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"Room for up to six 120mm fans & supports up to 240mm radiators in the top and front"
Only supports 240mm aios :(
Prolly can't top mount a lf2 either
Cause thicc
Could just go 240mm lf2
Even if it was a 240
Yeah prolly have to front mount it tho
Maybe
@icy thunder https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqkTwc this is what you're looking at, no guarantee of case quality, possibly not being able to top mount and having to front mount aio, although it should fit
Perhaps top aio then fans above on outside of case
Oh nice
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8p9WGL this then 
What was in there before
team mp33
Nothing just 3tb of ssd seemed like a bit much, can always add more if they need it, and it's just higher quality drive
Kc2500 is a 2262EN drive, a bit better than e13t on mp33, basically equivalent to e12
the 1tb was meant for windows and other random stuff while the 2tb was meant to hold all the games
No point just have on 1 drive, bigger drive for main the better imo
If you need more than 2tb of space for games, put it on a HDD, if you need less, just get a 2tb SSD
Boot drive can have a lot more than just windows
As main drive will fill up with things that you cant put on other drive/if not paying attention to install c will be default
for games and other stuff
Just because you have 500gb of games on the boot drive doesn't mean you'll boot slower
2tb is plenty of most, if they need more, they can add a 2tb hdd for 50$
then a normal ssd for windows and everything else
There's times where it's good to clear out the storage
Either you have a bunch of AAA open world games or there's probably some things you don't need any more
both
If you open windows run and type %temp% then cntrl A you'll and press delete then empty recycle bin, i bet you'll have a good bit of storage in there that you can free up btw
And/or use windirstat and see what's being taken up by what, helps with cleaning out what you don't need
I have a friend who didn't even realize they had like 80gb worth of Skyrim mods
doing that cleared like 23gb
alright well if that pc part picker list is all good then thank you very much
i really appreciate it
Np
I got the gpu and when I booted into windows there were a bunch of blue pixels and I updated driver and when I booted back up there was no blue lines but now it just goes to a black screen
It's a 1660
I'm building a server with a pre-assembled supermicro/threatdripper pro board. It started as a NAS project, but now I want to use it to virtualize ubuntu and windows for general use, and use my current pc for full time native windows gaming. I need to get a graphics card for the new fileserver/desktop virtualization build, and I think I should get something cheap and AMD based. What should I get?
I think 'cheap' is really all you should worry about for that
do you have onboard gpu?
can you plug into the motherboard and get a picture with igpu?
Reseating may help
and a ddu bet there are amd driver lurking in there lol
k
i got it to detect but after it lost connectection to the dp and then it started ding it agian
and i have been doing the same thing
did you/can you try the hdmi port?
i had it connected to my second monitor
and it just shut off 2 after loosing connection
bad gpu?
and as @stoic island said make sure the gpu is seated all the way in the slot
it is
possibly but we aren't there yet
alr
power cables secure on the gpu and in the powersupply?
btw it started happening when my friend was playing a game
yeah
it just shut off and started to do the boot thing
how old is it?
like 1-2 years
also i replaced themal paste on it
nothing like that has ever happened
that was going to be my next suggestion
Reseating is always nice if the contact is bad for whatever reason, as in, maybe some dust got on the gold contacts
i put in in so many diffrent times lol
when you replaced paste did you make sure all pads lined up and everything got plugged back in?
i dont think there was any themal pads
its a dell oem one
when it got deteced it was at 32 degress
did it look similar to this
yes
sure cant hurt
k give me a sec
Spent $300 on a referbished 1650 π₯²
while you got it out let me see the bottom
pins that arent washed out by the light look ok
no obvious issues that i can see pins look fine no burnt spots and caps look fine
Could i try and "bake" it
you could but I have yet to see that succesfully work
COuld it break it even more?
depends on how careful you are but yes it could
do you have another 16x slot or an 8x slot on the mobo
yes
I would try that if you havent already
well i know that its not the slot becaseu i have my rx 570 in it rn
and it can view windows prior to drivers being installed correct?
like if you ddu-ed it now and put the 1660 in it would work up until you install drivers
and by work I mean vga graphics not able to do much
so if you ddu and take the 570 out and put the 1660 in just black screen nothing?
or have you not ddu-ed and then put the 1660 in yet
i have ddued the rx 570 and then put the 1660 in
kk
just making sure nvidia and amd drivers really dont play nice together had to be sure of the order
alr
what psu wattage?
