thank you

fossil cedar
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There you go

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You should be able to see the build properly if not gimma a ping

orchid ruin
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whoa

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thats cheap

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thank you very much

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may I ask, why not ddr5 with the budget that I have?

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to future proof it, ig

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@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
orchid ruin
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I see

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How hard is upgrading a motherboard? lol

fossil cedar
orchid ruin
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Hmm

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I will upgrade later to something more then 3080, when the prices will drop, is it worth it to buy now ddr5 or just upgrade in the future?

fossil cedar
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Ddr5 won't make that much of a difference if that's why you where wondering

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Nah just stick with ddr4 now, could get better drr4 i was trying to keep budgeter

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And if wanting to go 3080 or more then I'd get a better power supply

fossil cedar
orchid ruin
#

okay, thank you very very much

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if I end up getting that (which I prob will) I will be sure to send photos :)

fossil cedar
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No problem

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Looked at faster ram - wasn't worth it for the prices

orchid ruin
#

okay

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may I ask- why the huge jump in price for the ssd?

fossil cedar
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Changed to a 2tb

orchid ruin
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ohhh ight

fossil cedar
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Could do 1tb if you wanted but seemed like you're a 2tb person you know

orchid ruin
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lmao

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yeah Ill prob need that

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

Thats facts

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when i get a job im building a nas

still roostBOT
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TrevorG#8995 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

fossil cedar
#

@young fjord whats your budget and use case?

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and youre in canada?

young fjord
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yes

fossil cedar
#

whats your budget and use case?

young fjord
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$1200cad/$950us yes need a case

wooden quartz
#

Hello so on windows reinstall it never gave me a option to choose architecture will this matter

fossil cedar
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no

wooden quartz
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Okay was unsure because I need the usb for a different pc

young fjord
#

thank you! that looks awesome

fossil cedar
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youre welcome

scenic heath
#

What a good guy

storm isle
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i need pc help

fossil cedar
still roostBOT
storm isle
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what?

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!ask

still roostBOT
fossil cedar
storm isle
#

i have windows 11 and it keeps making the sound like im plugging something in when it start making that noise it makes whatever game im playing drop in fps and ive recently got a BSOD

fossil cedar
#

whats your specs

storm isle
fossil cedar
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hmmm

storm isle
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motherboard: z390 phantom gaming sli/ac

fossil cedar
storm isle
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how?

fossil cedar
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download

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and double click it

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accept admin perms

storm isle
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windows is blocking it

fossil cedar
#

should be able to go around it

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send a screenshot

storm isle
fossil cedar
#

more info

jagged ember
#

windows upset if app try to run stuff as admin

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is normal

storm isle
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It's just loading now

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It's scanning

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said it didnt find anything

fossil cedar
#

I'd try download and run whocrashed then

storm isle
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could you send a link?

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nothing there either @fossil cedar

fossil cedar
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Hmmm

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I'd try update any drivers that aren't up to date then

potent portal
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Update bios too

fossil cedar
#

And you're not running an unstable oc are you?

storm isle
fossil cedar
potent portal
storm isle
storm isle
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none of it worked still beeping

potent portal
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You extracted all the files and ran the program right?

storm isle
#

yes

potent portal
#

Guess it wasn't the bios then

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Next thing to try is unplugging all your USB devices except keyboard and mouse

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If you still have the issue then one of those is probably damaged

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If not then it's one of your other devices or ports

storm isle
#

but its also affecting my GPU

little osprey
#

is buying from 3rd party ok

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i wanna get these 3 things but idk if buying from 3rd party is good

jagged ember
#

do not trust unless good seller ratings

little osprey
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2 of them do

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the case doesnt

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i wanna get an 011 mini but cant find a good deal

strong raft
#

Good cases don't often go much below $100, that's life. Air Mini at $120ish legit is decent. Personally only "3rd party" I'd by from is someone on Ebay or such. Although, stuff "shipped by newegg/amazon" is 1 step better than sent from the seller

little osprey
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its annoying, i need 3 parts but i dont wanna spend close to $400

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or even more in some cases

brittle copper
#

It is NOT good case

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The airflow version is mediocre

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And the non airflow version is just obsolete

vague oracle
#

All GN tests completely disprove you saying it isn’t a good case, it may not be the best case but it is pretty damn good

desert gulch
#

Depends on what "good" is

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"good" is very subjective

little osprey
#

I wanna go for the 011 mini

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I can’t resist lol

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then get it

strong raft
#

Imo the 4000D is super overhyped. Lazis, the Air Mini is great too. Personally want bottom intake fans so there's few cases I like these days.

obsidian wigeon
#

4000D is good, mainly airflow version

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Saying that it's not a good case is.. biased isn't it?