650
I am leaning towards bricked gpu unfortunately
i need help
heat, weld gave way, capacitor is busted but small enough we cant tell something along those lines
so i have an ASRock B560m Pro4 motherboard and its not detecting my wd sn550 blue and idk what to do
should i keep trying to fix it or should i just let it be?
I would keep trying things but yeah it could be fruitless
is it showing up in bios if you go to bootable drives?
try diffrent m.2 slot
idk what that is
your mobo has 2
could be this too depending on what lanes the mobo allows for that slot
it also says in their page that nvme ssd's are boot disks or something
one of the easiest things you could do is try what @south cliff suggested and try the other m.2 slot on your motherboard as there are 2
the one that says ultra?
not sure but there are only 2 places it can go
if you have the motherboard manual it should explain which slots can be used under which conditions
if it doesnt work should i get an external one?
no no no we can get it to work
but if it doesnt
it will
worst thing we will have to do is initialize the drive in command prompt which will be fun since you dont know what bios is but thats ok
top slot is gen 4 lanes straight to cpu, and 10th gen doesnt have gen 4
Also is a 1660 better than a rx 570?
yes
By alot or just somE?
25-30% more performance
have to remember a 1660 is still 2000 gen card like 2060
But the only downside is very barbones pcb and cooler
and no rtx
ehh rtx is nice but i wouldnt use it
it kind of can now through software anyway
just doesnt have dedicated hardware on the card
I like your PFP
hey thanks
i happen to have overclocked and benched all three of those cards personally
ok so i should put it in the slot without the heatsink?
so here you go
rx 570: 4,315
gtx 1660: 5,822
rtx 2060: 8,328
i didnt know the 1660 was that good
ye
meh pretty crap, my 5700xt does better stock
i feel like people underestimate the 2060
okkkk
don't make me bench my 5700xt nitro+ at 330W
i only go against crappy nvidias
not mobile gpus or 3080 tho
lol
my rx 570 only does like 80-100 watts
okay wait i got one
is this one crappy enough
how do you have so many gpus?
i am gpu man
i see now
oh what hashrate is a 5700xt?
is this one crappy enough
yeah its crap
how about this one
hold on
why
i'm about to destroy you with the ultimate flex
o?
LEGENDARY
sheeeeeesh
very
it's a world record technically
my friiend is getting a laptop 3070
this is my best 16 series result lol
i sure hope any 5700xt beats it
lol
why do yo hate 16 series?
whered i say i hate them? lol
i remember when my main rig was running this combo
well not hate them but dislike them
sheeesh
i dont dislike them lol
i am able to beat them in a benchmark tho
well alot of people can
it workedddd
i miss my b450 tomahawk max π
tysm
r/amd's favorite board for pushing 1.8v through a ryzen 5 3600
thats good to hear
lol
it gave me a really bad headache
yeah dont get to frustrated
one time i had 6 brand new parts arrive dead on arrival for a build
it was not a fun time troubleshooting which parts were bad and which were good
lol how log did it take?
it took 12 hours and one finger injury
i was rushing bc i was stressed and accidentally cut myself on a heatsink fin
quit pc building for a few months after that one
should i try a diffrent driver istead of the latest one?
ong tho thank you
yeah but my gpu is acting up
my 3080 lost more than 50% of its performance on driver 496.98
have you checked for display related errors in event viewer?
whats that
go to administrative events under custom views
and don't freak out because having thousands of errors or warnings is normal
most of them are completely benign
just look for recent display or nvlddmkm errors
im just going to see if another driver works
Ok im in bios π π
Ok its downloading it ππ lets go
Hopefully that solves the problem
I have faith
in you not amd or their quality assurance team
@worthy vector glad your ssd is good to go
many are yes
I got a 1 tb ssd wd blue
where can i find one thats available in cad (canadian dollars)
9 percent more to go
like do you know any websites?
@worthy vector $15 US is a normal price and make sure the seller has multiple positive reviews.
can someone send me the appropriate link to QuickSync for Intel? I cant find the official download
@worthy vector keysoff
its not really something you download its in intels drivers
this will tell you how to find it if you have it and enable it
the water mark gets real annoying eventually
doing our part by low key not supporting piracy by only giving the names not the links lol
thats true someone paid for those keys at one point in time
Ok so i think the problem is the mouse
other mouse not disconnecting?
yeah there was a lot of reddit talk about that cord having issues on that mouse specifically
Wait no it works not
But i have this problem also for awhile
I know this will sound dumb but did you update the driver?
that link is to your latest driver@visual tundra
I wish there was a pump and reservoir that actually looked good
Honestly the biggest reason why I have not done custom water cooling yet, i hate how a res looks inside the case
Corsair is meh for their custom loop parts, high price for meh quality
Thatβs why most use distribution plates now
So here's a weird one. My board has an RGB fan controller box. It has three inputs, RGB, power and USB. I cannot tell you where the USB is supposed to plug in from. There is a type C header on the board, but the fan controller is micro.
..?
Check along the bottom of the board for usb 3.0/2.0 headers if that's what you're looking for
Probably goes to the usb 2.0 header, usually on the bottom of the board
sometimes along the right side
If its a thick plug that's blue typically, its 3.0, if not and smaller, usb 2.0
Uh... I don't see that. I'm trying to find the wire.
3.0 header looks like left, 2.0 connector looks like right
Are there any distribution plates that are solid black? Most of them are transparent
Just to check, how do you know it's usb?
@fossil cedar you there?
Check your dms.
I saw a 6500xt for 230$ should I upgrade my sisters 970 with it?
From @turbid vector
yay discord decided to flip it
anyways looks like external usb for some reason
well, might just be usb-c
So its not round? bit hard to tell in the photo there
I'm thinking the USB can be skipped, for it might be for an external controller.
Not round.
maybe usb mini-a
Nope never did that
but it feels kinda weird it doesn't use an internal usb connector considering its supposed to be inside the case
Yeah really. I'd share more photos if it wasn't complicated.
does anyone here have experience with aorus mobos?
oof u can buy a converter for the plug tho
should be the only thing different?
120v VS 240v.
oh yikes, well you can also invert that but
Too much work
lol
youβre better off returning it like you plan
does anyone know of any cpu blocks with a screen like nzxt x72 aio?
for 1700 socket
like x72 in the sense that itβs customizable
Ask your question
Use it
Dont matter
Should run off 120v line
120v psus have trouble with 240v
Not the other way around
im having issues trying to start the system im building for a family member its seem that everything should be plugged in and im just getting a blink of purple from my mobo without any other indication of it getting any power. Its a Z590 aouros ax mobo and an evga gold 850 and im narrowing it down to something is wrong with either of those
Cpu and gpu?
no lights on those at all
What cpu and gpu
i had everything installed but i took out everything but the ssd and the cpu and still nothin
ohhhh
10700k and 2080ti
Ram?
aouros pro ax, corsair 2x16 3200 cas 18, evga 850 80+ gold
and a cosair h60 for cooling (thats all best buy had dont judge me)
Also u sure ur front pannel connectors are proper?
oh yea but like im not even getting the change to test anything
it boops purple and thats it pretty much no other responses
Cleared cmos?
yep first thing i tried
im just trying to find something before i tear down my rig im on now just to test parts
how do i fix my blue tooth thing
ive removed the gpu already
and i have verified the gpu works in a system a week ago
can you double check the front pannel connectors for me?
depends on whats wrong with it
it is strange it gave me 2 reset switches without a power one on this case
case is a 465x btw
maybe they mislabeled them imma try using it in a power switch spot
alright time to try that
sure
Going to return this either way. I'm likely to at some point in the future make the mistake of plugging it into a 120v outlet and blowing it.
bruh
its fine with 240V
how is a lower output voltage outlet gonna blow it up
if you input more than 240w then it could blow up
below that ur fine
and im pretty sure psus are universal
they all be 240W
lower voltage is how my 24pin cable melted
the psu might be fine and might have 120v/240v switching modes
but it's wrong to assume lower voltage is always safe
strange
lower voltage means more amps required for the same power which can cause some unfun things if something can't handle that many amps
again not commenting on the psu because i don't know without seeing it
but in general lower voltage is not safe
thats fair
i forgor about dis
At 240v, the psu lists 9a.
So better to get the right model. There is no volt switch either.
roblox servers suck
no no like
i never had this ping
on a laptop
i just built a pc
and like
i dont understand this
Well is the pc using ethernet?
Maybe you need to update the adapter drivers
how do i do that
it crashes when i increase my graphics quality
wdym
nope ping
uh how
Ping shouldnβt affect graphics preformance
It should be under the network adapter section
they are.. 120-240v
@gritty spruce did you fix it?