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But it's overhyped in my opinion too

earnest olive
#

it's objectively a good case, but it's only really worth buying when it's on sale for $75

obsidian wigeon
#

ye

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When it's 100, ehh

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Meh

midnight urchin
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i have 011

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i got 3 fans intake on the bottom

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and then 6 exhust

earnest olive
#

you should probably flip 3 to be intakes if you add a graphics card

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otherwise all your intake goes into your graphics card and your cpu can only reuse hot exhaust

little osprey
#

positive pressure >

obsidian wigeon
#

Where did you get the info that it's bad from?

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It's objectively good, just probably not good for your view

rose torrent
obsidian wigeon
#

Hm, fair

little osprey
#

is x79 a good platform @rose torrent

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choose your words carefully.

little osprey
wooden quartz
#

What’s a good power supply for a mobo that’s a 8pin

rose torrent
#

well maybe bronze is too light

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maybe we should use gold as a minimum

desert gulch
#

going by brand or efficiency rating is not great

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this is a great starting place for finding a good psu

obsidian wigeon
#

even evga has meh gold units that is very sensitive

desert gulch
#

yeah

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efficiency ratings are also not always accurate

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Aresgame psus are a great example of not being accurate 80+ ratings

rose torrent
#

evga maybe

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all of the seasonic gold power supplies that have come out have been good

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same with all of corsairs

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and all of super flowers

wooden quartz
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I’m going to be putting in a mobo b450 ds3h v2

obsidian wigeon
#

but going by brand is

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not a good way around it tho

rose torrent
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i know going by brand is risky

wooden quartz
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With a 1070 gpu

desert gulch
rose torrent
#

and i know about the psu tier list

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every one does

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but he wanted a simple quick simple answer

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not a list to sort through

rose torrent
desert gulch
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the GA has issues with high transient draw cards, yet is a evga 80+ gold

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current gen cards have high transient draw

rose torrent
desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
#

i just look for a specific psu for best value at that moment

wooden quartz
#

I’m so lost now 😞 just looking for a psu that’s good and not to pricy

obsidian wigeon
#

a general recc is well, just general

desert gulch
#

lemme see whats available

wooden quartz
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Around 700/750

rose torrent
#

budget comes first

desert gulch
#

if you arent gonna upgrade the gpu a ton, this is a great option if okay with a MIR

rose torrent
desert gulch
#

this would be reccomendation for 700/750

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if youre okay with doing a MIR

desert gulch
#

just threw that out there with the phrase "if you arent gonna upgrade the gpu a ton, this is a great option"

obsidian wigeon
#

some people thinks gpu tgp = peak consumption too

desert gulch
#

if hes sticking with that 1070, that cx550f will no issues whatsoever running it

obsidian wigeon
#

ye

desert gulch
#

im gonna guess hes trying to future proof

wooden quartz
#

Idk if I’ll do much gpu upgrades

wooden quartz
desert gulch
#

future proofing is a hard deal atm

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new psu standards are coming out

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ATX 3.0 mainly

obsidian wigeon
#

^

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and pcie 5.0 connector

desert gulch
#

so who knows how long before that really becomes neccessary

obsidian wigeon
#

the new 16 pin i think

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for hungry gpus

desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
#

oh atx 3.0

desert gulch
#

the connector is just called atx 3.0

obsidian wigeon
#

alright

rose torrent
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man thats gonna suck

wooden quartz
#

Well I’m just for what’s current Lu not like what’s coming next year

desert gulch
#

yeah

rose torrent
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I've only had my AX1600I for a coupe months

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I guess I'll sell it when the new variant comes out

desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
#

depending on current psu they have

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i'd say keep it if it's good enough

desert gulch
#

oh yeah ofc

obsidian wigeon
#

cause psus are gonna change soon

wooden quartz
#

Yeah well anything better then my hp oem psu

obsidian wigeon
#

hp oem psu is okay, just tends to be low in wattage

wooden quartz
#

Yeah it’s a 500 but only has a 4pin and I need a 8 pin for my new mobo b450 ds3h v2

obsidian wigeon
#

you can use adapter cables

wooden quartz
#

You can how

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What would I need

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This is my current power supply

obsidian wigeon
#

well you have to buy one

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but easiest way i guess is to get whole new psu

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with not too high wattage to save money for now

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that 550w one is a good recc

tiny pelican
#

Hello anyone here?

fossil cedar
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Yeah what's up

little osprey
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Ye wassup bro

flint sapphire
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I’m not here

wooden quartz
little osprey
#

Can you look at the cables

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and look if one of them has a connector with 8 pins on it