Idk I updated some things in the settings then restarted
Then i went to nvidia and changed the hz
And it worked
It was at 60 hz bruh π
roblox dont go over 60 anyway
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-b550-gaming-plus-socket-am4-usb-c-gen-2-amd-atx-gaming-motherboard-pcie-gen-4-black/6424047.p?skuId=6424047 Iβm having a hard time figuring this out but does this mother board support wifi or would I have to get a wifi adapter
If it doesnβt Iβll a different one and get a wifi card adapter (?)
no wifi
most of the time if it has wifi it will say in the name
or ax
yes that was the longest build ive ever done xD
Is the Asus prime Z590-P a good motherboard for an intel icore5 processor
I plan on upgrading in the future n stuff and I have a small budget
yes thats good
Sweet, thanks!
Not really
Z590s are overkill for i5s
A b560 would make more sense
Give me a sec
just so you know its an matx board meaning its really small
For much better performance
Ohhh
why did you send this board if you're doing intel?
thats am4 lol
i have experience with matx myself, it's not actually that small
I was askingβ¦ then I realized itβs am4
im using the b560m pro vdh wifi, msi
its nice
and cheap
besides i don't think they need atx anyway
Thatβs why I mentioned the Z590
Aye nice
Another decent board
and it has wifi
yeah
:ooo ohh what was the price range for it
i only use the bluetooth tbh tho
you could go with that if you dont wanna buy a wifi card
mine was 99 gbp but idk what it is in usd
mhm
119 on amazon rn
same on newegg
i wouldnt copy everything i did
since i cheaped out on case
but like
theres a start
What gpu?
Ayo that cooler does look really nice
ill send a pic of my pc 1 sec
in its old case without the fans/extensions
It's not unless you put it into a decent sized case
I had my hopes on a 3050 but Iβm doubting Iβll get it π Iβm justβ¦ going to try and get it during a drop, I was gonna get better gpu some other time
3050 pretty poopy water ngl
yeah i was thinking that
Yea π but this is my first pc and Iβm going to upgrade later on
the box to cover cables π€―
If you like white stuff
Only for a picture lmao
nah it was to hold the gpu xd
oh lol
its still in the pc rn
well but still atx is just bigger really, matx boards has enough features
OH
white builds just look nice
the strix kinda heavy ngl
but tbh some components cost more when theyre white
White builds
you mean all?
xd
white fee
yeah pretty much
This deepcool white colour is quite cheap
Ohhhhhh
cant exactly ramp up the price on a $20 cooler xd
Iβm going all black for my pc
that cooler is cheap
same
but white versions of something always costs more
just waiting on the case now
or almost always
It looks hella expensive in real life
Yeahh
It's keeps this 10400 under 60degrees always
Black just looks sleeker imo
mine keeps my 11400 under 58c i think? on prime 95 all core
it was 58 or 60
i forgot
White mobos are lot expensive then black ones I will agree on that
Oki yeah Iβll get motherboard etc start of next month
Wait white mobos exist?
I did⦠not know that
Thatβs unsettling
not exactly white
They do
n7 white
their pcb's aren't white
gig visions
just the cover really
^
There is also strix white from Asus
It β99@:!@8@
Wait happened to my keyboadd
i dont think any mobo has a white pcb
from my knowledge
spells knowledge wrong
LMFAO
Same I just said it looks white
Iβm looking at the white mobos and itβs kinda like looking at a chicken without feathers
only msi did it yeah
Itβs like discord light mode
it does
Ayeeeee
Is it a custom
kinda
π³yooooo! Nice
See you later π
I wanna customize a keyboard in the future
Maybe in the fall
Itβs fun
Just brought my cpu this morning, feeling nice
Iβm bidding on a 10850k itβs a used chip but the price on it is such a steal. Iβm dreading the purchase of the GPU for my build.. saving that for last
10850k is good
I bought the Lian Li O11 Air mid ATX .. they were sold out everywhere but then I found one on a site that seemed pretty legit. We will see tho lol
What price?
It's not worth as much anymore because of 12th gen
$210
Okay that's nice
Since Sata power cables have multiple male outputs can I use one cable for two ssd or should I use another one for my second ssd?
You can use all of them on the same cable
Thanks :)
Np
if no one minds can anyoe tell me a good gaming mouse with 2 sidebuttons under 60 bucks but around like 188g weight
I used this one for a while before but its wired: https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g502-hero-gaming-mouse.910-005469.html
Theres this one as well: https://www.razer.com/ca-en/gaming-mice/razer-basilisk-x-hyperspeed/RZ01-03150100-R3U1 (I think its cheaper on amazon or best buy)
Logitech G502 HERO high performance gaming mouse. Featuring HERO, our best sensor, 11 programmable buttons, LIGHTSYNC RGB technology & tunable weight.
Ive used steelseries as well but wasnt too big of a fan of it. the Rival 3 I think?
Pago Iβm stupid. The sata power cables that came with my prebuilt donβt fit my HDD, I just need to go out and buy a female to male adapter right?
Iβm just too frustrated to think so Iβm askin
Nope they're all the same
Then why wonβt it fit π€£
Make sure you're not trying to put it in the sata data port instead of sata power
Iβm sure
There's no proprietary hard drives so
is the ryzen 7 5800x worth it?
not atm
Not unless you have an empty am4 board waiting for it
5800x 3d is coming soon, would be worth if you have an am4 board
5800x3d>5800x
itβs just a wait until spring
still on zen 3, yet itβll most likely be better than the 5950x
true
it has half the cores
Performance wise, it should be better than the 12900k
but we donβt necessarily know when 13th gen is gonna release
as well
damn
hard to make any conclusions about the 5800x3d
there was a significant clock speed sacrifice made to add that cache
will probably not be better than the 5800x in everything
I haven't been on here in a long while, but I was hoping I could get some help and advice finishing up a PC build
I have what I already bought on pcpartpicker, but could use some help with the main things: CPU GPU and Motherboard
Yea post the pcpp link
k
I haven't been up-to-date on GPU and motherboards, so I thought one of you guys who've been doing this more could help out
I got a remaining budget of 1,200 sum; and I don't need headphones or a keyboard, but I have monitors written down that I could get a second opinion on
ok so 1200 for all those parts youre missing?
yuss and i've got 2-3 monitors I was looking at I just want to know what you think is recommended.
The AOC 24G2, the GigabyteG24F, or any suggesstions
I've seen people recommending the AOC a while back but it was initially unavailable in my area at the time
idk much about monitors, so you can ask those in the #old-monitors-and-tv channel

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Chillin the 1440 Gigabyte monitor?
this is non modular right?
What is that video on the amazon page 
For $75ish there's quite a few psu options. By time I'm home on pc someone else will probably help a lot. Lol. Ram is decent, but 3600c16 of some sort is good (ballistix). Prices and sales vary a lot. Cpu+ mobo can be 12400(F) & msi pro z690-A or cpu can be 12700(F) for $120ish more. (Mainly if doing lots of stuff needing the extra cores on the i7)
doesnt seem that mobo is on pcpp unless im dumb and cant find it
Perhaps scratch the bitfenix. Could deffo get a good modular corsair or evga. 
could also go with an ssd for a boot drive
Oh my bad. Already have that. Gpu market is wack, but 12gen Intel now is a pretty easy choice. Mobo is the toughy. B660 mobos aren't too common or cheap overall
*Frantically jotting notes while the tech ppl do their magic
is the seagate the only drive you have?
Yeah Mig do you have an ssd at all. Huge difference as boot drive. Could do a semi cheap 500GB as boot like the SN550/570, mp33, gotta check a few others for pricing.
could even go for an nvme if you have the budget
its the only one I have bought and in my house rn, if something else is suggested ill just use it on another build for family's computer
Tbh nvme is basically cheaper overall than sata drives, if that's what you meant. Sata ssds, not sata hdds of course. (I mean normal older "pcie 3" ones"
you can still use that drive as a place for games or other stuff. the only reason we suggest an ssd as a boot drive for windows is that itll just load faster and be more crisp
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xpYLrH/crucial-p1-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500p1ssd8 this is the SSD that was suggested to me a long time ago not sure if its still good for the current build
Not good any more for the budget market, mp33 tends to be cheaper
Sales changed, but for example a couple weeks ago i got the SN550 for $43 
both are fine but 33 is a little cheaper
Not on sale any more but 83$ for 1tb mp33
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XHMBQK3
TEAMGROUP MP33 M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive uses a high-speed PCIe Gen3 x4 interface and complies with the NVMe 1.3 standard. With 3D NAND flash memory, the transfer speed is 3 times faster than SATA III. Suitable for players who have needs in speed, and it is the top choice when it comes to upgrad...
Was 70$ yesterday
might as well go for the 34 1tb for 90??