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then you will know if there is an 8 pin connector

potent portal
#

Specifically one that has 4+4 and not 6+2

wooden quartz
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Yeah I only see 4pin then the 6+2 Just making sure I wasn’t overlooking it

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New power supply it is I guess

potent portal
#

You can run using just the 4 pin you know

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If you use a processor that requires more power then the mobo will just power limit it

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But if you're using a 65W processor you won't come near that limit

wooden quartz
#

I’m just using a Ryzen 5 3600

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3500*

potent portal
#

Yeah 4 is plenty for that, even if you upgraded to 5600X

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8 is for 105W processors, then there's 8+4 for extreme overclocking

wooden quartz
#

Oh nice 500w 80 sires psu is Plenty with a 1070 GPu

little osprey
#

If I have an ibuypower prebuilt rn and it has no problems would it be worth it to upgrade its weaknesses like the case,psu, and cooler now or should I wait until something happens and it’s a necessity to upgrade

potent portal
#

Depends on your available money and your specific needs

little osprey
#

The games aren’t too intensive but some are

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And I play VR

potent portal
#

Most of the time the biggest weaknesses for a prebuilt are the PSU and memory. What model PSU did you get and what memory?

little osprey
#

And 16gb of ram at 3200

potent portal
#

Which model exactly? There's a few gold rated power supplies that straight up explode

little osprey
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Let me see

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I’ll get a pic of my specs like exactly

potent portal
#

And did you at least get 2 sticks of ram? Or did they shaft you with 1?

little osprey
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2

potent portal
#

Ok not too bad then

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But Ryzen likes 3600 because it allows faster infinity fabric. You might be able to overclock though.

little osprey
potent portal
#

A tad overpriced but not too bad

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How's your CPU temps?

little osprey
#

Abt to get into my house

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I can run a stress test

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And see how my temps are

potent portal
#

Prime95 is the cooling test of choice, max heat load. A more realistic test would be along the lines of OCCT Linpack

little osprey
#

Do you have a link

potent portal
little osprey
#

running it rn

little osprey
potent portal
#

You can typically find the max temps after about 15-20 minutes

little osprey
#

ohh

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i stopped it lol

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im gonna restart it and run it for 15 min

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and take a screenshot of the results

potent portal
#

If you have hwinfo that'll have more useful data

little osprey
#

ok

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let u know in 15

little osprey
#

@potent portal

potent portal
#

That's pretty close to the throttle point at 87C, maybe a better cooler would be in order. 120mm AIO is a meme, there's literally air coolers that completely crush them.

little osprey
#

yea

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i was also thinking a new case

#

idk abt psu, you tell me

#

i wanna get a lian li 011 mini ( i love it too much to not get it) and a msi mag 240mm cooler

potent portal
#

PSU is probably ok, even if it's a C tier unit, since your parts don't use all that much power

little osprey
potent portal
#

That would be a decent upgrade, but I'd suggest the arctic liquid freezer 2

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It's better and quieter

little osprey
#

what abt ek or lian li

potent portal
#

The standard EK-AIO or the Galahad would be good options too, very strong performers

little osprey
#

should i get a lian li o11 mini or air

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regular looks better

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but air will be better

potent portal
#

Technically yes but I doubt it'll matter unless you plan to upgrade the GPU later to a 3080 or something

little osprey
#

i would like to

potent portal
#

Then yes the air is strongly advised

little osprey
#

might go to mc rn

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let me see the other coolers they have tho

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for $30 more i can get a 360

earnest olive
#

oh boy, i had fun with a really similar cyberpower prebuilt

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3700x, 120mm aio, 3000c16 ram

little osprey
earnest olive
#

the 120mm aio was actually not bad

little osprey
#

mine is

earnest olive
#

i oced the 3000c16 ram to 3733c18

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cleaned the cat hair from the previous owner out of the aio

little osprey
#

my pc gets rly hot

earnest olive
#

swapped the graphics card

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and then sold it for a cool $750 profit

little osprey
#

im not planning to do that tho

earnest olive
#

3700x is pretty easy to cool

little osprey
#

i wanna keep it and just build it up

earnest olive
#

the cyberpower 120mm aio was holding like 81C in prime95

#

maybe you should try repasting it

#

perhaps factory paste job wasn't good

#

also clean out your pc if you haven't already

little osprey
#

i did that before

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i did clean it

earnest olive
#

dust and dirt buildup can have a large impact on temps

#

did you take the fan off of the radiator and clean between?

little osprey
#

yep

earnest olive
#

let me show you what that aio looked like when i got it

little osprey
#

k

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i might as well just upgrade and future proof

earnest olive
little osprey
#

lmao

earnest olive
#

and i'd like to add, 81C in prime95 was before any cleaning

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i tested prime95 in starbucks while i was buying it