It is what it is
I wouldn't worry about, especially if they're used to hdds mostly.
whats hdds real quick?
hard drive
Ssd solid state drive, no moving parts just memory chips basically
mk
yeah mk. so the seagate is fine as it is, but I need an ssd the mp34 or the mp33
correct?
yeah it would be best to have one as a boot drive
alright im writing it down
I'd go mp33. Sequential speeds that are listed will be plenty, and then some. Later on you get a newer better nvme ssd & it'll be a bigger upgrade, possibly (general use sequential isn't really an issue, latency & "random" specs are). 970 evo Plus & SK Hynix P31 are currently 2 examples maybe if you want to look those up sometime.
ok we'll keep it at mp33. youre confusing the man with the tech language lol
not completely
i know EVERYTHING has to have a model x43PQR-yadayada
The main components and specs I understand*, just get thrown off when every new word comes in
basically, don't trust advertisement
good rule of thumb for everything tbh
For example, sure, it might advertise 3000mb/s seq, but you're never really going to use that, and rnd performance might fall far behind other drives that also advertise 3000mb/s seq
Yeah I look up people who have it and hands-on did testing or review without sponsor
So what I got rn is: for ssd get the mp33 -it'll be enough and then some until a later upgrade. Mobo in general are everywhere rn, but chillin suggested the MSI PRO Z690
tom's hardware and techpowerup will be your main sources
get the ddr4 varient and get ddr4 ram for now
I5-12400, F model would be no iGpu
Pro 690-A is a good pick at $220ish. Obviously you can go B660 instead (for cheaper). 12gen is pretty new so mobos are sort of limited & prices are higher than 10/11gen stuff
i5 12400f right?
12400 no suffix ideally
its only going to save 40$ so meh
waiting for cheaper b660 boards atm
where's dat b660m pro vdh wifi >:P
cheapest msi i saw was 140 right now
I'm waiting for a decent 120-140$ b660 board
wait no it was asus
Do you already get the Z vs B mobo thing? Basically Z690 to overclock a "K" cpu, but unneeded with the 12400 for instance. Features vary per mobo either way.
b660 dont support overclocking iirc
except weird niche cases that people are currently messing around with
Exactly, but can adjust the turbo settings up a bit & cpu power limit sometimes, if we cared to jack up overall wattage also. I'm thinking Mig won't be worried about that (yet) 
I wouldn't mind if I had to
Modern turbo/boosting does a lot by itself. Power Efficiency goes way down as the PL/wattage goes up. A bit of "experimenting" is common.
don't have to and probably shouldn't mess with it if you want stability
so this is what we've suggested as of now, including monitor. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2VwcC6
only thing missing is the gpu
I got all that written down and I still got a modest chonk for that. would you like me to make a seperate list with the new parts in it?
sure
oh and you guys said my Cx550M is fine as it is?? or would it mess with the performance and i need a slightly bigger one?
That 550 is probably plenty for the 12 gen & a "normal" gpu.
For example a gtx 970 might peak around 170w, if that. Seems like a "decent" psu overall.
And the BitFenix 80plus cooler?
would want a second opinion on this one tho
idk much about psu's as well
If I go over for the batt or have to get a bigger one, I can use the one I got for another build prolly
if it affects the whole thing i mean
Probably can skip a bitfenix in this case. Current psu is fine depending on gpu. You can always scout deals then just do new psu if you get a gpu above a certain wattage.
yeah like chillin said as long as the gpu is within wattage range then no need to switch it out
MIR is meh but RMx good in general, practically equivalent to Bitfenix options though
Mr1111 with the 411 
Wot
411 = info
Huh
Nvrmind
. Tried to say it before you did π
. My personal humor attemp = crap
naw i got itπ
almost done moving stuff in pcpp, cant find how you got the mobo doesnt show up on the catalogue
make a custom part, should be toward the bottom of the list
ill just write that down as a thing I could upgrade to later
oh mk
i'm lookin
I miiight actually. unless there's some tech day coming out I don't know of. I got some of my parts on a 4th july sale, but idonthinkimwaitingthatlongtbh
I forget but theres a button some where to add a component, perhaps hit the mobo button then see if you can just type in a name and/or price. Pcpp isnt working for me currently. Spotty service at the post office
yeah me neither I searched the thing with F couldnt find nothing
what are you looking for?
where to add custom part for mobo
OH i was on the search catalogue
its in now
and add the price of the mobo so it adds up to the list
WOW that was so much easier to find when im on the right page
alright so I got everything but the GPU in
one sec:
ok so im guessing this will be used as a casual gaming pc?
Indeed. My current laptop and house PC does not have enough juice to play games with my friends
they all got xboxes
i dont. but i can get a PC and crossplay while having it for college or my own projects
I am getting into music theory, and want to learn about coding
so nothing too demanding
In terms of hardcore performance? not really. if it can stream (which I think the 6-core is capable of) or load moderately big games than yeah
I like what you guys did so far; I've been trying real hard to learn about this stuff since Base factory brand models are kinda Ptttttt
Good news for me, just dropped case at ups to return & got the refund already 
"Now *heheh.. This is EPIC."
had you been waiting a long time to do that? or was it quicker than you thought
Started return a day or so ago, but I didn't expect the refund 1 hr after giving to ups. Case is large item so next time that'll be the last part I buy, and waiting on a certain price. For a 6c, good streaming but certain Nvidia gpus would help out w/ their* nvenc chip (nvidia encoding might be what it stands for).
Is there a specific line of Nvidia GPUs I should look at?
Because I might just have to get the motherboard as soon as it is available if it comes and goes
Idk how much the 20 series nvenc was an upgrade so perhaps I'll say at least 10/16 series, overall quite an upgrade from the 900 series. However, the gtx 980 is around 1060 performance for example. Tbh Basically the worst time to buy a gpu in the past few years lol. This is when Ebay, facebook MP, craigslist, reddit hardwareswap is helpful
Swap out the PSU and maybe change the case
Anything this gen
12gen mobos will only get more common & bit cheaper huh
Well, 3050ti is an unknown in terms of how good it actually is, and 6500xt is crap, but other than that, anything from this gen will do
I can def do the PSU up to the 650W with that sale. But for the case I dont remember if it has to be a certain type or model
Do Bitfenix formula gold for a good relatively cheap PSU
Case, prob want to do smth more like a p360a or p400a
Fans, generally air blows towards the frame
So it's scooping the air as opposed to slicing it?
Perhaps. Basically it'll blow towards the floor the way you have it
Yeah. Okay, let's mount these...
Okay, I think something is wrong. I can't get the screws in very far, and I feel like I should not be putting in more torque to force it.
Screws.
Didn't come with longer screws?
And some fans you'll have to kinda screw into the fan
There are no threads, now that I look at it.
I took a look at the two case models and they pretty gud. Are there any other cases you'd suggest from a gen before or back?
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any other models youd suggest before I pick one?
Mx330-g air for cheap case with not rgb fans, could go p300a and add some p12s but price would get you closer to p360a
Usually fans aren't threaded so the 1st time you screw em in it'll take some effort. Perhaps put screws in the fans out the case 1st to give em threads. π
Phanteks does pretty good cases
Maybe I need a small break let me eat dinner before I finish the gpu and mobo
I'll be back in 35ish minutes
Take your time
Who cares about cable management, good PC is good PC no matter how the cables look
Also want to shift the CPU block.
I have returned with a clean head. I think i'm ready to finish this
I did a small amount of research on the GPU and got mostly ppl suggesting the 900's like you said
There's like a gradient tbh, like 980ti, 1080+, 2070+, 3060+
Speaking of clean, how's this?
The ones I've narrowed down top to bottom are: MSI gtx1050/ti, the GTX 960 4gb, and the Radeon Rx560
not a whole lot of BIG stuff, but its what I found that ppl are selling on amazon ebay and FB marketplace
again, I didn't do allot of mobo research but the two i wrote down were the B660 and the B550M. I could use You or anothers' help on mobo
should I try to go up from 980 range to the 1080 and look for those kinds of gpus?
b550 is an amd motherboard
will it not be compatible with the stuff i got?
you couldve rotated the fans so the cables are more hidden
Cables aren't attached to anything.
B660 is just not as common yet. Tbh I don't like their pricing either. That's why the pro z690-A is so popular. 1080 is a lot more than a 980, but I suggest 970/1060 at minimum because they spank the 960.
I think i understand. i get lost when ppl spank the 960
24pin on gpus is so wild.

Ya. Gonna be an interesting challenge when the right psu comes in.
Yes, don't look on ebay or amazon, tends to be massively inflated, fb marketplace can be decent, r/hws, and for new, 3060 is about your only real choice atm, shuffle main source
Yeah I went on Marketplace for looking at the gpus
i havent used r/hws before
I'll shoot for inbetween 1080+ and a bit below the 3060. I'd rather have an OK gpu from the last line up than barely a choice at the top. I still need help on a motherboard.
ill check marketplace and republish the pcpp list
Again, I'm looking for a specific model of gpu to match a z-mobo?
I support that 1st part.