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is your 3700x at default settings right now?

little osprey
#

yep

earnest olive
#

you can definitely try undervolting rather than spending money on a new cooler

little osprey
#

id rather have a new cooler that keeps my cpu nice and cool without sacrificing performance

earnest olive
#

i should add that this cyberpower had the 120mm aio in push/pull configuration (1 fan on each side of the radiator), not sure if ibuypower does that

earnest olive
little osprey
#

no

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they dont

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so mine is worse

earnest olive
#

you should undervolt ryzen cpus regardless of cooler

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i had an undervolt running on a 3600x with a 360mm aio

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and now my 5800x is undervolted too

little osprey
#

im still prolly gonna buy the cooler, id rather just have that plus undervolting

earnest olive
#

i mean if you just wanna buy new stuff feel free, i'm just recommending some things if you want to save some money

little osprey
#

this one is so loud and obnoxious

little osprey
earnest olive
#

i was really surprised how well the cyberpower held up

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when i first saw the picture on the listing i thought i would have to recase it

little osprey
#

mine needs a recase

earnest olive
#

I was like "where is the air intake?"

little osprey
#

the only way air gets in is through two thin gaps at the front

earnest olive
#

turns out the answer is

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air intakes are hidden on the top and bottom of the front panel lol

little osprey
#

just ibuypower

earnest olive
#

definitely not the best case ever but better than i was expecting

little osprey
#

mine is bad and attracts so much dust

earnest olive
#

ended up selling it in the original case after a good clean

little osprey
#

for no reason

earnest olive
#

do you run an air purifier in your room?

little osprey
#

no

earnest olive
#

one of the best purchases i've made

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i own a cat

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went from cleaning pc every 2 days to every 2 months

little osprey
#

nope i do not own a cat

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my doggy doesnt shed

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and he barely is ever in my room

earnest olive
#

i figured if dust gets into my pc then it's also getting into my lungs

little osprey
#

true

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k, ima go give my pc a nice clean and then prolly gonna go to microcenter

earnest olive
#

wonder how your temps would be if you made your aio push/pull as well

#

3700x can generally be overclocked to the limit on the stock cooler no problems

wooden quartz
#

Hey on the mobo do all the screw holes need a screw

potent portal
#

Depends on the case

wooden quartz
potent portal
#

Should be fine without, just be careful when pulling on the 24 pin connector

little osprey
#

Should I just swap out my case and run the cooler for a little more @potent portal @earnest olive

earnest olive
#

you can definitely try it

potent portal
#

If you want to save some money for now sure, a better case would help a bit. Maybe you'll get some more boosting out of the CPU before it throttles.

earnest olive
#

if you're going to buy the o11 air mini

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maybe you can try running the aio in push/pull with the included rear exhaust fan

little osprey
earnest olive
#

that plus better case airflow should help temps already

earnest olive
potent portal
#

Fair enough

earnest olive
#

@little osprey also check your bios and see what your pump speed is

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if your pump speed is using a curve that doesn't let it hit 100% under load, then you could get some gains there

little osprey
#

So what would you guys say I should do right now

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Only case

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Or case and cooler

earnest olive
#

doesn't hurt to just do case first

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see if they have any radiator fan screws at microcenter, you'll need them if you want to try push/pull

little osprey
#

Ok

earnest olive
#

these long bois

little osprey
#

Sheeeesh

earnest olive
#

if your microcenter doesn't have them, you can buy them online

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btw, AIOs have a limited lifespan (the pump), so if your current one ends up being sufficient, i wouldn't buy a new one for "futureproofing", better buy a new one when you buy a new cpu

midnight urchin
#

@terse tiger what vertical Gpu mount did u use

terse tiger
#

Phanteks

tardy knoll
#

Wow so I think my new ABS just totally fried itself.

#

I was upstairs, came back down to a breaker tripped... We have a storm and tornado warnings going on so idk.

And my PC won't come back on and made a really bad noise when I hit the power button

formal girder
#

Sounds like the PSU might have shorted possibly

tardy knoll
#

I guess idk. It's totally freaking dead.

#

I don't even know what the hell happened I was gone for 10 minutes fixing dinner and had been watching Halo on Amazon website like wth ..

#

The rest of the house never lost power something tripped just the one breaker

jagged ember
#

rip

#

is why I got ups

stoic island
#

Might want to blame PSU and see if PSU replacement can do something for you

tardy knoll
jagged ember
#

bro

tardy knoll
#

Freaking 2,000$ setup didn't last 3 months

jagged ember
#

actually a big oof