. Not gpu, the cpu. K model usually, but the lowest 1 is 12600K and it's $250-300ish & it's actually ok to not do that. 12400 is a good $200ish option. Prices always vary also.
any gpu will work on the motherboard
Techpowerup has a 1 day old review of the 12400F (no igpu). π€
Hey all, I'm shopping for a new gaming comp for myself for the first time, and I've decided to avoid the added effort of assembling my own. Anyway, I was thinking of settling on this prebuilt one https://www.newegg.com/clx-tgmsetrth0938bm/p/3D5-000B-001E0 . However it has no reviews and so I figured I should check if anyone here can point out red flags or recommend differently as I'm not as informed on this stuff. (sorry if this is the wrong channel for advice).
that setup is fine
the case has bad airflow tho
but there's no 3090 rigs from abs rn
they're all outta stock, sadly
ok, ty
Yeah, I was trying to figure out better alternatives for the airflow.
depends on what you wanna do with it
if gaming 11900k one would do
oh wait the intel one has 16 gigs of ram
eh, ignore that
Like do I do something unconventional and have only bottom intake?
If so Iβd throw some really nice fans on there
bottom intake would just be stopped by the gpu. idk 011 is weird to me
Are there better cases for EATX?
I'm not a fan of the "side" intake, but a few cases are like that & it works good for liquid cooling. Usually 1 rad would be in that spot maybe. Quite a few cases suport Eatx. That's just a "wider" mobo
my biggest gripe with o11 is how overused it is
it looks nice but i wouldnt use it
And twin closed 240/360 loops?
i think the rad wouldve been better on the side
Which one, and which orientation?
top rad and i guess intake
idk how your setup will be so if that side will be on a wall then it wouldnt be ideal ofc
It will be similar to my previous nest. Let me show you a photo.
More of a custom loop build
i think for O11 ive seen people do side and bottom intake and top exhaust
Top + side would be better. Bottom is generally not sugggested, but I'm not 100% on that. Overall I think it's fine
Ikea signum under back of desktop. π
I am considering adjusting the gpu radiator so it blows in, but it would just go through the gpu turbine, our the case and miss the entire point.
idk ive seen multiple people say side and bottom intake is the best config with top exhaust
Not really a case thatβs great for 2AIO
it would be best to put the top rad on the side since itll just be sucking in the hot air as exhaust
Oh gpu is exhaust currently,? 
really?
So the gpu aio is just thrown in there as exhaust. It is not a permanent solution.
Iβd intake Gpu
yeah
It needs the coolest air
yeup same with top rad
move it to the side
have those as intakes so it gets the fresh air
I like top rad and Gpu rad to side myself
his top rad is exhaust. itll just be sucking in hot air
I can intake gpu, the concern is the turbine fan.
Honestly for the money Iβd custom loop that and it solves your problem
Rad exhaust isnt as hot as you think, but it blowing warm air at the stock gpu fan isn't great. π
So intake the gpu, supplement with a spare 120, get a pair of 80s for the back, power the system and go from there?
I'd do gpu rad side, 2 plain intakes on bottom. Cpu w/ the 360mm should be fine
^^^^^
Back won't take 120, or the gpu radiator would have went there.
the rad is 240
unless those fans on the gpu rad are not 120
Atom, 120mm literally wont fit rear spot
get an air cooler over 120mm aio
im telling you o11 is weird to me
something liek a fuma or a frost spirit 140 or somefing like that
My pc with 4 fans is like the anime gif "look what they need to mimic fraction of our power, lol
Same, 1 is right below gpu
Hey I'm back after looking around FB marketplace a bit.
what case do you use?
am i allowed to send links from FB marketplace?
O.g. RC 690
(lower hdd cage removed and case painted black
Idea: Check this out on @Newegg: Corsair Obsidian Series 1000D CC-9011148-WW Super Tower Case, Premium Tempered Glass and Aluminum Smart Case https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-obsidian-series-1000d-atx-super-tower/p/N82E16811139123?Item=N82E16811139123&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-139-123-_-01212022
I found some gpus and motherboards that i'd like you guys to look at: see if they're ok for the build.
Was a long time ago. Bottom intake is better/ez so it's not attached to panel
let me brind them up:
8 front fans, fans are on rails, it's a log going on here.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/450107253241407/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A4720a30d-5dd0-441f-885a-ad127538ac02 I found a guy selling a gtx1650 super they no longer need that might be a good deal
See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
I'd only be loading one.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/452693026177588/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A0d4b1ac8-6332-4196-b798-091eef47d504 And I found his person's rx 550
See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
4000d can't take a 240 mounted on the back.